builds-discussion

[gaunt sapphire]

i dont have augment

[hard dove]

And use those 2 augment

[gaunt sapphire]

i dont have

[hard dove]

You have 6k plat surely you can buyal a 12 plat mod

[gaunt sapphire]

no i do not

[hard dove]

Or if you have syndicate at r5

I forgot which syndicate have her

[gaunt sapphire]

its endo and alsoo im switching syndicates actively

[gaunt sapphire]

thats a perfect price, which do i prioritize

her crush augment seems like Natural Talent but a little better so maybe not that

[hard dove]

Crush augment armor strip as well

Although magnetize I'd say is better

[gaunt sapphire]

magnetized discharge is 14p

[hard dove]

Ok maybe augment is a plan for later

[gaunt sapphire]

no i will sell despoil since i dont play nekros like at all

[twin pine]

Hi fellow tenno

just wondering, what would be the usual gauss mods setup , is the one i have here good for neautral gameplay

(i had thief wit on for farming materials)

i dont have any primed mods yet, just started not long ago

[fierce lark]

if you swap out primed flow for regular, or umbral intensify, or drop equilibrium if you aren't using a subsume, you can run this for 0 forma

[sand bison]

Was messing around with a meme volt desiccation build and found out the cats duplicate when you die and revive lol

[twin pine]

thats a lot of mods i havent seen

so basically i just have to priositse durations, energy consumption?

[grim pivot]

what seems better here? 616cc with 12.3cd mult or 544cc with 14.3cd mult?

the weapon in question is hate btw

[fierce lark]

yeah gauss wants a lot of duration primarily

if you run any rank of aegis+fast deflection you can bug yourself to become immortal to everything except toxin damage, but otherwise his 2 at full battery gives him 100% damage resistance to all "kinetic" damage

[twin pine]

correct if i am wrong, each damage taken while 2nd skill reduce it by 1% on batts right?(on over clocked battery)

[hard dove]

It reduce it in any state but reaching 100% redline battery cannot go down at all

[twin pine]

ah, ok

[hard dove]

Which means for the remaining duration of redline
Gauss is effectively immortal (to kinetic dmg)

[twin pine]

ill keep that in mind

[fierce lark]

the idea is you max out battery, hit redline, keep the battery overcharged until redline reaches 100% and then you can do w/e you want until i tends

use mach rush or cold sunders to keep the battery charged

[twin pine]

[hard dove]

Or melee hit

[twin pine]

thanks for the advice, ill keep that in mind

[fierce lark]

if you don't use thermal transfer or any dps subsumes, you can drop strength entirely, it does pretty much nothing

either leave it at 100% or run negative if you have overextended

[hard dove]

Just don't drop it below 100% ideally if using plating

[abstract bison]

You want as much duration on gauss as humanly possible, base strength is good enough becauseee

Let’s think about this for a sec
You cast redline right then you buildup the battery to 100%

but the thing is, the process of getting the battery to 100% already takes a chunk of that time so realistically you’re only enjoying the damage invunerabilty for like 15 seconds of leftover duration if ya get what i mean

[white lion]

Do I make valid points or am I just stupid? 😭

[abstract bison]

And now you gotta recast redline and do it all over again lol

So my advice is to just dump everything onto duration so you enjoy that 100% battery longer

[hard dove]

You right

[white lion]

Thank you 😭

[swift flame]

Yo I really need your help I need nourish for my volt build bit I don't have it yet I I don't want to farm god knows how long to get it normally should I just buy the prime version to sacrifice or no?

[spiral chasm]

cant sack prime

[swift flame]

Fr?

[grim pivot]

to add to this, you might want to consider less duration if youre running void cascade for example, since you can get kidnapped and your abilities get deactivated (thanks DE) or you fight in a void tear and you end up below redline at like 30% or so

[swift flame]

So to complete my build I need to farm him normal 😭

[abstract bison]

So if your abilities are deactivated then what are we building for

What if we just took our old max duration build and put arcane concentration on top of that

[grim saddle]

Other than dual tox incarnon, what are other good secondary incarnons?

[fathom sky]

The other Incarnons

Basically all of 'em. Furis, Vasto are worth singling out

[grim pivot]

gauss

point is at some point its better to run lower duration to get redline faster for specific content, both from a armor strip and immunity perspective

i just gave you two examples of what happens in cascade

[quiet laurel]

low duration gauss for cascade is kinda bs tbh

less buffs

and redline isnt too important anyway

you just want to keep up battery

[violet silo]

have fun

[violet silo]

low duration gauss just feels like a crime

[quiet laurel]

doesnt feel like one, it is one

[violet silo]

my gauss has an 80 second redline rn, more when I swap the two normal reds for tau ones

[quiet laurel]

iirc I have 2 minutes

[violet silo]

and it feels so nice

[violet silo]

oh damn, narrow minded?

[quiet laurel]

of course

[violet silo]

I don't run it on my hybrid build

I forget about my platform build

iirc I do

[quiet laurel]

I wouldnt run gauss hybrid personally

[violet silo]

forget how long tho

[violet silo]

eh its fun to have options

[quiet laurel]

gauss nuke and weapons platform have so many mod differences that hybrid is so ass to build

[violet silo]

he's easily a strong platform, doesn't need much modding to work

[quiet laurel]

thermal transfer, strength and duration while also needing range for hybrid nuke part is really annoying

[violet silo]

no strength

just duration and range

[quiet laurel]

thermal transfer + subsume want strength

I assume for hybrid roar would be the smartest choice

[violet silo]

I don't subsume on hybrid

I just use the 2 when redline is maxed so I can get energy and melee benefits

:p

[quiet laurel]

can you deactivate his 2?

(I have never used his 2)

[violet silo]

yeah

im almost done building xaku for whisper tho

so I'll put that on the platform one and work on strength then

[quiet laurel]

whisper gauss with a melee is peak gameplay

and influence of course

[violet silo]

I assume melee/gun is very similar

kinda sad I have to cut the 2, the melee ability, for it tho

[quiet laurel]

for gun you can go EM

[violet silo]

gives 100% follow through and dmg on melees

[quiet laurel]

I dislike xata on guns unless its a very high dps one since its so headshot dependent

[violet silo]

I use incarnons too much to enjoy EM, so instead I run xata

or I will

xata sounds far more fun

[quiet laurel]

its fun when it procs on headshot

its not so fun when all your shots go to the torso

unless your weapon is so strong that it doesnt care for headshots/doesnt have headshot multi

like how its the case for dex pixia

[violet silo]

why not just aim high

[quiet laurel]

cause I am console

[violet silo]

wait does void work on beams

[quiet laurel]

yes

[violet silo]

hell yeah

WAITTT does void on beams carry over

chain beams

[quiet laurel]

and to add to this a lotta enemies have weird headshot hitboxes so even if your aim is good the game can still f you over

[quiet laurel]

wdym by carry over

chained beams can proc it too afaik

but then its just gonna be torso proc

[violet silo]

so would the chains auto target heads?

oh yeah nvm

do chain beams always go for the torso

[quiet laurel]

most do

iirc boar auto aims for heads

but dont quote me on that

Ima look at wiki rly quick

[violet silo]

I CARE NOT. IT STILL SOUNDS FUN.

[quiet laurel]

couldnt find anything on the wiki

god I love it when the wiki leaves out important details

[drowsy pelican]

Which is better and should I keep rolling?

[brittle sleet]

Right and yes

[drowsy pelican]

That was lucky

[frank matrix]

does anyone have a good braton prime incarnon build?

[broken cliff]

Does anyone understand koumei enough to help me with a build im working on. Im using sickening pulse over her 2 because i dont rlly do anything longer than like 30 mins to an hour so I don’t get a ton of use out of her decrees. I’m trying to mainly use her 1 and 4 and use the amprex with corrosive so I can spread full armor strip with sickening pulse. Is this viable or should I be building her entirely different? I wanna use her as a caster

[granite mantle]

so close

which 1 is better?

[quiet laurel]

right by a long shot

actually HALT

I thought it was all positive

[granite mantle]

no 🙁

[quiet laurel]

left but -reload hurts

[granite mantle]

and between this 2?

[quiet laurel]

right

[granite mantle]

fr?

[quiet laurel]

you get toxin from the passive and multishot is highest priority stat

[granite mantle]

alr ty

[white lion]

Any Saryn lovers got a good build?

[rocky aurora]

blast with Xata's is one of the best ways to deal massive damage with Beam weapons, particularly something like the Torid. Corrosive+blast+Xata's easily goes to lvl cap when built correctly, because this interaction causes Faction damage multipliers to be applied 3 times instead of the normal 2 times with status damage.

Have an external source of fire rate or just literally any outside form of buff and it wipes everything instantly

specifically vs groups of enemies, since Blast is a small aoe

[valid cargo]

How does breach surge work on kullervo?

