gameplay-discussion

[vital willow]

usually they reply to the ticket and tell you why
either they need info
or give u instrucitons to follow

so required questions....

heres a question here

[white badger]

i offered my id 5 times

"it" never recognize that

AI slop

[vital willow]

lets assume u get a EU lawyer and use consumer law
how is the lawyer to prove your the owner of the account
and not someone who...say....stole the password for the account but doesnt have any of the other info

[white badger]

took 11 days for this shitty resolution

[vital willow]

u can see their delima from their perspective

[white badger]

the account has literally no info to put

only Alias,email and password

i just cant access my email but i offered my id

so they just dont care

thats how a lawyer would go about it anyway

cause im obviously talking to a bot in support

[vital willow]

did u request an email change?

[rugged shore]

How would an id help if you never signed up with an id i am confused

[vital willow]

^

[white badger]

yup

[white badger]

my email adress is my name and year of birth

[vital willow]

ok so...best i can recommend Noise is this

resubmit ticket, sometimes it can take a few tries

or, reach out to mod mail

[rugged shore]

Either way its not gonna do you much to vent here, maybe besides tickets they have active support members in socials like Twitter? Idk what to tell you

[white badger]

mod mail?

[white badger]

i dont use twitter

[vital willow]

#modmail message
they not DE, but they are the best chance to communicate with one of the DE team

though they a bit backed up atm

describe your problem to them, give screenshots
and ask if they can get a DE team member to talk to ya

they the closest we get to the DE team

[white badger]

ty for the tips and the help

i opened another ticket and thats all im gonna do

honestly im losing the will to play the game day by day

[vital willow]

k. gl. throw enough tickets and eventually you'll find one that sticks

[white badger]

just because DE seems horrible customer service wise

[vital willow]

eh they improving. trust me, was worse in 2019

[boreal pier]

theyre not that bad but very locked in security

[indigo cloak]

No cap

[waxen pebble]

what incarnons would y'all recommend? i just unlocked steel path and stuff so

[white badger]

its just that the "account security measures" they have in place are very out of touch/outdated

[daring parrot]

latron is a super fun one. it shoots bouncing orbs of death

[waxen pebble]

well who doesnt love orbs of death

[daring parrot]

cubes of life

but what would I know

[boreal pier]

wut cuz your id wont get your account back?

[white badger]

cuz the questions they give you are stupid af. and mostly revolve around discord/steam or purchasing stuff

[worthy comet]

What about the pyramids of limbo

[lofty garden]

limbo can take a long walk off a short plank

[prime onyx]

I thought i turned off bloom! XD

[indigo cloak]

magistar burston

[bronze otter]

what melees do i put melee careen on

[opaque hinge]

when farming focus, do I have to use eidolon lens or great lens is enough

[lofty garden]

lua lens

Apollo, Lua, has Lua Lens BPs in the rotation C reward pool. Eidolon Lenses can be bought from Bird 3 for Cavia standing.

It's not as important today as it was in the past. You get 5k focus from each convergence orb pick-up (that fuzzy yellow thing).

That wasn't a thing in the past.

[opaque hinge]

but in ESO there is no orb

[lofty garden]

If you're farming in ESO, then you probably have a full suite of five identical frames/weapons, all with Lua Lenses from each of the five Focus schools.

[spring cove]

let me give this poor man a black bowtie, poor Arthur has been asking since 1999 aaaaa

[indigo cloak]

Lens in 2026

[opaque hinge]

Lens help charge Tauron strike faster lmao, it not useless

[rugged shore]

Steel path descendia feels so much faster than eso ever was

[indigo cloak]

Tauron strikes in 2026

[opaque hinge]

block

[indigo cloak]

Who unironically uses tauron strike

[lofty garden]

If they're asking about Greater vs Eidolon, then i don't think they've ground the 7-10hrs needed for a Tauron strike.

[rugged shore]

I never charged it enough to launch it mid mission even if I wanted to

[opaque hinge]

for the Tauron charge, normal lens and lua give the same

[rugged shore]

What you are really buying is operator mods not the tauron strikes and it's kinda sad

[lofty garden]

Any tier of lens gives the same buff for Tauron strikes, yes.

[indigo cloak]

Yes lol

Like nice bro I get like 40 strength

[opaque hinge]

Tauron strike is a nice addition

for example, if your squad die in EDA (dead, not bleed out), Vazarin staff will revive them

[indigo cloak]

I think I’d skip the 5 second cutscene

[rugged shore]

You managed to charge a strike during a normal eda run?

[lofty garden]

I use the Vazarin Tauron Strike in regular missions.

[opaque hinge]

yes?

[opaque hinge]

same

[rugged shore]

I swear I never got them off

Also since randomized gear i dont even have lens on all of my stuff

[opaque hinge]

?

[lofty garden]

Charging is glitchy if you're not the host. You need to pop out into your innner child when the mission starts in order for charging to work properly.

[opaque hinge]

true but you could use any lens that you don't need anymore and equip on the frame. There also these thing

[earnest berry]

Uhm guys hello? Why can't I say the "f word" in a pegi 18+ game?? 🤣🤣

[gusty turtle]

Your nickname suggests you were saying much more

[earnest berry]

You be seein things my voidlugga

[lofty garden]

no profanity

[opaque hinge]

even the game does not say any f word

[lofty garden]

Server rule

#rules

[opaque hinge]

the most is "ass" and that it

[earnest berry]

In 18+ game huh? 🤣

[gusty turtle]

We can say shit

[lofty garden]

It's DE's Discord. Their rules.

[gusty turtle]

We have legally distinct "muck"

[opaque hinge]

muck mushroom too

[waxen pebble]

how much y'all think this could sell for

[gusty turtle]

In hindsight it makes the mushroom named "muckbonnet" sound a lot lot worse

[opaque hinge]

30

[waxen pebble]

aight

[opaque hinge]

def not reference to a certain mushroom shape object

[gusty turtle]

"On what's this one called?"
"**ckbonnet"

[opaque hinge]

ehem

[gusty turtle]

Swearing is usually a different matter when it comes to age rating

Rather difficult thing to balance

[opaque hinge]

the only thing this game have to reach 18 because it have some ever so lightly adult context, blood, gore

[earnest berry]

Funny shit

[opaque hinge]

just because it have 18+ in the tag, does not mean it have swearing

and this game has swearing all the time btw

[waxen pebble]

what abt this one? what do ya think?

[analog urchin]

question how do i go abt getting citrine cuz i saw a bit of their kit and they look fun

[opaque hinge]

I dont even know what weapon is it lmao

but neg fire rate is shit

[opaque hinge]

Mirror defense on Mars

[earnest berry]

Secondary shotgun like pistol

[analog urchin]

oooo ok ok

[queen plume]

Eh 6 or 7

[analog urchin]

thank you bro i appreciate it🫡

[earnest berry]

Very similar to pyrana

[analog urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/yuji-stare-yuji-itadori-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-yuji-stare-meme-gif-2566228405341525362

[earnest berry]

Pretty sure came with Ember prime

[opaque hinge]

you could play 4 rounds (6 minute each) and pray the RNG-esus to get one of her bp, or trade the shard with Otak

[queen plume]

You're gonna be there for a while. Pro Tip (very obvious): collect the crystals. Very distinct "ding" sound.

Also volt is good. Long range kill wave.

[analog urchin]

well i mean its not that bad i played the mirror def once on arbitration and it dont seem too bad

[opaque hinge]

To acquire all of the blueprints this way it would total up to 1,550 Rania Crystal Fragments and 1,500 Belric Crystal Fragments.

[analog urchin]

i have volt although im not sure the best way to build him for combat i mainly built him for speed only😭

[queen plume]

The problem is that you can only get her main BP every 4 rounds @ a 10% chance iirc

[queen plume]

Build for nuke. If you have it, use precision intensify

[opaque hinge]

lower, only the main bp is 9%

[analog urchin]

im 99% sure i dont have that if its anything rare or higher

the only rares i got are ability effiency ability strength and duration for rares

[queen plume]

So color me surprised when I saw it in my rewards one day. I wasn't even aiming for citrine in the slightest. I was grinding for the arcanes and there it was. The most expensive thing in that roster 💀

[analog urchin]

would a resource drop chance booster help or…?

[queen plume]

No. Not even resource booster

[analog urchin]

💔

[queen plume]

Exactly

[analog urchin]

wait a min im dumb resource drop chance is mainly for pickups during the mission huh?

[loud plover]

For anyone that's tried the vinquibus, aside from it's reload asmr, is there any potential in that weapon?

[analog urchin]

its pretty decent i rlly enjoy it

its really good for crits on the primary portion

my build isnt great esp since im kinda new but i been hitting over 100k kinda consistently

i got the uriel bundle when i was like mr 3 cuz uriel looked cool and got it 😭

[queen plume]

A quick calc, I may be wrong: it would take about 40 rounds, to get the BnR Shards. For the blueprint alone.
10 for each crystal defense, 10 from collecting 50 small crystals twice per defense, which gives 5

[analog urchin]

is that for citrine????

