builds-discussion

[blazing quiver]

much worse aka like should be penitentiary measure instead of being labeled as game

[livid pollen]

Quick question from a baby Tenno, looking to make a melee cold build. Idk if that's good or not, my builds aren't meant to be meta, but mostly cosplays lol.

It's just that I've seen people doing like millions of damage, but when I see the mods they don't look all that different than what I have. Granted I don't have all the best/maxed out mods cause I've only been playing for about a month, but I'm feeling like my damage(around 750) is starting to be a little lacking.

Granted most of my damage comes from my abilities, but in the scenarios where abilities are disabled it's nice to have a back up lol.
-# also side note, are there other pistol amps like the Siricco? I hated playing as the Tenno before getting that lol

[old marsh]

what is your question lol

[livid pollen]

Oh I'm dumb lol. Got caught up in the context I forgot to even ask

I'm basically looking for some good melee mods. Like are there any that really stand out as must haves? Atm I really only have stuff like pressure point and Sacrificial Steel and a few other crit mods.

[warm obsidian]

Corrosive or Viral for Akarius

[old marsh]

blood rush, weeping wounds, galvanized steel, (primed) pressure point, (primed) reach and (primed) fury

and for influence builds, shocking touch

[livid pollen]

I'm still annoyed about the primed mods lol. The first time in my playing the game Baro shows up, and it's the only relay I can't enter

[livid pollen]

Oooh I've not heard of some of those. Time for some googling

[old marsh]

viral

[livid pollen]

Wait am I dumb or is Galvanized Steel worse than Sacrificial Steel? Max 110% vs 220%

[granite ginkgo]

gal steel have passive stack that increase dmg per status enemy have

[warm obsidian]

It's all in the bonus

[lilac robin]

galvanized steel my beloved! ❤️

[warm obsidian]

Galv Steel + Blood Rush is already enough to reach Red crits

[granite ginkgo]

while sacrificial can increase the base stat w another sacrifical, but the passive only limited to setient faction

[old marsh]

crit dmg

[livid pollen]

Ooooh I completely missed that. Wicked sick.

[inner raptor]

sac steel is also good for heavy dun forget

[old marsh]

and given blood rush can give u 440%, SS is worse and needs an Umbra

[inner raptor]

but obligatory fk sac mods garbage ass polarity

[warm obsidian]

Would be nice if Omni affects umbra

Even if its just 1/3 the cost

Like putting a maxed Umbra Mod on Omni polarity lowers it's cost to 10/11

[livid pollen]

Thanks for the help yall

[lilac robin]

All the best!

[forest minnow]

would galvanized savvy be preferable over rifle elementalist here?

riven is multishot, heat, mag capacity, but higher recoil (doesn't bother me)

[gleaming vapor]

prob not

since strun incarnon is like full aoe iirc

[versed harbor]

ye

[forest minnow]

fair enough

[boreal turtle]

Anyone have nuke steel path defence missions build for nova

[granite ginkgo]

using 1st skill augment and get priming pet, huras is good pair for more survivalbility

[boreal turtle]

I have nuke build but it only works in normal mode

[granite ginkgo]

mind share? might u lack the arcane

this build only work for 500 lvl or lower
https://overframe.gg/build/442240/nova-prime/antimatter-annihilation-pure-ability-nuke-nova/

[crimson cedar]

The build i use for Nova SP. Corrosive projection as Aura

1-2 cast speed shards, 4-3 duration shards

nourrish infusion on her 3, it's apply to her 1

arcanes arachne & concentration

use Huras kubrow to stay invisible moslty all of the time

[opal leaf]

Adaptation is not needed, replace it with Molecular... Smth 4th skill Aug

[crimson cedar]

sometimes it helps, but yep

too mutch str, more duration to make more orbs/spreading her 4

don't forget Molecular prime can apply some weapon's passive, like acid shell or devouring attrition from Zariman Weapons (if you kill with that weapon) it helps

[boreal turtle]

Can i use arcon shards for duration

[granite ginkgo]

what ur standard combo cast?
activate 4th, cast 1 and repeat?

[boreal turtle]

1,4

[granite ginkgo]

do u got nourish subsume? it add viral proc to neutron star hit

[crimson cedar]

and damages too*

[granite ginkgo]

you can subsume those to 2nd or 3rd skill

[crimson cedar]

👀

[boreal turtle]

N

[granite ginkgo]

and w this augment u get another survivalbility

[crimson cedar]

lol, no

you cant eat ennemies, so you cant have that passive effect

[granite ginkgo]

well u only get 5 sec, doesnt work on allies tho

[boreal turtle]

I can get this today

[boreal turtle]

Noted

[crimson cedar]

1 slot lost, you cant have the effet of the augment mod.

[boreal turtle]

Do I need to change anything

[granite ginkgo]

either way

1. nourish is extra priming, viral proc make direct hit to hp bar
2. doesnt need the nourish augment entirely, u can bring huras or shade pet for another survivability

[granite ginkgo]

avenger proc to some abilites tho, so might change to hot shot for ur weapons dmg

[crimson cedar]

you can only have the cleanse effect of the augment (still nice) but not the status immunity for 5s (& for allies), cuz yo uhave 0 ennemies in your belly

[granite ginkgo]

arcane crepscular work on nova 1st skill, but u need huras invisibility stealt precept or shade

[opal leaf]

Ya her 1 acts as a weapon, so nourish works

[crimson cedar]

thats exactly what i say

[crimson cedar]

you have to trigger avenger, when invisible, you have to self harm yourself with that specific aura

[boreal turtle]

Sounds like huge pain

[granite ginkgo]

arcane crepscular to swap w arcane avenger dude, u tell in reverse

dont make misinformation

[granite ginkgo]

he confused,

[crimson cedar]

well u only get 5 sec, doesnt work on allies tho
funny

[granite ginkgo]

did u try it?

[boreal turtle]

So what should my mod slots look like

[crimson cedar]

5s per ennemy in the belly; how did you eat them ?
5s x duration x ... 0 ennemies = 0 ?
the cleanse seems working with no ennemies, still a good move

[granite ginkgo]

just follow @crimson cedar build, it work also

[crimson cedar]

As Warframes other than Grendel are unable to Feast to have enemies in their stomachs, neither the removal of Status Effects nor the status immunity are applied, rendering this augment useless on Warframes infused with Nourish.
(wiki)

sad the cleanse dosen't work

[versed harbor]

evil rolling guard

[crimson cedar]

if you're invisible, you won't take any damage/procs ( exept that nasty tox eximus hidden 😄 )

[boreal turtle]

Ok guys can u give me list of mods i need with nourish build👍

[crimson cedar]

#builds-discussion message

you can replace adapation with rolling guard, if you can be invisible (huras, shade)

[hot herald]

anyone have a Furax Incarnon build?

[versed harbor]

https://overframe.gg/build/465849/furax-wraith/thunder-punch-electric-influence-nuke-furax-wraith/

[hot herald]

ty

[boreal turtle]

What about aura mod

[crimson cedar]

Corrosive projection

[boreal turtle]

Where can i get that

[crimson cedar]

nightwave shop

how the hell you reach SP and don't have basic aura 😭

[boreal turtle]

Sorry my bad I thought I don’t have one🥲🙂

[boreal turtle]

And arcane

[crimson cedar]

depends the arcane.
Arcane Arachne, you'll have to farm Eidolons, OR with the actual event (Jade mission)
Arcane Concentration, Roathe Shop in the Cathedral

[uneven halo]

should i take shield or hp/armor for vauban survivability?

[crimson cedar]

neither ; use invisibility (huras/shade)

[opal leaf]

No

Use lazy shield gate

[opal leaf]

No too as he is a semi stationary semi caster

The point of his gameplay is to spam abilities and shoot

[crimson cedar]

works well with my vauban nuke orbital shot/ hydroid infusion, but specific to stationary use

[opal leaf]

Ah that's not the way I use him

[crimson cedar]

shielgating/lazy gate works fine for Vauban yes

[opal leaf]

Yeah bc... Idk, I've Been using Vauban for a long while

[pseudo forum]

does anyone know a good voruna build?

