builds-discussion

[hollow scarab]

ic

[abstract axle]

at level cap, a lot of things are worthless, like dr

[eternal prism]

it's more a question of frames... and their balance

weapon still can hit level cap

[abstract axle]

honestly, the damage required at level cap is a lot lower han most people think

[eternal prism]

for demolisher u need 30-50m damage
if with armor 300~m

https://tenor.com/view/cat-slap-orange-cat-slap-orange-cat-slap-bum-chonky-cat-orange-chonker-cat-gif-3305480239079074923

[abstract axle]

if the demo isn't status capped, you can get away with a much smaller amount of heat damage

[hollow scarab]

what are good shrds to put on kullervo?

if im not helminthing his kit

[late hemlock]

Melee shards for the melee frame, pretty self explanatory

[hollow scarab]

like red for crit or like purple

[late hemlock]

Purple, gives you 75% crit damage per shard

[hollow scarab]

mmm... yeah id like that

[eternal prism]

for convenience

I've never understood people who create narrow frames

damage is usually always high and there is no particular point in increasing it even more

[solid delta]

I already did that, I wasnt interested in his kit

[hollow scarab]

tbh i just slapped 2 purple melee shards cuz i had them, 1 red for secondary crit just to make my pistol hit harder, 1 ability str, and a parkour velocity cuz i get that yes all purple crit will make him basically 1 shot anything but then everything else feels dry

[eternal prism]

I wish there were 3 parkours and 2 speed casts

https://tenor.com/view/cat-slap-orange-cat-slap-orange-cat-slap-bum-chonky-cat-orange-chonker-cat-gif-3305480239079074923

[hollow scarab]

i may be a smooth brain melee spammer but i do actually like using my pisol and AR

[hollow scarab]

lol

[eternal prism]

its my mirage...

[hollow scarab]

https://giphy.com/gifs/marvelstudios-running-makkari-lauren-ridloff-FMICn6B1P0rwB3ehP4

[solid delta]

When I make a loadout I only use a single weapon

[hollow scarab]

put that on a volt

[solid delta]

the others are just there for some utility

[hollow scarab]

yeah i like actually being able to do damage with basically any part of my loadout. otherwise it feels too narrow

would yall call this a good velox prime build?

[solid delta]

yeah, its good

I think theres like 20 more pistols that use this exact same build

[hollow scarab]

i feel like thats true for most of the automatic shit

[eternal prism]

remove fire mod

[solid delta]

this isnt gonna replace primed heated charge son 😭

[eternal prism]

It will replace it because it deals more damage and doesn't stack with other statuses.

If you want to use fire in your sec weapon, you don't have to install it as a mod

You can use a magnet mod which will give you much more

• status + crit

[solid delta]

id rather have more dmg from my heat procs thx

and usability outside of edurance missions

[eternal prism]

arcana gives 250%
mod 165

🥺

[eternal prism]

in this case, there will be enough damage without it

Why do u need big fire procs if the mobs are basically one-shotted?

[solid delta]

okay? and the mod would be enough without the arcane

🤔 youre not making any sense

[eternal prism]

but in the current state of tauron this is the only arcana that is used in operator

You'll get more damage anyway if you equip a magnet mod instead

[solid delta]

it doesnt mean you gotta hop into operator form and kill 100+ enemies each time??? when are you actually doing that outside very long void cascade runs

[eternal prism]

u not need kill 10 enemies

[solid delta]

10 enemies is 24%

[late hemlock]

In most missions you arent even getting to tauron strike, let alone build it up to the point where its replacing prime heated charge lol

[eternal prism]

yes an it more then enought for not long mission

[eternal prism]

u can kill by operator

not need strike

[late hemlock]

How many kills are you going to get with the operator each mission?

This is just a bonus not a primary source of damage

[solid delta]

then the heat mod will perform better, there is no way the magnetic mod can outdo this. Also 24% means very little heat status chance

[eternal prism]

If you don't look at the captures, then it's somewhere around 39%~

defense or etc

[solid delta]

thats still worse than a 60/60 mod

[late hemlock]

39% heat is pretty pathetic compared to just running a mod

[eternal prism]

Yes, but in the case where you want more damage, any damage mod other than fire will give more.

like magnet mod it give u + status for co mod

[solid delta]

not only you have less chance to proc heat status overall but magnetic also gets added into the equation

[eternal prism]

for pistols it + 120% damage

[late hemlock]

Your status chance is gonna be so abysmal heat isnt procing unless its super high firerate + status

Frankly if you have fun going into operator and attempting to build it up each mission you do you

[eternal prism]

I've been using it for a long time and have adapted my builds for this mystifier for a long time now, and the weapon damage has become higher. So it's still better than using a fire mod

[solid delta]

wrong one extra status only adds 40% direct damage

[eternal prism]

stack co mod

it have 3 stacks

120 per status

[solid delta]

its 40 per status stacking up to 120 at 3 stacks

[eternal prism]

You don't stack co mod or what are you talking about

just kill 3 enemies

[solid delta]

[eternal prism]

We're talking about short missions... like defense or survival. People usually only last about 30 minutes. Besides, it's usually a team mission, and there's already an abundance of team buffs. The question is, why bother using a mod that's currently unnecessary?
If I go to lvlcap I will always have 250%

[late hemlock]

In endurance I absolutely agree that this arcane replaces a heat mod

[eternal prism]

It doesn't overpower other statuses much
what would happen if I installed both arcana and mod together

[late hemlock]

But the vast majority of content you won't be bothering to get enough operator kills for this arcane to outweigh a primed mod

[eternal prism]

If you want to run fast missions like captures on something like akkarius, then you'll usually get enough damage without it

[late hemlock]

Sure i can run missions with an empty mod slot as well

Doesn't mean I will?

[eternal prism]

Quick missions have their own weapon types, and they usually don't require a fire mod

[solid delta]

okay so

he's even running bane mods on the weapon

[eternal prism]

You can simply use a more useful mod that can give damage here and now instead of waiting for the fire ticks

[solid delta]

if you dont use the primed heat mod youre wasting another mod slot

[eternal prism]

Sometimes

[late hemlock]

Even if its not about the ticks its still 165% damage, why would I not run it

[eternal prism]

If there are conditionally broken mechanics of tripled statuses for certain frames like oraxia

[solid delta]

yeah, he can use primed convulsion, which is the same thing but the dot ticks are instant

165% damage too

[eternal prism]

Why not use the magnet mod that many people ignore? It gives both crit and 60% damage

There are actually a lot of options, but for now I'd ignore the fire mod

[hollow scarab]

is the vadarya prime good?

[eternal prism]

Not very good due to the low status chance and low synergy of riven

[lean tendon]

Primed Heated Charge is great though. 165% heat damage is high. For shorter missions and endurance missions you immediately get value from using the mod round start. For bosses, Primed Heated Charge also gets immediate value whereas you most likely do not have enough or won't even have enemies to kill to stack up the arcane when fighting a boss.

It's definitely not a waste of a mod slot and is better overall just for immediate value because there's no conditions that needs to be met (if you don't consider status chance as a condition).

[fierce lark]

we don’t care that much about the word being heat

we care about the number saying 165%

same reason almost every rifle runs primed cryo even though it negatively affects weightings

and part of what makes corrocold so good

[lean tendon]

To be fair Zid An Uskos is 250% heat damage It's just that immediate value is preferred over conditionals or if it's conditional it should be ezpz to do like CO or Galvanized Mods.

Would rather have 165% heat damage immediately on round start instead of 250% heat damage later.

[eternal prism]

it give u + status = 120% damage from co
and u can put another mod with damage

if even heat from arcane 20% it give a lot

[lean tendon]

But the conditions are not good for general play

[near vortex]

primed toxin and heat mods for archguns suddenly make Viral Heat insta lock for archguns

[fierce lark]

it's not even good for endurance tbh

[lean tendon]

It's a good bonus but you won't be dropping Primed Heated Charge because of it

[eternal prism]

I still don't understand why you need an instant benefit if you can kill 10 enemies and this buff will last you until the end of the game
For fast missions, you'll have enough damage even without 165%

[fierce lark]

im not gonna spend the first 5-10 minutes of my endurance mission being forced to play operator just to make my secondary kill lvlcap enemies 0.02 seconds faster

[near vortex]

osbok is right there

[fierce lark]

even if im playing pistols id probably rather have the utility of 30 seconds perma invis after hitting tauron

[eternal prism]

another question. why u spen 10 min for stack it

[fierce lark]

or that one

[lean tendon]

You need 105 kills to cap as an operator which is not that good of a condition. Sure with Thauron Strike meta it is doable but for general play (short missions, endurance, bosses) you want immediate cashout value.