[queen plume]

I think we should have a PSA for new tenno to focus on exploring the game, before exploring the depths of their wallets

[analog urchin]

i been exploring a decent amount i have like 3-4 planets completely unlocked and alr finished the war within quest(peak quest btw)

currently working on making my railjack and upgrading my stuff

also i jus found otak

is the corufell or steflos good?

[queen plume]

Can someone else answer this one 😂

I don't have either

[analog urchin]

also i been playing this game a ton the last few weeks and can alr feel imma play this game pretty long term(considering i love grindy games and big damage numbers) so thats the main reason i decided to spend a lil 😭

[queen plume]

I would imagine that they are, in their own way. While modding does the most lifting, you can say the same about 99% of the weapons in this game

[indigo cloak]

Wow my bad bro it’s 50

That’s tuff

Think imma start using it now

[queen plume]

Valid. Just experimented with Nova and oh boy. SP heavy gunners. Erased

[analog urchin]

im ngl i saw valkyr prime and had to get her

... and her heiloom skin

[queen plume]

There it is. Was waiting for that part.

[analog urchin]

BUT IT WAS WORTH CUZ I ALR DOING CRAZY DAMAGE THO

[queen plume]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-doakes-meme-doakes-suspicious-gif-7434634924845802139

[analog urchin]

aye man isnt it valid tho

[queen plume]

Ehhhhhh

[analog urchin]

(kinda basic color scheme but i fw it)

nah but fr tho shes a very fun frame

esp her 4 ability

popping that and buffing with her warcry hits diff

[queen plume]

Would much rather have theme fitting outfits, than just "boobs and ass, tenno"

[analog urchin]

doing like 60k+ per melee and she procs a lot

[dry coral]

I'd say it fits the theme of the Orokin quite well

[queen plume]

Very true

[analog urchin]

i mean i can also swap out the body part for valkyr prime skin

which also looks sick asf

[queen plume]

My all means, outfits are to each their own.

[analog urchin]

i really like the fashion in this game lowk might get into the fashion frame stuff

once i get more plat obvi

[dry coral]

when you get into fashionframe you better be prepared to look at incredible frames and realize that the item was something that was last obtainable 8 months ago

I have experienced a lot of this as a returning player

[analog urchin]

i have heard a couple things abt that

[queen plume]

Yeah. Honestly my only over-the-top fashion frame I have, is Harrow. Even made use of a Conquera Syandana. That and that leaf crown or whatever it was.

Slightly stronger red, gold instead of silver, everything else is the same

[unique umbra]

conquera gets redestributed regularly and krios reruns in every event now

[dry coral]

Not to say you can't make incredible fashion with the existing catalog of items, but sometimes you see stuff from like old Nightwaves or like special Tennocon items that arent obtainable anymore

[analog urchin]

currently my top 5 frames rn are valkyr prime, wisp, volt(i wanna get his prime), uriel, and hyrdoid(i dont have them but they look cool)

[queen plume]

Didn't mean that they were exclusive. Just that I don't have a lot of options, without making all my frames look the same. I rely on free fashion parts exclusively.

[pliant prairie]

are the latron and its incarnon still okay for current contet?

[dry coral]

absolutely

Latron's actually surprisingly pretty strong from my experience

[wanton sorrel]

where do i find the market i need to buy an mk1?

[analog vortex]

Desk on the right in your orbiter (or left, from navigation)

[queen plume]

Cockpit, to your right (when you enter from the back)

[amber trench]

TRUE

[analog vortex]

Hold Q and it's also an option there

[amber trench]

I, for one, do not play Warframe with one hand

I keep Wisp's Auxiliary attachment on

[queen plume]

https://tenor.com/view/get-this-man-a-shield-get-this-man-a-true-morgan-freeman-morgan-freeman-true-gif-25958604

[analog vortex]

I play with the auxiliary off and both hands on the game >:)

I can do both: Slay out -and- enjoy what I see

[amber trench]

bro telekinetically cranks it

[queen plume]

Cranks it 😂😂

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-transformers-g1-wheeljack-gif-8666030510627759962

[analog urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/he-just-like-me-fr-gif-25075803

[analog vortex]

The void has many uses, Tenno

"Telekinetically eats a pizza"

[amber trench]

the man in the wall lent you a hand, if you know what I mean

[analog vortex]

Although I'm currently waiting for a friend to respond and maybe join up for bounties. Standing at the cieling as Gauss Prime doing Baro Ki'Teer's stance

Just aura farming as I idle

[rustic grove]

can I still kill exploiter if someone else starts it

[lofty garden]

It’s a free country

[lavish locust]

If I get the prime version of volt, does the orokin thing work on both normal and prime?

[late vessel]

No you need another orokin reactor for volt prime

[mellow adder]

WHY IS THIS ONE STUPID LAYOUT FOR MAROO'S TREASURE HUNT IMPOSSIBLE?!?

THERE'S NO DAMN DOOR

[lofty garden]

the door is a jar

which layout?

[mellow adder]

idk how to describe it. you get 30s to complete it

ive got one other layout before where i got a minute to complete it

the minute long one was easy

wth, i think i got one now where I had like 15 secs

but i beat it, it was very straight forward

[lofty garden]

https://youtu.be/8T2NiVk4nrY?si=wpqohga8Zxj2lv9G

first one in the video is the one I had this week

Titania made short work of it

Titania’s good for all of them

[mellow adder]

first one is the one ive never been able to beat

i just try it again till i get a different one

[coarse basin]

just wall run

shrimple

[lofty garden]

Not faster than titania with razorwing blitz

[lusty trellis]

Should I swap out the first or last ability for nyx for cyte ability

[rare reef]

Says the murmer resist viral

is that only when they have yellow bars?

If you fully strip them do they become vulnerable to viral?

[floral osprey]

long story short they take less damage from viral damage, yellow health is armour which reduces the damage of all damage types minus slash. notably though is that while they resist it they still have viral applying a 325% increase on health damage (at 10 stacks) making it so overall you'll probably still do a considerable amount of damage with viral hits but it will also increase your other damage which is nice

[floral osprey]

what are you trying to achive with nyx + cyte's ability?

[lusty trellis]

You know how nyx passive gives 200 percent crit chance

For secondary and primary

[floral osprey]

mhm

arcane crepuscular on top i assume?

[lusty trellis]

Yep

[floral osprey]

i would probably say the 4 then but tbh i forget what her 4 does base because i just use the assimilate augment, BUT what you can do is use her 1 and then with the aura that increases weakpoint damage i think to basically just mindcontrol an eximus then mag dump their head to give them an insane DPS increase

worthy comrodery is the name of the aura

[lusty trellis]

Her 4 takes the dmg makes nuke and buff gun dmg

[floral osprey]

up to you tbh, if you feel the invisibility is enough survivability you can probably get away with the buffs from the worthy comrodery, the passive, and crepescular, plus whatever else

[lusty trellis]

So I was thinking the 4th then all strength mods and archon shards with moly augment and that arcane crepuscular

And since I will have high strength her mind ally gets all the buffs and her second will help as a second survival tool

[floral osprey]

im like prty sure you dont need that much strength for nyx

mind control doesnt look like it scales with strength, chaos doesnt scale with strength, and iirc the major stat for cytes abilitiy is duration. i forget what the breakpoint is exactly but the only thing that "cares" about strength is psychic bolts for full striping armour and all that jazz

[lusty trellis]

Her first and second does

And with more strength the stronger your ally becomes

Right now I have 3k dmg increase 72 fire rate and 72 speed increase

[floral osprey]

ah i see ur using the mind freak augment

tbh imop i dont even think you need that much strength for mind freak for it to be good, because your MC enemies their alrdy gona be scaling with enemy level and with something around 2k% damge increase is probably more than enough, just MC eximus like blast toxin jade and the heat eximus

[opaque hinge]

who in DE think putting Demo Juggernaut in Desendia is a good idea?

[lusty trellis]

Yes so with this much strength he should be helping doing dmg and tanking

[floral osprey]

your bolts stop scaling with strength relatively quickly as well iirc because the main thing you care about is the armour strip primarily and theres a cap on atleast armour and overguard

thats the thing tho you dont need them to tank because youll just be invis, so you want as much duration to stay invis for as long as possible and keep your eximus for logner, + your duration on how long you have enmies striped and affected by chaos scale on duration and range the most after you hit the break point for full strip

unless your aimging for obscenely overkilling you can easily get away with having not that much strength

[lusty trellis]

True but its mainly for the first but its also a second survival

[floral osprey]

like just as an idea something like this can probably be a prty good idea for what your looking for as far as a build goes (ignore the dispensery subsume)

and the only shards i have on my nyx are for parkour velocity so you probably could add some stuff like more duration shards and or some ability strength but you dont need to all in on the strength because then you just dumpster the rest of your kit

[waxen pebble]

ok so, i now have the option to attempt new years eve again, i have all the links to the hex members, is there anything is should do beforehand?

