tennogen-creation-discussion

[rotund nova]

I'm just saying because I'm more than willing to go bankrupt for ash tsukuyomi it's easily one of if not ash's best skin

[uncut eagle]

I concur

[severe gorge]

Hah

might have to take a pause on that

had a stupid idea that i now need to ponder

[hushed hound]

And we all know that stupid ideas have the highest priority in our heads

[severe gorge]

Yep

[eager quail]

I get the enthusiasm, but please don't upload memes.

[severe gorge]

ok so my idea... medusa lavos

[rotund nova]

Yes!

[rotund nova]

Sorry 😞

[jagged wigeon]

This right here, perfect idea

[celest nest]

Hmmm

Medusa lavos you say

After all, why not.

[jagged wigeon]

Do it Vulb, do your infested take on snek boi

[rotund nova]

plague Doctor lavos?

[onyx arch]

we have plague doctor limbo but I would love a Plague Doctor Lavos

[severe gorge]

BRUH

MY IDEA

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-disappointed-fan-seriously-what-are-you-doing-judging-you-gif-17485289

jk idk steal it if you want

[celest nest]

Ok ok I'll back off

[severe gorge]

no do it

[celest nest]

No

[severe gorge]

you probably would do it better than me anyways

[celest nest]

Only if you allow at this point

[severe gorge]

I allow

[celest nest]

Wonderful

He's really op too

But I literally cannot play him without an mmo mouse

[severe gorge]

yup, i main him

[jagged wigeon]

Potion Seller Lavos

[celest nest]

MMMMMM travlr, you caaant handle my potions

[onyx arch]

too bad we cant mess with the mesh or I would make potion seller lavos with draught coat and all

[rotund nova]

You can with deluxe skins. I think

[ivory radish]

only as concepts, not as actually acceptable submissions

[rotund nova]

Ohhh ok

[celest nest]

You can mess with head mesh , which should be enough considering both the Knight and Potion Seller are essentially just heads

[rotund nova]

we need more tennogen for the best boy nidus don't get me wrong what he has is drippy as can be but I need more

[severe gorge]

idk man, technocyst looks great

[rotund nova]

It is pretty good it's actually the one I'm using right now

[thick root]

I am scared of making nidus skin when technocyst exists

[celest nest]

I am scared of making nidus in generral. I'm very scaredy

[rotund nova]

Lads I need skins for my mains lol

and I hate to say it but recently (outside of protea deluxe) tennogen has been putting out the best skins

just a little salty I'm missing out on amazing tennogen because I'm on switch

[jagged wigeon]

Get off switch, get on outlet

[rotund nova]

if I had the materials available I'd be making tennogen or at least trying there's plenty of ideas for skins to be made it just takes time

[ivory radish]

surely you've got a pencil and paper around to start, right?

[rotund nova]

I mean I have ideas I just have trouble putting my thoughts onto paper

[jagged wigeon]

Better take advantage of tennotober then because that's a good way to get some practice done

[celest nest]

If you're typing it on a computer, or laptop, nothing prohibits you form downloading blender and giving a go.

[rotund nova]

huh I figured blender costs a pretty penny

[rotund nova]

I'm also unfortunately not on a computer

[amber oyster]

Nah it’s free

[severe gorge]

^

[zenith flax]

Oh yeah, it's even on steam if you want it to stay updated automatically

[severe gorge]

Whats the easiest thing to make

I want to try something but cant really finish

So i probably should start on small peices

[amber oyster]

Armour or a weapon

[severe gorge]

Thanks Mate!

[rotund nova]

is there any chance old tennogen will come to switch or any console after crossplay?

There's some wicked skins that I'm in love with but I'm unable to get them because of my platform but I can still link them in chat

[rotund nova]

Idk who made that lavos tennogen but it's amazing and now I require 175 plat so I can use this art

[severe gorge]

Can we work in hybrid orokin-infested?

[jagged wigeon]

Isn't that just infested, considering the frames are of Orokin design?

[celest nest]

That would just be tenno/infested and yes, it's possible

[severe gorge]

thanks, im probably going to stick to my solaris style but was just wondering

I feel like serrration on a dagger (not the mod) would make it look cool, so thats what i'm doing

[severe gorge]

its FLAT

and i have no idea what im doing

[celest nest]

Yeah definitely a good idea to maybe go through blender tutorials before attemñting tennogen, which expects a pretty professional level of quality

[amber oyster]

Also helps to draw up a concept of what you want before starting to model

[severe gorge]

I mean that i have no idea where this concept is going

i know blender, been using it for about a year

[severe gorge]

honestly a great idea

[rotund nova]

people don't draw concepts before going into Blender?

that's always the #1 thing to do when designing anything

at least in terms of actual creative process where things have to put into shape

[severe gorge]

hah

i can use blender better than i can draw

[rotund nova]

doesn't matter

even a simple sketch should do the job

proportions don't have to be accurate, that's stuff you can adjust later when you're in the stage where you actually make the model

[severe gorge]

Thanks

[lean flare]

Someone make sevagoth skin please

[oblique shore]

There's one ready waiting to be accepted

By Goosmo
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2849199546&searchtext=

[jagged wigeon]

Xaku deluxe is gonna rock but I am interested in seeing how a tennogen skin can be made for them considering it's a very weird one

[ivory radish]

Bless Goosmo's work

[oblique shore]

It'll probably be best to keep the composite/broken concept in mind, mostly bc of the mesh, so you could play around with three textures, similar to base ig

[severe gorge]

Thats only me

[severe gorge]

Yeah im going to restart when i get home

with a drawing this time

[rocky imp]

Fun render for my new uploads

[severe gorge]

wow

[hushed hound]

I’d like to see a 2 handed nikana skin based off of the eightfold long blade from breath of the wild.

[nova goblet]

inb4 Kahl tennogen

[proper kettle]

I meeean, Considering Kahl can use all the armor accessories that we can use... 🤣

Kinda expecting it, really!

[shell talon]

||Kahlogen. Like Halogen, but with 100% more Kahl! Kahlogen lightbulbs are all the rage nowadays!||

[nova goblet]

||Chipper did say Kahl was as dim as a 2 watt bulb ||

[celest nest]

||Don't Corpus use exclusively LEDs? Wouldnt it mean he's pretty bright ?||

||Actually, how does Chipper even know what a watt bulb is if game is set potentially millions years into the future. How would any bulb survive so far, if even today they are being phased out||

[shell talon]

Let's move chat that's more involved with Veilbreaker to #the-duviri-paradox . 😄 Also, just realized I made the mistake of not spoiler blocking my last message. XD Please do also remember to spoiler block things to do with story characters and such outside of the appropriate channels! 🙂

[nova goblet]

True haha

[celest nest]

I'm scared of visiting new places. You go, I stay.

[graceful saddle]

Why don't we have more gauss skins :(

[rocky imp]

Guass is a hard one to make for

[rotund nova]

Let me say I feel you but you have to understand that working with Gauss' model is pain

[graceful saddle]

Ok :( that's why his skins are the same shape

[rotund nova]

ALL TennoGen skins are the same shape

TennoGen creators aren't allowed to change the mesh of the body

[celest nest]

You can do a lot with retexturing it, but in my case, it's simply because every time I sit down to work on gauss I end up doing something else

A million excuses I have, but main one is laziness as opposed to working on easier frames

[rotund nova]

wasn't I supposed to be your drill sergeant to "motivate" you to get you working on Gauss?

[celest nest]

Yeah, wasn't you?

[rotund nova]

well what are you doing here, having chit chat? Get back to work this instant!

[thick root]

I am working on gauss, am soon done

[celest nest]

I am sleeping. It is 2am

[rotund nova]

get a good nights rest and then get back to work!

[burnt wraith]

what name would you be calling it? Kinetilyst? Velocilyst?

[thick root]

dunno

maybe just algalyst like my harrow

[rotund nova]

boo

[thick root]

Kinetilyst sounds good, might just go with that

[rotund nova]

Speedolyst

[thick root]

It will work in line with electrolyst and the other one

[rotund nova]

Dynalyst?

