builds-discussion

[prime ivy]

Didn't know daikyu had an augment tho

[opal leaf]

Aight class time cya

[eternal prism]

sharpshot better

[craggy niche]

they certainly go uhhh

all in on these heirloom skins don't they lol

just saw the valkyr one

[opal leaf]

Yes but when you don't have it, deadhead is a good placeholder

[eternal prism]

maybe

[opal leaf]

Fair fair

[eternal prism]

transfered distortion

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-cat-uncanny-cat-gif-17717270398074174657

[craggy niche]

magnus incarnon whennnnnn

[eternal prism]

never

[craggy niche]

on the real tho baza deserves a incarnon

that thing is sad

[violet silo]

tigris

[eternal prism]

u can try this one. not hp tank(any subsume over 1 or swap augment for 3)

[violet silo]

why would you subsume over ripline

[eternal prism]

cuz i use augment for 3

they interchangeable

[violet silo]

ripline is faster and iirc has higher range scaling tho

[eternal prism]

i use praedos + 3 park shards

[violet silo]

plus its a valuable movement tool

[eternal prism]

I don't need mobility from 1

[violet silo]

see that just sounds like ur losing a lot of value in ur kit just for the sake of keeping the 3

[eternal prism]

Besides, the first one has a smaller radius and a fairly long flight time

[violet silo]

its not that long

over twice as fast as a bullet jump on terrain, over 10 times as fast on an enemy

[pallid quiver]

chat

which coda weapon do i get (just got bassocyst)

[eternal prism]

It's enough when I can put something more passive
It's quite long. As I wrote above, they're interchangeable, and you can use them if you like. I didn't like it, and the third one is enough to spam and kill everything
1st doesn't give any vulnerability to damage and that's the main problem

[violet silo]

dual torxica

[pallid quiver]

not on this rota

[violet silo]

oh this rotation specifically

[pallid quiver]

si

coda liches arent a slog to kill anyways

so once the next rota comes around ill just slime out another

[violet silo]

pathocyst maybe

[violet silo]

valkyr is far from needing damage vulerability

you one shot 80% of steel path enemies

[eternal prism]

demolishers need it not valk

[violet silo]

even then

[eternal prism]

only with it she can one shot it

[eternal prism]

100%

not even 90

[violet silo]

exposure and continuity are enough on her to kill heavy armored enemies

[eternal prism]

only mobs she doesn't one-shot are demolishers

[violet silo]

sure

[fierce lark]

valkyr needs either high range ripline or influence

having neither is giga trolling

[violet silo]

even so, 3 isn't needed

[eternal prism]

But I already wrote that I don't need and it's not convenient to press 1

[violet silo]

it's a far better grouping tool

[eternal prism]

It can't be spammed like 3. That's a problem for me

If you like it, you can use it. I thought I suggested an alternative

[violet silo]

why would you spam it?

[eternal prism]

because I have big parkour speed and I can afford to fly all over the map

+praedos +3 park shards

[violet silo]

...ok but I can do that too, and I just press 1

[eternal prism]

I just don't need skill 1 for this.

[eternal prism]

You can, I don't stop you

[violet silo]

I still have wayyy more than enough damage and more mod slots and shard slots remaining

[eternal prism]

I need a more passive skill instead 1. For example, additional aoe control

cuz it not hp tank

i need it and cant tank a lot

[violet silo]

thats another odd thing. why no hp tank?

she's built for it

[eternal prism]

I don't like it. frame can't die anyway

[violet silo]

yeah but u just said u struggle with tanking

[eternal prism]

No, I just wrote that it wouldn't be bad

since there is an augment for 3

In any case, I find pressing 3rd more convenient. You should use frames the way you like, right?

[violet silo]

you said "cant tank a lot"

[eternal prism]

I meant the passive that gives invulnerability for a limited amount of time

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-cat-uncanny-cat-gif-17717270398074174657

This applies to almost any frame, so there's no point in nitpicking

[violet silo]

sure, but even then I just wouldnt subsume. its not like she needs one anyways, and u lose a lot of utility by cutting the 1 and investing a mod slot, 3 shard slots, and a melee (the melee is fair ig, I use praedos on her too) to counteract the mobility loss.

[eternal prism]

try mexian with talons then

[violet silo]

mexian?

[eternal prism]

I don't lose a single unit of mobility

[opal leaf]

Hello

[knotty halo]

Uh, how's my Noctua so far?

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202303293146013738/1241886904744542299/attachment.gif

I think you'll draw an analogy

[violet silo]

im confuse

[eternal prism]

But since this is a feature that can't be discussed here, I won't write about it

[violet silo]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silk-song-silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-hornet-gif-9486712578214888028

[eternal prism]

It doesn't matter. Just use it as you like.

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-meme-silly-cat-silly-weep-gif-16415733508326637886

[opal leaf]

into my meme bag

[violet silo]

https://tenor.com/view/another-easy-steal-gif-4144358189127712325

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359267439564685489/1441237521408200767/image.gif

Incredible crit damage. I probably shouldn't have gone without shards

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191157234261033150/1402045900876156948/togif.gif

[knotty halo]

I had swapped out Magnetic Might for Hornet Strike, i might swap out Heated Charge for Magnetic Might, idk. I can never tell which is better

[opal leaf]

Yo Dante users, help this tenno out

[eternal prism]

no dante users it chat

[opal leaf]

Ahhhhhhh

I am no Dante user hahaha

[eternal prism]

I could help, but I don't know how it works

https://tenor.com/view/cat-looking-around-nervous-licking-lips-looking-left-and-right-gif-94744654549153706

[opal leaf]

Try read the functions of Dante noctua

[eternal prism]

First, it needs to be pulled out of the helminth at least

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/553908205097320448/1168317795486928976/ezgif.com-video-to-gif.gif

[opal leaf]

Who is this character again?

[eternal prism]

kiriko

[opal leaf]

I know it's in overwatch

[opal leaf]

Ah yeah, damn it's been a while since I played overwatch

[mighty flare]

dont need hornet with galv shot and vice versa, decision depends on ur setup (you'd upgrade to cascadia flare later instead of hornet strike)
replace gunslinger/isotopes with lethal torrent
would slot crit chance & crit dmg too

[novel bear]

Target cracker and pistol gambit

[lean tendon]

No Tome Mods is depressing but I get it, those are ridiculously annoying to farm and if you want to buy it, you might as well get it from the in-game market instead

[novel bear]

Lethal torrent isn’t vital, but I would farm for it when you have the chance, it’s best in slot on almost every secondary

Tome mods are for making the weapon a support rather than a damage dealer

[lean tendon]

Even using DPS, you can still make use of Canticle mods in the Exilus slot

[novel bear]

This is true

[lean tendon]

Lohk for fire rate or Jahu for shield+armor strip

Lethal Torrent is imo BiS on Noctua

Fire Rate and Multishot is great for alternative fire spam and normal attacks

[novel bear]

Honestly, what secondary doesn’t run lethal torrent?
I can’t think of any

[lean tendon]

Fr

Two amazing stats in one mod

Crazy value

[novel bear]

More bullets and more bullets per bullet

[versed harbor]

just ones unaffected by multi ig which is very few

[mortal palm]

is this a good build for gram prime ?

[novel bear]

No
I assume you’re going for heavy spam?
You’ll want to take off blood rush for focus radon and gladiator might for elemental damage
Either primed fever strike with melee exposure or shocking touch with melee afflictions

[hard dove]

elementalist and careen but no elemental mods? no

[mortal palm]

can i get a good high investment build for it and also a riven mod slot

i rlly want to build this weapon

pls help ty

this is my first time building a melee weapon

[craggy niche]

mmmm

almost done with one of the intrinsics anyway

what do you spend intrinsics on after that?

[novel bear]

Nothing

[hard dove]

you stop getting them

[subtle crystal]

i have a great build for Voruna on speed and agility

[graceful plank]

How should I go about building yareli prime?

