builds-discussion

[fierce lark]

yeah that's never happening

[gaunt gust]

wdym, i see that all the time on mesa

[fierce lark]

idk what mesa you have built, nothing survives mine for long enough to get 150 fire procs

[night laurel]

you're proccing bullet holes on them before you get them even a smidge warm for sure

[gaunt gust]

have you seen the firerate on mesa

[old marsh]

Fragmented One in EDA & ETA Tank

[gaunt gust]

brother it doesn't matter that each bullet has 10% chance, you're shooting at 100 bullets per sec

[old marsh]

Coz u can’t shoot at it

[fierce lark]

things peacekeeper can't target lmao

[old marsh]

Bingo so u clearly spreading misinformation

[fierce lark]

i have

i've also seen how fast things die

majority of enemies don't live long enough for heat to even deal damage

[lavish orbit]

+1 to Saryn

[severe bough]

U kill them before the fire procs even do smth its only there because it gives the Highest raw dmg

And some armor strip

[fierce lark]

if there was a primed deep freeze and not a primed heated charge, mesa wouldn't run heat

[severe bough]

Tho if the eg had cold instead of fire mod we would use cold

[severe bough]

Exactly

[quiet laurel]

roar mesa dot build tesh

[fierce lark]

or we'd run mag+heat still just to keep up hotshot lol

[severe bough]

Only knowers know

[severe bough]

Would probably be the best choice then tho im happy that we have p heated charge on secondarys

[fierce lark]

still waiting for primed hellfire/stormbringer

[severe bough]

Fr fr

[fierce lark]

make rifles great again

[gaunt gust]

unless you're vs lvl 300+ SP

[quiet laurel]

rifes would be great again if there were interesting weapons that dont suffer from ammo

[cold salmon]

follow up question: would blast + toxin + archon continuity ended up having higher DPS potential? It has 1 less primed elemental mods, but would the blast proc potentially ends up dishing more damage

[gaunt gust]

which is where any of these ultra rare mods factor in to begin with

[fierce lark]

no, even in 300+ SP lol, i have taken mesa to both EDA and ETA multiple times, things melt, especially scaldra

[quiet laurel]

ultra rare archon vitality

0.00001 drop chance from fragmented one I heard

[fierce lark]

on regs? no

[severe bough]

Mesa can easily kill up till lvl cap in secs shes just strong

[fierce lark]

not enough status output for toxblast to be good

and primed convulsion makes mesa want to build for corrosive anyway, blast tox is missing a primed elemental

[gaunt gust]

yeah, not least bit thanks to the fire on your regulators, but you can't sit in there forever, archon vitality maximizes fire procs per sec, which is optimal if you can only sit in regulators for 1-2 sec

[quiet laurel]

its far from optimal

[gaunt gust]

if not for anything else, then for the duration of the fire status

[fierce lark]

the things the fire on regulators is doing is keeping up hotshot and adding a 50% armor melt

[quiet laurel]

cap mesa gameplay is yeeting yourself up, going into 4, shooting, and moving again when you hit the ground or are on shield gate

you have enough raw dmg from regulators

[gaunt gust]

yes, in which case removing archon vitality is making hot shot take longer to cap

[quiet laurel]

the heat procs do like nothing

[old marsh]

y’all play Mesa for dmg. I play Mesa for assless chaps. We r not the same

https://tenor.com/view/pathetic-pathetique-pathetox-cat-gif-17249104

[gaunt gust]

you guys sound like you've never seen an eximus die from a fire proc when you need to rotate out of regulators

[severe bough]

They do die but the most of the work is just the raw dmg if your shoting cap enemys the rarely die through the proc then the sheer strength and impact the regys do

[fierce lark]

can confirm eximus really don't give a shit about my heat procs

[gaunt gust]

...this is unrelated, but why would you run waltz?

[old marsh]

It’s QoL

[severe bough]

Nice Qol

[karmic badger]

Can activate rolling guard while shooting

[fierce lark]

im debating taking it off mainly because it causes hard landings from high jumps

[karmic badger]

Yeah that's annoying

[gaunt gust]

pretty sure you can do that regardless, or could at some point, dunno now

[old marsh]

And melee careen

[fierce lark]

you can't roll without waltz

[karmic badger]

Usually i try roll before landing

Hek im fairly sure rolling resets the height distance for hard landing

[old marsh]

Evidence u never played Mesa

[night laurel]

aren't you rooted in place on channeling 4 w/o waltz?

[gaunt gust]

you shot a couple times, but the proc already deals ~8% of their health

that's some crazy overguard dmg btw

[old marsh]

Fortifier

X8 dmg

[fierce lark]

i dont have fortifier equipped lol

[gaunt gust]

well i remember being able to roll without waltz, but ig that got changed, you could just press shift+ctrl and roll

[karmic badger]

Probably just magnetic might

[night laurel]

damn. have you ever posted your build here? id like a peep

[fierce lark]

8% health per tick sounds great on paper but im doing more than that per bullet

[old marsh]

u don’t? My b 😭

[fierce lark]

no mag either, that's just raw regulator dmg

[night laurel]

thanks!

[gaunt gust]

assumming you can enter regulators to deal that damage, the point i'm making is that if you have to rotate out to refresh stuff or shield gate, the proc probably would be enough to finish low eximus

[karmic badger]

90k damage per second goes brrr

[old marsh]

Same build except corrosive heat

[fierce lark]

but i have corrosive heat

[fierce lark]

this sounds like one of those "on paper cool but in practice never happens" things

becuase i have never once thought to myself "damn it's a good thing i got a few extra heat procs to make that eximus bleed to death while im refreshing buffs"

[gaunt gust]

i dunno what practice you're doing, but in my practice i can swipe across the screen, disable regulators, and trust that whatever didn't die will die in the next couple of tics

[karmic badger]

I just keep the button pressed till she stops shooting

[oblique meadow]

If you subsume away chromas first ability will you be unable to change his element

[fierce lark]

the element will be based on your chroma's emissive color, and you can't change it mid-mission

[oblique meadow]

Ok thats fine

[fierce lark]

the practice of "things die before heat can stack"

200 armor-capped heavy gunners are dying before i can even finish ramping the fire rate

[oblique meadow]

Dang

Also I haven't the time to test it but does anyone know if chromas coat is affected by buffs from vex armor, rhinos roar, and volts speed and shock trooper

[gaunt gust]

which does not detract from my point at all

[fierce lark]

okay nvm the horrendous mic feedback goes away after a few seconds

but yeah, actual ETA where heat is once again not doing anything of note other than making hotshot number go up

[gaunt gust]

i dunno if you just don't notice it, but there's multiple times in this recording where you don't finish ppl with actual regulator hits but the exp still appears on your screen, cuz they die to the fire proc

[deep nebula]

Anybody got a mirage build ? 😬

[fierce lark]

im watching it back and i dont see it

[astral tinsel]

10% base SC is just not enough for status to be a significant portion of your dps

[gaunt gust]

28s

[fierce lark]

hell you right

but like

even if it had survived, i would've just shot it once while flying past it anyways lol

[gaunt gust]

i actually might've missed a few cuz of the fps, but ig it's only the recording that's like that

but like anytime you turn before the xp appears, it appears right after, so less enemies, potentially less eximus

[night laurel]

whats with the word on the streets saying that Korrudo is good? was it pre lifesteal nerf?

[quiet laurel]

Wtf is a korrudo

[fierce lark]

ive never heard the korrudo mentioned anywhere, but it's probably fine

[fierce lark]

punch weapon with ridiculously high cc/cd but no sc

[night laurel]

gotcha

[gaunt gust]

wuts korrudo

[night laurel]

korrudo so hard to get nobody's even heard of it </3

[fierce lark]

it's a worse coda hirudo, but with way higher disp

[night laurel]

5% chance from like, tusk thumpers, which themselves are hard to find/farm

[fierce lark]

the bp is like a 1/40 drop from tusk thumpers so that's understandable

[gaunt gust]

well, hopefully disposition on lich weapons gets fixed soon

[coarse bear]

So, Can someone help me with my Sevagoth Build?

Some missions I can't just nuke with Reap/Sow, even though I have 268 Strength

[patent fern]

what does it mean when using xaku's 2nd ability but i get these balls instead of guns? lost on what this does

[coarse bear]

It's "guns" of enemies who does not carry a gun (like infested)

[patent fern]

so they still shoot?

i was so lost on what they were doing

[coarse bear]

yep, they still shoot

[patent fern]

sweet thanks for that, worried i missed a part of his kit or something

would adaptation be better than rolling guard here? i feel like rolling guard isnt helping much as im finding myself getting downed often

[ionic kraken]

Does galvanized scope work on mesa

[compact cypress]

on the regs? nope

[cold salmon]

xaku is typically run with huras kubrow or shade which gives u invis as long as u are near an enemy and u do not attack with ur weapon, ur mainly just letting ur ability deal damage, and rolling guard is there as a panic button

[ionic kraken]

[patent fern]

i see, i have shade prime i just havent built it at all or even thought to use it

would you happen to have a good build for it or recommend one?