[eternal prism]

Why can't you do this between rotation updates, for example, or just not press tauron strike sometimes?

[eternal prism]

u not need cap buff btw

enough even 40%

[fierce lark]

unless you're soloing, it's probably gonna take awhile to hit 250%

and while im not overly familiar with the lvlcap community, the fact there's a community at all makes me think that most of them do their runs in squads over solo

[lean tendon]

You also need to invest in your Operator which most players don't do already. Would an average wf player invest on Primed Heated Charge and be good on all contents or don't use it and rely on Zid An Uskos but also need to invest time and resources on your Operator?

[fierce lark]

why would you not

[eternal prism]

because basically even status weapons will kill even with 40%

[mighty flare]

It’s okay

[eternal prism]

it just gives you an extra 120 damage from co

and free slot

[near vortex]

just put the Zid-an Osbok in the bag bro

[lean tendon]

If you're not even trying to surpass 165% then there's no point. Even regular Heated Charge is 90%.

[fierce lark]

if you're doing heavy endurance, your operator is probably already invested i would hope

just for last gasp

[eternal prism]

You're not taking into account co, which is used in almost every build

[fierce lark]

on top of needing it for cascade/flood

[lean tendon]

Well I have seen enough people in endurance runs with peashooter operator

[fierce lark]

the extra CO damage really isn't doing that much, assuming you're running cascadia flare which most people are

[lean tendon]

And you think CO isn't used in Primed Heated Charge? Xd

[fierce lark]

on most secondaries

[near vortex]

as long as you have Madurai you can kill stuff at cap

[eternal prism]

useless arcana, really. There are stronger arcana

I won't say why, but co almost always gives more

[lean tendon]

Primed Heated Charge will almost always be better most of the time. Zid an Uskos is a welcoming damage buff but you're not playing for it.

[fierce lark]

it's the same damage bonus as galv shot with 4 statuses, and it may as well be non-conditional

calling it useless is actually insane

[eternal prism]

I just suggested to someone what would be better in terms of efficiency. I didn't force anyone to use it this way

[eternal prism]

yes for sec weapon u can hit more then 4 status

[acoustic bluff]

Don’t even need madurai

[lean tendon]

Well being better in terms of efficiency is wrong

[acoustic bluff]

Oh wait

[eternal prism]

not need madurai already

[acoustic bluff]

Nvm I was thinking thrax

[fierce lark]

you do if your amp and operator sucks

[eternal prism]

In general, even the grineer die without madurai

[fierce lark]

123 amp with no tauron no madurai does not easily kill steel path grineer

[near vortex]

yeah if you have a good amp and the Tektolyst artifacts you don't need Madurai for endurance

[acoustic bluff]

Yeah ts can be a chore tho if you’re unlucky without it

[eternal prism]

After adding tauron, the operator became too strong and useful and made the secondary weapon even stronger

[acoustic bluff]

I just use zen now

[acoustic bluff]

I’m so cascade rotted mb

[eternal prism]

And in general, using the operator's arcana is up to each individual. But if you focus on efficiency, it's much more useful than simply using a fire mod

[eternal prism]

disruption more cute

[fierce lark]

i spent the entirety of my early-midgame on a 123 amp in madurai and even that was difficult to proc last gasp in steel path without using void strike

[eternal prism]

i love demolishers

[fierce lark]

no madurai bad amp without tauron is useless

[acoustic bluff]

🥀

Disruption actual fall asleep the gamemode

[fierce lark]

wait till follie

[near vortex]

1x7 pretty playable

[acoustic bluff]

Nah tbh I wanna do disruption speeds

[near vortex]

Just get headshots

[acoustic bluff]

Idgaf about that update, I’m buying her bundle and subsuming her prob

[fierce lark]

when it has 7 brace it stops being a bad amp xd

[acoustic bluff]

Unless she’s got some niche stuff

Tesh

[fierce lark]

she is going to single-handedly massacre speedruns for several gamemodes

[eternal prism]

There are plenty of guides on this now... so it doesn't make much of a difference
Even excluding the fact that people are still asking me what this secret amp is on the сircuit

[acoustic bluff]

the humble 547

[eternal prism]

I love it when mobs pick and then explode loudly

[lean tendon]

147 gang 🗣️ 🔥

[fierce lark]

why would anyone ask about your circuit amp lol there's no reason to even use it

[acoustic bluff]

depends, I’m pretty sure keys aren’t even an issue in disruption speeds tho

I can’t remember

[eternal prism]

amp solo in circuit in afk mod

u can just press 1 button

[acoustic bluff]

But tbf insta spawning them is broken

[eternal prism]

and relax

[fierce lark]

yeah but being able to simply spawn keys in the mission is going to break the game beyond anything that currently exists

[eternal prism]

cuz it nuke whole map

I didn't believe it myself until a friend showed me this... Now I only go there like that

[lean tendon]

It's literally just the glaive for circuit

No secret amp whatsoever

[acoustic bluff]

Eh

We’ll see when it drops

I’m waiting for Pablo to make the “nerf” right before it drops

Or it not working the way we think

[eternal prism]

yes
But many people don't know about it, judging by my observations, and ask what it is, trying to find the best equipment for this mode.

[lean tendon]

Because average WF dont even touch operator

[eternal prism]

maybe

[lean tendon]

Not maybe

WF is not 90% sweats 10% casuals

[acoustic bluff]

I’d say maybe

[lean tendon]

Its the other way around, maybe the % are over exaggerating but casual player base is bigger than the sweats

[eternal prism]

This doesn't stop people from understanding mechanics.
People like to learn new things in their droves

[lean tendon]

And most players don't even want to touch Quills or Vox Solaris because of Eidolon hunting and Profit Taker

[eternal prism]

So, don't call everyone casual. It sounds insulting, to say the least

[lean tendon]

I didn't say anything about stopping people to learn

[eternal prism]

Casuals usually don't want to learn and just play the game

for fun and vibe

[lean tendon]

Casuals do want to learn but its not their priority

[fierce lark]

brother everyone calls themselves casual lol

the vast majority of all gamers on all games self-identify as casual

[acoustic bluff]

I’d say this is questionable to say the least 🥀

[coral crest]

Competitive warframe players

What are they even doing?

[acoustic bluff]

Sleeping

Or banned

[lean tendon]

Why do you think new players are asking in #1197322290166251680 all the time? Casuals or not, they still want to learn and explore the game it's just that for casuals they won't use almost all their time testing stuff and prefer to hop on to missions.

[fierce lark]

disruption cap speedrun spam

[coral crest]

Follie stack disruption meta

[acoustic bluff]

You genuinely said the most niche one

[eternal prism]

I don't follow this channe

[coral crest]

It's so over

[fierce lark]

im ready for the phallie meta

[acoustic bluff]

I’m curious how fast if it does, disruption will get

[eternal prism]

no pls....

[acoustic bluff]

I swear wr on some maps are like 34 mins

[coral crest]

Little Duck saying "what the balls" was prophetic

[lean tendon]

You don't need to follow or check inside, you will see it's always highlighted in the channel bar so that means it's active.

[acoustic bluff]

I find it funny disruption is the fastest gamemode to level cap

Even though everyone thinks it’s cascade

[coral crest]

I thought it's the steel path circuit

[acoustic bluff]

is this information legit

[eternal prism]

cooldown there. If it can't be reduced in any way, then I don't think it will make much of a difference
In any case, it would be interesting to see

[near vortex]

Circuit is fast but decrees make it piss easy

[coral crest]

I'm pretty sure if the mode rotation isn't too forcibly slow

You can reach cap in sp circuit in less than an hour

[acoustic bluff]

That’s what I’m thinking

[acoustic bluff]

https://youtu.be/5S4gQwVw5aE?is=ZVBKr-RGatP_-0kx

[eternal prism]

unfortunately, I don't speak english well, and I'm not really interested in english servers. I visit them sometimes to chat

[coral crest]

...Fair enough

[acoustic bluff]

I was surprised too tbh

[eternal prism]

so this still doesn't change my words that I don't follow channel

[acoustic bluff]

That’s why I was curious if Follie really gonna change much lol

[lean tendon]

Again, you don't really need to follow or check inside to see if a channel is active or not

[fierce lark]

i think it's actually base circuit lol

or well base circuit is faster than steel path for some reason

[acoustic bluff]

Gang

[eternal prism]

no circuit pls

i hate this game mod

[acoustic bluff]

Circuit hell vs cascade heaven

[mighty flare]

Disruption purgatory (Omnia when DE)

[eternal prism]

It takes so much time to do the same type of actions that I'm too lazy to do it

[acoustic bluff]

Archgun disruption cap when?

