builds-discussion

[granite ginkgo]

blast + toxic, u can use the archon continuity - it proc and better pair with arcane impetus

[velvet pulsar]

Crushing Ruin

[thorn spindle]

Does anyone have a good Nautilus Prime build that's good for everything?

[vital glade]

thanks

[cloud pivot]

torid works with primary overcharge right?

no underlying issues like galv status% on it?

[unkempt rivet]

So we all know the kuva karak isn’t exactly…
Good
But if you were to use a riven for it
What would you want on it?

[woeful hull]

would this work good for a enkaus alt fire build if can call it that

[wary forge]

the alfire does no dmg u just use it to spread ink lol

[woeful hull]

its has insta kill on 35% health, if you use a dot it will account to those 35%

[woeful hull]

the ink

[wary forge]

they just have to be inked

the alt fire doesnt have to kill them

[woeful hull]

obv

[wary forge]

yes

so just press the alt fire

why would u build around it lol

[woeful hull]

fun ?

[wary forge]

its not even that its fun tho the alt fire legit does no dmg

[solar reef]

pre release alt fire was pretty nuts

[woeful hull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4LGHyZLtMo

[solar reef]

it was like 50% ehp

[woeful hull]

damn

[solar reef]

holy clickbait

[gray quarry]

The altfire does no damage so you’re trying to add damage to something that does no damage. Why

[gray quarry]

Atleast it’s not Mhblacky

[solar reef]

could have been Knightmare frame or Gaz, I guess

https://tenor.com/view/gabagool-shon-son-im-crine-james-gandolfini-sopranos-gif-5632752440652965130

[gray quarry]

Knightmareframes build would’ve been psf in every slot

[wary forge]

and a random koumei rant every 5 minutes

[solar reef]

is he pro or anti koumei

[magic cargo]

would arcane concentration work on voruna?

[solar reef]

why would you need to use it

[magic cargo]

duration

[solar reef]

like primed/archon continuity is more than enough

you dont need more duration

use augmented and impetus so you can build for as much range as you want

since your arcanes cover your strength

[magic cargo]

if i use those 2 arcanes i wouldnt need any strength mods?

[solar reef]

you still want strength mods

you just dont need a bunch of them

since those two arcanes make up 138% on her

[magic cargo]

alright

but if i sumbsume roar on the 4th ability i should use precision intesify?

[gray quarry]

Nah

[solar reef]

heres my melee setup

[magic cargo]

i dont really want a melee setup

[solar reef]

thats why you put roar over her 4

[gray quarry]

Why rolling guard when 2 passive(or are you using it for iframes)

[solar reef]

its to cleanse/panic button

her passive doesnt cleanse it only prevents

[wary forge]

he just hates her for no reason

thinks shes easily the worst frame

[solar reef]

so when youre running between exo’s its handy comfort

[magic cargo]

i mean the roar buff dosent work on the status spread?

[gray quarry]

Hmmmm, you right

[gray quarry]

It does

[solar reef]

it does but you’re using melee to get there

Shes literally the best melee platformer in the game with roar/wa over her 4

and thats for her 2 nuke setups

[magic cargo]

well i was thinking of using the mecha mods set

[solar reef]

you do you I guess

Generally for 2/melee set ups you just prioritize range

[gray quarry]

That’s good for her 4 build

[mighty flare]

you can

[mint linden]

can my sentinel weapon trigger primary blight arcane?

[magic cargo]

idk man i aint really that good with building i just formed a general idea from youtube and some other builds

[solar reef]

no

Frostbite does work with them

[mighty flare]

if you wanna learn about voruna, you can look at: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1492606866482794601

[solar reef]

Blight unfortunately does not

[mint linden]

thats sad

thanks tho

[low prism]

Xaku build plz

[untold magnet]

Hello guys, I just wanted to ask how could someone start tackling on steel path? i am on MR11 about to enter MR12 but I can't even finish the first missions in steel path and i haven't been able to increase my frame power for some reason. is my builds just don't allow me to take on steel path missions?

[violet silo]

mods

[solar reef]

send your builds, will try to help

[untold magnet]

can i send you a private message? or should i just send it here?

[mint linden]

id send private so it doesnt take up the channel, if theyre ok with dms

[solar reef]

here works

[solar reef]

why? its a builds channel

why have a builds channel if you cant send builds

that would be stupid

[untold magnet]

okay

[solar reef]

If its something I cant provide input on, you want it to be visible to other players who may have something that could help

never be concerned about posting build sheets here

[mint linden]

fair, im just used to other servers that way

[untold magnet]

this is my strongest build of uriel

i can't seem to get it any stronger than this, it could be that i still don't understand the game mechanics and if that's the case then sorry 😞 help me out

[solar reef]

https://overframe.gg/build/935570/uriel/fire-and-brimstone-uriel-hybrid-nuke-and-weapon-platform/

[rose wedge]

Does it affect the corrosive projection mod? I'm considering to get this mod for my jade.

[solar reef]

to start, get rid of steel charge and fury
they do nothing for your setup ultimately

[untold magnet]

should i implement these builds?

[solar reef]

energy nexus is a hugely wasted slot

it takes you 10 seconds you get 30 energy, thats super slow

a companion + equilibrium will solve 99% of your energy issues

[untold magnet]

so equilibrium is better?

[solar reef]

pair this with a companion that can hit several enemies

energy issues gone

[violet silo]

20.7% armor strip

[solar reef]

aside from a few general info-bits i cant help much as i dont play or like uriel

[magic cargo]

i came up with this with roar sumbsumed on the 4th ability

[solar reef]

i would read into the ninjase guide

[solar reef]

needs an augur mod somewhere, otherwise its fine

[rose wedge]

im considering getting it since jade can have 2 auras, so maybe it would help me more than regular exilus mods

[magic cargo]

well instead of umbral intesify

[solar reef]

i personally would use augur strength instead of umbral intensify for a little shield gate sustain

[magic cargo]

yeah

[solar reef]

you’ll lose only like 20% or so strength

[magic cargo]

14%

[solar reef]

yeah

you can eat that comfortably for the safety provided by shield gate

[magic cargo]

nah 20%

i still get alot of strenght from my arcanes

[untold magnet]

what would you recommend?

[solar reef]

Hounds, Panzers, Diriga

they provide the most aoe priming options

[untold magnet]

is there a Warframe you might think i should consider trying? 🤔

[solar reef]

theres 64 warframes I cant tell you who to play

[untold magnet]

i think i got a panzer and diriga

[magic cargo]

play the most brain dead frame: revenant

[mighty flare]

dont need augur on voruna herself, can offload that to your secondary

[untold magnet]

yea but just a recommendation to try from your opinion

[magic cargo]

press 2

[solar reef]

i always just recommend augur mods on the frame itself since its concrete in your build

[timber sparrow]

did i cook

[solar reef]

but yeah it can be offloaded

[untold magnet]

haven't tried it yet, i might try it and see

[magic cargo]

press 2 and stay alive, and then maybe if you want submsume roar for more damage

[magic cargo]

wouldnt it be safer with the augur mod tho?

[solar reef]

you still get the augur mod, its just on your secondary

The bonus is the same ultimately

[mighty flare]

yea, same thing, you just arent wasting a slot on voruna

[solar reef]

Its better on the secondary

[solar reef]

.

[untold magnet]

yea i will try it forsure 😭

[solar reef]

every now and then you just arent paying attention to your builds/loadouts

so its nice to have it on your frame itself

i personally use brief respite since its for the same end-result

[magic cargo]

well wouldnt i just be invisible and use the secondary passive almost all the time?

[solar reef]

you arent permanantly invisible

it disappears as soon as you attack

[magic cargo]

i know that

[solar reef]

It takes a single aoe attack or a strat bullet to break your shield and or kill you

since you’re constantly spamming your 1/2 in and out of attacks you can comfortably shield gate with one augur/brief mod

[magic cargo]

and on the shards talk i should use some casting speed, and then abilty damage or violet shards for crit damage on the melee?

[solar reef]

if you’re using 4 spam, you use ability damage shards, but you’ve subsumed your 4

you would use Purples for crit

maybe 1 or 2 for casting if you feel you need it

[magic cargo]

if would use some emerald with the purple for the toxin damage?

