gameplay-discussion

[hushed marsh]

oh hey, 15

[old olive]

this is the most recent one. They were nice tho. I have no clue what the hell I sold them..but they were nice

[fleet dune]

hello, i know this is not the ideal place, but ehre can i find someone to help me on temporal arhmidea? the normal one?

[old olive]

#squad-recruitment

good luck :D

[fleet dune]

thx ]!

dont have access to this one

[old olive]

ahaha don't worry about that one then

[cyan aspen]

caliban is

so expensive wtf

[tidal plover]

What does my 1 WFM Rep say?

If anything

[indigo flax]

Is there a way besides archon shards that I can use to increase her sheilds

[cyan aspen]

👁️

[indigo flax]

I have that i just need endo to upgrade it

[old olive]

theoretically speaking it measures how trustworthy of a trader you are.

but poeple would have to use it first to have any relevance so it's just fancy number

[cyan aspen]

get that bread

[wanton cave]

i dont think ive ever looked at a persons reputation when trading

[lofty garden]

And back to Valana

[restive warren]

grab grab grab

[old olive]

I sometimes consider it

[indigo flax]

Im doing that, my nekros is doing his best rn

[restive warren]

Only time I looked at a reputation, is when I'd ask for x or y thing, wait 5minute for any type of answer

[vale cradle]

what is the fastest way to farm alot of endo ?

[restive warren]

Then if they don't respond I check their reputation and say "ah that make sense"

I don't message twice in most case.

[vocal elm]

if u dont wanna do the super meta stuff that needs special builds u can run hex bounties for a nice ammount

[restive warren]

I don't wanna seem annoying

[wanton cave]

just message the first 3 or so people and hope for the best

[restive warren]

I wish they communicate if they don't have it anymore but oh well

[vale cradle]

where are hex bounties located ?

[leaden obsidian]

Time to farm

[old olive]

last time I didn't respond withing the same SECOND they asked, I was told they already bought from someone else

[cyan aspen]

wait

[restive warren]

⛏️

[vocal elm]

are u new to the game? might be spoilers if ur not there yet

[indigo flax]

Use nekros

[old olive]

ALso this. This drives me up the wall.
If you don't have it, SAY IT.

[cyan aspen]

don't I just go precision intensify 😭

[vale cradle]

no just didn't do the real grindy stuff until recently im MR 15

[restive warren]

I'm okay with being ignored if it's for a riven, if it's an item, I doubt people get swarmed by people to buy x item

[vocal elm]

1999 bounties

[leaden obsidian]

Double pistol riv, potential for a lato

2 easy challenges

[tidal plover]

Yup IK.

[leaden obsidian]

Level 30+ defense while solo with it taking no damage

[lofty garden]

limbo!

[subtle lagoon]

Is the brakk good? I got a riven for it

[spare bane]

Yo

[keen lintel]

Ye

[supple willow]

welp thats all Ults finally gotten

[keen lintel]

But not for selling. Keep it for yourself

[lofty garden]

and now you just use vazarin

[placid turtle]

Thara is sick as hell though

Vexoric too

Lorak is just a weaker Vexoric in terms of function ngl

[somber spruce]

Is blazing pillage good?

[placid turtle]

I don't actually own Nidri or Cogron

[lofty garden]

If you want a passive hildryn without balefire, blazing pillage is good

[somber spruce]

I was gonna use both if it was good

[lofty garden]

I have an electric elemental ward hildryn build with blazing pillage and archon vitality. electrocutes and lights everything on fire

don’t really need it with balefire, unless you plan to use hildryn around infested all the time

[uneven python]

What do you think of Paris Incarnon? I think it's slow but it looks fun

[mortal escarp]

no reason just thought the loadout looked neat xd

[spare bane]

Just a stat stick for Kubrow

[spare bane]

It does look neat

[keen owl]

lol. wasnt even looking for it

[spare bane]

I mean it's quite of an semi ass, semi decent riven hahaha

[spare bane]

Oh a stat stick mean they just buff the stats of someone/something

That's it

[leaden obsidian]

I rolled nyx in the circuit, don’t know how to play her

[spare bane]

Press 1, then 4 to protect

[silver breach]

The best pet statstick in the game

[keen owl]

big status dont want you to know this 1 weird trick

[spare bane]

What's up with that photo tho

Paris Prime is just there to buff Kubrow fr fr

I'm just genuinely confused why I was replied to that photo....

I'm being tortured in the Information I do not have...

Aight fck it I'm asking him

[spare bane]

What do this photo mean? Why did you respond with this?

[restive warren]

[restive warren]

Prob asking you for plat idk

[keen owl]

so all it takes is a catfish egirl pic to break you huh

[restive warren]

https://tenor.com/view/sealyx-naked-gun-the-naked-gun-facepalm-facepalm-meme-gif-11743768702765397589

[spare bane]

It confuses me a lot hahahahaha

[mighty abyss]

idk if I should get citrine or do thermias for amalgam organ shatter

[obsidian forum]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-loki-series-bit-of-both-loki-clip-tom-hiddleston-gif-21748514

[spare bane]

I'm genuinely out here thinking what did that photo mean

[mighty abyss]

but they both take a lotta time tho 😔

[spare bane]

I answered seriously hahaha

[keen owl]

riven dispo scales the value of the riven when you equip it?

[old olive]

I accidentally bought a riven cipher with plat and set myself backa 20 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Why do my hands react faster than my monkey brain!

[obsidian forum]

I’m aware, I’m mid-Nokko farm with 2 full Arbuceps and 2 Nokko Systems with nothing else. But it’s worth it in the end. Especially with some of the Citrine Arcanes. Also, if you just fight Exploiter orb a few times itll speed up the Organ Shatter farm exponentially.

[spare bane]

Monkey react monkey do hahahaha

[old olive]

IT'S A GOD DAMN LECTA

20 plat gone FOR NOTHING

[keen owl]

arbuceps molly arbuceps

[spare bane]

https://tenor.com/view/there's-a-lesson-in-every-loss-leka-sodade-canada's-ultimate-challenge-we-learn-from-failing-203-gif-16983963359757709768

[old olive]

who the hell even USES A LECTA

[keen owl]

credit farmers

[old olive]

why

[mighty abyss]

true but almost every time I join vallis its either people leave after doing the first few thermias or someone's just afking

[keen owl]

secura

[spare bane]

Bro

[old olive]

expand on that

[spare bane]

Can anyone check what's the next color of the shard in the archon hunts rn?

[obsidian forum]

Grab a nuking frame and you’ll be able to handle it alone. I specifically like Hildryn for doing Thermia Fractures.

[obsidian forum]

It’s blue right now and red next week.

[mighty abyss]

Im on voruna prime 5 plat and a day left to do thermia 💔

[spare bane]

Oh what? Blue? Imma have to wait next week

[mighty abyss]

on top of thst my only other ones is follie (not built fully) mesa prime (same thing) dante (again no build) and excal prime

[keen owl]

*clicks minimize

[spare bane]

Bro just cOuntered that bish

[obsidian forum]

Thermia fractures come back. Don’t worry. And your progress is saved between events.

[old olive]

...well played

[mighty abyss]

well true, but isnt it a few weeks diff?

[obsidian forum]

1 or 2 between I think

[keen owl]

all new weapons get 0.5 dispo?

[spare bane]

For Hildryn parts, what is the exact enemy to beat in Thermia for it?

[keen owl]

karen mecha

[obsidian forum]

Hit rank 4 or 5 with Vox Solaris and I think the toroid drop from Profit Taker

[spare bane]

Hmmm...

[keen owl]

its exploiter

[spare bane]

I'm in confusion

Where do you really get Hildryn Toroid parts

[obsidian forum]

Isn’t it Lazulite toroids?

