builds-discussion

[foggy river]

any good or fun protea builds? starting her up as my next frame

[foggy patrol]

Well that is rules of nature i guess

[fierce lark]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-raiden-metal-gear-ray-super-strength-gif-14889306

[foggy patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-source-i-made-it-up-sauce-take-that-gif-26625795

[shrewd cobalt]

Yo what's a good weapon that synerhuzes well with (specifically) loki?

Also what should i subsume onto him?

[fierce lark]

anything with really high base crit chance since he gets crepuscular for free

[astral tinsel]

and something that can make use of spectral serration

[fierce lark]

ie

[Rifle]

[coral crest]

Lokinquibus

[fierce lark]

since it can't use aptitude anyways

spectral crepuscular invisiburston

crit delay galv scope

[copper topaz]

What's the best subsume for a nezha nuke build?

[fierce lark]

acuity if you want to see some truly ridiculous numbers

[abstract bison]

silence the rifle for stealth

sneaky sneaky

[fierce lark]

loki has an augment for that

then again, less room to add strength for the subsumed roar

[abstract bison]

hush on the exilus

[fierce lark]

i was gonna say id have to remember to take it off after im done doing dumb shit with loki

but the same thing applies to spectral serration lul

[mighty flare]

Pyrotechnics or Thermal sunder for ability nuking
Roar/Nourish/Pillage for weapon nuking

[deep grotto]

Do you wanna abuse the Xoris’s infinite combo duration?

[tardy plume]

I'm using heavy

[mighty flare]

Weapons for nuking are arca titron, furis incarnon, boar incarnon, etc

[deep grotto]

So then you’d wanna abuse the infinite combo duration

I think galv reflex is what causes it
Not sure
If you don’t have it, you can run those negative combo duration, positive combo count mods as replacements

[copper topaz]

Is there much difference between these builds or is it just preference?

[mighty flare]

For what?

[copper topaz]

Sorry for the Sunder or pyrotechnics

[mighty flare]

Oh, pick pyro 👍

[coral crest]

Pyro is better ultimately

It's faster and coded as a weapon, so it's boosted by stuff like arachne

And it applies extra heat on ragdolls which spears force

Also it looks more badass than the sunder

[copper topaz]

Thanks for the help

[coral crest]

There isn't much difference since all you need is to apply a lot of dot status asap to then spread it between enemies

[copper topaz]

And is heat the best status to go for or?

[coral crest]

It's the one you have easiest access to for damage stacking purposes

there aren't really other statuses in subsumes that have such rapid stacking

[mighty flare]

Slight variations on weapons, only good abilities are heat abilities

[coral crest]

Dark verse is also functional but it's still FAR behind the heat ones

[copper topaz]

Ah right okay

Shall go with pyro then and give it a try , thanks!

[somber pike]

What beginner like just now steel path build is good on the sybaris incarnon valkyr or dagath

I can send my builds rn and yall can tell me what i can chnage

[verbal elk]

Can someone give advice on which roll is better for Lex Prime?

[ember condor]

How well does the amp that shoots in a short ranged cone perform with all the new Operator stuff?

[wild rune]

I use this, though I still need to tinker with it as it hasn't been updated in a while
If you have external fire rate, replace vile acceleration with the magnetic mod or a bane

Arcane can be Deadhead or Crux, I use Crux personally

[somber pike]

Ill try to get the mods but i dont have the prime so

[wild rune]

Sybaris Prime is one of the few incarnons that still uses Galvanized Aptitude, most of them don't
the Evolution II bonus is small enough that it can still function, and the Incarnon forces blast anyway to get it rolling

[somber pike]

Yea

[wild rune]

You can also mix and match elements as you wish, I just use corro cold because of Primed Cryo Rounds

it's much more of a toss-up between it, Viral Electric, and Viral Heat without PCR

[daring summit]

for a nidus based strain set loadout. thoughts?

[queen parcel]

anyone got a slash focused build for the coda motervore?

i dont need viral on it since i've got nourish

[fair sphinx]

Which one do i stick with ?

[stuck tangle]

Lowk I would PERSONALLY go for the right

[hexed coyote]

Whats the best daft punk album to listen to optimize my Lavos gameplay?

[fair sphinx]

ahh i see. Eh considering i have 100k kuva atm so i can keep on circling. what should i be aiming for ?

[stuck tangle]

To be completely honest, since it IS the Sicarus I wouldnt know cause I haven't used it. You could ask others in #warframe-general

[mighty flare]

Neither are good or worth slotting

[fair sphinx]

Ahh yea i kept on circling and got to this one instead

More reloads but the numbers seems nice ?

[karmic badger]

Well mag size is irrelevant since it doesn't affect incarnon mode

[fair sphinx]

Oh nice.

[fierce lark]

can affect how long it takes to get there

[humble arch]

Does archon continuity work for ash if i put toxin dmg on his shadow clones?

[karmic badger]

Iirc his clones are his exalted weapon, and exalteds count as abilities for archon mods

[humble arch]

Oki ty

[coral crest]

Both stretch and continuity work with them

[spare geyser]

Solid build or no?

[nocturne mantle]

hi im a bit new to making actual builds (instead of clicking the auto option), and i need a bit of help building my valkyr, this is my current build

[faint basin]

should i use archon vitality?

[spare geyser]

yes.

[gleaming furnace]

Yes

[faint basin]

for cunning drift?

[coral crest]

You can supplement Equilibrium for a purple tau shard if that's a thing you have space for

Since he gives so many orbs

And then put archon vitality

It will not only give you double heat, it will also supercharge your heal/shield restore since it scales with max hp

[faint basin]

1 tau purple 1 tau yellow and 3 tau reds sounds good?

[faint basin]

Oh so actually ahvign it maxxed does something, i didnt know

so i dont need cata shields either

[coral crest]

Should be. I prefer 2 tau purple for comfort but he spawns so many orbs

[faint basin]

no casting speed then

[coral crest]

No idea regarding casting speed, haven't built him properly yet

[coral crest]

Yeah, his heal is status cleanse, iframes and shield restore

[faint basin]

madurai 50 speed it is

[gleaming furnace]

You don't need equi tbh

[faint basin]

lol gyres wished having that, half assed kit

[coral crest]

It also procs archon intensify if you heal the minions

[coral crest]

That's his subsume btw

But gyre doesn't have nearly as much hp

But I suppose it can work for just shield gating

[mighty flare]

you should have at least 1-2 on casting speed

[gray saddle]

does it count as a "companion kill" in something like Contagious/Duplex Bond if you kill a unit that was damaged by the comapnion or does the companion need to get the last hit?

[coral crest]

you need the companion to get that kill

[gray saddle]

ah i see

[coral crest]

thankfully most companions are good at dealing dmg when built right

[gray saddle]

I havent tested it but I feel like that makes companion/duplex bond kinda useless if u end up killing stuff quick enough

was hoping to use duplex for someone like mesa but i feel like she would kill everything before a companion would get the chance to get a last hit in

[spiral chasm]

u take duplex so clones can run around and prime units and u have more dmg

[coral crest]

hey slightly unrelated but

what is your favorite simulacrum room to test?

and why

[spiral chasm]

albtrech or wtv its called

cuz i like the look

[gray saddle]

the energy drop is the main thing i was looking at

[spiral chasm]

look into synth deconstruct

with EQ

[gray saddle]

yeh its prob the more consistent combo

[coral crest]

synth deconstruct + equilibrium/violet shards should solve all general energy problems i think

[velvet pulsar]

How's Cortege?

[coral crest]

to my personal experience its just ignis but good

not as good as lizzie but its still decent

[drowsy pelican]

Imagine if they made a mod that would grant a chance to not lose your abilities when hit with a nullifier bubble, kind of like how surefooted gives you a chance to not be knocked down anytime it could occur

[velvet pulsar]

Imagine Primed Rapid Resilience

It's either full status immunity or partial considering how electric, gas, and blast status interact with u (probably more)

(yeah also knockdown)

(and no what I said has nothing to do with nullifiers)

[daring summit]

i would slot spectral serration instead of base since you're using unseen dread. and if you're using incarnon, you need hush

[spare geyser]

Didnt know that even existed

Also why is hush needed?

[daring summit]

the incarnon is not silent, will break invis

[summer trout]

galvanized aptitude or galvanized chamber first for nataruk?