[solar reef]

not needed

[magic cargo]

ok then

damn i dont have tauforged violet 💀

[solar reef]

you dont really need any

atp its just for the fun of it

[magic cargo]

well if i do it i want it all the way

[frigid crater]

Gonna sell half of my arcanes to get hotshot R5 lol

[magic cargo]

just do ETA

[frigid crater]

Meh

[vital glade]

hi malz, quick question, what were those shards you recommended to the 100 Forma Yareli on Voruna Prime? it was full corrosive, right?

I plan to use the same build with the ability 4 spam

[solar reef]

a casting speed shard and 4 greens for ability damage on enemies affected by corrosive

as its functionally a final damage multiplier for her 4 assuming you’ve primed enemies with corrosive

any of the “15% Ability Damage on enemies affected by X status” works

[vital glade]

with what exactly?

just any primer with corrosive or something? wouldn't that need me to get off her 4?

[solar reef]

green just happens to be the most consistant since continuity functionally doubles your odds of getting corrosive

[solar reef]

no???? its literally the point of her 2

[vital glade]

oh right

[solar reef]

her 2 is her strongest ability why are we ignoring it

the strongest priming tool in the entire game btw

[vital glade]

oh it's completely random

I thought it was....based on the mods you've got on your weapons, my bad

[solar reef]

you can just cast it multiplie times until you get the desired status effects

its why impetus is so good on her

[vital glade]

I should really switch around my keybinds, make ability 2 mouse 5 and put alt fire on mouse 3

should make constantly using 2 nowhere near as bad on my fingers

[solar reef]

If you have a full range setup + prey of dynar you have a 45m status nuke of 13 status

you should never NOT have enemies primed as voruna

[vital glade]

wait can you change keybinds on one frame?

[solar reef]

i dont play on pc i have no clue

[vital glade]

ah right

[solar reef]

of course i absolute hate her 4 so take whatever i say about it with a grain of salt

Im just running off of general build knowledge and numbers

[worthy kestrel]

What’s the best okina evolution?

[vital glade]

now question is, which mod do I switch out for prey of dynar? or can I forego it for ability strength and range if I wanna be a 4 spamming psychopath?

[solar reef]

i dont know what your build looks like so I couldnt tell you

[vital glade]

that's fair, I don't really need the specific knowledge, just learning about the game mechanics is fun enough

OH RIGHT ARCHON CONTINUITY GIVES CORROSIVE

I was thinking "wait corrosive from where exactly?" and then it hit me

[solar reef]

you dont even need archon continuity for it

it just makes it more consistant since you also then get it from tox

[vital glade]

this be the build

[solar reef]

drop precision

[vital glade]

though now I'm realizing maybe I should probably switch out the mecha mods for now til I get that last mecha mod?

[solar reef]

or mecha pulse

i would just run mecha empowered but thats me

i dont really care enough for mecha nukes since her 2 already scales far enough

[vital glade]

fairs, so that's mecha pulse for prey of dynar and switching my keybinds

are 5 green archon shards overkill

/unnecessary

[fair raft]

which one should I keep? kinda have a hard time deciding

[wary forge]

Left but neg dmg to grineer is pretty rough I would keep rolling it

[solar reef]

both have huge icks

[solar reef]

i’d go 4 green + 1 yellow for casting

[fair raft]

yeah I decide to keep the left one, thank you for suggestion

[vital glade]

got it!

[knotty halo]

So I'm working on a Eversong Bow Build, and I have a question.

The mod Firestorm, would it work with Eversongs charged shot/radial attack?

[magic cargo]

either something isnt working right or i messed up cuz i get only 17% buff from roar after all the arcanes are maxed

[wary forge]

How much strength u got

Roar gets reduced effect when subsumed as well

[magic cargo]

139% +molt augumented + arcane impetus

[naive hinge]

does Tenacious Bond makes you do 2.2x damage ?

[digital gate]

I finally found the appeal to Octavia. I couldn't figure out that damn little ball. But I found this simple beat on Google that works phenomenally!

[distant jackal]

Guys is the hate augment Spagetti coded?

I feel like it works even when the heat is combined

Its kinda hard to see cuz i get different numbers everytime w the same build

But thats what is feels like

[wary forge]

Well it’s not gonna count those unless they are stacked

[magic cargo]

how could they not stacks ?

[dusky bane]

is the ability leveled

[wary forge]

Like just going into the simulacrum molt with give u any strength u have to get the kills to get the strength

[magic cargo]

i am currently leveling voruna

[dusky bane]

that might be the issue

[magic cargo]

lets hope

[wary forge]

Well that’s why

It’s prob not a max rank roar

[thorn spindle]

Does anyone have a good Nautilus Prime build

[naive hinge]

..

[dusky bane]

no

[naive hinge]

what does it do

[wary forge]

1.2x extra crit dmg on everything

Pretty much essential on every build

[naive hinge]

ye thats what i asked about so basicly op ?

[wary forge]

Ye it’s very good

[naive hinge]

nice and i just discovered it ?

just double free damage ?

[wary forge]

It’s just more damage

[naive hinge]

its double right ?

[wary forge]

It’s 1.2

[naive hinge]

cuz +1 final

[dusky bane]

Critical damage multiplier is a flat final and follows the formula 1 + (tier * (crit multi - 1 + final)) where the first tier is yellow (eg. skana multi is 1.5x which is brought to 2.7x (2.7x on yellow, 4.4x on orange, 6.1x on red and so on) the impact lessens depending on modded critical multiplier)

[wary forge]

It depends on the multi

[naive hinge]

so is the damage difference big ?

[dusky bane]

noticable

[naive hinge]

does bite get any animal to 50% ?

so how ? @dusky bane

[fierce lark]

bite gets a number of claws to 50+

[celest turret]

I'm liking sun and moon. Any good builds?

[naive hinge]

am i safe with panzer ?

[fierce lark]

ie anything with 12% base cc or higher

will get 50%+ with bite

panzer is one

[dusky bane]

are you allergic to doing math or something? 😭

[wary forge]

Most kavats with just bite can get it

[naive hinge]

nuh

[wary forge]

Some kubrows need bite and the link mod

[naive hinge]

just wanted to talk about him

is panzer one of the best animals ?

[fierce lark]

just look at this list, anything with 12% in the left column can use tbond

[wary forge]

Panzer is pretty good yes

[naive hinge]

why is bite 60 plat 😭

[fierce lark]

panzer is the most commonly used beast by a mile yes

[dusky bane]

can use only tbond*

[dusky bane]

try farming it and you'll see

[fierce lark]

?

[naive hinge]

is the 60 plat deserved ?

[dusky bane]

they can ALL use it
but only those with 12+ can JUST use that

[fierce lark]

panzer can use both tbond and rbond if thats what you're implying

[naive hinge]

or is there other way to get 50cr ?

[dusky bane]

try farming it :)

[naive hinge]

how ":)"

[dusky bane]

check wiki

[fierce lark]

it's 60 plat because the farm for it is absolutely atrocious

[naive hinge]

what the actual *****

[prime scarab]

yeah I'd rather farm another citrine than go for bite

[fierce lark]

you have to get all 3 caches on earth sabotage and it's like 1/30 chance to get

[prime scarab]

At least then I would be able to subsume her

[dusky bane]

and now you see why it's 60p

[naive hinge]

1/3000

[naive hinge]

should i just buy it ? i have 170

[prime scarab]

Some rares you just buy because the alternative is pain

[naive hinge]

whats the matter about citrine

[dusky bane]

ye, that's not correct

you might ACTUALLY be allergic to math 😭

[naive hinge]

isnt it the sabotage ?

