gameplay-discussion

[pallid canyon]

status priming is always beneficial even in solo.

[fair ibex]

ok nice ty 🙂 not sur how im gonna do such a thing, but itll be nice to tinker and tr and figure it out

[cyan aspen]

why am I convinced that every weapon is shit except the 2 I'm using

[pallid canyon]

invest in as much range as possible

thats really all there is to it

[karmic siren]

i love sending koumei's status strings all the way down a long hall lol

[pallid canyon]

Koumei also really likes breach surge

even with a full priming investment you can nuke

[fair ibex]

i really love playing her tbh, im getting her Fortune augment this evening as well

[glossy seal]

Because there are only 2 good guns in the whole game

[pallid canyon]

Koumei’s only issue is that shes not good for early game content or even base steel path imo

[cyan aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/hope-bunny-hope-bunny-bunny-hope-bunny-eating-gif-6908421427624406707

[pallid canyon]

not that shes bad there, its just that she cant utilize her potential

[fair ibex]

i like her in survival atm cos i can start stacking up decrees

[pallid canyon]

Shes one of my favorite High Endurance/Level Cap frames

not a fan of her in base steel path though

i say this pretty often but I wish she was a little harder to get, or at least not available as early as POE

it would give people a higher opinion of her kit

[fair ibex]

im still a big noob so who knows if im playing proeprly etc but she just feels so nice and different - and i like switching between all 3 of my weapons etc all the time as well

[pallid canyon]

of course, i have little interest in her because she does what my frame does but worse

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-soyjak-pissluffare-soy-gif-25061889

we LOVE status nuking

[fair ibex]

shes ust so different from novas - but she is one of the few frames that has really grabbed me since i played nova 🙂

love the little challenges and stuff as wlel

[summer spade]

Average Uriel gameplay

[chilly jungle]

which oprhix mission should i do to get the shedu

[fair ibex]

sometimes overframe - "basic buid" 6FORMA and potato

[karmic siren]

also if you stand real close to an enemy you've got strung up by her 4, you can hear faint like music box type music playing :) my favorite little detail

[fair ibex]

shes just super cool, i really enjoy her aesthetic

[cyan aspen]

koumei looks cool as hell

[fair ibex]

im using the nataruk as her primary 🙂

[karmic siren]

nataruk is a great choice lol

[fair ibex]

i dont even care if its the best -- it just vibes so well lol

[karmic siren]

(it kind of is the best but it feels great to use)

[fair ibex]

im building her sig mele weapon atm as well

[karmic siren]

ooh fun :D i hope you like it

[fair ibex]

a lot of people say its not good , but i it just fits her whole vibe 🙂

and i got twin furis as secondary lol

[karmic siren]

also fun lol

i got addicted to my kitgun (sporelacer) but i need to find an alternate secondary for when aoe isn't the best idea lol

[fair ibex]

i realy like mag as well, but havent really played her enough tbh

and lvling volt atm cos his hilarious

[opal matrix]

hey guys is xaku prime worth it???? i just got enough to make em

[lost geyser]

Why?

[karmic siren]

if u like playing xaku already sure, the difference is just appearance and some stat improvements but it's not a whole lot

and i think different mod slot polarizations

[opal matrix]

i dont have normal xaku its why i asked lol

[lost geyser]

Xaku prim is good but he needs a fair amount of investment to get rolling

Potato and forma wise

Or if u don’t have the potato and forma to spend then forsake everything else for duration cuz he needs duration badly

[chilly jungle]

why did they make the shedu so annoying to get 😭

[rustic grove]

I just thought of something

https://tenor.com/view/機動戦士ガンダuc-mobile-suit-gundam-unicorn-mobile-suit-gundam-mecha-anime-anime-gif-26884001

[random solstice]

horrible farm

[rustic grove]

but a gauss skin

[chilly jungle]

already doing it

[random solstice]

it’s just those that you need to farm w out intention

[prime ledge]

I cant choose..

[rustic grove]

but the FIN, THE FIN! WITH REDLINE!

[random solstice]

2

[chilly jungle]

should i do the high lvl one or the low lvl one 💔

[rustic grove]

2

[random solstice]

low level i’d say

[lost geyser]

What’s the shedu farm

[random solstice]

idk tho i think it’s sane drop chance

[red path]

right one is better of course, but you better compensate that negative

[random solstice]

railjack

[lost geyser]

Oh bruh railjack

[rustic grove]

it's in the corpus railjack defense pool I think, or that's what it used to be

[leaden spade]

Neither, keep rolling

[chilly jungle]

welp ima just use plat 💔

[pallid canyon]

Her kit is deisgned in sucb a way that it A: Likes large crowds, and B: Requires time to build up decrees
In lower level content she gets neither of those, and enemies die to everything before she can build crazy momentum

[leaden spade]

-94% status duration means no status will stick or do anything at all except blast

[red path]

parts drop for specific sentient mobs, you mostly meet them in sentient anomaly marked node in veil proxima in railjack, but they also appear in archon hunts

[leaden spade]

Any riven you need to dedicate another mod slot to fix…. Is not slottable

[lost geyser]

Ohh ok

[chilly jungle]

anyway can you still do that void dash cancel or nah

[lost geyser]

So I can definitely build her for near level cap situations and she’ll do well without copious investment?

[red path]

that's ambassador, not shedu

[pallid canyon]

she needs about the same amount of investment as every other warframe

[daring parrot]

yeah just left click

stops you right there

[chilly jungle]

do you know what im talking about 😭

[pallid canyon]

she just likes high level content more is all

[daring parrot]

apparently not

[chilly jungle]

can you still fling your warframe with void sling 💔

[daring parrot]

oh thats funny

idk, first time hearing about that

[pallid canyon]

oh slash dash sling tech

no thats patched

got patched with 1999 over a year ago

[pallid canyon]

you could use various movement tech/abilities alongside cancelling your op/drifters void dash to catapult yourself

there was a brief period of time where Excal was the fastest frame in the game utilizing it

[leaden spade]

Excalimissile… RIP 2018-2024

[pallid canyon]

you could clear PoE in like 2 seconds with it lol

it was pretty stupid

[chilly jungle]

i found a 3 month old video of someone donig it 😭

[pallid canyon]

might be new tech or something else

the old stuff is gone

slash dash sling is done

[chilly jungle]

alr

[pallid canyon]

in exchange we got infinite speed scaling motorcycles

https://tenor.com/view/angry-banging-bangin-on-jar-gif-10016927983493740816

[leaden spade]

I do like throwing the motorcycle at things…

[coarse basin]

I think there were other ways to do it

saw a video

I didn't play when it was a thing ig

[pallid canyon]

there were, but slash dash was THE void sling tech

because it was the most absurd of them

[chilly jungle]

ig thats cool but its only "viable" in open world 😭

[pallid canyon]

not entirely true

There are plenty of long stretches

Open Worlds just made it easier to showcase

[chilly jungle]

in most missions its going to be useless tho 😭

[pallid canyon]

it was still faster in some tilesets than other movement tech

thats like saying titanias razorwing blitz is usesless because maps have walls and you’ll hit them

there are situations where its clearly better in

being able to cover 200-300m distances in a literal second made grinding some mats or finishing some missions quicker

the only mainstream “haha funny go fast” tech thats genuinely useless is cross map grendel ball

because even though its the fastest movement in the game, its never applicable since you cant really gather the momentum outside of Fortuna

[chilly jungle]

just dont press shift ig

[rugged shore]

you know its average uriel gameplay when the uriel player just ignores the objective to farm clips

[rugged shore]

in case you still didnt pick it and its a real question, 1 is hot garbage compared to 2, CC is the most important stat for a verglas riven by a metric ton

[pallid canyon]

right is unslottable with -SD and left is useless since it doesnt get you to the required 50% cc

however, right may get you to 50% cc so you still get the bond mod bonus

The only realy reason to invest in a verglas riven is for the CC

[fair ibex]

when adding a forma do you try to add for the most expensive mod first?

somethig like redirection cos it has so many ranks woud be a good one?