[eternal prism]

secret slam yareli

[hollow bramble]

yo guyz im tryna make a boss killer lex prime for my gauss any help?

incarnon obv

[eternal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-cat-uncanny-cat-gif-17717270398074174657

[tidal parrot]

put mods on it 👍

[craggy niche]

anyone got any sick oraxia builds? she kinda seems like she wants every stat up

[novel bear]

Ranked mods

[novel bear]

She mostly wants strength
Range is nice, but not vital
Same with duration
Equilibrium and her 1 are all she needs for energy

[craggy niche]

kinda looking at this for a starting point

[fierce lark]

outburst is flexible for deadhead, elementalist is only if you're doing thermal transfer blast

[mighty flare]

range low priority, everything else can be up yea
i run this lazy persistence
shards + unairu/armor mod for persistence

[hollow bramble]

how many shots does it usually take you to kill like acolytes or commandeered warframes in like sp

[fierce lark]

mine has hornet/deadhead/torrent instead of of gshot/outburst/ele, and a tox ms riven over the tox mod, and it kills acolytes in 1-2 shots depending on what im playing

[craggy niche]

i colored her like a spider

i should do a gross greeen for her energy tho

[craggy niche]

im suprised you didn't lean into her invis wall latch loop

or is it just not enough ?

[mighty flare]

the amount of tile sets that make wall latching annoying was too many
you don't have to, i just wanted a relaxed time

[craggy niche]

wasn't judging btw i was just curious about the logic

oh weird nourish gives viral to scuttlers lmao

lmao escapist might actually be kinda good on her too

i might go crepescular and escapist and really lean into the whole silken stride dodging around thing

[fierce lark]

im pretty sure escapist only counts oraxia's 1 when it's used on things that you can already mercy kill

heavy units/eximus

[craggy niche]

yeah he lists that but it seems like it's pretty easy to be getting mercy kills with her

[tidal parrot]

just want to add that along side umbral set you can use 2 blue shards (forget if it has to be tua or not) on armour and use persistence to make oraxia's huge hp pool while in her 4 be even stronger to use

[fierce lark]

may as well use umbral fiber if you're gonna use the other two anyways, save the shard slots for more toxin dmg

[tidal parrot]

i think with full umbral you dont hit the 700 requirement

[fierce lark]

actually i take that back oraxia's base armor is atrociously bad

[tidal parrot]

i was actually meaning with all 3 you need like the 2 shards for armour

[craggy niche]

umbrals are too rich for my blood, i'm creeping up on my tri monthly umbral and that bad bois reserved for my grendel

[tidal parrot]

unless you use like another arcane or some other source of armour

[craggy niche]

i'm just gonna go all in on the more active/invisible playstyle for her and see where that goes for now

[tidal parrot]

iirc her 4's max hp scales with modded hp as well so full umbral set is prty decent (if you go down persistence route)

i personally subsumed gloom over her 3 so i have like effectively infinite hp regen between that and health orbs from her 1 but tbh your porbably wanting more of that to go to energy via equilibrium

[craggy niche]

bro lol the sneaky playstyle is crazy with her lmao

very unique and i like it

[craggy niche]

what i've got so far on her

running this thing for lack of better ideas until i get her leveled

[novel bear]

She can do acid shells things if you want to use sobek

[mortal palm]

what slot can i swap this with

[tawdry trail]

finally someone posting an oraxia build with no arcane bellicose

[craggy niche]

like just the regular ass one from the blueprint market?

[craggy niche]

bellicose just kinda makes sense if you're tanking but i'm not tanking with her at this moment

i like her sneaky playstyle lol she's like a way less restrictive ivara

[tawdry trail]

bellicose gives strength with health but her 4th ability which you want the strength on can't benefit from the increased health

so it's a bit of a waste compared to some other arcanes

[craggy niche]

oh is it bugged? or is that how they want it

[tawdry trail]

that's bellicose working as intended

she only gets to make use of the strength while her 4th is active, but it doesn't apply to the 4th becuase when you cast it you don't have the increased health

[craggy niche]

oh okay. i guess reading from the wiki she doesn't make use of crespescular's extra 30 percent either which is kinda lame but 3x final critical is nothing to shake a stick at

[long portal]

it snapshots

[tawdry trail]

she can definitely make use of crepuscular because all you have to do is wall latch

[long portal]

yeah her passive activates out of 4 as well

[craggy niche]

oh weird the toxin override's cyte's resupplies and the reconifex forced heat

i wonder if i can get her ability pool high enough to abuse primary overcharge

energy*

that would go pretty nuts with vadarya

i keep trying to find some crazy use case for vadarya cuz the idea of a cc sniper that's not cyte's exalted really pleases me lol

[quiet laurel]

And its best use is on cyte

[craggy niche]

yeah i was just kinda thinking that in the back of my head lol i just never typed it out

he could actually make use of primary overcharge

[tawdry trail]

Can lavos valence formation infuse the lightning with other elemental damage?

[craggy niche]

no, the lightnings damage is solid it's just getting it to proc is key

it's a lottery based on per shot basis so it performs the best with more multishot

[tawdry trail]

arcane battery is the easiest way to get over 1000 energy to max out overcharge

getting enough armour to get that 1000 energy is the tough part

but more frames can do that than reach 1000 with primed flow I believe

[craggy niche]

it's interesting how they set it up

[tawdry trail]

makes sense

mostly

[novel bear]

Sporothrix

[novel bear]

Kuva one is better, but the augment is the important part

[night laurel]

minecraft trident with channeling...

[craggy niche]

i just tried xata's and blast akarius on her and holy what a crazy combo with crepescular lmao

[near vortex]

base Sobek is better if you have a strong riven, no?

[novel bear]

Maybe

Kuva sobek will have a much easier time getting the initial kill though, even with a riven

And you don’t need a riven for acid shells to work

[craggy niche]

imma play with this more, i replaced her cc with xata's but i might switch to the spideys

[old marsh]

Ngl, Sobek is starved for mod spaces. If u can fit in 2 mods with a riven then sure

[late hemlock]

Theoretically base sobek will have stronger acid shells with higher riven dispo for elemental damage

But it is totally uneeded so id rather use kuva

[old marsh]

It’s the only weapon with 3 augs

[late hemlock]

You only want 1 tbf

[old marsh]

Ye

But MORE THE BETTER

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

[tawdry trail]

clip delegation is pretty nice

[late hemlock]

I really dont like it personally

[tawdry trail]

225% status chance and multishot is a pretty good use of one mod slot and I always appreciate a conditional buff that isn't kill dependent

[late hemlock]

Maybe on a weaker frame that needs to build up more stats i suppose

Since I just use it on saryn it is more hassle than its worth

[tawdry trail]

fair enough

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

[craggy niche]

just realized camisado could also be a pretty good pick for her if you wanted a heealthy bump in strength

[tawdry trail]

potentially yes

[tidal parrot]

atp why not use molt augmented aside from taking a bit longer to build up unless you already are using it

[tawdry trail]

I haven't tried it but getting summons to attack regularly enough to maintain it can be a pain

I think I use crepuscular and blessing

[lunar glen]

Anyone have an early game weapon that I could invest to and build without it being a "waste"?

[tidal parrot]

nataruk

[late hemlock]

Generally quest weapons are good yeah

You also can technically get lich weapons pretty early?

