builds-discussion

[mighty flare]

if you have crit buffs, you can use vital/crit delay over thermite rounds

[bitter plaza]

idk which one to choose. the same riven practically but heat or electricity.

and i dont have any more kuva so this is my last role

[hybrid path]

How much would riven mode for lex with
+235.8% damage
+99% critical damage
X0.82 damage to infested worth?

[fierce lark]

im a bit late but electric

[bitter plaza]

thats what i went for 🙏

[old marsh]

its decent enough. start with 2k. maybe someone reach out to negotiate. can go for 300p easily

[distant plank]

Hello Can someone slide me build for Guandao Prime for Steel Path ?

[fierce lark]

better general use element, can also combine to make corrosive/radiation if you wanted to go the raw damage route

[hybrid path]

Alr thx

[old marsh]

and pray to god someone is willing to buy it. Lex riven sells for a lot but thousands r doing the same. so hard to get a decent deal.

i have a really good rivens for Magistar, Dark Sword, Battacor, Ocucor, Tenet Envoy, etc but no one wants to buy them at high enough prices.

[distant plank]

I have riven for Glaive that is just sitting in my inventory

[fierce lark]

it would appear that the heat damage from uskos doesn't combine with weapon mods

enjoy your +250% heat damage without having to mod for heat

[hybrid path]

Tbh I prefer to trade for modes I need

Prime mode archon modes maybe vinqubus

[lapis falcon]

do i lose dps if i run nourish at ~230% str with furis?

[hybrid path]

I rather not get plat

[foggy bolt]

you could trade for plat then later trade plat for mods

[hybrid path]

Or just trade this straight for the modes I need under the same value of plat

[foggy bolt]

most people don't like trading stuff for stuff

they would rather trade stuff for money

@hybrid path

[hybrid path]

Wellp

[foggy bolt]

you can get plat for free unless you are on switch

by trading with other players

[hybrid path]

I actually never gotten plat for free only by buying

[foggy bolt]

ok, I'm just saying that you don't have to pay to get it

[hybrid path]

Ik I'm not a complete baby tenno

[foggy bolt]

ok

[lavish orbit]

Idk whats the mr prerequisite for vinquibus

[queen terrace]

Is Vadarya prime good on Gyre prime? I have a build that does red numbers with invis Cyte09, but I want a build for Gyre.

[lavish orbit]

You just enhance electric damage with electric damage with her augment, there's no real synergy besides that

[dapper coral]

Why won’t it let me infuse the same ability into a different config

[icy nacelle]

So my final (for now) loadout is as follows:

Harrow (prime)
Scourge (prime)
Laetum
Zaw
Chesa Kubrow

I'll focus on sinking my resources into these 5 things until I have a comfortable end-game capable build and branch out from there.

I'll probably hold off on sinking any more resources into my current harrow and scourge until I can verify whether or not I can trade resources to grab their primes 🤔

In the meantime, what should I focus on for a scourge build?

[fervent rapids]

Can't have the same Infusion on multiple loadouts of a frame IIRC.

[dapper coral]

I’ve had the same one on different configs before

[lavish orbit]

Nope not possible if not a bug

[lavish orbit]

Scourge is more of a stick that you throw to use the passive more than firing with it

[icy nacelle]

I mean, correct.

I'd still like to make sure it can do something beyond being the bullet equivalent of a lightning rod lmao

[fervent rapids]

Spearguns need love, they don't even have their own tag with the new weapon tag system

they're just "Miscellaneous"

[icy nacelle]

Spearguns have been done dirty

[fierce lark]

are there any gunframes that have a high base armor? wondering if there's anything that can actually work with primary overcharge using arcane battery or smth

[carmine mist]

its still day time on earth

whts going on

[lavish orbit]

I personaly did a viral heat common rifle build on it, it still kicks in

[glass jewel]

So I hear that Tauron Strike is charged by an initial amount upon picking up a focus orb and then charges based off of kills during the focus orbs duration

My question is... will it still charge any significant modicum at all if you have Focus Lenses of another school other than the one you have a tauton strike? If that's the case then you wouldn't be able to reasonably use your ultimate ability on the loadouts you want to switch around to since you can only have one lens per each item

I'm hoping the amount its charged is indiscriminate to whatever type of lens you are using.

[lavish orbit]

Iirc its indiscriminate, didn't see any difference

[glass jewel]

Personally I'm not a fan of the value and amount being charged being relative to the quantity and quality of the lenses you have, I think owning the tekolyst artifact alone should BE the lens needed to cause orbs to spawn (if this has to be thee way to charge the ability in the first place)

even after making an entire loadout with all lenses slotted for the correct tree with the initial charge arcane and mod, ive still to this day yet to have used the ultimate ability once out in the wild, it does not charge fast enough for it to ever be used in a mission, bringing it into deep and temporal archemidia no mission will last long enough for its underwhelming utility to finally be graced upon me for the amount of time waited to even have a chance to activate it

Is there no Wiki page for these things yet? I do not like treating Speculation as truth

Lord knows It doesn't tell you these details in game, Marie just gives you a little animation after hours of grinding and sends you on your way

[drowsy herald]

Anyone got a good archimedes build for revenant prime/cedo prime combo

I'm gonna unlock the cavia archemeida this week

[glossy patio]

Is there a good load out to use on Limbo for the express purpose of farming with the crate break?

[lavish orbit]

Keep calm, iirc you don't need a lens, I sometimes got a blue bubble to appear when I didn't have a lens appearing (can be related to perita only tho...).
Plus, it is an ultimate, if you could use every 2 min, it wouldnt feel like it's a precious ability, but DE will I think hear the community and make it usable faster maybe

[glass jewel]

Perita gives you all artifacts on every school and completing objectives charges it a ton for free

[lavish orbit]

Not talking about that but the blue bubble focus

[round flower]

Can someone tell me which is better?

[dusty dragon]

whats a better option for general survivability on uriel? health/armor or shields?

[median heron]

What makes it an ultimate?

The effect? Hardly

If im waiting for 5 mins to use an ability it better kill every object and living thing within 50m radius with no los and loot everything automatically too

Otherwise its worse than a rando aoe wep

[lavish orbit]

Ah yes, if it's not optimized it's useless

[median heron]

well, yes... if it cannot do anything that you can't do without it why would you use it

it will only be used for passive buffs on usage if the charge gets fixed, not for damage

[lavish orbit]

Nice, I didn't talk about the damage, the buffs are good tho

[nova swift]

apparently theres a bunch of things that either work or dont, depending on if its a normal mission or perita, and if you are host, client or solo

the naramon bonus swords for example dont seem to generate charge either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nWJ__p3hcA

[ionic sky]

Rate the roll

[charred gale]

7/10

[fierce lark]

alright, are we still influence slopping the bayonet

[lavish orbit]

I prefer melee doughty

[mighty flare]

yes

[fierce lark]

doughty can't possibly be good if it means i have to fully omit elements and add more puncture

[mighty flare]

yes, doughty is very bad

[fierce lark]

is this a heavy spam or a tennokai weapon

trying to play normal melee with a weapon meant to hybrid as a primary seems not ideal

[mighty flare]

optimal for influence would be light spam

[fierce lark]

yeah idk wtf im doing with this yet

lol

[mighty flare]

replace bane with atkspd or whatever

[fierce lark]

looks about right

do you run dexterity on the gun or just naramon?

[mighty flare]

i use archguns for dex

[fierce lark]

you inherit dex from the archgun in your heavy slot?

[mighty flare]

yes

[fierce lark]

huh

[mighty flare]

you can inherit several things from archguns actually

secondary fortifier, primary bulwark, and dexterity arcanes

[fierce lark]

apparently i have to go back to fortuna and get archun adapters

wtf lol

is there a non-melee frame with enough natural armor to get bulwark from like 1 mod?

[nova swift]

oh my god arcane concentration is amazing on WoL mag, because well of life lasts longer then magnetise, if you cast well of life first then magnetise will outlast it and still explode with concentration

[mighty flare]

all i can think of is hydroid, chroma, lavos, oberon, grendel

[fierce lark]

qorvex

not really a "gun" frame but has 800 armor

[mighty flare]

i wouldnt consider qorvex an anything frame

[fierce lark]

uhhh

he's a great enabler for someone else's secondary irradiate

[mighty flare]

replace bane with primed shred or magnetic capacity

[fierce lark]

lmfao

[mighty flare]

thats very sad

not something to be proud of at, being a glorified rad primer

[fierce lark]

lmao in theory being able to fully stack rad on an entire room instantly is decent cc if nothing else

gives everyone status immunity

okay support frame that does okay aoe with some okay armor strip

or something

im coping my ass off ik

[drowsy herald]

I got Oberon today I think I'll get hyrdoid this week

[drowsy herald]

How does secondary fortifier work with that? Like you just have it on your archgun and shoot enemies with your secondary, or does it work with primary too

[fierce lark]

probably just shooting overguard with your secondary does fortifier things

[mighty flare]

parkouring triggers fortifier

[brittle smelt]

Build recommendations for voruna? I really wanna enjoy her but damn

[fierce lark]

are there any prisma/vandal weapons worth keeping?

need to clear up some space

[mighty flare]

prisma: veritux, angstrum, gorgon, skana, dual decurions
wraith: furax
vandal: opticor, dera, lato

[fierce lark]

damn, no mention of the opticor vandal

idr when or why i invested exilus potato and a forma into this

[mighty flare]

oh i misread vandal

[fierce lark]

any of the non-prime side weapon variants really

im not overly concerned about the syndicate weapons since i can get those back at any point

[frigid crater]

Atlas counts as melee?