[daring vortex]

I unlocked the archimeadas and temporal ones, are these just better to do than the netracell?

[sudden tendon]

yeah pretty much

[floral osprey]

something i just want to make sure your aware is that you can shoot your MCd target for a couple of seconds when you do it and it can give the insane damage boosts on top of the base level which is the primary reason you dont need to all in on strength

[analog vortex]

Oh, this one. There's this button up here that gets the main treasure door open. I usually path it like this, wall jumping / running up instead of following the path. (This picture is from the button at the end, you start opposite of here)

[floral osprey]

yes, you have enough charges a week to do each archimeadia (elite is the ideal option to do as you get the most rewards) and then 1 netracell

[lusty trellis]

Yes I know about that

[robust hazel]

is hildryn supposed to feel like an attack helicopter, especially with her two shoulder rings

[lusty trellis]

Add 25 from growing power 60 from molt, 75 from shards, and 30 from that invs arcane

I will have 503 power strength

[floral osprey]

Ye but how long does your invis last and what's the range on your 3? Because those are the primary things that will help keep you alive

[lusty trellis]

38 max duration

With my weapons it should be fine

[floral osprey]

Like ig as long as your comfortable with those 2 abilities then pop off but imop that amount of strength outside of attempting to make the MC target to be as buffed as possible is probably going to be overall more harmful than helpful

[lusty trellis]

My burston is for headshots and I use the furis incaron

[floral osprey]

Cuz iirc the duration gets more added to it specifically when you get headshot kills iirc so if you good on that then pop off

[lusty trellis]

And since im buffing my weapon crit I can make him scale more

[floral osprey]

Valid, the siccarus and dual toxycyst incarnons are probably also some secondaries you might want to add as they both like having lots of crit + can ricochet and headahot/kill lots of enemies while also having relatively decent single target on headshots

Which can allow you to just spray into hordes and potentially completely refresh the duration in a moment

[lusty trellis]

Dont have the dual toxic incaron

[opaque hinge]

what Prime Primary Incarnon is good rn?

[floral osprey]

Fair enough I recall it being one of the better ones in its rotation, although the furis incarnon is def a very fun incarnon on top of being good

[sudden tendon]

latron

prime

[floral osprey]

I think basically anything other than the miter and even then the miter is prty decent outside of the highest levels of stuff

[sudden tendon]

latron is like miter with more ammo

[opaque hinge]

isn't Latron only for strip armor? against single enemy (bosses) it kinda suck

[sudden tendon]

not rly, it shreds everything

[floral osprey]

It does multiplication damage with gundition overload

[sudden tendon]

on direct hits but yeah

[opaque hinge]

interesting
is there anything Latron can't shred?

[floral osprey]

I mean bullets in incarnon bounce like a mf so just spray and pray

[sudden tendon]

its worked for everything for me so far

its mostly used an an acolyte shredder

[opaque hinge]

nice

[floral osprey]

Probably at high levels you can find stuff it struggles with but realistically should be good against just about everything minus mby bosses (mabey)

[opaque hinge]

though how much object dmg it do? Like Roathe throne

[sudden tendon]

i can do a quick run to show u

[floral osprey]

And even then it's prty good outside of like super boss stuff other than for striping

[sudden tendon]

nvm i didnt do it this week

[lusty trellis]

My wisp prime has I think 613 power strength if I remember right

🤔

[sudden tendon]

i have a clip if it on the 60 eyes but that was on mirahe

[opaque hinge]

btw, do I choose Flensing Strike (strip armor) or Critical Parallel

[sudden tendon]

i think armor strip is better but i like red numbers😍

[lusty trellis]

So I give around 2 or 3k health with alot of fire rate and speed boost

[opaque hinge]

this is post or pre nerf dmg attenuation

[late mortar]

hey i just killed my lich and i wanna exit my railjack mission do i just pause and click “abort mission”? i dont wanna have to redo all that

[sudden tendon]

post

[sudden tendon]

go back to drydock first

[opaque hinge]

show me da build

[floral osprey]

Idk ik I just used my torid for it cuz I recall hearing 60 eyes was less about damage and more about just being able to do damage over a long time (pre damage attenuation rework)

[sudden tendon]

use a toxin mod in place of riven

[late mortar]

thanks

[sudden tendon]

beam weapons are horrible for damage attenuated bosses

[lusty trellis]

And I think 2 to 3 hundred heals a sec

[sudden tendon]

cause they dont have any real multishot, the dmg and status are just multiplied and theres only 1 damage instance

[sudden tendon]

np

[floral osprey]

Iirc the use of it was legit just shoot at it, damage don't mater cuz its gona take next to nothing anyways and focus on surviving (again pre attenuation rework so probably actual ways to kill the boss now in a decent time that doesn't result in a test of how long you can stay alive while shooting at a boss)

And because it gets its incarnon so easy it has great ammo economy

[lusty trellis]

Wait i forgot 20 from zen and from 10 from reg ult and 40 from the rest so I think I have 683 power strength on my wisp with everything

Imagine If I had buff from nidus or jade for more strength

I would give so much health, speed, and healing a sec that you should be beefy

https://tenor.com/view/aaaa-gif-20091717

[floral osprey]

also suggestion for your build, drop vital sense for serration and the arcane for primary debilitate, should get more statuses for galv aptitude to play with and increase your damage more no?

plus you get the bonus of cold stacks which further increase crit stuff

[lusty trellis]

Wait I forgot about the tome mod if I use that that will be another 60 percent so I could have 743 power strength

[sudden tendon]

i have damage on my riven, and that might be a good idea, i havent played too much since the new update so i dont have the arcane maxed out yet

[lusty trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/aaaa-gif-20091717

[sudden tendon]

thanks for the idea tho

[lusty trellis]

I really want to test this out with jade and nidus and see how much power strength I can get and how much I can buff people for health, speed, and healing

[floral osprey]

i think i recall doing some testing and i think i saw it do more damage numbers with that but i also have a toxin CD riven so might also just be sabatoging as i basically have a better vital sense plus the toxin

[sudden tendon]

this is my riven

idk how often enemies are reaching 10 stacks of viral tho

[fresh cairn]

need an opinon.. does the margulis skin look really terrible during gameplay..?

[floral osprey]

this is mine

[sudden tendon]

enemies blow up instantly

[sudden tendon]

yeah ig slot over toxin as well

[floral osprey]

i mean mine is sitting at a 96% status chance and you just shoot into hordes and then bounce around and i think the AOE procs debilitate as well

[fresh cairn]

seems like the lotus skin looks the most. pleasing?

[floral osprey]

its completely up to whichever you prefer and you can always buy the other skins if you really want

[sudden tendon]

ok but enemies have to have 10 stacks existing, which i dont see happening often ngl

[floral osprey]

only thing i dont recall if you can change is the name after the selection

[fresh cairn]

yea but during gameplay, does the margulis skin look as choppy ?

[sudden tendon]

i will give it a try when i get the arcane tho

like i dont think anyone of those guys hit 10 stacks😭

[willow bluff]

Debilitate & Irradiate are bait

[floral osprey]

might also just be a fact of how i test weapons as i test them without any external buffs and against like 205 sp orokin heavy gunners which are resistent to viral as well

[sudden tendon]

icic

[willow bluff]

Besides those won't work against status capped enemies having 4 stacks

[sudden tendon]

yeah i always forget about status caps

[willow bluff]

Unless u use 2 tau green shards just to make corrosive Debilitate work against enemies like acolytes

[mellow adder]

i got to Cyte's 300% crit chance boost in a random level lol

[floral osprey]

thats true, might not be completely worth while then ig

[willow bluff]

And then I think about trash mob clearers

Like, u don't use ocucor against bosses

However that doesn't make it a valid candidate for irradiate despite having innate radiation

[sudden tendon]

Yeah that was without any buffs and

[devout burrow]

irridate is bait, debilitate is insanely strong

[floral osprey]

i only test my stuff like that to see how well it can hold up in archemedias primarily and because if it can clear them super easily then odds are with much anything else they probably will do just fine

[willow bluff]

Reason is it takes a lot more weighting/ammo to reach 10 stacks of radiation on ocucor where u could do lesser shots to save ammo and let them die via heat

[willow bluff]

With what combo?

