gameplay-discussion

[neon lantern]

its 8:36 am now, itll be between 9-11am

[random solstice]

so 2hrs

1:37 here

[neon lantern]

i mean, you're in the server Im sure an announcement will ping @ everyone and its not like its a 1 day thing

[wild cradle]

just asking, is there a way to disable wall latch melee attack?

[neon lantern]

......dont know if I should ask WHY or HOW are you wall latching and melee attacking

[wild cradle]

i am an exodia contagion main, sometimes im wall latching since to activate the exodia need to aim

[neon lantern]

why not just double jump then aim glide and throw?

[wild cradle]

because of that aim glide, you will wall latching if near to the wall or object

[rotund pulsar]

does the invul on shield break (shield gating i think people call it) have a cooldown

[rugged shore]

No as long as you have shields you will get a minimum of 0.3 shield gate timer

[neon lantern]

4 seconds

[rotund pulsar]

that explains it then

[rugged shore]

I dont think he means actual recharge but shield gate itself

[rotund pulsar]

yeah the invul itself

[rugged shore]

If you constantly spam augur mods for example there is no cooldown

[neon lantern]

doesnt seem like a way to disable it, it just says move or stop aiming to unstick yourself from the wall

[rotund pulsar]

i swear i run out of invul, use augur to get shields, then once the shields run out i dont get it again

[rugged shore]

However the duration of the shield gate depends on the highest amount of shields you had since the last shield break

You probably have very weak regen on augur so you get the bare minimum timer every time

[wild cradle]

yeah, i hope dev can make some change about it. its not that bad, but sometimes it disturb my gameplay a lil bit

[neon lantern]

either that or heh no offence to you but, stay away from walls?

[rotund pulsar]

ah

[rugged shore]

You can technically infinitely shield gate by regaining 1 shield every break but you will be stuck with 0.3 shield gate duration for example

[rotund pulsar]

well thats literally just not explained at all in game, i thought it was off max shield alone

[neon lantern]

think doesnt rolling guard help it too?

[rotund pulsar]

that explains my problems then

[rugged shore]

Its based on max amount of shields held since last break

Thats why catalyzing shields is so strong

[wild cradle]

sometimes Im bullet jump to activate the exodia, because of that, it automatic wall latching. just sometimes

[rugged shore]

7s cooldown is a lot so you cant use it to hide the initial shield regen every time

Still a good mod regardless

[neon lantern]

true that, helped me fight the Steel Path Janus Captain Vor

[red holly]

catalyzing shield guarantees 1.33s full shield gate immunity at max shields as long as you manage to get the max shields, right?

but if you don't and lose the shields again, you will have the 0.3s shield game duration, right?

so it works best on low shield frames

[umbral fulcrum]

Me: wonders why no people be found in missions
Also me: set the game to solo 🤦‍♂️

[rotund pulsar]

getting requiem relics is so annoying man

[neon lantern]

me when doing interception missions

[umbral fulcrum]

imagine farming kuva pre night wave

[rugged shore]

Yes the 1.33 still scale in relation to the shield amount you had since they last broke

If you can augur/respite hard enough to regen the full amount of shields you can get 1.33 each cast

Blind rage also helps with that

[devout burrow]

its always 1.33 seconds

as long as you have shields

[rugged shore]

No, its 1.33 at max

You do not have 1.33 if you regen 1 shield

[devout burrow]

its always 1.33 seconds

[junior solar]

Where should I spend my first few forma?

[devout burrow]

you do

[red holly]

no, it clearly says 1.33 full shield

[devout burrow]

what it says is different to what it is in reality

many such cases in warframe

[red holly]

if that was the case I should have never died using it to anything but attacks that ignore shields

[devout burrow]

if you want the wiki entry

[rugged shore]

With 1 augur mod you can easily feel that its not 1.33? Been a while since I ran a shield gater but ig I can record whenever I have time

[devout burrow]

what were you using

[rugged shore]

Seen the entry on wiki, definitely didn't feel like it? Guess just need to try it

[devout burrow]

damage taken during shield gate resets shield recharge delay btw

[red holly]

catalyzing shields, fast deflection, augur mods, the whole package

[rugged shore]

This is the TOP comment in that wiki

[obsidian ridge]

We got a confirmed release time for vauban heirloom?

[red holly]

I was even using brief respite

[devout burrow]

which confirms what I am saying

[rugged shore]

Guess i just felt wrong?

Yeah I'm not saying this to discredit you

[rotund pulsar]

in 2 hours i think

theres a discord event

[obsidian ridge]

Cool

[devout burrow]

shield gate with shield recharge works as following:
shields break > 1.33 seconds of invulnerability > if you take damage during those 1.33 seconds, the timer resets back to 0.8 seconds (shield recharge)

so worst case scenario is 0.8 seconds of vulnerability before shield gate kicks in again

[rugged shore]

Been taking lots of damage with catalyzing shields when I had low amount of augur and no negative energy eff, assumed mod worked as intended

[devout burrow]

1.33 seconds isnt an eternity

shield gating requires fast reaction time

[red holly]

I will simply test it

[empty scroll]

Unless you're Gauss

[red holly]

so: if I take damage during the shield gating invulnerability time frame, the timer will reset to 1.33s no matter how much shield I have so even without full shields I will still have 1.33s of shield gate next time

[devout burrow]

no, if you take dmg during shield gate, shield recharge delay timer will reset to its modded value

[rotund pulsar]

mm i dont know if i want worthy comradery or brief respite on cyte, he's very squishy, but big damage,,,,

[red holly]

yes

[rotund pulsar]

and id have to use an omni

[red holly]

does that mean I still need full shields to get the max duration of shield gate though?

because you keep saying shield recharge but argued against shield gate duration

[devout burrow]

no, the moment shields start to recharge, the shield gate invulnerability ends independent of the timer and it starts from the beginning

so, when you dont take dmg during the shield gate, shields will start to regen again and you will be at the situation where you have some shields from the passive recharge while being vulnerable again and having the ability to shield gate for the 1.33 seconds again if your shields break

[red holly]

so, having some shields is enough for 1.33s of shield gate?

[devout burrow]

for catalyzing shields yes

[red holly]

alright, time to check how it actually works

[gusty turtle]

Even a single point is enough

[red holly]

I'll still verify

what about if the invul ends and I get shields after the invul, should I still get 1.33s or does it have to be only shields gained during the invul?

[devout burrow]

the general mechanic, independent of catalyzing shields is that, when you gain shields again, your shield gate ends

and then the cycle of shield gate gameplay just continues normally

[red holly]

but the idea is that I want to get the shields again, and no matter how many shields I get during the invul I should still get the 1,33s

[devout burrow]

as long as you have shields you get the 1.33 seconds

doesnt matter when or how the shields are gained

[red holly]

this 1.33s looks like 1.20s to me

so it's almost 1.33s, I'll give you that

unless the visuals don't represent the actual end of invul

then it might be 1.33s

[devout burrow]

how did you measure 0.13 seconds based on visuals

[frosty flint]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-dumb-duh-gif-13669009

Just put the Catalyzing in the bag

[rugged shore]

I assume its not visual and they time it by recording lol

[red holly]

okay, if you want to be more precise I would have to run the game at higher FPS. but because my PC is crap I've calculated it like this. 80 frames of invul, 1 frame being about 16.6ms meaning it's actually 1.33s

so yes, it works as you've said

[rugged shore]

If its always 1.33 then why tf would you ever bother to use fast deflection and vigilante regen one

[red holly]

my shields weren't full and I've still got the full 1.33s of invul

[rugged shore]

Just slap 1 augur

[devout burrow]

laziness

[red holly]

I've thought that was the idea, either the lazy regen or the active regen with augur

[devout burrow]

passive gating means not having to cast abilities to gate via augur

which also saves energy

[lofty garden]

Just use Hildryn.

[red holly]

but the downside of the lazy one if taking damage during invul stops the regen, is that you have to not take damage during invul for the regen to start

[frosty flint]

This is for 98% of frames

[lofty garden]

Use Hildryn 98% of the time. Problem solved!