[frigid crater]

Better than doing nothing (i hate you banshee)

[nova swift]

nekros prime with health conversion gets really close to maxed out bulwark

[fierce lark]

gloom banshee gloom banshee gloom banshee gloom banshee gloom banshee

[frigid crater]

Ohhhh i love some gloom in my build my gloomslop slup yummmyyyyyy

[nova swift]

1485 armor on nekros prime /w health conversion

[fierce lark]

i think just about anyone with maxed health conversion gets close to the bulwark cap

the issue is keeping the stacks

[frigid crater]

Wait rhino exists

[nova swift]

well nekros can shield tank if you want to with shield of shadows/adaptation so you just use your health as a despoil tank

but yea other characters need a reliable way of generating health orbs. Maybe citrine?

[fierce lark]

synth deconstruct is calling

alright well apparently i have to do a bunch of deepmine since you can cheat with archguns

[fluid gulch]

is the legendary core worth spend it on the primary acuity? or just keep it for a primed mod

[mighty flare]

def no for acuity

[midnight horizon]

Only worth for legendaries

Anything else, even if it has 10 levels, would be a waste

[fervent rapids]

Only for Legendary 10-dot mods, since they're the most expensive

[tropic badger]

for Uriels archon shards i have 1 tau yellow cast speed, 2 tau red stregnth, 1 tau red duration. should i do another cast speed, parkour (i run praedos), stregnth or duration in the last slot?

[short mauve]

Laetum could be a nice pick with the new radiation mod aint it?

[fervent rapids]

Laetum is always just a good pick

[wanton raptor]

do we think stats well rounded for valkyr

[short mauve]

LOL true too

Laetum is fully builded on no crits no?

Considering the last evolution makes the no crits do 2000%

[fervent rapids]

ideally yeah

so get the perk that lowers ur crit chance too

[short mauve]

The damage increase affects to elements too? Or just the pure damage

[fervent rapids]

not sure if it affects status damage actually

[short mauve]

Mhh with the new mod it could go quite nutts if it does

Still i need mastery 14 so.

Getting mostly ideas

[fierce lark]

pretty sure the ‘good’ laetum evo is the one that gives stacking % base damage on no crit/status proc

and then you run enervate/outburst

[proven veldt]

I found a problem with my coda pathocyst

it has been doing like 900k heavy attacks before, now its like 30k if it goes well

i changed nothing so i assume i must blame DE

[severe bough]

Removed mod config?

Whatever i wouldnt look at damage numbers in game

[proven veldt]

nah mod config is the same, kinda stupid looking but it still does like close to zero damage

[severe bough]

Most scuffed thing in wf is to concentrate on damage Numbers

[proven veldt]

Ive been running steel path vallis undermind and my one shot damage cannon is no longer one shot damage cannon

[severe bough]

Supposed to be a light build?

[proven veldt]

its not

its for heavy attack

[proven veldt]

Bro im trying to run steel path damage numbers are essential for me to not die so i have no idea what should a change other than them

[severe bough]

A lmao its a glaive

I thought was the scyte thing

[severe bough]

Galv steel --> sac steel
Galv ele --> normal ele
Melee prowees --> volatile quick return

[potent bramble]

can i get a great scourge prime build?

[severe bough]

https://overframe.gg/build/816664/

[severe bough]

For utility?

[proven veldt]

galv steel gives needed crit damage, i already have 50% crit chance with it and the only thing sac steel does is bump it up to 60% which is literally nothing

i do not need normal elementalist because the only thing it does different is give me more heavy wind up speed which literally does nothing for damage and i don't really care if its 1 second longer i still will kill nobody regardless

volatile quick return is literally worthless because it only gives slight buff to the range while literally crippling my status chance because this weapon has it quite poor. My status would change by 31% while the only thing i get in return is a little big of a bubble which doesn't matter if i can't kill with it.

[potent bramble]

more/less this is what im running, i like the weapon so i want at least sp durable build

i use it quite often so

it would be nice

[severe bough]

double crit on heavys
Normal ele is pers pref keep galv elementalist that alone should boost your status enough use a bane over ppp

And hitting more enemys is good

[severe bough]

I would probably replace thermite rounds with a bane but thats up to u

[proven veldt]

double crit on heavies means nothing if you're already past the 50% mark or so near it that chances of getting a normal heavy near zero

Bane mods are cringe

hitting more enemies is good when you don't trade status chance and possible activation of influence for it.

[severe bough]

But looks good

[potent bramble]

u say?

[blissful knoll]

If this is pure heavy spam, where's galv reflex? If this is 12x tennokai heavy, where's bloodrush and weeping wounds?

[severe bough]

Lmao there isnt even galv reflex💀

Didnt saw that

[proven veldt]

galv reflex is needed when you have benefits from combo

[severe bough]

The weapon benefits from combo

[proven veldt]

i may be stupid but i don't think combo do anything without special mods

[severe bough]

Its not sampo

[blissful knoll]

You know combo multiplier literally multiplies your damage right?

[proven veldt]

huh

do i replace voltaic strike then?

because its kinda needed for the chance

[blissful knoll]

For 5x heavy spam you want smth like killing blow, amalgam organ shatter, galv elementalist, galv reflex, voltaic strike/focus energy, volatile quick return, sac steel, faction or or ppp

With voltaic strike + galv ele you hit just above 100 status chance on heavy

[proven veldt]

12x tennokai heavy build is lets say strange at best. Tried it just now

[blissful knoll]

The combo build is a bit slow with 12x tennokai but it's consistently more damage

Also I'm not sure if this still works but you can trick tennokai into proccing on every hit on glaives by swapping from melee to onehand secondary + melee iirc

Not sure if this has been fixed

[fervent rapids]

Combo multiplier boosts your Heavy attack

that's why Tennokai was such a huge addition: it let you do heavies without consuming combo

[blissful knoll]

Glaives are kinda clunky in general which is why i prefer exodia contagion nowadays

A lot easier to use brainlessly imo

[fervent rapids]

ah this is about Glaives in particular

for throw-spam glaive builds most people prefer to mod for Initial Combo

[proven veldt]

which does no damage, i tried

[blissful knoll]

Wdym, it pops like easy 2mil

[proven veldt]

then i build it wrong

[blissful knoll]

No buffs

[weary elbow]

I posted this in gameplay but I think this is the proper channel. Anyone could help me?

[fervent rapids]

ouch, War but no Broken War

https://tenor.com/view/ouch-not-good-gif-24090231

[random prawn]

Is this a good Kuva Nukor?

[green gyro]

it's ait

one more fuse and it's 60%

[honest heart]

Current Nataruk, I got a lot of modifs to do yet but I just want to know if it's a correct build or no

[green solstice]

is there ways to improve xaku build here

plan to use it for the new modes

[midnight horizon]

How do I tank gauss without aegis / 😺🛡️ / kinetic plating

Cuz I uhhh uuh I just don't like any of em

[green solstice]

yeah but put out that puncture mod out. I dont have the feeling that will help

[blissful atlas]

Is this an okay-ish build for dual ichor?

[honest heart]

What do I replace it with, then ?

[green solstice]

if you want add some fire rate if you can handle it

[honest heart]

Alr

It rly drops my dmg tho

[green solstice]

your main topic in your build is your credits and definitely forma I assume

yeah put out puncture reduces your output, but you need first max you MS out

[honest heart]

Forma I have, tbh. Main issue is cred and endo

[brazen plank]

I have trouble making Mesa survive very well, anybody have mod tips? I can't recall what I have but it's really not great but also I have Mesa's Waltz aug bc I like walking

[midnight horizon]

Do you go to levelcap or just base sp levels

[fathom gyro]

I cheat with her. I run Shade Prime.

Invisible equals alive in my book

[midnight horizon]

Do you get out of invis if you shoot using 4

[fathom gyro]

Yeah, it's shooting unfortunately.