[devout burrow]

debilitate on high multishot status weapons

or just with cytes ammo pack

[willow bluff]

Beams are valid with it? I heard they're not ideal for it

[sudden tendon]

I like limit testing so i try bringing them to lv cap

[willow bluff]

Some buggy mess or something

[devout burrow]

debilitate only procs per beam tick which doesnt consider the status chance

[willow bluff]

So it is limited in case of beams

[devout burrow]

it works on phantasma cause its a weird thing between a beam and a shotgun

[willow bluff]

And besides, because of Overcharge, people have lesser reason to use Debilitate on beams

[willow bluff]

How about Bubonico alt fire?

[devout burrow]

good for priming

[willow bluff]

Is Debilitate just a primer without faction bonus multi dipping?

[devout burrow]

wdym without

it has multi dipping

[willow bluff]

Like what if u r using just status damage modz

[floral osprey]

idk i favour builds that are modular so i can just take whatever i want and like outside of level cap where i do sometimes think ahead of time i just take whatever i feel like using at the time... hence why i have a melee xaku with a giant sword

[sudden tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/rah-gif-14283880331149196129

[willow bluff]

By without I mean not using faction mods

I'm only taking advantage of that multi dipping if I'm running roar

[devout burrow]

which you'll want to run for debilitate

[sudden tendon]

Yessir

All my homies hate faction mods

[floral osprey]

basically the insparation for it, but i also really dislike how the sword + shield weapons feel to use so i just went with giant sword

[sudden tendon]

Yeah i think it looks sick lol

[floral osprey]

the only faction damage bonus i get is from roar 🙏

[daring vortex]

When the 1999 calendar resets will that affect my technocyte?

[floral osprey]

no

[mellow adder]

what's a good exilus for Cyte?

[devout burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-footed-sure-footed-warframe-sure-footed-gif-2976538678452841170

[willow bluff]

Repair Dispensary

[willow bluff]

https://youtu.be/M5h9zZ0dCrs?si=43v3SNuHQsOJv-1M

[floral osprey]

PSF so you can be a walking explosion

[floral osprey]

was hesitent about it at first but chroma has recently been one of my favourite frames to play so the skin was 100% worth

[lofty garden]

1hr15min defense arby’s. They tried to continue after the defense puppet had lost half its health in the last 15 seconds because the rest were off doing I have no idea what. No one else brought a vazarin artifact. Lame!

[mellow adder]

is that not a mod for specifically protea?

[willow bluff]

No

It's for all frames who have dispensary

[lofty garden]

128 vitus essence, though

[mellow adder]

it just says protea on the bottom?

[devout burrow]

holy

what did your team do to get such low vitus 😭

[willow bluff]

U do not know what helminth is?

[lofty garden]

it was defense. I think those are F tier for vitus essence

[devout burrow]

helminth for this 🥀

[willow bluff]

Happened to me when I was running vazarin

I tried to save mine via ultimate rather than protective sling
My bad

[mellow adder]

i know he's the infestation in my ship. i have no clue what to do with him other than pop my pink neck pimple

[lofty garden]

Oh, no, defense is S tier.

[devout burrow]

I assume it was cadesh which is a B tier
defenses and intercesption are best for arbis

[floral osprey]

work on your standing with the entrati family on deimos and you can purcahse a helminth segment from i belive its the son, and you get access to the specific segment thing at rank 3 i think

[mellow adder]

the firewalker mod...
it gives mobility yadada.

what does the "heat on bullet jump" actually do?

[willow bluff]

I had to tell newbies in arbi to stay at one interception point

Then collect loot between waves

[floral osprey]

im like 95% sure its if you hit someone with your bulletjump

[lofty garden]

Nah, spear. Rated C

[willow bluff]

Mobilize is better

Only costs 5 mod capacity

[lofty garden]

Bad site lines for the drones

[mellow adder]

yeah. im not running into enemies with bullet jump. useless mod then.

[devout burrow]

you use it for parkour velocity

the parkour velocity mods are really good

especially the cold one cause its passive CC

[willow bluff]

Cold one doesn't freeze them
Use melee careen

[devout burrow]

vro

[willow bluff]

Stack arcane @lofty garden on any warframe

[devout burrow]

too early for this fr

[willow bluff]

Use @ IceStorm mod on pistols

[devout burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-7240636

[floral osprey]

how often do you feel that you get knocked down / how often are you aim gliding? because if you get knocked down a bunch you can run stuff like handspring, and if your aimgliding a lot you can run stuff like aviator, aero vantage, or patagium, alternatively you can look at the mods that give 15% strength and range range

[devout burrow]

bros just typing random shit

[willow bluff]

[willow bluff]

(ignore this)

[lofty garden]

Or, you just log in for 400 days and get the best mod in the game.

[floral osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/psf-achieved-prime-sure-footed-gif-1148020612292723700

[willow bluff]

Primed Shrewd?

[floral osprey]

lowk its such a good QoL mod i cant live without it anymore on frames that dont have built in knockdown immunity

i love shooting explosives at my feet and not getting staggered

[willow bluff]

Circumvent

Steal overguard
Get status immunity

[lofty garden]

Prior to login day 400, just run Nezha

[floral osprey]

no please lets not do this again 😭

did you know that if you also take off melee influince and just all the mods the xoris all of a sudden doesnt nuke rooms either

[lofty garden]

knockdown and status immunity is so comfortable, as is sliding up stairs faster than others run

[devout burrow]

AST type comment

[visual escarp]

Can someone teach me how to cross save in dms

[willow bluff]

Also by aim glide remembered

I'm thinking to give akimbo slip shot a try on P DD.

We got a bunch of weird frames who have perma aim glide

[floral osprey]

no its a laith type comment 😭

[lofty garden]

https://www.warframe.com/news/cross-platform-save

[willow bluff]

True, someone understood!

[floral osprey]

can i give you a "suggestion" for a horrendous build combination that just does the equivalent of removing that direction

[floral osprey]

yes i was there for that

[visual escarp]

If I do cross save from my ps5 to PC can I still play on my ps5 save and still have my same stuff

[mellow adder]

so dum exilus slots cost plat to unlock

[willow bluff]

Oraxia? Uriel? Zephyr?

[lofty garden]

Do you have a PC account right now?

[floral osprey]

mirage :) with akimbo slip shot

[visual escarp]

No I'm downloading warframe on my PC

[willow bluff]

No
Mirage is reserved for Cortege and Morgha

[lofty garden]

create the pc account. log into the website with the pc account. link the PSN account. it should say that it will import the progress from the PSN account.

[visual escarp]

Then will I still have all of my stuff on the ps5 and still be able to play on the ps5 with the same stuff

[floral osprey]

womp womp, you get to see what making someone only see the energy colour of your gun looks like (shards are legit an ability strength, equilibrium, and corrosive status cap all tau)

[willow bluff]

Buddy we're talking archgun here

[lofty garden]

after that, anything you do on PS5 shows up on PC and vice versa. There are some restrictions with cosmetics (tennogen), but all the function bits (mods, frames, weapons, etc) will be identical on both

[willow bluff]

If that was my plan, I'm rather using Pistoleer

[floral osprey]

(friends Pov of this stuff)

[lofty garden]

Just make sure when you do the link that the page says it is importing your progress from the PSN account

[floral osprey]

i cant read so nu uh

[floral osprey]

run both because sometimes the 10,000 projectiles just kill everything and dont hit a head

[willow bluff]

Mirage with Pistoleer and a primary with Overcharge

[visual escarp]

Can you dm what I have to do to make sure I can still play on my ps5 and still have the same stuff

[floral osprey]

thats what the kuva ogris is used for :)

[lofty garden]

That is all you have to do. the page I linked has the details.

[willow bluff]

Also yesterday I rejected an ogris riven

[lofty garden]

I enabled cross save during the Merge window, so my experience will have been slightly different

[floral osprey]

:)

[visual escarp]

Ok and just to make sure

[willow bluff]

Someone was offering it in exchange of my verglas riven

[visual escarp]

I can still play on my ps5 and have the same stuff as my pc

[floral osprey]

side note, fire rate and a + recoil riven on the akarius is really funny when it flings your camera to the top left corner because i guess thats just how that works with recoiul on it

[willow bluff]

Ended up selling my CC CD FR verglas riven for 450 plat

[devout burrow]

what a low ball

[floral osprey]

"ill give you a diglet for your foil hollow og charzaird" ahh trade

[sudden tendon]

._.

[lofty garden]

yes. i was playing on my ps5 a couple days ago. shut it down, then picked right up on a PC afterward

[sudden tendon]

😭

[devout burrow]

bros gifting away his rivens 😭

[willow bluff]

I'm trying to damage the verglas market

[visual escarp]

Ok thank you so much and one more time how do I make sure that I can still play on my ps5 with the same stuff

[willow bluff]

It's so easy to keep getting verglas rivens from RNG

[devout burrow]

you cant damage a market unless you legit have so many rivens that you get to regulate the market, and by that point DE usually trade bans you

[lofty garden]

once you enable cross save, it is automatic

[floral osprey]

clearly it will never compare to this riven though (im like legaly required to bring this up as often as i can because i intend to put more kuva into it untill i get a "god roll")

[visual escarp]

Ok and the link you sent me has the instructions on how to link it

[lofty garden]

yes

[dusk yoke]

How to stop getting staggered by granum void specters?

