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True. If there was one good thing about the orokin was the. Normalisation of queer folk
Loid is brazillian?
Skinny legend legs
Loid can also use a warframe shotgun pistol without breaking his arms
"Hes skinny" my ass bro that dude got a sleeper build fr
"So long, gay Wally"
He really is out here just being reckless and going to just murder the fragmented one
I wish I could trigger it myself
wrinkletwink
Theyve patched out some things with loid silently and it makes me so upset
Wrinketwink fr
double jumps from pure doomed yaoi
I can no longer bully Loid into random places when you first meet him
He also has unique animations when waiting
with enough doomed romance, you will have the power to vanquish 7 ancient evils
I do like to collect those
Spring loaded knees
I'd try it myself but unfortunately I'm too well-liked
Ultrakill, Doom, warframe
supposedly
Fallout in general
Yk keep complaining and imma just call him Skinny Loid™️ permanently lol
He's literally the thickness of a graham cracker
Stacking doomed romance for a buff
Turns out it just leads to mental instability
The opposite of the power of friendship
Worth it
no it's not I already have that as my base buff
I also want to make a lot of things
Actually no i don't I just want to stop being bad at Deadlock
Git gud bro
It's my first MOBA
what's deadlock
I'm losing my mind
oh the valve hero shooter
New Valve game in development
It's a moba with hero shooter elements
And it has stuff from uhh "movement shooters"
Being able to slide and walljump and whatever
oh a moba
Thomas loudly disagrees over people thinking loid is skinny. Which he is. Lol
Loid is just dried
more like slim
yeah lean/slim
He has like no hips like at all, which. Is something skinny people have. Because they dont have muscle mass on their abdomen
skinny is nekros
Skinny is og Albrecht from the statues
Nekros has the "I took steroids but never worked them out" build
So a drug addict build lol
Lean and slim are synonyms for skinny quite literally
Massive body but no muscles
And since it's my first game of that type
I'm getting completely obliterated
we talking literally straight from the English dictionary or how it's actually used in the past....few decades
Design and visuals and overall feel are so good though, it's totally worth it...

I feel like once it comes out it'll have as much cultural relevance as tf2 thanks to that alone
cuz no skinny ain't nowhere near synonymous with lean like fr
Whatever Loid's build is
Its a sleeper build.
I hope he has a couple primed mods
We got canonical stalker build once
Now we need canonical Loid build
To settle this matter once and for all
Im not sure humans can have mods
What warframes are, again?
Infestation, mainly
Well they are people at base
I'm sure you can mod a person if you have the attitude for that
Maybe a loid proto or some shit
Aptitude?
Corpus needed a mod segment for something
For weapons probably
Mods go into weapons and other equipment, not the person
Still, if I can swallow a trading card, Loid also can
Have you seen what mods look like as loot
I say as I cringe from eating the pomegranate I just got
Primed Flow
They're just packs of cards
That's why you can use one multiple times
My gluttony knows no bounds
Wrong one
You take the mod drop, you open it and its just a bunch of cards in a roll
Noone will get hurt if I eat one
Reckon if I cut a trading card correctly I could use it for a cigarette
Doubt it
Smoking that archon continuity
Trading cards aren't very smoothly malleable
Id need a like. Exacto blade which i dont know where are
But i think if I cut very shallow grooves I could make it bendy enough
You'd also get executed if you pick the wrong card
Eh they can eat dirt
Lean and slim are quite literally both in the top 5 synonyms for skinny in the thesaurus man
Someone get bau, we need confirmation
Synonym =/= exact meaning chat
No way fatless is used more than scrawny
Because we could also use . Scoop as a synonym according to that 
I only know about "scrawny" because of Elden Ring
I'm not sure if you know how a thesaurus works bc thats not what that means
I write too much for college to not know how certain words work. But at the same time
I do not type like it
WHAT.
Neither is it mine
It's like a third language I know
Congrats on styling on me JERK
Do you feel happy
Do you enjoy putting others down
Do you want me to grovel to your superior intelligence
This is common scrap lore at this point I'm the resident evil german
No you're just annoying sometimes
Sometimes
Scrap please dont put evil and german together like that
😭
putting gunCO on a miscellaneous unc
Germans are evil
I struggle with emotions in general
Don't make it everyone else's problem then
I am everyone else's problem
How unfortunate
Are Kuva Liches baddies?
No
Debatable
Sometimes
Too real
Yes
"Sometimes" WHAT
you may use it all you like
Depends on the overall roll
I'm far too lazy to have another reminder I'm on discord
Ah, you see an idealized version of yourself going defensive as funny

Anyways, I actually gotta go eat now
Cold isn't doing me any favors
Be safe box!!!

Burger🤣
You're talking like I have to murder prey for this
You basically do bc you have a cold!
Guys what do we think the lore is around Veldt Prime?
I ordered food...
Huh?
You gonna share with group?
Gun
Gun: golden
No Box needs it to recover 😠
So intriguing 🤔
get your own 😠
Is this a. Metaphor?
