tennogen-creation-discussion

[paper adder]

Ok

[steady furnace]

thanks !

[halcyon mist]

I’m Srry

[dusky inlet]

Hello

where can i pull a basic rig/model to work off?

[atomic spade]

#tennogen-resources message

[dusky inlet]

thanks alot

[dusty tapir]

What is tenogen? I have scolled past this alot

[ivory radish]

Tennogen items are fan-made cosmetics that are made for Steam Workshop (platform for publicly contributing content for the game)

[dusty tapir]

Ah cool

[shell talon]

#warframe-general is a better place for casual hellos with discussing TennoGen. 🙂 Deleting a few messages for this.

[wide topaz]

hello, i have been working on something and i was wondering if i need a seperate models/parts for emissives

[rotund nova]

emissives is just a texture, why would you need an extra model?

[wide topaz]

idk, i thought the glow would interfere with the model part it's on

texturewise

[rotund nova]

you mean like z-fighting, when two overlaying textures flicker?

[wide topaz]

yeah

[rotund nova]

no, that won't happen

[wide topaz]

ok, thx

[rotund nova]

if I'm not wrong z-fighting actually only happens when you have two separate models inside each other but not with multiple textures on the same model

at least not with dedicated textures for stuff like normals, emissives or tints because those are baked into the model where they can only ever affect specific aspects of a model but don't interfere with each other unless you're doing something very wrong

(pls TennoGen people correct me if I'm wrong, my understanding for 3D modeling is very basic)

[celest nest]

No, you do not need separate meshes for emissives, UNLESS, you're making FX cards, like fire jets or exhaust vents.

[wide topaz]

dang it, i remeshed all.

and i cant undo

[eager quail]

Tennogen is for player-made content, please use other channels for unrelated questions.

[eager quail]

Please see the above message.

[wide topaz]

what are the top 5 frames that are hard to make tennogen for?

[celest nest]

Nidus, Gauss, Grendel is pretty difficult, probably Equinox, hm

Anything with many moving parts generally.

[steady furnace]

also xaku ? since this frame need a skin for their skeleton and their "skin"

[wide topaz]

i'm guessing qorvex would be difficult as well

actally, i think qorvex might not be as difficult since his form is very blocky where other frames are more organic in shapes

[rotund nova]

whether a frame is blocky or not has nothing to do with how compliacted it is to make skins for it

Quorvex fpr example has a ton of separate objects that move with a pulsate animation and unless they all share the same texture like Gauss' fingers, it's gonna be a pain to texture them all individually

[wide topaz]

as his model in symmetrical, couldn't you just texture one half and mirror the other half?

[rotund nova]

that's what symmetrical means, yes

[proven nacelle]

Any TennoGen artists (published ones preferably) who want to collab on some Entrati/Necramech skins please please hit me up, I have ideas

[solid pulsar]

Hello artists! Dagath & Qorvex files are now available for TennoGen, and are hosted on the Steam Workshop Guide!

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1382340-dagath-qorvex-files-now-available-tennogen/

https://www.warframe.com/steamworkshop/help/index.php?page=content-files-and-examples

We've also created an Entrati Faction Style Guide, adding the Entrati style to the list of accepted Factions you can base your designs off of!

Find the full details under the "Faction Style Guide" https://www.warframe.com/steamworkshop/help/index.php?page=content-creator-art-style-guide
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1382341-entrati-faction-style-now-accepted-tennogen-guide-updated/#comment-12959728

[proven nacelle]

I have been waiting for this day for years

Time to dust off my Titania and Oberon Necramech-inspired designs and start on one for Lavos.

[celest nest]

We need material breakdowns like this for other factions. This is super helpful

[cloud raft]

I will follow any Lavos stuff you do until it's completed, I swear

[normal estuary]

hallooooo! Idk if this is the place to put this so please let me know if it's not!

I took a peak at the Qorvex model and the .fbx doesn't seem to be working, the .obj file is fine, though!

[rotund nova]

guys will see this and go "hell yeah"

that being said

HELL YEAH

[lyric abyss]

im actually excited to see what you guys make with the style.

that being said. i want a soma skin in the style.

[celest nest]

Basically Tabuk Zastava

You'll be happy to know several artists are already working on like... three or four skins in that style, I think.

[thorn ruin]

do 2d artists ever get 3d artists for tennogen to collab with them by any chance? just curious. have a few ideas but I can't model to save my soul.

[proven nacelle]

Here's a still very much WIP of my Entrati Titania, still have to figure out the Razorflies (will probably use Entrati floral flourishes for emissive inner wings with weathered gold for the trim), the front Ribbons, a helmet side-view, the connecting parts for her wings and the inner portion of her wings...

But it's progress! (Feedback welcomed, too)

[stone elk]

This is fantastic. Already loving it

[atomic spade]

Yes, but you must be either lucky as most of them are already on another collabs or work alone and have some interesting ideas so you catch their attention, as they have to invest their time on your concepts and ideas

Source: me, im the 2d artist who can model but cannot sculpt

[thick root]

Yeah, but most of us do our own designs. It's pretty competetive aswell. I've seen people here expecting to collab with 3d artists, but their concepts just aren't good enough. Keep in mind that you need to reach the industry standard if you want 3d artists collabing with you, since that's what's required to get something accepted

[radiant lodge]

You might be able to find someone that wants to try their hand at sculpting to partner with. But don't expect the first one(s) to be up to standard right away.

[celest nest]

The best way of doing is to probably post a few arts, and then link them to a 3D modeller with an interesting to you style.

[wide topaz]

yay, qorvex!

i have a couple ideas for alt helms

[iron oyster]

Probably gonna do another gauss themed skin or Octavia skin

Honest question who would like to see an Alastor designed Octavia skin?

[dusky inlet]

how would one make the obol details??

[terse remnant]

I'd love to see that honestly

[iron oyster]

Gotta try and figure it out tho

[terse remnant]

give it that classic bob and adjusted ears on the helmet with music sound waves dancing on the face for the smile

at least that's what comes to mind

[iron oyster]

Crucible heat sword skin

[eager quail]

Please make sure of the purpose of the channel you are posting in. This does not belong here.

[dapper epoch]

Heeey! Quick Question! Are there 3D Modeling Softwares besides Blender? Blender is always crashing and causing sometimes a bluescreen on my Pc and i want to try to model my first Tennogen Concept (in which i asked on Twitter for help as i'm a complete noob of understanding anything about 3D Models so, i just try it by myself). Kinda want to know what you guys use :>

[radiant lodge]

There are several options. Blender is the only free one I know of.

[frosty fiber]

I use 3Ds max since that’s what I was taught to use in college, but as RisingAbyss said, it’s not free.

[rotund nova]

Hi, I'm making a design for an Ostron Mag skin, but I'm new to this so I wanted some thoughts!! I also wanted to see if gold metal is allowed here (specifically in the blue parts) since this is Ostron

[radiant lodge]

Osteron do use metals as accessory bits, but I'm not sure gold specifically is a good idea. Might be better to use silver or grey.

[rotund nova]

Update

[brisk nexus]

Sadly people can't do for Wisp a shroud in the form of elastic pieces from a girl from KDA (Evelyn)

[rotund nova]

So motivated to practice TennoGen designing lole

Does anyone have a ref for (normal) Volt? I wanna draw a Corpus look for him

[rotund nova]

So I decided to just use a basic image from the wiki! Too busy to draw the other side, and I haven't decided the color channels yet

[eager quail]

This channel for player-made skins, this is not the place for random suggestions.

[subtle crow]

Didn’t know lmao

[rotund nova]

Colors!!!
Gray - metal
Cream - smooth
Teal - rubber
Copper - metal
Violet - emissive and effects

Please gimme any thoughts or questions or whatever xd

[rotund nova]

When I mentioned Corpus, I didn't mean I wanted a bot...

[dapper epoch]

I see, i see, thanks you two!

Well, my idea was this but, guess i need to wait til i can upgrade my CPU and hope that Blender works 😅

And to the concept, i'm horrible when it comes to perspectives but, yeah

[rotund nova]

Oooo, something for Octavia

Here's my progress

[rotund nova]

what are you going for with the helmet?

it doesn't really seem that Corpus to me (yet)

[rotund nova]

The oval is emissive stuff, like the one on Caliban's default helm
The shape above it is supposed to have a lightning motif lole
And on the backside there's an aerodynamic tail and more cords and stuff

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1199138917627215953/1203488515615232060/image0.jpg?ex=65d14705&is=65bed205&hm=0ff203422dfaad11f9a213c51299d58868f9478a009dc1a05564ce2d2a641c06&

no I mean thematically, what are you orientating it on? Crewman helmets, proxy heads or neither but another secret third thing?

since your body looks to be based on crewman suits, the helmet doesn't seem like something the Corpus would give their human units

even looking at the much more complex designs from newer tilesets

That's a good point

Most Corpus helmets seem completely metallic though so I wanna try avoiding that if I can

I mean you could try to look at how the Corpra helmets do it. A lot of the materials they have is metallic but not in the same type. Sometimes it's shiny/glossy, sometimes more matte. You could maybe try brushed metal to contrast the others. Even hard plastic can work if you know where to put it

What should I change for the helmet? Make the general shape more boxy?

that could certainly work

but it's not the only option available

@atomic spade currently has two Corpus projects going, one for Harrow and one for Gauss and they look completely different than what you'd see from any Crewman enemies ingame but both still in theme and very much Corpus looking

I asked him actually

He said I could use his designs as examples/references

oh that's cool

even better that I can use this as an example

see how only the yellow region is shiny metal while the blue and red materials are completely different?

yes, the helm is very shiny but if you get the proportions right you could make the areas that aren't shiny on your helmet more prominent and still keep the Corpus look

at the end of the day what makes something look Corpus comes down more to the shape language of your helmet rather than just the materials

(obviously Grineer typical materials wouldn't really work but you get the point)

if you want you could come over to the TennoGen server and discuss your projects with the other TennoGen creators. They're more active there than they are here. Just tell me and I'll shoot you a link in DMs

I'd like to join

And here's how it looks now xd

[deep zenith]

Is there any news on Kullervo augments?