[silk arch]

Almost there

[spare bane]

Ye

[lofty garden]

uriel helm in nightwave shop

[restive warren]

[obsidian forum]

Lazulite comes from Profit Taker

[restive warren]

Yoink

[obsidian forum]

I think

[keen owl]

oh i thought hildry part drops. lazulite is exploiter

[lofty garden]

lazulite is exploiter

[spare bane]

Oh Nahhh...

[lofty garden]

crisma is pt

[keen owl]

god i got bamboozled

[spare bane]

Wait... Huh??!!!

OK now I'm confused more

[restive warren]

yes red morbs is from Pt

You may ponder the red orbs, it's morbing time

[spare bane]

The toroid parts for Hildryn

Lazulite

[keen owl]

profit taker

some good 10+ min bossfight for the unexperienced

[restive warren]

Ponder the blue morbs from Exploiter naow (Lazu yes)

Okay all orbs has been pondered we can go home now

[keen owl]

pro tip archwing helps with mobility greatly. i see people running to and fro her fractures and be like: 'why?????'

[restive warren]

The little spood morbs can pound salt like they should and will

[spare bane]

So exploiter, in Thermia then right?

[keen owl]

you still need to unlock the mission

[obsidian forum]

I just Gauss my issues away.

[spare bane]

Where?

[keen owl]

i think

[restive warren]

Reasonnable solution

[obsidian forum]

R5 with Solaris U then talk to Eudico and Biz in the planning room and select the Exploiter Orb mission. Make sure you have diluted thermia in your inventory or the mission won’t launch.

[coarse basin]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-gauss-gaussing-it-who-up-gaussing-it-gif-14469606097652453565

[spare bane]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-better-name-pending-bnp-ash-ninja-gif-24791893

[spare bane]

Oh nah....

[obsidian forum]

And then you also have to be rank 4 or five with Vox Solaris to get Hildryn blueprints.

[coarse basin]

straight up gaussing it rn, im thermal sundering my kinetic plating rn, im mach rushing my redline rn

[obsidian forum]

That’s also where Baruuk comes from

Unless you take ‘em from Duviri Circuit.

[spare bane]

I have the whole Hildryn parts in circuits cause I thought she will be an easy gain... But nah....

[obsidian forum]

The standing earning for Vox Solaris is easy, just run a bunch of Narmer bounties for the Isoplasts and trade that in for standing. As for Solaris U just run bounties and use debt-bonds and gemstones to get the standing you need.

Regardless it’ll be a multi day process and will suck, but it’ll be worth it in the end.

[keen owl]

is - projectile speed very bad for helstrum?

wait what even is helstrum

[eager linden]

Helstrum is companion priming weapon

[keen owl]

missiles huh neat

[floral osprey]

do archons still have 1 shot protection

[restive warren]

erhh

[somber cedar]

Hey guys what's up ust gotta aska nd want to know your the best way to do so. So, finally officially unlock EDA and ETA yesterday, and I'm slightly still a noob when it comes to this one. I know more I select the personal modifiers, the better rewards I get. So is there a sweet spot how many points I should aim for or is this a personal preference?

[floral osprey]

for eta untill you get all the peely pix you wana get all the rewards, for eda typically the last reward of 50 vosfor is relatively negligable but you want everything else

[somber cedar]

So essentially I have to use all the personal modifiers regardless of the frame or weapons I'm using then?

[lofty garden]

you can opt out of one

[floral osprey]

for eta basically, for eda you can change out 1 thing from the preselected options and modifiers

[lofty garden]

50 vosfor is pointless

[somber cedar]

Right right I get that. Seems like all this time I thought my frames and weapons can actually handle the actual EDA and ETA but I completely forgotten I was doing the normal one. Well then time to check my builds again. Lol

[blissful scroll]

what else do i pick

[lofty garden]

lato

[restive warren]

lato

[floral osprey]

paris is prty good

[blissful scroll]

i might spend some plat this week

to buy like every incarnon cuz they all seem interesting

[lofty garden]

don’t

lato has ricochet like you would not believe

[blissful scroll]

i do have lato vandal

[lofty garden]

lato carried me on the sister of parvos arbitration level last week on decendia

in 8 weeks, pick up skana and paris

[blissful scroll]

mkay

is lato vandal better than lato prime

[heady copper]

do u have the prime

[fluid blade]

i wonder why there isn't a second energy color slot like there is for this?

[heady copper]

because you didn't forma him ?

[fluid blade]

i did?

[leaden obsidian]

Lato incarnon is done

[blissful scroll]

okay so braton and lato mkay

[leaden obsidian]

Lato, skana, paris

[radiant knot]

Wonder what incarnon to take this week

[somber cedar]

Shade Prime or Huras Kubrow for Xaku or essentially any spellcaster frames?

[leaden obsidian]

Damn, 2 and a half hours till lato vandal is done

[somber cedar]

Speaking of the Braton and Lato Vandal farm they recently changed on the current update, if I remember correctly they made it to now have a chance of getting them every 2 rounds of sanctuary and elite sanctuary onslaught right?

[leaden obsidian]

Yes

[radiant knot]

I have a question, what's a zaw

[blissful scroll]

should i invest in shade or

[somber cedar]

How long ago did you farm it and how was it overall? I'm assuming it has better drop chance on ESO then?

[leaden obsidian]

It took me a bit, I bought the bp but I also wasn’t focus farming it

It only drops in ESO

[restive warren]

No forma in

[restive warren]

Are you sure? Or do you own 2 Nezha Prime, one has a forma and the other doesn't

[somber cedar]

OH gotcha. So i guess the longer you stay and more rounds you do the better then

[fluid blade]

let me check again

[fluid blade]

how can you tell if u've used a forma before?

cause i'm pretty sure i did in the past but this was years a go and i don't remember

[eager linden]

Go to the upgrade screen you'll see at the top

If you see no forma icon and a number next to it, it means you've put 0 forma on them

[fluid blade]

so i'm assuming that this means that i haven't.

[spare bane]

Ya u have no forma

[old olive]

yep. It would normally be right next to the mastery icon

[fluid blade]

good to know

thanks guys!!! i'll do that tomorrow and finally unlock the second color slot for energy

[heady copper]

bruh

[warm cloak]

Hi chat, i have a quick question to resolve here, when i reroll a riven, it changes the polarity of the riven too?

[coarse basin]

modular melee

[idle salmon]

any thoughts?

[leaden obsidian]

I bought the wrong potato

Ah whatever, I’ll grind plat tomorrow

[trim bobcat]

Goddamn it, i forgot to do circuit last week

[forest jacinth]

Going for my first ever Incarnon. Any recommendations? I have all the base versions of these weapons except for Lato.

And I have the Prime version for Braton

[obsidian forum]

Braton and Lato are the best on the set for this week. Get those first then get the others in later weeks.

[forest jacinth]

Someone told me to get Paris and Skana over every other. Now I'm confused

[willow bluff]

Does enemy death animation slow down if the enemy is under some slow effect?

[leaden obsidian]

Braton, lato, skana, paris

[leaden obsidian]

Braton and lato are both good

[forest jacinth]

I can only choose 2 bro 😭

[radiant knot]

Thanks

[forest jacinth]

I sense a but coming

[obsidian forum]

What do you prefer?

It’s all about player preference.

[leaden obsidian]

Nah, all 4 are good. The best 2 from what I hear are braton(baby burston incarnon)and lato incarnon

[willow bluff]

Paris & Lato

Coz Braton has too much similarities with Burston

[obsidian forum]

Doesn’t mean it won’t be good as an alt option until you have the Burston.