[acoustic bluff]

When they added the option to buy with platinum I think a tear shed down my cheek

[eternal prism]

today

[eternal prism]

u can buy genesis for plat

120 per genesis

[mighty flare]

Like yesterday?

[acoustic bluff]

My goat did one?

[mighty flare]

Disruption got hella easy, it’s not that difficult to make demo killers anymore

[acoustic bluff]

Fair enough

[dense gate]

Do Nekros summons count as summons for the sake of mods?

[mighty flare]

Yes

[vagrant whale]

I heard the burston incarnon is a headshot build, kinda hard in controller/mobile controls. Is the torid a good alternative?

[lean tendon]

Burston is either multishot build or acuity build. Multishot build is more forgiving than acuity.

Acuity = you want purely headshots because you don't have multishot modifier and you will rely on Primary Acuity for insane damage

Multishot = you want to aim for the head as much as possible but you're still gonna do good damage even if you body shot due to multishot

Yes, Torid Incarnon is point and hold click braindead gameplay. Kuva Nukor is the same. Chain beam weapons are for you if you want no proper aiming needed.

[vagrant whale]

Ty

[quartz bridge]

Should I replace my two corrosive stack shards on my nokko for the toxin dmg stat? I use archon continuity for refrence

[mighty flare]

Yes

[quartz bridge]

Explain?

[fierce lark]

virgin cap demo meets the chad larkspur

[eternal prism]

Less armor = toxin hits harder

and it's like a multiplicative stat
If I'm not mistaken, if for toxin damage

[quartz bridge]

If thats the i should keep the corrosive stack shards?

[eternal prism]

u can use 1 tau coros shard if need

but there is no need for that in reality

[quartz bridge]

But why not armor strip?

[eternal prism]

Nokko deals a lot of damage anyway

[quartz bridge]

2 is needed

[eternal prism]

Takes up more slots. The remaining armor is very minimal

[mighty flare]

Corro shards not good on Nokko cuz nothing should live to even 10

[fierce lark]

you don't need 100% armor strip, you really don't even need 98% it's just something to do with your shards, most enemies aren't going to see 10 stacks anyway

[eternal prism]

If you want to see the full armor strip, you can leave it

[eternal prism]

Nokko already has too much damage, but if you really want you can use it

I'm not very familiar with nokko because I hardly played it, I'm just saying that there's a lot of damage there anyway even without tox/corr shards

[quartz bridge]

So replace them with the toxin dmg variant?

[eternal prism]

u can

but if you use a weapon with corrosion tau shard is not that bad for getting more damage

[midnight horizon]

Actually you can make Torid a non point and click because that's usually the Incarnon form

I use Torid with the Incarnon but not in the Incarnon Form... Making it harder and Challenging and making it fun too

[eternal prism]

rely on your preference and loadout

[midnight horizon]

Hell a corrosive armor strip or heat armor strip is enough hahahah

[quartz bridge]

Pk so I'll replace em

[fierce lark]

idk who besides saryn and hydroid is ever getting enough corrosive stacks for shards to do anything

[eternal prism]

Sarina is too strong for those who want to speedrun level caps.
I don't like her for that. She's just... not interesting?

[midnight horizon]

Inaros 4

[lean tendon]

Ofc you can and so are many other weapons with different builds and playstyle. I just default to giving the most common builds.

[quartz bridge]

Lavos with valence fusion, cyte 09 corrosive infusion

[midnight horizon]

Ah right, then yup I agree on that hahahah

[eternal prism]

Lavos is for nuking the map, not making it a platform😭

[midnight horizon]

Him as a platform / nuke works sooo well tbh

[eternal prism]

I liked it when I was a neophyte and used wisp skill on him and pressed the ult

I got a lot of positive emotions when the glowing thing did a lot of damage🥺

[quartz bridge]

Lavos can really only nuke the map well if he uses cedo, even with his 2 I dont see that many kills when I use his 4 without cedo

[eternal prism]

just use 3+4+1

its fun

im not like cedo so... played a lot of time without it

[fierce lark]

in theory yes but in practice you’re never infusing these elements onto their guns

i think caster lavos does strip with corrosive 2 but he really doesn’t need shards, he has heat on top of it

[lament bison]

Any mesa prime builds that dont need a primer fr

[karmic badger]

Replace galvanized shot with hornet strike?

[novel bear]

Or just use a hound

[fierce lark]

gshot will have hornet strike beat likely after 3-4 trigger pulls

[karmic badger]

Nautilus wirh tazicor, diriga, panzer vulpaphyla, crew mate with a nukor, etc

[fierce lark]

it has 5 statuses to apply and gshot only requires 2

[novel bear]

Mesa also gets base damage from strength

[fierce lark]

or 6

[novel bear]

Instead of multiplicative damage

[lament bison]

Mmm interesting

[fierce lark]

tbh gshot and hornet are probably both ass

but the replacement for them is primed expel and meh

[novel bear]

Mesa doesn’t need a primer until pretty high levels anyways
Is this for endurance?

[lament bison]

honestly idek i was trying to help a friend he was just asking about if there a build that dont need a primer so i just told him go to overframe fr

[gaunt star]

What'd be recommended for the last mod slot?
Status damage?

[fierce lark]

fire rate probably

bigger heat mod instead of thermite and bane/elementalist instead of radiation

assuming this is dps verglas not primer

[mighty flare]

Gshot is very good

Equivalent to several strength mods

[fierce lark]

even if you're running flare?

[craggy niche]

WATCH ya'll think of my totally not memeing but i'm memeing ivara build

[mighty flare]

Yeah

With gshot you don’t really need flare tbh

[fierce idol]

Are there any secondary that strips armor?

[velvet pulsar]

Grimoire

[midnight horizon]

How well does it strip armor

[velvet pulsar]

Look at the tome mod and judge it

[midnight horizon]

Oh the tome mods.........

Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[lean tendon]

Anyone have a Mausolon build?

[mighty flare]

for pt? or like eta/general

[lean tendon]

ye for eta

2 weeks in a row bad rng

I could also prob try and grind Arbucep

[velvet pulsar]

Enjoy boosted mushroom

[mighty flare]

heres mauso & arbucep

arbucep burns through ammo surprisingly fast, crux helps but replaceable for mercs

[velvet pulsar]

If companion slot is flexible, use sahasa kubrow

[lean tendon]

thanks

ill prob try and grind the arbucep today

I need to progress my syndicate rank anyways

[velvet pulsar]

How does one headshot with arbucep though?

How is it procing crux?

[craggy niche]

yo what the hellll

how have i slept on concentrated arrow, it got a buff in sept

[fierce lark]

im running flare mostly bc i don’t have a maxed fortifier

[velvet pulsar]

Pair it with Well of Life

[fierce lark]

but im ehp tanking as is so id happily take fortifier if/when i have it

[velvet pulsar]

BTW Concentration Arrow is now LoS nuke.

Earlier it used to be non-LoS

[craggy niche]

i just 5 formad a vadarya

[mighty flare]

just aim slightly up

[craggy niche]

what a waste lol

don't get me wrong it's fun but that concentrated arrow shit looks INSANE

[mighty flare]

fort works even if not maxxed
mesa really likes it

[velvet pulsar]

Overguard tanking isn't a thing on mesa anyway

Unless her 3 affects overguard

[mighty flare]

you could also necramech cheese to avoid ammo issues too

[mighty flare]

it just triggers it

[velvet pulsar]

Oh her 3 triggers fortifier?
Makes sense

[novel bear]

Overguard tanking is a thing on any frame with a secondary

[fierce lark]

or any frame that doesn’t lock both arcane slots

[velvet pulsar]

U r mixing up tanking & gating

[fierce lark]

you equip circumvent and “overguard tank” everything up to lvl 1k ish

[novel bear]

Oh, well then no frame can really overguard tank past a certain point

[velvet pulsar]

There's one...