[uneven halo]

why lazy and i should use catalismic shields and arcane aegis or something more?

whats difference between shield gate and lazy gate?

[opal leaf]

Yes

Fast Deflection, Vigilante Vigor and Catalysing Shields

[uneven halo]

whats funny?

[crimson cedar]

" catalismic "

[uneven halo]

oh now i noticed this

[opal leaf]

Shield gate has two ways

Active - use only two mods (Brief Respite/Augur Mods AND Catalysing Shield)

Lazy - Fast Deflection + Vigilante Vigor and Catalysing Shields (Arcane Aegis for additional survivability)

[uneven halo]

didnt expected this emote

[crimson cedar]

Kubrow Raksa helps for lazygate too

(and he can nuke by himself ennemies)

[uneven halo]

then i preffer the lazy one

[crimson cedar]

specially if you group them with vortex (close to the ground)

[uneven halo]

ok good to know

thx for help

[crimson cedar]

My Raksa kubrow's damages, imagine the elec proc on close ennemies 😏
My Huras make a little less damages

[uneven halo]

radiation and electricity?

[opal leaf]

Wait till you get Sunika

[crimson cedar]

Raksa for lazygate, Huras for invisibility, they can nuke but it's just a bonus, i don't count on them to kill

[crimson cedar]

yep, the radiation claw mod add crit damage

[uneven halo]

right i forgot about that

[oblique junco]

trying to get umbral forma for my valkyr is makin me wanna scream

[uneven halo]

is this good?

[crimson cedar]

too much viral weight but it's fine

[hard sequoia]

Sigmas im planing to helminth my titania , what yall recommend?

[crimson cedar]

xata on her

(depend of the use btw)

gauss infusion for fast clear missions
xata to dps (with blast/tox(+corrosive procs))

[hard sequoia]

I was thinking about nourish

[versed harbor]

nourish is okay but titania energy economy is pretty comfy already and the viral dmg isnt as good as xatas for blast tox dex pixia

try nourish if ur having energy problems probably

[charred gale]

xatas cause u wanna build blast on her pixias for aoe

just having equilibrium should be fine for energy economy

[velvet pulsar]

Titania already gets 80 energy per energy orb:
https://youtu.be/sVEKd_mjmkU?si=cQBLSLodNronDdTj

[hard sequoia]

Welp i still dont have xata🫩

[velvet pulsar]

Put this on the exilus of both Dex Pixia & regular pistol for double dipping.

[crimson cedar]

Welcome to WARFARM 🤝

[hard sequoia]

🫩

Until i get xata can i just use roar or nourish

Or breach surge like if thats gonna work

[versed harbor]

out of those probably roar ye

[uneven halo]

I knew it

[deep grotto]

There were some in the elite missions for the Dex event lmao
And there should be one in the current nightwave track…

Cool pfp btw

[warm obsidian]

Is there a cap for efficiency on Loyal Merulina?

[queen sandal]

What mods should I use on my stalker prime

[frigid crater]

Im thinking about putting narrow minded on my Nova

But i currently dont know If i should get rid of stretch for it

[deep grotto]

Doesn’t she want range?

[frigid crater]

She wants duration mostly

But also range for neutron star

[opal leaf]

Stalker prime?

[latent adder]

175

[frigid crater]

Maybe narrow minded isnt necessary because of arcane concentration

Either i get rid of archon vitality for It or sacrifice my range

Which isnt that bad, i dont think my build relies so much on my neutron star nuking

I should switch my roar for something else

[opal leaf]

Can we go past it?

Or is there a way?

[formal glade]

got myself a 980% secondary damage is that good?

[frigid crater]

Pretty good

[opal leaf]

Good

[true hound]

thoughts?

[deep grotto]

Usually a “cap” means that there’s no difference once you raise the stat high enough

Not a “we don’t have enough stuff to raise it higher” type of cap

[opal leaf]

Dammitttttt I wanna go past 200 efficiency

On Merulina so she goes boom boom fast

[latent adder]

For channelled abilities yes

[opal leaf]

Oh?

[latent adder]

But not for regular stuff

[crimson cedar]

add duration to lower the drain/s after hit the efficiency cap

[latent adder]

For channelled abilities hitting 205 efficiency while duration 13% gives minimum drain

[crimson cedar]

Ah yes, the drain don't have the 175% cap, you can go negative duration. I'm not used to

[latent adder]

Theres an efficiency cut off for certain ranges of duration eg 190% efficiency for 40 to 100 dur

175 efficiency for 100 to 166 dur

[opal leaf]

Ohhh

Damn how do you guys find these ones hahahah

[old marsh]

magic

[opal leaf]

I don't buy that hahahah

[crimson cedar]

testing things, learn how the game works 🤷🏻‍♂️

check wiki for formulas, and do some maths behind

[old marsh]

nuh uh. u stare at Styanax's Abs and u will get the answers

[crimson cedar]

-# (still prefer Gym Mommy)

[old marsh]

combine all efficiency mods along with duration mods. see how changing one affects your drain

[plain widget]

Yeah pretty much this for all channeled abilitys

[opal leaf]

Why is it called Channeled tho?

[old marsh]

ask Rebecca Ford or Steve

[crimson cedar]

some ppl here remember " channeled melee " 👀 👴🏻

[opal leaf]

<~>

[robust citrus]

just asking if this two are good or not

[old marsh]

both r good.

for both u want crit dmg over anything else.

[warm obsidian]

This any good?

[old marsh]

Vulkok isnt a popular sentinel weapon choice.

[wary forge]

Both are terrible

[knotty shadow]

best buils for volt? am new

[crimson cedar]

where are you actually in your progression/quest/planet ?

you may not access to "bests" mods for him

[mystic swan]

Whats the best build for praedos? Tryna run it with uriel

[crimson cedar]

what means "best", it's a nonsense

depends of situation, preferences

[mystic swan]

Something i can use for generally everything, i like big red crits

[livid quartz]

What's a secondary weapon that performs decent in steel path that I can use both augur mods on? I know you can put those mods on sentinel weapons but i prefer to use a companion for the retriever mods!

[crimson cedar]

depends if you want to play light attacks/combo or heavy attacks

[mystic swan]

Light attacks

[crimson cedar]

arcane Melee influence ; you can change reach for an antifaction mod (triple dip on the arcane effect)

[opal leaf]

I mean you can use an Augur Mod as a flex

We have Dual Toxo and Furis

Well I'd recommend Furis

[valid plaza]

Talk to me about this

[crimson cedar]

nice r'cist mod 😄

[opal leaf]

It'll be the best for everything fr hahaha

[valid plaza]

Do I become the race enthusiast?

Or keep my multishot cd punch one?

[opal leaf]

Obv keep the multi cd

[valid plaza]

The omni-racism seems like a good damage bump, tho...

[opal leaf]

It may be a meme riven but we go to the good one

[valid plaza]

They're both good tho?

[crimson cedar]

the previous is fine, the omni-racist is nice (for the collection)

[opal leaf]

Ehhh it's... Aight

I'd rather pick... Hold on

@solar reef sorry for this ping

But if a riven hits all main races (maybe a 1.4x corpus and 1.4x grineer, etc etc.) is it... Useful? A multi faction mod

[crimson cedar]

No

you prefer a x1.55 specific antifaction mod

[north wedge]

Just popping in rq to ask, but is this good? It was my old build before I used a forma and I forgot it sometime like a week ago idk, but Im curious

[opal leaf]

I'm actually waiting for Malz bc he uses faction mods stuff.