[willow bluff]

Uh sure.
It's my uniqueness bias speaking.

However I think you can get insane CD on Braton incarnon from what I've seen.

[forest jacinth]

I'm not a fan of bow weapons honestly. Because I dislike how I have to click M1 over and over again instead of just holding it and ratatatatataata

[willow bluff]

I saw it somewhere in 30's

[forest jacinth]

That's why I love my Sobek

[obsidian forum]

Then the Paris incarnon will come later, and the Braton and Lato incarnons, shortly followed by the Burston incarnon, should be your pick.

[forest jacinth]

Got it! Thanks! I did see a few videos saying how good the Burston incarnon is. Though I'm just waiting on the Torid Incarnon since my wife uses that one and I've heard its the best one in the game

[leaden obsidian]

Braton has an insane altfire

It turns into like a machine gun that does real damage

[obsidian forum]

I personally am not a fan of beam weapons so I haven’t got around to grabbing or using the Torid yet, but I might soon in the future once I’m done with the hellish Nokko farm.

[forest jacinth]

Beam weapons just feel satisfying for some reason to me

[leaden obsidian]

no torid

[obsidian forum]

Then the Torid and Kuva Nukor are your path.

[leaden obsidian]

Boar*

No torid

[blissful scroll]

should i take this on xaku?

[obsidian forum]

I got so much I need to do but never enough time to do it

[blissful scroll]

do their weapons deal more dmg with more strength

[obsidian forum]

I think it scales on enemy level

But since when has more ability strength ever hurt anyone?

[blissful scroll]

oh it WORKS LMAO

[restive warren]

[willow bluff]

The Prime hasn't arrived again

[restive warren]

Boar ragnarock

[willow bluff]

Oh my god

[restive warren]

[leaden obsidian]

Why not

[willow bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/callmekevin-gif-16151008

[leaden obsidian]

It goes on enemy level and str, just str doesn’t matter

[edgy parcel]

is there like a tier list of frames where I don’t need to watch a 1hr video but like an image/graph of it

[blissful scroll]

it seems to actually

[leaden obsidian]

No, you need to watch a 2hr video anout why 1 specific frame is bad

[leaden obsidian]

It doesn’t matter, since it scales with enemy level it’s just easier to go eith that than str

[blissful scroll]

yeah

but 600 ability is insane

[leaden obsidian]

Yeah

[blissful scroll]

i oneshot everything lol

[marsh linden]

I'd say tierlists are already bad in most games
But here in warframe? They are especially, fantastically, amazingly...useless

[willow bluff]

Unless it's a tier list of something niche

[marsh linden]

We are simply too powerfull

[leaden obsidian]

Nu uh, my tierlist is the best tier list

[marsh linden]

Tierlist tierlist when?

[coarse basin]

it is not.

[willow bluff]

Does enemy death animation slow down if the enemy is under some slow effect?

[leaden obsidian]

Garuda and valkyr in S, everyone else in A

[leaden obsidian]

Did you get hacked? Someone in #builds-discussion answered

[coarse basin]

my tier list is the best. qorvex in SSS, everything else in B

[willow bluff]

I don't want just 1 person's answer

[leaden obsidian]

imma say what they said then so you’ll be happy. Yes

[marsh linden]

Considering some slows can slow invulnerability phases of bosses i would imagine they can slow death anim

[willow bluff]

Great then.
Time to arrange some slow method on garuda

Any suggestions now that we're at it?

[leaden obsidian]

[tribal fractal]

Any idea how much can this go for?

[leaden obsidian]

Not gloom, please. I don’t want this conversation again

[willow bluff]

Few hundreds

[leaden obsidian]

None

[final depot]

not sure how valuable dual ichor rivens are, but with those stats, not alot

[willow bluff]

Depending on what is ichor starting price

That'll sell slightly more than minimum

[obsidian forum]

Now slap that on a Hildryn using Arcane Expertise, then you have a party.

[tribal fractal]

ichor has incarnon and 1.25 despo so gotta be worth something right?

[willow bluff]

Check the minimum starting prices

[coarse basin]

prob not much with no neg tho

[final depot]

probably, but generally the good rivens are 4 stat ones, and i dont think range and electricity are sought after stats

[willow bluff]

Starting price in market is currently 70 plat

[coarse basin]

no, they are

[willow bluff]

U can sell for 100

[coarse basin]

ideal stats for ichor are: cd, as, range, elec

[knotty pivot]

is constellations coming early june or late june

[coarse basin]

usual influence stuff

[silver breach]

[willow bluff]

outfluence

[jolly flower]

As a person who likes nidus and considers it their main. I did not know Parasitic Vitality was legitmiately a vitality mod and not just an augment

[leaden obsidian]

I had to look it up

[leaden obsidian]

Slopfluence

[spring idol]

Hii does someone know how much can i sell adapation maxed for?

[jolly flower]

Kinda silly that it's just a vitality mod so my umbra nidus can't use it

[willow bluff]

Less than 100 plat, more than 50

[lofty garden]

60-70 plat according to warframe.market

[tribal fractal]

Another rivenprice question. Is asking 200 for that reasonable?

[spring idol]

Thanks around 60 or something then probably

[willow bluff]

Currently competition is 60

[willow bluff]

Not worth selling right now, wait

[jolly flower]

I wouldn't take it for 10 plat.

inb4 stug rework where it shoots railjack railgun rounds

[willow bluff]

Currently stug riven price starts at 200 plat

[spring idol]

Yea sold it for 60 also dude selling archon mods is a pain 2 million tax for people 😭

[tribal fractal]

Summer update is gonna bankrupt me and I wanna have some plat left 🙁

[jolly flower]

I'm genuinely concerned for anyone buying a stug riven

[leaden obsidian]

5p

[willow bluff]

It is getting an incarnon

Stug riven prices have shot up

[jolly flower]

On god?

[tribal fractal]

Yep. Also Vectis, Ballistica, Obex, Destreza

[leaden obsidian]

Nah

They’re all lying

[jolly flower]

BUT NO PHAGE INCARNON

😡

[willow bluff]

Coda version someday

[restive warren]

Phage?

[jolly flower]

This is crap. I demand my phage

[spring idol]

Damn i need to get Steel path to get an incarnon

[marsh linden]

Phage is just a figment of your imagination

[blissful scroll]

circuit so boring ughhh

[willow bluff]

Depends on what u use

[leaden obsidian]

Phage doesn’t exist

[jolly flower]

Where the heck did my 8 forma go then?

[blissful scroll]

we have spent 1 hour on it and barely on level 4

[restive warren]

[tribal fractal]

??? How?

[coarse basin]

ichor's like john influence tho

[leaden obsidian]

Look at ball ass

[willow bluff]

Melee Vortex suits it more

[restive warren]

woat

[blissful scroll]

they really need to give u more points

[coarse basin]

ok

[spring idol]

I mean compared to all you got to do to get Steel path i think is not that much of a pain 😭

[restive warren]

Vortex is fun on gunsen too but

[jolly flower]

Ball ass with the suspiciously 8 forma shaped throat:

[coarse basin]

they really should make more aoe melee arcanes that dont just reward u for holding e

[restive warren]

Then my gunsen cuss me out in lack of riven

💀

[leaden obsidian]

You should pass me your lato riv

[restive warren]

What lato riven

The one that doesn't exist?

