builds-discussion

[near crater]

My Boltor Inc just makes the game struggle

Even in solo

[fierce lark]

oh dude primed combustion rounds

actually sick

[quiet laurel]

did you see what primed dual rounds goes for

insane investment value

[opal leaf]

Blast Furis?

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-grabbed-grab-hand-dark-gif-9326241848929200928

[marble marten]

Thank goodness you didn't see my Loki mushroom.

[marble marten]

Yes

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not a bad fashion actually, super envious of that ephemera i take it

[slender summit]

Anyone here have a good build for Aeolak?

[gaunt star]

Is that the primary weapon that you get from zariman?

[slender summit]

Yep

[opal leaf]

Might try, any other mods you got there? Can I see the build?

[marble marten]

The one in the video was this one lol

[marble marten]

1 min

[chrome badge]

bro holy hell, your fashion is awesome

is that the new ephemera from the gauss and grendel deluxe set

i dont remember

[gaunt star]

Ah
Same old
Multishot
Serration
Critical chance
Critical damage
Galvanized aptitude
Viral heat

I don't remember if it has a gimmick or not

[slender summit]

Alt fire make things go boom (Blast damage)

[gaunt star]

Ah

[gaunt star]

Build should still be the same
If you got merciless or deadhead then replace serration with magnetic might for extra magnetic might or something extra for your comfort

[marble marten]

Now I use the ephemera of a lich, you can also make it snow-type, or Power Rangers lol

[chrome badge]

do you mind telling me the name of this ephemera, pretty please

[slender summit]

Is this for Furis?

[marble marten]

Yes

[opal leaf]

Aight would try

[chrome badge]

🤦‍♂️ i have this one

im throwing

[marble marten]

It's cool, it leaves a trail of smoke and it looks like sand lol

That sigil fills any weapon you use with sand lol

If you use full black, you become a shapeless shadow xD

[fringe quiver]

Okay so I want constructive criticism on my current kitgun. I believe I built it as best I can short of maxing the mods and maybe replacing some with prime mods I don’t have. It’s served me well but I struggled last night with level 200-300 SP Kuva grineers and I don’t know if that’s an enemy armor or a gun issue.

Also I have tenacious bond active so the crit damage multiplier is a bit higher than usual

I run this gun with Yareli for a 200% crit chance boost for even more sexy damage

[timid pivot]

God pull??

[fringe quiver]

Idk about the pandero? I don’t use that gun but isn’t the multishot penalty bad?

[timid pivot]

Yes I meant the one in the right

[fringe quiver]

Left?

I was talking about the one on the right

[quartz tartan]

I'd use the Pandero one with Pistol Acuity, but...

[timid pivot]

Meant left

[timber sparrow]

opinions on this build (its for the proboscis cernos)

i just did it based on the others ive seen on overframe

think im satisfied because mine has the higher dps yep yep

[ancient nova]

is this good for dex pxia

[steep garnet]

guyss please for the love of good does anyone have a high level saryn build

[fringe quiver]

I don’t have experience with the mutualist cernos but it’s a good roll. However I do agree that the reload speed penalty is what holds it back.

You might get an offer or two if you sell it though! It’s not a god roll but it’s still pretty dang good imo

[timber sparrow]

oh someone else doing the mutalist cernos lol

negative reload speed is awful because the quick shot is better and being able to do that more is better ofc

[fringe quiver]

Aye, but you can at least use a mod for it? There’s gotta be a reload speed mod right? It’s not ideal but that’s why it’s not a god roll 🙂‍↕️

[slender summit]

What many changes could I make?

[fierce lark]

oh i thought they were both pandero rivens lol

[timber sparrow]

@timid pivot here's mine

[fierce lark]

im pretty sure +pt kills a mutalist cernos riven

causes the clouds to not appear where you hit

[timber sparrow]

i wish the cloud was actually useful

[prime scarab]

Are furax amalgam and amalgam serration the only stat stick mods I can toss on Yareli's other gear to buff her play since her secondary is her dps?

[prime scarab]

True, I meant on her gear though. I definitely still am pumping the companion up too.

[fringe quiver]

Also do you ride Merulina or use the follower augment?

[prime scarab]

Loyal Merulina 100%

[fringe quiver]

On her gear specifically

[prime scarab]

Yeah, just stat stick type stuff

I think furax's secondary fire rate and amalgam serrations sprint speed are all I can really manage

I'd like a parkour speed in there too but furax amalgam is too good to pass up for a praedos

[fringe quiver]

As a waverider I am disappointed but I am a Yareli enjoyer so I shalt put my bias aside

[prime scarab]

900% dmg increase is hard to give up

[river flame]

bout to make a new frame whos good to build

[prime scarab]

Grendel

[old charm]

Excalibur

[prime scarab]

Don't listen to him Excal isn't fun

[timber sparrow]

what?

[river flame]

i was thinking mirage

[prime scarab]

Mister "I can act independently and fight while you're an operator but I suck while I do it"

Mirage is sick too

[river flame]

mirage or dante

[old charm]

Dante OP

[river flame]

ive done saryn and uriel so far

[prime scarab]

Mirage is really really versatile and doesn't require a ton of brainpower. Dante is OP as hell but you have to think a bit.

[old charm]

Dante feels like playing WoW in the good way

But he’s exceptionally OP

[prime scarab]

Yeah he's got a really strict rotation

[timber sparrow]

oh no mines worse now

[prime scarab]

Dante does feel like WoW, you're right, I never put that together

[river flame]

i want a bit like weapon based frame but also abilities

[prime scarab]

TR then go mirage

Mirage is THE weapons platform

[old charm]

I do actually have a build video for Dante

[prime scarab]

Dante is great and strong I just don't like having to think that much about the order I press my buttons in

[river flame]

@prime scarab sameee

[prime scarab]

If I want an overguard frame I just run Frost instead. Dante is better at it but I have more fun with Frost.

That being said I stand by Grendel

Weapons platforming is fairly easy with him, ability spam, speed, he does it all

[river flame]

yeahhh but i dont know if i want basic weapon frame again bc i got saryn already

[prime scarab]

He isn't a basic weapon frame at all

I pretty much only use his weapons when I'm bored and want to mix it up.

His primary playstyle is press 1 to eat 5 people, press 4 to spit them out and armor strip, and press 2 to heal yourself and get viral and infinite energy

Then I'll bust out the tenet glaxion on him if I wanna weapons platform since its my favorite gun

Laetum or Dual Coda on the secondary slot

[old charm]

I play Dante when I want to play effectively an entirely different game within Warframe, especially compared to my sweaty melee only Excalibur normal playstyle

[river flame]

noooo i mean mirage

thats why i kinda wanna do dante

[prime scarab]

Oooh, mirage is STUPID versatile. You can make a build that is ability spam, one thats weapons, one thats mixed, she has the best ESO build

[old charm]

His subsume is worthless and he’s not getting a Prime for a long time. Dante is definitely one of the best Warframes in the game overall

[prime scarab]

Any kind of build you want to run on mirage you pretty much can

[river flame]

or should i make ability build for saryn?

[prime scarab]

Saryn is also pretty versatile just because lash

but she's better as a weapons frame imo

@fierce lark can probably direct you there tho

[old charm]

I don’t think people think of Kullero as a weapon’s platform Warframe often enough and just focus on the melee aspects of him

[old charm]

Collective curve is an insane weapon’s platform ability as an example

[timber sparrow]

the blast one just goes crazy against infested chargers because i dont know

[prime scarab]

Kullervo served one role

The chair

[old charm]

Ruining early game for new players?

[prime scarab]

I eated him

[old charm]

Booooooooo

[river flame]

fuuuuck i think ill do dante

[prime scarab]

As soon as I get more lucent globes temple and qorvex are going to the chair too

[old charm]

TBH, wrathful advance is probably my most used subsume, but I don’t even use a subsume now for simplicity

And im literally a melee only excalibur player

[prime scarab]

I use subsumes only if the base kit doesn't flow.

