builds-discussion

[weak venture]

fine then i got rid of despoil

[mighty flare]

actually

[hearty scarab]

UNLESS WE USE NOURISHHHH

[weak venture]

flow

[remote rapids]

f energy max

[hearty scarab]

NOURISHHHH

[mighty flare]

you couldnt even cast 4

[remote rapids]

all my homies hate energy max

[hearty scarab]

LOL

[remote rapids]

eff on top >

[mighty flare]

4 costs 155 with blind rage and his base max energy is 150

[hearty scarab]

[daring summit]

ive been VERY happy with my nekros. 2x violet shard for crit, 2x violet for equilibirium, 1x tau armor

[weak venture]

i have no idea what im doing with warframe modding

[hearty scarab]

🥀

[weak venture]

(as in the frames themselves, not the game)

[remote rapids]

mm pretty a hybrid weapons platform

[weak venture]

im kinda ok with weapons i think

[daring summit]

used with hate incarnon

[remote rapids]

radon over mag/speed?

also, fury over the 40%+combo mod?

you should slot galv reflex/ combo dur to stack blood rush

[weak venture]

ooh, might give that a try if i can get all the stuff (dont have adaptation or primed much of anything)

[daring summit]

when i put it together, rad had more type advantage, didnt have all the new galv mods.

[remote rapids]

adaptation is your best friend if you want to ehp tank, primed mods are overrated now that archon exists

[daring summit]

naramon school

[remote rapids]

(not that i dont use prime duration on everything mmao)

[weak venture]

does archon continutiy exist?

[remote rapids]

yes

very good on toxin sources

[remote rapids]

crazy on oraxia/nokko/larva subsume+augment

[weak venture]

guess i perhaps should try to do veilbraker (definatly not today, i also need to sleep, im in europe)

[remote rapids]

its a weekly rot so do it asap

[daring summit]

did you glad vice? 30+combo? cause you right, that is strictly better

[mighty flare]

whats the purpose of the build

[remote rapids]

i think theres the hate-exclusive augment too

[daring summit]

farming. i want that hema BP even though i have good coda one already

[remote rapids]

burning hate i think?

[daring summit]

yeah, but that doesnt help slash for despoil

[remote rapids]

ah

well ripkas is the king in that area

[daring summit]

but .... nekros.... flavor

[remote rapids]

real

i have an aquablades build too for fun that also gores

[daring summit]

cause i look dope

i just hate that incarnon mode removes the skin

[weak venture]

great, it's even more weakly content, not that dealing with all the factions wasnt enough

[remote rapids]

yeah but at least its only like 5/6 weeks then youre done

i only ever go back if i want to sell some archon mods lol

[weak venture]

i havent gotten any up to rank 5 yet and I've unlocked all of them now...

"fun"

stupid standing limit

[mellow nest]

You can also buy the archon mods for fairly cheap

[weak venture]

I'm generally broke

[mellow nest]

Much cheaper than Primed ones and they're only 1 mod capacity less efficient on a polarity slot

Well theyre still much more accessible even when broke, no reason to grab the Primed ones

Primed ones are luxury items. You can outright buy 3 forma for the plat youre saving on them

[weak venture]

The options were do it myself or buy them, I wasn't even consider primes here

[remote rapids]

if you need plat by top 2 suggestions are hive caches for shell shock or trade chat and filter for "wtb"

thats reliant on having the mods to sell though

[mellow nest]

You can also read these I made a while ago. One is on plat income and the other on finding trades. I personally dont use warframe.market to buy/sell:
#1417562011792969919 message

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[weak venture]

I don't quite have enough prime junk to start getting duipes, Im generally not interested to selling stuff I don't have dupes of yet, I guess more relics will fix that eventualy

[remote rapids]

the markets great! trade chat is horrible

[weak venture]

I can't access those channels you linked

[mellow nest]

Have you clicked on them?

[weak venture]

I know, used it a few times, went pretty well

[mellow nest]

Else I can post it here again

[weak venture]

No, they eoked

They said unknown, so I thought they were broken

[mellow nest]

I only do trade chat personally, unless the item is 5p or lower, for which I use warframe.market to buy

[remote rapids]

yeah i wouldnt buy from trade chat unless youre lowballing

sell on trade chat, buy from market

you can straight up do both if the sellers fast enough

[mellow nest]

Trade chat you can generate value by trading what people need rn for what they have. Plenty of people without plat that gladly trade their dupes for the things they actually want

[weak venture]

I just like to dump dupes on the market and be done with it

Just take buyers when they turn up

Or buy from any buyer who set the price a few plat too high

[mellow nest]

Thats a decent strategy aswell, doesnt really matter if youre efficient if you just sell enough

[remote rapids]

farm for gold pieces, buy bronze/silver

theyre usually only 5-10

oh sellers

[weak venture]

Pretty much what I've tried to do, arranging radshares is a bit of a psin

No buyers, I'm confused at this point

I got it mixed uip

[remote rapids]

well theres lots of other things to sell, rivens are the whales but prime sets are in demand

[weak venture]

Oops, ignore stupid corrections

Original is cporect

Rivens are a pain, proably why they sell for so much (and rare things like god rolls then to be over valued sometimes)

[remote rapids]

yes, in a way we want them overpriced so you can sell for more

you can get 35k kuva a week for cheap once you do the chains of harrow, so rolling rivens becomes a lot cheaper

theyre a pain but the pain is profitable, if you really want to get into rivens i suggest downloading alecaframe overlay for a scorecard

[weak venture]

It's getting the things to be rollable that's the pain here

[remote rapids]

the only thing that really sells is crit chance/crit dmg

[weak venture]

I got one that wanted a stealth exterminate dragon key

[remote rapids]

no matter how good or what type of weapon it is

yeah? thats not so bad with invis like octavia

most of them can be cheesed with octavia tbh

[weak venture]

I cyphered it

Guess I should get her

[remote rapids]

yes. hands down.

goodbye difficulty

best invis in the game

better dmg buff than chroma even

neck and neck with titania for quality of life/ease of use/raw clearing power

[weak venture]

Guess I should roll a few I have sitting around, might make a few hundred if I get lucky?

[remote rapids]

invest in them per-weapon

if you're going to sell only some weapons sell

honestly high dispo almost never sells

[weak venture]

Is a hek riven compatible with a kuva hek? Or is it garbage

[remote rapids]

so lower dispo (better/more popular weapon) better price but lower better stats

YES everybody love hek

[weak venture]

Unless incarnom weapon, but I'm keeping those

[remote rapids]

not so popular after it no longer 1shot archons but with the attentuation change maybe it will again

but hek is very loved

[weak venture]

I guess I might just try for a good roll or just keep it for personal use

[remote rapids]

shotguns are kinda insane end game

[weak venture]

But there's a lot of plat aviliable here so...

[remote rapids]

with semi cannonade and all the mods you can hit a few million at base (before crit lol)

[weak venture]

What

That's a lot

[remote rapids]

yeah hek especially bc of kuva heks alt fire

[weak venture]

I am definitely keeping this

[remote rapids]

good luck with the building :)

[weak venture]

*definatly

Aleacaframe rates this as good atm, but I could try for a better roll consider how good the hek is

What do you do with rivens for trash weapons

Not in game atm, so no pics

[remote rapids]

hek youre probably shooting for ms/dmg/elemental but alecaframe will almost always push you towards cc/cd

you either transmute 4 of em or keep it for hilarious stats

my kogake riven gives it negative crit chance

i prefer shit weapon rivens tbh because itll do shit like 400% status chance or just ridiculous numbers

(stug my beloved)

[fathom sky]

That only grades how good the stats are in the possible range that stat can be given its Disposition, not if the stats themselves are actually desirable.

CC CD MS with a harmness negative is often a safe bet

[remote rapids]

it does both but like i said it always puts cc/cd on top

great for market, not so for actually using them

and if youre actually shooting for cc/cd you typically dont want ms for accuity

[fathom sky]

Acuity is chopped as hell, just stick with MS

[remote rapids]

(unless youre selling ofc)

[weak venture]

The heks crit odds are not great (10% does not seem worth buffing for me, but I don't really know what I'm doing beyond basics)

[remote rapids]

honestly as someone who rarely uses bullets youre pobably right

yeah dont go for crit on hek

base dmg, ms, elemental for sure

even reload is pretty neat

[weak venture]

Oops, wronk hek, kuva gets 23%

Crit chance

[fathom sky]

It's because it's a shotgun and their CC is calculated differently. You still want CC in most cases anyway

[weak venture]

2.1x mult

Isn't it just X% for each projectile independently of all others, how else would this work, are the projectiles not independent?