[cold salmon]

i dont play xaku a lot, but i would try

1. adaptation will probably work for base steelpath
2. replace rolling guard with catalyzing shield, and subsume on condemn/pillage, use them to shieldgate

[patent fern]

i was thinking of replacing my 3 with pillage or nourish since both seem highly recommended on xaku but his 3 does a lot of stripping and i use the 1 with my latron

i could just ditch the latron and focus on only casting

[cold salmon]

u will be ditching latron if u go for the shade/huras kubrow route since shooting with weapon will removes ur invis

u will need some sort of shieldgating if u wanna utilise ur weapon

[patent fern]

right idk why i completely forgot about that

only issue with shade is i dont have the tazicor which seems to be the only thing every shade guide has in common

[cold salmon]

either via catalyzing shield + vigor vigilante + shield deflection, or havng a subsume ability to regen shield, or having brief respite + catalyzing shield

[cold salmon]

if we are not talking about minmaxxing, tazicor is not that important, in xaku's case u really only want Shade primarily for its precept mod that gives u invis

[patent fern]

sweet

i will get a somewhat functional shade build going so i can at least survive a bit better

ill slap adaptation on too since with shade i dont think ill need rolling guard as much as i do without shade

[radiant vigil]

ok so gently some one can give me a tips/help? i asked at midnight but after 9 hours only bullshit posted on this channel for discuss build

[patent fern]

i have been sleeping on shade prime

mf is killing the enemies with duplex bond before they even get close enough for xaku to kill lmao

[night laurel]

ok now get crepuscular

[patent fern]

issue with that

i noticed that only got invisible for like 2 seconds

i think my shade gets a smidge 🤏 too trigger happy

how do i consistently stay invis with shade

buddy just doesnt fw covert ops it was just PERMA running around blowing shit up with viral procs and duplex bond

assuming its assault mode

but the guide i looked at said it was a invis/primer build and had assault mode on it so idk if im missing something or using it wrong

[cold salmon]

im nt at my home machine so im purely going off my memory but i THINK this is the build i ran on my excal, its nt a minmax build by any means but work well enough for ETA

Aura: Brief Respite

Mods:
Equilibrium
Primed Flow
Chromatic Blade
Catalyzing Shield
Primed Continuity
Blind Rage
Umbral Intensify
Transient Fortitude

Arcane:
Arcane Strike
Arcane Energize

Helminth: Nourish on 2nd

Exalted Blade:
Primed Pressure Point (Condition Overload if u are running a primer companion)
Galvanized Elementalist
Virulent Scourge
Volcanic Edge
Shocking Touch
Weeping Wounds
Primed Reach
Berserker Fury

Arcane: Melee Influence

Use 1st ability to shieldgate

[fierce lark]

you have to take assault mode off

[patent fern]

🫡 assumed so, will do

[fierce lark]

with duplex bond, it'll still spawn clones that'll run around and prime things (assuming tazicor)

[patent fern]

i do like crazy psychopath ordis skin shade prime tho, it feels right

so should i take duplex and assault off? or just assault

[fierce lark]

keep duplex, take off assault

duplex doesn't break stealth

[patent fern]

anything good to throw on instead of assault now that i have 8 capacity left

[fierce lark]

you probably have to take off coolant leak as well

[patent fern]

was just about to ask about that one lol

[patent fern]

do any of those rely on the sentinel's weapon?

[fierce lark]

just duplex

the clones will roam and attack anything with the equipped weapon

[patent fern]

ok sweet thanks for the build, gonna get the bond mods and slap those on rq

[fierce lark]

you can run ambush in place of something if you want for bursts of weapon damage, probably over animal instinct

or sacrifice

[patent fern]

im not too worried about the shade dmg since xaku does all the damage i need

just staying invis will be more than enough

[fierce lark]

shade primes things tho

clones can do aoe viral

[patent fern]

without the tazicor? i only see shade prime builds use that weapon and im nowhere near unlocking that thing

[fierce lark]

well no you'd need tazicor

[patent fern]

sounds like something ill have to work on getting next, but at least for now my problems have been (somewhat) solved

and adaptation was the right call

[fierce lark]

adaptation on xaku is kinda garbage

reason being 75% dodge on vast untime makes it very difficult to maintain stacks of it

unless you're getting absolutely pelted

but you're not now cause you have shade right?

[patent fern]

havent been hit a single damn time this run with shade actually working

ok wait no i just got hit for the first time but it doesnt count because its the netracell debuff making everything nuke it self on death

[fierce lark]

plus, since you don't have tazicor anyways, you can run burst laser on the shade, just to stick augur mods on it for shield gate

augur reach + augur pact/seeker on a pistol and brief respite is more than a full shield restore every time you hit 4 (assuming 45% efficiency)

[patent fern]

ive got the verglas prime on my shade rn

its doing quite some damage as is and it isnt fully done yet

[fierce lark]

if you're playing pure caster you can throw augur mods on your actual pistol

[night laurel]

i would trust you to build my life better than i do, damn

[patent fern]

any suggestions?

ive got a splendid 700 plat after using my endo to level and sell whatever galvanized and primed mods i had

since weapons are useless on this build as i cant really shoot anything i can just slap them on an empty ocucor config or something too right?

[fierce lark]

well augur pact/seeker together are like 10p total and are good to have for diriga builds

or just secondary statsticks for casters

[coral plank]

How good is 2k Armor with Persistence?

[patent fern]

what would that do for the build? since all of my damage right now is literally just my 2nd ability and going invis while it kills everything

[fierce lark]

about as good as 1.4k armor with persistence

which is about as good as 700 armor with persistence most of the time (sometimes you get stuck with heat)

[patent fern]

also would it be worth it to swap adaptation for intensify or umbral intensify? since i dont really have to worry about dying anymore i could possibly benefit from more strength since i have max range and good duration

[fierce lark]

adaptation isn't doing much, so swap it for either rolling guard in case of emergencies or more strength

[coral plank]

So Adapt is a nahh- k

[fierce lark]

adaptation and a bunch of armor don't really pair well with persistence

[patent fern]

how on earth do i get umbral formas

just realized those are a thing but i cant find em anywhere

[fierce lark]

rarely teshin has them, otherwise they usually come from gift of the lotus alerts/twitch drops/i think acrithis can have one sometimes

[charred gale]

typically from events and twitch drops

[charred gale]

those too

[fierce lark]

they are pretty rare

[patent fern]

damn i dont think ive gotten em from twitch drops ive gotta tune in more often

[charred gale]

they arent too useful tho ngl

[charred gale]

they're usually reserved for bigger streams

[coral plank]

So I can replace adapt and some of those carap with some range mods

[charred gale]

tennocon etc

[patent fern]

just saves me a normal forma since omni forma dont work on umbral mods either

[fierce lark]

the only real justifiable use case i can think of for umbral forma is the triumbral chroma PT build

the umbral setup on pretty much every other frame is like a sidegrade at best, and usually suboptimal and expensive

[charred gale]

ig its nice but id just use the extra forma

[charred gale]

some melee setups need it too albeit quite rare

[patent fern]

yeah im gonna just use formas and replace adaptation with umbral intensift so im at 200-ish strength

plus with molt augmented that puts me at whatever that would be

i think it gives like 62 or something extra strength unless im stupid

[fierce lark]

60%

[patent fern]

yeah see idk where i got an extra 2 from 😭

really glad i gave xaku another shot, really enjoying his playstyle

i usually only use nuke frames so literally anything that isnt standing still is nice

[fierce lark]

the funny thing is xaku is also a nuke frame lol

if you want them to be

[patent fern]

guessing somehow his 4 can just nuke?

[fierce lark]

nope, 3

more specifically Deny

[patent fern]

no way

[fierce lark]

let me go find some math i did with someone awhile back

#builds-discussion message

i forget what the exact strength value was, but that's with roar subsumed over 2 using arcane power ramp and molt augmented

vast untime makes all enemies hit take extra void damage, and it has an augment which causes it to apply the effect a second time at increased effectiveness, so enemies take 125% extra void damage for some reason

stack that with max guns on 2, roar, a bunch of ability strength, some priming from a kompressa or companion, and something i hadn't calculated because i didn't realize it, body part multipliers

you could probably make the deny laser headshot someone for over 5mil

[patent fern]

wait since xaku does void damage does that mean you can do the void cascades with xaku? or at least kill those pesky ghost fellas you usually have to swap to your operator to kill?