[burnt wraith]

thank you, was something I came up with (namewise) a back a few months, also have ideas for other warframes if you want ideas later

[rotund nova]

Kinetilyst is good but it doens't roll off the tongue too well imo

[burnt wraith]

also, nitrolyst is another name I've thought of for Gauss

[thick root]

Oh i like that one

[rotund nova]

Nitrolyst is neat too

[thick root]

I will go with that

[rotund nova]

my vote is for Nitrolyst

[thick root]

Ty for the name, i am not very good at making those up

[shell talon]

NoSalyst!

Totally a joke, because of Fast and the Furious. XD

[rotund nova]

nothing stronger than Familyst

[burnt wraith]

Dominicalyst? Torettolyst?

[rotund nova]

but I agree that finding names can be very difficult at times

[thick root]

Ironic because erra's family is even more dysfunctional than the entrati

[rotund nova]

it's still a lot of fun for me

[burnt wraith]

Don't you mean "Fast and the Furalyst"?

[shell talon]

lol

[graceful saddle]

TAKE MY MONEY 💰💰💰

[graceful saddle]

Sentient style, I like it

[graceful saddle]

Good idea

[shell talon]

Wrong channel for this, but we don't know yet. 🙂

[rotund nova]

I’m immediately buying that when it gets accepted

[hushed hound]

You going to sleep on it?

[severe gorge]

fastolyst

[rotund nova]

I was actually making a joke about speedo shorts

[lyric abyss]

*if

[rotund nova]

nah

chances are pretty high with Goosmo's stuff that they get accepted

[rotund nova]

Yes

[ashen cradle]

we call them budgie smuggler's lol

[graceful saddle]

We need 100% chance it gets accepted

[vague dragon]

Where is corvid sevagoth then DE

[rotund nova]

You need to understand how TennoGen and its rounds work.

[vague dragon]

Yeah I was joking

[severe gorge]

Grineer oven: cookurr

[vague dragon]

It's the chakkhurr, but instead of the bulky part there is a microwave

[grave oasis]

So what options do I have available for making tennogen?

And do I copy the warframe mesh and model or work around that?

and can we do custom animation stuff? Like giving Lavos a twin set of snake or dragon tails

[golden hinge]

Please ion loki and ion ash

[rocky imp]

For warframe skins, you may only make custom meshes for helmets.

Body textures need to be on the original base body mesh.

[celest nest]

Very sad!

But true.

[severe gorge]

De prob doesnt want us competing with their deluxes

[nova goblet]

Probably but even then you can say that some Tennogen outdo them still

[amber oyster]

Nah it’d just be a pain to have to rig a bunch of skins like that

Too much extra work

[zenith flax]

I really wish tennogen could work with the meshes from deluxes as well as the base skin tho, that'd be cool- Although it presents the complication of, would they be purchaseable without buying the deluxe for the mesh first, and has to do with where money would go.

[celest nest]

If we could change meshes, I'd already make a full on Giger-Beksinski series or skins

Rekkou would fill the game with gundams

[rotund nova]

OMG Beksinski-frame!

[celest nest]

One of my favorite artists for textures alone, next to Wayne Barlowe

[rotund nova]

someone who understands art like this needs to draw concepts of what Warframes would look like if Beksinski designed them

[celest nest]

Maybe I should apply as 3d designer for Scorn team...

[rotund nova]

Can't wait for Scorn

[celest nest]

If I could bring Beksinski's vision into Warframe, it would be incredible

But I'm not even sure if I'm on the level to do it

DE team is kinda doing it with specificaly Sentient ships

[rotund nova]

I wonder if it's possible to translate its Giger-esque aesthetic into Warframe as TennoGen or even a deluxe skin without it feeling like a direct copy

[celest nest]

Easily

Giger worked on a set of art rules, and they would spread beyond just xenomorphs.

His art is very sexual, very aggressive, focused on pains of birth

[rotund nova]

considering the different artworks he made it should be possible

just look at the one with the gun

[celest nest]

Scorn understands it extremely well. It doesn't just give it's characters long heads and black skin - it makes every action you take be akin to being born again and again. Every mahcine is like an organ you insert, or receive soemthing that inserts, aggressively, and often contrary to it's desire.

I feel like Scorn would receive full support from Giger while something like Prometheus would not

(I still really dislike how studio decided to play out Engineers and over-explain them)

[rotund nova]

didn't someone make a Xenomorph Nidus concept?

[celest nest]

(Why did you even need to do it and turn them into generic progenitor-aliens. You had a perfectly mysterious elephant-dude, sitting in a perfectly mysterious, impossible looking ship, why couldn't you just be content with the idea that not all things must be explained and dumbed down)

[rotund nova]

that's just how Alien as a franchise works unfortunately

over explaining everything is just what they always did

[celest nest]

And that's why 1 and 2 are still the best

[rotund nova]

precisely

[celest nest]

One is pure horror, encountering the unknown, and second is pure action, fighting off the unknown in an unknown universe. That's it.

Simple, rustic, beautiful, yeah.

Solidified by incredible creature design (and biological background) designed by H.R. Giger.

[jagged wigeon]

I now want to see this happen DE

[desert belfry]

Giger inspired warframe skins 🤤

[desert belfry]

Googled "nidus xenomorph" 😢

[jagged wigeon]

We got another one boys

[zenith flax]

oh no

I think I know where there search ended up 👀

[rotund nova]

omg I almost choked, I'm so sorry!

[oblique dew]

when r d next prime resurgence warframes coming

[burnt wraith]

soon, tm

but not really the channel to ask that

[oblique dew]

where

[burnt wraith]

#players-helping-players

[rotund nova]

im very curious should i google it

[desert belfry]

😔

[rotund nova]

i googled it

[rotund nova]

Newgrounds still bringing the A-game

[jagged wigeon]

Who?

[lyric abyss]

you dont know of new grounds?!?

[jagged wigeon]

The only grounds I know are those with grass

[jagged wigeon]

I feel a bioshock inspired helmet could go with the corpus theme, like a Big Daddy helm for Grendel or something

[desert belfry]

Atlas maybe

[burnt wraith]

chroma maybe as well

[obtuse hull]

Chat was cleaned up, please keep the topics to tennogen discussion.

[nova goblet]

One thing I’m curious about that I haven’t seen done is backpacks. Any particular reason for that? Would be nice to see some faction themed backpacks

[hushed hound]

A backpack would be perfect for @rocky imp warframes

[radiant lodge]

I imagine backpacks would interfere with syandanas and ephemeras.

[rotund nova]

no

a Syandana that looks like a backpack

we're not talking about a new type of cosmetic

[onyx arch]

you mean like the Saturn Six syandana? it kinda looks like a backpack

[nova goblet]

More like the Flox syandana but yeah.

[celest nest]

I had a backpack syandana, but it was stupid and not accepted

[uncut eagle]

I’m sure it was fine

[celest nest]

Well, if it was fine, it would be accepted

[zenith flax]

I'd love to see something similar to the leg attachments on Kahl. A hardcase box, and a cloth part with lotsa pouches. Either as syandana/s or armor pieces.

[nova goblet]

Had something like that in mind for a grineer backpack but sadly don’t have the skills to make it

[past fable]

I ran into a problem where certain shaders were not working.
When I applied the shader, it turned pink and caused an error.
EvolutionPBR_2018_3_0.glsl o

Is there any solution other than lowering the substancepainter Version?
I bought it on the Steam version.
substancepainter ver8.2.0
windows10

[past fable]

I forgot to mention that I had purchased substance painter in the Steam Edition version.

In the Steam Edition version, I was able to downgrade in this way. Thanks to this, I can use the past Shaders.

[ivory imp]

oh yeah this is pretty recent. DE gave us a new shader to use in the tennogen discord

this one should be good to go

[graceful saddle]

How to get this?

[past fable]

Thanks for sharing the new Shader!😀
It looks like I will be able to proceed successfully.
I have confirmed that it works fine with SubstancePainter2022 ver 8.2.0, although it doesn't seem to have been added to Tennogen's SteamWorkshop yet.

[rotund nova]

Hope they allow O/D apparel other than face stuff eventually

[hushed hound]

Yeah how about a whole outfit

Or hair we always need more hair

[onyx arch]

from Nightwave Challenge and this does appear from time and again.