But it's a quick way to hide

[brazen plank]

I haven't been going through SP too much but anything too high level, like Kuva Fortress, Pluto, Eris, some Uranus and Neptune Missions (more the mission type than the level oftentimes), all that can give me struggles especially since i'm trying to make her a secondary build (as she's intended for) and I suck horribly at it. Part of it might honestly be my akmagnus build but otherwise I think its Mesa

[lavish orbit]

Helminth basically, Pillage, Omikuji, Evade, and more. Also arcane secondary fortifier since the exalted rework. Now you also have the arcane that steal enemies defence in descendia :)

[brazen plank]

I don't have helminth so any more short-term solutions lol

[late ice]

If inaros is weapon frame, should you throw away molt augmented for smth like arcane avenger?

[midnight horizon]

I asked the question because: shieldgating will solve all your survivability problems through all levels but some methods of shieldgating is rather spammy or bothersome to work around with. But if you don't go to levelcap I was actually gonna recommend health tank mesa with gloom (before you mentioned you don't have helminth)

[lavish orbit]

Arcane fortifier then, with rolling guard, you roll, you 4, steal overguard from eximus, then you are ok to survive even status

[late ice]

I meant bellicose replaced by avenger

[brazen plank]

Arcane fortifier? Alr, is that a frame or weapon arcane and how do I get it?

[midnight horizon]

It's a secondary arcane you can put in your regs

[brazen plank]

Alr and how do I get weapon arcane adapters? I only know how to get melee adapters

[lavish orbit]

Teshin

Steel essence

[midnight horizon]

You buy from teshin using steel essence

[brazen plank]

Oh thats not bad

[lavish orbit]

Iirc fortifier is dropped from 1999, it's been a while I did farm for it

[gaunt wasp]

What are the best amp arcanes?

[midnight horizon]

Honestly relying on fortifier for casual tanking + status immunity is fine but it's inconsistent cuz you pretty much need to target someone with overguard to steal the overguard

So it's not a good one off solution, you better pair it with something else

[lavish orbit]

If there is no eximus, you aren't in steelpath tho

[brazen plank]

What ability do you get for giving helminth kullervo

[lavish orbit]

Wrathful advance

[gaunt wasp]

Wrathful advance

[brazen plank]

Not bad ig

Hm, i'll have to think about this some more I suppose. Any recommendations for Nekros? I can't get the hang of his abilities (havent practiced in a while for the record) and I cant get him to mod well either

[lavish orbit]

He seems to know the subject

[solemn marten]

yall got any build recommendation for uriel + vinquibus?

[oblique depot]

Should I put a faction mod on this strun prime incarnon build? And if so, what mod should i swap?

this is the riven

[brittle sleet]

Fortifier comes from the Jade mote farm on Brutus, Uranus, for the record

[twin sail]

...by no means should this work in steelpath but here we are (I plan for more strength in that empty slot)

I hope you all know this is absolutely cursed

[dense arch]

I'd say drop cannonade, you're already getting weapon damage from your riven

[twin sail]

also, I already swapped narrow minded with vitality'

[dense arch]

This is VERY cursed lol

[twin sail]

IT WORKS FOR SOME REASON

cast gloom before getting on merulina, toggle your merulina for health drop and spike in a pinch

plus the invuln

idk if the healing is working, but she's survivable

[dense arch]

That strength is great for damage vuln.... If it can hit anything with that range lmfao

[twin sail]

what damage vuln lol

I still don't know what to have it on

sea snares vs aquablades

I'm thinking of switching it back over

[hollow mantle]

Silly little sniper

[dense arch]

Damage vulnerability increases the damage they will take, usually people like the sea snares for applying damage vulnerability

[twin sail]

no yea ik, I usually do too

[hard dove]

what gun is this

[twin sail]

but what should I put gloom over in this case?

[hollow mantle]

Vadarya Prime

[hard dove]

thx

[hollow mantle]

No prob

[twin sail]

rage yareli still has no business working lol

[dense arch]

A lot of people subsume the aquablades off first if I remember correctly

[gleaming brook]

any recommendations on changes or is this good for all content? i know theres unmaxxed mods im working on the endo now

[velvet pulsar]

The only build which allows DR on overguard

[median heron]

Why remove the invulnerability?

[dense arch]

Oh wow that's cool

[late ice]

What primary weapon suits inaros the most?

[velvet pulsar]

Coda Hema

[gleaming brook]

what the 2 ability?

[blissful knoll]

If you have the chance to roll I'd personally reroll for something like toxin cdmg multishot so you can keep cannonade and swap arcane for crux or smth, but yea rn it's probably just cannonade

[hard dove]

need augment for 4 to make sol gate do any meaningfull dmg

and use archon vit while youre at it

wait you would want range if using sol gate augment

[gleaming brook]

need to upgrade standing with kahl to 3 for archon mods

[dire flint]

Which frame would Arcane concentration work on?

[hard dove]

if the frame want molt efficeincy, chances are they can use concentration as well

[blissful knoll]

If you're not using 4 with augment, there's not much point keeping it. Also for health tanking you want adaptation + some way to gain flat armor like arcane guardian or melee fortitude or smth

2 is your main survivability tool

Cos it turns you invis

[hollow mantle]

Just got the Strun Prime to 208.6 Multishot w/ the arcane and galvanized hell, does this effect the Incarnon? I do not have it yet.

[blissful knoll]

Hold up why aren't you using elementals

[hollow mantle]

Don't need em.

[blissful knoll]

Wdym, that's free damage youre giving up

[hollow mantle]

This one shots everything I've ever fired it at

[blissful knoll]

You're removing a unique multiplier from the damage calc

[hollow mantle]

I also have like

[blissful knoll]

Even 1 elemental makes a big difference

[hollow mantle]

Nourish and a heat proccer

My secondaries are my main source of damage anyways, this is literally just a meme build to see how high I can get the multishot

[blissful knoll]

If you wanted to push multishot you'd run blast tox with primary blight or smth

[grim quartz]

Does anyone have any suggestions or can help me improve my acceltra build im just not doing enough damage i feel like for steel path and i dont know why

[blissful knoll]

Cos vigilante armaments give so little stats

[hollow mantle]

Unless my calculations are wrong Blight gives significantly less multishot

You're missing the point I fear

[blissful knoll]

Blight is 72% ms

[hollow mantle]

Vendetta is 180%

[dire flint]

I was using molt efficiency on my wisp

[blissful knoll]

Yea mb i forgot vendetta still gave ms

But my point stands

[dire flint]

I might try Arcane concentration

[grand basalt]

Does anyone know what I should be looking for with a harmony riven

[blissful knoll]

You're running so many base damage sources

You're losing damage by not swapping one with an element

[hollow mantle]

I don't really think it does, normally it would, but this build isn't a serious build

[buoyant plume]

what's a good riven for phenmor (except -crit)

[blissful knoll]

Sure, but you're running 3 base damage mods, and galv savvy doesn't even work with the aoe component of the incarnon

[hollow mantle]

I don't have the incarnon

[blissful knoll]

Only the direct hits get the damage

[hollow mantle]

I've had this gun sitting in my inventory for at least half a decade I just formad it yesterday unfortunately

[blissful knoll]

Still the same issue, 3 base damage mods which gets you so much diminishing returns

You swap 2 of them to elementals and suddenly you do like 2x damage

[dense arch]

If it works then great, if you wanna know what id change is drop armaments for toxin and vendetta for blight. Crit damage and Multishot to stack with both stats you're already going for

[hollow mantle]

But that's not the pointtt 😭

[blissful knoll]

I'm not saying swap the multishot off

I'm saying you can still stack multishot AND have elementals while not compromising

Cos you're triple slotting base damage

You could be running anything other than the 2nd and 3rd base damage mods

And you'll see a good improvement

Banes, firerate over cannonade, elementals

[crimson osprey]

So ash is pretty damn fun, but he has like no defenses if not invisible. Think a culpability may help a little with survivability? Did the descended tower thing and dropped immediately at one floor due to shenanigans out of my control

[hollow mantle]

If this were a serious build I'd probably slap the primed elemental mods on there but I'm not forma-ing it again it would mess with the other configs

[crimson osprey]

Or the healing kavat I meant

[fathom sky]

That's just because it doesn't do good damage, even if you did fix the build to do Viral Heat. Would get a better gun like any of the Kuva or Tenet stuff

[hollow mantle]

Blight is 72% Ms, Vendetta is 180%

[grim quartz]

Alright thank you

[dense arch]

Multishot isn't the only stat you have haha

[hollow mantle]

Yeah but it's the only stat I care about hahaha

[dense arch]

Then galvanized chamber might be something you'd like

[blissful knoll]

It's galv hell

[hollow mantle]

Shotgun

Hell is already on the gun

[dense arch]

Or yes that one

[hollow mantle]

😭

[dense arch]

The galv Multishot

[hollow mantle]

It's already slotted fam

I was just wondering if multishot effects the incarnon mode, I know zilch about the incarnon for this weapon. XP

[dense arch]

The incarnon benefits from elements lol

[hollow mantle]

Well that's not even remotely my question

[blissful knoll]

Yes it does work, and it's also a shame to not put strun on a good build cos it's one of the best incarnons

[hollow mantle]

I have two other good builds on the two other config slots :)

[dense arch]

You were asking if this was good for the incarnon mode?