(I don't know what I talking about)

[remote rapids]

shotgunsare special because of an old bug

[floral night]

serious question, is my build good for steelpath?

[remote rapids]

before, after you hit 100 every pellet would status/crit

but after the changes each pellet is rolled separate

[remote rapids]

AYO 🤣

you got this out the dumpster? /j

[weak venture]

isn't that literally where flawed mods are from

[remote rapids]

if they were all real yeah but maybe consider swapping savvy for cannonade

yeah it used to be the tutorial lol

until they stopped trying to force them

[weak venture]

Just found the dumpster at one point and had no idea what there were for

[remote rapids]

if you found it you should have iron wake unlocked?

[weak venture]

Yeah, I do

[remote rapids]

you can buy the 35k kuva a week

palladino sells it

thats at least 10 riven rolls right there (more for unrolled rivens)

[weak venture]

I guess I should do that, have touch rivens much at all, I think I did this weaker because nightweave told me to

So I grabbed the kuva too

[remote rapids]

yeah you can just stockpile a shotload and brute force a godroll

[weak venture]

I might try for one if I get a valuable riven that I don't want to keep, that hek riven might be worth a ton if I roll it, but I'm not selling it

[floral night]

it is good????

[weak venture]

(as in for a good weapon)

[remote rapids]

i mean the build is 90% there, personally i would drop the crit for more ms/elemental

[weak venture]

Did you eat all the ram from the mods xD

[floral night]

it was tasty

[remote rapids]

mmm deditated wam soup

[foggy patrol]

Use your better mods first bro

Don't just copy someone else until you max neccesary mods just use what you have best currently

[minor idol]

Can anyone give me a good build for any of these frames

[floral night]

okay this is my build xd

[foggy patrol]

Remove electricty

Radiation is the worst thing ever

Stand alone heat is a much better element giving partial armor strip and some damagd

Hold on

That is a fallout 4 mod

Yeah kick it out just put plain heat instead

[floral night]

atomic fallout its for more maggazine capacity

[foggy patrol]

All you get is a 1+ bud

[foggy patrol]

Game trying to quit itself before you put that mod

[floral night]

yeah after the patch my game bbroke lmao

[foggy patrol]

Try tinkering with your dlls or vpn apps if you have

[minor idol]

What’s a good frame to use?

[storm sable]

How good is coda sporothrix with oraxia?

[minor idol]

What’s a good frame to use?

[errant obsidian]

could someone sauce a good guandao prime build pls

[mellow nest]

Any of these, really depends on your preferences

Gyre Prime releases in 4 weeks

[foggy patrol]

Dear god

I was feeling special with such rare frame now every lobby gonna fill with gyre primes

[mellow nest]

Probably, yeah

[feral idol]

what stats should i be looking for in a nami solo riven?

[latent adder]

Range, attack speed, electric

[feral idol]

ty

[hexed sundial]

Optimal negative is -slash btw because higher chance to proc influence

[feral idol]

AIT

[sleek grove]

OK so I got this build for arbitrations a few days ago. I think it may have been to elec progen. Is it still relevant or ?

[weak venture]

does augar work on continuous energy drain? if that worked, you could be basically immortal with catylising shields

[hexed sundial]

It doesn’t unfortunately

It would trivialize shield gating

And discourage active play styles

If you want something similar, you can use fast deflection, vigilante vigor, catalyzing shields, and arcane aegis

[pseudo mauve]

hi any thoughts on my mesa build? my end goal for now is to upgrade narrow minded and slot in augur secrets for a bit more strength when i forma her

[foggy patrol]

Precision intensify is not that good as it seems most mesas usually subsume 1 and put a proper str mod like blind rage

Damn when did you even get hotshot

Efficiency is overrated

[pseudo mauve]

money

paid 700 lmao

now its twice less expensive

[foggy patrol]

Damn sucks for you that you literally bought a worse avenger

[ornate cosmos]

D A M N

[foggy patrol]

Do you have orange shards?

[pseudo mauve]

im not a big fan of avenger, i dont lose any health and i dont like that one aura that procs it

[ornate cosmos]

doesnt avenger proc on shield damage?

im 90% sure it does

[foggy patrol]

You lose all stacks if it runs out or somehow you miss. Avenger is a much better universal mod

Heres mine ultimate red crit build molt augmented+avenger/5 tau orange shards

[ornate cosmos]

ah damn
thought this was general
one sec

[pseudo mauve]

the good thing with hot shot is there are 2 scenarios in a mission: if enemies are weak enough i kill them before it stacks up, if not it stacks up pretty quickly, i always heard that avenger procs only on hp dmg and even if it procs on shield dmg i use adaptation + shatter + secondary fortifier for survivability so i have overguard

[foggy patrol]

Adaptation is a noob bait

Something either oneshots you or you take miniscule damage

No need for defence mods if you kill everything quick enough

[ornate cosmos]

adaptation is there so you can take minuscule damage

[foggy patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/those-who-mow-those-who-know-gif-6741124947321800836

[pseudo mauve]

r5 combat discipline damn

u rly believe in ur teammates

[foggy patrol]

Yea i'd rather take 5 more damage than use another forma

Discipline procs avenger

And notice how i have archon vitality

[pseudo mauve]

ik but seeing how most of my games go id proably off myself with it quicker than my allies would heal me

[ornate cosmos]

mesa's waltz 🛌

[foggy patrol]

Everything in my build is intertwined

[pseudo mauve]

its comfy

[foggy patrol]

I'd rather put that in than a fckass efficiency mod

[ornate cosmos]

range mod

[foggy patrol]

So true

I'd like to show you the guns aswell but this stupid mobile app doesn't let me to

Anyway you can guess it's your usual heat-viral crit hybrid

[pseudo mauve]

i run those guns, gotta swap gambit and cracker for primed ones when i get endo and creds

[foggy patrol]

And anemic agility because some how those 6 shooters are miniguns

[pseudo mauve]

galv shot + arcane velocity rly stack hot shot fast

[foggy patrol]

Buddy are you running heat corro

[pseudo mauve]

yes whats wrong with that

[foggy patrol]

Heat instantly strips 50% armor while corrosive gradually increase

[pseudo mauve]

and they stack dont they, add corrosive projection and i have lazy armor stripping plus viral priming from panzer/nourish when i get it

[foggy patrol]

Since the changes max armor is capped at 2000 way lower than old ones

Most people overestimate panzer too much

[mellow nest]

Its the other way around mostly

Heat strips over 6 seconds while corrosive is 20% instantly + 6% per stack

Capping at 50% at 6 seconds for Heat and 80% at 10 stacks for Corrosive

[foggy patrol]

Blud you just said what i said with longer words

[mellow nest]

The effective damage reduction of Heat is also not great

How is 6 seconds instantly while corrosive does apply faster with basically all weapons?

[mellow nest]

Its also capped at 2700 armor for max of 90% dmg reduction on enemies

Or is that on the Panzer only what youre on?

Thats mb then, didn't read further

[foggy patrol]

Just read this and quit yapping blud

https://tenor.com/view/read-gif-25879491

[mellow nest]

Uhh "blud", I corrected myself above. You were also wrong about the heat and corrosive "blud:

So Ig were even, so quit yapping "blud"

[foggy patrol]

That thing sucks heres an literal graph made by reddit nerds

Just quit moaning and do your research

I've posted this exact photo here like 100 times last year

[mellow nest]

I did, you apparently didn't

Don't see how you could get the armor strip so wrong then

I guess we all can make mistakes. Most important thing is not to try and make someone look dumb for it

Like, we had the same situation earlier, where you then went quiet and later on acted like nothing happened. Now youre on it again looking for trouble

[foggy patrol]

Heres another graph since you thought 50% heat strip isn't enough

There is an armor soft cap in game

[mellow nest]

Brother, Heat only strips like 27% dmg reduction off that

[deep grotto]

do we fw it
The damage drop bothers me a little, but i know that running PPP and CO simultaneously doesn't really help much
should I put another status or is this fine?

