#gameplay-discussion

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gusty turtle
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theres a hardcoded interaction that locks enemy/environment interactions in a weird way

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if you hit an enemy with a projectile itll only be able to hit that enemy once

tranquil kayak
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Because the character in question comes from the world of Ubisoft's For Honor, and has ties to the three base factions

pearl parcel
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and it's also not 40 2300fps projectiles

gusty turtle
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so most stuff in the bubble wont do as much collateral as you would expect

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despite all the hype-up

tranquil kayak
gusty turtle
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unless its a ricochet weapon or a projectile affected by physics

tranquil kayak
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Unless it something to do with Slash status procs

gusty turtle
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then it has... no limit

tranquil kayak
gusty turtle
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Mag's shards are the intended interaction for that

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They're affected by physics so when they enter a bubble it becomes a shredder of inf damage

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There are two weapon that can do much more horrible stuff though

tranquil kayak
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Penta lmao

gusty turtle
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Tenet Arca Plasmor

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And Penta, yes

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If you just let Penta projectiles enter without denotation they become like moddable mag shards

tranquil kayak
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I have a rough sketch if you would like to see it and give it a try

gusty turtle
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Arca Plasmor acts similarly, but sadly projectile duration isn't high enough to stay inside

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Much higher damage though, so it compensates easily

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I think out of the weird interactions Garuda's 4 also works

tranquil kayak
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I want to get the Carmine Penta but Railjack

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God damn it, Railjack

gusty turtle
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Aw, it's not that bad

gusty turtle
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If you just level the weapons

tranquil kayak
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Still boring and most of it is just a taxi to a normal mission mode

pearl parcel
tranquil kayak
gusty turtle
tranquil kayak
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DE gave up halfway through 😭

gusty turtle
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Mag is so fun though

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If only i liked her skins

tranquil kayak
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Mag was my first Warframe, twice

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And she was my first Prime

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I also built her Prime, twice

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Two accounts, two starts, two Mag Primes. Merged accounts when account merging opened up

small solstice
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FEAR MAGS KNEE TOES

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sry

tranquil kayak
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Wtf are Mag's toes anyway bruh

gusty turtle
small solstice
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i missed it too and regret it to this day

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altought it was a lot of money

sudden tendon
small solstice
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idk he got his blades back so he funnier now

sudden tendon
small solstice
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true true

tranquil kayak
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It's like the polar opposite to Bungie and Destiny

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Destiny straight up lied to the players and deletes paid-for content from the game several times

small solstice
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i mean i like that there are exclusive things like you can be proud that you where there that day but oh man does it suck to not be available now. But it is good they keep it exclusive

tranquil kayak
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DE could probably break their contract with Excalibur Prime and the Heirlooms with zero consequence because every other game dev company does that shit, but they don't

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Big respect to DE. