builds-discussion

[fierce lark]

im sure crit verglas would still do good dps esp with a riven supporting it

that looks pretty good? im not sure how reload speed affects sentinels

[ember sapphire]

Im not either, it’s prob not much though tbh

Uhm idk this looks insane

[fierce lark]

electric on a riven kinda kills it

unless you're using nourish

actually no it fully kills it

you want to be able to run heat so that you're benefitting from fired up (which im pretty sure combines with mods), and you need to run viral because verglas is innate cold, so you can't do something like corrosive+heat

[ember sapphire]

Okay bet

[fierce lark]

if you don't own fired up then you could theoretically run viral+elec verglas

but fired up is a free +100% heat so i wouldn't run dps sentinel without it

[ember sapphire]

But even so, every time I put a fire mod on it immediately fuses with the toxin making it a gas+cold

[leaden pollen]

what would be a groll for sybaris?

[fierce lark]

you need to add a cold mod to combine with toxin

innates always combine last

[ember sapphire]

Ohh okay, gotchu. So if I put primed cryo on it should be good?

[fierce lark]

yeah im not sure on the pcr vs rime rounds math

[ember sapphire]

I don’t even have rime cuz I haven’t bothered to grind for it.

[fierce lark]

im assuming because there’s already 250% elemental damage from other sources, and it takes weighting away from heat, and there’s no status chance from aptitude, rime might be slightly better on top of being way cheaper

[ember sapphire]

So aptitude is buns for verglas?

[fierce lark]

it's good if you can maintain the stacks with your own rifle

sentinels will benefit from the effects of galvanized mods (the ones that don't require aiming), but they can't stack them

but if you stack them with your own weapon, your sentinel's weapon will inherit the effects

so long as they have the same mod equipped

[ember sapphire]

Ohhh okay gotchu

[fierce lark]

so yeah if you're trying to absolutely minmax you can run galvanized chamber and aptitude on both your sentinel and your own primary and as long as you get 1 kill every 20s your sentinel will benefit from them

[ember sapphire]

Okay Thats good to know. I can build toward that and js switch it out once I get rime

[tired flame]

with verglas prime on my nautilus wich status effects should i try to get ? or should i switch his heapon for a more oriented weapon towards more status effects ?

[prime scarab]

For Archon Continuity is the Corrosive status effect it creates equal to the toxin status effect that triggers it, or is it a weaker kinda base effect version?

As in is it just gonna be a 26 reduction regardless of the damage or will a bigger damage mean a bigger reduction?

[fierce lark]

it's a corrosive status effect

it's the same as if you applied one by shooting it with corrosive on the gun

[prime scarab]

So just the 26 reduction then?

[fierce lark]

26 + 6 per stack or w/e

[prime scarab]

Phooey. Archon Continuity is not so useful on Grendel then.

[bold warren]

Does anyone have any advice on whether to wait until I have more Platinum or to buy the Tome Bundle with the Plat I have?

[fierce lark]

regurgitate strips on its own anyway

[prime scarab]

Yeah, exactly, and 100% at that

[bold warren]

Can anyone tell me?

[prime scarab]

brother you gave it less than 60 seconds

Buying anything you can farm is ultimately going to give you the same suite of answers.

If you think roughly 5-10$ is worth the grind for the tome mods then do it

If you don't think that, then don't do it.

[bold warren]

Oh duh

[prime scarab]

My more direct answer is that grimoire is really strong but not as strong as just playing the game and building other stuff too

[bold warren]

What makes Grimoire so strong?

[prime scarab]

It is good stats wise but also has some unique effects you cant get elsewhere

Energy regen, armor strip on kill, etc.

Its a really versatile weapon that lets you play a lot of unique stuff, its just not really #1 or mandatory or anything

So its not a stress if you don't get the mods right away and just farm them later

The alt fire is kinda cool too

[wraith sinew]

Or get tome mods for Dante

[prime scarab]

That too

I don't really care for the old mans gameplay so I always forget about noctua

[marble marten]

I'm going to add Kullervo's ability to one of my Loki builds. Should I focus on high critical chance on my Okina Incarnon? Or more on critical damage?

[dusky bane]

why CC when wrathful gives you that

[marble marten]

Does Kullervo's ability make 100% of your hits critical? Or is it not that exaggerated?

[dusky bane]

sets your cc to 100%, scaling with strength

[violet silo]

kullervo gives flat critical chance. at high strength that’s usually around 400

meaning guaranteed red! crits

[near vortex]

200% for Kullervo

[dusky bane]

the CC will equal your strength

[near vortex]

Helminth wrathful is nerfed

[dusky bane]

well they're not using kullervo, are they?

[near vortex]

Oh
Didn't scroll up to see

Or rather I read their message and saw Kullervo so I assume that was the frame

[marble marten]

It will be more useful for my Okina than Roar, that's why I've been farming Kullervo

What a nightmare

[near vortex]

Both Wrathful and Roar would be good for Okina

Roar triple dips Influence procs and Wrathful is straight up crit chance with a side of mobility

[dusky bane]

kullervo is like one of the easiest farms in recent years

[marble marten]

It's really annoying because the randoms don't know how to do absolutely anything in Duviri, plus I hate Duviri.

[dusky bane]

lowk solo

[near vortex]

Kullervo farm isn't hard, just takes a bit

Gathering mats was a bit annoying but other than the uuymag or whatever it was called it wasn't half bad

[marble marten]

It didn't take me more than a day, but I got very bored.

[dusky bane]

it's like 7 runs, 15 mins each

one of the faster farms, especially cause he's guaranteed

[marble marten]

40min+ with randoms 😭😭

I found this Okina+Kullavo build on YouTube, but the high critical chance seemed strange to me, or maybe it's not that high?

[dusky bane]

that's not a build for kullervo

[violet silo]

it’s easy but annoying

[dusky bane]

and it's not a great build either

[violet silo]

looks fine to me

[marble marten]

Okina

But the guy used it with Kullervo

[dusky bane]

organ shatter kinda whatever and doublestacked base damage

[dusky bane]

ye, that part's dumb cause why slot BR when you have 200+% CC

[violet silo]

organ shatter is only whatever if you’re running purple shards

[dusky bane]

it's whatever cause why doublestack CD

when you could use reach and faction mod

[violet silo]

i’m not gonna run faction mods

[dusky bane]

Cool

[marble marten]

So give me a super build for the Okina 😭, Loki+Kullervo remember

[mighty flare]

Replace organ shatter and primed pressure point for reach and attack speed
Then it’s ok

[dusky bane]

Swap blood rush for one of the QoL/flex mods

[marble marten]

Why do you want me to remove the only thing that gives me critical damage?

[mighty flare]

Galv Steel

[stone canopy]

I've got a vauban nuking build with max range and high strength, but idk if I should keep flow and arcane energize or swap then both

[marble marten]

Do they not stack?

[dusky bane]

They do, but why

[mighty flare]

they do

[marble marten]

And won't it do any more dmg?

[dusky bane]

A faction mod will almost quadruple your damage

Reach will increase your kills per minute more than a smidge of CD

And attack speed is usually better

[violet silo]

actually, attack speed is a good idea. also increases how often you proc influence.

I think that’s what I run, but I don’t often use okina on kull

[violet silo]

they stack additively with each other and the purple shards you should be putting on kullervo.

eventually, it just stops being as useful

[bold warren]

How does one mod the Grimoire?

[hidden quartz]

ik this insanely overkill but im curious are you able to fill all 10 mod slots with omi formas? in one frame?

[wary forge]

Yes

[marble marten]

I won't use Kullervo, I'll use Loki with his ability

[hidden quartz]

thats funny lmao next level min maxing

[cerulean hinge]

anyone got a hydroid build?

[hidden quartz]

ik the stars mean the forma count but whats that number under it mean?

[viscid salmon]

If you subsume thermal sunder to Lavos, does imbuing an element combine it with thermal sunder, or add a separate instance of the imbued element

[wary forge]

Archon shards

[hidden quartz]

hmm ok

[bold warren]

I CANT DECIDE

[prime scarab]

I know people who've subsumed a 10 omni voruna when her prime came out just to 10 omni her prime again

When you have a main and time to build up resources you might as well

My Follie is at 6 omni rn

[digital gate]

I kinda forgot how OP Titania is.

[bold warren]

How does one build the Velox?

[violet silo]

same thing

melee build means purple shards

[bold warren]

Velox Prime

How do I build

[twilit crest]

You go on overframe

[bold warren]

No

[twilit crest]

Someone else is just gonna do that for you

You should build a real gun like dual tox inc or furis inc no bap

[opal leaf]

He doesn't have those yet

[versed harbor]

name checks out

[opal leaf]

Hey DrWhynot

[magic lotus]

Oh hell naw. Lmao

[opal leaf]

XD

Overframe is not that good, unless looking for Reference builds

[twilit crest]

It is for a trash weapon like that

[random oyster]

what archon shards are good on follie?

[mighty flare]

Lots: #1487164102379049051 message

[tepid scaffold]

Casting speed

Barrel spam + teleport + roar

[hoary oak]

Does Balefire benefit from the fire rate provided by furax body count?

[fresh hollow]

good night, im in steel path and i wanted a primary crit weapon to kill bosses since they have status limit cap, any recomendation? some people said burston but i believe its only trully strong with its incarnon ive been using phantasma

[opal leaf]

Yes Burston, Dual Toxo, Furis Incarnon, Laetum

Those are the ones that circulates (not as much as Furis) in this build for boss killers

[fresh hollow]

most boss killers are secondaries? ive been only using them as primers

recently got kompressa

[opal leaf]

Well there is an argument that the Secondaries are more powerful than Primaries. Though I don't really believe but they have their own strengths

So that's my take on it

[mighty flare]

Yes

[hidden quartz]

are omni formas ever worth crafting? I feel like 4 formas would have better use then a omni forma

got it from a arbitration mission

[hoary oak]

Useful for when you want to make different builds for a warframe/weapon

Since different mods have different polarities

[gray quarry]

Not worth crafting unless you have a huge surplus of forma

[hidden quartz]

so omni formas are sometimes good for frames/weapons you heavily experimenting builds on

[hoary oak]

It's good for when you are trying out different build/ or are using different mods with high capacities for a specific build

[timber sparrow]

oh my godddd bruhhh i wanted gladiator might but i joined at TERRIBLE TIMING the cetus bounties were 1 minute away from refresh and i also DIDNT GET IT

[graceful pollen]

anyone have a good level cap burston prime incarnon build

[pliant kite]

Has anyone ever managed to make a build with secondary shiver?

[wintry yoke]

Finally I reached end game for mesa I max alll her damage cap 🔥

[near vortex]

You can use it to give archguns multiCO

[near vortex]

A lot of the secondary weapons are overall stronger iirc

[twilit crest]

Cap

[near vortex]

Things like Dtox and Furis are almost unmatched in what they do, especially because secondaries have so many more tools like Fortifier, Flare, Enervate or Outburst that primaries don't

There's a lot of FANTASTIC primaries as well, don't get me wrong, but most of the strongest weapons in the game do happen to be secondaries

[opal leaf]

Yeah that's true

[opal leaf]

Yeah it's for some reason Secondaries just be built different

Furis the DPS monster
DToxo&Laetum the boss killer

Like........ Tf???

[weary frigate]

The thing is, there're way more secondary mods/arcanes/shards that directly boost up your damage (damage, cc, cd,...) and by a huge ratio compared to what we have in primaries.
So technically, you can invest way more into a secondary than what you can do with primary

Shotgun is another story

[opal leaf]

Which is true too hahahah in a way that I can agree but not completely to open my opinion to others

And they are HEAVILY powerful tbj

Shotguns are different beasts too, I only know 3 shotguns that are very powerful (1 of them is niche)

[weary frigate]

Yep, they are good, but if you take a look at shotgun's mods, they are somehow very underwhelming compared to others, i still don't know why they made it like that tbh

[opal leaf]

Hahahaha the 3 or 4 shotguns I know:

Cedo
Tenet Arca Plasmor
Coda Bassocyst
Sobek (niche as it's used with a specific frame)

They are powerful... But the mods they have... Just brings them 3rd place bahahahahah

[brittle mist]

You prob got responses by now. But for me, drop r guard to put energy transfer on it, circumvent and nightform is defensive enough as is

[timber sparrow]

okay chat i want to make my broken war good so do i just do crab sweat yk the meta or ???

[opal leaf]

Yeah crabsweat

Before it's a focused Crit sword

Now just use a Crabsweat hahahaha

[timber sparrow]

i wouldnt drop rolling guard

maybe i have a skill issue but i have circumvent and rolling guard and i still die lol

[silk sphinx]

@bold warren here’s my protea build. 3 forma 2 yellow shards on cast speed, 1 topaz on the secondary CC on heat proc kill, and two red shards for strength. Arcanes are Molt Augmented and Arcane Concentration.

[timber sparrow]

AND brief respire

[bold warren]

I don’t have Archon Shards YET

[timber sparrow]

but here's my equinox if you wanna compare

drop fleeting?

[brittle mist]

I havent needed rolling guard on mine in years by now 🤷‍♂️, just knowing what form i need right now is enough and a working gun

[crimson juniper]

So I am new to building my own frames: recently was highly pleased with my ash 4 numbers on base hitting for 900k, then I started looking…. How the hell do people go into the 100m dmg 😆 😆 😆

[real coral]

sell your soul

[stoic olive]

would a 264 or 246 amp be better for level capping?

[violet silo]

critical hits.

and 12 layers of damage

[opal leaf]

Damn 2.1

[prime scarab]

-2.1*

Its an integer overflow

[opal leaf]

Damn which is higher

[charred gale]

negative

[prime scarab]

The negative essentially means the calculator can't go any higher so it loops back around.

[opal leaf]

Wait

OK this is where I am confused

[charred gale]

if you know how binary numbers work it makes sense

[prime scarab]

Imagine a line from -100 to 0 to 100. You get 101 damage. It can't go to 101 so it goes to 100 and then past it by 1

So the past by 1 becomes -100 since thats the next available number

[opal leaf]

I mean I can count binary but not in that sense

[prime scarab]

Its just an integer overflow

[opal leaf]

Damn so let's sa in a sense.. Ur dealing quadrillions here in a sense hahah

[prime scarab]

Anything over 2.147 billions not meaningfully tracked

There are ways to get it but nobody super cares

[stoic olive]

it does do the actual damage but it displays the -2.1b

[prime scarab]

Anyway I can't get Torid to do anything fun

[opal leaf]

Or alright damn...

The highest number I've gotten is 1.5 billion hahahah but that's it

[prime scarab]

Is there a decent single target torid build anyone can toss me?

[prime scarab]

you're close!

[opal leaf]

I have an idea for it to be fun!

Don't use Incarnon, this is an Incarnoff torid build

[prime scarab]

nah i like laser beam

[stoic olive]

unfortunately, the torid is mostly an add clear, not a single target weapon so it may not meet your single target expectations

[opal leaf]

Yeah I know right! And it's very cool to do it, but I cannot seem to do it again hahaha

[stoic olive]

i think he means for beefy targets leave incarnon, kill it to get your charge back up and youre in incarnon again

[prime scarab]

Phooey. I need to pick a good single target rifle for acolytes then. I gotta be able to equip Amalgam Serration for zoomies in Grendel 3.