[mellow nest]

After 6 seconds

[foggy patrol]

Viral is what matters enemies have more max hp not armor

It's been like this like 3 years by now

[mellow nest]

You're trying to show me smth here but youre missing the point. I corrected it earlier and its all been said already. There is nothing being added by you to the topic we already discussed

[mighty flare]

are you heavy spamming? you would want galv reflex and more heavy wind up

[deep grotto]

no

[foggy patrol]

How is your write font look funny

[deep grotto]

whar

[mighty flare]

what is this build for then

[deep grotto]

All i do is melee and occasionally heavy slam to get to enemies faster

[latent adder]

Heat only takes 2s to strip to 50%

Not 6s

[foggy patrol]

Finally man himself came rescue these peasants from their ignorance

[latent adder]

Idk what the context is lol

Heat vs corro?

[pseudo mauve]

i made a build for mesa basing it on ur build on overframe asking for tips lmao

[mellow nest]

Ah I see, so it ticks every 0,5 s with an initial 15% and only the DoT is at 6 s, thats where I went wrong

[foggy patrol]

Vir+heat
Corro+heat

[mighty flare]

heavy slam would also want galv reflex (with seismic wave)

[deep grotto]

this was originally built off Zenosfire's Tonkatt build but i don't have melee influence so I took out focus energy
Then, since I don't heavy spam I was given the suggestion to take off amalgam org shatter

[latent adder]

Ah, in a vacuum with same mod bonuses,viral heat is better

[mellow nest]

Ignorance? Well you didn't look it up either so

[latent adder]

But if u put nourish , primed convulsion etc, corro heat is better

[foggy patrol]

He only has panzer nowhere enough to prime them all

In mesa

[latent adder]

Yeah generally id run corro heat nourish on pistols

And corro heat if low status or fire rate

[pseudo mauve]

i looked up ur nourished gunslinger and wanted to trade some of the range that i dont feel like i need for duration (i dont have nourish yet im working on it)

[latent adder]

Viral heat if decent status or fire rate no nourish

[deep grotto]

there's not exactly a point using the amalgam version since heavy slams don't have the windup speed issue

[pseudo mauve]

its not finished ofc

[foggy patrol]

Me too viral is a must if you don't have nourish you gotta mod it

[latent adder]

Sure

U can add vitality too for tanking

If u prefer

[foggy patrol]

Duration is for efficiency of the 4th

I literally run 40% efficiency on all frames

[pseudo mauve]

this too but i just got annoyed by having to turn off 4th constantly to reapply all the other abilities

[foggy patrol]

Duration makes it less painfull

[pseudo mauve]

for now adaptation shatter and overguard from regulators work for me but i havent taken her to any high levels

[foggy patrol]

@latent adder do you think this is still cool or outdated (molt augment/avenger) 5 tau oranges

[pseudo mauve]

i was thinking of adding augur secrets just to add that bit of strength but if i start having problems surviving i might swap it for archon vitality

[foggy patrol]

Just use blind rage

Augur mods are for nonces

[pseudo mauve]

thats also an idea i just dunno if i will be able to mantain energy with it

i guess if i keep my streamline on then maybee

[latent adder]

Corro projection + Arcane velocity + hotshot would be better now

[foggy patrol]

Mind you it has roar subsume not nourish

[pseudo mauve]

i may have forgor, whats projection?

[foggy patrol]

But i'll probably won't change it i've spent way too much time for her

Pump up your gyre builds

[pseudo mauve]

ah nvm it was that aura

[foggy patrol]

Thing you had it installed

[pseudo mauve]

yeah all that talk of corrosive status made me forget the aura

[foggy patrol]

Like i said drop corro in your gun for viral

Heat+aura is more than enough

And you can use equlibrium mod for energy manegement

[pseudo mauve]

well u have a point but remember im on my way to farm grendel and change roar to nourish

that way id have heat, corro and viral

also id have to reforma my guns and i dont have a lot of them

[foggy patrol]

Mesa is a good new player friendly frame cuz all you need is one proper modded exalted gun

Buy forma with plats i do it all the time

[mellow nest]

You can run some relics publicly for a good chance of forma or double forma blueprint

[minor idol]

Can some tell me a good frame to use

[pseudo mauve]

blueprints are not the issue, just the time it takes to craft, and i dont want to spend too much plat on them

[pseudo mauve]

if ur starting then i would highly recommend gauss prime, cheap to get, easy to build, absolutely tears through the star chart and holds his own in steel path

[minor idol]

@pseudo mauve these my frames

[pseudo mauve]

well i dont have much experience an all frames to compare but i can assure that gauss mesa xaku and protea are all bangers

the main thing about warframe is the most important aspect of choosing a frame is how fun their gameplay is to you

because you can do all near all content with every frame, some combinations will just need more skill or buildwork

[minor idol]

U got good builds for those frames?

@pseudo mauve mesa xaku protea

[pseudo mauve]

i have something for each but none of them near being finished, the closest one is mesa and as you can see on this channel opinions or my choices are clearly divided

[foggy patrol]

You are not divided at all

[pseudo mauve]

on*

[foggy patrol]

Ninjase is the goat of warframe builds tons of stuff in the website

[foggy patrol]

May great pestilence fall upon you

[pseudo mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[minor idol]

I need prime continuity and mesa walls

[undone dust]

https://overframe.gg/build/915121/
respect the hustle chat

[dusk kite]

Is my Laetum build trash?

[carmine dew]

secondary dexterity?

[midnight horizon]

Is bro unironically using melee and secondary together

I only ever use dexterity when maining melee and only melee

[near vortex]

I see nothing wrong with Dexterity

Unranked Primed Heated Charge though

[undone dust]

yeah at that point just use base

[near vortex]

They have the capacity, just haven't leveled it

Can't imagine why, it's one of the best pistol mods because heat is a great damage type

[stark bobcat]

What could I put in that last slot?

I tried cold and serration but I feel like there's a better option

[mighty pelican]

hunter munitions could let you get some decent slash procs i think

otherwise amalgam serration for the run speed buff

[stark bobcat]

This is with amalgam serration

[clear crest]

Yall think i should put koumei subsume or roar over her 1?

[old marsh]

Roar

Koumei subsume is goated but not needed on Nyx

[clear crest]

Aight bet

[old marsh]

Assuming u r using Assimilate

Then u can even put roar on her 2 or 3. Whichever u feel is less used

[clear crest]

I am i just feel like putting it on her 1 cause i dont even use it rarely and when i do i forget abt it

[old marsh]

Also is that mobile or Switch?

[stark bobcat]

I'm jealous he's on mobile

[clear crest]

mobile cause not on my pc rn

[stark bobcat]

I want mobile so bad

[old marsh]

Ye. It’s a popular subsume coz the AI isn’t that good. But u can get funny numbers

[clear crest]

True that

[old marsh]

The enemy is designed to kill 1 Tenno. Meanwhile we r designed to kill millions. Probably good in assassination missions

[clear crest]

Ykw i just thought of

I can just do both cause i do have other build slots

[old marsh]

I personally never tried that. Coz when we subsume any ability on 1 build, it’s locked. Unless we remove it. And we can’t configure same subsume over different abilities at the same time

Which sucks

[clear crest]

That does suck

tbh i feel like making a dumb build and using wrathful advance on her

nyx just red critting with syam

200% crit chance for primary secondary cuz of her passive and melee

sound like a w to me

[tough fable]

any tips? Braton is incarnon btw

[violet silo]

what mods would one put on a tenet glax? my current one is blast elec and it feels lacking

[old marsh]

That passive I always hated. It made her anti-melee frame.

[clear crest]

General use?

[clear crest]

Fr but thats why kullevero was made

All 3 now have red crits

[old marsh]

Kullervo was made to be FOOD for our Helminth

[clear crest]

ong

[tough fable]

Currently yeah.

I just use it for everything

[clear crest]

Especially for gyre + conductive sphere + syam such a w combo

[clear crest]

Okay then i say your pretty good on the build i say instead of rifle aptitude do rifle elementalist

since ur gonna fs get a status either way just do that

[tough fable]

Yeah I planned on swapping it to that lol

[clear crest]

Is your epitaph just a primer or u using it to kill as well?

[tough fable]

Just need essence lol

[tough fable]

Mainly primer but I'll also use it to kill sometimes

[clear crest]

Ah okay cuz if its primer you dont need hornet strike or gal shot

[analog garnet]

Anyone have any Broberon build they've been enjoying?

