builds-discussion

[opal leaf]

Yeah the synergy won't synergize then XDDD

[crimson cedar]

who use persistence on archwing content ? amesha have 2 invulnerabilty

[versed harbor]

discharge is best with armor strip but its still rly weak cuz its discharge

[crimson cedar]

blud have 2k armor ( ~87% RD ), 3k (~91%RD), guardian is really useless here

[opal leaf]

It's usually the subsume slot

[west radish]

+300%

yeah we got whole room covered

[opal leaf]

Is this a copium moment?

I feel like it is...

[west radish]

no fr 260% from mods 36% or smth from arcane

[hexed lodge]

it's jank, pure jank... and I love it

[west radish]

bro is mirage stealing my energy orbs

or am i trippin

i swear to god i looked at he energy orb and it dissapeared

[quiet laurel]

Its slow traveling sparks that also need LoS

[west radish]

los is the worst enemy

[quiet laurel]

Like at some point you cant make discharge work anymore

[west radish]

i just want it to kill eximuses bro xd

[quiet laurel]

Which it wont

Unless you get a str or range invig

[west radish]

they aint beliving in us

[versed harbor]

discharge is like eso nuke at max

[cinder burrow]

What should i use as a primary in this loadout? Honestly i’m doing everything with nukor at the moment but i’d like a primary too

[west radish]

thats what i want it to do

[west radish]

latron

[hexed lodge]

Do you need utility or more damage?

[cinder burrow]

More damage probably since with nukor i do status damage to nuke group of enemies ,i need something single target probably?

[crimson cedar]

Argonak(amalgam metal auger) & Rakta dagger MI, for a AOE armor strip if necessary

(and shield refill, emergency case)

[old marsh]

Felarx

[hexed lodge]

Ok yea Latron, Felarx, Sybaris etc many options, prob best to use weapons with MultCO for singletargets

or melee like Stropha, Corufell and Ack&Brunt (incarnon)

[cinder burrow]

I’ll go prbably with felarx i like that weapon, where can i get a good “nuke” build for it?

[crimson cedar]

pls stop using " nuke " for anything does good damages 😭

[opal leaf]

Damn there is a lot of Nukers these

[hexed lodge]

my tenno
you can't come asking for "single-target" suggestions and then ask for a nuke build

[cinder burrow]

Sorry, i need something that do BIG poopoo damage

[crimson cedar]

Staltha primary acuity

[hexed lodge]

you already have it, it's called Dante

[crimson cedar]

on charged shots, you can hit reverse cap damage with

[cinder burrow]

Sorry i need a single target i was wrong

Saying nuke i mean to say big single target damage

[opal leaf]

That's not what a Nuke means

[cinder burrow]

Yeah that’s why i daid i was wrong

Said*

[opal leaf]

Dawg what's with the arrows... 🤣 🤣 🤣

[cinder burrow]

Then now, where can i get a good single target dmg build for felarx?

[prime scarab]

Just run it as a standard crit rifle and you're fine

Same setup any other crit rifle runs is gonna be fine

[hexed lodge]

Good ol' reliable Ninjase

[cinder burrow]

Ok thanks guys

And sorry for the misunderstanding

[prisma briar]

I might utilize this image myself when I have to

[rich glacier]

don't worry you can try megumin nuking with follie :)

[prime scarab]

megumin?

[rich glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/megumin-explosion-nice-pic-for-profile-gif-13366421262293691006

it is funfollie's barrel does 65% of enemy max hp

[opal leaf]

EKUSUPLOSION!!!

[rich glacier]

imagine 65% acid shells without the conditional

[near vortex]

Crit Felarx 🥀

[rich glacier]

that's follie. and of course you add tempest barrage to go beyond 100%

[prime scarab]

BARREL BARREL BARREL BARREL BARREL

[prime scarab]

Yeah. Crit is better.

[rich glacier]

1 viral stack takes you to 130% enemy max hp aoe

[prime scarab]

Or am I thinking of Phenmor

[prime scarab]

I'm an arc trap user myself

[rich glacier]

oh and indivifual per enemy unlike sobek where you need to be wary of who you shoot

[prime scarab]

I run airburst to ragdoll enemies and the mine at the same time. Melts groups at level cap without even trying.

[rich glacier]

arc is fun too. I have megumin shadowgraph for barrel

[near vortex]

I think you're thinking of Laetum

[rich glacier]

the laser orb does 18% i think 6% of 3 ticks per lazer

[near vortex]

Felarx definitely does not go crit

[prime scarab]

I might be thinking of Phenmor then

[prime scarab]

Whichever one has the laetum passive

[old marsh]

also dont

[rich glacier]

sanik for golden instinct with the kid running

[old marsh]

all of them have the same passive

[fervent rapids]

All Cavalero's non-melee Incarnon Weapons have the same perks

[old marsh]

+2000% dmg when non crit 50% of the time

[prime scarab]

Right so the crit version is better on the ones with good fire rate because attenuation

[near vortex]

I think the only one people use is crit Laetum

[prime scarab]

I've moved on from laetum too these days tbh

Finally got my furis incarnon set up and I can't go back

Thing charges absurdly fast and has a very satisfying incarnon ammo pool

[rich glacier]

everything is fun until you spend like 200h on that build/weapon

[prime scarab]

I wanna pick up the coda bubonico next. It looks interesting.

[rich glacier]

do coda synapse after that. it has 20% hs multiplier.

innate corrosive too

[prime scarab]

Synapse was suggested earlier as a thematic option for my nyx.

You're the second one to bring it up.

Hows it handle acolytes?

[rich glacier]

I'll dm with my vid

[prime scarab]

Thats really all I need my primary for on nyx, is acos

[rich glacier]

no need to elaborate.

[night stream]

Hey I've got a question I had an idea for a build for my Tenet Tetra that is Electric and blast. I'm wondering if anyone has a suggestion on how to make it

[crimson cedar]

you mean, innate elec and modding for blast ?

[night stream]

Mine is Innate Fire, Working it Into a blast electric build

I'm just looking for suggestions and advice for mods and Arcane

To help give me an general idea

[hexed lodge]

Depends if you're modding for the alt-fire or the standard shots

[night stream]

Mainly standard firing alt I just use if crowded.

[crimson cedar]

use an elemental vice to change innate element btw, it helps

if you have Heat innate damage, you have to put heat+cold + elec dmg to have blast/elec

[night stream]

Yeah

[hexed lodge]

Then you're looking for a somewhat hybrid status+crit build, which i'm not sure if you can pull off with a blast+elec build and innate heat
Definitely get the vice then

[night stream]

Okay

Well I have a max Galvanised scope, chamber, and aptitude and I have a fire and ice plus stat chance

Suggestion for an arcane to use please

[west radish]

swap velocity for augmented when using firerate bond mod?

[sterile tiger]

What's a build I can use for my Fire Kuva Hek?

[last wing]

Any recommendations for a rhino build? (general use)

[violet silo]

crux or debilitate for coda bubo

[old marsh]

u can remove vitality and redirection. add all the strength mods u have. if no more then try to get corrupted mods

[old marsh]

both tbh. i like crux for DPS. deb for priming

[violet silo]

is debilitate better for an alt fire focused build?

dps, not priming

[fresh haven]

what's the kavat claw mod that gives 60% heat dmg and 60% status chance ?

[slender summit]

Would Baza Prime take a similar Viral/Heat build like Burston Prime?

[fresh haven]

when in doubt, always run viral heat yeah

[slender summit]

Splendid

[fervent rapids]

Go to Codex, go to the Mods tab, the Beast tab, search "Heat"

[fresh haven]

felt more interesting directly asking people

[hexed lodge]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Flame_Gland

[fresh haven]

thanks 🔥

yeah I'm uuuh

i'm gonna buy it

[wet scroll]

should i get chroma/wisp first or nova

[deep grotto]

I mean
Chroma requires the parts of multiple framess unless it’s his prime

You going for prime or base?