Atleast one

[novel bear]

If 15000 isn’t enough, 100k probably isn’t either

[velvet pulsar]

But that's a bug so I can't really talk about

[fierce lark]

are you not talking about parasitic rhino

[velvet pulsar]

No and I haven't thought about it yet

[fierce lark]

what does overguard gate even mean in this context

unless your entire white bar is getting 1shot and the immunity is what’s keeping you alive, it’s not really gating

[velvet pulsar]

Exactly

[velvet pulsar]

So this is correct

[fierce lark]

and at least in my experience, you can go to levels close to a thousand with nothing but circumvent+RG+careen and comfortably survive

[velvet pulsar]

After that point if abilities reduce damage taken on overguard, then further

[novel bear]

Think it’s only damage redirection abilities that work on overguard

Yareli, Nezha, Nekros, Nidus, Trinity

[velvet pulsar]

For the most part yes

For one, there's more options

[fierce lark]

kinda weird that shatter shield doesn’t count as redirection

it does reduction but then redirects incoming bullets

[velvet pulsar]

It might be different because "reflect" is not considered same as redirection

[fierce lark]

also it annoys tf out of me that reverse rotorswell literally says redirect damage but it isn’t coded as redirection

[novel bear]

Reflection isn’t redirection

[velvet pulsar]

Like it's coded for projectiles only

[novel bear]

And mod descriptions are always bad

[velvet pulsar]

Similar to how a moa's Stasis Field precept works

[novel bear]

I just treat shatter shield as worse turbulence

[velvet pulsar]

Stasis Field is a better comparison

The 90% slow doesn't apply to hitscan & beams, but the 60% applies to them nonetheless.

Another comparison with Shatter Shield:

This one is AoE though

Cold Ward also reflects

Has anyone ever tested Cold Ward on Mesa along with Shatter Shield to see if we get any buggy results?

[charred sun]

I am still new to the game, but I've made an absolute shredder of a build for my Umbra's exalted blade. It's just heavy attack spam and it clears hallways of enemies consistently up to around level 120. I was just wondering if there were any obvious tweaks or any playstyle changes I should incorporate since I honestly have no Idea what I'm doing

I'm mainly wondering because swapping out focus energy for gladiator might gives me 5x crit damage, but arcane influence then does nothing. Also I have no idea how the combo system works

[eternal prism]

u use augment for ex?

[velvet pulsar]

BTW

[charred sun]

Woah I have never even seen that it looks strong

[velvet pulsar]

Chromatic Blade doesn't affect the heavy attack projectile.

Bugged since the projectile was made.

[eternal prism]

give me sec i give u build

[charred sun]

ok

[eternal prism]

I didn't really look into the numbers, but it should be something like this. When choosing a status in the augment, use electricity.

If someone has already built it, I think he will edit my version a little.

just copy past

[charred sun]

Well I have three of those mods

This'll give me something to farm thank you so much for the help!

[eternal prism]

In the future, if you really like the frame, I recommend playing with the characteristics because this option is not optimized and I would change it a little, but I'm too lazy to figure it out.

[unique brook]

Almost positive this is my current build- it can take up to lvl 130 non sp enemies, but I want to put in the augment and make it steel path viable. Any opinions or recommendations?

I know sol gate itself isnt very viable but I love the ability lol I want to focus my build around it

[cold burrow]

Someone lead me to believe the spellbind from titania was good on chroma. Anyone got a build for that or know anything of it

[woven drift]

Helping my brother out with his new caliban prime, he hasn't got helminth
But any budget builds for caliban prime

[cold burrow]

Imo caliban dosnt need a helminth. Since his augment droped he's become a complete frame. 1 sec

You don't need the archon or even the prime versions btw

Arcane expertise is a flex slot. Camisado is just a fancier molt augmented

[warm obsidian]

What's a good Companion weapon for priming

[velvet pulsar]

Tazicor

Helstrum is a bit slower but works

If u also want IPS (physical damage types), then burst laser prime or prisma.

[warm obsidian]

Oof
all rank 5 Fortuna

[cold burrow]

Tazicor, or if you use diriga with arc coil then lazer rifle prime and just load it up with element mods

[velvet pulsar]

Nah burst laser prime or prisma can get u more advantages compared to laser rifle prime

[fierce lark]

burst laser requires arc coil/coolant leak to be a good primer

else it's just shooting 1 target at a time with pretty mediocre status app

[velvet pulsar]

U do get extra of augur mods & tenacious bond

Other dethcube's weapon does have a high amount of fire rate and spread

[fierce lark]

yeah but atrociously bad status

[weak jasper]

I don't get how people are using the xoris to great effect

Do you throw it and then explode with heavy attack? That requires a combo counter

[nova swift]

correct, but galvanized reflex gives you a bunch of initial combo so you already have a decent heavy attack multiplier

either that or using tennokai to give you free heavy attack explosions

[idle crescent]

How strong is titania prime and her guns? is it good enough to do lvl cap?

[night laurel]

anyome ever tried a 447 amp?

i dont really like 5xx's burst and im branching off to new ventures from 147

[cosmic willow]

i don't know how to make this any stronger, any ideas?

this is the riven mod, not sure what setup for the riven mod i want for synoid gammacor

[warm obsidian]

Anyone has any Soma builds

[midnight horizon]

Go mod less.... And throw it in the trash

(jokes aside, Soma is a crit focused gun, so do, Serration, Galv Chambers/Split Chambers, Crit Delay, VITAL sense and either go Viral+heat elemental and use his augment Hata Satya)

I hate Soma tbh

But since I used it before, might as well tell you what I used about it

[cold burrow]

Imo boltor has basically the same incarnon form but better

[warm obsidian]

Bold of you to assume that I've not been running modless this entire time

[midnight horizon]

A8ght mb mb hahahahah

[warm obsidian]

Augment only works on Prime?

[lavish orbit]

No ??

What makes you think that

[warm obsidian]

I mean the bottom says "Soma Prime"

[coral crest]

Yes, it's only for prime

[lavish orbit]

Ah yes, this one

[wraith sinew]

can someone walk me through building my gauss to survive sp?

[eternal prism]

yes just use aegis + 1/2 mod cd shields

after proc aegis u can stay afk

u can use even lvl 0 aegis

[wraith sinew]

huh

[outer quail]

do yall fw melee careen instead of melee influence

like you build around cold procs

specifically

im tryna have a theme here i just dunno how to spark it into fruition

[urban inlet]

have you completed the silver grove? if yes, get your hands on brief respite and catalyzing shields, you probably will already have both of the Shield Recharge Mods - Fast Deflection and Vigilante Vigor. With this you just need a bit of strength and a good amount of Duration for Redline, maybe fit in the Thermal Transfer augment to buff your weapons, Flow for more energy, and done...

you just need to keep Redline up at all times, use Thermal for Damage Buff and your Battery, Kinetic Plating is easy Damage Reduction.

If there is something you don't understand, just ask.

[urban inlet]

Just subsume wrathful onto Frost, or Condemn on Kullervo and make it a melee weapon platform... pretty fun and i like it because its not something everyone does, i dont have an example rn cuz im at work rn, but i can provide builds when im home if you want.

[midnight horizon]

I mean you can spare the shield recharge mods bc Gauss already have a built in Shield recharge

Brief Respite, Cata and Rolling guard with his 2 always on is sort of enough to survive SP

Well that's my side, like my side of Info

[velvet pulsar]

Condemn on kullervo...

Half of the ability is wasted

[midnight horizon]

I would suggest Wrathful on Volt fr fr hahahah

[velvet pulsar]

Not necessarily

[urban inlet]

i mean condemn counts as freeze and triggers careen.

[midnight horizon]

Oh wait it's for Melee Careen

Mb mb

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah but that doesn't justify subsuming condemn on kullervo

[urban inlet]

why not? because of the shield part of the ability with kullervo?

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah

[lavish orbit]

Careen + Ice Storm

[velvet pulsar]

Ice Storm gets triggered by any animation lock + damage

Includes limbo's 2, gorgon's exclusive mod and atlas petrification

[lavish orbit]

Yeah well Careen works with it if he really want to use it on kullervo

And find a synergy aswell I mean

[velvet pulsar]

I suspect careen follows similar rules so it not only boosts dmg against frozen enemies but also animation locked enemies

[lavish orbit]

Easy to test

[eternal prism]

u not need catal shield and brief respite on gaus

u need only it and no more for survive

You can literally stand afk and never die

[urban inlet]

god forbid i use it.

[still furnace]

Probably do alright on Frost with his augment for extra crit on frozen enemies.

[eternal prism]

You don't have to use it, but you should be aware of broken mechaniс. You can achieve the same thing with vazarin

Because overall, vazarin gives you a Gauss passive. It's a little inconvenient, but it does give you

[tight tusk]

does anyone know if shock trooper actually lets melee influence proc or is it just a ui bug like shock trooper activating from dex pixia electric procs

[eternal prism]

it should

question is rather whether you want to use a helminth for this

[surreal surge]

idk if my build is good for wisp prime so i wanted to ask?

