builds-discussion

[old marsh]

Funnily enough, Seva’s Gloom is probably used by other frames more than himself like Grendel’s nourish

[opal leaf]

Adaptation huh...

[latent adder]

if u wanted to persistence u could drop adaptation for vitality

[crimson cedar]

2k hp + 1100 armor + adaptation is really decent, with a perma life steal, 0 problems in SP ( no endurance runs ofc )

[old marsh]

Throw in an armor shard too for extra DR

Not like the blues r used anyways

[opal leaf]

Copy that sir, now I'm waiting for Sombra's reference build and might mix the two

Wait how much range does he need?

[latent adder]

145 -175

[opal leaf]

How big is that?

[latent adder]

it makes it so gloom isnt too big

if its too big you slow enemies in another room from reaching u and drain energy unnecessarily

its big enough for the nuke too

[opal leaf]

Ahhh good point, which would slow down the progress

Thanks Ninjase for that

[topaz verge]

Should I use voruna's helminth on valkyr prime with arcane battery?

Or should I keep her first ability and go with super high range

[finite lintel]

I need help with the sayrn sobek combo i dont have a lot of good mods but i can get good mods

Here is the builds just tell me what to change and i dont have green shards

[dusky bane]

put an aura into saryn

that's like
a must

[latent adder]

u can sub over 3

[finite lintel]

Yeah i will do that

Someone said put roar over her 4

[dusky bane]

for acid shells, yea

you also want more useful mods than rush

you're aiming for this

Pure Weapon Platform: https://overframe.gg/build/226696/

Sobek Acid Shells: https://overframe.gg/build/731864/**

[topaz verge]

But doesn't that help with damage?

[dusky bane]

she doesn't REALLY need paralysis tbh

[latent adder]

yeah but its also unnecessary AND needs to recast on every new enemy

[finite lintel]

Ok

[finite lintel]

Is there any other ones with a little less expensive mods

[dusky bane]

use non-primed versions

[topaz verge]

Yeah that sucks

[finite lintel]

And someone im the comments said that it doesnt even kill level 100 thrax

[dusky bane]

overframe comments are usually by people who can't think and breathe at the same time

ignore them completely

[topaz verge]

Should I put arcane reaper on her?

[finite lintel]

Oh ok

[brittle iron]

do i need adaptation when im also using arcane persistence

[opal leaf]

No

[dusky bane]

on valk? unnecessary imo

[dusky bane]

they literally don't work together so no

[brittle iron]

sweet

[opal leaf]

Adaptation is useless when you have Persistence

[topaz verge]

Should I put molt efficiency or augmented on her?

[opal leaf]

Damage Reduction DOESN'T WORK with Persistence

[crimson cedar]

it works but it's useless, bc the 500hp gate is after all reductions

[brittle iron]

i use a health tank saryn build

[opal leaf]

I haven't heard of that build, until you said it

[dusky bane]

cause it's not a good build

inb4 triumbra persistence

[brittle iron]

it is

it works

[opal leaf]

You are telling a Saryn user... One who knows Saryn too well... Who uses it to level cap... That it's good when they just said it's not

:/

[dusky bane]

not a high bar

I don't do level cap, it's boring

but it's also not hard

[opal leaf]

That just testifies you can do it easily hahaha

[dusky bane]

anyone can

it's not hard

[opal leaf]

They just be lazy tho hahaha

I mean I can with a few frames

Vauban, Xaku, Ash Melee and Nokko

[brittle sleet]

As someone who DOES use health tank Saryn

You sure will get better results with her other playstyles

It's pretty funny having Gloom + Persistence be pretty close to immortality on her though

Given her constant DPS

But even without subsuming Molt is a stupid amazing shield gating tool and you spend 2 mods no arcanes no shards to set that up

[topaz verge]

Does the bonus crit damage from the purple shard only works if I have over 500 energy while playing or just over 500 in thr build itself

Like I have 1,000 energy with arcane battery, would the bonus still work if I got to 400 energy?

[brittle sleet]

Purple shard crit damage works off of your max energy not current energy

Arcane Battery bonuses do affect your energy max

[topaz verge]

Oh nice so I'll always have the bonus

Should I put roar or voruna's helminth instead of valkyr's 3?

[brittle sleet]

Primary Overcharge is the arcane that cares about your current energy

[icy urchin]

if i have like a kitgun riven can i equip it on both a secondary and primary version of the kitgun at the same time

[analog dome]

I need a jade build

[icy urchin]

i dont have a full build but she is capable of running both the full mecha set and summoners wrath if u are into giga buffing a kubrow

[old marsh]

roar

[warm obsidian]

So I have Chromatic Blade on Electric
How do i mod exalted blade then?

[old marsh]

Blood Rush is preferred if u have the crit dmg shards on your excal. otherwise organ shatter

DM was my old build. i still keep it jic

[warm obsidian]

Triple Umbra mods the way to go for Excal?

[old marsh]

u need to make sure that Electric is your last element. this applies to all weapons that have an additional element like adversary weapons

[old marsh]

not really but most dont want to lose that umbra socket so including myself we keep it. its not that big of a deal tbh

But to ease your concerns, I took him to ETA and his survivability & dmg wasn’t an issue.

[warm obsidian]

Planning to subsume 2 with Wrathful Advance

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

Naughty

[naive hinge]

whats the best nikanas ?

[versed harbor]

nikana prime and syam rly

[static sphinx]

Is ceti lacera or basmu decent?

[naive hinge]

so what to make ? to try new weapons and exp , i have syam built

[versed harbor]

both of these are pretty much mastery fodder so up to you

[old marsh]

Basmu is

[dusky bane]

nikana's alright

[versed harbor]

riven bait

[static sphinx]

Does it mean that ceti lacera is relatively bad?

[old marsh]

ignore. i read it wrong

[dusky bane]

nah, it's solid

that and dorrclave are the only blade and whips worth using

[static sphinx]

Alright, thanks.

[formal tusk]

Anyone got a sevagoth build i could abuse in high sp?

[opal leaf]

https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1429852785251455016

[formal tusk]

[opal leaf]

It's literally just Nuke Seva

My Sevagoth is focused on CC and gun platform for a bit

[naive hinge]

okina build ?

[dusky bane]

influence slop

[naive hinge]

explain it to me 🙂 i discovered it this week

[opal leaf]

Any weapons that needed light attacks like Okina, Hate, Dual Ichor, likes Influence, melee Influencr

Or Crabsweat

[naive hinge]

ah bruh i like the weapon but still havent use a potato and its damaging good

guess its time

[naive hinge]

why exactly ?

[opal leaf]

Cause that's what they benefit more than anything

Like u can use others but influence just makes them from High tier weapons to VERY HIGH TIER weapons

[naive hinge]

can i use this for weeping woonds ? + is infulence rank 1 normal ?

[opal leaf]

Cubra Gave you the build

[naive hinge]

i asked for this cuz i dont have weeping which he sent

[dusky bane]

get weeping

must have mod, essential for any light attack build

[opal leaf]

Then for now yes.
But get weeping wounds

Make it a placeholder NOT an "everyday" mod

[naive hinge]

what about infulence r1 ?

even if i use kullervo infulnce shi t will be better ?

