builds-discussion

[latent adder]

Electric works too

[old charm]

I think the only problem I remember running into on coda pathocyst is giving it too many combinational elements, so sticking to just viral/electric for influence

Its status chance is good, but not amazing at proccing it without a forced electric

Gives me another idea though

[late stratus]

Guys im looking builds for yareli can anyone help me out

The one with merulina guardian and loyal merulina

[timber sparrow]

with both? you cant have both

[chrome badge]

why not just make ur own build

[shut rampart]

@late stratus I got you

First image: without loyal
Second: with loyal

[timber sparrow]

strength is most important for 1 damage vulnerability, merulina's base health

what does archon intensify do?

[chrome badge]

more str when you get healed

[timber sparrow]

oh that makes sense

i use this

because the only real stats are strength and a bit of duration

tho i guess if you wanna pull enemies with 4 dont make range negative @late stratus

[shut rampart]

With loyal merulina you want to overcap on eff since merulina will attack based on efficiency

[late stratus]

i know i just need different builds

[old marsh]

u can drop avenger and combat discipline. her passive is already pretty good for secondaries

play to her strengths. pick the secondary arcane(s). and if u have survivability issues despite Merulina's invincibility gate, u can use circumvent

[dense terrace]

the humble helminth:

[timber sparrow]

no?

[timber sparrow]

circumvent on yareli oh my god

[old marsh]

lol. didnt even see u dont have loyal augment

[timber sparrow]

yes i play yareli correctly i use guardian

[opal leaf]

Hnn

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smirk-dog-smirking-evil-gif-1174039551531775064

[opal leaf]

I can't believe there is a "correct way" of playing a frame in a game where most builds can be correct

[timber sparrow]

its the matter of my opinion

[opal leaf]

I guess so

Because I thought you are going to defend how is that correct

So be clear on it

[timber sparrow]

because you cant want to use the exalted kdrive warframe and not like kdrives or to ride merulina

[timber sparrow]

i could use pistoleer but it doesnt make sense

my mutalist kompressa doesnt need it

i dont have precision

[old marsh]

ngl a mutalist kompressa would have gone hard

[timber sparrow]

im also not hitting headshots with this gun

i could use velocity but eh

[opal leaf]

I mean if you like kDrive...

You gotta kDrive 😎

[old marsh]

dont really have to. bubble gun of death hits like a truck after 0.9 seconds

lvl 500 ETA enemies vanish like dirt from soap gun

[opal leaf]

Drop the build damn

Don't leave us hanging after you just said that

[old marsh]

nothing interesting. regular corr heat build.

[opal leaf]

Cor Heat? That's interesting

[old marsh]

coz bubble gun comes with viral lol

[opal leaf]

Oh fair fair, no need to viral if gun is a viral

Enervate huh

That's something

[old marsh]

yup. i had shit primary and melee. solo'ed this week's ETA with Rhino and Kompressa.

[old marsh]

u can also drop fulmination for target cracker. for more dmg but i wanted more spread

[weary elbow]

Could anyone share a build for Amesha and Imperator Vandal?

[opal leaf]

For sure

[oak saffron]

Best frames to run arcane hotshot on other than nova? I have it on mesa as well but i heard that it isnt actually that good

[astral cipher]

I use mess a pretty decent amount and I don't ever see her regulators ever doing headshots just insanely high crit hits instead

So maybe going with the arcane that increases Crit chance with over shield and maybe finding a way to get over shield with maybe Pillage or something similar? Someone correct me though cause I'm also relearning how to build her myself

[opal leaf]

Uriel

[old marsh]

NovaKong

basically use anyone who can spread heat.

[timber sparrow]

protea!!!

apparently its not best in slot but like it works

[opal leaf]

Won't Protea would have Heat inherent thingy on her when that happened?

[versed harbor]

wut

[mighty flare]

protea doesnt have to run a heat-dps weapon, she just uses her turrets for passive armor shred/cc/stacking hot shot

[opal leaf]

Ohhh I see I see

Gotta write that down

Bc I was warned this a lot when I want to try or use Ophanim Eyes or Nullstar

[mighty flare]

there's https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1474844387543482479 you can look at for protea tips

[mighty flare]

similar thing for those too with disinherit, you just dont run a heat-dps weapon

[opal leaf]

Well thanks for that, probably not gonna Main Protea as I have Omamori on her 4

Clesrly that tells I have skill issue on Protes hahaha

[astral cipher]

Ember is an obvious choice as well

[opal leaf]

But it's fun to learn

[astral cipher]

But ember feels more like a caster so I'm not sure how much value you'll get from hotshot on her

[opal leaf]

A lot of tennos say this

But her Weapon Platforming sucks

[mighty flare]

ember is a weak caster, she does better at platforming

but shes meh at that too so

low-tier overall

[versed harbor]

ember is better at being fashion bot

[astral cipher]

Fair, she's been fun to run in steel path but for sure I'd rather be running my wisp or revenant for even higher difficulty content

[opal leaf]

Like yeah she does better with platforming

But I heard constant repetition of Embers Platforming is bad

[mighty flare]

its not great, but its a lie to says its bad, its usually better than being a caster

[opal leaf]

I see

Would note that on ember part

[versed harbor]

shes better as a platform but she doesnt have that much to buff weapons with and shes also buffing heat which is rly flawed anyway

[opal leaf]

Well... Mental notes

Tho Zephyr tho...

[astral cipher]

Zephyr with Pull is fun playstle

[opal leaf]

Oh my I'm liking her fr

I never had thjs feeling, of liking a frame... Aside from when I first got Vauban Prime

I like her 3 tbh

Her 3 and 4 are so good

I have Omamori on her 2 fr

Bro Zephyr is IMPOSSIBLE to get hit by anything.... Except melee

And her 1 makes you camp in the air hahahah

[astral cipher]

How I feel with equinox but I am just sad that a lot of people use her for nuking and then generally she's not very strong

[opal leaf]

Same with Loki and Ash

But now I am Maining a lot of stuff rn

[versed harbor]

ye equinox is unfortunate I miss when her nuke was more niche lol

I still like a pure nightnox build from time to time

[astral cipher]

I just want the support side to not have that stupid 3 ring damage reduction cause man you can't make her range any larger to get that maximum damage reduction within that inner ring

Which I get that it exists for a reason but it feels very inconsistent

[versed harbor]

ye u gotta just ignore that part tbh she cant tank rly

[old marsh]

Ember is a group caster. unfortunately thats where things get iffy. she is more and less powerful in a group at the same time. they really gotta rework her kit for a better synergy. yes, u can take her to level cap with a weapon but u can do that already with pretty much all frames

[astral cipher]

I'm currently running a Silence Limbo build atm

[versed harbor]

just fully rework heat atp

[opal leaf]

Tbh... After my 1 week break, I'm Maining Zephyr tbh

This time

I'm committing on Maining Gauss, Sevagoth and Zephyr

[old marsh]

community will rage. DE loves community so that aint happening lol

[versed harbor]

community will rage no matter what u do fr

[quiet laurel]

Imagine new stacks overwriting the heat and faction multipliers of previous values if its higher than the already existing values
But thats too much to ask for

[versed harbor]

heat getting this massive buff and still getting mogged by elec RIP but atleast itd be way better feeling

[astral cipher]

Currently teaching a couple of my friends who are brand new to this game is so much fun because I get to modding and it's just like their brains melt once they realize it's more complicated then they first understood

[timber sparrow]

butt

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/tight-tight-gif-6396435647108975705

[astral cipher]

And one of them is extremely dead set on using the Kunais as a permanent secondary and I'm like buddy nooo there are better throwables

[quiet laurel]