And yes just meant a Multi faction mod

[crimson cedar]

(crit damage as mission mod i guess), prettu decent but i prefer with 60/60% mod and primary crux arcane, maybe primay precision than galva chamber

[valid plaza]

I'm paused on gameplay until I get informed enough to make a decision.

[crimson cedar]

Antifaction are super powerfull with status damages, cuz double-dip, but multi-faction on a riven is useless 99.9% of the time, and you don't have Orokin AF on it's not usable on missions with some corrupted ennemies

[north wedge]

Im new to modding and still figuring a bit out, but i found that blast is pretty good with magnetic and a bunch Corpus grouped up together rather than one individual at a time. is this normal or am I going crazy?-

[quiet laurel]

left

[crimson cedar]

blast & elec make AOE damages very powerfull against grouped ennemis with no defenses like armor, it works very well on corpus & infesteds

[north wedge]

Ah

[valid plaza]

If you have one fat instance of damage, like an explosive weapon with 5 shots, then do gas instead.

[crimson cedar]

i hope you play your basmu with a frame with enough HP to benefit his specific mod (1350hp)

[north wedge]

Im using Jade because of damage, but i do use arcane bellicose and a lot of health bonuses

[crimson cedar]

Jade don't need any weapon, her 4 clean everything with the right build 😄

[north wedge]

I just use Basmu most of the time lol

[crimson cedar]

Basmu is a niche but powerfull weapon in the right hands

[north wedge]

Jade's only issue is energy sometimes lol

[valid plaza]

Should I hold or take new this time?

[north wedge]

I like the basmu a lot, it's fun to play around with. I got happy when I found out I got the augment for it from nightwave in the past

[north wedge]

I wish I knew

[old marsh]

both r good. i would pick right coz u can get PT in Boltor with P Shred and Evo

[valid plaza]

And the multishot cd?

I held

[crimson cedar]

it makes very goood damages with primary precision, primary crux arcane helps to constant fire with it (ammo effiency en weakpoint hits, and more %statut up to +300%)

and galv. aptitude is multiplicative on it

on the normal fire mode (not the beams)

[north wedge]

The beams i use when there's a lot of enemies at once or i can't find one from the minimap since it's such a big area, I use normal fire when I'm not doing damage lmao

3 years into this game and im still figuring out the core mechanics

[crimson cedar]

I've been here for 12 years, and I still discover new things from time to time

[north wedge]

Damn

Its the elder gods that they spoke of

Have we found the promised holy land? /j

[north wedge]

Did you know abt the parvos granum bits of hidden story you can get with the granum crowns?

[restive summit]

is it a good riven ?

[crimson cedar]

yep, and you get some stuff to decorate your orbiter, fit nicely for a pc screen 😄

[valid axle]

Is critical surge worith

[north wedge]

Oh good god

[restive summit]

is it that good ?

[north wedge]

Im drooling from the amount of multishot I love it

In my opinion it's good but my opinion might be ass

[drowsy drum]

What’s a good arcane for Atals landslide fist

[green gyro]

yeah it's pretty good

[opal leaf]

None, just whatever tbh

Just what you feel

[green gyro]

you can slot it over primed ravage

you get a lot more damage✅

[crimson cedar]

i'll run the corrosive buff arcane on it, cuz too %status too low (even with weeping round combo x12 to benefit a lot with melee influence )

and still have naturally an AOE

my Atlas make ~100 to 150M damage in AOE when setup

for 0 energy 😄

[opal leaf]

Oh wait

Influence, it's the one that do the nuking

[opal leaf]

With the AUG for it, he can just normally do it in a normal Thursday hahaha

[crimson cedar]

the augment add +100STR (similar to khora aug, but +350% for her), the text IG is not a "real" x2 damages 😄

[opal leaf]

I mean... It felt like it hahaha

[crimson cedar]

it's fine to cost 0 energy/hit, you can spam/use golems (to distract ennemies) and petrify when you want

and buff with WA

[opal leaf]

I like to beat them up tbh hahaha

[crimson cedar]

you can reach 81% status chance with only weeping wounds at x12 combo ( 15% base x (1+ (11x40)%)), pretty low to benefit Melee influence, and you still have a big aoe with Landslide, no necessary imo, he make enough damages

maybe he can profit proton snap, i'm not sure

(+50% final flat)

[opal leaf]

Left right Uppercut

[crimson cedar]

too much ttk 🙁

[opal leaf]

Atlas is a cheat code as well like Nova hahaha

[opal leaf]

Ttk?

[crimson cedar]

time to kill

it's common to OHK an acolyte with Atlas 😄

(before the major proto-exalted patch)
just for the flex 😄 ( unplayable in real conditions )

with the old 5% crit chance landslide

[opal leaf]

I know

It's on purpose... I can kill an Acolyte easily but with an another frame

[crimson cedar]

Ash is a weapon of choice to VIP kills 🤝

[opal leaf]

Hate is too goated

[simple frost]

i swear gara's s1 hit box is bugged
i don't get how the heck it misses an enemies standing right in front of me

[opal leaf]

Is it a slash or a pierce

[simple frost]

slash

i don't think i saw anyone used pierce

[opal leaf]

Ehh...

Bugged maybe

[simple frost]

hit box so cursed that i don't know if it's bugged or working as intended half of the time

[crimson cedar]

" Hate " is the solution, always.

[solar reef]

generally its better to just use a primed faction mod

for the obvious reason that 1.55x > 1.40x

[opal leaf]

Oh that's true

[solar reef]

ive rolled rivens specifically for Corpus, Grineer, Range/Attack Speed / -Harmless before

[opal leaf]

That make sense.. And most Multi faction mods are like... Less 1.2 to 1.4 at least

[solar reef]

but its not optimal by many means

[opal leaf]

Thats understandable

[solar reef]

the only reason to do it is to save you the effort of swapping mods

which is a total non issue

[opal leaf]

Aight

Thanks for that

[neat robin]

A or B? mine is impact spec

[solar reef]

neither are great, left is obviously better

[neat robin]

i keep getting bad rolls :/ gotta pick the best of a bad batch

[quiet laurel]

welcome to rivens

havent gotten nami solo desired stats within like 3k rolls

[solar reef]

i gave up on my nami solo

i hit 500 and decided to sell it off

had other rivens i was more interested in rolling

[quiet laurel]

nami solo wanting specifically -100% slash is such a pain in the ass

[solar reef]

yeah its yuck

[quiet laurel]

but we never give up

[neat robin]

3k? at that point id just quit re-rolling that riven

[solar reef]

i just wasnt terrible invested in nami, yk?

[quiet laurel]

across multiple rivens

[solar reef]

I was rolling it for the sake of it atp

[quiet laurel]

saw that nami solo groll goes for like 20k and just started rolling

[solar reef]

Dropped it to invest in a Destreza riven that I also gave up on after like 100 rolls

[quiet laurel]

i was then shot 27 times

[solar reef]

i need to get a trash roll ichor to invest in

literally nobody selling my desired roll

They all have no negative, except for one; he has -status chance though 😭

[valid axle]

What role is better

[quiet laurel]

tbh Ima wait till I am at 100m kuva until I roll ribens again

[solar reef]

right by way of its a better smite orokin 🤑

but yeah I’m looking for Heat, DMG, Range /-Harmless(preferably heavy efficiency)

[quiet laurel]

why heat

gas?

[solar reef]

gas afflictions set up im using

[quiet laurel]

is afflictions on da ichor new tech

I thought vortex was the thing you would use after influence

[solar reef]

i mean its always been a good option

I just prefer vortex

[valid axle]

can i get help with this cus i dont know what is better

[quiet laurel]

you got your answer

a few messages above

[solar reef]

tldr both mid

[wary forge]

Keep rolling both are bad I would have taken left left is atleast slotable over fury/organ shatter

[wary forge]

How many arbis is that roughly

[warm obsidian]

Yeah...
Gonna drop Corro and just go pure heat on Mesa

[quiet laurel]

if we assume high rolls and S tier like 2.5k

[warm obsidian]

Might even drop Crit chance mods once I get a 3rd Tau Topaz

[wary forge]

It’s gonna take u 2k arbis to get 100 mill kuva

Bruh

[quiet laurel]

I am 1/4th the way there

[wary forge]

Based

Good luck man

[stray spindle]

hey, rn im using acceltra but i keep running out of ammo even with mods but besides that i really like the weapon. is there any meta/good weapon like acceltra but with a bigger magazine?