[old marsh]

yes. coz crit chance

[opal leaf]

Yes
. It's a must have buuld for some melees

WA and/or Roar

[naive hinge]

i mean wont another arcan be better ?

[opal leaf]

Nope

Trust us

When we say Influence is the best arcane for melees (light attacks)

It is

Aight I gtg now

[dusky bane]

for 95% of melee, no

[naive hinge]

but i want to see high red crits ):

[dusky bane]

it's better to nuke the entire map with yellow crits than hit 1 guy with a mediocre red

[naive hinge]

nuh

[dusky bane]

go to settings and under UI change all crit colors to red 🔥

[naive hinge]

🗿 , let me change my words , i want to see high numbers

[dusky bane]

influence will have high numbers in a 30 meter radius

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

[naive hinge]

ya

[solar reef]

heard

[violet silo]

what weapon was this

[naive hinge]

is there something important ?

[solar reef]

hate on voruna

[naive hinge]

-3 meant over 2 billion here right ?

[solar reef]

yesn't

[naive hinge]

ammm the photo malz

[naive hinge]

why ?

[worldly dirge]

what archon shards should i use for gauss as a weapon platform?

[naive hinge]

isnt it 1x0011

[solar reef]

negative number doesnt always mean visual damage cap

it can also be crit overflow

typicaly if you hit the visual damage cap (2.1... B) it will just show as -2.1b

[timber sparrow]

boar ig

[naive hinge]

whats crit flow ?

[solar reef]

but yes i tend to do well over 2.1b on that set up lol

[timber sparrow]

wait how tf do you charge melee incarnons?

[violet silo]

isn't this around 4.2b here tho

[worldly dirge]

combo counter

[solar reef]

critical chance is high enough that is breaks visual integers

[violet silo]

boar

the goat

[solar reef]

give or take, i've hit some really funny numbers with this set up on calculators

i have photos of me hitting two 2.1 b's in one swing with it on a single target

[violet silo]

6x combo unless an evo says otherwise

[naive hinge]

how much high?:)

[solar reef]

i dont know

critical overflow doesnt actually indicate high damage

it just means your crit chance/cd is stupidly high

[formal tusk]

It lowkey doesn't redirect me to a specific message bru

[solar reef]

like i sat comfortably on some 800-900% cc

[latent adder]

255x crit multiplier

[naive hinge]

should i get or can i skip ?

[solar reef]

if you want to skip you can by why would you

its a fun weapon and its really good

[naive hinge]

how do u get 900 ?? 💀

[silk sphinx]

Yareli’s passive has a hand in it I’m guessing?

[solar reef]

WA + CC riven + Blood Rush + Sac/Galv on a weapon with a cc base boosting incarnon evo

[silk sphinx]

Really?

[naive hinge]

whats wa

[solar reef]

this was also before they shadow patched voruna's 1's cc boost so it wasn't pulling any weight from that

wrathful advance

[silk sphinx]

Not taking advantage of the 200% cc her passive gives to secondary weapons?

Huh.

[solar reef]

in what world does secondary weapon come into play here

[naive hinge]

why not + kullervo ?

[silk sphinx]

Idk, I just showed up and saw yall talking about dmg cap and knew Yareli could hit it with the use of her passive, which affects secondary weapons.

[versed harbor]

💀

[solar reef]

because i dont enjoy him and voruna is a significantly better melee platformer

[opal leaf]

Oh dang it.

I'm so so sorry

[formal tusk]

Mind js sending a screenshot?

[opal leaf]

Uhhh I can send you a link

[opal leaf]

https://overframe.gg/build/717065/sevagoth-prime/shadow-realm-sevagoth-pure-nuke-oneshot-levelcap-variant/

Here, coming from Ninjase hinself

[formal tusk]

Who even is ninjase

[opal leaf]

The best Builder in the game

We trusted his knowledge when it comes to building bc it's on point

[dusky bane]

one of a few trusted people on overframe

[opal leaf]

Like he helped me with MY CC Sevagoth earlier, alongside with Sombra (one of the best Builder too and the one who made the Seva Guide)

[old marsh]

Boar, angstrum, gorgon, anky, gammacor in that order

[formal tusk]

Aight neat

How does arcane concentration work?

Like u cast a skill, then another for 60% duration on the second skill?

[opal leaf]

Yes

Press one skill and in the next... How many durstion it is, gets plus 60% ability duration

[formal tusk]

So skill spammer behaviour

[opal leaf]

Yes sir

My builds are not that spammy, I'm more into gun platforming and stuff

And crowd controk

[violet silo]

get
its like torid if it was awesome

[solar reef]

huzzah! finally got that deal across on that ichor riven

the vortex build is so up

the negative is pretty unsavory but i can eat it through the evo's

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-sad-emoji-emoji-stare-disgust-gif-405076546600269050

malz whats the negative

[crimson cedar]

imagine -98% status duration

[wary forge]

-sd Lavos g roll

[formal tusk]

My GOD i js saw that I NEED 3 BUILDS

[wary forge]

-dmg chroma groll
-cc harrow groll
-ms octavia groll
-fr wisp groll
-cd crepuscular groll
-rls volt groll
-sd lavos groll
-range kullervo groll
-bane rhino groll
-sc koumei groll

[solar reef]

combo duration (-7.4)

[opal leaf]

Cause Sevagoth is like having 2 Warframes and an exalted weapon

Himself, his shadow and his claws hahaha

[quiet laurel]

cope

[solar reef]

i’m running three dexterity arcanes anyways

so i dont mind

[crimson cedar]

Ah yeah not a big deal with dual dex on archgun (free +15s combo)

[wary forge]

Combo duration isn’t a bad neg

[formal tusk]

Idm the forma abuse, i need to understand HOW TO BUILD EM

[quiet laurel]

"my frames counter the negatives so its a good roll"

[wary forge]

Those who know

[quiet laurel]

unplayable

[wary forge]

Just use narumon and 4x dexterity

[quiet laurel]

even then unplayable

[solar reef]

not even

[wary forge]

Nah

[opal leaf]

Ah well.... That is outside of my league now

I play Seva as a CC frame and only use shadow as a Panic Button, only go shield gate on him and Influence on his claws

[quiet laurel]

would have to use +combo duration mods

[wary forge]

I got neg cd on my okina riv

[formal tusk]

Looks like ill need to buy the growing power cause i got no nightfall apothics

[wary forge]

And it’s not bad I’ve never noticed once

I mean it’s only -4 seconds

[solar reef]

I’m running three dexiterities + the evo (the alternative is 0.7m of range)
so i’m still sitting at like 35 seconds of combo

[wary forge]

Yeah that’s more then enough

[quiet laurel]

combo over range ⏰

[crimson cedar]

too much range is not interesting due to Follow Through stat

[wary forge]

I don’t think I can post this gif here

[opal leaf]

Gl

And some people are Seva users, ask them

Malz, Angry Sheiji, Zach

They can help after... What their topic is hahahah

[wary forge]

But I have an amazing gif response

[quiet laurel]

I got away with some crazy ones before

[wary forge]

Same lowkey

[formal tusk]

I js need all 3 base builds without spending much plat, im still new at the game and i need every plat i have lmao

[opal leaf]

How new are we talking about

[formal tusk]

Today be 70th day

[wary forge]

What’s the situation

[solar reef]

but yeah I think I can live with the negative

(this is on neutral combo exclusively)

[opal leaf]

Good luck... He is very high investment and energy hungry

[formal tusk]

Investment as in plat?