[tidal parrot]

atleast pre new war

xoris is good but can take a bit to make good, broken war is prty alright iirc

[lunar glen]

im still on like second dream 😭

[long portal]

yeah you can technically get lich weapons right after the war within but you probably cant actually do a lich

[tidal parrot]

everything pre new war is early game :)

[lean tendon]

Then you don't really need to invest in weapons, just upgrade your mods

[tidal parrot]

i have a friend who i had to drag through new war and they werent using a very good weapon iirc, if you just mod for like multishot damage and viral heat on some rifle youll do just fine

[lunar glen]

thank you guys

[tidal parrot]

worse case scenario its like mabey a reactor as the most you need to invest for smthn like that

[severe bough]

I remeber the time when new war came out iconic moment

[craggy niche]

for like 3 dollars you can get that fulmin pack. fulmin's a pretty good carry weapon, i still use my fulmin prim with a internal bleeding build on it when i don't know what to run

i think i used the aeolak for some time early game cuz in those days you could get that and like 100p for 4 dollars or somthing

[tidal parrot]

even better its $2

[craggy niche]

lifehack to fulmin for some reason shot speed mods increase charge rate lol

[tidal parrot]

though that was reload speed no?

althoug i could also see that being the time it takes before it starts reloading

[craggy niche]

i think for the longest time it affected switch speed 🤣

oh shit yeah i think that's what it was

i remember the projectile speed did something funky that it wasn't supposed to lol

[tidal parrot]

i dont see anything on the wiki about it which makes me inclined to belive that the stats affect the proper things

[craggy niche]

idk but this has been a pretty solid build for this guy for me for a long time. doesn't work on chars that speed up fire rate as well but just for slapping on something when i don't know what i wanna run this thing's hella consistent

[fierce lark]

it makes 0 sense to run internal bleeding with corrosive

you'd run it with either viral or run corrosive + heat

but viral heat is likely the better combination of those anyway

critical delay is still strictly better than pstrike

[craggy niche]

I disagree with most of the aforementioned

Viral is just too many mods on innate electric and can be easily outsourced

[fierce lark]

?

viral is literally just replacing the mag mod and tox mod with viral mods

[craggy niche]

Crit delay takes a bad fire rate and makes it worse

And doesn't peak any thresholds anyway or get it that much more meaningfully close. Corrosive has great faction multipliers too

[fierce lark]

if you outsource it you don't need it sure, but never assume anything is outsourced

critical delay is literally just mathematically better than point strike unless you're using a bow that cannot fit a fire rate mod, and you should be running a fire rate mod regardless

im not saying corrosive is bad, im saying internal bleeding is bad, and running it with corrosive is redundant, bleed damage doesn't care about armor making corrosive status redundant, and if you have enough raw damage for that to matter then internal bleeding is simply worse than one of many other different sources of damage (more fire rate, a heat mod, galv scope, serration etc)

[craggy niche]

Also mag cap is great to have for overguard and capacity on a charge delay weapon

I dont care bro lol. I've tried this wespon in a multitude of different ways and run yours how you want but I think your advice is bad on it

[mighty flare]

even against grineer, viral would be better, especially when running internal bleeding

[lunar mesa]

Another thing is just dropping Internal Bleeding so you can get firerate in, whether it be through modding it or Reinforced Bond if your companion can.

[mighty flare]

by that argument, you could also easily outsource fire rate which would negate the "issue" of critical delay

[craggy niche]

Any further increase in fire rate would result in ib being ineffective and the charge rate being a bigger problem

[lunar mesa]

Could also swap the arcane to Primary Crux to be able to get more shots off

[opal leaf]

Oh hi spec

[lunar mesa]

Hi

[opal leaf]

How's you man

[lunar mesa]

Good about to log off for the night tho. How about you

[mighty flare]

i mean, it's not like ib is that great of a mod to stick to anyway

[opal leaf]

Ehhh leveling up Koumei for thing, and I might try the subsume less Koumei

[lunar mesa]

Good luck, let me know how it goes if you end up liking it or not

[craggy niche]

Do what you want man lol ive tried literalky everything yall are saying on it and its just worse

[fierce lark]

taking the same build and replacing ps/ib with delay/vile accel results in a 1.5x faster kill time

even if you leave all the elemental mods alone

[opal leaf]

Yeah I'm on to that Health tank Koumei shid hahahaha

[fierce lark]

internal bleeding is just bad

like there's no other which way about it

[craggy niche]

Not really

But you do you

Imma do me

[mighty flare]

lol

[fierce lark]

bro you are literally telling someone to spend real money to buy a gun and then giving them a bad build for it

[opal leaf]

What does it do

Me is curious

[fierce lark]

that's not you doing you lol

[mighty flare]

impact procs also apply slash

[fierce lark]

impact version of hunter munitions

[opal leaf]

Ah.... Yeah it's.... Sounds shit

[mighty flare]

mb, its a chance of applying slash

[cold salmon]

with limitation on fire rate too

[mighty flare]

doubled for lower fire rate

[craggy niche]

Fulmin has guaranteed impact

[opal leaf]

Oh hahaha

[opal leaf]

I have Fulmin, I know hahaha

I was curious about the internal bleed

[craggy niche]

I did nothing of the sort

I suggested they buy the gun to carry them through base star chart where they'll have none of these mods and not once did I ever say you should run this

You are the one being facetious and rude to me by implying some dogshit viral heat rinse and repeat formula is the only way to play the game

So kindly, screw off. I've told you 3 times now I don't want or appreciate your advice on the matter so move on with your evening lol

[mighty flare]

lol

[tame storm]

What would be a great weapon to build towards slaughtering narmer with

[mighty flare]

you got the nataruk?

[tame storm]

Let me check

[fierce lark]

pretty much anything, narmer kinda just fall over

[tame storm]

Yeah i still have it

[eternal prism]

u can use it then

[fierce lark]

toxin nataruk build half-decently will delete anything narmer shaped

[tame storm]

Are there more toxin mods only one i have for it is infected clip

[fierce lark]

malignant force, drops from corrupted vor in void missions sometimes

it's probably very cheap on warframe.market

[eternal prism]

Aren't all bows build like this?

slash/toxin

[fierce lark]

🤔

not that ive ever heard

nataruk is blast/elec/raw anti-faction depending on what you need

same with daikyu honestly

haven't used the dread or paris or any other bows

[eternal prism]

daikyu slash looks good atleast

not test toxin yet...

[tame storm]

Well its built for archon hunts now

[eternal prism]

dread with gas fine

[fierce lark]

oh and bramma

that's a slash bow, but thats because giant aoe + f all ammo

and i only use it with cyte anyway so it's pure elec

[eternal prism]

secret rad bramma

[raw trail]

does anyone know if the weak point dmg increases from mods like primary acuity and pistol acuity are also added along with vital sense and other sources of crit dmg bc on the wiki it only states that it's added along with the headshot multiplier range which is 3x for most and then it makes it 3 +(3.5 * 1.5) =8.25x (the "*1.5" is bc it states that it performs About 1.5x than it should)

[warm obsidian]

worth picking up Primed Convulsion/Heated charge?

[lean tendon]

of course

165% elemental mods are always good to have

[eternal prism]

It like base damage
Serration or etc

[warm obsidian]

Can get these combinations just by swapping positions and replacing Frostbite with Isotope

Corrosive, Viral, Magnetic
Gas, Viral, Magnetic
Corrosive, Viral, Blast
Radiation, Corrosive, Viral, Heat/Electric

What's the better combination here

[opal leaf]

That's the first time I heard it......

Is it good?

[eternal prism]

Yes

Toxin for bows fine

[opal leaf]

Toxin slash?

[eternal prism]

Yes

Dread gas

[opal leaf]

Well what makes a bow pack a punch more

Toxin Slash
Elec slash
Blast

[fierce lark]

slash is bad

in like 99% of cases

[eternal prism]

Toxin is usually used because it is universal against corpus

[opal leaf]

Yeah, got overshadowed... What do you suggest

[fierce lark]

i said toxin because the asker wanted a narmer weapon

toxin has +dmg to narmer

[opal leaf]

Ahhh that's why

[opal leaf]

Wait but Slash shreds acolytes no? It's the reason I can kill acolytes easily

[fierce lark]

god no, slash is atrocious against acolytes

[eternal prism]

Daikyu one shot it by slash😨

[fierce lark]

they're status capped, you can't apply more than 4 slash procs at a time and stacks don't add like heat does

[opal leaf]

But....

Slash is the reason for this right?....

[fierce lark]

yeah thats like...really slow for a weapon that's fully modded and invested

daikyu should be killing an acolyte in 1 shot clean

[eternal prism]

Secret tech

[opal leaf]

Hmmmmmm

[fierce lark]

same with nataruk

[opal leaf]

Then what's a better status for Nata

Elec and..... What?