[prime scarab]

Its just a rough farm lol

A mission type that isn't super fun, nobody is generally doing it, and it takes a LOT

[dusky bane]

it literally says 3.67%
how is that 1 in 3k

[naive hinge]

the keyboord

[naive hinge]

i saw this

[fierce lark]

"avg per roll" means the average amount of the item you'll get each time you roll for it (when you complete the mission with the requirements fulfilled)

[dusky bane]

it's 1 in 28

[wary forge]

It’s like 1 in every 11k kubrow kills I think u get bite lmao

[naive hinge]

....@dusky bane

[dusky bane]

#builds-discussion message

[wary forge]

U can transmute it but ye just buy it

[dusky bane]

transmuting is bigger copium than killing kubrows

[fierce lark]

meaning when you do a sabotage with all 3 caches, you'll get an average of 0.0367 bites

[wary forge]

Ye transmuting it isn’t much better

[naive hinge]

whats the dif between it and normal chance

[dusky bane]

it's the same thing

[fierce lark]

to actually hit the rate of getting something, you need to do it enough times to where your "avg per roll" equals to 1

[dusky bane]

3% is the same as 0.03 if 1 is the max

[naive hinge]

how is it 3 to 0.03

[fierce lark]

so you divide 1 by whatever "avg per roll" says

[naive hinge]

ah

[dusky bane]

3 per cent
cent comes from latin centum which means 100
3 per 100
divide 3 by 100 for me

[fierce lark]

multiplying the "avg per roll" for something by 100 will give you the % chance of getting it

[silk ether]

Anyone know what are the best evolution choices for dread incarnon?

[naive hinge]

i am not *** i didnt know the used % in one and the percentege in another

[fierce lark]

which is literally just shifting the decimal point to the right twice

[naive hinge]

I felt it pointless

like why

just say one of them

[silk ether]

Why yall argueing about percents?

[fierce lark]

hitmans, preference, i think zeroed in last

[naive hinge]

so ill just go buy it
-# "

[silk ether]

Ight I think im using that already. Is the base crit chance increase or the +1x crit damage better though cause the crit chance helps me get 200% crit which means every hit should be a orange crit and double my crit damage while the other only increases it by 1

[wary forge]

TLDR just buy it ye it’s not worth the effort at all

[naive hinge]

especialy after i mastered *** LUA SPY FARM ***

[wary forge]

Farming spy

[silk ether]

Buy what?

[silk ether]

Lua spy is awful

[wary forge]

Bite

[naive hinge]

nuh i liked it

[silk ether]

Idek what that is

[naive hinge]

then i made the companion that hack throw walls

[wary forge]

….

[naive hinge]

for companion +300% cc

[silk ether]

Sonion theres too many items in the game for me to know everything

[naive hinge]

that activates tenacious bond that gives u +1.2 final crit damage

[silk ether]

Exactly like im not remembering companion mods

[dusky bane]

it's not that bad

[wary forge]

Ballrightt

[naive hinge]

yeh its fun

[silk ether]

Meh. I failed the archon spy 3 times though 😭 ✌️

My teammates were buns and I was only responsible for one of the fails

[dusky bane]

sortie/hunt spy is a solo only type of ordeal

[naive hinge]

can u carry me in it ?

[old marsh]

recommended elements for Lato Vandal? Viral heat or Blast Electric?

[fierce lark]

survivors edge is slightly better on avg, but more varience, relies on getting more statuses from the extra status chance for apt & heat dmg

[dusky bane]

try both and see tbh

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-catstare-cat-stare-sus-catglare-cat-glare-gif-14942558849944709546

[dusky bane]

or try this I guess

[old marsh]

Corr Heat. uhhhh. i will pass.

[silk ether]

Ngl I need to watch some videos on how status effects are helpful on their own aside from mods and arcanes and other things that use them

[dusky bane]

why's that not acceptable but viral heat is

[silk ether]

If thats a thing

[fierce lark]

it's a pretty generic secondary, build viral heat or corrosive heat if you have nourish/pet priming viral

[dusky bane]

10% base SC goes hard for a viral build 🔥

[old marsh]

coz armor is not linear scaling unlike the dmg multiplier with viral.

[dusky bane]

your SC ain't enough to proc that viral big man

[old marsh]

yup

[deft shuttle]

how to do 100m+ dmg with atlas

[old marsh]

hence my question for Blast Electric

[deft shuttle]

mine only does 15m

[dusky bane]

which would require even more

[fierce lark]

22 with final evo, unless he's trying to play "swap every 4s" lato

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[dusky bane]

still too low to utilize imo

[old marsh]

hate that part but without swap u can still get 300+% CC and 10.5x CD

[dusky bane]

also corroheat uses 2 primed mods

so big damag

[fierce lark]

not at all, 22% is more than enough to use viral on a rapidfire handgun

[dusky bane]

in my defense, I don't own it so idk how it fires

[thin zephyr]

Is there stuff I should change that would help my dps

[old marsh]

if only it had enough shots to begin with. this aint furis

or angstrum

gonna have to use YT now 😭

[fierce lark]

yeah it does dip in/out of incarnon form all the time

[old marsh]

its pretty cheap since the changes. get it

like 30p

[dusky bane]

I'll likely farm it eventually

[thin zephyr]

Or is this good enough

[dusky bane]

300+ to 30 is insane 😭

[old marsh]

good luck even tho u dont need it. i farmed it in 6 runs of 4 ounds each

[dusky bane]

I still need focus, so 3 in 1

[old marsh]

ye

[fierce lark]

drop aptitude and change elements to heat+cold+elec to make corrosive blast

aptitude does almost nothing on the incarnon

[thin zephyr]

Okay okay

[old marsh]

if u have a 60/60 tox mod, use that instead

oh ye. drp apt as well if u use serration

[fierce lark]

there shouldn't be a tox mod at all unless you're trying to make boss killer torid

also i would strongly suggest using critical delay in place of either gscope or bane

[old marsh]

aah. u wanna make blast beam

[thin zephyr]

How do I change them out on the app

[fierce lark]

and probably replacing the other one with vile acceleration unless you have an external source of fire rate

no idea tbh

[thin zephyr]

Dang

[old marsh]

u cant

[thin zephyr]

Can you like make a build or show me one I’ll and then I’ll do it at home

[thin zephyr]

They should change that

[naive hinge]

what to get ?

[velvet pulsar]

Dissic is a good one

[old marsh]

Lega

[fierce lark]

heat - dot, strip, stacks compound. good vs armor/infested/anything that'll live longer than ~1s

elec - dot, does first tick instantly, has small aoe. good for general use

tox - dot, ignores shields, good for corpus/narmer

cold - 🤡

[dusky bane]

prism for MR probs

[velvet pulsar]

Wait nvm it was exard

[naive hinge]

lega or n5 better ?

[dusky bane]

lega gives MR

[old marsh]

😭 dont shame cold. it has its use with a specific arcane

[velvet pulsar]

Lega

[thin zephyr]

Can you like make a build or show me a Torid build then I’ll do it at home

[old marsh]

any prism u want tbh. i only said it for MR.

[velvet pulsar]

U could've said crowd control against eximus enemies

[old marsh]

what crowd? the one that evaporated 10 yrs ago?

[velvet pulsar]

The one which got too hot in Hiroshima

[naive hinge]

can i use this for standing ?

[wary forge]

Yes

[naive hinge]

damage part do you know what are the best ?

[naive hinge]

do i not need it in any other thing ?

[velvet pulsar]

Phahd Scaffold without competition.

[fierce lark]

corrosive strips armor, good vs grineer and anything with armor

viral adds 2-4.25x dmg to health, good vs generally everything

magnetic is viral for shields/overguard, good vs thrax, techrot, anything else with a lot of shields

blast is just 5m aoe, good to speed up trash clearing if you don't struggle to kill things

gas is up to 6m aoe at 10 stacks, relatively niche as it's weaker than intended, damage is bugged a bit when its target dies, only really good on weapons with very high status and damage per shot like daikyu/some melees

radiation - 🤡
(good damage type for eidolons)

[thin zephyr]

Does it steel path?

[velvet pulsar]

Homing, AoE, and Bounce.

[naive hinge]

what about prisms + i dont want to farm cetus ): so from the venus ones ?

[velvet pulsar]

Cantic Prism

[old marsh]

547 is your swiss army knife. check wiki for details

[old marsh]

even better. it does all your end game content

[naive hinge]

venus ones ): ?

[old marsh]

ye

[naive hinge]

4 is cetus

[velvet pulsar]

The log table of warframe.