[worthy comet]

damn that stug is cracked

[willow bluff]

Or if you're a YouTuber like moug

[worthy comet]

keep moving

[floral osprey]

i use it to kill archons

[lofty garden]

login for 400 days and stagger will be a thing of the past

[devout burrow]

that is a completely different thing...

[floral osprey]

sure footed + fortitude or use PSF

[dusk yoke]

I don't think it's considered knockdown, is it?

[floral osprey]

knockdown includes getting staggered

[devout burrow]

stagger, knockdown, anything that hinders you gets stopped by psf

[willow bluff]

Except hard landing

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/psf-achieved-prime-sure-footed-gif-1148020612292723700

[visual escarp]

And after warframe is done downloading on my pc i make a pc account then link or I can just link it when it's done

[dusk yoke]

Besides getting gud, I'll try that then

[floral osprey]

i think ive hit like 4 mill (probably with some combination of roar and my stupid ahh chroma that gives like 1000% more base damage with vex armour)

[lofty garden]

you make the PC account on warframe.com first

[floral osprey]

mby a stupid mirage total eclipse buff instead of chroma i forget though

[lofty garden]

Warframe on PC uses an e-mail address and password for login.

[visual escarp]

And I do that when it's done downloading or before

[worthy comet]

the stug that can kill a god indeed

[lofty garden]

You can do it right now.

[keen lintel]

Koumei stug better

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

[visual escarp]

Ok

[floral osprey]

im just huffing copium that it gets as big of a glow up like the torid did with the torid when it got its incarnon

[lofty garden]

On console, you have to have played the first mission before you can link an account. I think on PC, you can just create the account, then add PSN via cross save, and when you start up on PC you'll have all your PS5 stuff.

[sudden tendon]

i rly think DE would do it

[floral osprey]

yea but i dont want to sit in a 3 hour survival

[willow bluff]

I had a cosmic vision about kuva stug

[visual escarp]

Thank you so much I was scared I would not be able to play on my ps5

[worthy comet]

watch the incarnon somehow make it worse but ppl will still find a way to clear level cap with it

[keen lintel]

Nope. Just get to WF selection screen and that does the trick

[lofty garden]

What are you saying no to?

[willow bluff]

It was capable to stick bosses immovable for 20s, applying a 100% dmg vulnerability which was multiplicative

[keen lintel]

You don’t have to finish 1st mission

[visual escarp]

I appreciate your help so much

[floral osprey]

idk i think realistically the only way it will ever see the light of "meta" is via an incarnon and i would like actually pay money for a stug incarnon let alone if its good

[sudden tendon]

with the amount of buffs u can put on weapons u can probably take anything to lv cap

at least most weapons

[lofty garden]

On console, you do.

[keen lintel]

Nope.

[worthy comet]

yea the real entertainment will be the outrage over it

[lofty garden]

Yes, I did. I had PC, Xbox, Switch all merged. When I went to add PS5, it would not do so until I had played the first mission.

[sudden tendon]

😭

[willow bluff]

Is Mote Amp a "weapon"?

[keen lintel]

As of Sept 2025 u don’t have to

[sudden tendon]

i wouldnt condsider it one no😭

[lofty garden]

And PSN was a link, not a merge.

[floral osprey]

yes and with the new tauron strike mods you can make those hit really hard more so then they did before but like also just use the 777 or 147 😭

[lofty garden]

Anywho, in this instance it does not matter, he has a PSN account already. He wants to import that progress to PC.

[worthy comet]

every wf youtuber: "the stug incarnon SUCKS and you should be FURIOUS"
weakest level cap enjoyer: "it could be worse"

[willow bluff]

I use 647

[visual escarp]

If I have any questions during the process can I ask you

[storm torrent]

Anyone got a spare Alternox bp willing to trade for Alternox p stock?

[lofty garden]

I'm around for a bit longer, but you can just ask here.

[sudden tendon]

nah a youtuber would never say it sucks, its always this NEW GUN IS AMAZING

[keen lintel]

What does 6 do?

[glad tusk]

Incarnon stug is exactly the same, just with 100 extra base crit

[willow bluff]

Flamethrower

[lofty garden]

Account linking is all performed from the warframe.com website.

[devout burrow]

and then put a thumbnail with red crits badly photo shopped in

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-judging-controversial-sassy-annoyed-gif-6001204319548765339

[visual escarp]

I haven't had much help from anyone besides you every other time I just get ignored

[sudden tendon]

LMAO

[floral osprey]

crit damage then amazing, crit chance, basically the same thing 😭 100% increase of like 1 is only 2

[sudden tendon]

and the red arrow and circle too

[lofty garden]

I just fipped over to PS5. Same frame I was using on PC is active on PS5, just as if I never left.

[floral osprey]

my stug redcrits

[worthy comet]

true, it'd be something like "this gun now TRUMPS the kuva nukor" and the comment section will make em delete the channel

[floral osprey]

secondary enervate does a LOT of work

[visual escarp]

Ok thank you

[sudden tendon]

warframe yt comments are something else

[worthy comet]

tbf i'd blame it more on youtube's dogwater algorithm

[willow bluff]

If they had a little more brain, they'd go to UI settings and change all crit tiers to red color for faking it better

[timber trout]

where should i farm affinity?

[worthy comet]

makes yters rely on clickbait/sensationalist titles -> yters get flamed for innaccuracies/oversight -> yters don't wanna make vids anymore
what is the gameplan here i wonder

[worthy comet]

is that even from warframe lmao

shit looks ai generated

[willow bluff]

"Grind Hard Squad explores Warframe's..."

[keen lintel]

i don’t wanna click it

[floral osprey]

is that like a porlly eddited umbra ment to look like sun jin wu from solo leveling 😭

[worthy comet]

the more i look the more sure i am it has to be ai

[willow bluff]

I might just start making more creative content to see how much the algorithm gives a damn

Like "I built a Tusk Thumper in Minecraft"

[keen lintel]

now that’s what we call. Proper clickbait

[worthy comet]

i swear every vid of this guy that i'm unfortunate enough to come across hardly ever feels genuine

[sudden tendon]

that shit is not doing 13 mil😭

[willow bluff]

"No YouTube, I do not want MHBlacky vids in my recommendation"

[sudden tendon]

he just regurgitates whats on the wiki but worse

[willow bluff]

Poor research as well

[sudden tendon]

yep

[willow bluff]

Always will have atleast one false info

[sudden tendon]

just "this ability does this"

[heady copper]

he has interesting build ideas every now and then

[devout burrow]

this guy used CO on glaives for the longest time

[worthy comet]

wha t

[sudden tendon]

do you have an example, i am curious

[heady copper]

i got my protea off of him

[sudden tendon]

crazy work

[willow bluff]

I'm sure those ideas were copied from wiki comments or tips section

[heady copper]

and when cyte came out he did like an 8 bullet multishot reconifex build

[floral osprey]

when i want to try to find "meta" stuff i just go to hunkpin gaming because he just does "I TAKE THIS TO LEVEL CAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and then i just cut out the parts of his stuff i dont like for the stuff i like

[keen lintel]

Which he copy pasted from a smaller creator

He has 0 ideas

[worthy comet]

oh god that guy's intros are so grating

[glad tusk]

Right CO doesn't work on the explosion doesn't it?

[floral osprey]

like i think with nokko i ended up with a similar build to his except like 1 mod and a subsume

[devout burrow]

not the king 😭

[sudden tendon]

dude, all of his intros of those vids i just see him standing still on rev dpsing for like 4 seconds on an enemy

[floral osprey]

i just skip to the build portion icl

[worthy comet]

nah like seriously who still thinks yt video intros are still a thing ppl do these days

[willow bluff]

Like I was the one who got Nyx's absorb page updated to reveal it to public that it not only makes sentinels invulnerable, but all the robotic companions

Otherwise not even ninjase knew it was the case.

[devout burrow]

"crazy lvl cap build"
needs 10 seconds to kill a lvl cap butcher

[unkempt wagon]

Is the tigris a good weapon

[devout burrow]

no

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/oscars-standing-ovation-clap-clapping-applause-gif-5089552

[unkempt wagon]

Riven useless then😔

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[willow bluff]

And then a youtuber talked about it a week ago after reading wiki

For why?