[frosty flint]

Lazy gate is less controlled than active gating in general but with some buffs to it like omamori it becomes really comfy

[red holly]

so yes, in fact the mod works not how it says it works, but it gives you flat 1.33s of invul as long as you have any shields

I'll give you credit

[frosty flint]

Almost like it says this everywhere about the mod homeboy

[devout burrow]

this is theory talk, in practice you move around, have evasion, enemy fire rate doesnt tick every frame and you also have crowd control
so passive gating is close to immortality in practise if you have decent kpm

[lofty garden]

Hildryn is also an even better option for farming Grendel post-rework that lets her cast her other abilities while in her 4.

[red holly]

yes, I am talking purely theoretically

[frosty flint]

Even google ai saying it

[lofty garden]

Pablo's just going to fix the bug on the mod now.

[devout burrow]

the bug has been a thing since it got implemented

[frosty flint]

praying he doesnt, its been like this since launch

[red holly]

sorry, I prefer verifying my information

[lofty garden]

Probably on his "cleanup from previous regime" whiteboard.

[rotund pulsar]

nah why must harrow systems be from survival man, i dont wanna spend 20 minutes per roll

[devout burrow]

but we all know how fast DE can suddenly change big things that have been a thing for ages and try to slide it under the rug

[lofty garden]

Good news!

You can play Defection instead!

[frosty flint]

yeah ik

Hate them sometimes

[vague falcon]

The liches % change is in this update or on the Shadowgrapher one?

[rotund pulsar]

yeah but i have to play defection if i do that

would it even be any faster?

[lofty garden]

just dump a ton of ability strength into volt.

[devout burrow]

still gotta cash in all my vitus before this update

[lofty garden]

All of a sudden, it's like watching Benny Hill.

[devout burrow]

I'd trust DE to make vitus purchases limited in a skin update

[vague falcon]

Was it Grendel the one that required doing missions without mods? Or was that Chroma?

[devout burrow]

grnedle

[pure gulch]

chroma is the one that needs other frame parts

[devout burrow]

wtf did I type

[vague falcon]

You can also just run Octavia on those quests.

[gusty turtle]

Grnedle

[lofty garden]

Grendel missions allow for Augment mods, subsumed abilities, and faction weapon effects.

[oblique sequoia]

Oh good to know

I haven't done them so yeah XD

[red holly]

what about incarnons?

[lofty garden]

I ran the Defense one yesterday with Electric Elemental Ward Blazing Pillage Hildryn. It was trivial. You just stay in Aegis Storm, casting Pillage constantly and refreshing Elemental Ward occasionally.

Incarnons don't work, mods don't work, no inner child, no gear, etc.

The only time I used my weapon was to take down nullifier bubbles to speed things up

[strong field]

This is the mission where I only use Torid and Revenant (and yes, for some reason the smoke of the a Mod less Torid is very powerful enough for it)

[red holly]

Incarnoff Torid?

[gusty turtle]

The true toxic payload

The one, the only, the toxic, the payload

[strong field]

Yes

[red holly]

good

[gusty turtle]

Yeah incarnons don't work

Their evos don't apply

As if it just removes the "adapter"

[strong field]

Actually, tbh, when I play Torid, 80% is incarnoff... I just use Incarnon if I just need too

[gusty turtle]

Woah

[strong field]

That's the reason I love Corrosive Cold Torid

[gusty turtle]

Damn

[willow bluff]

Good

[strong field]

I just love when it flies with a trail! It's so cool!!!! Yall be focusing on it's Incarnon but the Incarnoff is sick as hell!!!

[willow bluff]

Specially when u can shoot it on allies who are meleeing

[strong field]

Yes sir!

[willow bluff]

Let the smell from their body kill the enemies before their melee can.

[red mural]

how much would an unrolled sicarus riven go for?

[willow bluff]

A lot

[coarse basin]

incarnoff feels kinda neat but it's not good so I wouldn't use it over the incarnon

[strong field]

THAT'S what I love on Torid! Tennos don't understand that incarnoff is as strong as it is

Deadass

Lvl cap? (for arcanes obv) Incarnoff go Blast em to pieces!

[coarse basin]

prolly like... 50?

[strong field]

But that makes the thrill when using Torid! THAT'S what making them fun!

[coarse basin]

I shrimply dont use torid

[strong field]

I'm not saying use it, but I'm saying that incarnoff is so underrated

[gusty turtle]

How much ammo does Incarnoff Torid have?

[strong field]

It's ok

[gusty turtle]

Actually I'll just check online...

[strong field]

Mine 16 with the ammo reserve of 60

I kill a lot so it doesn't really matter

Originally it's 4 with the ammo reserve of 60

And if I don't get any refill of my ammo reserve, that's when I use Incarnon

It's an alt fire for a reason, my emergency

[gusty turtle]

Pretty good huh

Evos seem nice for it as well

[strong field]

Yeah it's the reason why I love using it with Lavos

It fits thematically (yes I know Cedo is his signature) and damage wise since I use incarnoff a lot, it crank it up

[willow bluff]

Remind me, is vauban getting an ability which can deploy a sticky turret at walls?

[strong field]

Yes

The mine layers (2) can be on the walls as they say

[willow bluff]

Now I'm wondering...

How about projectiles with collisions...

[gusty turtle]

Flechette and tether become one, and now they stick to walls

[strong field]

Hmmm good point

Good thinking

What is in your mind with it

[willow bluff]

Imagine being able to put it onto something which can already fly and has collision on.

[strong field]

Ooo ooooo

That's deadass sick!

[willow bluff]

Or putting it on ur atomicycle.

Hell even necramech.

[strong field]

Or in bounties when hacking, put it on the hacked drone hahahaha

IF it worked.... Oooo boi

My CC King is more powerful than he is before

[willow bluff]

Or on the wind shield of shielded dargyns in plains...

[gusty turtle]

Bastille cap removal already does that tbh

Max range Vauban about to hit hard

[strong field]

Hahahahah we go on Andres on this (those who read solo leveling in th manhwa thank you)

[gusty turtle]

We go to Hydron

[strong field]

We chillin

They be swallowed in an instant

But with the limit of 4 Bastille and 4 Vortex now (8 spheres)

Beyond that is just replacement

Good thing no Blind-ban

I hate when they use my CC King just to annoy other players

[willow bluff]

I can already imagine heirloom vauban aura farming on atomicycle with 2 turrets placed on each side of the bike while he's driving through mobs of enemies and the turrets are getting rid of them.

[strong field]

I mean In the prime he be aura farming already

[willow bluff]

Duplex Bond clones also have collisions right...

[strong field]

That I don't know.... But I see where your getting at gagagag

[potent condor]

I feel like Sevagoth needs a slight rework. I get that having Shadow's full loadout during your bleedout is a little OP, but the bleedout passive is kind of pointless when it gets insta cancelled by nullifiers, and your one and only option is just this

[willow bluff]

Also stalker specter
He doesn't teleport to u unlike other specters.

[strong field]

That's true

Aight imma go sleep and when morning comes... It's game on

[willow bluff]

I asked them let us enter bleedout only when we fail the shadow minigame so that we could also get the chance of using last gasp.

But on the contrary they ended up nerfing Nokko's passive for arbi as well.

[potent condor]

I'd be fully okay with only using Shadow, if we get Last Gasp buffs (more damage the less time you have), and we are limited to Shadow's claws instead of his 2, considering the hitbox is janky, and it sends enemies flying away.

[unreal ruin]

guys

whats a gun platfrom?

[potent condor]

A platform from GUN, a Sonic universe government

Kidding, I don't know I'm tired

[daring sparrow]

guys, why does my entrance to le cathedrale disappear?

[potent condor]

Completed Old Peace?

[daring sparrow]

a build revolving around buffing whatever the gun you're using

[unreal ruin]

oh alr

[daring sparrow]

i finished it a long time ago

[unreal ruin]

also should I buy arcane aegis? I need it for my gauss build but idk if its possible for it to drop for me

still havent got to SP

[daring sparrow]

yeah you can buy if you want

[unreal ruin]

btw does it drop in zarimann?