[quiet laurel]

lowkey I really wanna use vortex ichor but influence is still better so no reason to 😔

[opal leaf]

Building

[opal leaf]

Mods and forma

[solar reef]

i know but its just so fun

[formal tusk]

I do have majority of required mods

Come to think of it, is there a way to have hot shot on sevagoth?

[opal leaf]

I can tell cause you are asking how to build Sevagoth

Its just forma and such are his problem when building.

Like I have a feeling I'll be spending 3 forma on this bish

[solar reef]

why would you need hotshot on sevagoth

[opal leaf]

No, there arent

[solar reef]

im sorry but that just soynds so stupid

[solar reef]

also, yes there is

[formal tusk]

I have 15 spare formas, i dont rly care abt em

[solar reef]

you can subsume for it

its just stupid and pointless

[mighty flare]

yes there is,
but, just use shadow haze

[opal leaf]

If subsume them obv sure

[opal leaf]

Damn... Well good luck

[formal tusk]

From what i saw, manifold bond on diriga triggering heat is doable?

[solar reef]

like sevagoth has two major playstyles and neither of them use guns

[opal leaf]

Thing is... Why hot shot on Seva?

[formal tusk]

Extra crit on weapon?

[opal leaf]

Like Malz said, it's sounds ofd

[opal leaf]

You... Don't need those actually...

Shadow Haze is mostly enough

[brittle iron]

is 199% strength enough for saryn

[solar reef]

like you have 100%ehp damage nukes

[formal tusk]

I mean im using primary acuity on burston but i lwk wanna get rid of it for ms and going from t5 crits to t2-3 is lowkey sad

[solar reef]

you just arent getting it here

[opal leaf]

Like I get what you're going... But... There is really like... No point, you can slot better arcanes than hot shot for seva

[solar reef]

You dont use your guns to kill with sevagoth

[formal tusk]

Hmmmm

[opal leaf]

Heh jokes on you, I already planned on doing that hahahah

CC Seva fr

[solar reef]

like you have the strongest nuke in the game

why even touch your guns aside from utility

[opal leaf]

Ya know what's worse?

I'm using Acceltra on him hehe

https://tenor.com/view/ferass18-gif-7869831930024597864

[solar reef]

even if you arent using his nuke set up you’re probably using an exalted shadow build

where you still want other arcanes

[opal leaf]

I might use Shadow as a Panic Button only

Imma use Seva as a Semi Caster + CC

Gloom focus

And gun platform

Seems quiet now so I guess it's not a popular idea

[solar reef]

why even sevagoth atp

[opal leaf]

Because.. I like his style

[solar reef]

gloom is a subsume to rip

[opal leaf]

I want to see Sevagoth differently as everyone

I can understand the nuke and exalted shadow

.but I want to go different path

[solar reef]

if it makes you happy I guess😭

[opal leaf]

I already had a build in mind, Ninjase, Sombra and Ruby helped me hahaha

[opal leaf]

I know it hurts for you to see a frame outside it's intended purpose hahaha

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-24957682

[solar reef]

its not that its just like

this set up just seems like a waste of effort

like you’re just building around gloom

which you could throw on any other weapons platformer

Most of my favorite set ups aren’t used how the frame is intended to be used, to be clear

[opal leaf]

gotcha

[solar reef]

Sand kavat Volt my beloved

[opal leaf]

Oh I absolutely understand hahaha

But it's just trying smth new on a frame that is outside (not really) it's comfy zone

[opal leaf]

I may have to do that soon hahaha

Oh, Cubra is here

What do you think Cubra

Im making a CC gun platform Seva hahaha

[hexed lodge]

tbf, seva is already a crazy weapons platform, gloom is there for survivability

[opal leaf]

I have the build already in mind (I've had help)

[hexed lodge]

oh hi CRWD lol

[opal leaf]

Yes sir

Just sharing my plans on Seva

I wanted to see how they react bc I realized it's not really a popular build hahaha

[dusky bane]

cursed

[hexed lodge]

it's always going to happen whenever you suggest using anything outside of his 2+1
(bonus points, say you won't use Roar lmao)

[opal leaf]

Hahaha, just like how I wanted

[opal leaf]

I will take note of that

I might not share my build or my ideas with Seva bc it might trigger other players hahaha

[opal leaf]

Oh ya I'm going Subsumeless Seva

I'm using his whole kit hahaha

[solar reef]

not even, hes got another playstyle that his entire kit was based around

[hexed lodge]

you can still share the build in the seva thread, won't judge there

[opal leaf]

True

[solar reef]

its just never used

[hexed lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/locked-in-yup-gif-8324959600961292506

[opal leaf]

We out here breaking the Meta of Nuking hahahaha

[noble palm]

Is it ok to use Secondary Fortifier on Mesa's Regulators? This will be in addition to the Arcane Circumvent I've got on her.

[opal leaf]

Yes

Fortifier and the other arcane for crit (Cascadia Flare?) are the ones usually recommended for her

[hexed lodge]

you mean the "keep enemies in your LOS under gloom's 95% slow while nuking with 2+1 +viral and/or use your weapons with a crazy dmg vuln + flat crit chance bonus?"
or you referring to just 2+1 roar nuke?

[formal tusk]

@solar reef do drop me all 3 nuke builds for sevagoth

[hexed lodge]

i've a got whole menu for that...

[noble palm]

Gotcha thanks! Been having survivability issues with her on SP

[opal leaf]

Yo slowdown, hahaha

[opal leaf]

Wait.... How?

[formal tusk]

I mean for seva, his shadow and his claws

[opal leaf]

I knoe hahaha

We go one by one sometimes, but Ruby got you so you're lucky tday

[hexed lodge]

wait, you actually serious? thought that was sarcasm

[formal tusk]

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IM DOING

[solar reef]

i was just referring to his exalted shadow

[hexed lodge]

i mean, that's a playstyle... not a good one but it works, shadow is best used as a hybrid, not separately

[solar reef]

oh i agree but it is his like

you know, signature

[opal leaf]

I told you to slowdown hahaha

[solar reef]

its just never used because its clunky and awkward and also roar nuke exists

[opal leaf]

Boom boom Seva?

Wait what's this one...

[formal tusk]

I mean i js kinda need a reference setup so i can adjust as per personal shenanigans

[hexed lodge]

it is his signature, sadly even DE doesn't understand that shadow only has 1 1/2 abilities, so that's why i say its best used as a hybrid with both forms supporting each other

[opal leaf]

Then that's where Overframe comes in

Reference builds? Overframe is your friend

[hexed lodge]

nuke sevagoth or helminthless sevagoth?