For all of em?

[wet scroll]

prime

[deep grotto]

Then it depends on who you think is more interesting

[wet scroll]

i only get the base for helminth

[tardy lily]

Does anyone know how Ability Damage (say from Topaz or Violet archon shards) interacts with Xata's Whisper?

[wet scroll]

nova to speedrun defence missions

[deep grotto]

Chroma’s the credit farmer who can do team support and weapon platforming, for one

[wet scroll]

chroma/wisp for credit farming

[deep grotto]

Valid

Probably Nova first then, eh?

[wet scroll]

Normally I would have chosen nova cuz cheaper but look at this

I can’t even craft parts without grinding for a bit of credits

[wary forge]

I don’t think it does anything I’m p sure just strength affects it

[tardy lily]

gotcha, that's what I was wondering, ty

[wet scroll]

Can’t even upgrade mods

[fierce lark]

xata (and pretty much all weapon buffs) are coded as weapon damage rather than ability damage

they don't get any benefit from "x ability damage on y status" shards

[mossy osprey]

Hello

Is there Anyone who has recommendation for kuva sobek build

[mighty flare]

for someone specific?

[mossy osprey]

Like viral build sobek

[dire merlin]

anyone got a good lex incarnon build ?

[polar knoll]

i use this build for my saryn/oraxia

[mossy osprey]

Dayum primed ravage

The 3 mods are hard to get ig

[mossy osprey]

Is saryn prime worth it to grind

Because I was thinking about it cuz of synergy

[fierce lark]

if you want a broken weapons platform then yes

[versed harbor]

ye shes like a top 5 frame

and sobek needs a frame like her to wipe maps

[polar knoll]

had her since 2018 and she still carry me to this day

[violet silo]

there are a few of em

i’d put her tied with cyte for best

[normal vessel]

It's always funny to see people talk about the best frame

[quiet laurel]

cyte def best sobek abuser

[normal vessel]

No two discussions come to the same conclusion

[quiet laurel]

then saryn, then oraxia

[quiet laurel]

once you get into specifics you can actually determine the best frame

[versed harbor]

yeah thats why I worded it like that

[green gyro]

why wisp?

[normal vessel]

Best frame for a specific weapon to shine? Yeah, maybe.
Best overall? Lol, that's like asking "What's the most fun playstyle?" xD

[slender summit]

Would all melee weapons have the same/similar builds?

[quiet laurel]

overall you cant determine the best for anything

[normal vessel]

Depends on what you want I think

[green gyro]

useful comms

[green gyro]

no, not all.

the vast majority of them are just generic espam influence tho, yes

[slender summit]

Would Silva and Aegis and Harmony be one of those?

[green gyro]

no

especially not harmony

[fierce lark]

harmony gets to be unique, it's one of a handful of weapons that actually wants status duration

"unique" in that it slots lasting sting into the generic m3 spam build xd

[drowsy herald]

Cyte is ok I just hate stealth based frames so I made him a shield tanker

[fierce lark]

https://klipy.com/gifs/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-1--k01KS8AS2FPMWSE6RRXE76WQZ2W

[old marsh]

Harmony needs Acrid Augment stat

such a cool but "niche" augment is wasted on a garbage ass weapon

[fierce lark]

hey some of my friends like acrid

(in risk of rain 2)

[slender summit]

Does anyone have a splendid build for Kuva Brakk?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/pussy-cat-cute-kitty-kitten-cat-gif-16800925

[slender summit]

Do me a favour and send it if you could?

[old marsh]

ye. logging in

[slender summit]

Jolly good

[slender summit]

This is marvellous. Stupendous, even.

[old marsh]

u can also go for corrosive heat setup. just replace frostbite with primed convulsion

[fierce lark]

kuva brrrap

[wet scroll]

great buffer

runs with chroma to make the grinding easier

[old marsh]

i would recommend swapping out gal shot for Pistol elementalist. not sure why i had it in there. and also would recommend using fortifier instead of flare. its additive dmg

[slender summit]

Cool, thanks

[fierce lark]

🤔

shot should do a lot more damage than cannonade

[old marsh]

how much more r we talking? also gotta factor in PT

and the negative fire rate

[fierce lark]

it's avging 7 status effects per shot and it only takes 3 different ones for shot to beat cannonade

[wet scroll]

cannonade mods are good cuz you can use them with mods that decrease fire rate and it will add alot of dmg and revert the fire rate to normal

like critical delay

[fierce lark]

im rbond pilled, if my setup involves shooting guns i already have perma +60% fire rate

[wet scroll]

if that then it is an L

i think you only use cannonade if you have -fire rate

[fierce lark]

i find all versions of cannonade to be incredibly niche tbh

locking fire rate is usually very bad for dps

[wet scroll]

it gives a ton of dmg tbh

[slender summit]

Oh. So do Orokin Vaults have a specific location orrr...?

[wet scroll]

but it is totally useless if you are using something like gauss or uriel

[old marsh]

hmm. 21 MS X 0.33 status is how u r calc 7 status. and on 3rd shot u get more than cannonade. fair point. i guess its a better option for harder targets.

[fierce lark]

orokin derelict tileset on deimos

[hexed lodge]

in the tileset? nope, but iirc, you can ping them with Air Support and/or Golden Instinct

[fierce lark]

so pretty much any deimos starchart mission that isn't cambion drift/entrati labs

[slender summit]

I know what they are. I'm asking if they have a specific area where they spawn if they're random

[fierce lark]

oh you mean within the tileset

no it's randomly generated

[slender summit]

I don't have the ship for that, but what is Golden Instinct?

[green gyro]

what?

[hexed lodge]

Helminth's unique r10 ability, not sure if you have it but wanted to throw that out there just in case

[wet scroll]

profit taker ?

grinding for credits ?

[slender summit]

yeah my ass does not have that

[west radish]

how dumb is merciles gunfight on ocucor?

[wet scroll]

chroma ?

doesn't that ring any bells ?

[wary forge]

Profit taker with chroma is the best way to get credits yes

You just have to have sub 4 minute runs

[west radish]

so much investment tho

[hexed lodge]

I'm pretty sure they are asking why bring Wisp along a Chroma for PF farm...
Which, shouldn't it be Volt instead?

[quiet laurel]

confusing part was wisp tho

[west radish]

theres so much shit you need for pt

may as well do techrot safe xd

[wary forge]

Yeah

Think they meant support or something

[wet scroll]

correct me if i am wrong doesn't wisp buff dmg ?

[wary forge]

Wisp is a good support ig if u wanna duo pt or something

[fierce lark]

cannonade mods give 36-45% more base damage than their non-semi counterpart (which is always additive with dh/merc and usually additive with galv), and locking your fire rate is usually very detrimental for overall dps, especially on weapons with an already slow rof

brakk has good base rof, but brakk also has extremely high status output and galv shot is simply better than cannonade in terms of base dmg

if you wanted a pt option, cannonade is probably better than seeker or gunfight assuming no external rof

[old marsh]

so i am getting 4 status on average by the 5th shot, we can get upto 480% dmg on 6th shot. (i am using cannonade here so gal shot will be even slower to get to that hp mark at first) so i think gal shot will be better for EDA/ETA lvl enemies that take more shots to kill

[quiet laurel]

doesnt duo go chroma volt

[wet scroll]

and what does volt has to do with any thing does he speed up chroma's turrent

[fierce lark]

galv shot is 120% per status not 80

[wary forge]

I’ve never duoed pt idk I would imagine wisp is ok ig

[quiet laurel]

chromas turret?

[hexed lodge]

Buffs fire rate, but not damage alone. A single Volt shield should be enough tho

[old marsh]

i know. 4x40x3 is 480

[fierce lark]

but also only 4 statuses in 5 shots is kinda wild, ik it's high heat weighting but that seems unlucky

oh icwym

[quiet laurel]

volt is used for speed, shock trooper and the shield

[old marsh]

had worse where enemy died before 4th one got applied

[quiet laurel]

wisp would just be there for the speed and a dmg buffing subsume

[wet scroll]

my brain ...