[gusty turtle]

Warframe whose abilities/builds are mostly focused on improving your weapon performance

[sly storm]

Aegis is from eidolons iirc

[boreal pier]

it should be rly cheap, you only need a rank 0 for gauss to work with it

[daring sparrow]

does anyone know why does the entrance to la cathedrale turned into this?

i want to see marie 😭

[unreal ruin]

yeah its like 6p lol

[unreal ruin]

ooh yeah checked wiki

I ended up buying it

[sly storm]

It’s really cheap now because of the arcane gacha I think

[unreal ruin]

btw how do I calculate my ability duration? I have a duration of 169% on gauss

how do I convert that to seconds for my 4

[red path]

base duration x 1.69

or you can hover ability icon in upgrade menu to see the already calculated value

[umbral fulcrum]

or just hover yer mouse over the abilities to the left

[umbral fulcrum]

that one reminds me of that quest pre- umbra's

when they introduced bal d. ass

[oblique sequoia]

I accidentally went into SP Void Cascade but I'm glad I stuck it out

Lotta Arcanes

[vestal ivy]

does anyone know the best prime to get from varzia rn with just aya

[umbral fulcrum]

what are the options

and how ya like playin?

[red path]

all prime frames are good

[vestal ivy]

theres harrow, ivara, nekros, oberon, valkyr, saryn, garuda and khora

[umbral fulcrum]

except ivara all solid

[vestal ivy]

okay ty, any reason why tho?

[oblique sequoia]

Thanks for telling me that Khora is on there. I just opened all the relics I have for her and am still missing her main bp lol

[red path]

ivara is good too, but not for "normal" gameplay

[red holly]

I feel like experimenting with less popular weapons

[umbral fulcrum]

cuz ivara is good just for:spy stuff, simaris standing, animal capture and fishin

[vestal ivy]

np, she’s there for 3 regal aya rn

[silver breach]

another person who says Ivara is only for spy

[oblique sequoia]

Nah, I'm getting relics. I'm broke XD

[red holly]

careful or you might summon the wrath of ivara mains

[umbral fulcrum]

I love doin that cuz they be jelly xD

[umbral fulcrum]

bruda// u are the jellyfish master ffs

[red path]

from weapons I liked sybaris, dual keres, hystrix and nikana primes

[rotund pulsar]

why is one just called Death

[umbral fulcrum]

keres are good

[red path]

sybaris has incarnon so you better get at least it

[red holly]

It's been a long time since I've used sybaris

[umbral fulcrum]

welp..used to love sibaris dex.... now I have vinc that has m1 grand clip pop

[red path]

hystrix is a good weapon for koumei, too bad it's khora signature

btw, it's not the end of this resurgence, next week is "last chance" where you get all relics from this and previous resurgence

I suggest you get latron prime, it's also all common drops

[idle fossil]

im one valk chassis away from getting all the frames from both resurgences, just gotta decide if any weapons are OMG i want that.. im so tired of aya

[umbral fulcrum]

am I the only one who trades aya for cosmetics and if already have... ducats?

[red path]

I never used aya to buy ducats, it's better to run relics, but I did buy a lot of cosmetics

[neon lantern]

i traded aya for void traces

[umbral fulcrum]

BRO, did they change the red-text guy?

[neon lantern]

spicy I assume?

[umbral fulcrum]

no, is toned down af

[neon lantern]

oh, what it be saying

[umbral fulcrum]

nvm... he was revin up a lil

[neon lantern]

ah ok

[red holly]

red text in form

[neon lantern]

huh so the dagath lunar stuff coming now, a bit early but ok

[mortal shoal]

hi all, i have a question, im trying to get the mod buzz kill, and it says its obtained from killing eidolon, in this case can i get it by doing the cull eidolon quest?

[red path]

yes, any of the eidolon bounties, or just killing it in plains without bounty

[mortal shoal]

oki

[white badger]

does this usually happen

[red holly]

yes

[neon lantern]

yes

[white badger]

alot of ppl downloading patch huh

[red path]

wait, wiki say it's hydrolyst, so you need the bounty where you kill 3 of them (hy is 3rd)

[neon lantern]

yeah and alot of ppl need to calm tf down too

[white badger]

oh got it its downloading 😛

[vestal ivy]

is 43 plat for gauss prime set a good trade?

[white badger]

i got mine for around 40

[mortal shoal]

so its the cull eidolon, not the kill 1 eidolon ones?

[white badger]

he's basically my go to frame when i need difficult content

[red path]

update is still deploying, no redtext message about it finished patching

[vestal ivy]

its time to step on the gauss then!

[red path]

yes

[lofty garden]

Dropping an update the same day NMS updates is brave.

[mortal shoal]

okii, tqq

[white badger]

really fun frame

[vestal ivy]

I agree, the videos online are addictive to watch

[white badger]

check on overframe his builds. i think its aegis arcane, his passive and fast deflection that make you basically unkillable except for toxic dmg

[ripe palm]

Hi guys, should I ask for help in the prayers helping players feed or can I ask here?

[white badger]

also his 4 is really good for weapon platforming. and of course his 1 is the flash ability

[silver breach]

you can ask here

[oblique sequoia]

Almost done installing the update

Got out of Descendia just in time lol

[ripe palm]

I need nitain extract and need to complete the hydrolist hunter challenge in night wave, I’m a new Tenno so I can’t do it, I was wondering if someone could help me out with it?

[red holly]

what I like about vauban's heirloon the most is actually his jacket

[oblique sequoia]

You can ask in #squad-recruitment !

[oblique sequoia]

I will have him peeled

[ripe palm]

Oh thank you!!

[unreal ruin]

hiya noise which mr you on now

[lofty garden]

You can just join a public squad. One or two people will probably carry the tridolon.

[oblique sequoia]

No worries! Have fun!

[unreal ruin]

I would recommend saying this in the recuritment chat in game or maybe qna

[ripe palm]

I tried that :(

[unreal ruin]

if you have a clan or alliance you can ask them as well

[ripe palm]

Most people are off at the moment

It’s 3am in Aus

[brisk copper]

Vouban heirloom and buff is out!!!

[unreal ruin]

I would help except my amp is shit lmao

[brisk copper]

[ripe palm]

Thank you anyways

[unreal ruin]

trainman gonna go brbrbrrr

[oblique sequoia]

Not my update being corrupted

LMAO

[unreal ruin]

mine is perfect somehow

damn bootup is faster now

[red holly]

time to go back to trainman

[oblique sequoia]

Congrats 😭

[idle fossil]

It looks so dang cool

[oblique sequoia]

I got trainman recently just for this, actually

[unreal ruin]

I have the parts for him

but never built him

also am I cooking with gauss build>

[oblique sequoia]

I remember I had a lot of fun with him when I was a newer player and now I wanna see how the retouch has affected him

[unreal ruin]

oh damn

android canada is out

[oblique sequoia]

It is!

Next week is global, iirc

[idle fossil]

having turrets be a tap and hold instead of a cycle.. oh crap went to far cycle again

[primal halo]

did they add LOS to vauban's 4? my main issue with him was enemies getting stuck behind walls 2 rooms away from me

[silver breach]

i dont think so

[unreal ruin]

damn

I finally get my rewards as well

[primal halo]

ah, dang, i was hoping for it

[silver breach]

yeah I agree it should have LOS

[primal halo]

most crowd control abilities should

[sullen sleet]

whats this?

a memorial?

[silver breach]

To replay old peace I think

[oblique sequoia]

Welp... Time to cry again

[oblique sequoia]

Nah, you can play The Old Peace with the codex. This is for the names you chose during certain points of the quest

I can't log back in

[idle fossil]

mines two of my clan mates that dont play anymore, nice little thing

[white badger]

i think they said you could replay old peace for a trinket whatever that means

[ancient pulsar]

Same xd

[unreal ruin]

you got to old peace?

[oblique sequoia]

I'm stuck on "Checking for new content"

Is it bc I saw a screen that said my update was corrupted? Do I have to reinstall?

Oh nvm. Update failed lol

Lotta people downloading it rn, I guess XD

[white badger]

i beat old peace once

[weak prairie]

anyone else's Hex get reset?