[eager quail]

That doesn't mean you can ping staff members, please read the server rules.

[lyric abyss]

what they do?

[floral summit]

I'm trying to find the Sentient Slayer skin of Excalibur but I can't even find it in the market or arsenal. It is the same thing as the Corpra skin, Graxx skin, still for Excalibur. I checked on the Wiki and it says all 3 are available on PC and consoles. Is there any reason I can't see those skins? What should I do? I am on Switch, also.

[ivory radish]

Are Tennogen skins normally available on Switch?

[floral summit]

Yeah. There's a section about it in the market

[ivory radish]

Then I'll assume the contracts with TG artists weren't renewed to include their skins on Switch

[floral summit]

Is there anything I can do about it?

I just remembered something. I have seen the skin at the very start of Veilbreaker. But I don't really understand why it vanished inbetween

[nova goblet]

If I remember right the sentient slayer skin was among normal skins

[floral summit]

I checked the first hotfix of Veilbreaker and I found this

I’m now more than certain the Sentient Slayer skin is one of those skins they have no plans in making available for Switch

[ivory radish]

That explains why you've seen it just momentarily

[floral summit]

I guess I will have to wait to have cross save available, change to PC and get it

[signal wave]

Prime Riv Elite armor when?

[weak minnow]

coming along with Teshin Prime, soon

[uncut eagle]

YES

[past fable]

Thank you all for your frequent answers to my questions.

Now it is time to ask for your wisdom again.

In the Tutorial, it worked fine in the Tennogen Application even with the long and wide Texture applied.

However, my model does not work correctly when I apply a long and wide Texture.

I think the problem may be when exporting from Blender, but I have no idea what to do.

Also, Substance Painter does not produce a long and wide Texture that can be applied to the Alt helmet.

Also the Tint mask does not seem to be working correctly.

I have been trying to figure out what to do, but I can't seem to find a solution to these problems.

[celest nest]

you need to rebake it

make a new image in blender at 2048x1024 res, fit your uvs there, and then rebake the model to fit into new aspect ratio

[past fable]

Thank you very much.
So that means I can solve the problem about the UVs by setting the current A state to B state on Blender and 2048*1240 on substance painter!
I will try the TintMask again, faithful to the Tutorial.

[celest nest]

Yes, do it in blender and SP will automatically pick up on aspect ratio

It will stretch it as it needs, but the final output will be 2x1 regardless

[severe gorge]

I had some ideas

[jagged wigeon]

Stormbreaker hammer sounds nice

[ivory imp]

Tint mask won’t work since the 4th channel doesn’t seem to be packed into the alpha

[past fable]

Thanks to you, I was able to make it support 20481024.
Then, with substance painter, I was able to get a Texture of 20481024.

[past fable]

I get it, I will check around Alpha again regarding Tintmask.

[ivory imp]

should look something like this as the goal

[past fable]

I understand the goal. I'll try to find out myself, but so far I have no idea what it is, so I'll just upload the Setting for now. Please let me know if there is anything obviously wrong.

[ivory imp]

What export setting are you using?

[ivory imp]

Hmmm I’m stumped then 😭

[past fable]

Yes, it is. I'll explore some more things.

[past fable]

It seems that the Tintmask did not work correctly because I did not do these settings.
It worked, but I am still concerned about the dark metal parts, so I will explore this again.

[rotund nova]

Would love to see some "shifting" weapons similar to monster hunter lost code series. Thoughts?

[graceful saddle]

what doe the helmet look like?

[thick root]

Take a look at the showcase chat

[graceful saddle]

ok, take my MONEYYY

[celest nest]

Hard to say if possible. Animations are on DE and they can deny it

I.e we cannot animate weapons, we can ask De to do it and provide instructions but it's essentially unpaid work for them

[jagged wigeon]

It'd be funny to see a corpus themed Styanax skin considering the animation reveal

[rocky imp]

Working on a grineer equivalent to prova, the Batahn

With saturn six colours

And held by a grineer

[lyric zinc]

steek

[jagged wigeon]

"Shut up, I have the talking stick" famous last words an enemy hears

[rotund nova]

Bratan

[rocky imp]

Hmm.. Also a good name

I wonder which they would use language wise

[rotund nova]

pls name it Bratan

that would make me very happy

[nova goblet]

Do have to say it looks a bit big. More like a sword than machete which the prova is

[zenith flax]

That might sound like a grineer Braton tho

[past fable]

That's cool!　I would love to see it taken a look at implementing it in a game.

[past fable]

I reviewed Hydroxate's Tutorial and I was wondering if the application submitting the Tennogen would change the darkness of the metal?
Material was Imported from the Link in the video.

https://youtu.be/1FlEvFUp3Dk

Does it change the look of the metal in Substance Painter vs. where it is submitted? What was the condition of the work of the person who was actually selected?

[ivory imp]

don't use the tennogen tool as a way to view textures

usually it looks wonky

i think the only time the metal looks normal is if you're doing spec work flow but i can't recall 100%

[past fable]

I see that's your point.
So this phenomenon is not a serious flaw in the settings, but rather a specification of the Tennogen app.

[rocky imp]

It's a little smaller than gazal machete. Machetes tend to be quite large in warframe.

[rotund nova]

google Bratan

[rocky imp]

A volcano?

Oh Russian for brother in urban dictionary.

[rotund nova]

yes

[uneven hull]

brat bratan bratishka

[ivory radish]

why not mix of both, bratahn

[ivory radish]

generally speaking it's just slang

[rotund nova]

*brathahn

[celest nest]

Maybe the breekiest of sticks

However, is it the cheekiest, not sure

[severe gorge]

i get it

looking good--keep it up!

It's official, I am out of ideas

[rocky imp]

Thanks!

[uncut eagle]

Do you want suggestions, if so what kind? (Like skins or what?)

[severe gorge]

Melee skins ig

Thank you

[eager scarab]

so.. how do you obtain tennogen warframe skins?.. o.o

[rotund nova]

via the market?

do you play Warframe via Steam or did you get the launcher from the website?

[eager scarab]

but it's empty.. except weapons and helmets :<

the website, because steam wouldn't install it at all

[rotund nova]

then that's the problem

TennoGen on PC is directly related to the Steam store

you can't buy TennoGen when you don't have the Steam version of Warframe

[eager scarab]

ugh.. -.- guess i'm out of luck then .. steam only downloaded an empty file..

[rotund nova]

do you know why Steam did that?

it's worth trying to resolve

[eager scarab]

nope, it's the only gave i ever experienced download fails with, it was extremely difficult to get warframe to verify even as it is

[rotund nova]

that's strange

[eager scarab]

yeah.. it would do a blip with an empty file path and then just wouldn't download

can you log in with a regular warframe account in through steam at all?

[rotund nova]

sure

PC account is PC account

only matters when you're playing on a console

also I found this

[eager scarab]

okay.. i'm gonna try to redownload it via steam.. and see if it'll even work or throw that error again, perhaps i can share it

[rotund nova]

it specifically mentions TennoGen so it might be exactly what you need

it's worth a shot because missing out on TennoGen entirely sounds sad

[eager scarab]

see, this is what it does, it blips install, says play.. and when you press it.. you get

[rotund nova]

try to put your files in the directory Steam created

because all Steam really does is launch the launcher to play Warframe

and of course connect your acc with Steam to make purchases

[eager scarab]

thing is..

i tried to find the location but the folder is empty.. there is no /tools/launcher

[rotund nova]

the location Steam tells you?

[eager scarab]

yeah..

[rotund nova]

I think this is diverging a bit too much from TennoGen

[eager scarab]

and in snooping a bit more..