[opal leaf]

He wants a damage base Seva that can conquer the High SP

His words

[solar reef]

very helpful

super desciptive

[opal leaf]

Trust me that's what he asked us

[hexed lodge]

both nuke and helminthless do great on sp, just very different playstyles

[violet silo]

sail the seven SPeas

[solar reef]

tldr use evade harrow + dual Tox instead

[violet silo]

scourging it rn

[solar reef]

this guy gets it

[opal leaf]

That's his words

[quiet laurel]

holy snail in builds discussion channel what the

[opal leaf]

Don't ask more, I didn't understand

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/goochi-goochi-goo-missile-seeker-aim-9-sidewinder-gif-17632579140991327599

[violet silo]

dualism

[solar reef]

the best f2p game versus the worst f2p game

such is the duality of man

[dense seal]

calling wt free to play is criminal

[opal leaf]

Huh?

[solar reef]

free to lose

[dense seal]

yup

[solar reef]

I’m a premtard so I can’t talk much

[hexed lodge]

egh fk it... @formal tusk
Helminthless - https://overframe.gg/build/874263/
Shadowless Nuke - https://overframe.gg/build/900311/
Shadow Nuker - https://overframe.gg/build/874330/

[opal leaf]

I'm starting to think... That I don't understand this topic

I need to be indulge in games more

[dense seal]

same twin

[solar reef]

won’t catch me dead running the stock grind

[dense seal]

i just hit 3k hours like a few days ago kek

[ruby crypt]

how can i improve on this build (besides converting flow and continuity to their prime counterparts)

[hexed lodge]

just warframe-rot, don't bother

[opal leaf]

Yeah I knew it, I'm too young to be old

[quiet laurel]

premtard fine as long as you actually contribute to the match

[opal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-ohh-gif-13319726218162549947

[solar reef]

got my grubby hands on the Rafale and its 8 micas and haven’t gone back to anything other than customs since

[quiet laurel]

but when you leave after 1 death and have like 1 assist consistently just uninstall pls

[solar reef]

i usually just hang out in duel servers

[dense seal]

top tier air is just not it in its current state, implement the nuclearthunder thing into it and it'll be goated

they straight up stole that from nuclear option

which i thought was hilarious

[quiet laurel]

air rb lowkey ass across the board though

[formal tusk]

I think i should be ready to do a nightfall apothic hunt w sum randoms. Mod drop chance booster and sp

[solar reef]

especially with how they’ve treated the AIM-120 + inability to avoid them through notch+chaff

[quiet laurel]

at least in ground I can suffer while having multiple attempts to evade CAS

[solar reef]

forced to multipath atp

[dense seal]

trying to multipath fakour90 and its legit just a glidebomb with internal guidance basically

even if it misses you die

[solar reef]

aim 120 in the pobit is ruining any map without valleys

tldr; the best battle ratings are between 8.0 and 11.0

[quiet laurel]

is air rb still just yeeting your missiles at 40km

[solar reef]

yeah its getting worse and worse, I genuinely miss MICA meta

basically the AIM-120D is just dominating

[formal tusk]

All 3 for sevagoth 🥀, man i meant 3 builds total. 1 seva, 1 shadow, 1 claw

[solar reef]

They have effectively like 40km range with stupidly high energy retention, and super effective turn aspect

They also just ignore chaff+notch

[quiet laurel]

luckily I never really got into air rb much

more of a ground player

[solar reef]

i exclusively play air

[opal leaf]

Hold on

Can I cut you off for a bit?

The Hp% damage came from where

His 1 or his augment

[quiet laurel]

2 explosion when reap is on the enemy

[hexed lodge]

you can click the links, they have (multiple) Shadow/Claw builds in there to sit your taste/preference

[hexed lodge]

2 marks them, 1 detonates the mark
Code-wise, the source of the dmg comes from 1 (tested it)

[opal leaf]

So where is the hp% damage coming from?

[quiet laurel]

the explosion...

[opal leaf]

So in the Augment? Or just explosion from his 2

[quiet laurel]

its part of the base kit

[mighty flare]

equilibrium better energy than energize + streamline
dante wants strength on everything, so umbral int or blind rage
other stuff depends on how you're using noctua

[opal leaf]

So it's his 2

[solar reef]

• his 1

[quiet laurel]

yes, but the 2 needs to come in contact with reap

[opal leaf]

So it's the combination of both.... Huh

[hexed lodge]

#builds-discussion message

[opal leaf]

So the augment, what does the 2 augment do is it can mark multiple enemies at once

[quiet laurel]

it just spreads passively

[opal leaf]

Ohhhhh

I mustve passed through ut

[hexed lodge]

spreads the mark on death of the enemies

[opal leaf]

Ooo OK hold on

Let me try cook here
. Remember the build I dokt you? Sombra's build has Cata in it right?

What about I replace that with the augment of his 2?

[solar reef]

i mean thats just a part of his gate survivability

[hexed lodge]

2nd augment is not effective without roar/viral or playing kuva fortress... i wouldn't bother

[ruby crypt]

i have barely any good secondary mods so i mainly use it to proc archon stretch

[opal leaf]

Hmmm so I guess I'll just slot in Augur secrets I guess

[solar reef]

youn can cope with just an augur/brief if you use huras/shade

[hexed lodge]

they are intending a helminthless build, huras won't work

[solar reef]

freakazoid

[mighty flare]

if you're just using noctua for supporting then, you'd might like arcane impetus with encumber on noctua with a priming build of viral + rad/mag

[opal leaf]

As I said I'm using a Subsumeless Seva

No roar, whole kit

Gun platforming CC Sevagoth

[solar reef]

cant use those companions then

imo cata shields is a must

[opal leaf]

Yeah I'm using Diriga or Panzer for it

[mighty flare]

also dante likes casting speed, if you dont have shards/madurai, i'd use natural talent

[solar reef]

throw augur in a secondary and call it a day

[hexed lodge]

gotta agree with this if you ain't using any other surv method

[opal leaf]

Yeah I might do that in my ztoxo gagaga

[ruby crypt]

does rad/mag proc archon stretch?

[solar reef]

no

it has to be electricity

[opal leaf]

What I thought first is that
. Can Gloom regenerate shields?

But they say it can't so I got... Disappointed hahahahaha

[solar reef]

gloom is pretty ass dookie outside of persistence set ups but dont tell anybody I said that

[opal leaf]

Well not really, but I got sad when it csnt

[solar reef]

slow is so lame and mid

[mighty flare]

incorrect, mag does

[hexed lodge]

it "time-stops" the enemies, but that's about, from there you decide what to use as surv

[opal leaf]

I'm screenshotting this hahaha

[solar reef]

does the little electric thing they do as a gimmick proc it?

[hexed lodge]

my sweet summer child hasn't seen a 95% slow...