[rotund nova]

Wrong channel Silly Sue

[deep zenith]

Thanks

[rotund nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1088511664988635157/1204247509141037167/IMG_5234.png?ex=65d409e4&is=65c194e4&hm=79e6ffcad1aad3e37d39dca415ac1ba46327c14947128e42c883eff0b003a54d&

[dreamy cape]

volt skin concept?

[rotund nova]

Yessirrr

[dreamy cape]

Icic, looks nice so far ^^.

[rotund nova]

Thankiesss
Do you have any advice or more thoughts?

I'm trying to finish the design before I get to coloring and different angles

[dreamy cape]

I believe I can make something up. But it's late rn. I'll ping you tmr.

just asking what's it's based off?.

[rotund nova]

It's supposed to be Corpus, specifically a humanoid/Crewman

Wdym by "make something up" lole

[dreamy cape]

oo neat.

[dreamy cape]

noting negative, like I could draw some ideas? Based off your design. w your permission ofc.

[rotund nova]

Sure, if you like

I also need a modeler if you or anyone you know can help with that

[dreamy cape]

I’ll ping you, once it’s done.

[dreamy cape]

Not really, sorry.

[dreamy cape]

Sorry, if it looks rough.

[rotund nova]

Oooo

[sour latch]

Someone should make more gauss skins and helms I absolutely love this one https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2877204638

[dusky inlet]

no clue how to make it work for redline

[worthy edge]

Would anyone mind sending me a link to the Tennogen discord server? I can't seem to find it elsewhere.

[rotund nova]

On it (it's not listed anywhere, you kinda need to be lucky that someone sees your message to invite you)

[steel otter]

what does 10p mean?

[rotund nova]

Wrong channel, but P stands for Platinum in this game

[azure pollen]

okay, so weird question

is there anything against making a genderbend tennogen skin?

ive seen some tennogen skins that just completely change the overall shape and flow of the mesh

if i made a genderbend citrine skin would there be any issues publshing it and getting it ingame?

i guess what im asking is if theres any limitations to the rig so long as its weighted properly

a another question is HOW is the rig created, do you just hand the mesh off to DE with its textures and they rig it? or does the skin creator do that

[rotund nova]

I don't think you can change the mesh of the body

[azure pollen]

i couldve sworn ive seen some tennogen with additions

i could wrong

i need to build my portfolio more and apply to DE xD, they live downtown from me

[rotund nova]

You can change the helmet's mesh, as well as the textures for both

[azure pollen]

then ill make a genderbend skin line XD

[azure pollen]

I see isee

VERY sadge

also @rotund nova your ostron design looks SOOOO cool

would absolutely kill to see a mesa with a bandana mask with the red cloth

her little grendate things could be the glowing crystals

[sturdy python]

Whats tennogen?

[lyric abyss]

player created cosmetics

[sturdy python]

Ohh

[sour latch]

They have it in the description

[split ice]

You cannot change the body model, so there is no rig
But yes, when rigging is involved (cloth on helmets/syandanas for example) they handle all of that

[candid turtle]

I'm totally willing to attempt this if you can give me some more concepts of the body! I'm a hard surface modeller by trade but have been dabbling in sculpture work for a bit.

[dreamy cape]

sure, if I have time.

[echo gorge]

i just wanna say you guys and gals in tennogen are awesome please keep up the good work

[rotund nova]

Whoa

[dreamy cape]

used another concept as a base. cause I'm bad at anatomy.

[rotund nova]

Wonder what the theme is here. Also don't think gold metals are allowed

[atomic spade]

You cannot modify the body mesh.

You can only make a helmet form scratch and bake a normal map and textures to the body

[candid turtle]

Yep the skirt part probably won't work but I think I can do parts of the rest with maps going to get the reference files and check it out before I make assumptions. I'm not entirely familiar with volt.

[rotund nova]

Yeah, make sure to read the official TennoGen guide

[dreamy cape]

Oh dam

[rotund nova]

That's why I traced the meshes for my designs lole

[dreamy cape]

welp.

[rotund nova]

I have some mesh refs of Volt you can draw on, should I send em to you?

Anyways, here's my Corpus Volt progress

[candid turtle]

those should help as well. The skirt is there, so I'm going to see what I can make.

[rotund nova]

Have fun!!!

[dreamy cape]

good luck

[dreamy cape]

Yes please.

[candid turtle]

Thoughts. Not 100% on the helmet

Different Lights

[dreamy cape]

interesting

[rotund nova]

👀

[rotund nova]

The roundness of it makes it look Grineer, is that what you're going for?

[candid turtle]

No lol, aim was for corpus. Sad part is I've spent like 5 hours on the body and blender did some weird stuff with the hiding of the mesh and its destroyed the lower parts

Looks ok at a distance, but up close it's pretty much messed it up

So I'm going to have to start over

Helmet was based on this guy honestly,

Mixed in your basic shapes with this for detail, but it does end up looking more grineer.

[rotund nova]

Hmm, should I add some color and material channels? Maybe Avi could help too

[dreamy cape]

no clue how to, lmao.

well perhaps add more details for lights?.

[atomic spade]

The thing about the design you are doing is that yes corpus is mostly geometric, but its all angled and with sharpish edges, the helmet looks grineer because its a round plate and it has no angles whatsoever

Grineer design wise is mostly organic shapes, mostly bumps and curves, where corpus is mostly hard surfaced

[rotund nova]

Yes!!!

[atomic spade]

In most Corpus designs, you will rarely found helmets with round surfaces, most of these surfaces are flat or mostly flat

Where Grineer is the antithesis of that, most of the designs have round surfaces, and if a design doesnt follow this, it compensates with "crudeness"

[rotund nova]

Mhm. I think I should keep doing the colors, should make work easier for the modeler hehe

How's this so far?

[atomic spade]

This is a pretty quick example of what i meant

[rotund nova]

HOW DO YOU DESIGN LIKE THAT

[atomic spade]

Idk

[candid turtle]

Went back to my roots, modeling hard surface before I sculpt 😄

[rotund nova]

bro knows his stuff

also Noxxr is insanely fast when it comes to concept sketches

[rotund nova]

I can try coloring on this. Also, the oval at the lower part of my helmet design is supposed to be an orb thingy with electricity running on/in it, would that be a good addition to the new design?

[dreamy cape]

Nicely done

[rotund nova]

Messy edit and some coloring of Noxxr's design lole

The horizontal bar on the back doesn't feel that speedy to me, so I changed it to antennae

[rotund nova]

Adding to that, maybe make the front pointier for aerodynamics

[stone elk]

Or perchance bevel it so it’s less flat but still retains that circular shape? - to stick with Kuro’s aerodynamic point

[dusky inlet]

is making the visor blue neon part of corpus helmets against the rules?

also is there a discord server purely for tennogen?

[rotund nova]

why would it be?

[rotund nova]

yes there is but it's unofficial and you need an invite link

[dusky inlet]

remember something about eyes facial features and was wondering if it falls under it

not really a facial feature but might be too close to the mobs

[rotund nova]

a visor isn't facial features

facial features refers to realistic human faces

you can't do eyes, mouths, noses and ears and whatnot unless it's heavily stylized

[dusky inlet]

i see thanks

[iron oyster]

Who's that for?

[rotund nova]

Volt

[iron oyster]

Nice

I was thinking about doing a Vox and Alastor thing, what frames should I do em on?

[rotund nova]

I guess Nekros? Or any other character with similar themes xd

[iron oyster]

Nekros would be good for Alastor

Now I just need one for vox

Maybe volt?

[rotund nova]

Or Gauss, or Gyre, both are similar to Volt

[iron oyster]

I need one that is like technology

[rotund nova]

Vauban or Protea

[iron oyster]

Vauban would work

Could probably do an Exorcist design for Titania

[rotund nova]

Oooo

[iron oyster]

Then throw in a husk design for Voruna since she's the only one who fits Husk's design

Do an Alastor Microphone Polearm skin

[ivory imp]

Basing a Tennogen design off something from a show wouldn’t be a good idea. You can incorporate elements but the farther away it is, the better

[rotund nova]

Yeah, make sure to read the official guides

[grim zenith]

is tennogen/user-created content strictly restricted to cosmetic material? i'm currently writing a new lore-accurate quest and would like to send it to DE. curious if that's something they encourage

[rotund nova]

TennoGen refers to cosmetic material

Fan works such as quests are different, and I dunno how, where, or if you can send it to the people at DE

[grim zenith]

awesome, thanks for your help

[rotund nova]

don't make skins based on other IPs

that's not what TennoGen is for

[rotund nova]

you can obviously still take inspiration from various sources but everything you make as a TennoGen creator has to be 100% your original idea

[dusty tapir]

Can you do tennogen for arch stuff and nechro mechs

Or is that not available

Nvm they should though

[rotund nova]

#warframe-general

[pale kiln]

[radiant lodge]

Please use #warframe-general or #1197322290166251680 for questions not related to tennogen. Thank you.

Removed unrelated discussion.

[rotund nova]

Hello! is anyone is familiar with Tennogen using Blender? I could use some advice 😅

[hexed blade]

can someone help me

[rotund nova]

just ask your question. If we don't know what you need no one will be able to help you.

[gleaming vine]

that's equal to just saying 'hi' in a dm.

[rotund nova]

I'd say it's closer to saying hi in a random group chat

[obtuse hull]

Be specific with your request, don't ask to ask please.