[old marsh]

but rarely got a 5th status lol

[fierce lark]

gshot is still better after 3, and dropping it also loses 80% sc

[wet scroll]

hmm

[wary forge]

Ye

[fierce lark]

but idk if you wanted something with pt and you don't want to use blast/elec nade seems fine

i wouldn't remove gshot for cannonade though

[old marsh]

true. SC is also one thing thats in its favor. as i said, GShot is better for higher lvl content. but for base SP, cannonade would be more comfy. higher upfront dmg

[fierce lark]

simply run both

[old marsh]

PT is important

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/nathan-fillion-uhm-but-wait-gif-9301334

[wet scroll]

a friend of mine told me to bring chroma or wisp for 2-3 mins profit taker grinding

[old marsh]

but pistol elementalist

multiplicative

[fierce lark]

if you're killing enemies within the first 5 shots anyways then elementalist isn't doing anything lul

[wet scroll]

i don't really know how it works 🙂

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[fierce lark]

more or less why i stopped running heat on weapons

[slender summit]

dawg I just want to use my Bitt Audd Kuva Brakk

[hexed lodge]

that's an okay suggestion, js that if you want a more optimal (duo) farm, then run Chroma + Volt

[wet scroll]

👍

i love volt so that would be something good to grind for

[wary forge]

Volt is the fastest chroma is still pretty fast but he doubles creds

[fierce lark]

@slender summit jus copy this and if you have external fire rate sources you can swap out cannonade for merciless gunfight or smth

[wet scroll]

alr bruh

[wet scroll]

isn't volt a bit harder tho

[wary forge]

Google profit taker speed run on YouTube

[wet scroll]

since he is a bit of a glass cannon

[red moat]

whats a good subsume for caster garuda?

[wary forge]

Ur not gonna die if u just have ur shield on

[quiet laurel]

nourish

[hexed lodge]

harder to use yes, but performs better
just gotta learn good shield placement

[wet scroll]

i can get back shots

[slender summit]

I do have Merciless Gunfight..

[wet scroll]

alr

[quiet laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1150797852029767781/1377195640785866902/9vafta.gif

[wary forge]

You just have ur shield up and then spam 2 to active gate

Ig

[wet scroll]

not those

https://tenor.com/view/islam-astaghfirullah-haram-gif-22586634

[old marsh]

magazine gonna get empty much faster with this

[wary forge]

endryx_ow does all the pt videos on yt

Goes over builds how to do it all that stuff

Just watch his videos

[fierce lark]

yeah the only reason im even thinking about cannonade is bc lt is gonna make you play reload sim

the only other weps i have that i run cannonade on atm are latron & strun

[old marsh]

latron i get

lemme check strun

[fierce lark]

strun because savvy doesn't work on incarnon and it shoots fast enough as is

same reason as latron

[old marsh]

ye. i got it too lol

[old marsh]

also why not savvy? (i havent used Strun Inc in over a year)

[fierce lark]

incarnon is pure aoe

[old marsh]

bomb balls?

[fierce lark]

if you're playing hybrid/incarnoff savvy is good

bomb balls

[wary forge]

Fr helps with strun trash clear but ye it’s worse for single target then cannonade

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[fierce lark]

i lied it's only 66% aoe

[old marsh]

viral heat or blast elec?

[fierce lark]

viral elec

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[west radish]

to get corro on dtox i need to slot elec first?

[old marsh]

suggestion for last mod slot?

[west radish]

riven

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-catstare-cat-stare-sus-catglare-cat-glare-gif-14942558849944709546

[novel bear]

Faction or elementalist

[fierce lark]

ye

[west radish]

good to know

[solemn oxide]

Thinking of using Vadarya Prime with Gyre Prime. Any suggestions for builds?

[fierce lark]

that's a riven

the left one isn't even slottable lol

[west radish]

oh its a riven i always called them purple mods

it pisses me off how you have to zoom in on this gun

can you like disable fov change when zooming

[fierce lark]

faction/ele

[west radish]

or do i have to roll -zoom in this bih xD

[old marsh]

does elementalist even help with the bomb balls dmg?

[fierce lark]

it wouldn't be zooming if your fov didn't change lol

[velvet pulsar]

Incarnon form has much more limited zoom

[west radish]

yeah but i can barfely see cus of that

[fierce lark]

a ton yeah, they have innate 50% slash weighting, you're running primed charged shell and with status evo you have over 400% status chance per projectile

[west radish]

so -zoom on a riven then

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[green gyro]

yes I have 16k pt runs, wisp is like the 4th frame you'd pick

volt>chroma>mirage>wisp

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-jesus-christ-kids-gif-12765867

[wary forge]

Tuff

[old marsh]

16k runs. my mind melted after 16

[green gyro]

I like pt

[novel bear]

Volt over chroma?

[wary forge]

Volt is the fastest

[novel bear]

More than twice as fast as chroma though?

[wary forge]

If u don’t care about credits then would do volt

I mean lowkey it’s almost twice as fast

[velvet pulsar]

Don't forget squad speed boosting

[tired eagle]

Anyone got a good build for an Acceltra

[wet scroll]

alr bruh

[wet scroll]

how does volt even work

[velvet pulsar]

Quickly.

[wet scroll]

the meechanics

with chroma you just throw the turret and it does the work for you

[quiet laurel]

what turret are you talking about 😭

[fierce lark]

uhhhh

[velvet pulsar]

Do u just get carried by squads?

And when they kill it, u deploy the 4?

[gleaming vapor]

that’s also incredibly slow

usually you just like shoot the thing

[fierce lark]

you don't know about effigy nuke????

[gleaming vapor]

with your gun

[fierce lark]

https://klipy.com/gifs/operation-teapot-nuke--k01KS8EH5FHKXSC66CP8FK3J7VF

[gleaming vapor]

cyte might genuinely be faster than using effigy to break shields

[stoic wagon]

any secondaries that irradiate works well on? trying tenet detron atm and it unfortunately aint doing much

[gleaming vapor]

ocucor without saryn is pretty good with irradiate

tho saryn ocucor is just better

[green gyro]

huh??

[fierce lark]

in order to make irradiate work without very heavy levels of radiation priming from your frame or companion, you have to make the weapon weak enough to where it consistently is hitting 10 stacks of radiation on an enemy without killing them, and then is still able to continue shooting them afterwards to radiate the damage to nearby enemies

and enemies don't typically all group together in a small circle like you'll see them do in simulacrum, so the payoff in actual gameplay isn't as good as it looks

[gleaming vapor]

tbf, ocucor stacks rad pretty fast

and it’s not that strong without saryn

[green gyro]

what does this even mean dude

what are we saying😭 😭 😭

[fierce lark]

i think ocucor saryn is a special case for irradiate because irradiate also spreads lash

[wet scroll]

man i've never tried bro

[green gyro]

ocucor irradiate is stupid cause it chains to everything on the screen already

ok so why are you talking about it

[wet scroll]

matter of fact i've never built chroma i thought it was a mastery fodder and fed em to the helminth

another fact i am not even rank 5 in fortuna

[green gyro]

this server is truly special istg

[gleaming vapor]

real

[wet scroll]

cuz idk what to get first

[fierce lark]

back to wfcd for mr hampter

[green gyro]

yup

[finite tusk]

Guys, I have a question:

I have a weapon (any weapon) with Galvanized Aptitude. I get 40% more damage for each different status in the enemy when I kill it for 20 seconds. Let's say I prime the enemy with my secondary for Gas/Rad/Mag (3 status), so if I just kill the enemy I'll get 120% bonus.

If my main weapon (that has galvanized aptitude) puts +1 stack of puncture, if I primed it first I'll +160% bonus.

From my tests, I noticed that the time for expiration of the Galvanized Aptitude bonus will always be "reset" when I kill an enemy. So, in theory I'll never need to prime the enemy again to get those 120% from the secondary correct?