[violet silo]

in other words, xata+chain beam+gus is insane combo

unfortunately, I hate faction dmg mods but if I was doing lvl cap I would be running them ig

[rocky aurora]

Would never use breach surge on kullervo

But if you want to, it works just like any frame you would use it on

[violet silo]

ig it could, but ew

there's like no benefits

[rocky aurora]

Well, faction mods are the best way to multiply damage and double dip on that multiplier on status damage

[violet silo]

I run shock on kullervo, there's probably better options but it's fun and lets me do more stuff when modding melees

[rocky aurora]

🤷‍♂️ blast deals status damage, hence why

[violet silo]

yeah I just would never remember to swap my builds every mission

if I was doing lvl cap I would do it as part of the setup but I don't do lvl cap

[rocky aurora]

If youre running grineer -> corpus -> corrupted back to back then sure ig, I almost exclusively fight again grineer and corrupted which are the only factions you realistically face in fissure nodes that are worth running

And the quick-swap on the left hand side of the star chart makes it 10x easier to just swap config

Infested dont even need a faction mod 😆

[valid cargo]

I tried it and with his 3rd it chains around like crazy

[rocky aurora]

Everything should be dead before it can proc imo

Breach surge is a great ability, dunno about putting on kullervo

[pure gate]

Which weapon should I use with Divine Retribution? Coda Mire or Dark Sword, apparently Dark sword has the highest raw damage among slam weapons and I've only seen glaze from Coda Mire and that Dark sword is just a diet version of it.

[drowsy pelican]

Does scarab shell proc rage?

[mighty flare]

yes thats correct, coda mire > dark sword
other good weapons are arca titron, furis incarnon, or the boar incarnon

[rocky aurora]

Thats probably because coda mira heavy slam has a 18% cc 2.4x CD, dark sword is like 5% cc and 1.5x cd

[pure gate]

Dark sword has higher riven dispo, if I get a riven for it does it compare?

[mighty flare]

no

[rocky aurora]

Not even close

200% cc on dark sword doesnt bring it up to match coda mire base heavy slam cc

[mighty flare]

coda mire has usable crit stats and get valence buffs, a riven doesnt beat that
dont listen to moug

[rocky aurora]

Who's moug?

Youtuber?

[mighty flare]

the person that started the dark sword hype train

[rocky aurora]

🤷‍♂️

[mighty flare]

even though it was all to sell rivens and ppl fell for it

[pure gate]

Alr lol, js need to ask, do status procs like toxin DOT go after weapon damage?

[rocky aurora]

Elaborate?

[pure gate]

Like if I hit an enemy with 100 dmg w/toxin, will the DOT be also 100?

[rocky aurora]

No

[mighty flare]

raw dmg and dot dmg follow different calculations

never the same

[pure gate]

Oh alr, I thought they at least account each other

[rocky aurora]

Toxin status damage follows this

[vocal vector]

Im still kinda conflicted on how to build the zarr, should I just go for viral slash w hunter munitions? Or smthing else?

[old marsh]

Both really good. Dark Sword relies on dot dmg. Mire is hybrid but mostly like Magistar leans over crit

[mighty flare]

viralhm is still a consistent build for zarr without a specific platformer like cyte
but with extra buffs just raw dmg is fine

[valid cargo]

@rocky aurora silence should be good instead?

[rocky aurora]

Silence with its augment or roar are typically pretty good

[vocal vector]

Im looking for general use, not for a specific build with a frame

[rocky aurora]

Thats what they answered with

[vocal vector]

I could bump up crit chance to 100% cuz I have a riven so I could mathematically guarantee hunter munitions procs on every shot

[valid cargo]

@rocky aurora

[rocky aurora]

Ok 🤷‍♂️

[fierce lark]

if you're looking for more damage on kullervo, pick between roar or shock trooper

nourish just takes away from elec weighting for influence, you don't need viral to kill things on kullervo of all frames

[valid cargo]

My weapon already has influence

[rocky aurora]

Not the point lol

[fierce lark]

yeah but influence triggers sooner when you have more % damage that says electricity

[rocky aurora]

Shock trooper is non-combinable electric

So you don't need to mod for electric if you use shock trooper

[fierce lark]

shock just lets you do things like use the burning hate augment with influence

[rocky aurora]

And with kullervo, you should be running high strength so the extra electric damage % from shock trooper should be huuuge

[fierce lark]

and otherwise adds additional electric weighting on top of what you have modded, and then more modded electric damage also buffs the electric dot itself

roar is just roar, final multiplier if you aren't running smite and it double dips dots + triple dips influence procs

[rocky aurora]

Mainly helps out with weapons that have a base non-IPS element damage like toxin (dual ichor for example) or something special like Hate

[valid cargo]

Ok ill swap breach with roar then

[rocky aurora]

So you dont have to mod in like 3 element mods

[fierce lark]

i think roar also double dips on collective curse if you're using that for w/e reason

[valid cargo]

Wahta about okina and nami solo?

[rocky aurora]

Roar double dips on all status damage

[rocky aurora]

What about them, specifically?

[ocean solar]

anyone got a sibear build?

[fierce lark]

nami solo is top 1 influence trash-clearing melee in the game, okina i think is #3 or something

[rocky aurora]

Worse magistar 🥀

[ocean solar]

maybe

[rocky aurora]

And with kullervo theyre both absolute monsters up to lvl cap 🤷‍♂️

[ocean solar]

but like, do you have a build for it

[rocky aurora]

Nah, have never touched beyond MR xp

Looking at its incarnon bonuses, well....it's kind of ahh

[valid cargo]

Im kind curious about sampotes for kullervo but egh i dont k ow

[rocky aurora]

Sampotes is cool for the slam waves

[valid cargo]

But is it building it for kullervo? If we take into account the slam nerfs

[fierce lark]

kullervo will make any melee weapon good, you really don't need to overthink it

[quiet laurel]

Wish the waves scaled the combo correctly

Gotta use hypebuffers to make it good

[old marsh]

It’s fine. I think I saw a video where someone said that it hits the 1999 tank’s weakpoints. Never tested it.

If that’s true then that’s cool

[valid cargo]

@fierce lark Alright time to slap a reactor

[ocean solar]

anyone got a sibear build

[granite ginkgo]

lowkey slam build, or check out ninjase incarnon version

[ocean solar]

where do i see that

also what should i include in a slam build

[granite ginkgo]

just the seimis wave mod, the rest is heavy swing speedup

https://overframe.gg/build/298056/sibear/sibear-incarnon-5x-slam/

[ocean solar]

ight ty

[small river]

does ash benefit from summoner's wrath?

[frank matrix]

is Latron Incarnon stronger than braton Incarnon?

[coral crest]

No, his shadow clones are a weird exalted weapon

[kindred raft]

would overloading this with different types of status be good for this weapon

[keen rover]

do mesa regulators actually run out of ammo or is the 100 mag cap actually ‘infinite’

[tiny forge]

Not sure where to ask, but I managed to roll this glaxion Riven. I've heard good things about the glaxion, so im not looking for Groll advice to sell it, just want to know if this is a viable riven to slot, or if im better off rolling for something else?

[vagrant lagoon]

ay L/R

[mortal canyon]

heyo, does primary debilitate works with acceltra ? or mainly with shottys ?

[vocal vector]

Anyone got a recommendation for a wild frenzy grakata build?

[boreal sandal]

Should I even be using riven for tenet arca plasmor. Mine is toxin innate too🥲 so not even a free element combination

Dont even got the 60/60 heat mod. maybe should i try to make a corrosive cold + primary frostbite with this riven?

[fallow shale]

Does anyone have a Zylok Prime build that functions similarly to the Malfeasance from Destiny 2?

[grim pivot]

building hate rn, 616cc with 12.3cd mult or 544cc with 14.3cd mult?

[severe arrow]

What is the best Zaw setup for a 1 handed sword?

[marsh marsh]

[severe arrow]

Mewan Korh Vargeet 2 Ruhang?

[vapid pivot]

Does adaptation and lunar eclipse stack? Or is it better to run some other survival mod on mirage?

[latent latch]

What is s good uriel build for steel path?

[stray depot]

anyone have a good build for corinth prime?

[winged ermine]

so i have oraxia and im working on getting the kuva sobek does anyone know a build i was told the sobek is good for her

[old marsh]

heat yes. toxin no. u want to increase the weighting of heat as much as possible if u r going for viral heat. otherwise u can go for corrosive cold

[velvet pulsar]

U say this and then I remember DE giving us primed toxin mod for archguns

[old marsh]

but not primed toxin for primary

[velvet pulsar]

I can't handle the weighting in archguns if I use that mod

[old marsh]

i honestly cant remember which primed ones we have for primaries. cold i remember. any others?

[velvet pulsar]

Shotguns got an electric one?

Maybe I'm misremembering

[old marsh]

ye. charged shell

[vocal vector]

what survivability is used on vauban usually?

[old marsh]

rolling guard or umbral set

pick your poison

[vocal vector]

hows his 3? ive heard that it has scaling problems for higher levels

[winter charm]

Can anyone send me an endgame sevagoth so I can compare with mine

[vocal vector]

and rolling guard alone isnt good enough for higher levels anyways, and armor is just useless

so it still needs something else

[old marsh]

thats what i have subsumed nourish over.

[old marsh]

i do have aegis and brief respite. i honestly havent taken him to ETA and EDA so thats all i got

[vocal vector]

maybe ill slap on gloom and shield gate

[abstract bison]

are the +40% direct damage per status type evolutions on incarnons stronger than what galvanized aptitude/shot has because they don't seem to have a stack limit?