Was searching for "too tight" gif, I found a gem mine

[mighty flare]

kunais get an incarnon upgrade later, so not the worse thing ever

[astral cipher]

Very true but still better options too

[quiet laurel]

The incarnon transformation simulator incarnon

Oh you have your incarnon? Not anymore

Go give head to more grineers to get 2 more shots of incarnon

[old marsh]

but kunai and despair have incarnons so let him. also coda pox exists so game is complete

[astral cipher]

Oh yeah no I'm not telling him that he should switch I'm just letting him know of other options if he reaches a wall using them. It's honestly a fresh breath of air watching them explore the world for the first time ever

[mighty flare]

simply dont run acuity :clueless:

[old marsh]

i wish my friends did. been advertising it for years but no dice

[lucid flint]

just dig into the math

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[lucid flint]

if they’re stem majors they’ll get it

[astral cipher]

I kinda framed it as a game for the 9-5 of if you work alot and can't play a whole lot you can craft what you want to help go up in level while you work then hopefully it'll be done so you can have more progress

[lucid flint]

there’s a bunch of fun in calculating the highest damage numbers by hand once u stack enough layers it all comes together like a puzzle

[inner raptor]

2026 is felarx still worth building? DA gets attenuated, shotgun gets hella attenuated

[lucid flint]

yes it’s still a good shotgun

stats-wise the zariman weapons even without the incarnon mode tend to outperform most of the other weapons

[inner raptor]

which skill is mirage's helminth slot

nvm

im dumb

[wary forge]

Ye

[shell anchor]

is this good?

[acoustic vapor]

not for lunge just for like when were mocing on all 4's, mb

[wary forge]

Is this pure alt fire or hybrid

I would just go viral heat or corrosive heat don’t do isotopes u also need Crit damage and fire rate

[violet silo]

enervate but no target cracker?

[wary forge]

Wondering the same thing

[shell anchor]

ok

[old marsh]

u can remove exilus unless u r using shade/huras

also what zach suggested

[shell anchor]

how about now?

[old marsh]

swap frostbite with scorch. and u can even drop scorch. add the 2nd Gal mod

and u can still drop exilus. not needed

[violet silo]

elements should be like mag heat or viral heat

[old marsh]

or viral elec

[violet silo]

hm

[wary forge]

That first build was fine just drop convulsion for cracker and isotopes for lethal torrent

[brittle sleet]

Can't do viral elec on Glory it's innate heat

[old marsh]

oh ye. i didnt even notice cracker lol

[sand steppe]

Does anybody know good weapons I can use with Uriel as a MR8 ?

[wary forge]

You also don’t need scorch

[old marsh]

ngl i havent played since launch

[violet silo]

ykw here https://www.underframe.site/featured_builds/thrax-glory
just use this.

[old marsh]

totally forgot

[opal leaf]

Well Uriel can kill anything on his own so... Why need a weapon

[old marsh]

weapons plat Uriel

[opal leaf]

Ewwwww

(satire... Just... Joking... Don't attack me)

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/sultan-running-with-chappal-to-hit-him-gangs-of-wasseypur-gif-21394833

[opal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/zephyr-deluxe-shit-warframe-pants-gif-20544762

[rose wedge]

If i equip a staff with boral's contempt on my jade or my titania, will the ability work on any of their ults?

[violet silo]

no

wait
I dont think so

[limpid loom]

Does anyone have a good loadout to make Atlas the One Punch Frame?

[gleaming falcon]

Why doesn't the left one have guardian

[crude prawn]

Ignis Wrath? I think that an okay if you want

[inner raptor]

damn i forgot i cant subsume roar on mirage -___-

[crude prawn]

I did expect Roar Mirage but then realize cannot

[wary forge]

Smite flexible for [Primed Pressure Point], [Drifting Contact] or [Primed Reach]

[velvet pulsar]

No, Smite is flexible for Tesla Bank.

[proud drift]

Hay everyone does anyone know any builds or tips to make braton prime, lex prime, and Nautilus prime strong?

[dark harbor]

i could finally build my valkyr

i would like to know something if anyone knows

does kullervo helmith hability count as an execution?

[opal leaf]

Remove all the mods... And go modless

(just joking, good job man, as for builds I really don't know Valkyr)

[dark harbor]

the thing if this works does it count when using valkyr ultimate active?

[hexed lodge]

Spill your secrets about Tesla Bank

me wanting to improve my tesla bank helminth setup

[dark harbor]

mmm so i builded her for crit chance as her crit chance is already 50%

then i use

5 cristal shards for crit damage

[hexed lodge]

is Persistence even good for valkyr? i thought she could tank, even at lvlcap

[dark harbor]

yeah

i can't die as gladiator finnese even doesn't let me die

and ultimate has life steal

[opal leaf]

Well there are a LOT of Valkyr users here... And Valkyr is one of the frames I'm bored at using cause simply she is just too strong in my hands

Same reason with Nova, and Nuke Sevagoth (as I'm using CC Platforming Seva)

[dark harbor]

and i never run out of energy

[dark harbor]

true

[hexed lodge]

but that's not Persistence at work... that's just valkyr herself making you that buffed up

[opal leaf]

So I don't know how to really mod her in the first place, I just refuse to get her hahaha

[dark harbor]

i use that for energy sustain

[shell anchor]

is my paris build good?

[dark harbor]

as i have equilibrium

and i allways lose HP i allways gain energy

as you can see you lose HP gladiator finnese don't kill me at the start of the fight well anyways i use it for crit chance

[hard dove]

where augment

that one from father whatever its called

[shell anchor]

haven't bought a adapter

[hexed lodge]

how? there is no Rage or Hunter Adrenaline? and equilibrium doesn't care if you have missing health or not, it still picks up health orbs

[dark harbor]

okay so

imagine you get hit and you lose HP

[opal leaf]

See this is why I don't want to use Valkyr hahaha

Seva is complicated enough

Now we have Maxxing Valkyr

[dark harbor]

there are health orbs on the ground

equilibrium works when you pick health orbs

and you gain energy right

[hexed lodge]

right, but...

again, you don't need to be hit to pick up orbs with Equil

[dark harbor]

ye

this is the energy i have with a lot of armor

[hexed lodge]

not saying the build is bad, just that Persistence seems to be really out of place

[dark harbor]

and if i use my ultimate i have over 1200 energy

[opal leaf]

I mean... If you have Hunter Adrenaline

Why use Equilibrium

It's just my mindset bc

If I can sustain energy by being a tank, why would I need Equi

It's the same in concept of Persistence Valkyr

[dark harbor]

well you can use that also it works

but as i have other source of get health

[hexed lodge]

true, but there is no H.Adrenaline or Rage in the build

[dark harbor]

when i get energy it works for sustain for me

[opal leaf]

In a Persistence Valkyr build?

[hexed lodge]

#builds-discussion message

[opal leaf]

Ayo hahahha

[placid vale]

Which ability should I get into mag?

[solar reef]

mobile or stationary

[placid vale]

Eh?

[solar reef]

Do you want to hold up an area for a long time

or be more mobile

For a stationary set up I suggest blood altar

[opal leaf]

Remove Equi and slot in Hunter Adrenaline

Like I get the whole Equi thing

A double sustain on Frames where you can get Energy and Health at the same time

I get that. I use it in some way

But we are talking Persistence Valkyr here

A frame that is very popular on using Rage or Hunter Adrenaline bc Valkyr is just that Angry Cat

[placid vale]

Idk, I wanna kill

[solar reef]

For a mobile set up you’d just run breach surge or a weapon buff of your choice

[solar reef]

this is so unhelpful

😭

[mighty flare]

theres lots of choices, pick whatever: #1489188519929970838 message

[dark harbor]

my mag is like this i use her to kill bosses mostly with the second one

[solar reef]

im thinking about trying Mind Control Mag soon

[opal leaf]

A: I need builds
B: in what specific situation
A: idk... I just wanna build

[hexed lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[opal leaf]

Though now I'm gere

What's a good subsume... Fr Zephyr..... I'm already thinking roar hahahah but ye

[glass moon]

tome mods work on dante right

[solar reef]

weapon buffing subsume of choice

Spectrorage is a choice but imo its sorta just a waste

[opal leaf]

Explain what you mean?

[solar reef]

what do you want me to explain bruh

roar/xatas/eclipse/nourish

weapon buffing abilities

[opal leaf]

Oh

Damn this why I need to drink Milk before reading shit XDD

Sorry for that Malz

[glass moon]

what mods do i run for this if i subsume over his 1

dont think the alt fire tome mods will do anything

[dark harbor]

but does adrenaline hunter give more energy than equilibrium?

[gleaming falcon]

if you're taking a lot of health damage then yes

[dark harbor]

idk i ask bcs with equilibrium it gives 110% more energy no?

[gleaming falcon]

it gives 110% of whatever health you picked up, usually 50
So 55 energy per health orb

[dark harbor]

ah well is kinda fine

[latent adder]

Viral electric encumber

I have a wordwarden variant

[opal leaf]

It's just with Hunter Adrenaline, since you are constantly getting hit that energy will always be full no matter what

You kill to get Hp orbs, and let them hit you and such and your goated

Unless you spam so much than you are getting hit then you're screwed

[dark harbor]

nah i don't really spam that much

but this build works fine i never run out of energy too

[thorny hollow]

can i use hot shot instead of arcane avenger in nova to make null star crit?

[gleaming falcon]

hot shot multiplies the base crit chance
What's the base cc of null stars?

[opal leaf]

It's ok
. Just telling you what I think of it hahahah

But it's good to consider it just incase

After all it's warframe

[hexed lodge]

0%

[dark harbor]

what im trying to do is trying to make my ultimate allways stay on 12x combo multiplier

[gleaming falcon]

rhetorical question

[dark harbor]

but i need something to let me execute

idk if kullervo works as an execution hability

[hexed lodge]

no i get what you are saying, but Nullstar has an innate 0% crit chance

[mighty flare]

i thought it just shut down the targets ai

or just stuck them in place

[solar reef]

ts so tragic

[mighty flare]

yea that

[solar reef]

god I hate that

because having a moving Blood Altar/Well of Life would be so GOATed

[dark harbor]

do you guys know if this works an excution hability?

[solar reef]

its explicitly heavy attacks

[dark harbor]

i see

thank you ❤️

[solar reef]

it will still buff finisher damage by way of Crit

but it does not open into finishers

[hexed lodge]

they are probably asking to build their Crescendo stacks easily
#builds-discussion message

is valkyr's 3 good enough for it then?

[solar reef]

crescendo is a choice I guess

[formal glade]

is rhino prime worth it?

[solar reef]

sure

why wouldnt he be

[hard dove]

do you like a simple frame where the job is just shoot and keep an ability active

[solar reef]

if you enjoy rhino why wouldnt you get rhino prime

[hard dove]

unironically plays kinda like the guy in your pfp

[formal glade]

i mean 80p is expensive and all i see is that he has 50 more armore than his original

[solar reef]

its also fashion + mastery

[formal glade]

mastery?

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/gabagool-shon-son-im-crine-james-gandolfini-sopranos-gif-5632752440652965130

[hexed lodge]

fresh meat

[solar reef]

levelling items (up to mastered) gives you mastery affinity

Warframes for a total of 6000(200 per level until max rank)

[formal glade]

someday ig, when i get 80 or so plat

[solar reef]

also, Rhino’s prime version gets the most important stat boost a prime frame can get

[formal glade]

roar?

[solar reef]

0.05 increase to base movement

[formal glade]

bruh

[shut rampart]

Because I want to use Kdrives

[solar reef]

Movement Speed is imo the biggest that can get improved with a prime version

[formal glade]

so rhino primed version run as fast as any other frame

[gleaming falcon]

What does this have to do with it

[solar reef]

he sits at 1.0 base sprint speed

[shut rampart]

Merulina is a kdrive

[gleaming falcon]

yes, and

[hexed lodge]

Merulina Guardian augment lets your ride Merulina
Loyal Merulina is the augment that doesn't let your ride Merulina

[formal glade]

apprently buying parts is cheaper than buying sets

[hard dove]

if youre gonna use k-drive meruilina guardian is very good

plus it procs archon intensify

[solar reef]

i remember when a rhino set would put you back 300 plat

[shut rampart]

Oh idk I think it off and forgot to slot it again

[wary forge]

Depends on what it is but ye also if takes up more trades which if u trade a lot you might care about

[formal glade]

why is the trade have a thing like that?

[timber sparrow]

sets are usually cheaper actually

[violet silo]

I dont think so

like, take voruna prime
full set: 65
parts: 30-7-7-18

its usually something like that, where the difference is barely noticeable

[old marsh]

Probably referring to Tome Mod bundle

[violet silo]

but parts are usually up to 10 plat cheaper than the set

[violet silo]

maybe

[glass moon]

would yall consider the coda hirudo to be better than the praedos

for an influence build

[hexed lodge]

(coda) hirudo has less attack speed and status chance than praedos so... probably not?

[glass moon]

damn

what about the uh coda pathocyst

[hexed lodge]

Not sure if better, but coda pathocyst is a really good Influence user cause of forced viral on detonation

[drowsy drum]

How good is arcane fury for atlas

[barren birch]

vinqibus crafted lets gooooooo

now how to build it :<

anyone got the deets on a build for it :0

[solar reef]

its just additive mlee damage

depending on your set up you’ll see more use out of other arcanes

[wary forge]

its good

not like u really more dmg on atlast tho

[glass moon]

ayo @solar reef syam is good with kullervo roar right

[solar reef]

For melee you’d just build CRABSWEAT

[solar reef]

why wouldnt it be

[near vortex]

Saving a total of 3 plat

[glass moon]

idk

what makes it good

[solar reef]

Its one of the best melees in the game on its own

[glass moon]

over something like the harmony

[solar reef]

multiCO projectile

[glass moon]

oh

[solar reef]

it really likes priming

[severe bough]

Syam is toof

[brittle sleet]

Especially for an influence build I don't think it's right to directly compare these two, personally

[glass moon]

if only there was a way to make the e button do a heavy attack

[brittle sleet]

If you just wanna ask DPS that's one thing, but both are more of utility weapons than they are DPS weapons

[solar reef]

but yeah Syam’s projectile is multiCO, something that just inherently makes a weapon better

[brittle sleet]

And the DPS is definitely not gonna be straightforward I'm sure given the progenitor bonus adding to both Coda Hirudo's base damage and weighting by a lot

[modest sedge]

which is better, tenet quanta with combustion beam, or kuva sobek with acid shells?

[glass moon]

so ill need to prime every heavy projectile

?