[fierce lark]

possibly more if it's an eximus since i think void does bonus damage to overguard lol

nah, you have to do "operator damage" to kill those

[patent fern]

the buildcrafting skills are insane

[patent fern]

aw bummer

would be fun if that worked

[fierce lark]

all the credit for that one goes to sky, i just did the math

he also told me about body part multipliers before i even started and i completely forgot

[patent fern]

so its not just body and head?

[fierce lark]

well different enemies have different body parts with different multipliers

like moas have a head, but the head isn't their weak point, it's a little pack underneath their body

[patent fern]

ah that would explain why the murmur have such odd weakpoints when using cyte

how neat

[karmic badger]

Its the weird beak thing between their legs, if you go to legs in fortuna, the reference is the Gyro component

[fierce lark]

a few techrot enemies have monitors on them which act as weakpoints, and the scuzzi's in particular has a 4.5x weak point for reasons

[karmic badger]

The babaus have the lumps on their tails

Scaldra efervon packs count as weakpoints but i don't think they have multipliers

[fierce lark]

they do actually, same as humanoid heads

[karmic badger]

Huh

[fierce lark]

dedicant backpacks only give 50% more damage instead of 3x but they do add a flat 100% crit to landed shots

[charred gale]

its "fake" void damage so no

[karmic badger]

Off-topic, Banshee's sonar absolutely count as weakpoints and the weird "nu uh" weakspots

[mortal roost]

Any ideas on how to make it stronger?

[compact cypress]

what are the best heavy slam weapons, Ive got the arca titron, coda mire, soapytoes, what should i also be getting?

[karmic badger]

Magistar, regular one, not the syndicate version

[compact cypress]

ive gott get my circuit done this week then, what makes the normal better than syndicate (not like i have it anyways)

[karmic badger]

Regular one gets more crit dmg over the syndicate version from the incarnon

[fierce lark]

magistar, arca titron, jat kittag, coda mire, possibly slampotes

[karmic badger]

I need to try doughty motovore slams

[compact cypress]

ive seen tiktoks with the wolfsledge, that thing worth getting?

[karmic badger]

Its a gimmick weapon, but its just effective enough to justify the humor

Also, its the biggest thing you can chuck at someone rn

[compact cypress]

sounds like fun

wb that kuva hammer? i havent seen much of it

[karmic badger]

I think that's a slam tool as well

[compact cypress]

god i wish i wasnt on a break during that slam meta

[acoustic bluff]

Yes

It was baller

[surreal python]

In what cases am I better off prioritising impact/puncture/slash on a weapon? Would I be better off giving the reconifex more impact over corrosive?

[wind cosmos]

you want more corrosive

[surreal python]

Hmm ok

I've already built for corrosive anyway

[wind cosmos]

you want that armor reduction on the enemy. I don't think I've seen an impact build before ngl. It's good for finishers but thats ab it

[surreal python]

I see

Well, would there be any way I could get Toxin without corrosive if my riven has electricity?

[wind cosmos]

if you combined your riven status with something else and had toxin mod last

[surreal python]

Hmm

Like go for rads and then add Toxin?

I don't think I can do that with my slots tbh

[wind cosmos]

nah dont go for radiation

[surreal python]

I need a Toxin riven so I can get more stack more into toxin

[wind cosmos]

its usually a pretty useless status

[surreal python]

Fair, alright

Magnetic ok?

[wind cosmos]

it just makes enemies start attacking eachother, which is pointless when you can just kill them faster

[surreal python]

I need magnetic capacity to get more out of primary plated rounds because I have the speed to get the 561% damage buff out by the time the mag is empty

[coral plank]

Whats better on Sevagoth Prime, two Tauforged Azure Energy or just Primed Flow?

[surreal python]

But I'm hoping I'd be able to get Toxin to make up for the loss of overall damage

[charred gale]

primed flow

u want strength shards for his oneshot

[surreal python]

Only problem is, is that the rivens are like a gajillion plat for toxin

My current riven for the reconifex doesn't have a negative, I have an identical one here for 100p but for Toxin, I might grab that

Kit it out and test it, I'll see how it plays out, but I've merely put up a bid atm on wfm

[wind cosmos]

whats the riven?

like the stats on it

[surreal python]

My current one is crit dmg, dmg and electricity

My crit chance is already 84% ish and I have Primary Acuity maxed on

I have the perfect reload for the innate extra rounds, the primary plated round 561% buff, Roar if I need it which is 137-220% depending on how long I'm in the match for and I fire 22-27 rounds a second

My crit dmg with everything on atm without considering primary acuity starts at 8.4x multi and 84% chance

[wind cosmos]

whats your status chance

[green gyro]

never

+ips is only used on coda motovore and even then it's kinda whatever

[surreal python]

Absolutely dogshit twin

[green gyro]

usually you want to remove ips with rivens

like removing impact from Bo is over 2x damage increase

[surreal python]

Ips?

[karmic badger]

Impact, Puncture, Slash

[wind cosmos]

ah ok, def mod for the faction damage bonuses when it comes to your status's then

[green gyro]

imp punc slash

[surreal python]

Sweet

[karmic badger]

those mods only scale off of their own damage, not the total damage like elemental mods

[green gyro]

-slash/punc isn't always good but -impact is great for anything that cares about status application

[karmic badger]

so if your total is 30, but only 10 of that is impact, 50% impact will only give you 5 extra damage

[green gyro]

since impact procs do basically nothing useful

and are capped

[karmic badger]

also radiation isn't so bad anymore with debilitate

stack to 10 quickly and you basically get free heat and electricity procs

[surreal python]

How does removing it give more damage?

[wind cosmos]

true but they stated that their status chance sucks and are going for a crit acuity build

[karmic badger]

then go for either raw electricity or gas

both of those will benefit from headshot multipliers like Deadhead

[surreal python]

In it's current state I'm hitting 7 digits on reds and consistent 6 on oranges

[karmic badger]

wait if we're talking about the reconifex, just go for viral and magnetic

[surreal python]

Status is abysmal though on it? Only guarantees on proc is the passive heat on perfect reload

[karmic badger]

magnetic will still help against overguard

and the occasional viral proc is still beneficial

ditch acuity, multishot will effectively multiply your status chance

[surreal python]

I have my secondary built for overguard but I also still have magnetic on reconifex anyway

[surreal python]

I was using a multishot build, the switch to acuity was better in the end

More consistent high damage

Primary Acuity still allows passive to give extra rounds

[fierce lark]

what extra rounds

[surreal python]

But I will also make a multishot build for Saryn with the reconifex tbf. In its current state, it's not relying on any weapons frames, I'm trying to build to get most of the gun without relying on anything outside of Wisp

But I will probably omni forma the whole thing to get better build variety

[surreal python]

Passive shoots an extra partial round with guaranteed heat status

[fierce lark]

oh the extra damage instance

[surreal python]

Ye

[wind cosmos]

wdym by partial round

[surreal python]

It's not a full damage round, it's own damage instance?

[wind cosmos]

its just 25% bonus heat damage to your magazine

like a mod

[green gyro]

less impact procs=more useful procs

in this case you do around 2x more electric procs

[surreal python]

I need to find one with Toxin 😅

Would any of you have spare reconifex rivens that I can buy? 😅 I have a decent amount of kuva but no spare rivens to roll

[green gyro]

check Warframe.market

they should be like 20p

[fierce lark]

about 16m dps with 50% headshots and 0 external buffs whatsoever (on unarmored)

[surreal python]

There's one for like 50p but they're offline, should I friend request with a message stating it?

[green gyro]

there's a guy ingame selling for 10p

[surreal python]

I've screenshotted it, I'll see what I can do with it, is Serration not good in this case?

[fierce lark]

serration is usually additive with aptitude and deadhead

[surreal python]

Oh shit

Alright tytyty

[fierce lark]

usually it's only used if the gun is mainly aoe where aptitude doesn't actually do anything

and the heat dot from perfect reload double dips from heat mods & triple dips bane/roar

(as do all "extra hit forced status" buffs from their respective element, including saryn 3)

[surreal python]

I've seen a build that involves extra forced status where you technically get 16 rounds a shot

[fierce lark]

forced status abilities favor frontloading as much raw damage as possible

for very large dots

[surreal python]

Buying rn, ty

WTH IS THIS

[fierce lark]

the worst thing ive ever seen

[surreal python]

Just got this lmao

What mods do you reckon have to stay for any build on a reconifex, I'm planning on omni forming this is as much as possible so I can use it across a bunch of frames but there's no point omni forming a slot that will stay the same across the board

[fierce lark]

vital sense

you can probably keep one for either critical delay or acuity

[surreal python]

Sounds good, ty

[surreal python]

Worth selling or just getting rid of?