[fierce lark]

no, because as you can see it has the worst disposition on the planet

you could maybe slot this over a toxin mod in a viral+elec build

[empty owl]

what riven stats do i need for braton incarnon ?

[fierce lark]

the ones that turn it into a burston

no uhh

same as anything else, cd cc ms dmg pt tox

negative rec zoom max

[stray mural]

On and off player for years, came back and saw uriels kit and got him and vinquibis with what I have for mods, how's this and where should I go next?

My vinquib is multishot/crit based atm, I can post that if it helps my reasonhing

[fierce lark]

depending on the flavor of uriel you're looking for, you either want max range with some str/dur for 4 nuke based, or lots of str/dur for platform based with 3 + a subsume

worthy comraderie is kind of a support meme, the amount of crit it gives is very minor (additive with crit mods on your guns), corrosive projection will give you the best output in the majority of circumstances

redirection and tankiness mods in general aren't super helpful, his 2 is just about a full heal that also cleanses statuses and leaves him immune during the cast. if you want to use the vitality polarity, throw overextended in there

[stray depot]

once again asking if anyone has good builds for corinth prime? i wanna use this thing way more but idk how to build shotties

[stray mural]

I'm still in the process of getting Helminth, how much should I invest before I get there? I wanna go max range+nuke with the 4 cause I absoloutely love it.

[trim hill]

You can replace the riven with Elementalist

[stray depot]

where can i get narrow barrel

[fierce lark]

le standard nonspecific shotgun viralec build

[stray depot]

and what forma grade is it

[abstract bison]

i wonder if debilitate would be good on the corinth bc the alt fire has guaranteed blast procs

[stray depot]

like how many formas i mean

[fierce lark]

debilitate is useless for blast builds

[abstract bison]

yummy yummy dot's

[fierce lark]

blast resets to 0 stacks after you reach 10

[trim hill]

Necralisk Bounties for Narrow Barrel, and my Corinth is 5 forma, but you can do 4 without the riven

[stray depot]

i was afraid you would say that

[tight prawn]

OUF... I'm not a good help for builds, I just like... improvise. I put everything in damage and elementary stuff and BOOM it makes explosions. I love making explosion

[abstract bison]

so it doesnt proc heat or cold when blast reaches 10 stacks?

[stray depot]

my luck with necralisk bounties hasnt been great

[fierce lark]

it does, but 1 proc every 10 stacks is nowhere near close enough to being worth considering for the arcane slot

debilitate is niche as is

[abstract bison]

maybe good cc if they don't die after lol

[trim hill]

I tried Debilitate, but you don't procc status fast enough. One or two virals off one airburst is enough to get some good dmg on the buckshot, tho.

[abstract bison]

galv savvy is also on the build

but yeah then again the direct dmg bonus doesn't apply on aoes

[crisp pine]

does anyone know what to do with this? I have norish verison of this build as well. I have either problems with suriviabilty on norish or I have problem with energy on omamori. This happens a lot in rebillon though where energy is harder to come by

[stray depot]

EVERYONE USES DEADHEAD ITS THE ONE ARCANE THAT DOESNT DROP IN SP AAAAAGH

For me anyways

[crisp pine]

there a bunch now that fill that role.

[fierce lark]

buy one from market, a max rank is like 20p

[trim hill]

If it makes you feel any better, my Corinth uses Merciless 👀

[urban cave]

How should I be building my styanax?

[stray depot]

you know that does actually

[fierce lark]

the one i posted is just primary fire "lol shotgun go brr"

[abstract bison]

oh so you use the airburst as a primer or something and then give them the buckshot

heat cold primer anyone?

[trim hill]

Ye, airburst for AOE viral, then one-tap buckshots on each enemy. They bleed to death well past lvl300

[crisp pine]

does anyone have any tips to getting my titania in better shape?

[abstract bison]

you know what i'm gonna try the debiltate build haha

same mods just different arcane

[urban cave]

I just got here after like 2 years. XD i need to learn how to play again on my gauss and my styanax. Then i get back to my primes xD

[stray depot]

ok so i need chilling reload, cannonade and i think elementalist

[urban cave]

Is volt still good?

[trim hill]

Lol, good luck. The primary fire doesn't have too much status to make full use of multishot, imo

[stray depot]

and obv narrow chamber

[abstract bison]

i think the status in the ui for shotguns is per pellet before multishot right?

[trim hill]

Imho, Narrow Barrel is just preference. If you want any exilus at all, you can use just about any of them. I stay away from projectile speed on the Corinth, tho, because I want my airburst to stay somewhat close anyways

[abstract bison]

so if a shotgun before multishot shoots buckshot with 4 pellets and the screen says 15% then it should be 60% if all pellets hit uhhh

[trim hill]

Yeah, Corinth's buckshot status is still somewhat on the lower side. That's why I still use HM in the big 26

[abstract bison]

hasta la vista

[fierce lark]

unless you're a completionist, or you're building a gun that you plan on using for a long time (not just to try it for fun), and you have unlimited forma/don't care about buying more, you should avoid exilus on weapons

[abstract bison]

mmm hammar shot

[stray depot]

i want a good shotgun period and rn corinth is fun to use

[trim hill]

Honestly hell yeah

I wouldn't recommend HM on too many primaries these days, but Corinth is one of the few that still performs better with it than not. Ofc, if you don't like the bleed builds, then you can still alter my build to your liking

[urban cave]

And how should i differentiate volt and gauss? Im guessing crit chance on volt and flat/multiplicatives on gauss?

[deep grotto]

Wdym

They’ve got so many more differences??

[versed harbor]

their differences are basically completely unrelated to crit other than like volts shield ig

[urban cave]

I know they use speed differently, like with gauss you are running a bullet train and with volt you are stacking for weapon/total movement speed

Usually crit chance scales with DPS

[fierce lark]

21x20% is low status??

[trim hill]

Yeah, compared to other shotties in its bracket, it sure is

[versed harbor]

ur overcomplicating it tbh you can build those two completely seperate to their weapons

[urban cave]

I barely ever use weapons on gauss. XD usually just drive by spray or chaku

[fierce lark]

okay if its low compared to other pellet shotguns, that doesn't mean it itself is low lol

it's definitely not low enough to drop primed elec for hunter munitions

[urban cave]

Volt tho, he gets weapon zoomies

[versed harbor]

you could consider using volts reload speed, melee speed, electric buffs and shield to support his weapons or u could just use anything you want

[boreal sandal]

Would you rather use vile acceleration or rifle elementalist on blast/corro torid. Or use both and sacrifice elemental mod ( possibly the 60/60 mod)

[trim hill]

It is, actually. Electric didn't do nearly as much damage in my testing as HM due to HM's unique slash scaling

[versed harbor]

gauss you could consider using his fire rate / melee speed buffs or you could also run heat inherit weapons to support his thermal sunder

[urban cave]

Reload too yeah, and thanks for the electric reminder. I nromally shy from it as I was last active in like... lmao duviri

[mellow jewel]

is it worth to mod for status chance on a melee with 10% status?

[fierce lark]

HM's damage scaling is not good, that's why it got dropped from every build as soon as armor was nerfed

[versed harbor]

ye electric is cracked, probably the best damage over time you can get rly

[trim hill]

HM scales from a weapon's base damage. It's way more powerful than typical slash status scaling

[urban cave]

Heat inherit? Hmmm yes i do like sunder support

[urban cave]

Good to know!

Spark Speed vs Thermics. Which should be duh lmao

[abstract bison]

wheeze

[mellow jewel]

Kuva ogris?

[fierce lark]

this is how all slash statuses work

[abstract bison]

corinth prim

[mellow jewel]

I need to revisit mine

[trim hill]

If you are already hitting for 5x crits and can't reliably procc many status effects per shot, HM will take all of your damage on your weapon and give you a reliable DOT that you can take advantage of

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-drawing-tablet-scold-tired-gif-7084813469604986995

[trim hill]

Only really worth considering if you don't have much fire rate or status and your crit is already stupid high

[stray depot]

i would really like it if chilling reload would drop for me considering all im getting is fricking STREAMLINED FORM

[fierce lark]

you aren't just getting a free status effect though, you're losing a 165% elemental damage mod for it

[trim hill]

I mean, I've tried both builds. The HM build always came out on top. Not that much faster, but enough to save ~1 shot per enemy

Electricity scales a lot better when you can procc two billion status

[old marsh]

Sell that and buy chilling reload. Ez

[abstract bison]

yeah they die before they even get 10 stacks for debilitate to proc

[vagrant anvil]

Anyone here can help me build the Thalys?
I dont know which evolutions and whats a good build for it

[stray depot]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

ill do a few more nightmares and see if i get it

[vagrant anvil]

@stray depot I have 5 copies want one ? I gift it to u

U mean the cold shotgun mod right ?

[stray depot]

chilling reload yeah

[abstract bison]

my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

[vagrant anvil]

Ive got it multiple times @stray depot

[old marsh]

That’s my approach to all stuff in the game. Sell excess, buy stuff u couldn’t get

[stray depot]

i got a rending strike

[abstract bison]

oh wait i forgor to put galv acceleration back into the exilus

[vagrant anvil]

If u want it u can have one

[stray depot]

yeah ik give me a moment im in mission rn

[old marsh]

Any reason u have shell shock over primed charged shell?