[solar reef]

not too heavily

[barren birch]

see everyone says this term as if it isn't giberish

[glass moon]

will something like this work

[solar reef]

because it isnt giberish

[glass moon]

as a primer

[solar reef]

its an acronym

[barren birch]

to new players it is :<

as much as im a new player at 400 hours but that's besides the point. ;-;

[solar reef]

it also doesnt need priming, priming just makes it that much better

just the usual viral/corrosive does wonders

[solar reef]

it works if you think you can build alt fire consistantly enough

[glass moon]

damn

was planning to use ninjases blast elec build for it

this thing

[solar reef]

yeah it should be fine

[glass moon]

alr

holy shit you werent lying bruh

this thing is crazy

100m projectile damage at rank 0

with radiation lol

[inner raptor]

use a primer primary/secondary/companion for funny numbers

[glass moon]

this thing does so much more damage than my harmony

[solar reef]

why radiation

[glass moon]

put electricity mods for influence

but the wave becomes radiation

[inner raptor]

harmony needs status damage + duration and affliction

[solar reef]

you have to mod off heat

[glass moon]

yeah

[solar reef]

thats why blast is present

[glass moon]

i just dont have enough mod space

level 0 with 0 formas and already does more than my harmony

ts frying me man

[solar reef]

also harmony uses a very specific set up

[glass moon]

damn

[inner raptor]

harmony is easier to use with kullervo imo. syam WA is teleport + melee. i think it follows the stance heavy instead of the ranged wave projectile

[glass moon]

no wonder why it lowk sucks for me

takes like 2 heavy attacks with 5x combo to kill some exilus units in descendia

[solar reef]

just dont spam WA

[inner raptor]

yeah point wa on the ground

[solar reef]

just teleport WA for the duration and heavy attack normally

[glass moon]

thats what i do

makes me look like a laggy ass mf though lol

and sometimes the teleport gets hindered by small things

[solar reef]

though you don’t need the projectile anyways

[glass moon]

i tp on the ground and somehow tp up

[solar reef]

Also Harmony hits real 2.1b no problem on kullervo

if you were having damage issues its a use issue

[inner raptor]

its a mod issue

[glass moon]

prolly is

i just spam heavy attacks with no priming

[solar reef]

the only real issue with harmony atp is that afflictions just doesnt work with eximus anymore

[glass moon]

is my syam projectile supposed to be doing mainly blast

i see the red crit and it shows the blast symbol

[trim sierra]

anyone got recs for p caliban weapons at mr 13? i use the ak a lot but idk if it’ll synergise well with caliban, though i heard subsuming nourish for second slot is good

[solar reef]

if you have blast modded, yeah

[solar reef]

any weapon works with caliban

and yeah, nourish over his 4 is his go-to subsume

[trim sierra]

Oh his 4? Not 2?

[solar reef]

obviously
armor strip can be replicated through external means

[glass moon]

will influence still proc even if the big crit icon shows blast

[trim sierra]

Fair enough

[solar reef]

what does crit have to do with the status here

[glass moon]

oh yeah

[old marsh]

Hear me out. shock trooper caliban

[solar reef]

that is certainly a choice

[old marsh]

and then i paint my Cal full blue

BlueBan

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[solar reef]

but yeah as long as you have electric in the weight it will hit from time to time

it should always have blast damage on heavy attacks since the heat is 100% heat with its projectiles

[glass moon]

alr

i also saw this

should i drop molt augmented on kullervo for arcane fury

[solar reef]

no

you’re getting more out of augmented with roar and wa

[glass moon]

alr

thanks for the build help man

[solar reef]

if you want to double check you can always just run the numbers on Underframe

[rose wedge]

any recommendations for operator and amp arcanes?

[glass moon]

is the verglas good for priming or are there any sentinel weapons out there that would fit the nautilus better for purely priming

got this on it rn

[solar reef]

eradicate and onslought are musts

[hexed lodge]

Nautilus mainly primes with Manifold Bond, if that's what you're looking for

[rose wedge]

onslaught is about operator energy?

[solar reef]

after depleting your energy you get 180% CC at R5

so you just spam your operator abilities to drain it in like a second

[rose wedge]

not warframe energy right?

[glass moon]

no like

if i need a sentinel weapon for purely priming stuff for CO

would the verglas be as good as something like the dirigas weapon

[rose wedge]

and it combos with erradicate, sounds great fr

[solar reef]

only operator energy

[rose wedge]

thanks for the help

what about operator arcanes tho?

[solar reef]

thats just preference

[rose wedge]

oh, sounds easier this way

[drowsy pelican]

Is this a good build to go with harrow

[rose wedge]

alr, thanks again

[glass moon]

whats the best sentinel weapon for priming status effects

[solar reef]

you usually dont use sentinel weapons to prime

you use bond mods

[glass moon]

yeah i got bond mods

all im thinking is like is there some sentinel weap with big aoe

or chaining shots

[solar reef]

imo if you want status priming you should step away from nautilus

[drowsy pelican]

Hound supremacy

[solar reef]

diriga does exactly what you’re asking for through its precept

or hound

[dire terrace]

Malllz can i ask smth

https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1500489300754825367 can you answer my question here perchance?

[glass moon]

guess ill get the diriga then

[drowsy pelican]

Goated PFP

[solar reef]

they’re also using a melee setup , meaning they’re solving hounds biggest issue (survivability)

[viscid bane]

How much worse is Doughty vs influence on Motovore?

[drowsy pelican]

They have a survivability issue? Just use pack leader and diversified denial.

[glass moon]

hound?

[solar reef]

you literally just answered yourself

[glass moon]

as in the kubrows?

[solar reef]

Primed Pack Leader is their saving grace

[drowsy pelican]

Robot dogs

[solar reef]

.

[hexed lodge]

welp if it's weapon sentinels solely... then verglas it's indeed the best one, if not, Cryota or Sweeper Prime if you feeling fancy

[solar reef]

Outside of melee set ups they like to just cripple over and die

[solar reef]

Generally speaking, verglas isn’t the best primer secondary by any stretch

[hexed lodge]

how's it not with such sc and fire rate?
i mean outside of Manifold bond

[solar reef]

ST

Helstrum would be the best raw primer (not using bond mods)

Of course using bond mods the best “primer” would be either burst laser primer or laser rifle prime since they get to 50% CC without a riven

[hexed lodge]

you gotta sell me on it now cause i haven't seen that mentioned ever lol

[mighty flare]

no aoe or chaining

[solar reef]

aoe explosions with an ok status chance

its just been rendered obsolete since we just use bond mods on everything

it also doesnt hit 50% cc for Tenacious

[hexed lodge]

aight i'll take your word

[glass moon]

what does the diriga do

[solar reef]

neat side note, helstrum’s explosions dont need LOS

for what thats worth

they’re radius is too small for that to really matter but still neat

but yeah this is pretty much all you need to know about it

Each missile has a 3m AOE

[drowsy pelican]

Am I valing my kyr properly

[quiet laurel]

I dont even know where to begin

this is like one of those huge school projects that are 40% of your grade

[hexed lodge]

priming with Manifold bond

[quiet laurel]

I'd like to hear your reasoning for the shard choices and frame build to know where I can begin

[drowsy pelican]

Uh

More health from arcane Belicose

[glass moon]

the epitaph still the best primer secondary?

[quiet laurel]

no, status quantity sucks

[drowsy pelican]

And armor for primary bulwark

[quiet laurel]

bulwark for a valkyr loadout?