[eternal prism]

adaptation useless. wisp Immortal because invisible and because it's her 2nd skill

[surreal surge]

Oh oki

what should i replace adaptation with

[eternal prism]

I'll give you a hint. You need to optimize your stats so that flowers are useful and you can use your second skill for survivability without any issues

There are many options and it's up to you. The main thing is that it's convenient for you

[hollow plover]

16 forma wht?????

[surreal surge]

is it good our bad?

[eternal prism]

Apparently she really loves wisp

[serene jackal]

anyone mind sharing a beginner sevagoth prime build? thankss

[green gyro]

it's not

dude 16 forma and you have r4/r0 mods and mismatched aura polarity

[hard hull]

Hey guys, do these mods cost any platinum?

[green gyro]

no

like 10p maybe

[hard hull]

Bruh

[green gyro]

if you get a perfect roll on karak it's about 100k plat

but it's expensive because no one ever rolls it

[hard hull]

I'm making relics and I already have 3 warframes, I'm only missing Shaci.

[eternal prism]

You shouldn't say that, I'm more than sure that this is a draft of a build or something like that

[hard hull]

I need 200 platinum coins to get something I really want.

[eternal prism]

In any case, frame builds are usually made for convenience

[green gyro]

what is shaci

also you can't make relics

[hard hull]

Chassi

[green gyro]

not sure what this is meant to mean

[hard hull]

This

[eternal prism]

Well, at least what was on the screen isn't so bad. With the augment, it should even be good

Although I would add a little more range

[hard hull]

I already have 3 Primes warframes, I'm just missing the chassis for all 3.

[green gyro]

it's really bad... the augment is literally r0 as well lol

this is just toxic positivity cause you're not telling them how to fix their build

which I was about to do

[eternal prism]

It doesn't matter if a person simply asked if it could be good

There is nothing stopping from improving all of this

[green gyro]

it's not good, you either don't know whether it is or not OR you're lying to them

[midnight horizon]

How much do you think a Tigris and Daikyu Prime could sell in a Good Roll

[eternal prism]

No, because I think the frame should just be easy to use

And it's convenient

[green gyro]

completely depends on the roll, tigris market is dead tho, and daikyu goes up to like 5-8k on the collector rolls

[green gyro]

this statement literally means nothing

they have useless mods that do nothing and mismatched polarities

[eternal prism]

What difference does it make if it can be upgraded?

[green gyro]

it's literally the point of this channel

just press auto build if you can't deal with learning

some people actually enjoy improving things

[velvet pulsar]

Has anyone ever tested Cold Ward on Mesa along with Shatter Shield to see if we get any buggy results?

[green gyro]

I think cold ward only has cool interactions with nova

[midnight horizon]

Fck.... Guess I'll depend on daikyu

[eternal prism]

If I take any frame right now without a reactor and forms, I'll put 0 level mods there, taking into account that I calculated the stats and ask if he will be good, you will say he is bad, yes

[green gyro]

obviously??

what is the point of a #builds-discussion channel if you can't discuss builds

[velvet pulsar]

You're limiting yourself to YouTube perspective.

[green gyro]

I don't watch any WF youtubers

[eternal prism]

Why am I not discussing this? I gave you a hint on what to pay attention to🥺

[green gyro]

but nah I haven't tried that, maybe it's interesting

[velvet pulsar]

Oh well youtube is what made cold ward nova famous

[eternal prism]

Oh not u

Bad translate :/

[green gyro]

I'd hope so ye

[midnight horizon]

What's a cold ward even

[green gyro]

i saw it in the builds channel in community server a long time ago

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah it became famous during oraxia update

[green gyro]

that channel seems pretty nice rn, people actually have fun discussing improvements instead of toxic positivity

[eternal prism]

In any case, I gave a hint to the person above. I think he'll listen and try to slightly rebuild build

[green gyro]

spinnerex technology

[green gyro]

the build needs like half the mods replaced

[midnight horizon]

What the heck is even happening

[velvet pulsar]

To this day I'm not getting better options than spinnerex

[eternal prism]

have to start learning somewhere

[velvet pulsar]

Cold Elemental Ward

[midnight horizon]

I want to ask about Cedo Prime on how to make my build better but what is happening here

[midnight horizon]

Oh aight

[green gyro]

person posted bad build asking for feedback, I started to give feedback and now this other person is saying that you can't suggest improvements because it's toxic or whatever

and that all builds are valid and good

[eternal prism]

Now reread what I wrote and what advice I gave

[green gyro]

I really don't care sir

[eternal prism]

And don't take information out of thin air

[green gyro]

I hope this is just translation errors

[velvet pulsar]

Alright I'm gonna buy another config for mesa and test cold ward, after a week.

[eternal prism]

Secret build

[midnight horizon]

It depends on the build tbh

I have a saying that: "if it works, don't fix it"

But if the build is very bad like.... Really bad then it's smth to fix

Let me see the build

[velvet pulsar]

I already have yareli plans for this week

[green gyro]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786650853431181342/1479092010169143397/Warframe4086.jpg?ex=69aac747&is=69a975c7&hm=878c069d667db91fedc95a369805fa3d82b025dfc4d51ecf7abdf886232d4ecb&

[eternal prism]

Don't forget to forward what I wrote

[green gyro]

Adaptation does nothing on wisp, energy conversion and augment are r0 and archon continuity doesn't proc

[midnight horizon]

You forward it, I wanna see

[green gyro]

also zero energy economy

[velvet pulsar]

I'm glad this isn't old DE or else I might've been sniped for heavily using a build using more than one major spaghetti 🍝.

[eternal prism]

And a little lower the same

[midnight horizon]

For me in general, it's just bad

Like if I suggest to that person, I wouldn't Adaptation there...... Drop transient fortitude if you can use intensify, idk wisp much to know if those archon mods work, but all I know is that they can drop and swap it with normal version of the mod

[green gyro]

✅

[midnight horizon]

And I agree with you too... Don't worry I'm not picking sides

[mellow nimbus]

in a situation where everything dies in one hit, what would be the best melee for room clearing?

[eternal prism]

fire archont mod should work with augment

[midnight horizon]

Mind explaining?

[velvet pulsar]

Jat Kittag, Dual Ichor, Spinnerex, Okina

[eternal prism]

If I'm not mistaken, 4 skill has 100% fire status

[midnight horizon]

Hate Incarnon. ....
Magistar incarnon....
Dual ichor....

Uhhhhhhhhh

[eternal prism]

I have a friend who built something similar and tested it on lvlcap

[midnight horizon]

OK then if A. Vitality works then it works... They can drop A. continuity and swap it with the normal mod

[velvet pulsar]

Nah when everything is dies in one hit, then AoE melee rather than hate.

Hate is more like small boom boom with high spam

[eternal prism]

In any case, the build is almost working and not too bad if you don't look at the unranked mods

[midnight horizon]

Oh sheesh aigjt

Magistar haahahahahahah

[eternal prism]

It has an idea, but it needs some work. I've already written how exactly.

[midnight horizon]

Unranked mods.... Sure I'll give you that, but they need to swap it out or rank it up

[velvet pulsar]

Exodia Contagion

[eternal prism]

Made a secret build for trinity... Now I need to test it at level cap

[velvet pulsar]

There's also Amalgam Furax Body Count mod for AoE

If u can make it work

[eternal prism]

Purely theoretically, i can stand almost afk

[velvet pulsar]

Trinity enjoyer 🫡

[velvet pulsar]

Link's dmg redirection

[eternal prism]

Nope.I just got around to making a build for it

[eternal prism]

This isn't enough for a level cap, so it still needs to be tested.

[velvet pulsar]

Trinity can now also use Tesla Bank nuke well after vauban rework.

[midnight horizon]

I use Cedo with Tesla Bank and it just nukes them with ease fr fr

Cedo is such a good GUN!

[eternal prism]

There is no need for this because I can take aoe weapons thanks to antistager

[velvet pulsar]

Are u using any subsume?

[midnight horizon]

Who.... Me or Step

[velvet pulsar]

Coz Trinity has 2 buffs for everything

[midnight horizon]

Oh it's step

[eternal prism]

Maybe any platform. Like roar for ogris or akarius

[left mason]

I've been trying to decide on my Mirage build, so far it's what I was comfortable to run with, would you say I throw in Primed Contuinity or Umbral Intensify in last slot?

[eternal prism]

Or xata

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah coz Trinity's 2 or 4 can be affordable subsume slots

Depending on how u alternate them

[eternal prism]

Give me a sec i give u

[left mason]

Energized Munitions is there 'cause I've been on Acceltra fun run and ammo struggles are real.

[velvet pulsar]

Mirage can enjoy more strength

[midnight horizon]

Umm mm what more do I need to improve on my Cedo

[velvet pulsar]

I use shivering contagion

[eternal prism]

You can use something similar if you don't have a sure footed prime

[midnight horizon]

Shivering Contagion?