[abstract bison]

forma

[frank matrix]

is this latron prime incarnon build any good ?

im going to replace primed bane of orokin for gal aptitude

[abstract bison]

primary deadhead can't keep getting away with it

[stray depot]

ok yeah hit me

[vagrant anvil]

Is this your ign?

[stray depot]

nah ill dm

[vagrant anvil]

I see

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-zoning-out-cat-stare-black-cat-black-cat-tiktok-stare-gif-6568742496074847242

[stray depot]

thanks agent

[vagrant anvil]

No problem

I've got it multiple times
No need to waste plat

[plain drum]

whats a good secondary for fortifier aside from like epitaph or smth

[trim hill]

I just checked Overframe, just FYI, your forma count should be way less than 5

[trim hill]

When I use Fortifier, I use it on Twin Rogga

[stray depot]

its already 3

do i have to get semi shotgun from the ascension game mode or can i buy it from a vendor

[trim hill]

If you don't run a riven, you only should need to add 2 Vs and maybe 1 D

[trim hill]

Ascension or trading only, iirc

[brittle sleet]

Your best secondaries for this will usually be the ones that are already reasonably strong without needing extra status, extra crit, extra headshot multiplier, or base damage from their arcane slot. So generally the closer you get to the top of the meta picks the more well-suited they'll be for it. Laetum and Dual Toxocyst are up towards the peak of that as examples

[stray depot]

once again the worst luck imaginable lmao

[fierce lark]

underframe is telling me hm is better if you never headshot and elec is better if you do, even if only occasionally

[trim hill]

I tested both of mine with all headshots. Priming with alt-fire first, right?

[fierce lark]

nope just holding m1

nothing lives long enough to justify spending the time to press altfire, ttk on a lvl 500 sp heavy gunner unstripped (with corro projection) is less than 2 seconds, without any other external buffs including companion

[trim hill]

Problem with Corinth is that I'm probably not running it just to never alt-fire, especially with how useful it is

[fierce lark]

if you pre-prime with viral from altfire, anything should die in 1-2 shots tbh

hm shouldn't even have time to tick

[trim hill]

One shot, HM usually ticks 1-2 times till death when fully ramped

Electric would be good, but it skews the AOE weight too much for my liking. I'd rather get more viral proccs from the airburst and then get as much elec from the buckshot as possible

Either way, they are both good builds, just HM is much cheaper and still a viable pick on Corinth specifically

[night nexus]

How do yall build gas on a melee wepon

[fierce lark]

by playing ceramic dagger

coiling viper forward combo has a forced lifted so you can do 12x gas afflictions on whips

[late ice]

Can someone help figure out if this gyre build is responsible for having me survive at 2 shield and 1 hp

FYI, Im not familiar with gyre im just testing how she feels

[trim hill]

Probably not Gyre specifically that let you survive at 2/1, lol. But it seems like a solid enough build, so you should be plenty tanky

[spiral chasm]

thats alot of shields

[late ice]

But like how tho? Im not using anything special

[late ice]

Ikik, just copying ninjase builds

[karmic badger]

The arcane lmao

[late ice]

At least i think its ninjase

[karmic badger]

300% power strength being applied to your shield capacity

[late ice]

Ik expertise + molt aug combo

[trim hill]

It's a lot of shields, but surviving at specifically 2 shields and 1 health is probably just RNG

Unless you had something else that prevented your death

[late ice]

But i saw another gyre surviving a similar shield and hp, i cant find the clip for the life of me

I dont have anything that can keep me alive like that, i dont have overguard abilities or arcanes or vazarin on

This feels disgusting

[karmic badger]

I really should farm gyre prime, my luck has been terrible for her though, literally got Ember prime by accident

[fierce lark]

that's not a ninjase build

[celest thicket]

is it better primary frostbite or bulwark in this build ?

the riven is
elec
tox
damage
-impact

[late ice]

Thx for clarifying

[fierce lark]

xd i know his gyre builds, one is high range lazy gate and the other is mecha nuke, expertise shield tank isn't one ive seen

[rocky aurora]

Ocucor, furis inc, mesa's regulators are some other good ones

[late ice]

I was just tryna find the best pillage gyre build

[fierce lark]

this is probably okay? im not sure how reverse rotorswell interacts with shield gate

madurai sling strength with stacked molt + projection is a full strip on pillage, otherwise without operator it's still ~94%

[novel bear]

More shields is bad on most frames

[fierce lark]

styanax off the top rope

[late ice]

I doubt that will be too much an issue

[fierce lark]

well i mean like i don't know if it redirects damage that you're immune to or what it does

the setup assumes you survive via shieldgating with 1 spam

which idk if it even has the energy economy to do that lol just something i thought of off the dome

i use gyre to drop my balls and shoot out of them (pause)

[stray depot]

@trim hill im missing only cannonade now

[trim hill]

In the meantime, you can sub it for either galv sav or point blank

[stray depot]

i do have prime point blank

[proud anchor]

Frostbite since you already have serration and aptitude for base damage

[stray depot]

actually i lied

i still need elemantalist

[fierce lark]

if you have any external sources of fire rate, cannonade is likely worse than ppb anyway

[stray depot]

which is once again. ascension

[trim hill]

That's one of the reasons I don't use it on Arca Plasmor. Plasmor without fire rate feels absolutely horrible

[fierce lark]

i actually did use it on the arca plasmor for a long time, for the sole reason that it has multico

and the locked fire rate means you can run it with a non-rbond primer companion without losing anything

[mellow palm]

Do you use any frame with high armor? If not, doesn't make sense to use it and bulwark is i'm not sure if it's additive to serration or not

[fierce lark]

bulwark is additive to serration

[mellow palm]

Just like merciless and deadhead?

Alrighty then

[trim hill]

I just can't stand that slow fire rate. Otherwise, yeah, it certainly hits like a freight train, lol

[fierce lark]

the reason i stopped using it was because the primary arcanes are all ass

[stray depot]

this mod doesnt exist. it refuses to drop

[fierce lark]

and tap can't headshot so you cant even use it with crux

[stray depot]

imma crash tf out

[fierce lark]

i tried savvy + cannonade + shotgun vendetta for awhile, but vendetta is awful to use

so it's just merciless

also if you're using crux then cannonade kinda kills its main benefit, being able to spam with ammo efficiency, you can't spam when your gun shoots like a snail

[fathom sky]

I definitely wouldn't do Cannonade on Plasmor

[quiet laurel]

plasmor wants fire rate

[trim hill]

I thought it could headshot, just doesn't have/scale with any headshot mults?

[fierce lark]

i dont think it can headshot at all, cause you usually hear the crunch sound effect when you headshot

like the bassocyst is essentially the same type of gun, but it can headshot

[trim hill]

It proccs Laser Pointer iirc

[fierce lark]

i can check rq

oh no it does

huh

[trim hill]

Wiki says it has a headshot mult of 1x, but idk about actually building it for headshots

At least Laser Pointer is ezpz crit with Plasmor

Apparently, Deadhead is actually really good with it because of the ez headshots when not building for status damage? Can anyone verify?

[fierce lark]

i think on tap i'd rather have the reload speed from merciless

[stray depot]

do yall know the definition of insanity?

[fierce lark]

and then not have to worry about aiming for heads with the big wide projectile

[stray depot]

current build rn

[trim hill]

It's not really a worry, tho. It's incredibly easy to hit heads.

But that reload speed is really nice, ngl

[fierce lark]

which is funny to say because im running deadhead on bassocyst

over 2x the mag size hits diff

[trim hill]

Toxin + Magnetic? Fightin Corpos?

[fierce lark]

(that and the fact that it actually does something when you shoot heads with it)

[stray depot]

accension is just corpos rn so yeah

[fierce lark]

don't do mag+tox, do pure mag or pure toxin

[stray depot]

corpos

[trim hill]

Them dang corpos

[fierce lark]

they cancel each other out, one ignores shields while the other does more damage to shields

[trim hill]

Tbf, the magnetic also deals extra damage to overguard

I'd probably run lower mag and higher toxin, tho

Unless you don't have elec 60/60

[stray depot]

im tryna get this build going

[fierce lark]

if you're using toxin at all, magnetic is mostly useless, it's effectively doing 0 damage to non-eximus

you should do double toxin + cleanse corpus

cleanse double dips the dot, which is also good against eximus

[stray depot]

im not making a specific corpus build tho im doing this just cause its acension so i can get the mods i want for that build i replied too

[vestal lintel]

which one should i make better for zephyr?armour, hp or shield

[trim hill]

Yeah, my build is a generalist build. Depends how tough the corpis are for you to kill for that farm

[stray depot]

theyre not which is the issue

they wont drop

the frickin mods!

cause this game HATES me

[fierce lark]

you could always buy them from players

[stray depot]

i dont wanna buy them for plat

[fierce lark]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stray depot]

and idk what mods i have to trade them for

this is the only option

[fierce lark]

time is money, everything buys and everything sells, there are multiple options but you've chosen this one

[stray depot]

i also only have like 15p

so like

pennies

[trim hill]

I'd say go pure magnetic. You won't procc too much toxin per each buckshot, and the magnetic airburst will basically shield-sunder big groups of enemies for you to clean up.