Brother speaks in riddles
Yes
This isn't a Metaphor, it's a learning opportunity. Let's take a look back and see what we can find.
The world around us is the best storyteller
True
Not using those gifts is a crime
Xata
burger fr🤣
Like how you're gonna hear a slight pigeon whistling sound around 2 am. The world is giving you a story bro time to go find it
You understand it Thomas
Of course I do metaphors are better than similies any day
This is so amazing lmfao
People who reject vastness of the universe and call it eldritch horror are just not open minded enough
wally sits someone down and says that
^^ I was about to say, wally fr?!
Clearly they dont understand that the universe isnt based around them and that they cannot deny the truth that we are ultimately insignificant
If you read someone like lovecraft then you realize that what he calls eldritch horror is like
A screwdriver shaped animal and a black person dancing
Bro is the riddler
LMFAOOOANDJEMC
Yeah cus lovecraft was a racist ass man lmao
This TOOK ME OUT
Bro wth is this 😭
I think the fear of knowing that we are genuinely alone in this world is worse
Based… also you’d have to have a mind to begin with. Luckily I got none so anything looks like pretty colors
Nothing matters so why feel like being called cringe matters
I stand by my opinion that charles le sorcerer is the only good thing lovecraft made
Just bc it's so stupid
Even if we are the only planet with life, there are still 8 billion people here. We are never alone
Even if we are alone in this world, my inner world is still alive and thriving
Also I have a cat so like
Who cares
Yeah and cat
Wooo cats!
Indeed. Bacteria
Eh. Alone in our awareness and understanding of the world
A bug cannot comprehend the idea of taxes
Yes, YOU are a BACTERIA in the vastness of my mind
loneliness is subjective
A mere SPECK in my existence that will be forgotten
tuvul:
That's some renegade angel stuff
Sounds like something Gabriel ultrakill would say
Sometime all we see, is not the whole… from any direction someone has your back
I just like being overly dramatic :3
You'd like Gabriel then.
He seems religious
There was. Some hella queer connotations in that last fight
Zealous even
Hes. A character
He comes to the realisation god is dead or no longer cares and proceeds to slaughter the orokin basically so
Hes cool I fw him
💀💀💀
Honestly what if your imaginative world in your dreams is really just small bacteria in your brain running around and messing with your neurons
So what?
... my neurons play doom 1993 constantly
Our world is also just a ball spinning in the void
I would take care of my little bacteria in there good
Don't be reductive to your own imagination
Thats all they do in my head. I can run E1M1 from the top of my head
Nah it's a bunch of random electricity
Stop being a sidekick in your own powerfantasy
Give them some icecream
its fornication. every gabV1el fight is fornication
They might freeze to death though
EXACTLY
I should play Ultrakill some day
Damn I am truly alone in my head then
Waiting on a better name for some ships I like man I cannot be stuck with Alloid when I had bangers like Divorce Eternal
You're not
What if… the ball is spinning in Wally?
Scrap is just being so reductive because he can't see himself as anything bigger than that
wallies all the way down
Mucking.
how to summon fragmented one
Unicron style bro
Wally spinning our planet like a basketball on his finger
You gotta take out all 60 eyes
sp fragmented one or just regular boss
60 eyes....
For a normal boss in both standard and sp it's just a node objective
oh there's a hole
60 eyes is the hardmode version with glyph rewards
I got to yap to my therapist about warframe yesterday thet was cool
what are they called officially. superbosses or hardmode bosses
Hardmode bosses
Superbosses
We love yapping warframe
I think?
Oh word
Idk i just remember Janus vor being one
peanus vor
I don't think they have a coined term
I though they were just secret bosses?
Because DE treat them as an open secret
Because we are getting hardmode perita bosses with Shadowgrapher and they have not officially said it outside of a couple nods
I hope one of the new honorias is freeing all ostrons during the new war quest
But that is a whole gamemode no?
Uh?
the guilty?
Maybe the way to unlock the guilty gamemode is to do all three modes on steelpath
im confused about what happened during the Whisper in the wall quest, can someone give me a run down?
Yeah the guilty is a whole new super hard gamemode that will be unlocked if you do something special
And it seems like that gamemode will have all bosses in a row
What I said is that with the update they'll add some sort of interactable map piece in Perita missions that unlock hardmode bossfights
Apparently
They said it is a "hidden prompt" on the perita map iirc. Or the comment above, lol
Oh like that
Yeah so basically like any hardmode boss before
Can't wait for hardmode vanguards be just
A bunch of metaslave builds
I hope there is something more to it? 😂 like I feel like they hyped it up pretty high
For it to only be a hidden prompt
It's not about the guilty mode
It's a separate thing
Well the prompt activates the secret boss and then would activate the guilty no?
After you complete all three most likely?