Like people bug me to subsume over my 3 on Nokko but like. Then I can't run him in spy missions as well, and I lose my cleanse on him.

I just prefer full kits whenever possible.

[old charm]

I subusme over nokko’s #1, but I’m a weird one like that. Its not necessary to get bounces with his 4

[near vortex]

isn't the only subsume Nokko would want to run is roar over 1

[old charm]

There’s a lot more sources of viral like your companion and whatever, so i just dont find them useful

[prime scarab]

I have been considering doing the same because I never use his poison shroom. I want all bounces on the energy shroom anyway because my red crits are doing enough damage.

[old charm]

Their range iirc is pretty bad

Technically too, when you have the viral shrooms out, you get less energy pulses

[prime scarab]

Yeah thats what I mean

I want the energy and str pulses

[old charm]

I forget what I subsumed on him, I actually put a decent amount of time into nokko when he came out

[prime scarab]

Problem is Nokko doesn't really want for anything. Maybe Roar?

[old charm]

There was something clever i had

Let me log in real quick and check

[timber sparrow]

anyway

[fierce lark]

waduhek

[timber sparrow]

i love auto build

[ripe parcel]

What does it do?

[timber sparrow]

it.. auto builds

[ripe parcel]

For mods

[timber sparrow]

yes

zamn

[ripe parcel]

How do you activate it

[quiet laurel]

lotsa names I dont know having a discussion i builds discussion, grok, is misinformation being spread?

[old charm]

Looks like I put roar over his 1 on at least one config

[timber sparrow]

im just building a proboscis cernos

[prime scarab]

Yeah that tracks

[timber sparrow]

have you used underframe

[ripe parcel]

Nope

[timber sparrow]

well its on that site

[ripe parcel]

Ok I will start researching

[old charm]

I did interesting stuff with combat discipline for archon intensify, since you can proc that with his 3

[fierce lark]

i got pinged to help make ability saryn and im unsure how to respond because saryn has like 1 actual ability to do damage and it sucks

[prime scarab]

Yeah I told him weapons was better but he asked and you're the saryn lady so

[chrome badge]

lol

[fierce lark]

lady huh

[prime scarab]

Yeah I just pick a gender and run with it until someone corrects me

[chrome badge]

not a good idea

[fierce lark]

i mean fair but my bits dangle so

[prime scarab]

I've known ladies with dangle bits

[quiet laurel]

dont you dare insult the spore meta that needs 10 level cap runs to do enough damage so you dont fail the survival mission

[chrome badge]

not a valid sett of responses

[woeful scaffold]

does Coda Sporothrix also work with mag or do i rather stick to the normal one?

[old charm]

Considering 99% of the time you could be right statistically speaking

[fierce lark]

🤔

tbh if you were going to make an assumption based on anything you’d go with m’theydy

considering my pfp is a genderless plankton colony

[prime scarab]

I have no idea what your pfp is so

Just assumed standard anime fan

[old charm]

I don’t even know what pfp means

[prime scarab]

profile picture

[west radish]

how to maximaze arogn crystal drops

[prime scarab]

I just take Nekros into Mot

[old charm]

Well I don’t feel that old since that was my only guess 😄

[west radish]

doing it rn

bad

have nova and khora as well but

they legit in diffrent room every 15 seconds

[prime scarab]

Yeah they suck, go solo or with friends

[old charm]

SP void survival and just play for a bit. You can do sweatier things like capture and hope you get them, but I find it more reliable to just go into survival

[timber sparrow]

OH GOD IT PICKED HAMMER SHOT

[quiet laurel]

I just take high KPM setups for argon farms

[fierce lark]

the “best” argon farm is max range xaku mot, iirc

[prime scarab]

Xaku, huh?

[fierce lark]

box breaking

[coral crest]

What

[prime scarab]

Oh true

[fierce lark]

speaking of box

[fierce lark]

pinto beans lavos

(precision intensify)

[coral crest]

Oh precision intensify

[old charm]

I like hammer shots, its a nice option compared to the 120% CD mod when you need to hit a certain status chance breakpoint

[coral crest]

I mean he's incapable of killing anything with 1-3

It's either pint or triumbral with persistence for me

[timber sparrow]

but its stupid rare

[quiet laurel]

stupid rare and has barely any use

[velvet pulsar]

If it's persistence then it should be umbral

[timber sparrow]

okay that makes sense

[coral crest]

That's what I said

[old charm]

Nothing is rare when trading exists. Most the time its more practical to farm platinum another way and just buy it

[timber sparrow]

it does a lot to babau tho

gas electricity viral lol

[coral crest]

Precision intensify if not running triumbral, if running triumbral use persistence to compensate

[timber sparrow]

no

this isnt even worth it

[old charm]

Hmm, saryn is actually a decent persistence host

[fierce lark]

hammer shot sucks lol it’s just worse than vital sense and rarely worth running alongside

[coral crest]

I remember someone here called me extremely ignorant and killing build variety with "meta", because they had a Lavos build that nuked enemies with 1-3 instead of 4(which is subsumed)

They said they'll share a build

[old charm]

Its a nice tool as a way to hit certain status chance breakpoints

[coral crest]

I'm still waiting... For like half a year now

[fierce lark]

saryn is possibly one of the worst frames in the game you could try to use persistence on

[coral crest]

[old charm]

She’s got decent health/armor base while having an augment that provides healing. Sounds just fine to me

[opal leaf]

Yo

[fierce lark]

the augment doesn’t heal enough to outheal persistence no matter how much strength you have

[fringe quiver]

Afraid so. I looked through the mods list on the wiki and those are the best ones. Here is a shotgun mod for faster revives but you’re better off using the sprint speed one.

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[marble marten]

Lol had never seen the Furis Incarnon beam from another pov

[timber sparrow]

i can use this specifically if i wanna kill techrot ig

[old charm]

Depends on how you use persistence, I use a multi layered approach to healing that usually involves hunter recovery, some sort of warframe direct healing, and magus elevate/repair as a backup

[fierce lark]

yeah that’s ass just shieldgate

[timber sparrow]

except the hammer shot wtf

[chrome badge]

holy solar flare

[velvet pulsar]

Blowtorch

[west radish]

does fire on my ocucor make me drop less argon crystals

[slender summit]

What Archon Shards would I want in Yareli Prime? I just unlocked the Archon Shard Segment for Helminth

[old charm]

After slash dash got overguard immunity, i swapped to arcane circumvent on excalibur. I do find the compromises with persistence on a lot of frames to not be worth it unless they have some sort of built in status immunity or healing

[old charm]

Probably at least one casting speed

[chrome badge]

yes if youre using nekros

[west radish]

i am

can you tell me more

[chrome badge]

bc youre burning not slashing

[west radish]

do i need to kill with ripkas or do i need it just equip

[chrome badge]

its still 1 corpse

[slender summit]

Regular or Tauforged?

[west radish]

can i even mod ocucor for slash

[chrome badge]

that ripkas augment is talking about kills in general

[chrome badge]

or... consider not using ocucor

[west radish]

i dont have many choices xD

[chrome badge]

yes you do

[old charm]

Idk, I would generally put at least one on most frames but whether you want to commit or not is up to you. I only put Tau on everything but I have functionally infinite amount of tau

[chrome badge]

if you have ocucor, you have so many other options

you can use primaries

[timber sparrow]

the dual toxocyst is there

and the furis you literally have an incarnon

[opal leaf]

Nata is there too

[chrome badge]

you have at least 7 options here with slash

[west radish]

okay which one lowest invesment

[vital glade]

WHIOPS

[fierce lark]

where ripkas

[vital glade]

wrong channel

[chrome badge]

maybe consider investing

[timber sparrow]

why cant i have 1 build that just does 2 mil damage to every faction 😪

[fierce lark]

yeah ok so this makes you gore everything, you don’t need slash

[west radish]

im getting slightly confused

[old charm]

Does the amalgam ripkas and nekros desecrate combo still work?