[rotund nova]

but I wanna say one last bit

[eager scarab]

is it really though?.. it's helping me get access to it xD

[rotund nova]

whatever folders Steam does create, just copy every Warframe related file you already have elsewhere into that directory, doesn't matter if certain folders don't exist

[eager scarab]

okay

we shall see what happens, i appreciate the help you've given thus far

[rotund nova]

just in case this entire conversation gets shut down and/or deleted because it's going on for too long

wouldn't even be really uncalled for tbh

[eager scarab]

eh, it just isn't working.. so i guess i'll just leave it be

[rotund nova]

this is exclusively a TennoGen channel after all and we're barely mentioning TennoGen 😬

[rotund nova]

poop, sorry then

[eager scarab]

more messing around and i got it to work, thank you ❤️

[rotund nova]

wait really?

that's awesome, mate

[eager scarab]

except i didn't get it to FULLY work in the sense it's making me download the game.. buuut i got it to at least recognize warframe, so that's sweet

[rotund nova]

progress is progess

[eager scarab]

now i can oogle all the beautiful work everyone's made 😄

[rotund nova]

is progress

[jagged wigeon]

Frog Ivara would be funny to see

[rotund nova]

isn't that already what she is?

[idle hearth]

what software do you suggest to use that's free? i tried some software a while ago on a trial but my model got corrupted or something when i took a break from the low pollying and lost my progress

[rotund nova]

Blender

dunno about Substance Painter for texturing but I think there's a way to get it for free too

[idle hearth]

it would be interesting to design a railjack or necramech, but it looks like thats for the designers

[graceful saddle]

When is the next tennogen round?

[jagged wigeon]

Soon TM

[celest nest]

I played through scorn and browsed through its art book. Time to adjust my style again

[jagged wigeon]

Aw yeah it's gonna be so sick whatever you come up with next

[rotund nova]

Just gonna sit on a corner till my shoulder gaurd idea comes alive atleast...

[jagged wigeon]

Moar froggy, like, I want a whole lilypad and webbed toes and such

[celest nest]

You gonna sit and wait for your idea to appear somehow?

[rotund nova]

No i just need to learn blender and thennnnnnn idk

[rotund nova]

uhh sure, that can probably be worked into her mesh somehow, could also make the lilypad the helmet

[jagged wigeon]

That'd be pretty cool to see, I really do hope someone's already put an idea like that to fruition

[idle hearth]

so blender is too jam packed and zbrush is too pricey, any suggestions for some free modeling software i could use?

[idle hearth]

nvm, i'm just going to create abunch of emails for zbrush trials

[gleaming vine]

i thought zbrush is more jampacked than blender

[celest nest]

Zbrush is super jam-packed but it's more specialized than blender, which is heneralist

I.e it's amazing for one stage of production but blender is pretty good for all stages

[drifting smelt]

Some one should make Stalker helmet

[rotund nova]

that's not how that works

[amber oyster]

And even if it was, we’d get a lot of hate for making another Excalibur helmet/skin

[nova goblet]

Would be easier for DE to just finally release it for all frames and be done with it. Considering Acolytes also use the Stalker helmet

[celest nest]

It already exists in files, DE just doesn't want to release it for one way or another

Making another one to imitate it would be pointless

[still rose]

Is any new work for Frost in progress?

[jagged wigeon]

Yeah but it's a bit slow

Just kidding idek

[rotund nova]

Is that a pun?

[jagged wigeon]

Yeah

[rotund nova]

I don't get it

[jagged wigeon]

Cold slows you down

[rotund nova]

Oh I thought there was more to it

[jagged wigeon]

Well that and sometimes it feels like forever to get something done but mostly just that

[rotund nova]

I just realised I accidentally made a meta joke by quoting Ordis

[jagged wigeon]

Lol we need Ordis files now

[idle hearth]

how would i go about removing the fins on styanaxs' head?

[jagged wigeon]

Depends on what you're trying to go for really

[rocky imp]

Working on grineer crewship themed armour

But it looks like a cute lil' bug when viewed from above or below haha

[idle hearth]

syndana too?

[rocky imp]

Likely

[idle hearth]

most likely gonna be the engine/eingines

[rocky imp]

I was thinking of it, yeah. With lots of spines

But it may be too many so we'll see

[idle hearth]

looking at some of the other ships, you could take the way the spikes on the galleon and just put an engine in the middle with the tail from the fighter ship for a syndana

[rocky imp]

Basically what I was thinking, yeah

Maybe something like the top of this would work also

With the fin shape

Lots of options

[idle hearth]

you could also incorporate the back engines of the tusk bolkor into the leg armor

oh, i was looking at an image of the bottom of the galleon

[rocky imp]

I'll free-form experiment and see what looks best

[idle hearth]

YES! i am making progress!...and now i'm stuck again. All part of the process

[idle hearth]

wanna know what sounds interesting? entrati themed skins

[amber oyster]

Yeah but unfortunately that’s just spooky Orokin

Wish we could do that though

[idle hearth]

even though staynax's helm doesn't have two pieces, it's okay aslong as i keep the number of polly and other things in the safe?

[amber oyster]

Oh yeah

My helmet is like 4 pieces

A bunch of helmets are made up of smaller meshes

And the poly count only applies to the low poly model

[rotund nova]

My helmets are like 20 parts each

[idle hearth]

hmm, i lost my progress

should have looked to see how i should add a new model before hand in zbrush

[celest nest]

When is my table getting delivered, goddamit. I cannot work in this state of suspended animation

[jagged wigeon]

Get this tenno a table now

[rocky imp]

Grineer crewship themed shoulder armour. I'd like to hear peoples opinions on it!

[uneven hull]

sick

are you going to make leg and chest too?

[rocky imp]

Most likely yes. Just trying to get opinions on this before going further.

Does it look grineer enough? Does it look fierce or cuddly?

[oblique shore]

Texture seem too clean for grineer imo

[rocky imp]

It doesn't have textures yet

[oblique shore]

Oh you meant the base mesh itself

[rocky imp]

Yeah

[oblique shore]

I can't unsee the cute bug ever since you mentioned it

[rocky imp]

That's what I'm worried about

[oblique shore]

They're hugging his arms

[rocky imp]

I'm wondering how much of the cute bug look is leftover from the original jokes or part of the design itself

[rocky imp]

It's annoying because I really love the design myself

And it kind of looking like a bug could either help or hinder it

[jagged wigeon]

If it had a more aggressive shape I think it'd pass but Grineer stuff is usually round and bulbous like contemporary art in the 70's

[rocky imp]

So is it too cute?

[idle hearth]

add textures, cant really tell without.

[rocky imp]

That's a lot of work, can't just add textures like that.

There's a lot of steps between this and that.

[idle hearth]

i'd have to say, looks like the top side fins could be expanded abit since the ships are buldgy

[thorn sphinx]

do the tennogen items that retire ever come back at any period?

[gleaming vine]

maybe removing one pair of the 'legs' and changing the 'eyes' will make it look less like a bug

[rotund nova]

Dang speaking of fierce and cuddly, would kill for Floof armor.

[lyric abyss]

im pretty sure tennogen doesnt get retired

[thorn sphinx]

Some of the tennogen syandanas are marked down right now and listed as will be retired soon in the description

[lyric abyss]

oh. thats new.

[gleaming vine]

are you referring to the ones listed with discounted price? that's a sale.

the deadline is just for the sales, not tennogen.

[rotund nova]

this?

like DeStreak said, that's only for the sale

they don't retire cosmetics from the game, that would make no sense at all

(not talking about certain exclusives tho. looking at you Excalibur Onyx skin)

[celest nest]

Yeah it's sale

Needs to be rewritten. Confuses players honestly

[rotund nova]

yup

anyone with a bigger vocabulary than me wanna come up with a better word than "retire" for this?

[eager scarab]

i have a question.. how come some tennogen skins have textureless heads? do they just function as body skins?.. trying to figure out why it's only doing this to skins for me since i been having pc issues.. hobbling this ol' thing along until my parts come to build a new one

it's not all skins that this happens to me with either, there are many that it doesn't but some do.. and i wish i knew how to fix it :/

[rotund nova]

that should absolutely not happen

can you tell us what TennoGen skins do that and which don't?

like which Limbo skin is that in the first picture?

[eager scarab]

i'd have to go through a ton, but i just wonder if it's something wrong with my steam installation lol

i'm gonna try a repair on it and see if it corrects it because warframe in general gave me such a headache to download/install on this old pc

[rotund nova]

do that

but if it doesn't work, can you post a screenshot like this so we know what you have equipped?