[hollow mantle]

I just wanna mess with multishot a bit

[hollow mantle]

No I was asking if the 200+ multishot I had would effect the incarnon mode, that is all 😭

[blissful knoll]

Idk how you'd make a proper build on strun with so many D polarities tho

You'll have to give up one sooner or later

[dense arch]

What do you mean would it affect the incarnon mode

[hollow mantle]

Like, multiple projectiles

[blissful knoll]

Yes multishot affects the incarnon

[hollow mantle]

Thank you

[dense arch]

Yeah Multishot still is a stat in incarnon mode it doesn't turn off

[blissful knoll]

The incarnon turns it into a massive bomb with base multishot of 1

It's no longer a normal shotgun

[hollow mantle]

Mm.

[velvet pulsar]

It's no longer a shotgun

It's a launcher

[hollow mantle]

Splatoon Blaster vibes

[blissful knoll]

Also cos it's aoe, it doesn't properly work with galv savvy

[hollow mantle]

That's alright

This is just gonna sit in my collection after I'm done playing with it anyway I think

[blissful knoll]

That's a shame, the gun is one of the best

[hollow mantle]

It's very good

I'm just going through the rounds of making every weapon in the game at least okayish

I started this year with like 500 forma and now I'm running out of blueprints

[blissful knoll]

Even if it's gonna be benched i would still recommend putting a proper build on it just in case it shows up in Archimedea but whatever suits you

It's p ez mode when it shows up

[hollow mantle]

I remember setting my weapons to that auto build and then running that, cleared Archimedea no problem

[dense arch]

Sometimes you get lucky yeah, other times not so much

[hollow mantle]

Stug

[proper vapor]

For the 2nd evolution of Thalys, what’s best between more range and more attack speed?

[hollow mantle]

I don't touch those gamemodes much anyway, artificial difficulty and randomized load outs is the lamest shi ever.

[blissful knoll]

Well, whatever suits you

[hollow mantle]

Yeah

[blissful knoll]

It's free archon shards you're missing out on tho

[hollow mantle]

I have more than enough though

So it's like, what am I really gaining

[dense arch]

There's never enough archon shards

[blissful knoll]

Yea I'm always running out cos i want to make extra frames to build more build variants

[median heron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/780377679227650079/1449931733637136467/image.png?ex=69415a67&is=694008e7&hm=e16d7de00f9c3d2a7bb127cd805afa7e897bc28be66da8d91fb906a6f2709aab&

[hollow mantle]

I have all the arcanes I want, all the shards I need, all the little boosters I want, if I ever run out I just buy a 90-day booster.

Honestly if Descendia was infinite that would be my go-to regardless of rewards , it's so fun.

[dense arch]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-smirk-vegeta-phone-vegeta-browse-vegeta-smirk-phone-vegeta-smile-gif-17710417633712190616

[hollow mantle]

There was a dude who posted his stash to the reddit at some point and he had like 1000 azure shards

[blissful knoll]

Stela capped

[median heron]

1000 not possible, i did every kahl, archon, netracell, eda and eta since intro

[hollow mantle]

I saw it a few months ago I am exaggerating

[median heron]

There are probably people with more coz my rng is shit

Im just consistent

[hollow mantle]

I get burned out way too quick to do all of them every week

Respect

[median heron]

Thats the only time i play, on weekends

[blissful knoll]

It's like 1.5-2 hours a week, it's not that bad

To clear all the archon shard sources

[hollow mantle]

Yeah but a decade and a half of this game I fall asleep about 30 minutes in

[gaunt minnow]

Can I get some advice for these builds? Volt and Limbo Prime

[blissful knoll]

Sorry, i can't relate

[hollow mantle]

That's fine man

[gaunt minnow]

Its fine?

[hollow mantle]

Talking to mr gv

[blissful knoll]

Hold up, no static???

[hollow mantle]

Stasis

[velvet pulsar]

That's not fine.

[blissful knoll]

Yea stasis

[lavish orbit]

Ty, I shall give more credit to the wiki to dodge misinformation 😊

[hollow mantle]

Your limbo is on fraud watch with that bum frames subsume 😭🙏

[blissful knoll]

Nah silence is fine, it's no stasis that's fraudulent

[gaunt minnow]

Idk how else to make him good 😭

[hollow mantle]

Silence is fine

[gaunt minnow]

Ur saying i should replace banish instead of stasis?

[hollow mantle]

But putting a Banshee element on a Limbo has GOTTA lead to some Dharma

[gaunt minnow]

Dharma?

[blissful knoll]

Pick either banish or cataclysm as subsume slot

[hollow mantle]

Bad karma

[blissful knoll]

Depending on how good you are at managing banish

[midnight horizon]

I have a question, how exactly does Primary Overcharge work?

[gaunt minnow]

Why bad karma and i'll just choose banish

[blissful knoll]

Banish is probably a lot more stable if you know how to manage it, but cataclysm is better for instant payoff with aoe weapons

[gaunt minnow]

Or i'll use cataclysm since baniah comes in clutch sometimes

[blissful knoll]

Either is fine as rift entrance method

Just pick which one you like more

[gaunt minnow]

Fair

[near vortex]

get rid of cataclysm

[tawdry ocean]

How much does a "perfect" Riven for a trash weapon cost?

[hollow mantle]

Banshee and Limbo are objectively both either awful frames or terribly aged (both).

[blissful knoll]

Banshee is not awful, she has a complete enough kit

[hollow mantle]

(Not entirely this is me being an arse)

[gaunt minnow]

They both need a rework

[near vortex]

the only thing aged about Limbo is his VFX

[hollow mantle]

True

[blissful knoll]

Good cc, full strip, good damage buff

Don't see an issue with her

[hollow mantle]

Limbo rework, let him use stasis on the entire tileset pls DE thank you

[near vortex]

Limbo's kit is actually very complete and synergistic
It needs slight tweaks, mostly QoL like VFX updates and new ways for allies to enter the Rift

[hollow mantle]

Bring back his ability to freeze ally projectiles </3

[blissful knoll]

Yea limbo is also fine ngl

[near vortex]

He already does, provided enemy is in the rift

[hollow mantle]

Nah I'm talking infinite range rift or not

[near vortex]

which if enemy density is high enough you can put the whole map in stasis

[blissful knoll]

Stasis + rift torrent + banish/cata is very complete

[near vortex]

Rift already has an infinite range

[glass jewel]

I found that guy last night when attempting to search the internet for answers I watched that video and was impressed by the charge speed he was somehow able to get, but im still not sure on a few things I want an official wiki about

[hollow mantle]

Not what I mean--this was supposed to be a one off side comment man.

[blissful knoll]

You can already extend stasis to very long ranges if you abuse banish chains between packs

[near vortex]

it's hard to tell when people are talking about Limbo

[nova swift]

Yea the 30 second naramon strikes seems really good, fun excal gameplay to watch too

[hollow mantle]

My statement was like, Stasis should work in and out of rift on the entire mission with no restrictions, silly and not serious.

[near vortex]

Also Limbo has been eating well this update
Arcane Circumvent and Melee Careen are super handy for him

[dense arch]

Limbo also breaks all the infested nodes in Descendia to make that room not suck butt

[hollow mantle]

I would like if Nullifier bubbles were like a shield from his cataclysm instead of outright breaking it

Lukewarm take

[near vortex]

They don't break cataclysm

[dense arch]

They speed up the decay

[near vortex]

As of Vallis undermind

[hollow mantle]

Whaaat, that's awesome

Can he still pop a cataclysm bubble on an elevator console and stop people from interacting with it, I miss doing that.

[near vortex]

Although you can't damage the nulli bubble while it's in the Rift which kinda sucks

[near vortex]

Yeah

[hollow mantle]

Good good.

[blissful knoll]

Please don't grief pubs, it's not cool

[hollow mantle]

Be the reason Limbo is hated, be the change you want to see in Warframe.

God I haven't touched him since like War Within

[fathom gyro]

Limbo griefers ruin good runs

[near vortex]

You can't Rift consoles or usable objects for the most part, it's why you have to exit Cataclysm to shoot the hell scrubbers in 1999

[hollow mantle]

Evil 😭

I'd report a mfer instantly

Queues into Höllvania

[velvet pulsar]

Can use transference and destroy them with amp?