[solar reef]

Burston Incarnon

[warm obsidian]

You could try to slot-in Vigilante Supplies

[stray spindle]

alr using...

[stray spindle]

ill give it a look ty!

[quiet laurel]

use acceltra and put the cyte in the bag

[warm obsidian]

Burston is a good choice but it desperately needs it's Incarnon

And won't be available for a few weeks

You could go Soma

[quiet laurel]

soma is nothing like acceltra

braton incarnon would be an option

but if you like acceltra just use acceltra with a frame that makes it good

[crimson cedar]

Put primary crux arcane on acceltra : +300% status chance, +60% ammo efficiency. Enough to sustain ammo with ammo conversion next to it

[quiet laurel]

horror

[crimson cedar]

yes you have to aim for weakpoints, but it you use galva aptitude, you already need to aim on ennemies to benefit to multiplicative bonus

[quiet laurel]

galv apt on acceltra

even more horror

[old marsh]

You guys scaring the kids

[crimson cedar]

dosen't affect the AOE, but multiplicative on the main projectile (edit : erf, no 🙁 )

[warm obsidian]

Nope

[crimson cedar]

all the time we can see : 😭 why my acceltra suxx, run out of ammo and cant kill armored ennemies

[warm obsidian]

Acceltra with Primary Acuity on the other hand

[crimson cedar]

correct, i just check it right now, thinking it was mutliplicative. MB

[warm obsidian]

Also states Direct Damage

[old marsh]

be glad Akarius isnt shit too. arguable one of the best secondaries. specially given it isnt an incarnon or an aversary

[warm obsidian]

Akarius eats more ammo than Acceltra

Not to mention the reload

[crimson cedar]

maybe i'm running it on my build bc primary crux, and use it to have a base damage, after priming with a secondary, i don't play this weapons cuz too many flaws

[warm obsidian]

It's only saving grace is Yareli with Arcane Pistoleer since she can't get staggered

When Merulina is summoned

[old marsh]

akarius by its own is a phenomenal secondary. maybe u havent modded it correctly

[warm obsidian]

Don't get me wrong the damage is great
The ammo on the other hand

[old marsh]

never had issues. i have taken it to EDA. no WF buffs or gear used

the only issue it has is what every AOE weapon does. knockback. either PSF or Overguard is needed

[wary forge]

Just use a mutation mod and ur good

[old marsh]

ye. that works too

[wary forge]

And ice storm in the build if u really find the reload annoying

[crimson cedar]

gain small amount of OG when starting a bulletjump next to an ennemie with OG, if you have fortifier arcane on your undeployed archgun

[scenic plume]

Is this good for the paris prime?

[civic gulch]

guys i just got kuva sobek, anyone has a build for him with or without acid shells?

[crimson cedar]

why play sobek without acid shells 😭

[old marsh]

crit dmg

[crimson cedar]

nice for kubrow's claws statstick

[old marsh]

thats why he asked lol. explain him

[crimson cedar]

acid shell is the reason we play the sobek

[old marsh]

now. with same energy. explain why

[wary forge]

It’s slotable

[civic gulch]

i mean i know that acid shells is why you use sobek and why but i'm just asking is there any good build at all that uses something different

[wary forge]

No

Just use boar prime atp

[old marsh]

with Acid Shells

[glass moon]

3 primed mods and 3 galv mods

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[civic gulch]

and should i use this riven that i got for it or is it better if i use something else, i'm thinking that i should use this riven instead of ravage

[old marsh]

its joever

[civic gulch]

literally building any shotgun

[wary forge]

That’s litterslly every build what

[glass moon]

it aint

[wary forge]

This is pretty mid ngl

[glass moon]

i can run just 1/2 galv mods on a rifle

[wary forge]

Not even really slotable

[glass moon]

and the primed cryo mod

[wary forge]

What rifle doesn’t run both galvanized mods

[old marsh]

keep it if u feel like your sobek is lacking

[glass moon]

torid

[wary forge]

Unless it’s like an aoe one or something specific ofc

[glass moon]

burston

[wary forge]

Burston does

U go scope and chamber

[crimson cedar]

imagine playing Ocucor without his Sentient Surge mod 👀

[wary forge]

Point is that it’s really not that insane imo

[civic gulch]

btw wouldn't shotgun vendetta be better than deadhead?

[old marsh]

"rifle"

[glass moon]

1 galv mod and 2 primed mods

[wary forge]

And a riven

[glass moon]

on shotguns you need 2-3 of each

[wary forge]

Ok what’s the problem with that tho

[glass moon]

shotguns are expensive to min max

[civic gulch]

and is galv accelleration necessary cause it's literally the only galvanised mod that i don't have

[glass moon]

where do i find these things

[old marsh]

coz vendetta is MS. deadhead is dmg. plus Sobek's clip Delegation augment gives it 225% MS anyways

[wary forge]

So then get the mods if you can’t get then don’t worry about it

[old marsh]

nah

[crimson cedar]

you need to be REALLY closer to ennemies, and you already have a mod with a lot of Multishot on the modding

[old marsh]

sand areas

[wary forge]

You don’t need primed mods

They are ideal ofc but not needed

[glass moon]

never said they were

said hard to min max

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[wary forge]

How is that hard to min max tho

Technically they are all free form baroo

[modest vector]

its time i build my sobek cyte......................... this gonna go boom boom

[wary forge]

Also if you’re specifically talking about Sobek you don’t need a single primed mod aside from a bane mod since none of them actually do anything to acid shells all Crit and status does is help you kill the initial target

[glass moon]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-i-guess-bro-bro-i-guess-ok-man-gif-6278747235421617446

not even the mods

upgrade cost too

costs like 100k+ to max out stuff youll need on most rifles

[old marsh]

petition for Cyte Prime to come with Sobek Prime

[modest vector]

sobek prime...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/808878279430766654/1490202862070923446/neppu.gif

[wary forge]

If you’re a new player you don’t need primed you don’t “need” any primed mods for that matter at all for builds

[civic gulch]

btw which kuva weapon should i get next i've got sobek, hek, bramma and nukor

[old marsh]

Sobek Prime Incarnon

[glass moon]

i never said they were mandatory

[wary forge]

So 36k endo to max out a rank 10 mod is now 100k got it

[wary forge]

So then what are you saying then

[glass moon]

harder to min max

[old marsh]

Brakk, Seer, Hind, Kohm, Ogris, Quartakk, Chakkurr and Grattler

[wary forge]

You just said they aren’t mandatory tho

[glass moon]

min max doesnt mean mandatory

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-higuruma-jjk-season-3-gif-4667305439104820644

[wary forge]

If you’re min maxing something you would want that best mods would be in theory mandatory no?

[glass moon]

this gotta be some rage bait man

[civic gulch]

oh right i also got grattler but i forgot that it exists, i will maybe try to get ogris cause i know it's funny

[old marsh]

its the same thing as playing lvl cap.

