builds-discussion

[potent marten]

gloom nekros is meh at most

[queen parcel]

what does count then?

[devout valve]

archon intensify is worthels mod

[velvet pulsar]

Lifesteal abilities aren't "heal" to them

[devout valve]

worthless *

[potent marten]

im going full on melee setup to make full use of the passive so i use null star for the good ol' affliction interaction

[velvet pulsar]

And BTW adding to this, archon intensify only procs when healing missing health

Which means ur health has to be lower than ur max cap in order to proc it

[chrome badge]

Umb. Intensify >>>>

[velvet pulsar]

actively taking damage on health, or draining it by means like combat discipline or (coda) hema

[queen parcel]

could a tank yareli use it?

[chrome badge]

no

[dense geode]

Do I actually need max strength for subsumed roar? Like, is 250 not enough?

[devout valve]

well u dont need it

but the more well the more

[velvet pulsar]

Probably
I haven't tested Coda Hema if it bypasses overguard

[queen parcel]

na i was thinking gurdian

it procs intensify for whatever reason

[chrome badge]

loyal meru?

[queen parcel]

no has to be gurdian

[devout valve]

yareli 2 + adaptation is more then enough

u dont need more deff mods or arcanes

[chrome badge]

hmmm healing meru via her 1? thats an odd interaction

[queen parcel]

got it only put one mod on her

[velvet pulsar]

There is a way for yareli to trigger conventional DR buffs on overguard

[devout valve]

well u dont need more deff, so u can invest in damage

[velvet pulsar]

However, as yareli mains will easily predict, just like most yareli bugs, she has to be on merulina

[potent marten]

speaking about DR for overguard, shield of shadows does that

[devout valve]

cuz its damage redirection

trin can do it too

[potent marten]

yeah cool isnt it

[queen parcel]

it mean it's what the augment does, the weird part is how healing merulina counts for archon intensify

[potent marten]

its also PSF

[mighty flare]

No not really but sorta depends on the scenario, some frames need roar at specific thresholds

[potent marten]

true but nekros is cooler

[velvet pulsar]

Heyyy that means me using Electromagnetic Shielding to support my squad will also provide DR on their overguard

[queen parcel]

shield of shadows seems useless tbh, but i dont have the mod itself, does the DR scale with strength?

[devout valve]

its 90% dr with 140% str i think

[dense geode]

Would 300 be enough for like anything?

[devout valve]

333% str is 100% roar so 2x damage on all u do

[dense geode]

Alr

[mighty flare]

Yeah

[dense geode]

I’m not gonna bother going higher than 300 then lwk

[mighty flare]

But you don’t really need it that high

[dense geode]

How high would be the general “enough”?

[mighty flare]

~200% is fine in general, going beyond that is only needed for frames like sevagoth or reave setups

[dense geode]

Gotcha

[mighty flare]

But even then you can skim around with viral or precision intensify

[velvet pulsar]

For some, even the highest is not enough to hit thresholds.
Like revenant and trinity
For sevagoth, 255%
200 is enough for rest

[dense geode]

What about wisp?

Also that’s just good information to have in general ngl

[velvet pulsar]

There's no highlight threshold for wisp iirc

Wisp appreciates meme strength

[dense geode]

Yeah i noticed that ;-;

But since I’m not going for a “weapon buffing” wisp, it’s probably fine to lower it

[velvet pulsar]

As much as u can get without compromise

[wanton widget]

So I did it. I decided to cut down the middle out his one and give it only 3 forma. I wanted performance while mainly using it for its Amalgam Argonak metal auger mod. I don’t like taking naked weapons into battle as I expect every part of my kit to be useful. So here are 3 builds. A viral primer, cold primer and blast builds for the argonak. I actually like how it performs despite it being a rather trash weapon. It is capable of performing on steel path and getting kills for itself… obviously it works well with the “Rakta Fart Dagger” as well as any other Dagger but you can use grouping tools to clump enemies together and make use of the solid punch through this weapon ends up having (+3).

[velvet pulsar]

Text wall incoming?
Hopefully necraloid won't nuke it

Welp, I'm too late

[wanton widget]

I did not give it anything in the exulist slot

[velvet pulsar]

Doesn't it have a stat boost build where it uses all support mods possible?

[dense geode]

It’s funny how I think around 170% strength is enough, I’ll need to check 😂

[wanton widget]

Yeah but its damage is terrible. Which support mods you talking about?

[wanton widget]

Sorry I thought I replied

[velvet pulsar]

The holster mod which gives 8s of recoil reduction and accuracy

[wanton widget]

No need. It’s easy to control

[velvet pulsar]

Then, u already covered amalgam..
Then...

Can't really catch up rn
Maybe for even mending shot for exilus?

[wanton widget]

Its got great crit and good status but its base damage mars it and holds it back

[wanton widget]

Not putting any more forms into it. Not worth as of right now. Maybe when it proves its value then I will open up that slot.

[wanton widget]

Not an exilus slot

Need the upward arrows at the top.

Plus there are better tricks for health and energy now anyways

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah honestly I'm biased towards QoL on this thing

[wanton widget]

Well the weapon doesn’t need full mod suite on it to be good. As I said it can hold its own and works great in the role it is in as a support weapon/primer considering it’s terrible as its original purpose being a precision rifle.

[velvet pulsar]

Worse sniper

[wanton widget]

Indeed

[velvet pulsar]

U using some famous picks like rakta dagger or balla zaw with contagion influence?

[wanton widget]

But great ranges primer! :3 the thing I like about this game is that you can either find or make gems from anything.

[wanton widget]

Rakta “Fart” Dagger with influence

[velvet pulsar]

Yep

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah I build unique niches too
Also found a decent use of this thing today

[wanton widget]

Ah fantastic! Use with guardian Derisions

[velvet pulsar]

Already

[wanton widget]

Nice!

[chrome badge]

i use ack and brunt mainly on harrow or kully bc the incarnon is great with kully and i need to charge up my harrow 4

[velvet pulsar]

Like argonak, I didn't build ack & brunt yet.
Mainly because the axe projectile of the incarnon doesn't scale as good as hate or ceramic dagger projectile

But I might build it for 2 other reasons

[wanton widget]

I have to revisit the ack and brunt. It’s a fun weapon. A kuva version would be cool lol

[velvet pulsar]

1. The incarnon perk rogue readiness which reloads guns (not much special since it doesn't generate ammo on its own)
2. The unique trait, which is to absorb damage for heavy attack (which has very short cap but who knows what this could enable)

[native lily]

Hi, can someone help me? I feel like my builds are very messed up :(

[fathom sky]

Post 'em.

[gaunt rivet]

Iirc, because Ack & Brunt has an Incarnon, it is ineligible for Kuva enhancement

[devout valve]

post them

[native lily]

its ok?

[devout valve]

ye

maybe more range instead of constitution

[velvet pulsar]

Also on what ability do u proc protea's passive?

[native lily]

I just made it, I'm still understanding the mechanics of Protea, it's confusing how the skills work.

[velvet pulsar]

Number 1 thing, I'll recommend to invert tap/hold cast for protea

That'll allow u to switch the tap/hold actions of her 1 and also allow u to cancel 4 by tapping it

What u have to do is always keep 4 active, but whenever the ticking sound begins/ability countdown is about to end, cancel the 4 by taping it (or holding it if u haven't changed to invert tap/hold setting)

[native lily]

oh okay

[velvet pulsar]

If u don't cancel it, you'll simply return to your original location where u casted 4, and also a long animation will play if u moved far from it.

This also resets ur shields, health, and energy to the original state when u casted her 4

Also always keep her 1's shield mode active. That'll increase ur shields to more than a thousand.

3 gives ammo and health + energy orbs.
Cast 2 whenever u see an enemy.

Her 1's slash mode is useful against map chokepoints or when defending something against melee attacks.

Both augments u have equipped recommend her 4th ability to be casted during her 2nd ability.