[mighty flare]

mag does, but you'd just keep electricity itself

[solar reef]

i have seen it and that doesnt change my answer

[opal leaf]

That's true

CC won't be good if you have ass survivability

[mighty flare]

yes

[solar reef]

thats kinda funny/neat

i’d looked into that before but I couldnt find anything about it on wiki

i probably just missed it

[opal leaf]

Alright I'm building Seva rn, gotta work on a build tmr

Cya

[fast elbow]

You may hate this but it infact works really well

I don't see the issue with augment mods

Also a vulpaphyla with hunter recovery for good measure on healing

[old marsh]

definition of starving sockets

https://tenor.com/view/ill-allow-it-ken-jeong-korean-mexican-hat-gif-5187167

[fast elbow]

I don't need omni forma

Personally because I don't change builds often

[old marsh]

Not for that. Only 2 sockets left for normal mods

[solar reef]

persistence really did wonders for lavos

[fast elbow]

That's the good thing about lavos, you don't need much stats for him to be good

[fast elbow]

I love persistence with primary bulwark

Gives a lot more fun flexibility

[solar reef]

why does status duration have a separate modifier than regular duration if they use the same statline

[fast elbow]

No clue

[solar reef]

like thats not a thing on any other frame that deals status

[fast elbow]

Anyways I love primary bulwark it's funny

[vale abyss]

gyre good or bad?

[old marsh]

Only Pablo can answer

[fast elbow]

Pretty good

Maybe try getting your aegis up

[solar reef]

why lightning dash

does the electric do something with her kit

[old marsh]

Coz gyre

[solar reef]

i dont gyre dont crucify me

[old marsh]

Nah. Just for fun

[old marsh]

Use circumvent instead of aegis

[vale abyss]

would put circusomething but dont have it

@old marsh dont have it :/

[fast elbow]

Circumvent

[old marsh]

No worries but do so when possible.

[vale abyss]

thanks guys

[old marsh]

Just 1 question. What is your plan for getting energy at the start of mission?

[fast elbow]

Preparation

[vale abyss]

ohh yea, forgot about this one, probably will change that for the preparation

[old marsh]

Or u can use a yellow shard. Both r good options. Just be mindful that Gyre doesn’t even need Flow. Coz once u pop your 3 & 4, u can maintain it indefinitely as long as there r enemies to kill

Hence the emphasis on starting energy instead of max energy

[storm rain]

Is putting 2 blue archon shards on Garuda for Health regen a good idea?

[violet silo]

doesnt matter
aegis' "real" effect isnt that good

[fast elbow]

It's a 5% vs 30% recharge rate

Pretty good for hildryn

[queen parcel]

is a health tank atlas good? i've been playing with it for a while and i feel like i'm doing better then with a sheild

[old marsh]

nope. molt reconstruct

[fast elbow]

Most atlas gameplay is spamming your 1 which already makes you invincible during it

[queen parcel]

shrug

[violet silo]

hildryn isnt gyre

but yeah like I said aegis isnt really used for the recharge usually

[wary forge]

Yes

Realisticly you don’t need that much survivability bc ur 1 makes u immune plus u have so much base armor

[near crater]

Hey what are some "do"s and "don't"s when modding glaives?

[solar reef]

the rate is largely irrelevant; as long as you’re getting any shield for the gate its doing its job

[wary forge]

Condition overload doesn’t work same with attack speed and range

[solar reef]

for the most part its the same as any other heavy spam weapon, except PPP over CO and you have to slot Volatile Quick Return

[near crater]

have to?

[solar reef]

It is greatly suggested

the only exception to this is Wolf Sledge

because you literally cant use that mod on it

which glaive in particular are you building

[near crater]

Pathocyst

Mostly as Mastery fodder but if this turns out nicely, I might get the coda

I thought I could build this one to bounce between enemies in crowds

[solar reef]

Coda Pathocyst is phenomenal

regular pathocyst not so much

i wouldnt invest forma into it/build it out

[near crater]

Yeah that's why mastery fodder

[solar reef]

but yeah it tends to follow the same Influence detonation setup as Falcor/Xoris

[near crater]

IF I see this has potential, I might get the coda (and actually spend time getting heart cells)

[solar reef]

https://overframe.gg/build/816664/coda-pathocyst/coda-pathocyst-x5-heavy-spam-influence-nuke/

[old marsh]

Or bouncy setup like Kestrel P

[near crater]

Damn

[solar reef]

you wont see the potential if its not fully built for detonation

thats the problem with glaives

[near crater]

So rebound + power throw is not the way to go?

[near crater]

Or at least a step in the direction

[solar reef]

iirc Kestrel is the only glaive atp that prefers bounce

[near crater]

Damn

[solar reef]

everything else wants detonation

[near crater]

Galv Elementalist? Reflex?

Neither, one, or both?

[solar reef]

look at this

you wont be able to appropriately copy it since you arent using the coda variant, thus lacking progen

[near crater]

I was hoping to get a framework

In general for glaives

[solar reef]

https://overframe.gg/build/618917/xoris/xoris-falcor-x5-heavy-spam-influence/

for everything except glaive p/kestrel this is what you’ll be using

they all just utilize influence detonations

and wolf sledge but thats just because it cant use Volatile/Glaive mods

it still uses Influ

Galvanized Reflex is an absolute must for any heavy spam weapon

If you want a frame to min-max glaives on, the best choice to play with would be Mirage

Eclipse interacts uniquely with glaive explosions and contagion

[fresh hollow]

guys, isnt hate heavy attack suposed to force proc slash? mine isnt

[near crater]

I see

[solar reef]

scythe heavy attacks have a forced slash proc

[fresh hollow]

even tho it doesnt show the slash image besides the damage?

[solar reef]

take off all your mods, run into a steel path mission, and heavy attack with no buffs.
look at the enemy’s health bar/check for status effects

you should see a slash proc

[fresh hollow]

oh, ok

[solar reef]

sorry for the choppy image as this I’ve de-scaled it for the funny

should see a slash proc

[formal tusk]

How is this for now?

[fresh hollow]

i tested in simulacrum and indeed it proc slash on every heavy, so for me to get gas and slash i need to get over 100% status chance or the slash proc will always be there?

[solar reef]

the slash will always be there

its also unaffected by modded IPS

[solar reef]

swap hammer shot for Gilded Truth or Vile Acceleration

[formal tusk]

The rest is fine?

[solar reef]

pretty standard yeah

[fresh hollow]

thanks a bunch, also the incarnoon heat status only works with its normal attacks right?

[formal tusk]

Standard non ms build

[solar reef]

there is no innate heat on the heavies

[formal tusk]

Aight time to slap ms build on config B

[solar reef]

it would be the exact same just with galv multi over acuity

For future reference, Acuity results in much higher final DPS, multishot is just more convenient and easier to use.

Both are absolutely viable though

[fresh hollow]

why in the simulacrum the slash image always show but in the missions it often only show the gas on the attack? is it just a visual thing?

[solar reef]

just a visual deal

[topaz verge]

Thoughts? I want to put argur message in the empty space

[violet silo]

uh
too much status

one status mod

[topaz verge]

I ran out of damage mods lmao so I had to put two status and the slash one with them

Which one should I remove?

[violet silo]

and as for the valkyr why so much augur

use equilibrium, you need energy

[violet silo]

everything except for fever

[topaz verge]

Also I'm building kullervo, he'll be done in 4 days so no warthful advance yet

[formal tusk]

Ye i use acuity since i mainly focus and spray one after another, but some said ms is better

Especially on burston

[topaz verge]

Arcane battery

[violet silo]

ms is better for general use

[violet silo]

doesn't give you energy

[topaz verge]

But it does give me 1,000 energy to start with

[formal tusk]

General as in void cascade runs?