[fierce lark]

where you can answer a new poe question every 15 minutes xd

[gleaming vapor]

gapt is 80%

[polar knoll]

thinking about warframe builds make my head hurt 😩

[finite tusk]

uh

[gleaming vapor]

it’s not that hard gng

[finite tusk]

yeah, it is limited, mb

Got really dumb for a moment here

[near vortex]

Nyx gaming

[fierce lark]

you don't get the bonus for yourself, you get it against the enemy per status it has

it's not "i killed an enemy with 3 statuses so i gained 240% damage", it's "i do 240% more damage to an enemy if it has 3 statuses"

that's how it looked like you were understanding it mb if not

[finite tusk]

tbh I forgot the 2x limit on the mod

so I'll always get only +80%

[gleaming vapor]

per status

[hexed lodge]

...this is bait, right?

[wet scroll]

tbh

a lil bit yh but i am trying not to

i swear trying my best not to rage bait you guys

cuz you guys are trying to help me 😭 😭

and didn't call me dump yet

[hexed lodge]

eh nw... just gonna save this as a sc cause this is peak
#builds-discussion message

[west radish]

dont know about peak but funny

[finite tusk]

I think I got it, so if I attack an enemy with 5 status effects, and I have a +80, I'll have +400% on him

but if he has only the puncture from the weapon it will be just +80%?

[gleaming vapor]

yeah

[finite tusk]

I see, so I'll need to be changing weapons constantly if I want to optimize the damage, or use lavos or primary debilitate (if I don't want to change weapons)

[fierce lark]

if you want to optimize galv savvy/aptitude/shot damage, use a sentinel with a tazicor equipped

swapping to primers or using a shitty arcane is to prime things ahead of time is just going to result in you spending more time on each enemy

most weapons can apply at least 4 statuses already when they're modded anyway

[finite tusk]

Kinda, i'm trying to build something around gotva that I can use with any frame so it only applies 3 status with my current build, I do have my secondary that applies 3 different ones, but changing the weapons is a pain to do

[west radish]

just pressing f

[finite tusk]

Yeah, i'll give part of the status stacking for the companion, tested here and it goes way stronger

[west radish]

diriga

is your best friend here

[fierce lark]

3 statuses is fine, that's still +240% plus whatever your companion is doing

gotva in general isn't very good so it's not gonna look amazing but normal viral heat setup with hammer shot or a magnetic mod instead of crit delay is probably the best you'll get

[hexed lodge]

tbh, you could go for a Gotva Viral+heat build and you'd consistently get +3 status
but could also swing the other way and use the merciless/deadhead arcanes instead and will perform just as good

[novel bear]

Hounds better
Diriga is too range limited, good for melee, not as good for guns

[fierce lark]

hounds >= tazicor > idk probably panzer/pred > diriga

diriga sucks for gun priming

requires enemies be basically in melee range

[west radish]

i keep forgeting im a melee slave

[fierce lark]

it's op for melee priming

[leaden spindle]

what popular guns use mod shred prime?

[novel bear]

Most

[fierce lark]

all of them

[novel bear]

Punchthrough too op

[fierce lark]

nearly every rifle in the game uses it

[west radish]

melee influence + diriga

[novel bear]

And reinforced bond is common, so vile accel is barely a boost over shred

[hexed lodge]

rifles and heavy machine guns generally, you can filter them in your arsenal while picking a gun to see what we mean

[fierce lark]

vile accel is used over it when the weapon can't benefit from pt

think torid, acceltra, some bows

[novel bear]

Sporothrix

[finite tusk]

what about verglas?

[west radish]

verglas

[fierce lark]

verglas (prime) is for when you want your companion to do the killing

[west radish]

too strong

[hexed lodge]

single-target priming or contagious bond builds

[fierce lark]

dieofsanity has the ancient chinese secret of sentinel dualwield

[novel bear]

I confused verglas with nautilus

[finite tusk]

Kinda what i'm going to do them

although I'll left a pure cold on it so I can freeze nearly everything around

with shivering contagion

[fierce lark]

cold buns

[finite tusk]

ngl? a sentinel with two weapons would be fun to have lol

[old marsh]

Twin Vulklok

[fierce lark]

idk im married to stahlta now

[west radish]

hey

stupid question
lets say i have galv mod on primary but i kill with secondary will it work for the galv priamry stacks?

i know very stupid question

[deep grotto]

I don’t think so?

[west radish]

but it just says on kill doesnt specify if with that weapon

[wet scroll]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1502441769965453382/1507453388059578449/image.png?ex=6a11f4de&is=6a10a35e&hm=b3d4590442b9fcf14539e872d28c705a88fa57e3b83786455a489b161ec83c6a&

[deep grotto]

Time to farm

[west radish]

okay becasue like i need a primary weapon to kill levelcap acolytes

but if i need to farm galv stacks before that

its tedious

[wet scroll]

no shit

[deep grotto]

I mean you’d be better off doing that using a weapon with gunco
Besides you only gotta kill like two guys

Get a single target primary for your oneshotting

[fierce lark]

no

every galvanized mod has its own unique buff with the same name

"galvanized shot" will not give you stacks of "galvanized aptitude"

[west radish]

what i meant is

whatever

that i meant

okaly

wiki as awlays saving

[west radish]

any recomendations?

[deep grotto]

Well if you don’t want to rely on ramp up buffs (which you’ll have to anyway)
You’ll have to get those semi auto guns that are meant to do a lotta damage on one target
Or just get sybaris inc

[fierce lark]

if you want a primary that kills acolytes without stacks just run stackless acuity burston lol

or stackless acuity anything tbf

[outer valley]

hello does anyone have good magistar + equinox build?

[faint hatch]

So Koumei's 1...that's interesting,,,

[supple sage]

-# out of the blue, sorry...
I know it would be busted in certain scenarios, but I'd love a "mod-family" like the sami-auto mods, that mostly just said "Prevents to combination of elemental damage"... or maybe as an arcane...
aka... you put that on the weapon and 2 mods, electricity and toxin... normally that would create corrosive damage, but with that it would keep them split into single type elements.

[hexed lodge]

the casual Airburst mention

[hexed lodge]

1estel1 has literally a video on that combo, builds are at the end

[faint hatch]

I'm gonna try that too, but I managed to pull this off

[hexed lodge]

it's a triple six, you don't even need ragdoll atp

but still ye ragdoll + koumei's = good

[faint hatch]

lol i didnt even notice since it happens regardless

[marble marten]

Robot pigeon

[outer valley]

k ill check

[fierce lark]

opinions? im leaning right but no neg really sucks lmao

[simple frost]

what do i put in the last slot

maybe umbral intensify?

or something for duration

[fierce lark]

primed continuity prob?

[simple frost]

i only have continuity

[fierce lark]

get archon continuity from chipper

[simple frost]

are my arcanes okay?

[fierce lark]

blessing is probably overkill on hp

[simple frost]

my archon shards are two armor one casting and one duration

[fierce lark]

could do molt aug instead

[simple frost]

WOWW

primed continuity

is actually insane cuz im running caster

and it makes toxin also deal corrosive

and my 4 does toxin

[old marsh]

Left and stop

[fierce lark]

ye, its not really relevant cause 4 already fully strips but it's a thing

[simple frost]

btw ff pfp

[fierce lark]

it's moreso that archon cont gives the same dur as primed

[simple frost]

peak

[fierce lark]

if you add p/acont and replace blessing with augmented you just have the ninjase build

[simple frost]

do you know how i can farm endo?