[oblique sequoia]

Oh wat

[round spear]

Uhhh, why did Letties Kim randomly reset?

[weak prairie]

my entire hex is back to "friendly"

[oblique sequoia]

I closed my launcher for now bc I couldn't download anything

[round spear]

Everyone has remained the same, “Close Friends” and “Loved”

But Lettie has been reset to Neutral

[oblique sequoia]

Bugframe strikes again 😭

[red path]

no, I just got randomly new (or old but i never saw it) conversation with Lettie

[round spear]

Same here. You’ll find that only Lettie has been reset to Neutral

[weak prairie]

really bad this time lol look at general

the roathe and harrow pics specifically

[oblique sequoia]

My Switch update is going by much smoother than on Steam

I may have to forego updating on Steam until tomorrow.

[jagged rain]

I lost my relationship with everyone(((((

[marble rover]

Guys did they forget to change the plat packs?

[random solstice]

unlucky guys

[weak prairie]

same

ts sucks

[round spear]

Don’t worry guys, according to the Forums they’re aware of the KIM bug

[oblique sequoia]

Hopefully it's easy to roll back

[round spear]

Should be, there’s been a KIM bug with every recent update I think

[young fjord]

Gonna be on the 17th

[rotund pulsar]

What is the KIM bug, like should i just not do any conversations? I dont understand the announcement

[tired nova]

and yet the kims are broken again...i just reset them

there's no punishment or worry for missing a day right? they pasue completly?

[round spear]

Yes, if you have the option to start a conversation, dont. I made that mistake and it reset my rank with Lettie

[oblique sequoia]

Yeah

[oblique sequoia]

They're looking for a solution for your issue, too!

[tired nova]

oh good, hopefully the introduction convos dont break anything

[oblique sequoia]

DE Juice just said so in general

I gave up updating my game. I'm gonna try tomorrow morning

[rotund pulsar]

Honestly the KIM system is both one of the best things to have happened to warframe and one of the worst, i imagine all these bugs and the need to reset to fix them has ultimately soured people's opinion on it and by association warframe (it is after all extremely time consuming to have to reset)

[rotund pulsar]

And the fact that resetting is essentially a feature with the devil's triad probably does not help

[oblique sequoia]

As someone who only reset once... I was really sad. But it goes away rather quickly bc of how great the writing is. Though my issue is that I didn't get the fresh experience I wanted due to a bug that prevented me from romancing Roathe

[round spear]

I hope mine dont reset, I literally just redeemed Roathe after screwing it up last time

[oblique sequoia]

I redeemed him last time... Mow I mad him worse

I do not wanna reset again anytime soon

[willow gorge]

I mean everything should be good as long as people don’t try to touch the convos (for now) right?

[round spear]

Yeah, unless you’re like some of us and curiosity got the better of you

Luckily it’s only affecting one person for me

[rotund pulsar]

I got roathe anathema by not doing descendia enough and had to reset (seriously, who thought it was a good idea to give whats essentially about a 2 or 3 week time limit to a boss fight at the end of a weekly "dungeon", anybody normal wouldnt think to do the fight 21 times, even if they were grinding for the blueprints)

[winter gale]

#game-updates message The in game PSA came up just after I did it 🙁 Hopefully there's a way to reverse it? Or is it just expected to go through it again?

[willow gorge]

I haven’t encountered any of the bugs but I’d be devastated to have to reset personally.

[oblique sequoia]

They're looking into it! They're also looking for a fix to those that interacted with the bug

[coral compass]

You can get out of Anathema by reaching 21 wins, you don’t have to reset

[round spear]

It’s happened a couple times, when they find out what the cause is they’ll revert our rank back, it’s happened with Kaya in the past

[rotund pulsar]

Well good thing somebody told me that /s

Still a horribly planned feature imo

[oblique sequoia]

It's very in-character for Roathe tho

[round spear]

The new DT KIM was confusing yeah, lots of features and moving parts

[winter gale]

Okay nice, if it is possible for them to revert it, that'd be nice. Was worried I could mess up the relations/bug it out again 😅

[rotund pulsar]

I am of the opinion that something being in-character shouldnt excuse wasting my time

[rotund pulsar]

I mean the KIM chats that is, the roathe fight is crazy fun

[oblique sequoia]

No, I was not excusing it. I just thought it was amusing to point out. I actually agree with you. Sorry 😭

[young fjord]

Look up kimulacrum its kinda cheaty but it got all the flowcharts for the kim msgs.

[rotund pulsar]

That heavily diminishes your experience though

[round spear]

I’m aware, that’s what I’ve been using to speedrun my stuff again

However, I can typically remember what I put because I answered in-character for my drifter, which usually happened to be the best results

[young fjord]

Im autistic and I struggle with the DT kim msgs so it helps me not screw up 😅

[rotund pulsar]

Fair lol, they're very complex characters so I can see it being helpful in your case

[lofty garden]

Unless the experience is core to gameplay (ranking Hex), it can be ignored.

[rotund pulsar]

The KIM is a visual novel, the conversations are it's gameplay

[lofty garden]

So unless they lock something behind KIM (so far only ranking up Hex), it can be safely ignored. If it's integrated into the game that way, I have no problem with it.

[rotund pulsar]

Isnt Lyon's shop locked behind KIM? Or is there an alternate way of getting it

Not like it takes long from KIM anyways

[young fjord]

It locked behind kim

[round spear]

Nothing special though, it’s just furniture

[rotund pulsar]

Yeah, and a scene iirc

[lofty garden]

Lyon's shop has nothing of gameplay value, and to access it is a lower bar than Hex was, as I recall.

Once his shop appeared, I stopped using KIM.

[rotund pulsar]

Yeah you need only like 8 convos with marie or something like that

[young fjord]

Im waiting for DE to add the bookshelves, books, and stuff in the cathedral to the furniture options

[rotund pulsar]

I mean its not a set number, you just need to get her to liked i think

Or friendly, whatever its called for DT

[vestal ivy]

is there anything i can sell for platinum as a new player

[rotund pulsar]

Open void relics once you unlock them

Its not too hard to get relics and basically anything sells for atleast 4 plat (though personally i only sell things above 8)

[umbral fulcrum]

wat is dis buttole puzzle? o.o

[rotund pulsar]

Something related to screens

[vital saddle]

vauban "lite" rework is actually nice as hell

[vestal ivy]

So I basically crack then sell, is it better to get a bunch of parts and sell the set or sell them individually?

[red holly]

vauban feels nice

[umbral fulcrum]

thats what I thought

[coral compass]

Check warframe market

[rotund pulsar]

Most of the time the set is better, but its harder than you think to get a full set

[vestal ivy]

I heard so, i’ll probably sell individually for now then

[rotund pulsar]

Also, check out a video about trading, theres some requirements and etiquette you should know

[vestal ivy]

oh okay then, ty

[rotund pulsar]

https://youtu.be/oq9GTchWlcg

This one is pretty good

[silk steeple]

Can you have a coda lich and a kuva lich at the same time?

[rotund pulsar]

Dont think so

[void otter]

using twilight bait in the ocean but cant find any sharracs

[strong field]

Hey!

You forget to remove abit if dangerous info
The ?si=(insert text here) is a tracking link that lets x website know x user and their Google account is associated with you, this can Actually be used for x website to make more money knowing where users browse upon seeing where a link is.

I recommend removing this
Here is a clean example
https://youtu.be/oq9GTchWlcg

[weak prairie]

actually good to know thanks

[red path]

you can also encolse link in < and > to remove preview in discord

[rotund pulsar]

I know about this but forget if im in an active convo and need to get somrthing quickly lol, thanks

[strong field]

Is fine lol. We all have those moments where we type faster than our brain realizes.