[drowsy pelican]

Idk sometimes I feel the need to use my primary

[solar reef]

Kompressa or Nukor

[quiet laurel]

I mean no primary even comes close to the instant raw dmg her claws do so thats very interesting

[hexed lodge]

For status AoE? ye, that and Nukor, otherwise Kompressa, catabolyst and/or plinx are better for single-targets

[glass moon]

the kompressa wtf

how

[hexed lodge]

innate viral, can mod for corr too

[solar reef]

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/B61_eUAcfo4

[glass moon]

alr

[solar reef]

innate viral some of the highest status output in the game

[glass moon]

hope ninjase got a build for it

[solar reef]

comfortable aoe for semi-close crowds

[glass moon]

is this good enough

[quiet laurel]

but uhh you wanna use casting and purple shards with crit dmg for melees
for a valkyr build you usually dont even need to mod survivability at all cause her passive exists
just dumb everything either into range + strength if you wanna use her 3 or go full strength + some duration if you dumb her 3
for her claws you really wanna go blood rush, galvanized steel, more range and probs CO in case your have a good companion primer

[fierce lark]

im here to give the public service announcement of secondary priming being dead yw

[hexed lodge]

for priming? yes, altho Augur is the flex slot

[quiet laurel]

@drowsy pelican

[quiet laurel]

we out here priming with primaries

[glass moon]

crazy

[solar reef]

the only time i still use manual priming period is LC Disruption

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/british-cop-screaming-screaming-sad-gif-10576833416044093400

[solar reef]

wheres its not half as needed as it was since Demo’s are made out of gas station toilet paper now

[fierce lark]

lmao i should've said gun priming xd

manual priming?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[fierce lark]

bo prime(r)

[quiet laurel]

imagine priming vro, grab your magistar and lets slam

[solar reef]

using weapons to prime rather than passively using companions or abilities

manually priming them yourself

[drowsy pelican]

I subsumed over her 3 for sentient wrath

[fierce lark]

put the tazicor in the bag

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

[quiet laurel]

isnt subsumed sentient wrath just straight up worse in the dmg vulnerability it gives

[solar reef]

its a cone instead of a radial iirc

[hexed lodge]

my pet does the killing, i am the primer

[oak saffron]

what subsume should i put on an arcane hotshot nova build?

[solar reef]

it also doesnt do Tau

[fierce lark]

subsumed wrath has 2x the range of warcry but only in a frontal, and the effect is weaker

[hexed lodge]

when in doubt, Roar

[glass moon]

the syam is good with priming right

[solar reef]

you keep asking the same questions

[glass moon]

what if i lowkey cant prime because the mode got no pets

like circuit etc

[solar reef]

it should be fine

[glass moon]

alr

[solar reef]

circuit has so many options in decrees for aoe status priming

[hexed lodge]

even then, without priming decrees will just break whatever you got in the arsenal

[cedar haven]

What wepons should I be using for wukong?

[quiet laurel]

either you go magistar route or the iron staff route

there is no other option

[cedar haven]

I mean gun for his twin

[quiet laurel]

a primer

[compact cypress]

whats a good helminth for slam mirage🥺🥺

besides wrathful i cba to farm another kullervo

[thorny widget]

any notes on this xaku mod setup?

[hexed peak]

What should I change

[solar reef]

jagged edge 😭

[hexed peak]

yeah I was gonna put primed orikin smite on maybe?

[solar reef]

that would be where you run reach or smite

[fierce lark]

weeping wounds instead of pressure point because poopoo

[solar reef]

you should be running smite instead of ppp and reach over jagged edge

[hexed peak]

ok

[solar reef]

oh that too

[fierce lark]

how does light attack afflictions hate work 🤔

[celest sparrow]

is there any way to increase the dmg of this build (besides replacing augur with hornet strike)

[solar reef]

heavy attack

on tennokai

[fierce lark]

galvanized chamber instead of piss pestilence

deadhead > merciless, and assuming zylok isn't multico hornet strike wouldn't be good either

heat mod with casc flare perhaps

[solar reef]

its less useful than it was pre-afflictions change but its still generally the best in-slot

unless you build gas/blast influence but thats different

[fierce lark]

with mentors only allowing tennokai every 7 hits on avg that sounds not great

[solar reef]

they should be using disciplines

[fierce lark]

if i can ever be bothered to install hate incarnon first thing im trying is shock trooper influence

[solar reef]

works great

especially since its self-sufficient with burning hate like that

versus blast/gas influence set ups needing an external primer

just remember how vital this mod is

[celest sparrow]

i would but my riven gives me both crit chance and toxic

[fierce lark]

yeah so you go corrosive heat (or viral heat preferably if you dont have external viral) and then heat is kinda just there as added elemental dmg + enables casc flare

[old marsh]

Sentient Incision >>> Burning Hate

[fierce lark]

which is better than deadhead on body shots, the same on headshots and doesn't require kills to stack

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-peggle-puzz-mid-video-high-gif-553759000954454273

[fierce lark]

more like he gets pegged mid video

[quiet laurel]

where are you getting all these new brainrot gifs from

[solar reef]

i just really like peggle

i have a back log of peggle gifs ive compiled over the years

[timid pivot]

Is this good or mid?

[quiet laurel]

wtf is a shaku

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-peggle-gif-17153459959385194007

[timid pivot]

Idk I don't have it

[solar reef]

rare nunchuck moment

[old marsh]

It’s the nikondi thing

[solar reef]

the weapons super mid

[old marsh]

Like one is linked to another

[solar reef]

a nunchuck

[timid pivot]

Ah damn

[fierce lark]

nuncucks

[modest sedge]

yeah, the shaku's just an ips pair of nunchucks that are a placeholder until you can get your hands on ninkondi prime

[severe bough]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1150797852029767781/1500375305528016947/meme.gif

[solar reef]

nunchuxk enthusiasts when they get to spin around two sticks (they deliver less force than a pole and are twice as inefficient)

[old marsh]

Only Nikondi P is decent as k recall

Need to check which ones I got

[solar reef]

ninkondi incarnon makes stereotypical Wuxia martial artist yelps like “Ha-Yawh!” when you swing it

ts would be so peak

[modest sedge]

yeah, the rest are mastery fodder... unless if you really like the weapon

[bitter dove]

I just got gammacor incarnon, is it worth wasting my forma and endo over? And does anyone have a good build

[modest sedge]

it's fun.

that's really all I have for it though.

[solar reef]

if you enjoy it sure

[bitter dove]

Never used it

[modest sedge]

have you ever used the simulor? the incarnon form for the gammacor is similar, but bigger radius and instant damage

[bitter dove]

Huh, so it's worth it if I used it for sp? I alr have braton prime incarnon but having a secondary incarnon might be a good idea

[modest sedge]

if you're talking sp, you'd be better off investing in the laetum if you want an incarnon

[bitter dove]

I'd have to wait for it tho

[modest sedge]

that little peashooter turns into a full-on baddie blaster when fully kitted out

[bitter dove]

I see

Aight I'll just let it sit there

[bitter dove]

Thank you for your time mate

[modest sedge]

anytime!

[icy urchin]

random question about rivens, ik weapons are released with rlly low disposition and its then increased over time and never nerfed, but if/when its increased do my existing rivens just immediately get stat increases? does it increase after rolling it? or is it only new ones

[modest sedge]

I think the stats only increase after rolling it... but I'm not that well-versed in rivens.

All I know is that they make my guns shoot harder.

[icy urchin]

fair, cus i got an enkaus riven with fairly mediocre stats on it at the moment and since its new the disposition sucks, i might wait to see if it increases before rolling it

[lucid flint]

increased automatically

otherwise my jupiter would have been stuck at 99% crit chance 🥀

its at 101 now

[icy urchin]

nice

like this is a theoretically good riven if the disposition was higher but atm it doesnt feel worth using

[solar reef]

its also for enkaus so like

meh

[icy urchin]

yeah

i rlly like the vibe of the weapon but it feels like its missing something idk

[solar reef]

as an actual its pretty mediocre

as a follie stick the weapon itself isnt good you’re just using it for the ink spread

its biggest issue is that its a ST beam weapon that doesnt chain or spread. But its slower at ST TTK than the AOE/Chaining beam weapons

[icy urchin]

just my opinion on messing with the weapon for a little while it feels as if it should have some kinda minor AoE effect in some capacity

[modest sedge]

like the beamer kitgun for primaries?