Oh and for her passive

Her passive grants +100% ability strength after every 4 ability casts

[mellow nest]

If you accidently dont cancel the 4 you can swap to operator mode and wait it out. Upon returning to warframe, it gets teleported to you.
Items that arent dropped upon cast like the Disruption keys will travel to that location tho and stay there, hilariously

@velvet pulsar

Dunno if you knew that btw

[velvet pulsar]

I didn't know that
I don't think that prevents energy revert

[mellow nest]

All it does is not travel you back X seconds. I play 240% Duration + Molt Efficiency, so thats 22 seconds Id travel back lmao

It has costed me a mission or two until I figured out that you can wait it out as operator

[velvet pulsar]

This might become a genuine strat once focus school ultimate arrives

[mellow nest]

Yeah, maybs theres a skill or two you can combine this with

[velvet pulsar]

Anyways, ty for the info and goodnight from my side of the globe.

[mellow nest]

For sure my dude, rest well

[native lily]

thanks @velvet pulsar

[velvet pulsar]

Lastly, u would wanna set the rotation of her passive mainly for her 2.

U can have more than 1 of those turrets active simultaneously, only 1 will be locked with u

Enjoy.

[terse sky]

WHAT

https://tenor.com/view/blud-jump-gif-6515609620968906694

tomorrow i'm 100% dying, i used all of my luck on this 1 riven

[novel bear]

10 plat final offer

[icy light]

Oh while I'm here... Xaku Builds. I'm curious if someone's been able to figure out a few builds aside from the absolute worst ones on Overframe.

I am... really trying to not do a Melee build tbh. Why would you do melee when you can shoot someone and bubble them?

Oh right. Also abt the survivability options. Recharge is decent for Xaku or?

[wanton jacinth]

Small question for Dagath enjoyer. How do you build and what do you pair with the horse lady ?

[terse sky]

this is a end game build and i swapped the 3 for pillage if you are interested

[icy light]

Ooh. Range and str. Her 1 is a delayed LOS, but it does have a falloff range. Its not an infinite projectile.

2 is well. Instant LOS. But the spread range for dmg also helps.

[queen parcel]

Max range and duration and stay in skeleton mode at all times, take some energy regen and some death saving stuff and you'll be golden

Weapon don't really matter but...nothing funnier then a skeleton with an AK

[icy light]

Mgmn mhmn. As long as it can spread the void dmg it doesnt matter gotcha.

Duration I get, range is for 2's targeting and 3's range right?

Might do those str shards, but would casting shard be fine too?

[wanton jacinth]

Things like overextended, that kind of stuff ?

[mighty flare]

you dont really need range on dagath

neutral range is fine

[wanton jacinth]

I'm curious to see what it could look like

[icy light]

That's -efficiency/+range? Decent. But make one mod have the -efficiency. Even though her passive is a free energize eh... its not consistent enough for her energy costs.

[mighty flare]

overextended is -str/+range

[sacred sleet]

Y'all I need some help with slight optimization
Been enjoying Baruuk prime recently
I need some assistance/suggestions for an empty mod slot
It's a status melee influence build (I hate them as much as the next but compared to most, it's fun)
I'm using berserker fury, quickening, drifting contact (helps with weeping wounds) galv reflex and elementalist, and ofc shocking touch
Opportunitys reach in exilus
Should I add crit? Crit damage? Range? Heavy attack damage?

[scarlet arch]

Hey, Tenno. I dont know where to put this, so here it is here in builds. Ive recently done a little "Mathing" because I was asking questions on one build over another for the Ekhein vs Shildeg. I've got duplicate slam builds on both although both seem to fair well with basic heavy attacks, it was not too clear what one was allowing for larger numbers. Here's what I found.

[latent adder]

Galvanized steel + blood rush

[sacred sleet]

I only have a single mod slot so that's not gonna work

[latent adder]

Uhh what else do u have slotted

U should remove either weeping or dritfting

[novel bear]

Use dexterity or naramon for combo duration

[sacred sleet]

Drifting is needed to help weeping remain active, I'd rather not keep a constant and beyond minimal 4x combo mult
And I'm using madurai, as per usual

[novel bear]

Do you have primary or secondary dexterity

[sacred sleet]

I might have it for secondary but I somehow don't have my arcane slot open for my epitaph prime

Can probably get one from teshin

[timber pier]

Can someone help me, I don't know one to pick?

[sacred sleet]

Can't have CD without CC
Imo I'd take the right, especially to make slash the primary physical damage type but uhh
It's opinion based

[latent adder]

U dont even need weeping wounds with reactive storm

[latent adder]

Left

[timber pier]

Alecaframe saying CD and MS too.

[warped osprey]

Anyone got a good build for latron

[devout valve]

use dobble tap if u like it

i dont

[warped osprey]

thx

[devout valve]

oh and swap to viral heat if u are not using a nourish frame

[ocean spindle]

Why doesent secondary outburst work in squads but work perfectly fine solo ?

Is there a mechanic in missing ?

[buoyant patio]

Probably the classic bug of [insert thing here] not working as a client.

[eager charm]

is there any reason to use this valkyr augment when ripline exists? the grouping on ripline seems way better

[signal condor]

Pre valkyr rework mod probably

[novel bear]

It gives a buff to parkour velocity and sprint speed

And what else are you putting in exilus?

[eager charm]

cunning drift for right now, lemme get pic

i could probably do better but this does just fine in steel path void cascade so far

i like that paralysis pauses a whole room like rhino stomp so i don't run subsume builds as often

[novel bear]

Personally I would take either of valkyr’s exilus augments over cunning drift, I don’t think valkyr needs max range
But that’s personal preference

[eager charm]

ill try the assult one and see if i like it

is there no ability duration exilus mod?

[novel bear]

No

[eager charm]

darn

[dense geode]

Is 300% strength enough for wisp?

Ppl keep telling me to go 400+

[mighty flare]

for what general stuff? more than enough
for specific squad stuff, yeah you max out str

what are you using wisp for

[dense geode]

Not squad

[mighty flare]

then doesnt matter, you can get by with even less

[dense geode]

I’m not building her for support

Actually I’m trying to fine tune her for solo

[mighty flare]

300 fine for solo wisp

[dense geode]

Okok ty

[wanton widget]

Fair enough :3

[upbeat kelp]

I don’t understand the point of the lone story for duviri. Remove optional content? It’s optional, just walk past. Should have been no forced undercroft content, just let me screw around in duviri. Max duviri shenanigans

[granite ginkgo]

then pick the other one?

the content of lone duviri is to speedrun to get that stone thing (forgot ady), now we got islewear, which much faster since u dont need to do the worms

[astral tinsel]

it's to force your squadmates to walk past

rather than ****ing off to go fishing or do paragrimm puzzles while you do the actual objectives

[forest jetty]

Unlike most of the other materials needed from Duviri, Pathos Clamps have to be obtained from the end chest of the run. You either need to run Lone Story or the recently added Isleweaver to speed run for Pathos Clamps. While you also need to complete the run for the Kullervo currency, either the lucky runs of Lone Story (during the proper Spirals), or a quick march of Duviri Experience after battling Kullervo (again, proper Spirals only), is necessary.

Other than the one other ingredient (best farmed in Circuit) that farming Duviri Experience without completing the main objectives doesn’t provide, the overwhelming majority of Duviri grinding is best done with the more laid back approach.

Until you have all the stuff that such grinding is used for, and then it’s Pathos Clamps all the way.

[novel bear]

This is what enough strength on wisp looks like (overpower override bug from 1999 calendar)

[chrome badge]

i think you have health

[midnight horizon]

Any suggestions?

[crisp birch]

any kuva chakkhur build?