[clear crest]

i use him with no mods

Its peak trust

But a build i dont have rn

[tough fable]

Yeah I just don't know what to replace them with rn

[clear crest]

Try to get magnetic, viral, radiation and cold

Thats how i do it atleast

On my kompressa i have that and corrosive on the build

but i have a riven to get corrosive on it

[tough fable]

I've heard rad is cheeks

[clear crest]

it is but it depends

Rad is only hella good when it comes to eidolon hunting

but it can be good in other cases cause it has a chance to confuse enemies

And they will attack eachother

[tough fable]

Fair but would corrosive or heat just not be better for general use?

[clear crest]

It would be but in general use u will never really prime enemies thats only a case in like level cap situations or if ur frame relies on priming

or even disruptions ofc

gotta love one shotting demos

[tough fable]

Just nod and smile lol

I'm currently vibing with Caliban Prime

[clear crest]

Ahhh nice

Tbh you dont even need weapons just a summoner build fr

One of the frames that can just level cap with only abilites

[tough fable]

Wanna see my build so far for him?

[clear crest]

sure

[tough fable]

ok give sec

[clear crest]

Also if im not wrong i think arcane impetus is the one that helps buff your summons

Try to get that r5

[wary vigil]

That's Camisado, impetus is the ine that gives eff and strength for every unique element status with abilities

[clear crest]

Ah okay

i forgot which one it was

I look at both of them alot when i gamble arcanes

[tough fable]

Just swapped Saxum Thorax for Fast Deflection. I'll prolly end up changing it back later

[tough fable]

#gamba

[clear crest]

Alright something simple

[tough fable]

i'm broke :P

[clear crest]

Dw i used to be broke

Just grind relics and rivens

[tough fable]

yo i fr forgot power drift was there

[clear crest]

if u get a decent one u can sell it for a good amount of plat

[tough fable]

https://tenor.com/view/insane-insanity-jim-carey-gif-13068014

[tough fable]

apparently i have 2 rivens for okay weapons

[eager ridge]

how much plat would this coast

i am woundering really

[wintry lotus]

These rivens aren't worth anything aren't they?

[charred gale]

ax might be worth a little bit but yeah both arent good

[wintry lotus]

How much do u think ax could go for approximately?

[charred gale]

mayube like 20p

[wintry lotus]

Ok thanks

[drifting hare]

What's the current best chroma build for survivability?

[severe bough]

U dont really need anything for either shields or health his 1 gives u alreadya shield gate

[severe bough]

Either u subsume smth like pillage or go for shield regen

Or normal brespite/augur mod cata shield gating

[signal panther]

I'm more just curious, how bad is my build? I've never really given the mods much thought before but i wanted to throw this mess out there.

[drifting hare]

Idk what mids to use for that

Mods*

[hexed sundial]

Fast deflection, vigilante vigor, catalyzing shields, arcane aegis

When you’re modding something, there’s a search bar below the stat window and you can just search up “shield recharge” or “recharge” and the mods pop up

You can also search up “viral” and mods that give toxin and cold will appear, same for all elements

It’s pretty useful

[severe bough]

U can search anything and see what u got

[drifting hare]

Ohh okay thanks alot

[eager ridge]

is alecaframe right about this riven

i think it is maybe 1000 plat

[mighty pelican]

good roll, but not sure if its that high of a price, usually the highest selling ones are 3 pos 1 neg

[quiet laurel]

never

100-200 I'd say

eh negative

[mighty pelican]

id check similar rolls or overall prices of the weapons riven on the market site

[eager ridge]

what web site

[mighty pelican]

https://warframe.market/auctions/

not official by DE, but like, everyone uses it for trading, ingame trading chat is mostly trying to scam you while you get the lowest prices on the site

[eager ridge]

What makes their ones so expensive

i have an higher damage and crit chance

[quiet laurel]

3rd roll but I'd also check for how long these have been up

[mighty pelican]

their own opinion + can be old listings

[quiet laurel]

If they have been up for a long time then no one wants to buy those rolls for these prices

[eager ridge]

how do i check how long it has been there

[eager ridge]

k

so how do i price my rivens

[mighty pelican]

each weapon has a riven disposition stat, the stat applies a modifier to riven stats, making already good weapons have weaker riven buffs while weak weapons have amplified rivens

this combined with things like if it has an incarnon or if its generally often used weapon makes it also worth more due to demand

as for rolling, you have to check the weapon's base stats to get a feeling what the weapon is going for. high base crit chance means u should go for even more crit chance and dmg ect.

your riven's weapon isnt in demand however if you do manage to find someone looking for one, depending on the person id say you can get at least like 80 to 200p, depends on the person ig

you have to factor in that the more niche the weapon, the longer it can take to find a person

[eager ridge]

how do i know if an weapon is in demand

i just recently go into the warframe market

i have no idea what is in or not in demand

@mighty pelican but does it show you the demand for the riven on warframe market

[mighty pelican]

not really, if most/all auctions for it have been created a long time ago it would imply nobody is buying them though

[eager ridge]

thanks

[mighty pelican]

if its a recently added one or has an incarnon upgrade you can unlock later it will have demand and sell well even without rolls

[astral tinsel]

ehh

Depends on your definition of "well"

I guess you might get 20p instead of 5 for most good weapons

Only a handful are strong and popular enough to push the prices higher

[mighty pelican]

if it has an incarnon and ok dispo it should most be 50+ worth

ofc theres stuff like torid or occucor where you can easily get a 300+ sell for

but those are like some of the most generic "meta" weapons atm so demand is high

yknow what if you dont find a buyer ill buy it from you, weapon has some nice base stats and i happen to own it but not using it besides mastery

[winter halo]

So does anybody have ash build advice?

[sudden lotus]

Hey, I can't seem to find if ability strength or melee critical damage is a better archon shard on Valkyr. Anyone knows?

[drifting hare]

What's a good build for vectis prime?

[torpid mulch]

@sudden lotus I Play her with melee crit DMG and It's insane

[marble moat]

Is this godly for shield gating?

[sudden lotus]

I bet, but ability strength also increase DMG, so I was wondering, number wise, which option is better, as Overframe doesn't calculate archon shards

[mellow nest]

Idk what godly means for you, but yeah it will sustain you

Its basically overkill

[marble moat]

Mainly just is this as tanky as I can get bro

[torpid mulch]

@sudden lotus Figure it out in the simulacrum

[wind cosmos]

maybe a brief respite aura mod too

[mellow nest]

Haha yeah

Doesnt do anything for your gate tho

[marble moat]

How so

[mellow nest]

You're already hard locking your gate to 1,33 s with Catalyzing Shields

[marble moat]

Huh

So

[mellow nest]

Idk have you read what it does?

Its possible you misunderstood the effect

[marble moat]

Yes

Thought like it was an extra 1.33 seconds OF invisibility

[wind cosmos]

wait what mod are u talking about

[mellow nest]

It sets your gate length to 1,33 s. Thats the equivalent of 450 shields restored before the gate triggers

[mellow nest]

Brief Respite

[wind cosmos]

why would brief respite not help

just bc of the a hield recharge speed?

[mellow nest]

It doesnt help the shield gate

It does help a little in general

Because the shield gate length is already set to 1,33 s, so any more shield restored than 1 shield will not do any more for it

In the current version of Catalyzing Shields anyways

[wind cosmos]

oh right i forgot cat shields is glitched

[mellow nest]

Yee

[marble moat]

So like I sould take it off then

?

[mellow nest]

No, its good

The point was that you dont need to restore more than 1 shield to get its benefit, so any Augur mod is enough

[marble moat]

So I Indeed truly went overkill

Especially with 300% duration for kinetic plating

[mellow nest]

Duration is great for Redline, it scales with it

You want that anyways

But you dont need all this shield restoration

[marble moat]

See i rarely use redline

My Burston incarnon is just speedy like that

[mellow nest]

Well youve already got the setup and duration, so why not just cast it every 1,5 minutes

[versed harbor]

u should have redline perma active cuz otherwise theres no point selecting gauss tbh

[grave cloak]

replacing thermal sunder with aquablades is certainly a build on gauss tbh

[eager ridge]

People, what is the demand for Riven mods for Tenet Grigori

and also how do i know what element to us

[drifting hare]

What are some mods that add to strength that I can add to rhino

[hard dove]

Intensify
Umbral intensify
Blind rage
Transient fortidude (maybe don't use this one tho)
Augur secrets
Power drift

[olive relic]

which should i keep?