[solar reef]

like yeah the 35% insta gimmick is neat its just like

You still just kill enemies faster with other beam weapons

[icy urchin]

it feels like maybe the 35% think should also like do a mini explosion or something idk

but also that could be rlly dumb cus imagine the chain reactions xd

[solar reef]

the problem with this is that then things like lash, cyte, xatas, or roar come into play

[icy urchin]

i imagine if it did that then people would just spam the alt fire with other damage sources to nuke entire maps

[solar reef]

doesnt work that well

[icy urchin]

which is a fair think to want to avoid

[solar reef]

the alt fire still requires the enemy to be below 35%

its just that when it does a percentage AOE it becomes prone to those features

[icy urchin]

but yeah i want some sorta status primary cus i dont rlly have one i might look at a few more

[modest sedge]

you can theoretically do that with saryn's toxic lash coupled with combustion beam, but that'd take a lot of investment

[solar reef]

as in like

a status primer primary or a dot status primary

[modest sedge]

like, why are you investing so much into an okay weapon kind of investment

[icy urchin]

like dot status kinda thing cus i wanna have something that works nicely with nezha 4 augment

[solar reef]

coda buba, phantasma

something like burston for heat inherent

[modest sedge]

yeah, phantasma with primary debilitate gets nutty

[icy urchin]

i think i had normal phantasma at some point and didnt invest much into it before getting rid of it for slots, i can see myself getting prime it felt kinda nice

[modest sedge]

well, with the prime and a frame like cyte, oraxia, or saryn... you can get some insane status stacks on an enemy and destroy them with statuses. pair it with the mecha set, and you nuke an entire room

[icy urchin]

yeah

[modest sedge]

giving it blast will also make it have inherent aoe

[icy urchin]

the thing i want a status primary for is a nezha build im planning when i get other stuff for it

[modest sedge]

whatchu cooking up in the kitchen?

[icy urchin]

i wanna stack 5 primary status chance shards on a copy of nezha with the 4 augment and get some status weapon to do insane spread damage

with like shock trooper subsumed or something

[modest sedge]

an option is to get hate with burning hate, melee influence, and a riven that vastly increases status chance.

getting those three with the mecha set would do the same thing

[icy urchin]

i have wrathful advance on a slot on my current nezha to do that actually xd

i dont have hate but i do similar with other melees

i have 1 copy of nezha prime atm with 6 different caster builds with different subsumes and i want a second one specifically just for the primary status archon shards lmao

[modest sedge]

ah... well, another option is to use the paris incarnon. it has an upgrade that increases the base status chance, and a unique mod you can buy from father that increases its status by 300%.

then, you can get the mecha set for your kubrow and mod it for fire damage

if they die, they spread fire in a massive chain reaction

[icy urchin]

oh yea i think i saw that, i should rlly look at incarnon weapons tbh i havent at all

and yea my current only pet is a sunika kubrow that i perma run mecha on

[modest sedge]

THIS is the best one for that build!

[icy urchin]

i got it from the quest and then looked at stuff and everything said it was the best kinda kubrow so i got lucky xd

[modest sedge]

highest base status chance on its claws, and it's an ips focus too.

[icy urchin]

i dont rlly have the best mods for its claws rn though but i still see the random occasional like 300k hit from it

[modest sedge]

that's all it really needs on sp. just put on the mecha mod that lets it inherit your primary's status chance, and any mods that give it fire and status damage, and it'll go ham on its own

[barren birch]

ok so, my guilty checklist. I have lateum for damage, xata whisper nezha as my frame, kuva gratler built out. is building my amesha all that's left?

[modest sedge]

I think so... that, and a necramech

[barren birch]

I NEED TO BUILD MY NECRAMECH UP TOO??

[icy urchin]

i rlly need to stop putting off getting xaku to subsume them cus i rlly want xatas whisper, but their materials are annoying to farm xd

[barren birch]

Why do I need to build up my necramech??

[modest sedge]

depends on the content. what are you trying to do, exactly?

[barren birch]

just clear guilty

[shut rampart]

Run afflictions than influence for hate

[barren birch]

anyways ill jump back to the necramech worry later. How should I build my Amesha?

[icy urchin]

as a current alternative to the hate thing with nezha im just doing dark sword slam stuff and occasionally falcor influence stuff

[barren birch]

hate thing with Nezha?

[modest sedge]

this is also great for late game. Highly recommend

[icy urchin]

hate with burning hate augment and nezha 4 augment to just nuke everything

i also have arca titron and messed with it for a little while, maybe ill replace dark sword with it as my slam weapon eventually

[modest sedge]

if you'd rather use abilities instead of weapons to nuke, you can subsume temple's pyrotechnics onto him to stack up insane amounts of heat procs

either works to get the job done, but I've personally enjoyed being a caster more.

[icy urchin]

yeah, i personally havent done pyrotechnics specifically but i know the ragdoll interaction with it thats does like insane heat stacks

[shut rampart]

@icy urchin are you trying to make hate better or look for an alternative to hate

[icy urchin]

i currently have a build slot for null star, shock, wyrd scythes, wrathful advance, aqua blades, and 1 subsumeless slot

im slowly farming gauss for thermal sunder too

[icy urchin]

neither tbh it just came up while talking about potential status primary options to do divine retribution stuff with

i dont think im gonna keep the wyrd scythes subsume slot either cus it doesnt rlly synergise that well

[barren birch]

with quick enough casting speed pyro lets you get it off on eximus and bosses

[icy urchin]

yeah

i think its just how my brain works in terms of things in games but pyro is like so insanely strong on nezha that it makes me not want to use it as much

[modest sedge]

nukes your energy in the process, but with the right setup, energy won't be an issue

[icy urchin]

yeah my null star build does somewhat similar to a probably lesser extent and i have weird archon shards to compensate

tbh i mainly just use the null star build for levelling weapons in sanctuary onslaught but it still feels good outside of that

[cedar haven]

Will arcane fury or velocity work with wukongs twin?

[rose wedge]

can i buff my jade's revive speed?

[modest sedge]

yeah, null star just adds another level of survivability that turns the game from stressful to laid back

[modest sedge]

yes, through the amalgam mod for shotguns. it has 45% faster revive speed

[rose wedge]

idk if vazarin's passive works for her 3rd hab

[rose wedge]

ohh, tyvm

[barren birch]

that's fair. I mainly use it as a chance to mess around with weapons though

[obtuse swan]

Question: is putting arcane barrier and grace on rhino a good idea. Is he already tanky as is and doesn’t need them or is it a the more the merrier situation

[icy urchin]

I was kinda struggling to find a good subsume if there is one for a primary weapon platform build on nezha cus I’m annoying and don’t rlly like running roar or eclipse, even tho ik roar would realistically be best cus how it interacts with dot statuses

[barren birch]

it's like "I wana use goofy vinq, so this allows me to do that with a safety net"

[barren birch]

xata :)

[icy urchin]

I’m kinda just using shock trooper for that purpose

[barren birch]

Aight I actually need an amesha build now tho

no clue where to look

[mighty flare]

nourish
could also run general stuff like pillage/omamori

[icy urchin]

i did think about doing nourish but idk how worth it that would be

[barren birch]

discord died for a bit

[rose wedge]

does the vazarin passive revive buff also work on her 3rd ability?

[hard sequoia]

Sigmas , im using velocity and aegis on my mesa , do i need to change aegis or its good with this

[barren birch]

https://overframe.gg/build/664032/amesha/immortal-amesha-heal-immunity-team-buff-0-forma-max-build-budget-friendly/

how is this for an amesha build?