[fierce lark]

cold exists because its the only primed rifle element, i promise if there was no pcr you'd never ever ever see "cold" on a primary lmao

[old marsh]

ye

[naive hinge]

so a replacement from venius ?

[old marsh]

u dont wanna do Eidolons?

[naive hinge]

no , i didnt do it before so idk about it

[velvet pulsar]

Or if all elements got primed?

[old marsh]

6 or 7. take your pick

[velvet pulsar]

Exard Scaffold

[old marsh]

ngl, i never tried it

but if he is recommending it, go for it

middle one is mostly only useful for one thing. when u go down and wanna revive yourself, u just alt spam

[thin zephyr]

I don’t got primed shred I have the normal and I don’t got critical delay or high voltage or thermite rounds how bads the farm

[old marsh]

as part of Unairu waybound

[old marsh]

u can skip shred and use any fire rate mod u got.

[thin zephyr]

I’ll prob just use shred

[old marsh]

i have 2 fire rate mods actually in tha build. its hillarious

[fierce lark]

if there was a primed element for everything, every gun would probably run 60/165/165 viral heat/viral elec/corrosive heat

[velvet pulsar]

It got famous after we got to spam amps without spending ammo.

[fierce lark]

it would depend on the weapon but the status chance from 60/60 and reduced support weighting likely beats out the 3rd primed mod

[old marsh]

oh. with the amp efficiency mod? figures

and that one arcane. forgot the name

gives u 100% efficiency or something in total

[velvet pulsar]

Logistics

Eternal Logistics gives 72% max, and the fire rate mod gives 30% efficiency

[old marsh]

ye. that combo

[velvet pulsar]

You can also use astral bond but I won't spend my companion slot on that at all times.

[old marsh]

lol. i actually do have it. and forgot completely

[wary forge]

Virtuos strike is also really good

[velvet pulsar]

Probably because it's a zariman arcane, so by this time either the cascade addicts will have it or the cascade addicts would've made all of those cheap in market

(yes offence)

[wary forge]

100% amp efficiency is just cope

[velvet pulsar]

Yep I use that one.

[velvet pulsar]

I have a lot of fun with it, that's more than enough reason.

[silk ether]

How long would it take me to max every arcane in the game? Through normal means of obtaining plus collections from loid. Im also using all my standing from syndicates to get vosfor caches.

[velvet pulsar]

I keep spamming phahd scaffold in circuit every week

Probably never going to get old.

[velvet pulsar]

Time gated

Because Exodia arcanes.

[silk ether]

Exodias are zaws right? Also residuals and theorems i dont use kitguns or zaws so excluding those?

[timber sparrow]

um whats the amp that shoots like a mist

[timber sparrow]

like i can read this

[velvet pulsar]

Pax arcanes too

[wary forge]

What does this even mean

[timber sparrow]

mist

[wary forge]

Just read what the prism dos

[velvet pulsar]

Probably one of the beams

[wary forge]

Ye that’s what I am thinking

[silk ether]

Lega prism

[velvet pulsar]

From the shooter's angle, the wide beams look like smoke sprinklers.

[silk ether]

Those are zaws/kitguns?

[velvet pulsar]

Kitguns

[silk ether]

Ight

[velvet pulsar]

Probably either Lega prism or klamora prism

[silk ether]

Lega cause its a void flamethrower I assume

[echo jetty]

Whats a good build for Nokko or Lavos?

[timber sparrow]

i realize i actually need to build amps

and my operator

silly i know

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah that one is flamethrower and Klamora is big blowtorch like Furis incarnon.

[timber sparrow]

but what setup here is considered the best

[velvet pulsar]

Archon Continuity on both of them.

[velvet pulsar]

547
Cantic prism + phahd scaffold + certus brace

[echo jetty]

thank you so much.

[velvet pulsar]

I just started explaining with one mod, hopefully other people will help u more than me

[timber sparrow]

that says "precise" whaf if i cant aim

and thrax move around a bit

[velvet pulsar]

Phahd Scaffold is for that problem

[timber sparrow]

hm???

[velvet pulsar]

Bounce + homing + AoE

[wary forge]

They don’t really that much

[velvet pulsar]

U aim anywhere and it'll hit an enemy

[wary forge]

547 is just the easiest to use since it’s a burst fire and u can just spam shot it really easily

147 is good as well it just is harder to hit shots

[velvet pulsar]

I just headshotted captain vorr with 5×× today and it dealt quite impressively

[mighty flare]

do you have the madurai focus unlocked?

[timber sparrow]

i think

oh yea

[mighty flare]

keep to that focus then, its the best focus to use for purely buffing amp damage to kill thrax

and level it up too lol

[wary forge]

Level up contam wave

[timber sparrow]

i only have zenurik almost maxed its just been a side thing for me

[wary forge]

Also get the artifact

[timber sparrow]

i have for the most part only focused on leveling and getting my warframe good

[wary forge]

As u should

Just equip as many madauri lens as u can to get the most

[timber sparrow]

like

[velvet pulsar]

It's like sentencing someone to 1 hr of circuit

[mighty flare]

you dont need this much strength on gyre

[timber sparrow]

is that so

[mighty flare]

yes, her dr augment caps at 215% strength while her 3 & 4 like more range

[velvet pulsar]

215% threshold huh, that's a first to me

Wonder if there are more frames with this threshold

[mighty flare]

have you used it before or looked at the wiki? damage reduction caps at 75% or 215% strength

[velvet pulsar]

Nope, hence why I'm saying never seen a frame with 215% as a threshold

[wary forge]

Just buy it for 175p

[mighty flare]

i run shield-tank gyre like this for example

[velvet pulsar]

With how much lazy I am for my last 2, I might as well for getting atleast either unairu or naramon

(If I see any of them worth it)

[deft iris]

Does Nokko have a dump stat not worth caring about, or does he need a bit of everything? Haven't played in a while and just picked the game back up, forgot I had Nokko so I brought him to Hydron.

[mighty flare]

efficiency

nokko just runs high range & strength

[deft iris]

Honestly that's what I was thinking, because his 2 is an energy buff

But I wanted to ask and make sure. Thanks!

[wary forge]

Saves you a lot of time I got naramon just buy getting the daily stuff from Marie’s shop rotation lol

[velvet pulsar]

Most frames have efficiency as dump stat

[timber sparrow]

so where is ur range

[mighty flare]

stretch + augur reach?

[velvet pulsar]

I didn't farm that much resources to do so

I'm already doing this to max out my madurai

[wary forge]

Naramon is nice if u want to do melees build ofc and it still does fine at cap cause it has the skill where u get 100% amp dmg when ur at 8x combo

[timber sparrow]

small

[velvet pulsar]

Additive?

[mighty flare]

you have less

175-235 is fine for gyre

[timber sparrow]

shrug~2

[mighty flare]

yea thats fine

[wary forge]

Ye it’s additive

[weak jasper]

health conversion on oraxia to hit the arcane persistence threshold without tauforged blue shards/steel fiber. thoughts?

[wary forge]

Cope

[velvet pulsar]

Fluctuating number

[weak jasper]

but can be maintained fairly reliably with her 1, no?

[wary forge]

Just go fiber/shards

[wary forge]

It’s still bad

[weak jasper]

i'm not made out of tauforged shards is the thing

[velvet pulsar]

Like an ECG of an unstable patient.

Gonna go up & down

Both by numbers and gameplay

Coz invisibility trigger will require wall latch to take breaks between dmg while recharging the mod will require casting 1 which will force her to the ground

Your mobility will be demanded for survivability rather than convenience

[wary forge]

Ye

[midnight horizon]

Nothing to do with builds but i love your pfp

[wary forge]

W

https://tenor.com/view/alien-dancing-green-alien-gif-14506853683456728341

[midnight horizon]

Glorp oh my

[wary forge]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-chicken-turkey-alien-alien-cat-gif-3441906945271082344

[agile wagon]

Suspected scam content removed by bot.