[idle fossil]

thats how i usually do it yeah, whatever is going to have the most cut down so i can fit something else

[fair ibex]

yeah ok cool Im trying to be always buildng one , but i only have like 6 or so atm so dont wan tto use them willy nilly 🙂

[idle fossil]

yeah the 24 hour build time gets to me some time. ill usually build up 5-10 and then go pick something i want to build out

[fair ibex]

this ill be my first application 😄

[idle fossil]

just finished the kubrow i pair with my hildryn.. more boom

[red path]

I only started to use forma on weapons when I started to make some primes I liked

[fair ibex]

yeah im so in the weeds with builds with weapons still i really am shying away from any sort of big upgrade like forma or wep potato

[idle fossil]

i havent used a forma on anything non prime that has a prime variant

[red path]

before that a lot of forma went into syndicates/dojo weapons/etc

[idle fossil]

yeah i have a lot of dojo BPs im not making yet

forma cost for a weapon i may not like? hard to pull the trigger

[fair ibex]

i was gonna add one to my Koumei,

[red path]

I wasn't using forma on my frames at all for a long time

[fair ibex]

im saving wepaon stuff for whe i get my felarx

[floral osprey]

there are a lot of newer is frames (like koumei) who wont be getting a prime for atleast a good year or 2 or more and imop you might as well build them to see if you want to play them at all and then when their prime drops you can play around with builds again

[fair ibex]

yeah ok maybe il hold off 🙁 i want to add her augment but im struggling to fit it without losing some survivability

I really love Koumei

I also love my nova but im not really feeling the need to forma her or anything its weapon that im lacking now tbh

[floral osprey]

like as an example my forma from last year was egregious and i think the year before i was somewhere around 200 atleast

[fair ibex]

wow 🙂

ive been building one evry day for the last week

[red path]

everything changed after plague star event, I was able to farm so much forma that I started just putting forma on everything that I thought fun

[floral osprey]

like forma away just like google to see if theres a better version of the weapon your wanting to build (especially because someweapons with incarnons can get more or less stats from incarnon upgrades)

[red path]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1192042132874215464/1464333966810157057/image.png?ex=69863a47&is=6984e8c7&hm=74ccc6b399de14b043d5e93fbf89dd8280c5d89219f0824fd8e55796bce59a0e&

[floral osprey]

i only had the time to farm like 50

[fair ibex]

yeah ive been using Hek for my nova - upgrade is eithr Kuva hek or felarx really

[floral osprey]

hopefully if/when it rolls around again ill be able to farm enough to never need to craft a forma bp again

[fair ibex]

the othr hek from steel people i cant use justice so meh

[red path]

at least 300 of that forma were from plague star

[fair ibex]

i really need charged shell to bloody drop for me

[red path]

my friend likes to make super efficient builds for such event farming, we were basically speedrunning the event

[floral osprey]

kuva hek is a weapon of time not my favourite but you can make it work definetly, felarx is a generically good weapon. especially once you get access to smthn like PSF or smthn to make you not get self staggered you can also just use large aoe weapons and aim at your feet

[floral osprey]

i was speedrunning a fair amount as well, was more of irl stuff that prevented me from doing more

[coarse basin]

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[fair ibex]

for my nova i just want sometign that can one hot charge my AM drop

and i dont use it THAT often, mostly stars takes care of buisness

[coarse basin]

My first adversary
49%

I liked the hek

[fair ibex]

I need to start getting some corrupted mods now to push my str and duration properl;y

[red path]

tbh I didn't farm as much as i wanted too

[stoic talon]

1999 bounties havent given me endo ONCE

[floral osprey]

idk like its definetly a usable weapon without a doubt, im just not to big of a fan of it because if i want a shotgun that shoots pelets my felarx does the job as well as stuff like the kuva khom or strun, plus i mostly just brain off xoris-ing stuff half the time on nova cuz something something xoris is fair and balanced aoe

[red path]

if not farming endo as drops, it's better to run nightcap bounties imo

[floral osprey]

(with influince 👀 iykyk)

[floral osprey]

arbitrations are also prty decent for endo as well

[stoic talon]

amaga no endo AGAIN

the one time i want a common drop

i cant get it

[floral osprey]

how many 1999 bounties have you run so far?

cuz im prty sure that the odds you run multipule 1999 bounties and dont get any endo is like statistically really, really low

[fair ibex]

how likely to get through a vault with all4 keys on me? or should i try to make party for it?

[gleaming silo]

Does citrine exist in duviry as a choice?

because f this grind

[red path]

no

[gleaming silo]

Ofc she doesn't

[stoic talon]

ive run liike 8 so far and im on my 9th

[red path]

frames that have pity shops don't appear in duviri

[floral osprey]

depends on who you play, its easier for some, harder for others, if you dont feel comfertable running all 4 atleast solo then either go to recruiting chat to get someone to help or if you do feel comfertable then either solo queue or open lobby queue and just let them know your doing the vaults and they tend to help you find it

[floral osprey]

gyre isnt in divuri 😭

[stoic talon]

done with my 9th bounty and NO endo

if i could choose to ONLY get the common endo i would be happy to do so

[floral osprey]

what dificulty bounties are you running?

[stoic talon]

im doing the hardest one

currently the lettie extermination

[stray oasis]

Lobbies are better just because everyone gets the reward no matter who opens the vault - makes it faster as you can all split up, and also means you generally spend less keys

I've never had an issue just random matchmaking for the capture mission

(take as many different keys as you can manage just for ease)

[floral osprey]

technically if you run tier 5s 3s 2s and 1s you have slightly higher odds for endo (any where between 1% more likely to 3-4% more likely)

actually yea just run tier 5s

[coarse basin]

they are

[floral osprey]

slightly higher odds for endo and same amounts

[floral osprey]

hardest one is tier 6

[stoic talon]

why is the chance for a common endo so low

[floral osprey]

(tier 7 is the anti virus mods)

[stoic talon]

okay last bounty for now

[paper coral]

how do I make the game remember me since the last time I logged in? I don't wanna log in with my password everytime I want to play. I'm on windows 11 with standalone installer

[chilly jungle]

what archgun should i use with necramech

[stoic talon]

i swear i have gotten the pizza like twice and the endo not even once

[tulip magnet]

nothing can 1hit charge

[floral osprey]

mausalon or nokkos arc gun are generally some of the best last i recall

[fair ibex]

oh is always 2?

[tulip magnet]

it just absorbs 5 hits

[fair ibex]

my hek already charges it in 2

[stoic talon]

YEA LOOK I GOT THE PIZZA BEFORE AND THE ENDO NOT EVEN ONCE

[coarse basin]

oh

[tulip magnet]

well that's really weird

ah nvm

there's a total cap too

[floral osprey]

rip, may the luck ever be in your favour ig

[chilly jungle]

alr

[stoic talon]

the thing is im getting the one i need to be MORE lucky for instead of the lowest chance one

[floral osprey]

id probably say arbitrations is the way to go cuz you get statues endo vitus essence and mods, all of which can be turned into either endo or potentially platinum

might not be the fastest method but its basically guarenteed endo

[stoic talon]

anotha one

[red path]

you know I once got 2 rare rewards from same intact aya relics when I wanted common one, so you should stop wanting endo

[floral osprey]

yea the problem is you are actively *trying to farming for endo, go farm for cyte or the reconfix instead :D

[red path]

you're not even actually farming for endo, since it's really far from best method

[stoic talon]

i made a thingy in the players helping p[layers and people said 1999 bounties

[red path]

get some khora into sp scaldra hellscrub and you will probably get around 1k every 10 min just from drops

[floral osprey]

or you could....
arena endo farming 💀

lowk i think railjack is also not a half bad method of farming endo either

[red path]

the point is to farm for multiple things at the same time, and honestly, nightcap bounties in fortuna have more chances at endo

[floral osprey]

hoenstly the "best" way to farm endo is through things you find fun to do and can do a lot of

i think 1999 bounties are just reccomended cuz they arent to dificult normally

[red path]

1999 bounties recommended because it allows you to farm many other stuff while also getting endo

for example techrot cache give 100k credits

[floral osprey]

looking at is nightcap bounties have a 35% chance to drop endo vs 1999 ~28-30ish % chances (all steelpath bonties have the same chance as endo)

only thing that changes are the arbucept and noko peices

base path nightcap are all 29% tho and have less total endo then 1999 bounties

[stoic talon]

i think im in the vvoid

[floral osprey]

try /unstuck ?

[red path]

try switching the map if your vision won't get restored

[stoic talon]

yea unstuck worked

[red path]

I once had similar happen to me in eda, had to navigate with map to the exit

[lofty garden]

1999 bounties are recommended because there are multiple Endo rewards in each bounty tier, and the higher tiers reward obscene amounts of Endo.

[floral osprey]

yea if you fall through the mesh /unstuck should get you back into the map

[chilly jungle]

lower lvl t5 is better then higher lvl t5 tho

[floral osprey]

its like all of 1% better but still better none the less

[chilly jungle]

all the other drops go down by like 1-3% also

[floral osprey]

im not willing to do the math to figure out which one is best (right now atleast) but long story short you sacrafice about 200-300 endo for about a 7% increase in endo as well as have a potential to get 3,300 more endo

[tulip magnet]

are you comparing the t5 and t6 1999 bounties?