[rotund nova]

Mfw I asked yesterday but got nothing

[ivory radish]

I could easily be wrong, but I don't think there's many active TG artists here who use blender specifically for tennogen

[rotund nova]

that still wasn't a very specific question.

fair enough. Was just hoping someone would reply then i'd elaborate.

[rotund nova]

even if, many people don't want to engage unless they know exactly what the issue is. It's not optimal but that's what it is. I stopped asking if someone can help me and instead outright stated my issue because the success rate of getting the exact help I needed was so much higher.

[rotund nova]

If you want I could send you an invite link to the TennoGen server. If anyone can help you with Blender TennoGen, they're probably there.

[rotund nova]

Please do!

[ivory radish]

I can agree

[rotund nova]

Super rough & quick sketches of octavia alt helms

critique would be great

[rotund nova]

I like the shape of the first one

[eager quail]

First one is
I think the second looks closer to a Hildryn helmet, she has that loop going down around the back.

[prisma shale]

First one is absolutely perfect. The second one is great but it looks more like a Yareli, Ivara or previously mentioned hidryn. Still looks great but for Octavia the first one is fantastic

[eager quail]

You make a ticket with #support-and-bugs

[clear kayak]

i would like to create a new Oberon Style called "Crimson Fairy" [a type of Halloween Design] but for the moment all i can do is modelling without a ref x)

if anyone have any interest in helping with 2D designs im all open

[rotund nova]

Hmm, I could try

Could you send me a ref of Oberon?

[rotund nova]

Decided to stick with something like the one on the left and am experimenting with shapes.

also tysm for the feedback @eager quail and @prisma shale !!

[ivory radish]

ooo, love me some octavia love
what's your particular direction for this concept, is it like a mohawk style?

[rotund nova]

Not sure yet! I think she deserves some more of those sick emissive mandachord rings. So I thought I'd do her justice! I'm also hoping to make a helmet that looks good on both her original and her prime.

[ivory radish]

I see I see, because your idea of a vertical ring does give me a vision of a punk-styled concept

[rotund nova]

Yep! Currently deciding on wether or not to stick with the double visor idea.

[clear kayak]

a bit scared to send that since im kinda new to Tenno stuff but thanks for an artist to help me a little bit (i did the entire modelling of the head/Mask) also it's stil a wip ^^'

[atomic spade]

Thats gonna be a no since DE strictly enforces no skulls

Even for entrati themed skins

But the idea is cool tho

[clear kayak]

aah dangit

guess i can try a different approach then

[clear kayak]

and does something like that is accepted ?

(ye im trying a different way but i want to keep the horns)

[atomic spade]

Would try to make the horns more like the Tenno style

[clear kayak]

so more mechanic ?

like sort of robots even tho like there a few Oberon heads that doesn't really have like a Tenno style in the Tennogen

[atomic spade]

Yep, the shape can be maintained tho, its the details where you have to do it tenno style

[clear kayak]

the details ?

[atomic spade]

Like this one Tennogen Submission

[clear kayak]

that looks a lot like a skull

but i haven't textured it yet

[atomic spade]

But it isnt directly a skull

Its very heavily stylized

[clear kayak]

i mean i didn't do like exactly deer horns

sure i will need to change a lot of stuff

[atomic spade]

If you want to have some sort of skull in your submission, it should be very, very stylized to the point its barely recognizable as a skull

[clear kayak]

and yet this is like completely recognizable that it's a skull

Stylized or not x)

[atomic spade]

Yes, but mind you this submission hasnt been approved

Its not ingame

[clear kayak]

ah ye

idk how to make it more "Tenno" way but i will give it a try

[atomic spade]

What i mean with the skull thing, is that if you want a skull in your submission, it has to feel like a skull, but barely

And even like that you might get rejected

[clear kayak]

alright but now all i did is mainly remove 90% of the skull to keep the horns

[atomic spade]

Rules can be broken to some extent, but its very, very difficult

Because the final verdict is from DE, they are the ones who decide if its good or not

[atomic spade]

The Tenno style is somewhat mechanical but organic at the same time

[clear kayak]

ye ik

[clear kayak]

ah

i mean like i said i haven't even made the textures

[atomic spade]

Its very elegant, unlike Grineer which its mechanical and organic in its nature, but its crude and brutal

[atomic spade]

Id recommend you to make those details in the sculpt

Not directly on the texturing

[clear kayak]

alright

[atomic spade]

Where are you sculpting? On Blender??

[clear kayak]

ye

[atomic spade]

The workflow should be:
-blocking
-sculpting (down to the finer details)
-retopology
-high poly baking into low poly (can be done on Blender, but many Tennogen artists do it on Marmoset Studio if im not mistaken)
-export to texturing program (ex. substance painter)
-finish the materials and do the finer adjustments on Blender
-upload to Steam Workshop and wait for feedback

[clear kayak]

i always feared retopology

[atomic spade]

Its not that difficult, just tedious

[clear kayak]

i wont lie i am pretty skilled in terms of modelling, i have a lot of patience for it but Retopology i tried once and i did not had the patience for it

[atomic spade]

This is how the workflow should look like

Images from Malaya Yu on Twitter

[atomic spade]

Ive heard that Topogun is good for retopology

[clear kayak]

Topogun ?

[clear kayak]

oh so it's a different app

[atomic spade]

As far as i know, Tennogen artists (who have approved submissions) use:

-ZBrush
-Blender/Maya
-Marmoset Studio
-Substance Painter 3D
-Topogun

[clear kayak]

alright i will keep that in mind for now ima just stop cause i worked on the head for hours

thx for the help tho ^^

[rotund nova]

Tenno isn't mechanical/robotic. It just means a very specific shape language.

[clear kayak]

yeah no worry i mainly understood what Tenno is sort of

it's mainly a mix of Flesh stuff and robotics etc so

[rotund nova]

no, not flesh stuff

that's not what Noxxr meant with organic

[clear kayak]

What i kinda mean by Flesh is mainly like Some Warframe have Clothings/Litteral Spine Bones (even tho to me it's mechanic stuff except the clothing)

i didn't said the right word my bad x)

[celest nest]

Biomechanics

or techno-organic

[rotund nova]

↑↑↑

[robust river]

Gotta love the corpus esque look

[radiant lodge]

Removed non-Tennogen related discussion.

[rotund nova]

for future reference, would it still be unrelated if the question was specifically about finding out if something is a TennoGen skin?

or does every fashion frame question count as unrelated by default?

[radiant lodge]

If you aren't sure if something is tennogen, #fashion-frame is the appropriate channel to ask - or check the wiki. The wiki has a breakdown of each category and images of the skins.
https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/TennoGen

[rotund nova]

I wasn't the one who asked about the Rhino Dex skin but I'll refer them to the #fashion-frame channel if someone else asks about that here.

[pallid bronze]

thank you Tenogen for making better items/skins than the game

[rotund nova]

I mean for some things TennoGen is the only cosmetic option that exists so there isn't really much competition to begin with.

[ivory radish]

kind of a weird dunk on devs ngl

[lyric abyss]

its true though. it seems they forgot some weapon classes exist

[rotund nova]

I do actually have an Assault Saw concept in mind, but I could just try designing it as a skin lole

[lyric abyss]

not allowed for tennogen

[rotund nova]

Figured

[eager quail]

Removing messages unrelated to Tennogen. Please check channel descriptions and pins.

[orchid sentinel]

what software do yall use to make these models i wanna try my hand at making tennogen and dont know what software to use

[celest nest]

For sculpting and high poly, Zbrush, I think Zbrush Core is free so you can try it for free. For retopology and optimization and unwrapping Blender is most often used. If you're into making more hard mech looking stuff, I highly recommend Plasticity. Texturing is most commonly done in Substance Painter, and you can render in Painter, or Marmoset, or Blender, or I dunno, Maya or Cinema 4D, but they are expensive.

[orchid sentinel]

that is a lot of info i will need to do some research into and i really appreciate it thank you

[rotund nova]

@rich ginkgo why don't these guys read the channel names

[lyric abyss]

what does this have to do with tennogen?

[burnt dragon]

I bought the Equinox Insomnia Skin and a Valkyr Graxx skin years ago, I switched to console like 2-3 weeks ago, and It's gone?
Is it a thing where Nintendo is just restricting certain things?

[lyric abyss]

yep.

[rotund nova]

Yeah I don't think TennoGen is saved across platforms

[burnt dragon]

I think it is, since I do still have the Repala Syandana, Ash Bai Hu skin, Excaliburs Apex and Caduto skin I got on PC years ago.
I just don't get why the Equinox and Valkyr skin was taken away though.

[surreal raven]

Zbrush core mini is free. Hasn’t been updated in years. Same with zbrush core

[surreal raven]

I’d only recommend mini for getting comfortable In zbrush before you make any commitments to it.

[lyric abyss]

who are you talking to?

[rotund nova]

@eager quail this is also in #tennogen-showcase-your-content

[radiant lodge]

When a tennogen item is accepted into the program, it is up to the artist if it can be used for consoles. When these were released, they were released as PC only. They are not available on consoles.

[lyric abyss]

pretty sure the insomnia skin is on ps

[radiant lodge]

There is an insomnia skin, just not the Equinox one.

[lyric abyss]

nope. its on ps

i own it

same for the valkyr graxx skin

[static wind]

so tennogen items can only be considered for addition to the game if the item matches the already pre-existing art styles in the game correct?

does this mean that with the addition of new enemy factions and the upcoming 1999 update does this mean that we can make stuff matching murmur, entrati labs, and 1999 skins and stuff?

[rotund nova]

only if DE allows it

DE obviously has full creative freedom and they gave us cosmetics before that would absolutely not get accepted if it was TennoGen

I mean Entrati style literally just got accepted for TennoGen so that's out of the way

I'd say Murmur is too vague as a faction style because half the enemies are Entrati anyway and the other half is rocks with arms and we haven't seen enough of 1999 yet so I have no idea how plausible it is to have that as a TennoGen faction style

[static wind]

neat

[cloud raft]

I feel like 1999 would bring more weapon skins than anything if we did get any tennogen availability for it

[radiant lodge]

Please keep discussion related to Tennogen. Use #1197322290166251680 to ask questions.