Before I start grinding the stuff for it

[gleaming vapor]

if you want to

i usually run hotshot/velocity

but honestly, if youre just playing at base sp, its fine

[fierce lark]

i'd either go full health or full shield and swap the other two mods for aux power & hyperion thrusters

not having thrusters on an archwing build is hella sus

[barren birch]

Time for my obvious “what do you run” since I’ve been asking 5 ever and know all the builds on that site are doodoo. This was bait to get help

[fierce lark]

amesha's whole thing is being completely unkillable via abilities lol

[barren birch]

you fell for it

[barren birch]

yea I was told to use it for my guilty run. I've just not got a clue of what to put on it

[fierce lark]

oh im a lazy pos and haven't forma'd my archwing but this is what i would run if i did

[barren birch]

see I can do the forma I just needed an idea of what to even look for lol

[fierce lark]

as if amesha wasn't immortal already you also have access to warframe arcanes (ie aegis)

[rose wedge]

ok, now that discord lets me message with screenshots again, can this passive buff the revive speed of the gaze?

[fierce lark]

the two at the top left are completely flexible honestly, you could run any combination of what's left

like enhanced durability + kinetic diversion in case you soemhow run out of energy

[rose wedge]

what is better, this or itzal?

[woeful galleon]

Does anyone have a voruna prime build for nuking and survivability, sp

[charred gale]

itzal is just a bit faster

amesha has more of everything else

[rose wedge]

ill go for amesha then, i use my wisp's reservoir on my realjack's exits, so no need for more speed

ty

[charred gale]

np

[fierce lark]

amesha is pretty much bis for anything archwing related that isn't just flying from point A to point B

itzal is bis for eidolons because the black hole augment or w/e sucks up all the loot so you don't miss anything, sometimes the shards fall into the ground

[mighty flare]

build examples in here: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1492606866482794601

[novel bear]

Why even bother with health and shield mods with amesha’s 1?

[primal bane]

Hey does anyone know how oraxia’s web interacts with vaubans Bastille and Vortex?

Will the damage vulnerability still apply even if they’re lifted or rag dolled?

[fierce lark]

conpletionism

there’s nothing else to put there lol

[opal leaf]

Why need damage Vulnerability? I mean Vauban already have armor stripping that works when the enemy is ragdolled so it can be shredded by his 2

And Vauban's attacks are scale through levels

[frozen grail]

opinions on the synoid gammacor for the incarnon?
ive heard its kinda mid, ive got a riven for it but still was hearing its just a worse atomos

[sacred fjord]

I need helping tweaking my Kuva Grattler build to work with Lavos. And need to make a build for Lavos to use Kuva Grattler.

[opal leaf]

I would give my side to it

Gammacor cannot chain like Atomos did

So that's why it's worse than Atomos

[frozen grail]

ah, what about its actual incarnon mode with the explosion? that also go to the atomos in your opinion?

[rose wedge]

does the damage reduction while airborne have a cap?

[opal leaf]

Haven't get their Incarnon cause both of them are mid

[frozen grail]

ah tragic

[old marsh]

It is mid but it’s an Incarnon. Mostly used for its passives.

Throw in couple Forma and it will serve u fine. Don’t expect big dmg but it’s ok-ish.

[drowsy drum]

How nutty is the arcane universal fallout for qorvex?

[old marsh]

Yes

[fierce lark]

nutty in the sense that it works on him, ig

[drowsy drum]

Jojo pfp

[brittle sleet]

Nutty in the sense that it keeps his continuous 4 build going very easily

I guess Universal Fallout can only really be nutty in that sense though since it's just an energy economy arcane really

[fierce lark]

in my experience he still needs equi with it to sustain

[brittle sleet]

Is that on a Blind Rage build or neutral efficiency?

Or I guess since channeled gotta ask what the ratio is

[latent adder]

It depends on enemy density

Like in survival, 45 eff with fallout is fine

[oblique junco]

may i perchance ask for some valkyr build? mine will be finished building soon and just prefer builds personally from other players :3

[latent adder]

But anywhere else, its pain

[latent adder]

This is my day to day use one no subsume needed https://overframe.gg/build/240225/valkyr-prime/rip-and-tear-valkyr-general-use-hysteria-dps-grouping/

This one i use for cascade with roar on 3
https://overframe.gg/build/450575/valkyr-prime/eternal-hysteria-low-range-minimum-drain-hysteria-one-shot-levelcap/

[oblique junco]

oh hey! i actually follow a fair few of your builds with minor modifications for personal taste lmao, thank youu

[latent adder]

Use influence talons in general

Raw dmg is only needed for endurance to one spin thrax through body no priming

[oblique junco]

oooh yea i might be focusing a tad too much raw dmg in my stuff so ty!

[wraith sinew]

for wrathful advance on my excalibur, which ability do i subsume over

[mighty flare]

2 or 3

[oblique junco]

for archon shards what would you prioritize on valkyr? im just getting into fully kitting frames with em

[wraith sinew]

what would be pros and cons for those

[mighty flare]

look in here, better explanation: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1498026065744887869

[solar reef]

A: You lose blind, a handy crowd control tool
B: You lose javelin, and thus Furious Javelin is not an option

[mighty flare]

(furious javelin overrated)

[solar reef]

kinda

[mighty flare]

it is

[solar reef]

I mean its a phenomenal augment no matter how you look at it

[empty radish]

Suggestions?

[solar reef]

its just like, exalted blade does so much already

[opal leaf]

I go Magnet on the Bih

[empty radish]

Huh?

[mighty flare]

it doesnt interact with co
takes slots
inconsistent for anything not survivals

[solar reef]

i would just use deadhead instead

[mighty flare]

its also just overkill for most weapons, not just eb too

[solar reef]

modding magnetic might over maybe Merciless

[simple frost]

opinion on my larkspur build

[wary forge]

marked target 💀

[undone dust]

marked target is such a chud mod

[simple frost]

what else do i put on

[summer crest]

How mutch could a -crit phenmor Riven bê sold for?

[simple frost]

ofc people are just saying bad stuff and dont help

[dusky bane]

https://overframe.gg/build/441589/

[timid pivot]

Are these good?

[dusky bane]

good weapons, bad stats

[undone dust]

does knell prime have a good dispo? i dont remember

[dusky bane]

surprisingly, no

.85 for a gun I don't see ANYONE use but me

[hard sequoia]

I aint spending 450p for hotshot 💔💔 , i want it but gotta play with what i have for now

[undone dust]

that is moderately depressing

i love knell prime

[gleaming vapor]

avenger works too

that one you can get for free from BOTB

[wary forge]

use primed ven clip over 6060

[dusky bane]

I like you

[wary forge]

but yep good build

[undone dust]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-funny-smile-happy-gif-4163740030726237429

[dusky bane]

probably don't want to decrease amount of heat procs with it

[hard sequoia]

What about precision

[undone dust]

in a world of aoe knell prime reigns supreme

[gleaming vapor]

nope

[wary forge]

u 100% do

that mod is mandatory on every arch gun

[gleaming vapor]

mesa aims for center mass

[wary forge]

that build was just made before it came out

[hard sequoia]

Im thinking about it since i will build yareli soon

[gleaming vapor]

you’re almost never hitting headshots

[gleaming vapor]

we’ll get that for her

[hard sequoia]

I forgot about that

[gleaming vapor]

just not for mesa

[undone dust]

use pistoleer on mesa, trust

[celest turret]

How are people running citrine? The way she is or with a helminth?