[west radish]

arent enemies burning

[fierce lark]

If you have the mod equipped, all of your kills against non-frozen enemies will cause dismemberments regardless of damage type

with any weapon

[west radish]

great so i can spam ocucor or furis

[fierce lark]

yes

[old charm]

You can with excalibur

[west radish]

this will do?

swap flare for enervate?

[formal glade]

should i keep my kuva nukor bonus status to heat? cuz it doing 600k to 3mil DoT

[old charm]

Kuva nukor don’t care

[coral crest]

Health tank Saryn... does health tank Saryn here actually imply tanking with your health or bolting away using molt as a distraction at at every possible inconvenience?

[versed harbor]

mag is still better tbh

[fierce lark]

magnetic/impact would be better

[versed harbor]

heat progenitor isnt adding that much and it just makes building for other factions annoying

[fierce lark]

for another gshot element

[fringe quiver]

Should I swap magnetic to some other damage type? It has a low status chance so I’m not relying on it

[viscid bane]

Anyone tried Excal with Hot Shot?

[opal leaf]

You can with a specific frame tbh

My cyte can constantly reach 400k to 85 million (I did not see a time where it didn't give me a millie)

[versed harbor]

gaze is probably best as viral elec or viral heat im guessing

with giga status chance

[vital glade]

how good is the strun prime with it's Incarnon?

[vital glade]

send build thanks

[fringe quiver]

I didn’t build it for status chance, literally, I only have 17% status chance on it with the parts I used. I am not worried about primers here.

[vital glade]

I completely ignored Cyte's exalted because I was too addicted to spamming resupply with literally everything else

[marble marten]

I forgot to show you my main skins, which one do you prefer?

[opal leaf]

Oh wait I can do that hold on

[opal leaf]

Cyte hitting 2 mil and 5 mil

[vital glade]

send the build! send the build!

[opal leaf]

Aight aight

[vital glade]

I just wanna see what polarities are actually used

[timber sparrow]

can you demonstrate with the probscis cernos kthx

[versed harbor]

nah elec is a cracked damage over time too

[chrome badge]

dude, can you stop. you have too many good fashions 😭 😭

i cant rate them alllll waaaaaaaa

[opal leaf]

Acuity....

[versed harbor]

beam weapons just generally prefer stacking tons of dots and gaze can spec into that

[timber sparrow]

no

[vital glade]

woah wait who's at 3

[old charm]

Persistence’s 500/sec cap is only a problem if you don’t have multiple reliable sources of healing and low health. I try to get 2000 health or more which is effectively 4 seconds or more of survivability, plenty of time for your companion to hit one target and full heal you or pop into operator and Magus Repair over 500/sec

[marble marten]

furis fashion 😭

[opal leaf]

That's where Cyte's excel at. At hitting weakpoints

[coral crest]

Hey I'm not saying it can't work

[timber sparrow]

well i dont want to

[chrome badge]

genuinely post more in the fashion frame channel

[coral crest]

There's a lot of ways to do so

[slender summit]

Are Archon Shards really even necessary?

[opal leaf]

Well with a cernos.... Idk how

[vital glade]

what's that red black hole ephemra

[fringe quiver]

Sure but I don’t have the status chance for that… like I am purely talking about elemental damage here 🤷‍♀️

[vital glade]

they just elevate your build a bit more

i mean you can put purple shards as a replacement equilibrium and bam! you have a free mod slot!

[opal leaf]

@vital glade

[vital glade]

thanks cc

[opal leaf]

Sure thing

[old charm]

The reality of post attenuation nerf Warframe is that most things will work all the way to level cap without doing a crazy amount of stacking. Fitting Persistence into almost any Warframe is possible without nuking the Warframe’s potential. Its just far far better if they have a base 250 armor or higher, decent base health so you’re not having to burn all your archon shards to get close to 2000 (arcane blessing exists), and having built in healing and/or status immunity is a huge advantage but not required.

[vital glade]

NOT A SINGLE FORMA? damn

[opal leaf]

Yeah no Forma, and it works well

As you can see the result earlier in the vid

[vital glade]

how good is the strun

[fringe quiver]

Damn I see it’s an exalted. I was like “OH BET LES GOOOO”

[vital glade]

I've seen someone say it's one of the best incarnons

[old charm]

Strun Incarnon? Very good and a lot of fun with its hip fire vs ADS patterning feature

[opal leaf]

It is an exalted haha

[vital glade]

but like....everyone says everything is the best at this point so I'm struggling to believe that lol

[old charm]

The only things that’s truly “the best” is whatever lets you enjoy the game

[vital glade]

yes but is it even that good

[slender summit]

What mods do I use for Jade's Glory and Dante's Noctura?

[vital glade]

cuz I'm gonna be honest, Warframes? I have tons now and it's a crap ton of fun, but I haven't actually done weapons that much

[opal leaf]

I agree with Agall

But for yourquestion

Yes it's good. I won't glaze on it too much but it's basically just like Boar hahaha

[vital glade]

how's the Boar?

[opal leaf]

Hits like a truxk

[opal leaf]

But in caution, BOTH ARE Incarnon

[vital glade]

I need to finish the tempestari quest

[old charm]

Whenever I want to use a shotgun, i use strun prime incarnon and it does everything I need it to do

[vital glade]

TENET BRIEFCASE WEAPONS I NEED YOU

[opal leaf]

me with my Boar

[vital glade]

any...tenet shotguns?

[old charm]

I imagine so, there’s really no ‘bad’ incarnon weapon

[old charm]

Tenet arca plasmor

[opal leaf]

TAP tbh

Tenet Arca Plasmor

[old marsh]

Envoy

[opal leaf]

Truw..... Then we have Gorgon and Soma

[old charm]

They both have their place, I’ve actually used them both quite a bit. Gorgon being amazing in its non-incarnon form and soma has the really cool shield generation feature

[opal leaf]

Fair

I guess it's Jusy comes down to whoever uses it and at what purpose

[old charm]

Yup, post jade shadows and post attenuation nerfs, the buildcrafting in this game is so ridiculous diverse that as long as you’re being smart about it, you can use basically anything

[opal leaf]

True, eh in the end... Despite being a mid weapon, I'm still loving Acceltra

[pastel temple]

Despite being a mid weapon I'm still hating on acceltra

[prime scarab]

I think everyone has a gun like this.

They can pry my glaxion out of my dead hands.

[timber sparrow]

with bane and without bane

[old charm]

Nothing wrong with fun first if it works in all the content you need it to

[timber sparrow]

anyhow i balanced out my build now

[old marsh]

Soma Incarnon is among the better incarnons if u know how to build it correctly. U can have infinite magazine which means u can maintain hata Satya forever. Sucks that most people don’t know how to use Soma

[pastel temple]

You don't understand. I hate primaries for absolutely no reason

[opal leaf]

Yeah, I'm ready to use Acceltra on fckin Limbo

[old charm]

I’ve played for 12+ years and never once used a DPS calculator, and I’ve been buildcrafting the whole time

[pastel temple]

Normalize hating something for no reason whatsoever

[old marsh]

Gorgon on the other hand has issues after lvl 2000.

[opal leaf]

I'm probably one of them

[timber sparrow]

thats nice for you but the calculator is nice for me

[old charm]

I’ve spent probably 70% of my gameplay without a primary or secondary equipped, my most used primary being daikyu for its amalgam mod

[pastel temple]

W mans, same here

The amalgam mod lets me play health tank saryn with nikana

[old charm]

Primary and secondary*, I’ve spent probably 95% of my gameplay without a secondary equipped

Kunai is still my most used and I haven’t really touched that since the beta when I would run around with kunai and loki

[pastel temple]

For me the gun slots are just platforms for uhhh uhh dexterity arcanes and amalgam mods

[old marsh]

The only bad Incarnons r the ones u have to keep charging repeatedly. Just disrupts the rhythm.