I worded wrong, but it's something that unlocks the separate guilty mode, that only people who got it can matchmake
pre-nerf kuva bramma wukong, revenant that keeps casting mesmer skin, enervate hildryn
Oh gotcha
Yo what if the secret boss turns it into ballas himself
We can clap his ass again
Bruh
Maybe I just have encephalitis?
No you're fine
Hell yeah!
you should really use a different euphemism, there.
I've the funny feeling that Dante Prime lore will also be that he literally just wrote it into reality.
Somewhere we come across a data slate deep in the lab that has his prime BPs lmao
Or just has aya for it
Dante Prime trailer is just going to be him writing his own Ao3 page.
It might have something to do with the hunhullus in chains unlock-wise 🤔
is there any sub stories about umbra after main one?
With Ekhein Prime
Concentrated power of yaoi
We're finally going to get a Grimoire being noticed by DE, count on it.
fun fact: the Grimoire continues to get attention via new frame animations, but Arm weapons have been basically forgotten.
They just release 100 skins instead of actual books
Tbf grimoire has plot significance
Arm cannons don't
I honestly don't care what weapons are "canon" and what aren't, all the guns are part of the canon.
Mm, isnt it that alt fire weapons typically dont get primes? Or was that for kuva weapons
Id also argue that the grimoire wasnt intentionally a weapon
I mean I haven't gone through them all, but that can not be the case that a gun with an alt-fire doesn't get a Prime version.
That's just silly.
That was for incarnons
Because same input
can't activate incarnon if it only alt fires
we could just rebind yeah
Some controllers have weird keybinds occasionally
Yeah custom stuff that isn't usually official
If DE wanted to, they could make it work.
What alt fire weapon do you want an incarnon for?
Actually you know what I hate
begins with an S, ends with a tug
Adaptive trigger controls. Or like. Haptic input is another word for it
I actually don't want any more Incarnons, because I'm sick to death of having to go through the bloody Circuit.
Like no I just want to shoot the gun please god my hands hurt enough
Can't you just disable that?
You can, but.
Sometimes it reverts or just doesnt have the same name
And it pisses me off
So bad.
Oop what did i miss?
Adaptive trigger controls and my hand hating them
Man i would have loved to be here to see that 😔
Sad violin time
I swear all i could see is literally you staring at this guy like this:
Me core tbh
It’s a Quantum Septum
Randomly disappears and reappears from the model depending on if it’s a cutscene or gameplay(?)
Aren’t removable septums a thing?
Or
No?
Yeah like almost all piercing
fell off and he has to reattach it
Or all piercing if you're brave enough
POV: Someone is pissing me off, so i call loid
Go my loid, go murder parvos
Yeah but its not meant to in this case, that part of his model just does that for some reason
whatever. go my Loid
Fish...
Oh and also add Ekhein to it
Like he's flying out wielding Ekhein
Ah lol
Hmmm need one with a mergoo instead
Pointless detail, but this is the kitgun Chipper uses in Archon Hunt Defences.
Any ideas of a name for it?
Makes sense
puncture-cutter
Gun™
mucker blenderr
When we take the Cathedral protoframes on dates using the photo thingie, are we technically taking them really there or is it some kind of simulation that they can hop on? I mean, Marie says that she talked to Ordis in the Drifter's Camp so...
Cathedrale protos aren't really trapped like the Hex/Roundtable are
They can ||enter the Necralisk so they're not bound to the Sanctum|| or other void pockets. This means they are likely able to get to the rest of the Origin System, including the Zariman, so they can enter Duviri from there. The only weird one I don't know how they get to is Lyon's Cold Below date.
Hope one day we get the chance to bring everyone to the "present" and use Drifter's Camp as the main base with a camp upgrade expansion
Could be
I have something that's been on my mind about Nokko and his design.
There's a good chance that what I'm thinking may be non-canon though.
Is this an okay place to talk about it? Or is there a better channel for this?
Here’s fine
Cool, cool.
So... I have absolutely no idea why I think this.
And I'm fairly sure it's not canon.
But when I look at my Nokko in-game, I keep getting this odd "He might be trans masc" vibe.
I have no idea what specifically is making me think that.
And again, I'm fairly sure this isn't canon.
But something about the design I have in these screenshots just feels... "trans masc" to me?
To me he just looks young
Mushroom soup
ye, i mean, you can headcanon him as trans if you want. trans or not he's jus a lil guy and as a mushroom enthusiast/botany and mycology student i adore him
Oh I agree. He's a cool mushroom dude who wants to play with bouncy balls, and that'll never change 😄
Also, thanks for reminding me that headcanons exist
I genuinely forgot they were a thing that existed lol
lol i feel it
He’s Yareli’s younger brother in vibes so it may just be cause he looks so young comparatively
But also yes headcanons exist
In any case, now I have the cool thought of Yareli and Nokko at a pride parade
Staunch defenders of trans rights, by use of living hoverboards and sleepy mushrooms if need be :p
So how exactly are Incarnon weapons are made?
Conceptual embodiment
Inbox message:
Incarnon Genesis
Hey.