[floral osprey]

@chilly jungle the numbers are right here, the teir 5 endo reward chance is like 1.43% higher then tier 4, it doesnt matter what the other numbers are

[tulip magnet]

t5 works out to about 8.5% more endo on average

[stoic talon]

im going to break my monitor, i swear

[floral osprey]

yesn't tier 5 1999 bounties has a higher odds to get endo, however deep mine bounties sacrafice a little for much higher odds

[tulip magnet]

sp deepmines are like 9.7% more than t5

the question is whether you can run them in less than 1.097 of the time it takes you to run a 1999 bounty

[floral osprey]

tier 5:
15.69+13.73= 29.42% chance to get endo
tier 6:
14+14 = 28% chance

unless your factoring in the slightly higher drop rate for the larger of the 2 the difference between tier 5 and 6 for 1999 bounties is 1.42%

deepmine bounties are a little more messy to calculate because the probabilities are seperate but you have a 30% chance to get 3000 endo and a 5% chance to get 4000 endo all in one bounty, which is alone, higher then the 1999 bounties in terms of odds to get a endo reward

[granite walrus]

Hooray finally

[abstract marsh]

You get 1 of each reward on bounty completion for these. So it's a separate 30% chance and 5% chance at 2 different rewards that it seems like you can get both of?

[tulip magnet]

of course I am

you just multiply the reward by the probability to get the expected value

[tulip magnet]

actually, thanks to linearity of expected value, you can just add them up as well if you're only interested in the average reward

[fair ibex]

niiice - do they look as cool in game , in action as they do inn the pictures? im was a bt worrid bout tha

[floral osprey]

you do get both but you can't add them because then it would be the equivilent of 35/200 which isnt how it actually maths, theres a statistics formula for it and im not concerned enough to do the math for it

[abstract marsh]

That's what I was saying to the post where you added them before you didn't

[lost geyser]

how do yall even find buyers for ur aya btw

like do u just end up having to sell it at the lower end of the value range

[tulip magnet]

it does in fact math like that, it's pretty neat

[coarse basin]

you sit in tc

[lost geyser]

6 for 36 is fine right

as a price

[coarse basin]

and wait for a 6:36 or 6:30 buyer

[floral osprey]

then yea your right there, if someone wants to grab the probability formula for multipule events that happen seperatly of eachother to math it out then they are more than welcome to

[coarse basin]

yeah smth like that

[lost geyser]

i wanna sell it for 36 lol, most people are offering at the lower end

[dry birch]

dumb question, where does one farm riven mods?

[lost geyser]

for buyers

[abstract marsh]

Buyers wanting to get a good deal? Shocked

[granite walrus]

Honestly, if the wings aren’t auto disappearing when … They kind of obscure my vision NGL 😭😭😭

Still worth, I’ll make it work

[lofty garden]

you don't really farm riven mods

[lost geyser]

fair lmao

but still

[abstract marsh]

More people will pay more of a premium if you have a lot of Aya to sell, if you're only doing a trade or two you're not worth as much in terms of time imo

[fair ibex]

shaame last time i griended for wings is was for rainbow wings in d3 spent 2 seasons doing it lol

[lost geyser]

how much counts as a lot of aya?

[lofty garden]

certain Riven mods are a regular drop from Sortie, you can buy a specific one from Teshin several times over 8 weeks, you can buy two a week from Iron Wake, one from Acriths from time to time, Simaris has companion mods, etc. There's a range of sources, just depends on the type of mod you want.

[abstract marsh]

I don't buy Aya so I'm not the whale to ask

[lofty garden]

100 is a lot of aya

[vague frost]

What's end game now? I finally hit mr30 and I don't know what to do lol

[abstract marsh]

If you're doing like 1-2 full trades it's probably easier for them to shop around for a better price

If you're dumping them a bunch at once it might be worth a higher price of convenience

[lost geyser]

ive got enough for 4 full trades rn, maybe not the most ig

[floral osprey]

no. it doesnt. formula for 2 events happening independently of eachother and for atleast one of them to happen is P(a) + P(b) - P(a∧b), you can only add them together if only one of them can happen and not the other. so using some calculator online the odds of either event happening regardless of if the other happens or doesnt happen is 33.5% chance NOT 35%

[tulip magnet]

not for probability, no

but it does for the average endo reward

[floral osprey]

yes. but thats what we are looking for. is the probability of getting endo from the bounty

[static prism]

is it possible to make the music that is playing this room play everywhere in my spaceship?

[tulip magnet]

but why, a 20% chance to get 1000 endo is better than 100% to get 100

[oblique gyro]

Hey, I just started Warframe and reached Deimos. I am trying to get Helminth unlocked and have Volt+Rhino unlocked with Necros and the free Vagath cooking in the Foundry now, but I am pretty sure that the limit is 3 Frames at base which character should I subsume first to make room for Necros and Vagath, when I can?

[floral osprey]

ok but the difference is of anywhere from 200-300 endo and you have much better odds

[zinc lotus]

before i go to sleep

would appericate if you guys voted on [this](#1429852785251455016 message) poll ❤️ :3

once again

[worthy comet]

At some point you will unlock a personal quarters in the orbiter, inside is a thing that lets you play bgm you find in levels

The track you will be looking for is either called "the second dream" or "this is what you are"

[static prism]

thanks

[sweet robin]

Kinda tired to see Hildryn in EDA ETA all the time, no way that this 1 frame can basically invalidate everything those 2 mode throws at her, like those mutation never exists

[worthy comet]

Hildryn is just popping off

[granite walrus]

Started playing for the first time three weeks ago, about 60 hours in. Only MR7 but today is a big day lol. It’s nice to finally feel like I’m getting into the swing of things.

[worthy comet]

Wukong is fun

[red path]

seems you found a clan, that's a very good thing

[static prism]

what is this?

[vale falcon]

Warframe companion app available on iOS and android

[granite walrus]

I only just discovered this a few days ago, super super convenient

[red path]

foundry in wf mobile app

[sweet robin]

Ah yes, zephyr, you can make her own body a nuke

[granite walrus]

Yes! It surely has been, I’ve found no matter where that WF is a very helpful and welcoming community

[vale falcon]

It really is convenient, use it time to time for excavators and checking Baro shop

[fair ibex]

dojo is actually so handy ll

[red path]

clan dojo has so many benefits I can't understand some people not wanting to find a clan

[fair ibex]

yeah clan i joined was just casual + full research, but im tempted now to find one that does grp actvities etc

[granite walrus]

I had no idea who Baro was last time he was available , so he’s back in 16hrs and I’ll be ready lol

[vale falcon]

And he's at earth relay so everyone can go to it this time

[red path]

last time he was on pluto relay, you need mr8 to enter it

[fair ibex]

yeah wot a plum, he could have been there last time so i could have got my prime charged shell

[granite walrus]

I tried to solo runs and content and was getting frustrated with drop rates and my friend said .. why? There are always people willing to run you through things. He was quite correct lol

[fair ibex]

if im farming a boss for bp or something i do public all the time, or bounties as well - but i always try to solo a boss b4 i i do open gams

when looking for drops its just infinitly faster with a group lol

[granite walrus]

For sure, it was boss farming frustration that led me to group stuff

[red path]

there are some times when it's faster solo, one such example is duviri

[fair ibex]

yeah i havent tried grp at all, i feel like the vibe of the content is solo u k

i only tried WF cos i needed someting to keep me busy untill Saros releases but now im completly addicte dlol

[vale falcon]

I'm guessing the Deimos bosses were the main issue

Those 2 are both incredibly painful for newer players

[fair ibex]

i only had one boss so far i legit couildnt kill - was erm counciller w/e his name is, i couldnt kill his adds quick enough so he just kept healing lol - i went back a few days later and deleted him 🙂

[vale falcon]

Vay hek? Yeah he just wants his air, pretty annoying one too

[runic solstice]

Corrupted captain vor (not the void one)

[fair ibex]

but bumping into content now tho, that im slow at / not quick enoug,h, and decendia was a bit tell i needed more dmng

[granite walrus]

It def is funny when im grouped and a fight or level is over before I know it. Like breehs what just happened the mission is over already?

Whole level just speed nuked

[fair ibex]

the lab bounties t2 or 3 im not quick enough at for sure so i might as well stay doing t1s

i do em grp sometimes but i dont like to totally leech

like i dont mind being carried a bit but when im pretty much not doing anything i feel bad, i just run round collecting things doing obvjectives or w/e

[runic solstice]

beat everything except corrupted vor
just too used to everything exploding in one mouse click or a key press

Too hard

I have skill issue

[fair ibex]

corrpted vor iis the dude in the void?

[vale falcon]

Yup

[runic solstice]

No the other one

[fair ibex]

harder vrsion?