[fierce lark]

elec

blast for lower lvl stuff

[fierce lark]

nothing, just elec

[opal leaf]

Just pure Elec?

[eternal prism]

Secret daikyu slash delete acolytes
Sounds like the title of a youtube video

[fierce lark]

nataruk is onetapping most of the things it hits, it doesn't need a secondary element

if you aren't 1shotting things though you can run anti-faction elements, raw corrosive/viral

[limber notch]

any mesa fanatics that wanna share some lower investment builds

[eternal prism]

It's good that I deleted nataruk

[opal leaf]

Hmmm....... Here look

This is my build tn

And faction in my experience... Doesn't feel good bc I need to switch mods frequently every level

[eternal prism]

Mesa or regulators

[fierce lark]

anti-faction elements, as in corrosive for grineer, viral for corrupted etc

[limber notch]

Both i suppose? Im just running heat with hotshot right now :3

[eternal prism]

Secret hotshot

https://tenor.com/view/shakeywobbles-cat-funny-crying-wobbly-gif-7691089864153619316

[opal leaf]

Oh

I thought it's a bit "Bad" for it...? Because how you don't stack viral fast enough bc Nata just.... Booms them

[fierce lark]

the status isn't relevant

corrupted take 50% more viral damage

[limber notch]

Nokko shroom and bouncing on it

https://tenor.com/view/bouncy-bounce-bouncy-cat-cat-bounce-silly-cat-gif-5621340139381653523

[fierce lark]

i'll share if you can explain what a pawjob is

[opal leaf]

Hmm

So pure Elec on Nata would do wonders.....?

[limber notch]

uhm no but share anyway? :D

[opal leaf]

Also I really... Need help here to make my Nata powerful....

[fierce lark]

ye

[opal leaf]

Also... A weird and stoopid idea

Elec slash Torid..... Mhm

Yeah

We going down with this tennos

[opal leaf]

A8ght... Hopefully it's true for them Acolytes

[warm obsidian]

So just went for Radiation, Corrosive , Heat, Viral

[eternal prism]

I used this one for lvlcap (And I forgot to put archon shards. 3-4 topaz with uskos or instead magnet/anemic heat mod)

[raw trail]

what😭

[eternal prism]

I think you'll figure out what to do to survive

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359267439564685489/1441237521408200767/image.gif

[fierce lark]

this is pretty low investment, only 3 forma, 2 if you use augur secrets instead of transient and 1 if you also leave out the exilus

hotshot would go over molt augmented

[eternal prism]

What

[fierce lark]

if you don't have secondary fortifier you need arcane circumvent on the frame, or to add something for survivability like adaptation + an armor shard or two

[graceful leaf]

Does anyone perhaps have a build for me from Nokko, starting with normal mods?

[eternal prism]

(vazarin is still waiting for its moment)

[raw trail]

how is it additive with base damage? that's the least expected answer

where do you know this from?

[fierce lark]

i will never suggest vazarin to anyone, it is dogshit to play with

[raw trail]

i tried to find sources but couldn't....

[fierce lark]

weak point damage is not additive with base damage

it is multiplicative

it is also multiplicative with headshot damage

[raw trail]

oh

[fierce lark]

primary deadhead multiplies with acuity, which also multiplies with the headshot % of deadhead

[raw trail]

where do y'all know all this from😭....wiki doesn't say shit about the base damage

[fierce lark]

the critical chance portion of acuity is additive with other sources of crit chance

[limber notch]

I don’t have velocity it’s over for me

[eternal prism]

Furax
Bond mod

[raw trail]

it's only proc if you score weak points tho right?

[fierce lark]

i strongly suggest getting it, very very strong on all secondary exalted frames

[raw trail]

without any weak points the acuity mod wouldn't do anything i assume?

[limber notch]

time to get framing 🫩

[eternal prism]

you need to read wiki

Usually everything is written there except for a bunch of bugs

[fierce lark]

saying acuity is multiplicative with base dmg is a little misleading, it's additive with weak point dmg which is a multiplier on your final dmg when you hit weak points

it's not quite +350% dmg but rather +175% as it says there

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191157234261033150/1402045900876156948/togif.gif

[raw trail]

yeah true

but i still don't see where it talks about the base damage

[eternal prism]

I think this should be removed from the game.
And sharpshot...

[eternal prism]

I joked with you so you could read it again

[raw trail]

😂

[eternal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-cat-uncanny-cat-gif-17717270398074174657

[raw trail]

fair enough....

[eternal prism]

Now try to find gas abuse on wiki

You won't find that there

But it exists

[raw trail]

feel like I'm gonna regret asking this but what is this gas abuse

[fierce lark]

sharpshot is too niche to care about its existence

acuity could be removed though, it's causing people to do some weird shit with their builds 😬

[raw trail]

you think it's actually good?

[fierce lark]

longbow sharpshot? it's amazing

if you can aim

[raw trail]

it's literally 3.3x less damage if you don't score headshots(i meant acuity

[eternal prism]

I can't say otherwise, they might fix it

[fierce lark]

oh no acuity is almost always awful

[raw trail]

uh huh

[eternal prism]

Sharpshot + acuity☠️

• spectral serration

• dread augment

[fierce lark]

sharpshot doesn't actively cripple your damage if you miss headshots, you're only missing out on some base damage from having deadhead or merciless

acuity literally makes your weapon useless unless it's hitting heads

[raw trail]

yeah exactly

[fierce lark]

and it's not even that much better when it is hitting heads lol

locking multishot is really really bad

[raw trail]

that's why i said without a galvanized chamber or diffusion it's 3.3x less damage and not even that much compensation on headshots either

[eternal prism]

On the other hand, provided that this arcana is multiplicative with any base damage (except co) It gives very high damage numbers

[fierce lark]

losing a 2.3x multiplier + 2.3x more statuses for +175% damage and +350% additive crit chance on headshots only

[raw trail]

yeah

[eternal prism]

Secret sharpshot

[fierce lark]

acuity is basically only good on hitscan aoe weapons where the aoe portion doesn't benefit from multishot

[raw trail]

ym sharpshot?

[eternal prism]

Yes

Slash looks fun wit it

[raw trail]

i also found sharpshoot fun

i just hate how ineffective ACUITY is

[eternal prism]

Because of its multiplicative nature to any base damage, it actually becomes a pretty good solo targeting solution

[raw trail]

they need to make the 350% multiplicative with headshots

instead of additive

[eternal prism]

If I show you my build for daikyu, you'll be scared

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-cat-uncanny-cat-gif-17717270398074174657

[raw trail]

i did soo much dmg using dread with it

[raw trail]

😂

[fierce lark]

one of these years i'll say slash is bad and people will believe me

[opal leaf]

Saryyyyyyyn I have an idea that idk if it'll work!!!!!

Is DR useless if you have r5 persistence?

[versed harbor]

useless to stack them atleast

[fierce lark]

yes

if you are taking enough damage for persistence to do anything, DR is no longer doing anything

[versed harbor]

ye

[eternal prism]

Secret one shot demolisher build

I want more crits

[raw trail]

harrow

[opal leaf]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

So no Nullstar on Koumei.....

[eternal prism]

Oraxia bow

[fierce lark]

internal bleeding on this is literally just worse than hellfire lol

or worse than hunter munitions

daikyu has so much base status chance you'd get more dot damage from heat

[eternal prism]

It has 100% impact proc

Mod give 75% slash proc

For impact

[fierce lark]

🤔

yeah it does nvm

[eternal prism]

Either way, this literally removes any demolisher from the game

That's why it's secret

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-cat-uncanny-cat-gif-17717270398074174657

Actually, there should be a mod for toxin and multishot, not all this...