Heard you been grubbing around in the Zariman's backyard. That little tinpot 'kingdom'.
Well, in my extensive downtime, I've been having thoughts about weapons. How I could upgrade 'em. Give 'em a sprinkle of Void magic. And guess what? The Void did what the Void does. Took my ideas and made them real. How about that.
So if you've picked up a… let's call it an Incarnon Genesis, why not? An Incarnon Genesis, bring it to me and I'll get it installed for ya.
Slaughter awaits,
Cavalero
PS: Yonta says I need to say this very clearly: I cannot adapt a weapon you do not own. I will need both the Incarnon Genesis AND the weapon it applies to. Understood? I am not running a charity here.
oh he is missing a finger
fairs @fast dew
is that why he hasn't just erased us from reality
because he can't until he's whole?
....is that why he's chasing Albrecht around
Lf help for start chart
in lore discussion? 
It is why he isn’t as powerful, without it he’s confined to conceptually embodied timelines
Aka he needs his Murmur, his Fragmented to tether such timelines so he can act
Albrecht doesn’t have the original as far as we know, Yonta said they were locked up iirc
I believe one of the originals was in Duviri on Scholar’s Landing at one point
maybe they want to start an exercise chart for their Operator.
Yeah lol
True! One probably was. Maybe yonta will be important maybe, she seems to know where they are. Maybe
Uhh yeah
So why did Adis eject the tenno when they lost transference but didn't do anything to the drifter who DIDNT have transference at the time
She has a better idea than we do lol
given that the purge precept happened in a dream sequence, it may not even exist
owke
Thats also assuming he can just do that
We dont actually know the scope of wallys power we just know hes strong
Depending on his exact origin he may not entirely know
Maybe
If he was purely born from Albrecht’s fear then he had full power for what
A few minutes?
Then he got the worst paper-cut ever, de-powering him
what actually happened to earth here
We tried to solve the techrot problem with nukes, it did not go well.
Drifter references the "Radiation Wars".
we tried at least 18 times
Which is why I say were assuming he can do that
In my opinion I think he may only be capable of what we think he should be
*at least 18
19ths time the charm
maybe a hint shouldve been gotten at the 17th war
Agreed
Just finished new war today. Holy shit what a peak game
wait isn’t it 1999 timeline
I actually mean the main universe one
That sounds like someone who has a gambling problem.
its the same timelome
1999 isn’t a different timeline
It’s literally just the past
That’s basically it
Bro unleashed the “🤔 “
Bro acknowledged the “🤔”
Bro underwent the “🤔”
Bro security-breached the “🤔”
Bro really got hounded for "🤔"
Bro "🤔"
I mean yea but someone also nudged a stone in the triassic period
How else do you explain animals in the hollvania zoo section of the hollvania tileset
aurafarmed too hard
Game universe is different from irl universe from the ground up.
Mr. Freeman is a multiversal canon event, tho
we do not talk about how scary as hell the infestation on deimos got
@fast dew why does no one talk about it
Because it's part of citrine grind
And nobody wants to talk about it
the what grind

Mm? Yeah its just infestation shit
Unleashed the infested on Deimos forever
Which. Is weird that wally hasn't tried to get their asses
I genuinely think the infestation is worse than the tyrannids and even the flood
Youd think that the tunnel of love would be Wally's biggest enemy
Node where you farm Citrine touches upon how some of this happened
And not just a tunnel of love. Void Tunnel of Love
It's standart procedure to ignore any overrun celestial body, see Eris for example
That crossed with duviri
Its proof that wally isnt the void yk
Nora Night is one of the greatest additions ever
Mhm. She's why we saw Nihil and put him in the toob
"the body still lingers"
I'd love to listen to a podcast
the way the stories are told are so cool
usually I get annoyed by these in other games but I actually really enjoy it here
Well. The oubliette nihil is in, is like. His own but yk
I wish we could play the nightwave parts tbh
Ill forever be upset that I missed the cephalites
what nightwave parts
There were these like. Campaigns? Stories? You could participate in nightwave
you can't access them anymore?
The Glassmaker, The Emissary and the wolf of Saturn 6
-# is it of the saturn 6 or Saturn 6
wolf of Saturn 6
I wish Wukong actually turned into a cloud
Not the interactable parts
its a location
Mm? Sick
I WANTTTT THE STORY OF THE WOLF :( SO BAD
Still no cephalites though 💔
nightwave no reruns will kill me
The cephalites are a niche bit of lore you see literally noone talk about and its balls
PLEASE DE, PLEASE GIVE WUKONG A SKIN THAT CHANGES HIS CLOUD INTO THE FLYING NIMBUS
Not fully, you can see the cutscenes, but the surprise allies/enemies (emissary), surprise boss (saturn 6) and surprise hol' up + crime scene puzzle (glassmaker) are gone
WOAH THE SARYN HUMAN LADY IS DIVINE
Someone just met Minerva lol
Yeah, thats her name, the Sayrn protoframe
Its Minerva
She has a loser husband and its neat
....can he fight?