[abstract spire]

can someone help i think i have good buld for now but it could be more efficient i think but dont know how, i did try for fun mind control buld but i did learn that nova buff last even if you control enemy so he has super speed and fire rate so much its stupid and with good setup i did make controlled enemy to give from 50k to 500k even 1 mil. radiation damage per shot

[gray quarry]

Mind control over her 3?

Get her 1 augment

[prime scarab]

In practice how much duration and range have you all needed on Grendel?

I REALLY miss the 190 from Overextended but 145 range is...passable to me. Just trying to gauge how other people are playing him with those two stats.

[fierce lark]

you're fine running overextended

[prime scarab]

Unfortunately not because it means I don't hit the str threshold on my speed build so I'll probably end up staying 145 personally, just curious how others are doin it

[fierce lark]

probably by not doing a "speed build" whatever that means lol

[prime scarab]

Just putting as much sprint in as I can while still hitting the important thresholds.

For ball. Its not really a huge deal, just trying to get opinions on duration/range

[fierce lark]

there aren't really any "thresholds" to hit. strength is whatever as long as you have at least ~133% to fully strip with 4, range is pretty self explanatory, duration is whatever feels comfortable, efficiency doesn't matter, energy mod is pretty much mandatory and you end up being able to spend half the build on survivability anyways

[prime scarab]

"have at least 133 str" yeah thats...thats a threshold

And also Armor for persistence.

I'm not really asking for build questions I was pretty specific in what I was asking lmao

[fierce lark]

well yes, thats pretty much the only one. armor you can get entirely from blue shards

[prime scarab]

I'm literally ONLY asking about people's experience with the range and duration stats

I appreciate your additional info tho

"to whatever feels comfortable" doesn't quite answer my question since I am asking directly what people use, so that I can gauge a commonality

If you don't have a number thats totally fine. I'll ask later.

[fierce lark]

if you want a commonality just copy ninjase's build, that's what most people end up doing

which is 190 range 155 dur

the easiest way to find something you want is to play with it yourself though and test different stat setups

[prime scarab]

Yeah, I have also looked at the build. I am asking what other people are using. Listen I get that you think you're helping and I appreciate you trying to do so but you aren't actually giving me any new information here. I'm not asking for what the big builds use.

I am simply asking people who play grendel what they use.

If you don't have a personal experience to share that is fine

You don't need to answer

[fierce lark]

if 145 range is barely passable then add augur reach somewhere, or look for a way to swap it with overextended and see what you can concede for the extra strength

[prime scarab]

Okay, thanks Saryn

[rich glacier]

Glad to discover something new or at least publicly not shared yet. Seek on cyte09 works like an acuity mod. I added it on the wiki

[old marsh]

u can get 190 without Overextended tho. just needs 3 mods lol

[prime scarab]

ooh, 13x is juicy

[prime scarab]

Yeah idk how much better that is but good point lol

Grendel is pretty mod hungry. Two mandatory augs and one uh...REALLY fun one

Catapult is my fave

[old marsh]

How much STR u want anyways?

[prime scarab]

Just that 134 ofc

Trying to squeeze around as much as I can while maxing sprint speed. I'm at 167 rn with all the important numbers hit and its working just trying to reeeeeeally eke out any extra space I can for more speed

[old marsh]

That’s easy tho. 55 from duo Umbral 40 coz Overextended 72 from Bellicose. Viola. 167

Throw in 3 STR shards and u got 212

[prime scarab]

The issue is trying to maintain a decent energy pool while doing it, etc.

https://www.underframe.site/Umbral-Grendel

This is what I'm rockin currently

[old marsh]

Ofc. No one is running BR.

[fierce lark]

you can very easily run blind rage and not run into energy issues

unnerfed nourish is a ludicrous amount of energy

[old marsh]

clearly someone who hasn’t played Grendel for more than 100+ hrs

[prime scarab]

Hm. True. Blind Rage is a decent option since I don't super care about efficiency. Could toss that over umbral intensify and run overextended over stretch?

[barren birch]

What's a good weapon for ad clearing melee-wise (other than xoris)

[fierce lark]

more like 2 hrs xd

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-shame-ringing-bell-walk-of-shame-gif-13316112511080767236

[fierce lark]

enough time to know that he can sustain with brage while puking on everything

that was also before persistence existed so i had to actually pay attention to hp

[prime scarab]

Technically but the problem is if you get stuck to 0 since you cant nourish on an empty stomach

which I still think is BS

[old marsh]

Problem comes when everyone around u is killing faster than Grendel. Enemies dying before your cast finishes even with 2 casting speed shards.

[prime scarab]

Is THAT whats happening??

[fierce lark]

since synth equi is permarun on everyone everywhere for everything, you should never leave a fight with less than 200+ energy

[old marsh]

So your gut stays empty, then u can just do f*** all with nourish lol

[rich glacier]

At least we get 10x viral stacks. I have been missing out a lot on grendel

Never too late

[old marsh]

When he is solo he wipes entire tile sets with ease

[fierce lark]

if you play multiplayer then short-range nukes are just unplayable sometimes lmao

anything you try to target is either sevagoth'd or toridded before you can think about sucking it for regurg

[old marsh]

Yup. So u want neutral/positive efficiency Grendel when playin in Pubs

He was my go to for EDA for quite some time. Before meta changed to Hildryn

[prime scarab]

That explains a ton. Constantly I've been sitting there "I KNOW I ate that guy...I saw him get dusted..."

Either way, I'm super enjoying the meatball. I thought I'd build him and drop him the way I did a bunch of other frames but he's my #1 most played frame these days.

[old marsh]

When playing solo u can do whatever u want. But in Pubs u just have to either stay away from groups or gobble faster than they can kill

[prime scarab]

He is EASILY my favorite in open world content. With the speed build I don't even bother going into archwing.

DE should put sprint speed on orange shards since almost nobody uses them as is

[old marsh]

Blue plz. And yes, Orange needs some use too

[novel bear]

They’re used more than greens

[prime scarab]

Put it on greens then idc

[novel bear]

Good for secondaries at least

[prime scarab]

Actually I've used greens like 2x as often as oranges personally

[barren birch]

if I want an ad cleary sword on melee, what should I use?

[old marsh]

true. I haven’t use greens on anything other than Saryn and Oraxia

[novel bear]

Why though

[prime scarab]

Oraxia, Grendel, I uuuuuh I put it on someone else to give max corro stacks too

I can't remember who

[novel bear]

Max corro stacks are useless now

[old marsh]

Have to double check. Maybe some here or there

[prime scarab]

your face is useless

[novel bear]

At most one green for corro

And even then that’s a stretch

[old marsh]

Tox dmg ofc

[prime scarab]

yeah it was def only one

I guess Qorvex probably uses orange shards, but who else is slotting them?

[novel bear]

Mesa

Yareli
Mirage
Anyone playing secondaries

[prime scarab]

Oh, does it work for her exalted?

[old marsh]

Corr stacks r a thing of the past when armor strip was needed

[prime scarab]

Oh Titania, I ran it on titania

[novel bear]

On titania?

[prime scarab]

Stacking corro through dex pixia

I think

Maybe not?

I took all my shards off and redistro'd them last week

[old marsh]

Isn’t dex pixia better off using Viral heat or Blast with Xata or something like that?

[prime scarab]

Yeah no I was toxin blast, you're right

[novel bear]

Toxin blast and archon cont

[prime scarab]

I can't remember who else it was then but definitely someone lmao

[novel bear]

So you’re still proccing corrosive

[prime scarab]

who tf else did I build recently...

Vauban?

No, his strips with his 3

[old marsh]

4

[novel bear]

Hydroid

[prime scarab]

4

Idk its gone from my brain as anything other than a distant memory

But pretend I had a great point

[old marsh]

Hopefully tomorrow new rework announcement. Praying for Ember

[prime scarab]

Yeah if they let her refresh stacks to the higher dmg amount she is golden

But people are also asking for it to be Equinox and do tap to hold on all her abilities

I kinda hate that tho

[old marsh]

For the sake of platinum expenditure they should more Ember Heirloom sales

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-ember-heirloom-ember-butt-ass-gif-16901578706285173359

[prime scarab]

Yeah, 100%. I'd buy it if she was better. I haven't played her enough to justify it right now.