[fierce lark]

bis is to learn arena farming

[simple frost]

i have molt augmented on level 4

[fierce lark]

requires coordinated groups

[simple frost]

my friend gave me

[fierce lark]

beyond coordinated arena and coordinated arbis, best solo method is prob 1999 bounties

[simple frost]

damn

i need to get around 70k endo

to max my primed flow and archon continuity

[fierce lark]

get them to rank 8 and leave them there for the time being

[fierce lark]

ffs

[simple frost]

what aura mod do you recommend

[fierce lark]

im trying to get out of a heat roll so i can use it on gyre lmao

[simple frost]

i have stand united right now

but i dont need it anymore

[fierce lark]

stand united

[simple frost]

cuz i got the cooler blue shard and used it for armor

and i heard that over 700 armor is useless

[fierce lark]

it is, SU should save a shard to use on something else like more str

alternatively growing power/corrosive projection

[simple frost]

these are my shards

i can buy some from botb

what do you recommend

[fierce lark]

id just use the 1 armor shard with stand united & 1 cast speed, rest strength

[simple frost]

okay

thanks :)

so i just extract the red and change it for strenght?

[fierce lark]

yeah, grendel doesn't care that much about duration

[simple frost]

im actually going to remove them all anyways

so i can place them by color because it pisses me off

[rich glacier]

I finally found the peak cyte09 grakata build. After months of trial and error. Nourish and 2 orb eff shards. corrosive with bane mods and clem09 melts

for normal missions remove 1 bane for magnetic capacity or whatever your riven lacks

[novel bear]

Feel like you can probably get rid of one of the base damage sources
Deadhead for crux or spectral for whatever

[fierce lark]

dual bane is cooking

[novel bear]

Cascade I guess

[west radish]

which one better for trash sell fast price

[novel bear]

Right

[west radish]

okay boss

i will be back stay online xD

[next tendon]

how to pennant

[fierce lark]

hebi

[half hound]

anyone got a Harmony Build I can run? I dont mind using bane mods either.

[half hound]

tysm

[novel bear]

Harmony works really well with forced proc buffs too
Saryn or lavos

[fierce lark]

sac steel is marginally better than galv if you have any external cc whatsoever, including tbond

might include organ shatter tbh

galv steel is always better if you have WA

[next tendon]

pennant better as heavy build or normal?

[novel bear]

Normal with tennokai

[fierce lark]

i feel like pennat is better with a tennokai build

[next tendon]

ok thx

[fierce lark]

light attacks benefit infinitely more off the stacking passive

[novel bear]

And you can stack more, since duration is higher

[fierce lark]

that would be a funny weapon to run animosity on

to frontload more power into getting kills with heavies

i guess we're galving it

[solar reef]

stahlta mentioned

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-dunk-lebron-james-levronjame-gif-1038771198631298897

[fierce lark]

lebron stahlta

[sterile tiger]

Build for my Tenet Cycron. Is it good? Is there anything I should change?

[fresh hollow]

is coda bassocyst 26% cold worth getting?

[dark harbor]

coda bassocyst is the goat

[west radish]

which of the current aya relics are best ROI

[dark harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-leaf-vibes-vibing-sleeping-cat-gif-17297041570420202318

[novel bear]

Idk

There’s a tool for that someone made though

[wary forge]

all of them are very good

[novel bear]

Try wfinfo

[mighty flare]

no your build is fine, would recommend adding some buffs like

• more crit from yareli/avenger
• using arcane precision to slot secondary fortifier over flare
• with external fire rate you can slot pistol elementalist/bane/whatever over lethal torrent too

[sterile tiger]

I unfortunately don't have Yareli or enough copies of Secondary Fortifier to get it past unranked

[west radish]

so there isnt like the best one long term?

[wary forge]

well neo r1 and meso ig are the best but like all of them are good for 2b2r

[novel bear]

Start running botb

[west radish]

remember breach surge?

basically its

too incosistent

tempest barrage maybe instead?

or dagath subsume

[quiet storm]

Thoughts on light attack dps praedos? Melee Influence for the arcane

[grand pawn]

A or B

[half hound]

Thoughts?

[rich glacier]

b and replave gladiator with elementalist. there is a galvanized version.

[versed harbor]

this is good but shocking touch is plenty of elec (would replace voltaic with smite or attack speed)

[grand pawn]

Weeping Wounds is Not enough?

[brittle sleet]

You want the status damage multiplier more than the status chance boost

[latent adder]

Are u using rauta

To upkeep combo

[grand pawn]

i don't use Heavy attack

[latent adder]

Isnt this contagion

How are u going to build combo

[grand pawn]

With Normal attacks

[latent adder]

Unless u use on voruna, the status chance is gonna be low

[latent adder]

Oh thats... not contagion then

[grand pawn]

But I jump in and use air strikes

[latent adder]

Oh if you're using on kullervo then he can generate combo too so its fine

Galvanized mods will be an upgrade still tho

You would also get alot more dmg if u built a different zaw tbh

[grand pawn]

this is my first Zaw

[latent adder]

Eg rabvee or dokrahm do 4x more dmg once u get them

[fallow island]

What is the chroma build for credit runs?

Rubico build for PT and Eidolons?

[simple frost]

Xaku with persistence, s2 augment and umbra set? Thoughts?

Probably will need a few blue shards but everyone have like a billion of them laying around anyway

[gleaming vapor]

rubico isnt used for pt or eidolons

[elfin sluice]

literally anything that has decent parkour velocity & energy management. i keep a tauforged parkour shard on the lad and call it a day with that - it's orokin eye and control that matters more down there. if you want to speedrun the legacyte, vigorous swap can go on chroma for contagion's sake, ideally cold(SP) or toxin(NM) for elemental ward & either nourish as an energy-damage hybrid buff or infested mobility for minmaxing speed.

[gleaming vapor]

are we talking about pt or 1999 safes

because those builds are completely different

[elfin sluice]

1999 in my case

[gleaming vapor]

tho ig you could use a pt build in 1999

[elfin sluice]

ability duration also does your teammates a favor in 1999 for keeping the effigy at the vault for them

so narrow-minded is advised for that

[prime scarab]

Between the coda primaries is there a standout against damage attenuation targets like acolytes?

I'm building Coda Synapse now but are there any others good in that situation?

[gleaming vapor]

hema

[prime scarab]

Wait really

[gleaming vapor]

assuming we got like stacks and shit

[prime scarab]

Oh no, just like

Point and kill

Gonna slap it on my nyx

[gleaming vapor]

ah stackless

honestly just use burston (acuity)

thats prolly your best bet

[elfin sluice]

bubonico. it does the priming for itself

[prime scarab]

Yeah, I actually have burston on her right now but I'm thinking about moving to a coda weapon for the aesthetic

Bubonico does look sick...

[elfin sluice]

it's an infested mega man arm cannon

[gleaming vapor]

yeah ig synapse

[fallow island]

Imma take a break. Already got a migraine.

[prime scarab]

Synapse 20% dmg on headshots plus weakspot crit on aura should make short work of acolytes, yeah

[gleaming vapor]

@latent adder do you have any acolyte calcs for stackless ST?

[latent adder]

Nope

[gleaming vapor]

fair

[prime scarab]

Sporothrix any good in single target? It has such a good look to it

[elfin sluice]

it's a single-target weapon that wants to be aoe. yeah, it's good

[prime scarab]

I might get that one forma'd up and test it alongside the synapse. They both have the kinda vibe I'm looking for on Eleanor.

I run Furis for everything else right now so just need something to acolyte with.

[gleaming vapor]

iirc synapse stackless is better

[prime scarab]

Yeah that would make sense. Seems to have a lot of stacking dmg modifiers if you build it right

[gleaming vapor]

eh furis for trash clear isnt the best option

mainly because of its short range

[prime scarab]

The best? No.

But kamehameha

Is there a tenet glaxion I can put in the secondary slot btw?

Like a splitting beam gun?