[drifting hare]

I have all of them, any other mods that bosts strength?

My build gives me about 380% strength when I am invisible

[hard dove]

Precision intensify
No reason to use this one tho
And archon intensify
Just intensify with more cost for Rhino

[hard dove]

Evade Rhino?

[drifting hare]

?

[olive relic]

any thoughts yall?

[drifting hare]

No I am using shade to make my self invisible then using the 3rd ability from revenant

[hard dove]

Invisibility part
Just huras/shade? Or using Cyte subsume

[drifting hare]

Also the roar buff

[drifting hare]

Just shade

Wait is there a pet that can turn me invisible?

Other than shade?

[midnight horizon]

Huras

[drifting hare]

Is that an animal?

[eager ridge]

people how di i know what element will fit an weapon

[olive relic]

which should i keep?

[hard dove]

Kubrow

[drifting hare]

Huh, I might take it bec I'm farming the 1999 mission

[eager ridge]

people i have no idea what element i will get for Tenet Grigori

[hard dove]

Isn't that the scyte?

[eager ridge]

or whitch one to pice how do i know what element is good for it

yeah that one

[hard dove]

Probably elec

[eager ridge]

how do I know which element to get

[olive relic]

i get it yall just don't know which one to pick so yall just ignored, its alright tho. I wont judge

[eager ridge]

@olive relic what is the base states

[drifting hare]

What is a good build for nikana?

[eager ridge]

pick this one because free damage

and crit chance is pretty low

and the reload speed will makeup for the low capacity

[eager ridge]

and how do i know witch element to uses

[spring sigil]

Left or right?

[drifting hare]

What is a good build for nikana?

[eager ridge]

whats the states

[drifting hare]

Stats?

[eager ridge]

like this are the sats

for example, I misspelled it

[drifting hare]

Oh, uhh just a normal nikana prime?

[eager ridge]

yeah the one you have show me it sats

[drifting hare]

1 sec

[eager ridge]

or you could go to over frame and find the most populat build

popular

[drifting hare]

Oh alr thanks

[grave cloak]

standard influence slop probably

[drifting hare]

Alr

[grave cloak]

standard influence slop will probably be something like this

[drifting hare]

How much dmg does that do?

[grave cloak]

enough

[drifting hare]

Alr

Btw do you have a build for vectis?

[grave cloak]

what's that

lemme see

[drifting hare]

Ight

[grave cloak]

oh it's a sniper

[drifting hare]

Ye

[grave cloak]

I don't unfortunately, snipers aren't my type of weapon

[drifting hare]

Ah

[deep grotto]

Would that build change much for a Dragon Nikana?
I mean i also don’t have Influence and probably never will

[drifting hare]

Thanks for the nikana tho

[deep grotto]

To be fair you were literally just told to use Electricity

[mellow nest]

Which doesnt answer their question

They want to know how they can tell which to use (by themselves)

My interpretation on it anyways

[deep grotto]

I feel like that’s sort of a trial and error thing?? Idk

[foggy patrol]

I love influence SLOP

[grave cloak]

what, you mean you want... build variety? in warframe?

silly you there's no such thing as build variety

[mellow nest]

Get em outta here

[foggy patrol]

Luv me dual vicciss

Gas+blast+electric in one weapon

[midnight horizon]

Gas blast elec mag rad

If you're influencing 3 elements might as well go crazy with the rest

[foggy patrol]

They don't do anything lil bro

Only dot elements matter

[half frost]

should i reroll?

[foggy patrol]

Get to mr14 first atleast before you tinker with rivens

[midnight horizon]

Having fun is all that matters

[bold pike]

def

[half frost]

alr

[west granite]

I hit a 227 mil red crit with my valkyr build ik that's not a whole lot for a red crit but that's the most DMG I've done in warframe ever

I was using lvl 115 steel path brood mother eximus's for it

[midnight horizon]

200M will definitely oneshot levelcap units so you're good

[west granite]

I hope

Lol

I can confidently say I feel ready for steel path

[mellow nest]

I think the max HP you can encounter is 30 million?

[midnight horizon]

It's around 61M ninjase said

[mellow nest]

With max armor at 90% dmg reduction you will still need to do much more ofc (assuming no viral)

[midnight horizon]

Steel path enemies already have capped armor

[mellow nest]

Depends on the enemy

[midnight horizon]

I tested it. I hit a base sp grineer with elec dot (influence) it dealt 600k, then I fully stripped them and it went up to 6M so it definitely was capped armor

It was on earth, literally just a trooper

[west granite]

I use dirga and other stuff to push my crit really high and condition overload

[mellow nest]

Heat only strips 27% of their dmg reduction though, so dont know about those numbers

Oh you changed it

Yeah at full strip that makes sense

[midnight horizon]

Yeah it was elec now that im remembering correctly

Cuz like I main influence 99% of the time

[west granite]

I hit 4 6 or 8M on sp corrupt heavy gunner eximus's

[mellow nest]

I havent gotten around to do it yet but I want to look into how usable Tharros Lethality is on most frames

For +100% crit dmg and full armor strip

[west granite]

With red crits

[west granite]

Does the sub actually still fully strip?

[mellow nest]

Im not sure about the exact numbers of Tharros Strike, gotta look that up

[west granite]

Im in RN I can check the sub ability

[mellow nest]

Seems to be 200% or 164% with Corrosive Projection I think

But yeah sub has no reduction according to the wiki

[west granite]

It says it's a 50% def reduction

[mellow nest]

Yeah base its 50%, but is it capped when subsumed?

[west granite]

Not sure the sub tells me it's 50% but it also doesn't say in the description of the sub ability anything about a nerf on the sub version so I think the wiki is right

[mellow nest]

Thanks for checking

[woeful venture]

any low rank secondary weapon that works like epitaph ?

[mellow nest]

Nukor / Atomos. Dont explode but tag as many enemies

Nukor has an Upgrade in the Kuva Nukor, Atomos has an Incarnon Adapter

[woeful venture]

alr ty

[storm sable]

What counts as good dmg for a kuva sobek? I mean the base dmg like the dmg its listed by on market

[eager ridge]

i am talking about weapons in general if they don't have an starting element like how do i know witch to pick for exaple skanna it has no element for starting so what do i pick for it heat,toxin,cold,blast ect

[mellow nest]

Generally speaking thats dependent on the faction youre fighting and whether or not you can apply viral with another weapon, companion or ability, as Viral is the most important status effect for most factions
_

Elemental Combinations
Try to understand the elements, read their descriptions and look at the factions you're engaging. They are resistant and vulnerable to different elements.
The best choice will also depend on your weapons and gear.

Status effects:

• Blast - additional explosion

• Corrosive - up to 80% armor shred

• Gas - creates AoE damage clouds

• Magnetic - increases damage to Shield / Overguard and detonates it

• Radiation - enemies attack each other

• Viral - increases damage to Health (this is mandatory for high lvl, you want some source, be it Nourish subsume, Companion or directly on your weapon)

• Cold - slow/stun, increases critical damage

• Electricity - stun, chain damage

• Heat - up to 50% armor shred, DoT

• Toxin - bypasses Shields, DoT

Factions:

• Grineer (have Armor, no Shield) - Viral / Corrosive / Heat / Viral + Heat / Corrosive + Heat
• Corpus (no Armor, high Shield) - Toxin / Magnetic / Magnetic + Toxin
• Infested (no Armor, no Shield) - Viral / Heat / Viral + Heat / Magnetic + Heat
• Deimos Infested (have Armor, no Shield, resistant to Viral, immune to Viral proc) - Blast / Gas / Magnetic + Heat / Magnetic + Gas
• Orokin (Corrupted) (have Armor, rarely Shield) - Viral / Corrosive / Viral + Heat
• Murmur (have Armor, no Shield) - Viral /Corrosive / Radiation / Viral + Heat

I made this a while ago, hope it helps @eager ridge

[trim forge]

To build on this, many builds tend to focus on either Viral/Heat or Corrosive/Heat, as a general purpose set of damage/status types

[mellow nest]

Valkhyron helped iirc!

[trim forge]

I think it was a different one, but thanks for giving credit 😆

[eager ridge]

so they viral/heat or corrosive is an for evryone

[trim forge]

not exactly for everyone per se, it's going to perform beetter on some enemies than others, but it's a straightforward set of damages that should be able to get you through most situations

basically the idea is that armour strip is only good against enemies with armour, and stuff like magnetic is only really good when shields are involved. But Viral? Every enemy has health. The heat just provides an easier source of armour strip to deal with armour a little bit in the meantime

[eager ridge]

i am asking this because i am woundering what progenitor i should use for my tentnt grigori

i want it to be my main weapons and to uses on all my missions

[trim forge]

so the progenitors that are recommended for the Tenet Grigori, according to the little spreadsheet I got from someone, is Electric, followed by Toxin

that said, I wouldn't worry especially hard about progenitor damage types, as you will eventually be able to get an item called an Elemental Vice, which you can apply to any rank 40 adversary weapon to permanently unlock the ability to change its progenitor damage type

[glacial verge]

Is this a good build for saryn?

[eager ridge]

but why electric toxin i get it is the best statice effect but why electricity

[gaunt wasp]

Wonder what I can do with a 60% valence bonus Dual Torxica

[trim forge]

It's likely to do with using the valence bonus in combination with mods to make other damage types

[glacial verge]

Is it

[eager ridge]

so i create corossion

[eager ridge]

thanks

[sleek grove]

Yo why is terrify used instead of fire blast? I have both but I think fire blast covers more enemies

[latent adder]

fireblast is line of sight and cant full strip in a single cast

[sleek grove]

OK so I go with terrify? But didn't the armor changes make it so that you don't need to full strip enemies

[latent adder]

yeah but terrify is still non line of sight

depends on usecase btw

i generally wouldnt use either unless its equinox

use terrify on equinox

[sleek grove]

It's a equinox nuke build

[latent adder]

lol then yes 100% terrify

[sleek grove]

Incredible

Thanks btw

[latent adder]

pillage is another good option but thats also line of sight limited

[trim forge]

Can anybody clarify what happens with CO effects like Galvanized Shot when I get more stacks past the max number? Because I know examples will probably make the question easier:

Let's say I have Galvanized Shot on a pistol, and I get 3 stacks up, that are 3/3/2 status effects respectively, so 120/120/80%. First question: Does it actually work that way? Does it track each individual instance by the number of statuses, or does it simply track the highest, which would make this 120/120/120%? If it does track separately, what happens if I now get a fresh stack for 4 statuses? Does the oldest one leave, and I now have 3/2/4, 120/80/160%, or does it replace the lowest one, in which case it would be 3/3/4, 120/120/160%?

Sorry if I've made this really confusing 😅

[storm sable]

What counts as good dmg for a kuva sobek? I mean the base dmg like the dmg its listed by on market

[trim forge]

you mean what progenitor bonus value?

[storm sable]

Honestly i dont even know... on warframe market the lich weapons are listed by dmg but idk what that dmg is exactly ngl

[trim forge]

Like the 37 in this example?

[tough fable]

Yeah but I'm using them anyway because I'm gonna forget to use his 1 or smthin

[storm sable]

Yes

[trim forge]

So that's the progenitor bonus of the weapon, and is a % bonus damage to the corresponding damage type (in that picture's case, cold). It can range from 25-60%. If you're just looking for gameplay purposes, I hear it's not hugely important, but if you're looking at buying/selling, there's 2 particularly important thresholds: 53% and 48%. That's because if you fuse two of the same adversary weapon together, it will multiply the higher of these values by 1.1 for the resulting weapon. 53% is what you need to hit 58% (technically it's 52.8% but that's not something you can see until you claim the weapon for yourself anyway, so it's not really beneficial to this discussion), and that's important since 58%+ automatically gets rounded up to 60%, so 53% means you only need to fuse it once to get the max value. Similarly, 48% guarantees a max weapon in 2 fusions

[sleek grove]

OK so this is a Equinox nuke build. I used Kyaii's video as a template. I'm gonna forma it and then run equilibrium for energy sustain. Would it work?

Any improvements?

[storm sable]

So the number (in that pciture 37) is the % of ur dmg that converts into the weapons element or the number is a bonus so like +37% of the base weapon's dmg but its also a special element (in that case cold)

[trim forge]

It works kinda like your elemental mods, it looks at the total base damage of the weapon, and then, in this case, adds 37% of that total base damage to the weapon in the form of cold damage

[storm sable]

I see. And how important is this in most builds? In a oraxia toxin explosion build in my case. Also whats ephemera? I heard its like a cosmetic aura thingy but idk how true is that

[trim forge]

It can be useful, but I don't think you need to get the number up especially high, unless you're really looking for it to effect the weights of your status chance (the individual chance per damage type to be inflicted as a status). It's never bad to try to get the value higher, but it's something you then have to work towards and not everyone wants to.

Ephemeras are a cosmetic yeah, they apply like an aura or visual effect to the warframe. Liches have a 20% chance to have one, and the type corresponds to the progenitor bonus, so by carefully choosing which warframe you spawn your lich with, you can try to get a specific ephemera - this will also effect the damage type that you get on the weapon, but you can get an item called an elemental vice later in the game that you can use to modify the damage type, so I wouldn;t worry too hard about it

[storm sable]

Do u know what would be the best for oraxia? Im guessing toxin but not 100% bc oraxia isnt in the wiki im checking

[mellow nest]

Check the actual warframe wiki, not Fandom. Its discontinued since the start of the yeat

[trim forge]

So progenitor bonuses only apply to adversary weapons, for example Lich weapons, AKA Kuva weapons. If you mean what would work best with oraxia, I don't think it super matters, since the toxin from her 4 doesn't combine with mods and is an additional, separate hit from what I'm reading, I think (feel free to correct me if anyone here knows better), so I'd mostly be looking at what would work best for the weapon I am hoping to use

also yeah, Antares is very much correct

[eager ridge]

how is the build

[hard dove]

are you low mr or something why are you asking about incomplete build

[eager ridge]

yeah

i have am slowly learning how to make builds

[trim forge]

I'd probably cut ammo drum, since Thornbak has plenty of ammo, if you've got Thermite Rounds, that would work for what you're doing here

[mellow nest]

Youre doing well, one step at a time

[eager ridge]

what is the best stat for this weapon becaus it's seem nutural

[mellow nest]

Its a good idea to put some points into serration over time, as its the best damage source for your rifles in the early game. Another is the standard 90% elemental mods.
One thing to know is that elemental mods like +90% Electricity will add 90% of your damage again as Electricity, while mods like +120% slash will only add +120% of the SLASH damage you already have on top, making them much worse for most weapons

Viral for more damage vs health or if you have another source of viral then corrosive or heat, if you only have 1 slot available for it. You can also do smth like Viral + Heat

[eager ridge]

i am sorry but i have no idea what your saying

[trim forge]

it's also worth noting that Elementalist mainly applies to damage from status effects, which with your current build, is only the slash damage

[mellow nest]

Mods that add damage work differently from another, some work on the base damage of your weapons, others only on specific parts of the base damage.
Base damage is the damage your weapon deals before doing anything with it. Typically its divided into a part puncture, a part impact and a part slash damage

[trim forge]

So what Antares is saying is let's say we have a choice between a mod that adds 90% slash, and a mod that adds 90% cold:

the 90% slash would only work off of the base slash damage of the weapon, so with what you have, it would add 15.93 slash damage, 90% of the slash damage already there.
The 90% cold would add based on the total base damage of the weapon, so would add 47.79 cold damage, since that's 90% of the weapon's base damage when modified by serration

[eager ridge]

so your saying that the base damage is divided into 3 other sub-damages basically

[trim forge]

yeah

[brittle sleet]

Usually

[trim forge]

the physical damage mods, impact, slash, and puncture, care about the damage that already exists of that type on the weapon, the elemental damage types don't

[eager ridge]

arne't they satice effects

[hard dove]

both

theres the elemental dmg and the elemental status effect

[eager ridge]

so the base damage which is divided into 3 sub damages, has a chance to cause a satice effect which scales with static chance and damage

[trim forge]

so your status chance is the total chance you have to cause a status effect. Which status you cause depends on what damage types are on the weapon, and how much

[hard dove]

in the case of thornback yes
there's also status weight but thats probably a headache for another day

[trim forge]

that said, this might be a bit complicated for you at this stage

[eager ridge]

so witch is the best one

[fervent rapids]

no single answer

[hard dove]

dmg type?