[fringe magnet]

Does anyone know where I would be able to ask people if my riven mods arw any good or not? Too new to know better lol

[wintry olive]

anyone can show me the railjack build and which weapon,engine and armor that good

[dire zenith]

Is there any weapon that can generate energy equal or better than the Grimoire?

[lavish orbit]

It's a unique trait of the grimoire so-

[prime fern]

is anyone using jat kittag with melee careen? it seems to work with vulcan blitz but the weapon is pretty sad without buffs and armor strip

[fiery gorge]

https://overframe.gg/build/809830/chroma-prime/chroma-prime-full-fuerza-buscando-posibles-mejoras/ Any comments or improvements?

[quiet laurel]

very anti synergistic build

shield gating but both survivability umbral mods?

[fiery gorge]

Arcane Persistence

[quiet laurel]

thats not in the build

[lethal aurora]

@lyric maple use this build

[random prawn]

I just got a 54% magnetic on Kuva Nukor again, should I sell it or fuse them both?

[forest stirrup]

What's a good build for sevregoth

[rough kelp]

Hey can anyone rate my builds

[queen parcel]

does anyone have a steel path build for sun and moon?

[coral notch]

does this look okay? should I fill the last spot with like something that has duration, better energy or more strength?

[steel storm]

Alternox Prime is still a wet sock but this build is somewhat SP viable

Maybe bring a gunbuff frame if you plan on using this

[brittle sleet]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Photon_Overcharge

[reef idol]

Is this a good build for my gyre prime?

[zealous rapids]

tbh i would put something else in place of equilibrium

if you manage to get 3 and 4 running you'll be getting energy for free already

[quiet laurel]

hard to sustain off of that depending on how much you spam

also you dont have any survivability

unless you go huras/shade route

[zealous rapids]

I use citrine subsume over 2 and health conversion, and have more than enough energy to sustain spamming 2 and sometimes 1

gyre is not really spell spam frame anyway, you run and gun

[quiet laurel]

1 + 2 spam (if you keep 2) for high dmg and continuous chaining between lighting

[woven wren]

do you guys have any gauss prime starter build

[spiral chasm]

fast delflection and r0 arcane aegis

then fill with whatever u feel like

[woven wren]

i mean not really a startee build but probably mr8 type of build

[spiral chasm]

yeah go crazy with it

if u want str put str

if u wanna put roar put it on 2

[rain saddle]

does this look fine?

[spiral chasm]

oh whatever u do dont press ur kinetic plating with those 2 things as setup

[spiral chasm]

ur missing str on ur eclipse with precision intensify

[rain saddle]

ill lose 60% if i use normal intensify

[spiral chasm]

precision intensify only works on ur 4th ability

eclipse does not benefit from it

[nova swift]

what kind of build are you trying to make?

[novel bear]

Looks like a nuke build

[rain saddle]

https://overframe.gg/build/234415/mirage-prime/disco-ball-of-death-prism-guard-nuke-mirage/ im using this as a base

[rain saddle]

awwwwwwwwww 🙁

[novel bear]

Is this for eso or are you planning on using it for higher levels?

[nova swift]

thats a wild build

[novel bear]

You don’t have much survivability

[rain saddle]

sub 300

[rain saddle]

i got 90% DR and im getting pillage soon

[novel bear]

Using eclipse for dr means not using it for damage

[rain saddle]

i always have my 1 to take aggro\

[novel bear]

That’s only somewhat effective by itself

There’s a reason ninjase’s build uses aegis

[rain saddle]

my brain is about to implode

[rain saddle]

i cant fit in equilibrium, do i take out intensify and add it then remove energize for aegis?

[lost rain]

Hi, any recommendations on which focus school to use with Koumei?

[fervent topaz]

Riven: Dual Toxocyst, Left or Right

[novel bear]

Yeah, that works

[orchid hedge]

Hey, question, how would you build Voruna with Coda Motovore?

[unkempt spire]

going to make a mutalist build thoughts on this riv?

[timid dust]

what can i do to improve my falcor build for sp cap

[novel bear]

Falcor works better without heavy attacks

Volatile rebound, blood rush, and weeping wounds

No gal reflex

[magic cargo]

i need some tips on what to change for better surviavbillity

[timid dust]

and replace what?

[novel bear]

Reflex, and killing blow or pressure

[novel bear]

Augur mods or brief respite and cast 1 when shields go down

[zealous rapids]

calayzing shield builds need augur mods or/and brief respite aura to restore shields from using abilities

[dire zenith]

Is Syam, Nikana Prime or Tenet Livia better? With no particular external buffs

[zealous rapids]

idk about livia, not have that yet, but syam prob better

[magic cargo]

yeah but in this build i dont really spam abilities

wich mod should i replace with augur mods tho?

[timid dust]

but its a throw build

[novel bear]

You throw it and let it bounce

[zealous rapids]

then you not understand the build, catalyzing shield survivability require you to cast ability on shield break to restore shield, and you must use brief respite and/or augur mods

[quiet laurel]

pretty sure just heavy spam is still ideal

[zealous rapids]

otherwise you should remove catalyzing shields and think about other ways to survive

[magic cargo]

i got it now

[magic cargo]

you got some suggestions tho?

[zealous rapids]

I use tri umbra on my umbra, so I just put arcane blessing and health conversion, I have citrine ability subsumed over javelin

[fervent parcel]

Healer taxon ik I could upgrade the mods but dispite that how is it

[zealous rapids]

you can actually surviva as excal with just spamming 1, since you're invulnerable while ability is active

[fervent parcel]

True but it also shortens reaction time

[zealous rapids]

it was for conversation above, but ok

[novel bear]

Why javelin instead of howl?

[zealous rapids]

taxon really help you with shield regen, but eventually you'll get something to boost your damage

[zealous rapids]

I use howl when I need crowdcontrol, javelin is just radial damage, I can deal more damage without it

I know about javelin augment, but my build is heavy spam exalted so I extremely rare get close to mobs to actually have any use of it

[atomic aurora]

Speaking of umbra, I'm going for a health tank with the new arcane. Feels pretty bad without arcane reaper which ill replace the fury for. Plan to put 3 violet crit dmg, one yellow casting, and one violet equilibrium. Does it seem good or way too focused on damage?

[polar yarrow]

I am still working to unlock all planets on the star chart - is it worth starting to farm mods for my frames ? eg. my valkyr prime

[fathom sky]

You should just be getting mods for everyone. A lot of key mods like Corrupted mods are used on pretty much every frame

[near vortex]

Reflex means you can heavy attack problems and not be at 0 combo

[near vortex]

Might be worth dropping Whirlwind down to r0 or r1

Discipline's Merit could go in the slot too

[quiet laurel]

the build looks good btw

[polar yarrow]

can I farm that early on ?

[quiet laurel]

tho I'd replace killing blow for either faction or power throw

[fathom sky]

Deimos missions (not Cambion Drift) have Corrupted Vaults you need to find

[near vortex]

this actually, yeah
Banes on Falcor are really strong and the damage is going to matter at cap

The faction damage double dips elec and triple dips influence so its def worth slotting

[polar yarrow]

Thank you and this can be done egven if I have NOT unlocked SP right ?

[timid dust]

So to sum it up, what do i replace with what?

[fathom sky]

If it was relevant I would have mentioned it. It's not related to SP

There's nothing from SP that I consider necessary

[near vortex]

Killing blow becomes a bane
VQR can become VR
Whirlwind you might want to try a lower ranked one and see what you like

[timid dust]

But doesnt killing blow help a lot?

[woven wren]

is xaku prime good to build for beginners? i currently have gauss prime and xaku prime at mr7, idk who should i build first as a beginner player

[timid dust]

isnt throwing basicaly falcor's heavy attack

[quiet laurel]

you have 2 mods for heavy attack wind up speed, thats pretty much enough

killing blow is base dmg just for heavy attacks

and yeah

actually that doesnt matter

[spare crypt]

Anyone try the new arcane primary bulwark?

[timid dust]

What shards do I throw on Xaku?

[polar yarrow]

Awesome thanks

[zealous rapids]

amazing thing if you use health conversion

[green solstice]

does the right one is good because I have a bigger dps output on the initial enemy?

[versed leaf]

personally nikana outperforms the syam for me by a good amount even with the same build but maybe the build favors the nikana a lil more over the syam but they are both really good

[quiet laurel]

using the same build for syam and nikana is probably the reason why you think nikana is better

syam has multi CO on the heavy attack waves so ez dmg

[lunar blade]

Gyre players?
Conductive Sphere:
Does it only work if I shoot from outside to inside the bubble and vice versa, or also from inside to inside?

[zealous rapids]

it works if projectile passes through sphere, so all your variants

[sinful bone]

is it possible to have viral and corro on the fulmin prime? I'm trying to get a source of armor strip but it's really difficult

[hexed sundial]

Use nourish

[zealous rapids]

with mods - no, but you can use nourish for viral

[latent latch]

what mods should i use on nataruk forstar chart?