[ebon apex]

NEED ADVICE: Which Skana riven is better - 80.5% elec, 57.3% addtl combo count chance, 84.9% crit damage vs. 113.2% status chance, 74.7% addtl combo count chance???

[hexed coyote]

300% duration on Lavos, otherwise you aren't even playing lavos

[limber knoll]

hello! I'm not new per se, but I played more in the early days of warframe, had a long time off, and came back. Couple weeks ago, friend got me back in, and now I'm endgame and finding only one of my frames kinda keeps up with content in 1999+, so I went to start revamping some of my builds.

Could I get some direction on where to push this one for saryn prime? I just fixed up her strength to 202%, but I definitely don't know how to optimize this stuff.

Edit: I don't really have much in the way of arcanes, i just slapped whatever I had.

[hexed coyote]

Archon shards are the easiest way

They let you increase strength easily

[limber knoll]

Is full strength what I'm gunning for on Saryn?

[hexed coyote]

Idk, i don't play saryn

I don't know if she got anything going for her except nuking

[limber knoll]

Fair enough. I still need to finish the star chart, which I've been slowly chipping away at, cause I know arbies are what are gonna get me the most important set pieces

[karmic badger]

don't forget the fries...

[unkempt rivet]

What should I have more of for a divine spears build? Range or strength?

Cuz I have 227% strength atm and like 127% range

[mighty flare]

more range

[unkempt rivet]

What abouthelminth? I assume I’ll wanna put somethin that benefits from that on, yes?

[mighty flare]

if you just wanna use abilities, then pyrotechnics or thermal sunder. If using weapons, then roar/nourish/pillage

[hasty rose]

Just got the Soma Prime. Any beginner builds?

[unkempt rivet]

And I assume that’s gonna wanna go over his 1 or 2, yes?

[mighty flare]

usually his 1, but yeah

[unkempt rivet]

Bet, thanks.
(It’s funny. After all these years I still don’t properly understand mods lmao. Mr 26 over here :/)

[faint basin]

Does hildryn end up with more shields with 5 tau blue shards or 5 tau reds with r5 aracane expertice and max strengh?

[jade gate]

does toxic lash inherit point blank damage??????

[jade gate]

expertise, it's shown in a video where enough strength outscales blue shards

[tired beacon]

anyone got a sevagoth nuke build?

[lethal bison]

gang how does punch through affect beam weapons

[faint basin]

shards for hydroid?

ability damage in corrosive or strengh shards?

[kind atlas]

should i keep my previous one or just take this

[wild patio]

anyone have a good build for wukong?

[fringe magnet]

Cpuld I get opinions on my dex pixia setup?

[blissful ocean]

Previous

[kind atlas]

yeah

[fringe magnet]

Torid riven 😎

[kind atlas]

I think its pretty good but heres mine for reference

oops lol

[fringe magnet]

Where would I come in possession of jolt?

[kind atlas]

I trhink i got it from baro once my memories are not very reliable sorry

[fringe magnet]

I find that it performs very well in normal content but they struggle at times wirh steel path

Oh baro makes sense that tracks ✊😔

[kind atlas]

hmmm

[kind atlas]

just my personal preference buti was suffering from that too I found adding anemic agility helped

spraying bullets faster kills faster

I don't have ur arcane so i mainly use merciless too

[fringe magnet]

Ahhh

I’m running Arcand velocity for the fire rate

Arcane*

Along with arcane precision for lots of damage

[kind atlas]

also for reference this is my titania build

U can subsume eclipse or roar with ur third ability for extra weapon dmg

[undone dust]

that is definitely a build

[kind atlas]

yes indeed

if it can kill its good enough for me lmao....

[undone dust]

id recommend going tox blast mag if you're running enervate (as well as xatas on titania)

which is just her best build atm anyway

[fringe magnet]

I did eclipse lol

[jade gate]

None if you kill them fast enough

[coral crest]

Normal beams pass through as a straight line

Chain beams create more chains

And boar incarnon does whatever the hell this is

Yes I made these amazing illustrations

You don't need to thank me

[pallid adder]

Incredible

[unreal quest]

Is archon intensify good for Uriel?

[coral crest]

He can trigger it from healing his minions using 2. That said 2 also flows into shields

So it's free intensity without putting yourself at any risk

[valid cargo]

Guys is this build good? I saw a mad man on youtube using it

[coral crest]

Not sure why molt augmented, Koumei really doesnt need str

But otherwise seems like an average Koumei build

Aka: sub200% range, two recharge delay mods and random bullshit

[valid cargo]

And one helmith thing

Creeping something

[coral crest]

Oh yeah, sickening pulse

[valid cargo]

Yeah

[coral crest]

It duplicates status

[valid cargo]

It looks insane tho

[coral crest]

Not sure how much it does for Koumei

But it probably works

[valid cargo]

I can send you the vid if you want

[coral crest]

Ehhh

[valid cargo]

Im not sure if i can send it here tho

[coral crest]

Koumei gets better with long runs, collecting decrees supercharges her

This run lasted 8 hours

By that point all decrees are definitely obtained

And she basically becomes a late game circuit frame

With everything spreading status, having insane str, efficiency and damage

Oh actually this build does have a problem

[valid cargo]

Hm?

[coral crest]

Fortitude does absolutely nothing

Psf already covers knockdown resist

And shield recharge does nothing for her

[valid cargo]

And what should I replace it with?

[coral crest]

Her augment

So that you wouldn't need to spend 2 hours in a mission to stack some decrees

Archon intensify also pretty much does nothing

Can replace with normal intensify or Umbral

[valid cargo]

So the entire build does nothing

[coral crest]

That's Koumei

She needs nothing

Her 1 and 4 don't care about str and have a range cap

Her 2 and 3 don't care about anything

Literally all you need on her is

Fast deflection
Vigilante Vigor
Omikuji's Fortune
200% range or less

She is set, then you can do whatever you want

Archon Stretch can give energy since she can gamble for electricity on her 1 and 4

Archon Continuity can add an extra proc if she gambles for toxin

[valid cargo]

So in this case ninjases build is better?

https://overframe.gg/build/759309/koumei/threads-of-fate-koumei-general-use-and-steel-path-endurance/

[coral crest]

I just told you literally all she needs

But yeah, Ninjase's build is exactly what I described lol

[valid cargo]

Sorry lol

What about the rest? Weapons etc

[coral crest]

Well you're probably gonna want condition overload on everything

Since her toolset primes all enemies around

Then her buff will dictate what weapon slot to use

You're stacking duviri decrees, she will eventually turn everything into a death beam

Or she will do that immediately

Depending on your luck with decrees

[valid cargo]

I see

[coral crest]

She's stupidly strong and even more stupidly modding efficient

[valid cargo]

Any weapon recommendations?

[coral crest]

But you're gambling. For everything.

[coral crest]

Pretty much anything works. But consider weapons with multiplicative condition overload first

If you know what that means

[zealous rapids]

tenet arca plasmor works wonders

[coral crest]

She doesn't have any special weapon synergy, so you can go with whatever fits that bill

[zealous rapids]

but you need good weapons to kill efficiently for decree challenges

[coral crest]

Yeah, you're still gambling for decrees and might not supercharge your weapons initially

[valid cargo]

The decrees that kill me are anything thats distance related, headshots, wall latch

[zealous rapids]

and idk why there is no impetus arcane in that build

[coral crest]

That's why, for an example, ninjase has mods that extend wall latch duration on that build you sent

[zealous rapids]

my build is 4 focused so I don't have problems with normal kills

[coral crest]

Her 4 is nice to score headshots

[zealous rapids]

tenet arca plasmor can headshot

[coral crest]

And distance is just a check on how varied your loadout is

[valid cargo]

Alright i need the augment and check if i have the required mods

[zealous rapids]

but I have secondary with no recoli and good fire rate for that

[dusty wedge]

If I put precision intensify on Dante will that affect his exalted weapon too?

[valid cargo]

With all that said its weird how she gets trash talked so much

[zealous rapids]

yes, his noctua will not get extra strength, it will all go into 4th ability

[coral crest]

Isn't his exalted on 1?