[eternal prism]

If you want survivability, you'll have to sacrifice a few stats in your build

[velvet pulsar]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Shivering_Contagion

[eternal prism]

I use vazarin and without any mod for sg

[midnight horizon]

Ayo wtf?????

What should I swap with these?

[velvet pulsar]

The alt fire has forced cold procs

[midnight horizon]

Like in my build

[eternal prism]

He seemed weak to me.I tested it for a short time, but it didn't show any funny results.

Maybe I didn't understand something, of course

[velvet pulsar]

U don't need to put that on cedo TBH

IF u equip this on ur companion's weapon rifle, all sources of cold procs, not just ur primary, but everything, will proc this mod

So just one roll of melee careen will spread crazily

[eternal prism]

How nice it is to live in a world where my companion just flies around... And he is a mustachioed wyrm

[midnight horizon]

Aight

[surreal surge]

i am kinda doing something ingame so idk what were said about my build may go up and see later

[eternal prism]

Secret equi build☠️

[velvet pulsar]

The Duality has horrible aim BTW.

Even firing a beam weapon will be spreading everywhere

It can still stack Camisado quite quickly

[eternal prism]

I just give ogris

Ogris like bad aim

[stone garnet]

do we have any nidus mains left in this server

[velvet pulsar]

Likely

[eternal prism]

Come on, you'll be nidus mein

[stone garnet]

i used to be a very long time ago but it’s hard to play him in public matches now

[eternal prism]

Just use the arcana that removes shields

[velvet pulsar]

Nidus is now that frame who uses Arcane Persistence and encourages others to use it too.

And ofcourse squadmates who like high strength.

[eternal prism]

I start mission without mods its enough?

[stone garnet]

no I mean if you don’t get mutation stacks then you’re a sitting duck without the link activated

people love running their nukes so there’s nothing to stack on.. so you either build specifically for energy conservation and stacking or strength to buff, plus the augments he basically needs two or three of

[velvet pulsar]

Does he lose HP boost?

[stone garnet]

if you aren’t linked with parasitic vitality, yes, it drops back down to base hp

[eternal prism]

I wouldn't mind a gameplay where everything is done for me

I like to watch youtube during long missions

[velvet pulsar]

What's the max health your nidus can afford without Parasitic Vitality?

[versed harbor]

idk nidus gets full stacks in like 5 casts if u run the 4 augment

[stone garnet]

that means you have to get the stacks required to USE the 4 though, that’s the problem

[velvet pulsar]

Also I hope u had a look at Arcane Persistence

[stone garnet]

if I could cast it at the beginning of the mission then it would be fine, but the last two abilities are mutation cost, not energy

[stone garnet]

I have persistence

overextended is flex for whatever, augment or stretch or something of the like

[versed harbor]

oh no larva

[stone garnet]

nah, you can get away without it

especially if you don’t use the augment. nautilus, scyotid, etc

[velvet pulsar]

Even Nidus himself isn't using Larva...

[surreal surge]

Oki so what should i replace Adaptation with and transient fortitude

[velvet pulsar]

Surely DE gotta unnerf subsumed larva one day

[surreal surge]

i want alot of damage and survivabilty.

i know my build isent the best but i want to have a good build in the future that can survive steel path

[stone garnet]

I want them to make larva burst base, but that goes back to how many bandaid augments he has

imagine how good he could be if parasitic vitality was base kit and you could run triple umbral on top of that

[velvet pulsar]

So basically Gyre & Xaku situation.

Except Xaku isn't that much in trouble.

[stone garnet]

xaku’s base kit is pretty good for what they want it to do

but nidus needing an augment to stack faster, one for damage, one for survivability (which goes against his passive so I’ll let that one slide) on top of how energy hungry he is if virulence doesn’t hit 4 enemies

[onyx quail]

what do i do with this

im planning to get rhino

[stone garnet]

put dreamer’s bond in the top left slot, it’ll give you some extra mod space

always have something up there

[midnight horizon]

I don't know Wisp much but her 2 makes her invisible I guess???

Invisibility in the game is one of the best survival method and Wisp has that

So swap it with durstion or range

SWAP Transient fortitude into an augur mod...eitger durstion, or range (Augur Reach)

You have one of the best buffs in the game

More health
More ATTACK speed
And I forgot the third

Again, I am not a Wisp user nor I used Wisp, she is not my type of frame but base on what I see here, you need that

There are players here that are reliable in using Wisp than me but that info is just what I get from reading from the other users

[stone garnet]

ypu can double tap her 2 for 3 seconds of invuln

[weak jasper]

total eclipse

[stone garnet]

or send it out in an opposite direction, then breach surge, and both you and the wisp copy will surge

[midnight horizon]

@surreal surge

^

[surreal surge]

Seen it

[quartz field]

if i'm making a non-crit build on laetum, is cascadia empowered or secondary merciless better

[cunning mesa]

Does Galvanized Aptitude work well on the Amprex rifle?

[quartz bridge]

Its not an explosive so It should, only if you have either a primer or debilitate in your arcane slot

[slim cliff]

im running saryn as a weapon platform, and i have 4 as roar should i equip precision intensify or umbral intensify?
with umbral intensify my strength is 199% with precision intensify my strength is 155% but it boosts roar by 90%
and should i run for arcanes: arcane precision and molt augmented OR arcane energize and arcane aegis?

[quartz bridge]

Well itll work better I should say

[late hemlock]

Umbral

As a platform you use 3 and 1 not just roar

As for arcanes the question is super broad it depends on your build and what you wanna do, its not a yes or no answer

[slim cliff]

Ty good sir

[idle crescent]

This is good enough right?

[heavy ore]

Hey, so im pretty new only having 106 minutes in warframe, what would a good build be for newer players, and what would i be looking for later down the line? lets say like mid game.

[idle crescent]

Spam main story until stuck by mastery, grind maps, rank up weapons and frame, continue spam main story until unlock superior free frame & superior free weapon, by then i think you got the basics down, and you just completed tutorial when you reach there

[heavy ore]

Alright, thanks alot never knew anything about this game so it was kinda fun to play through the first bit, i hope that i can come back here one day and say i understand everything about it lol

[idle crescent]

when you hit the said free frame and free weapon, you will unlock a powercreep enuf to carry you thro mid game, you will know when you get there, i shall not spoil any further

[heavy ore]

Alright, again thank you very much, i would not have learned about any of this had i never said anything

[idle crescent]

More importantly, enjoy the lore and story, its gooooodddddddddddddd

[heavy ore]

I will definitely enjoy it, so far its been amazing, i can't wait to see what's next as i continue playing!

[oak kelp]

Anyone here familiar with running Jade at level cap? im kinda lost with people saying i should be using arcane hotshot, molt augment, precision intensify. Im mainly looking to build towards glory's main fire. Can anyone point at the right direction?

[craggy niche]

You can also double dip with the motes ability here

Send out a wisp and tele breach to a mote and both get the range buff

Can cover multiple tiles since it's not los lol

[stone garnet]

yeah, I figured I wasn’t gonna mention it just so they get the basics first though

[craggy niche]

Double tapping 2 also is just free invunerability as well

[craggy niche]

Mine looks like this

There is no strength shards on this build currently

[unkempt mountain]

👍

[fierce lark]

i never found fused reservoir to be worth it

rather have more space to breach surge from

[urban inlet]

guess what

[craggy niche]

I dont like cycling

Wisp can be used defensively but I dont use her for that

[fierce lark]

well it depends largely on the mission you're playing

[craggy niche]

Mote cycling is clunky feeling on top of cycling invul breach surging and everything else id just rather not

[fierce lark]

endurance missions all mostly take part in 1 room at a time

cycling is annoying but a minor one for being able to actually put shock motes in good spots and benefit from archon stretch

[craggy niche]

Plus exilus were never meant to make or break a build, not too concerned about psf with wisp and the gains from the drifts are minimal enough to forget about

[craggy niche]

This makes no sense lol shock literally has like a 15m base radius it gets free procs regardless

By you existing around enemies and having your buffs up

But yeah if I were to use wisp as a solely defensive frame id have a build without it but theres way better stuff for that imo so I don't

[fierce lark]

i dont exist around enemies lol, they should be dying before they can get near me or the buff motes

[craggy niche]

Yes you never come within 21m of a enemy im sure you're just warframe God or something

😂

[fierce lark]

considering wisp is meta for several endgame squad farms, "theres way better stuff for that" is pretty wild to say

[craggy niche]