...did buy Vauban's right away tho

[frozen grail]

Question about gauss as im a bit confused after reading the wiki
So from what ive gathered about his battery when using his 4, any amount over the redline works to give the full benefits from things? Like for example his fire rate/reload speed buffs max out so long as the bar is above the redline? Or does it need to be fully topped off to gain the full benefits?
My other question was about the %, if I read it correctly the % legit means nothing aside from indicating when the battery will "lock" and this % grows at its fastest speed as long as your above the redline, not needing the battery to be fully maxed just above the line?

[old marsh]

Can’t say. All I do with Gauss is zoom zoom spam his thermal sunder then again zoom zoom to next location while keeping his kinetic playing and redline active at all times

https://tenor.com/view/gauss-warframe-prime-speed-run-gif-5262691005362441267

[frozen grail]

Realist shit ive heard all day

[prime scarab]

Xaku rifle animation goes hard on grendel. He like spins his whole head around...

[frigid crater]

I can FINALLY use mesa on star chart deimos!

[barren birch]

what's a good ad cleary sword? preferably spreads heat stacks

[frigid crater]

All this and i still dont know if this is a good mesa build

[frigid crater]

Corufell i guess

TECHNICALLY not a sword tho

[barren birch]

"technically not a sword" pictured is a giant ass sycthe

that's not technically that's an entire dictionary

[prime scarab]

sword is a relative term

[barren birch]

ok ill be more specific: nikana 1 or 2 handed, raiper, heavy blade, dual swords, machete, or sword category in game :(

[digital gate]

Thoughts?

[barren birch]

you could put one of the drifts in that open slot up top

I'd say either speed or cunning since volt, one is just blatent speed one is friction down

[digital gate]

It's locked

[barren birch]

oh im blind

if you unlock it :)

[digital gate]

Don't got the 20p to drop on it. I don't think you can put the slides there though

[barren birch]

you can

[barren birch]

all the drifts can go there

[bitter current]

which is better?

[digital gate]

Haven't tried this yet. But made it just for kicks.

[opal leaf]

I'd go left

[barren birch]

if you invest more forma down the line, augur could be replaced with archon stretch for the passive energy regen

[opal leaf]

I guess all Volt users use Blue shards for energy hahahah

[barren birch]

but yea, add cleary sword with heat, what are my options

[digital gate]

Mine is yellow

[opal leaf]

Energy capacity? Yellow?

Ohbnvm

[vapid relic]

Rate this build for carrying self portrait around
(I have severe lack of range mod, forma, and alternative arcanes)

[digital gate]

Idk I'm not understanding what you mean by shards

My energy is yellow though

[opal leaf]

Archon shards

How the heck do you get 800 energy without flow or primed flow

[barren birch]

he... he has primed flow

[digital gate]

I do have primed flow

[barren birch]

it's the first mod spit :(

[opal leaf]

Fck I just woke up

Yeah yeah inrechecked it 3 times

[barren birch]

no excuse, delete all your primes in shame :)

I joke of course

[opal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-sad-tear-gif-13838119

[barren birch]

you could also answer my question instead

[opal leaf]

Yeah Im sorry I just woke up hahahaha

[opal leaf]

What's the question

[barren birch]

ad cleary heat proccing sword

options are?

I got given a sycthe but as stated that's not a sword :{

[opal leaf]

Wait wait huh???

[brittle sleet]

Not many heat swords in general, let alone ones you'd comfortably clear ads without Influence with

[opal leaf]

I should get my morning choco....

[barren birch]

see this is like, what I was expecting but I was getting the round about ;-;

[brittle sleet]

But that's assuming you want to be efficient and optimize

[barren birch]

doesn't have to be optimal, just decent

like hitting big numbers can stay to the guns and the divine spear

[brittle sleet]

If you wanna optimize the concept of clearing ads with a sword using heat, then probably Nami Solo Incarnon (technically a machete but it's a cutlass) will clear the biggest groups for you

[opal leaf]

Wait enlighten me

What's an Ad? Trash?

[brittle sleet]

If you wanna stack heat as fast as possible with your sword to abuse Divine Spears that would be a whole other concept

So that's an important question too, are we heat priming with the sword (not a great idea), trying to just swipe through crowds, elite killer weapon, other?

[barren birch]

honestly even swinging really fast and cutting through waves one by one would be fine if it can also apply heat to tankier enemies

[brittle sleet]

Yeah Nami Solo is likely what you want then but I'd just look at all of the incarnon swords and try to abuse them with heat instead of elec on normal CRABSWEAT builds

[opal leaf]

Just burn the hate and you can build it

[brittle sleet]

Decide your arcane by other strengths on the weapon and preference, maybe you don't mind putting magnetic in there so Melee Vortex becomes pretty good

[barren birch]

of course nami solo is same week as burston

so 8 weeks for that too :<

[brittle sleet]

Prisma Skana will give you worse pain don't worry

[digital gate]

I kept playing with my builds. This thing can shot an ENTIRE wave in defense with discharge.

[brittle sleet]

That thing dodged me for like half a year

[barren birch]

what else can I do for like, bladed weapons and heat proccing that are sword-esq.

[brittle sleet]

Could honestly just get skins for certain melee weapons like the Dual Ichor too

[barren birch]

oh wait... yea skins exist

[brittle sleet]

And if you're really not seeking to use the best of the best then honestly just use Broken War with heat on it

[opal leaf]

You might want the.... augment for the 4th skill if you are using it

I forgot the name

[digital gate]

It's my most used skill

It wipes out the entire field

[opal leaf]

Yeah you might want the augment on the 4

[opal leaf]

What level of enemies?

[barren birch]

since I forgot about skins, what good heat ad clear weapons in genearl in the melee slot if you don't mind me asking

[digital gate]

50's is the highest I've gone

[opal leaf]

Ah yeah it'll wipe out everything in its sight till lvl 110

[digital gate]

I didn't realize how crazy overpowered that skill is

It infinitely recharges itself

Potentially anyways

[frigid crater]

Furax can help mesa, right?

[opal leaf]

Yeah but I will just give you a heads up, it won't work past lvl 110 enemies

But since your at lower levels, it's a beast

[digital gate]

Luckily he's not a one-trick pony

[prime scarab]

Its definitely one of the better ESO builds too

Its no mirage but

Its pretty good

[hollow scarab]

how can i make this better? (yes ik the riven needs to be rolled still im working on that)

tryna make this hit harder

[barren birch]

OK WHOEVER RECCOMENDED COREFULL YOU EVIL

trying to make me do mirror defense

[opal leaf]

XDDDDD

Took me 3 days to get Corufell

[barren birch]

I guess I should do mirror defense, but spit you didn't answer, and I change my question: good heat melees

[fervent crescent]

unless this weapon has multiplicative condition overload, drop aptitude for something else

[frigid crater]

Any mesa shards recommendations?

[fervent crescent]

parkour velocity is nice if you're running waltz

[barren birch]

im just saying if corefull doesn't knock my warframe onto it's behind, I'ma be sad

a heavy sycthe gunblade should shoot like a missle

[fervent crescent]

otherwise, orange heat shards

[frigid crater]

The " mesa walls surprisingly fast " augment?

[fervent crescent]

yeah

waltz isn't really a necessity though

[frigid crater]

Yeah i dont use it

Spamming 4 is better for shield gating and moving around

[fervent crescent]

otherwise yeah just run five oranges with the heat crit

then slap a heat mod on your regulators

[hollow scarab]

also tryna get a better build for this thing

any suggestions

[frigid crater]

Does it need to be tau Orange shards?

Also, EACH one of them has separated stacks or they stack easier with each one of them together?

[fervent crescent]

it's a stack for each shard iirc

[frigid crater]

what

You're telling me
Mesa can get
250% extra CC
For free

[fervent crescent]

drop serration and chamber for primary acuity

[fervent crescent]

yeah but you gotta ramp up to it

it's per kill on a heat-inflicted enemy

[frigid crater]

Wait Avenger is a better mod for mesa than hot shot?