For making propaganda to nerf nyx

[unkempt wagon]

I only started playing properly like 2 weeks ago idk what weapons are good😔😔

[devout burrow]

I just love it when youtubers start decent in a video and then completely drift into wrong details or bad build choices

[willow bluff]

KessieOilCorner

[devout burrow]

you'll get there

[floral osprey]

the only frame i dont like is limbo because of predispositioned hate that is 100% misplaced due to like 2 random limbos i ran into but aside from that no frame should be nerfed unless its like insanely overbearing similar to how slam meta kinda was

[keen lintel]

Keep all rivens. And pray to god that the dispos improve for next 8 yrs

[devout burrow]

there also is this one youtuber who actively searches for bugs that benefit players and tries to get them fixed

[willow bluff]

Said Nyx is AFKing so should be nerfed

[floral osprey]

and even then i didnt mind it all that much

[unkempt wagon]

Pretty sure all the rivens i have so far are bad

[willow bluff]

Give me a name

[devout burrow]

I forgor

[floral osprey]

dont like all companions if you dont move after so long just stop attacking?

[devout burrow]

he was the one that got dagath wrathful fixed

[willow bluff]

U sinned

[devout burrow]

lemme search

[unkempt wagon]

Are the komorex or corinth good😭

[glad tusk]

Oil corner or that one thai dude

[late vessel]

Corinth is ehh

[worthy comet]

never heard of komorex, but i know corinth prime is known for feeling good to use at least?

[willow bluff]

Corinth gets style points

Komorex is ok

[unkempt wagon]

So corinth riven could be worth like a tiny bit

[sudden tendon]

thats why he pissed me off

[late vessel]

This is insane lvl of copium lol

[worthy comet]

yea i forgot what the exact wording was

something about satisfying sfx?

[willow bluff]

Your average tenno will play for "oh cool!"

[late vessel]

Who's with corinth again?

[willow bluff]

Then come here to ask for ETA/EDA

[worthy comet]

titania

[floral osprey]

titania

[late vessel]

I might just get it

[unkempt wagon]

Well the corinth riven i got has dmg multishot and fire rate so im Guessing thats not bad?

[willow bluff]

That's even worse

[daring parrot]

that's a nice combo

[willow bluff]

she herself won't play her own signature

[glad tusk]

Isn't the generic god roll riven cc/cd/ms with - zoom or smth?

[worthy comet]

it is kinda funny yea

[floral osprey]

imop the corinth prime feels meh at best, its kinda finiky as the ideal way to use it is spam the alt fire but if it hits an enemy or a wall then it just basically doesnt do anything, tbh they should just make it auto explode its alt fire if it hits something and it would probably feel a lot better because then you can fire and forget about the alt fire

[willow bluff]

It's like "larkspur is Hildryn's signature" scenario

[sudden tendon]

yuh

[late vessel]

Spinnerex is oraxia signature

[glad tusk]

Well uptill recently Hildryn's balefire wasn't that good lmao, granted so were archguns but still

[late vessel]

Pangolin and Redeemer comes along with Titania and Mesa respectively

[floral osprey]

3rd stat can also be smthn like toxin or cold, recoil and -ips also tend to be decent negative stats

[willow bluff]

Atleast oraxia can use it for regular damage

[devout burrow]

bro I found smth hahahaha
hold on

[willow bluff]

(bug exploit)

[glad tusk]

Redeemer for mesa always confused me, it doesn't synergize with her passive

[willow bluff]

But yeah

[sudden tendon]

warframes and their signatures are actually so horribly done

[devout burrow]

@sudden tendon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48ZpyTqVbg0&t=35s
QORVEX LVL CAP NUKE OP

[sudden tendon]

oh nah

[floral osprey]

WWWWWWW I LOVE MY LEVEL CAP SLOP

[worthy comet]

ah qorvex

[devout burrow]

7k damage ticks 🔥

[willow bluff]

That thumbnail no more let it stay warframe

[sudden tendon]

THIS SHIT IS HITTING FOR 4 DIGITS

LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

[devout burrow]

moreso qorvex nuking at cap whats so funny here

[floral osprey]

something something the one youtuber who made a video on why qorvex was the worst frame and his entire build was just completely wrong and he got bullied to a different game

[devout burrow]

OP NUKE

[willow bluff]

A nova which doesn't exist

[devout burrow]

I love the edit in the intro as if the nuke actually does smth

[sudden tendon]

ive been wating him not being able to strip the og off an eximus for the past 15 seconds

after priming btw

[floral osprey]

wait did he actually deleate his yt channel?

[worthy comet]

i'll grant some of his points were likely valid but dude shoulda probably waited and cooked the vid a bit more instead of turning it into a crashout

nova does pokemon now

[sudden tendon]

wholesome community btw

[devout burrow]

1.7k, so impressive 🥵

[sudden tendon]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

[willow bluff]

IDK
What I said meant Nova "Umbra" doesn't exist

[floral osprey]

100% like i watched it and he had some points but at the same time like i feel like if he had made it as a follow up vid to another vid where he took sugestions on how to make the build then it woulda been a lot better

[worthy comet]

i think the grand takeaway from the whole situation is you should never rush to get a video out

and get some sleep

[devout burrow]

😭

[sudden tendon]

the video wasnt rushed, he made many many different builds

he tried at least 3 different ones from what i remember

he tried making him work

[worthy comet]

i know one of his friends shiro made a response vid saying nova was running himself ragged over it

[floral osprey]

just think about it, atlas has the tekko prime as his signature weapon.... the frame that has built in melee (granted on his release it was psudo exalted but were gona ignore that)

[sudden tendon]

dude the whole intro is him standing in a corner cause he cant kill stuff fast enough to leave the corner😭

[sudden tendon]

ragged over it?

[worthy comet]

wait, dispensary? did this vid come out before universal fallout?

[devout burrow]

No

[sudden tendon]

3 days ago

[worthy comet]

something about going nuts trying to make it work

[sudden tendon]

i dont even think hes killing stuff fast enough for fallout to work

[worthy comet]

wtf man 😂

[sudden tendon]

ah ic

[sudden tendon]

if u watch the video yk u needs dispensary cause he isnt killing anything😭

[willow bluff]

Someone definitely didn't want a doubt to get justified lol

[floral osprey]

yea im watching him try to do more then like 1/16th of the shields of an enemy before he just swaps to his primary

[sudden tendon]

to prime and continute doing no dmg

[floral osprey]

idk tbf i dont think every frame realistically can do good at level cap but as far as Elite Archimedeas as the "highest" level content is probably just fine

[sudden tendon]

well when ur thumbnail looks like this

[glad tusk]

I mean, excal prime has the skana prime

[sudden tendon]

and ur calling it a nuke im expecting a lil more than 4 digit damage

[glad tusk]

Thumbnail would be 9999% better if qorvex's codpiece was the microwave

[willow bluff]

That nuke font feels like from a 1 vs 1 2D game

[sudden tendon]

ikr😭

[floral osprey]

i think i just run breachsurge on my qorvex because his 4 does a really good job at procing it but a really bad job at like actually doing the damage to kill

[willow bluff]

Radiation subsume
On a radiation frame
U got style points

[sudden tendon]

i thought the whole point of breach surge was to spread big chunks of dmg

[glad tusk]

Universal fallout baybee

[floral osprey]

kinda, it helps make it do more damage + cc

[willow bluff]

Breach surge can carry on its own

[floral osprey]

otherwise you just try to do stuff with roar

[sudden tendon]

ic

[sudden tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/scarey-boo-rawr-cute-gif-22290620

[willow bluff]

With that I remember
I haven't tried Wisp's 4th ability augment yet

[worthy comet]

i think another questionable vid i saw was an incarnon tier list

it had strun incarnon in C

[sudden tendon]

oh nah

[floral osprey]

iirc pericing roar isnt that good of an augment :D

[worthy comet]

why? "it does too much dmg to charge the incarnon mode"

[unkempt wagon]

Is the boar incarnon good

[floral osprey]

bascially a torid incarnon but with base heat

[willow bluff]

It is
Puncture priming go brrr

[sudden tendon]

its a bit annoying but i wouldnt put it in C tier😭

[sudden tendon]

💀

[willow bluff]

[unkempt wagon]

That mean good then?😭

[worthy comet]

if anything that's a PLUS cuz anything that dies that quickly doesn't even warrant the incarnon to begin with lmao

[sudden tendon]

25% flat crit i guess😭

[unkempt wagon]

I also got the braton incarnon if thats good

[floral osprey]

the strun incarnon is good... i also am not biased because i have a riven for it

[willow bluff]

Puncture also reduces dmg output from enemies

[sudden tendon]

it is still a single target weapon so u do want the incarnon for the aoe

[willow bluff]

Unless u have also primed radiation on them

[worthy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/dap-me-up-oomfie-oomfie-gridman-1993-kaiju-gif-3044118315406542502

[sudden tendon]

sorry i shieldgate idk what that means

[floral osprey]

braton imop is the weakest of the rifle incarnons but its still quite good... basically if it has an incarnon odds are its at least usable

[sudden tendon]

i too have a riven for it

[worthy comet]

my strun riven is multishot and cd and minus mag size

[sudden tendon]

burston incarnon does pretty much the same thing but better

[floral osprey]

and boltor incarnon is just a bullet hose

[willow bluff]

Shotgun

[floral osprey]

no?