[limber wraith]

Murmur is really just Wally style so I’d say it could be pretty cool to see a murmur skin. But then again I am guess this would really change the appearance of a frame by a lot so maybe it wouldn’t be accepted.

[radiant lodge]

We might be allowed to in the future. They do expand the styles allowed every now and then.

[golden hinge]

Please use this concept for hammer skin 😂

[rotund nova]

I could draw a concept for something like that

[golden hinge]

Excali-HAMMER

[eager quail]

You're looking for #squad-recruitment Please check channel descriptions and pins.

[celest nest]

If de finally coded dark split sword into new category that worked as presumed, someone would make that hammer

[viscid jay]

Hey so, helmets are one thing, but if I wanted to figure out a way to do some Duviri themed skins for the bodies of warframes, how would everyone recommend going about that since I wouldn't be able to just carve out any bits like Kullervo's elbows and knees?

[rotund nova]

Duviri skins might not be possible because it's not part of the currently accepted faction styles and Duviri, I think, is very much considered its own faction

[viscid jay]

Dang...

[quiet pollen]

Has anyone considered doing low-poly warframe skins? I’d love to have a retro looking sevagoth, even if the textures were up to modern standards

[rotund nova]

TennoGen can't change the body mesh of any Warframe so that's not possible

[ivory radish]

and generally that would collide with the art direction of warframe, this ain't fortnite

[rotund nova]

correct

like that time someone suggested skins that were inspired by inverted neon wheel thingies from Rocket League or something

If we stylize it enough it might be doable

[celest nest]

Inverted neon wheel thingies?

[rotund nova]

I don't remember what exactly but it was something from Rocket League that would absolutely not work in Warframe

this

[celest nest]

These? That's just inverted colors on cars?

[lyric abyss]

im starting to think people think tennogen are just mods

[celest nest]

Paid mods, even. I cannot believe Todd Bothosder sold us Skyrim again.

[quiet pollen]

I’d argue that’s different, that can be achieved with preexisting colors, simplifying a model to something bordering on low-poly is smth completely different

[rotund nova]

Yeah as I said. This neon thing might be doable, but we'd need to really stylize it

[quiet pollen]

Why not something that looks like it came out of an 80s show

[rotund nova]

Warframe is set in a sci-fi world

And Warframe 1999 isn't an allowed aesthetic

[quiet pollen]

Doesn’t mean it couldn’t be Tenno tech and more warframe degradation

[rotund nova]

Maybe a retro sci-fi look would work

[quiet pollen]

Like they get more blocky and bulky because the technology is more and more lost

[rotund nova]

We can't change the body's mesh. Only the helmet can be changed

[quiet pollen]

How so, wukong’s piercing eye skin is different, couldn’t you theoretically just block over the mesh?

[rotund nova]

Piercing Eye isn't different

[celest nest]

That's just clever retexture

[rotund nova]

it uses the same body mesh as default Wukong

[quiet pollen]

Ah, so I’m stupid got it lmao

[celest nest]

You can technically add very small new meshes to the neck region, but it must not change silhouette and it must be part of helmet material.

You'd be surprised how much you can fake with just pure textures and nothing else. It's all a grand illusion.

[rotund nova]

best example is the Oberon Tauros helmet

[quiet pollen]

Is there a lore reason for Graxx Chroma seeming different than the default mesh? am I stupid?

[celest nest]

Just textures

[rotund nova]

Yes, now go back to the Aslume

[celest nest]

You're not stupid, it's just good designers can make retextures look like they affect more than they do

[quiet pollen]

Alright my questions are answered haha

I wish it was only the rigging skeleton that had to remain unchanged

[rotund nova]

that'd be cool on paper but it would also mean a ton more work for everyone involved

DE also has a lot of work with implementing the skins into the game

[proven nacelle]

Titania skin WIP: have to revisit the Ribbons, find better emissive placements, and helmet (based on an idea by BlazingCobalt, who is helping me out with this).

Feedback and concrit are welcomed, btw!

[rotund nova]

das conc crit

[proven nacelle]

Constructive critique…?

[viscid jay]

Funny way of saying concrete, I believe. Means it looks solid/good.

[mystic flint]

Some progress on the infested Lavos, any advice is welcome :)

[atomic spade]

Holy poopoo edwino, you learned zbrush so damn fast!

Do you have any tutorials that i can follow?

[mystic flint]

thanks 😭 , I've watched the first 10 or so by michael pavlovich the rest is pretty much trial and error

[atomic spade]

Ill check it out

Also, keep doing what you doing.

||Vulbjorn is fearing you and that will make him work lol||

[mystic flint]

nah he has nothing to fear lol, I'm noob

[obtuse hull]

Deleted non-tennogen talk.

[wide plume]

Reading through the backlog here and saw this.

I cri.
I actually really love Dark Split-Sword as a concept and want it to be good.

Being able to swap it in mission would be so cool

[rotund nova]

Yeah, I also want the assault saw weapons to get some love since I have a weapon concept in mind

[proven nacelle]

Updated version, with some adjustments to the wings from Cobalt. Thoughts/suggestions?

[celest nest]

Better. Could use some obols on hanging front belt pieces

[proven nacelle]

Hmmm... I'll give that a shot and see how that looks. Thank you! <3

[granite crown]

Anyone know if hitsu still have any ongoing project.

[rotund nova]

nope

he retired from TennoGen for career reasons

if I remember this correctly and am not confusing Hitsu with a different TennoGen creator

but I'm still sure he retired for one reason or another

[proven nacelle]

That might have been Faven, iirc

[proven nacelle]

Dude, you’re a genius. This made all the difference!

[gleaming socket]

A fellow zbrush enjoyer, great to see

I really want to get into tennogen, where do I get started?

[mystic flint]

pretty much everyone uses it haha

at least the majority of tennogen artist I know

[celest nest]

I don't think anyone who has works in game doesn't use Zbrush.

[boreal fable]

Will this be in game?

[proven nacelle]

Hard to say. Right now, I’m designing the 2D look, so nailing it down before passing the baton to Cobalt is where it’s at.

Whether or not the end product gets accepted… that’s an entirely different story.

[boreal fable]

Have you had a skin make it into the game

[stone elk]

Have you also considered putting some obols on the back of the skirt as well?
(This is a fantastic concept btw)

[stone elk]

Like this ^ (obviously poorly edited on my phone)

[proven nacelle]

Hmmm… that might be worth trying out!

[atomic spade]

Id say you should be cautious with the amount of obols on the skin, imo there is currently almost too many obols on it

[manic mauve]

hi TennoGen friends! Dante's files are also now available with this update -- can't wait to see what kind of Dorito magic you can all whip up: https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1388647-dante-files-now-available/

[rotund nova]

Some of the actual Entrati stuff like Necramechs are decked out with obols though

[ivory radish]

contextual placement matters too, probably

[atomic spade]

Yeah, but in the necramechs its only in their main body

[timber hornet]

What frame is this concept for

[rotund nova]

Ember

but with Prime details on

[timber hornet]

O

[celest nest]

Words of wisdom - if you bake ID maps by vertex colors, SEPARATE YOUR MATERIALS PHYSICALLY INTO SEPARATE SUB-MODELS, or be met with this and be prepared for a few relaxing hours, rummaging through models, fixing bake errors and edge inconsistencies.

Or use polygroups for tint masking

And don't forget to occasionally eat fresh fruit.

[rotund nova]

Anyone know a good tutorial to start making a 3D model of skins for the game ? I have a concept I'd like to do but I lack technical knowledge

[viscid jay]

Oh that looks SICK, is that another tech skin

[atomic spade]

Ember technopyre from MasterNoob

[viscid jay]

Yessssss

[alpine quail]

I need mad help

I already posted in the Reddit but I thought I should give another shot here

So I need help getting back into the game and I was wondering if I could get a teacher for me, cause I can’t find any videos on how to get back into the game from where I am

[rotund nova]

Wrong channel, Silly Sue

username checks out

[lyric abyss]

what does this have to do with tennogen?

[alpine quail]

My bad wrong chat

[dusty tapir]

Hes lost

[tawny osprey]

so uh ive had this idea for a while

[rotund nova]

Interesting, but you might have to stylize it more

[tawny osprey]

of course. still in blockout

[rotund nova]

Smoke dat XATA straight!

[tawny osprey]

@rotund nova i thought it would be a dope smoke emissive

[lapis thunder]

combine with Excal Zato animation. love it

Smoke that nitaaaaaaaain 🚬 🚬 🚬

[celest nest]

Bet he's a real hoot at Arby's at 3 AM

[hollow gazelle]

Just Simply askin,
Can anyone make a Witch hat looking helmet for Protea?
The one dats simular to Wisp Coven helmet

[rotund nova]

Maybe I could design one

[rotund nova]

How dis xd

[tepid swallow]

Hello, im attempting to start making Tennogen, other than looking at the guides and reference material, are there any tips when making skins for the Tenno faction when making weapons?

[rotund nova]

stay organic in yourbshape language but don't make things too rotund. Keep wear and tear to a necessary minimum. Try to combine materials that you might not usually find on irl weapons (depending on what weapon it's for).