[fierce lark]

-fr probably kills it for sell value

[surreal python]

Yeah, fair

Hmm should I get rid of magnetic capacity for tainted mag or wildfire?

[fierce lark]

probably tainted mag

wait no lmao

thought you were asking capacity or tainted mag for wildfire

ive never seen tainted mag run in my life, probably for good reason

[karmic badger]

tbh mag size mods should be moved to exilus

that or just make mag size mods also increase ammo maximum

[surreal python]

I'd prefer that 😅

[fierce lark]

mag size are direct dps increase, those can't go in exilus

[surreal python]

Yeaaaah, Ima stick with magnetic capacity

[opaque cradle]

Is this a good build gamers?

[green gyro]

concentration>efficiency but yeah it's good

Change the aura to corrosive projection tho

you can move the V polarity to the slot that transient fortitude is in

[opaque cradle]

Alright, thanks for the advice gamer

[fierce lark]

i would strongly suggest overextended somewhere if you have it

[opaque cradle]

I have it, I just don't know what to replace it with

[compact hill]

this is my volt build. should i replace all the shards with red tau strength shards?

[fierce lark]

auger secrets

[opaque cradle]

Alright, thanks gamer

[fierce lark]

or if you have a violet archon shard sitting around you can drop eqiulibrium and run 1-2 equilibrium shards

gulphagor generates so many orbs, the full mod is overkill

[opaque cradle]

Would it surprise you that idk how to get purple or green archon shards?

[fierce lark]

do you know how to get orange ones?

[opaque cradle]

Nope, I only know red, blue and yellow

[fierce lark]

uh one down from that one lol

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Orbiter_Segments#Helminth_Coalescent_Segment

[opaque cradle]

Well atleast I know where to get em now. I just need to do entrati missions

[sacred nexus]

do on call crewmates/specters proc galvanized mods/arcanes on their equipped weapons?

[proud anchor]

Last I remembered, no

[gaunt minnow]

Max range on protea?

[karmic badger]

Duration

[gaunt minnow]

Yeah, range and duration, i want to put gloom on her

[brittle sleet]

She doesn't get that much out of pumping range, and has perfectly fine survivability in her base kit, what's the motivation for Gloom?

[velvet pulsar]

I might rather use Jade subsume if slow is what u want

[warm ether]

Any suggestions for SP Wukong with helmith abilities?

[old marsh]

good MG

[surreal python]

Reconifex or the riven?

I love the reconifex

[velvet pulsar]

MG might be said for Machine Gun Malnourished Goof

[surreal python]

I see, I see

[velvet pulsar]

So Reconifex

[surreal python]

I love the reconifex, it's my favourite gun to use

I have a 42% usage on it all time

[old marsh]

Recon

[trim hill]

More LMG lovers in the chat. Quellor carries me like a babe to my cradle 🤱

[surreal python]

YEAAAAAHHHH

I saw it look identical to the MG42, so I built it to be that way, it's got the fire rate of one when paired with my Wisp (it ended up faster)

[velvet pulsar]

Quellor is an LMG?!

[trim hill]

Oooooh yeah

[gaunt wasp]

Sweet mother of element

[gaunt wasp]

I Need it

[trim hill]

With a laser master key underneath

[velvet pulsar]

I feel like I'm getting confused between many primary weapon names that start with Q

[surreal python]

I mean it's a high capacity and there's truly no proper lmg classification in the game

[trim hill]

Yeah, I just refer to large mag, slower reload rifles as LMGs

[gaunt wasp]

I lowkey want the Quellor and Pennant , but I rarely do Railjack outside of adversaries

[trim hill]

They are worth it, imo

[gaunt wasp]

What is the quellor classed as?

[surreal python]

I'm a massive fan of lmgs in games, I might collect a bunch

[trim hill]

Rifle

[surreal python]

AR

[gaunt wasp]

Outside of being a rifle

Oh

[surreal python]

It's considered an Assault Rifle according to the wiki

[trim hill]

It's a rifle with a 300rnd mag, basipally an LMG. It also has a big pp dmg alt fire

[surreal python]

There's never any real lmg classification but there are plenty of guns that are supposed to be lmgs

Reconifex starts with 200 rounds, looks themed around an LMG/MMG (Mainly the MG42, which also is my favourite gun) and it still fires what would look like decently sized caliber rounds

[bitter sinew]

what should i change to make this better or is it good enough?

[surreal python]

I have it for 280 and get a 561% buff from Primary Plated Round and my fire rate allows me to get all those rounds out before the 10s wears off

[trim hill]

If you get lucky enough to get even just a decent riven for Quellor, it obliterates enemies. And it can be built several different ways, which makes it quite fun to play around with

[gaunt wasp]

Used it in circuit once or twice

[surreal python]

Could anyone show me a good crit build for reconifex if they have one?

[trim hill]

Nah, Circuit doesn't do it justice

[gaunt wasp]

Don’t have access to the stupid mods we can use

[surreal python]

Circuit is not a good place to try that out, ambassador was almost decent on that so you know for a definite it's a bad place to test it

[trim hill]

This is what I currently run, don't remember my arcane tho

[gaunt wasp]

Also, how rare is the quellor

[surreal python]

Primed shred gives how much again?

[trim hill]

It's not terribly rare. Iirc, you only need one BP plus regular mats to build

[trim hill]

R9 is 50% FR and 2 PT

[gaunt wasp]

Looks like I got my next goal(besides aya farming)

[surreal python]

I run a primary acuity build on reconifex and it was more promising to me than the multishot (I do run wisp and I am talking in terms of SP Viability)

[compact cypress]

what should i change with my garuda

[surreal python]

But I do plan on omni forming the whole gun so I can run a tonne of different things

[gaunt wasp]

What of the Pennant?

[trim hill]

Iirc (and I could be wrong), I think I was running MS so I could get more out of the status, since it spits ailments like a mf

[trim hill]

Amazing heavy attack heavy nikana (if you like that playstyle)

[surreal python]

If you go for a sayrn with like xata's whisper and some other things, you can get insane amount of procs

[severe bough]

Max out range look that u get enough str for 100% slash on 4 use vig swap and molt reconstruct

[trim hill]

I like it with my Oraxia, because I don't care for Saryn meself 👀

[surreal python]

I'm currently hunting down good rivens though atm to run a bunch of things on

[surreal python]

Reconifex with Oraxia?

[trim hill]

Ye, she has innate toxin with her 4

[gaunt wasp]

I Wonder how well blast would fare on the quellor

[surreal python]

Sammmmeee, do you run a pharoah Predasite too with the Toxin pools?

[trim hill]

Sometimes, ye

[compact cypress]

why vig swap?

[trim hill]

It would do really well on the primary fire

[surreal python]

My main companion is the Pharaoh Predasite so I kinda try to build with them in consideration

[severe bough]

1 and 4 are coded as weapons the get boosted by vig swap/ arcane archnee

[severe bough]

U can swap out cata shields for vig swap

U got i frames on 1 and 4

[surreal python]

So I'm trying to get my current riven to switch out the electricity with Toxin, I put a bid up in the meantime for one I saw which was identical but for Toxin

Only problem is with both of these riven are, is that they're missing a negative and it means although my riven is massively boosted, it just means that the stats could be better

But all I see on the options are all 1k plus on contracts

Not spending that much

[compact cypress]

smthing like this?

didnt put on reconstruct since i dont have one upgraded

[inner wyvern]

So I got the sniper vadarya prime, trust me I dont think really any snipers are god tier but I want to know some sniping warframe options.

I get kullervo has binding curse but is there a way to build him around sniping or does anyone have any other suggested sniper frames.

I used to use volts 4 to freeze enemies in place and dome shot them with my snipers however I am open to ideas

[proud anchor]

Primary crux as the arcane and modding for pure electric and crit makes it pretty strong.

[timid dust]

How much could this go for

[proud anchor]

Even stronger if you have shock trooper and volts electric shield

[gaunt wasp]

Why are there two Sevagoths

[left scroll]

I tried to override the 100% range while I got sevagoth as my random invigoration

And can't have both unfortunately

So im kinda sad now

[severe bough]

If u got arcane concentration use that instead of efficiency

[compact cypress]

i just sloted arachne over it

and opted for cata instead of vigswap coz im lazy

[severe bough]

Works aswell if u got some survivalbility issue cata should solve it

U just need to wall latch every now and then

[compact cypress]

yeah

lasts like 30s though so its not a big deal

[old marsh]

Gamba

[timid sky]

So Im running a no shield khora and need to know if I built her right I don't have the exilus spot open yet I have her kavat focused on healing and my sly is the the same

Best pic I can get

[gaunt minnow]

Just to control an entire room with her 1 and gloom. Its a cool idea imo, if it works

[coral plank]

I think I asked this before but I forgot, can reap trigger the topaz rad ability damage?