Strictly for support maybe

For kpm shes pretty shit

[urban inlet]

i mean nuking exists, slap full range onto her 4th with the augment

[coral crest]

squad farms
kpm

[quartz field]

so if i make a volt melee platform, i'd be using wrathful advance on 1 and capacitance for survivability right, and if i want to use viral and heat on my weapon i'd use shocktrooper

[fierce lark]

if you are playing wisp you are choosing to trade reap & sow or 3 different multiplying self buffs for the ability to buff other people, yes

that shouldn't need to be mentioned lol

if all you care about is kpm why are you playing wisp

[craggy niche]

But yeah fused is never a bad or good decision in my opinion, its a exilous so its kinda literally the preference slot. Do whatever you want with your preference slot lol

[fierce lark]

you may notice i said "i never found it to be worth" and i did not say "it's not worth"

[craggy niche]

And if you notice i followed up by stating my preference lol. Not everyrhing has to be a argument, man

[fierce lark]

i think you get a better use out of reservoirs by sticking a health/haste one somewhere near an obj and using the other 4 as motes to cover chokepoints

i literally agreed with you saying it was annoying and followed it up with "i'll take a minor annoyance for being able to use shock motes as best they can"

and your response was "this makes no sense lol"

you turned it into an argument

[urban inlet]

uhh, you also could shieldgate as survivability, you can subsume wrathful onto his 4

[green gyro]

it's worth it for profit taker

that's the only usecase I found for the augment at least

[urban inlet]

something like that

[fierce lark]

that's cause you're probably frequently moving spots and there's nowhere useful to actually put shock motes right

[green gyro]

no, you never move

[quartz field]

alright sick, thanks

[green gyro]

it's because it saves time

you need to get motes and buffed brightbonnets down before 2nd legs

[fierce lark]

oh lul

[urban inlet]

but its on 73% duration if your fine with recasting wrathful fairly often

[urban inlet]

nvm im stupid

was on the wrong build

[quartz field]

wait with narrow minded and cont? 😭

[fierce lark]

wrathful can be cast any time tennokai procs but i would not want to play 73% duration volt in general 💀

[urban inlet]

i mean, its just my ESO nuking setup

[fierce lark]

you use WA for an ESO nuke? 🤔

[urban inlet]

nah

[fierce lark]

forgive me then, this confused me slightly

[weak jasper]

energy nexus?

[urban inlet]

Yes.

[weak jasper]

feel it's a bit eh

what do you run eso for

[urban inlet]

either the Vandal farm - but since i got them now, to forma weapons

[fierce lark]

optimized ESO nukes probably don't get much energy from enemies

too far away for companions to tag

nexus + archon stretch should be enough to spam discharge as much as you're allowed to anyways

[craggy lava]

Idk if this is the right channel to ask this in but does anyone have a good recommendation for a mr 7 player that just returned after like 2 years?

[astral tinsel]

finish junctions to unlock the starchart and get free goodies, work through quests, do arbitrations and buy galvanized mods from the vitus store

[craggy lava]

I already finished most of my starchart

like only the archwing missions are left

[dense belfry]

im prob dumb or what...or i just cant find it
are there stance mods for Garudas Tallons?
im tryna squeeze a couple more mods in and im one slot short without forma

or in this case..what stance of weapons should i look for because i cant seem to find it

[spiral chasm]

isnt the stance slotted in already?

[dense belfry]

nope

[late hemlock]

She uses normal claw stances iirc

[dense belfry]

ah, alright
somehow i never got one, wups

[fickle whale]

Did anybody tested synth charge on Cantera yet? Kinda confused cuz it seems to work only 50/50 in my opinion? Anyways not sure what to switch for, maybe somebody got any idea?

[dense belfry]

227 augur impact

[hollow plover]

what focus school do you use?

[zenith gust]

humans please help meh.,..,,,.

[slim cliff]

im running saryn + occucor build, which praedos build do i pick if i wanna be fast and also to kill acolytes with

[halcyon pollen]

what do you guys think of this build?

[fierce lark]

i wouldn't bother with both flow and rolling guard, molt already cleanses statuses, draws aggro and gives you shieldgate for immunity

if you wanted to go high energy economy you don't need guard imo

[daring summit]

whats a fun/interesting melee to use in a blast based nova loadout. using latron prime inc and lex prim inc for dabigboomsbooms

[rocky mason]

Are you planning to use the melee with all that?

Because there are a few melees who are basically just qol stat sticks if you don't really plan on using your melee

Like the praedos

[daring summit]

i mean, not really i guess. they tend not to survive to melee range, even sped up

[rocky mason]

Praedos gives you parkour speed and sprint speed just by being on your loadout

Coda Hirudo has life steal on crit and can serve as an "oh shit" button to heal yourself

Furax has an amalgam mod that gives you fire rate for secondaries

And all of them - and every melee weapon for that matter - can use the arcane Melee Careen

It makes so when you roll next to enemies you freeze them, free 10 stacks of cold

[rocky mason]

Those are my recommendations

[hidden hull]

this good?

[daring summit]

i assume that does not override cannonade?

[rocky mason]

Nothing overrides cannonade

[daring summit]

dope

i just had to make sure the tak and lug shield throw wouldnt go through nova portals. leaning coda hirudo. thanks for the tips

[viral totem]

Is there any specific character and weapon builds to solo profit taker easily?

[daring summit]

cyte 09s number two gives your weapon exactly which element you want.

[viral totem]

I see, thank you

[daring summit]

not saying that is the answer, just some info

[rocky mason]

I just use dante with tenet glaxion and kuva nukor

And my necramech

[viral totem]

I heard chroma was really good for it and for getting extra credits to

[rocky mason]

Chroma is good just for the credits, not many other reasons

[viral totem]

Oop

[rocky mason]

But do you want to do it for the credits?

[viral totem]

That was a main reason but also because I need gyromag systems for xaku

[rocky mason]

If yes then probably 1999 techrot safe is better to learn

[viral totem]

I'm just laying on 8k creds rn 🙏

[rocky mason]

Ah, you can probably play in public if it's for the gyromag systems

There's always one person or another that can carry

[viral totem]

Fair

[daring summit]

with a cred booster, you can get 400k+ cred in 6min runs with chroma on legacyte harvest.

take a pet that has the 18% chance to double cred pick ups too.

[viral totem]

Alright ill try that cred farm later then thank you!

[daring summit]

to be clear, you need to open the pink chest safe thing while having his 4 active nearby.

thoughts on a blaster build?

[fierce lark]

blast is a little redundant, incarnon form already has an aoe

which is barely shorter range

[daring summit]

i know <evil grin>

meant to be used with gova with limited access lanes to group enemies and boom

[fierce lark]

if you wanted big funny aoe i'd go pure raw dmg and swap galv scope for pfirestorm

[daring summit]

my brain also likes the !!!

[fierce lark]

galv scope is very very weak given the amount of crit you have already

[daring summit]

i assume i need to go google the math of galv scope?

[rich cliff]

Anybody got a good beginner build for volt, and how to get the upgrades?

[rocky mason]

How far into the game are you?

[mighty flare]

Chroma Volt and Mirage are the best

[subtle pivot]

Anyone know what the best dps single target/boss dps archwing gun is. (A build for it as well will be helpful)

[rocky mason]

I like the kuva grattler

It's aoe even but it has nice single target damage

Phaedra too

[mighty flare]

Kuva Grattler and Mausolon

[subtle pivot]

Its not actual kava weapon right? Just the name

[rich cliff]

I have gotten volt to level 30 if thats what you mean?

[rocky mason]

I mean in story quest progression

Or what planet you are if you're early

[rich cliff]

I just got through the mars junction

[rocky mason]

Alright, very early then

[subtle pivot]

Got a pic of a build? Not sure if the velocitus is any decent. If so then I may need mods for it

[rich cliff]

Yeah i started last night

[rocky mason]

Just get as many mods for base stats you can and max them out: intensify, stretch, continuity, equilibrium, flow, fast deflection, streamline

[rich cliff]

Max them out as in upgrade?

[rocky mason]

Yeah, upgrade them to increase the values

At your point in the game you don't need much

[rich cliff]

Okay

[vagrant whale]

I see some players use their amps in circuit instead of their warframe, what are they using specifically the ones that auto targets enemies?

[fierce lark]

the math is you have 4 different sources of + crit chance

so each of them have a relatively minor effect

you could drop critical delay or galv scope entirely and (at least your headshots) wouldn't lose much damage

[rocky mason]

Do you want to know the one that auto target enemies? It's the x4x

[fierce lark]

but also when i mentioned already having aoe i didn't notice acuity, so you probably aren't even spending that much time in incarnon

[rocky mason]

You can get it at rank 4 from the quills

[limpid belfry]

If my exalted weapon deals corrosive will it work with a green archon shard?