[leaden obsidian]

[coarse basin]

then people would use influence less and we might have a little bit of build diversity

[leaden obsidian]

wait why am i trying to rob a damn lato riv off ya, I din’t even have the damn gun yet

[willow bluff]

DE is hell bent on nerfing influence competition

[restive warren]

I wish Vortex was a whole 100% chance

I would have too much fun with that

[leaden obsidian]

By buffing shitfluence

[willow bluff]

...and intentionally bugged influence for doing even more good things

[coarse basin]

it needs all the competition it can get rn

[restive warren]

But no, I shall get disappoint instead

[coarse basin]

are we talking about misc dmg

[restive warren]

They really want me to get my steps in

[willow bluff]

Primed Disappoint

[leaden obsidian]

That’s the problem, we don’t want fun. We want meta

[willow bluff]

Every bug I know about influence has been good except the one-shot one

[coarse basin]

misc dmg is the coolest thing it can do

[willow bluff]

It can hit through Limbo's rift, usually when this used to happen, DE immediately nerfed that.

[restive warren]

To be fair 100% vortex would encourage macro afk player to do crazy melee build so...

[jolly flower]

Primed Atagraphed Disappointment

[leaden obsidian]

Influence isn’t supposed to do that??

[willow bluff]

Exodia Contagion:

[coarse basin]

check out that one nova main on yt he does some crazy stuff with influence, pax seeker, debilitate, acid shells, molecular prime, everything

[willow bluff]

Molecular Prime
Just that
Everything else revolves around it

[restive warren]

Exodia contagion doesn't care about a lot of things

It's just sorta have a mind of its own

[coarse basin]

they're called kaylee I think?

[restive warren]

If it develop sentience, I will dissolve it

[willow bluff]

Molecular Prime is unnerfed Zephyr's 4

[leaden obsidian]

Sentience??

[willow bluff]

Everything it can do now was possible with Zephyr

[restive warren]

It's only mildly concerning

[coarse basin]

nah theres more to a lot of these interactions

[restive warren]

[coarse basin]

like misc damage being able to make influence proc debilitate and therefore acid shells

[willow bluff]

The final chapter of this vid, only Nova's 4 can do it now, zephyr's 4 used to do it but not anymore:

https://youtu.be/YfIykdKhcS8?si=bIpUErhE_R8FACv2

[knotty pivot]

what content is there gonna be before constellations? anything but the event?

[willow bluff]

(the AoE is credited as if it belongs to the weapon, so the orb pickup mods proc from the AoE)

[untold path]

Opinions about the Soma Prime?

[sudden tendon]

mid

[river otter]

Would Nourish be a good addition to Protea

[sudden tendon]

roar would do more

[river otter]

Over which ability?

[sudden tendon]

her 4 iirc

[river otter]

Idk

Doesn’t feel any different.

[untold path]

With Incarnon

[sudden tendon]

worse

[untold path]

There's no bad Incarnon

[sudden tendon]

didnt say it was bad

i just said it makes it worse

[untold path]

Thats exactly what bad means

[sudden tendon]

if somethings worse than something doesnt make it bad

[celest flare]

forma'd my Vauban

[sudden tendon]

both can still be good ones just ones worse

[untold path]

Really hard to believe

Pass

[sudden tendon]

ur free to give it a shot🤷‍♂️

[lyric lotus]

Soma is good for early level sp mission, but wont go to main it honestly, burston is far better with incarnon then soma

[edgy briar]

god bless for a good roll this week

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-celebrating-gif-6529507804860980052

[knotty pivot]

does arcane camisado work on styanax's 4th?

[trim bobcat]

Braton, obviously, but Paris?

[restive warren]

[edgy briar]

I don't think Styanax's clones that throw the javelins counts as summons?

[knotty pivot]

yes i was thinkin that

ima test it rn

[edgy briar]

yeah sadly
would be hella good

[lyric lotus]

hot damn weeks give me some heavy hitters

[edgy briar]

Valkyr sweeps already
but with the torid aswell????

[lyric lotus]

and ciramic dagger

[edgy briar]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-diggity-dog-smile-negan-jeffrey-dean-morgan-the-walking-dead-gif-15346388

gonna check what's ETA for me this week

[lyric lotus]

Gara Glaxion and okina...not bad

[edgy briar]

oh my lord heavens above
I get to use my bbg my main 😭
the weapon choices are kinda dog ass but she'll carry with her claws

[lyric lotus]

i mean if there is valk weapons are optional

[edgy briar]

yeahh

[blissful scroll]

SO WHEN U DIE U DONT GET ANYTHING??????

thats so dumb

[brave mulch]

Which one should I get?

[lyric lotus]

Frost

[brave mulch]

Is she beginner friendly?

[edgy briar]

I was gonna say if we're talking which one is the less pain in the ass to farm I'd say Ash
but
you'll get all of them eventually so it doesn't really matter, so pick which one to your heart's content

[brave mulch]

Ok

[edgy briar]

frost is a he
but he's pretty beginner friendly I'd say, very good defense frame

[brave mulch]

😂 didn't know that

[edgy briar]

dw ur good

[warm monolith]

What is that from? Ive never seen that before?

[edgy briar]

It's from deep archimedea

[warm monolith]

Ight I havent really done that 😭
Im focusing on maxing some syndicates and other content rn

[edgy briar]

where you at in the story?
out of curiosity

[warm monolith]

Im caught up, im just tryna do other stuff like maxing syndicates, getting mods and arcanes, working on my builds etc

[spare bane]

Yo genuine question, is Sirocco be good enough for eidos?

[edgy briar]

Oh okay yeah then dw about this for now lol
This is more along the lines of mid - end game stuff

[spare bane]

What's mid endgame stuff

[edgy briar]

harder content stuff
the way i see it atleast
but everyone knows the end end endgame is ✨ fashion ✨

[spare bane]

True

[blissful scroll]

why is this garbage so fasttt??

[restive warren]

Angle your horse toward floor, press space to keep it high enough so you don't dive into island :D

MOMENTUM BABAYYYY

[blissful scroll]

i only got 10..

[restive warren]

Anyways enough crazy Kat for today, I'm gonna go faceplant in bedge

[blissful scroll]

u are telling me i need to do this twice..

[restive warren]

huh

[blissful scroll]

how do u only get 10 clamps..

[restive warren]

You get more from doing portal or/and SP vs normal

[blissful scroll]

doing portal?

[restive warren]

There's only 3 portals

[blissful scroll]

wdym

[restive warren]

Let me figure out if wiki has pic

can't find pic, but there's like portals that you can access when you have 7 decrees into you

[lyric lotus]

Portal = puedo circuit

[restive warren]

You go weeewoooo in the portals do the whatever challenge

They have Dominus Thraxx face on 'em when you're at a certain distance I believe

[blissful scroll]

well i did everything on the map that it showed

[restive warren]

Problem is to figure which one is activated which one isn't

[blissful scroll]

and i didnt get any

[restive warren]

... They don't show naturally if you ain't close to them

Except... When it's about time to extract BUT

I'm unsure if you need a specific intrinsics level to show them so

If you don't have those maxed I'm not so sure if that info will help

[mild cypress]

what do yall think i should get rid of here

[restive warren]

Duviri portals marker

Took me a minute but that's where they can be at.

[red path]

volnus, prova, sepulcrum, dual clevers are all pretty niche weapons, what we call mr fodder

torid riven is your gold right there

[grizzled wren]

did they buff the amount of void traces u get for doing missions? I swear back in the day you'd be excited dto get like 20, now im getting 50-100 every mission?