[dusty wedge]

Darn alright thanks

Yeah it is

[coral crest]

Not on 4

[dusty wedge]

Dante uses his 1-3 to activate his 4

[zealous rapids]

only 2-3

[coral crest]

He uses 2-3 🤓

[dusty wedge]

Mb

[coral crest]

Precision will only buff 4, I don't think that would affect his exalted

[zealous rapids]

his 1 can even be subsumed over since you can have 50% damage noctua copy with 4

[dusty wedge]

I’m used to baruuk lol

[coral crest]

And it takes the mods

[dusty wedge]

Oh yeah I forgot about that

[coral crest]

Though copies benefit your alt fire charge

Big thing to miss out on

[zealous rapids]

buffing 4 means less strength to 1, so it's affected

[coral crest]

Phrasing

[dusty wedge]

I’m not sure I’m gonna go test it now

[valid cargo]

Alright i just checked my mods and i only need her augment

[coral crest]

Godspeed

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-gambling-gamblecore-slots-addiction-gif-13719756177810728433

[valid cargo]

Speaking of mods it looks like the cedo, dual toxocyst and the okina cover most of the challenges

[dusty wedge]

Okay yes as it turns out it does seem to affect noctua

[summer trout]

using nataruk rn but thinking of switching which gun should i use?

[zealous rapids]

if you can get your hands on aya, I would suggest farming latron prime

all 4 prime parts are in common drops

but the weapon is just op with incarnon

[summer trout]

noted

now to farm aya

[zealous rapids]

there is still 13 days left for the current prime resurgence rotation that have latron

[feral sundial]

whats a good helmith for xaku?

[astral tinsel]

what build?

[foggy patrol]

Roar 2-3 years and forget

Xaku is a tricky frame to subsume with tho all the skills are insanely powerful

[halcyon linden]

please anyone have a build for a ( Heat ) kuva nukor ?

[placid geode]

I think the heat build is kinda outdated

[fierce lark]

replace convulsion with heated charge

granted, electric is better most of the time

heat is better against bosses and higher level demolishers that you aren't killing in ~2 seconds

[placid geode]

I've seen alot of these build with Enervate. its a really good Arcane

[fierce lark]

yeah it single-handedly enables a lot of weapons to be crit viable, much better than avenger+discipline did

and since the nukor beam chains it benefits from the enervate bug

[vagrant lagoon]

Question about Khora. I recently just got Khora Prime and I noticed something odd, some bond mods on my companion (not venari) doesnt work anymore, im assuming because the game immediately assumes Venari as my 'active' companion? Im not sure, but not having something like Reinforced bond's 60% increased fire rate is kinda giving me mixed thoughts about Khora, but what DOES work is Tenacious Bond doubling from both companions? so i get 240% CD, is this trade off worth it? or is there some way to play khora without venari?

[wispy mountain]

what could i replace to get primed quickdraw in?

[fierce lark]

im gonna assume you weren't using link redirection to get reinforced bond?

[vagrant lagoon]

I usually just have reinforced bond on my normal panzer vulpa and get the buff there

[fierce lark]

asking just in case you were using link redirect on a high shield frame to hit the threshold

[vagrant lagoon]

Ok for some reason if i have reinforced bond on both it just doesnt work, but if i have reinforced bond on my panzer vulpa, and not venari, it DOES work, just sometiems doesnt show the buff

[fierce lark]

yeah that's a bit weird, the game might just read reinforced bond on venari as "doesn't meet the requirement" and shuts all of it down

[simple frost]

how should i build bo prime?
into crit or status?

[placid geode]

I think the bo is more of a status weapon then crit

[brazen berry]

Is arbucep good for PT?

[velvet pulsar]

Which one?

😭

[charred gale]

thats actually insane u got that twice ina row

[velvet pulsar]

Those are 2 different rivens

If u haven't noticed

[charred gale]

ohhhhh didnt notice the mr

[forest magnet]

What's a good source of builds?
I've heard very mixed things about Overframe

[charred gale]

thats still crazy tho lol

[fierce lark]

something something "i see gas i pass"

[charred gale]

ninjace on overframe

or on yt

[fierce lark]

ninjase's overframe builds, or ask here

[velvet pulsar]

The game gave me 3 consecutive cortege rivens

[velvet pulsar]

I'm planning viral heat

So it's possible

[charred gale]

yeah idk about asking here, 70% of the time they're poopy or mid

[velvet pulsar]

NVM I gotta get rid of madurai one

Coz it won't give me viral heat

[fierce lark]

do the one with more cd then

it kinda just replaces the 120 heat mod on the gun i guess

[mighty flare]

whichever actually makes viral heat

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah the naramon one

[fierce lark]

iirc combining rivens will always force their combined element unless you one of them combining elsewhere

[velvet pulsar]

Cortege has base heat

[fierce lark]

that doesn't change anything if you're modding for heat regardless i believe

[velvet pulsar]

So the madurai one will never form a viral combination

[plain drum]

chat i kinda forgot how shieldgating works, if i have half of my max shields and they get depleted immediately, do i get half the immunity duration too?

[fierce lark]

if you mod cold, then put the riven next to it, iirc it will always do gas + cold regardless of the riven's mod order

rather than doing viral heat

[plain drum]

lets say i got 1000 max shields which is 2.3 sec immune, rn i have 500 and that gets depleted in one shot, do i get immune for 1.15 sec?

[velvet pulsar]

Imma send u a screenshot when I get cortege itself

Which is probably a day later

[fierce lark]

let me check overframe's builder and see if that's how OF does it

because im not certain

[plain drum]

onlyfans

[velvet pulsar]

NVM the madurai one makes viral

[fierce lark]

yeah i just checked

the other one makes blast lmao

so i guess multi-element rivens follow slot order starting from the bottom

thats interesting

[velvet pulsar]

Oh god I might keep both for viral heat & blast enervate each

Bruh I just noticed my third cortege riven is vazarin...

It's confirmed, this game is alive

[north marlin]

does neutron star get buffed with frosts augment biting frost?

[golden drift]

Say I have orange, purple, and green shards installed in a frame (i,e Lavos), all for ability damage if the enemy is under a certain status effect.

Are their bonuses just gonna add up (15+15+15) to a total of 45% boost, or multiply each other (1.15 x 1.15 x 1.15=1.520875), to get a 52% percent boost ?

[fierce lark]

the first one, they're additive with each other regardless of elements

[sonic drum]

What are usually good choices for a high crit primary weapon?

[golden drift]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[sonic drum]

Not status, cause I need sth for special bosses that dont take any statuses...

[fierce lark]

burston prime incarnon

thank you for coming to my ted talk

dex/sibaris prime incarnon

phenmor and felarx are specifically non-crit but they're still very high raw dps

[frosty fjord]

latron incarnon

[fierce lark]

i need to hurry up and get the hema augment so i can see how good this gun is

[spiral chasm]

Latron with double tap does go crazy

[sonic drum]

Phenmor sounds doable. Dont have the incarnon for latron

[fierce lark]

phenmor overtook burston as my preferred primary when im not playing ember or uriel

[frosty fjord]

i’ve mostly used strun or latron pretty much ever since i got the incarnons

but in terms of just non status crit things latron incarnon is my go to

[sonic drum]

Hmm oh I didnt unlock the complete quests yet with phenmor. Ups... Gotta complete those quests first

20 headshots with primary on an angel... Great...

[fierce lark]

strun is cool but unless im playing rhino it’s a huge pain in the ass because i don’t own psf

same with laetum, don’t use it nearly as much anymore because self stagger is incredibly annoying

[fierce lark]

cheesable with all the mag capacity mods

[frosty fjord]

not that hard really, put on multishot and just go to town

[fierce lark]

and multishot

[frosty fjord]

maybe mag capacity too if you want but just multishot should be fine

[fierce lark]

when you don’t phase it in 0.2 seconds it actually moves around a bit and can be annoying

[sonic drum]

hmm than I probably do it in a mission solo, so nobody one shots the angel

[ember dust]

did anyone make a vexoric build?