[willow bluff]

BTW I've heard piercing roar can make it recastable?

[worthy comet]

it sorta is? i think the boltor incarnon gives it some spread and multishot

[sudden tendon]

yeah 3 multishot

[willow bluff]

Yeah base MS is more than 1 right

[willow bluff]

I'm gonna build Telos Boltor

[sudden tendon]

y not prime

[willow bluff]

Prime and Telos got a bit difference in crit vs status

[worthy comet]

telos has more crit i hear

[sudden tendon]

ic

[worthy comet]

prime is more status

[sudden tendon]

i just followed what kengineers video said

i trust him lol

[worthy comet]

kengineer's pretty in depth

[floral osprey]

de is censoring my boltor builds 😭

[sudden tendon]

yeah

[worthy comet]

tho his build for mesa focused on ballistic battery was a lil unique i will say

[willow bluff]

You'll rarely ever hear people reveal that Dex Sybaris is better than prime.

[floral osprey]

idk i recall hearing that they are comparable and recall something along the lines of like at the end of the day the boltor prime is like slightly better than the telos

[willow bluff]

Cedo one?

[sudden tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/guh-gif-25116077

[glad tusk]

I saw the ballistic battery mesa setup from sabutchi, real funny

[sudden tendon]

have i invested into the wrong weapon

[worthy comet]

kengineer recommended the kuva bramma actually

[willow bluff]

I went through the entire thing hold on

[glad tusk]

Yeah, but prime has an extra polarity

[floral osprey]

hopefully this build gets to go through 🙏

[glad tusk]

My ocd acts up whenever i see viral heat that's heavily weighted to viral

[floral osprey]

dash polarity is there for this to be put in it as well

[floral osprey]

i know but at the same time , we can only get so close to 200% status chance while using 60/60 mods with toxin or cold on the riven

also i dont want to put more forma into it, i already spend to much forma as is on stuff

[visual escarp]

@lofty garden

I need to dm you

I dmed you

[unkempt wagon]

Is there any good secondaries that are easy to get

[floral osprey]

it looks something like this which is against 205 sp corrupted heavy gunners (no external buffs from frame or companion)

[late vessel]

What mr are you and have sp/duviri done?

[floral osprey]

wait leme make this an mp4

[unkempt wagon]

Just got to 10 but a lot of that is from like 3 years aho when i had 0 idea what i was doing and i have duviri done and only just unlocked sp

[pearl parcel]

Evening rei

How be ye

[sudden tendon]

im curious why u didnt build that much crit on urs

[floral osprey]

like crit chance or cirt damage? because glavanized scope is enough to get me to red crits and hammer shot gives crit damage so its just a matter of getting more multiplicitive sources of damage

[lone shell]

hey guys i have a question: the vinquibus got nerf??

[sudden tendon]

ah i missed the hammer shot

i didnt see any crit damage at first

[floral osprey]

and i just go straight viral heat with first build having more multi firerate and punch through where 2nd has more raw damage and uses shred for firerate and punchthrough instead of using vigilante offense

all good

[willow bluff]

Nope

[floral osprey]

also this is why you run primaru crux because infinite ammo in base mode :)

[sudden tendon]

more spamming lol

i like the incarnon too much for that lol

[floral osprey]

i like both the base and incarnon tbh

it just feels like if you took the unlimited felarx stuff but like made the incarnon feel better

[floral osprey]

unironically looking at the other option for the 2nd evo its just more worth to take crimson overture

potentially a whole 2 more base damage some more punchthrough and accuracy... or infinite ammo..... hmmmm hard choice

[lofty garden]

no kitgun archwings

[sudden tendon]

channeled abilities are js kinda rare

so i dont bother with that one

[glad tusk]

And you'd lose energy regen options

[sudden tendon]

yeah

[gusty turtle]

Unless you're chroma

His channels don't remove energy regen

[floral osprey]

Between that and imop more accuracy and punchtrough is just not worth the same as infinite ammo. Sure you can potentially kill 4 more enemies per bullet.... or you can kill infinite more enemies by just spraying at them and the reduced accuracy can actually help not have to aim straight at heads and all of a sudden infinite ammo!

[wanton sorrel]

for the saturn juction what dose it mean by fully scan a single enemy when i did but didnt work?

[gusty turtle]

You need to scan one enemy multiple times throughout multiple missions

It'll fill their codex and that's what counts

[pliant warren]

If i subsume over dagath's doom, can she still apply doom through her specteal spirit augment?

[wanton sorrel]

bruh

[rapid pilot]

How can I get strong in warframe 😭

[gusty turtle]

Yes, but Doom will stop scaling with strength/duration

I personally just shield gate with her, polarity on aura matched briefspite

And her 1 is the most spammable ability ever

[pliant warren]

Tbh I was being too greedy, i thought of subsuming a damage buff like roar or eclipse over her doom, but seems like overkill

[gusty turtle]

Yeah you really don't need it

Breach surge is funny on her though

[pliant warren]

Ooh, seems interesting might try that one out

[floral osprey]

play more, read the wiki if your confused, ask for help if your not sure how to build stuff

[daring parrot]

mods, multishot, status effects and elements, crit

knowing what the elements do and how they interact with enemies too

[floral osprey]

to build onto that, knowing that the way to get "big damage" is by basically stacking as much differnt stuff together as you can for your weapons, ie 3 base damage mods stack additively while 3 mods (1 base damage, one status, and one multishot mod) stack multiplicatively and tend to result in higher damage numbers

[visual escarp]

I need your help again

[unkempt wagon]

I got viral on my secondary to prime stuff i think? what should i have on my primaries

[late vessel]

Most of the secondary incarnon are good (furis, lex, atomos, etc)
Then the lich weapons like kuva nukor, tenet cycron, tenet plinx, etc
Ocucir and some others

[dusk yoke]

Is there a quest that introduces railjack or am I expected to dive in?

[unkempt wagon]

Oooo okay tysm

Coda bassocyst a good shotgun right

[floral osprey]

ima be so fr, you reaaaaaaaaaly dont need to prime stuff to kill stuff. however generally the most important element on primaries is something between heat or blast (primarily depending on what the weapon does)

[late vessel]

Yes but you're not the right mr for it

[unkempt wagon]

Just got a riven for it

[floral osprey]

very, its base damage mods scale multiplicitvely with gundition overload (you need to be MR 17 though to get it) HOWEVER you can probalby get the tenent arca plasmor which is a side grade to it

[floral osprey]

keep it, but tbh its probably not a weapon you want a riven on

[unkempt wagon]

Mr 17 is so far away😭

[unkempt wagon]

Im in dire need of plat so im trynna sell anything of value

[floral osprey]

long story short, weapons have different riven dispositions aka on some weapons rivens give more stats and less on others, the bassocyst, both due to being relatively new as well as being relatively good and as a result it has low stats for the bassocyst

[unkempt wagon]

Oo is that what that stat is

So 5 circles or whatever is the best 1 is the worst?

[floral osprey]

while rivens are definetly a way to make plat, imop you can probably make more consistent plat off of the prime resurgence prime sets

[visual escarp]

Does anyone know of a way to get better frame rate on a low end laptop

[glad tusk]

Yeah, grind for aya from open world bounties, trade aya for relics from varzia, crack em for prime parts and trade those

[glad tusk]

Lossless scaling?

[unkempt wagon]

I was just doing the archon hunt and sortie and i got a shotgun rivem drop :) im trynna learn what relic farms are best to get prime parts still

[visual escarp]

Where is that

[glad tusk]

Steam

Some form of frame gen might help

[visual escarp]

How do I turn it on

[radiant zinc]

Has anyone doing Descendia Solo recently?
Infernum/Floor 11 was Defense and i feel like it goes forever without stopping even tho it's just one wave.
Enemies keep spawning, resetting Descendia doesn't fix it

[floral osprey]

kind of, 5 circles means that rivens give a lot of stats but generally it means that the weapon tends to not be the best. I will make a note that once a weapon has a high riven disposition i dont think they go back and reduce it, so stuff like the torid (which is generally considered to be a very good meta weapon which you really dont need to be able to be "good" or anything) has a very high disposition which helps make rivens for it cost a lot

[glad tusk]

You buy the software on steam

[visual escarp]

Oh yeah I dont have money

[floral osprey]

1 circle means either the weapon is used a lot or is very new

[glad tusk]

Idk, run the built in scaling setting?