Or you can swap it out for another weapon/rely on a strong secondary while you farm

[fierce lark]

cheapest sell for both shotgun cannonade and elementalist rn is 7p

[fierce lark]

you don't need toxin status, toxin damage itself ignores shields as well

[burnt surge]

What’s a good build for the xrios for the sister mini game?

[trim hill]

Does it really? I thought it was just the DOT

[fierce lark]

nope, all toxin damage bypasses shields, that's why you can't run arcane resistance on gauss and make him a literal god

and why you randomly fall over dead sometimes when you're doing steel path endurance looting and a toxin eximus exists in your personal space for 0.1 seconds

[trim hill]

That's actually huge. I thought it was only the status effect...

Gonna have to revisit some of my anti-corpus builds

[vestal lintel]

What's more important on zephyr? Hp, armour or shield?

[brittle sleet]

Ability duration 👍

[stray depot]

CANNONADE

I GOT IT OH MY GOD

[vestal lintel]

No

[stray depot]

gave me every other version of elementalist though i wanna eat my hands

[trim hill]

Yeah, I didn't interpret that as the damage itself ignoring shields, but the status effect's damage

[quiet laurel]

you dont mod survivability on zephyr

rolling guard maybe for statuses

[trim hill]

For Zephyr, rolling guard for status cleanse and duration/range so that your Turbulence can more consistently redirect enemy projectiles away from you

[misty cloud]

does anyone have a good frost snowglobe build my excavators keep getting one shotted

[vestal lintel]

Hm idk if i should use overextended or narro minded on zephyr, or both but idk

[quiet laurel]

overextended, no narrow minded

[trim hill]

Uuuh, this is my defense Frost build, but no Chilling Globe. Subbed Fractured Blast over 1 for orbs to get more armor for globes

[misty cloud]

tyvm

[vestal lintel]

hm

How does range effect the tornado? Does it change the pulling range of them?

[hard dove]

Yes

[stray depot]

https://tenor.com/view/jisoo-bp-blackpink-smoking-done-gif-16230922501262372137

got it

how do you make corrosive again?

[quiet laurel]

elec tox

[hard dove]

Does venato have a gimmick? Or just a good scythe?

[hexed sundial]

Inflicts tau status effect on hit

I think it might only be for the prime variant though

I forgot

[hard dove]

Damn should not have sold that for ducats
Thx

[hexed sundial]

Welcome

It’s a decent weapon but the tau doesn’t get spread by influence unfortunately

A lot of other weapons like incarnons easily outclass it

So dw

[wicked vortex]

hey can someone help me make a build for coda catabolyst i don't really know what i'm doing

[trim hill]

Synth Charge, my friend

[wicked vortex]

i literally just swapped synth charge with galvanized diffusion right before taking the screenshot 😭

[hard dove]

Unfortunate progen but do viral heat/elec with secondary ennervate

[wicked vortex]

i mean i prob have enough 1999 standing to get the valence element

is primed fulmination necessary?

[trim hill]

Tbf, you need diffusion too, lol.

I also run a Cascadia Flare + Heat build over elec, personally

No, you don't really need fulm. It throws three grenades in a horizontal fan, plenty AOE already

[wicked vortex]

alright cool

[hard dove]

It also doesn't effect the actual beam iirc so wasted for 80% of the gun use

[wicked vortex]

so something like this?

[hard dove]

Add lethal torrent and a cdmg since you're using ennervate

[wicked vortex]

cdmg?

[trim hill]

Yurr. Also consider beam length in exilus

[hard dove]

Crit dmg

[wicked vortex]

i don't have that mod yet :p

[wicked vortex]

what would i swap out for those?

[hard dove]

Wht does stunning spd do again?

[wicked vortex]

oh i guess i do have phc, i just was accidentally filtering for madurai lol

[wicked vortex]

40% reload speed 30% status chance

[hard dove]

On my build i replaced those 2 with torrent and cdmg

Replaced reload spd i mean

[wicked vortex]

gotcha

i'll try primed target cracker since i'm already getting multishot from diffusion

now to farm credits and endo to get these mods ranked :P

what valence element should i ideally use?

[hard dove]

Mag

[wicked vortex]

that makes sense, i was struggling to get rid of overguard when using it in void cascade

thanks everyone :3

done! at least, until i get that beam length mod

[willow otter]

I'm having issues building limbo (mostly in general) for public lobbies. Anyone have any notes

[trim hill]

Public lobbies, go bowling

[proud anchor]

You could try lower range

[near vortex]

Low range bad
High range good

Low range good for defense
High range good everywhere else

[hard dove]

If you cast 4 and then 3 you can send enemies into 4rift while they're not inside the bubble
Then if you want to remove all thoe enemies just hold 1
But yeah it's tough all around for Limbo
Either he adapts or the team adapts

[proud anchor]

For public wouldnt high range be bad since it kinda screws with other players?

[hard dove]

Well screw em

[near vortex]

Bigger bubble means your team can chill inside it more comfortably

It's not like anything's gonna hit them

[hard dove]

Low range is nice for something like defense

[proud anchor]

I know he doesnt effect caster frames or exalted weapons at all so I guess it depends on the team

[near vortex]

Limbo doesn't effect casters, exalteds or Acid Shells nukers

There's probably more that I'm forgetting

[hard dove]

Also if it's like optimized defense negative range but not super low is quite helpful

And add silence on top of it so the target is pretty much untouchable

[near vortex]

Wish Limbo's VFX weren't still stuck in 2014

[near vortex]

Low range silence? Not sure about that one

[hard dove]

Long enough to reach eximus unit that tries to target the defense target

I didn't say narrow minded and no range mods

[near crater]

What are some benchmark glaive mods? I got an orvius that I need to level up. Don't think about using it after I'm done. Just wanna know

[near crater]

Dedicated indicators would be a good start

[near vortex]

I wish Limbo's allies had better rift access
Like if they had Rift Walk while within Limbo's affinity range suddenly they no longer have no access to the Rift while Limbo is busy doing Limbo things

Imagine allies got pulled in by Rift Surge, that would be cool

[hard dove]

That would probably be annoying to some people

[willow otter]

Guess the issue truly is I have a weapons issue

Damn me and my rule against Incarnons...

[hard dove]

Yeah limbo is an amazing platform with augment for 3

I'm talking 1k eclipse at like 180ish str

[near vortex]

Being pulled into the Rift when they're nearby Rifted enemies that get surged?
That can't be annoying, being able to shoot the enemies right next to you

[willow otter]

I've been trying a few weapons that have felt anemic, but I guess that just means I should stop being foolish and use the tools I have

[near crater]

I have like 40 meters (not sure if radius or diameter) of cataclysm in on build. Paired with stasis to keep them at the border while they have surge on them to pop them back into the rift, once outside the bubble, let's everyone theoretically chill inside.

If only they would actually chill.

[willow otter]

How does Rift Surge even work, almost feels like nothing gets tagged when I use it?

[hard dove]

If the limbo is min range for example
Rolling for rolling guard or for movement or for melee careen or that one steal overguard arcane and now you suddenly have to roll again to leave rift
Having rift walk while near enemies that are in rift would probably be better tho

[near vortex]

Rolling Guard on Limbo?

[willow otter]

Or when I kill a tagged enemy, pardon

[near crater]

Small note: if riftbound enemies also have rift surge, you need to Unbanish twice, because the surge pops them back inside, when they leave the rift.

[red moat]

Wouldn't it be redundant? Cuz you become invulnerable in the rift anyway

[near vortex]

I need to spread more Rapid Resilience propaganda, that shits too OP

[near crater]

For the eximus

[hard dove]

Enemies inside rift get surged > surged enemies dies and explide pulling enemies caught in the explosion to be in the rift and get surged as well

[near crater]

No wait that's not it.

[hard dove]

On your teammate

[willow otter]

Ok so it spreads banish and surge?

[hard dove]

Was it not? It cause enemies not inside bubble to be in the rift as well

[willow otter]

I dunno I'm kinda new to this

I got limbo cuz he's drippy Imma keep it real

[near vortex]

Enemies that die with Surge active spread the mark to one nearby enemies
It only radial banishes if they leave the Rift, I think

[hard dove]

Which is when they die

[near crater]

There are two halves to rift surge.

If an enemy dies with rift surge, it spreads surge to an enemy's nearby ally.

If an enemy exits the rift with rift surge, it will create a radial Banish around that enemy, affecting the enemy's allies

If only it does both at once

[willow otter]

So... Gonna guess there's a lot of confusion with limbo cuz no one really uses him

[near crater]

https://tenor.com/view/why-is-he-gif-3749724709641675358

[hard dove]

Enemies dying count as leaving rift as well no?