[novel bear]

More strength
You want to hit 255

[granite ginkgo]

do u got archon intensify? gloom proc extra str

umbral intensify is another alternative
and archon crimson shard is a must

[midnight horizon]

I don't gave it yet

Have*

[midnight horizon]

Oh

[granite ginkgo]

are u in SP rn? if not u dont need to reach that high

around 200 str is enuff

[midnight horizon]

Ya I'm not at steel path yet, still going through the stuff. I don't even know how to go there aside from the nodes.

[granite ginkgo]

unlock SP is bit tedious, u want to unlock all the node in each planet - once u done it be show on navigation screen (right side of ur screen)

SP is basically skip few rotation, it begin the game enemies at level 110

[midnight horizon]

But I need to finish the story first? First Arc?

[granite ginkgo]

yep, since certain planet/junction lock behind story quest

[midnight horizon]

Ok, first Arc then the nodes. Alright back to the builds. I have 202% strength, I'm sure that's enough

[minor zenith]

What weapons pair the best with rhino?

[granite ginkgo]

any tbf

if u want AoE u can pick beam type, single target, burston, latron etc is fine

rhino is skill offence and weapon buffer with roar

[minor zenith]

Well ive heard he really shines with DOTS

[novel bear]

He does

Kuva nukor is a good status weapon

[granite ginkgo]

right he doesnt need to use arcane enervate with nukor

[novel bear]

What would you use besides enervate? Flare?

Enervate gives the most damage by far, since nukor’s base cd is high

[granite ginkgo]

i mean since he new he doesnt have access to arcane slot yet, does he?

rhino already provide buff, dont need to meta yet

[novel bear]

If you don’t have access to arcane slots, you don’t need an arcane in the kuva nukor even without roar

[granite ginkgo]

look u misunderstood, he asking what weapon ,dont need to mention the arcane yet

rhino can pair any, dont make any addition information for confusing peps

[novel bear]

You’re the one who brought up arcanes?

[granite ginkgo]

n u asking more about the arcane, i just said dont need em

smh

[queen parcel]

anyone got a nekros loot build?

[sweet herald]

anyone got a good sev build for 1 shot at cap?

[solar reef]

250% ability strength + Roar is what’s needed to one shot

after that its just preference

[wanton wind]

This seems good

[midnight horizon]

Neg dmg to grineer is kinda tuff

Not the good kind of tuff

[frail condor]

I've accepted I'm p sure idk how to mod. Is this good or am I tripping

[novel bear]

What are you using it for? Just general use?

[zealous rapids]

what you use that much efficiency for?

[sweet herald]

Still not one shotting for some reason ):

[novel bear]

Spamming abilities, or sol gate I guess

[sweet herald]

Also anyone got a good mesa build?

[zealous rapids]

you better slot flow or something there

[novel bear]

It’s 255 iirc, not 250

And sev’s augments

[sweet herald]

Mines at 259

With both augments

[novel bear]

Idk then

[sweet herald]

Unless I prime then it does

[novel bear]

Worthy comradery, brief respite, or growing power for the aura if you have any of them

[mighty flare]

show ze build

[sweet herald]

In a sec

[novel bear]

Put flow or something over carnis carapace

[zealous rapids]

you survive with wisp using motes and invis, you don't really need any mods for survival

[frail condor]

I use my motes really often during excavations, bounties & mobile defense & sol gate chews thru energy really fast

I had primed flow on her before too

[novel bear]

Sol gate is not a good ability
It’s better with its augment

[frail condor]

I like it, but it definitely would work better w the augment

[zealous rapids]

yeah, it can be somwhat decent with heat inerit setup, but better use augment

[sweet herald]

Do yall think mesa is still cap viable without hotshot

[novel bear]

Do you have avenger?

[frail condor]

So replace Carnis Carapace with Primed Flow & that should be fine then

[mighty flare]

yes

[sweet herald]

Do u got a build for it?

[sweet herald]

Nah

I’m broke ash on arcanes

is a r0 avenger worth it?

[mighty flare]

tbh

i wouldnt reccomend mesa for lvlcap esp if regulator platform

[charred gale]

start slamming on her😍

[sweet herald]

aw

i rlly like mesa vro shes so fun

[mighty flare]

very underwhelming without lethal amounts of copium

[sweet herald]

who wuld yall reccomend for me to play at cap?

[mighty flare]

subsume over 4 and run a real gun 🧠

[charred gale]

garuda

shes so fun

[sweet herald]

alr built her lowk

only invested in saryn yareli mesa and rev

everyone else i half ahhed

[charred gale]

u built into her 1 or her 4?

[sweet herald]

4

wait no 1

[charred gale]

ye ok

i originally had built into her 4 and it was so underwhelming lol

[sweet herald]

why does mesa have to be doo doo bro ):

[mighty flare]

blame the ppl that overhype her and left her in her current state

[sweet herald]

aw

for garuda, what weapons should i run w her?

[mighty flare]

something to handle acolytes

[sweet herald]

laetum?

[mighty flare]

yeah thatll work

[sweet herald]

i lowk keep dying on her thats the only issue i had w her

[mighty flare]

run the lazy huras setup

[latent adder]

Use shade+duplex bond

Or yeah huras

[mighty flare]

i forget shade exists yeah

[sweet herald]

was the lazy huras build?

[mighty flare]

just run their invis precepts lol

garuda is really only forced to use weapons for acolytes
she can just spam abilities for everyone else

[velvet pulsar]

I think that sentence is messed somewhere

[mighty flare]

though duplex on huras can somewhat handle acolytes, would still run a acolyte weapon

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah now u mention weapon

[mighty flare]

?

[velvet pulsar]

U mentioned abilities for both scenarios

[mighty flare]

:clueless:

[velvet pulsar]

This

[mighty flare]

photoshopped

[charred gale]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-gif-18348698948575815487

[mighty flare]

https://tenor.com/view/giant-fatass-bnuuy-bunny-bnuuy-rabbit-rabbit-whatever-gif-15720990188084548831

[sweet herald]

wtb protea? she scale good?

[mighty flare]

yes

[velvet pulsar]

She can also become a bigger range xaku turret

And to think her 2 got an augment to pause the duration by her 4, definitely inspired from xaku

[mighty flare]

wtb qorvex fashion

[charred gale]

🤢

[velvet pulsar]

Watermelon qorvex inbound 🍉

[mighty flare]

qorvex but blue

hurts my eyes less

[latent adder]

2 needs a little priming to scale

[sweet herald]

does panzer work well?

[exotic silo]

buddy just use grouping and she scales fine into levels 1000~

[latent adder]

Im talkin about lvlcap

Its a little slow to kill stuff like thrax and demolysts

And grouping in most lvlcap gamemodes doesnt really work that well due to low density

[exotic silo]

we got a different definition of scaling then cuz most of the time when people wanna know if a warframe is viable they mean base steel path

[wanton jacinth]

She's basically the Engie of the roster, if you need to hold down a position, three or four turrets will do the trick
And her 1... Well... Use "da ooorb" mode it helps with shields

[quiet laurel]

viable =! scaling

[mellow nest]

A big advantage of Temporal Artillery is that you can also just keep using your gun. It doesnt melt extremely high lvl stuff fast, but its got a ton of stuff packed into one ability

Can also proc Heat based effects and such and will melt up to 50% armor by itself. Can ofc also slap on Temporal Erosion for full armor strip

[wanton jacinth]

True, Archon Vitality also does a lot on her 2

[sweet herald]

why cant they just make mesa scale well shes literally perfect ): i wouldnt have to find a diff frame if she scaled better

[deep grotto]

Mesa does scale well i think
Maybe drop a config to see where the issues are?

On another note i randomly ended up getting the Korrudo

God i love this thing

[frigid hawk]

I have a question about the Killing Blow mod. As far as I can see, it's additive to base damage mods like Pressure Point. So theoretically if I only spam heavy attacks, I can replace Pressure Point with Killing Blow, right? (Let's omit Condition Overload for now.)