[stoic olive]

stahlta is good for big damage, as is the kuva chakkhurr

if you want to use the torid, you could equip a single target secondary like the lex incarnon

[prime scarab]

I have Laetum on there and it crushes but I wanna have options lmao

I just need it to be a rifle to equip serration

[stoic olive]

yeah the chakkhurr and stahlta are both very good for one shotting things

[prime scarab]

I don't think I wanna go through the hassle of a lich rn so Stahlta it is.

How about Burston? I've that cooking in the foundry prime, right now.

[weary frigate]

it's red, shoots fast, and deals tons of damage

[stoic olive]

ive seen a burston prime melt an acolyte like it was nothing

[prime scarab]

Yeah, I'll give that a shot. I'm also eyeing Phenmor.

[weary frigate]

Phenmor is nice, but now there're some cc buffs that could ruin its damage randomly if you play in pubs

[prime scarab]

Yeah, thats true. My Laetum I ended up getting a riven with -55 so it has a 0 crit chance but a buff can mess it up. Even with a buff though I'm still averaging a huge amount of damage because I've got it stacked for fire rate and multishot

I imagine I could do something similar for Phenmor. I'd need a -50% crit Riven

Very nicely the rivens reduce crit based on the base chance, not the reduced chance from the evolution

[weary frigate]

I didn't know this, thanks for the info

[prime scarab]

Yeah! So you only need -55% on the Laetum to reduce it by 12%, and then the 10% from the evo reduces it to 0.

For Phenmor's base 20 it would only need 50%

im so fast

Okina and Innodem both give me a 10% higher sprint speed boost than Praedos...

[crimson juniper]

Which frames have the best multiplicative damage buffs or armor strip built into their kits? I'm trying to figure out which frames scale naturally into the millions without needing a full set of Tauforged shards and Rank 5 Arcanes just to function.

[prime scarab]

Follie lol

[rocky mason]

Modless nokko gets to the millions without either of those

[prime scarab]

Follie's hilarious ease of use in all levels of play aside.

Grendel needs arcane persistence but otherwise functions pretty plainly without shards.

Vauban needs a cast speed to be comfy but otherwise is simple and easy.

Nokko with no shards crushes because of inherent crit on his 4.

Titania

[raven geyser]

What is the best build for wukong prime

[rocky mason]

Titania

[prime scarab]

BEAT YOU TO IT

[rocky mason]

Triple umbral and as much duration as you can

[rocky mason]

I was just repeating

[raven geyser]

Should I buy any prime mod

[crimson juniper]

Thanks folks. I’m currently trying to wrap my head around the build math, feeling like I’m making overly complicated

[rocky mason]

Continuity is good but you don't have to buy it, just wait until baro brings it again

[prime scarab]

Octavia is probably pretty decent without arcanes too

[rocky mason]

Just find what you like and then look up on how to make them stronger

Every frame is viable

[crimson juniper]

I get that. I do. And I appreciate what you are saying. I’m just trying to be the one that makes the guides………. Eventually 🙂

[prime scarab]

Ninjase usually does a decent job breaking down the why of his guides if you want to see it in action.

[raven geyser]

I feel like I don’t have much damage and my is weapon is arca titron

[crimson juniper]

That’s what I need, a breakdown of what’s happening. And why

[rocky mason]

Show your arca titron build then, let's see

[prime scarab]

The wiki is probably your best place to start. The actual math is all there.

[crimson juniper]

Really! Sweet, I’m already well versed on using the wiki

[prime scarab]

Yeah every ability page has the damage formula on it and an example calculation to look at

[crimson juniper]

WOW

[prime scarab]

Anyway back to milking the most speed possible out of my Grendel so I can never use an archwing again

[crimson juniper]

Get it!

[rocky mason]

Wait how

[prime scarab]

Oh man dude I was joking I already dont need the archwing on grendel lmao

I currently have a 1.66 sprint speed and his 3 uses it and gets crazy bounce speed

Catapult from there

[rocky mason]

Wait, on open worlds, I got it now

[raven geyser]

Wait

[prime scarab]

holy shit can you image archwing missions and a grendel ball just zooms past though

[rocky mason]

Would be funny

[prime scarab]

just doppler effect aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhh

Anyway to topic at hand:

Innodem and Okina Prime. Are either of them going to be useful as anything other than a stat stick on Grendel?

Even if its just to kill 200s for 1999 bounties.

[rocky mason]

Probably not

Okina prime is good

Especially with melee careen

But grendel doesn't use the roll button

-# despite rolling around a lot

[prime scarab]

Well, thats fine. I think I'd really only use it in the circumstance described above

I find myself unable to meaningfully do those 1999 kill 100 techrot with melee missions, for example

I could use a whole different frame for it but

I guess I am fundamentally immortal so it doesn't matter what melee weapon I use

I'll get the kills eventually

[raven geyser]

Crushing ruin,seismic wave,sacrificial steel,shocking touch，gladiantor might，organ shatter，corrupt charge，sacrificial pressure，reflex coil，Arcane: melee influence

[rocky mason]

A screenshot would be easier lol

Especially to see the levels of the mods too and your polarities and space because I don't have it memorized

[raven geyser]

It’s in another language

[rocky mason]

It's fine

We know the mods by the image

[raven geyser]

Right

[rocky mason]

Unless it's a riven it will always be the same

[rocky mason]

As expected you don't have the two sacrificial mods maxed out

Swap reflex coil with galvanized reflex

And corrupted charge with blood rush

And that should be a big enough difference

Oh wait, organ shatter with weeping wounds too

[raven geyser]

What are they look like (

[rocky mason]

I'll get on the wiki

[raven geyser]

K

[rocky mason]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Galvanized_Reflex

[raven geyser]

Don’t think I have it

[rocky mason]

You need to do arbitrations to get enough vitus essence and buy it from the arbitration shop on a relay

It's the most important thing on your build probably

Since the idea is jumping and heavy slamming constantly

[rocky mason]

Galvanized reflex gives a 5x combo at max rank, which makes these mods turn into 200% buffs

[raven geyser]

wow, I have none of that

[rocky mason]

Time to farm!

[raven geyser]

Man, I hate this

Maybe buy one?

[rocky mason]

The rank 0 version of them is not that expensive but I'd say it's still worth it to farm them the normal way

[rocky mason]

Do you have any reason to want them immediately?

[raven geyser]

Okay, I’m poor anyway

[rocky mason]

Farming each piece, leveling the mods, gradually getting stronger feels better than just buying it anyway

[raven geyser]

I guess to gain damage so I can do some request

[raven geyser]

Right, don’t have time is the problem

[rocky mason]

Yeah that is a problem

But you don't need to get all of them at once

Take one day to farm each, even if you have one hour a day it should work

[raven geyser]

I have like 400hours for this game and still trash

[rocky mason]

Now you know the way forward

[raven geyser]

How you get all these mods again

[prime scarab]

The galv one will be your most straightofrward

Just do arbitrations

And buy from the vendor

[rocky mason]

Arbitrations for galvanized and deimos open world bounties for the others

[raven geyser]

But I will die instantly 💀

[rocky mason]

That's why you have the rest of your team

Also wukong has 5 lives so you should be fine for a while at least

[novel bear]

160

[raven geyser]

Already wanna kill my self

[rocky mason]

I thought it was 40x5

I guess 1x doesn't count

[novel bear]

It does not

[rocky mason]

We learn something new everyday

[novel bear]

Also blood rush on a heavy build that only reaches 5x combo is awful

Do not do that

[rocky mason]

Works for me

[novel bear]

And there are much better options

[rocky mason]

Probably cheaper to max out too for them

So share it

[raven geyser]

But I kinda wanna grind some Warframes too

I’m only missing a few parts

[remote forum]

Anybody able to give me some recs on how to build Baruuk? Just got his prime!