[fierce lark]

it's still worse than just running a dmg element, they do way more raw dmg, the dot scales better, and daikyu has enough status chance to near guarantee elemental procs

[eternal prism]

As you can see, this build is tied to a single shot. I don't think any status can deal 30-50 million damage in 1 status proc

It's so specific that I only used it once

As I said, there must be a toxin there...

[opal leaf]

Lastly.... Does Toxin works like Elec or Elec is just..... Better

And I never used Daikyu that much bc... I suck at aiming at heads

[eternal prism]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Damage/Electricity_Damage
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Damage/Toxin_Damage

I recommend you read it

[fierce lark]

elec is typically better, toxin is better vs narmer and vs corpus with high % of their hp as shields

[opal leaf]

Hmmmmmm.....

About acuity Daikyu, is there a better way to do the aiming better?.... I suck at aiming

[eternal prism]

Multishot

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-cat-uncanny-cat-gif-17717270398074174657

[velvet pulsar]

Self damage is returning apparently

In a much more tame way

If any of the new tennokai mods apply toxin status to u, people are gonna pair that with hunder adrenaline

[eternal prism]

But....vazarin

[opal leaf]

B-but...... It'll... It'll suck ;~;

[eternal prism]

So there is no secret build

Only base defolt build...

[acoustic bluff]

Are you Clarn

Varazin demon

[eternal prism]

I know him
But not in cascade server

https://tenor.com/view/shakeywobbles-cat-funny-crying-wobbly-gif-7691089864153619316

[acoustic bluff]

Just hop in cc

Why even bother with PWF 💔

There’s top tier larp but yeah

[eternal prism]

Actually, it wasn't him who told me to try vazarin instead sg

[acoustic bluff]

🥀

[eternal prism]

Namelessdeity do it...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359267439564685489/1441237521408200767/image.gif

[acoustic bluff]

😭

[eternal prism]

Try vazarin

[acoustic bluff]

I’m a zenurik Gooner

[eternal prism]

Try vazurik

[livid abyss]

iwanna ask what other mods i should go for

[velvet pulsar]

Just finished the testing.
Waverider form is not considered a summon.

[eternal prism]

Time delete merulina then

Or use loyal mrulina

😨

[velvet pulsar]

I'm gonna keep using Loyal Merulina

[acoustic bluff]

Or don’t use the frame

[eternal prism]

Emmmm slam yareli still exists

[acoustic bluff]

Finally something good

[eternal prism]

Girl with big hammer

[opal leaf]

Ay yo my Daikyu thing is... Gone?

I asked about the Daikyu how to aim better but why can't I see it in the chats

[mortal palm]

for gram prime influence or exposure

[eternal prism]

Multishot

A strange question how to aim better

[opal leaf]

Hold on.....

But it'll make it weak right?

[opal leaf]

Ah that's my skill issue I'm trying find what are ways to make it easier to hit weakpoints

[eternal prism]

It will only become weaker if you don't hit the head with every arrow

Kovak aimlabs?...😨

[opal leaf]

XDDD should I???????

[eternal prism]

Idk

[opal leaf]

Anyways

That's my only problem with Daikyu

[eternal prism]

If you only want to shoot heads, this is probably a solo-target weapon. So, using it occasionally shouldn't be a problem

[acoustic bluff]

Shoot heads = play corpus

[eternal prism]

Shoot head = eximus nox

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191157234261033150/1402045900876156948/togif.gif

[warm obsidian]

using Loyal Merulina since KDrive sux

[eternal prism]

That's because it is

[opal leaf]

XD

[livid abyss]

needa ask what mods should i try to get next (aside from a stance mod since i haven't been lucky with that)

[warm obsidian]

Condition Overload (?)

[normal folio]

Can anyone recommend me mod setup

[warm obsidian]

Sorry
Barely used Xoris

[livid abyss]

damn

[acoustic bluff]

Bombo

[warm obsidian]

I hate it

[livid abyss]

understandable

[eternal prism]

Vazarin help with it😎

[livid abyss]

time to consult the internet or youtube

[lean tendon]

this is my budget build but you can change Bane mods to something else

[livid abyss]

I see I see, thanks, also been wondering if the galvanized steel on kill buff also gives the 2x multiplier for heavy attacks

[lean tendon]

Honestly I think Sac Pressure is better but I don't have it upgraded

[livid abyss]

I see I see

[fierce lark]

double sac is good for glaives

miserable to slot though

[opal leaf]

This is a CC intended Hydroid....

How do I improve this shid

I have viral Tempest and idk how to slot it in

[gaunt hamlet]

If i subsume Reroot on Nokko, Arcane Crepsuclar would be useless right?

[opal leaf]

Probably

You need to be invisible after all

[gaunt hamlet]

Yeah okay, i figured as much 💀 ty for answering the braindead question

[opal leaf]

No problem tenno, have a good day hahaha

[deep grotto]

Yeah CO doesn’t work with glaive explosions

[primal ibex]

Guys I'm Mr 8 gonna hit 9 soon I got Gauss prime calliban prime revenant prime Octavia prime volt prime wukong prime kullervo who's the best w guns and which gun is good w them I can get or farm

[deep grotto]

What Arcanes does one use with a primer Kuva Nukor?

[severe bough]

Just use shade or huras if u want to subsume reroot tho reroot still triggers crepsuclar just doesnt show in the hud

[granite ginkgo]

go w mirage, she good on any weapon u equip on her, 2nd best is volt p and 3rd be kullervo (can go w any melee)

[lunar mesa]

A utility focused one:

• Secondary Fortifier for added survivability for yourself
• Secondary Dexterity if melee focused for extra combo duration

[green gyro]

encumber

[deep grotto]

cucumber...

[granite ginkgo]

salad v

[severe bough]

Cascade salad

https://tenor.com/view/cat-leaf-vibes-vibing-sleeping-cat-gif-17297041570420202318

[static sphinx]

Blind rage is one of the best mods from Deimos vaults, right?

[severe bough]

All are good and important

[static sphinx]

I have some that seem to be "unusable".

[fervent rapids]

far from all Corrupted mods are good

[static sphinx]

So, blind rage is good for Sevagoth prime build, right?

[fervent rapids]

Blind Rage is widely used in most builds

[hexed lodge]

All corrupted warframe mods are good, the weapon ones are questionable

[hexed lodge]

In theory yes, in practice no cause it'll kill your energy

[static sphinx]

I've tried to find decent builds for him without mods that are far in progression, but a lot of "beginner" builds require 2 cephalon mods, and sometimes even primed ones. He's literally impossible to build on MR 7.

[fervent rapids]

use the regular versions of Primed mods you don't have

or Archon versions if applicable

also wdym by "cephalon mods"

[hexed lodge]

Interesting, I wonder if maybe you missed a spot or something...
||https://overframe.gg/build/891308/sevagoth-prime/early-game-sevagoth-build-guide-0-forma-no-augments/||
.
||https://youtu.be/sO-rHXdMnsE||

[green gyro]

no

you will not be able to cast on the most cast-heavy frame in the game

[static sphinx]

Actually I haven't seen it, my bad.

Why is there bleedout reduction and skill duration ones though?

[fervent rapids]

his passive

[hexed lodge]

It's ok, just trying to save a player from his "heavy-investment propaganda"

yea it extends the passive timer, in low levels enemy density is lower than high lvl content, if you kill 2 or 3 mobs with passive, the room most likely is clear and you'd need extra time to get to the next room

[static sphinx]

Alright, I wasn't aware that it affects his afterlife form.