[eager scarab]

because i did find that the empress skin for my titania was a solid blob too and that's a first to see that on any skins.. and it only happens with the steam install of the game rather then my website download

yeah i'll do that

[rotund nova]

thank you

[eager scarab]

could just be typical file burps too, which is all i'm hoping for because a repair should fix it

i just see sooo many beautiful pieces of art i want to add to my collection in the tennogen market >> y'all make some amazing stuff

there is a siiiick revenant skin up for vote as well i saw on steam and it was like ahhhh

[rotund nova]

this one?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2773349110

[eager scarab]

no, but that one is beautiful as well

[rotund nova]

I don't see any other revenant skins

[eager scarab]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2304010571&searchtext= this one

it's just SO clean, crisp lines/meshwork and i really like how organic a feel it gives

[rotund nova]

oh that one

[eager scarab]

just has such nice curves and form, it's just a very very appealing mesh piece .. kinda makes me wish it was on second life LMAO.. i do skin work there for people from time to time and it's like 'i wanna texture this'

[rotund nova]

Youkai skins (or rather all skins by Hitsu San) are epic

yah I think that one's a bit out of question, hasn't received any updates since which means it's not gonna get accepted for next round unless it gets revised

[eager scarab]

aww danggggg that's heartbreaking, it's gorgeous work

[oblique shore]

Hope they show next round on the devstream

[celest nest]

I am deathly afraid of next round

I got nothing finalized

[oblique shore]

They probably already picked some ig

[celest nest]

No, they don't pick anything before deadline ends

I still got time to finish my works

[oblique shore]

Oh, get to work then 👀

[ivory imp]

oh vulb you'll be fine

you always get some masterpiece out in time

[idle hearth]

oh, the trial has decreased from 30 days to 14 for zbrush. just noticed it now

[celest nest]

I think you can get zbrush core for free if you intend on using in to learn

[idle hearth]

i could to learn, but i can't use it for tennogen.

i'm trying to learn as i go

[drifting smelt]

you should make stalker helmet

[tardy condor]

Hey guys someone know how many umbra mods exist in warframe

[rotund nova]

Like 5

iirc 3 warframe mods and two melee mods

[tardy condor]

👍🏼 thx for the info

[idle hearth]

each piece makes atleast $10k, am i right?

[celest nest]

Not necessarily, depends on how popular it is. If it's amazing in quality and really popular, it can easily surpass that amount many times. If it's kinda mediocre, you can be lucky that it covers it's own expense

[radiant lodge]

Please keep discussion not related to Tennogen in the #gameplay-discussion channel. Thank you

[onyx arch]

wait, the next tennogen round has been announced?

[ivory imp]

no

[celest nest]

No, which gives me hope

[onyx arch]

ah, ok

[idle hearth]

i like where i'm going with syanax

crap, his head is small

[celest nest]

Show?

[idle hearth]

suggestions?

[celest nest]

I'd split it into parts to make it easier to work on, and continue polishing. It's a bit early to add anything else.

[idle hearth]

umm, i dunno how to split it into parts. but i shal learn

[idle hearth]

i feel like i'm forgetting something...something important

saving, thats it

[idle hearth]

wait, polishing? what does that do?

oh, neat

[idle hearth]

sizing of the head is good though?

[rotund nova]

Polishing as in refining your work

[brisk echo]

Anybody have recommendations for someone wanting to get into 3D-Modeling/TennoGen creation? I have a ton of ideas, but I don’t know what application to use or anything.

[idle hearth]

blender is supposed to be the popular choice for beginners

but i find all the settings and buttons overwhelming, i tried using software recommended by someone that made a youtube tutorial called hydroxate

i'm still learning in the process but hopefully it can help you get started too

[celest nest]

Head is reasonably decently sized, there's no problems with it's size or shape.

[brisk echo]

@celest nest aren't you the graphical walrus guy, the one that makes a lot of the infested skins?

[celest nest]

POlishing is refining shapes. You're right now in rough blockout stage, when you're satisfied with the general shape, you should work on medium and then small shapes. While you do not have any small shapes or detailing, I'd also recommend zremeshing and working in subdivs, for more flexible and easy to change workflow

[celest nest]

I might be

I'm not sure, haven't looked at myself in mirror yet today

[brisk echo]

lol

[idle hearth]

i learned how to split it, but it's not a shape but masks

[celest nest]

Masks will do. You could also split via polygroups.

Eeeeh, give me a second I have...

[idle hearth]

that's what i did

[celest nest]

M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNnOkllXqag

[idle hearth]

mask then split

[celest nest]

You could use mask extraction for panels, or you could cut your models and do polygroup split

[brisk echo]

How much would I have to pay you to teach me the way of TennoGen... I hate all the confusing YT tutorials lol

[celest nest]

Zero australian bananers

[brisk echo]

hmmm

[celest nest]

I know, it's a tall price

[brisk echo]

do you accept mangos?

[celest nest]

Never tried

Not sure if my bank has mango recepticles

[brisk echo]

I suppose bananers will suffice then

[celest nest]

Generally speaking I do not mind being asked absolutely anything, unless I'm busy or abscent, in which case I won't deny request, I will simply not answer due to... you know. Not being here

[brisk echo]

I just need to get the basics down tbh, I have a TON of ideas for skins

[celest nest]

BHP and BP are your best friends btw

[idle hearth]

the tutorial buy hydroxate is pretty straight through, it goes through the process but some modeling things you have to learn, like splitting

[celest nest]

When doing hard surface. Brush>Hard>Polish

[brisk echo]

the first things I want to make are Kuva and Sentient skins for Nezha

prob a bow skin too

I feel like there aren't enough bow skins

[celest nest]

There's also an excellent set of brushes specifically made for hard surface models, pretty easy, not many, and well done

I'm not sure we can skin bows

[idle hearth]

bhp? bp? um..

[celest nest]

Those are shortcuts. Half the Zbrush is based on shortcuts

B will open your brushes menu. Later letters are first syllibles of your brushes

[brisk echo]

should I use ZBrush or Blender?

[celest nest]

For example BMV, I think, will do Brushes> MoVe brush

[celest nest]

Blender is free, Zbrush is expensive. It's pretty straight forward what you should start with if you donot know how to model yet

[idle hearth]

zbrush isn't free but you can use trials where blander is free

blander? yes blander

*blender

[celest nest]

Blender is also an all-encompassing software, while Zbrush is heavily specialised in only one direction - sculpting, and extremely heavy high poly making

Zbrush ain't free. Luv my brushes, luv me remesher, 'ate UI, simple as. SculptrisPro? Ever eard of.

[idle hearth]

sculptris i have but it says it's discontinued

[brisk echo]

why does it start with a ball

[celest nest]

A good idea would be to try and complete a small, full pipeline game-ready model to understand how it works

[brisk echo]

can I import the helmet model?

[celest nest]

Of course you can. Ball is a general default shape. You can use Append or Import features and import FBX or OBJ files into your system

[brisk echo]

oooh ok sick

[celest nest]

Append ... appends items you already imported, while import loads them into project

[idle hearth]

you cannot by it's self, but it's good to have the full body so you know what size it needs to be

[brisk echo]

I was wondering, how can I make sure I stay within the requirements? There was like a triangle limit or something iirc

[celest nest]

Yes that's a good idea btw. Always import full body while working on helmets so you don't just make a thing that looks fine in isolation, but wack when it's connected to something

Polygbudget is only applicable for output, to model you send to DE. On high poly creation stage your only limit is "how much I can load my system without violently detonated my power supply"

[idle hearth]

there is, but if you are starting in zbrush it doesn't matter cause you will low polly it in another program

[celest nest]

While you're making high poly - it will be dirty, it will have holes in it, it might have non manifold geometry and even few glitches. It is fine, as long as it bakes good textures and your low poly (game ready mesh) are fine.

You can make low poly (retopologize) in Zbrush. You should not retopologise in Zbrush. You will become very sad retopologising in Zbrush.

[idle hearth]

i only got part way through the low polly process with my last helmet model

i took a break and some how lost all my progress

[celest nest]

Blender has acceptable retopo pipeline.