[runic solstice]

the normal boss planet but u activate terminal for it

[fair ibex]

ive mostly bee running around and my stars are just kiling everything or one am drop does it, but now im having to actually stand about and shotgun things etc

[runic solstice]

Oh wait forgot it’s called janus vor

[fair ibex]

now im clearing all my nodes with frames im lvlng

its honestly such an awesome game tbh

i watched a dev stream as well and they all seem super cool people that jus love what they do

ive put some cash in my steam wallet for when i get bogo or a discount so i can give devs some money

[vale falcon]

They definitely are great, but some of them are definitely quite the freaks, noting rebb's magic the gathering stream as a major reason (she ate cards during it)

[fair ibex]

lol

i dont like to judge 🙂

[vale falcon]

And I'm pretty sure the game "love and deepspace" was the reason the kim system exists, also because of rebb

I'm not judging either, just makes em feel even more relatable that they do crazy seeming stuff too

[fair ibex]

i think my main wtf moment was when i spawned in as the drifter and was like wot? so a completly different game then lol

and each stage has just improved the game imo at least

im very happy with it

[vale falcon]

It's one of the few games I've consistently gone back if I took a break from it, if a break happened with the rest it was effectively a quit

[fair ibex]

ijust like the wide range o thigs to do , so u can set ur self little goals or "wants" and just work towards it as a side project whie progession

and how frames ca be so different from each other u dont get bored by repetative gameplay

grinding dont bother me, i love a good grind lol

[vale falcon]

Exactly on the little goals! My second ivara prime is built just so I can test shenanigans from navigator (my 1st 3 builds all got rid of it)

[fair ibex]

nice, i feel ike self goals are the key to big heavy content games liek this

[static prism]

is wyrm,shade and dethcube better than taxon and worth building?

[fair ibex]

so u get your little "wins" contantl y its really nice

Wyrm and cube are dope

but always build them anyways so ur getting mr

[vale falcon]

Yeah they're worth, taxon is probably the worst of the sentinels so anything would be better

[fair ibex]

i reall liked the cube tbh

[static prism]

ah i see, which one should i do then wyrm or cube?

[fair ibex]

bt now i got my vulp

wyrm has a cool knockback 🙂 but it might be annoying i guess if ur mele

[static prism]

yeah im fully melee

[fair ibex]

yeah i mean its not often, but its a huge aoe knockback that sends them flying lol

it may be a mod i guess?

lol im pretty noobie so 🙂

i am LOVING my vulp tho, i need to read up on breeding etc

[static prism]

does cube attack one person?

[fair ibex]

it can attack many, but it comes with its deathray that it one person attack

honestly just make a companion to be using a new one every time u max out the last

sentinals u get good mr for i thin? for weapon and the sentinal

[vale falcon]

Go with the cube then, it's good for energy generation

The cube's main weapon is single target but you can put any sentinel weapon onto any sentinel, with helstrum bought from legs being my recommendation for an AoE companion weapon

[fair ibex]

i just need decent claw mods for my vulp 🙁

i got some nice ones for standing which is cool but they are the animal itself not claw

[static prism]

i see

[fair ibex]

and bite? never getting it

[static prism]

other than these robots, what else would you guys recommend for companions?

for a beginner

[fair ibex]

the Vulp from demios is really nice 🙂

[static prism]

im using a dog now

[fair ibex]

is that the predigast ? or the one we got at the start

i got a panzer vulp 😄

[vale falcon]

Vulpaphylas from Deimos are definitely good, and the starter dog it depends on the breed the quality of it

[fair ibex]

but there is a whoe thing with breeding so i can breed her with othrs for better resists and stuff

yeah mine spreads toxin its really nice

its a bit lacking in damage atm cos i miss a ton of mods for her,

[static prism]

i have hubras and sunika kubrow

[fair ibex]

i liked all the onesu can buy the bp from ur equip menu

they are all easy to build and good for mr

[vale falcon]

Huras is pretty good, sunika not so much, due to their exclusive abilities being vastly different in quality

[fair ibex]

i still got 2 more to build

artemis have u done breeding for ur pets yet?

[vale falcon]

Nah, I tried to at 1st, then messed it up and stopped bothering with it

[fair ibex]

😄

yeah it seems kinda involved

but bascially u can just get them to have ALL the resists that they can have if i read it right

im building that diriga now i had some crystals that were about to go bad so that was handy ll

[vale falcon]

It's mainly the free polarities I'd do it for over the resistances

[fair ibex]

i didnt realise ur Vulp doesnt give mr untill u gild it

[static prism]

whats the best kind of kubrow and how do i obtain it?

is it worth getting?

[fair ibex]

i think u need to get eggs for Kubrows right?

u should just make deathcube or something while you work out what animal u want, as they take a bit longer/more stuff to ge sorted

[digital pine]

are the perita rebellion somachords bugged ? i tried to scan one it said already scanned but it doesn't show up on my somachord list

[fair ibex]

oh yeah i got my first Stave weapon today, move set is actually reallllllly good

[vale falcon]

I'm more knowledgeable in the cats/vulps than I am in the dogs, so can't really tell on which is the best dog sadly,

It's just all the same method to getting every dog breed tho, get egg and hope you roll into a new one when you hatch it

You can definitely make an argument for why each companion is the one a player needs tho

[fair ibex]

whats ur fave vulp?

[vale falcon]

Panzer for sure, but I still use my smeeta even after all its nerfs

[fair ibex]

yeah i got a panzer the first vump i caight

apprently they arent super common wich was nice

[vale falcon]

Yeah they're rarer

[static prism]

how do you get relics again?

[fair ibex]

missions can reward them

[vale falcon]

Most missions can drop it, void missions with guarantee

[fair ibex]

defense is nice to earn them i think

[worthy comet]

So many sources, missions in the void, sanctuary onslaught, relic packs from syndicates

[static prism]

thanks

[fair ibex]

i need to spam a bunch of mine stockpile this evening for matey boy tomrorow

[static prism]

so like any void mission?

[fair ibex]

like any mission, the requim missions give req relics

[worthy comet]

Was there a specific relic you wanted or do you just want anything

[fair ibex]

i like to do defense missions if i just want some easy relics

[static prism]

anything

[static prism]

whats a req relic

[red holly]

requiem relic

it has requiem parazon mods

[fair ibex]

its a type of relic that drops runes which ar eused for fighting a lich, dont worry about them atm

unless u have the lich ofc

[static prism]

ah i see

[vale falcon]

Requiem relics are different relics used for beating kuva liches and tenet sisters, which is a system I don't think you have unlocked

[fair ibex]

when do we get the sisters?

[vale falcon]

Beat the tempestarii quest, sick one overall, especially the song in it

[fair ibex]

oh ok, i need to fix my railjack 🙂

it got a little bit ignored tbh

just waiting for some food the im gonna do duvari experience to earn my potato 😄

but yeah im very far behind on my railjack stuff, i got a crappy enginner to repair for me tho so im at stage 1 😄

[summer spade]

When you get Uriel u also get a contract saying you can only aura farm from now on

[rugged shore]

[static prism]

what can i buy with ducats?

[brittle spire]

Is the lighting supposed to look like this or is it bugged?

Sun shadows are off

[brittle spire]

Anything from baro

[tawny zenith]

Which of these should i prioritize building or something
I've just been sticking with the fulmin basically through out my entire playtime

[rugged shore]

paris prime and dread got incarnon adapters, nataruk is pretty solid on its own

[tranquil kayak]

Does anyone else really not like On-Lyne music?

[tawny zenith]

ah I haven't unlocked steel path yet

[lofty garden]

I loathe the boy band

The music is passable, but the Coda dialog lines are just… weird. And the railjack showdown takes too long.

[red holly]

they might have been created to be somewhat obnoxious

[rugged shore]

railjack showdown is fine just never ever do it public if you actually care about time

way faster than lich showdowns that way

[silver breach]

I have "The Great Despair" and "Party of your Lifetime" on repeat 😂

[fair ibex]

wow Kouemi is actally really nice for bounties when u pick up from the huts so u can just keep stacking decrees

[chilly jungle]

ngl they should add somachord to vehicles and railjack 💔

[silver breach]

Sadly in my experience no one takes from the huts in a public lobby, even tho it's the most efficient way for bounties

[fair ibex]

Kboarding while listening to tunes would be rad

[fair ibex]

yeah i never understood it, i mean ur not doing just 1 bountry right? ive also noticed that a lot when doing them i normally try and run to a hut or a seed pod asap and accept new one

its so much faster than going indoors picking up the next etc

also im up to 12 decrees now 😄

[lofty garden]

the game does not save

[chilly jungle]

same thing as people leaving after 1 wave of defense and survival

[fair ibex]

the only time i leave on one wave is if im clearing a node for 1st time but i normally do them solo

[lofty garden]

it is not like Circuit, where it saves state after every round

All it takes is one bad host migration and your bounty rewards are lost

[fair ibex]

what does this mean? so just a safety thing people worried of a crash or wot not?