[gleaming vapor]

nukors a chaining beam ig

tho you could go for dtox incarnon

keeps the infested vibe while being much better at trash clear

[prime scarab]

I have dtox crafting right now in anticipation of grabbing the incarnon on sunday, I completely forgot about that

Okay yeah, that'll be fun. Should actually be good with acolytes too with some fire rate on it

Means I can be weird with the primary instead of purely effective

[spice willow]

how good is ax-52 vs efv-jupiter on harrow, cyte, and jade (without biotic rounds bc its expensive)

[prime scarab]

Say I really enjoy Nyx's psychic bolts. Specifically that I toss them, they seek out a target, and then when that target dies they seek out another target.

Is there a frame that can do this but with damage? Like I toss out seeking damage orbs?

I guess Nova

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[fierce lark]

i checked in underframe after just to make sure i didn't screw up and ye the left one was better

ended up slotting gscope just to get above 100% crit

[novel bear]

There’s no way gscope is worth it
Surely primed shred or faction is better

[fierce lark]

faction i will never run because the time spent switching configs won't make up the ttk difference outside of deep endurance

and even then idk, it does no dot damage

and most of my frames run roar (i should switch to xata's anyway)

plus i have rbond, and stahlta has innate pt, so shred loses a lot of value

non-noticeable ttk difference between the three

vs a 225 heavy eximus

[fast marsh]

Anyone have a good build for the Syam

[fierce lark]

with caveats

bane gets better the longer it lives, gets better with xata's and gets worse with roar

scope has to be stacked, and will randomly be 4/5 sometimes because of how it works

pshred increases fire rate which also increases the amount of time spent reloading, increasing pt from 1.2 to 3.4 will probably rarely make a difference, if it didn't have pt already i'd take shred easily

[violet silo]

kuva nukor > tenet cycron > tenet glaxion

glax isnt bad but the real reason you'd use it over anything else is for the augment

btw the first 2 are secondaries

[fierce lark]

i wanna say glax is better than cycron? i'd have to run it through a calc

[violet silo]

with cascadia flare? I doubt it

[fierce lark]

the featured build on underframe for cycron is critless encumber 🤔

[violet silo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/774913008789880842/1507022940917469294/Tumblr_l_191259463511619.gif

[novel bear]

Flare’s not that much better than the acolyte arcanes
26%

Without savvy, which you’re probably running

[fierce lark]

it also loses the deadhead headshot % so it's actually worse on headshots

[violet silo]

idk then, might be worse than glax

def worse than nukor, so idk why I'd ever run it anywayss

[fierce lark]

not owning enervate would be the only reason

[quiet storm]

Rlly? Alright, i could put Berserk Fury (dont have Primed Fury )

[fierce lark]

berserker is better anyway

[novel bear]

Unless you’re using a light attack melee as a boss killer for some bizarre reason

[quiet storm]

That's true

This is designed to build up and one shot bosses with a heavy attack

[novel bear]

Are you killing trash with it?

[quiet storm]

I assume trash is small mobs then yeah

[fierce lark]

yeah so you're stacking bfury on that, when stacked it's better than pfury

[quiet storm]

Alright

[hexed ruin]

hey, coming back to the game after a long time. I looked up a valkyr build and they seem to have an exilus slot on the talons, but I dont have one on mine. Is it story locked or something?

[fierce lark]

i think you need to have owned a weapon exilus adapter at some point to see it? or maybe you need to own a weapon exilus mod

the exilus slot is for a tennokai mod anyways, if you don't have any of those then don't worry about it for now

tennokai is a system that came out with whisper in the wall, if you have one of the mods equipped then your light attacks have a chance to trigger a free heavy that's max speed and doesn't drain combo

[hexed ruin]

oh ok, I dont have any tennokai mods so maybe thats why. I definitely have owned/used a weapon exilus mod before

[fierce lark]

you probably don't have any melee exilus mods

[neat zodiac]

Hello. I wanna know if it's viable to put red tau shards on yareli prime for secondary crit chance or I should do it for ability strength?

[rain pulsar]

is there a way to mod the duviri weps to make them not suck when youre in sp?

[plain dust]

Dont use sun & moon

[rain pulsar]

you can get other weps?

[spiral chasm]

you can buy them at the cave with pathos clamps

[rain pulsar]

what makes the sun & moon so bad?

[nocturne spindle]

if you wanna buff secondaries orange would probably be better, but i think yareli benefits more from blue armor shards, since that affects merulina's survivability

[violet silo]

nothing

as in, it is nothing

[nocturne spindle]

it's not so much bad, as it is that there are too many better options to go for it

[violet silo]

nothing special or noteworthy

[tawny nova]

Should I replace the Riven (+152.6% Damage, +81.8% Multishot, and +83.4% Impact) I have for my Kuva Brakk for Lethal Torrent?

[rain pulsar]

it takes me like 3 finishers to kill 1 duviri guy in sp with it

[nocturne spindle]

yea you might need to switch to another melee

or change up the loadout entirely to support it

but that is probably too much effort for too little payoff

[rain pulsar]

what loadout?

[nocturne spindle]

frame+other weapons in other words

[neat zodiac]

I'm more or less satisfied with survivability with merulina for now. So u are saying that oranges with stacks is better for secondary crit chance than red taus?

[rain pulsar]

what would they have to do with it when im in duviri without them?

[nocturne spindle]

the secondary crit buff from orange stacks higher to my knowledge, unless you're specifically asking about non-tau orange vs tau reds

i'd have to look up the numbers

[nocturne spindle]

wait are you talking about when you're playing as the drifter?

[rain pulsar]

yes when im playing as the drifter in duviri my sirroco and sun & moon suck

[nocturne spindle]

oh you don't mod your weapons in that case lol, how well you are in duviri is entirely up to the decrees you get

in other words, it's luck baby

https://tenor.com/view/bumbur95-gamba-gif-14352293880158182327

[neat zodiac]

I don't have enough shards to get tau oranges but I have 3 tau reds. what if there is no way for me to apply fire damage to stack up with orange shards? I'm asuming for shorter missions reds are more viable?

[nocturne spindle]

ok upon some research a single non-tau orange maxes out at 50% while a tau red is around 37.5%

[fierce lark]

i'd probably just reroll it tbh, that's a pretty mediocre roll and you could easily get better

[nocturne spindle]

depends on how short, tbh in those situations having shards or not likely wouldn't make much of a difference

cuz yareli already buffs secondary crit a lot with her passive so any more would probably give diminishing returns in a short amount of time, i'd have to test it tho

[tawny nova]

What stats are good for riven brakk? google says damage and multi?

[neat zodiac]

yeah that's also tru. one last thing I'm interested in. If I have multiple topaz shards does it only increase crit chance cap or it also scales faster (I mean if I have 2 shards do they give me 2% instead of 1% for each kill) or none of those

[nocturne spindle]

it increases the cap

i think i have around 4 tau oranges on my mesa and it goes up to 220%-ish?

[fierce lark]

crit chance, crit damage, multishot, maybe toxin

brakk has a good base fire rate, a low mag size and it can equip cannonade, so i'd sooner use cannonade over a damage riven

[rain pulsar]

that really sucks cause then it just turns all the enemies into bullet sponges and makes everything super long

[fierce lark]

google AI is not always right btw

[neat zodiac]

thank u so much

[nocturne spindle]

tbh in duviri experience i wouldn't fight the enemies unless i really needed their mats

[rain pulsar]

in the lone story for the clamps

only reason im on this slogfest lol

[nocturne spindle]

you can get clamps a lot easier from the oraxia mode

[rain pulsar]

oh

i didnt know that

[nocturne spindle]

yea lol, that's what everyone runs for quick clamps

[rain pulsar]

now i feel really dumb cause i had like 80 some clamps about a week ago and i was wondering where i got them all

[nocturne spindle]

probably leftovers from operation eight claw back when isleweaver came out

think i had 200 by the time it ended lol

[tawny nova]

ah ty!

[rain pulsar]

are the prime versions of weps always better for the incarnon upg?