[eager ridge]

because Thornkbak has equal damage statistics

[trim forge]

it's hard to go wrong with viral, which is cold+toxin, but corrosive is also good, and then throwing heat on with either of those is rarely a bad idea

[fervent rapids]

many status effects are good, and in terms of damage types, different enemy factions have different resistances/weaknesses

[eager ridge]

i was told just mod the biggest number

but there all equal

[trim forge]

So you typically won't worry too much about adding damage of those types, because they don't scale as well with the damage overall. Instead look at the elemental mods

so cold,heat,toxin,electricity

[fervent rapids]

you generally don't really want to mod for the physical damage types specifically, since mods that boost them work from just that specific damage type (compared to something like a Heat mod, which would add Heat damage based on that 28 total base damage)

[eager ridge]

so when there equal that measn i shouldn't care about those three

[fervent rapids]

you don't really want to mod for them regardless

[trim forge]

as a general rule, you won't really care about those 3, with a few very limited exceptions

[eager ridge]

k

[trim forge]

mod the biggest number is good, but that applies more to build for crit vs status

[fervent rapids]

+15% slash is gonna be 15% more of just the weapon's Slash damage, while +15% Heat is going to be 15% of the weapon's total base damage added as Heat

[eager ridge]

so i should spec into status

[fervent rapids]

for Thornbak yeah

since its crit chance is too low to really be worth investing into

[eager ridge]

can statuse have an crit

[fervent rapids]

not all status effects deal damage

[hard dove]

no but crit that does status is stronger

[fervent rapids]

keep in mind that Damage Types and Status Effects are different things

[eager ridge]

k

but for elements do i just pick the one i like

[fervent rapids]

if you hover over Puncture for example, it should explain what Puncture damage's status effect does

[hard dove]

depends on the gun
thornback have high status so you should mod for viral heat or viral elec or corrosive blast

[trim forge]

for where you are now, you can pretty much do that, later on, you'll want to start looking at how particular damage types can synergise with your weapon, or even your build overall

[fervent rapids]

different enemy factions have different resistances/weaknesses, so modding for those can be a good plan. You can see a faction's resistances/weaknesses when selecting a mission

[eager ridge]

k

[fervent rapids]

imo. this early-on it's more worth it to focus on the different damage types rather than the various status effects

[eager ridge]

thank you guys

[fervent rapids]

both for simplicity's sake and just in terms of effectiveness

[woeful venture]

how do i get badge on the rest ?

[trim forge]

honestly, depending on how far in you are, you can probably just get away with having these mods on the weapon, I don't think I particularly worried about damage types until quite a bit later in the game

[trim forge]

You're likely missing Saya's Vision on earth, you can access that from Cetus. IIRC regarding Venus and Deimos, you need to finish a certain story quest in order to unlock some additional areas

[woeful venture]

oo i see

[trim forge]

For Saya's Vision, there's a shrine on like a cliff face just to your right as your load up in Cetus, you should be able to do the mission from there, and then it will show up on the star chart too. That's also how you farm for Koumei!

[gray quarry]

Complete all missions on every planet

[sleek grove]

Guys how do I build Khora for looting?

[fathom sky]

Accumulating Whipclaw, Pilfering Strangledome and as much range and duration as you can cram into it

[brittle sleet]

Building Melee Vortex for her Whipclaw can help too

[sleek grove]

What's that?

[novel bear]

Melee arcane you get from sanctum anatomica
Pulls enemies when you kill an enemy that has magnetic status

[sleek grove]

So I'd have to build magnetic. I'm not good with Khora builds so anyone have one they can share?

How is this? Is strength needed on her or?

[novel bear]

Strength is good for whipclaw, but accumulating whipclaw is functionally a 300% strength bonus just for it
Otherwise, strength isn’t necessary

[sleek grove]

OK thanks

[novel bear]

Also, you don’t need to build magnetic on whipclaw if you use a primer like epitaph

[severe bough]

Melee influence is also a good choice and focus on as much range as possible some duration and both augments

[storm sable]

What is a companion imprint? (I saw it on warframe market (the website). Is it like a weapon blueprint ?

[novel bear]

Not for looting

[sleek grove]

I'll be back later for a whipclaw build. I've tried copying builds from videos but I just deal rock level dmg

[severe bough]

Swap natrow minded for p cont power drift for cata shields

[sleek grove]

Swap narrow minded for what?

[severe bough]

What does vortex do better in terms of looting?

[novel bear]

Pulls enemies into strangledome

[severe bough]

[deep grotto]

Melee influence………..

[severe bough]

Primed continuity

[sleek grove]

I don't have that yet so...

[severe bough]

Normal one also does the job

[sleek grove]

Also I took out a mod for primed flow

[severe bough]

Ik....

[sleek grove]

Swapped. Actually looks better now. Thanks

[mellow nest]

Melee Exposure is also extremely good for a rank 0 arcane

Probably the best Rank 0 arcane in the game

And it can be yours for 2p or less

[velvet pulsar]

Enervate

Aegis

[novel bear]

Fortifier

[mellow nest]

Theyre good but they dont provide their full effect at Rank 0, should have specified it better

[velvet pulsar]

Well... Aegis doesn't require full effect

Arguably, neither fortifier

[sleek grove]

OK so this is the whipclaw build for Khora. The dmg is really bad. What am I doing wrong? I got this build from a video

I don't think I copied it right tho

[grave cloak]

take out blind rage, it's not really helping you there

put stretch or primed continuity in there (I'd put stretch tbh but up to you)

[mellow nest]

Swap Streamline or Whipclaw with Primed Flow for a little more capacity

Or rather less consumed capacity

Even better augur reach

Didnt see that there

[sleek grove]

OK so I took out blind rage and swapped flow. What next?

[thin yacht]

Seems to be really good against single targets, if that's more your thing than crowd control for saryn

[glacial verge]

Do u guys have any builds for saryn? Like huge damage builds

[novel bear]

Whipclaw doesn’t get much benefit from primed reach, iirc, since it has a high range that’s buffed by ability range

[glacial verge]

Idk why but mine only makes 1k-1,500

[sleek grove]

So what do I swap reach for?

[novel bear]

Uh
Keep reach on for now, take off prowess, and put condition overload over pressure point

[thin yacht]

That would depend on what you want to go for your Saryn because it all comes down to preference

[sleek grove]

OK so I have one open slot now

I feel even you guys don't know what to do here.

Is this really that bad?

[versed harbor]

you just gotta max rank your melee influence and maintain combo and itll do okay

[sleek grove]

So should I pit a combo mod on the open slot?

[versed harbor]

co over presure point, galv elementalist over regular if you can grab it, replace melee prowess with a faction mod if you can

[versed harbor]

duration can come from that, dexterity arcanes, or naramon focus ye

dex arcanes are rly easy and comfy

[sleek grove]

Thanks

I'll try it out. Hope it does better

[versed harbor]

ye combo is most important anywho since its an influence build and weeping wounds will give 440% status at max combo

khora whipclaw isnt as strong as it used to be though and you might get better dmg from regular melees

[sleek grove]

I have bad regular melee. Mainly cause they don't have any catalysts

[versed harbor]

ye thats fair

[sleek grove]

Plus I wanna play this so. I should get better mods

[versed harbor]

good thing is, this melee influence setup is basically the same for every combo weapon (regular melees aswell as some exalteds) so you already have the foundation for the future

[midnight horizon]

I'm influencing it, I'm influencing itttt

[grave cloak]

straight up influencing it, and by it, I mean

[sleek grove]

OK so I'll postpone Khora till I can build her. Dmg still sucked

Sorry for hogging the chat yall. Last build I need help with for now. Promise. I'm having survivability problems in steel path. Any ideas? The build also have 2 strength archon shards and 3 for shields

[lavish sinew]

How do you achieve damage, do you use base damage mods? SP arcanes? if you use SP arcanes, which one and how you mantain them?

[versed harbor]

if ur having survivability issues its either a killing problem or an energy problem here

or a killing problem due to an energy problem lul

[grave cloak]

omamori subsume on mirage is a lifesaver

[sleek grove]

Energy is fine dmg is pretty amazing but somehow

[grave cloak]

also. get catalyzing shields. that single mod will delete the need for your shields from shards(ew)

not exactly sure why you put narrow minded and augur reach there as well

[mellow nest]

Youre using an Augur mod but not Catalyzing Shields, meaning your shield gate is only 0,33 s long, which is the time you have to cast another ability or go down soon after

[versed harbor]

it depends if this is using eclipse for damage reduction or not ig

[grave cloak]

eclipse for dr is

[versed harbor]

if you use dmg eclipse then swap adaptation for catalyzing shields and run a gate setup

[mellow nest]

Yeah you should absolutely be using eclipse for that if you arent already

[sleek grove]

Yeah but shield gate wasn't the main focus here. I was hoping to shield tank thus adaptation

[grave cloak]

base 185 armor is not gonna let 1k shields stay up for more than 1s in steel path

[old marsh]

@robust steppe for future reference. replace mods based on need and availability.