[silver breach]

Are you going solo for this?

[fair ibex]

ngl the net code for this game seems solid af, my net is trash and i never lag or dc

[fair ibex]

yeah i am atm cos im just chilling

bt if im doing demios bounties in the world i always try to get a seed instead of going indoors

[lofty garden]

There are a lot of glitches that happen in open world. It isn’t worth risking it

[fair ibex]

well call me miss gambler tbh

[chilly jungle]

just do them solo ig

[fair ibex]

if im doing demios bounties i like to do the harder ones so i like a group just cos of how much fastrer it is

if i can get a seed and pick next bounty most people will stay lol

[fair ibex]

this is good to know tho, makes sense why people dont risk it

but my decrees are not gonna allow me to go back indoors between 😄

[chilly jungle]

when are they buffing bounty rewards

i feel like it should scale with your mr or playtime 😭

i feel like alot of rewards should scale with mr ✌️💔

ESPECIALLY LOGIN REWARDS

[rugged shore]

Logins scale with login count iirc

[red holly]

probably bad place to ask but: what all of yours somachord music playing in your orbiter?

[rugged shore]

Nothing

[lofty garden]

debt-bond grab bags tonight

[elfin timber]

when we receive the imperator within in game missions like duviri when taking to long to take down the orowyrm/fragmented one (not when we call it down with the gravimag) does it use the mods we have on our imperator or does it just give us a generic set of mods like how duviri gives us a certain set of mods

[silver breach]

the Great Despair

Either that or the Lotus Eaters Version of This is who you are

[karmic siren]

i usually have Alive Again on loop

[red holly]

this is who you are still gives me chills

[karmic siren]

mostly because Aoi still doesn't sell Lamenting The Days

[karmic siren]

i cant listen to it without crying tbh

[red holly]

it's pretty much the warframe's theme for me

[silver breach]

well isnt it?

[red holly]

I think it is

[fair ibex]

got my first stave wep today the move set is awesome

[celest stratus]

is my thing bugged

like my camera is just stuck in this view

[lofty garden]

sortie just straight up gave me a forma today

[chilly jungle]

that wouldn't matter once plaguestar comes back 😭

[fair ibex]

i did the ghoul bounties and got like all the hunter thingyu apart from adrenline in one session, not sure wot ill use them for tho tbh

[floral osprey]

nah its gona be 12 years for next plaugestar 💀 or however long it had been

[onyx wren]

What's the Vasca Curative even for

If you scan cured Kavats will they give you genetic codes?

[lofty garden]

if your kitty is bit

[coarse basin]

in like 2-3 years?

[lofty garden]

if they stick to their current schedule, then the next one will be in 2027

there was one last year

[chilly jungle]

nah this year trust

[fair ibex]

blood hell i kill that stupid worm in the paradox twice and they couldnt even give me a completed reactor i have to make it lol

[coarse basin]

are we really complaining about reactor bps in the big 26

[fair ibex]

nah just a lighthearted whinge

not a real complaint 🙂

i just didnt pay attention when i saw it in the shop and was looking forward to using it 😄

[coarse basin]

did you at least kill kullervo

[fair ibex]

it wasnt the right thingy

i killed him the one b4

ive killed him twice now

i actually quite like the experience tbh

i spent a few cyles not realising i could pres Y to swap to sorrico lol

[coarse comet]

how do the rewards from the 1999 calendar work? Do I just login to claim them or do I have to actually do something?

[coarse basin]

do missions

[idle fossil]

the note pad boxes will give you an objective, you complete that objective to move the calendar forward

[coarse basin]

kill things with melees, abilities, etc etc

[idle fossil]

such as killing enemies with abilities, melee, breaking boxes

[coarse comet]

ohhh okay

[idle fossil]

the first month of my play time i thought it was just waiting for the next log in or something.. before i figured it out

[coarse comet]

yeah I was like... cool I get an archon shard tomorrow! xD

[idle fossil]

and they can be completed in whatever mission type you feel like aside from the ones that require a specific enemy. if you have to kill techrot you can do it in exterminate or survival

[maiden elm]

So i have changed koumei roll ability, and i saw the "chyrinka pillar" that pulses radiation status effect from qorvex

• and then "Nourish" from grendel.
  Enemies that attack or are attacked suffer viral damage and energy source provide more energy.

= for me who focus on spreading status, what would be the best for me?

[idle fossil]

radiation as a status is unfortunately not very effective

[maiden elm]

But it would help koumei with her passives would iy not?

[idle fossil]

Grendels Nourish is one of the most used subsumes because of how strong viral is

uh.. one sec blanking on her passive

[maiden elm]

Since I can then have her status spread ability, and the 2 pillars to put down. And with massive range it would be a nice aoe build? Compare to being hit and apply viral?

[idle fossil]

i thought her passive was full random, weapon and status.. im not entirely sure if it would work or not

[left lava]

omfg how lucky is this pls. 60% has a chance 0f 0,02 % btw

[maiden elm]

I do think nourish would maybe help to have 100% uptime on her passive ability to inflict random status effect with her weapons. And with nourish, you got viral as a 100%

[idle fossil]

sounds like a good question for #builds-discussion

i wish i had enough knowledge on that to help im sorry

[maiden elm]

Thought maybe gameplay would cover these questions, but i can take it there! Thanks for answering tho

[pallid talon]

you don't need subsumes if your focus is to spread statuses with koumei

4 is more than enough

if you want nourish for the more consistent viral and energy, subsume over her 1 instead of her 2

[idle fossil]

oh sorry, i wasnt meaning that you couldnt ask it here, if someone was versed in Koumei it would have been simpler, Builds will more likely have someone versed in it

[maiden elm]

Not seen much of her tbh xD

[coarse basin]

gives one of her weapons a random status

every minute

doesn't change the fact that rad is shit tho

:/

[maiden elm]

What status is at top now?

[worthy comet]

Heat and viral are still good, blast is becoming more used

[maiden elm]

Gas aswell decent?

[silver breach]

Builds are way more diverse now, and most of the statuses are useful

[worthy comet]

Gas is good on some melees

I like pairing influence glaives with gas

[silver breach]

My main go to for most of my builds is Blast. It's really fun with Xata's Whisper

[worthy comet]

Warcrime frisbees

Speaking of xatas whisper can we please make the infested effect of the skill something else please

It's like the one thing keeping me from using it more and it sucks that the effect is not affected by energy color or something

[fair ibex]

what do u guys think of ember ? ive read polarising reports on her

[silver breach]

no opinion, i dont play her

[fair ibex]

well at the least she is mr 🙂

[coarse basin]

corro too

[fair ibex]

ooo i got a mr rank up as well 🙂

[worthy comet]

From what I've heard, the only fire based Warframe to punish you for being too overheated

[coarse basin]

idk what that means

but uriel punishes himself

he gives things heat but can't heat inherit because he almsot always procs first

[fair ibex]

so you have to manage your heat lvls or w/e

ahh well its all MR at the end of th eday 🙂

so i read u can practise ur upcoming MR rank up at simis? but I went there and it just put me in the trail? what did i do wrong?

[worthy comet]

Ember's 2 has one of the worst energy drains in the game, increasing per second at max strength

Which is awkward since she's mainly a caster

[fair ibex]

yeah i read that , seems abit sucky tbh if u dont have good regen

[raw gazelle]

How do Helminth abilities work

[fair ibex]

you sacrafice a frame at the alter and take one of the abilites of that frame and u can overwerite a skill on ur current frame with one u have stored in the helminth

[worthy comet]

Yea and ever since flare came out they've been considered the better ember

[fair ibex]

f ex i dont use Gate ability on Nova so i replaced it with Roar by sacraficing Rhino and then useing the ability to overwrite her gate

[fair ibex]

shame i do love a good fire caster

[tawdry lark]

Does Saxum Spittle work with Titania's Spellbind?

[silver breach]

theres no more practice, because thats an old system. MR tests used to go into cooldown if you failed them (wait for 24 hours). DE removed that system so theres no use for practice anymore

you can just go into the Trial until you complete it

[wispy jewel]

should I upgrade my relic to radiant when trying for an uncommon item?

[silver breach]

at the end of the day everything is MR fodder tbf. The only things that arent are the gear you like using.

[worthy comet]

Ye

[silver breach]

yes imo

[wispy jewel]

k thx

[fair ibex]

yeah i was freaking out that i might have to wait 24 hours 🙂

[silver breach]

they removed that a while ago now

[fair ibex]

the stealth one is the first one i havent just insta won , cos im impatient lol

[silver breach]

you probably joined the game along after that system was changed lol

[fair ibex]

thank god lol

[silver breach]

so you were just reading outdated info

[wispy jewel]

so I got the common item still

so goes the life of a gambler

[silver breach]

I think you should at least have multiple copies of a relic, then upgrade them all into radiant, then group farm them. Its gonna get really monotonous very quick if you farm it 1 relic at a time

[wispy jewel]

hopefully Ill have better luck on the following relics

[wispy jewel]

Ill take that into account thx

[raw gazelle]

TY. That makes more sense now.