Yk if I had a dollar for every time someone had a whelp of a husband in warframe id have at least 2 dollars
NO, CAN THEY ADOPT ME?
He's the frost proto 💀
Not much but it happened twice which is something
I'LL KILL HIM
And they're somewhat related story wise too
Both got screwed by Albrecht 
how many quests between jade and the old peace
Mm. None?
wait it's deadass the next one?
No you could've done it yoinks ago
where'd homi go they were just here
Technically yes? He calls you little guy so there's that (Drifter's the same height as warframes btw)
If I had a dollar for everytime Albrecht was Albrecht I feel I'd be a millionaire
Maybe we're just thinner than Velmnir... velminir... velmir....vlmr...
Screw his name i cannot consistently spell it
Velimir Volkov II
Recorded Albrecht moments or presumed Albrecht moments
Because one is significantly less than the other
Velma a mimir ||
I wonder what happened to
Velimir Volkov I
His father probably
Mrimrirmirmir.. the secnd
Kalymimimimimimi
Eepy kalymos
The war (quite litteraly according to the kim)
There are MUCH more complex names
Which is the worst part, I can spell weirdass names here but I couldnt spell his
Hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia?
Mm, Murrumbidgee for one
Talking about weird names and how my parameters for hard to spell names are really odd
Sigurd Felix Wolfgang Atreides
@fast dew hi
Yo Joel I got myself an Atlas prime set : D
during survival missions, Lotus says that we are to distract the enemy so that a "lone tenno operative" may raid the place
does she mean an operative that works with the tenno or an actual other Tenno
YAYYY
Thats a good question, its left ambiguous i think
Bacon prime 
wasn't that a flashback?
I might be schizo though
Rip
Yeah but nothing happened that’d make it so they’d suddenly just die
Alt f4 bro
not sure if I'm gonna build him tho
oh why?
gasp I can craft the kompressa prime
I just need....the receiver we'll see how this last radiant relic goes for me
Cause the builds I follow got variants and idk which one to follow
I'm gonna be honest I just wanna cosplay one punch man
there were a pair of gauntlets that came out with Atlas Prime right?
The tekko prime
I'll just grab a set of those and color em red
There being multiple gets mentioned in a KIM chat, plus Operations and a bunch of other stuff relies on their being a bunch of Tenno across the system at any given point
are the tekko primes good
not sure
KIM chat?
also the way the tenno work(children of the void tomfoolery), is the system largely unaware of that part?
Yeah, only a certain amount know
cuz the factions keep saying they've killed tenno before
I'm assuming they just call Warframes the Tenno
They mean the warframes usually
Loid seemed. Surprised at the sight of the operator, but i cannot find it on the transcript. I know he yells for us when the vessel goes to squish us
And I swore it was operator
They refer to warframes
knew it!
Lots of times(I think it was Alad?) They tried to perform dissection them as well
Xaku Prime is such a peak design...
Only be dumbfounded because there's... Nothing really of importance inside control wise
Wouldn’t they just find infestation since warframes are infested?
And they do, no one call them robots or mechanical-based names. Just puppets, metal beasts, devils, but no clanker or similar
although stalker might kill tenno
Nah, he has beheaded Warframes rather than killing children he gave up wanting to fight us in Second Dream because of that fact
stalker has never killed a tenno directly :)
they really do make it sound like he doess
He might as in he has the means yes, but he cleary hesitates to kill the actual child, only killing the frames (and colecting their heads but ||a dad needs his hobbies||)
we dont really know if he has the means, honestly
Anyone wanna help me speed run a hive for Alad V quest?
K, fair, void shenanigans. But mental instability plays some role in "taking the tenno out of comission" and second dream was an unique opportunity, in which he hesitaded
ballas did say "you cannot kill the devil" when referring to the tenno. We know that's wrong, because we know of tenno that died.
we nearly died from the hunhullus, somehow
It was just such a powerful imagery
I would've accepted my death just to stay appropriate for the moment
huh?