[old charm]

If you’re melee only though, they’re just making you less likely to get melee damage or strength/range fissure crack bonuses

[old charm]

You also don’t have to use the incarnon mode

[pastel temple]

They affect the bonus pool? I see

[old charm]

Yes, you only get fissure bonuses for what you have equipped. If you only have a melee weapon equipped on like Excalibur, you only ever get melee damage or strength/range

[inner raptor]

furis final incarnon node?

[old marsh]

I would if it performed like Felarx

[pastel temple]

Well it's no biggie cuz I haven't done fissures in forever

[old charm]

My buddy started running secondary only Titania after I told him this for that reason, and he does a psychotic amount of fissures

[pastel temple]

Good to know

You learn something new everyday chat

[old charm]

But this is something I’ve done since they added fissures since i started uneqiupping primary/secondaries back in the beta when they added that feature

[inner raptor]

run dark split sword for AS

[pastel temple]

Proud to be a melee main in the big 26 and the only melee I use influence on is bo prime inc, everything else is random bs

[old charm]

I just don’t use influence, its boring and lame

[inner raptor]

melee slop on slop prime

[old charm]

Few exceptions like fallout influence on exalted blade when i get really bored of a better build 😄

[pastel temple]

I stopped using the bo prime loadout too cuz I prefer health tanking saryn nikana more

[old charm]

It is hard to not use daikyu amalgam combo when using persistence, yeah

[pastel temple]

Makes me feel unstoppable but not boring levels of OP

[old charm]

On excalibur at least, arcane circumvent is the best offensive and defensive choice in comparison now, so I just generally stick to that. I spend an absurd amount of resources swapping archon shards though with how obnoxious it is being unable to make duplicates of prime or umbra

Circumvent with slash dash on a melee only build is effectively drop in levels of OP since you’re rolling anyways

[fringe quiver]

Only thing I have to say about that is how it’s WEIRD it released (I think) before the Omni stance forma. Like it’s basically a requirement

[old charm]

Dual split sword incarnon would be one heck of a vibe

Probably a nightmare to code though 😄

[timber sparrow]

apparently hellfire and thermite rounds is the best thing there

[errant fossil]

Build Wisp prime plis

[timber sparrow]

like thats crazy

[marble marten]

Testing Cascadia Overcharge+rakta dagger+toxocyst , If you have some crit shards or good riven, all your hits will be red. I recommend this for invisible frames since they will never touch your shield

[timber sparrow]

if i swap thermite it goes down to ~400k

wtf?

how does that work

[west radish]

how can i know what warframe i have ready to build meaning i can craft all of their componmenets and i have all materials needed to craft chasis neuropitfcs etc

[valid plaza]

You can check your foundry and see if they are highlighted.

And if you don't own the blueprint, then you've got that to worry about first.

Else, you could just look it up

[west radish]

yeah i wanna like bulk'

craft

mr maxxing

[astral tinsel]

I wouldn't say single target dps calculations are very relevant for a weapon like proboscis cernos

[chrome badge]

simple question, should i reget oraxia

[timber sparrow]

you may be right

[astral tinsel]

if you go electric over heat, you'll get much more status damage thanks to the grouping

[timber sparrow]

and gas

[astral tinsel]

gas has more AoE, but electric is scaled by electric mods

both double dip on deadhead, but you should probably be using sharpshot anyway

[timber sparrow]

i dont try to headshot on bows

[vital glade]

the EF-V Jupiter has a shotgun alt fire?

[chrome badge]

so.. ye or ne

[vital glade]

why didn't anyone tell me

this thing....I will make this thing powerful

unless it has an augment mod that's currently unavailable

[pastel temple]

whats to lose

[chrome badge]

a warframe slot ig

[timber sparrow]

except the mutalist cernos cuz thats the only way its good

[pastel temple]

eh so only couple pl

[vital glade]

how many do u want

[chrome badge]

no joel

[vital glade]

WHAT IS YOUR USER

[chrome badge]

the same as this one

ik your user as well

[vital glade]

how many slots do you have

[astral tinsel]

longbow sharpshot is so good though

[vital glade]

wait how

oh right the chat screenshot

[chrome badge]

your screenie top right

[timber sparrow]

i also dont have it

[astral tinsel]

which other arcane will give you 4x dps

[chrome badge]

that too

[pastel temple]

one of the rare buffs that give free separate multiplier

nothing else stacks with sharpshot right

[astral tinsel]

aight fair

[vital glade]

how to get maw fangs

[astral tinsel]

nope

[pastel temple]

control a maw and eat sum fih

[vital glade]

wait are you serious

[chrome badge]

duviri experience, maw fishing

[pastel temple]

dead serious

[chrome badge]

same

[vital glade]

just.....transference into the fish?

[pastel temple]

into the maw yeh

[vital glade]

that sounds

[chrome badge]

theres maw fishing node near bodies of water

[astral tinsel]

there are little round platforms

[vital glade]

incredibly easy

[chrome badge]

you get a boost too

[timber sparrow]

now its electric

but i dont even have high voltage either

[pastel temple]

but lwk id rather get skinned alive than to go to duviri again

[astral tinsel]

tbf, sharpshot and deadhead doubledip are very close for elec status dmg

[timber sparrow]

and i am NOT spending 65p on that mod

[pastel temple]

yes you are

the market compels you

[astral tinsel]

you can go do hive missions

[timber sparrow]

no thanks

[vital glade]

WAIT YOU CAN BE A FISH

[timber sparrow]

20 tries 150 guaranteed

[vital glade]

THAT SOUNDS SO DUMB I LOVE THIS GAME

[chrome badge]

what mod

[floral finch]

am I doing this right so far? still don't quite get modding entirely

[static sphinx]

Does Gauss's augment work similar to Lavos's augment?

[fierce lark]

not quite

valence formation adds % elemental damage in addition to a guaranteed status proc, but has no scaling

thermal transfer is just % elemental damage, and it scales with strength

[static sphinx]

So, it doesn't apply blast/heat/cold status?

[fierce lark]

it can, but it functions like an elemental mod does

[static sphinx]

So, based on weapon status chance?

[fierce lark]

nope

[timber sparrow]

the elusive hammer shot

make blast

[fierce lark]

valence is weird because it does both

it functions like an elemental mod, but it also applies a matching status effect that has normal scaling

[static sphinx]

I was talking about thermal transfer. My bad for not specifying it.

[fierce lark]

thermal transfer does the same thing as other shock trooper type augments

adds the damage as modded elemental damage

[undone dust]

https://tenor.com/view/squeak-yell-prairie-dog-gif-8723954077937677588

[fierce lark]

except its duration doesn’t start counting down until after you leave the sunder area

[astral tinsel]

one difference between these sorts of buffs and mods is that the bonus to status damage they provide is additive to elementalist

[fierce lark]

not according to wiki

[astral tinsel]

did that get changed?

[static sphinx]

Yeah I know. I just can't understand what the status chance of thermal transfer is based on.

I thought that its either based on the weapon status chance, or it is set and can't be changed, or it's based on ability strength.

[fierce lark]

at least for valence, it specifically lists the bonus as being multiplicative with both faction and status damage

[astral tinsel]

yeah valence is weird

[fierce lark]

it doesn’t specify anything for transfer but it does say it’s “treated as a heat mod for the purposes of heat status”

[astral tinsel]

iirc it didn't use to combine even when other buffs did

[astral tinsel]

could be

I have no Gauss to verify

[undone dust]

im manifesting a gauss inside you

behold

https://tenor.com/view/gauss-prime-gauss-warframe-gauss-meme-warframe-meme-gif-13078930774228297629

[dusk cliff]

should i reroll for range or should i keep this?

[fierce lark]

it’s good as is but you could get better

[static sphinx]

Best you can get is those 2 alongside attack speed/range/electricity and harmless negative. I'd continue rolling if you're planning on using Bo.

[dusk cliff]

Fair, i really wanted a good range modifier but i stumbled on this

[undone dust]

elec is for stinky boys, tox is for true men

[fierce lark]

-impact would be a 4th pos

[dusk cliff]

I wanted heat lol

[undone dust]

for what purpose

[static sphinx]

Electricity is objectively better because it's very "influential". Not necessary though.