[hazy willow]

chat, is this good nataruk build?

[velvet pulsar]

DEcent

[novel bear]

Arca triton is electric afflictions slam
So primed/sacrificial pressure, galv/sacrifical steel, galv elementalist, galv reflex, seismic wave, shocking touch, a smite, and then focus radon/voltaic strike/gladiator might

[velvet pulsar]

Can be improved a lot

[novel bear]

Needs galv aptitude

Over crit delay or galv scope

[hazy willow]

okeh

[tepid shell]

What should i subsume on volt's 1st ability?

[novel bear]

The best arcane is longbow sharpshot, but if you don’t have it merciless is fine

If you’re running merciless you might consider taking off serration

[raven geyser]

Melee influence?

[mighty flare]

hows you using volt, theres generic options like nourish

[novel bear]

For nataruk

[velvet pulsar]

Molt or infested mobility for more speed
Otherwise based on build

[raven geyser]

Nvm

[novel bear]

I’d also run blast or elec instead of viral

Bows are awful at self priming, they want to kill in one hit

They’re the primary equivalent of heavy spam

[hazy willow]

ayt ayt thanks

so uhhhh in summary, what mods do i replace?

[novel bear]

Replace malignant force with a heat mod
And one of serration, galv scope, or crit delay with galv aptitude

[tepid shell]

Just speeding around,in SP i mostly focus on speeding up my melee for melee exposure,since my primary is soma,and deadhead takes a while to charge up

[mighty flare]

Infested Mobility is a good speeding around option then

[tepid shell]

Will look into it,thanks

[wary forge]

why u woulds go afflictions

over influence

[novel bear]

Is influence working well on slam builds now? Last time I tried it using lavos it was underperforming for some reason

[wary forge]

in general it doesnt just titron force procs eletric

on slam

[novel bear]

So does lavos

[twilit crest]

Except lavos isn’t built like titron

[velvet pulsar]

Warcry as well in this scenario

[shell tundra]

Is enervate good on Mesa’s exalted?

[mighty flare]

like third pick option

[novel bear]

Enervate is better on weapons with low crit chance

Mesa is not low crit chance

[velvet pulsar]

Was it because slam builds one-shot enemies so influence doesn't proc on one-shot?

[novel bear]

Idk what was going on, don’t remember

[velvet pulsar]

Because I think this rule doesn't apply if the one-shot had a forced electric proc.

[novel bear]

I was using lavos and sampotes and afflictions was doing much better

That’s all I remember

[mighty flare]

not really no, not worth using unless you dont have ANY crit support like shards/avenger/hot shot/etc

[velvet pulsar]

Sampotes procs afflictions several times so checks out

[novel bear]

Should also force proc electric a lot though

With lavos

[velvet pulsar]

Even then I don't think influence will outperform afflictions in case of sampotes

That's one of the rare melees where I'll prefer afflictions over influence

[shell tundra]

I mean, I have enough τ reds to get her to a decent crit chance, but I don’t know what to put for armor strip given that my helminth is nourish so I can’t really use Hot Shot : /

[novel bear]

Why can you not use hot shot?

Mesa can easily run corro heat

[velvet pulsar]

Hot Shot can proc from manifold bond as well

[hazy willow]

chat hows my hate?

[shell tundra]

Yeah but idk how to pump my status high enough to warrant stripping via corrosive + heat : /

[novel bear]

Mesa has pretty high status because of her very high base fire rate

[dense olive]

I have a quick question about warframe and companion modding. Does mod order matter at all? I believe mod order really only matters on weapons with status mods, right? I just want to clarify

[novel bear]

It matters for precepts

[velvet pulsar]

It matters

[novel bear]

They’re assigned priority based on where they are

So higher precepts are used more often

[velvet pulsar]

Top left corner to right
Bottom left to right

[novel bear]

Same as elements

[twilit crest]

Wait that’s tuff forgot about tht

[dense olive]

I see, will it still use all precepts still? Like how much does it TRULY matter?

And for warframes I assume it doesn’t matter much at all

[twilit crest]

Spare parts buff plz

[novel bear]

It matters a lot
High precepts are used far more often than low precepts

[velvet pulsar]

For warframes it doesn't matter, but in case of precepts, if u used something like assault mode before other precepts, then the others will almost NEVER proc.

[dense olive]

Okay good to know

Last question Does it matter with anything besides precept mods

[novel bear]

No

[velvet pulsar]

Just be clear regarding what is a precept mod

As in, remember which ones affect performance

Like Spare Parts is naramon polarity but it counts as a precept mod.

It's not just limited to penjaga.

The wiki page for manifold bond can list some.

[scarlet forum]

does sevagoth need stretch

or should i do more duration

[novel bear]

Are you doing a nuke build?

[scarlet forum]

yes

wondering if i should take off agur stretch and put a archon continuity

[karmic badger]

Ehh, neutral duration is fine, even negative works

[novel bear]

Needs range more than duration for nuke build

[karmic badger]

Iirc his reap shadows can outrun his sow if they have too much duration

That and they don't have the best AI, they get stuck if they live too long

[near vortex]

I know a person who runs minimum duration Sevagoth on a Void Cascade config

[gray quarry]

I can see why, lower duration means more time to be casting abilities, means more nukage

[opal leaf]

But more energy

[gray quarry]

I was pointing out maybe a potential good part about low dura seva

[opal leaf]

Oh

[acoustic bluff]

Are they a demon

[near vortex]

They're pretty demonic

They have a wide variety of builds posted on Overframe with reasoning behind all of them

Min duration build is Tempest Barrage over 3 and the other cascade build they have has Silence with augment

Shadow groups and ragdolls which synergizes with Savage Silence plus melee finisher weapon like Innodem

[quiet laurel]

Yeah thats a burger demon

[scarlet forum]

I'm running zenerik dethcube and a purple shard

I don't run out of energy

[opal leaf]

Good

[scarlet forum]

Energy is limitless

[thorn spindle]

Does anyone have a build for Nova Prime that's kind of helpful for playing melee?

[ruby crypt]

If I were to put energized munitions on gauss, which ability shld i sacrifice?

[rocky mason]

3 probably if you're not using the augment

[ruby crypt]

if i am, then 2?

this is the build

[rocky mason]

Yeah you need the 1 to build the meter easily so

Just find a way to survive without the 2 and you're fine

[ruby crypt]

isnt there some immortality bug with aegis and fast deflection?

[rocky mason]

Not bug

But I thought you needed vigilante vigor in there for it to get to 0

[mighty flare]

not on gauss

[rocky mason]

I would swap augur message for it just in case

[ruby crypt]

like this?

toxin will still be a pain tho

[mighty flare]

dont need vigil on gauss, drop it

[ruby crypt]

oh, then the one above this

shld I use energized munitions or xata's whisper?

[mighty flare]

xatas usually better

[ruby crypt]

alr

[rocky mason]

I thought you did, will keep that in mind

[rocky mason]

Xata's interacts with the blast you get from thermal transfer

But you can have several loadouts so both are fine even

Some weapons are more funny with energized munitions

[ruby crypt]

u got any builds for the burston prime incarnon

like I do decent damage but charging the battery takes forever

[rocky mason]

Incarnons don't benefit from energized munitions

[rocky mason]

You can use the alt fire to activate even when not fully charged

[ruby crypt]

yeah but charging the battery shld be easier with more ammo efficiency

[rocky mason]

If you really need it

[rocky mason]

Not by much, your aim is the thing that matters the most there

[ruby crypt]

true, but with gauss needing to move around its kinda difficult

[rocky mason]

Remember his trailer

Move fast, stop, shoot, move

Don't shoot while moving

Especially not with a headshot incarnon

[rocky mason]

One incarnon you can use energized munitions with and have almost 100% ammo efficiency is the boltor

You need the incarnon evolution but to not be on the incarnon mode

[midnight crown]

guys, would i still be able to use antique mods without using the focus school of the tauron strike that i have?