[tepid swallow]

so i notice that a lot of Tenno weapons look like they are a single piece like if it came out of a mold, that counts? (also thats a good advice, didnt though on material)

[rotund nova]

It counts, but the mold thing is more of a Grineer aesthetic

no I think they mean how compared to Tenno weapons, Grineer weapons look forged, built with actual tool, Corpus weapons look manufactured, as if robot arms put together multiple pre made weapon parts on a conveyor belt while Tenno weapons have that feel of archaic weapon smithing but the shapes go into each other in a way that makes them look like they either have been molded in one piece or printed (which the foundry pretty much actually does)

Considering how industrial and numerous the Grineer are, some of their weapons (such as Hind) look like they came from molds, with the same materials and spray paint look

That's my observation though

[tepid swallow]

yes, but after looking at some stuff, and my original sketch, i came to the conclution that if looks like its made out of multiple parts, it might not be Tenno

[rotund nova]

Also, blueprints and the Foundry might be newer compared to the actual weapons

[tepid swallow]

(not counting accessories or decorations)

[rotund nova]

mold ≠ metal casting. I know what you mean but you can use molds to cast many things. Grineer use molds most definitely but they still have to screw or weld together parts, wrap them with cloth or tape. Look at how the Nikana has no distinct end of the blade but smoothly goes over into the tsuba which in return smoothly goes over into the handle. You can't do that with conventional crafting techniques.

[hollow gazelle]

OMG Its so Cool!!!
A Liiittle bigger 'hat thing'(?) Would be better, tho
And I reeeeally love dat flower base design! I'm a big fan of it

[rotund nova]

Thanks! The flower's supposed to be an actual protea flower, maybe made out of metal though to make it more sci-fi

[rotund nova]

1 - visor (connected to hat)
2 - protea flower
3 - dangly bit, seen on many Protea helms
4 - protea petals

[hollow gazelle]

Now THAT is what i was looking for

[proud kayak]

Does anyone know if they have a boxy rifle skin? Like something for torid? Or if anyone is working on one??

[rotund nova]

TennoGen for rifles can't change the model, only texture

and 95% of guns aren't even available for TennoGen

more like 99.9 actually

you can literally only make skins for 5 non-melee weapons

Amprex, Arca Plasmor, Gorgon, Opticor and Sybaris to be exact

[west crow]

are these too tarnished? the color is temporary, im assuming theres probably an official yellow/gold i should use for the obols

[proud kayak]

😭 de please universal rifle skin

[rotund nova]

maybe tune down the scratches a bit

[eternal galleon]

also the "dash" holes in center are too big, they usually appear as thin line with about 2/10 of total obol length

[atomic spade]

https://x.com/yu_malaya/status/1778450801582882840?s=61&t=hjWiMftGkq_XuRIIiudZfQ

Malaya doing gods work

Malaya (@yu_malaya) on X

Twitter · Apr 11, 2024, 3:51 PM

https://fxtwitter.com/yu_malaya/status/1778442055695663483?s=61&t=hjWiMftGkq_XuRIIiudZfQ

[rotund nova]

oh what, the visor has moving text?

I was hoping it just had the regular Corpus crewman helmet visor light

[atomic spade]

Hmm, you know, same

Lemme ask Malaya

[rotund nova]

maybe it's just placeholder

just strikes me as an odd choice because from the concept art I found it very clear that the scrolling text was only on the mouth cables while the visor is the same as Harrow Profitas. Did you two ever talk about what is what on the helmet or did Malaya just get to work since this the second project you two are collaborating on?

oh hey, this isn't the TennoGen server

[obtuse hull]

But it is tennogen discussion.

[rotund nova]

yeah yeah, but Noxxr and I talk on the TennoGen server quite often and I just did not notice we weren't on there

I'm really glad we stayed on topic tho

[tawny osprey]

@rotund nova wait theres a specific tennogen server?

hes coming along

[rotund nova]

yeah, though it is very unofficial but I could send you an invite link in dms

[tawny osprey]

please and thank you

[rotund nova]

OMG this is so cool!

[atomic spade]

https://fxtwitter.com/Lubox_Art/status/1778848170962776233?t=RcMQb4b-UPdaimrlf5uRwA&s=19

[rugged pecan]

hi guys:)
please excuse my poor english QAQ...

this part can move like a animate

this animate part is made by texture program like Substance 3D painter?
or it is made by 3D program like Blender?

if i want to learning this technique
what is the key words than i can srach it on youtube or google?
supre super thanks >W<

[atomic spade]

Textures are made in Substance Painter, textures by itself are static, they do not move.

We make the textures move in Blender by animating them by hand (with keyframes), mostly its only for showcasing reasons, that way the developers have a rough idea on how to animate the textures themselves on the game engine.

These are called scrolling emissives/textures.

[rugged pecan]

thank you
i have this question been a while
your answer is help a lot to me 👍

super super thanks>W<

[eternal galleon]

as Noxxr said, in blender you do keyframes. Some software support panning/scrolling emissives. You can put this information into green channel for warframe, or into alpha channel. what it does that alpha channel acts like mask and is scrolled on the area of which should be lit constantly, this makes a mask technically that is also scrolling and creates effect of animation

[lyric abyss]

<@&778745217037238293>

thank you!

[eternal galleon]

https://twitter.com/Lubox_Art/status/1779929947781402888

Lubox (@Lubox_Art) on X

Revenant Abismo V2 Helmet finally "breathes"..
Collab with @GodRevenant

Twitter · Apr 15, 2024, 5:49 PM

[tawny osprey]

started on the highpoly and figuring out the tints

[west crow]

so good! love the snaking details on the back of the arms!!

[drifting mantle]

howdy guys, new here

i have done some stuff for planetside2 back in the day, figured i would give warframe a go

heard it was a decent community

[rotund nova]

we are but you should talk about this somewhere else. This channel specifically is reserved for discussions about TennoGen, the program that allows creators from the community to submit their own skins to be sold ingame.

I suggest you go to #warframe-general if you want to chat with others

[drifting mantle]

thats what i am talking about, doing skins and helmets

i did helmets and items for planetside , and a few other games so i was coming here to get an idea of what ppl are doing and watching vids of the proccess

[rotund nova]

ah, should've been more specific. Didn't know Planetside had a similar program

in that case, welcome

[drifting mantle]

ya it ended when daybreak purchased them, but was pretty nice for a while, i still get a check every 3 months for stuff i made 10 years ago but the check size is dwindling with the pside2 player base

[celest nest]

Yeah, we got a community of designers here, but we mostly congregate on another tennogen-specific server. Would you like an invite?

[drifting mantle]

sure thang

[celest nest]

Alright, invited

Don't be shy to converse, it's very non-formal

[woven nacelle]

I'm looking for a 3d artist to make this concept.

[tawny osprey]

probably all im gonna have time to get through today. i have a lot of time this week so i hope youre enjoying the dailies

today was mostly a helmet day

[proud kayak]

Wow love this! He is like a mummy wizard

[stone elk]

Seconded. Really love the concept @tawny osprey and incredibly keen to see you continue developing it

[west crow]

could i snag an invite for the tennogen server >>

[keen sundial]

yeh me too

i dont know how to 3d model but i hav a lot of ideas

[terse remnant]

is there a server for tennogen? If so, can I get an invite too?

[rugged pecan]

thank you>W<

[tawny osprey]

todays updates

I humbly submit this payment of obols

[west crow]

obols!!

[lyric abyss]

oboes!

[celest nest]

Doing WiP of hildryns' armor

Legs will be tacos.

[celest nest]

Do I make a hammer or a giant axe for her what do you think

[rotund nova]

considering we don't have either in-game yet, anything goes

[lyric abyss]

ham

[rotund nova]

I see Hildryn more as a frame who'd use a hammer but I really wanna know if you can make a really gnarly looking axe

[lyric abyss]

her deluxe comes with a axe skin

[rotund nova]

well yeah but we're talking about infested melees

[celest nest]

I can make both

Just wanna ship her with oen

[stone elk]

Genuinely adoring this concept so much

[tawny osprey]

I AM DONE WITH OBOLS. left off the scarf so you could see what you get with the chest unblocked

[tawny osprey]

really appreciate you saying so. its great when you hear that people like what youre working on. hopefully everyone feels that way when i wrap this up

[rotund nova]

Not too sure what to make of the obols having all relatively different sizes

[tawny osprey]

@rotund nova they may end up being placeholders. im mostly interested on where theyre going

[rotund nova]

it kind of ends up doing what the guide says not to do

[rotund nova]

that is fair

[tawny osprey]

also, the tiny ones basically became a nonstarter for me when i zoomed out lol

@rotund nova i think loids style is what i was thinking initially. basically the same size, shrunk down to fit the edges rather than cutting them off. but youre right. there it is. good call

[rotund nova]

ah I see

[rotund nova]

I mean yeah, they probably don't have to be exactly the same size and some more drastic outliers seem to be ok too. It just sounded like you had the Obols finished so I voiced my concern before you end up having to redo them when you're way further into the process

[tawny osprey]

totally reasonable. this is exactly why im dropping dailies this week. itll be my first order of business tomorrow. i appreciate the feedback

got a couple more days for big swings

[lapis thunder]

I LOVE your skin!!!

NEED. TO. PURCHASE.

[celest nest]

Well I better finish it then

[celest nest]

Btw

When I said "legs will be tacos" I meant it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879454530633359443/1230949113223446749/image.png?ex=6624b2f2&is=66236172&hm=c9d8fc8cad5367f239ad1237e65dcee04dec472b0371bc5bf3a97475f718436e&

I think it will work decently well with majority of frames. There's not lot of armor that hugs the leg, at least not infested

[tawny osprey]

i did wonder what you meant by tacos. looks great!

[hollow gazelle]

Omg take my money plz
Dat looks so good

Btw, How's dante with out helmet looks like?

[tawny osprey]

@hollow gazelle im trying to nail down a lot of things so ill show you the current version and todays bake tests. closer everyday

[lyric abyss]

they look more like clams

[obtuse hull]

✂️ Deleted some non-tennogen discussion.

[undone turtle]

So I understand this might be a strange question here, or not I'm really not sure I'm pretty new to this discord. But if a person has a concept art for a tennogen, is it possible at all to find someone who knows how to do the actual modeling part of it here?