[umbral fulcrum]

dis is stuped

[worthy comet]

Have you not been doing the KIM convos

[red path]

need to do lore parts of the quest to unlock new content, what a surprise

[umbral fulcrum]

only with the gals

thought kim was for romance only...yk

[worthy comet]

Wow

[red path]

you need to do bounties for chemistry then, if you don't want to KIM

[umbral fulcrum]

I want mi face right here so I can scream in peace

[random solstice]

you was starving😭

[worthy comet]

Kim has some pretty cool lore but I guess I can't expect warframe players to wanna read 😔

[umbral fulcrum]

always

[umbral fulcrum]

actually I did read like lettie's pmc basically

[random solstice]

vauban is pretty fun

maybe it’s my shiny new toy syndrome

[red holly]

Vauban is fun, but so are many other warframes

[random solstice]

true , he’s just not great to me. i love the puffer tho

[umbral fulcrum]

how do I avoid makin the tank apex?

[gusty turtle]

This is such a common misunderstanding

Kind of sad

[young fjord]

It seems the tether has a bit of a problem dragging enemies toward it.

[umbral fulcrum]

wat ya mean

[gusty turtle]

A lot of ppl think it's just a dating sim mode

[red path]

and vector pad not spawning sometimes

[gusty turtle]

And that it's just romance stuff

[final depot]

kims needed for a few things depending on which group youre talking about, beyond the dating sim stuff

[umbral fulcrum]

ah wait, u were talkin bout kim not apex tank xD

[gusty turtle]

Apex tank dating

[young fjord]

Oh yeah just got that. Also would be nice if you walked on it thats not the boost direction you get the damage buff too

[warm glen]

is there anything specifically to farm/do in Duviri when it's not Anger/Fear/Sorrow spirals for Kullervo? is there a frame or weapon or something on the opposite spirals?

two hours of envy and i just want to farm kullervo rn...

[young fjord]

No

[red path]

there is cinta you can farm from enigma puzzles

[warm glen]

ugh, fml. i hate duviri so much.

[final depot]

still need to farm clamps for the duviri weapons, and resources for the rest of the incarnon adapters i dont have

[red path]

iirc, archarbor don't spawn with kullervo hold

[warm glen]

it's a beautiful place, but the mechanics and combat are completely antithetical to everything else the game has taught us over the last decade

[worthy comet]

it's different but i don't see it as a bad thing

[warm glen]

oh, okay. i think that's the one puzzle i have done...?

didn't realize it was only on certain spirals

[worthy comet]

nice change of pace, and with enough decrees you can make it even crazier than regular warframe

[warm glen]

the worst part is that DE is horrendous at explaining things

[worthy comet]

i feel like if anyone's made it as far as duviri they'd be used to looking up stuff by now 😅
by no means an ideal situation but it is what it is

i hope they keep making efforts to improve onboarding, whatever they can at least

[warm glen]

also love getting put in with an ongoing experience and not getting to choose any of my gear, so i get stuck with a bunch of useless garbage. i just had a basic nidus, my tonkor (that either had no mods or has been nerfed to hell) and an akarius? not really sure what the akarius is but it seemed like a great way to constantly knock myself on my ass. so, two AoE explosion weapons. the Akarius seemed to do decent damage... when i had ammo for it and wasn't on the ground

[worthy comet]

wait, huh?

[pallid talon]

the akarius is an akimbo rocket launcher

[warm glen]

mini rockets... lol

[worthy comet]

no matter whether it's in progress or just started i ALWAYS get to choose my loadout in duviri

[pallid talon]

knockdown protection is a necessity to use it

[warm glen]

it seemed interesting, tbf. just... extremely annoying and poor ammo economy

[warm glen]

no idea. it just tossed me in the middle of it

[red holly]

that's an issue with some of the explosive weapons in general unfortunately

[pallid talon]

they're strong pistols, but they're incredibly resource expensive to build

[worthy comet]

wait that's weird, that shouldn't happen

[warm glen]

it was an extremely buggy run. it kept spawning me under the Kaith, and then when I'd dismount, half the time it would put me in the ground

[pallid talon]

primed pistol ammo mutation is very cheap right now, if the pistols interest you

[rugged shore]

Ammo is fine but you just have to use mutation sadly

Without psf or another knockdown res source I also wouldn't touch them with a stick

[red holly]

I think Baro recently offered it

[warm glen]

(or ye olde trusty Carrier Prime)

[vital saddle]

so... vaubans really great

[red holly]

yes

[rugged shore]

Bro barely changed

[vital saddle]

nourish is definitly a permanant abliity

[rugged shore]

He was good prior

[warm glen]

i also just really hate the orowyrm stuff. i think i /finally/ figured out how to capture the thing... if you can figure out how to get close enough to it.

[rugged shore]

Yeah go farm isle weaver

[warm glen]

and then the fight after with a tonkor and akarius..... lol, lmao. yeah i didn't do anything. (and the archguns are horrible)

[rugged shore]

No reason to do orowyrm anymore

[warm glen]

i presumably need the clamps it gives

[pallid talon]

kullervo ;(

[rugged shore]

Isleweaver is faster

[rugged shore]

Did you need to beat the wyrm for it?

[pallid talon]

yeah

[rugged shore]

DE making sure you suffer lmao

[pallid talon]

I actually spent $20 to buy him from the market just to get wrathful advance as a subsume

[young fjord]

Im pretty sure next prime ressurgance will have Vauban in it

[vital saddle]

i wasnt expecting nourish to actually work on his abliites

[rugged shore]

Nourish is really strong on minelayer

[vital saddle]

its so nice to proc viral no matter what

[pallid talon]

nourish doesn't work on the fun abilities though

[vital saddle]

it works for me

especially on his 4

[pallid talon]

yeah but it doesn't work on things like null stars or dark verse or fire blast or crush

let me proc nourish on molecular prime de

cowards

[willow bluff]

It works on null star

[pallid talon]

holy canoli

[vital saddle]

i was about to say

[willow bluff]

Null Star procs viral when nourish is active

[pallid talon]

off i go

but let me use it on riptide and sea snares

[rugged shore]

Any ability that eats off universal buffs gets nourish iirc

[willow bluff]

Hell it's possible that vauban subsume can proc it too

[rugged shore]

Wiki has a list

[vital saddle]

its so nice though..... the viral procing is wild

[pallid talon]

does wrathful advance work on null stars

[vital saddle]

i have to ask though, his amp is it a flat buff or multi

or is it just additive

[pallid talon]

wiki says it's an elemental mod-type buff

[willow bluff]

Null Star ain't melee

[pallid talon]

darn so i gotta settle for avenger

[willow bluff]

Avenger itself won't be sufficient BTW

No matter if u crit, the CD is still 1× multiplier.

So u need something like Tenacious Bond or Crepuscular

[rugged shore]

Search on wiki universal buffs

It lists what those are, those affect null star

[warm glen]

i have no idea how or when neci supposedly got in to duviri. none of this is explained lol. not really keen on the spider fight, the mechanics aren't super clear either IMO

[red path]

<@&778745217037238293>

[warm glen]

assuming it was the 99 Redux patch that i missed?

@tough summit is this real

wtf why do we actually have ... a handful of people named ordis, lmao

[worthy comet]

ordis has many fans, operator. are you jealous?

...i can hear him saying that fr

[warm glen]

lmao

[umbral fulcrum]

ordis the player

can you avoid the infected phase of the tank? x.x

[red path]

no

[warm glen]

the techrot phase is the main phase, lol

[glossy violet]

huh 😭

[red path]

you can cheese it if you have a properly built on-call crew (outside of apex fight)

[glossy violet]

the humble laetum

[umbral fulcrum]

on-call crew?

[warm glen]

railjack

[red path]

railjack elite crew mate, there is an intrinsic allowing you to summon it in normal missions

since they carry a modded weapon it does pretty insane damage

[umbral fulcrum]

ah

[red path]

before attenuation changes it was my "delete-this-annoying-💩" button

work on sp juggs and angels like a charm

[umbral fulcrum]

I dont have that intrinsic .w.

[vestal ivy]

what does gauss’ speed scale off of?