[edgy briar]

I've gotten as low as 6 before

[red path]

it's random of 6-30 base, then it can get boosted by resource boosters and pet mods like resourceful retriever

[grizzled wren]

ooo ok that makes sense, ty.

think i got a booster once i loggedd in

[red path]

so if both proc on 30 you can get 120 traces

[grizzled wren]

https://tenor.com/view/3-gato-gif-7696470040435474518

[edgy briar]

double cash mone

[lofty garden]

6-30 base. 12-60 with a resource booster. beyond that is lucky pet shenanigans until the rewards screen. you can receive up to 15 more if all the other squad members choose your relic

[red path]

and there is also endless fissure booster that goes up to +75%

[lofty garden]

not worth it vs faster options, unless you are farming something else

[lyric lotus]

Someone is spicy today

[lapis quiver]

Oh my

[blissful scroll]

yippe

[lofty garden]

But where is the braton vandal?

[lyric lotus]

don't think moon has it yet

[blissful scroll]

why braton vandal

[lofty garden]

Style!

[blissful scroll]

my braton vandal is 2/4

[lyric lotus]

[blissful scroll]

i have 3 blueprints and 4 stocks

[blissful scroll]

idk

i prefer the prime, looks cooler

[lofty garden]

it is very same-y

[blissful scroll]

cant belive i got this to later learn that the kuva sobek is INCREDIBLY bad on its own and needs saryn

why does my earth look like this

[vale falcon]

The kuva lich took it over

[edgy briar]

the red covered nodes are their territory
your lich

[lofty garden]

Space Measles

[blissful scroll]

ahhh

[edgy briar]

so if you do any normal mission on them your resources you got from it will be taxed

this also means your archon shard can be stolen

[short elbow]

Not true

[edgy briar]

I thought the sobek is a pretty solid shotgun on its own?

[lavish herald]

the sobek is still super good regardless wdym

[spare ice]

This also applies to citrine mirror defense

[lavish herald]

it's the mod "Acid Shells" that makes it good

Saryn just basically doubles its effectiveness

which, is already good regardless

[edgy briar]

oh right yeah

[spare ice]

Double is a bit of an understatement

[short elbow]

Not only saryn, but any source of vulnerability

[vale falcon]

Also multiple frames can take advantage of acid shells sobek too, just needs an extra hit bonus

[blissful scroll]

i mean i watched a video and it looked incredibly bad

https://youtu.be/nhJTwqRhzgs?t=305

this looks weak idk

[lavish herald]

I mean it's overkill at that point, add Roar and it's even crazier

it's my default shotgun at this point, and I spam the crap out of it on frames that increase your damage in one way or another

Cyte 09 + Sobek is also incredibly fun

[short elbow]

It’s unmodded.

[blissful scroll]

it looked modded

so like can i switch those at will hmm

cuz im not sure what frame ill be using them with? ig mostly maybe with nekros and it has channeled ability so yeah

[lavish herald]

it's got mods on it, it's just that it's testing against lvl210 Grineer without any buffs

[short elbow]

I make comps entirely around sobek tbh

But yeah you want

Roar
Pacify & provoke
Molecular prime
Sonar
GOOD corrosive / viral priming

If you have any two of those sobek will turn into a point and click oneshot of up to 20m.

[lavish herald]

which.....just use something that increases weapon damage/damage vulnerability

question, why did you aim for the sobek if you didn't have someone like Saryn or Cyte?

[blissful scroll]

wait this weapon kinda deals dmg now with incarnon

[blissful scroll]

so uwant a lot of stuff lmao

[blissful scroll]

i didnt

its the first good weapon i got

[short elbow]

Just any two of those I said

[blissful scroll]

i thought its way better than it was

[short elbow]

Those are all good options

[lavish herald]

it's one of the best paired with Saryn yeah

[lavish herald]

Roar is used as a subsume incredibly often anyway

you need like 1 or 2 things

[blissful scroll]

i mean yeah but i kinda want a weapon thats good on its own

so ig next time ill be aiming just for kuva nukor

[edgy briar]

my glorious king Strun prime incarnon

[untold path]

Amalgam mods are objectively better than its main version?

[blissful scroll]

i got strun riven

[untold path]

Or both are useful

[short elbow]

Idk at some level im convinced people shit on sobek just to keep its riven disposition higher

[blissful scroll]

i want strun prime cuz the riven dispo looks good on that

[blissful scroll]

i mean the dmg looked very bad there on that video idk

[edgy briar]

not precisely? amalgam mods are weird in nature
they'll have slightly lower stats than the normal mod in exchange for some random ass increase like revive speed for example

[untold path]

Dunno, are recomended in some builds

Like Amalgam Serration in Daikyu Prime

[edgy briar]

if the random plus also benefits you by a margin then it absolutely is better than the normal variation

[lavish herald]

you kinda see people rushing through the game without tryna understand the game more on here kinda often

[edgy briar]

like amalgam organ shatter on a glaive weapon for example

[untold path]

Anyway

Opinions about the Xoris? (In steelpath)

[edgy briar]

very good

[untold path]

Really?

[edgy briar]

forced electric proc = melee influence bonanza

its more of a throw heavy spam weapon

[untold path]

Tru

That shit was broken at the moment

[edgy briar]

if you're using it solely for the normal melee attacks then good luck scratching the average SP enemy

[lavish herald]

just ignore em after your first to third attempts at tryna explain fr

[untold path]

Btw, I made this build for Dual Toxocyst

(When I get an Incarnon)

[blissful scroll]

theres no way..

[untold path]

I forgor its in spanish...

Uh

[untold path]

Whar

[blissful scroll]

look at the screenshot

[untold path]

Was an answer

[blissful scroll]

theres no more enemies

ah i forgot to do the drifters camp thing last week

[edgy briar]

oof
feels bad

dw though
you can do like a quick capture earth mission and get that in a jiffy

[blissful scroll]

yeah did that

[edgy briar]

epic

[blissful scroll]

btw just to be sure

what is considered a channeled ability ? im guessing nekros desecrate , xakus 1 2 and 4

[red path]

ability that constantly drains energy and prevent normal/assisted energy regen

[blissful scroll]

oh

so not nekros or xaku

[red path]

most exalted weapons, ivara prowl etc

pretty sure there is a list of them on wiki

[willow bluff]

It's a lot more than one would normally think

[blissful scroll]

so thast useless for me got it

[red path]

there is an arcane that has same condition

[willow bluff]

There are several unexpected ones which count as channeled abilities

[blissful scroll]

without reloading but dying counts as reloading??

[willow bluff]

There's a full list here in "Notes" section:
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Seismic_Bond

[red path]

if you can't self revive/get revived by ally - yes

[willow bluff]

Put this in exilus

[red path]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Channeled_Abilities

[blissful scroll]

so basically that incarnon upgrade is very useless

[untold path]

Please tell me 10 is the ammount of polarity it requieres without Forma

[blissful scroll]

NO WAit look

it is channeled ._.

[vocal sun]

Why is overextended good on gauss prime wouldnt it makes nuke weaker

[edgy briar]

Nekros's desecrate is a channeled ability yeah

[red path]

it is for arcane intention, not for incarnon perks

[blissful scroll]

xakus 4 also works

so i can use it on both frames okay

[red path]

arcane intention? yes

[blissful scroll]

no braton incarnon

[empty marsh]

first time unlocking duviri steel path any help which to take

[red path]

then why look at arcane intention list?

[empty marsh]

also which evo form to take seems like all are different

[blissful scroll]

thats what people gave me to look at 😭

[median topaz]

Do you use any of those weapons at all?

[red path]

I sent a link, but ther relevant section is only at the top, that reads Incarnon genesis

[blissful scroll]

hmm

[median topaz]

Because any incarnon genesis will make a weapon you already use that much better

[empty marsh]

i have none of them in my inventory

[edgy briar]

for like
low level missions like invasions exterminate, 40% strength is still more than enough to nuke rooms

[median topaz]

Braton and Kunai then

[blissful scroll]

kunai? why kunai

[trim crypt]

Does the +250% Melee Damage also affect Voruna's 4?