[dusty tapir]

What exactly can you tennogen is it just warframes and weapons?

And attachments

[rotund nova]

You can but the standards are high so you'd have to have good designs and skills

[rotund nova]

As far as I know it's just:
* Warframe skins, custom helmets
* Gun skins
* Custom melees
* Syandanas
* Armor pieces

[dusty tapir]

Ah cool ill keep that in mind

[stone elk]

There are people who have teamed up in the past for someone to do concepts and then someone else do the modelling but idk the logistics

[atomic spade]

For that to happen, you as a concept artist must bring something good into the table, something worth of the 3D artist’s time, and something thats interesting to do too

[tawny osprey]

mostly down to the arms and scarf portions as of now. paint is just to get a feel

[runic basalt]

I have tons of ideas for tennogen. Anyone wanna hear them?

[lyric abyss]

do they fit within the tennogen guidelines?

[rotund nova]

Nice pfp I think you can just post them here

[runic basalt]

There’s no images. Just ideas

[unborn sparrow]

Whoever made this, god please have them submit it as a Tennogen

I would pay double the normal price for it

[rotund nova]

You can't make it a skin because TennoGen doesn't allow the modification of the body mesh

[unborn sparrow]

Then they should have tennogen deluxe 😡

[ivory radish]

it would become a nightmare for both creators and developers

[rotund nova]

Yeah. Also nice pfp xd

[ivory radish]

also that's a "heirloom" skin idea, not a deluxe skin
also "whoever made this"
the signature is right there

[rotund nova]

I believe it counts as a deluxe skin, because those mean skins that have modified body meshes

[ivory radish]

principally that would make "prime concepts" deluxe skins too, which they're not thought out to be
either way that is entirely outside of tennogen scope

[rotund nova]

Mhm

[rotund nova]

Prime concepts only add Prime details to the base mesh which sometimes replace some other elements but at the core the default mesh is still intact

Prime skins are also considered default for that Prime character, I wanted to say

[ivory radish]

at this point it's mere technicalities of definitions, and I feel like there's currently a vast distinction between "deluxe" and "heirloom" types of skins/ideas in that sense, and I leave my opinion at that (to stop myself from deviating away from tennogen topic)

[eternal galleon]

no default mesh is on most new primes changed

[jaunty current]

cant wait to see the dante skins!

[runic basalt]

My first idea is a transference suit and amp skin. the amp skin turns amps into a digital wristwatch, and the transferrence suit looks like a real world casual outfit consisting of a jacket, plain T-shirt, Jeans, and tennis shoes

[rotund nova]

cool idea, now come up with something that actually follows the rules and guidelines

[runic basalt]

Okay, thank you

[rotund nova]

none of your ideas are even remotely possible with TennoGen

It's a sad reality

[lyric abyss]

its a sad reality people dont read the guidlines

[rotund nova]

Yeah that too

[stone elk]

So incredibly keen to continue seeing your work on this

[tawny osprey]

Im trying to put in some time everyday. with any luck we should set to retopologize the helmet by the end of the week

[clear crater]

How do I make Tennogen gear?

Or skins

[eternal galleon]

Start by learning workflow of creation assets for games or more simply start learning Zbrush and Blender

[clear crater]

cool thanks

[stone elk]

And make sure to read the guidelines

[ivory radish]

you'll find everything you need to start over at #tennogen-resources

[manic badger]

Hi, how are you guys?
I'm new to tennogen but... Can you explain to me why you don't make a tennogen of Necramechs and Archwings?
I would appreciate it if you could answer

[ivory radish]

because that's outside the scope of what DE has permitted to submit for Tennogen, since there are no materials or guidelines on either Necramechs or Archwings

[elder crystal]

if I have a cross save PC acc and I make a purchase through the website on that acc how can I accept the items on your main device you play the game on

[atomic spade]

PC purchases are only for PC

If you make a Tennogen purchase in steam, its for the PC platform

Tennogen purchases are locked on the platform the purchase was done

Meaning that if you buy a skin with plat on PS4/5 its only gonna be useable on that platform

Why its done like this? Because Console purchases are with platinum, and PC ones with real currency. Platform lockimg these purchases stop other players to go from pc, buy the skin on a console with platinum (which they got without spending a single dime) then going back to PC with the skin, effectively damaging the Developers and the independent artists who made the skin

[steady furnace]

nope purchase on consoles stays on Consoles, if I bought a tennogen on PS, I'll be able to use it on xbox

[atomic spade]

Oh yeah, i forgot that part

[steady furnace]

no worries mate , this new system is very unique

[atomic spade]

But the point still stands, if they are buying the skin on the website, it means its a PC purchase

Which means its locked behind PC

[steady furnace]

exactly !

[atomic spade]

Which sucks, because the message implies they already did the purchase

[steady furnace]

wait... we can purchase tennogen skins via warframe's webstie ???

didn't know that

[atomic spade]

Not sure about the warframe website, but you can buy the skins directly from steam

[steady furnace]

I knew that... well it is strange if somebody bought a tennogen and then don't show up in game !

[atomic spade]

Yeah but they are on PS, or thats what i infer

They have the PS logo on their username

[steady furnace]

okay, so what Happend is that first, they didn't specify the main "dvice" he playing on... but if he's on console He can't use it as you said !

[unborn sparrow]

Doesnt DE pay the people regardless

[celest nest]

Steam sales account for vast majority of any tennogen profit

[rotund nova]

Yes but not per sale

at least on console

[obtuse hull]

✂️ Deleted some non-tennogen talk.

[rotund nova]

new rule: if the word TennoGen is not in the message it gets auto deleted 👍

[celest nest]

To be honest, I feel like people mistake this channel for something it isn't so rarely, that it's not really a problem, at worst a minor annoyance.

[rotund nova]

idk how active you actually are here but it does not happen rarely whatsoever

[rotund nova]

You might think it's rare but that's because they all get... well, deleted

[atomic spade]

Yeah, its pretty common

[lyric abyss]

too common

[ivory radish]

just wait for when it gets close to tennocon, people will start flooding in with questions about the 'con instead of the 'gen

[abstract drift]

Guys I want to buy tennogen sandana and it says that purchases from pc are not available on phones and vice versa, it turns out if I buy this sandana I won't have it on another platform?

[lyric abyss]

correct

[abstract drift]

It turns out that if I want to play with this sandana, I have to buy it on both PC and phone?

[lyric abyss]

yes

if its a tennogen one

[abstract drift]

Yeah, its tennogen…

[steady furnace]

well for tennogen there are 2 type on plateformes, Consoles and PC, tennogen bought on consoles stays on consoles and tennogen bought on PC stays on PC, Mobile phones are considered as consoles so the tennogen that will be bought won't be available to use on pc and vice versa

[abstract drift]

Thank u

[dark ibex]

Does anyone know if the Protea Technocron skin is available on iOS?

[steady furnace]

It is

[dark ibex]

Thanks!

[runic basalt]

Idea:
Would tennogen voidshell materials be possible?

[lyric abyss]

no,

read the guidlines

[runic basalt]

Okay

[rotund nova]

I believe rn you can only do Warframe helms, Armors, Syandanas, Melee weapons, and skins for Warframes, Landing Crafts, and a few weapons

[runic basalt]

Huh. Could’ve sworn I saw tennogen operator accessories

[rotund nova]

Forgot about those, thanks

But yeah those are the things you can make

[runic basalt]

Welp, imma just leave one comment here:
Xaku doesn’t have nearly enough skins

[rotund nova]

Then make one

I've always imagined an Ostron-style skin series and I think it'd be perfect for Xaku

[runic basalt]

I was thinking a wandering ronin type robe

Or a ghost-rider inspired helmet for xaku

[lyric abyss]

that wouldnt be allowed per the guidelines

[runic basalt]

Okay

But what about the helmet

[lyric abyss]

maybe? depends on the specific look

[runic basalt]

Flaming skull

But still same general shape as the kintsu helmet

[lyric abyss]

it would need to be very stylized

[rotund nova]

Could whip up a design sooner or later

[runic basalt]

The main inspiration for this idea is the fortnite skin eternal voyager

[rotund nova]

No idea what that is

[runic basalt]

Basically a cyberpunk ghost rider

[lyric abyss]

ya. that wouldnt fly

[runic basalt]

That’s just the inspiration though

[rotund nova]

Mhm, just gotta stylize it

[runic basalt]

Yeah

[runic basalt]

Really hope you have fun designing it

[rotund nova]

Oh, I'm not that good at it

[runic basalt]

That shouldn’t matter if it’s something you enjoy doing

[rotund nova]

Honestly, I'm not sure if it's fun to me, knowing nobody would model a design that sucks lole

[tepid wren]

But i need a kullervo skin😭😭

[rotund nova]

make one

[signal silo]

I must admit, I love the Techno-Skins For Nidus and Protea. I just wish Noob made more than 4 ;-;

[tepid wren]

How?

[rotund nova]

You can draw a design, then model it

[steady furnace]

Or work with someone who'll accept to make the model for you in exchange of money or idk

[rotund nova]

The money is what you get from selling TennoGen

That's why modelers are very selective and have high standards. Because they want it to be worth it

[thick root]

Some of us are doing it full time, and use it to earn a living, so it makes sense

[rotund nova]

why do I constantly see this channel having "new messages" only for there to be nothing when I check in on it? Are there comments being getting auto-deleted all the time?

Perhaps

[eager quail]

Compromised accounts spamming phising links. The bots snipes them, but the channel remains lit up.

[rotund nova]

ahhh

I had a feeling this was the case but that's good to know

[celest nest]

There's so many of them?

[rotund nova]

apparently

[harsh root]

Is it better to make a standalone alt helmet or do a skin and alt helmet set?