[red path]

sprint speed

[vestal ivy]

ty

[winged willow]

So.... I got the flower. Who are these people? xD

[pallid geyser]

im new to rivens which do i keep lmfao

[worthy comet]

likely the ppl you accepted buffs from in the old peace quest

[winged willow]

oooooohhhhhhh..... Probably. I totaly forgot that happened

[worthy comet]

both have pretty bad negatives ngl, i'd keep rolling

[pallid geyser]

okay thanks

[umbral fulcrum]

broz... I think I found an actual tenno that cant read... mr 29 and uses tap not hold in survival lol

[red path]

what tap/hold 👀

[umbral fulcrum]

her 4

ofnova

[red path]

hold is speed buff? I don't remember using it outside of netracell and some defense missions

[umbral fulcrum]

yes

hold is speeva tap is slowa

[red path]

if you don't have good build, speeding up mobs will kill you since they start firing faster too

[umbral fulcrum]

mr 29...

[red path]

just means he have a lot of stuff maxed

[umbral fulcrum]

ah right... deez days is easy to get mb

[rugged shore]

the closest thing id even bother to try and judge experience is the in game hour marker tbh

and even then thats not really a metric due to a ton of variables

[umbral fulcrum]

I keep forgetting that nowadays theres a looot more options to get mr -w-

[worthy comet]

me who inverted nova's tap/hold functions:

[narrow vector]

For Synapse, better Riven is CC, CD, Toxin(which boosts only specific elemental dmg) or CC, CD, DMG(which boosts overall dmg)

[umbral fulcrum]

how

[worthy comet]

settings, you can set em for specific frames

[umbral fulcrum]

😮

[rugged shore]

having toxin built into your riven can help you make space for more elemental combos, so damage isnt always an upgrade

been way too long since i used synapse to remember off top of my head if that space is relevant

do both of them have no negative?

[narrow vector]

i have infected clip also to get viral dmg but i want to replace actual riven(CC, DMG, Status chance) for one of above and im thinking if its better to have toxin or dmg in riven

[rugged shore]

iirc you wanna run corroblast nowadays so having built in toxin helps get rid of the need to run clip and frees you up for something else

id probably take the tox one

[narrow vector]

ok ill take toxing one and if ill get rich somedays ill buy dmg variant and will do comparasion

anyway great weapon since x years

[rugged shore]

you still want to aim for a riven with a negative

big big boost to stats

[oblique cypress]

I see the KIM announcement, does this mean we shouldnt interact with the 1999 Calendar in any way to avoid messing with values? Should we do Descendia too?

[narrow vector]

yeee this is obvious, im waiting for reply from guy which has riven with -zoom

[lofty garden]

Friends take friends's KIMs away from them.

[worthy comet]

What announcement?

[jovial solstice]

#game-updates message

"...we recommend avoiding playing the new KIM conversations while we investigate the full scope of this issue. Thank you for your patience and understanding!"

Just best to avoid the system completely to prevent damage. No real reason to rush in while there's known issues.

[worthy comet]

Uh oh, guess we better stay off it then

[lofty garden]

You just don't interact with the conversations. You can do the rest.

[oblique cypress]

yeah I am going to be plainly out of 1999 with the whole Chemistry values on bounties, I suppose EDA is exempted as no chem increases there

so... no bounties or calendar if it gets to a birthday

[worthy comet]

Luckily I already finished the triad Kim convos

[lofty garden]

Why?

You just skip birthdays

[oblique cypress]

not risking that

maybe the game gets a "no chemistry change" and sets a value

[ancient pulsar]

Glad to see the flashbang vauban is still alive, sad that im mostly the one getting flashbanged now 🙁

[lofty garden]

Eh, KIM can go take a long walk off a short plank. Give me my goodies and I'm fine.

[elfin jewel]

Serious question. is Janus vor just bullshti?

[oblique cypress]

saw a video of someone nuking high level simulacrum battle groups with just blind rage, but I guess that's what happens with forced blast procs triggering each other

[elfin jewel]

i have tried so many things.... and none of it seems to work

almost 100 times i have tried this stupid thing

[lofty garden]

You mean accessing him, or you mean getting to him before the time runs out?

[ancient pulsar]

the augment makes it cast 3 times too, more importantly it sears eyes with white energy colors

[wanton wasp]

welp, my kim chat with the hex got demoted from best friend to close, plus lettie romance being out of the question for no reason at all😭

[lofty garden]

It takes a bit to learn how to navigate the laser beams.

[oblique cypress]

you need to shoot the electric orbs to avoid getting nulled
if you use Hildryn you cant use her exalted, use a primary/secondary

[supple willow]

idk who you Tenno are.. but thank you for being my side ❤️

[elfin jewel]

Going for the chroma glyph.

so i have to solo. i have tried shield gate. i have tried ivara quiver and nuking him with a laetum. i run out of steam after the first shield break. kill all the eximus. then get nuked by the stupid sky lasers.

[oblique cypress]

I can see how its bs if you get your buffs nulled

[void crescent]

Any idea how to fix this? The left side is getting cut off

[elfin jewel]

i dont even use chroma abilities

hard mode my ass. this is impossible.

Nullified, constant aoe Electric procs. 8 nullifier bubbles to stop any steam for rolling. and no way to reduce his defenses to make this faster.

I havent even gotten to the bullshit turrets yet

you have to build him like zephyr because you get no plaforms on the last phase and you have to constantly be in the air or you get one shot.

Shield gate + arial buffs.

[wanton wasp]

i got someone named edgelord lol

[oblique cypress]

I would use skills, if you fight a hardmode without skills you are making it hardermode right? xD I know I got Hildryn brain but maybe add Pillage to your kit to remove yourself of status procs and also some nice armor strip/shield regen
You can get it from Vor himself

[supple willow]

there a way to get more of them memorial things?

[oblique cypress]

repeat the quest twice

[elfin jewel]

no energy. no consistnet energy unless i go zenurik. then i lose Vazarin dash to cleanse status

[supple willow]

wait, seriously?

[oblique cypress]

yeah it was just added

[elfin jewel]

this is pain and suffering man.

i just want the chroma acolyte glyph. im not sure if its worth my sanity. i soloed fragemented one pretty easily after i learned the lasers and stayed my distance. there is no distance in this tiny ass room

[oblique cypress]

yeah for Vor I kinda recommend damage reduction sources

[supple willow]

ha

[warm glen]

seriously why does this keep happening

[elfin jewel]

ill show you my build in DM

[oblique cypress]

and Rolling Guard for when you get nulled and shield broken

[lofty garden]

You're playing Duviri Experience in public, for one.

[wanton wasp]

it didn't say this before WHYYY?!?!?!?!

[worthy comet]

Your duviri is cursed

[surreal saddle]

I somehow took the menu with me

[worthy comet]

Dang bugframe is goin wild today

Vauban heirloom breaks the game

[lofty garden]

Sleeveless jackets will do that.

[oblique cypress]

Seems Vauban wanted to get the menu for sleeves

[warm glen]

oh my god i now have like two dozen decrees, what the hell

i ws literally picking them out for nearly 5 minutes because they just kept popping up

[worthy comet]

[warm glen]

i'm like volt now

[red path]

speed decree is super fun

[supple totem]

Do any of y'all know how long it'll takes to grind out base sevagoth?

[pure gulch]

depends how lucky you get

parts are railjack fissure extra reward drop chance and main bp from doing call of the tempestarii quest

[wise solstice]

Average hildryn build

[supple totem]

Not the railjack fissures 💀💀💀 alr thanks

[chilly jungle]

are the not going to touch tauron strike till the tau system update 😭 ??

[quiet schooner]

lads, is ur catere relations gone lvl down too?

[pure gulch]

yeah they fixed some stuff in the kim so it might have affected your relationship levels

[quiet schooner]

huh? how its fixed XD

[lofty garden]

Remember the mausolon!

[pure gulch]

well looking at #game-updates seems that it might have bugged

[worthy comet]

yea looks like vauban's sleeveless jacket has caused some hiccups

understandable

[chilly jungle]

thats just how hildyrn works ig 😭

[lofty garden]

Mine usually sits around 12-14k

But I have Archon Vitality for a bit more flame.

[chilly jungle]

with or without the arcanene

[gusty turtle]

This is so sad

Literally all Hildryn builds are the same :(

[obsidian ridge]

Yea u want to build around her shields 🤨

[lofty garden]

She has arcane expertise and molt efficiency

[brave fractal]

Should Nourish apply to Tesla Nervos damage and Minelayer damage on Vauban?