[umbral sleet]

hey how does this build looks ? i gotta forma it a once again to fit maybe blood rush ? or anything else

riven is that

[scenic echo]

You’re gonna wanna get lasting sting on there or else condition overload will never proc

Replace prime pressure point with blood rush if u wanna focus on combo

and likewise weep wounds instead of reach

That or get rid of condition overload - make it a crit centric build only

Cause the -status duration makes it so you cannot proc any status for longer than 1s-0.5s and it rounds down

[drifting jetty]

you dont want to run both primed pressure point and CO

and you also probably want to roll the riven -status duration is very rough

[scenic echo]

Thing is they could still run the riven if they just add lasting sting or change it to be crit focus only

[fierce lark]

the build itself needs fixing before we worry about the riven

and you remove the riven before you add lasting sting to compensate

[drifting jetty]

then you are occupying another modslot just to get a decent power increase or using a worse build just to slot the riven

at that point i wouldn't even use the riven

[scenic echo]

You’re getting a moderate crit boost beyond what you could get without the riven
And it basically covers the crit you would’ve gotten from magnetic might plus some

You’d basically be swapping magnetic might for the riven
Adding lasting sting to keep status dur up

That’s what I’d do

Rivens fine otherwise

[fierce lark]

weepind wounds, blood rush, and organ shatter are all stronger than this riven is currently, especially factoring in the negative

[scenic echo]

Oh wait I’m being dumb, I realized magnetic might is a secondary

Yeahhhhh organ shatter blows this thing out of the water

[fierce lark]

120% cc really isn't that much when you're getting 440% from blood rush already

the build also still looks early game ish and lacks an identity

idk what the user is actually trying to do with it. there's no tennokai, no combo scaling mods, no arcane, the damage type is corrosive

[umbral sleet]

welp i haven't unlocked any melee arcane yet and tennokai i have actually no idea what it is and how it works, but what's wrong with corrosive ?

[drifting jetty]

tennokai is a set of exilus mods that allows for a free heavy attack every couple of light attacks

[fierce lark]

what's wrong with corrosive is mostly that it doesn't synergize with anything

melee builds are heavily built around arcanes

[drifting jetty]

and corrosive isn't a status effect that provides you with damage other than the weapon's raw damage

[fierce lark]

you can go electric with influence for crowd clear (99% of melee builds), you can go a DoT element with afflictions if your weapon is able to knock/lift with one of its combos, or you can go for exposure which just adds it own raw corrosive damage when you use abilities

there's other builds with vortex and duplicate but those 3 are mostly what you'd use

[umbral sleet]

so first thing i gotta do i get the tennokai mod and arcanes ?

[frosty fjord]

tennokai you’ll get after you do whispers in the walls, melee arcanes you also get access to after you do whispers in the walls and you need the melee upgrade segment for helminth (also from whispers in the walls quest)

[fierce lark]

tennokai mod is heavily recommended if you intend on doing a light attack focused build (you need to have completed whispers in the wall)

arcanes are...basically a necessity for melee builds

he has the segment p sure, cause i see the arcane thing in the corner of the screenshot

here's where i crack my knuckles and teach another young tenno about the brainrot that is melee influence

[spiral chasm]

Crabsweat goes crazy

[pallid adder]

I’m interested

[fierce lark]

SPIDERWEBS

steel
pressure
influence
discipline's
elementalist
reach
weeping
electricity
bloodrush
speed

[sacred nexus]

how the hell do people get enough forma to buildcraft/experiment in this game it's so exhausting lol

[fierce lark]

alternatively s means smite and you outsource the attack speed

(or you outsource the faction dmg with roar)

[fierce lark]

well because buildcrafting is kinda solved

the way weapons behave is sometimes different

the way you build them rarely is

[sacred nexus]

weapons sure, but i'm mostly referring to warframes with how differently you can build them

[fierce lark]

ah well

eh, a lot of ppl just copy the popular overframe build and if it feels fine they roll with it

warframe builds are completely personalized to what you want your frame to do

[mortal canyon]

is it me or infested are tankier ? (the elites)

[fierce lark]

infested are the squishiest faction and it's not even anywhere in the realm of close

[sacred nexus]

that's what i do, but i also wanna know how the game works without the whole forma thing lol. If only I can freely change polarity in the simulacrum or something

[mortal canyon]

the tall ones are tanky tho

[fierce lark]

not really, they don't have armor and they take 1.5x damage from the ever popular Heat

[spiral chasm]

Who no CO?

[sacred nexus]

are you referring to ancient healers?

[mortal canyon]

ancients in general

[fierce lark]

CO in the pressure slot if it's applicable to the weapon

also depending on the level of content-

CO ends up not doing anything most of the time because the only status you're spreading is electric

[umbral sleet]

soo this is how the build should look like ?

[fierce lark]

this is how most light-attack focused melee builds should look

[dapper tree]

best syam build with kullervo?? do i go for a more status chance type dmg with influence, or flat crit dmg + exposure?

[fierce lark]

ancients at higher levels have slightly more than 2x the hp of grineer heavy gunners, but they have zero armor, they fall over

[umbral sleet]

discipline's is unlocked from what again ?

[fierce lark]

murmur quest, if you have melee arcanes you can get discipline's

it's the most expensive tennokai mod though and will set you back ~70 plat

[mortal canyon]

i'm barely at 130

[fierce lark]

you can buy one of the cheaper ones, or just use the one that came with the quest

what tennokai does btw, is when you light attack sometimes, and it activates, you'll see a vertical symbol in the middle of your reticle and, for a short window, you can do a heavy attack which is max speed and doesn't consume your combo

[mortal canyon]

it looks like a sword

the thenokai thingy

[spiral chasm]

70 for the mod?

[compact cypress]

what should change on my atlas?

[spiral chasm]

I bought the bundle when it released

[mortal canyon]

saryn. Corinth explosive shot vs bubonico. Which one is the best for dmg purposes on steel ?

(or other options also apply but i only know those 2)

[spiral chasm]

Pretty sure bubonico is really good

[fierce lark]

currently discipline's merit is 85p at lowest sell price lol

usually it's around 70-75, unusually high these days

[spiral chasm]

How much is the bundle?

[fierce lark]

100p :l

[spiral chasm]

This reminds me of when trading nautilus was pricier than the in game market

[fierce lark]

if you were to buy the bundle, sell merit and dreamer's wrath at current prices, you'd profit 15p

[spiral chasm]

Cuz it was 80 for the set to trade but also 80 in the ingame market with a potato

[fierce lark]

i have never used either gun so i have no idea tbh, but out of those two probably bubonico since it can self-viral prime without mods iirc

would have to know what the other options are

[mortal canyon]

change atlas for something else c:

[spiral chasm]

Cedo also good

My OG beloved

[mortal canyon]

watttttttt how dare you not ever used corinth

[fierce lark]

ive leveld base corinth for mr and sold it, das it

[scenic echo]

I mean but you couuuld - idk perhaps not make the most meta build to play into the fun of the riven?

[scenic echo]

Also with blood rush, Steel, and the riven you can stack moooore crit chance

[fierce lark]

you could yes, but when someone is asking for opinions of their build they're probably not asking about how fun it looks

[scenic echo]

Fair lol

I’ll just sit in my corner with my -status dur electric hespar with melee influence and lasting sting lol

[magic cargo]

would arcane reaper work with persistence?

[fierce lark]

for armor yes, for healing no

[fierce lark]

look at it this way

builds are usually trying to do one of two things - either be as effective as possible at what they're trying to do, or be for fun. there can be overlap, of course.

fun is a lot more subjective than effectiveness, and so it's a lot more likely than i can be helpful to someone by suggesting something that is proven to be widely effective, rather than something i think is fun or looks cool - what is fun for me might not be fun for them. conversely - what is strong for me probably will also be strong for them, because we are swinging at the same enemies to some capacity

[terse galleon]

Whats the best gunblade?

[quiet idol]

Hello! Someone can advice me Dorrclave build for The Steel Path. I have no idea how to build at all.

[vagrant lagoon]

These are my frame and companion setups, my friend uses the same builds (mostly) but he can shield gate almost constantly remaining invinsible, but when I try it out on SP i keep running out of energy to even cast molt to proc Brief respite

[dusty dragon]

thinking of cutting one of these mods for health conversion

[fierce lark]

i think for dps the stropha, for combo/stripping the vastilok

[fierce lark]

streamline would be the top contender

[dusty dragon]

ur friend prob has some sort of outsourced energy restoration

[unborn folio]

what would be a good helminth build for protea?