[rotund nova]

Depends on what you wanna do

But I think the latter would offer more customizability, if you can mix-and-match helmets and skins

[harsh root]

I have so many alt helm ideas but doing skins for them not so much

[frigid parrot]

I have noticed that the kuvael huntress skin for ivara is strangely lower resolution, is this a bug or intentional?

[rotund nova]

this might not be the right channel for this but I'm not the one to decide that. Just don't be surprised when a mod removes your message because iirc this exclusively about discussions of TennoGen that is still being worked on.

[autumn field]

we need a tenno op suit

[rotund nova]

?

[stray iris]

I assume Dax styled tennogen isn't planned to be permitted, since it hasn't yet but Entrati has?

[rotund nova]

Dax is not a style like the faction styles

[celest nest]

Dax is not a fully fleshed out separate faction, just a small subset of NPCs, so we don't really have a design doc to work from. No design doc = we're not allowed to model.

[stray iris]

Dang

I guess it's a bit too close to what the Orokin would be anyway

I'd love Dax Cat armour

[lyric abyss]

should i assume you read the guidelines and chose to ignore what is allowed?

[lyric abyss]

that isnt even allowed for tennogen

[stray iris]

Gah rip

[lyric abyss]

i mean, if you read the guidelines, you would of known

[stray iris]

It was on a different page to the one I read

There's a LOT of guidelines

[rotund nova]

reading the titles should give you enough of a clue what is allowed and what isn't. And if you remove the categories that by title alone obviously have nothing to do with what you're looking for there is not much left to go through to find (or not find) your cosmetic type.

I left in Operator Accessories because the other dude asked for Operator suits.

[harsh root]

Are there any samples of Warframe rigs out there? I've been wanting to do some stuff for Citrine but she has a rather abnormal shape and I feel like I'd kinda need to know where the bones that things mount onto are to do this right.

Like is this a thing that I should just contact DE and ask about? And if so where and how should I go about doing that?

[rotund nova]

Are you trying to edit the mesh of her body? Because you're not allowed to do that

no I don't think this is about any TennoGen project

and if it is, you don't need to rig anything to work on the body

[rotund nova]

Yeah unless you're gonna check how different poses look, I didn't think you'd be needing the rigs

[harsh root]

Why would I be talking about editing the mesh if I'm specifically trying to figure out where things mount onto the main mesh?

I'm talking about accessories for the chest, shoulders and legs. A lot of the existing stuff mounts pretty weirdly on Citrine and I'd like to avoid that by checking what bones they actually parent onto rather than just guessing how things would look..

[rotund nova]

what, why didn't you just say you're working on attachments?

also DE does that part, you don't need to check attachment placement for frames yourself. You just need to make sure there's a long part on the not visible side of the attachment that sticks into the frame's body

you wanna know how your chest armour looks on Citrine? Grab her model from #tennogen-resources and place the thing yourself wherever on the chest you want

[harsh root]

So basically make a template or example of how I envision the placements and hope DE can make it work? Seems a bit jank but I guess that makes sense considering that there's probably a few different placement styles across different frames.

Is it similar for Syandanas? I've been planning on just doing a set of stuff cause I have ideas cooking in my brain but want to make sure that it can fit with this ephemera

[rotund nova]

yeah, it's the same for Syandanas

[celest nest]

You cannot make something that fits with shards, because shards are connected to multiple bones, and we're as tennogen artists (read freelancers) are allowed to rig only to one - the upper body core.

[harsh root]

I mean specifically for the connection point yes. I'd been trying to cross reference the sample mesh with how they line up in game for a rough estimate but if it's a thing that is somewhat refined during the implementation process than it isn't a big deal if it isn't perfect.

[obtuse hull]

✂️ Removed some unnecessary dialogue.

[neat nova]

How long do tennogen take to be sent to your account after buying them may I ask?

[rotund nova]

on PC it should be near instant

if you have issues with that, either wait a bit or contact support bc this channel is specifically about discussing TennoGen projects that are still in the works

[radiant lodge]

It's usually pretty fast. I suggest running a mission or going to a relay. Sometimes it needs to load.

[gleaming vine]

I wonder if its allowed to make a chest armor in the shape of a bowtie

[celest nest]

Realistically yes, but low chances of it being accepted because DE wants "things of substance" to push through.

[split ice]

I made a tie, so probably yes as long as you make it interesting enough, given the size

A normal tie is easier because much larger so it have overall a more interesting silhouette and surface to put details, but I think a bow tie is definitely possible with the right design

[harsh root]

If there were usage percentages for accessories it would probably say that I main the diva chest plate, thank you for making it.

[iron oyster]

I suck at designs😭😭😭😭😭

[rotund nova]

Me too

But we can always practice

[celest nest]

Hey. I'm working on Ivara, almost finished but

Do you think the top of the hood is too homogenous? I.e. it's too much same space?

Here in color

[rotund nova]

On one hand, some smooth empty space is nice to break up and contrast the otherwise very rough textures everywhere but on the other hand, since it seems to be the only space that's this smooth, it also feels kinda out of place.

It might be worth a shot to see if extending the spinal shape from the front further to the back helps it. +-50% longer maybe. Could also help if you added a bit of that beige to the top but only where that spinal shape is so it's not too prominent.

very rough sketch of where I'd add the colour. Maybe even shorter and slimmer.

ignore the part where the antenna starts, didn't know how to make the transition smoother

[celest nest]

Ok will redo

[kindred sky]

hey uuh, sorry if this has been asked before but I can't find an answer anywhere: I'm trying to make a melee skin that's inspired by the Entrati Labs stuff and Qorvex, both sources have elements not mentioned on the Entrati faction guide, do we know if they're allowed?

[rotund nova]

what elements do you mean specifically?

[kindred sky]

the vitreums and the "floaty bits" like the parts of Qorvex's signature archgun (can't remember the name right now)

[ivory radish]

as in the brutalism theme, I'd assume

[rotund nova]

Like those floaty things?

[rotund nova]

I'll assume that's what you mean. What the TennoGen faction style guide says about Entrati refers only to the neo-gothpunk part of the labs and the dusty burtalist rocks and desert (which I think is where you also saw the glowy eyes that peek through the walls are) are not part of that. If I understood it correctly that's part of the Murmur faction style which isn't allowed for TennoGen (yet). Also Qorvex and Mandonel technically still count as Tenno faction although more stylized and in the case of Mandonel it has Entrati parts but itself isn't considered an Entrati weapon like Ruvox or Trumna are.

[kindred sky]

I see, you assumed correctly. Sorry I didnt reply, was asleep.

About the eyes though, I dont mean the glowing murmur ones you shoot at, I mean the realistic eyes encased in Entrati machinery, the "Vitreums" you protect in Effervo, that also appear as a decoration for completing a full EDA run

[celest nest]

You can try doing it, and if DE has a problem with it, just retexture them to glowing Entrati orbs.

Those with glowing swirls and carvings

[kindred sky]

Yeah thats a good idea

[kindred sky]

It occurs to me it might have come off as rude, so before I forget, I wanted to say thanks for the help and specially the suggestion to use one of em entrati orbs as a backup option

[prisma shale]

Looking forward to see what you come up with. I like your idea a lot

[rotund nova]

I didn't think you came off as rude

[celest nest]

No, you weren't rude

[rotund nova]

Gauss helm concept.

[rotund nova]

anything I should fix/add?.

[hollow gazelle]

Are those 4 deadly eyes I see
||Jk Dats a flawless design for me||

[prisma shale]

Personally I think it's fine the way it is. Maybe just flesh it out (pun intended)

[rotund nova]

wdym by “flesh it out”?

[prisma shale]

Well is this an infested themed skin? I thought it was with the eyes and texture of the front face plate

[rotund nova]

I think those are jets on the back

[prisma shale]

Either way I mean just go along with it. Like we're the eyes are, is it just gonna be a black void?

[rotund nova]

ah. no no.

[prisma shale]

OOOHHHH

[rotund nova]

working on it lol.

[rotund nova]

hmm

[prisma shale]

No worries, take your time. vehicle themed warframes are awesome in my book

[rotund nova]

[rotund nova]

Guess I couldn't tell either lol

[rotund nova]

where do you see infested elements?

I think it looks cool either way

[prisma shale]

The smooth face plate and what i am assuming are the energy accents. and the headlights, I thought there where eyes

Always wanted a car themed gauss skin like zyphrs deluxe

The more I look at it the less of it I see

Also for some reason the front facing side of the helmet gave me an alien vibe. But now that I look at it more I don't see it

[rotund nova]

Rough sketch

wide feet

[rotund nova]

yeah, working on fixing that.

[harsh root]

Might be a tad bit goofy idk

[onyx arch]

for mag?

[rotund nova]

I assume so?

[harsh root]

yeep

[lyric abyss]

that would get rejected immediately

[harsh root]

Why?

[lyric abyss]

did you read the tennogen requirement document?

[harsh root]

A few times, I can't exactly think of anything that this would be an issue with off the top of my head

[lyric abyss]

what approved faction does the head belong to?

[harsh root]

I mean it's entirely based on a mix of infested and the terminals in the entrati labs.

[lyric abyss]

it doesnt fit either of those styles

[harsh root]

Gonna have to agree to disagree with you

[rapid cipher]

does tenno gen have to be in 3D format?
because im terrable at 3D modeling but great at drawing so is it possible to submit a design just in concept art?

[lyric abyss]

yes.

[harsh root]

Read it already and it doesn't pertain to the object in game I'm basing it on.

[ivory radish]

you could potentially find a 3D artist to collaborate with, if they find your concept good enough to work with

[celest nest]

That TV head will have to be HEAVILY stylized to fit into the game, concept can work, but as it is right now it looks cartoony and not fitting any faction.

We're also only allowed to make skins for factions with already existing design docs. TV heads from 1999 don't exist yet, and don't have a design doc, so we can't do anything with them.