[brisk echo]

ok this is what I have now

[celest nest]

Of course nothing beats something like Retopoflow or 3Dcoat

That's just default model. You can import it into Zbrush or work in Blender sculpting tab

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmi0KoFtc-4

FLippedNormals are excellent teachers

[idle hearth]

here is my last model i sadly lost

[celest nest]

It's ok

You gonna lose a thousand more in the future

It's a good idea to set up quicksave for Zbrush btw, have it periodically save snapshts somewhere

If file got corrupted, it's also possible to recover models

Even tho you might lose for example environment or textures, models themselves are hard to lose.

[idle hearth]

really? maybe i still have it saved?

[celest nest]

It's really likely you do

Hm

You should look through autosave folder and lightbox folders

[idle hearth]

oh i mean drive or something. my brother took over my laptop and then factory reset it

[celest nest]

It might not be .zpr, btw, it might be eeeh .ztlI think

Oh

Well, I cannot fix brothers, sorry. Only 3D.

Unless your model was on another drive than OS

[eager scarab]

touching base again, i had to basically fix the -entire- game but the verification actually fixed the problem to which i am extremely relieved by, thanks a lot for being so receptive and willing to look into any possible issues with missing textures. I appreciate it.

[rotund nova]

You're welcome buddy

[idle hearth]

aww, google doesn't have it in either of my 3 accounts

[idle hearth]

hmm, this doesn't look clean cut. also, how do i extend?

[amber oyster]

Dynamesh really helps with stuff like this when you’re modelling out your basic shapes

Mess with it a bit see what works

[celest nest]

You could A. Zremesh to produce clean topology, also run checkmesh and run close holes, that's pretty dirty topology. B. Dynamesh the thing at low resolution.

And don't smooth the edges before you remesh, this is what gave you these jagged corrupted edges

[rotund nova]

wtf

[iron field]

@rich ginkgo

[rotund nova]

how about you don't post memes here

shut it

[rich ginkgo]

C'mon

[rotund nova]

it's not TennoGen

[rich ginkgo]

There's plenty of other discords for it

[rotund nova]

like bruh

[rich ginkgo]

Just take it somewhere else, this isn't it

[burnt wraith]

its also in all the community channels

[iron field]

Oh wow

[rotund nova]

aight

prolly time to swing the ban hammer if that's really what you're working towards

[celest nest]

What did I miss, did I miss something interesting

[placid condor]

Someone was spamming random tiktoks in the community channels

[celest nest]

Tiktok is the worst invention of humanity.

[rotund nova]

yup, it just arrived in the other TG channel

[idle hearth]

well actually thats from masking and cutting

[celest nest]

I would avoid cutting with masks actually

[idle hearth]

ok

[rotund nova]

hi

[wraith tinsel]

Partially true

[idle hearth]

i'd like to use shapes, but for some reason it's difficult to center it/make it even

[celest nest]

Could you show what you're trying to do?

Maybe I could help

[idle hearth]

it's just getting the imported shapes to center with the current model

i was thinking that i could reshape a sphere to better detail the "face"

i already saved after cutting part of the front off so i figured i could just replace it

[celest nest]

What's the problem?

It's not appending it at the center of the model?

[idle hearth]

it does, it's just not as smooth to keep it centered on the axis that i want

like there isn't an axis slider

[celest nest]

It's not... smoth?

I roughly imagine what you mean, try turning local symmetry on

[idle hearth]

well, i have to eyeball it. there are corners around a gyro and it moves where i drag it

[celest nest]

You lost me

But you can move the gyro independently by pressing alt

[idle hearth]

wait, did i try symmetry?

yep

oh, better term! there's no center guide

center lock?

[celest nest]

You're working on styanax right

[idle hearth]

yep

[celest nest]

He is asymmetrical, right

[idle hearth]

if looking from the side

from the front hes symmetrical

[celest nest]

So your problem is that appended sphere is generated off-axis?

[idle hearth]

it is

then i get to center it to the center of the model

i then try to move it up a slight bit

then from the front view it's asymmetrical from the rest of the model

[celest nest]

So basically your gizmo, that you're using to move your oshere, is either off-axis or inclined incorectly

Try holding alt, zero gizmo position and angle, release alt, go into geometry > modify topology > mirror and weld

[idle hearth]

maybe i can show you through screen share

[celest nest]

That will ensure there's no odd angles and model is 100% symmmetrical

You could post a screnshot. I'm in bed

[idle hearth]

oh

oh, no

no

i'm sorry, should have looked at a guide. me brain not working today

[celest nest]

Sounds like progress

[idle hearth]

i dunno why i didn't think of using the arrow

i thought i did

[celest nest]

Ooooooh

You were moving sphere around just by dragging ENTIRE thing up

[idle hearth]

hmm, new prob

the gyro center doesn't stay in the center of the sphere when i'm moving

i think i need to watch more of the guide

[idle hearth]

you should move the whole sphere, not stretch it! that's for scale!

[idle hearth]

finnaly! more progress!

[idle hearth]

i want to add detail, but after looking at styanax's other helmets. my brain stopped

uhoh, i lost my model

where in void workbox of zbrush is my model

oh, there's a button for that

[gleaming vine]

i know that experience

[celest nest]

Zbrush is very unfriendly to newbies, I strongly suggest running through Michael Pavlovichs introductory course.

[jagged wigeon]

Hockey mask helmet for lavos would be pretty funny although not very ideal

[spiral oxide]

yall saw the xaku tennogen yet ?

finally someone made a xaku tennogen and it looks so cool

idk how to send steam worksop links

[ivory radish]

you copy it from the address bar or right click background and "Copy page URL"

[spiral oxide]

oh ok

[rotund nova]

Hi

[spiral oxide]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2877135903
this

the helm, dope
the skeletal head, dope
the arm, dope
the skin as a whole, dope

[hushed fulcrum]

Ooo

I luv it

[spiral oxide]

the arm material resembles the arca plasmor personally

[jagged wigeon]

Duuude please DE let that be in the upcoming tennogen rounds

[idle hearth]

it might be too late, but should i stray away from the "eye" design and do something different?

[jagged wigeon]

Are you recreating that last one that you lost, or is this a new design?

[idle hearth]

new, the one above

the styanax

the one i lost was a volt helm

[jagged wigeon]

Ah I see now, well what faction/theme will this helmet be following?

[idle hearth]

hmm, gladiator theme? not really a faction but inspired by

[jagged wigeon]

Ooh ok, maybe keep the eye thing going with like a visor that stretches from end to end

I'm thinking like a mix between the classic gladiator helmet with its holes (maybe replace with emissions in divits) and Judge Dredd

[idle hearth]

looking back at my brainstorm sketches, much has changed

i was originally going to have the teeth hang from a vizor but i gave up trying to have them lay flat nicely and just merged them with the cheeks

welp, i'm already drawing a concept for a revenant skin

[celest nest]

Revenant can be very complex to model for

[jagged wigeon]

Oh nice, can't wait to see how it turns out

[celest nest]

I'd suggest starting with something very simple and leading it to completion, otherwise you'll trap yourself in a hole of starting dozens of projects and never finishing any because they all are too complex

[idle hearth]

im just drawing for now. i may have others that i started drawing but the image never fully came out

[rotund nova]

can we please get a new gauss skin

[jagged wigeon]

Mebbe

[rotund nova]

i have both graxx and agito

[spiral oxide]

I think agito gauss is the best tennogen gauss has

That and I can make a rider reference with it

[velvet sable]

holy moly someone actually did it

[spiral oxide]

ikr

[stiff shard]

Tennogen Zaku… tennogen Zaku is real!

[velvet sable]

CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER

nah but fr i was expecting an alt helm first not a whole skin lol this is great

[spiral oxide]

the helm is really good even when the armor is stripped from the 4

[rotund nova]

ye i like that one

[jagged wigeon]

Imagine someone just drops a tennogen skin for Caliban or Yareli now

Even crazier if one for Gyre

[manic mauve]

<@&958425280203079760> hi all! in case you missed the announcement on the Devstream, here is an outline of the changes to our review process moving forward: https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1329260-tennogen-program-changes-bye-bye-deadlines/

wrong place @open jungle 🙂

[open jungle]

sorry I clicked the ping and ctrl+v out of exitement

[austere orbit]

new tennogen skin?