[solar reef]

acuity is explicitly better if you can consistantly hit weak points

if you’re just blindly firing MS would be better

[topaz verge]

But tbf I'm still having issues lol

[violet silo]

sure
but you have no sustain

[formal tusk]

Mobile autoaim aims chest first then if u aim a bit higher it autolocks to head no matter the recoil

[violet silo]

you're going to lose energy way faster than you gain it

[solar reef]

thats on you to figure out

[violet silo]

take off secrets, use equi and eternal war

[solar reef]

both multishot and acuity work at level cap on it

acuity is just for hyper-optimization

[topaz verge]

What should I do?

[topaz verge]

Eternal war? what's that?

[violet silo]

one of her augments

makes warcry go for a long time

[limber tide]

how can i make this better, i wanna put in mecha empowered in that empty slot but not just yet

[topaz verge]

The 2 seconds more one?

[solar reef]

get rid of blessing

[topaz verge]

I mean if I did have that I don't think i will need equilibrium

[limber tide]

my only other r5 is molt aug

[solar reef]

so use it

[limber tide]

i dont think it'd help her as much though

cuz i dont have equil on there

[solar reef]

its doing more than blessing

[limpid talon]

molt aug i find can be pretty handy, tho the great thing is with botb, you can farm out a whole bunch of arcanes

[solar reef]

you also have no shield gate

use an augur mod of choice

[limber tide]

how do i get augurs

[solar reef]

i recommend arcane eruption over blessing

her 1 turns into tile wide knock down

[limber tide]

oh

ive barely used her 1 xD

ive only been spamming 2 and 3 this whole time

[solar reef]

https://overframe.gg/build/428709/citrine/blinding-gemstones-steel-path-endurance-citrine/

[limber tide]

dangg psf is probably the hardest one to get there since its not being sold on wfmk, on top of that im broke in plat

[turbid relic]

this still good?

[solar reef]

you cant trade PSF

[limber tide]

oh

[solar reef]

Its a daily login reward

[limpid talon]

psf is a daily login reward, and imho not that good

[solar reef]

Until you get PSF, you can just use handspring

[topaz verge]

Why do u have archon stretch on citrine? Does she do electric damage?

[limber tide]

theres so much i needa learn abt building bro im mr8 with all of my warframes i havent built properly

[long portal]

she does

[solar reef]

she primes for every status

[long portal]

every HCET status

she doesnt do combined elements

[topaz verge]

She does?

[long portal]

sure does

[limber tide]

her 3 does

[solar reef]

well every base element

[turbid relic]

?

[solar reef]

nothing combined

[long portal]

and puncture slash from her 1

[topaz verge]

Oh that's nice I didn't know that

[limber tide]

that too yh

[topaz verge]

Also u need equilibrium on citrine for her 1st ability

[solar reef]

if youre desparate to use the companion augment you’d slot it over augur

[limber tide]

the build i have on her is just with the mods i had available to me that i thought would be good for her, base with nothing on it looks like this

[solar reef]

this means you have to use brief though

[limber tide]

it might be a problem since ive already forma'd this build

[solar reef]

also you can use archon continuity instead of continuity, obviously

[limpid talon]

end of the day, use what you have even if it isnt perfect, its still far better than nothing

[limber tide]

true

i may or may not if i can get it switch out arch flow w/ primed flow

[topaz verge]

Should o go full electric on my valkyr with melee influence?

[limber tide]

i think the main problem would be getting new mods and endoing them unless i buy them cheap maxed (impossible)

and also that im saving to put omni forma rather than madu for her aura

[limpid talon]

honestly most mods arent that bad for endo, its the 10 rank mods that get crazy, but for those you dont really need to max them

[limber tide]

true

ig it all depends idk

oh augur reach is from cetus isnt it

[limpid talon]

yeah think the augur mods are plains bounties

[limber tide]

bruh

i needa go there for aya anyways but still

hey whats a good build for steflos?

https://overframe.gg/build/993953/steflos/casually-revisiting-elementalist-steflos/

cuz i found this one

but idk if its good or not

if its good ill figure out smth to get it

[waxen compass]

does huras invis work with xaku?

[mighty flare]

could be improved, dont want 3 slots doing same thing, pure heat works with external viral
i use this: https://overframe.gg/build/930379/?saved=1778005970328

2.4s reload speeds gonna feel slow no matter what

[solar reef]

as long as you’re using him as a caster yeah

Iirc stolen guns count as an ability rather than weapons

id check wiki though

[limber tide]

lemme go ahead and get galv accel rq

[solar reef]

i feel like you’re missing out on the glory of Xata’s Whisper with a set up like that

[mighty flare]

small range is one of its main issues mhm

[limber tide]

oh wait i dont have exilus weapon adapter

cooked i just got the mod

[gray quarry]

Zuckerbot??

[valid cargo]

Does anyone have a strong build for Loki?

[molten nimbus]

Tips for building Follie? I'm MR7

[mighty flare]

take look at: #1487164102379049051 message

[mighty flare]

who'd that be 🥸

[solar reef]

loki himself just wants 2 augments (Damage Decoy and Safeguard)

other than those two you can build entirely for your subsume of choice

(Mind control would be preferred if you want to take him and damage decoy to cap)

[molten nimbus]

Thanks, I'm just starting to build it ❤️

[solar reef]

obviously you subsume over his 4th, to follow this up

Other than that, crepescular is there

[violet silo]

talons constantly drain battery so I doubt that

[dire terrace]

whats a good mesa build?

[placid falcon]

Anyone have good Paris prime or akbrako prime builds?

[placid falcon]

Quick thinking mod is super op with mesa, that’s all I know

[frigid plover]

FR?

Isnt having fortifier on a secondary better?

And have outburst on regulators for dps

Im using roar atm so I'll check this out when my grendel finishes cooking in the foundry

[frigid plover]

When I'm playing solo I die almost all the time since my energy economy is really bad

[placid falcon]

I used mesa once a while back but I remember specifically using quick thinking to crank up the fourth ability. I prioritize speed and energy efficiency in my builds.

[frigid plover]

Wouldn't nourish and max range muzzle flash be better?

[placid falcon]

Never used those so wouldn’t know.

I only play speed + melee builds 70% of the time tbh.

[valid cargo]

Soooooo Cyte-09 helmith loki or mind control loki?

[frigid plover]

I think you can shield gate with her so that would really help out with survivability

However you would still need a lot of energy

Which again relies on nourish

[dire terrace]

huh..

[old marsh]

Jade Loki

[valid cargo]

Lol

[old marsh]

Ophanim Eyes on Loki. Lvl cap shit

[gray quarry]

Evade harrow

[frigid plover]

Yo would boar be better than burston for mesa

In stacking the topaz shards

[mighty flare]

you can use regulators themselves to stack topaz shards

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-ew-wtf-no-disgusted-gif-11058683547538402693

Wisp Harrow

[gray quarry]

Fine fine, evade mesa

[old marsh]

Brother Sister

[frigid plover]

But what if I have the ceramic dagger in carbon?