Depends on build I guess

[fierce lark]

smile

if you’re trying to do slam bo or something weird then you’d want cc cd tox/ic

[undone dust]

guys he said the funny

[dusk cliff]

I was doing an afflictions build

[undone dust]

afflictions!!!

[undone dust]

yeah heat sucks for that

[dusk cliff]

O

[undone dust]

tox is the true method

[dusk cliff]

okay good to know ❤️

[elfin sluice]

seeing how you already have fiber, vitality & intensify thrown on kullervo, you'll have objectively better stats by swapping out regular fiber & intensify for their umbral variants. each umbral mod equipped strengthens all the others.
the rest of the build is wonky, but if you're poor mod-wise, it's alright. would suggest taking a detour to deimos to pick up the local specialties - corrupted mods - to replace a couple items there.

[undone dust]

and with like voruna you can run tox damage shards for cooler and harder explosions

[dusk cliff]

I forgot she likes the bo a lot

[fierce lark]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i wonder if there’s a funny doughty afflictions build you can make with flashing bleed

and ptrauma

[frigid crater]

What do you guys think about the sporothrix?

Im trying to build it with a status build

[fierce lark]

coda sporothrix is great, especially with blast

[undone dust]

why are you a stupid nerd

whats flashing bleed for

[fierce lark]

hemmorhage but as a 4th evo on bo

40% chance on impact procs to slash proc

[undone dust]

you probably could honestly

it might be better on furax slam though

idk if fists have any neutral for lifted or if its just their slams

[frigid crater]

Its pretty crazy

For some reason ocucor was a little letdown for me

Its great with saryn or any Weapon paltformer
But, idk

[valid plaza]

My furax is a gas heavy attack with the buffing next heavy attack arcane. Fun.

[fierce crag]

Is vulkar wraith good for Cetus stealth sniping?

[proven veldt]

Any interesting Korumm builds? i mostly wanna use it for the memes/asthetics/utility from the boreal's augment but i wonder if it can be upgraded to something somewhat fun

[vital glade]

righteo, can anyone help me with building for the prime okinas?

[chrome badge]

#builds-discussion

🙂

[vital glade]

I think you forgot the actual link

clicking on it is doing nothing

[vital glade]

wuh

[chrome badge]

was making a joke

anyways whatchu need help with exactly

[vital glade]

I wanna make a light attack build for my okina incarnons but I've no clue how to build

any suggestions on this?

the....red on the right is discouraging me a bit LOL

[chrome badge]

you have galv mods

[vital glade]

is galv steel better than sacrificial steel

[chrome badge]

yea

[vital glade]

actually? damn

[chrome badge]

crit dmg is generally better thana having raw cc

[vital glade]

fairs

[chrome badge]

both is good but galv steel provides both

[vital glade]

so galv steel instead of sac steel

[chrome badge]

mhm

[vital glade]

don't really know how to do melee influence builds

is it just....electricity?

[proven veldt]

Only when you're constantly using the weapon, cuz if you only pull it out once or twice the stacks won't be there to use, also some weapons just have too little crit chance. Overall most often it is better.

[chrome badge]

me neither, i dont use okinas for midfluence

i opt more for a careening

[vital glade]

careen?

OOO THAT LOOKS LIKE A COOL ARCANE

[proven veldt]

it is a cool arcane

[vital glade]

where can I get it

[proven veldt]

if you know how to use it

[chrome badge]

descendia

[proven veldt]

Roathe

[vital glade]

EASY

[chrome badge]

mhm

[vital glade]

right anymore suggestions?

[chrome badge]

pephaps berserker fury instead of quickening

[vital glade]

how does that work exactly, is it....multiplicative with primed pressure?

[proven veldt]

Personally i don't use it much cuz i don't often care enough, but it works great for both melee and non-melee frames, especially with rolling guard or similar roll based stuff. Even if you aren't hitting enemies with your melee they're still frozen in place and weaker to crits.

[chrome badge]

i uh i dont actually know lemme check

[flint swallow]

Rate my soma build. The riven is 161.2 Cc, 113.4 CD, and 92.4 heat

[proven veldt]

Upgrade ur mods bruh

[flint swallow]

I am broke, I just started steelpath💔

I don’t have Endo or credits

[vital glade]

sell your bronze duplicates

[chrome badge]

seems to be multiplicative

[vital glade]

for endo

[proven veldt]

Dw just go do narmer bounties they drop endo like crazy and aren't as hard as arbis

[vital glade]

that sounds kinda awesome

[flint swallow]

Alr, thanks

[proven veldt]

i got like 20k from narmer bounties in a hour, but i speedran them with titania so you might get less, its still considerable and easy

[chrome badge]

i slap on just heat for my okinas as it gives heat, blast, and cold just from the spectral daggers iirc

[proven veldt]

Btw what weapon type is diwata?

[chrome badge]

archmelee iirc

[proven veldt]

No 100% not, it uses normal melee mods

[chrome badge]

er no dual swords

[proven veldt]

Bro its 1 sword size of a toothpick

[chrome badge]

im misremembering

its just a sword then

[proven veldt]

i felt like it could be a dagger

[chrome badge]

nah

[proven veldt]

but anyway, i know a funny idea for it

[chrome badge]

wot

[proven veldt]

Put all speed mods on it and make it armor strip using status and impact

[chrome badge]

uh mmm no

theres a flaw in that somewhere

[proven veldt]

How

[knotty coral]

does ability duration affect iron skin? (rhino overguard)

[proven veldt]

Shattering impact should work

[proven veldt]

Wiki says no

also the only problem with diwata is that its impact damage sucks but enemy armor is capped now so it doesn't really matter.

[knotty coral]

oh :[
I was thinking it maybe gave it more time to get the overguard
ill take it off then
and ty

[unique brook]

anyone got tips on making this excal umbra build better? (nourish is in place of the 2nd move)

im in the process of forma-ing him and leveling all the mods lol

[proven veldt]

duration affects the 3 other abilities, especially roar, so id keep at least some.

[knotty coral]

i think ill change it
for another mod of 40% armor

[finite sorrel]

My personal idea: try implementing his augment, it negates his passive but gives extra ability strength

[proven veldt]

Take off aegis, replace furious javelin with cat shields to get survivability, but im not sure how good the augment really is so idk.

[proven veldt]

It takes up a mod slot and im not sure if its even exilus or not, if its not exilus might as well just put the augur secrets in its place

[celest sparrow]

should i use galva steel or use both umbra mods?

[proven veldt]

how often do you use that weapon?

Do you use it always like a melee frame or only pull out when ur gun is empty?

[unique brook]

both of the mods in the build are like. the biggest parts of it lol

i ALWAYS use his exalted blade

unless i struggle with energy at least

[unique brook]

theres a third?

[proven veldt]

Then replace rolling guard with catalyzing shields and put arcane circumvent instead of aegis, circumvent doesn't clean status sadly but it can steal overguard which is very nice and is basically status immunity.

[unique brook]

i dont have any arcane mods lol

[proven veldt]

You literally have arcane aegis

Ok tell me have you been to desentia?