[frigid crater]

My peacemakers are currently using heat dmg
And i got the operatot mod that gives free heat dmg every operator/ultimate kill

[fervent crescent]

hot shot has a higher ceiling at max stacks

[frigid crater]

But i guess its so rare that no one really recommends it right

[fervent crescent]

hot shot can give up to 75% final crit rate

yes it is not easy to get

it's at least a month of grinding Elite archimedea and vosfor packs

[frigid crater]

Or 500 plat

Which i did
:D

[fervent crescent]

when did you buy it lol

right now it's going for like 400

[frigid crater]

Today

I bought It in warframe market

Couldnt find a buyer that was going for 400pl because no one is actually " online in game "

[fervent crescent]

hot shot went up in value again should I sell

aw frigg

[prime scarab]

Does anyone offhand know if the double jump strength evo on praedos 4th works in grendel ball?

[frigid crater]

Probably lol

But now i just need 3 things for my perfect mesa build

[unborn summit]

hell yeah

[frigid crater]

5 tauforged orange shards
Furax wraith
And the goddamn Afentis

Oh yeah and seccondary outburst

[hollow scarab]

what would you suggest? serration or smth?

[fervent crescent]

galv scope

[terse condor]

Can somebody give me for free Yareli Prime Systems and chassis

[hollow scarab]

noted

still rolling the riven but minigun prime has been good. tryna make it better if i can

[wary forge]

weheres the cc

[rocky mason]

Begging is forbidden here

[terse condor]

Ye

Pl

[weary frigate]

This can work with a frame that can buff cc, the base cc of tenora isn't that impressive.

[wary forge]

its 30% cc once its fully spooled

[weary frigate]

But shtty base damage you need more cc from other sources to save some mod slots for its damage output and fire rate/punch through

[topaz veldt]

is there anyway to make good bruh chorma is my fave warfrmae im tryna figure out ways to play him that arnt just weapons platform

[naive crypt]

seamoth build works but i want to know more about how the nuking works. ive been just spamming 121212121. but that eats energy like crazy and i want to use him for quicker missions like exterm where energy might be more scarce. anyone know how his nuking works more indepth

[stuck igloo]

Does this build still hold?

https://overframe.gg/build/279107/nataruk/one-shot-steel-path-150k-slash-procs-180-crit-chance-2-forma/

[hexed lodge]

in depth you say?

[naive crypt]

what joke am i missing?

[weary frigate]

It's bs

[hexed lodge]

No joke, just that you found the right person lol

what's your question?

[stuck igloo]

But it claims that it can clear most of steel path

[naive crypt]

how does his nuking work. i know there is some sort of spread. should i be letting my guys go around and kill or something? ive never actually understood how his nuking works i just spam 1212121

[hollow scarab]

im on kullervo with gloom over his 4

[naive crypt]

https://overframe.gg/build/279221/nataruk/nataruk-bones-of-the-sentient-electric-heat-gas-variations-updated-2025/

check this out. most of ninjace build tend to be good

[stuck igloo]

Thanks!

[hollow scarab]

while not impressive how do i change it to be at least be more useable for sp

[naive crypt]

you could also switch the bane mods for rifle elementalist if you dont want to deal with bane (should still work good for sp)

[stuck igloo]

Will do that, thanks

[weary frigate]

It has low damage, high fire rate, large ammo pool and mag, with good cc, and status chance.
Your riven gives cd, so you can try adding even more fire rate, hybrid crit and status DoT, preferably heat+viral/corro.

[hollow scarab]

noted. im tryna get minigun prime and this seemed like the best way to get it without using the soma instead

[hexed lodge]

I'll try to dumb it down as much as possible, then you can ask from there.
2 puts a mark, 1 explodes a mark. The extra shadows (i like to call them minishadows) also explode the mark.
When the mark explodes, enemies lose 25% of their current hp, as True dmg, and 25% again as Blast damage to other enemies. The focus of the nuke is to increase the 25% true dmg, to 100%.
This is with Reap's damage vulnerability, his 1st ability, combined with another multiplier, most famously Roar but also Viral works.
2+1 usually kills the first group, and then the extra shadows that spawn can create a chain-reaction in adjacent rooms. Know you need two shadows (either from reap, or the augment) to kill enemies. If you see enemies still having a dark glow, just press 1 on them again. If you see the 2's duration has expired, just recast it.
tldr; gameplay should be more like 2111 2111 2111 than 21212121

[naive crypt]

im use to calibans set and forget with minion just killing crap. is 2111 closer to that. also why 2111 and not 211

[weary frigate]

If you like guns that shoot fast, try trumna/trumna prime with vice acceleration, it deals good damage, has a strong AoE alt fire, and is freaking satisfying to use.

[hollow scarab]

yeah i have it i just dont have a good build for it. i was mainly drawn to the high ammo count and spinning barrel cuz im a titanfall nerd and wanna make the pred cannon and the tenora prime is literally just the pred cannon, altfire and all

[hollow scarab]

so like elementalist u think is a good pick or no?

[weary frigate]

Titanfall 3 should happen
Do you have primary debilitate?

[hexed lodge]

Well, when you press 2+1 on a group, an enemy usually dies to the 25% Blast damage, which usually spawns an extra shadow, which spawn the other two, pressing 2+1 on the first group is more like 2+1 (+1+1+1).
On the chain reaction, remember you need two minishadows to kill the enemies, sometimes they won't fly together, so enemies are marked and debuffed but not kill, so just press 1 again on them.

[hollow scarab]

maybe lemme look

[naive crypt]

if i need to detonate again is there still reason hit the 255 str + roar wall?

[hollow scarab]

i do not. where would one find that

oh wait its an arcane

i do have 9 r0 ones

[hexed lodge]

Yes, that's because of math.
25% x (1 + (2.55 str x 0.3 Roar)) x (1 + (2.55 str x 0.5 Reap debuff)) = 100.18% true dmg.
Also, fun fact, the true dmg occurs after the debuff from 1 gets applied, that's why i'm saying you need two shadows.
"Wouldn't groups need two (1) casts then?" - nope, usually a trash mob dies to the initial blast dmg, that spawns the extra shadow which deals the killing blow.

hopefully i haven't overwhelmed you

[hollow scarab]

what would i have to change for a debilitate build?

[naive crypt]

oh ok. should i wait between 2 + 1 + 1 + 1 or cast as fast as possible? also how long between 2111 cycles

[naive crypt]

no its good. its been pretty helpful

[naive crypt]

i will give up warhammer for titanfall 3.

[weary frigate]

Don't know if it's worth using. Try your current arcane in simulacrum to see if it can proc enough status reliably.
If it does, use elementalist, serration, and consider replacing vital sense with your riven.

[hexed lodge]

ty! don't worry about speed what matters is an enemy getting hit by two shadows, again, from your Reap (1) or the augment Shadow Haze.
This includes the initial group and the chain reaction, but Shadow Haze already deals with the first group on that.
Just reapply (2) when you see its timer run out, or no longer see enemies with its dark glow.

[fierce lark]

debilitate is never worth using, crux is better for status builds and primary primers are just worse than pistols

[naive crypt]

i didnt know enemies have dark glow (i have pretty bad eye sight) but i didnt think 2 had a timer?

[hexed lodge]

the more you know

[hollow scarab]

honestly once ive gotten a few kills under my belt with it it does ok its more getting the first few that are so painful. thats more what im tryna fix

[naive crypt]

oh ok 7ish seconds. once that runs out do the full loop again?

[weary frigate]

This guy just love tenora and is trying to make it sp viable, you can give him some advices

[hexed lodge]

Yup

[fierce lark]

i don’t even know what the tenora is but you can put a standard viral heat with/without crit build on just about any gun and make it sp viable

[naive crypt]

2111 every 7 seconds is 17 energy per second. does sevagoth have a good source of energy regen?

[hollow scarab]

octavia's weapon. the one thats full auto but has a single shot alt fire

[naive crypt]

what is the trigger for the timer to stop or cancel/disappear

[weary frigate]

Octavia's signature, high fire rate, low damage "minigun"

[hexed lodge]

equilibrium should do it, energize if you're struggling, he has no energy regen but if you ever opt to put roar on 3rd instead it can save you even more energy.