[pale elbow]

Do you have Galvinized Mods?

[latent latch]

No

I don't even know how to get them unfortunately

[zenith kestrel]

Which of these is good

[pale elbow]

Under Alerts in Navigation, there's a mission type called Arbitration. They're kinda hard, starting at level 60, and usually endless in some way (Survival, Defense, etc). During these missions, enemies drop Vitus Essence, which is what you use at Arbiters of Hexis (a Syndicate group on relay) to buy Galvinized Mods.

Until you get those mods, you'll probably want to focus on the stats for damage (Serration and Heavy Caliber), Crit Chance (Crticial Delay or Point Strike), Crit Damage (Vital Sense), and Multishot (Split Chamber and Vigilante Armaments).

Also Shred is nice to have.

[zealous rapids]

please, don't use heavy caliber if you not absolutely sure that it is what you want

[pale elbow]

Heavy Caliber has almost no downside on Nataruk.

[zealous rapids]

serration is more than enough

it has huge downside - it takes up a mod slot that could be used for something better

fire rate mod for example

[velvet pulsar]

Best nikanas?

[quiet laurel]

syam

[zealous rapids]

prob syam, or nikana prime

dex nikana is fun too, you can have permanent x11 combo

[velvet pulsar]

Does Zaw nikana compete? If yes, what build?

[pale elbow]

Fire rate is specifically bad for Nataruk except for in small amounts (like Shred) because it makes the Perfect Shot timing harder.

[zealous rapids]

I use vigilante fervor

[pale elbow]

That's probably the highest you'd want to increase it, and that's with Critical Delay dragging it back down a smidge.

[velvet pulsar]

Light attack spam too?

[quiet laurel]

for light attack spam probs nikana prime

[velvet pulsar]

Hmmm

[velvet pulsar]

@quiet laurel and this?

I'll probably use one among syam or zaw because my planned loadout is gonna have limited range to cover maps.

[mighty flare]

Exodia contagion cookie cutter

[velvet pulsar]

Honestly, I'm rather thinking of exodia force

[prime fern]

anyone know how to optimize the damage on jat kittag? trying to make it work with vulcan blitz + melee careen

it feels so close to being decent while also being bummy

[median heron]

Use xatas and heavy slam

[plush oar]

Thoughts?

[velvet pulsar]

Frost

Also yes xata is going to be helpful

[prime fern]

do you think it's possible to drop xatas with a max careen? im not sure how to find the math side of acid shells / vulcan blitz

[velvet pulsar]

Apparently melee careen is like a faction bonus
Which means it not only double dips DoTs
It should double dip on xata extra hits of vulcan blitz

[prime fern]

but yes for a frost build haha

[velvet pulsar]

Another option is caliban but that's gonna be a bit difficult

[prime fern]

it does work really nice but getting the first kill to start the chain is really awkward

[kind matrix]

Can someone explain me how my build from **Pic.1 **is modded similar to Pic.2, yet I don't have the Radiation status?

[prime fern]

so idk if theres much that can be done on it or maybe a god riven will save it

[maiden atlas]

mod order

[kind matrix]

i thought so. Tried to reorder it, but can't seem to have both Corro and Rad status. what order should it be?

[maiden atlas]

oh. just looked at it. probably the innate kuva element messing with it.

[fierce lark]

you cant get corrorad

by mixing elements

[kind matrix]

ahh it has a diff built in statys. that makes more sense

[fierce lark]

they both take electricity, it can only go into one or the other

[prime fern]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1007134883728080917/1449895979628105728/4446B01.MP4?ex=6940905b&is=693f3edb&hm=96798f3bc77b7a86b2015c4f73e5b962a4797cf637504ca4d3aac2de4f561b16& gatekeep this knowledge to keep the disposition 5

[quiet laurel]

dispo doesnt get lowered anymore

[prime fern]

preserve this knowledge for day 1 kuva jat kittag*

[spare kiln]

Fragor prime does more damage without armor stripping…

[velvet pulsar]

Lavos: Passive gives 10s status immunity on energy or universal orb pickup
Should I use PSF or Rolling Guard?

[prime fern]

its not about damage its for vulcan blitz

[spare kiln]

It’s always about the damage.

[prime fern]

tho the damage needs to increase cz its abysmal on higher levels to proc

[maiden atlas]

anybody got a good primary build against hunhullus (sorry, i really don't know how to spell that lol)

[quiet laurel]

thats why you saryn with it

[fierce lark]

saryn vulcan blitz is just the melee version of saryn acid shells

[velvet pulsar]

Sometimes it's about the absurd range

The day we get a "electric damage with extra hit" buff for melees, that day Vulcan Blitz shall have limitless range

For now, it's mid

[spare kiln]

You’ve just described melee influence?

[velvet pulsar]

By all means
Go ahead and try influence on vulcan blitz right now.

Where's the facepalm emote...

I can't believe they replaced Lotus Facepalm emote with Ben Starr thumbs up!

Electric damage with extra hit means vulcan blitz will be then able to proc electric on explosions, which it can't do right now.
Once that happens, explosions will trigger influence, and then DE will hate nerf it.

[mystic marsh]

huh? (on a tauron strike)

also, how should I build tauron strikes?

[wild rune]

what are you yammering about

[velvet pulsar]

Ahh I searched it as "lotusfacepalm" when it was this

[wild rune]

I just used "palm" because my favorite face palm emote is just "palm"

[velvet pulsar]

Maybe my brain is finally showing consequences of being awake at 2 am in warframe discord

[wild rune]

[velvet pulsar]

I'm not even getting players in Asia servers anymore.
Time to go I guess.

[novel bear]

Is that not just blast vadarya pre nerf?

[velvet pulsar]

Requires ramp up
Electric vulcan blitz will be single slam FPS drop and entire map is erased

Only condition is: there should be two enemies under every 18m and the distance between the 2 enemies shouldn't be more than what vulcan blitz can cover.

High odds of satisfying this condition in SP

[timid dust]

What shards do i throw on xaku

[undone dust]

well thats definitely a build

[noble depot]

can I replace anything to make the burning hate activate faster?

[timid dust]

is it bad 😭

[undone dust]

well two of those mods extra benefits dont do anything, one of those arcanes is kind of buns, and despite what people tell you, you dont really need max range on xaku unless you just want map wide crate breaking

235% and 250% are the range sweet spots in my opinion

[timid dust]

oh... 😭

[undone dust]

the difference between 235% and 280% is either like 2-3 guns iirc, which genuinely isnt that much of a detriment

it just frees up mod slots for lazy survivability, extra strength if needed, etc

shards can really go anywhere, 2 casts is what id recommend at the least as that will lessen your duration loss on your other abilities from refreshing untime

i run 3 str and 2 cast, but you can run 2 cast 3 dur or a mix of dur and str depending on your subsume and if your build needs any of those stats

[timid dust]

so what mods do i remove?

[tired ginkgo]

is this riven any good?

[timid dust]

maybe use intestify over augur reach?

[undone dust]

switch archon cont for primed cont, archon flow for primed flow (unless you're using those two because theyre all you have), you can drop augur reach and replace it for extra strength, i.e umbral intensify or extra dur, i.e constitution/augur message

[timid dust]

ye im using archons because i dont have the primes version the overframe builds suggest 😭 Ig ill need more formas

[undone dust]

when i get home i can send a couple xaku builds because i have 2 xaku primes with basically full config slots on each

[exotic elbow]

is this decent for formaless shadow claws

[fringe void]

Dont know which to go for

[undone dust]

id go right since pure elec strun incarnon is kind of goated but left would be nice for viral so it's just up to your build

[fringe void]

Mostly run a corros + cold, so it's not that big a difference with the element xd

[tidal parrot]

i wana say right might be better cuz then you dont get reduced damage on corpus but as far as stats id say the left is slightly better for damage against stuff in general (that isnt corpus)

[exotic elbow]

aw man

[fringe void]

Aight, thx

[tranquil plover]

im guessing you want to build range and duration on uriel?

and throw in 2 strength arcanes

[mighty flare]

strength then range/duration

[tranquil plover]

regular intensify or precision

or umbral

[woven wren]

what do you guys enjoy better in gauss? platform weapon or sunder

[prime fern]

breaking the sound engine with fire rate

[tranquil plover]

okay, so you have a few options, you got gun go brrr, big aoe, or a min maxed mix

[runic bane]

anyone got a lavos arcane persistance build?

[tranquil plover]

i got all 3 since im a gauss main with over 500 hrs on him

[mighty flare]

umbral > reg > precision

[tawdry cargo]

uhhhhhhh

what did i do?

[dire zenith]

Your debt collector will be at your door soon

[tawdry cargo]

i dont care who they send,
im not paying my taxes!