[bleak quartz]

I was so tempted to make a joke just then but nows not the time nor place to do so

[rocky imp]

@manic mauve Sorry for the ping, but I've got a small question. If an item has been updated, is it better to make a whole new upload as V2 or just update the old submission?

[wraith tinsel]

How’s life Taylor?

[rocky imp]

I had an item I uploaded in september that got a significant update in october, not sure if I should make it into a new submission or not if a review happened late september

[manic mauve]

@rocky imp i'll add you can we can see if that item's been reviewed already 🙂 if not, i'll get scooped in the next review

[pseudo torrent]

TBH.. I kinda wanna get into making TennoGen Stuff. But not sure how good I'd be. Lol

[rocky imp]

Fantastic, thank you!

[violet canopy]

Thanks!

[rotund nova]

does this mean new cosmetics ? lacking on armor only have piercing eye

[spiral oxide]

since xaku dx is coming wish the xaku tennogen would come next cause its good too

[idle hearth]

hmm, i see. revenant does have many parts. and my design i would like to make needs some tweaking since we cant edit the mesh of the body

[quiet anchor]

Amazing news, thank you.

[dreamy elbow]

Yo how to get pathocyst parts

[jagged wigeon]

By going to the #players-helping-players channel

[spiral oxide]

Who's hyped for xaku tennogen

[spiral oxide]

tennogen not deluxe

[rotund nova]

This one?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2877135903

[woven warren]

That one is very nice

[spiral oxide]

Yes

[jagged wigeon]

I'm hyped for both

[rocky imp]

WIP Crewship shoulders

[jagged wigeon]

I like, no longer the big bug hug

[heady ore]

looks like 2 slugs climbing on your shoulders

[celest nest]

Slug nation

[rocky imp]

Heck yeah

[wanton dome]

I'm hyped as long as it's not Wisp

[lyric abyss]

yes. i agree.

[hexed walrus]

when will another skin be made for hildryn? ♡

[spiral oxide]

Same

[pearl nova]

TBH this almost looks like it could work as Infested, as well. A bit more grotesqe detailing and we'd be onto something else that's equally good.

[ivory radish]

that's a whole different theme though, not something that "a bit detailing" can influence

[spiral oxide]

Yeah it's not a bit
It's a whole week/month

[rocky imp]

Making an infested version if these get accepted would be pretty cool tbh

[pearl nova]

Well, a lot more grotesqe. The general shape is there, though, the 'oh no there be slugs' joke could be expanded on.

As someone with no experience whatsoever, I'm just kinda... Voicing thoughts?

In any case though these look nice.

[rocky imp]

Thanks!

[limpid summit]

Cuddly bug

[eager quail]

This channel is for the discussion of Tennogen content, several off-topic posts were removed.

[rotund nova]

Who made the nidus tennocyst tennogen?

[jagged wigeon]

Probably someone sick

[unkempt pecan]

I gotta ask, is leg armour coming anytime soon? I wanna make a kirby grendel but i need big old shoes

[mortal seal]

Sounds like a nice design

[rotund nova]

It very well could be

Idk I haven't been online in a hot minute

[jagged wigeon]

I wonder if a bee or other insect looking helmet would fit Caliban or another frame somehow

[zenith flax]

Maybe Titania, too

[lyric abyss]

ash has lots of bug heads

[jagged wigeon]

Yeah but his look a tad bit wrong somehow

[severe gorge]

grendel tick helmet

[jagged wigeon]

His default kinda already looks that way so I doubt we'll be seeing that in tennogen

[spiral oxide]

idk garuda ig
her dx already looks like a stickbug

[severe gorge]

I'm waiting for void angel to be an approved faction

[gleaming vine]

a faction with one member lel

[ivory radish]

I think it's more in a sense of theme, like
i.e. grineer, corpus, sentients, and more recently solaris and ostrons

[jagged wigeon]

I always thought Solaris would be solar light themed, then I realized the irony in its name

[spiral oxide]

what irony

[gleaming vine]

solaris ppl live underground

[misty cipher]

Well wouldn't you if you lived in a really cold place and had the tech to move underground?

[rocky imp]

Warframe Crewship inspired shoulders are done. Just need a suitable name.

[nova goblet]

How about Gok? Derived from the Gokstad crewship.

[rocky imp]

Oh that could work!

[rocky imp]

I decided to look into the Gokstad name

Turns out lots of grineer stuff uses viking/norse words (sometimes slightly altered)

So I'm going to name it Drengr

[jagged wigeon]

What's that mean? Would be funny if it meant slug

[pearl nova]

I mean, it works. Dudes cram themselves into metal bawkses and fire themselves into an enemy ship for the angriest of breaching actions with the only thing between them and vacuum being a few meters of solid steel and a breaching charge. Anyone willing to do that is a bit of a BAMF.

[hushed hound]

Now all I need is a grineer railjack skin

[terse snow]

We'd also need a Corpus and Prime version - heck, having them as actual alt ships with different ship interiors would be a sweet twist, with different amounts of turrets (like two on either side slaved to gunners, a second shield hardpoint, but significantly slower turn radius and movement speed, with strafe being as useful as trying to strafe with a space car).

[hushed hound]

I agree

[terse snow]

I'd admit that a lot of the stuff made by you people deserves to be their own weaponry and not just skins.

[nova goblet]

Sadly only way that ever happens is when it’s a contest and there’s not many that make it in, even ones that were supposed to for being in top 3

Also it’s been ages since the last one

[vocal tide]

omg i was just spamming these ideas in relay chat 4 hours before baro came didnt know there were a bunch of people with this idea as everyone in general and relay chat didnt seem very interested in the idea

[nova goblet]

I’m all in for faction themed stuff, we sure could use more decorations for orbiter like that. Wait a sec… Faction themed skins for “New War spoiler”

[rotund nova]

We actually need a faction version of basically everything

Railjack, weapon types, that kinda stuff

I dream of a Grineer and Corpus arm cannon since we can't make those possible with TennoGen

it's kinda like how every faction got its own bow

Tenno and Infested even having more than one

so Corpus, Infested and Sentient landing craft when?

[nova goblet]

Here’s an idea Grineer and Corpus Necramechs

Corpus landing craft is very likely given the condor used in New War, just like the Bolkor was which we now have as the Skaut

[rotund nova]

we probably gotta need one for Tenno too although I can't imagine what that would look like, for Grineer and Corpus I can somewhat see what they could look like

we technically already have an infested Necramech skin even if it's partly Orokin

[nova goblet]

Yup

[vocal tide]

bro i would litterally sell my railjack to grineer for one of their cruise ships and id hire a grineer crew granted buying it directly from the grineer would be unlikely but mabey from steel meridian

[nova goblet]

We need more crew models and variations

[vocal tide]

steel meridian is the only faction that dont have crew members for purchase that i know of at any rate

[nova goblet]

Obviously opposite gender for existing factions, solaris crew. And maybe some grineer and corpus styled crew through Steel Meridian and Perrin Sequence

[nova goblet]

Yeah they do, all 6 are present

[vocal tide]

im kinda addicted to the grineer fashion. i havnt seen any XD ive seen arbiters red veil suda loka but no others

[nova goblet]

List swaps out daily

[vocal tide]

bet ima be looking then then ima have to let go of some folks

[rotund nova]

this is what Steel Meridian crew members look like

[vocal tide]

oh

[rotund nova]

not very Grineer like tho

[vocal tide]

i thought those were loka XD

[rotund nova]

you can also easily confuse them for Perrin Sequence just by colour

also yeah, Loka is close too

[vocal tide]

red is what you would expect unlike the rest they all look kinda generic

[nova goblet]

Meanwhile me with around 30 crew

[rotund nova]

Hexis and Suda are also very easy to spot

that Hexis head gear is just way too recognizable

[vocal tide]

i got 3 crew at any given time i like railjack but the lack of customization kinda makes it boring paints and a handful of skin arent really that interesting for me now if i could decorate it and add consoles even purely for cosmetic appearances it would be 10 times better

honestly default railjack skin looks more grineer like if you paint it right best we get for now

[nova goblet]

Would also love to see the grineer workers from the grineer shipyards as crew

[vocal tide]

that would be nice fr

[native mirage]

Man, hopefully soon we get Xaku Tennogen

[gleaming vine]

maybe a bit later cuz e have xaku deluxe on the way

[nova goblet]

I did see someone working on a Xaku Tennogen so 1 is a possibility

Also Deluxe skins are not related to Tennogen, Deluxe are made by DE while Tennogen is made by community

[rotund nova]

Yesn't

A TennoGen skin can be made for a Warframe regardless of whether it's about to get a deluxe or not but DE is still involved in getting the skins into the game so that everything works as intended.