[velvet pulsar]

Not everytime, but most of the time

[nocturne spindle]

Depends on the weapon, like for boltor

Prime has more status, telos has more crit

It's a play style preference at that point

[velvet pulsar]

Telos also gives a permanent parkour velocity boost

[rain pulsar]

i kinda meant when they only have a base and prime variant

[velvet pulsar]

Base vasto is better than prime

[rain pulsar]

like the lex or somth

[nocturne spindle]

For lex the prime is preferred to my knowledge

Works well for me at least

[rain pulsar]

you get slightly more base dmg with base lex but the prime gets like 5% more crit i think

[velvet pulsar]

Keep a lookout Ballistica incarnon coz I suspect that prime version will be heavily nerfed at the cost of buffing ghosts

Similar to how sancti magistar was nerfed for more healing

[ornate cosmos]

how do i build the runa

to use her 4, that is

[mighty flare]

build examples here: #1492606866482794601 message
ur sorta there, wants more range and doesnt need energize

[ornate cosmos]

i'll run out of energy tho

[mighty flare]

swap blind rage for transient or make sure 3 is always up, or mystic bond/synth deconstruct companion, lots of ways

[ornate cosmos]

i made a persistence build for her
and went on a void storm

very much not healthy, wouldn't reccomend

[fierce lark]

bane+xata's on the stahlta is doing some disgusting shit

idk if it was worth the 30k endo to max corpus bane 💀

but deepmine grinding is more fun at least

[rain pulsar]

what would be a good ability for giving me energy, i have blightbonnet and nourish and was wondering if there were any others?

[fierce lark]

spectrorage with spectrosiphon, lycath's hunt

dispensary

lycath's is probably the only thing realistically competing with nourish? or dispensary if you're able to stay in it the entire time

[rain pulsar]

is voruna a good frame for using wepons with?

[mighty flare]

yes, one of the better frames for that

[inner raptor]

which glaive mod do i add to falcor?

[rain pulsar]

just melees or guns too?

[sharp portal]

I did my best

[mighty flare]

just melees

[sharp portal]

I need more arcanes

[karmic badger]

And snipers technically

[sharp portal]

▪︎ Primed fulmination
▪︎ Primed pistol ammo mutation
▪︎ Amalgam canon diffusion
▪︎ Accelerated Isotope
▪︎ Pistol Pestilence
▪︎ Magnetic Might
▪︎ Corch
▪︎ Frostbite
▪︎ Sure Shot

Is it good?

[sharp portal]

How

[karmic badger]

Orbs for headshots

[sharp portal]

Crazy

[karmic badger]

Though equilibrium makes that pointless

[velvet pulsar]

That only exists because it's a subsume, otherwise voruna doesn't have gun buffing

[karmic badger]

Its why i said technically

[rain pulsar]

can the tenet glaxion hit headshots? and if so is it worth running galv scope on it?

[green gyro]

yes, no

[rain pulsar]

could anyone give me tips for my drakgoon build?

[fierce lark]

bigger heat mod, and fire rate instead of shrapnel

savvy over point blank if you have it

[formal tusk]

Why does ninjase use aerodynamic on koumei?

[formal tusk]

Degrees shenanigans as it seems (im totally blind)

[fierce lark]

that is entirely the reason yes

[hollow sphinx]

hey guys, any good build for the Grimoire, i have all of its mods too

[mossy osprey]

Hello which bounties do I have to do to get some shotgun mod for my kuva sobek?,

Is nano applicator good for kuva sobek?

I just got it first try

[old marsh]

Should also use something like wall latch/aim glide for her Exilus

[mossy osprey]

And does someone have nautilus prime build because it's my first prime companion

[elfin sluice]

points of improvement for this reap nuke build?
archon shard setup is x5 tauforged strength atm.

[polar knoll]

guys does this mod work when I detonate my xoris?

[gleaming vapor]

ye

[rain pulsar]

is the coda mire good for slam spamming or no

[velvet pulsar]

It is

[normal vessel]

You definitely want to replace Sure Shot with Galvanized Shot when you can

[rich glacier]

where the hell is 1920 coming from?

I do have 2 shards but they should affect primaries only. I still do 128 base damage so there shouldn't be any bugs

[upper latch]

yo any melee weapons which throw their attacks like syam does but in normal attacks and not heavy attacks only

[versed harbor]

exalted blade or exodia contagion tbh

[opal leaf]

Slashes?

[celest tendon]

Is revenant ability added in lavos Warframe with 410% strength any good for lvl cap

And the shade invisible mode

[dapper glen]

Any good advice to play mag ?
i dont know how to play her well

[versed harbor]

pick a weapon that pairs well with her magnetize, use her 2 and 4 augments and build high range, run enough strength for 100% armor strip on her 4

casting 3 or 4 will fully rebuild shields usually so you use that to survive aswell as fast killing and using magnetize bubbles on choke points (itll block enemies and bullets)

[hot herald]

Whats stats should I look for in a Boar Riven?

[dapper glen]

i mainly use coda bubonico and tenet cycron, its good for her ?

[versed harbor]

bubonico will probably do alright tbh but heres a rly good list from ninjase

the whole guide in general is rly good ill leave it here https://overframe.gg/build/208289/mag-prime/breach-and-crush-magnetize-nuke-and-full-strip-crush-steel-path-endurance/

[slow drift]

Hey does anyone know a good rhino build or overall loadout for aberration?

[opal leaf]

Just... Go do strength and... Armor I guess? I think his Iron Skin called in armor, so do those

[pastel temple]

You really don't need armor on rhino

He just wants strength and some range. Duration is up to preference

[weary elbow]

anyone has a good build for Hydroid? if you can squeeze Pilfering Swarm even better

[rain pulsar]

ive had all galv mods for almost 2 years now and i just realized that savvy and aptitude are just condition overload for guns

[viscid hazel]

hi, me again lmao.

This was recommended as a meta arbi Saryn build... can someone explain to me why this is considered a meta arbi build when the range is so poor? I can't spread any spores.

[pastel temple]

Meta saryn builds often don't use spores at all

They use venom dose to buff their weapons they use to nuke instead

In theory spores should be good enough for arbi's level but once a drone spawns in, the chain reaction stops

[iron grail]

Kuva Ogris with nightwatch napalm on saryn is what's meta atm for arbi anyway, since like chirpy said spores stop spreading when drones appear

The napalm will continue damaging everything for awhile afterwards as well

[viscid hazel]

Spores won't spread at all with this build, drones or no drones 😂 so this build is only really useful for one ability?

Damn

[iron grail]

Fair, you're making saryn into a weapons platform so its actually fine, venom dose, toxic lash and I personally like using xata over the 4

Turns into a beast of a loadout for arbis

[viscid hazel]

xata's whisper?

[iron grail]

Yup, it has a rather nasty interaction with toxic lash where I think the toxin damage procs xata again

If you use a bane with that it ends up triple buffing that interation

That was the tech most people used before new war came out, and I believe it hasn't changed since

Though yeah, with the introduction of elementalist, bane's are not really needed anymore

[quiet laurel]

again, you keep up your 1, 3 and 4 while shooting spawns with ogris, her spores are absolutely useless

[viscid hazel]

I was told Bane's are important because they multiply last or something

[versed harbor]

even general use saryn builds barely use spores now fr

[quiet laurel]

banes and elementalist are both multiplicative but banes multiply saryns toxic lash 3 times

[iron grail]

Yeah basically, banes buff the upfront damage and the damge over time which means higher dots from the upfront damage and then that dot getting bufed by the bane again. This is what we call "double dipping"

Elementalist does the same but just to the DoTs I believe, no changes to upfront damage

[quiet laurel]

but banes for arbis arent necessary if you have a good wisp roar/rhino

[iron grail]

Didn't mean to info dump haha, but that's the jist of it

[iron grail]

Yeah, banes aren't necessary at all to begin with, its more a min maxing thing

[quiet laurel]

faction bonus is important for arbis

[viscid hazel]

I see, thanks guys. I should keep my bane of grineer though, right?

[quiet laurel]

huge dps buff

no faction buff is big despair

[viscid hazel]

Also, should I go xata's whisper or energised munitions?