[rocky mason]

No

The mods go on the tektolyst artifact so they're only there when you have them unlocked

Which really sucks tbh

[midnight crown]

oh okay

[covert talon]

need a build for gauss prime yoo

[red moat]

Mod for duration. And depending if you want to go caster or gun platform go with range+efficiency or strength respectively. And add some shield recharge methods too that's his main way of surviving

[void canopy]

does status duration affect the sporothrix?

[dense olive]

Which one do you guys think is better? The first one doesn’t one tap with sow+reap but has much better efficiency, the second one one taps but has crappy efficiency especially with roar

I have 4 tau strength shards and a tau casting speed shard if that’s important

[hazy willow]

yea it got weaker

[autumn citrus]

if this is my Kuva Sobek build, where should i put acid shells for use with my oraxia?

[tawdry trail]

either Galv. Hell or Clip delegation I think

both give multishot so you don't really need both

[twilit spindle]

Can anyone share their panzer build and claw build I am planning to pair it up with saryn prime

[naive zinc]

Is Kronen riven worth the rerolls? If so, what stats should I look for?

[old charm]

If you like it, sure, but if you’re talking if its economical to roll kronen rivens, the answer’s no

[naive zinc]

I see, thanks

[karmic badger]

if you're going for oraxia, then you want only pure toxin, so drop charge shell and chilling grasp for more toxin and acid shells

[deft shuttle]

whats the best magister slam build

[wary forge]

Take out the Crit mods also u need to mod toxin if you’re playing Oraxia

[dusky bane]

probably over toxic barrage while swapping magnetic to viral

[dusky bane]

what?

I'd just use the same build saryn uses tbh

[green gyro]

well yeah but it's probably copeable for now

the dispo is quite low

it's objectively a harmful and bad negative tho

[green gyro]

it's a shotgun, you would never slot over ms...

[tawdry trail]

ok

you can afford to get rid of one though

galv hell gives like 230% multishot at max and clip delegation gives 225% multishot and 225% status

doubling up on multishot isn't necessary, especially when it's to make room for acid shells

[charred gale]

try the forums

[inland saddle]

For voruna prey of dynar is the only augment to take right?

[old marsh]

Sobek with 3 augments, meanwhile other weapons starving for even one

[old marsh]

u need both

[short rock]

I can’t use the forums, I don’t know how to post there.

Can someone help me or post it for me?

Thanks 🙏

[old marsh]

well. Need is a strong word. but u kinda want both

[dusky bane]

3?

[old marsh]

yup. think its the only one with 3

[dusky bane]

what's the third

[old marsh]

Pablo or someone at DE loves Sobek

[dusky bane]

it's the better one of the 2

[old marsh]

a bit too much lol

[tawdry trail]

there's a faction one from steel meridian

[dusky bane]

oh, that barely counts

[old marsh]

doesnt change the fact that it exists

also helpful reminder if u dont already have it, get the Obex augment. when its Incarnon comes for Prisma Obex, WFM price will rise

[quiet laurel]

trust me they dont care

they needed 5 thousand business days to fix resupply on clients

[velvet pulsar]

I highly doubt that obex augment will be used well by the incarnon

[old marsh]

imo its actually pretty sweet. not like Gorgon aug.

[velvet pulsar]

Just a lesser version of Clip Delegation

[simple frost]

How do i build gram

[unborn summit]

Building my fourth Warframe this week

[abstract saffron]

grats. eventually youll get to the point where you have 40+ items cooking in the oven just waiting for affinity booster from calendar and a relay blessing. max out weapons/frames/companions in 3 minutes

[brittle sleet]

Building? In my #builds-discussion? It's likelier than you think

[prime scarab]

I need more sprint speed. Someone tell DE to give us more amalgam mods so I can make my pistol buff it too.

[naive hinge]

whats best animal for priming ? panzer or diriga

[dusky bane]

Diriga isn't an animal
But imo diriga and hounds > panzer

[naive hinge]

what if i put nautilis with the mod that puts all emlemnts + why is diriga better

[coral crest]

Technically...

"On the border of charted space, an enclave of small, strange, seemingly intelligent creatures was discovered by Tenno explorers. They are mechanical entities, almost organic in appearance, with a precarious resemblance to the fearsome Sentients that had decimated human civilization. However, these creatures showed no signs of aggression, and they immediately began carrying out helpful tasks in peculiar alliance with the Tenno.”

[prime scarab]

I'm trying to maximize my speed on Grendel while still hitting the big stuff.

I've got mods for him all figured out, amalgam serration on his rifle, and sprint speed from an incarnon melee.

Are there any other sources of movement/sprint I can dig out? Something I can put on a companion, maybe?

If the people at DE would let me put sprint speed on shards I'd be a happy man

[dusky bane]

if you want nautilus, you can rock the tazicor weapon to prime

[naive hinge]

what ? i meant i have nautilis prime

[dusky bane]

ok, equip tazicor on it if you want a primer

[naive hinge]

i dont have 🙂

[dusky bane]

get one

it's really good

[naive hinge]

how ? @dusky bane

[dusky bane]

fortuna I think
from legs

[wary forge]

burst laser is fine tbh

just mod for whatever elements u want with fire rate

and can also do tenacious bond

or just normal laser

[gray quarry]

By farming the resources

[prime scarab]

Pretty sure he means what mods to use

on account of this being the builds channel

[gray quarry]

[pliant kite]

I want to get another tenet weapon for my honoria, what's a good single target DPS tenet weapon?

[gray quarry]

What ones do you have

[pliant kite]

I have arca plasmor, Glaxion, Plinx, Arca Triton, and Ferrox

[gray quarry]

Quanta is solid

[lime phoenix]

cycron is also nice

[simple frost]

Build like

Mods etc

Gram prime

[gray quarry]

Ik

[pliant kite]

What does the cycron do again? Disk launcher iirc?

[lavish orbit]

Laser

Munitions empty -> auto refill

[lime phoenix]

tenet nukor pretty much

[dense abyss]

What i change here for Saryn?

without faction mods, of course

With "COLD" progenitor, can make viral without cold mod, but Primed its a lot of raw damage to ignore, no?

[quiet laurel]

wdym with without faction mods

its one of the only things increasing acid shells DoT damage

[dense abyss]

i don't have, so i'm trying to make works with Roar Toxic Lash for standard double dip...

[quiet laurel]

its triple dip

[dense abyss]

without faction?

[quiet laurel]

faction triple dips

[dense abyss]

yes, i'll not use...

[quiet laurel]

well roar is faction so it'll do fine

would lowkey recommend shotgun vendetta for the reload speed QoL

[dense abyss]

in place of barrage?

[quiet laurel]

its an arcane

[dense abyss]

What you say about Clip Delegation?

worth?

[quiet laurel]

very good for the multishot

probs instead of toxic barrage

[dense abyss]

cool

thanks, btw

last question

is better to have the progenitor with magnetic if i'll use tox+cold mods for viral?

my question its because low status chance

idk if will really increase damage with Savvy

[primal bane]

I have a question about arcane acceleration, for it to activate, does the warframe ability need to crit? Or if my primary does the crit does it still activate?