[charred gale]

Yuh

[charred gale]

Mesa struggles if u use regulators

Lacks dmg

[hard dove]

high lvl regulator is a primer

[exotic silo]

regulators have dogshit status chance

[hard dove]

it still fires so fast you can get some decent stack

[exotic silo]

you'd be better off using an actual primer secondary since peacemakers have a fire rate ramp up

cycron or even a kitgun

kompressa is great if you don't care about stagger

[hard dove]

did i ever say regulator is a better primer than those?

[exotic silo]

more like why would you ever pick mesa if you're gonna use regulators like that

[hard dove]

cuz one could pick based on fun/preference over numbers?

[scarlet mason]

I have a question about vauban's helminth ability - - tesla nervos and its augment - tesla bank.
I wonder if putting it on banshee or excalibur with thier augments for finisher damage increase and taking some impact based weapone to make enemies more vulnerable to said finishers would make finishers an AOE attacks with tesla nervos and tesla bank augment. What do you guys think?

[hard dove]

why else would Limbo players exists

[zealous rapids]

because rift torrent is fun when you make it work

[exotic silo]

I mean the whole fun with Mesa IS peacemakers imo

and you can make em work ok

secondary outburst and crescendo stacking gives em pretty solid damage

[velvet pulsar]

I have a mesa build which subsumes over her 4

Believe it or not, Mesa has a unique nuke build completely ignoring her 4

[exotic silo]

lemme guess, ballistic battery with cedo alt fire?

[velvet pulsar]

Not a hard guess, isn't it?

[exotic silo]

nope lol

[velvet pulsar]

So no, peacemakers is not everything for her

And it's not even like +100% absolute crit is the only thing doing the job
It's the added damage from ballistic battery

[severe bough]

Depending on what you use instead for killing blow u could also slot smth else (gald might/bane) u already got enough base dmg from ppp/saci p and u get enough wind up Speed from reflex and amalgam

[severe bough]

He def needs some kind of rework

[velvet pulsar]

%healing
Greater eclipse buff
Trollers, but then again, banish is a subsume
Recent limbo change

So it's a slight bit more than preference over number

[severe bough]

Anyone got ideas before fungi frame is out what he will be good at?

[velvet pulsar]

From what I've understood, his 3 is full blown invulnerability

[hard dove]

we have his kit already?

[severe bough]

I also heared that isnt that the one where you transform in is fungi form?

[severe bough]

Yes

[velvet pulsar]

So either his 1 or 2 gonna be his subsume.

His 4 might have synergy with Scourge Prime or Void bubble procs

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[severe bough]

Still possible to use weapons in that form? because in dev stream looked like your just jumping around

[velvet pulsar]

In that case it'll just be Assimilate 2.0, which means dispensary automatically is a decided susbume for 1 config.

I have no idea if that can use weapons.

I didn't really watch the showcase with interest, I was too busy thinking about Oberon's passive exploits and Archgun arcane combinations

[severe bough]

Lmao sounds great also hyped about oberon rework glad we get it soon

[velvet pulsar]

Maybe that's true for most people

[severe bough]

What you found out bout oberon? Any interesting things

[velvet pulsar]

Firstly the subsume options
Melee oberon can gather a lot of simplicity fame

[severe bough]

I only watched mhblackys Video it just popped up on feed

[velvet pulsar]

Nah I refuse to watch that channel

[severe bough]

Normally i dont do that aswell my plan was just to look onlinen but it happend that i looked it

[velvet pulsar]

It still feels like it exists more for YouTube and less for Warframe.
The big brains care about the game's talk that they don't start promoting for like and subscribe in the mid of their vid

That channel had several research errors when I used to watch

And too newbie oriented, which I didn't need

[severe bough]

What crit does larkspur have? Since i was thinking about a enervate merci one if crit is low also they need to bring elementalist mods for archguns and banes

[velvet pulsar]

I have specifically managed to make a detailed plan for my larkspur prime

[charred gale]

I feel like warframe ytbers are the worst ytbers for any game ive played

[velvet pulsar]

Basically blast modding + crux + enervate

[severe bough]

Mines probably gonning to be blast as its niw enervate and probably smth else in primary since we got p rubedo line

[severe bough]

Right crux could be nice

[velvet pulsar]

Nah u haven't seen good ones then
Good research, no drama farming, some stick just for gameplay, others also cover lore and extra stuff

[severe bough]

There so less people who actually now what there talking about

[charred gale]

Ik about the good ones, but like the big ones are just bad or mid at best

[charred gale]

Ikr

[velvet pulsar]

As in the builds?
I guess.
But they're good source of new bugs for me personally

And my entire endgame plan is farming bugs

[charred gale]

I feel like the videos usually just regurgitate whats in the wiki so id rather just read the wiki

Its faster and it doesnt miss any information most of the time

[velvet pulsar]

Exactly, so I go for new bugs coz bugs usually don't go on wiki, they go in wiki comments

[severe bough]

Sometimes i look vids for new Updates and infos about upcoming as i did now but i cant stand it that so less people even now about gunco still

[charred gale]

I havent checked comments in so long

Cause they werent in the new wiki for a good bit

[velvet pulsar]

This is one time where wiki is giving lesser info for "upcoming update" page.

[severe bough]

Really

[velvet pulsar]

However even the most descriptive youtube explanations aren't enough to me personally.

Example: no youtuber has revealed the names of the 2 new upcoming Nightwave augments (atleast I haven't watched anyone mention those)

I noted the names from the original DEvstream

Necrophagic Vigor
Dreadful Killshot

Assuming this is for nauberus, one could be for Phage

However because Shedu is getting a new skin from nightwave, one can assume that the 2 mods are for Shedu and Basmu

Because DE has been slowly building up for sentient stuff

[velvet pulsar]

Example:

1. Encouraging archgun usage from ETA modifiers (95% lesser damage from non-heavy weapons). And Necramechs do use archguns. And sentients use Orphix Fields to block warframes, so necramechs gameplay will be implemented.
2. Tau update
3. Archgun Arcanes

[cyan parrot]

what rolls do i want for this ideally?

[versed harbor]

some form of cd, ms, fr, dmg, cc, sc (in that order) and a harmless negative

[cyan parrot]

Ty!

[severe bough]

Hopefully basmu gets a good one so its actually viable

[severe bough]

Sounds really interesting so time to really get the necramech going

[velvet pulsar]

I kinda fear it though

If it gets easier to make it deal damage cap on the pulse, the integer overload healing will one-shot ur health even if u have overguard available.

[shut junco]

whats the best mods for regular mirage

[cerulean rune]

1.Does Seismic Bond's second part only applies to Companion melee attacks ?
2.Does Arcane Arachnee buffs Ash's clones ?

[solar reef]

no, arachne doesnt work with bladestorm

i believe this applies to all exalted, which is odd

since abilities like Styanax’ 4 ARE affected

and as far as I know it doesnt actually have to be companion melee, but any companion weapon. As long you have a channeled ability active.

[novel bear]

Arcane arachne works on exalteds
It doesn’t work on melees, including melee exalteds

[solar reef]

oh i actually didnt know this

what weapon category is Styanax’s spears actually coded as

or is it simply a weapon

[novel bear]

Speargun?

[solar reef]

do they even need to be coded as a specific weapon type

or can they exist seperately as projectiles that are just weapons

[novel bear]

Wiki says it doesn’t get affected by bonuses like rifle amp

[solar reef]

so i guess its just a projectile that counts as a weapon?

[novel bear]

I would guess that arcane arachne is coded with an exception to melees, which is why it affects things that aren’t primaries or secondaries

[solar reef]

it specifically applies to things that count as weapons

which is why holster amp also applies to his 4

[gilded lichen]

anyone got a good build to deal with sister hounds?

[velvet pulsar]

They don't
I think it is simply coded to ignore any melee tags

[deep grotto]

Hm
I don’t have Blood Rush, B.Fury or Drifting contact, so do you think running this build with both reach and primed point would be marginally viable?