[brittle sleet]

Semantics are inherently rage bait for everyone involved, usually

[brittle sleet]

Ogris is love, Ogris is life

[old marsh]

dont forget this

[wary forge]

You said they are hard to min max then say builds don’t need them which in term means that there’s no need to min max based on that logic. Like what’s even the point in min maxing if you don’t to that’s literally what you’re saying

[brittle sleet]

Kohm will be funny to have set up when Plague Star comes back too I guess

[wary forge]

True

[thorn aspen]

whats the best build for uriel at mr 7

[lavish orbit]

"Shotgun are hard to min-max cuse you need at least 3 expensive mods, but they're not mandatory when you just want them build enough to kill in your level range"

[velvet pulsar]

Invest in shotgun rivens.
Most of them turn out to be good

[old marsh]

which roll is worse?

btw i am using cannonade on this ogris

[wary forge]

Left one is better then

[old marsh]

cant get the damn MS roll

[wary forge]

Pretty mid riven still sd and mag cap aren’t bad but damage isn’t as needed since u already have connonade

[old marsh]

ye

not a single roll so far has MS

https://tenor.com/view/kid-en-sacrement-regard-de-feu-gif-15231722216266444049

[wary forge]

I just disagree that they are expensive personally like sure maxing them is a lot of endo but it’s really not hard to farm arena on Sedna for endo even if you are new to the game u literally just need a necros and in theory all of them can be acquired from baroo from free. Again it’s just all semantics builds don’t need to be min maxed for anything in this game unless you’re doing very specific content like you not having any primed mods for your shotgun legit won’t matter for 95% of the content in wf thats why it’s just moot

[versed harbor]

ye I think it just comes down to people being afraid of squad arena farms tbh

[wary forge]

Yeah

[versed harbor]

looks intimidating with all the guides n such but literally anyone can play nekros in arenas

[wary forge]

That’s why there discord servers for that

[wary forge]

Literally

[lavish orbit]

Let's agree to disagree, when you are new 120k endo is a mountain to get, waiting for baro to get the right mods every 2 weeks and selling primes for ducats is a thing, waiting is also in the expensive process

[glass moon]

who joins the game wanting to do repetitive farms for endo

lmao

baro needs ducats too

and its not like he sells all the mods unless its the tennocon baro

[lavish orbit]

I mean, that can be a thing to do though, farming for the tennocon every year to get enough ducats to shred baro's pouch

Jk jk

[glass moon]

takes time to do

i mean i could just use a rifle instead of a shotgun

buy one primed cryo round and max it out

and everything else is galv mod or something dirt cheap

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-awkward-worried-nervous-embarrassed-gif-4782036

[waxen wharf]

How should i build the Aklex?

[waxen wharf]

double blicky go brrr

[wary forge]

I mean yeah it is but when you’re new you don’t need all those primed mods tho only thing I would say is mandatory is the galvanized mods and that’s litterslly 2

[lavish orbit]

Yes

[wary forge]

If you’re new new like just got the game and haven’t even done the star chart on normal then u don’t need any of that stuff and by the time u get to sp u should have or be able to get endo and stuff like that easily to max the mods

[hollow mantle]

How's this.

[wary forge]

Tigris incarnon waiting room

[hollow mantle]

Real.

I hope the 4th evolution stat upgrades are actually good...

and maybe one of the evolutions gives ammo efficiency

God I want ammo efficiency

[wary forge]

I just wouldn’t use it / invest in it until then it’s literally just a worse felerax in every way

[hollow mantle]

Well I use it because

It's a pretty looking weapon
It has a pretty reload
I like double barrels
It sounds satisfying to shoot

[wary forge]

Exergis and kuva kek also clear it

[hollow mantle]

I don't like how the Felarx looks, and I have used every other shotgun enough

The other ones are all boring to me

I know they are good, the Tigris is just special to me.

[wary forge]

Tigris was my most used for a while I think it’s still my second most used it’s got a special place for me 2 but I mean yeah it’s just not good

[hollow mantle]

To be honest even if it wasn't getting an incarnon I'd probably still use it over the others regardless.

I can get it to kill lvl 300+ enemies fine, so its okay for most content

[wary forge]

That build isn’t bad tho I would say go primed charged shell and or a 90 mod over one of the 60/60s

[hollow mantle]

if it feels more fun than status vomit I might

[wary forge]

It’s just more damage with primed changed shell like way more

[hollow mantle]

I go from 60% Status Chance to 49% which isnt truly a meaningful difference probably but it doesnt scratch my brain the right way

Ill run them for a bit

[wary forge]

It’s status and Crit stats base are both bad in terms of doing a pure like one shot build it’s gets out classed by the kuva hek but if you want to build it for that it would look pretty similar just base damage multi shot

[hollow mantle]

Any suggestions for a replacement for Gladiator Vice

[past crater]

So what Coda weapon should i look out for

[hollow mantle]

I don't particularly use Primed Reach

[wary forge]

Just another attack speed mod primed fury/berserks but also 14x crit multi is a littler over kill lol

[hollow mantle]

It's usually 18x I just removed some stuff for testing

[wary forge]

Pathosyst baso dual cod torx for secondary and catabolyst are good for secondaries

I personally can’t not use primed reach

[hollow mantle]

It's already got an over 2m range with a stance that pushes you forward with a lot of thrusting

[wary forge]

2m of range is nothing

[hollow mantle]

Like the heavy attack is a lingering hitbox that shoots you 3m forward

4m*

Testing it I can hit enemies from about 6m, almost 7m away with the heavy attack, and the 3rd and 4th attack of the rapier stance give me an attack range of 4-5ms

[wary forge]

Range is just more kpm more range means the quicker u can hit things which means more kills using a stance for range is just cope imo

[hollow mantle]

There is almost no noticable difference to me

[oak saffron]

can sentinel weapons like verglas activate arcane hot shot?

[wary forge]

Yes

[oak saffron]

is it consistent enough to run on frames that dont have any heat abilities? currently i have hot shot on only nova

[wary forge]

Depends on the mission really

I honestly wouldn’t know I don’t use sentinels but I would think it’s ok

[hollow mantle]

Unless it's only specific sentinels

It does not proc Arcane Hotshot at all

But after trying 3 different sentinels it's not proccing for me, so probably not any of them.

[oak saffron]

dang alright

i only have nautilus and its weapon

[wary forge]

You have to heat on its weapon

[hollow mantle]

I know.

[wary forge]

Well then it should be procing then

[hollow mantle]

It's not

[wary forge]

U need Colent leak

I’m pretty sure in order to proc it if your not using Diriga with arc coil

[hollow mantle]

So far it hasnt procced

A single time

[wary forge]

It is mostly cope on other stuff that’s not Diriga or hounds tho most of them can’t upkeep it that well

[hollow mantle]

Maybe its just weird

[wary forge]

Well u need colent leak manifold bond and weapon with heat dmg in order to proc it

[hollow mantle]

Why didnt you start with that

let me test a 4th time

Still didnt proc

[woven drift]

Hey what's the best method early game to keep nekros alive with his desacrate augment (helping a friend out)

[wary forge]

What lol

[hollow mantle]

Maybe my entire game is just glitched 🤷‍♂️

[woven drift]

My friend wants to know if there's any good ways to constantly give nekros health without the helminth or archon shards

[buoyant patio]

Literally just, pick up the health orbs the enemies drop?

Every enemy has like a 60% or so chance to drop a health orb from Desecrate.

[hexed lodge]

Prob a melee with either Life Strike, Healing Return, or a pet equipped with Hunter Recovery

for early game ofc

[woven drift]

Ty

[wary forge]

Just use equilibrium lol

[wary forge]

Manifold bond allows your sentinel ability to inflict status’s killing enemies with 3 or more status reduces the ability’s cool down

[hollow mantle]

I read what it does

[wary forge]

Ok so then what’s the problem

[hollow mantle]

It doesn't proc Hotshot

[wary forge]

It does tho

[hollow mantle]

Game doesn't think that apparently

[wary forge]

Well technically coolant leak does

[hollow mantle]

Coolant didn't proc it

Maybe go test it yourself maybe my game just didn't like my arcane today

[wary forge]

Build your sentinel weapon for heat

Ideally with more heat weighting

[hollow mantle]

Do you think i dont read

[wary forge]

Yes I do

[hollow mantle]

Like Ive been using this arcane since it came out and just forgot how it works

[wary forge]

It literally works so you are doing something wrong

[hollow mantle]

You are so sanctimonious holy shit

I have a life, go test it yourself.