[fair ibex]

so far with relics i havent really cared what ones im doing

i just do them and take things that lookj nice or gold or forma

[lofty garden]

That’s because you have nothing and are not focusing on a single item

[fair ibex]

yeah ik

[blissful glen]

I just died to some random BS and now I need to ask

can SP Acolytes see through invis?

[fair ibex]

i have nothing? feels a bit mean 🙁

[lofty garden]

when you have everything and only want the new thing, the flotsam can become annoying

[blissful glen]

I was playing Cyte on an SP exterminate and then I just randomly DIED a few moments after the Acolyte spawned

[fair ibex]

yeah i guess 🙂 on the plus side u probably have a metric ton of relics that you need

[lofty garden]

No, they do not see through invis, but some disable abilities like a nullifier.

I have many relics I don’t need.

[blissful glen]

that MIGHT explain things?

[fair ibex]

ive just been getting the odd prime bp or component otherwise i choose the gold item for selling to void vendor

[blissful glen]

because on one occasion an Acolyte didn't see through my invisibility and I just blasted him in the face, but this time they apparently did and I just instantly died

[fair ibex]

and i get a forma to craft every day

[silver breach]

yeah thats fine, typically for when you just want random prime parts. Eventually youd want to fish for certain parts for certain gear youre specifically looking for.

[lofty garden]

Violence can cast Silence (the thing Banshee uses to disable eximus abilities)

And Malice has the suicide drones.

[blissful glen]

I'll have to watch out for those two then

[cursive nova]

im using oraxia and saryn and ive noticed something weird, saryn's toxic lash and oraxia's 4th dont add toxin to incarnon form weapons, is that normal or am i doing something wrong?

[worthy comet]

That does sound strange, which weapons have you been using?

[cursive nova]

these. i think im fighting this too weak for them to apply

[pliant trench]

it got fix previously

try re-active the skill again

[cursive nova]

had to go into simulacrum to see it,

[willow bluff]

Toxic Lash applies IIRC.
Oraxia's 4 doesn't

[cursive nova]

yeah the bullets never changed thats why i asked. i just went into simulacrum with steel path enemies to see it actually working

[willow bluff]

After saryn, all coding for frames like cyte and oraxia was done in same way, which means not affecting incarnon, archguns, or battery weapons.

Although battery weapons do have some inconsistencies so they could work.

[cursive nova]

ah

[worthy comet]

Man that's...kinda ass

[willow bluff]

Oraxia was very close to be the best archgun frame.

[worthy comet]

Like, I get incarnons don't need the extra boost considering how strong they are but that lack of consistency is a bummer

[leaden spade]

and conversely Saryn doesnt need an incarnon lol

[fair ibex]

finding ember quite fun for surte tho

fire everywhere !

playing her with the bow cos i love that weapon

[worthy comet]

But she can use them to greater effect than oraxia can, that's a bit unfair

[unique galleon]

Does the sisters run similar to dealing with liches? Just corpus instead of grineer or is there something I'm missing? I'm dealing with my first sister of parvos

[leaden spade]

a bit faster, and less things to kill for murmers, but yeh

[fair ibex]

less kills for all the murmers can only be a good thing tbh

[worthy comet]

Yes they are the same tho instead of thralls you get hunted down by hounds

[fair ibex]

what sort of weapons fo they have ? like instead of Kurvo

[worthy comet]

The sisters come with tenet weapons

[fair ibex]

ahh ok

cool

[unique galleon]

Cool, thanks

[fair ibex]

i swear charged shell needs to drop by the time i lvl up embr in these survival lol

[worthy comet]

Standouts include tenet arca plasmor, a shotgun that fires a bouncing projectile the size of a fridge, tenet glaxion, the tryhard's torid incarnon, and tenet plinx, this game's version of the noisy cricket from men in black

[silver breach]

So basically Kuva Weapons are Primed Grineer Weapons. Tenet Weapons are Primed Corpus Weapons. Coda Weapons are Primed Infested Weapons.

Primes are Primed Tenno gear basically

so upgraded versions of their respective factions gear

[cursive nova]

i wanted to do it becuase she's one of my favorites. and then i foudn out i was using her wrong this whole time

[fair ibex]

ahh ic 🙂 like a tier up 🙂

Yeah Tenet arca Plasmor gets mentioned a LOT

right now i am LOVING nataruk

[idle fossil]

gave my hildryn a cape because she deserves a cape.. now i turned her into a superhero

[fair ibex]

ember doesn reallt need range right?

more str ?

[mellow adder]

how the hell do I get these tags needed to get son tokens on deimos.

completely unexplained game mechanic istg

[idle fossil]

conservation. you buy the tranq rifle from him and go tranq friendly...ish.. animals..ish.. in the cambiron drift

[mellow adder]

Ive bought the tranq and all the call things

[glossy violet]

wasnt there a mission with Biz that teaches you conservation? i forgot

[idle fossil]

actually.. i want to say yes

[glossy violet]

anyway, consult the bible https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Conservation

[chilly jungle]

is condition overload viable on slam melees or is that only for when you going for single target dps

[glossy violet]

i think i'm mistaking it with the animal poop tracking minigame, since he walks you through the process there

[silver breach]

I mean thats conservation

the "normal" way of doing it is pretty much self explanatory since youre just supposed to shoot the animal, then grab it.

[glossy violet]

yeah i was trying to remember if there was a quest that introduces you to conservation (the same way the first duviri quest teaches you how cycles/duviri works) but i'm mistaking it for a minigame that handholds you

[fair ibex]

the poop tracking is the getting animals

if u look at his trade for tags, hell give u a list of animals to catch for a trade in

animals/some materials

some are just animals out in the world

the best tip i got was set friendly aura on and turn it super bright blue/red

and then u can see them from miles away

[glossy violet]

(and you can tell they spawned around you because they squawk)

[fair ibex]

then tranq and collect

[glossy violet]

i usually just aim the tranq at the floor and let the arrows/glow guide me

[fair ibex]

yeah but if its just ranom wildlife like bugs or those flyign things

they dont show up with the pointrs

the arrows just show things like preds etc

[fair ibex]

man ive lvld 4 frames now in this survival missin trying to get the charged shell mod lol

[gritty zenith]

Hey i have a question. Will DE ever revert the change to simulacrum. Which made it, so it removes all the enemys from the computer if they arent dead?
Sorry if this isnt the place to discuss that kinda thing, but i am actually more curious if they ever explained why they did that?

[lofty garden]

Removes alive enemies?

You could report it as a bug?

[fair ibex]

what ar some other proper casters like ember?

[glossy violet]

frost?

[fair ibex]

ahh nice 🙂 i love me some elemetnal caster types, i didnt like chroma much tho

but i only pld him in circuit so iddnt have time to learn his roatation buffs

ember feels like a proper mage type

[glossy violet]

chroma is very much a microwave timer

[lofty garden]

lavos, inaros throws pocket sand. nidus stomps and has a larva, dante, saryn...

[fair ibex]

lol pocket sand

no1 expects it!

[quaint brook]

dante

[glossy violet]

sevagoth?

[leaden spade]

Pocket sand is his worst ability btw

[glossy violet]

baruuk, maybe?

[lofty garden]

Nezha throws a flaming ring. Sevagoth is a ghost

Hey, it's great for finishers

[fair ibex]

i really enjoyed ember but feel like her heal buff is gonna be a pain on harder content

[leaden spade]

Inaros turns into a sandstorm*

[fair ibex]

she does have an augment tho that heals u fromur kills

[lofty garden]

hydroid is a tidal wave

[leaden spade]

And “releases the Kraken”

[fair ibex]

oh nice

[glossy violet]

and armor strip

[leaden spade]

And gets a bunch of dmg buff and armor… hydroid is just great tbh

[fair ibex]

oh thats sounds cool

i feel like ember is reaaaaly gonna need a potato to be properly decent

[glossy violet]

and! he's technically a lootframe with Pilfering Swarm

[fair ibex]

hydroid?

[leaden spade]

Literally everything does

[fair ibex]

yeah i gues but like oftern i can fit some stuff in down ranked and its alright

[glossy violet]

augment for extra loot on enemies killed while being held by his 4 swarm

[gritty zenith]

Not removes alive enemys. You know when you spawn enemys and then check the computer again, those enemys dont appear in the "simulate" tab anymore unless all enemys are dead? That wasnt always a feature.