[loud echo]

Whats a good subsume for Kullervo outside smite? I was thinking about warcry

[vagrant anvil]

Can someone help me make a Karyst build for one hitting steel path targets with finishers?
I want a dagger for efficient stealth play if this makes sense

[hexed lodge]

I can't put up a build right now but; which warframe are you planning to use? Are you doing finishers occasionally or in mass? Asking cause you could build for either Melee Crescendo or Galv Reflex depending on the playstyle

[vagrant anvil]

Id like to use it on inaros with his augment that finishers spawn kavats

So prob one where I do like 4 5 finishers per circle

I got a riven with 137 dmg 82 heat and + 108 finisher dmg

[undone dust]

im pretty sure innodem would just be better finisher wise anyway unless karyst has an insane bonus finisher damage passive

[vagrant anvil]

I dont like innodem looks lol
I dont need the very best one just want the best build for my karyst

[hexed lodge]

Nice, just fyi, +finisher dmg is multiplicative.
Yea go for a Melee Crescendo build with Blood Rush and Galv Steel +attack speed, idk about elemental dmg cause i always mod for faction, but i doubt that's your thing

innodem is best for finishers if you don't have riven for another dagger

[vagrant anvil]

Karyst my only dagger riven

[undone dust]

do you at least have prime? or are you using base karyst

[undone dust]

elemental would just be primed tox tbh

[vagrant anvil]

I got the prime

[hexed lodge]

yea prob, just unsure if op has it too lol

[undone dust]

karyst prime will definitely need the attack speed
shit is

slow

[craggy niche]

You only need to reach a threshold of 255 to one shot with roar up, this can be attained with transient, umb intensify, and either power drift or augur secrets combined with molt augmented

Or both of the latter to get there sooner without relying on ma too much to attain one shot

[hexed lodge]

fellow tenno is mr7, they are probably a bit too far from acquiring all of that yet

[craggy niche]

I mesn this was in reply to a question pertaining to a fairly late-early game mod lol

[near vortex]

"late-early game"

R5 Molt augmented

[novel bear]

Anything post new war is mid game

[coral crest]

Yeah anything post new war is mid game

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-loser-tiny-kitten-explode-gif-15623895175038521381

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-gif-17870535188958174605

[craggy niche]

I did say there were other ways of getting there. 🤷

It's hard remembering those days but I remember the main pain with early game for me personally was doing all the nodes to get sp unlocked. The rest of the nonsense didn't take long at all

Also i just kinda consider everything pre sp early game 😆

[quiet laurel]

the true and factual end game is arbi

[icy urchin]

do mods that improve weapons radial attacks range like firestorm buff scourge alt fire radius too?

[pallid quiver]

the real endgame is shrine defense

[craggy niche]

Koumei farm is basically this games equivalent of ANOTHER HAND HAS TOUCHED THE BEACON

[novel bear]

No, that’s tyana pass

[hexed lodge]

Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't, it's usually best to check the wiki on that.
On the Scourge's case, it doesn't.

[icy urchin]

damn

im doing some dumb mecha set yareli build and building it to be a support for it as much as possible it would have been nice to have the extra radius, but other stuff is probably better anyway

using cantare to spam reload for that one mod that shield gates companions when u reload, and fully building both it and my kubrow with mecha set for slash damage just to see funny slash icons appear everywhere

[old marsh]

Wrong. Real endgame is finding reasons to play a game mode u have played 69,420 times already

[pallid quiver]

true, i will one day do sp solo vault runs with exodia keys

[novel bear]

Relics

[pallid quiver]

running lua apollo for 1 hour just cuz u can

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[graceful helm]

Is it possible to make it better

This is the riven

[warm obsidian]

Encumber or Flare for the arcane?

[fierce lark]

flare

[pallid quiver]

hello saryn

[fierce lark]

encumber isn't even worth thinking about unless you have galv shot or it's a primer, and kompressa can't use gshot

hello woofton

[pallid quiver]

kompressa cant?

[dreamy radish]

is this an okay build in your guy's opinions or not really

[fierce lark]

no, 95% of the damage is aoe

[pallid quiver]

tf

tbf i have no clue how to use kompressa

since at base it has like no polarities

and no mod cap

[warm obsidian]

Ngl might just pick up both and out Encumber on Grimoire

[dreamy radish]

kompressa super fun, kompressa super strong too

mhhhhh, kompressa

[pallid quiver]

does it explode immediately?

[dreamy radish]

no

.6- .8 delay

[warm obsidian]

It's just fun lol

Sorry for the lag, apparently screen recorder can't keep up

Gets crazier with Harrow

[fierce lark]

no

atlas really likes range, running negative range is crippling to his gameplay loop

worthy comraderie is pretty useless, if you're punching things with 1 you can't really headshot

magnetic is fine for corpus but if you're fighting anything else you'd want corrosive/viral or just pure electric for general use. im not sure if base damage on landslide fists is additive or multi to ability strength, im assuming additive

[warm obsidian]

I am just now noticing Hornet isn't maxed

[earnest saddle]

magnetic is a good priming element for a companion, because overguard exists

if ppp functions the same as hornet strike on mesa's regulators, then it would be additive

[dreamy radish]

oh i forgot to change -range

[fierce lark]

archon vitality certainly exists

you want equilibrium somewhere

[fierce lark]

next mission is get atlas prime so you can potato it

[warm obsidian]

Pretty sure Atlas prime relics leaves in an hour

[dreamy radish]

im not working on primes rn 😭 im so tired of farming primes for rn

ima js level some weapons and get some mastery and maybe farm out some more corrupted mods

[fierce lark]

well, it goes without saying your options on the frame are very limited without a reactor

[dreamy radish]

reactor?

[fierce lark]

orokin reactor, the thing that gives +30 mod capacity

[dreamy radish]

ahhhh

[fierce lark]

but putting reactors on a non-prime frame is kinda sus unless you're not gonna get the prime any time soon and you want to play the frame long term

[sage night]

i dm'ed you my dude.. i'll give you my extra steel charge, rubble heap and cunning drift

[fierce lark]

you could buy an atlas prime set for 50-55p right now if you wanted to farm/buy the plat

[warm obsidian]

Pretty much safe to put it on Uriel and Folie lol

[dreamy radish]

i dont plan on playing only atlas, i still plan on playing a crap ton of mirage with acceltra

[dreamy radish]

im sorry 😭

[fierce lark]

the most recent frames that won't have primes for probably another 4 years sure

[tidal parrot]

Can't you also farm him rn or is he not in resurgence (atlas)

[warm obsidian]

Leaving in an hour

Nova and Trinity next

[empty mulch]

why my riven stats on coda synapse is lower compare to normal synampse? is it because the coda synapse has lower disposition?

[tidal parrot]

Ok so either options are either chop chop on buying relics or Plat if you don't got him

[fierce lark]

correct

[warm obsidian]

Or buy Regal :v

[fierce lark]

coda weapons all have dogshit disposition

[tidal parrot]

Coda has lower riven disposition then base synapse

[empty mulch]

ahhh, the more you know

[deep grotto]

i hope this isnt particularly jank

[tidal parrot]

Is it a build meant for damage/killing or for priming?

[deep grotto]

priming

wanted magnetic cause corpus and eximus tend to be annoying

its also fun to watch their shields disappear

[tidal parrot]

Move it around for corrosive cold then no? Since blast stacks prolly gona be going away really quickly

What's your progen element?

[undone dust]

yeah blast is definitely odd to add for priming

[deep grotto]

oh i didnt even notice blast was there

i was just fumbling trying to remember what order i put it in before i formaed it

[deep grotto]

elec

prolly gonna work on fixing that eventually

[tidal parrot]

Cuz iirc nukor does rad and microwave inate, you can, progen element magnetic and then go for like corrosive cold or viral heat or whatever and free up a slot or 2. Then you can put on like punchtough to prime even more enemies

[deep grotto]

yeah i guess i gotta get a better progen

[tidal parrot]

Overall build you have isn't horrible by any means but with a 7x crit multiplier feel like you should just run secondary enervate

[deep grotto]

noted

ty for the help

[fierce lark]

the progen can be electric or heat, doesn't matter that much

heat is better for the 50% armor shred

but taking a weapon with this much dps and using it as a primer is doing it a disservice

it should have viral, should have anemic agility, should have sure shot/galvanized shot

[tidal parrot]

Anemic agility? Isn't lethal torrent enough for fire rate normally?