[fresh surge]

you had a closed riven

it opened and happened to match a weapon

so it forced it in

[severe kettle]

Does anyone have a good sp build for the vinquibus?

[mighty flare]

bane flexible for whatever
arcane can be overcharge/deadhead/dexterity/whatever

[drowsy pelican]

On a scale of one to 10 how good is the space Draco (velox prime)?

[meager anchor]

are there any incarnons that benefit from added elements from abilities like uriels passive and cyte's resupply?

[drowsy pelican]

Braton to double up on heat damage I guess

[mighty flare]

cyte's resupply doesnt apply to incarnons
uriel does, and literally any incarnon will work

[meager anchor]

oh nice

but i couldve sworn i heard in a video recently that theres at least one that definitely benefits from stuff like those and oraxia's 4

[mighty flare]

iirc its a bit janky though, like applying uriel buff before swapping to incarnon or something like that

[meager anchor]

maybe im remembering incorrectly

[mighty flare]

it might be a bug? oraxia had similar thing and de patched it

[drowsy pelican]

Do vigorous swap and blade charger work on the new gun

[meager anchor]

it was sicarus, dera, and cestra apparently

let me go test if thats the case for dera in specific since thats the only one i have of the 3

nope doesnt seem like it works anymore

[fierce lark]

ive gotten uriels on burston, and i didn't intentionally do anything weird with it, just noticed the incarnon ammo have the heat icon

works on exalted guns too

sometimes

i spent the whole first day of perita playing temple, and lizzle would sometimes have uriel's fire infusion

lizzie would also sometimes have the void infusion you get from the grapple hooks

[meager anchor]

it... defintely works with burston but im not sure why (for uriel)

well if it works with any incarnon i guess that means i can do whatever

was just looking for any weapon that pairs well

[fierce lark]

is there anything that "pairs well" with a heat infusion?

heat is kinda just a primary damage element

[scenic bloom]

Does those dmg seem good for an acceltra ? Been using my build for a while and sometimes hit 600k red but only managed to catch the 300k red

[mighty flare]

yea

[fierce lark]

547 is the best general purpose amp right

[stray depot]

ok seriously guys does anyone have a good build to use on vinquibus preferablysomething leaning into its strengths in both modes

[fierce lark]

#builds-discussion message

scroll up a bit more for the melee version

pretty much bog standard viral heat rifle build & 12x melee influence build

[stray depot]

arigato

[runic bane]

Anyone know a good lavos persistence build?

[tame comet]

is there anything i can do early game to make Nataruk better? (im mr7)

(i dont have any crit damage rifle mods atm

Idk how i havent gotten any

[native elbow]

consider swapping continuous misery and piercing hit for some other mods. You probably have rifle aptitude mod at least

[tame comet]

these are the only rifle mods i have

[native elbow]

then I think you made the best choice so far 👍

[pearl pawn]

What's a good weapon loadout for quickly downing Hunhullus on steel path? So far all the radiation/cold weapons I've tried still seem to hit like a wet tissue. LR5 here so have access to basically everything but always seem to have a hard time picking the right tool for the job

[mighty flare]

do you have laetum?

[pearl pawn]

Yeah

[fierce lark]

is hunhullus considered sentient and not anarch?

i know he's basically a big teralyst but i never looked into it

[mighty flare]

run that then

[fierce lark]

max rank your hellfire asap, vital sense i would just buy off of a player for 5p, the farms for it are kinda long and not worth the time how for cheap it is imo

[pearl pawn]

Any particular build for it? I have it at max rank with all incarnon unlocked but not really sure of the combinations

[fierce lark]

i have rapid, lethal rearm, caput and overwhelming

if you're willing to play around it, i think outburst is technically better with vastilok or an IC stick

actually

if you're just using it for hunhullus

you could run ceramic dagger incarnon and do the mission with your primary, guaranteed 12x outburst laetum for last boss

shit now i wanna try that

[valid cargo]

I need help is this good?

[fierce lark]

pies firmes prime is sending me

[wild rune]

I think it's Corrosive Projection, PSF, Blind Rage, Equilibrium, PContinuity, PFlow, Archon Stretch, Umbral Intensify...

yea I'm lost on the bottom left and bottom right

[deep grotto]

what does gauss's speed scale off again? ability strength or sprint speed?
or both?

[wild rune]

sprint speed

[fierce lark]

just sprint speed iirc

[deep grotto]

thanks yall

[fierce lark]

bottom left is rolling guard, bottom right is cathode current

[wild rune]

I see
I haven't played Gyre in ages so I completely forgot about her augments

[fierce lark]

i have no input because ive never played gyre xd

[wild rune]

I played her for like a week when I first got her and then forgot about her

[lapis matrix]

I was wondering if I could get an opinion on this build

[mighty flare]

noncrit/stackless, evos are: fire rate, reload speed, -crit chance, +dmg% on noncrit
open slot for whatever

[valid cargo]

Last one is cathode current

[valid cargo]

Rolling guard

[fierce lark]

would drop aptitude and tox mod for magnetic & bane/vile accel

or more heat

[trim skiff]

I need help

There was a way with smeeta kavat to never die again right?

[novel bear]

Doesn’t sound like either of the smeeta precepts
Raksa kubrow and sentinels can restore shields
Vasca kavat and vulpaphylas give you a death gate

[karmic badger]

I mean, pack leader and a melee weapon is an option

[fierce lark]

mischief does make the smeeta invulnerable while it's active, maybe something to do with that + tek enhance?

[mossy juniper]

Tenet Glaxion better with "cold" or "magnetic"?

[karmic badger]

Now that's some advance gambling

[fierce lark]

magnetic

[mossy juniper]

got a build for one?

[fierce lark]

usual rifle stuff, if you dont like bane you can drop for aptitude

[atomic talon]

so is this like. a laughable bad build or do i just not understand how melee works

because this thing can not handle anything more then star chart

[fierce lark]

IPS (physical damage mods) are almost always terrible

so carnis is out

melee fortification is also doing nothing to help you kill things

[atomic talon]

Oh that's there for Inaros

[karmic badger]

You got no scaling

[fierce lark]

🤔

[atomic talon]

persistence

[fierce lark]

persistence isn't very helpful if you can't kill anything

[atomic talon]

😔

[fierce lark]

i wouldn't dedicate a melee arcane to survivability

[karmic badger]

Current meta for melee is melee influence and electric...

[atomic talon]

these are all i dang got

[stray depot]

how many formas would i need to pump in for that

[karmic badger]

Then you use the galvanized mods and the combo scaling mods to hit like 300% crit

[dusty socket]

Is there a maximum amount of armor you can have on a frame? I have Kullervo with three blue archon shards set to 225 but the game saying I only have 850 armor

[vernal oasis]

i need some help picking a riven do this cause theyre kinda good

[fierce lark]

im not sure, but it's an adversary weapon so you get extra MR for forma'ing it 5 times anyway

realistically you probably only need 2 for the build itself

[fierce lark]

second one, + puncture is awful

[stray depot]

right ok. i dont know what an adversary weapon is but ok

[fierce lark]

kuva/tenet/coda weapons

they gain 2 max levels per forma, up to level 40, and those extra levels also give you mastery xp

[stray depot]

Vinquibus is an advesary weapon?!

[karmic badger]

Nah

[fierce lark]

oh lmao sorry

[stray depot]

i was so confused like

[fierce lark]

i thought the person asking about the glaxion was replying

[karmic badger]

Its a standard weapon, you just have to be careful what polarities you put in because its shared between melee and rifle

[stray depot]

huh?!

[fierce lark]

i have no idea tbh

but yeah it shares polarities with the melee version so

[stray depot]

yeah i know

[fierce lark]

i have no idea tbh im still building mine

[stray depot]

rn it has 2

[karmic badger]

Funnily enough, i want to shove 2 more forma for the rifle, but the melee already has 11 points extra

[stray depot]

and i need an adapter too

i have the arcane bp just need formas which is why im asking

[karmic badger]

At least you only need 1 potato..

[vernal oasis]

is -status duration a good negative?

i just got this one with similar pluses

[stray depot]

i have this thing potatoed two formas with three madurai slots

one for primal and one for serration

although idk if serration is needed

[karmic badger]

Its a huge damage loss if you're using status effects

[fierce lark]

nah that's terrible, + ammo max is also probably a dead stat

[stray depot]

fuuuuuck i gotta do arbitrations

[pure idol]

What Sentinel/companion works best with Uriel?

[wild rune]

Status Duration is in a weird spot where +SD is pretty meaningless, but -SD is usually a riven killer

you just don't want to see it on your riven at all for the most part

[mighty flare]

no particular synergy, just general good: panzer vulpaphyla, hounds, nautilus, wyrm

[hearty nexus]

New arcane is pretty cool

[mossy juniper]

looking for a Tenet Glax build (magnetic)

[pliant minnow]

I saw a yt vid where this build was doing 8k base dmg heavy attack but mine is barely doing 1k and ik the arcane needs to be better but it shouldnt effect the base dmg bc this arcane is the same in the vid ( pls any tips lol)

[wild rune]

is sahasa kubrow still good with the invisibility on a caster Uriel or does it brick things?