Figured id review previous posts before asking people how i should build it

[brisk epoch]

Ok so

[velvet pulsar]

Also Styanax's 4 used to hit arbitration drones

IDK if that still does

[deep grotto]

I also happen to have Amalgam OS

[brisk epoch]

Blood rush:without it you will only hit yellow crits. This will severely nerf your damage scaling
Berserker fury:just an AS mod,you're prolly fine without it
Drifting contact:if you're not running blood rush then you don't need this one cuz it's for combo more than status

However, primed reach will add some to your damage based off of pure area

What is primed point? @deep grotto

[deep grotto]

ppp

i just don’t like using that acronym lmao

[brisk epoch]

All three words please

[deep grotto]

Primed Pressure point

[brisk epoch]

OH

[blissful verge]

Hi.

[astral tinsel]

Could go sac pressure to balance out the missing BR

[brisk epoch]

Anyone who uses Sac pressure is dumb

[deep grotto]

I don’t exactly have any umbral forma to make that worthwhile anyway

[brisk epoch]

It's literally worse than PPP for more capacity

But really the only way to get these things to their maximum potential is to have something that buffs up their crit chance

So if you take away blood rush, the only thing that's gonna make this viable is an ability like wrathful advance or voruna's 1(?)

[blissful verge]

Somehow more critical chance is affecting the efficiency of my status damage that I do with influence, I don't hitkill even because I'm using Incarnon hate, so anyway, I spread the electric procs with fire in the influence with Incarnon, can you tell me if there is a certain limit for the critical chance to be bad for status damage and the status chance?

Good morning btw.

Ah, im using Kullervo.

O reach 882% of CC.

With Wrathfull advance.

Hate build.

Kullervo Build.

If someone can help me and explain to me what to fit to make status damage even more efficient, I would be really grateful.

[pale belfry]

But your build, all i can see is elect output

i dont see any heat

Enemy must inflicted with heat status, and your build i dont see any heat

[blissful verge]

Incarnon has electric procs on its projectiles, the scythe shoots ignio projectiles, so I just combine it with the shock trooper and have ignio and electric spreading with the influence.

I don't need elemental mod if the weapon already has innate ignition in it self.

[pale belfry]

if you boost volt subsume, it is combine into rad

[blissful verge]

every mod I use influences the damage of this incarnate aspect of Hate.

[blissful verge]

No, don't get rad.

[mighty flare]

It does not

[pale belfry]

Last time i using it

its still combine

[mighty flare]

Those augment got updated

No longer combines

[blissful verge]

I guess u use so far Ago.

anyway, I know that when critical goes over 300% it starts to give 1x more damage/critical multiplier for every 100% critical chance, thereafter.

[astral tinsel]

actually ||☝️🤓||, without other sources of base damage, only sac steel and 1x glad set for CC and amalgam OS + glad might for CD, sac pressure leads a bit at 10x combo and under

[mellow nest]

Huge spoiler, dont click

[astral tinsel]

on Korrudo, or any other weapon with 31% base cc and 2.5x base cd

bit disappointed that you're mostly correct though

[brisk epoch]

Heh

[blissful verge]

and that more damage affects status damage, critical damage and critical chance do this, so the build should hit the mobs and decimate them practically instantly.

But, Its not working like that.

I change the Burning hate to primed pressure point, to increase the damage of the projetiles, and... Seems working....

But, 120% of status damage aren't that good from status build?

[astral tinsel]

that sounds strange, where did you get that from?

[blissful verge]

From here.

Warframe general.

And YouTube.

[pale belfry]

okay, just double check the patch

yeah, they rework the augment

[blissful verge]

Spread ignio and eletric are awesome.

Almost better than viral.

[astral tinsel]

one perhaps non-obvious side effect is that the status damage bonus is no longer additive with electric mods

[blissful verge]

I don't speak english Very well, sry If i say something wrong.

[astral tinsel]

but rather with elementalist

[blissful verge]

But, eletric are a elemental one.

And i have the ignio with.

[copper zodiac]

how much range do i go for mag?

[deep grotto]

Idk i kinda just use it on Valkyr

[brisk epoch]

Valkyr just adds damage

So if your gonna run it on Valkyr take off your pressure mod and just add crit

[deep grotto]

Noted

[blissful verge]

With the primed pressure point, Sorry for miss some shots lmao, i was holding the phone with my nose to Record this hahaha.

I hope you were able to see.

[pale belfry]

your laptop remind me my old one

framework laptop

[blissful verge]

Hahaha, i play in 800x600.

Only to reach 60fps.

[pale belfry]

btw

there is other broken build you could try with kullervo

with shock tropper

[grave cloak]

to be fair any build becomes broken with kullervo

[pale belfry]

it was an one one i made for voruna, but with xata tox

[grave cloak]

why not just use roar at that point though

[pale belfry]

"to be fair any build becomes broken with kullervo"
and dont even know what context is

[grave cloak]

yes I do know what the context is, I read up

try again.

[novel bear]

Not if you have sac steel
The added crit chance makes up for the lower damage

[pale belfry]

using shock tropper and what is the roar you are talking about ?

dont you see tox dmg in the pic ?

[pale belfry]

.

[grave cloak]

using a subsume.... and wasting a mod slot for an augment just for that

much wow very impressed

[pale belfry]

🤣

you dont even know what iam talking about

hey man, go away

[grave cloak]

and if I don't?

[pale belfry]

can you combine tox + elec on the same build and using arcane influence with your roar? ?

dont you know what the roar do with slam build ?

[grave cloak]

no, but at that point just mod away the toxin

[pale belfry]

again

you know nothing

go with your roar, slam corro on demoliser lvl 225

SP

[grave cloak]

so you claim, yet I've taken dozens of different frames to level cap disruption

wanna try again?

[pale belfry]

again, what you yap about ?

[grave cloak]

I should ask you the same since you claim I know nothing

so you first

[pale belfry]

I using tox on my build, combine with double DOT. Elect + tox different as DOT not corro

and you join the context

[tough fable]

:-;

[pale belfry]

why not subsume roar?

the hell?

[grave cloak]

and at that point just mod away the tox 🙄 but okay yeah sure keep your tox for whatever the reason

[pale belfry]

lmao

again, what you yapping about

i didnt ask you how to mod

[grave cloak]

I should ask you the same since you claim I know nothing

[pale belfry]

im using double DOT and you came nowhere and yapping some shit like why roar ?

[tough fable]

Is radiation any good?

[mighty flare]

Nawr

Only for like Eidolons you use it

[pale belfry]

mostly only necralist

[tough fable]

Radiated Reload you have failed me

[pale belfry]

some mod like this still useful

[tough fable]

lets goooo

[pale belfry]

give you extra fire rate and extra element incase you want gunCO

[grave cloak]

roar, the famous subsume ability that doesn't double dip DOTs. nah let's just use shock trooper and waste a mod slot for an augment 🧠

[tough fable]

I use that on my epitaph prime

[blissful verge]

Blah, no one awnser me what i ask for.

[pale belfry]

again, what are you crying about?

roar not the end of the game

dont cry buddy

there are sereral ways to play game

[grave cloak]

no one's crying lil bro, but if someone calls you out for a shit build try not to deflect so fast

[pale belfry]

ah, my bad, you dont have that much subsume, lmao

[pale belfry]

no crying baby

🤣

[tough fable]

What about magnetic?

[mighty flare]

Good

[pale belfry]

great to dealing corpus

overguard unit

PT run need it btw

[tough fable]

pt?

[pale belfry]

Profit Taker boos

[tough fable]

ah

[mighty flare]

Boos

[tough fable]

spooder

[blissful verge]

Roar its like factions mod, this helminth increase the status damage and Shock Truper Only applies eletric.

[grave cloak]

"don't have that much subsume" I have all the subsumes I need, no one but you is literally subsuming an ability just for an augment that wastes a mod slot
joever 🥀

[pale belfry]

mostly should use in ability frame

i would use xata over it

[blissful verge]

Yes.