[near crater]

No

[hard dove]

Kinda yeah
All that hoops and the return is minimal over just using slamkong for example

[near vortex]

Nobody bothers to read the wiki when they could just pick generic nuker #9

[willow otter]

Can you banish them while they're in cataclysm,m

[willow otter]

I'm trying to step away from frames that are "press a button nuke a room", since as much as I love Gyre she's just kinda that

Also wanna step away from Rhino and Volt since I crutch them hard

[near vortex]

"This is a Glaive build and Limbo adds nothing" mfs when Limbo takes his modless Falcor into SP

[near crater]

Won't do anything, since it's a constant Banish.
BUUUUT you can cast rift surge, tag all enemies inside the bubble (preferably close to the border around outside enemy allies), hold his 1 to Unbanish, to let those in the bubble get put back in the material plane for a moment and then right back into the rift of the bubble

[willow otter]

I don't wanna turn limbo into a melee frame man I just wanna load up a sniper and nuke a dude by turning their scalp into jelly

[willow otter]

Huh

[near vortex]

I mean
The double dip on Glaives and melee stealth multipliers are kinda juicy

[hard dove]

I shame that you kinda need all 4 of his abilities to function properly bc there's a lot of good and qol subsume for him

Well you can ignore 1 and subsume over it but that limits his range somewhat

[near vortex]

You can subsume over 4

It's honestly better to subsume over 4 then it is 1

[hard dove]

Yeah but 1 > 3 > hold 1 is a long setup compared to just pressing 4 to a large crowd

Can't wait for rework or at least tweaks soon

[near vortex]

Limbo's kit is very good
Tweaks are needed but it functions

Best subsumes are the typical stuff like Xatas Roar or something to pump out even more Rift Torrent damage

Breach surge is funny since it inherits Rift Torrent

Well of Life and Zymos is a funny meme build

[hard dove]

Silence for me

Remove any eximus and aco threat

[coral crest]

The Violence build

[hard dove]

I'm him fr

[near vortex]

I don't think silence is necessary with stuff like Secondary Fortifier or Circumvent to deal with eximus

[hard dove]

They can be overwhelming for things like eta for example

[near crater]

A visual aid @willow otter

[near vortex]

Acolytes can be an issue I suppose, but Cataclysm and throw a Falcor at it should solve most of the issues

[hard dove]

Although that one defense is just annoying in general

[willow otter]

Gonna sound like I'm kneecapping myself (I am I dunno why I do this) but I'm like super against Subsuming and Incarnons. Like, only if super necessary and it makes building so much more tedious since I'll end up having a dead skill or 2 on a frame that does nothing for me while actively avoiding Burston Incarnon despite it being good

[near crater]

I have two variants.

One focused on banish and spread through rift surge + evade and arcane crepuscular

The other is "vanilla" without subsumed, focused on Cataclysm.

[willow otter]

So...
234[1] refresh 2 and 3 when needed

[near crater]

Correct

[willow otter]

Noted

[hard dove]

You can 3 without any target inside rift?

[near crater]

Casting stasis will also protect you while you are in the rift along with the enemy.

[willow otter]

Oh wait 243[1]

[near crater]

If you and the enemy are in different planes, no.

[willow otter]

Whoops

[near crater]

Actually I'll check this rq

Going to simu

[willow otter]

Iirc only rifted enemies can be surged

So doesn't matter where you are, no rift no surge

[near crater]

A rifted enemy will allow you to use the second half, yeah.

[near crater]

Basically

[willow otter]

So guess it comes down to uhhh

How do I choose my guns if I don't wanna be a Falcor slave?
How do people choose 2 different weapons for a loadout?

[hard dove]

Thematically or by synergy

[near vortex]

Scourge Prime is goated

[willow otter]

How to find weapon synergies anyways

[hard ibex]

is punchthrough good on boar incarnon?

[willow otter]

Like day I wanted to Use a Grinlok, what'd I throw onto the secondary?

[hard dove]

Synergies with frame
Or just using a primer in general

[willow otter]

Boar is the Chain Beam one right? If so, punch through good on chain beams

[hard dove]

Grimoire buffing
Scourge melee

[willow otter]

Hmm

[hard dove]

Though you're probably better off just using grimoire in this case lol

[near crater]

Okay tried it. The answer is no. You can't use rift surge on material plane targets. Ability won't be cast.
If an enemy is rifted, you can cast RS.
If a rifted enemy dies in rift while being surged, the surge will shoot to a random nearby enemy.It does not banish that enemy.

[hard ibex]

so would a +punchthrough +heat +ms riven be a good slot?

[trim hill]

Best way to spread Surge is to Banish, then Surge banished enemies, and then hold Banish to expel them from the Rift. This will cause them to re-Banish themselves, and you can Surge again to get more enemies Surged

[near vortex]

never forget the Brozime Limbo build
Had to bleach my eyes after that

[hard dove]

Question does the radial banish also applies to the enemies that trigger the radial banish

[willow otter]

Hell happened there

[near crater]

Already said so

[hard dove]

What was the build

[willow otter]

So I wouldn't use something like an epitaph for group priming or a Kohmak for fodder killing with a sniper primary?

[near vortex]

he put Airburst over Banish so he could pull enemies into Cataclysm 💀

[near crater]

But I just saw that sometimes a close-by enemy doesn't get affected by radial banish for some reason. 1m distance, well within my radial banish radius

[hard ibex]

also would beam weapons be viable on gyre? idk if they work with her augment that causes bullets to cause electric status effect

[hard dove]

Priming or aoe clearing can honestly be done with pets instead

[trim hill]

Convectrix + Gyre is insanely powerful

[willow otter]

I could use a Diriga yeah

Guess I'll have to do a sit-down with someone for this cuz I can't really wrap my brain around this properly if that makes sense

[near vortex]

fun fact:
Airburst doesn't pull targets affected by Stasis

[hard ibex]

do u know why this is? does convectrix work with her conductive sphere augment or do i need to mod for electric

basically i wanna find a way to make this boar build go crazy on her

[willow otter]

Lil bit of both since the augment needs innate Electric for it to work from my understanding

[trim hill]

Convectrix does a ton of status. Throw on electric and your ability crit chance will skyrocket thanks to her passive. You can pull and nuke stuff with Coil Recharge like crazy

[hard ibex]

i see i see

[half sierra]

does modded elec on Okina mix with incarnon cold or are they separated?

[hard ibex]

i dont have convectrix atm but is there another good status dealer in this list that'll achieve the same thing?

[trim hill]

Any AOE that can spread tons of electric proccs will make Gyre's abilities hit hard. Beams are generally good at this, Convectrix just doesn't chain is all (but it applies status like crazy)

[half sierra]

literally half ur weps list outperforms convectrix + groll riven with average builds

[hard ibex]

(ik its mostly incarnons im a sheep)

[hard ibex]

i see

[trim hill]

Phantasma and Boar Incarnon will do great

[hard ibex]

ok ill try a boar build as ive been messing with it a bunch

[willow otter]

Phantasma is just what Convectrix wished it was

[hard ibex]

i might try a blast + electric build to try and incorperate my riven

(ik gyre is a cc buffer but this riven is too fun to pass up)

[half sierra]

torid inc + boar inc are good. sobek w acid shells and the other aug makes gyre insane room clear, better than saryn. kohm is a bullet hose. latron p inc will give good synergy with pillage on gyre + melee influence passive procs

[hard ibex]

wdym melee influence passive procs?

[half sierra]

i personally use blast latron p inc with gyre and sancti magistar wi melee influence. sometimes, latron's inc bounces will consider gyre's lightning strikes a melee attack. so it spreads elec/modded latron blast/latron punc/melee elec again/modded melee statuses

[trim hill]

What kinda interaction is this, lol. That's ridiculous

[hard ibex]

man that sounds like fun, does it need to be sancti magistar or can i use any influence weapon

[half sierra]

idk but i found it out when i was trying to find a substitute for vadarya prime bc i am 88 days away from primed shred.

[karmic badger]

Melee influence is kinda funky at times, i know that my hound can occasionally activate it

[half sierra]

any influence wep, pref viral/elec. pillage gyre for even quicker map clears imo

[trim hill]

Influence is so wild

[hard ibex]

im gonna try out a pillage gyre as i really dont wanna have to roll to strip like alot of builds incorperate

[half sierra]

@hard ibex if youd like, i can sc my build i use as a main

[hard ibex]

are u able to send your latron build? all of mine are very outdated and boring

[half sierra]

ye ye

[karmic badger]

I need to double check if pet claws also proc melee influence...

[hard ibex]

that'd be great pls

[half sierra]

one sec i'll sc my builds + shards + evos

[hard ibex]

and does this mean it'll spread the status effects activated by the melee weapon? (say i have a viral + elec melee) or does it just spread the elec from gyre + latron statuses

also would i even need electric on my melee weapon if im only proccing influence in this way

[half sierra]

Latron evos: riddled target, marksmans hand, flensing spikes. gyre PSF is flex spot for more range so you can pillage more, latron flex spot is the exilus, i still dunno what to use bc im getting to the 300 roll mark on my latron riven to replace p firestorm (trying for CD/MS/SC w neg). any elec influence melee. so funny to use this setup

[half sierra]

yes, exactly this.

[hard ibex]

very interesting, so could i maybe mod for magnetic + viral on my melee to 'prime' enemies with just influence

[half sierra]

i shoudl say: it spreads both, somehow.