[wary forge]

What does that word mean

I have a life 2 I’m at my job right now 😁

[inner raptor]

Cant fix stupid ngl

[brittle sleet]

You're sure you have Hot Shot equipped? Sure the sentinel is using Coolant Leak? And sure the Leak is giving a heat proc? And you're checking within 10 seconds?

[inner raptor]

complains about hotshot not proccing

doesnt use companion mod and modded companion weapon with heat

[hollow mantle]

I did

I literally did

[solar reef]

This would also imply that coolant leak will proc it

[hollow mantle]

Well it didnt

[solar reef]

user error i guess

[brittle sleet]

There's gotta be something missing here

[inner raptor]

Feels like bait at this point

[hollow mantle]

You people are incapable of being normal nice or understanding in any way shape or form

[brittle sleet]

I'm just telling you there's gotta be something missing

[hollow mantle]

I have no problem with you man, I dont doubt it, But im saying im using the things they are saying Im NOT

[brittle sleet]

Testing in simulacrum right?

[inner raptor]

You were the one who started talking sht

[hollow mantle]

Tested in simulacrum

[hollow mantle]

Me when i lie

[inner raptor]

Calling out people when they were just answering your question

[hollow mantle]

Im just blocking you and the other dude you guys aren't worth it

[inner raptor]

Me when i play victim

[hollow mantle]

If it's the simulacrum messing it up I'd understand tbh

[brittle sleet]

Simplify your mod layout to keep testing, try just straight up putting only heat on your sentinel weapon, and only manifold and coolant on the sentinel

[hollow mantle]

I did that too just incase

[brittle sleet]

Can't be that many things messing it up, and simulacrum doesn't have issues like this generally

[hollow mantle]

Yeah idk

[brittle sleet]

You reloaded simulacrum too?

[quiet laurel]

can you ideally show footage of your modding screen and then doing the things in simulacrum

[hollow mantle]

Actually I didn't do that

[brittle sleet]

Reboot Warframe itself too if that doesn't do it

[quiet laurel]

hehe footage, foot 🤤

[hollow mantle]

That might be it

[solar reef]

also what are you using that requires you to use coolant leak

[brittle sleet]

Hehe foot 🤤

[solar reef]

Hound and Diriga are right there

[hollow mantle]

The person asking was using Nautilus

So I was trying nautilus

[leaden night]

Following a build i found online, did not expect seeing over 600% status chance on my exalted blade

[hollow mantle]

Funny number makes brain itch right

[brittle sleet]

Chromatic Blade does in fact go crazy with it

[solar reef]

tri umbral with no persistence

[quiet laurel]

another triumbral victim

[leaden night]

Context?

[hollow mantle]

Triumbrual as in the three umbra mods

[solar reef]

Umbral Fiber and Umbral Vitality are generally wasted mod slots

[leaden night]

ah

[solar reef]

Health and Armor wholistically have no value today

[leaden night]

For refrence heres the build

[quiet laurel]

but mah DR tanking build

[solar reef]

unless you’re building for persistence or your frame in particular has a gimmick related to it

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/gabagool-shon-son-im-crine-james-gandolfini-sopranos-gif-5632752440652965130

[brittle sleet]

They kinda have no value. There's levels at which they do have value but it's only fairly low levels

Gotta disclaimer there

[solar reef]

Arcane Fury AND Steel Charge as well

holy additive

[quiet laurel]

this looks like the build of this one excal main running around here using like 2 mods to increase excals ability stats

[inner raptor]

Wat the hell is that oveframe build

[solar reef]

dookie balls

[quiet laurel]

dont you see, a peak level cap build

it says so in the title so it has to be true

[solar reef]

I just saw that

[leaden night]

Fun fact its the highest voted one on there

Idk why

[quiet laurel]

dont trust votes on overframe

[solar reef]

umbra is a new player frame
new players think its great
it gets voted

[quiet laurel]

voters arent the smartest and votes dont get updated

[solar reef]

retains those votes for several years

[quiet laurel]

you see allat ninjase there

thats where the good stuff is (mostly)

[solar reef]

i generally would not trust overframe unless its ninjase

[inner raptor]

Unless its outdated but just updating the version tag and not the mods

[solar reef]

even he misses from time to time

but for the most part he has good middle-ground build guides

[inner raptor]

Basically that build dies real fast in higher steelpath

[leaden night]

tbh it was the first thing that gave me a straight answer so eh

[solar reef]

do you want to shield gate or do you want to health tank

(health tanking is umbral cope)

[inner raptor]

Farm or buy arcane persistence and get a healing option for him

[solar reef]

and a confidently wrong straight answer but yeah, i guess

[quiet laurel]

I'd personally use smth along those lines
can snapshot his 4 with concentration for more comfort or use any other arcane

and augur mod on secondary for cat shields

[solar reef]

this part is a must

[wary forge]

Excal with persistence also works

It’s pretty comfy

[quiet laurel]

I heard persistence was involved in 9/11 I wouldnt use it

[wary forge]

There’s that one in guy in cascade club who is an Excalibur main

And he will die on a hill that persistence is the best way to build him

I still think it’s just straight up worse then lazy gating/active gating but it does work

[solar reef]

Teo

Yeah hes goofy

he goes on rants every now and then here and will like straight up dm you if you say “its fine but its not the best”

[fierce lark]

that's not nearly as bad as salmon sleighride insisting that triumbral rage persistence hydroid is objectively the best way to play him

[solar reef]

But at least he takes his kit to level cap and isnt a dork on that end

[wary forge]

Ye

[solar reef]

is that the persistence everything guy

[fierce lark]

i have no idea

[solar reef]

meats was in here arguing with someone like that over Hydroid last month

[wary forge]

That’s something

[brittle sleet]

Persistence is for sure worse on Excalibur in the sense of being fallible but I could maybe see an argument for the shieldgating Slash Dash interruptions reducing your KPS maybe...?

As someone who does enjoy Persistence Excalibur that's the only grounds I can see

[undone dust]

red = cool
blue = STINKY

[versed harbor]

ermm if I persistence excal then I dont have to ability spam to shield gate /s

[quiet laurel]

thats why you gas chromatic blade so enemies still die while you dash
its approved by israel trust the tech

[fierce lark]

you do if you equip hunter adrenaline xd

[undone dust]

waving my life striking exalted blade urghhh ughhh

[fierce lark]

imagine using like 5 mods and an arcane and a subsume to make all this shit work

[undone dust]

evade excalibur!!

[wary forge]

Nah diakyu prime with a nikana Zaw

[solar reef]

excalibur paid off by AIPAC

what have we come to

[versed harbor]

also ngl persistence hydroid would actually infuriate me

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/chud-chudjak-wojak-soyjak-marcvin5-gif-13903021270190271130

[quiet laurel]

excal was one of the first warframes entering gaza territory

[solar reef]

doesnt hydroid have i-frames

[versed harbor]

only on his 2 but still

[undone dust]

and his 2 is goated

[wary forge]

It’s more so that u do have to spam a lot sometimes mainly for level cap and it can sometimes be annoying overall its decently comfy tho but yeah thats the main reason why people lazy gate on Excal rather then active

[versed harbor]

very cast heavy and crowd control heavy frame idk why you'd cope all those slots on persistence

[undone dust]

b-b-but high armor!! and and and status immunity with an augment!!