Incarnon

Iirc there was something about 100 primary kills

[mighty flare]

boar better for trash clear

[solar reef]

on mesa you should use furax

[dire terrace]

Meat, can i ask you smth?

[dire terrace]

yo Malz, hows it goin

[mighty flare]

👋

[solar reef]

just living my fat chud life

[dire terrace]

whats a good Mesa build, ability and the mods, im asking to you two bc you two know the good stuff

[solar reef]

nothing happens

[mighty flare]

list of examples in: #1500489300754825367 message
take a gander

[dire terrace]

most of these i do not understand like, which one does which

[mighty flare]

first 3 all focus on her regulators but use different methods of surviving
last one is if you wanted to use mesa to platform a different weapon

[dire terrace]

hm... is there a build that uses a nokko ability?

[mighty flare]

all except the persistence setup, you could just drop it in over nourish

wouldnt need equilibrium

[gleaming vapor]

ew brightbonnet

[dire terrace]

hmmm? can you show me that specificly?

[queen sandal]

hi meat

[mighty flare]

hi sombra

[subtle solstice]

since archon shards exist, wouldnt it be better to main secondaries since the red ones boost crit chance of secondaries?

[gleaming vapor]

don’t use red crit chance man

oranges are just better

and aren’t that hard to proc

[subtle solstice]

explain

[coral crest]

Also because secondaries are generally stronger weapons

Also because secondaries have much more variety in arcanes

This game is ran by a cabal of evil Yareli mains

[gleaming vapor]

gives 50% more cc relative to each shards (50% vs 75% on tau) and easy proc (killing things with a heat proc on it)

[coral crest]

[subtle solstice]

i see....

[mighty flare]

oh yeah, mesa & excal updates are finished, so you can add it whenever

[queen sandal]

I just got in bed lol

[gleaming vapor]

i lowk don’t get why people want brightbonnet mesa so much

like ig the energy is nice

[mighty flare]

youtuber slop

[gleaming vapor]

figured

20 whole strength 🔥🔥🔥

maybe 40 if you’re running arbucep

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[dire terrace]

so sorry for repeating, but could you perchnce show me that

[fierce lark]

i still haven't farmed my first nokko lol

but also brightbonnet kinda just looks like ass in general

[gleaming vapor]

i farmed it for arbi

[fierce lark]

stationary buffs 😬

[gleaming vapor]

but yeah outside of arbi it’s kinda ass

ig caliban could use it

because of his weird ass strength scaling

[fierce lark]

but then no viral orthos cringe

[mighty flare]

you just take any of the builds and replace nourish with bright bonnet then get to drop equilibrium

ig precision?

[dire terrace]

oki,

[mighty flare]

shieldgating would be awkward ig, would have to keep 1 if you're just staying in her 4

[limber tide]

i needa build fror perigale prime...

[gleaming vapor]

i wonder if you can animation cancel brightbonnet

i’ll go test that rq

[mighty flare]

i liked this one: https://overframe.gg/build/504083/perigale/definitely-not-a-sniper-raw-damage-steel-path-levelcap-perigale/

[limber tide]

i have to unlock steel paqth dont i

so i can put on primary deadhead

[gleaming vapor]

ill be back in 5 minutes

wait thats supposed to be brightbonnet

lemme go subsume that

so in conclusion

brightbonnet is fine

nourish is still better (by a long shot)

but brightbonnet is good energy econ if youre camping in one spot ig

some people like that

[wraith sinew]

I has an idea

Blast influence redeemer on shock trooper volt with xatas

Cernos bow thing for grouping

Would this work?

[violet silo]

work how

[wraith sinew]

Well

[violet silo]

this just sounds like blast and xata

[wraith sinew]

But with redeemer

As opposed to a primary

[violet silo]

which does what

[wraith sinew]

Does the gunblade shot work with volt shield

[pearl tusk]

who wanna play together?

[violet silo]

yes

[wraith sinew]

So do I build redeemer for heavy attack then or use the neutral combo fire

[solar reef]

yes, so does corufell(gun blade but better)

[drowsy herald]

What is a good secondary which can kill acolytes and go well with secondary fortifer. Not laetum because iam tried of getting staggered by it's incarnon form everytime I don't have overguard. I don't have psf yet

[stiff lichen]

Hi does anyone have a decent hate build for incarnon form

[solar reef]

heavy spam or light/hybrid

[mossy rapids]

titania is still worth building right?

[gleaming vapor]

fastest frame in the game

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/grendel-warframe-club-penguin-dance-grendel-dance-gif-23939928

those who roll

[gleaming vapor]

have you seen a max strength titania?

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

grendel ball is the second fastest frame across POE/Drift (Fornerly First)

First is currently Revenant

[vestal temple]

any proof

[solar reef]

i mean you’d have to roll back through forums for speed trials

its pretty well documented

grendel catapult physics are pretty nuts

[gleaming vapor]

idk titania with max strength and 4 stacks is pretty fast

[solar reef]

Unfortunately with the Volt 2 nerf, Titania and Grendel are both out of the race

Leaving Revenant at the top

Another frame that was really close to being the fastest was Sling Excalibur

which got patched out with 1999

[vestal temple]

voruna used to be pretty fast too

before her change

iirc she was the fastest with high casting

[solar reef]

she was fast but not really competitive with frames that scaled so dramatically with volt’s 2 (Grendel and Titania)

If we go by solo runs Revenant still outsped

[vestal temple]

i still want to see your proof for grendel 2 being the 2nd fastest though

[solar reef]

you’d just have to tun through forums i dont know what to tell you

[vestal temple]

id expect you to prove your claims das all lemme go find it

[solar reef]

I dont want to scrounge the forums today

[vestal temple]

neither

[solar reef]

cant find a good corner to corner clip

But if you want the run down its just abusing certain hills/mountains to build stupid momentum + catapult to fling it as speeds that it very clearly was not intended to move at

The fortunate thing about catapult is that it scales with parkour speed and movementspeed

its goofy and hyper specific

[limber tide]

melee afflictions is it good for corufell yes or no

if i am gonna run citrine steflos and corufell

[solar reef]

not particularly no

you just build it with the generic Primed Fever Strike + Melee Exposure heavy spam set up

@limber tide This is obviously not corufell but you’d use the same build (minus the stance)

though with corufell you might rather have galvanized elementalist instead of regular due to its attrociously bad status chance

If you’re using either Voruna or Caliban you can probably weasel in an Influence set up but generally its harder to do with its SC

[drowsy herald]

Iam glad volt got nerfed. Was doing ascension today and the guy kept spamming his ability and even with the nerf it was a pain in the ass and we kept falling below the elevator by overshooting it

[solar reef]

i think thinks like Volt’s speed buff and such should be toggleable

Like a “I would not like to recieve buffs from allies, thanks” button

[limber tide]

im using citrine

[solar reef]

so you would just ignore that last last bit

the image sent is still what you’d probably want to be using

Corufell is MultiCO, meaning you will do substantial amounts more danage to primed enemies

[limber tide]

i have some of those mods on hand

basically every single one aside from the primed ones 😭

[topaz verge]

Which build is better and why?