The "crucified" excal, the life of death confrontation
The context of two connected souls fighting over the survival of a whole species
oh
I would've died just to preserve the vibe
yeah, but how tf did we die
Symbolism 

We got the shit beaten out of us
or nearly die
A powerful image
yeah he's an idiot
so what? warframes get destroyed all the time
Yeah cus doom has similar stuff
tenno are mortal
You kinda should've waited 3 days to hit self revive, tbh
Yeah, but I mean us as in the tenno, iirc we are also hurt in that fight
how
Symbolism too strong
I maintain my stance that the operator would've died if ballas didn't yeet them into the void

I. Have a screenie of my mucked up operator somewhere
the symbolism transcends sensibility
Hey, we have conceptual embodiment
so powerful the tenno nearly died through the warframe
It's the same but from getting punched in the face epicly
had to hit the gently-cradled crucifix pose
The emotion, the symbolism, the strength of the moment
i mean god damn
You just die because that's what the eternal plan of the universe demands
right
can the eternal plan of the universe resurrect balls so we can murder him a few more times
Look at how messed up the operator is 
Monkeys paw curls, he is a protoframe now
ok
gonna kill him anyways
Looks. Kinda like internal bleeding
Symbolism
On the neck specifically
Ok sorry I'll stop
That looks like internal bleeding
mfw we're martyrs of senseless violence
ITS FOR THE SYMBOLISM
That's where the power is
Yeah its in the mitochondria
The symbolism of the cell
symbolism
The cat stands, the water keeps flowing
what if we were the most powerful war machines of a soon-to-die empire is depicted as a vulnerable, pseudo-crucified, resigned dead thing and we ended cradled the hands of another war machine. and what if we were both kids. and what if we were both martyrs of a war that doesn't even remember us. and what if we don't even remember ourselves
It's like orks in warhammer
wouldnt that be messed up
But with conceptual embodiment
this is why ballas' lower half was split btw. its for trhe symbolism
Not because we ruined his spine or anything
yeah nah
It's both!!!
Ballas and his weird freaky ass legs
Once again I bring up the idea that the skull on bonewidow is a replica of Mother's what do we think chat
more likely mother's mother, or grandmother
it's made in honor of the family's matriarch and before albrecht left, so it likely isn't gomaitru
The matriarch would be mother, not grandmother as she came into the family, and given Vilcor never met Gerivaine, I have my doubts its her
I don't think that prevents grandma from being matriarch...
Mother is the dominant side of the family
actually
The Entrati absorbed the Vorten family
Different reasoning but they both came to the same conclusion
Deep metaphysical link between narrative and gameplay
Its still so funny to me that grandmother has the balls to just call Albrecht. Albrecht.
We see daughter say his full name, but thats a different sort of thing
What’s up with the white tree roots in the orbiter?
arboriforms
present in orokin void and in the orokin derelict but infested
i thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiink its theorized that they carry power
or other such things
they're also around the rj reliquary
Mm, are they?
The reliquary part
yeah around the base
Nah bro I get that so bad
lemme get a pic
Damn my memory SUCKS
All I remember or the railjack reliquary drive is that its distinctively non Entrati looking tech
so they could be void energy conduits, sorta?
Mm, does the heart have them?
And operator room iirc behind the chair
Heart had thicker veins and arteries
Maybe it draws from the finger/us/void reservoirs somewhere, or it may be a secondary distributor? Heart delivers power to a main area, then smaller things deliver it to the actual place needed
likely, they're like
house wires vs the Heart's kilowatt-rated cables
mind that these things are also all over in the Lua walls
Thats. Exactly what I said 😭
ok ignore the or i'm sleepy
Fair
My meds are. Beating me rn so I get that
But i got brownies in the oven so I gotta keep myself up
-# at 4 in the morning
Where was Hunhow’s whereabouts during the old peace exactly?
We have no idea
hrmmmm
Our memories are still quite messy
It's Wally looking tech
Orokin tech based around Albrecht's own design i feel
The only one I can see being directly his would be the zariman railjack
RELIQUARY.
I feel Mother is the supplier
Since she supplied the lesson too
And fingers are probably only held onto by the Family
We can find a few in the labs yeah
Only place you'll find them, when they're not hooked up to smthn
I think the entrati had a hand in the zariman reliquaries, but didn't do shit with the railjack reliquary after a certain model perhaps
Yeah the giant obol covered ball says as much lmfao
That reliquary looks much more. Raw. Old yk
strangest design is the zariman reliquary tbh. such a dissonance and contrast from the rest of the zariman shape language
too kuva grineer
Albrecht also flat out says he put the stars within reach
screams early orokin to me
has the orokin void key shape but no gold chintz
Look up at the ceiling, obols
i know but its distinctly off
It feels more entrati, than generic orokin. Mainly cus obols but it is significantly different enough from the regular railjack
Im thinking its a earlier prototype deal
yeah but even more utilitarian than entrati
no gold at all
Which is why im thinking its a prototype, make it work, then make it good looking
THE SPIDER THING. what is that
Think the Entrati Family is still dysfunctional?
why do they have kuva grineer aesthetics in the zariman era
They absolutely are 
Maybe its. A later addition?
its so out of place. whats the kuva doing there anyway.....
After countless grineer invasions i wouldn't be surprised
have to sleep but GRR
Well the Queens are Orokin
Well, void and kuva are linked. So id imagine it has that as some reason
i dont think the queens had a hand in the Zariman 10
They had a hand in what Kuva Grineer wear
You mean the thing the grineer brought during the angels quest?