[fierce lark]

saryn's ability to actively shield gate relies very heavily on high KPM to generate orbs with synth deconstruct

if you aren't killing constantly, you aren't getting orbs

[dusty dragon]

i think so, but dropping below 75% efficiency is absolutely painful. it makes getting the ball rolling at mission start AND keeping it rolling harder

[fierce lark]

i haven't had any issues, every kill from a demon marked by gulphagor is a full energy restore

which is 1 kill every 4s lol

[dusty dragon]

depends on what u want her to be, really. gun platform, caster, support?

[fierce lark]

before anything, if you're having difficulty being able to survive through gating, just drop blind rage and run transient instead

the strength scaling on toxic lash is fairly low

same with subsumed roar

[proud anchor]

Personally I would switch out streamline for equilibrium and intensify for health conversion

[fierce lark]

i would've said switch intensify for the bigger intensify

presumably equilibrium is being outsourced to 1-2 violet shards

otherwise it's mandatory

[unborn folio]

caster, but i'd assume it be all red shard build ?

[magic cargo]

does mutagen and antigen affect in a way the vulpaphyla?

[gaunt minnow]

How can I make excal tanky?

[fierce lark]

in a meaningful way? not really

[gaunt minnow]

Damn

[unborn folio]

is any ability infuse good with protea or nah?

[gaunt minnow]

Im debating, should i put roar or terrify on him?

[magic cargo]

on excal?

[gaunt minnow]

Yuh

[magic cargo]

i have nourish on him

[gaunt minnow]

I dont have acces

So i was thinkinh roar

[proud anchor]

Terrify can give you some breathing room

[magic cargo]

grendel isnt that hard to build

[gaunt minnow]

What about to farm

[magic cargo]

yeah you just need vitus essence

[gaunt minnow]

Oh

Well I was thinking about warcry eventually

[vagrant lagoon]

im like MR12 whats an easy (cheap) to build weapon i can take

[magic cargo]

i mean there are better alternatives

[vagrant lagoon]

Currently using a sybaris incarnon

[gaunt minnow]

The augment tho

The more u kill, the longer it lasts

[fierce lark]

do i attempt to recruit into the church of sobek

[trim hill]

Sobek is so good, but it's only tolerable imo with a skin to change the feel of it

[kind mica]

Quick question, should i be putting incarnons on the prime or non prime version, i currently have an okina genesis

[trim hill]

I think most of them are comparable, but primes will tend to be a bit better until maybe you factor in rivens? I don't have many rivens for my incarnons, so they're all prime where possible

[wispy mountain]

i loove aklex prime but its reload is abysmal, what should replace?

[kind mica]

I seee, thanksss

[gaunt minnow]

Prime

[fierce lark]

there's a couple non-primes which are better iirc? dex sibaris supposedly is the only one i remember

but generally speaking, prime > non

[trim hill]

I think Mag Might is the flex mod here

[proud anchor]

Can't you put secondary merciless on your archgun and benefit from the reload speed buff?

[plain drum]

is hunter adrenaline calculated before or after arcane persistence?

[proud anchor]

After

[plain drum]

does it still trigger even after taking 500 damage for the rest of the second?

[proud anchor]

Nah since your health isn't being damaged

[solar sequoia]

im almost finished maxxing unairu. I maxxed zenurik (no tauron yet) so that's 2/5 schools
any recs for schools for their waybounds?

[plain drum]

ight

[vagrant lagoon]

Yo whats a good alternative to Burston prime incarnon in MR12? my friend said the fulmin prime? im currnetly using Sybaris Prime Incarnon rn

[proud anchor]

Naramon has some nice movement qol waybounds
Zenurik for energy
Vazarin for operator healing

[trim hill]

Burston P Incarnon is probably one of the best guns in the game, I reckon

[plain drum]

im pretty sure its soma prime or smth

[proud anchor]

Really up to what you would like to get first

[solar sequoia]

Zenurik maxed already so there's naramon and vazarin

[wispy mountain]

latron prime, but fulmin prime is mad satysfying

fulmin already was a dopamine machine

but fulmin prime is a dopamine factory

[proud anchor]

Boltor prime incarnon

[plain drum]

or if you want a secondary variant theres the laetum (but its raw dps, no critical)

[solar sequoia]

Ok so does this stacks with duviri's instric?

[proud anchor]

It does

[vagrant lagoon]

Im lookin rn since yk the Burston Incarnon genesis is like 6 weeks away still

[solar sequoia]

Epic, does the doubling also accounts for duviri buff as well?

[proud anchor]

I dont think so

[solar sequoia]

Iirc duviri endurance instric gives like, 3/s so does it gets doubled too or is it exempt?

[ember crag]

after my 4 year break leatum helped so much catching up till burston incarn came along

[proud anchor]

I think its exempt since its not part of that waybound. They stack but the extra healing portion of the waybound is seperate

[gaunt minnow]

The tatsu is a spin to win weapon

[proud anchor]

I remembered when galatine with cleaving whirlwind was the og spin2win

[ember crag]

i miss channeling

[plain drum]

i wish heavy melee weapons would be buffed

hammers or heavy blades

[proud anchor]

Same

[sonic drum]

So ehh... how do you build a good base damage phenmor?

[trim hill]

Tatsu is a weapon, unfortunately

[proud anchor]

Haven't they been mostly relegated to slam builds now?

[sonic drum]

Got all the 5 incarnon quests done. SO right now just figuring out how to build it

[proud anchor]

Try this
https://overframe.gg/build/314745/phenmor/the-devouring-void-raw-damage-phenmor/

[trim hill]

Idk, Masseter P does some decent work for me (light attack build)

[plain drum]

thats for hammers, what about heavy blades

[gaunt minnow]

I know, its actually pretty good

[trim hill]

Paracesis might still be okay, but the best heavy blade in my arsenal atm is probably still Exec with a slam build

[plain drum]

sure theres tenet exec but theres better options for a slam build

[trim hill]

Best slam build is Pangolin P, don't @ me

[plain drum]

i dont really know hwo to buff heavy blades without a new mechanic being added

unless theres a way to abuse heavy attacks

hammers focused on slams, light attack weapons focused on influence

[spiral chasm]

true magistar sucks buff it next patch

[plain drum]

what can heavy blades do

[trim hill]

Tbf, Cleaving Whirlwind still got some mad strong spins

[proud anchor]

Maybe increase their follow through to 1.0

[trim hill]

Tempo Royale got them shlams, and Rending Crane gives good mobility

[proud anchor]

That way damage isn't reduced when cleaving through crowds

[chrome badge]

can i get some advice on solo janus vor?

like what kinda weapons should i bring, should i be health-tanking or shieldgating, etc.

[proud anchor]

Think inaros is the only frame that can health tank for solo Janus vor

Most should use passive shield gating

[chrome badge]

i've been trying gauss with aegis

it works too slowly tho

[brittle sleet]

Health-tanking works well against Janus Vor if you're supporting with health regen, which can be done with Tennokai Life Strike on any weapon or with the Hirudo very easily

[trim hill]

You can shield gate, but you really need to be able to watch you don't get nullified by him. Revenant or a dummy thick health-tank worked for me.

Weapons, you should bring the absolute strongest damage you can muster that doesn't rely too heavily on status damage. I used Kuva Hek and Coda Catabolyst for the mob phase

[chrome badge]

kuva hek is a good idea

my biggest issue is the 3rd phase in the new arena

[trim hill]

That is the worst, tbf

[proud anchor]

What about snipers?

[chrome badge]

he keeps zipping around and leaving energy balls or janus beams

[trim hill]

If you've got good aim, snipers might be good, but he moves around a lot

Most of the third phase, you will probably be aim-gliding as well to avoid his attacks, so unless you're really confident in your aim, I'd rather have easy-to-use weapons instead of skill-based ones

[chrome badge]

people say that unairu can armor strip him but i don't think thats true

[trim hill]

I haven't tried recently since the new focus school changes (really, since the attentuation changes)

[proud anchor]

Maybe he's like the wolf of saturn six

I think only shattering impact can armor strip him

[plain drum]

which should i put in on the last slot?

• pistol elementalist
• galvanized crosshairs
• merciless gunfight
  i have nourish so im not modding for viral

theres a hound that can already help trigger cascadia flare

incarnon mode force procs heat

[chrome badge]

nope he can't be armor stripped

[spiral chasm]

maybe primed heated charge?