Titania for example

[fierce lark]

shards that buff ability damage to corrosive-inflicted?

i believe so, but ive asked the same without getting a straight answer

[craggy niche]

it should

everything else that has those conditions works like that

[limpid belfry]

rightt

[vagrant whale]

What does x4x mean?

[rocky mason]

Amps are modular weapons, made of 3 parts each varying from 1 to 7, you can get the parts 1 to 4 from the quills and 5 to 7 from little duck

[vagrant whale]

Been a while since i played so i forgot all terms in the game other than the easy ones

[rocky mason]

So everytime people say an amp they will say 111 or 147 or 777 or 236

All those are different amps

[vagrant whale]

Yeah i know i just don't know thier specific names

[rocky mason]

x4x just means "any of the first and third type but needs to use the 4 middle one"

[rocky mason]

No one does, you check the wiki for that

[vagrant whale]

I see

[reef forge]

Point out what’s wrong in this image it’s very obvious

[midnight horizon]

I'm still in Highschool so yeah I'm still Unemployed, after school Ill probably go find a job

People be stupid sometimes and just assume

[midnight horizon]

Ohhhhhhh aight

[queen parcel]

anyone got a build for focusing on sevagoths shadow, not a build for the shadow but a build for sevagoth to make the shadow as best can be

[midnight horizon]

There is a guide to it

#1429852785251455016

[queen parcel]

hmmm...the gloom information is out of date

my sevagoth is at 344 strength and it's at 88

[midnight horizon]

Damn you don't need that much XDDDD

190 to 255 is enough

Let me see your build

[midnight horizon]

God damn.... That's..... Hmmmm

[queen parcel]

Obviously its not done, but the idea is its more a temp.platform for the shadows rather then the actual frame I end up using, I already have nuke builds in this game I don't need more even if its a oneshot

[gray valley]

Anyone got a build balancing damage and health? For ember

[queen parcel]

For who?

[midnight horizon]

Damn your Sevagoth suffers a lot in its efficiency

Dura..... Sure? But it's better to be neutral (100%)

Your Sevagoth literally one shots everything and 344 is an over kill HAHAHAHA

[gray valley]

Embur

[midnight horizon]

In this game.... If you have shield then your good

Just abuse the hell out of that shield

Shieldgate

Some people hate it and some people like it

Health tanking is for Frames that tanks for healtg

Inaros
Nidus
Kullervo

Ember doesn't do that....

[queen parcel]

Valkyr and Lavos can also health tank

[queen parcel]

Well sure but again, im not really gonna be using sevagoth much, why do you think precision intensify is there?

[midnight horizon]

I know

Show your shadow build

[queen parcel]

Gimme a sec

[fierce lark]

ember does the same thing as pre-volatile recompense kullervo

except her overguard button generates like 30 per hit instead of 3k

[eternal prism]

We discussed this recently and even 100% is enough there.

[tepid scaffold]

You don't need that much strength

[eternal prism]

Use augment with overguard it should be enough

[midnight horizon]

I should've studied more before I blurt out hahahaha

[tepid scaffold]

Shield gate + OG gate is all you need and want.

Building a health tank on her is a waste of time imo

[eternal prism]

Overguard more then enough

[tepid scaffold]

.5 gate + 1.33s gate = more better and requires only 1 mod

OG might as well be wet tissue paper for defense at higher levels

[tepid scaffold]

So "big number" is meaningless

[queen parcel]

bear in mind it's unranked

[eternal prism]

I've seen a couple of builds, and all they needed was an augment

Without sg

[tepid scaffold]

That's all it runs for the free OG

But with cata and blind rage you also regen your shields.

Easy upgrade.

[midnight horizon]

Damn.... I... Gave up

Hahaha

I don't use Shadow that much as I subsume his 4 before I delete Seva prime before

Ask Sombra

[eternal prism]

You might be right. But I don't really like it when my usability suffers because of something being abused.

On the other hand, catal shields still exist

[dapper glen]

any advice to what skill to put on volt ?

[queen parcel]

the idea is sow and reap to fill death well, activate 3 go to a nice place and use 4 where your 3 will continue to stay active

[eternal prism]

Which one will suit your build

[midnight horizon]

Well I use Seva for nuking befoee

Now I have CC frames bc it's easier and more survivability

[dapper glen]

i dont really know, that the problem x)

[eternal prism]

Use gara nuke🥺

[tepid scaffold]

Thats base seva

But replacing his 4 with roar and using both augments = infinite scaling nuke

[midnight horizon]

Used it before but now? Nahhh

[midnight horizon]

He wants his shadow... Not Seva himself

[eternal prism]

It fun

[midnight horizon]

As I said I use CC frames now

[tepid scaffold]

Nourish + archon stretch = goatd on volt

[tepid scaffold]

If you want to just use a shadow build then go for it

[dapper glen]

i thinked about that
i'm a caster happy, so i can spam my shock with that

thank

[queen parcel]

i already have one shot nuke frames, why would i make more?

[midnight horizon]

That's Just..... Useless energy hahahahah

Nourish is good enough alone
A. Stretch is good enough alone

I suggest Volt to be a Melee frame

Do WA in his 4

[eternal prism]

Volt x nami solo

[tepid scaffold]

Because sevagoth scales all the way to lvl cap with his nuke and it is self propagating all while still leaving seva himself as an absurdly good wep platform

[midnight horizon]

Eh Nukers... If you have one frame to nuke then it's ok

Seva is known to be the Janitor of WF bc of his skills to nuke entire map with ease bc of his Hp%=true

But it's not limited to that, you do what you want tenno ^^

[queen parcel]

shrug

i don't need to do lvl cap tho

[eternal prism]

You don't need it. You were simply told that Sevagot is good at any level

[midnight horizon]

Yeah as I said, just don't mind them hahahaha Sevagoth can clean 90% of the game

He is just telling you how Good Sevagoth is with his nuking capabilities

[near vortex]

level cap pretty plat maxxing grindset though

[eternal prism]

Uriel also kill level cap by nuke

[midnight horizon]

Though I don't use him anymore

I have Vauban for that

[eternal prism]

Nope it just fun

[tepid scaffold]

Not nearly as well or as often

[near vortex]

Cascade fissure pretty goated

[eternal prism]

The main thing is that he can

[midnight horizon]

Oh he can clean easily

Treat him as a caster and you'll be surprised

[midnight horizon]

Fr fr

Hitting 2 birds with one stone

[eternal prism]

But it's pleasant to use

[tepid scaffold]

I am telling you that he can, just not as often or as efficiently as something like sevagoth

[midnight horizon]

Oh well yeah I would agree in some other way

[near vortex]

Sevagoth presses two buttons and the tileset is gone

[midnight horizon]

Fr fr

[near vortex]

uriel has to feed his bar

[tepid scaffold]

And is stuck to the area he nuked

[near vortex]

mhm

[midnight horizon]

Mhm

[tepid scaffold]

Seva can cast 3x and the nuke will chain for 15-20s into entire other rooms

[wild rune]

Uriel has to click his 3 25+ times before he turns one tile into the seventh circle of hell

I do find Brimstone to be more satisfying than Seva's nuke, but it absolutely takes time to recharge

[midnight horizon]

But for level cap (if I were to do... I sometimes do if I do fissure) I use Inaros and Vauban

But if I am super lazy I just hop in with Revenant hahahahahahahahah

Revenant is my cheat frame if I'm superlazy fr fr

[near vortex]

I've done Garuda
she's pretty lazy with Huras invis

[midnight horizon]

Ooof Vauban with Cedo was so satisfying tbh

Pair it with Tesla Bank and you'll get boom booms hahahahah

4 then 1 then alt fire of Cedo and it just erase them

Tested and proven by me hahahahah

[tepid scaffold]

Try oraxia persistence or omamori mirage or gauss

Just as brain = off imho

[midnight horizon]

Hahahah what's wonderful is Omamori Octavia XDDDDD

THAT'S the real afk lvl capper

[tepid scaffold]

Oraxia can stand there for 20-37s before dying, and that's if grace doesn't proc...

[tepid scaffold]

Ew lol

[midnight horizon]

Ew indeed but you cannot agree more hahahahahah

But I use Omamori on Vauban

[tepid scaffold]

Octavia is MAX duration with nourish and no flow/high strength

[near vortex]

I have flow on my Octavia because I did ETA this week

[midnight horizon]

Her 1 alone can clean them off with high range