[wary forge]

His 2 with the augment is literally so insane

[versed harbor]

FR I love hydroid 2

[wary forge]

Allows you to spam it repeatedly and it’s I frames with rolling guard

[quiet laurel]

I hate hydroid

[versed harbor]

and its dummy fast

[fierce lark]

someone else was complaining about needing umbra forma and after saying "nobody needs it" i got hit with this

[wary forge]

Such a good ability hydroid is so underrated

[quiet laurel]

stupid ass frame

[solar reef]

“but but but casting 2 to gate makes kpm drop!”
i’d say slotting 3 mods for persistence + an arcane is equally bad for kpm

[solar reef]

yeah thats them

[undone dust]

i love how solid the grouping of surge is too

nice for capping plunder

[solar reef]

he was also persistence oberon iirc

that pissed me off lowkey

[wary forge]

Hydroid is a poor weapons platform….

[solar reef]

like how lazy can a frame get

[wary forge]

There’s no way he actually typed that

Like bruh 💀

[undone dust]

kullervo:

[versed harbor]

do ppl persistence nidus or just use his regular undying stuff (when nidus actually gets played)

ive not touched him since it came out im curious

[wary forge]

It’s ussaly both

[versed harbor]

oh fr

[wary forge]

For outside of level cap u don’t really need persistence tho to be fair

But it’s also like there’s really no reason to not use it

[quiet laurel]

think vu thang made an invincible nidus with persistence

I think I'd use that if I ever used him

[fierce lark]

#builds-discussion message go from this message down if you want the weapon platform convo lmao

[solar reef]

ive been going to cascade for years now
i only just now bothered unlocking last gasp

[wary forge]

Holy bro found it

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-leaf-vibes-vibing-sleeping-cat-gif-17297041570420202318

[quiet laurel]

horror

[wary forge]

Imma go through that

[wary forge]

Based

[versed harbor]

might play nidus more lol ive had a 5 casting speed shard nidus for arenas for ages but I dont play him usually

[quiet laurel]

you do endo?

[versed harbor]

used to when I needed endo

[wary forge]

I’m looking forward to his touch up

I just like his design and theme a lot

[undone dust]

im going to use a helminth charger with him just because itll be funny, trust

cant wait give my kubrow 100k health and watch it die immediately in cap anyway

[versed harbor]

nidus gets banging skins its kinda like lavos

[fierce lark]

link persistence when

[wary forge]

He does

[undone dust]

phryke is such a good skin
plus the metus kubrow skin

[safe sandal]

Hi, I’m making a Magistar incarnon build and I’m wondering if the umbral mods would be better or the galavanised and primed pressure point is ok?

[fierce lark]

ye

[quiet laurel]

answering "ye" to an either or question 🔥

[fierce lark]

the correct answer is whocares everything will die

mathematically correct answer is sac better unless external cc

[undone dust]

im gonna sac on you

[undone dust]

i choose or

[fierce lark]

hackey sac

[versed harbor]

persistence magistar

[undone dust]

im a pro hackey sacer

[undone dust]

any sancti users in chat

[versed harbor]

💀

[old marsh]

Expertise Dark Dagger

[novel bear]

Persistence normal magistar needs life strike
Sancti magistar saves a slot, might be better despite the worse stats

[velvet pulsar]

Pair it with full Carnis Set

[dire terrace]

is gammacor a good weapon?

[novel bear]

Incarnoff is decent

Synoid is the better version

[sudden plank]

would argon scope work better than elementalist?

ive been trying both and i cant tell which does more dps

[spiral chasm]

elementalist will only do more dmg if u proc blast

[sudden plank]

which i do

[fierce lark]

vile acceleration wants to be somewhere

[sudden plank]

wisp moment

[fierce lark]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

3rd additive cc source isn't doing anything

argon scope is also just horrible in general and should never be equipped on anything

[glad ice]

What mods should I be hunting for the braton prime? I'm mr9 so i'm pretty new

[spiral chasm]

u want crit delay, vile accel, serration, vital sense

then u can look for 60/60 status/elemenet mods

like heat/cold/toxin

so u can make viral heat and pure toxin for corpus

probably worth looking into corrosive heat too which is toxin+electric

[versed harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[quartz tartan]

oh neat

[fierce lark]

me when my gun has no multishot

[wary forge]

Didn’t even mention acuity

Must have been the wind

[spiral chasm]

oh true multi shot can also be added

acuity idk if u can earn that in the early game

[leaden thistle]

1999-specific

[fierce lark]

acuity is stinky anyway

if im going to make the choice between farming/buying acuity or galv chamber, not a hard choice

and then the humble 5 rank split chamber

[wary forge]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpin-it-glorp-soda-soda-shaking-gif-905011299873407089

[leaden thistle]

Acuity is baller for Deimos bounty runs / aya farming. The big Jugulus worms get shredded with it since the heads count for weak points but don't normally take bonus damage

[static sphinx]

Are topaz or crimson shards better for Mesa?

[dusky bane]

orange is best in slot iirc

[fierce lark]

topaz secondary heat crit

you can use a parkour shard if you want, it's kinda nice for waltz

[static sphinx]

I'm looking for more damage, so I'll try to get topaz shards now. I only use waltz to get some energy.

[fierce lark]

waltz gets you energy?

[static sphinx]

It's impossible to pick most orbs if you're stationary.

[fierce lark]

non-waltz mesa still isn't stationary

tbh i still rarely ever sit in regs with waltz

waltz is mostly for in case i don't need to move very far/minor qol

i played power drift for awhile and it didn't feel that different

[leaden thistle]

I tend to hit Peacemakers while mid-air giving me a bit of extra momentum :V

[static sphinx]

I use Mesa mostly for defense, mobile defense, interception, etc. so waltz is exactly what I need. Also, she can't move while using regulators without it.

[fierce lark]

you're still gonna want to exit regulators to bjump somewhere and re-enter midair to reposition

[static sphinx]

My Mesa isn't complete yet anyway, so I don't usually use her in missions that require constant movement.

[fierce lark]

even in defense, you don't want to sit on the defense objective the entire time, you wanna go hunting when there's a few enemies left

there's always one guy off in the middle of bumfrick nowhere taking 10 years to catch up to everyone

[elfin sluice]

that, and looting

[versed harbor]

mesas waltz hater >:]

[static sphinx]

That's when I stop using regulators and use my weapons instead. As I said, she's not complete, so regulators hit as much as my primary/secondary.

[elfin sluice]

if you're not using brightbonnet, you are going to run out of peacemaker energy if you just sit on the defense objective

[dusky bane]

based and redpilled
it's no longer harmful to run, but it's also unnecessary

[elfin sluice]

since everyone will die long before they enter fetch range

nourish is best-in-slot for helminth subsuming on her outside of defense though IMO - buffs regulator damage while also alleviating her energy crisis

and doesn't chain you down to one spot

i forget, is mesa's waltz required to roll with regulators drawn?

or is it just the strafing that it unlocks?

[static sphinx]

I'm just getting stuff to complete her build, my helminth is unable to do anything because I kind of hated cambion drift since the moment I first entered it. It will change soon though.

[versed harbor]

ye

[wild rune]

Mesa cannot gain momentum herself in any way without waltz

She can keep momentum, but she cannot gain it without outside forces

[dire terrace]

how do you costumize like this?

[silk ether]

Do people make builds on their own or do a lot of players just copy builds from others?

Dam I killed the chat

[undone dust]

usually people snatch builds but it's more fun to craft your own

[gritty hound]

Is there anything else that affects enemies on roll besides arcane circumvent and careen

[undone dust]

i occasionally look at examples and just tweak them to what feels comfortable for me

i be like

[elfin sluice]

i make and copy
inclusive or

[placid vapor]

I like to make my own builds. Sometimes I get influenced by the builds my friends come up with. However, I enjoy tinkering with stuff too much to copy builds very much. You’ll learn a lot more if you go through the trial, and error yourself.