[plain drum]

oh right

[spiral chasm]

faction dmg is also option

[plain drum]

too lazy to switch

[fierce lark]

scorch should be primed heated charge, last slot lethal torrent

[plain drum]

oh right i forgot abt that

[fierce lark]

and elementalist over isotope prob

[plain drum]

also forgot scorch is placeholder for heated charge

im not done formaing

[fierce lark]

run regular heated charge in the meanwhile then

part of heat dot scaling is modded heat

[plain drum]

primed

im just lazy to type primed heated charge

[trim hill]

Idk, Onos kinda wants fire rate, too. Unless you're building for the Incarnon charge beam and not the big boom

[fierce lark]

ik i mean until you have room to run primed heated charge run the base version, you're always gonna put a dash polarity there anyway

[trim hill]

Def P Heated, fosho

[fierce lark]

lethal torrent gives 60%

[trim hill]

Yeah, but it depends on the build

[mortal canyon]

Heyo peeps. Could any body send a wukong build for a new player?

[trim hill]

Onos is really weird

[trim hill]

How new, friendo?

[plain drum]

they needa change it from headshots to body shots fr

[mortal canyon]

He is Mr bout 5

[abstract bison]

broke on forma and here's what i came up with lol

[fierce lark]

i thought blast vadarya was only good bc of bugs

[abstract bison]

that bug was fixed

[mortal canyon]

Or what is Wu build around? Duration and strength?

[abstract bison]

but ya know blast is still really really good with xata

i just treat the lightning bolt passive as a bonus thing and play this thing like a regular snipper riffle

[plain drum]

its a mix between all

i lowkey dont even know what wukong does other than clones, flying, and that big ass stick

[mortal canyon]

It's boring af. But oh well, he liked it

[plain drum]

im not judging

[mortal canyon]

Can't say much. I main frost tho

[plain drum]

everyone has their favourite frame

[plain drum]

neither can i, i play chroma

an even more boring frame

[mortal canyon]

U rich on credits tho

[trim hill]

I'd probably go with something like this:
https://overframe.gg/build/948324/

Ezpz mods to acquire, no reactor, no forma

[mortal canyon]

Is it me or it's empty

My phone is trolling me

[abstract bison]

incomplete ahh build

[trim hill]

Ah, mobile strikes again

[abstract bison]

enervate does really funny things with Wiseman's Regard holy moly

it's not only enervating the crit but also the status chance haha

[old marsh]

there is another weapon that does the opposite

increases crit based on status

[mortal canyon]

Fast deflection for redirection instead maybe ?

[vocal canyon]

Is there a sp titania build that doesnt use xata? I dont have xaku yet and its a struggle lol

[trim hill]

I recommend Fast Deflection because you will be healing using Cloud Walker, so recharging your shields back up faster is typically better. Plus, you get armor from Defy to help your HP tank even further. Extra shield capacity isn't as good as recharge early game (unless you have space to run both/have a frame without good health/armor stats)

[abstract bison]

idk if it's good or not but it works ig

charges relatively fast without multishot

[mortal canyon]

Ohh ok. Thanks 😄
Just asked 'cause me no clue about wu

[plain drum]

i love semi primer dps secondaries

[mortal canyon]

That with my book is disgusting

[trim hill]

All good, my friend. Wu stacks hella armor and heals quickly, so his shields aren't as strong to invest in early game. Incredibly tanky

[abstract bison]

guhhh

[mortal canyon]

Oof then with adaptation it's a mountain

[trim hill]

Yup, Adaptation will push him into unkillable territory for 98% of content

[faint basin]

any hydroid builds?

[mortal canyon]

For farm?

Duration like a maniac

[trim hill]

This is my go-to, using Nourish over his 1

[mortal canyon]

And if u say for normal use 👀

Me without the pictures of the mods 👨‍🦯

[faint basin]

COOL

btw why no one uses the augment for hydroid 3?

[plain drum]

ARMOR???

HEALING??

[trim hill]

I did, but I found myself wanting Impunity instead so I can actually use his speed

This way, his Surge actually lets him move around like crazy. If you want a slower style, I'd replace Impunity for his 3 augment

[plain drum]

not worth the damage buff, and the healing lowkey sucks

[mortal canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/special-ed-special-gif-14524557650897979460

[trim hill]

The healing is a little nice, but I get more than enough health orbs from Pilfering Swarm, alone

[plain drum]

its not that, its that theres better options for healing

if the healing was like a % of his health then i'd probably use it

[faint basin]

cuz its not % base?

cuz its a flat number?

[plain drum]

yes

[trim hill]

Health Conversion does some heavy lifting to keep my armor high while waiting for a good change to steal some corroded armor

[plain drum]

and even if its flat number its relatively low

unlike grendel's nourish

you know where im going with this

[faint basin]

why does de make a healing ability adn then makes it a flat number that sucks

[plain drum]

guy has all the prerequisites to spam this and de gives him flat 50 that only gets buffed a little

[trim hill]

For Arcanes, I run Blessing and Battery, meself

[faint basin]

is that blessing and battery

thought it was persistence

[trim hill]

It isn't Blessing nor Batry

[plain drum]

persistence and primary overcharge

[zealous rapids]

persistense and reconstruct?

[thick creek]

Are any of these rivens worth rolling? I’m not very knowledgeable about weapons.. no we don’t mention the stug

[trim hill]

I was going to mention the Stug

[gaunt minnow]

Stug riven is best

[thick creek]

It’s actually a pretty decent riven too 😭

[trim hill]

Real talk, Quellor is insane

[zealous rapids]

cestra is pretty fun with incarnon

[gaunt minnow]

Lets see it

[gaunt minnow]

That is prettu good

[trim hill]

This is my Quellor riven, and it hits like a truck

[gaunt minnow]

Dont roll it 😭

[thick creek]

Damnnn

[gaunt minnow]

Holy

[thick creek]

The fact it has abt the same stats as my stug riven 😭

[trim hill]

Quellor is the definition of a slept on gun, imho

[thick creek]

Trust I can build the stug to be super op

[trim hill]

I've been thinking about rebuilding the Stug, and you've convinced me

[gaunt minnow]

Can you do that for the tatsu?

I currently have a build for it but i want to make it better and build around it unique ability

[thick creek]

Greatest quellor riven ever guys

[gaunt minnow]

Hm

[trim hill]

Definitely need crit chance, it's a huge hitter on the alt fire

[thick creek]

GUYS I CAN FINALLY HEAL THE ENEMIES

[trim hill]

Why not try a Blast/Gas influence?

[gaunt minnow]

Imagine if it was minus zoom

[trim hill]

It was almost a godroll, man we love rivens here

[gaunt minnow]

I'll try it. Im modding around soul swarm since its abikilty trigger infkuence and is multipkicative with CO

[thick creek]

Said I need crit chance.. well.. heh, I got crit chance

[trim hill]

I don't think the swarm projectiles work with Maiming Strike, do they?

[thick creek]

It’s negative, but it’s still crit chance 🤷‍♂️

[trim hill]

Lol, don't mind how many times I rolled mine. You're doing alright

[gaunt minnow]

Im not sure 🤔, they do get buffed by arcane arachne

[thick creek]

Wait is this actually kinda op 😭

[gaunt minnow]

Holy

[trim hill]

Now this is podracing

Slap Viral/Internal Bleeding on there, and you're good to go

[thick creek]

It’s like yours.. but worse… and with slash I guess

[thick creek]

Bet

[trim hill]

Primary fire to procc viral, then alt fire for bigpp damage + insane bleeds

[thick creek]

(I don’t even have the quellor and I’m MR 12 so I can’t use the riven but it’s fine)

[trim hill]

Super simple building, too. If no riven, I'd just use Elementalist

[thick creek]

Kk

[gaunt minnow]

Idk if i should like this or not

[zealous rapids]

you get this weapon from railjack

[trim hill]

Free Influence mod, tbh, lol

[gaunt minnow]

I'll trade that for any tatsu riven

[trim hill]

If for whatever reason I come across a Tatsu riven, I'll just gift it to you

[gaunt minnow]

🙏🏽

[trim hill]

I have a ton of random goofy ahh rivens, but none for Tatsu, smh my head

[gaunt minnow]

Im trying to make it as best as possible

[thick creek]

What weapon type is tatsu? I can try getting it too

[gaunt minnow]

2HN

[trim hill]

Melee, ye

[thick creek]

Alr

[gaunt minnow]

2 hand nikana*

[dense olive]

I’m glad Hildryn got attention recently

[rotund vale]

i got this riven, but never really looked at the vulkar or vulkar wraith.
is it worth keeping?