Oh word
oh my god i missed thst they brought it in

ok yeah problem solved

😭 🙏
Interesting, there's a shield
For some reason I almost never see Grineer as the event on the Zariman
Swear Parvos be sending in the troops more
Most defense targets have shields
that's prob the same thing
Yeah, but I mean from a lore standpoint
from a lore standpoint, I imagine the shields would be, y'know, shields
Im wondering why they felt it was necessary to add shields to something drenched in the void, as if the void isnt super dangerous
cuz if you damage the unstable void thing who knows what could happen
Probably that yeah
explosion jpeg
Oh my god the gifs are not loading LET ME SEND IT
is this another hint as to where kaya is? idk what she's referring to
i think she outright tells you
... the mercury relay.
yeah i already found her there, and then the day after, I recieve this
Yeah thats probably why
just her post-ending lines
oh. i thought she somehow made it into the operator room in the orbiter or the dormizone or somethign lol
She's just saying if you're in 1999 come to Origin if you're in Origin come to the Relay
what is this statue of neci doing hidden in isleweaver? i've finished it a couple of times and never had an encounter where I had to go to this area. some kind of puzzle?
Where is she in the Relay? I looked around but couldn't find her.
behind central statue, at the window
Which statue, or alternatively: what room?
oh yep found her, ta
was expecting more than one line of dialogue, but still cool she's there
She’s there cause Wally is driving her body around
Iirc it’s up high on a ledge in Scholar’s Landing
You are meant to kneel before it, akin to the Thrax statues that want you to do the same thing
Kneeling spawns an item crate
Ducky is alive hello ducky 
I know not how I am alive but I am 
There are more lines
I tried to talk to her 5 times, each one gave the same line.
So unless it's context specific in one way, the RNG for them is real bad.
What are the lore implications of the murmur growing thick lips after wally took control of Rusalka
Coincidence
Kneeling may also spawn a scuttler
Aww, baby :)
Does Koumei have any connection to Duviri? With her decree ability
Nk
No
Decrees for both are pure gameplay mechanic with no lore relevance to each other
only thing that matters is I LOVE GAMBLING WOOO
lore? koumei?
no I think u mean crippling gambling addiction
10000 relics opened, only 2 had what I needed type vibes
Because i wont let them take you from us
anyways I just remembered 1999 does romance stuff
should probably get into doing that
Only if ya want, it’s entirely optional
My best advice
Talk to ||Quincy|| for dating advice and treat them like real people
well I wanna do everything it has
it's a really fun part of the game, 1999 that is
noted noted
Who’s your top pick? 
hmmm
unsure since I haven't gotten far into the romance stuff
-# but arthur does seem like my kinda man, albeit a bit basic 
I was sold on ele but eventually got tired of her walls and ended up with aoi. Probably better for my psyche but talking to arthur became a bit more cringe
also god amir knows how to python?
this mf really IS a nerd
LOL
I wish you luck in your romance endeavors and in coming to know the Hex
We have 6 very good options
||and 3 meh ones||
Can I talk to them without romancing them?
It’s entirely optional, yes!
Good, I don't wanna accidentally do things. I've had that issue in other games.
If you don’t want to date them you even get a secret cutscene
It will specify when you can confess your feelings
At most you may get one or two flirting with you but you should be fine if you don’t advance
i think almost every choice that leads to dating will have a [Confess feelings.] next to it, yeah
I don't like romance stuff, I may be old but it always makes me feel icky.
perfectly fine, that's why its optional
Oh if you really want to ensure you don’t go down that road you could use the Kimulacrum website but I would recommend not using that for the first loop
For the Hex at least
||holy hell, i'm glad i never had the story spoiled but who was gonna tell me i could loose (for a little bit) my waframe?! scare the crap outta me when i thought i made the wrong choice going for the queens||
||wait till they get to TNW||

so i know basically everyone knows about the Hex symbols on their respective members, but ||I got curious about the Round Table, since I noticed Velimir (who DOES join certain missions) had them but not Flare (who... technically doesn't?)
sure enough, same was true of Minerva, (who did have one and does join) and Kaya (who doesn't join nor have a... definitive symbol)
makes me wonder, i suppose...
and also i guess sad not to have official loadouts for Flare/Kaya, lmao||
Flare has their signature Riot-848, at least
Which. Didnt Albrecht modify or smthn
fair argument, actually
suppose that makes Amir/Eleanor exceptions (or something, idk, they at least seem to be a little more acclimated)
Albrecht when it comes to making random ass weapons
also a flamethrower, but that thing's independant and they didn't ask for it, so idk if that counts
weird little thing
v forgettable weapon imo
So why did Adis eject the tenno when they lost transference but didn't do anything to the drifter who DIDNT have transference at the time
Tbf Eleanor was close to the war anyway, as a war journalist
What? Adis never interacted with the drifter
yeah Lizzie technically isn't in the loadout, as she's an ability
Looks very entrati.
haha mb
So why did ORDIS eject the tenno when they lost transference but didn't do anything to the drifter who DIDNT have transference at the time
😭 god their names are similar
purge precept happened in a dream sequence, so it may not even exist
Or ordis edited the purge precept to accept the same entity, not the void power aspect
interesting, so I guess its not explicitly explained
Some things just arent explained
drifter also would've shown up while the orbiter was already in stasis. not really able to purge them out of a ship not in space
Like why Albrecht has voidrigs in his labs if he left before Petros met Euleria
I am. So confused about that timeline.