[fierce lark]

influence

[wary forge]

influence

[versed harbor]

MELEE INFLUENCE

[wary forge]

Only way to build melees everything else is bad 😁

[dusky bane]

the average melee build has been heavily influenced by the whispers in the walls update

[wary forge]

Tung tung tung sahur has influenced me on how to build melees

[queen sandal]

Would be awesome if you guys took about 2 minutes to vote on the next warframe :3 #1477886221643415747 message <33

[versed harbor]

gonna vote hydroid because im still mad someone said the words persistence and hydroid

[fierce lark]

same

[wary forge]

Actually yeah I gotta do hydroid for that guy

[novel bear]

Magistar influence

[severe bough]

Lavos magistar influence

Tech fr

https://tenor.com/view/ggf-gato-like-gif-8141745260571442902

[dire terrace]

guys best element for a gammacor riven?

sorry. best stats

[leaden thistle]

Usually whatever min-maxes it's base stats iirc

Which to me looks like status. So multishot, status chance, Damage perhaps because incarnon. Negative zoom is an easy option but negative crit also isn't going to hurt

[dense belfry]

cuz im sure this should go her ebut if its not my bad
this a good riven to use or should i stick to

[wary forge]

Both of these are meh I guess right one tho

You want fire rate, Crit chance Crit damage mulishot or elementals. Base dmg is ok but generally not that desirable on a riven

[novel bear]

Right is usable at least

Slots over the toxin mod for viral easily

Extra crit chance isn’t the best buff, and a negative would be nice
Crit damage is the best stat, since you can also use it for acuity builds

[wary forge]

Yep

[elfin sluice]

how's this for a treasure hunting lavos prime build?

[static sphinx]

What is the best speargun?

[elfin sluice]

is persistence a stupid idea for a lavos that's rushing through things?

[earnest tangle]

Fellas, would left or right be better?

[fierce lark]

base damage is great on a burston riven since it can't run aptitude

replaces serration

[lone socket]

Anyone have any suggestion on modding the Nataruk

[wary forge]

its already got its evo plus dead head and seration its not a bad roll but i would say off the stat roles u would want its the worst role

[fierce lark]

evo is multiplicative with mods

it adds to the base damage

i would almost argue base dmg is an ideal stat for incarnon rivens if you don't have a free mod slot already, serration is pretty stinky and it's only there to help with initial arcane stacking

[undone dust]

im going to add to your base damage

[fierce lark]

what does that even mean

[wary forge]

i mean u go the crit evo anyways

[wary forge]

true

[undone dust]

youll see

[wary forge]

seration is really just nice when ur dead head wares off/you cant get it really

[fierce lark]

like if i could pick the stats i'd take cc cd ms sure, but if i get a riven that says dmg cd ms or dmg cd fr im not gonna keep rolling it

[wary forge]

for sure

[undone dust]

what if it has dmg recoil and zoom

[fierce lark]

actually i think if i could pick burston riven stats id do dmg cd fr

[novel bear]

Burston usually runs deadhead though

[fierce lark]

of course, but it also usually runs serration

[wary forge]

ye its just more flexible with dead head that or argon scope is ussaly the slot out

or truth if u got a fr riven i guess

[fierce lark]

even if we ignore the "it's good until stacks" part of it, it's still contributing to 30% of your base dmg increase, so it's doing roughly about as much as a non-primed bane would be doing

[wary forge]

true

[fierce lark]

(double dipping irrelevant because what's living long enough to take a heat proc lol)

[quartz tartan]

My Granddad

[fierce lark]

primed bane is better if you want to slot it, but nobody does tbh

[wary forge]

yep

[fierce lark]

i would probably take right and slot it over galv scope

crit dmg is #1 riven stat by a lot

[eternal glacier]

Guys how much can i get off of these

[elfin sluice]

-projspeed is a HUGE con on the angstrum

[wary forge]

all trash price besides orthos

[elfin sluice]

makes the weapon almost unusable

[wary forge]

orthos a little bit more

[eternal glacier]

Oh

[wary forge]

neg to infested is pretty bad for general use tbh

[elfin sluice]

if someone buys that angstrum riv from ya, it's for rerolling

[fierce lark]

blast, elec, beginner

[wary forge]

faction mods are op as a begenir

[eternal glacier]

Man how do u guys get that much plat

[wary forge]

2k isnt a lot lol

[elfin sluice]

remember, you need to land hits with the base form to activate incarnon form

[elfin sluice]

sell a kuva lich or a good riven

[fierce lark]

i nolifed omni relics for awhile during the last end of year resurgence

[eternal glacier]

Bruski i have 100 and i am so happy about that

[wary forge]

most of mine is just from selling warframe sets

[fierce lark]

made a couple thousand just from random prime sets & tennokai mods

[elfin sluice]

rivens & liches trade in the hundreds to low thousands if you want to strike big

[eternal glacier]

I have like 4 warframe just sitting in my foundry cause i have no warframe slots

[wary forge]

i still got 40 trin and 40 nova sets just waiting for them to go up

thats prob like 10k plat right there or something like that

[elfin sluice]

after BoTB ends i'll be making 100,000 at least from selling then-unobtainable stalker progenitor kuva liches

[wary forge]

wtb kuva lich for 100k ok

[elfin sluice]

more like 3 for 30k probably but ye lol

[eternal glacier]

How do i get them bro

[elfin sluice]

i literally posted a guide on the subreddit

[eternal glacier]

These kuva leaches thingies

[eternal glacier]

I dont have reddit

[elfin sluice]

oh, the method for stalker liches is a lot more convoluted than normal lich making

don't bother if not familiar

it's frustrating to say the least.

[eternal glacier]

My main goal is just to get 1k realy

[wary forge]

didnt the patch that

[elfin sluice]

NORMAL kuva lich making is just running cassini, saturn on repeat

[wary forge]

they

[elfin sluice]

nope. i made another after the patch.

they only patched one way to do it

[wary forge]

actually

oh ic

[elfin sluice]

i can film the process if you want

[undone dust]

do the stalker lich weapons just have no progen when you actually get them?

[wary forge]

ye

[undone dust]

that is hilarious

60% of jack shit

[eternal glacier]

I just wanna know how u get them

I was just sad today that i used a potato on the wrong weapon and u guys saying 2k is a bit🥀

[opal leaf]

Stalker lich?

[opal leaf]

Which "wrong person" is this

[undone dust]

idk how it works now but you used to just get sent into a normal mission as stalker and you could spawn a lich and get him as a progen

[opal leaf]

Yeah stalker has no set progen

[eternal glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-shocked-nompa-gif-2196528724599529860

[opal leaf]

I asked for which "wrong person" and they responded with flight being fight

[eternal glacier]

Bro i said weapon not person

[opal leaf]

Alright, which weapon is it?

[eternal glacier]

Mk1 furis i wanted to put it on normal furis

[opal leaf]

Yeahhhhhh it's a weaker Furis

[eternal glacier]

Yh i was so sad

[opal leaf]

It's only fast fire rate

[clear turret]

stalker is ??? if you play him and press esc then you see your display name is replaced with it

if you mean no set element than yeah

[opal leaf]

Yeah stalker just have no set progen

[oblique dust]

careen or doughty for this build? riven is 105 cold 62 attack speed and 209 crit chance

also would primed reach be a good fit? since it does have 70 follow through

[sudden plank]

any goated hildryn builds?

[west radish]

Top 4 weapon platform?

Bro this server is dead gotta get unbanned on warframe community one

😭

[coral saffron]

which build do you guys think works better

I'm going for an all purpose build

[fierce crag]

Anyone got a good acceltra prime build?

[opal leaf]

Huh?

[opal leaf]

Let me ask this first before I share mine

Why Acceltra?

Because any "Good" acceltra build is... Bad bc the gun itself is bad

Or Mid

Unless if you have a Weapon platformer

[silk sphinx]

Acceltra is decent. But it’s horrid ammo economy and lackluster stats hold it back from being great.

[opal leaf]

It make sense.

If that gun has those stat increade and ammo?

It'll will be in the top 5 strongest guns