[grave cloak]

don't shield tank on mirage

[sleek grove]

Always dmg

[grave cloak]

bad idea

[midnight horizon]

Don't mirage want to gate anyway with omamori

[grave cloak]

here, use this instead

[robust steppe]

I'll keep that in mind, you've been very helpful ty ty

[mellow nest]

Shield Tanking would require you to have a way of actually getting it up again. Its actually fairly decent in combination with Eclipse, since shields have innate 50% dmg reduction which works together with Eclipse and any other reduction like adaption

[sleek grove]

I narrow is for duration, Reducing casting requirements

[versed harbor]

ye try a catalyzing shields setup, adaptation for catalyzing, swap boreals and augur reach for hall of malevolence + total eclipse, add brief respite over corro proj

[mellow nest]

But since you cant restore the shield without a subsume like Pillage or Condemn, you wont be able to tank with it

[grave cloak]

yes but don't use it together with augur reach

[old marsh]

i would like Excal Prime as compensation. thank u in advance. also throw in Frost and Mag Heirloom in there too

[grave cloak]

you either just accept the dumped range or don't use narrow minded

[midnight horizon]

I'd straight up just go passive gating with omamori catshields aegis fast deflect

[sleek grove]

OK then. I'll change the build then. Thanks

[mellow nest]

No, you can also use a half ranked Narrow Minded

[grave cloak]

I'm not gonna get another narrow minded just to half rank it tbf

[mellow nest]

Its smth most people dont think about, but a R5-7 Narrow Minded is very useful to have for builds

[old marsh]

always carry multiple corrupted mods. u never know

[mellow nest]

Its 10p so

[versed harbor]

and then if you still have issues you could opt for an omamori or a shield regen build, or try slot rolling guard somewhere

[grave cloak]

too expensive for me 😔

[mellow nest]

Then just trade any augmentation mod for it, those are free once your syndicate is ranked up

Or bond mods etc, altough they are worth 20p

[versed harbor]

ive never used a mid ranked narrow minded ngl

[old marsh]

rev's augment sells like hot cakes

[mellow nest]

Its actually really good, since Stretch compensates it almost completely

[versed harbor]

diff levels of blind range or transient can be handy since you dont always need to go over a strength breakpoint

[midnight horizon]

Speaking of. Can she play explosive melee like glaives and zaws

[versed harbor]

so ur slotting this aswell as primed continuity? what frame or setup have you ran this with just curious

[robust steppe]

I would give you mine if I could, I don't use him lol
And gotchu

Not prime, but umbra

Idk, I see ppl calling the umbra his prime

[grave cloak]

the prime that requires an augment to disable his wonky transference...

[versed harbor]

nah

[mellow nest]

Yeah pretty much. I have been using it for a long time now on Protea. You can read about it here if you want
#builds-discussion message

[grave cloak]

base excal > umbral excal unfortunately

which kinda sucks if you roll excal in duviri since umbra takes priority

[old marsh]

umbra has better drip tho

[robust steppe]

Whoopsie, dropped my phone 💀

[foggy patrol]

Noobs couldn't get enough of it

[midnight horizon]

I heard mirage's doppelgangers don't trigger glaive explosion

But what about zaw contagions

[upbeat eagle]

anyone have a good epitath primer build for general use steel path ?

[dense knot]

Question:

Is Magnetic + Toxin much better against Corpus than Viral + Electric?

Specifically for SP and more end game content

[fathom sky]

Just in general you want to use Toxin over anything else on Corpus. Magnetic would only be for enemies with Overguard

[near vortex]

blast tox and pure tox are both good

If you viral prime with Tox you actually just commit genocide

[dense knot]

I see, Viral is still good on Corpus despite their smaller Health Pools and Shielding. Basically use Toxin to bypass shields and take advantage of Viral's amplifier.

[near vortex]

Yeah

[dense knot]

But you'd need a primer for this setup OR Nourish/a progenitor Element to be able to access that combo on one weapon.

[dense knot]

Why is Blast preferred over Magnetic?

[near vortex]

Trash clear

[dense knot]

Why is Magnetic preferred only for Overguard enemies? Doesn't Magnetic act as Viral for both Shields and OG with guaranteed Electric proc when broken?

[near vortex]

I always just do Furis for Eximus units so I never think about them too much

[dense knot]

Ah raw damage AoE

[near vortex]

Furis Incarnon my beloved

[thorn kiln]

is nami solo incarnon or okina prime incarnon better for volt wrathful advance build, or other melee?

[deep grotto]

Because Overguard tends to be more of a problem compared to just shields

[mellow nest]

If you already have toxin then thats whats gonna kill them, not the damage going through shield. In a best case situation anyways

Going through shield as in destroying the shield

[carmine dew]

i think okina's considered the best but nami solo is really high up there as well

they are both really good

[near vortex]

Can give both a try and see what you like more

[dense knot]

Ah, just more efficient if you have a pure Toxin build and making that hurt as opposed to trying to get through shielding and wasting slots/damage for breaking that

[thorn kiln]

alr thanks, i'll use okina since i dont have nami solo incarnon 🥲

[fathom sky]

You're ignoring the shields through Toxin anyway on normal enemies so for them the Magnetic does nothing. Magnetic's main job is solely Overguard

[dense knot]

Gotcha. This helps a lot with my build crafting. I'm not diving into a full meta build since I'm building for fun, but I want it to at least be end game viable.

[fathom sky]

You straight up just delete half to two-thirds of a Corput enemy's EHP not having to deal with their shields

[dense knot]

If going Toxin or Toxin Viral.

[mellow nest]

Another thing against running magnetic in addition to toxin is to actually make it fit in a build. Nowadays you barely have enough space for crit mods / special mods

Going full elemental used to be the meta when you just didnt have much else to fill it

[dense knot]

Yeah I started when Trin P was released and been on and off from then

It's a lot different now than it was before

[mellow nest]

Absolutely so

[dense knot]

Hmm. Do people still take Viral against Murmur?

Even though it's resistant to the damage? The status effect is still good right?

[carmine dew]

yeah

people take viral against everything tbh

like even if your weapon did 100% viral damage which is most likely not gonna be the case

viral stacks are still up to +325% damage

[mellow nest]

Yeah, only one thats immune is Deimos infestation. You still want the viral for the damage amplification, either directly on your weapon or applied via companion / abilities / other

They also have a bunch of armor (most of them)

[carmine dew]

tbh in this post jade shadows meta idt anyone really builds for damage types for factions

viral + heat for guns and elec for melee is all you need

[mellow nest]

Corpus exist

Deimos Infested exist

[carmine dew]

yeah but you can just use viral heat for corpus

[mellow nest]

You can use it for everything, yes

Its pretty terrible at high lvl though

[carmine dew]

not really

[mellow nest]

And you might outright die to the deimos infestation

[carmine dew]

and if youre going for cap the fissure is always grineer

[dense knot]

Got it.

For Deimos infested, is it worth building Blast specifically for that faction or can you just get away with other elements like Cold, Electric, or Magnetic?

Especially in high level SP?

[carmine dew]

for deimos you really can kinda build whatever because they don't scale super high

electric is always nice, it's a DoT and a stun

[mighty flare]

corpus are made of paper and we have magnetic mods now, so you can add that
deimos infested arent common enemies

[deep grotto]

Melee influence jumpscare

[dense knot]

@fathom sky would like your input as well

[mellow nest]

Its worth it imo, some of them are absurdly tanky. You need to strip their armor for any kind of actual damage without a proper setup

[fathom sky]

Just do like, Heat. Just Heat, frankly.

Corro Heat

[dense knot]

Ofc, I main Trin so 100% armor strip is a given

Which I why I'm asking for raw damage on Viral resistant factions

[carmine dew]

the minmax would be heat or elec if you already have a strip

[deep grotto]

I feel like it’s a bit of a “might as well” kind of thing on the Grey Strain