[median topaz]

Braton Prime is an easy enough farm, Kunai has no upgraded form so you can use it immediately without FOMO

afaik no

[vocal sun]

like for steel path runs

[median topaz]

Because Voruna's 4 only counts as melee for her other abilities

[empty marsh]

and which evo to take? Which ever seems like giving more buffs?

[median topaz]

it's purely up to personal taste

Most people will suggest crit focus over anything else

[blissful scroll]

how does one get invigoration

[median topaz]

But you can swap the evos whenever

[edgy briar]

ah
can't say much on that topic, i rarely run Gauss on SP

[edgy briar]

get rank 5 with the entrati

[willow bluff]

Without forma

[median topaz]

Rank 5 Entrati has a second Helminth segment upgrade

[edgy briar]

the segment will be sold at son by then

[untold path]

Literally the exact amount I have

[edgy briar]

thankfully the Entrati family rep grind is not as annoying as a year ago

[blissful scroll]

holy this goes up from 65 to 162

[edgy briar]

yummy crit chance

[blissful scroll]

soon

[blissful scroll]

yeahh the braton is gonna deal so much more now i reckon

[median topaz]

BASE critical chance is very nice

[blissful scroll]

its cuz i got this

[willow bluff]

U can also use it at rank 0 for barely more than 25 energy per orb, the mod will cost 0 capacity even on polarity mismatch.

However I prefer to use max rank for 52 energy per orb.

[blissful scroll]

i ned to roll this more tbh

[edgy briar]

this reminds me
I think they should change the way archon shards like red and blue shards work where they increase the base stat of something instead of just adding ontop as a flat bonus

[blissful scroll]

anyways now i need to invest another forma in this

i need to make it better :3

[untold path]

Did you see my Dual Toxocyst?

[red path]

need recoli mod I guess

[empty marsh]

ok and another thing ill have to recraft the weapon to get incarnon buff or after completing the paths ill get the braton with incarnon without crafting anything , i alr sold my braton after max ranking him

[red path]

better get braton prime for incarnon

[median topaz]

Get Braton Prime instead

[red path]

it's evergreen prime with no rare parts

[median topaz]

But to answer the question, you only get the adapter, not the weapon

[blissful scroll]

hmm?

[blissful scroll]

this is braton prime tho?

[empty marsh]

so need to have the weapon before got it

[untold path]

7 forma 😭

[blissful scroll]

lmao

yeah i can get mine better

[untold path]

8 🥶

[blissful scroll]

first one is upgrading this

[red path]

I was answering to frank

[blissful scroll]

then theres this which will give me 4 more

[median topaz]

do you have the corrupted crit mod

[blissful scroll]

is galvanized scope better than aptitude

[untold path]

Ok but for real, whats rhe best way to grinf Endo? I REALLY need to get more for Umbra Mods

[blissful scroll]

which one

[blissful scroll]

1999

[median topaz]

Umbra mods are pretty unnecessary these days

[willow bluff]

Arbitration for ya

[red path]

arbitrations, bounties in hollvania/undermind, railjack not bad too

[median topaz]

Unless you're doing Triumbral Inaros/Nidus~~/Chroma~~

[willow bluff]

Lavos

[blissful scroll]

which corrupted crit mod

[median topaz]

The rifle one?

[blissful scroll]

u mean this?

[median topaz]

yep

[untold path]

Wdym unnecesary, some are technically better than the main version. If Im right Umbra Pressure is stronger than Primed Pressure Point

[median topaz]

It's weaker than Condition Overload

[willow bluff]

Primed Pressure Point had more IIRC

[untold path]

More what

[median topaz]

Sacrificial Pressure is stronger together with Sacrificial Steel

[blissful scroll]

time for a quick eso

[median topaz]

But these days you run Galvanized Steel instead of Sacrificial Steel as well

[blissful scroll]

u mean galv steel

[untold path]

I only want them for Exc. Umbra honestly

[median topaz]

That's what I said and you never saw anything otherwise

[untold path]

Umbra Vitality is used in some survival frames if Im not wrong

[willow bluff]

137.5% melee dmg
VS
165% melee dmg from PPP

[median topaz]

that was a reference to me writing the wrong mod name

[willow bluff]

Primed Pressure Point gives more melee damage

[median topaz]

But also not really, most survivability frames use shield gating

Shield gating/rolling guard/straight up invulnerability

[untold path]

Sinergy is better sometimes, I tried PPP on Umbra and Valkyr and honestly is not that good if you use Sacrificial Steel and Sacrificial Pressure

[blissful scroll]

starting to think i need primed sure footed so i keep knocking myself back with xoris lol

[untold path]

Of course PPP is better in other cases

But not in all cases

[willow bluff]

You do get more CC in that case

[median topaz]

Enemy DPS is so high that taking health damage AT ALL is an instant kill usually

[edgy briar]

hope you're ready to diligently log in this game for 400 days

[blissful scroll]

nahh

[edgy briar]

thats a year + a couple months

[blissful scroll]

yeah

[median topaz]

tbh Galvanized Steel still outperforms Sac Steel because of the 2:1 crit damage boost effect

[edgy briar]

I got my PSF couple days ago
and so far i haven't done anything with it

[median topaz]

Combine with Blood Rush and you don't need a crit damage mod, which opens up a flex slot

[lavish herald]

put it on atlas and never bullet jump

[blissful scroll]

i love seeing everything explode with xoris

[edgy briar]

what an awesome use of a mod slot
I will totally put this in my loot Atlas

[blissful scroll]

i do need a higher level affliction tho

[untold path]

Just combining both you can make a great build, a main Valkyr I know always gets over 300% critical chance using Umbra and Galvanized

[lavish herald]

you're welcome

[median topaz]

You can't run both at once

[edgy briar]

Absolute saint of a man
you should be a rocket scientist with this level of intellect

[median topaz]

unless you mean triumbral Valkyr, which yeah I do that

[blissful scroll]

so basically for subsume i need, rhino and gaus nothing else lmao

[median topaz]

Grendel

[edgy briar]

nourish if you want viral and energy econ

[untold path]

Not in the same thing obviusly

[lavish herald]

I'd rather be the bottom of a relationship for once

[blissful scroll]

meant grendel not gaus yeah

[median topaz]

Gauss you also want

Titania screen vomit

[edgy briar]

Gauss on a titania for easy exterminate invasion clearing

[untold path]

Umbral Intensify is in fact way better than its common counterpart too

[lavish herald]

I need everyone to send me their greatest speedball grendel builds

[blissful scroll]

okay thats 2 more points

[median topaz]

Archon Intensify is broadly preferable

It's stronger than triumbral Umbral Intensify

[edgy briar]

I don't have a grendel build 😔
my grendel prime sitting on the back collecting dust

[blissful scroll]

someone wanna lend me some money?

[edgy briar]

no potato no nothin

[untold path]

In caster frames and support, of course

[edgy briar]

you could do something like an index run or a legacyte harvest credit cache hunt

[winter cairn]

Is -slash good on a Braton Riven?

[untold path]

In Melee and some Nukes Umbral is as good as or even better

[blissful scroll]

yeah i have credit booster for 39 more mins

[edgy briar]

sweet
full send it then, bankrupt those corpus investors

[blissful scroll]

survival is too slow right

[untold path]

As I said, it really depends on the build and the frame

[median topaz]

not really; making real use of Umbral Intensify requires a triumbral setup for a more than marginal benefit

[edgy briar]

kinda slow yeah
but it does have guaranteed cache since its a mission objective so

[median topaz]

Like, that's part of the reason Excalibur Umbra is less good than base Excalibur :<

[edgy briar]

better than nothing

[red path]

double cash this weekend

[untold path]

Same as meta builds

[median topaz]

no that's just it, the meta builds for almost every frame and weapon doesn't use Umbra mods at all

Heck, even Skiajati you're best off removing the Umbral forma, because it's a status weapon

[untold path]

I investigated about that, thats pretty biased

[median topaz]

It's really not

[untold path]

I can barely understand the complain about loosing buffs changing to operator

[median topaz]

Oh that's easy

You like Roar when there's a Rhino in the party right?