It currently applies to bastilles vortex damage but not the other two

[wise solstice]

New build idea

[gusty turtle]

It should apply to flechette. It used to at least

[chilly jungle]

wouldn't strength shards technically be stronger on hildyrn then blue shards since expertise is percentage while shards are flat increase

[brave fractal]

Ok good to know it USED to apply to flechette, i wasn't sure

[gusty turtle]

The rest is new

Only his thrown balls and flechette bullets used to be affected by bonuses

[gleaming silo]

Uhh I got a strange message from the Lotus.. anyone knows what it means?

[umbral fulcrum]

goddamn boomer vibe

[gusty turtle]

So like minelayer orb and the photon orb before the explosion

I wonder if they messed something up, because Pablo said that they will keep the universal dmg increase affecting all of it

[brave fractal]

Yeah that makes perfect sense to me nuclear ... I thoguht maybe I was missing something in my simulacrum testing

Guess I will go check the bug reports and submit one if there isn't. Thanks so much!

[gusty turtle]

You should test Vigorous swap/arachne/holster amp on flechette

@brave fractal

[lofty garden]

Oh, she has two Ability Strength, two blues for Electric Elemental Ward, and a yellow for Parkour, all Tauforged. I can probably drop the yellow if I switch over to Okina Prime Incarnon.

[brave fractal]

will do, good to have more information in the report than jsut 1 piece

[willow bluff]

I might start using more mirage now.

Also persistence wasn't as impressive on lavos as passive shield regen + circumvent.

[gusty turtle]

Persistence on Lavos probably has enough consistency with Orphidian Bite only if you're playing caster

[willow bluff]

Everyone did

It's a decoration

[willow bluff]

I might as well dissolve into the weapon platform slop.

[elfin jewel]

I give up. De you win. screw your hard mode bosses.

[gusty turtle]

Of course you would

[chilly jungle]

but is vauban subsume better or was it already good ✌️💔

[gusty turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mad-angry-cat-corner-gif-12553724565950260937

[elfin jewel]

"play warframe, without a frame, against a level 400"

[willow bluff]

That's the spirit!

[gusty turtle]

Vauban subsume has always been good

Only because of the augment though

[willow bluff]

And yet people forget it can lvl cap

[gusty turtle]

8m is affected by ability range

[gleaming silo]

Oh I see.. Just got it so late I was confused

[willow bluff]

Nah we all got it today

[chilly jungle]

but is it better ✌️🤔 or did they not touch it

[mild bane]

maybe someone here will know: do you know what i might be missing that i dont have the dagath alerts?

[willow bluff]

50% base SC
scales directly with strength

Spam the hell out of electric procs

[gusty turtle]

They added 50% base status chance that scales with str and improved visibility/AI of the orbs

[willow bluff]

Archon shard for "more ability dmg on enemies affected by electric" will make it scale further.

[gusty turtle]

Also free archon stretch

[chilly jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/sageyonce-gif-20853661

[gusty turtle]

It's not really all that better

But it was already good

[willow bluff]

Nah the status chance scaling is ridiculous

I think it's uncapped

[gusty turtle]

Wait, what's the damage that it does with electricity procs?

Does it also scale with level?????

[brave fractal]

So swap and holster amp both work still ..... oddly enough Arachne works too .... even though it is only supposed to impact primary and secondary weapon damage

[willow bluff]

150 dmg & 25 dmg per second IIRC

[gusty turtle]

Arachne is universal too, fair enough

I wonder what's up with Nourish

[willow bluff]

Only the description was changed, arachne still works the same

[brave fractal]

oh ok

didn't realize that it used to say all damage

[vital saddle]

wdym

[brave fractal]

Nourish isn't applying to tesla nervos or flechette

[willow bluff]

And the description was changed just to clarify that regular melees don't get buffed by arachne

[vital saddle]

it is procing on his 4 though

[brave fractal]

it is yes

[vital saddle]

i mean you will have to activate after deploying

[brave fractal]

but all other universal damage is applying to flechette

So nourish not seems to be a bug

[willow bluff]

Flechette has a small base status chance right?

[vital saddle]

i think it only force procs puncture

[gusty turtle]

10%, puncture

[vital saddle]

should effect his nervos though

thats off

[brave fractal]

yeah

going to submit a bug report for it now

[thorny gate]

if i logged into warframe but didnt claim my daily tribute does it still go away after the 48 hours

[vital saddle]

thats actually super weird even with the 10% it should still proc

i mean its gaining the damage buff

[willow bluff]

Wiki says only 5%

[brave fractal]

yeah, nourish is attacking or attacked enemies receive A stack of viral

[vital saddle]

i mean the flecht is gaining the damage buff from nourish

[brave fractal]

shoot

[vital saddle]

no

i jsut saw it hit a viral stack on fletch

[brave fractal]

wait .... is it

[thorny gate]

if i logged into warframe but didnt claim my daily tribute does it still go away after the 48 hours

[vital saddle]

its cause its super low on status

[willow bluff]

Also oddly wiki doesn't mention Tesla being a weapon dmg class ability in the universal page, should be looked onto.

[vital saddle]

im in sim rn

and its doing a viral stack very rarely

[brave fractal]

same .... i wasn't seeing it

well i'll be

[willow bluff]

Base status chance of several such abilities are low

[brave fractal]

I just wasn't seeing it. Sorry all!

[thorny gate]

if i logged into warframe but didnt claim my daily tribute does it still go away after the 48 hours

[willow bluff]

So u should rather see if nourish is buffing the damage difference than giving viral stacks

[vital saddle]

it is most definitly buffing damage

[brave fractal]

yepp and it is for sure .... i just didn't realzie initially because i was testing it with ALL abilities

[oak escarp]

I belive so

[willow bluff]

So it's the issue of base status chance

[thorny gate]

but i didnt claim it

[oak escarp]

Yeah that's what i meant i think it does go away if you don't claim it

[vital saddle]

yes

5% is wild

and yet it force procs punct

[brave fractal]

Seeing the constant puncture is what was throwing me

i didn't read close enough to see it was forced

[willow bluff]

Force procs are separately coded

[brave fractal]

yepp

makes perfect sense to me

Thanks everyone for the help and helping me realize the status chance on that one

[vital saddle]

i wonder if xatas works on his 3

[willow bluff]

Like in case of Null Star, DE didn't realize they double coded it to have both forced blast and 100% SC with blast dmg

Hence each particle procs 2 blast instead of one, however if u apply any element like nourish viral, the viral weighting competes with blast under that 100% SC

[thorny gate]

why would it if its not claimed or activated?

[willow bluff]

So even if u have 5% base SC, whatever dmg it deals will have to compete with the viral of nourish

[vital saddle]

hehehe overlooking lets gooo

[willow bluff]

What about Tesla?
Getting damage from nourish at least, if not viral?

[vital saddle]

i wonder though xatas or roar for his 3

[brave fractal]

yes getting damage

[vital saddle]

or something else entirely

[willow bluff]

So they have coded the SC scaling differently this time

It straight up got linked to electric element

Maybe they have applied some kind of conversion "mod" to tesla

[coarse basin]

what frame?

[vital saddle]

vauban

[willow bluff]

Like Shocking Claws on beast claw mod converts their nourish bonus viral into electric.

So same logic might be used here.

[vital saddle]

imma try sent wrath for his 3 and see if it makes a dif

[coarse basin]

oh
can’t help then sry

[vital saddle]

its fine

theorycrafting to see and not to see what works

[brave fractal]

theorycrafting .... in this enconomy ... you are my kind of crazy !!

[vital saddle]

damnit naut not now

[willow bluff]

Tesla subsume on Lavos might be the easiest test

If all elements of valence formation just boost the damage but not proc their status, then there's a hidden conversion mod used in it.

Atleast Lavos will be able to buff the DoTs via electric valence formation.

[vital saddle]

so sent wrath does work, but its so limited in damage

[willow bluff]

Can also try Shock Trooper

[junior solar]

I used up all my trades for today at mastery rank 4. Levelled up to 5, am I at 1/5 or 0/5 trades now?