[severe bough]

what does the shard do?

[main sparrow]

Someone have a Kompressa Prime build?

It works for Put States right?

[midnight citrus]

Am I on the right track for Okina Prime?

[timid sky]

They add specific buffs like one adds more energy on spawn or increases damage or health Regen

[velvet pulsar]

Do enemies have radiation status when they're getting damaged by Sevagoth's nuke?

If yes, then the shard helps

[velvet pulsar]

Looks like it

The only min-max one could argue is the element of choice

Should it be viral or should it be a DoT like electric, gas, or blast

[severe bough]

Ik what the shards are i was just wondering why he wants to use topaz on sev iirc he doesnt do any rad dmg and even if theres no point of using the shard anyways

Didnt even know there was smth related to rad dmg bruh

[timid sky]

Sorry I misunderstood

[severe bough]

Nvm he does rad dmg bruh

[red moat]

is magnetic progenitor good for the kuva nukor?

[severe bough]

No all good lmao shouldnt sound rude if it did

[severe bough]

Yes

[velvet pulsar]

If an enemy has max stacks of radiation and puncture (ignore the exception of Evensong), then the enemy will deal overall more damage or less damage than original?

[icy valve]

Does anyone know where I can find these

If you have spare would yall mind sliding me them? I had to restart warframe for the first time due to unfortunate circumstances

[icy seal]

Do you know such good and quick-status weapon on Sentinel like tazicor (a lot of electricity), but with heat? I need a lot of aoe-fire on Nautilus for Nezha.

Or with toxin...

[green gyro]

if the enemies are rad procced yes but it's just worse than strength shards

[deep grotto]

Too many drop sources to list for the first one

Heat mods are from Earth, Venus, Mars and Mercury nightmare missions
Rime rounds is Saturn, Ceres, Jupiter, Europa and Lua spy
Malignant force is a corrupted Vor mod
Vigilante mods are cetus bounties

You can save yourself some time next time by checking the wiki yk

https://wiki.warframe.com/

[barren orbit]

is blending talons worth it for garuda?

[barren orbit]

i'm building garuda too what are you building her for

here's mine i don't really want to get vigorous swap

[severe bough]

Yes

[inner crane]

I'm building a Voruna melee critical build with condition overload for chunky damage. Unfortunately you cant target bosses like archons with the 2 ability. Am I just screwed for bosses then or is Voruna still viable for melee crit?

[severe bough]

That should be good for now when u get acess to the primed mod swap those and also arcanes

[barren orbit]

about arcanes, can i trade for molt augmented at mr6

because i know i can't trade for arcane energize since its a legendary and that's only mr11 and above

[barren orbit]

what does it even do i read the description i didnt understand it

[hexed lodge]

You can still use a single target primer like Phage or Kompressa tho

[blissful atlas]

Got the Dual Toxicists! ...tho i have no clue how to build or aim with them...

[inner crane]

Entirely forgot I could use more than one weapon. I'll swap my primary and throw on as many different status mods and use it as a primer.

I think I'm on the right track with this Voruna build though. Don't even have melee arcanes or a riven or tauforge shards yet and it's already doing some whacky numbers.

[hexed lodge]

lol it happens
bonus tip, Secondary Encumber works great for more statuses, and Primary Debilitate is great too, but Debilitate won't work on bosses, just saving you from that mistake I recently learned

[inner crane]

Yeah I will look into encumber. I wish Voruna's 4 ability actually worked with the rest of the abilites but it exists in modifier isolation so I swapped that for battlecry so quickly

[severe bough]

It removes the charging thing for 4

[barren orbit]

is that all

[severe bough]

It basically makes it tap instead of hold smth like that very nice Qol

[hexed lodge]

i don't know much about Voruna (but i love priming + heavy attacks) so all I can say is... unfortunate 🪦

[inner crane]

17million is good damage yes?

[hexed lodge]

if the target is, is ded, that's all that matters in my view

[plain swan]

Anyone got a syam build to pair with volt?

[fierce lark]

tox combines with the heavy waves' heat to make gas, shock trooper adds electric for influence to spread gas, heavy waves have multiplicative co scaling, if you have roar or don't want to use smite you can use ppp instead

probably should do galv ele instead of melee ele for more status chance

[crisp abyss]

What’s the best primary for kullervo?

[fierce lark]

rauta

[gusty raft]

Shotguns are usually my go to for melee frames

Coda bassocyste my beloved

[crisp abyss]

Thanks also my friend wanted me to ask a question for him too

does weeping wounds work multiplicatively or additively? with exalted weapons too
for example if my desert wind has 120% status chance (due to the argument on the Warframe) does that mean that with max combo I'll have 520%~ status chance or will it only stack with the base status chance of desert wind or only the modded status chance?
and does it work the same for blood rush or no

[inner crane]

You would love vorunas first 3 abilities. First ability gives you insane damage buffs and speed buffs and invisibilty second ability gives 10 stacks of 5 completely random status effects and teleports you 30 meters to a target and 3 forces enemies to drop health or energy for sustain. For heavier enemies you can spam 2.

[fierce lark]

additive, it's just a + status chance mod

[torpid oar]

anybody got a build or dante? that has high dmg and maybe level cap?
or whats the best video build that i should ollow

[plain swan]

And if i use Wrathful Should i replace Sacrificial with Galv steel?

[mighty flare]

yes

[fierce lark]

galv is possibly better regardless, im going off the assumption that the waves gain the crit dmg from volt shield

but also companion crit dmg + organ shatter so sac should be better by default anyways

with WA galv is always better no question

[fringe breach]

is this build ready for sp btw i am cahing the gambit and cracker as soon as i get primed on them

[late hemlock]

you missed target cracker last week so it might be a good while till it makes a return

not knowing the weapon its a generally solid enough setup for base level steel path

[woven lynx]

Flare doesn't feel good to use

idk he feels odd

[mighty flare]

how ya using em, they really only got a weapon platform build

[woven lynx]

I hate subsuming stuff on frames to make them playable on sp endurance

[spare lake]

What are the best weapons to use with harrow? I dont have the dual toxos incarnon so I'm trying to find another headshot machine that can be semi comparable in the meantime.

[violet delta]

for mesa i did 2 build on Underframe with the rest of her build and on that site the difference of dps is enormous but in game seems like the same, should i go full heat + nourish or corrosive/heat + nourish?

[mighty flare]

CorroHeat Nourish

Pure heat is not good

[severe bough]

Coda sporothrix is pretty good with him

[violet delta]

thats what i was thinking but in game seems like both good

[mighty flare]

There’s a definitive better build and that’s CorroHeat

[violet delta]

even in overframe i copied the build and they differences in dps is big

[fierce lark]

you almost never "need" to subsume something for a frame to be SP viable

but most frames have 1-2 dead weight or mediocre buttons that can go in place of a pressable one

[fluid hare]

looking for good crit focused burston prime builds
i dont have incarnon form yet nor alot of crit mods but im willing to farm or buy the mods needed

[late hemlock]

without the incarnon adapter the weapon is pretty weak, would advise you to look towards something else until the adapter rolls back around

[blissful atlas]

Can anyone help me with dual toxocyst First time actually building smth i have to aim with

[spare lake]

Get the incarnon when its up for grabs that goes away lol

[fringe breach]

what the best build for nuke nova i really like playing as her ngl

my current build is this

[dapper mulch]

i have a doubt about the reconifex - is it better to use acuity or go for multishot?

[main sparrow]

@fierce lark Do you have a Kompressa Prime build ?

[celest thicket]

i have no idea what to build on rhino so i just stacked armor, does anyone have a good one there ? (lol ordis peeking there)

[fierce lark]

i have nothing that overframe wouldn't have

[main sparrow]

Kompressa is primer or To deal damage ?

[fierce lark]

can do both

damage variant i think is blast enervate

[barren orbit]

what's the fastest way of charging up the red ball with garuda?

[blissful atlas]

yeah, have it installed, thats why i was asking 😭 Need some stuff that can actually hurt bosses and stuff

[main sparrow]

I don't find a Ninjase build for primer, only for Damage

[vestal lintel]

What archon shards would be best with mirage? Am thinking some extra shield or armour because her survivability is horrendous

[celest thicket]

her survivability is the kind of "kill shit faster than they can kill you and blind the rest"

[fierce lark]

probably this

[celest thicket]

she does have eclipse which has a 75% damage reduction, depending on the content youre playing on that should be good enough, but on higher levels i think you want shield gating , and defensive archon shards dont really help with that

[fierce lark]

if you want heat inherit with your primer swap shot/diffusion for the galvanized variants and two of anemic/mag might/isotope for faction mod & elementalist

and if you want augur mods for shield gate you can flex out any of those

[vestal lintel]

This is my build with her, at steelpath i constantly die with her, dont have any good arcanes aswell

Maybe more armour with blue shards would help? Or subsuming some frame for a different ability

[late hemlock]

do you have any augur mod on your weapons? because you have zero augur mods or brief respite on your frame despite using catalyzing shields

[vestal lintel]

nah i dont

[fluid hare]

still looking for good crit focused rifle mods, i plan on getting the galvanized one but any suggestions?