[fierce lark]

sure, but what else are you gonna do with the mod slot

augur pact if you want i guess

[tidal parrot]

Merciless gunfight to hit even more enemies + more cd

[fierce lark]

cd is irrelevant, it's a priming build

[tidal parrot]

For priming sure, though you were talking about for dpsing

[fierce lark]

well the conversation just happened and they were talking about priming so im assuming they want it for priming

[tidal parrot]

Yea, I thought you were trying to say them to dps instead mb

[fierce lark]

if you wanted to make dps with it then it just looks like this (merciless gunfight over elementalist probably)

[tidal parrot]

Almost exactly what mine looks like but with merciless gunfight instead of pistol elementalist

[earnest canopy]

Ts good?

[warm obsidian]

Low-key kinda prefer the non Prime Soma build

[fierce lark]

looks good, wildfire over hellfire just for the augment is an interesting decision

[drowsy herald]

Should I wait for the update or farm a kuva nukor now

[severe bough]

Now iirc update wont change how u do liches only how u get the Requiem things

[warm obsidian]

Aren't they giving out all the requiem mods

[fierce lark]

yes

if you already have them, nothing is changing i believe

getting more will be easier

[drowsy herald]

They are giving the showdown thing weekly and that will help a lot with the murmur bs

[chrome cedar]

Is the Kuva Ogris good for Mirage? And how do I build for it?

[quiet laurel]

yeah subsume energized munitions, mod mirage for str and the usual necessary mods, mod ogris for the usual as well like ms, primed firestorm, base dmg, corrosive, fire rate

and go for vifilante supplies, very important

[chrome cedar]

Thanks

[quiet laurel]

and I recommend using black energy on ogris

[eternal prism]

On the contrary, for a mirage it is full crit heat

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191157234261033150/1402045900876156948/togif.gif

[warm obsidian]

Soma Prime's augment or Crit Delay

[burnt lava]

Is kestrel prime better with volatile rebound ?

[fierce lark]

yes

[burnt lava]

Damn guessed so, you got a build?

[fierce lark]

companion app moment

nvm it won't even work

[hollow plover]

hello gng

[warm obsidian]

Last slot either
Galv Aptitude, Shred or Augment

[sharp kiln]

Any gyre mains here?

[fierce lark]

augment

if you have the incarnon adapter

apt doesn't multiply base dmg from the incarnon evos so it's weak

[sharp kiln]

Need a sp viable gyre, never played her so kinda confused on what way I should build her

[warm obsidian]

All I know is Archon stretch is a must on Gyre

[fierce lark]

high strength & range, cathode current augment is mandatory, conductive sphere is optional but very good for weapons focus, reverse rotorswell is good if you aren't using overguard based survivability (i use circumvent so it's not that useful)

[sharp kiln]

Any shards?

Can u link / show the build?

[fierce lark]

i dont remember if i have a cast speed, equilibrium shard is good to slot in place of the mod, and the rest either +ability dmg to elec or +primary elec depending on if you're going ability dmg or weapons based

umbral forma is completely optional you can throw 2 forma on augments or use transient instead of umbral

[sharp kiln]

Aight ill try it out, thanks

[fierce lark]

survivability comes from rolling into things with overguard, max energy isn't needed since gyre barely presses buttons

if you wanted to go more nuke focused you'd probably want more strenth, like transient & pflow over continuity/conductive sphere

2 is the subsume slot unless you want to play with the funny soccerball

[tired mountain]

can yall help me figure out how to get nastier nukes pls

[fierce lark]

other than having more range there's not much more you can do

1-3 heat sunders into cold sunder with redline will kill whatever's in range

you should probably add a bit more duration

(if you can)

if you can farm rank 5 arcane concentration from descendia, that will help a lot more

[undone dust]

more strenth!!!

[fierce lark]

and like cunning drift/augur reach over streamline/power drift

[rocky mason]

Gauss nuking doesn't really need thar much strength surprisingly

If you do it correctly

[undone dust]

one
i am making fun of him
two
that was a reply to a gyre conversation

three im going to eat you

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HAUeFtVbwAAsTbB.gif

[rocky mason]

Lmao

[tired mountain]

🫩

[rocky mason]

Pray that baro brings primed continuity tomorrow

[tired mountain]

fr bro;-;

and flow cuz i need that

also hows this

[fierce lark]

narrow minded is a big no

[tired mountain]

ah ok

[fierce lark]

if you're trying to kill things with sunder you want 280 range

or at the very least 265 if you're running rush in the exilus instead

[tired mountain]

I wanna nuke the void cascade

[fierce lark]

45 strength will still nuke lvlcap in 3 heat sunders + cold sunder

[tired mountain]

i took out narrow and put in streamline that work?

[violet silo]

keep it at 100, that’s safest

[fierce lark]

thats fine, or you can do augur message

[near vortex]

Hoping new item tomorrow is Primed Combustion Rounds

[tired mountain]

i put da molt augmented

[violet silo]

use molt augmented to do it

[tired mountain]

yee

[violet silo]

yea good

[fierce lark]

safe for what

[violet silo]

kinetic plating and quick nuking

[fierce lark]

they're using aegis bug, plating doesn't do anything, and strength doesn't do anything for nuke

nothing noticeable anyway

[violet silo]

two tap nuking works for a while tho

with 100% strength

all it takes is molt augmented

[fierce lark]

if you're fine being at 130% duration sure

[near vortex]

ice storm my beloved

[eternal prism]

But follie

[queen parcel]

how would i go about making a shadow build for sevagoth?

not making the shadow powerful as well as sev i mean making sev a vehicle for the shadow

weak sev for stronger shadow

[late hemlock]

Don't really work that way, you can build them entirely separate

[kind void]

anyone here interested in a top level hate riven for cheap? been trying to sell it for like a month now

[thick tartan]

Can someone send their sp wukong spy build please

[kind void]

just max duration and effic

[thick tartan]

Should I subsume perspacity over his 3rd or 4th

[kind void]

no idea XD i just ran max duration effic thats all

[thick tartan]

Lmao thanks anyway

[violet silo]

works too

[violet silo]

you should never be near 130 duration

5 red shards, primed continuity, whatever else your build has

[eternal prism]

5 red? why not 3 park + 2 cast

[violet silo]

cuz mach rush

and high duration is mandatory

and redline buffs cast speed, scaling with duration

[eternal prism]

i need more cast speed then redline give

😎

[violet silo]

not really no

and if you really need it, boost duration more then

also 3 parkour is excessive on any frame

[eternal prism]

More speed, missions are completed faster

[primal ibex]

Isnthis good or bad

Mr8 running on gauss weapon platform

[fair warren]

Hello, everyone. Looking for kind advice. I play as sevagoth prime. I always seem to run out of energy, please help.

[tidal parrot]

what does your build look like?

[fair warren]

My gaming phone is currently off right now. Would you mind if i can screenshot and ping you tomorrow?

[midnight horizon]

any synergy i can run with this?

[abstract axle]

drop the crit mods, you have a 6% crit chance, so you have a 2% chance of slash, so munitions out too

[fair warren]

What are galvanised mods and how does one acquire them?

[tidal parrot]

thats fine, if you remember roughly what your build is that works as well

[abstract axle]

they are different but mostly better versions of existing mods, sold by arbiters of hexis for doing arbitrations

[tidal parrot]

you get them via arbiters of hexis through a vendor (not affected by your chosen syndicates) with vitus essence which you get from arbitrations

[fair warren]

Arbitrations? Does that not requires a mastery rank 30?

[eternal prism]

no

[tidal parrot]

no it does not

im not 100% sure about the boid cascade stuff but it tends to be something like interception, defence (with a target you have to protect) and survival from what i recall

[fierce lark]

you can get every endless mission type

including defection, cascade, flood and salvage

they just come around very infrequently because there's 3 defection nodes and only 1 of the others

[undone dust]

cascade and flood arent in the arbi mission pool

[fierce lark]

they are according to the arbi schedule on browse.wf

[fair warren]

I cannot see myself playing arbitration missions, it shows me that i need to be MR 20 or 30 for them.