[hard ibex]

tbf i feel like it'd be hard to notice with how powerful latron incarnon + gyre abilities would be

[hard ibex]

how important is reverse rotorswell here? not sure how it interacts with gyre

[half sierra]

its hard to notice if you dont make the effects and numbers smaller to see statuses proc or make everything manageable looking. reverse rotorswell is gyre's version of merulina/Loyal Merulina augment primarily. its also seems to be the cause of gyre abilities triggering influence on blast primary/secondary builds somehow and idk how its doing that.

[hard ibex]

okay ill use it

and can i swap the cannonade for something like more fire rate or primed shred

not sure if i'd like latron with no fire rate buffs icl

[half sierra]

you dip DPS going for FR bc cannonade locks the FR. its why we can afford to use Crit Delay to red crit in incarnon.

realistically, the firestorm slot should be bane mod, multishot, or worst case Double Tap. but firestorm makes Flensing Spikes trigger more frequently.

[fierce lark]

the reflected damage counts as melee damage probably

same thing with chroma's cold ward

one of his wards lmao

[hard ibex]

but wouldnt adding a fr mod fix the dip from crit delay and make it more user-friendly as u can just point and shoot whenever rather than getting blocked by fire rate

[fierce lark]

or maybe all of them

[half sierra]

thats hilarious and makes gyre so insanely bonkers in theory alone now lmao

[hard ibex]

idk i might test both

as i dont think ive ever had an issue with latron dps even with no merciless stacks it dominates

[hard ibex]

bane mod is dull i wont be using that

[half sierra]

this is why you cant replace P Firestorm with FR mods. this + crit delay + galv chamber makes up for 96% of the weps total final damage.

[hard ibex]

swapping every mission makes me groan

[hard ibex]

i see i see

okay i'll use it then

[mossy ore]

I feel that. I hate using bane mods

[hard ibex]

if a build calls for a bane mod i'll just whack bane of grineer or maybe murmur and never swap again

[mossy ore]

Thats usually what ill do. Mostly because I forget theyre on and to switch them.

[trim hill]

I don't use banes for anything because I'm too lazy. I hate em

[versed harbor]

this is only rly an issue if you are on a different planet every single mission

if ur farming a particular mode or mission or w/e you will either fight the same faction over and over or you do a long mission

[hard ibex]

the issue is that i constantly swap weapons and you always forget what mod is on what weapon

[trim hill]

In one session, I'm all over the place

I get bored farming one thing at a time, so I constantly shake it up

[fierce lark]

my issue with banes is that most of the time im opening fissures

so half the time my bane does nothing

or im doing a faction without a bane and then it always does nothing

[versed harbor]

ye thats fairs

[granite nimbus]

https://youtu.be/u6pf3894-Us?si=8Y0tOscllJrHe_2G

I got past the wall

[valid cargo]

Is the sampotes worth building for kullervo? I made this

[hard ibex]

alr ive sort of got the build up and running, just need to subsume pillage and get archon stretch

[mortal crest]

Can someone provide me Sevagoth Prime Build??

[compact scroll]

anyone have nekros loot build?

[trim hill]

Hopefully every Nekros build is also a loot build

Well of Life over 4

[compact scroll]

ty

[fierce lark]

im more in touch with the funny petrify over 4 ore gaze precision nekros

[half sierra]

i like using gloom over nekros' 4 so its a self sustaining despoil that also gives infinite energy.

[fierce lark]

one day i'll get health conversion and play a version of nekros that doesn't die as soon as a venomous eximus shows up

[languid oxide]

should i replace transient fortitude with primed flow for better energy economy?

i keep running out of energy

[wicked scaffold]

im having severe energy problems on my revenant, but im struggling with losing danse macabre cause its just a fun ability to run around with
i experimented with putting nourish over 4, and sure it worked but i think revenant without danse macabre is a liiiittle boring
is there any way i could get energy generation? i tried energize + equilibrium with a panzer vulpaphyla that has synth deconstruct with my roar over 1 build but i feel like i still struggle mad hard with energy if i get remotely unlucky with drops/enemy spawns

[languid oxide]

also max zenurik.

[latent adder]

What efficiency and duration are u running

It should be about 166 dur 160 eff, or >166 dur 130 eff with a seismic bond companion

Use equilibrium and synth deconstruct on diriga, panzer etc

[wicked scaffold]

😬 maybe swapping out blind rage for something else that doesnt shoot my efficiency in the foot wouldnt be a bad idea?

[languid oxide]

i have it both on the build already. oh wait you werent talking to me

[latent adder]

Oh you also have enery issues, hmm that looks the best u can go lol

U can try external generators like tenet glaxion, emergence dissipate

Grimoire xata Invocation etc

[languid oxide]

them grimoire mods cost an arm and a leg tho i looked. let me see how i can acquire tenet glaxion or if ergo has it for sale.

[wicked scaffold]

how much strength does a viral ticked enemy require to be one-shot with roar boosted reave, do you know that perchance

i have panzer vulpaphyla in my pocket so i have good viral proccing im just curious how much would be the comfort point in strength

[versed harbor]

tome mod bundle is rly good value (the one on regular in game market) 😮

saves you alot of plat vs player bought ones

[unique flower]

How's this build?
I'm experimenting with Harrow

[latent adder]

Depends on how many viral

313 str roar with 2 viral

Higher str if 1 viral

[unique flower]

Looks like I can whip out my revenant again

[foggy patrol]

This arcane circumvent is the most op arcane i've seen

[old marsh]

I replaced aegis with circumvent on all my frames that had rolling guard

[lime vector]

Any tips on how to improve the build?

[fierce lark]

would just run stretch instead of overextended, unless you're actually using his 3 to do aoe instead of influence

umbral intensify instead of base, constitution instead of augur message, equilibrium somewhere (probably over augur secrets) and then drop energize for arcane strike, run something else in the attack speed slot on melee

oh the melee build is right there smile

yeah idk what you're supposed to do with careen, the gimmick is pretty trash for actual melee gameplay

run amalgam organ shatter if you have it, otherwise take it out

sacrificial steel would be significantly better than galvanized (im assuming this is meant to be heavy spam)

[karmic badger]

Ain't that the ice bomb roll? That's basically just for utility melees

[fierce lark]

it's good for statsticks just to give your melee arcane slot something to do, but for actual meleeing you're spending time rolling instead of hitting, not good

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-drawing-tablet-scold-tired-gif-7084813469604986995

[mighty flare]

the humble wrathful advance

[fierce lark]

me when i can't add 1 and 1

got distracted by my primal urge to slander melee careen on sight

[trim hill]

Why are people freaking out about Careen? It doesn't seem very good at all, just by looking at its effect.

Maybe I'll throw it onto my Rift Strike Basolk build. That'll surely work

[mighty flare]

its just free utility for setups that aren't using frames like casters
tho, its pretty small and needs shivering contagion to have more noticeable effect

[trim hill]

Super strange. I guess contagion can just slot on a companion, tho

[fierce lark]

it's great if you aren't actually using your melee weapon, you roll from something and it gets frozen, it's not useless but playing around it as part of your melee build is an active detriment

[trim hill]

I'm gonna

[fierce lark]

you're in more danger rolling in something's face rather than killing it

[trim hill]

Surely you haven't played dark souls

[languid oxide]

hey for sevagoth's nuke build with roar on 4, are eximus supposed to die in one round of "1,2,1"?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-roll-confuse-gif-11695636

[hexed lodge]

The issue with the build is you don't have enough ability strength to one-shot with 2+1, which is 255%.

[hexed lodge]

Single-targets, yes, in groups, you only need 2+1

[languid oxide]

oh right, roar just buffs dmg not ability strength right?

[old marsh]

2,1 is enough

Oh ye. The 4 meter radius thing

Ye. Need 121

[hexed lodge]

It does buff dmg, but with enough str, you boost Roar and Reap's dmg vulnerability to scale the 25% true dmg to 100%

[languid oxide]

I see. so ig i gotta forma and then put on power drift. that should do the job

[hexed lodge]

On single targets yes, 121, in groups, you don't need the 1st Reap cast, 2+1 is enough for the blast to kill a trash mob in a group spawning an extra shadow and deal the killing blow

[hexed lodge]

Molt Augmented is going to be your best tool to meet that 255% strength threshold

[old marsh]

Also kinda hate how tight sevagoth’s build is to get 255 STR.

[languid oxide]

so base 255% str wont do the job?

cos per the image im at 244, power drift should push me to 259

Disclaimer: new to building, don't have the arcane context

[old marsh]

That arcane gives u 60% extra str

[stray depot]

what archon shards do yall recommend for revenant?

[hexed lodge]

It can, but Molt Aug comes with less disadvantes compared to other ability str buffers (blind rage, transient fort, umb intensify's large mod cap etc)
And I do agree with Roar sevagoth modding is so tight 💀 that's why i don't play it, base sev is strong enough by himself

[old marsh]

which is overkill. So it gives u flex slot for something like steadfast Or anything for survivability like circumvent

[foggy patrol]

It is the strongest defense and offense arcane at the same time

They need to split that arcane into two ngl

That defense removal thing has to go

[mighty flare]

what

[trim hill]

The defense removal isn't that great. There are plenty of ways to do it better

[languid oxide]

i dont have enough capital to change the build on that scale tbh. i'll have to go the power drift route for now.