[hexed lodge]

No more enemies marked with 2

[naive crypt]

once there are no marked enemies then the loop stops regardless?

[hexed lodge]

pretty much

also, i have plenty of guides on Overframe and starting a yt if interested, that and you can always message this thread.
https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1429852785251455016

gtg sowwy

[naive crypt]

it is very known

@hexed lodge im sorry i just kinda find this funny. important stats, yes

[daring crystal]

I think you gotta grab the help roles to see it : D

[hexed lodge]

Strength is important and range after, not duration
efficiency is more important than duration for Roar nuke.

[hollow scarab]

this the tenora?

[fierce lark]

here's your tenora build, featuring ~35 status procs per second, like a 3rd of which will be heat

[hollow scarab]

nice thanks. ill test this out

[fierce lark]

primed cryo probably works in place of rime if you have it, vile accel over primed shred if you don't have shred, or you can drop shred for rifle elementalist if you have external fire rate

[hollow scarab]

i have both primed cry and primed shred

and kullervo so no external rof

[daring crystal]

I also got a question here , so i use machete wraith for my melee weapon , i realy like the stances , so i got a riven with +cd , +elec , -stat duration , how much the -stat duration will affect a influence build ?

And i never use riven before so , if i upgrade the riven to max does it affect rolling it ? Like , does it cost more kuva or something ?

[hollow scarab]

if i can ask tho, why deadhead over merciless?

[fierce lark]

deadhead is easier maintain and offers more damage for a perk, and the headshot damage from deadhead is multiplicative with all other sources of damage

merciless takes longer to stack and stacks fall off easier

[hoary frost]

which tennokai mod do i run for syam? cit damage, heavy range or overall 120% more damage

[soft pagoda]

Any protea prime builds?

[fierce lark]

it's always discipline's merit

[hollow scarab]

ay would shock or gloom be better on kullervo?

over his 4

[mighty flare]

neither really, what reason are you subsuming for

[hollow scarab]

cuz i dont really get a ton of use out of his 4 cuz its not really like its getting a bunch of kills or anything

unless im doing smth wrong. does it nuke or smth?

[mighty flare]

4 nuke is a tad different, yeah some weapon buff over 4 is fine

roar for influence, nourish for any, etc

[hazy willow]

chat hows my grimoire, honestly idk what i did to it

[gray quarry]

Build for primer, not damage

[hazy willow]

whats primer?

[gray quarry]

Inflicts statuses on your enemies so your weapons hit harder

[gray quarry]

https://overframe.gg/build/569013/grimoire/book-of-oddities-viral-rad-electric-primer-and-energy-regen-orb-gen/

[astral warren]

What the take on using overframe so I can start build crafting?

[gray quarry]

Look for ninjases builds

[chrome badge]

look for ninjases build but only for the research, build it urself or use ninjases as a guide as what stats are priority

[gray quarry]

Use ninjases builds but customize them as you need, like if a build for a frame runs less range than you like, change it to run the range you like

That typa thing

[craggy niche]

how do i loki

is safeguard decoy the only great aug for him?

[mighty flare]

usually just high strength & duration, can dump range & efficiency

safeguard switch & damage decoy are common augs
irradiating disarm used if you kept his 4, needs range

[proper meadow]

could this work on the dex sybaris (still working on the arcane i do have a primary crux but idk if thats any good)

[astral bane]

whats the best melee weapon ingame? no bias whatsoever but its just so good it HAS to be #1?

[rich glacier]

Nami solo

[old charm]

You’re going to have to be more specific for how you play melee

Because otherwise the answer is Exalted Blade

[rich glacier]

But you need to pair it well with warframe like any weapon. Nami solo volt is the best melee in the game.

[old charm]

Stance for that weapon type sucks if you’re playing actual melee gameplay and not occasional quick melee like most people

[astral bane]

i enjoy melee weapons that arent throwable but have range

[old charm]

But how are you actually using it? Just something to drop in the melee slot or actual melee gameplay?

[rich glacier]

Gunblades

[astral bane]

actual melee gameplay

i prefer melee over primary or secondary if im being honest

[old charm]

Then I would look at the kuva ghoulsaw. Its stance is probably the best in the game for both mouse+keyboard and controller

[craggy niche]

hey can you gimme something to run with these polarities on a alternox rn? i have mag this week and alternox is the only useful weapon in eda

[old charm]

For melee only gameplay, the list is fairly large, but kuva ghoulsaw, dual ichor, hate, okina are some notable top tiers

[chrome badge]

Anku incarnon

[old charm]

We’re talking melee only gameplay

[chrome badge]

mhm

Anku incarnon for hybrid meleeing

[old charm]

We’re talking melee only gameplay

[chrome badge]

Anku

[old charm]

Lol, no

[chrome badge]

Incarnon

[old charm]

If you were to go with a scythe, its hard to beat hate and venato prime, especially with its new augmented

[chrome badge]

anku's a melee

[old charm]

The little slide gimmick is about as useful as skana incarnon’s gimmick

Hate incarnon really carries scythe stances with its neutral projectiles

[chrome badge]

on the surface yea but ppl forget it has a high puncture weight for doughty shenanigans and the slide gimmick forces slash but doesn't replace the puncture weighting so high crits and crit dmg + chunky slash

[old charm]

Doughty is very niche, and there’s a lot better options when you’re doing melee only

Melee only means you need to be moving far faster than you team the whole time to be effective

[mighty flare]

replace bane mod & magnetic for viral

[chrome badge]

indeed, im just here to spread antimeta propaganda, i shall retreat... for now. Proceed with your discussion. 🪿

[old charm]

I’m no meta player, considering I’ve played melee only excalibur since the beta 😄

[opal leaf]

Are you a founder too?

[old charm]

Ye

[opal leaf]

Daaaaamn

You have Excal prime?????

[old charm]

Primarily what I play, what I bought to specifically start playing melee only back in the beta with full stamina mods

[opal leaf]

Sheeeeesh

https://tenor.com/view/bellisimo-praise-gif-695394591388673373

[rich glacier]

Yes it is his best. The way you build loki is roar on his 4. Arcane acceleration for 90% fire rate and molt augmented to make his roar stronger over time. You use spectral serration for samage. Remove fire rate mods as arcane gives you most fire rate. You can get a bit more with reinforced bond on companion. Make viral electric. Corrosive projection on aura.

For general gameplay outside ETA/EDA you want to use an incarnon that does heat damage for partial armor strip

[old charm]

Wasn’t some “support the game” nonsense, just wanted to play melee only and the founder pack was the best plat value at the time and excalibur had one of the best base stamina values, I wasn’t going to play normal excal when i already had primed stuff from the void

[opal leaf]

Loki? Roar on his 4?i haven't heard of that

[rich glacier]

Yes because precision intensify

[opal leaf]

I usually just use All durstion mind control Loki

[rich glacier]

You still need survivability so you need a lot of duration

Ai is bad sadly. You kill much faster than the AI allies

[opal leaf]

It's A CC not intended for kill

It's to redirect their focus to an immortal decoy

[rich glacier]

Safeguard switch has half the duration on you. The card shows the duration for teamates

You are going with the decoy augment thing. One time I tried it, it was bad. I could be missing something out but for sure this process is tiring

[opal leaf]

Yeah

Damage Decoy mix with Mind control = Unkillable Priming Decoy

[rich glacier]

Sounds fun. I will try it but you have range issues as you can't do range duration and strength together

[opal leaf]

Don't have too

Focus all in Duration

These 2 in one enemy? Oh yeah

[rich glacier]

I will have a look at it again but for a more relaxed brain playstyle roar on 4 is the way to go

[opal leaf]

You don't need need anything, just Durstion

Just these 2 is enough to make you comfy fr

[rich glacier]

Let me see something. I think the mind co trol target is affected by summoner's wrath. Brb

[opal leaf]

Ooo good luck!

[rich glacier]

Damn it it isn’t

Loki decoy is though

[opal leaf]

Yeah don't even bother hahahah

[rich glacier]

Maybe use him instead

[opal leaf]

I just use Corrosive Projection

Loki is comfy enougj

[rich glacier]

Summoner's wrath is faction damage so whatever build works with it doesn't need roar