I wanna know before I invest in a full one for my Follie

[quiet laurel]

activates on primary crit hits

[primal bane]

So the forced red crit the enkaus gives will activate it?

[quiet laurel]

yes

[primal bane]

Sweet thanks

[weary yacht]

what sort of valkyr builds are out there?
also any sicarus and okina incarno builds?

[pliant kite]

Ok last question, is the tenet quanta sorta like the flux rifle?

[hollow plover]

is kuva chakkur anygood?

[wary forge]

yes

[hollow plover]

who can i use it with/for?

[wary forge]

its good for single target

[hollow plover]

hmm so bossing?got any good build?

[wary forge]

yes

just pure dmg and crit

one of the few guns where acuity is actually good

[normal folio]

I managed to kill 100 enemies with the sybaris and it still says 0/100

What did I do wrong

[hollow plover]

did you activate incarnon form for the kills?

[normal folio]

I have to activate it...?

Cause when I did evolution 1 I didn't activate anything

[wary forge]

cause its a diffrent requirement?

[normal folio]

Oh yeah it is

[wary forge]

evo 1 is just do a mission

[normal folio]

How do I activate it?

[wary forge]

.....

[normal folio]

Nvm found it

I just have to open arsenal

[median crystal]

I just unlocked the archon shard segment for the helminth, so I was wondering what are the best archon shards to put on Titania prime?

[normal folio]

Ok yeah no

It's the alt fire one isn't it

[normal folio]

The one on the left

[green gyro]

she doesn't really need any, but I run 3 Tau cast shards

and 1 parkour 1 energy orb but those aren't as important

[median crystal]

3 casting shards seems crazy

[green gyro]

nah it's for thermal sunder

[median crystal]

I was gonna put like an energy orb and maybe 3 ability strength

[green gyro]

feels really bad without cast speed

ability strength isn't really necessary tbh, and sometimes you want lower str so you can still control razorwing blitz

[median crystal]

Yeah I wasn’t using Titania purely for relic runs, I use her for everything right now

[wary coral]

Can any1 help wr with a good torrid build ima protea main I usually deal with lvl 200 steel path constantly

[green gyro]

then you will have enough strength from precision intensify and arcane impetus

[normal folio]

I can't use the incarnon version

[green gyro]

don't need shards too

[green gyro]

https://overframe.gg/build/472389/torid/torid-incarnon-corrosive-blast-and-variants/

[weary yacht]

?

[sleek glacier]

Hello! What would be a good beginner build for Excalibur?

[normal folio]

Finally stupid fcking alt fire worked

[wispy dew]

Alright I don’t often speak in servers and I only recently joined,im mr6 atm and I just got myself gauss prime apart from rush (with 30%) speed boost what do yall reccomned to go fast

[fierce lark]

warcry aug and the amount of range you run are flexible

[wary forge]

dont focus on going super fast jsut use rush and maybe the sprint speed aura if u have it

[weary yacht]

I assume battery is in place of flow?

[wary forge]

just build around thermal sunder and u will be fine

[weary yacht]

question, if an exalted weapon does elec damage (like valk talons or excal blade), does that proc archon stretch?

[graceful anvil]

Does anyone have a good nuke build for their volt prime?

[wary forge]

dont build him like that

[graceful anvil]

oh owo

[fierce lark]

ye

[graceful anvil]

This is how I have him currently

[fierce lark]

for most, no. archon stretch doesn't regen during periodic energy drain

[dusky bane]

his "nuke" sucks outside of ESO

[graceful anvil]

what is ESO

[fierce lark]

so channeled exalted weapons that use energy over time don't work with it

[dusky bane]

elite sanctuary

[graceful anvil]

ah

[weary yacht]

I keep forgetting that energy regen halts during channel powers

[fierce lark]

baruuk and temple are the only exalted weapons i know of that don't drain energy over time

dante?

[valid plaza]

Is this worth selling, or is this Endo?

[dusky bane]

cyte?

[fierce lark]

i regularly forget cyte has an exalted

[weary yacht]

regularly forget cyte exists

is steel charge alright instead of corrosive?

[abstract saffron]

mistake. cyte is super strong

[weary yacht]

probably forget about him because his thing is snipers and I can't stand those in this game

does valk 4 snapshot buffs or does it change as buffs are added or removed?

[abstract saffron]

nah, you can easily subsume off his 4 (sniper skill) or just forget it. his thing is infinite invisibility with headshots and infinite ammo if you use a ammo hungry gun. dont forget, gas can headshot

[dusky bane]

it's only good for the capacity, the bonus is worthless

[weary yacht]

even on a melee frame like valk? wack

[wary forge]

pradeos its .6 dispo riven not worth unless its a g roll

even then

[weary yacht]

of course battery is an ascension arcane D:

[fierce lark]

additive bonus

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[fierce lark]

stacks on top of mods on the weapon + valk's ability strength + valk's passive

[old marsh]

Stat stick weapons dont really have any riven values

[weary yacht]

is it bad that I'm considering farming Vor to get arcane battery?

[old marsh]

😭 i have Furax riven and it has like near max dispo

[ember surge]

Like Valkyr needs any more damage 😭

I prefer using swift momentum on her

[wary forge]

praedos can do a lot of damage as like a slam/heavy attack hybrid

cause u slam spam with it pretty easy and use the ammo pick up evo to get a lot of combo

or jsut you know the typical influence build

issue its just really low range

[fierce lark]

i would say yes, ascension is pretty easy to farm and also has a pity system to make the arcanes much easier

[weary yacht]

I just remember having trouble finding all the beacons back when I was farming for ice storm

[dusky bane]

60% more when CO is likely giving you over 300 is barely noticable

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

[fierce lark]

i do everything on multiplayer and usually even if i can't find them all myself, someone else will find one or more, or they'll keep the lift going while you look

[ember surge]

They do emit a very recognizably sound

[weary yacht]

tbh I've never been able to find others running that mission ever, so its always been solo

[frigid crater]

Is my khora supposed to be doing only 700k?

[old marsh]

depends on build

[frigid crater]

Melee influence generic build

With CO

[vale abyss]

is zenith any good?

[old marsh]

that explains it

plus with influence r not supposed to be hitting for large numbers anyways

i dont get whats the issue

[fierce lark]

not particularly, maybe it's decent for when you get it

[old marsh]

its a decent primary

nothing great tho

[fierce lark]

the altfire has a ton of damage and multico so if you want to prime things you can insert disc and see funny numbers

[low flax]

whats a decent subsume for baruuk?

[frigid crater]

Idk, i was just expecting more big numbers

[low flax]

and if you say nourish or roar you explode

[frigid crater]

Maybe i should do a melee vortex build, influence makes the grind harder

[frigid crater]

Lycaos hunt

[vale abyss]

okay, found out about incarnon weapons being the stuff i was thinking about (sp fights)

[low flax]

oooo wait thats a good one actually

[fierce lark]

baruuk has 0 energy issues

one of few exalted frames that actually gets to use archon stretch

[low flax]

wrathful advance?