[glossy violet]

not, like, pilfering strangledome or nekros despoil good, but good enough

[fair ibex]

hydroid looks cool ad as well

i got nekros but i felt his a bit meh , i dnno i didt play him enoug tbh

i just felt his summon punch thing wasnt as crisp as it should be

i should try him again i guess

[unreal ruin]

do I need to finish duviri paradox for the new war?

[fair ibex]

i got him fgor a lootr for when i start to grindfor drops

[leaden spade]

He gets a lot better as you see more Eximus. His dead raising ability prioritizes the nastiest enemies to die recently

[fair ibex]

ahh ok

i loved mag as well tbh

oh hydroid seems like an ok get as well

[leaden spade]

He’s just a great frame really. Not just for loot

[unreal ruin]

genuinely dont wanna do paradox lmfao

it feels slow to me

[fair ibex]

paradox is hella fun tbh

[unreal ruin]

which I guess is the point

I am gonna finish paradox then

[gritty zenith]

Paradox is kinda fun. But i dont think you have to actually. Since duvuri came out after new war.

[fair ibex]

the quest line is cool

[unreal ruin]

you get access to circuit right?

[gritty zenith]

Yes

[fair ibex]

afteru have done it u only have to do the circuit tbh

[gritty zenith]

Which is probably one of the best loot places in the game.

[fair ibex]

i quite like the experience mode as well cos u can get hella op lol

lke 20+ decrees

[devout burrow]

circuit farm tesh

[unreal ruin]

I forgot all the keybinds for paradox lmfao

[fair ibex]

also she sells potatoes which i neeeed

[glossy violet]

duviri is very slow compared to normal wf

whoops that was a message from ages ago

[willow bluff]

I just found out that all Quanta variants lack hidden AoE compatibility tag despite being AoE

[glossy violet]

yup, all hail reworks

[gritty zenith]

It wasnt ages ago. Dont worry

[glossy violet]

ive had 98 once!

[fair ibex]

lol

[glossy violet]

i just really like doing puzzles

[gritty zenith]

Getting my ass beat in that one chess game, my beloved...

[fair ibex]

i prefer the circuit for sure tho

fk that chess game i cant win it lol

[devout burrow]

I hate all of duviri

[glossy violet]

confessing my sins: i use the wiki komi cheese

[gritty zenith]

I mean thats fair. I can see why someone wouldnt enjoy it

Very different from base game.

[devout burrow]

not even that tbh

[fair ibex]

i spent 2 many spirals not realising i can just press y and get my sirocco out

[devout burrow]

just insanely buggy and unoptimized

[gritty zenith]

That game has a cheese???

Honestly its warframe, i shouldnt be too surprised

[gritty zenith]

Most of the game is like that. Mostly buggy.

[devout burrow]

duviri just kinda special in that regard

[fair ibex]

i havent really seen any bugs? but i might jus not know enough to see them lol

[late vessel]

Yall nvr encounter the kaithe riding bug?

I encountered it every duviri

[leaden spade]

I’ve played quite a bit of Duviri and havnt experienced more than a couple bugs ever ngl

[devout burrow]

duviri is a rogue like so when you encounter a bug that removes the ability to play the game during the orowyrm fight its very frustrating

[fair ibex]

once i got keelervuo or w/r i;ll prob stick to the ciricut tbh

[gritty zenith]

My least favorite bug is when you take too long to enter the undercroft. The portal marker just disappears, so you search all of duvrui to find the portal

[devout burrow]

this is one of the most frequent bugs I get

and its so annoying I legit dont ever want to touch duviri again

[gritty zenith]

What bug is that

[leaden spade]

My Drifter intrinsics are maxed and I naturally farmed two Kullervos and I’ve never seen either of those.

[devout burrow]

during 2nd phase of orowyrm you get on the kaithe and cant shoot

[split quail]

Could someone recommend a build for Nautilus Prime? I'm RM8, so a basic build would be fine. Thanks so much if anyone replies! ❤️

[late vessel]

Sometimes the drifter will ride on the kaithe leg instead of on top of it
So the drifter is just getting kicked around by the kaithe

[glossy violet]

i get maybe like owl puzzles not spawning in the predetermined locations, but i've always played solo non-sp so i don't see most issues

[gritty zenith]

Oh yeaaah! Thats only happened to me once. But sucks that its still happening today.

[gritty zenith]

I never seen this one though😭

[unreal ruin]

how long is duviri?

[gritty zenith]

Anyone got a build for this guy. I am terrible at building

[fair ibex]

i need to buff my build a bit so i can do decendia i dotn really have the dmg for it atmn

[leaden spade]

At do you have access to Fortuna and or Deimos?

[gritty zenith]

Depending on how you play. 20 minutes to 5 hours.
20 minutes is more common though

[fair ibex]

i dont really die in it just cant clear enough properly

5 hours 😄

[split quail]

Yes, I have access to both.

[glossy violet]

depends on how much you take your time in it

[fair ibex]

i normally max out like an hour i suppose

[gritty zenith]

DE gave me the power to collect every degree and become the flash. I must abide.

[glossy violet]

most of my post-quest duviri runs are an hour long because i looooove puzzles i looove collecting decrees and having +980% movespeed

[glossy violet]

YES!! +980% movespeed literally takes you to highway speeds

[fair ibex]

lol sometimes im running around at such a ridic speed in thre lo

[gritty zenith]

What drifter weapon yall use for that place? My favorite is the hammer.

[fair ibex]

i havent got any alt drifter weps yet? wth

just the dual sword still

am i missing apick up?

[gritty zenith]

Oh whaaaat.

[unreal ruin]

whats the keybind for the horse in duviri again

[gritty zenith]

You can purchase them in the starting room

[fair ibex]

oh

lol loading in

[gritty zenith]

Load in, and go to the room in the right.

[fair ibex]

damn, i LOVE a good hammer

[gritty zenith]

There, you will find a selection of weapons and a training dummy

[fair ibex]

60 clamps

my god wish i didnt know now

[glossy violet]

used to be Edun (polearm) but i just got the Syam (nikana) and i'm trying it out

sun and moon is so slow and clunky

[fair ibex]

i just use sorrico 90% of the time rather than s & m

erm sun and moon

[gritty zenith]

Im weird. You MIIIIGHT not like the hammer. But you might like the big sword. The hammer doesnt have alot of combat depth lol

[fair ibex]

where fist weapons 🙁

[glossy violet]

i wanna try the big sword next! 50 pathos clamps is a war crime

[fair ibex]

a couple of times when playing i dealy wished for that part of the combat ot be a bit sekiro/arpg like

[gritty zenith]

I know right??? They didnt add the best weapon archetype, sacred seals😔

[fair ibex]

just a lil more deep

nioh2 < 3

those clamp prices are off the chart tho

dont realllly play it enough for that investment tbh

[glossy violet]

the parry system (or just the concept of skill-based big damages) is a missed opportunity imo. duviri just feels like a halfbaked prototype of soulframe

[fair ibex]

yeah better parrys and some decent combos would be SICK

[gritty zenith]

Really sad they added transference mode.

[fair ibex]

eh its alright its only quick, i dont really pop it tbh

[gritty zenith]

I used it cause im bad at the game and need it anyway

[leaden spade]

Manifold Bond, Duplex Bond, Calculated Redirection, Reinforced Bond, cordon, vacuum, guardian, synth deconstruct, and probably like coolant leak.

Modding Verglas is also very important as well. Mod for crit damage and viral. You can add other statuses as needed

[fair ibex]

and honestly ill be spending my clamps on potatoes when they come up

[unreal ruin]

I think the combat just doesnt feel smooth

like it feels like I am fighting with a 5 ton warship

[fair ibex]

its just to hard to skill base ur way through a multi enemy fight

which is annoying

[leaden spade]

You probably can’t get all those mods at MR8 but most of em

[fair ibex]

it doesnt respond enough etc

[gritty zenith]

My problem is the big enemys. Put your shield down big guy, i want to break every bone in your body.

[split quail]

Thanks, I'm missing one or two mods but I can get them.

[fair ibex]

when u got a ton of decrees u just stomp it tho

[gritty zenith]

Also at some point, you can just shoot them with a gun.

[fair ibex]

i find myself mostly just soricco tbh

then a cheecky parry lol

[glossy violet]

getting other weapons makes this a bit bearable, yeah, but sun and moon has no right to havr the equivalent atk speed to a mf Fragor

[fair ibex]

haha u can get some nice spped upgrades and shiz tho

[unreal ruin]

ikr and again th combat just feels clunky

idk how to explain it

[fair ibex]

it wouldnt mind it being slow if u could be precise with it

nah ur making sense

[gritty zenith]

If they ever come back to duvri combat system. I hope they flesh it out. This system even with its problems and clankyness, is still REALLY cool

[late vessel]

It's slow and sluggish

[fair ibex]

give me ninja gaiden combat tbh

[leaden spade]

Verglas is honestly the most important thing you got when you built Nautilus. Nautilus is great but Verglas is very op and can go in any Sentinal or Moa

[quaint brook]

oh they revisited it alright... in a whole different game

[unreal ruin]

lmao

[fair ibex]

some nice air tech and fast weapon swap combos would be ....