[pale belfry]

prove it baby

[blissful verge]

But, roar increase ALL damage.

[tough fable]

;-;

fighting

[pale belfry]

make a video, from this chat till in game, make sure you are not taking someone video

[blissful verge]

Xata its for primary, lets be real.

[pale belfry]

depends on your build

not really primary

[pale belfry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccHJy6Tgb64

[blissful verge]

Secundary too.

[tough fable]

Roar is lame imo. I get its good but its not funny or unique because everyone uses it

[velvet pulsar]

Archguns too

[blissful verge]

Xata Only applies void, but void isn't that good.

[velvet pulsar]

Does the SC boost from her 1 work on Vulcan Blitz?

[tough fable]

Xata's Whisper? I put it on my melees

[velvet pulsar]

U r not aware about xata blast synergy

[blissful verge]

Its like 10% of vulnerability damage on proc with a 10 procs Max.

[pale belfry]

xata is about stealth dmg

you could watch my video

[velvet pulsar]

U started talking about Tau now

[mighty flare]

Tau is status vulnerability

[pale belfry]

xata work like zephyr funnel cloud, multiple dmg source

[tough fable]

Caliban my beloved

[pale belfry]

iirc, there is few people on youtube actually explain how xata work

[velvet pulsar]

Imma try Xata Caliban Vulcan Blitz one day

[upper ingot]

Does anyone have a build for xaku prime?

[blissful verge]

Ooh, yes i got confused.

[velvet pulsar]

Exactly

[tough fable]

idk what vulcan does

[velvet pulsar]

And unfortunately looking at the differences in this chat, I say many more are confused too

[velvet pulsar]

Blast damage based on enemy hp

[pale belfry]

it is scaling on enemy HP

that means you could boost a lot dmg with volcan blitz

[grave cloak]

you bore me. here. even have my ign and my date/time.

now try to come up with something interesting

[velvet pulsar]

Tau enables this to deal blast status too
Then xata can synergize with that proc

[pale belfry]

65/74, lmao

[grave cloak]

missed one

[grave cloak]

#builds-discussion message

[mighty flare]

65/74 🥀

[tough fable]

more than me lol

[grave cloak]

about 40 more than I need tbh :kek:

[pale belfry]

go ahead, cry more

[tough fable]

:/

[pale belfry]

jUsT uSe RoAr

[grave cloak]

can't hold the same standards?

[pale belfry]

you dont even know what roar do

[grave cloak]

go ahead, prove it's your account as well

[pale belfry]

lmao

[tough fable]

why

just

why

[velvet pulsar]

<@&778745217037238293>

[pale belfry]

nuh uh ?

🤣

[tough fable]

omg its me

[grave cloak]

think you pinged the wrong person

[pale belfry]

sit down

[astral tinsel]

ngl you're both being annoying as hell

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah

[grave cloak]

congrats you have all the subsume, and you're still crap

[pale belfry]

uSe RoAr

[grave cloak]

yeah sorry for using a good subsume

[astral tinsel]

roar is pretty good though

[grave cloak]

next

[pale belfry]

bro entirely gameplay is around roar

[grave cloak]

yeah sorry for using a good subsume

[tough fable]

gas any good?

[grave cloak]

next

[astral tinsel]

depends

[pale belfry]

and he tell people dont play like him, he gonna rage

[tough fable]

i'm listening

[pale belfry]

survival level cap. Chinese people really insanely love level cap survival

[velvet pulsar]

I need ur help

Gas is currently not working at 100% intended power

[tough fable]

With?

[pale belfry]

it is mostly grouping enemy

[grave cloak]

and when did that happen? or you just gonna lie

[tough fable]

Ask someone else lol

[tough fable]

cool

[rocky pollen]

Lets stop being aggressive towards each other please.

[pale belfry]

Did i ping you to ask that i should use roar?

[mighty flare]

Hi juice

[pale belfry]

okay, imma run

[tough fable]

so it would be good with Mag?

[pale belfry]

[velvet pulsar]

Gas status lingering clouds are bugged:
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1468875-gas-status-clouds-are-bugged-after-the-main-enemy-is-dead/

[mighty flare]

Mag has her own bubble she doesn’t really need it

[grave cloak]

your own screenshot that you provide I didn't tell anyone to "play like me" in your own words
holy shit you're just a liar :kek:

[mighty flare]

You’d be better off running a bubble juicer

[rocky pollen]

This is a builds channel, unsolicited advice is sometimes given.

At the same time, there's no reason to criticize others for using certain abilities, weapons, or frames. Builds are builds.

[pale belfry]

good but also not. Since she should multiple dmg source from her skill

[solar reef]

mag already has two grouping abilities

[velvet pulsar]

They lose dmg credit and dmg inherit.

[mighty flare]

Screws over pax seeker too

My gas lavo build ruined

[velvet pulsar]

I really wish DE fixes that

[mighty flare]

Also makes the Vesper weapon really bad

[tough fable]

So Gas itself groups itself? It doesn't just hurt enemies in a group?

[mighty flare]

No it’s just a lingering aoe

[pale belfry]

gas dmg scaling on group enemy. It is used to

[velvet pulsar]

It multidips faction damage bonuses during grouping
But the lingering clouds don't

[mighty flare]

You need to get some source of grouping to make it stronger

[rocky pollen]

Just to make sure I understand, you're saying conditional damage buffs (like "damage to corpus" mods) functionally disappear if the original enemy dies, even if the next enemy that walks into it is in fact, of the group that should take more damage (say Corpus)?

[astral tinsel]

nah vesper still rules

[tough fable]

like mag

[pale belfry]

that is why people play gas on survial level cap, since they could group. by standing on 1 point

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[mighty flare]

It loses the majority of its damage after the initial enemy dies

[solar reef]

i ususally run gas on my dread incarnon for my mag blood alter builds

[mighty flare]

It’s screws the weapon over

[rocky pollen]

Just to check, as I'm not very well versed in Gas (I get visually distracted with gas clouds - I stick to Viral strats) - is this different from how it worked before?

[tough fable]

I use mag and the nataruk

[mighty flare]

The initial target doesn’t die in that scenario

[velvet pulsar]

No. This bug existed for a long time.

[astral tinsel]

The bug sucks ofc, but the +300% carries it imo

[mighty flare]

Bug existed for long time now

It’s been like that even when I first started years ago

[rocky pollen]

Got it. I'll see if it's known, etc. - but I will note that we usually pay really close attention to stuff like this, so there's a chance that's very difficult to change with how it's coded.

[solar reef]

i use the dread to benefit from its phenomenal augment

[pale belfry]

btw, can you consider take a look into it and send to the dev team? A little UI overlay since people get over hundred shards. I think a lot people like me tho.

[tough fable]

ngl idk what that is. ik the bow

[rocky pollen]

Sure, I'll pass that along.

[mighty flare]

Nataruk isn’t good weapon with Mag, it doesn’t have the multi hit of other inf body pt weapons

[tough fable]

ohhhh ok. its all i got rn lolwords

[velvet pulsar]

I am well aware that the moment this bug is fixed a lot of overpowerful synergies will open up, but atleast gas will be as famous as some other elements for decent amount of cases.

[pale belfry]

imagine we got kuva jat kittag, must be a new meta

lmao

[mighty flare]

I’d want coda embolist

[tough fable]

words

[pale belfry]

dont know what pablo gonna play with us this year. Last year was tenet xoris yeah?

Lmao, he already we never win that competitive

[velvet pulsar]

Once Gas gets fixed, Cyte-09 gas resupply acid shells and gas okina will be perma self sustaining

[mighty flare]

Oops

[mighty flare]

The exergis or felarx are much better options

[tough fable]

IMy best weapons are prolly Braton, Epitaph and Masseter prime

[velvet pulsar]

Currently Gas Acid Shells perform much worse than Electric:
https://youtu.be/r-MRd7eNMRI?si=xBE8vAFto9uMkluh

[solar reef]

with its incarnon and a grouping ability, its super easy to hit multiple enemies

[tough fable]

corpus shotgun?