[vestal lintel]

I do have the mods but idk what i would even swap

[late hemlock]

then you are missing the point of catalyzing shields

[vestal lintel]

what would you recommend spawning out in mirage then?

[late hemlock]

there arent many sources of crits when it comes to rifles

for crit chance you have point strike or critical delay, argon scope or galvanized scope for conditional crit chance on headshots
crit damage is limited to vital sense and hammer shot

so unless i forgot something thats about it generally, not many mods to go and grab (note that hammer shot is really expensive)

[late hemlock]

if you want to keep your setup it is very easy to just slot in an augur mod on your secondary or even on a sentinel weapon

otherwise if you want to keep your setup as close to its current state then you can swap out either of the regen rate mods or umbral intensify for augur secrets

[fierce lark]

bladed rounds

vital sense but while aiming

[late hemlock]

or brief respite over dreamer bond

oh true forgot about that one

[fierce lark]

and obligatory acuity mention, since burston is one of the only weapons that might actually run it

[celest thicket]

no armor would not help , she has shit health pool and no sustain, even warframes with high armor and high health can die in SP if theyy dont have sustain, make use of augur mods like the others are saying

[fierce lark]

im actually leaning towards acuity over chamber on burston, charges incarnon slower but it makes incarnoff headshots delete everything it hits

[late hemlock]

that requires aiming so not my personal playstyle

[fierce lark]

bullet incarnons require aiming wcyd

[celest thicket]

i was using latron with acuity and thought to myself , why do people even need rivens for this thing ? it already deletes everything

[fierce lark]

i probably won't try it on latron because the incarnon is just a flying fireball lol

[late hemlock]

people LOVE overkill

[charred gale]

Acuity latron is def a build

[late hemlock]

the most expensive rivens are usually for things where its not even needed

[fierce lark]

popular weapon ✅
strong weapon ✅
pointlessly high disposition ✅

[vestal lintel]

Would it be worth having Augur message and secrets over narrow minded and umbral intensify?

[fierce lark]

burston/dtox/torid/magistar/namisolo in a nutshell

[late hemlock]

i would look into brief respite over dreamers bond first because dreamers bond is really just not doing anything

[fierce lark]

and strun and latron and a lot of other things

[vestal lintel]

yeah it looks abit annoying to get lol

[late hemlock]

understandable i still didnt bother to farm it to this day

[fierce lark]

brief respite is from the apothic grove right

[celest thicket]

if you dont have brief respite , the first thing i would look into changing is fast deflection

[late hemlock]

yeah its silver grove stuff

[fierce lark]

yeah that's definitely a buy

[late hemlock]

i dont have brief respite and growing power and it might stay that way forever lmao

[fierce lark]

most of my shieldgate builds don't use respite anyways, the 40% from augur does the same as the 150% from BR if you have catshields anyways

[charred gale]

“Riven disposition is based on popularity”

[celest thicket]

yes, its the drop with the highest chance of droping , but it still is silver grove

if you like farming plants its good plat to be had

[fierce lark]

that was probably true once upon a time

the problem is, they never nerf dispositions

so the torid that was useless for 10 years now being the most op weapon in the game still has the "useless" disposition value

[celest thicket]

they might as well just make everything have a 1.0 dispo and leave it at that

(im coping because i want to use my trumna riven)

[fierce lark]

and like, they can't lower riven dispositions in good faith

because people spend literally thousands of dollars worth of platinum on some of these

[vestal lintel]

These are the shards I have, what should i put on?

[celest thicket]

completely my opnion but i would go 3 Red with Strenght, 1 yellow with parkour velocity and 1 with energy on respawn

[vestal lintel]

hm ok thanks

[neat harbor]

Nah take casting speed over energy on spawn

Or more strength

[raw sigil]

does anyone know if nokko's 4 trigger headshot stuff

or "weakpoint" since it bounces on enemies heads

[near vortex]

I need like 3 morbillion tau green shards

[timid dust]

how much could this go for

[fierce lark]

trash price

[viscid bane]

Is Azothane good these days? Also any dual swords recomendations?

[timid dust]

what would be considered good stats for nikana

[fierce lark]

+elec +cc +cd +dmg +as +range
-IPS -slide -finisher -hae

[viscid bane]

Pretty much as any other melee. crit chance and damage, attack speed, range

[timid dust]

something like that?

[fierce lark]

heat kills it

[timid dust]

kills it like, in a good or a bad way

[fierce lark]

bad way

[viscid bane]

you don't want any elem dmg on melee rivens besides electric.

because melee influence

[timid dust]

What if electricity IS included but there is another elem

[viscid bane]

slash is fine since it's base but not ideal

[fierce lark]

+slash hurts it a lot, you want physical damage to go down to increase elec weighting

[barren orbit]

could somebody help me build garuda's melee weapon i genuinely have no clue how to build it

[fierce lark]

physical damage statuses aren't spread with influence so they are undesirable

in fact im pretty sure a godroll riven for most light influence melees has to have slash as the negative

[timid dust]

so crits and elec? no thing like base dmg?

[viscid bane]

-1 range is big oof

[fierce lark]

crit is good, base damage is good, range is good, elec is good, attack speed is good

any 3 of the above and a harmless/beneficial negative like -slash/slidecrits/efficiency/finisher

[viscid bane]

Standard melee infulence shenanigans

[barren orbit]

what is so good about melee influence exactly

[fierce lark]

you press the attack key and the screen in front of you suddenly disappears

[viscid bane]

When it procs all your statuses spread to nearby enemies dealing massive dmg in aoe

[timid dust]

So 'godroll' would be only the above,, with elec being essential, and none of the negative?

[fierce lark]

im not sure if elec is necessarily essential, it's just a good roll

[timid dust]

what about heavy attack eff?

[viscid bane]

You want a harmless negative most of the time since it adds to max values of postives

[fierce lark]

thats just slightly better than shocking touch

[viscid bane]

HAE is worthless becuse Tennokai exists

[blissful atlas]

All positive rivens! (Idk if they're good-)

[fierce lark]

if you're trying to get a riven to sell, you're likely to spend millions of kuva before you see a good one

slottable roll vs sellable roll are two very different things

and rivens that aren't among the best possible rolls are very difficult to sell

[timid dust]

what should i go for? just wanna make sure im not missing out on anything... both look good

[viscid bane]

Latron can be really good if you roll good stats for it

[blissful atlas]

That riven is decent? I just want to get a riven for dual toxocyst so it does damage

[red moat]

Which build is better for my aksomati prime? I am running Zephyr prime (Pure orange crits while I'm in the air with both builds) with no buff mods outside of Arcane velocity

[viscid bane]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-on-shoulder-akakichi-no-eleven-everything-will-be-ok-my-brother-in-christ-we're-gonna-beat-you-gif-16692013677699419935

[blissful atlas]

Never have built an actual weapon😭

[fierce lark]

in more technical terms

influence is a buff that has a chance to trigger when you inflict electricity, lasts for 20s, and causes all elemental status effects you inflict to be spread to enemies within 18m of your target

if you hit an enemy with an elec status that does enough damage to kill it, that same status is going to spread to every enemy within that radius and do the same damage

if you hit 5 enemies in front of you with an elec status, each of those 5 enemies is going to spread that same elec status to every single other enemy within an 18m radius, including each other

the result is you turn any melee weapon with decent status chance into a walking room nuke

[viscid bane]

It'smid at best. Do you want a riven to sellor to slot in?

[blissful atlas]

For dual Toxocyst, to slot in, yeah

[timid dust]

i think i got something good here?

[blissful atlas]

Any others i might just sell tbh

[fierce lark]

god roll

[timid dust]

Does that mean good moneh?

[fierce lark]

the stats look a little low? but that's an insane roll

if you were going to sell a nikana riven thats close to as good as it gets

[viscid bane]

prob but goodluck selling it cuz god rolls are very hard to sell

[timid dust]

Are they? Usually cuz of the rerolls?

[viscid bane]

No, beacause they cost alot and most people don't have that kind of plat

[timid dust]

Oh, true, i just thought it was worth the invest cuz its a decently good weapon

[fresh quail]

Roar or xatas whisper on a acid shells kuva sobek molecular prime nova build?