[old marsh]

Lots of stuff u can do. That 259 str from PD mod is good for short missions. For longer missions u can drop one of the bigger str mods and use molt augmented

[trim hill]

Getting overguard for yourself on any frame is infinitely better than just stripping it away in two rolls

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smacking-other-cat-cat-cat-smack-cat-swat-gif-10347810988835752163

[languid oxide]

why change in longer missions?

[old marsh]

Molt augmented needs 250 kills to give that extra 60% str

[hexed lodge]

Aight nw, if it helps, here are two versions of that build to help you mod Sev-roar
Budget ver - https://overframe.gg/build/900311/
Final ver - https://overframe.gg/build/941505/

[foggy patrol]

It is a unwarrented side bonus

Not the best but still you can just only use that and still be fine with it

[hexed lodge]

Even then, sevagoth (nuke) builds molt augmented stacks so quick, you can even run it in quick missions

[trim hill]

I think it's fine. Makes more sense to steal the defense than it pop up out of nowhere.

And using it as a dedicated armor strip? Absolutely not worth an entire arcane slot. Plenty of ways to strip armor better than spamming the circle button all over the arena

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-panda-adorable-cute-gif-16553172

[foggy patrol]

It has no cooldown and has two uses in single arcane blud

[languid oxide]

oh I saw these first! i got confused because like 15 different people in game threw builds at me so i just slapped smt together

i definitely need more energy economy ngl

[trim hill]

Single use - steals defenses

[foggy patrol]

That stripping alone is enough to not waste weapon/wf slots for stripping

[old marsh]

u can try arcane steadfast. U might like it

[languid oxide]

i think ninjase's build guide said it messes with shield gating

but tbh i can always swap off shield gating ngl

[old marsh]

It does. But if u killing everyone then your shields stay fine experiment and find out

[foggy patrol]

Overguard caps at 10k and 2 rolls to fully strip for a single arcane. That whole arcane made my frost gun platform obsolete

[hexed lodge]

I think your energy economy is fine, is just the 1-shot on sev... with and without it it's night and day, you cast abilities less often

[foggy patrol]

I use 3 augments + 5 tau + 5 formas just to reach to same usage as that single arcane

And you're calling that it isn't busted sure bro

[old marsh]

But frost gives everyone OG. Not just to self. So frost build still better

[trim hill]

You're talking about Frost using his 4 augment for overguard?

[hexed lodge]

I mean... frost is aoe, and circumvent is single-target unless you have a grouping tool

[foggy patrol]

Just let everyone carry that arcane and boom he has no use

[trim hill]

Frost also full strips with very low strength investment. Plus freeze, plus overguard, plus ally support, plus huge AOE, plus

[fallow shale]

If I mod Valkyr’s talons with a heat status mod, will it trigger archon continuity?

[versed harbor]

archon continuity is toxin but yes

[foggy patrol]

De turning this game into walk into park with each update i miss when game felt like helldiver level 10

[versed harbor]

exalted elements do work with archon mods

[old marsh]

But everyone may not have that arcane equipped. And boom Frost better

[keen rover]

does running corr stacks beyond full strip do anything?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[versed harbor]

the only use is for enemies with status caps like acolytes n stuff

[fallow shale]

Ah, ok. Sry, I’m not logged in, so I just guessed the effect, but it’s good to know that built in weapons trigger Archon Mods

[foggy patrol]

Over 1.2k hours of gameplay i seen maybe less than 10 actual frost players with real builds

5 of them was since papa polar released

[keen rover]

wonder if that biting frost build with 1200% cc still exists

[trim hill]

Wdym "real"?

[old marsh]

we shall see 2025 stats soon

[foggy patrol]

It does

Im using augments for passive/1/4 2 is subsumed

Pretty solid especially when you have noobs constantly dying

[trim hill]

Just give them circumvent, they'll stop dying

[old marsh]

since DE used to make Unreal Tournament before, maybe he is talking about Real stuff

[trim hill]

U always got the insight

[fallow shale]

Another question: If I swap out a Warframe’s ability for Smite, which does radiation damage, would it trigger the Archon Mods with Heat and Electricity based effects? I noticed that sometimes, when I use a mod that gives radiation on a weapon, it gives one or the other occasionally (unless I’m tripping, cause I do use a Diriga)

[foggy patrol]

people level it up to 30 then delete frost aren't real frosters

[fierce lark]

dante if dante was bad

[fallow shale]

Frosters to fodders

[trim hill]

Ah okay. So people actually playing somewhat "complete" builds at least

[foggy patrol]

For people who aren't looking to be doritos

[hexed lodge]

I think you're trippin', share some of that good stuff

[trim hill]

I wanna know what you think about my Frost build, onyx

[fallow shale]

Here, have some Diriga Gaslight Delight

[foggy patrol]

Frost overguard is pathetic also i can only get around 40k OG

Luckly his saving grace is 1200% cc and 100% cold damage multipilier

[trim hill]

#builds-discussion message

Inb4 it's called a meme. It's not, that's how I actually run Frost, lol

[foggy patrol]

Little bit of this little bit of that ahh

[mighty flare]

not heat, toxin, it'll work but needs mods like weeping wounds to actually be effective

[fallow shale]

Good thing that’s like a standard to anything Melee I do, lol

[foggy patrol]

He would be somewhat better if he could use 8 mod slots instead of 5

[mighty flare]

this is just diriga btw

[fallow shale]

Yeah, figures

[trim hill]

I'm using all of em, idk where to farm more mod slots 🥺

[fallow shale]

However, now I have a new question: does the bond mod where you share status with your companion work on Archon mods?

[foggy patrol]

De makes half assed skills then band-aids with augments

[trim hill]

Tbf, I only use two of em. So ig that's 6

[languid oxide]

so you dont spam 2,1 for groups right? you cast it once and let the room clear?

[mighty flare]

only archon stretch can be triggered by companions

[fallow shale]

That’s good at least

So, any warframe I should realistically have a Stretch mod on it can use it?

[foggy patrol]

You're possibly missing out on 100% base cold damage/1200%cc/ teamwide overguard all of them is a must imo

Drop the flow frost doesn't spam skills

[mighty flare]

if you wanna, yeah, usually costs an extra forma tho

[fallow shale]

I mean, I don’t use stretch on too many frames, but the ones I do already have the a slot modded, so it will be a easy swap

[trim hill]

My build does spam. I use Fractured Blast over his 1

And his base energy cap is stupid low

[foggy patrol]

Mf subsumed 1 over 2.....

[hexed lodge]

2+1 in groups, yes, which spread the debuffs to nearby enemies (which sometimes die from chain reactions, especially in hallways) if you see enemies ticking with dmg, they only need one more [1] cast to die.

[languid oxide]

gotcha

so no spamming then. awesome.

[trim hill]

Why would I want to waste a precious mod slot on yet another augment?

[hexed lodge]

yea spamming is a big myth on sev 💀 players who don't understand him mechanically

[foggy patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-read-rap-fans-exorcism-uncle-ruckus-gif-23038600

[languid oxide]

2,1 and then 1 if enemies still survive

[languid oxide]

this clip is still so funny to me.

[foggy patrol]

Works every time in wf fandom

They be half illiterate

[trim hill]

So do I qualify as a froster or a fodder?

[foggy patrol]

1st augment doubles your weapon damage

[trim hill]

That's okay, it messes with my status weighting

[keen rover]

what should i replace my heat mod with on my regulators now that zidan uskos is out? considering accelerated isotope for rad proc/gunCO and extra fr

[foggy patrol]

It is seperate blud

I can shoot both heat and cold without them forming blast

[mighty flare]

heat mod still good, but you can use the magnetic might mod

[trim hill]

That's not what I said

It messes with the status rate, right?

[foggy patrol]

It's the same thing it adds 100% cold as multiplier not to your gun itself

Also you're playing frost and worried about stacking cold?

[ornate wyvern]

Quick question: does shock trooper work with wukongs staff?! And second doesn’t silence work on ivara with noice weapons or do I need a hush mod for that to fix this issue? Ty in advance 🙂

[trim hill]

Everything will already be frozen with Avalanche and Ice Wave. Don't really need more cold stacks

[foggy patrol]

2 is shit waste of energy/cast time

[mighty flare]

elemental infusions like shock trooper or ember's heat infusion don't apply to exalted weapons
one of the few exceptions are nourish

[blissful ocean]

i got the Lorak. share builds?

[ornate wyvern]

Perfect then thank you 🫡

[austere flume]

I am trying to build a nyx build for using secondary irradiate on good secondary guns that "cant use it" well like the dual toxocyst 😛
What would be a good companion to use?

[hollow mantle]

Does... Breach Surge work on Hydroid's Tempest Barrage?

[mighty flare]

His plunder buff applies to breach surge, so yes it works

[hollow mantle]

I'm trying to find a nice Subsume that isn't just Nourish and I'm torn between Breach Surge, Sickening Pulse, and Roar

[languid oxide]

so @hexed lodge was doing a kuva lich mission and some enemies dont die even with 259 base str, like the grineer "bailiff"

[marble plume]

I just wanna drop this here. First companion riven and...

[languid oxide]

17 black