[solar reef]

so it works super well with a blood alter mag

[mighty flare]

Yes

[solar reef]

similarly great weapons for it are the tenet plasmor

[tough fable]

oh cool. also charge your phone lol

[pale belfry]

Imagine DE actually make a tenet xoris, lmao. He did trolling us about hoping we could win a part of GOTY competitive.

[tough fable]

oki

[velvet pulsar]

The competition is tough

[mighty flare]

Technically not best option and is harder to acquire

[pale belfry]

yeah, pablo already knew that

so he put tenet xoris as a bet

lmao

[solar reef]

but its a generalist weapon that lots of folks DO acquire at some point

so its nice to have a comfortable weapon option that people may be super accustomed to

[tough fable]

I am unable to access warframe and stay here lol

[tough fable]

ew. lich-esque enemy

[mighty flare]

Exergis is from ze market and felrax is from zarimen, both are technically easier to access

[tough fable]

i have exergis bp

[solar reef]

this is true, but not everyone is interested in these two weapons on other frames. A lot of people will get the Plasmor out of notoriety.
It’s convenient to have a weapon that works phenomenally in every situation, especially when it does synergize with mag to an extent

Because the Tenet Plasmor name gets thrown around a lot

[mighty flare]

It does?

Huh

[solar reef]

yeah, its always been popular, even before the tenet versions

naturally, a big energy shotgun will

[velvet pulsar]

I need a list of such weapons for navigator ivara

[mighty flare]

There’s definitely a list somewhere

[mighty flare]

Oh nice, you should get the making it then

Big upgrade from Nataruk for mag

[velvet pulsar]

Like so far the best contenders have been Falcor, sigma & octanis (low dmg), continuous aura dmg like grimoire alt-fire or zenistar disk, tenet arca plasmor and everything else which has tendency to bounce by default

(specifically in context of ivara, not mag)

[solar reef]

penta is also pretty fun on it, though not as good as formerly mentioned weapons

significantly worse, even

[tough fable]

Fair but it doesn't have much range. The nataruk does and it does okay for where I am

[velvet pulsar]

While I have heard praise of latron incarnon with magnetize, does it multi hit?

Wait ofc it does, it has bounce

[mighty flare]

The weapons are used for different purposes, not really comparable

[velvet pulsar]

Though it disappears in case of ivara

[solar reef]

good for quick clearing

i wouldnt use it in a duration build

probably really good with a breach surge bubble build

[pale belfry]

pretty hate to use ivara

[broken sparrow]

https://overframe.gg/build/new/7332/dual-coda-torxica/?bs=WzEsNzMzMiw0MCwxLFtbNDE2LDEwLDNdLFs0MDQsMywwXSxbNTUxOCwxMCwwXSxbNDA1LDMsMF0sWzQxMywxMCwxXSxbNDE1LDEwLDFdLFs1NTE3LDEwLDFdLFsyNTAxLDgsMSxbWzcxLDAuNzQzMDM4MDA0MzQ4NDU1OF0sWzc1LDAuNDMyODYyNzY0MTg4MDY1N10sWzcyLDAuNjA3MDcwNzA3MDcwNzA3XV0sWzgwLDAuMDkyNTkyNTkyNTkyNTkzMDZdLDgsMSw0NF0sWzQ0NSwzLDBdLFs1NTEwLDUsMF1dXQ==

[pale belfry]

very broken but i really hate the playstyle

[velvet pulsar]

Also latron incarnon can use Mending Shot despite being AoE, because base version is allowed to

[broken sparrow]

tried making a toxrica build with the riven i have

how can i improve this

[velvet pulsar]

I appreciate playstyle uniqueness

[solar reef]

-status chance is tragic

[pale belfry]

i rather use limbo

[broken sparrow]

yeah true

im going to use voruna so i dont think status matter that much anyways

[pale belfry]

this build is fine, but except the riven

[broken sparrow]

i mean i can always reroll for smth better

i still have like 300k kuva left

[solar reef]

i would honestly just replace it with something for straight fire rate

not worth rolling a riven for it imo since it has such low dispo

[velvet pulsar]

I wouldn't call limbo an alternative unless spy but I understand what you're talking about

Though she has different playstyles

[solar reef]

no need to worry about a secondary anyways then

i personally havent even built the secondary I use on her

[broken sparrow]

yeah true

[velvet pulsar]

1. Well of life concentration arrow
2. Navigator shenanigans (can be adjusted for perma active time)
3. Melee without breaking invis

[solar reef]

its just there for the incarnon perk of Hate

[broken sparrow]

i only use funny weapons on voruna anyways

[solar reef]

I run her with dread and despair for the 30 initial combo

[pale belfry]

she is perfect to use xata stealth playstyle

but anyway, personally dont like to play her

[velvet pulsar]

I've only ever seen that just for zenistar

Oh wait headshots

[tough fable]

fair

[pale belfry]

not only zenistar

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah right headshots

[tough fable]

why is steflos cheeks

[velvet pulsar]

It's a meme
U can grow a sun on ur screen

...a sunscreen?

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-flashbang-qorvex-gif-9568855476800655402

[velvet pulsar]

The true "His Luminescence"

[mighty flare]

DE has a dart board on whether a weapon will be good or not

Steflos didn’t even make it on the board

[pale belfry]

my most lover mod

an art

[velvet pulsar]

Honestly Citrine's melee should've been voruna's signature

[velvet pulsar]

Peculiar Audience =

[solar reef]

it fits into both niches of her 3rd as well

[velvet pulsar]

= Truman Show

[solar reef]

Voruna’s signature should have been a hunting spear like edun

[pale belfry]

both doesnt look good

[velvet pulsar]

A wolf, using that

It's like dog evolved by replacing humans

[solar reef]

shes not a dog, shes a hunter with dog companions

what more fitting than a spear

[velvet pulsar]

Dog are evolved wolves

[solar reef]

yeah, thats my point though

she has hunting dogs

give her a hunters weapon

[velvet pulsar]

Oh u consider her as beastmaster

I consider her as one among the pack

[solar reef]

but yeah a big hammer isnt suitable for an assassin hunter beast tamer character imo

[quasi citrus]

is primed mag warp good enough on the soma?

currently on this but idk if i want a bane mod

[solar reef]

she should have had something like a spear or claws

[velvet pulsar]

Claws make sense

[solar reef]

a pair of claws that found a heavy attack niche would be really cool if they did it right

[velvet pulsar]

Claws with movement trait

[solar reef]

she doesnt need movement since her 2 does that

[velvet pulsar]

1

[solar reef]

using it on voruna lets her use multiple passives

[velvet pulsar]

Unless u mean casting 2 to move enemy to enemy

[blissful verge]

Why do i want to use CO in influence builds If i don't have more than 4 status in an enemy?

[quasi citrus]

pet priming?

[velvet pulsar]

Speaking of, ETA gave me voruna but the modifiers don't encourage me to play

[blissful verge]

Only Panzer.

[tough fable]

depression

[velvet pulsar]

Even 2 status effects is 160% damage
Which is almost equal to primed pressure point

[blissful verge]

5% less.

[solar reef]

you also do the IPS status

[velvet pulsar]

And then this

And then squadmates

[blissful verge]

What Is IPS?

[tough fable]

also why can i not get rid of the azima

[velvet pulsar]

Impact puncture slash

[blissful verge]

Ahhm, só those status count...

[zealous rapids]

even lifted/knockdown count as statuses

[velvet pulsar]

Even though influence doesn't spread IPS, the main target getting that CO damage will be spread by influence

[blissful verge]

I was thiking its only for elemental ones.