[harsh root]

Yeah it's basically a rough blocking out at the moment needs a lot of work still. As for the whole TV heads not existing yet meh, I'm probably going to have it more closely designed to match the entrati lab terminals. If it doesn't fly oh well, I kinda just wanted a break from other things and this was fun.

[celest nest]

Here's what I think. If you do that, it won't pass, those terminals are just mid 80's Apple 2's. But, if you stylize it to be Corpus instead, and aim for more robotic style, it will have much higher chances of passing.

[harsh root]

Problem is it'd be hard to do a corpus spin on it without removing what made it a fun idea in the first place. I can't think of any Corpus examples that resemble a tube screen off the top of my head but maybe I could find a way.

[celest nest]

You are allowed to take liberties as long as you stay withing design guidelines of hte faction. A lot of my skins don't closely resemble already existing infested either.

[rotund nova]

I'm going to be real with you: if you keep the TV head idea as it is right now, it just won't get accepted, ever. And just because something exists as an asset in the game doesn't mean it's fair game for TennoGen creators to base their skins on it unless it's specifically allowed in the TennoGen guidelines.

If DE ever make 1999 a legit style for TennoGen it's still most likely to be tacticool attachments or Operator gear. A literal TV head is just too silly and cartoon of an idea in and of itself. Like Vulb said, if you want to see this have any chance of getting accepted, it needs to be heavily stylized. Corpus robotics should work but even Grineer could work if you want to keep the bulkiness.

[marsh dew]

id love to see this but with every frame kinda like the Halloween pumpkin OR have it usable on the operator/drifter maybe both

[rotund nova]

Not sure about this.

[rotund nova]

Any feedback is welcome

I don't really see any Heirloom in there tbh

[rotund nova]

could you give me any references?.

uhh

what kind of references are we talking?

[rotund nova]

like anything that defines as "heirloom" or anything you would like to be on one.

that might take some time

Not sure if this should even be in this channel

yeah, that too

[rotund nova]

hm?

[rotund nova]

no worries

[rotund nova]

Heirloom has nothing to do with TennoGen so the mods will probably delete any conversations about non-TennoGen cosmetics

[rotund nova]

I see.

[obtuse hull]

Heirlooms are made by DE, therefore this is not tennogen discussion.

[rotund nova]

see?

but yeah, I didn't catch that this wasn't an appropiate topic for this channel early enough

[rotund nova]

rip

[prisma shale]

Where do I find the accepted themes for tennogen? ex; grineer/entrati/infested

I can never seem to find it

[rotund nova]

hopes and prayers

[prisma shale]

There's an official one I know it

[rotund nova]

#tennogen-resources message

i think?

first link.

[prisma shale]

Oh yeah huh. For some reason the channel was invisible to me :/

[rotund nova]

[solid pulsar]

Hello TennoGen artists! We have just added Jade's files to the Steam Workshop page with the other Warframe files!
https://www.warframe.com/steamworkshop/content-files-and-examples
Jade’s helmet wings can be complex, and we’ve included some additional instructions for working with her, both in the "Read Me.txt" and on the Forum post here: https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1401173-jade-files-now-available/

We are asking players and content creators alike to be mindful of Jade Shadows spoilers when posting online, and we ask the same of our TennoGen artists: especially during this launch window, please refrain from posting images or videos to social media using these Jade files. Wherever possible, use spoiler-free images in your Steam Workshop uploads.

Thank you!

[rotund nova]

[celest nest]

Time to get reaaal weird with it.

Should we render and pose her closed and hidden?

[lyric abyss]

what does this have to do with tennogen?

[solid pulsar]

yes please, just respect that not everybody has played the quest yet wherever / whenever possible

[somber willow]

Sorry for the post but i was wondering why is this happening for the sevagoth skin, is a a bug? Im using the Ezriel skin btw. Is there a ticket i need to submit?

[rotund nova]

you gotta open a ticket

no one here can help you with something like that and the mods will tell you that this isn't channel appropiate anyway

[somber willow]

alr thank you

[rotund nova]

@muted echo the TennoGen program is for people in the community to create cosmetics that then can get accepted by DE to be made available ingame. On PC these cosmetics cost real money which one part goes to the creator and one part goes to DE (also a bit to Steam). On console they're available for platinum.

[steady furnace]

*but Tennogen bought on consoles stays on consoles

[rotund nova]

*while TennoGen bought on PC stays on PC

[muted echo]

Awesome.

Makes me wanna learn how to model

[rotund nova]

you should

[rotund nova]

It seems super fun

Just remember there are guidelines, and you'll have to get familiar with the game's factions' aesthetics

[rotund nova]

only if you make faction skins

Tenno can technically look like anything

it's more like you gotta understand DE's general art style of Warframe

[rotund nova]

Yeah, which could be called an aesthetic in a sense

[ivory radish]

flowy, organic, and imperfect shapes

[rotund nova]

Mhm

It's important if you wanna take this stuff srsly

[tawny osprey]

life went a bit crazy but im back. entrati dante body with the defaut head just to see what it would look like. were right at the end

[rotund nova]

Yooo welcome back girl

[tawny osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/janet-good-place-nonbinary-gif-13039562

but thanks all the same 😄

[rotund nova]

Interesting.

[tawny osprey]

To be clear, this is the low poly baked out in Marmoset. The body is all set for color. I will add the helmet when it gets retopologized

[hollow gazelle]

U go girl🤣

[rotund nova]

slay queen 💅

[tawny osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-good-place-gif-22815625

[dusty tapir]

So slay king?

[tawny osprey]

I’ll allow it

This isn’t even its final form

[celest nest]

Looks good. Very entrati

[rotund nova]

much wow

[proven nacelle]

omg YES

[gleaming vine]

what plan do you have for the helmet?

[tawny osprey]

@gleaming vine its actually done. it just needs retopo and some work on the emmisive. please hold while i jump into zbrush

[gleaming vine]

oh? can't wait to see the final form

[tawny osprey]

@gleaming vine i think that about covers it

paintjob subject to change of course

[gleaming vine]

looks awesome! even the top view looks amazing

[tawny osprey]

i most nervous about what DE will say about the pipe. it would be a shame to lose it

[balmy vine]

well... i wanted to try creating something but idk something gone wrong and the app doesn't work i mean the "help'' part shows nothin'

kinda sad

oh nevermind it works now somehow

[tawny osprey]

@balmy vine had the same problem the other day. heres the link to where it sends you for next time it breaks

https://www.warframe.com/steamworkshop/help/

[dusty tapir]

I'm in love with this design they better ad it it's just mwa

[prisma shale]

I hope they add it. I want to equip Zato Excalibur animation set so I can smoke two pipes lol

[tawny osprey]

I would love to provide everybody with an unlimited number of skins from this faction. It’s been my favorite pretty much as soon as it came out. Love the aesthetic. Maybe some murmur too. I wish I could get some solid numbers on how long it takes to add a skin after approval. I also wish I could get a ballpark on how much people bring in for the first few months. But NDAs and all that. I would for sure do this full-time if I could.

I’m already thinking about what to do next when and if this one gets approval

[proven nacelle]

This better get in the game or else I’m gonna cry. q~q

[tawny osprey]

Well, hopefully the whole community feels that way when it goes up in the steam workshop and I get some high res pics out there

[rotund nova]

wait I'm confused, why does it matter what the people in the steam workshop think?

[tawny osprey]

I think that it doesn’t matter in a literal sense, but I’m sure that DE notices when people are enthusiastic

[rotund nova]

ah ok

[tawny osprey]

I’d much rather be at the top of the shortlist because people really want it

[rotund nova]

sounded like it was some big deal in the acceptance progress, which it is only marginally

[tawny osprey]

I know that at some point there was a policy change so that they stopped putting out everything that was approved all at once and just put out a few items so that everybody got equal attention. I don’t know how they select that list though.

The sooner I can get something approved and officially in the game the sooner I can start working on the next thing and so on

[rotund nova]

just trying to clarify because many people think that DE gives a hot steaming what the workshop says in terms of user interaction

[tawny osprey]

No, no. I just think every little bit helps. I think if the work is good, the more eyes the better.

It’s much more important that I hit everything DE asks for as far as specs, but I would also love if people were demanding something I made 😂

It’s also good to know I’m on the right track

[rotund nova]

no yeah, obviously seeing people desire your stuff to be ingame is a good thing

[rancid tiger]

@obtuse hull sorry to bother but I had a question regarding tennogen. I created my account on iOS and linked it to cross save and then created a pc account. It show's tennogen items in market on my ipad but on PC i do not have the tennogen section at all. My question is, If I buy tennogen items on my ipad and I equip them on my warframe.. will I not be able to login through my PC unless I remove the tennogen skin from my frame? Or how does that exactly work?

Anyone can answer this tho.. i only pinged them cuz they were the only mod online atm.. any insight would be appreciated. I know that iOS is considered under the "console" category, what would happen if I buy and equip the skin.

[obtuse hull]

Unfortunately, I don't know the answer to this.

( Be aware that mods are volunteers, not DE employees )

[rancid tiger]

Ohhh okie.. if its not any hassle for you, could you ask this question to a DE member. I'm not sure if they'd respond to the message here directly or do I need to open a support ticket maybe?

[obtuse hull]

Submitting a ticket may get you an answer

[rancid tiger]

Okie thanks.. i wasn't sure if we were allowed to ping any DE staff or not, which is why I pinged mod. I'll submit ticket then.

[obtuse hull]

Not unless they're actively chatting.

[stone elk]

It’s utterly fantastic

Been super cool watching your process

[hushed ocean]

the 3D models of Warframes can be inported into Blender?

[ivory radish]

as .obj or .fbx files, yes

[hushed ocean]

ty

[rotund nova]

sir this channel is for TennoGen discussions only