However those two processes are still entirely separated and do not interfere with each other at all.

[rotund nova]

Speaking on what I have heard from many of the other artists, Xaku's deluxe is so good and the default mesh is so scuffed that many people are not interested in making a skin

Never say never though

[native mirage]

Ive actually always dreamed of Xaku Prime being a combination of the Orokin and Void Angels

[nova goblet]

It will probably be the same as the regular, a mix and match of different frame parts, only that it will be prime parts. Simple compared couple other frames on their back-story.

[celest nest]

Xaku mesh sucks and I'm never touching it.

[lyric abyss]

if i ask nicely would you touch it?

[rotund nova]

no

[celest nest]

no

[lyric abyss]

😢

[celest nest]

It's ok

[vocal tide]

there are a few frames that could use some more skins in game rhino has had no new skins added in forever among countless other frames i know skins are entered into the game based on a community vote but some should be added simply due to the lack of skins available whereas some frames have too many skins to count on one hand

[rotund nova]

but Rhino already has a big amount of skins

also TennoGen doesn't get added based on community votes

don't know who told you that but it's entirely DE's decision what makes it in and what doesn't

[vocal tide]

i always figured that’s how it worked

[rotund nova]

well it doesn't

the votes in the workshop are entirely "cosmetic" for lack of a better word

[vocal tide]

makes sense

[rotund nova]

however I do agree that even if a large amount of skins are available for one Warframe DE should make sure that one round isn't like half the skins for one Warframe

like how people complained when we got like 3 Wisp skins in one round

[vocal tide]

it should be that each frame gets a skin per tenogen round put in skins for frames that weren’t in the last round and so on switch it up a bit

[rotund nova]

that's entirely up to the TennoGen creators and DE has no control over what Warframes people make skins for

[vocal tide]

well i know that but most frames have skins what i’m saying is if de decides what skins go in they should add a skin for a couple different frames per round not multiple skins for one frame

there’s plenty to choose from in the workshop

[rotund nova]

you can express your wish for a more diverse array of skins but it's ultimately up to the creators and often also what frames are currently popular

no one's gonna make a skin for a warframe Just because that frame has no skin yet/hasn't had a new skin in a while when there's no inspiration

[vocal tide]

ok that’s true as well revenant seems pretty popular lately so i’m pretty sure he’s gonna have a skin under consideration

[rotund nova]

I will be doing rhino eventually, he is on my list

[ivory radish]

the votes are just an indicator of popularity, not a deciding factor

[rotund nova]

I aim do each of the starter frames, rhino, loki, caliban, and protea

I don't play the other warframes enough to be personally interested

[rotund nova]

This will obviously take a while though

wait

sorry I'm stupid

I confused starter frames with the original 8 frames

[jagged wigeon]

Lol same

[rotund nova]

Why

armour better

We gonna make armor too

we got enough sentient syandanas for now, pls keep your focus on armour

No

I could ask you the same actually

[golden hinge]

Please excalibur mithra

[rotund nova]

I'd like to clarify that I'm jesting here, the sentient buddy as a syandana is a really cool idea

[rocky imp]

Impaktor fists

[rotund nova]

is that a fist weapon?

I thought you were making a strange syandana matching your shoulder armour

[rocky imp]

Yeah, it's a redo of my last fist idea

[rotund nova]

huh

this design makes so much more sense as a fist weapon than it does as a syandana 😬

[rocky imp]

PUNCH THE GROUND TO BULLET JUMP

Impact jetpack

[leaden pine]

That sentient Syandana that was just posted looks really good!

[lapis thunder]

Grineer Potato Masher.
🔨

[rotund nova]

meat tenderizer more like

to tenderize your face!

[wanton dome]

Honestly I'd kill for more Corpra skins. Or at least an update to Rhino and Frost Graxx, they got shafted.

[vocal tide]

i kinda wanna see more grineer themed stuff like skins for frames 🥰

[wanton dome]

We have so much Grineer stuff it's not funny though.

[rotund nova]

it's easier to translate already organic designs into Grineer or Sentient than it is to Corpus

the crewman suit trick only really works with simpler frames like we see with Excalibur, Mag and Nova

[nova goblet]

There can never be enough grineer stuff

[rotund nova]

the rest of the original frames could work well in that regard but the recent frames are just too different to translate well unless you're a TennoGenius

[vocal tide]

rhino vauben grindle can pull of the grineer look very easily

[jagged wigeon]

Big boy Ghoul Grendel for grineer probably

[vocal tide]

if that was a skin i would have to grind for grendel

[severe gorge]

So my school gave all students access to a bundle of adobe products

and i was thinking i wonder if substance painter was part of that

nope, it wasnt

blender is fun tho

[jagged wigeon]

Nice

[idle hearth]

i got stuck

i have the main form, i just need the details

[rotund nova]

Not graxx, but I got u

I will do rhino at some point

Iirc, frelling hazmot and faven are both done with tennogen

So, no more corpra or graxx skins

[wanton dome]

Looking forward to it. Also, shame to hear about hazmot and faven

[rotund nova]

Shame

[jagged wigeon]

In that case I'd welcome any artist's work that can be just as unique as what those two have given for tennogen skins

[uncut eagle]

Wow

That was quick

[rocky imp]

Impaktor fists, not finalized but enough to show off 👀

[neon ruin]

By any off the wall chance would/does anyone know if and or how to summit tennogen cosmetic ideas?

[ivory radish]

submit ideas?

[rocky imp]

Ideas aren't really a thing, but if you can 3D model and texture then there's a tennogen guide available that's quite helpful. After that, you use a special tennogen tool on steam to upload what you have made.

[nova goblet]

Aside of that the only other thing that comes to mind would be working with someone on it. There is a few items that were made by 2 people

[rocky imp]

I put my new fists and my crewship shoulders on the excal graxx by Faven skin to see how it would look.

[uneven hull]

it looks cool

[jagged wigeon]

Grineer hulkbuster fists look sick

[ashen peak]

I wish Trinity had more skins she needs some love she only has four skins (not including immortal skin)

i would find it interesting to see a Graxx Protea and Trinity Skin

[amber oyster]

Might have a trinity in the near future

[hexed dragon]

I plan to start making tennogen skins but are the requirements?

Like paying to make it?

[gleaming vine]

no, it is free to create

see #tennogen-resources for detail on requirements

[ashen peak]

I've been playing Warframe since 2013 and I love using trinity, I just wish she had more skins and wish she could get some love as she has been around for a long time, i do hope Trinity could get a new deluxe skin to make her look more angelic like a goddess of healing and blessings

[celest nest]

Best I can do is turn her into a literal lobster.

[ashen peak]

Oh god not a meme skin >.<"

[celest nest]

I work with infested, trinity has lobster tail, sounds like a marriage made in heaven. Three fiddy and I'm on case.

[ashen peak]

an infested trinity? hmm

what about an infected Lavos?

[celest nest]

Not a lobster

[ashen peak]

but think about it Lavos has all these tubes you could go pretty crazy with the infected design on him

[celest nest]

Yes, I could

But lobster he ain't. Alas.

[ashen peak]

could make it look like an experiment went wrong as lavos

has anyone thought of turning Trinity into a Samurai?

[candid inlet]

[ashen peak]

just asking because she is covered in armor wouldn't be a stretch on a Samurai skin for her

people have done that on Ivara

[hexed dragon]

Ok