[zealous rapids]

and hidden nukor status: microwave

[solar reef]

tons of niche things count as status

[zealous rapids]

when it's only elemental status, the description says that, like with influense arcane

[velvet pulsar]

It's the reason why I use CO on my Exodia Contagion zaws after influence arrived

[blissful verge]

Blah, im trying to make my build proc the influence but somehow its happen inconstantly.

Burning hate and Galvanized Elementalist should do something, but when i put 887% of CC even without hitkill still inconsistent.

And they gone again.

[clever fiber]

So, anyone have reccomendations for Weapons that work well with Garuda's Breach Surge Talons combo?

[velvet pulsar]

I guess Shedu with Primed Fulmination?

[chrome badge]

Shitdoo mentioned???

[velvet pulsar]

(it buffs the reload pulse instead of regular shots)

[clever fiber]

DO you think its better to go with something that does a lot of tiny damage or one big damage?

Im still kinda confused on how to properly use the combo lol

[chrome badge]

Lots of tiny dmg

[clever fiber]

Ok so then I know this is gonna sound like a shitpost

I do have a Prisma Grakata

[velvet pulsar]

Are u trying to make a breach surge spark chain reaction or a wide range shenanigan?

[chrome badge]

Oh god

[clever fiber]

Think that'd be good?

[chrome badge]

Grakata is like a meme weapon that requires recoil suppression

[clever fiber]

The chain spark reaction, love watching an entire room just die in a spree of fireworks

[chrome badge]

You could make it work but like why

[tranquil plover]

does someone have a nova build that can go upto lvl cap or atleast eda/eta

same for mag, they are just about to finish in the foundry

[velvet pulsar]

Probably something with blast status and high damage AoE

[mellow nest]

Protea with Breach Surge is cool

To shill a bit more for her

[clever fiber]

Angstrum maybe?

[velvet pulsar]

Maybe

[clever fiber]

Ok secondary question

Best arcane for Nagantaka Prime?

I have a pretty solid Riven for it so I was thinking of doing Primary Blight and going for Slash and Toxin procs

[chrome badge]

Is it hard to grind primary blight?

[clever fiber]

I don't mind having it take awhile

Im just thinking if its worth the time lol

[severe bough]

Not really just need the standing then your good

[chrome badge]

Standing?

It’s a duviri arcane?

[severe bough]

Ups forgot

Then tbh just buy it

Farm the plat

Duviri is ass

[chrome badge]

I’m not eager to farm hespar bladessss

[clever fiber]

👉 👈 I like Durviri

[severe bough]

Your Special

[velvet pulsar]

Primary Blight is relatively easier to max

[tranquil plover]

how do i build novaaa

[severe bough]

https://overframe.gg/build/739390/

[tranquil plover]

tysm

[mighty flare]

not really worh unless using like Saryn but even then you'd mod for viral

[nocturne sage]

Hi, I have a question but idk if this is the correct channel to answer. I don't which school focus should I pick next. I've already completed madurai but idk which school should be my next choice

[sick rivet]

torid or acceltra better to use

[analog stirrup]

Have incarnon for torid? If yes, then use it. If no, use acceltra

[sick rivet]

ok ty

[analog stirrup]

Unairu if looking for alternative ways to armor strip and stagger imunity.
Vazarin for invulnerability shenanigans.
Naramon for easy melee combo.
Zenurik for slow and energy...

Up to you, just deppends on what you need or want from them.

[nocturne sage]

Ty I plan to have all of them completed but idk which order to do. I think I'll do unairu, naramon, vazarin and zenurik with that info

[steel flicker]

best frame for farming? Was thinking Xaku maybe?

[severe bough]

I still use nekros but here better options atlas ore gaze is good

[steel flicker]

cool thanks!

[worthy siren]

whats a good build for the regulators? specifically for ETA

[chrome badge]

How so :3 I need to get it

[mossy rapids]

is the felarx worth investing a catalyst into?

[gray iris]

yes

[gray iris]

just do vosfor caches

[chrome badge]

Felarx is great as an intro weapon to sp

[chrome badge]

Gambo

[fathom sky]

Cedo crying in the corner

[crisp merlin]

Which Warframe do you think would make the most used out of the grimoire? Like I want to make the grimoire a main weapon

I think if I use any alternative weapon it would be a staff that has an ALT fire

[forest jetty]

Yes, however the direct grind of the same involves some RNG for directly dropping, yet otherwise has a pity currency backstop, unless I’m mistaken. I think it’s from Tyanna Pass runs (or something similar), though I’m unsure what Rotation.. Nevermind. I forgot it’s a Duviri Arcane. Vosfor is the best route. Acrithis is a mighty slow pity currency backstop. The only slightly better pacing for the direct grind is Duviri Experience Thrax Gates, but that’s still quite slow.

[chrome badge]

Still from duviri

[mighty flare]

Probs like Ivara

[granite ginkgo]

harrow + scourge prime

[quasi citrus]

are incarnons bugged and not work with gun CO mods bc i expect incarnons to still not work properly

shoiuld i put encumber and take the galv CO buff for the incarnon mode

[mighty flare]

What incarnon is this? Dtox?

[quasi citrus]

oh sorry

[quasi citrus]

lato

[vapid bloom]

is this middle hate riven mod a good one?

[steep bay]

which one do i take?

[mighty flare]

Yeah you don’t use encumber, just regular dead head

Or outburst

[fathom sky]

They do work with it (usual AoE restriction applies) BUT the weird part comes from any +DMG they gain from Incarnon bonuses NOT being used in calculating CO damage.

[kindred lion]

how does khora's damage work now? we used to afford running low strength thanks to accumilating whipclaw but now we can mod the whip would it still be the same? no need for a damage mod?

idk what i was on but the build i currently have has arcane fury, accumulating whip claw, and primed pressure point, that's too much isn't it? what do you guys suggest i take out?

these are my builds for her

[solar reef]

its ok, wouldnt buy it

buy a trash one and just roll it yourself

[vapid bloom]

bet

[queen parcel]

how do i make a good nekros loot build?

[forest jetty]

Before it was made a proper Exalted Weapon, Khora’s Whipclaw would use a player’s equipped Melee Weapon for stats and such, including, if I’m not mistaken, the state it was in with Blood Rush and such procs. If I recall correctly, this was further enhanced if the player was running an Incarnon Weapon and had the Incarnon Mode activated.

Now that this is no longer the case, your Whipclaw needs to be modded and so on from the standpoint of fighting from a deficit. You probably can throw the kitchen sink at it, and still not regain its full former potential.

[lethal bison]

have anyone tried reaper + blessing on excalibur for a tank build

[solar reef]

its just equilibrium and his augment

thats all there is to lootkros

everything aside from that is just comfort

IE, how much range do YOU want it to have, stuff like that

uber high range is awesome until your teammates obliterate things across the map and kill you doing it

but its preference

loot generation itself is just based on the weapon you use

use whatever weapons dismember enemies the easiest

[warped osprey]

current latron prime incarnon build is this good

[hexed sundial]

galvanized aptitude doesn't work on the aoe effect, and ideally you would remove serration because you're already using primary merciless, other than that, it looks good, i would go something like vile acceleration or hammer shot over serration

[charred gale]

Galv aptitude is multi co on the direct hit tho

[warped osprey]

Alright

[charred gale]

Worth keeping cause of that imo

[hexed sundial]

ik but i just personally wouldn't run it

[charred gale]

👍

[gloomy kindle]

A bane mod will increase the damage even more

[warped osprey]

What about thermite round?

[charred gale]

It already has innate heat

Kinda a wasted slot

[warped osprey]

Alright

[hexed sundial]

yeah but alot of people dont like banes

[gloomy kindle]

unfortunately a lot of people sleep on these mods

[charred gale]

Most ppl are just too lazy to keep swapping

[near vortex]

Ripkas with the augment especially

[twilit crest]

Ya it ain’t good

Excalibur is just squishy af