Let's say Rhino casts Roar and your Exalted Blade damage spikes hard

Then the Volt gets overconfident, so you go Operator to revive them

As soon as you go Operator, Roar (and any other buff you had from your arcanes etc) goes away

[untold path]

Hold your horses

[median topaz]

Because Excalibur Umbra is replaced with an Excalibur Umbra specter when you Operator out

[untold path]

Why do I need to revive someone in operator?

I know there's some enemies I must defeat in operator

[median topaz]

....you're completely immortal in void mode

[untold path]

Not always neccesary

[median topaz]

So even if there are ten million corrupted heavy gunners shooting you at once, you take no damage

[blissful scroll]

HOLY MY BRATON DMG WENT SO HIGH

[median topaz]

In high level content you will ONLY be reviving people in Operator mode

[untold path]

And when you attack you're not inmortal anymore

[median topaz]

You don't Operator to attack

[rocky breach]

when you attack you arent in void mode anymore

[untold path]

Being honest, nobody waits to be revived

[rocky breach]

and thats why people choose quick firing amps, so that window is small (or to use something like magus cloud to aoe cc)

[untold path]

And if you do nobody does

[median topaz]

That's a low-tier issue

in high level content you wait

[untold path]

Im doing steelpath

[mossy zenith]

hello there, im a bit confused, i slapped a green shard on nokko to "recover +3 health each time enemies are damaged by a toxin status effect" and it didnt heal and i dont understand why, in my mind it should be a pretty good way to heal nokko and always had the feeling it doenst really heal like i want and last mission i saw it didnt work... am i doing something wrong?

[median topaz]

as I said: low tier

[untold path]

It doesn't depends on me

[median topaz]

SP isn't high tier anymore

Because the barrier to entry is too low

[untold path]

Define low

[rocky breach]

if it works, its only when the dot ticks.
so 3sec after your mushroom balls hit something

[blissful scroll]

thats what i was trynna tell my friend when we were doing void cascade and they kept reviving pre min 10

[median topaz]

"Not Elite Archimedea"

[blissful scroll]

later ran out of revives

[untold path]

Oh that, stills happening anyway.

[median topaz]

literally can't, because you can't self-revive

[rocky breach]

you cant manually self revive in archimedea

[untold path]

And people dont wants to revive you

At least most of them

[median topaz]

This is how I know you don't play a lot of it

[rocky breach]

people will always race to revive you, assuming youre smart enough to mark where you are since auto waypoints sometimes bug out

[untold path]

Friends do

Why do you think I play this game

[median topaz]

This is how I know they don't play a lot of it either

[untold path]

6 years of playing

[red path]

is there something in nokko abilities that apply toxin status?

[median topaz]

his 4 forces a proc yes

[rocky breach]

his shroom balls, but most things die from the initial hit before a tick, and if they do get a tick they usually die from that

and 3 hp isnt much if youre only getting 1-2 ticks every 5-10sec tops

[median topaz]

Look I'm genuinely not trying to be mean about this, but high level Warframe play is very different from low level play. I don't mean enemy levels, I mean player skill level.

[lyric lotus]

the NW sigil is not bad

[rocky breach]

1 more week and we get the +60str velox augment, looking forward to it on my str stackers

[mossy zenith]

1 and 4 applying toxin status

[red path]

1 should be viral though

[mossy zenith]

oh wait, maybe 1 is viral, but 4 is def toxin

[untold path]

And thats why they prefer playing themselves than doing it with other people

Dunno why, just happens

[red path]

it's just 1 has status in description, but 4 only say about damage, so I it's a hidden stat I guess

[mossy zenith]

so that means while dealing tons of toxin status it aint toxin or what? 😄

[median topaz]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Sporespring

Forced Toxin Status Effect

[red path]

I mean in game description

I know wiki has full info about ability, but if it's not in game info, it's a hidden stat

[winter cairn]

Is this a good negative?

[lyric lotus]

if people don't revive you when you are down in archemedia there is that void angel comes out which is fun to deal with sometimes, so suqadmates have to revive to ignore spawning the angel

[red path]

and toxin damage don't imply toxin status in any way

[mossy zenith]

but what does it matter if its hidden or not? it deals toxin dmg and forces a toxin status but it wont trigger the effect of the toxin shard? feels damn off to me

[median topaz]

It triggers the effect, the effect just isn't very strong

[red path]

it just kills before the status deal any damage I guess

[mossy zenith]

bad enough that there are no shards for fire and what not, but no the toxin shard wont trigger on toxin? 😂

[median topaz]

and every enemy after the first is going to be killed by the shroom before the toxin procs

? The fire shard is the orange one

[mossy zenith]

yeah but from 217hp i should go to 220hp, but it doenst happen, i thought that maybe the enemies were too weak and it killed them before the effect could trigger, but it often feels off even with high level enemies...

[rocky breach]

maybe an eximus or heavy unit might take 1 toxin tick. (3sec after the impact/application)
but everything else will die to the impact.

[median topaz]

crit chance on secondaries

[mossy zenith]

but then its no use if its that unreliable, make me a bit sad, im just gonna change the shard to something with more use then

[rocky breach]

standard shards for nokko are using the +toxin status damage

[median topaz]

yeah it's not a well designed effect

[rocky breach]

with a few cast speeds

[median topaz]

should be on inflicting

[red path]

you use it with something with less damage, like companion spreading toxin status with priming

[mossy zenith]

thank you guys ❤️

[rocky breach]

question though....why archon shard for heals, when you can just pop into sprodling form for a few sec and grab a spore

[mossy zenith]

hate the sprodling form 😄 and was just an idea of "well could make sense, maybe will add to survivability" but it didnt really, so im gonna max out some more damage 😂

[median topaz]

Sprodling form is hilarious because it's a stealth ability

just be a random mushroom and go through spy vaults

[mossy zenith]

yeah i got a build where i didnt throw away the reroot, but i like saryns helminth skill a lot more on him

[untold path]

Looking at Umbra and Excalibur, in general Umbra has better stuff talking about survival and skills like his 2nd that unline base Exc, this one eliminates damage resistance. His only 🤨 is his buff lost at operators change, but being fair most of time you dont change unless you're desesperated to survive or you have to deal with ammounts of concients

[median topaz]

Sentient resistances aren't really a consideration

[untold path]

I honestly think Valkyr its a better melee option

[median topaz]

back in the day that was a big deal but they were SUPER nerfed before New War

(also Operator beam does the same thing...)

[rocky breach]

also the power creep has meant we can just brute force, even if it went to 90-95% damage type DR

[wild trench]

If it is the heaviest one by a huge margin yes. The modded damage bonuses don't account for the ips reduction. It helps you do more electric with purple shards.

[spare bane]

Hate is soooo powerful fr

[wild trench]

No hate. Only love

[blissful scroll]

i really hate spawning in after they have done the bounty vault

[untold path]

Specifically talking about Excalibur, Umbra is slightly "stronger" just for the 2nd skill. Survival stats like energy are higher ln Umbra, damage per second the same

[lyric lotus]

May i present you - The Harmony?