[vital saddle]

try it, i kinda wanna know if its super worth

[willow bluff]

I can't anymore

I've used all 12 configs of my both lavos.

[vital saddle]

LOL

good lord

[willow bluff]

He's just that versatile.

[vital saddle]

you at least can get rid of one build right?

[willow bluff]

I probably have null star config on an old one

Though I'm going off to sleep now

[vital saddle]

welp gn

i figured out that breach surge is actually so fun with his 3

[undone tide]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-and-take-my-money-money-futurama-gif-6882124657810317443

Can I ask why dagath doesn't have a cowboy hat signa?????

[red path]

that's mesa theme imo

[fair ibex]

I working on spawning a sister atm, from what im reading magnetic is a pretty good prog to spawn it with? Wot would be better that or toxin?

[red path]

if you plan on using elemental vice, you better spawn magnetic, especially if it's an arca plasmor

[fair ibex]

that is what im trying to get yea

[red path]

toxin sister weapons hit like a truck, I got killed so many times by my tox progenitor plasmor sister

[fair ibex]

oh so u get mag and then swap it ?

[red path]

since toxin bypass shields

yes, but if you not sure about it, you can try to get toxin progenitor from the start, if you have a decent build for hp tanking or something like revenant you should be fine

[fair ibex]

yeah i dont really lol

would i have to swap the mag off to make the weapon decent?

[red path]

elemental vice is not really hard to get, but it may take a lot of time if you not leveled the hex (or not even done hex quest)

[fair ibex]

im r4 with hex atm

[red path]

it will be decent even with mag

[fair ibex]

ahh ok but ill have the option to swap with vice and wont have to deal with toxin on the sister

[red path]

you can buy vice from eleanor for just 50k standing

but you need to spend 5 forma too, to get weapon to max rank to use vice

[fair ibex]

ahh ok but as long as its ok with mag that can kind of wait

[red path]

it's somewhat similar to bows, like nataruk, that it kills with pure damage and crit, so which element is just a matter of preference and build you aiming for

[pallid talon]

she's an equestrian and not a cowboy

[fair ibex]

shes the literal horse isnt she?

[undone tide]

Equestrianswear cowboy hats too

[undone tide]

Now I'm picturing her horse head shoulder piece with a little cowboy hat lol

[pallid talon]

no she's the rider

[fair ibex]

oh , i thought she had a tail and stuff 🙂

[undone tide]

With new skin yes she does. But as for her original she's a like a headless rider right outta Irish folk tales

[fair ibex]

ahhh ok 🙂 that makes more sense

LOL

[undone tide]

De take note I will pay triple for a little horse head cowboy hat shoulder guard. Just saying 😂😂😂

[midnight estuary]

Sparring weapons (hirudo, kogake) don't show on vauban's heirloom and please don't change it, it looks so cool to have a warframe just punch the shit out of stuff

(or implement a plat skin for sparring weapons that is invisible)

[noble oar]

huh?

[void otter]

how do people lvl cap with nekros? he is so ahh

[fervent moth]

Just having good guns and maybe a damage buff subsumed

Only need a couple million damage for level cap enemies

[void otter]

yeah but his survivability

[fervent moth]

Youd just shield gate spam

[void otter]

with which ability that has such a long casting time you might aswell just not bother

[red path]

he has shields - he can gate

[rugged shore]

god forbid you use casting speed shards

[oblique sequoia]

Finally! Roathe doesn't look cursed as hell on the login screen

[rugged shore]

there are a bunch of universal survivability options anyways like vazarin and circumvent / fortifier / aegis or whatever

[fervent moth]

Either speed cast shards or your subsume. Maybe you get rid of his 4 so you can use his 1 quickly lol

[red path]

or you can just subsume molt

[fervent moth]

Nah, you can just Pillage over Terrify

Lots of wacky ways to go about it

[void otter]

gotta need all of em to have endurable casting times

mhm

[void otter]

fair enough

[fervent moth]

You just leave Desecrate on the whole time so his 4 is the only one where its slowness is an issue since Terrify is already pretty fast

[vivid stream]

Hello, I’m currently master rank 14. Does anyone know what the highest level of master rank is required to unlock everything?
I’ve seen people all the way to master rank 30, am I only half way to unlocking everything?

[fervent moth]

18

[vivid stream]

Thank you very much

[fervent moth]

Any more is just more Daily Standing and Focus, which is still useful

[rugged shore]

17 is the highest for weapons, some riven mods can be locked to 18

[void otter]

why would i descecrate in lvl cap? but even base steel path even aegis and -recharge delay cant save bro

[vivid stream]

Thank you

[fervent moth]

More orbs for Equil for energy econ

[void otter]

daily trades is EXTREMELY useful

[rugged shore]

ehhhhhhh depends on the person

[void otter]

the only ability in his kit that is maybe lvl cap viable is a subsumed one... except descecrate for energy econ

[copper obsidian]

what do you do with green arcon crystals

[rugged shore]

maybe back in the days when i used to trade more id say its nice qol, but nowadays i barely trade at all

[void otter]

saryn toxin damage is nice... idk how viable corrosive stacks are anymore

[copper obsidian]

huh

[void otter]

I mean fashion frame is a huge part of the game and that needs plat

[copper obsidian]

how do you use them

[rugged shore]

slap on saryn / oraxia for extra toxin damage, rest is just really meh, damage on corrosive is nichely ok

[vivid stream]

I bought some platinum maybe a month ago when I saw a 75% off and really only spent it on buying prime sets.
Should I have been maximizing my daily trade slots?

[daring parrot]

you need the helminth segment and the archon shard segment

[rugged shore]

my fashion frame going in full force

[daring parrot]

helminth segment is from son on deimos and the shard segment is from the veilbreaker quest

[void otter]

at least u are not full green 🙏

[copper obsidian]

I have those. they green ones just dont show up for slotting

[rugged shore]

depends on how often you are even trading

they are NOT some super important thing unless you are actually trading enough to cap out each day every day

[void otter]

wdym

[daring parrot]

oh do you have the segment from bird 3

[copper obsidian]

Huh, I will check. likley not

[daring parrot]

I forgot you need an additional one for the 3 other colors

[red path]

there is one more segent from bird 3 that unlocks 3 more colors, and fusing shards

[copper obsidian]

THERE ARE 3 OTHER COLORS????

I thought green was the secret 4th optio

[void otter]

Yes orange, purple, green are the extra ones

[red path]

emerald, topaz, violet

[void otter]

Purple is HUGE for melee frames

[daring parrot]

my harrow with 4 purple

[void otter]

or energy econ if needed

[copper obsidian]

Nah, yall are gaslighting me (How do you get them

[daring parrot]

bird 3 archon segment

[vivid stream]

You said I get more daily trades, should I have been using them for something other than just buying the occasional prime set?

[void otter]

🙏 melee harrow?
@copper obsidian combine base colors or ETA and EDA

[daring parrot]

you can combine them, or get them from other sources

[void otter]

IF you wanted to make more plat then yes but if you dont find the need in doing so then no

its just big QOL to have cuz atm im always maxing out trades

[copper obsidian]

oh? thank you all. I will come back with news of success

[void otter]

get dante specters for eta and eda (dont need)

if you have a horrible roll you are so cooked if you dont get carried by teammates

[copper obsidian]

you are speaking words I do not understand but ty for the tip

[daring parrot]

yes

oml they are super low quality

but you get the point

[void otter]

that is evil

can you stack harrow crit chance and wrathful?

[daring parrot]

i subsumed over his 4

[void otter]

wait does harrow even work on melees?

why on earth harrow

i mean a deadly priest is funny but whaaa

[daring parrot]

just wanted the faster melee speed mainly lol

also its funny to have your own personal kill feed

[void otter]

what is that weapon aswell

[daring parrot]

wolf sledge

[void otter]

never heard of it

[daring parrot]

just with the noodletron skin on it

[void otter]

okay that energy sustain is hilarious

Ill have to try neutron star harrow fr fr

[red path]

I use thermal sunder on harrow, and can run energy drain nightmare mission spamming abilities