That whole sequence was effectively a fever-dream imposed by the Elder Queen to break our mind so she could perform Continuity on us. That's why afterwards Ordis was worried that our mind was destroyed.
Of course, we resisted it thanks to Teshin's interference.
Yeah, a chunk of the protos speak a different language
I made a claim that she's the only one who doesn't
Lyon, marie, Aoi, Lettie. I think M and V would too, but that does come from them being. Spies n all
Probably Amir too
I haven't noticed arthur and eleanor speak British tho, but I never notice when people use ou spelling or specifically englando or americano words
Oh and Kaya is supposed to be Filipino, so she would too i think
I have a question. Do we speak something like common or is it called English? Also do the base grineer speak something different or are just too corrupt to understand?
I mean, realistically there isnt much difference between American english and British english, just certain spelling. So, if you can find them using colour, with a U, it would be British english
I caught M calling V something funny in what I think is Romanian
Also phrases, which in an AU with this different of an evolution can't be guaranteed
I steal phrases and spellings from both.
Idk if DE uses American english or British english in the game though, its only really noticble by the spelling of words, and thats. Not something you really notice
It is fun.
Im Australian, its only natural for me to use a mix of both
these are the named lands they come from, but there's also Gualica or however they'd spell that word for France
Gaule
there we go
Gaul is an old name for france, but like. really old
I forget if Marie calls the language Gaulique or whatever
Not 1899 old ykim
grineer and corpus do speak separate languages, but also speak the same language as the tenno
there is next to no linguistic drift between 1999 and the current origin system, so a lot of language stuff is hand-waved away
Wonder if the romani folk ever got to france
orokin naming schemes for all the funny guns and such seem like the only candidate
but most of the planet locations are what you'd expect
except for the dropped n of Lua
Literally no linguistic drift at all, somehow german survived
DAS DREADLOCK PROTOKOL
Based on Albrecht being called little Bengel by his mother, probably
when was Albrecht born? like, before people turned blue in the face?
or did he just not go with that fashion
He was blue once
And most of the frames have German folktale roots.
he blue himself and then got off the blue
Hes blue!
or do german folktales borrow from many more folktales?
a lot of frames are folktale based
He also refused to modify his arm
He was a weird orokin for sure
The other orokin thought so
Ehhh, Europe just kinda mixes together everything.
new loka sympathizer
They hate me, severely.
We don't know when Albrecht was born, but he is at least 2 centuries old
But we can't rely on that as any indicator that continuity was used, instead we should use the phrasing he has when quitting kuva
Loid also is just old as shit somehow. Even before cryo
The conclusion being folk just live for a long ass time now
but like Grendel? Germanic but not German proper
Kullervo? Finnish, German influence would be secondary in how the Kantele and Kalevala are written, but it is supposedly compiled from old Finnic folk tales
Wukong and Ne Zha? Straight up Chinese epics and mythology
I honestly love the fact that the Orokin were bookburners
it makes things way more interesting
They weren't exactly book burners, they just hated storing media like that. Suppose its more accurate to do it with aya. Once again, Albrecht being weird and collecting books and old poetry
I always wondered how he got the old poetry that Fib recites
It's funny to me that the name Fibonacci is represented but in CoH we hear scientific terms with made up names from Rell
I forget the phrasing but it's some einstenium stuff about FTL travel
"The sea rises, the light falls, lovers cling to each other, and children cling to us. The moment we cease to hold each other, the moment we break faith with one another, the sea engulfs us... and the light goes out."
Mm, this is. From memory, a James... Baldwin i think. God knows when it was published. I wanna say around. 1930?? Idk i just know the name
like it could be attributed to the same person or just a made up name or just a quote with no more reason to dwell
I just don't think it is proof that James Baldwin or whoever is canon
that would be a weird angle to chase
True, I think its moreso the message of the passage that is important anyway
Its, once again, telling us to love others
it tells more about the person or people who choose to conserve and quote it
Albrecht and his tortured love poetry hits once again
Fib says the quote, but explains that it came from Albrecht's collection
Fib is such a funny character
He is, his VA does so much random stuff
hate that fish /s
haughty fancy pants assholery
but then he's like
meek and pathetic and goes "I love you"
He is, hes cool. Too bad hes a nazi yk
the only cool nazi is a fictional nazi
wish he had more of the tattoos from his concept art
was it ever mentioned why those didn't get to the final design?
Should've kept the tramp stamp tho
Idk why, but it could be like. Time constraints? Or maybe to avoid over complicating the design
Neci is amazing too
single handedly (no pun intended) made smoking cool again
but only if it's the green stuff
I wonder why they had the eye of entrati on Viktor
Also you can like. Never see it, but he also has lip piercings iirc
no no
Hm what text?