[loud knot]

Hildryn is an absolute menace

[trim hill]

Man, not particularly good with that low status chance. Would be great if running maybe HM, but then the Heat is basically a dead stat, too...

[loud knot]

Got Okina prime inxarnon and amalgam mod and she flies faster than jade in aegis storm

[dense olive]

Aegis Gale makes her a flying war crime

[trim hill]

Almost 300% cc is insane, tho

[abstract bison]

sike it's a viral multishot build again

[rotund vale]

first i was thinking perhaps a blast dmg headshot build, but with the lowered status, i'm not sure how feasible that is

[proud anchor]

Even then, electric is better since it scales better with mods and headshot multipliers

[loud knot]

And im doing vollies up to 5M a hit and it hits 3 times a volly

100% aegis gale uptime with raska kubrow lol

[trim hill]

I'd reroll, fosho. Even though it hurts to leave that crit chance behind 💔

[rotund vale]

i can keep this till i find something better i guess

[ember condor]

How well would a 447 Amp perform with the new mods buffing them? Thinking of swapping off my 147 to switch things up.

[dense olive]

I use her with the Furax Amalgam Mod and a Wyrm Prime with the Vulcax that has the vigilante mods

[proud anchor]

Is 4 prism the full auto amp?

[dense olive]

And secondary enervate for balefire, idk if merciless would be better tho

[proud anchor]

Regardless it should do well since even my 777 amp has been wrecking eidolons

[proud anchor]

Enervate better

[dense olive]

I remember the days that amp was meta

[loud knot]

Furax is good too but she shoots fast enough imo. I want faster flying over faster shooting

[dense olive]

Thought so

[proud anchor]

You could probably use molt over haven in that case

[ember condor]

Might be using the wrong number but I’m referring to the one with the primary fire that’s a short ranged cone.

[loud knot]

I use chroma subsume for more shields

[dense olive]

I have Vial Rush over Haven to fly across the room if need be lol

[proud anchor]

Oh thats 7 prism, klamora and yes it does really well with those new mods

[woeful panther]

im trying to unlock the melee arcane slot on the vinquibus but every time i do it it says "reconfiguration could not be completed" is this a known bug or something?

[dusty dragon]

how many more forma am i willing to throw into a non-prime warframe?

[dense olive]

Depends what frame

[ember condor]

Neat. I remember trying to use it some time ago when I just happened to start regularly going against higher levels and how badly it falls off while my 147 was still doing just fine.

[loud knot]

@proud anchor I Okina incarnon and amalgam mod on my sidearm. Shes zooming now.

[dense olive]

If its a frame thats about to get a prime then i would hold off but if its a new one then you can go ham

[dusty dragon]

just in general, but specifically uriel

[proud anchor]

If its a recent frame, probably not a bad idea. If its an older frame, then id hold off

[dusty dragon]

ive already sunk 4 forma into uriel cause he's that fun, but i have a build in mind that would go up to 6

[abstract bison]

good ol viral heat, nothing beats that

Feigned Retreat, Rapid Reinforcement, Wiseman's Regard

[ember condor]

If it’s a weapon good at applying tons of status stacks I always like to go for pure heat with Secondary Encumber.

[late ice]

Which progenitor element is best for coda catabolyst

[abstract bison]

oh right galv shot

[winter charm]

I need end game dante build

[late ice]

Its 60% toxin rn

[abstract bison]

oh wow just switching to encumber on the same build is just war crimes

[faint basin]

does tidal inmunity status inmunity counts also as knockdown inmunity?

[brittle sleet]

Status immunity always equates to knockdown immunity for future reference

[faint basin]

tidal impunity should be base kit instea dof ebing an augment tho

[proud anchor]

That could be said for a lot of augments

[fervent rapids]

at least the status cleanse is base kit

[faint basin]

really?

[fervent rapids]

yes

tidal immunity only adds the immunity after the ability

[faint basin]

xd

tidal should be base kid or exilus slot mod

[velvet pulsar]

One is bulwark?
What's the other?

[wide dragon]

Is shock trooper the only way to allow the spinerex to work in an influence build?

[trim hill]

Someone pls rate my Dagath build. I think it's pretty solid, but I'm just a dweeb
https://overframe.gg/build/948384/

[wild rune]

[timid dust]

best kuva weapon?

[trim hill]

Best is probably Hek, but Chakkhurr is 🤌

[median heron]

You should be buying the element switcher thing anyway, its only 50k rep

[old marsh]

Close tie between Sobek & Nukor
Sobek basically wipes entire tilesets in one shot. Nukor is arguable one of the best secondaries in the game

[subtle fulcrum]

Ogris sobek

[old marsh]

Sobek is so busted. Probably the only weapon in game to have 3 augments. Like bruh

meanwhile majority of weapons starving for just 1

[subtle fulcrum]

It's not busted by itself, it's busted due to warframe abilities, so is ogris

[old marsh]

Ye

[median heron]

If youre using acid shells base sobek with a riven is better

[old marsh]

But 3 augments. U gotta wonder if it’s Pablo’s favorite weapon

[near vortex]

sobek on its own is mid
Sobek with like 6 different frames is cracked

It might be 7 now since Uriel's on the list

Saryn
Oraxia
Cyte
Garuda
Zephyr
Nova
Uriel

[subtle fulcrum]

Frost, xaku

[near vortex]

Frost?

[hard dove]

You can use xata whisper and everyone become good with sobek

[near vortex]

I don't know how frost interacts with it

[median heron]

Id rather they fix acid shell scaling on SP

[subtle fulcrum]

Needs armor strip too

[subtle fulcrum]

Armor strip and xata

[old marsh]

So Nekros, Hildryn, and basically anyone who can have both

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[near vortex]

Well, not every frame gets to abuse acid shells like the 7 I listed do

[old marsh]

But fr. When r we getting Chahkurr augment

[near vortex]

There might be more I missed but I'm only aware of the 7

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-crying-gif-15896901980625544793

[hard dove]

Now gus with xata and thermal transfer is it's own funni of another level

[near vortex]

Thermal Transfer Uriel

[old marsh]

[subtle fulcrum]

Not all frames in your list are on par with each other

[near vortex]

Every frame on the list at least has unique interactions with Acid Shells

Outside of just Xatas and strip

[subtle fulcrum]

Yes but not the same power

[old marsh]

guys. Let’s get back to topic. Sobek, Hek, Ogris & Nukor r a must have

[near vortex]

Saryn, Oraxia, Cyte and Uriel can make Acid Shells force proc elements which can retrigger acid shells
Acid Shells can proc slash from Seeking Talons, doubled with Xatas which can retrigger
Kills done by Sobek and activate Molecular Prime explosions which can retrigger acid shells on kill
Zephyr funnel clouds

[near vortex]

Bramma if you can fix ammo

[trim hill]

Sobek needs outside sources to shine. It certainly does in a full build, but by itself it isn't da best, just solid

[old marsh]

Ye. I have stopped using Zarr & tonkor unless using cyte

[near vortex]

Kohm is also excellent, though I don't have kohm yet

[subtle fulcrum]

Zarr for crewmate

[old marsh]

Ye

Should be illegal

[subtle fulcrum]

Energized munitions exits but eh

[near vortex]

The mighty Kuva Seer

[subtle fulcrum]

Yeah khom is decent

[old marsh]

It’s good till EDA/ETA. I tried level cap. Just couldn’t

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[near vortex]

Kuva Grattler is goated

[old marsh]

Kuva Seer ETA viable?

[trim hill]

Almighty SEER solos the whole game

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[subtle fulcrum]

You absolutely can

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/going-home-off-work-leaving-work-stanley-hudson-the-office-gif-16011480

Time to slap some Lich Ass

[subtle fulcrum]

The new primary debilitate does wonders

[fierce lark]

i thought the seer was a pistol

[wild rune]

I think they're talking about kohm here

I personally never liked the kohm lines tbh

[fierce lark]

lmao oh

[rain nexus]

What can I improve in my Phantasma Prime build? I also need a secondary or melee weapon to kill Acolytes and enemies that take low status damage! Any suggestions are welcome.