[finite sorrel]

Warriors rest. Augment mod for excalibur umbra. Got mine from the Arbiters syndicate

[unique brook]

oh wait shit LMAO i totally forgot about arcanes

i thought you were talking about a mod. ignore that

[proven veldt]

Ok warrior's rest is exilus

if you don't wanna anything better in your exilus slot then you can use it but its still questionable

its more benefitial as "disable the specter umbra mode" than its ability strength buff

[unique brook]

i dont have his second

i put nourish in place of it

[proven veldt]

its an augment for umbra's passive

like you know when you press 5 he goes into an auto battle mode and keeps shooting stuff? its for that

[unique brook]

i dont know that because i dont USE his passive.

i basically ignore my drifter

[proven veldt]

Well basically it disables it

Also drifter is a VERY strong tool

My guy sometimes carries me in SP circuit when i have a particularly bad loadout

[unique brook]

i have had ZERO patience trying to get an amp for them and i dont even have my entire skill tree unlocked, plus i have zero idea of how they even work

[chrome badge]

amps are so necessary

and are easy to get

also same with the focus schools

[proven veldt]

Well not really easy cuz for the xx7 you need the vox solaris

but with narmer bounties that place isn't as hard

focus is boring to farm tho

[civic shore]

is this trumna build good fro zephyr using arcane hotshot , for tornado shooting

[chrome badge]

yeah but little duck is easy to get standing for, granted you have a loot frame to get toroids

[proven veldt]

also tauron strikes give mods for the operator which are MUST HAVE in some high level content like SP cascade

[chrome badge]

circuit gives so much focus bc of the thrax there

[velvet pulsar]

Does the alt fire have more CC than primary fire?

[unique brook]

i dont

[civic shore]

it becomes same when shot at tornado

[proven veldt]

Daily cap is what bothers me, i can reach it in a hour

[chrome badge]

oh yeah true

[proven veldt]

Then it will just take a little longer. You need like..

[unique brook]

i havent touched my drifter besides fashioning and slowly unlocking the focus tree

[chrome badge]

eidolons are not efficient or fun enough to farm just to bypass it

[unique brook]

do you NOT get amp parts from the quills anymore??

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah that's negative interaction.

Alt fire will deal lesser CC than intended because of Zephyr

[chrome badge]

yeah but only the prism and bracket

[proven veldt]

You need 2 of every common toroid to rank vox solaris to rank 4

and 1 of the profit taker toroid for rank 5

[chrome badge]

or whichever is the primary fire and secondary fire for amps

[proven veldt]

but rank 5 isn't needed for best amp

[proven veldt]

Not all of them, only the quill parts

kinda like how solaris sell solaris kitgun parts but not deimos kitgun parts

[snow kite]

guys my friend just send me this, what do i tell him?

[civic shore]

some one told me if i remeber correctly when shot at tornado the alt fire has same cc and sc as primary on tornadoes, so it scales to enemies accordingly trapped inside it

[velvet pulsar]

Exactly

[unique brook]

this is currently my skill tree for zenurik

[proven veldt]

Tell him that slash got nerfed 2 years ago

[velvet pulsar]

(not sure about SC)

[civic shore]

basically if i have sc very low my tornadoes will still catch fire if heat is dominant

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah, so trumna performs worse than intended

[proven veldt]

You don't really need ur skill tree for anything, its good to have but not required. The only must have skills are waybounds that can be made into constant effects no matter the choosen school

[velvet pulsar]

Alt fire has more stats by default

[civic shore]

i dont understand

[velvet pulsar]

Alt Fire inherits the primary fire CC (& probably SC)

Alt fire by default has more CC & SC than primary fire

[snow kite]

friend send me a uptaded build, thougths?

[civic shore]

yeah i plan to only use alt fire on tornadoes for nuking paired with funnel clouds so i dont need to charge it just spam it , i was hoping to improve it with arcane hotshot since tornadoes will proc it

it gets charged immediately

[velvet pulsar]

I hope you haven't subsumed over 1

[civic shore]

i didnt i dont like subsume on zephyr

[proven veldt]

Bro tell the guy that slash got nerfed and hunter munitions aren't good anymore

[velvet pulsar]

Or atleast, when u alt fire, I hope u stay in air

[proven veldt]

also where's the crit damage mod

[civic shore]

for cc right

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[civic shore]

is my build fine??

[snow kite]

he doesnt have space for it rn, he needs some forma

[proven veldt]

i know the feeling

[velvet pulsar]

Alt fire build shouldn't use galvanized aptitude or scope

[brittle sleet]

Crit damage has the same capacity cost as Hunter Munitions

Just replace HM

[snow kite]

good idea

that will help the damage

[velvet pulsar]

AoE is not affected by Galvanized aptitude damage boost

And scope procs from headshots, how will u do that on alt fire spam?

[civic shore]

i mean i would still wanna use primary

[brittle sleet]

I hope that riven has damage on it because merciless isn't the most consistent buff on Braton Prime and GApt isn't gonna buff it proportionately

[proven veldt]

Ngl i only use merciless for reload

[velvet pulsar]

Aight then

[brittle sleet]

Good

[snow kite]

what damage?

[brittle sleet]

Damage, the stat, base damage

It'll literally say +x% damage

[velvet pulsar]

There are also some archguns which benefit the instant alt fire charging, you might wanna try some.

[civic shore]

sporelacer i saw in that clip , i dont know how to build that

[velvet pulsar]

Sporelacer is a kitgun

And it doesn't have alt fire mechanic

[civic shore]

damn , i think both has to be from fortuna? i ahvent done a lot of bounties , is it tied to lvl 5?

[velvet pulsar]

Both?

I don't think sporelacer is tied to rank 5

Also by the time you'll make an ideal sporelacer, we'll get Stug incarnon which has basically the same firing mode.

But it'll have more AoE and definitely would perform better.

[civic shore]

can u suggest me some more weapons, please, how would latron work?

[velvet pulsar]

Latron could work very well with Double Tap mod.

[civic shore]

can u elaborate please

[velvet pulsar]

Double Tap is it's exclusive mod.

Available from Nightwave shop sometimes

[late ice]

Is praedos viable for solo lv cap void cascade as the main dps carry when used by kullervo?

[civic shore]

can u like give some general idea how it would work with tornadoes,

[mighty flare]

viable, mid as hell
kullervo would carry

[late ice]

Cool

[velvet pulsar]

Normally Latron incarnon has limitation with Double Tap where it only procs on AoE and doesn't manage to reach 20 stacks easily.

However when shooting at tornadoes, the damage credit will make tornadoes proc Double Tap and just some shots will be enough to max out the stacks.

Each stack increases damage multiplicatively.

[civic shore]

this is my current build where should i put double tap

[velvet pulsar]

Shred

Punch Through works weirdly with AoEs

[civic shore]

damn that mod expensive as hell

[civic shore]

so i shoot heads build up incarnon , and thenshoot balls into tornado?,also shall i make the non incarnon with heat

[civic shore]

also double tap procs on incarnon aswell as non incarnon right?, so i can shoot the non incarnon into tornadoes aswell?

[toxic latch]

Does anyone have any recommendations for a late game build for evensong? I don’t typically use bows but this one has kind of a unique passive and was thinking maybe I’d try it out

[velvet pulsar]

They separately stack

Works on both forms, but let's say if u stacked upto 15× in incarnoff, then transformed into incarnon, it'll go to 0. Then u stack 10× in incarnon, and go back to incarnoff, you'll return to 15×.

I gotta go

Goodnight from this side of the globe.

[polar knoll]

guys should i replace prime continuity with transient fortitude for nuke build or duration is important for this?

[civic shore]

goodnight and ty

[outer jewel]

does anyone have a good mirage build for level cap

im trying to figure out how to build her

[static sphinx]

Is any weapon that Baro currently selling actually good?

[slender summit]

Or from... Conclave

I do need a Latron Prime build though

Is this any good? (Vital Sense rather than the Riven)

[spice willow]

how good are the twin rogga and marelok with cyte?

[balmy zinc]

I need that Normal Excalibur Build. High damage and long ability duration

or umbra

once i get him

[south solstice]

Lemme find my build rq

It’s simple for Normal / umbra but it’s easy enough to get going

[balmy zinc]

Ty

[south solstice]

Duration you don’t really need imo. It’s more strength & cost

Do you have any Excal specific mods or do you want full base kit?

[valid plaza]

Speaking of Excalibur, how survive with the sword boy? Feels like there's a lot I need to do just to not be dead in seconds.

My metric is SP Circuit by the time they reach lv 2000s

[versed harbor]

shield gate frame sadly

just gotta kill quick and you have cc from radial blind aswell

hes got no other built in survivability

[valid plaza]

Then why tf you have three umbra polarities?