[latent adder]

Neither? Both need slight adjustment

On the right one swap organ shatter for blood rush

And pressure point for voltaic

Or spring loaded blade

[opal leaf]

Both has its flaws

Incomplete. Cause it's not using the crabsweat format. Ninjase gave you the reason

[topaz verge]

I'm using the one on the right, the one on the left is my friend's and he did better than me lol so I wanted to ask

[opal leaf]

Like on the left one, I would go replace sac steel with Galv steel

[topaz verge]

But doesn't sac steel give more crit chance?

[opal leaf]

If Galv steel is stacked, it'll give more than what sac steel can offer

But sac steel is very conditional, it's used in some builds too. Just in crabsweat, I'd go Galv steel

Unless someone would correct me that I'm wrong, I would suggest use Galv Steel instead

[topaz verge]

So I did like what ninjase said to my build

[opal leaf]

Then test it

[latent adder]

Wdym by did better? How does one measure performance accurately lol

Im just using maths , in game its gonna be impossible to tell tbh

[topaz verge]

Killed more enemies faster while his Valk is level 0 and mine is max

[latent adder]

But like that's not an accurate test

Did u use spin attacks

Or her 1 etc

[topaz verge]

I didn't but he did

[latent adder]

You need to be spinning and spamming 1

[topaz verge]

I also don't have primed reach

[topaz verge]

Why

[opal leaf]

Valkyr is quite hard to understandddddddd

[latent adder]

Cuz thats how u play valk

Highest dps

[topaz verge]

Aw man, I thought it was just RIP AND TEAR UNTIL IT'S DONE

[latent adder]

Its brainless spin to win

[opal leaf]

It is.. But with added moves

[topaz verge]

How do I spin

[latent adder]

Hold forward, crouch and attack

[opal leaf]

Forward (W) and then controk (Cntrl) in Keyboard

[topaz verge]

How would it help?

[opal leaf]

Spin attacks usually have big damage

[topaz verge]

So that dude scammed me and dogged on my build because he spinned and I didn't?

[opal leaf]

And it's easier to do spin, than slam and such

[topaz verge]

Why is pressure point a bad idea?

[opal leaf]

It's not really a bad idea, didn't Ninjase told you to replace voltaic strike with pressure point?

[topaz verge]

He asked me to do the opposite

[opal leaf]

Uhhh no

[opal leaf]

Read again what he meant

[topaz verge]

Yeah he said that I should use voltac instead

[opal leaf]

No he said use Pressure Point instead of Voltaic Strike

That's what his words meant

[topaz verge]

But I didn't have voltaic strike on

[opal leaf]

Then remove Organ Shatter for Pressure Point

[wet scroll]

does any of you have a really good nautilus prime build ?

[topaz verge]

I removed it for bloody rush just like he said

[opal leaf]

Ah OK then that's good

[opal leaf]

What do you need for Nautilus?

[topaz verge]

Man I'm confused so is primed pressure point good on valkyr or not?

[opal leaf]

It is

[topaz verge]

So should I put it back instead of voltaic

[hard creek]

Could someone give me a good build for Nautilus and Verglas?

[wet scroll]

this is the build i am using you got any adjustments i should do ? @opal leaf

[opal leaf]

Oh guess Valkyr s build is different

[hard creek]

What timing!

[opal leaf]

Galvanized mods doesn't work on companions really

[wet scroll]

it is the one i am using

[near vortex]

They do, you have to stack it with your own primary though

[wet scroll]

i don't have split chamber yet so i am using this for now

[opal leaf]

Ah then it's more on consistency then

[near vortex]

Just kill something with any rifle primary every once in a while and you're in buisness

[opal leaf]

Ah OK, it's ok

[near vortex]

Also you'd rather use the cold 60/60 and the 90% heat mod

[opal leaf]

But in my verglas I want to go Priming, not dps (cause I don't have tazicor)

[near vortex]

Better weightings

[opal leaf]

On verglas? Right?

[near vortex]

Yeah

[solar reef]

chat how essential is Animal Instinct atp

[solar reef]

drop verglas and use burst laser prime

[solar reef]

like we have innate 30m now

[opal leaf]

You want loot and see how many enemies? There

[wet scroll]

can you tell me why is that (just learning)

[near vortex]

It's nice to have
Loot Radar and Enemy Radar are pretty useful if you use minimap

[opal leaf]

Woah

. Wait why?

[near vortex]

Higher heat modded = you proc more heat

You'd rather proc more heat because viral is capped and heat is not

[wet scroll]

alr

[opal leaf]

I don't have Burst Lazer prime yet

But would burst works?

[formal tusk]

Would this be neat w the last slot having vile acceleration?

[near vortex]

Yeah it's one of the most used primer sentinel weapons

[wet scroll]

any other adjustments ?

[solar reef]

lower status chance but it hits 50% CC for Bond mod

[opal leaf]

Make it viral

[near vortex]

Ideally you fill out the other two slots

[opal leaf]

Hmmm oh for Tenacious Bond?

[solar reef]

Your priming isnt really done through the weapon, its done through precepts

[wet scroll]

how do people grind all of that forma

[formal tusk]

Oh i dont have malignant slapped, but i need to rather make it corrosive w a viral primer

[opal leaf]

Ohhhh ya gotcha

[near vortex]

Plague Star when that's around

[wet scroll]

if you check the ss it is perfectly upgraded meaning there is no more space for modifications unless you take something out

0/60

[opal leaf]

Why? Ohhh ok I understand

But Braton and Burston usually modded with Viral

It's like... Essential for these guns

Unless I'm wrong, then they can correct me

[near vortex]

[wet scroll]

how many forma do i want ?

[formal tusk]

High level sp, means more armor, rendering viral useless without corrosive

[near vortex]

Like two maybe

[wet scroll]

i only have 1 ro 2 omni formas

[near vortex]

Use base forma

[wet scroll]

omni formas work ?

[wet scroll]

ig that is something to grind

[near vortex]

Omni forma is harder to come by, keep those

[opal leaf]

Your Braton can do heat

Partial armor strip is enough to kill them

[wet scroll]

what is the diffrence between normal forma and omni forma any way ?

i just crafted the omni forma cuz i could

i didn't craft the umbral forma cuz i didn't think i would use the umbral mods that often due to their cost of upgrading

[hard creek]

Okay, so could someone share a full build for Nautilus and Verglas? I'll have any mods I need, or I can buy them immediately if I'm missing any.

[wet scroll]

and i don't use melee that often since i only use broken war for melee

[near vortex]

Omni forma works for all polarities but is expensive

[wet scroll]

and use nataruk for primary

[opal leaf]

I haven't heard of people struggling in high SP than needs full armor strip

Usually they would just slap Viral Heat at an enemy and call it a day... Especially on Burston

[near vortex]

Base forma is more easy to obtain

[wet scroll]

other than umbral

[wet scroll]

but ???

how do formas work bro

[near vortex]

But you have to choose a polarity

[wet scroll]

i've never used any

[wet scroll]

OHHHH

[wet scroll]

omni formas switch it to the all around type

[wet scroll]

wait is there a way to fast check my equipment from my phone ?

[near vortex]

My build is three forma but it might be two if you do vile acceleration over shred