Impiedade Arcane = Merciless

[fierce lark]

i built a kkohm for hemocyte

it impressed

and then they nerfed attenuation

[wild rune]

I bullied the hemo with soma incarnon lmao

[fierce lark]

boar probably gives him the business

(incarnoff)

[wild rune]

soma just felt the closest to pyrana prime as a primary, so I went with it
full auto shotgun with 200 shells is no joke

[fierce lark]

kkohm is kinda just

a high stat shotgun

if you mod corro with nourish or viral with strip and have mag progen, i fail to see how anything could stop it

[trim hill]

Does Phantasma P alt fire still do decent work scaling with mag size? Or is it not worth going for?

[fierce lark]

im actually a big fan of the kuva kind weirdly enough

[wild rune]

not worth

[wild rune]

I like Kuva Hind since I'm a big advocate for Tiberon Prime

[fierce lark]

fills the “assault rifle go brr” void in a way that doesn’t feel like shit

still in the hema aug waiting room

i pray i can throw it on uriel and it actually feels like im jesus

[abstract bison]

wait a seconddd

secondary irradiate

[fierce lark]

i can’t see it not being really good, that’s too many stats to put on a gun that’s already good base stats and has innate viral

[scenic echo]

BTW what builds are yall using for the alternox?

I saw this one, but it just boggles my brain - why use serration and galv. aptitude\

and what purpose does scope even have on there

[austere flume]

Anyone tried going heat and radiation on jades glory now with the new Arcane?

[trim hill]

Ngl, Alternox is rough. I have a build, but it desperately needs a riven

[scenic echo]

i have a riven and it desperately needs a build lmao

its pretty poopoo, but i was reading that some builds need crit and it was boggling my mind as to why cause this riven makes things make no sense

[trim hill]

This is what I'm stuck at so far, would def recommend using base Alternox when running a riven atm

[scenic echo]

but why galv chamber

[trim hill]

The alt fire is a great in-line primer. You can then use your main fire to get some decent damage with gaptitude

[scenic echo]

and ty for not putting serration and aptitude on there lol

its like putting condition overload and Pressure point on the same build - there can only be one

[trim hill]

Tbf, Alternox needs all the help it can get, but I'd much rather offload another damage mod onto a riven rather than slotting Serration

At least that way, you can get more than just more raw

[scenic echo]

what arcane are u using?

i saw some arguments for frostbite, some for deadhead

[trim hill]

I wanna say I'm running Debilitate or Merciless, but I can't find it on the companion app

I did a lot of tinkering with this gun, not sure exactly where I settled

[wild rune]

*with the one exception of multiCO existing on the weapon

[scenic echo]

multi co, whatchu mean? 😮

[thick seal]

hey guys, if im correct, galvanized chamber would be way better than split chamber because of it being stackable, right?

[scenic echo]

yee

[trim hill]

9.9/10 cases, yes

[wild rune]

"Multiplicative Condition Overload", aka an interaction where Galvanized Aptitude and its derivatives are multiplicative to base damage sources, like Serration and Merciless arcanes, instead of the intended additive effect, which makes things hit very funny numbers

it's not common, but amusing when it comes up

[scenic echo]

so is the alternox a special case of this?

and does that mean we want big boom serration?

[wild rune]

I don't believe Alternox is multiCO, it was moreso an exception to your statement of never having gundition and serration on a build

[scenic echo]

ah gotcha gotcha

[mighty flare]

it is

[mighty flare]

yes alternox is also multico, the mainfire

[trim hill]

So with this riven, if you run the base Alternox, you might want to consider running both gapt and raw

[blissful ocean]

laetum build for prime vanguard. any good?

[fervent rapids]

it's Laetum so

[undone dust]

hemorrhage is definitely a choice

straight elec is also definitely a choice

[undone dust]

yeah that doesnt matter that much LMAO

[blissful ocean]

ight then what do i go for lmao

[undone dust]

i defaulted to my crit corro heat build for laetum and it still absolutely pissed on them

blast elec might be funny for when the multiple ones drop but i dont know how well it would work for the singular vanguard drops

[fervent rapids]

as long as you're not using a Resistance you're fine

[undone dust]

it is laetum though so

just run hildryn and one shot them

the method

[coral crest]

impact

caliban weak to head trauma :(

[undone dust]

caliban just a baby 🙁

im going to kill discord for these automatic emojis

[coral crest]

you can turn these off

how else do you think i can use :( and :) and <3

[undone dust]

they were off before i have no idea why theyre back on

[covert acorn]

Anyone have a good hydroid build for Sp?

No? Okay

[trim hill]

I posted one earlier, hang on

#builds-discussion message

[undone dust]

nourish over 1 is definitely an idea but i fw it

seeing tidal being used brings me
joy

[trim hill]

The idea was that I was already going to use the augment for his 1 to get viral, but I also wanted better energy economy... So I saved a mod slot is all, lol

His 1 is still really good, tho. Just personal pref

[undone dust]

truth!, i do love his 4 but sometimes i enjoy being more active with his 1 (plus it's a bit easier to build up plunder with it

his 4 is really nice for pyrotechnics though

[wild rune]

interesting, updating the headspace then

[trim hill]

I have yet to get Temple, but that sounds hella interessante

[undone dust]

it very much so is, plunder allows pyro to actually proc corro

it also gets the extra damage from it

[trim hill]

Super weird, huh. I'm liking what I'm hearing

[undone dust]

it's pretty fun for defending exos in cascade or just locking down areas in general

[fierce lark]

i like how you commented on hemorrhage and pure elec being weird

[viscid bane]

Is Arcane nullifer mandatory for solo hardmode bosses?

[fierce lark]

and not cascadia garbage

[real adder]

hey guys do i have to mod for viral/corrosive on a weapon even if i outsource it on a companion?

[undone dust]

to be honest i didnt even notice that

[fierce lark]

it becomes less important, but you still have to weigh the less viral stacks/potential of not getting them in time vs what else you could be doing with the mod slot

[undone dust]

i was more appalled by hemorrhage

[fierce lark]

at least hemmorhage does something

[hushed pivot]

Would there be a better arcane to use on my corinth prime? I've been using merciless and it seems to work well enough, But I usually put that on anything by default unless there's something that works better

[undone dust]

slash in the big 26 ✌️🥹❤️‍🩹

[fierce lark]

cascadia empowered does an occasional 750 damage on a gun that’s trying to his dps numbers above 10mil

[brazen berry]

This is my vinquibus build and the damage is well quite underwhelming, any suggestions?

[undone dust]

empowered is peak! trust!!

[fierce lark]

just making sure you see this, cascadia empowered is absolute trash even on guns that can apply statuses rapidly, and laetum is not one of those guns

[real adder]

i got this dual coda toxirca build and i was wondering if i can outright just run electric/heat and fill the viral slots with anemic agility + punch through for better crowd clearing. would that even be worth?

also on a totally different topic. does wukong clone get the arcane persistence buff? 😝

[unreal quest]

Does archon intensify work with Uriel now?

[mighty flare]

wouldnt reccomend acuity in general
https://overframe.gg/build/935951/vinquibus/vinquibus-viralheat-variations/

[sullen python]

how do i mod my nokko?

[fierce lark]

ehhhhh maybe? if you want punch through you should probably just slot merciless gunfight over lethal torrent and run a reinforced bond pet instead

[brazen berry]

Heat viral hmm I should try that, someone had told me they could only get this weapon to deal some damage with acuity

[mighty flare]

high strength and range with duration from archon continuity

[mighty flare]

they are lying 👍

[fierce lark]

yes

[brazen berry]

Alright I'll try it out

[real adder]

i alr got reinforced bond 😝 i will slot pt over lethal torrent thx

[mighty flare]

run magnetic might at least

[real adder]

ill run magnetic progenitor

when i get it to rank 40

thats enough right?

[gleaming oasis]

so I'm looking to deck out a melee for better steel path viability. none of these are forma'd. which would be the easier one to start with. Amanata, Dual Ichor with incarnon, Harmony, Hate with incarnon, or Skiajati?