[versed harbor]

cuz de thinks triumbral is good basically

u can just use regular excal itll take roughly the same amount of formas

[valid plaza]

That's it. I'm getting me Omamori subsume

[versed harbor]

fair

[valid plaza]

Had it coming anyway

[south solstice]

See I play him as a tanky esk frame yoi just gotta be careful with

With unbral mods (I’m a scum I use all 3) and that one arcane that makes health orbs give more health I find him very fun

[valid plaza]

Blessing

[south solstice]

Bit of rolling guard incase you desperately need it but it’s definitely useable if you get used to it

[south solstice]

That one yeah

However I do see the main use in making him a shield frame, definitely depends on how you play him imo

I’m a sucker for health over shield

[versed harbor]

as long as ur okay with it not scaling very far then you can use it

and it costing you more mod slots/arcane slots

[south solstice]

Tbh I play a lot more health tank frames and builds now

[valid plaza]

Tri umbra, adaptation, blind rage, Flow, chromatic blade, flex slot for this last one.

Arcanes grace and blessing? Maybe guardian? Or reaper, even?

[south solstice]

It’s that itch of being a big health bar that’s got me loving hp frames

[balmy zinc]

wheres the pic

[south solstice]

Flex a lot you could use focus jav augment, each person hit gives you ability strength

[versed harbor]

need a way to get energy also grace is rly slow tbh if you desperately want regen do arcane reaper or mod ur exalted for it

[versed harbor]

or use gloom ig

[slender summit]

We talking Excalibur? I lowk want a build for my goat

[valid plaza]

Thing is, my most used build subsumed out exalted blade for the weirdest radiant finish build.

[south solstice]

It be taking years to upload, mainly go for
health / shield depending on preference
Range
Streamline for cost of cast
Intensify for strength

Early game just play about see what you like for base excal, I found that for base star chart umbra just kinda walks through it nicely without too much modding, umbral mods + blind rage and chromatic blade kinda just works

[old charm]

Did somebody say Excalibur?

[south solstice]

He’s very simple to mod for imo, Onw do the ones I like to mess with diff builds. I’ve played exulted focused, slash dash focused made him a strange gun buff with volt subsumed 🤔

[valid plaza]

This is currently asscheeks. Gonna work on it after my exams

By the way, I'm using radiant finish with Marked For Death on 4. Room nukes with one finisher is lolz

[south solstice]

I need to re make him with wrathful over 1st

[old charm]

https://youtu.be/ZBAAzmw7wXs?si=OK3I6zByRNKatVvW

[slender summit]

Oh jolly good!

[old charm]

You don’t need much to make Excalibur do level cap damage, obviously scales well in regular SP content

Just knowing how melee afflictions’ works on Exalted Blade

[south solstice]

Interesting

I gotta try that, and lvl cap I wanna stress test something funny

I made the very strange GL/Shotgun thing from 1999 do good damage and I’m interested in what it’ll do to lvl 9999

[old charm]

I’ve been subsuming radial blind onto howl when I play Umbra just to prove a point 😄

[valid plaza]

The point being?

[old charm]

Don’t need a subsume on the build

[south solstice]

Putting nix’s 1st over blind to be funny

[old charm]

Also, it feels weird using radial howl, im far used to the animation of blind. Howl still confuses me

[cinder burrow]

Guys i have a question, can the riven disposition get lower with new updates? Cause i don’t know what to use if magistar or sancti since normal magistar have better riven dispo

[old charm]

I haven’t seen them lower riven dispos in forever, if they ever have

[quiet laurel]

DE doesnt lower dispo

[valid plaza]

Listen. The sancti is good for melee attacking, heavy or otherwise.

The regular one is for slamming

That's all there is to the two

[old charm]

They were going to do it for incarnon weapons then waited too long and people got too invested for them to do it

[cinder burrow]

I like slam build and i have a riven for the magistar, should i play the normal one then? And get the incarnon for it?

[old charm]

Regular magistar was better before techrot encore, now I’d say the special effect of sancti having healing and status immunity is too useful to not use

[valid plaza]

Why are you still asking if all those factors are true for you?

Go get your loot

[quiet laurel]

sancti for persistence, normal for anything else

[valid plaza]

I use sancti bcs my Sibear does my slamming.

[cinder burrow]

Cause i don’t want to use the incarnon adapter on weekly reset on the wrong magistar

[old charm]

You can also do what I did and just have the incarnon on both versions

[valid plaza]

You can take them off

It just takes the same amount of resourses to put it on something else

[cinder burrow]

Really?

[finite lintel]

Is Any excavation arb good or no

[valid plaza]

Uh huh. I took off mine from the normal to the Sancti

[cinder burrow]

Nice, thanks then guys

Btw, i’m using lavos with the magistar for now, better gas affliction or elec influence?

[valid plaza]

Influence is the brainded good answer.

Gas is my choice.

[quiet laurel]

magistar influence not good since influence doesnt get procced if you one shot the enemy

[cinder burrow]

Should i change something in this build? The riven have cc cd sc -damage to corpus but i’m trying rerolling it

[quiet laurel]

sac steel better than galv steel

go organ shatter instead of corrupt charge

[valid plaza]

No need lasting sting. You're aiming to one slam them.

[quiet laurel]

I assume this is for gas so lasting sting is good

[cinder burrow]

Yeah

[valid plaza]

But it's toxin

[quiet laurel]

lavos

[valid plaza]

Oh, right.

Wait. Your Lavos gives you status duration

You again wouldn't be needing it, if you're Lavos has duration mods

[quiet laurel]

more status duration means better coverage

you'd ideally also want sd on the riv

[cinder burrow]

Yes i have like 300% duration plus

[valid plaza]

If gas is our game, where elementalist?

[cinder burrow]

Idk i’m not so good with builds

[valid plaza]

Elementalist increases gas cloud damage, so you might want to try that out.

In incarnon mode giving crit multiplier buff, on top of reflex, one could attempt blood rush also

[quiet laurel]

nah dont have the mod space

also you wont be getting to 12x so you cant even get the best value out of it

you get 440% cc from sac steel already anyway

also can slot elementalist instead of pfs

[cinder burrow]

This is my loadout too, i’m playing persistence lavos

[valid plaza]

You mean 220, right? 275 with set

[quiet laurel]

yeah probs mixed it up with br

[valid plaza]

If you're priming, you should use condition overload

[quiet laurel]

do not the condition overload on a slam weapon 😭

[cinder burrow]

I just use kompressa when there is like a mini boss/boss that i can’t kill with just a slam

[cinder burrow]

So guys, what should i replace/change?

[valid plaza]

Yes the condiload if enemies are being Primed. Or you're in squad with someone spreading status everywhere like herpes

[quiet laurel]

CO doesnt even work on the slam AoE

[valid plaza]

Corrupt charge only if at all

[old charm]

Unnecessary compared to just more upfront damage

[valid plaza]

It's QoL for getting your incarnon buff, but if you don't mind the effort of getting a few hits and kills, swap it out for crit damage

[valid plaza]

I didn't know slam attacks didn't get the +damage of CO on statused enemies

[old charm]

I don’t find CO worth it in most scenarios

[formal tusk]

I summon the almighty nerds, for a thalys build

(also is co additive or multiplicative on it?)

[quiet laurel]

CO only works on direct projectile/melee hits

[valid plaza]

The only way to know is to see the expansive list in the wiki. I hate it and I ignore it

[formal tusk]

It doesnt exist

[quiet laurel]

additive

[old charm]

The wiki is also regularly wrong

[quiet laurel]

rule of thumb is projectile multi, hit scan additive

in normal melee swing cases its just additive

[formal tusk]

So CO is not abusable on a thalys

[quiet laurel]

of course it is cause its still an insane base dmg boost

[formal tusk]

So i should slap CO instead of ppp?

[valid plaza]

Only if consistently hitting more than 3 statuses

[valid plaza]

Heavy attacks?