I'm fairly certain abilities don't break invis at least

[mighty flare]

huras is invis? uriel doesnt really need invis and is partially wp cuz heat lash

[wild rune]

oh huras is invis lmao

I forgot which was which

[toxic cypress]

besides maxing mods how can i improve this?

its uriel btw

[versed inlet]

Does anyone have a good sp viable ember build? Or tips on what I should do while making my own

[undone dust]

sahasa is just a mini crappy dispensary

[old marsh]

General rule of thumb. If a weapon has multiplicative CO & not using additional dmg increase via arcanes then use serration. Otherwise don’t

[mossy juniper]

is bane of the orokin good? cause i see no point and i would rather use galvanized aptitude

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[mossy juniper]

well alot of glaxion builds use orokin

[mighty flare]

yeah, its like best bane to use

covers most missions cuz fissures so you can just slot and forget

[mossy juniper]

hmmm feels like i dont do more damage with it pluse i dont have prime

[old marsh]

It’s good for very high lvl fissures. But swapping in & out gets old. Even Murmur bane is better imo coz how bad certain loadout can be for u during certain weeks and maybe that extra double dip dmg helps u

[mighty flare]

hahaha no

[ornate echo]

best primary weapon for ivara's empowered quiver?

i want to use ivara in high level content and not troll

[latent jetty]

does shivering contagion only proc on cold stats caused by the primary, or does it proc to all types of cold effects?

[mighty flare]

dont need prime, even base is good, depends on ur build

[old marsh]

Do the opposite. Put it on companion u will love it

[mossy juniper]

wait contaigion in companion?

[old marsh]

Ye

[novel bear]

Sentinels use rifle mods

[cloud token]

Anyone have a beefy Chroma Prime build? Just looking to do Temporal Archimedea

[old marsh]

Need one as well. With the new arcanes I think his build might have changed

[mossy juniper]

i use hound

trying to build a nuke or dps hound

[old marsh]

That’s the downside. But if u put it on your rifle and your hound/abilities proc cold then it will also work

[mossy juniper]

what is the best companion?

i want to do so much damage

[fierce lark]

i see diriga, hounds and panzer recommended a lot in builds

i am a panzer loyalist for years

[old marsh]

There isn’t one everyone has its own use. But for pure dmg, mecha Hounds from Sisters of Parvos r great. Mod them correctly and they will do the nuking/priming for u

[mossy juniper]

i have one from parvos

[stray depot]

god im horrible at builds for guns

ok so for vinquibus im building it for crit and status or one of the two?

for the rifle

[wild rune]

even moas, because they can hack stuff for you

...that's really all they have for unique things

[mossy juniper]

this one i got from parvos

[wild rune]

it's always funny watching people shoot my moa's stasis field thinking it's a nullifier bubble though

[mighty flare]

https://overframe.gg/build/935951/vinquibus/vinquibus-viralheat-variations/

[sleek iron]

How much does this cost?

[mighty flare]

most weapons build for hybrid of both status & crits

[stray depot]

mf game wont drop me dead head keeps giving me merciless

ok so i need three more formas

[old marsh]

Good stuff. So what’s the issue? Maybe share your build and we can suggest

[mossy juniper]

i have none yet cause idk what to do haha

[old marsh]

use Auto Install. And then share

[stray depot]

i dont have prime cryo faaaaaaah

[fierce lark]

use 60/60 cold instead, it's not a huge deal

[mossy juniper]

i dont have alot of companion/hound mods

[old marsh]

Ok. U need Bond mods. https://overframe.gg/build/589412/bhaira-hound/uber-hound-prime-enemies-can-solo-steel-path-missions-steal-eximus-powers-one-pet-to-rule/

Focus on getting those. U will need them eventually in higher lvl steel path content

[wanton widget]

Which build is better?

[fluid crest]

Is acuity mod good for zymos ? Or i shouldnt i really dont know if the homing spore inherit the acuity effect

[near vortex]

CAN'T MOVE

CAN'T TYPE UNSTUCK

[mossy juniper]

i have no plat well ffs

[wanton widget]

build A or build B?

Build A has a significally higher damage output... nvm

[latent jetty]

thats funny, but does it proc to all types of cold status or just the primaries tho? I think im figuring something out

[old marsh]

Ye. if u put it on your rifle and your companion/abilities proc cold then it will also work.

[old marsh]

B. Always B. Acuity is too good if u can headshot targets. If u can’t then just use MS builds

[karmic badger]

I remember when acuity was multiplicative, that was fun

[mighty flare]

merciless works, and regular cyro rounds or the 6060 cold mod work

[mighty flare]

multishot is king

[orchid ivy]

knock knock! does nokko’s mushrooms count as summoned minions for arcane camisado?

if so, would it be beneficial putting it on him?

[fossil coral]

Do all three work on Loki subsume

[stray depot]

it just gave me dead head as i got this message lmao

[fossil coral]

No

[mighty flare]

deadhead is much better its okay, merciless works as substitute

[dire flint]

Do i need blind rage on Nova?

[wanton widget]

So I went with the Acuity build and gave it to Ivara... 20m headshot bullet hose... Yeah this is her secondary now lol

[mighty flare]

no

[dire flint]

I’m trying to figure out a decent build lol

[lost mica]

Blind rage on Nova would not be a bad idea 💡

[mighty flare]

for stats, nova just cares about getting her strength to ~150% then positive range/duration

[quiet laurel]

it in fact is a bad idea

[unkempt rivet]

How does one build for the felarx

[dire flint]

Hmm

[hard dove]

https://overframe.gg/build/328134/

[dire flint]

I decided to put on archon vitality to help with the Null star augment mod

Or at least to test if the heat proc will hit twice

[old marsh]

so Archon Vitality or Umbral set on Lavos. Assuming I am planning to use Persistence

[dire flint]

Isn’t persistence the health tank arcane?

[old marsh]

ye

[karmic holly]

Starting to get into Gyre and her signature. How should I mod the Alternox Prime? My brain thinks it should be Electricity/Viral with Galvanized aptitude and stuff, but I also think Heat/Corrosive would be a good option too

[novel bear]

She gets a lot of health or energy orbs, equilibrium is more than enough

[mighty flare]

electric/viral electric yes
corroheat no

[karmic holly]

Got it. I was thinking Galvanized CHamber/Aptitude, rime and malignant for the viral, then the standard Crit Delay, Vital Sense, Shred, Serration

[maiden oracle]

How's this look for a shoddy Broken War?

[fierce lark]

swap carnis mandible for smite/reach, and sac pressure for condition overload

if you aren't running nourish, swap elec for cold to make viral

[maiden oracle]

I usually run with a Panzer Vulp for Viral priming but I'll throw Carnis out for the Primed Reach I got from Baro then

I never saw that much for condition overload because I'm not at the point where I have high enough status chance to stack it, and the enemies usually die too fast anyways

[fierce lark]

if enemies are dying in 1-2 swings then pressure is fine

[maiden oracle]

👍

[fierce lark]

but it only takes 2 statuses total for CO to beat pressure

[maiden oracle]

Really? I didn't realize it was that strong

[fierce lark]

it’s 80% at max, per status

[maiden oracle]

O h.

[fierce lark]

sac pressure with the set is only 137%

[maiden oracle]

Jesus

I'll do that ASAP then, I knew CO was good and sought after but not that much so

[fierce lark]

even primed pressure point is 165%, CO breaks even at 2 statuses and by that point you tend to have frame buffs and companions applying all sorts of shit room wide

[karmic holly]

Or, and hear me out on this one, you have Pressure Point AND Condition Overload

[fierce lark]

lol

[maiden oracle]

Yeah so what do I throw out in that case

Molten?

[karmic holly]

Carnis

[maiden oracle]

[fierce lark]

id sooner slot primed reach over a 2nd base damage mod

[maiden oracle]

Sounds good then

[austere flower]

Which one should i take?

[maiden oracle]

True but for now the only use I really have for Reach is hitting floating targets

[fierce lark]

probably the right, but they both suck

[maiden oracle]

I'll test it out and see what works better when I can

[old marsh]

Left & keep rolling

[hard dove]

you dont need carnis mandible here

[fierce lark]

and the torxica has terrible riven dispo anyway, not worth rolling for

[fierce lark]

i thought the same thing too but even when you think you have a lot of range, more always feels nicer

innodem incarnon form has like 8.1m base range

[old marsh]

Specially for secondaries with low dispo,

[fierce lark]

(with primed reach)