[iron grail]

Check the mission type and adjust it accordingly

[quiet laurel]

energized munitions

[iron grail]

I guess that's more ammo economy, can't go wrong with either though

[quiet laurel]

you go energized munitions for arbis

xatas doesnt do much

[viscid hazel]

Also may I just say, I wish we could apply forma to specific mod config slots the same way you can apply the subsume to specific slots

[quiet laurel]

you'll be reloading 75% less so thats a huge amount of increase in spawn coverage

[quiet laurel]

I mean the solution to the forma problem is omni forma

but for the subsume I fully agree

also wish we could use different shards for different configs

[viscid hazel]

yeah but how often do you come across an omni forma

[quiet laurel]

a lot of the time since you can just buy 3 for 150p

[viscid hazel]

for me like once in 29 years

[viscid hazel]

huh. how

[iron grail]

The bundle from the market

[quiet laurel]

go to market, search for omni forma and buy the 3 omni forma bundle

[viscid hazel]

i... did not see this

oops

[iron grail]

I haven't really been following the meta for years now, whats the current loadout for arbis then?

[quiet laurel]

depends on the map and skill of the players but usual meta rn is 2x cyte with sobek or boar and a vauban with wisp as supports

rhino is often used instead of vauban on interceptions

and then wisp runs thermal sunder or empowered instead of roar

[iron grail]

2x cyte is interesting, what's their role?

[quiet laurel]

the dps

[velvet pulsar]

Electric boxes everywhere

[quiet laurel]

infinite terrain punch through means you can just shoot enemy spawns the moment enemies spawn

[iron grail]

o, that's nasty

[quiet laurel]

saryn/mirage ogris was old meta but was limited to the map

now you can just play any map and shoot spawns

[iron grail]

What weapons do you use on cyte then?

[quiet laurel]

heavily depends on the situation and whether you are host or client

and whether you have a good PC or not

[velvet pulsar]

Toxocyst Cyte must be universal

[quiet laurel]

but usually either sobek or boar

[viscid hazel]

btw, I don't have umbral intensify because i sold it lol, can i just use regular intensify or is the extra 14% strength important?

[velvet pulsar]

Toxocyst Cyte has to be a meta in mobile atleast.

Because of the insane aim assist

[iron grail]

Oh sobek and cyte, that's a combo I have to get now

[quiet laurel]

toxocyst cyte is not it

like its good for things like cascade lvl cap

where you dont get hyperbuffed

[inner raptor]

he said mobile

[quiet laurel]

oh the device

maybe idk why would you mobile arbis 💀

[velvet pulsar]

Has people incorporated the mobile aim assist into meta?

[inner raptor]

its prolly hard to sweat in mobile kek

[quiet laurel]

actually grieving yourself and your mates

[iron grail]

To me it's kinda insane people can play at all on mobile

[quiet laurel]

if someone joins on mobile the host will very likely lag out and the mobile player will desync

[velvet pulsar]

Ah

[inner raptor]

most phones nowadays are way beefier than ps4. a moment of silence for those poor souls with humongous load time

[quiet laurel]

and its not like you can already jitter aim on MnK

[inner raptor]

is this first hand experience or just a hunch

[viscid hazel]

[velvet pulsar]

It made poetic sense that a mobile player ends up playing the most moba shooter frame, Cyte-09, with that insane aim assist because in warframe the aim assist accounts punch through as well.

[velvet pulsar]

Archon Intensify if u can

[quiet laurel]

I mean I am on PS5 with decent connection and desynced in an arbi on 200ms just now

without thermal sunder

[iron grail]

I was more talking about the controls or parkour would work on mobile, I already get so much wrist pain from PC can't imagine what mobile would do

[viscid hazel]

oh i have archon intensify but saryn doesn't heal

[velvet pulsar]

I'd only play warframe on my Ps5 if I'm using the Prisma Angstrum

[velvet pulsar]

She does, but needs 2nd ability augment. Not worth it.

[quiet laurel]

despite what people say warframe is just very unoptimized when it comes to host/client interactions

[viscid hazel]

i guess ill just stick with regular intensify if it's not that much of a problem

[iron grail]

agreed

[distant oak]

Anyone got a decent sp viable follie caster build?

I dont like gun platform and follie kit is relatively fun to use

[inner raptor]

thats a region + host problem imo gotta have to do premades so you can see the ping of the host upon invitation

[quiet laurel]

if you have a boar with multishot buffs and like 500-600% fire rate buffs on client, and shoot through a lot of terrain your fps goes to the single digits

[cinder burrow]

Can someone give me a one shot felarx build pls?

[iron grail]

That's a ... very normal amount of fire rate

[quiet laurel]

it is for meta arbis

[inner raptor]

imagine if your vauban also used the brightest energy

[quiet laurel]

meta arbi wisps already give you a 400% fire rate buff

[velvet pulsar]

Incarnon or incarnoff?

[iron grail]

Jeez, max strength wisp?

[quiet laurel]

incarnoff ofc

[viscid hazel]

well that's what I'm working with for arbi's. as you can see my creds and endo have been absolutely rinsed and i still gotta level/upgrade some of the stuff in the saryn build, but imma try this out

[quiet laurel]

max strength wisp + nidus spec + jade str buff + 4x power donation

[viscid hazel]

@quiet laurel @iron grail and whoever else, thank you so much for your help and patience with my dumb ass over the last few days, it's genuinely much appreciated

and @velvet pulsar

[quiet laurel]

looks good

[velvet pulsar]

I imagine meta arbi also DEmands vaubans for the vector damage buff

[iron grail]

No problem! good luck to you

[velvet pulsar]

Coz of being multiplicative with other damage buffs

[wild parcel]

Guys I'm rest for Warframe for 2 to Three day

[iron grail]

I know next to nothing about vauban lol

[quiet laurel]

same

I just know what I need to do in arbis and why he is used in arbis

[cinder burrow]

Can someone give me a one shot felarx build pls?

[velvet pulsar]

Played a lot of Vauban in this BOTB event.

Very convenient.

[iron grail]

is it the grouping?

[quiet laurel]

no, his vector pad giving a speed buff and a multiplicative dmg buff

[velvet pulsar]

Grouping, movement, damage (optional: nuking passed on to all squadmates)

[quiet laurel]

not for arbis

his other arbilities are quite useless in arbis

cause they wont even be able to touch enemies

everything dies the moment it spawns anyway

[wild parcel]

Guys is resting for Warframe good for rest 3 to 4 day

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah abilities don't damage arbi drones unless a summon or controlled enemy or Octavia's mallet.

[iron grail]

I didn't know vauban could buff at all

[velvet pulsar]

Ironically I forget to use the buff most of the time.

I play vauban for grouping.

And for single button nuke.

[iron grail]

Grouping is all I know about vauban

[velvet pulsar]

Photon Strike rework made Tesla Bank unnecessary on Vauban

Now I prefer to use Tesla Bank on other frames as a subsume.

[iron grail]

Photon strike?

[velvet pulsar]

His 3rd ability

[iron grail]

Actually its probably best you don't explain, Im missing so much context haha

[velvet pulsar]

It's just a single tap nuke

Deals double damage to overguarded enemies.

Scales with enemy health.

So level cap.

[iron grail]

Oh, ohhh

That's nasty

[velvet pulsar]

Absolutely

[iron grail]

Wish Ember's 4 was like that

[velvet pulsar]

About that

[distant oak]

Oh so thats why my photon strike did jack

[velvet pulsar]

I think when in livestream someone in chat asked for that, Reb looked at Pablo and asked "Helminth?"

My guess is that old retired abilities are returning via helminth.

[iron grail]

That would be soooo nice

Basically fixing the problem of players preferring pre rework abilities

[hexed lodge]

Puddle?

[velvet pulsar]

Puddle
Super jump

Old vauban jump vector

[fervent rapids]

old Inaros ability that no one will ever use but hey it's there