[quiet laurel]

if its a direct melee hit its additive, if the heavy attack spawns a projectile then that projectile will very likely be multi

[violet silo]

impact
puncture
slash

[valid plaza]

So... corufell? And what about gun blades? Is there a video that covers all this?

[valid plaza]

Are the enemies you're gonna hit with the Thalys going to have IPS status procs on them

[quiet laurel]

thalys doesnt have impact but still CO is better

[quiet laurel]

dunno, but corufell is indeed multi CO

gun blades are additive except stropha I think

[valid plaza]

Gee... I'll just stick to ppp for the time being. I don't need THAT much damage for now.

[quiet laurel]

nvm stropha is additive, odd one out

[valid plaza]

Nor do I think to deal with add/multi CO relations

[quiet laurel]

multi CO is very fun

makes more weapons fun to play at lvl cap

[violet silo]

so puncture, slash, whatever modded element, and whatever your primer is running

[quiet laurel]

yeah

I mean companion primer is very easy nowadays so CO is almost always better

god I wish secondaries and primaries also had melee CO

but no they have to have conditional CO

so your damage is gonzo when you lose stacks

[cinder burrow]

Is it better with elementalist? Or no

[balmy zinc]

Does anyone have a build for the katana syam?

[fierce lark]

what status are you buffing?

[split thunder]

anyone have a good build for gauss

[quiet laurel]

he is running gas lavos

[fierce lark]

ah

then yes

[violet silo]

gun, melee, or nuke

[slender summit]

Send us a nuke build if you could?

[slender summit]

Thank you

[slender summit]

Where does Cunning Drift come from?

[violet silo]

lua puzzle.

it should be a room with four pillars in the middle and two pipes on either side, you have to shoot the pipes

then it spawns a guardian eye and you have to do the thing from the war within

I think its the war within

[slender summit]

Gah crap

[violet silo]

not my ss

room looks like dat doe

[elfin sluice]

four pillars, shoot the valves on the water pipes(opposite of each other in the room) to summon a miniboss.

[proud rover]

Do u need steal path or unlock follie (im new and done all the main quest i have 5 days of play time )

[elfin sluice]

to defeat the miniboss, have it shoot the pillars

[deep grotto]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/1teuzyn/furis_blast_build_below/

I feel like i would yell "FURIS BLAST" whenever i used this

https://tenor.com/view/biden-blast-joe-biden-biden-blast-gif-6547929686164862695

[foggy mason]

anyone got advice for rhino's #1? It just feels... bleh. Too long to activate, not that much of a gap closer, ect.
The obvious thing is to replace it with kelemvor's 1 but I'd rather not use that as a fix-everything :p

I know there's the augmentation to boost armour (which boosts his ironskin since it scales off armour) but... eh?

[elfin sluice]

rhino benefits from having a casting speed shard or two.

[foggy mason]

Oh yeah, I've given him two tauforged suppositories for it but I can't shake that nagging feeling that they'd be better as something else (like, say, armour for his 2 to scale off reliably)

[elfin sluice]

and that armor bonus soars to ridiculous heights if you lean into it, making rhino a very good health tank

[mighty nexus]

Can anyone recommend me a gyre prime build for sp i barely getting by past lvl 165 its like im ticking them

[versed harbor]

u usually replace it or use the augment for big iron skins ye, its a multiplier to ur armor so its rly cracked

[full topaz]

I’m conflicted about Galvanized Steel on my Gram Prime.

[mighty flare]

struggling with damage and survivabliity or just damage? gyre better off as a weapon platformer

[mighty nexus]

Just damage i cam survive quite well

So I need to pair gyre with a good primary?

[mighty flare]

any weapon type will carry gyre, yea, make sure to use her 1 augment, heres a list: #1477881092093640827 message

[mighty nexus]

Thankssss

[mighty flare]

for which? or nothing in particular

[chrome badge]

larkspur is a fav

chain beam ghostbuster kinda gun

https://tenor.com/view/proton-pack-gif-5440331234983656012

[novel bear]

For archwing missions larkspur is definitely my recommendation

[fierce lark]

larkspur just got a lot better too, i think

adding primed combustion rounds this last baro

[mighty flare]

put the new primed combustion in here then, have either of the fire rate mods

[prime scarab]

Okay Yareli gets her loadout slot back, loyal merulina is pretty good

That means someone else gets deleted when caliban and lavos are done. Prooooobably gonna be Citrine....

[old nimbus]

hey guys, i feel like im not getting any more powerful. im running volt with the dual skana which has pressure point max lvl for +120% melee dmg and fury lvl 5 for +30% attack speed. the issue is i feel like before i wa getting stronger at the same rate as the enemies or even faster but now ive slowed down and the enemies havent, ive tried a few different weapons but i prefer the dual skana for high speed and damage (i used to use the regular skana). any ideas what i can upgrade?

also i have 7 capacity left and no stance cause i cant find any

[chrome badge]

what planet are you at

[viscid bane]

Is this slottable if I run canonade?

[old charm]

Cannonade is always an option on weapons you can put it on

[opal leaf]

May I ask? Why is it called "Cookie Cutter"?

[viscid bane]

Cookie cutter means "generic"

[chrome badge]

yes bc the -neg will be neg-ated

[old nimbus]

just finished the saturn junction

[opal leaf]

Ahhh....

Explain please

[chrome badge]

Cookie Cutters cut the shapes into cookie dough, creating identical cookies

[viscid bane]

You know those cookie cutter things that you use to make all your cookies look the same?

It's bascially and english saying that means something that's always the same or generic

[chrome badge]

the shape presses the shape into a pressed shape

[opal leaf]

I see

Now what makes them applied to builds?

Just the same builds?

[viscid bane]

Yea

Just like influence builds are the same across every melee

[chrome badge]

midfluence

but yes its just copy and pasting the same mods onto builds

bc the mods are generally improvements regardless of what weapon theyre on

[river flame]

can someone dm me goooood mirage weapon build

[viscid bane]

Build that focuses on keepeing up her 1 and 3

[opal leaf]

I see

[opal leaf]

Ohhh OK, understandable

Gotta write that down

[viscid bane]

English is weird

Sometimes it feels like its deliberately made to screw with the foreigners who learn language for the first time

[chrome badge]

well thats bc english isnt a language

its just a bunch of other languages mashed together

[viscid bane]

perfect example

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Q1A5A8Xe22s

[mighty flare]

Similar to calling something a Template, it's meant to be a standardized format that can be replicated with only slight adjustments per scenario (per weapon in warframes case)

[opal leaf]

Oh, like the non niche builds in most (yeah, most) weapons?

[mighty flare]

close enough yea

[river flame]

f i use total eclipse on mirage does my clones benefit from it

[opal leaf]

Fair enough

[opal leaf]

Yes

[chrome badge]

yep bc that works

make sure your range is good enough for total eclipse to encompass the clones

[river flame]

what other must have mods for mirage

[viscid bane]

34% range is enough for the clones

[viscid bane]

augment for 1 and 3, there's another build that uses her 4 with augment

[queen jacinth]

where can i get growing power mod? im kinda new trying to get a volt build

[frozen holly]

i might have a spare

[viscid bane]

Find a Silver Grove tile on earth and use Nightfall Apotic in it

[queen jacinth]

Nightfall apotic?

[viscid bane]

You need to complete Silver Grove quset to get the blueprint

it's a thing that summons a specter that you have to kill

[queen jacinth]

ooo alright I dont think i have acces to that one yet

[spice willow]

how good are the twin rogga and marelok with cyte?

[river flame]

wdym by this

[mighty flare]

yes

[viscid bane]

Hall of Malevolence and Total Eclipse are augment for her 1st and 3rd ability. There's another build that focuses on her 4th ability using augment called Prism Guard

[river flame]

naaaa idc about the ult its based on just weapon dmg

and survival

[viscid bane]

I posted this above

As I said it's using augments for 1 and 3

[frozen holly]

hows this build in steal path?

[viscid bane]

Shreds everything

[fierce crag]

Is nikana prime good for sp or is there a better alternitive?