[timid dust]

So how much would it go for?

[fierce lark]

the cheapest riven with those positives and a harmless negative on wfm currently is 1200p

the next cheapest with a mostly harmless negative is 700-1k

[fresh quail]

Also is Novas 2 any good? I subsume over it as I really don’t get much damage out of it in steel path and I really enjoy the mobility of the portals.

[timid dust]

I mean, 1k is good for me

You think its a fair price?

[viscid bane]

It's decent for low lvl nuking but that's about it

[timid dust]

Sorry for bothering, just gotta ask the experts

[fierce lark]

let me ask riven hub in wfcd

[barren orbit]

as good as this sounds i don't really want to buy melee influence, is there a standard normal build for level 50s and 60s i could use instead?

[timid dust]

wfcd?

[viscid bane]

Just get it from cavia for standing, pretty easy to max out and it's worth it

[fierce lark]

community disc

[blissful atlas]

Wait, Is broken war still good? Or should i just fully mod dual ichor

[fierce lark]

what weapon?

[viscid bane]

Ichor better cuz Incarnon

Broken War is fine but got powercrept

[blissful atlas]

Yup, have it, but its sad that i dont have the right tenokai mod

[viscid bane]

Tennokai is a must for any melee these days tbh

[blissful atlas]

I guess so, gotta get that one specific tenokai mod

[fierce lark]

@timid dust i'll get an answer one day but keep it for now

[viscid bane]

You want either Disciple's Merit or Dreamer's wrath

Merit is consistency Wrath is rng but big number

[timid dust]

Okay, thank you

[blissful atlas]

Dreamers better, no? More damage and you still get opportunities more often

[blissful atlas]

And i all i want in Warframe is big numbers❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

[viscid bane]

those are interchangeable depending on preference

[blissful atlas]

And its Entratis alchemy? Might get a few stella while at it

To get it i mean

[celest thicket]

how cursed would a health tanking rhino build be ?

[versed harbor]

yes

[viscid bane]

yea for both, and they are in rot C

[versed harbor]

rhino basically doesnt build hp atall

[blissful atlas]

I mean, i just gotta pray that it doesnt last over a few hours...

[viscid pelican]

any good?

ermm is this one good?! looks good 😬

[celest thicket]

not really, bows dont really have low reload speed, they have low charge rate , which is attack speed

[viscid bane]

Both are bad

[viscid pelican]

oof thank you @celest thicket

NOoo 🙁

[celest thicket]

negative crit , terrible , roll it

[viscid pelican]

how does one roll it LMAO

[celest thicket]

with Kuva

[viscid pelican]

ohhh bet would rolling it be for the same weapon?!

[celest thicket]

yes, you would be rolling the stats

the weapon stays the same

[viscid bane]

Mods>chosse the mod you want to roll, press cycle to spend kuva to reroll stats

The weapon is the same, it's only the stats that change

[viscid pelican]

oh nice tyyy fellas ❤️

[raw sigil]

has anyone tested if evade gets duration from nokko's 4 since it bounces on enemies heads ?

[celest thicket]

if you get a good roll on that burston riven it can net you some serious platinum in the market

[viscid pelican]

i have 113,000 Kuva

[raw sigil]

nice

[viscid pelican]

I figured i hear Burston prime all the time but I have never really dabbled with rivens until now

[celest thicket]

not really worth it in my opnion, onlyy if you really have nothing else to do

but since you got for the burston , might as well try rolling it

[viscid bane]

Burston Incarnon is already stupid strong. Riven just makes it a bit more broken

[viscid pelican]

omg rolling the riven is giving me a dopamine hit

XD

btw if im posting on the wrong chat let me know i dont want to be bothersome ❤️

[celest thicket]

oh man another addicted to gacha mechanics, you better like farming steel essence for more kuva because that thing goes away FAST

[viscid bane]

also bad rolls

[viscid pelican]

gambling is an addiction for a reason XD

[celest thicket]

you generally want multishot, crit damage, fire rate and crit chance

if any of those are a negative , just roll it

negatives with ammo, recoil, zoom and maybe damage to faction are considered harmless so no problem having those

[viscid pelican]

tyyyy ❤️

[viscid bane]

Alternatively if itcombines the effect of severalother mods it'salso quite good, just not very sellable

[viscid pelican]

so like this one?!

[viscid bane]

For example this.Not worth much but allows me to free up space

[celest thicket]

yeah if you get elemental damage on the riven its nice too if you want to actually use it

[viscid pelican]

@viscid bane oh okay bet

[viscid bane]

Or you can get a god roll like this

[celest thicket]

kinda , but the recoil is a positive there, -recoil is positive, +recoil is a negative, you dont want recoil wasting a positive stat in your riven

[viscid pelican]

welp i got down to 100,00 kuva and thats my limit for now lmao ty fellas once again big help <#

[celest thicket]

i said it goes away fast

good luck friend

[viscid bane]

Gambling is a sin but Jesus died so we could sin

[severe bough]

Im pretty sure it doesnt work tho if your Intention was to subsume it i wouldnt

[viscid pelican]

it doess but ill keep riven hunting as a past time not a full time

@viscid bane Amen Jesus is the best ❤️ thats why i place my gambling addictions on a game not with real money XD

[viscid bane]

after 10 rolls kuva cost goes up to 3500 per roll

[viscid pelican]

jeez

[severe bough]

Grinded meta arbi going all in on kuva and still getting Depressions>

[viscid bane]

This is why unrolled rivens cost a bit more on the market

[smoky carbon]

What's the best way to build Baruuk?

[celest thicket]

strenght and range i would say,

strenght increases his damage reduction and range increases his sleep which allows for faster restraint removal

[smoky carbon]

any continuity I should put in there or build only for strength and range?

[celest thicket]

yes you can use duration on him if you have a slot free

but doesnt do much

[trim edge]

Hey what melee works best for Uriel

[viscid bane]

Should I replace Shred with hellfire? Riven is +CC +MS

[smoky carbon]

Gram Prime from my experience. Build for crits and throw volcanic edge on if you have a slot free

[celest thicket]

which weapon is this ?

[viscid bane]

Braton Prime

[spark thorn]

Ive been tinkering with an idea i want a second opinion before committing to it though

Subsuming vauban 1 onto gyre over her 2 and using the tesla bank augment

[celest thicket]

keep shred, losing both punch through and fire rate would be a dps loss overall

[spark thorn]

My thought is that it should both stack and trigger gyre passive far better than her 2

[celest thicket]

you could also use the augment for her 2, which also helps

but if you prefer tesla servos, there is no probelm

[spark thorn]

I just like that they auto target and kinda just do thier own thing

[trim edge]

Uriel with Okina Prime Incarnon 12x build or Uriel with Harmony Heavy Attack Build

[celest thicket]

if you prefer that then use it, its better to use something that feels better than something that is just slightly better

[spark thorn]

I think post rework the vau 1 may also be even better than now

They mentioned making it be a bit less janky

And its gaining ability scaling

So that could be fun

[idle swan]

Does Warcry and Shocktrooper work on calibans summons?

[trim rampart]

Is +crit dmg +multishot -crit chance riven useable for perigale?

[viscid bane]

Guys which secondary should I go for my Newbie Prime loadout?

[past rivet]

If it was for any other glaive. 😭 🤣

[viscid bane]

Thinking of farming for Lato Vandal to get 4 different keywords in it

[nocturne heron]

how should i build my vexoric

[fierce lark]

try 1-1.2k

[fierce lark]

lato vandal would be the peak of the "shiny noob" loadout

but that farm might take you weeks lol

[viscid bane]

I got nothing else to farm for so might as well

[celest thicket]

oh man... it would literally be faster to get the plat than to actually get it to drop

[fierce lark]

while true, if you farm it you can sell spare pieces lol

[celest thicket]

if at least wasnt EDA i would try it more, but doing that thing for 8 rounds for each drop without even getting a ounce of resources ? nah

[nocturne spindle]

Maybe bronco prime?

[viscid bane]

are they worth a lot?

[celest thicket]

the entire thing is around 350p

[viscid bane]

https://tenor.com/view/jontron-what-excuse-me-confused-gif-15932709

[undone dust]

one piece being the 300p

[celest thicket]

but just the barrel is like 200p

because its annoying asf to get that

the other parts are like 50

i think the receiver actually is worth nothing actually

yeah 5

funny if you buy only the parts you pay less

[idle swan]

rate it.