[undone dust]

wtf

[fierce lark]

but they all suck

[brittle sleet]

Might be misreading, or mistaking that your gear needs to be rank 30, not you as a player

[primal ibex]

Wdym 6% crit chance it says 180

[fierce lark]

you're looking at someone else's nataruk screenshot

not your own cedo lol

[primal ibex]

I'm a dumbass

[brittle sleet]

Far from the dumbest thing people have done in this channel

[primal ibex]

But my cedo still got 60% crit chance

The one he saw was the glaive that applies status chance

[brittle sleet]

Yeah 60% sounds right

[fierce lark]

yeah that's not a helpful part of the stat screen to show, nobody really uses base cedo so we don't know the stats off hand

[primal ibex]

Now it's a right picture

Is this good anyone here have used cedo before

[primal ibex]

Ouwh

[fierce lark]

cedo prime is one of the strongest weapons you can get, idk how much worse the base one is

[brittle sleet]

Hunter Munitions is still not that good sadly

Base Cedo is still damn good

[primal ibex]

Oh I added it for the slash dmge ye my cedo doesn't even crit lol no matter how many status I apply

I thought it'll do good against shield

I should remove it ig

[fierce lark]

hm is just bad most of the time

slash status is weak

[eternal prism]

but before... slash was the cutest...

[fierce lark]

viral + heat, viral + primed elec, or corro + heat/primed cold with external viral

[wooden nimbus]

Thoughts on Acid Shells Sobek w/ Xata's Whisper on Nyx?

[fierce lark]

or honestly you could probably go raw corrosive/viral on base cedo with a mag mod, status application is extremely poor to run a dot element

[wooden nimbus]

The answer is, it's fine. Her kit is pretty built as room nuke usually with her 4, so the playstyle is less efficient, but works in sp as a weapon platform.

[novel bear]

Best components for a balla zaw?

[random oasis]

is this worth anything?

[mighty flare]

Peye + Vargeet II Jai, use Pointed Wind

[lean tendon]

Scoliosis riven is wild

[deep grotto]

Not like it’s not useful
Saw 2 slash stacks obliterate an acolyte healthbar

[jovial flax]

is it worth replacing any of my mods with this?

[fierce lark]

charged shell

[wooden nimbus]

why are you building crit on sobek

[jovial flax]

initial hit

[jovial flax]

ill give this a try

[near vortex]

For what frame

[fierce lark]

point blank should be galv savvy as well, first shot will almost always apply at least 2 statuses and often 3

the minerva in the background tells me saryn

[jovial flax]

Saryn

[wooden nimbus]

what an interesting setup for saryn

[near vortex]

why are we running primed charged shell and chilling grasp

[fierce lark]

if you want you can drop primed ravage for elementalist or bane and run primary blight for cd

[wooden nimbus]

why not viral heat w/ her 3 as toxic using primary blight?

[near vortex]

where is contagious spread

[near vortex]

You'd rather pure viral

Heat is kinda pointless

[jovial flax]

idk i ran out of space

[fierce lark]

oh, yeah, swap cd for 90 tox

[near vortex]

Mod tox and valence cold

[near vortex]

Take off primed elementals

No point on Saryn

And where is your clip delegation? Haven't picked it up from Nightwave yet?

[fierce lark]

modded elemental dmg calculates into acid lash dot

[jovial flax]

nah i just didnt feel like i needed clip delegation

[wooden nimbus]

this is what I use for my non-saryn, I just switch out the arcane to blight for saryn

[bold warren]

Okay can I get some help making a good early game Koumei/Furis/Amanata/Higasa Build please?

[near vortex]

you know what I feel like you don't need
You don't need magnetic toxin Sobek when you could use those slots for better things and one slot Viral

[near vortex]

Triple augment is very based

[mighty flare]

you can use whatever you want in the other slots, entirely preference pick
you run cold progen with roar & shards to save slots

[wooden nimbus]

_> I really like the sobek augs

[bold warren]

Please

[near vortex]

Scattering Justice is just worse than other things you could slot there tbh

[jovial flax]

well to be fair i dont reallyt need to imrpove it any further lul. everything alraedy dies. i just want higher numbers because it tickles my brain

[near vortex]

Crux is giving you so much stats that the Aug is a drop in the bucket

[near vortex]

If you want higher numbers you should mod viral

Not magnetic or whatever your current setup has you at

[eternal prism]

I can only give furis (if u not have combo stick use enervate over outburst). there's no need to come up with anything for koumei. Just give her an augment

[wooden nimbus]

True, but the status is surprisingly nice since my riven doesn't have it; I guess it only adds ~13% sc to the weapon itself, but if I was gonna replace something it'd probably be scattering inferno

[bold warren]

Eh it just feels pretty awkward doing her Decrees on Console so I kinda wanna build a Koumei which can kill stuff cause most enemies feel like they are dead before Koumei can get her decrees going

Also how does one build Diriga

[bold warren]

When I say early game, I mean no primed mods or nothing

[eternal prism]

if u mean like caster...I can suggest trying this one for koumei. u can swap molt if u want

[eternal prism]

just put not prime

[fierce lark]

early game = no incarnon = furis is garbage

[near vortex]

amanata is pretty cool

[fierce lark]

get the higasa serration mod from the pearl vendor and use that until steel path, probably kills anything just by sheer damage

[near vortex]

You have to be steel path to get it

[fierce lark]

oh ffs

[near vortex]

yeah

[fierce lark]

buy it for like 40p ez fix

[bold warren]

I’m so confused on what the hell to do then

[eternal prism]

a lot :/

like 2 zaku sets

[fierce lark]

use something you got (and hopefully didn't sell) from a quest somewhere

xoris, thornbak, higasa/amanata are fine-ish if you already put catalysts on them

[undone dust]

just get xoris and turn your brain off or something

[near vortex]

Play around with mods a bit
Get an understanding of the system from experimentation

[bold warren]

I wanna make a good Koumei Build but IDK how when I don’t know what mods and stuff to run is all.

[bold warren]

I HATE THE XORIS

[fierce lark]

why exactly?

[undone dust]

too bad buddy
conform to societal norms

[near vortex]

I recommend experimenting a bit and learning the modding system yourself

Lest you ask how to build a weapon or frame every time you acquire a new one

Can't go wrong with the good old melee damage crit stats and status

[bold warren]

Glaives don’t gel well with me

[violet silo]

bad

[random oasis]

i dont think is that good right

[lean tendon]

Just use it until you reach a certain point where you have a better weapon/reach SP then ditch it

[primal ibex]

How to improve

[lean tendon]

Limiting your options is just bad

[primal ibex]

Okayyy

[violet silo]

take off crit mods and point blank

[primal ibex]

Then?

Replace them w

[fierce lark]

i think we already talked about the cedo

[bold warren]

I’m trying but I’m outta potatoes, I wanna get better feeling guns that don’t feel so useless etc ya know?

[violet silo]

shredder and hunter munitions should go as well

[violet silo]

did we

ok then trust their advice

[fierce lark]

we did, unfortunately i got distracted by someone trying to make hunter munitions a thing again and forgot to mention shredder

which is extra funny because shredder is a slash mod lul

[violet silo]

overframe 🥰

[lean tendon]

To do that you need to progress. To progress you need to use good loadouts. So yes you need to use Xoris or what are currently the best weapons in your inventory.

[fierce lark]

#builds-discussion message

[lean tendon]

Or you could always just swipe your credit card and remove your F2P status

[violet silo]

anyone with experience and up-to-date info will believe you

[bold warren]

Right and how exactly do I build a Diriga?

[violet silo]

like 5 bond mods and synth deconstruct and arc coil

[fierce lark]

a bunch of mods that come from faction vendors

[violet silo]

rest would be flex ig

[lean tendon]

A bunch of Bond mods from rank 3 Cetus, Fortuna, Necralisk standings

[bold warren]

Oh joy, things I don’t have yet

[lean tendon]

And for weapons probably Tazicor that weapon is GOATed for priming

[fierce lark]

not on diriga