[old marsh]

then u should NOT use influence if u want big numbers and obviously if u use CO then u wont get any big number unless u have like 3+ status on the enemy

[low flax]

seems like a decent idea

[frigid crater]

That's just as generic as nourish tbh

[fierce lark]

wrathful/roar/pillage

[low flax]

yeah but at least i get red numbers

[frigid crater]

Radial blind + the augment

[old marsh]

Nourish on Baruuk isnt needed coz u already have 160 efficiency and viral from your companion. WA or Roar is a better one to use. SPECIALLY if u use his augment

[fierce lark]

nourish is actually still good on him, his status chance is so high with reactive storm that it doesn't mess with influence procs

[low flax]

thats kind of counter-intuitive cuz I already have lull and desolate hands so they'll either be sleepin or disarmed so blind doesnt help much

[fierce lark]

so you spread viral more or less for free

[old marsh]

thought nourish doesnt affect the weighting anyways

[fierce lark]

pretty sure it does

[frigid crater]

At least you get more finisher dmg

[fierce lark]

it just adds the dmg as a viral mod

[frigid crater]

Actually radial finish would be better for Ash

[old marsh]

time to open wiki

[fierce lark]

for a long time i thought it was a guaranteed viral proc but nah

[frigid crater]

I should get the kuva sobek

[fierce lark]

if it was a separate viral instance with procs it would be op as shit on influence melees

[frigid crater]

Heart its pretty good even without saryn/oraxia

[fierce lark]

it's pretty mid if you aren't playing a shells platform

it's ok

the other aug makes the dmg ridiculous but it's moderately annoying to play around

[frigid crater]

Better than my kuva chakkur that i only got because of my " i love wisp " phase

[fierce lark]

but also that aug is expensive af

[frigid crater]

Eh

Whats 2 more VC lvl cap runs

[old marsh]

ye. nourish doesnt double dip like roar/xata/toxic lash. but thought it was just a separate thing. and not affecting the weighting. thats so shitty tbh. how is the weighting calculated for each weapon? based on the str? so it sucks for weapons with low base dmg?

[frigid crater]

Nourish is mid, confirmed.

[fierce lark]

should behave the same way as shock/fireball etc augs and act as an elemental mod on the weapon

weighting will calculate against other elements

thats kinda why influence builds dont rly want it

but like if you have over 1k status chance like on desert wind it doesn't really matter lmao

oh on the topic of baruuk subsumes - i used pull for awhile

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-please-do-not-the-cat-gif-11013093716903899251

[undone dust]

koumei finisher meta

[solar reef]

it can be boosted to 100% EHP% damage through other decrees

makes ash and stalker silly

[modest vector]

is there anything i can replace hotshot and velocity with? these arcane are so expensive 😭

[slim torrent]

hey fellas, do you guys think its worth to helminth lycath's hunt or kullervos crits are better on khora prime

im having a lot of trouble with managing the energy, idk what to get other than voruna's hunt thing to sustain it better

but i also feel like i will be missing out on a ton of dmg if i neglect kullervo's crits

[old marsh]

avenger and circumvent. u can use furax as secondary to get extra fire rate (if u have its amalgam mod)

[wary forge]

just use equilbirium and sytnh deconstruct on ur pet

[fierce lark]

augmented can replace hotshot, velocity is in a league of its own though. if you don't have it you can replace it with impetus or another generic stat arcane

or ye avenger disc

[wary forge]

you dont need hotshot ye velcotiy u really do tho

[slim torrent]

doesn't synth deconstruct give health orbs and not energy orbs?

[modest vector]

alr ty guys im finally building mesa after her collecting dust in my inventory for like a week

[wary forge]

with equi

[fierce lark]

equilibrium turns health into energy

[wary forge]

it gets converted to enerrgy

[fierce lark]

50 health orb = 55 energy

[slim torrent]

oh, aight cheers

[fierce lark]

but also lycaths khora is bis

[old marsh]

with the amount of whipping she does.

really wish precision intensify was updated to Exalted Intensify

[wary forge]

just subsume her whiper claw and use nami solo

[fierce lark]

khora runs negative str typically and lycaths doesn't care about your str number, so it fits in well

[solar reef]

i usually just run nourish on her

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-ew-wtf-no-disgusted-gif-11058683547538402693

[solar reef]

"ew"
you would use it too if you didnt have some elitism for not using it

[old marsh]

Not just for Khora. I thought about it how the pseudo exalted weapons don’t have 4 and instead r on 1

[solar reef]

hell I bet you DO use it a ton

[undone dust]

i used to use nourish then i swapped to lycaths just to never touch her again

[quiet laurel]

khora bright bonnet 🥶

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/bil-volturi-aro-twilight-gif-23094991

[solar reef]

i still havent messed with bright bonnet

i know its really good I just havent bothered

[fierce lark]

nourish khora is uh

definitely a choice

[chrome badge]

Khora + spectrosiphon

[solar reef]

the same end goal as lycaths but you also get viral

[chrome badge]

Or better yet, Khora + decoy

[quiet laurel]

khora + rebuild shields

[old marsh]

Do try when possible. Genuinely good. Specially in pubs

[fierce lark]

you get like 12% viral lmao

[chrome badge]

I actually use decoy on my Khora

[slim torrent]

ye i got catalyzing shields, ain't that good?

[quiet laurel]

nope, rebuild shields is much better

[solar reef]

seems kind of counterintuitive with her 4 since trapped enemies wont shoot your decoy

[chrome badge]

The enemies outside will still wander to attack the clone

[solar reef]

would you not rather them just walk into dome instead of stopping to target decoy

[chrome badge]

They’re not stopping, they get closer if they can’t see it

[fierce lark]

what tf is rebuild shields

[undone dust]

pillage but worse

[solar reef]

i just dont see the point if you're using damage decoy since its very one-or-the-other

[dusky bane]

sounds very much worthless

[quiet laurel]

the new meta helminth

[solar reef]

damage decoy being the only real reason to slot decoy

[chrome badge]

Eh

[sterile fossil]

Best incarnon frfr

[dusky bane]

free 200p right there

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-ambrz-cat-fading-smile-smile-fade-gif-7045864595609206640

[chrome badge]

I’ve found it better than dispensary on her

[fierce lark]

brother highkey stug rivens are a peak investment

[undone dust]

the new bitcoin

[sterile fossil]

I got it yesterday from a riven

[solar reef]

i just hope the incarnon actually ends up being good so its prices shoots up

[fierce lark]

oh actually they're already up to 200

[dusky bane]

lycath's khora is easily the most comfy subsume

[solar reef]

i'd hate for the price to drop

[wary forge]

https://tenor.com/view/aot-meme-aot-bp-larp-larping-gif-3516451944322480910

[undone dust]

5p to 4p

[dusky bane]

I'm curious about how it'll work
first incarnon for a gun with an alt fire

[quiet laurel]

larp larp larp sahur

[solar reef]

?
they're at 200 trash p

[dusky bane]

dawg stug rivens are around 200p just cause of that incarnon 💀

[chrome badge]

You’re not wrong, doesn’t her whip have all ips as a base?

[undone dust]

that is actually insane LMAO

[sterile fossil]

Should I hold onto it longer?

[chrome badge]

Ye

[sterile fossil]

Watch it get to 500 plat

[solar reef]

i'd sell it the week before it releases

make sure you catch it in the middle of its hype yk?

[sterile fossil]

When is it releasing

[chrome badge]

Any theories for what stug incarnon will be like?

[dusky bane]

not that it matters when you'll either mod elec or mag on it

[solar reef]

we dont know yet

[chrome badge]

Ew

[undone dust]

beamslop, trust

[dusky bane]

there's a chance it'll drop if the incarnon's shit
there's a chance it'll skyrocket if the incarnon's good

[mighty flare]

secondary torid

[solar reef]

ips means nothing for the ability

[chrome badge]

No bc then it’d suck

[sterile fossil]

I might not even sell tbh I really like the stug

[mighty flare]

it sucks rn

[sterile fossil]

Pre incarnon

[dusky bane]

it's 100% getting the torid/angstrum charge treatment

[solar reef]

lycaths hunt is just on melee kills
it doesnt matter if its ips is high or low

[chrome badge]

Doesn’t it add more statuses towards proccing lycath?