[old marsh]

I am LR2 and even I don’t have it I have plat but I refuse to buy it

No gun is worth that much lol

[viscid pelican]

based DE

oops wrong chat my bad

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-should-been-gif-23901254

[fierce lark]

brother i dont think you realize how long the braton/lato vandal farms are lol

[viscid bane]

welp. I do need tons of focus as well, so that's a silver lining i guess

[fierce lark]

godspeed

[viscid bane]

anything to flex on baby tennos

[late hemlock]

was lato vandal farm that long? got it but ig it was from one of the early events before it was permanently available

also eso like braton?

[fierce lark]

same farm as braton

but the lato has 1 less component i think

[late hemlock]

then i guess its good braton is the harder of the two since it has prime anyways

[old marsh]

make it 99 plat and i will gladly buy it

[old marsh]

invasions as i recall.

[late hemlock]

oh then thats an easy farm? just rng waiting for invasions i suppose?

[old marsh]

ye. but once it got moved, the price slowly rose to what we have now. specially since it got an incarnon

thankfully Lato exists so Vandal is optional.

[late hemlock]

i do have the adapter for lato vandal im pretty sure i just never installed it because that required playing duviri lmao

ill get to it one day when i feel like ig

[rapid zodiac]

Anyone got builds for Octavia? I’m Mr10 i reached yesterday i don’t have a lot of mods that are strong

[steel yarrow]

Ello anyone want to see my silly zenistar build and see if it can be better?

[old marsh]

make a balanced build. she is one of the few frames in the game that you can take to level cap without a single mod

[spark thorn]

Does the aoe from the story bow break Ivara stealth?

I know arrows generally wont but wasnt sure if the charged shot counts as an audible blast or not

[fresh quail]

Is this good?

[undone dust]

you can just put hush in the exilus

[acoustic bluff]

Literally just keep on rolling

[celest thicket]

about the same actually, the problem is the Rotation C parts, both have one in rotation C which takes the longest by far, both comes out at about the same price, braton may be 50p more expensive at best

right now both are at the same price

[hard dove]

It's Xoris so no
And the riven stats is also bad so no

[toxic mortar]

What increases the amount of tentacles on hydroids 4th?

[slender viper]

would magnetic be good a good progenitor for the cuva zarr

[steel yarrow]

Is there any way I could make this silly sword better?

[coral crest]

famous last words

[spare lake]

Is harrow worth putting in the helminth for his ability? Limited on Subsume slot and just got harrow prime so im wondering whether I should just sell my regular one

[glass rampart]

I think condemn is a good lazy cc/shield regen ability

[spare lake]

Alright well I did it lol yay more flowers XD

[celest thicket]

trumna prime , should i change anything ? (im using rhino so yes he has enough armor for stacked bulwark)

(ignore the exilus slot , i just didnt have anything to put there and i dont want to forma again yet)

[graceful plank]

Pretty new player, anything in specific I should go for?

[celest thicket]

do you see that mod with the number red ? that mod is not matching the polarity, some slots have a symbol, if you use mods of the same symbol in the same slot the mod will cost less capacity to use

[graceful plank]

I do know that, but it seemed to be the most useful at the moment

[celest thicket]

put redirection in that slot, it has the same polarity

just change the position

[celest thicket]

but for a new player its all good, you have some nice mods, dont need to upgrade them to full level just yet, focus on uphgrading mods that dont have any

[blissful atlas]

Is this Dual Toxocyst build any good? (As a start atleast) [i have the incarnon fully]

[fierce lark]

you really want some kind of punch through, ideally in place of sharpened bullets

otherwise it’s good

[undone dust]

the humble merciless gunfight:

[blissful atlas]

Thats the one from deimos? Crit dmg and punch through i mean

[undone dust]

it's from 1999

i think it drops from scaldra

[blissful atlas]

Oh, i remember that one...

The hella Tanky scaldra drops it if i remember correctly

[velvet pulsar]

Not as tanky as it used to be

[woven drift]

What's a great melee to use shock trooper with I haven't built syam up, my main built melees are
Hate, okina prime, gram prime, coda hirudo, thalys, and nami solo (all weapons that have their incarnon are equipped with it)
The frame I'm using is kullervo

[mighty flare]

only hate would find meaningful use here, the others can run influence fine

[spare lake]

Does dante proc archon intensify with light verse?

Nvm checked the wiki it does

[gaunt minnow]

I mean doesnt it heal you?

[spare lake]

Yeah verbage was just kind of weird tho it said it increased their health not that it gave inherent healing

[nocturne heron]

How should i build my vexoric

[spare lake]

Anyone got thoughts on what I could improve for my Dante? Thinking about changing out arcane concentration for molt aug for now till i get a leveled one.

Changed up my helminth and took the ability strength and just put it over to duration then took concentration off and put on molt augmented.

[karmic badger]

Ditch encumber, it's activation is only once per game tick, so you're getting far fewer procs than you should

[spare lake]

What should I use in place then?

[karmic badger]

Cascadia flare, or enervate

[spare lake]

Ill try out enervate im not going to use flare because then I lose the archon stretch synergy.

[karmic badger]

Just bring a companion to do either heat or electric...

[spare lake]

Wait flare works with companions procing heat??

[fierce lark]

encumber can trigger extra statuses for impetus

alternatively you just run elec on the companion and get archon stretch that way

[spare lake]

Ah that is true and the increased efficiency is nice since im spamming book and abilities

[fierce lark]

viral heat with flare is likely better dps overall

electric cucumber lets you slot a lot more ability str through bigger impetus & vome invocation

enervate would be a waste, gun has 30% base cc, creeping bullseye is plenty

either way you should prob use arcane velocity

[nocturne heron]

How do i build vexoric? (for fast charge)

[spare lake]

What should I do about energy economy I was thinking of letting go of constitution in favor of equilibrium

[olive birch]

which is better?

[woeful monolith]

Right side

[latent adder]

Left

[olive birch]

give reasoning please lollll

[simple frost]

between roar and nourish, which is better for influence build?

[wind cosmos]

roar

for the DOT damage

[simple frost]

i kinda assumed that nourish's viral also buff DOT damage?

[fierce lark]

harmless negative > no negative
unconditional base damage > crit chance with both galv scope & critical delay being better alternatives than serration

and bigger crit damage number is way more important being the most limited stat

[vagrant anvil]

Does a farming hydroid needs strength?
I need a build for him for farming

[astral tinsel]

It does, but it also dilutes the procs

and rawr triple dips

[sage idol]

Need some advice and insight if possible. Which of these is the better option?

[simple frost]

noted, thanks

[simple frost]

i'd say left
but i think you should keep rolling

[sage idol]

that was the plan :p

[simple frost]

-# you don't have 1m of those sitting there waiting for a torid riven one day?

[sage idol]

already rolled that one hehe

[vagrant anvil]

Jesus

[simple frost]

-# 10p for that? /j

[versed harbor]

status duration rip

[karmic badger]

There's 1 specific use case for that, demolisher nuking with Harmony

[astral tinsel]

or nezha spear nuke

[sage idol]

got it

[vagrant anvil]

No one here has a hydroid build for SP farming ?

[night laurel]

what are the shards you guys use with Harrow p?

[fierce lark]

2 cast 3 duration

[night laurel]

is strength not really necessary w him?

[fierce lark]

there's 20% duration missing from shards (and augur message should be constitution) but you get lots of both

equilibrium is flex if you don't subsume 3 or use a violet shard

[untold tapir]

i use the ice arcanes too but no cold stat procs from weapons just from abilities, spring and careen

love the frost bump, was my main aroubnd s[ecters of liberty

[coral plank]

Are there any other uses for Savage Silence other then the fast rank up?

[compact cypress]

how many stacks of viral would i need for smite to 1 shot?

nvm looks like its just 1

[pallid flame]

As someone who grabbed Lavos Prime when he first came out, and is reconsidering finally picking him up with arcane persistence, what do I need to know? I've been running Mecha on Koumei since I got her, but is it any different for Lavos?

[hard dove]

Ash bladestorm

[coral plank]

Hmmm

Ill try that out

[untold tapir]

my tenets dont rotate and when i reported it they asked for a video of the issue, like what are you talking about

they dont rotate every week how am i suppiosed to record that

[glass rampart]

chat

do we fw this gyre build

[midnight citrus]

Is Basmu S-tier weapon?

[glass rampart]

define s tier

[coral crest]

It's an ok weapon, very good if your frame can pass the augment

[midnight citrus]

Does it do so much damage that it almost feels like you're cheating.

is how I'd define it

[coral crest]

Nah not really, it's a very niche weapon to build

It's kind of a health tank weapon

Augment buffs it scaling with your hp

Full mag dump heals you

And it's great at priming/debilitate shenanigans

https://tenor.com/view/marge-i-just-think-theyre-neat-the-simpsons-neat-potato-gif-8549864

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[glass rampart]

what does this mean

[spark thorn]

https://overframe.gg/build/966177/

Thoughts?