[gritty zenith]

...good point😭

[leaden spade]

Soulframe is better than Duviri

[pearl parcel]

evening bau, hwo be ye

[fair ibex]

have u played it hero?

[split quail]

Okay, I'll keep that in mind, thanks.

[leaden spade]

I’m a Founder and have maxed everything that’s out so far lol

[fair ibex]

I am an actual SUCKER for characters like the mage

yeah it looks insane wot i saw of it

wich is, u know, next to nothing lol

[leaden spade]

It’s good, still very alpha. But it’s gunna be great

[fair ibex]

aye, let them cook :)(

[glossy violet]

whats the combat loop like? hack and slashy or more parry-focused?

[leaden spade]

You can do either. It’s a little Dark Soulsy but still feels DE made

[fair ibex]

i just want stuff liek sword to hae weight and precison

[glossy violet]

damn that sounds good

[fair ibex]

and magic to be fkn epic

but im sure its gonna be awesome

like im only 3 weeks old in this game - i only got it to give me something to do while i wait for saros 😄 but now i love it and am totally addicted

[leaden spade]

They are releasing their next big update next week. Big rework of the attribute(virtue) system that will change combat a lot. I’m pretty excited

Rn bashing ppl with a buffed sword is too op and the whole meta

But they will figure it out

[fair ibex]

the thing i love a LOT about this game is meta be dammned

people just play what they like and people are wizards with building so can make anything work

and its so refreshing

[leaden spade]

That’s how I know they’ll do it in Soulframe.
Meta is real and some guns are good fr. But Warframe doesn’t force any of it on you to complete the highest content it can provide.

Gud gam

[fair ibex]

yeah i mean ofc some people are slaves to the meta/fad of the minute but u dont have to

like a lot of games if u dont meta ur just not getting the most of it , but it feels lie that isnt the case here- again im super new so ..

[silver breach]

its mostly because theyve made the Players uber overpowered in this game, and that the content is easy. If they made the Content hard, then i can most certainly say the players will gravitate to the more "meta" options

[leaden spade]

I’m not new lol. I can confidently tell you that you’re right.

[fair ibex]

i think that would ruin a lot of it tho tbh

its a nice balance or so i think

its all about making the grind enjoyable right?

[silver breach]

90% of the stuff I play arent Meta

im not new either

I never use Incarnons lol

[fair ibex]

i just play everything atm really as i need frames for mr

[leaden spade]

Even lvl cap void fissure cascade can be done by any frame with most weapons ngl

And that’s not easy idc how good you are at it lol

[fair ibex]

and some stuff is just SO dfifferent from the next thing it always feels fresh to me

[devout burrow]

its pretty casual tho

like you can afk for a whole rotation when playing in a squad

[fair ibex]

soon as a game makes being tryhard its identity the commuinity just fills up with actual tools tho

[devout burrow]

not really much different from SP

the harder content in this game is usually doing tactics developed by people to make certain gamemodes very efficient

[fair ibex]

i played hollow knight a LOT and it was still kinda niche then, when silksong came out all the bellends that "only play hard games" turned up and the discord what just a den of git gud and mockery etc

dont get me wrong i love difficult games but it doesnt make you some super special person or w/e

theres just a lot of lame people that gravitate to that

[devout burrow]

some people that do lvl cap think they are the shit

[leaden spade]

Ok ok… but “git gud” on its own isn’t mockery it’s good advice.
But the abuse that often accompanies it definitely is and isnt cool.
(I’m a Dark Souls nerd so my perspective is skewed)

[devout burrow]

which is unfortunate cause those people really tank the reputation of that content

[fair ibex]

yeah i know ,. nah ive played all dks game etc

and sometimes u do just NEED to get good even tho the only game that applys to fromsoft is sekrio

[leaden spade]

I am absolutely not the shit fr

I just like being sand and spinning around

[fair ibex]

all other from game su can just lvl past the content

Sekiro actually requires u to git gud 😉

fkn love htat game lol

[silver breach]

yeah I generally agree that "git gud" isnt bad in itself. People just need to put in a bit more time into a game.

[fair ibex]

yeah its cool, but 70-80% of the people saying it are saying it to be spanners

[leaden spade]

Truth

If you ever hear it from me. Know it’s out of love lol

[fair ibex]

haha:)

[hollow storm]

70 is too much

[fair ibex]

liek you said sometimes it is VALID

[hollow storm]

It just means keep playing and get better for me

[fair ibex]

but often it could be replaced with some actual advice

[leaden spade]

Me and my friends who subject ourselves to Fromsoft games have a saying…
“We go again.”

[fair ibex]

nioh 3 so soon i can taste it 😄

[glossy violet]

i wanna do level cap to one day to be gotten gud...

got gud..

[silver breach]

being devils advocate here, I also think that most of the people the "git gud" crowd are saying that to are being unfair to Silksong. They want the game to be something it isnt. The original Hollow Knight wasnt an easy game either

[hollow storm]

You just need the right build tbh

[fair ibex]

hk wasnt THAT hard untill u got to pantheon there was the odd difficult section/boss but it wasnt pants on head difficult

[leaden spade]

We die, we fail, we don’t git gud… We go again.

It’s a mantra at this point lol

[silver breach]

it definitely depends on the person. I legit watched a streamer take 10 hours on the regular Mantis Lords

[fair ibex]

the amount of hours me and my mate spend in dks2 on the bridge in the fire place summoning people for duels and using fingers to get invaded and stuff

[fair ibex]

yeah thats fair - mantis lords were like a rythem boss tho

my HK save file will be forever at 111% i took a break on ab rad and the break was to long when i came back i had lost my abilities and that was that lol

[silver breach]

I didnt watch them further after that, it just looked really really painful for me lol. I shudder at the ordeal they had to go through on all the bosses after Mantis Lords lmao

[fair ibex]

hahah

[silver breach]

(if they continued to play ofc)

[fair ibex]

one of the best games ever tbh

[silver breach]

agree LMAOOO

[fair ibex]

u played 9sols ?

[silver breach]

havent yet

[fair ibex]

top tier game

sekrio metroidvania

[silver breach]

we've had this convo before

[fair ibex]

probably sorry 🙂

[gusty turtle]

Omg were talking dark souls pvp

[fair ibex]

my memory is trash

dks pvp ended at dks3 tbh

when they changed the invadeng system so u couldnt invade solos

[gusty turtle]

Dueling did, invasions will never die

[wanton sorrel]

what frames you guys reccon has the best aoe abilitys

[leaden spade]

We were talking about games being hard and so yeh it turned into DS talk

[gusty turtle]

Invading solos is just bullying

[fair ibex]

nah fam, it depends sometimes it was really cool 1v1s

[gusty turtle]

Yeah, but only sometimes

[fair ibex]

this was back in dks2

[gusty turtle]

In 80% of cases you're just bullying someone

[fair ibex]

i played like 3 k hours lol

[late vessel]

Wasn't there an item to allow solo invasion
At least from the host side at least

[fair ibex]

i always used fingers as well so i would be invaded myself a tlot

[gusty turtle]

I have like 10k hours across games since Demon's souls on ps3😭

I can't talk on difficulty I guess

[fair ibex]

i completed elden ring but honestly imo the game is overhyped

[gusty turtle]

Yeah, except in ds2, where it was enabled by default

And the item just reset the timer

[silver breach]

this is probably a very biased answer, but ill say Vauban. All his abilities are AoE and scale with enemy level.

[leaden spade]

I’m always the blue guy, I feel bad invading lol

[fair ibex]

me and my mate used to pop fingers so we would be invaded then hide as plant pots or furntiure and gank the invaders lol

[gusty turtle]

Idc it's my favorite souls game as a former invader in rehab

[fair ibex]

nah i get im in the minority 🙂

its obv so popular for a reaosn

[late vessel]

Sentinel bros

[fair ibex]

but there was a lot of lazy repetitive stuf

[gusty turtle]

Oh wasn't what I was talking about

Solely about pvp

[fair ibex]

ahh ok

[gusty turtle]

Elden Ring has peak volatile invasions

Though I don't really do that anymore

You must move on eventually

[fair ibex]

but anyways Sekiro is best from game untill they get bluepont to remaster Bloodbourne

[gusty turtle]

Or you end up like one of those psychos

Who quickstep around pontiff to this day

[fair ibex]

if ur not invaded naked and punching people to death what are u even doing