[quiet laurel]

warframe players when they could make millions if they invested as much time into the irl market trends as the warframe market trends

[solar reef]

No?
status doesnt mean anything with lycaths hunt

aside from upkeep

but just ips wont help with that

it takes 5 status

[undone dust]

im just hoping vectis inc is good

[chrome badge]

I was hoping the Ips would contribute 3/5 of those statuses tho

[dusky bane]

you can just rock a secondary primer and shoot a bit every now and then to upkeep
or you can just recast, you're generating infinite energy anyway

[dusky bane]

it does afaik

[sterile fossil]

Wait what incarnons are comming

[chrome badge]

True

[mighty flare]

vectis gets auto aim on heads with inf pt

[solar reef]

if youre spamming whipclaw you'll kill enemies way before you can apply 5 status

thats why you taker a primer

[chrome badge]

Tigris, vectis, stug, and then there’s 2 more iirc

[undone dust]

dual tox but awesome

[solar reef]

destreza

[dusky bane]

vectis, stug, obex, ballistica, destreza

[dusky bane]

tigris later
sadly

[solar reef]

tigris isnt comng this time

[chrome badge]

Oopers

[solar reef]

we just know it exists

[undone dust]

any marked for death rhinoers in chat

[solar reef]

marked for death died when they made it work the way it was supposed to

[chrome badge]

And that the Devstream for the unnannounced update is this Friday?

[quiet laurel]

tigris incarnon just gonna be kuva hek with no AoE whatsoever and be ass I just know it

[undone dust]

you ruin all whimsy so im legally obligated to evaporate you

[chrome badge]

Nah trust it’s gonna be torid 3.0

[mighty flare]

vectis = primary dual tox
stug = secondary torid
destreza & Obex = influence slop
Ballistica = hidden variable

[solar reef]

DE ruined all the whimsy by fixing it

[undone dust]

true..

[undone dust]

isnt ballistica the one with the spectre passive

[solar reef]

i hope destreza incarnon ends up being a doughty fiend

[chrome badge]

Yesssss

[solar reef]

give me a "bullet" projectile on stab attacks

[mighty flare]

only the prime has it

[chrome badge]

Im tired of using doughty on only halikar wraith and anku

[dusky bane]

primary dual tox sounds fun asf, I can't wait

[undone dust]

aw man

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/bojji-ousama-ranking-tibas-jv-dance-bojji-dance-gif-23687203

[mighty flare]

ballistica needs big upgrade, that thing is ass

[solar reef]

cant wait for destreza incarnon

[undone dust]

just make it flame skewer from elden ring trust

[solar reef]

DE has yet to make a crossbow, primary or secondary, good

[chrome badge]

Attica is fire tho?

[mighty flare]

tenet attica 2027

[solar reef]

"hey heres garudas awesome "signature" stake launching crossbow"
porceeds to make it ass and terrible

[mighty flare]

someone at de has burning hatred against crossbows

[solar reef]

curse be upon us

[chrome badge]

Dex Attica 2027

[solar reef]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Burning_Hate

true!

[chrome badge]

Xata?

Imagine ballistica incarnon is like epitaph’s charge fire

But wilder

[solar reef]

i think it would be way funnier it just threw a whole javelin

[chrome badge]

lol?

[solar reef]

like just launch a massive bolt with infinite punch through

[chrome badge]

Like a railgun

[solar reef]

even funnier? make it ass

it just shoots edun

[chrome badge]

!!! Opticor 2.0

Bwhahaha

[dusky bane]

nagantaka's usable

[solar reef]

usable

[dusky bane]

like decent, not copium usable

used to be good in the slash meta

[chrome badge]

Now slash meta is convectrix

[solar reef]

now slash meta is -slash +elec

https://tenor.com/view/ritz-balls-tonic-chud-gif-10166682899603672147

[chrome badge]

Influence slop? Smh

[fierce lark]

scythes with afflictions are about the only time you see slash being used deliberately

or like 2 guns that still use hm

[solar reef]

slash is pretty good when that slash proc deals 700 million damage 😭

[chrome badge]

Is it bad I use anku incarnon with doughty?

[solar reef]

forced slash proc on scythes is yummy

[dusky bane]

I can't think of any ngl

[fierce lark]

probably idk doughty is ass in every context ive ever seen it

[fierce lark]

bramma and like maybe zarr when you're not using them with resup

[chrome badge]

I’m using it to beef up my crit dmg so I can slide attack and heavy attack

[dusky bane]

unironically I haven't used those 2 weapons since 2022

so I wouldn't know

[solar reef]

doughty was pretty fun when it didnt work how it was intended

[chrome badge]

Zarr is nice on Oraxia with blood for ammo

[fierce lark]

yeah i remember putting potato and modding bramma for a circuit run and immediately seeing how unusable it was without significant ammo buffs

like 80% secondary gameplay until i could get all of the on-roll efficiency decree 💀

[solar reef]

i actually ended up using Zarr as an aoe primer thanks to how usable it is in circuit

[rocky mason]

Kuva tonkor still uses it

Pitiful status but guaranteed crit

[fierce lark]

yeah that makes sense

im more thinking in the lines of guns that were ever meta/actually good at some point

all ive heard about the tonkor is it sucks

[rocky mason]

Not even the zarr goes to 100% with critical delay

It doesn't suck

It's basically a more usable zarr

No ammo issues, more crit chance

[fierce lark]

zarr's shotgun mode has 37% crit

[rocky mason]

Isnt it 25

[dusky bane]

that's cannon mode I think

[fierce lark]

cannon mode has 25

status chance is kinda still relevant tho cause you want to apply viral with the bleeds

someone with like 80% primary usage being acceltra prime last year said they used hm on it but im not convinced it's good

[dusky bane]

I'm not convinced acceltra in general is good

[fierce lark]

it's like

reverse convectrix

has the opposite ammo situation but is great for the same level of content

or it scales pretty well if you give it enough buffs

[glass cape]

Is this a good Credit Farm build?

[dusky bane]

define credit farm

[solar reef]

the only thing that affects credit farming for chroma is that his 4th is present when the credits drop/pick up

build him however you want because none of it will affect how his farming performs

[prime scarab]

Whenever I slot a shard of any type within helminth it seems to give a slight sprint speed boost. This doesn't exist after leaving the helminth, but does anyone know why its doing this?

[dusky bane]

could just be some weird UI bug

[prime scarab]

I wish it were permanent >:[

[wary forge]

Don’t ever go adaptation on chroma

Legit the biggest wasted slot of all time

[dusky bane]

how so

[wary forge]

You have already have so much armor

There’s just no need to go adaptation you’ve tanky enough just with vex armor

[dusky bane]

by that logic, fiber's worthless too, just persistence?

[wary forge]

Fiber is worthless yes

It just Bosts your other umbral mods that’s the main thing

[chrome badge]

i use triumbral on my chroma

[wary forge]

And u also don’t have to worry about a heat proc taking off your persistence

Stuff like that

[velvet pulsar]

Glorp Gnarp pip pip

Bogos Binted.

[prime scarab]

ive been saying this for years, thank you!

Its about time someone else gets on my page

[rocky mason]

I use circumvent on my chroma to steal that sweet overguard from the techrot eximuses

[wary forge]

Don’t do that

[rocky mason]

You can't stop me

[wary forge]

You’re right I can’t

[chrome badge]

not a bad idea

[wary forge]

Secondary fortifier is pretty good at getting overguard

[green gyro]

this is a bad idea

[wary forge]

Just saying

[green gyro]

chroma stacks vex armour from HP damage also

[chrome badge]

ill still stick with melting techrot eximus with weapons

[rocky mason]

Chroma is just there for the 4th, I just use infested mobility on his 1 and roll to steal overguard

[wary forge]

That as well

[chrome badge]

thats kinda wasteful