[dusky bane]

I guess you could underframe it? does it account for proc dps?
in any case, not like archguns are relevant enough to care

[dusky bane]

iirc her 4 gets subbed off

[hard sequoia]

Im not sure if its in the botb event

[undone dust]

usually her 4 or her dr for cap

[dusky bane]

it's in arbis

[undone dust]

drop her gem for the hell of it

[wary forge]

always the 4

[hard sequoia]

What about the helminth?

[gleaming vapor]

nourish

[wary forge]

her dr in ccap is good now cause u can go persistence citrine if u want

[gleaming vapor]

don’t use pistoleer

mesa has infinite ammo as long as you have energy

[undone dust]

dr
persistence

[hard sequoia]

💔💔farming grandel is canon suffering

[dusky bane]

how does DR and persistence ....

[undone dust]

are you stupid or sexy

[dusky bane]

anything

[gleaming vapor]

too bad every other option is lowk dogshit

[dusky bane]

skill diff, it's not even hard

[gleaming vapor]

brightbonnet is like arguably second place

[dusky bane]

and you're GUARANTEED parts

[undone dust]

it's more of a minor inconvenience than anything

[gleaming vapor]

but also a pain in the ass to farm

[hard sequoia]

Welp i didnt even start farming for him

[gleaming vapor]

get to it then

[hard sequoia]

Just wanna complain tbh

[undone dust]

yknow what, hell yeah

[wary forge]

ur 1500 hp with 90% dr what

in cap thats only gonna be useless at like exo 90

[dusky bane]

you're the one who said her dr was good mate

[wary forge]

it is tho

[undone dust]

dude if you're gonna run persistence dr doesnt do anything

now 4 stacking citrines with her dr is hilarious though

[hard sequoia]

Will molt augmented be as good as avenger?

[gleaming vapor]

no

[solar reef]

DR doesn’t adjust itself to the 500 health damage limit by %

[gleaming vapor]

mesas got some shit ass strength scalings ngl

[wary forge]

almost like dr keeps ur hp high and then ur persistence anything that would do more then 500 hp

[gleaming vapor]

that’s why you usually only slot 1, maybe 2 strength mods

[wary forge]

its almost like its good together 4Shrug

[undone dust]

it's almost like persistence disables dr

[dusky bane]

in content where you need persistence, you won't feel the DR

[mighty flare]

if ya wanna know the recommended stuff for mesa, you can look at: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1500489300754825367

[wary forge]

u will tho

[solar reef]

arcane persistence is poopoo until they fix grendel’s interaction with it

[wary forge]

u guys are just burgers

[mighty flare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1050078382018265178/1454397083413909630/ezgif-395a166e2e34663d.gif

[fierce lark]

ye ok salad

[undone dust]

okay ham sandwich

i can understand the dr portion being nice for if persistence gets disabled but usually if it gets disabled so does your dr

[dusky bane]

her DR's great in like base SP
anything above that and I'd gate tbh
or persistence, in this case

[undone dust]

i feel like persistence citrine is cope anyway

[dusky bane]

she has some base hp regen, I can see it working kinda

[wary forge]

its not cope

its cope in the sense that like

if u want to playt citrine just do the afk companion build with a huras

[undone dust]

noo play with a moa!!!

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-orange-cat-orange-cats-cat-weird-gif-17010424884748616697

[dusky bane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/934062419733536768/1081255061688160266/678BF311-C300-4284-BF9E-7BFADA0DA42B.gif

[wary forge]

cause imo the only way to paly citrine is as a companion frame

[undone dust]

she's a solid weapons frame but i get that tbh

[solar reef]

dude that is so homozygous of you

youre such a homozygote

[undone dust]

okay mr fancy pants how about you cease your cellular respiration

[wary forge]

https://giphy.com/gifs/glorp-maragif-brick-gg5w0vsfHxrk4ctmEq

[undone dust]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-deployed-alien-cat-gif-10264569409756179931

[solar reef]

dont quack at me you great supine protoplasmic invertebrate jelly

[undone dust]

you stink like poop from a butt

[solar reef]

i bet you dont even have a vertebral column

[undone dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-kitten-crying-depressed-gif-23320832

[solar reef]

i bet you have no true organs

just a big flash of simple true tissues

[undone dust]

i bet you the last human

demanding to be moisturized constantly

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-blocked-message-1-ignored-message-gif-17092421089393899849

[undone dust]

https://tenor.com/view/bully-soccer-gif-9249976

[wet scroll]

i should use ability duration in prime gauss arcane shards right ?

[novel bear]

Caps out at 25

That’s nothing

Her orb generation is better, especially with health conversion

[dusky bane]

I guess that's fair

[novel bear]

Like nekros, with no status immunity

[mighty flare]

you can, yea

[dusky bane]

Orb generation would mean infinite survivability with persistence, as long as you don't get hit by a mag/heat/corr proc

[wet scroll]

so i should ?

[dusky bane]

And as long as you're spamming 1 and killing

[undone dust]

i love just throwing gravel at people

[mighty flare]

yes, Gauss also likes some qol like casting speed or parkour velocity

[solar reef]

best gauss shard setup is 3 parkour shards and 2 health dhards

get with the times

[mighty flare]

mach rush isnt very good for vertical movement lol

[wet scroll]

i don't know wether to go for ability strength or duration

[undone dust]

what about 5 tau toxin damage

[mighty flare]

duration

[wet scroll]

since i am mainly using em as a speedy nuke frame

[dusky bane]

Neither gonna help much

[wet scroll]

alr

[wet scroll]

so what do i go for ?

[undone dust]

5 parkour

[dusky bane]

Imo probably don't need any

[solar reef]

see i was joking but when i said that genuinely the rushtards went nuts on me

[mighty flare]

woah

[dusky bane]

Some parkour shards would be useful yea

[solar reef]

Like literally half the tiles in the game require actual parkour/vertical

[mighty flare]

the menthol guy?

[undone dust]

can you say the slur for rush people

[solar reef]

why would you not want a little help from yellows

[solar reef]

im sorry im just super heterozygous

it slips some times

[undone dust]

im going to slip you bro

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/peggle-peggle-deluxe-peggle-zen-ball-zen-ball-master-hu-gif-4213158819246665032

[mighty flare]

Corner-Kissers (from always colliding into walls)

[undone dust]

you sound like a filthy vazzer

[solar reef]

ground huggers

[mighty flare]

wallhuggers

[solar reef]

gauss has to have one of the worst playerbases though

like not even joking

[undone dust]

any xatas blasting gaussers in chat

[solar reef]

i think the only player base with worse “die hards” is like maybe follie’s

[undone dust]

papa loves follie because papa loves himself a big woman but i hate playing her

[solar reef]

because most follie “die hards” aren’t even die hards, shes just new/hype

you can NOT criticize her kit it the other chats at the wrong time of the day

[undone dust]

her only interesting thing is her shadowgraph and even that is kind of boring

[mighty flare]

follie & her new gamemode were a bit undercooked

well her gamemode was pretty shit tbf

[undone dust]

snoozefest

they also merked enkhaus and im still upset about that

[main siren]

Can this build theoretically work? (weapon - Braton Incarnon)
Cant test it enemies in simulacrum dies too fast

[solar reef]

someone here last night genuinely argued with me for like 20 minutes that Enkaus was at 50% for its gimmick because “i feel it!”
I showed them the wiki, the DE post, and everything else and they were like “these are unreliable”

[undone dust]

isnt it 50 for follie? or what is her bonus with it

[solar reef]

it pre-inks

[undone dust]

ugh im so inky

[solar reef]

basically just makes it where you dont need to alt fire

[undone dust]

lovely

any nova enkaus enjoyers!!

[undone dust]

worse glaxion

[solar reef]

also

[undone dust]

does it mention how mprime can also taxi it?