[daring parrot]

would dlss work

[unkempt wagon]

Ahhh okay, i can almost craft the torid which is nice

[glad tusk]

I don't think an old laptop would have that

[glad tusk]

You'll need the incarnon to actually make it good

[floral osprey]

its primarily good because of its incarnon form, the base form is... ok at best tbh, but the reason why its so good is due to its insane crowd clearing ability where you kinda just point at stuff and then it all just goes pop with the right build

[unkempt wagon]

Ahh is that how the high level people just be clearing rooms? Rn im mainly using the kuva hek and kuva quartakk but both have awful builds lol

[glad tusk]

Yeah, the torid transforms from diaper bomb launcher into piss laser cannon

[daring parrot]

heah I wasn't sure

[glad tusk]

Maybe he'll be lucky and warframe will have fsr available on his laptop

[floral osprey]

also just to be clear, you dont NEED a riven to make it good, this build here (while is a version of my build minus the riven) is more than good enough for like bascially all the content n shit you would need

so like aside from bad weapons (which the torid is not) rivens arent really needed especially for the "meta" weapons / low disposition weapons ig

[glad tusk]

Rivens are win harder buttons

[unkempt wagon]

I just need to get all the decent mods then i can focus on rivens

[dry coral]

yeah rivens are going to push you over the edge but like every single build guide ever can provide you builds that will get you to level cap even without a riven

[floral osprey]

aside from the really bad weapons where you need the riven to kinda bring it up to snuff without obscene weapon buffs

[glad tusk]

I mean the basic crit status hybrid with viral heat should make any rifle decent

Throw on roar as a subsume and you'll clear most steel path missions

[unkempt wagon]

I do need to grind the stuff to unlock subsume people said it makes the game way easier

[glad tusk]

It provides options

[floral osprey]

something something have fun getting nourish as a subsume :)

[glad tusk]

Also if you got access to the zariman, the incarnons there are perfectly serviceable

Phenmor, leatum, and innodem to start with

[unkempt wagon]

Thats the cool space ship on the left of the star chart right

[glad tusk]

Nokko dethroned grendel for energy sustain subsume imo

[glad tusk]

Ye

[floral osprey]

id say why not the felarx but like also yea probably not a great "starter" incarnon

[glad tusk]

You unlock the first 3 almost immediately

[floral osprey]

eh, nokko is better if your sitting still imop but for frames that want to be constantly moving / dump range then nokkos ability is kinda not as good

[glad tusk]

Leatum and innodem are the first 2 ranks

[floral osprey]

leatum is definetly one of the best secondaries in the game

[unkempt wagon]

My standingg everywhere is basically 0 had no idea how important it was

[floral osprey]

right up there with the stug

[unkempt wagon]

Until literally yesterday

[daring parrot]

laetum is rank 0 or 1

[dry coral]

dont worry you arent the only one lol

[daring parrot]

laetum is very fun

[glad tusk]

The necralisk also has good weapons

[dry coral]

returned after probably like 6 years and I’ve been grinding constantly to try and get my standing up

[glad tusk]

Kitguns and the cedo are relatively simple acquisitions

[leaden obsidian]

What be happening

[unkempt wagon]

Kitguns seemed cool

Is there any frame i should be going for in specific also

[floral osprey]

rhino

[unkempt wagon]

I made him :D

[floral osprey]

probably one of the easiest to grind and one of the best subsumes

[unkempt wagon]

I got wisp prime and volt prime as my only primes so far

[dry coral]

both very very good primes

[unkempt wagon]

Normal frames i got titania wukong rhino ovtavia mirage limbo and i got zephyr and banshee cooking up

[glad tusk]

Volt with Shock Trooper and Capacitance can handle just about anything outside a toxin proc

[floral osprey]

hildryn is prty good with pillage as her subsume, grendel + nokko are very good as well

[unkempt wagon]

Are they augments?

[glad tusk]

Ye

Shock trooper lets you give your weapons electricity damage

[floral osprey]

that means you can subsume wisps 4th ability onto her (roar is a fairly common subsume over wisp's 4)

[glad tusk]

Capacitance lets you regen shields by hitting enemies with his 4

[unkempt wagon]

Yeah the 4 is pretty bad

[unkempt wagon]

Oo thats cool where do you get them?

[glad tusk]

Syndicates

[floral osprey]

i wouldnt say that, with the cataclysmic gate augment makes it usable but especially for a support build roar tends to be a lot better

[glad tusk]

Don't remember which

[unkempt wagon]

I can get them when i do my next rank up on red veil

[opaque hinge]

Imo Felarx kinda weird, because it one of the weapon that can deal with niche boss like Plague star

but at the same time, it by far the weakest: dmg too inconsistent, incarnon form is dogshit, and reload too long even with holster trait

Strun and Boar perform much better

[unkempt wagon]

Nvm i ranked up now i need 40k standing

[floral osprey]

also if you ask around you can probably also find people who are willing to just either throw augment mods at people for free (either here or in your clan chat) or people will do 1 for 1 trades where you give them an augment mod they want and they give you one you want

[unkempt wagon]

Between capacitance and shock trooper which would you say is more beneficial to have right now

[unkempt wagon]

Ahh thats cool i forget how nice the community is

[opaque hinge]

capacitance because it help Volt survive

[floral osprey]

idk i use the reload perk one with the primary crux and ammo efficiency (riven is +damage + toxin)so i basically get a bunch of fire rate and as long as i can hit a couple enemies and get some head shots it can kinda just shred stuff

[opaque hinge]

yeah but what I mean is, against boss like the Plague Star or the one in Deimos, it does... nothing. I invested a tons of forma for it due to love shotgun and Zariman weapon, but this is so disappointing

[floral osprey]

tbf tho, not every weapon excels at everything

[opaque hinge]

Laetum both mode can shred anything compare to this mess

[floral osprey]

the felarx excels in hordes of chaff that you can hit headshots and peirce 3+ enemies with the infinite body punchthrough

[opaque hinge]

but then you have Strun Incarnon

Boar Incarnon

[wanton sorrel]

can anyone help me with ruk?

[opaque hinge]

both of this is just far stronger even in incarnon-off

[opaque hinge]

Ruk?

[floral osprey]

yea but you dont have to use the incarnon form, the base form benifits a lot more from the incarnon stuff then the incarnon form does

[wanton sorrel]

yeah saturn boss

[opaque hinge]

I'm not even mention the incarnon, I'm talking overall and pointing at base fire form

[floral osprey]

and as a result if you only compare the incarnon forms yea its gona be worse, but base form its imop signifcantly better then the boar or strun and relatively compareable to their incarnon as well

[opaque hinge]

it still bad in base shot

[floral osprey]

its really not

[visual escarp]

Anyone know of a good atlas build

[opaque hinge]

I invest in all 3 and Felarx is just the worst

[floral osprey]

i dont know what to tell you, other than its really not that bad. i do the best to put all my weapons it a relatively sterile testing enviorment and they all clear the stuff well with boar and strun doing better in incarnon and felarx better in base

[wanton sorrel]

?

[opaque hinge]

Lephantis is not taking any good dmg from Felarx

[floral osprey]

basing everything off of how well they kill lephantis is just disingenous to how good or bad a weapon is though

[opaque hinge]

but Strun and Boar can

in their base form btw

(need Incarnon adapter still but you get my point)

too long of a reload, 50% chance not doing anything

[floral osprey]

belive it or not the weapon wit perks that say "hit 3 or more enemies" doesnt do well went you dont use it against 3 or more enemies like idk what your trying to make a point of here other than when you take weapons out of their element they preform worse

[opaque hinge]

while other 2 can consitently perform better in both form

[keen lintel]

Lephantis is a really bad boss for early game players. You do not have the proper mods or weapons to do it. Ask for help in recruit chat. Or in #squad-recruitment
Your best bet is to use Boltor u get for free and mod heat & dmg. Or leave it for later.

[floral osprey]

XD

[opaque hinge]

did you even read the whole convo?

[floral osprey]

That's really funny thank-you I need that laugh.

[floral osprey]

If you gime a sec I can grab you the atlas build I have

[opaque hinge]

btw Hemocyte is more suitable to compare how bad Felarx is

Lephantis is still a stupid boss even after dmg attenuation nerf

[keen lintel]

Felarx on Lephantis was a dead giveaway

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

Felarx. A Zariman weapon

[lusty trellis]

Thoughts

[visual escarp]

Sure

[opaque hinge]

wow so funny, let me block you real quick

[opaque hinge]

you should post this in general or the #fashion-frame

[lusty trellis]

O sorry

Question does a maxed arcane hot shot go for 680 to 700 plat

[wanton sorrel]

can anyone help me with the saturn boss?

[opaque hinge]

iirc it under 700

[floral osprey]

hes a little rough to play because you need to keep up your rubble but as long as your punching you cant die and just about everything else dies, he excells in "target rich enviorments" your 4 is kinda just there for fun with the arguments of "it can draw fire away to not kill you instead" but realistically you should be killing everything with pucnhes