[spare bane]

The only reason why Umbra sucks and Excal is better is bc of the passive... That's it

[rocky breach]

its why people use base excal a lot of the time over umbra.
you lose 1 archon shard (for +energy), but gain an exilus, and dont feel bad about changing umbral slots

[spare bane]

Hmmm

[untold path]

Both are equal to me, nothing really special

But I prefer Umbra by a lot

[rocky breach]

i use base excal for exalted builds, and umbral for slash dash builds

[sacred quail]

Parkour speed and sprint speed amalgam mods my beloved

[edgy briar]

yeahhhhhhh
love those

[spare bane]

Mod slots is the reason

There is a bug than when you are an operator, all of the buffs you have resets, and you need to mod it just to ignore it... That's why

[untold path]

And also, peolple should stop saying something that isn't meta is bad

[spare bane]

Yeah I agree, there is a reason I use mediocre frames bc of that hahah

[sacred quail]

Limbo 🤤

[spare bane]

I use ash now

As a melee frame

[sacred quail]

I use limbo because double surge builds are absolutely gnarly

[median topaz]

you were the one talking about what was stronger ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spare bane]

I haven't tried limbo tbh

[median topaz]

I need to play more Ash, I always wanted him before he was moved to RJ, and when I got him I just.... didn't ever use him??

Still kinda feel bad about that.

[untold path]

If you're in squad doesnt matters cus people is constantly activating them.
If you're alone and use a Hellminth one just use it again. I suppose you use primed flow or something to make your energy dont run out at that point

Is bad, but not that bad

And people exagerates

[sacred quail]

People love to dogpile Limbo alot when he's actually quite competent, if a little frail and lacking distinct vfx of his abilities

[blissful scroll]

tbh still not sure if my braton will survive sp but we will see

[sacred quail]

It probably will

[spare bane]

and the fact that he is forced as a Solo frame hahaha

[median topaz]

I do absolutely adore my jank Gara build

[blissful scroll]

probably since i have riven as well

need to roll more on that riven tho , hopefully ig et more cd

[sacred quail]

Nah I bring him public sometimes just max his range and let the revenants cry

[untold path]

When I said Exc. Umbra is meta?

[sacred quail]

If you have its incarnon then itll melt them

[median topaz]

She only works in multiplayer Hollvania due to the eximus density giving me unlimited energy

[spare bane]

Yeah that's why they rather use normal Excal hahaha

Bc in that way they don't have to recast

More safe on energy

[median topaz]

we actually weren't even discussing the meta, just what was better

[untold path]

Just to be sure, this place tends to say what I said

[median topaz]

No, I checked, we weren't talking level cap or full optimization

[sacred quail]

The only reason I consider triumbral nowadays is for arcane persistence on health tanking frames

[median topaz]

Just better/superior

[blissful scroll]

uh oh credit booster works at end of mission

theres 30 secodns until this mission ends 🤣

[untold path]

Excalibur doesn't uses too much energy

[spare bane]

It depends on a player

[rocky breach]

noone is saying you cant use what you like.
we're talking objective issues.

maybe the loss of timed buffs isnt an issue for you, but its still an issue and enough people would rather not deal with it

[untold path]

No really, he's possibly one of the most cheapest frames on habilities

Or thats what I think

[spare bane]

May I introduce Ash hahahaha

[untold path]

I never run lut of energy with him

[rocky breach]

thats why they would rather lose 1 archon shard and gain the exilus slot back for something like PSF.
its just about QOL and how much friction youre willing to deal with

[blissful scroll]

yeahh u might be right, this is level 1 deadhead not stacked, no weapon buffs , no incarnon

[median topaz]

Not really; people run into energy issues because they run Blind Rage, which increases energy costs

Excalibur's costs are solidly average

So with a max BR you end up needing a lot more energy

[spare bane]

True

[sacred quail]

Im only running into issues with mine if I used furious javelin or w/e the augment is a bit too carelessely to get a minimal stat buff

[median topaz]

This is why people run Arcane Energize, Nourish, Equilibrium etcetcetc

[untold path]

Seems more like a build issue than a Warframe issue

[median topaz]

It is!

With a proper build with the stuff I mentioned, it's way more powerful than playing safely

[untold path]

I remember I saw a build wich makes you have infinite energy or likely something really close

[median topaz]

there's a few ways to do that

[blissful scroll]

omg this weeks callendar rewards are insane, archon shard, 3 day mod drop, 3 day drop chance

[median topaz]

Like "playing Oberon with Universal Fallout" https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Arcane_Universal_Fallout

[untold path]

Fallout?

Living in a world in fire?

[blissful scroll]

is this good?

[median topaz]

No that's Arcane Hot Shot 😛

[untold path]

I never visit that guy lol

[median topaz]

For every stack of Radiation status on an enemy you have a 6% chance of them dropping a universal orb

[rocky breach]

if you get rabvee, balla or at worst kronsh.
then it could be

[median topaz]

Zaw rivens? absolutely not

[spare bane]

OH WAIT TODAY IS RESET!

[blissful scroll]

xd

[edgy briar]

I've not seen one soul in this game who brings a zaw on a mission, let alone steelpath

[median topaz]

I still see them on Profit Taker

[blissful scroll]

im gonan roll a bit

[median topaz]

Plague Kripath etc

[lyric lotus]

Uriels alt helmet is in nw this week

[blissful scroll]

wish me luck guys 🙏

[median topaz]

oh snap finally

[edgy briar]

and Follie's alt helmet too

[rocky breach]

zaws (exodia contatgion) are usually insane overkill, you see it often in endurance runs.
but its mostly people using it solo

[edgy briar]

snatched it for myself earlier

[red path]

do you have profit taker unlocked?

[edgy briar]

that explains it then

[blissful scroll]

i dont believe so

[tidal plover]

Is there ANY point in doing this week’s steel path circuit

[spare bane]

To get the incarnons you need

[blissful scroll]

which one is better 😭

[spare bane]

You can ignore it if you want Balti

[median topaz]

Zaws are broadly still the second or third best weapons in their class

[blissful scroll]

if only it was crit shot aghhh

[edgy briar]

speaking of zaws
im thinking of going through them and getting all the mastery from the different blades
though i'd love to have atleast one zaw to keep after that's pretty good so if anyone have any like recommendations for the modulars then i'd love to hear them

[rocky breach]

same reason as any other week.
you want whatever boosters which showed up
you want some adapters that week
you want rivens/kuva

[median topaz]

but to really use them WELL you need a lot of extra system knowledge

[lyric lotus]

Braont, paris, lato, skana incarnon is in the rotation wym any point doing it?

[median topaz]

Plague Kripath or balla

[edgy briar]

noted

[red path]

if you have any interest in those weapon why not, also if you have enough intrinsics yoiu can choose riven or kuva as tier 5 reward and get only that

[edgy briar]

any other pick for like
the grip and the ring thingies (that i forgot the name of)?

[median topaz]

honestly all the plague zaws are super solid choices

[edgy briar]

ohh okay

I'll just read what they bring to the table and adjusts to suit what i like

[median topaz]

there's only two of course

[edgy briar]

o?

[median topaz]

yeah, plague star stuff

[red path]

all two plague zaws are good

I don't have riven for them so I just use balla

[median topaz]

built in viral

[edgy briar]

Yummy

[spare bane]

Ooo 2 shotgun rivens

Bruh Hek and Convectrix.....

[rocky breach]

hek for the memes

[edgy briar]

The hek have a kuva variant so
Its not bad

[spare bane]

Dispo is low, finding one would be hard

here is my hek

[edgy briar]

Oh wait
Hek have a low dispo?
Darn

[rocky breach]

its not low, its at 1.00 (3/5) so strictly average/fine

[spare bane]

Oh wait nvm

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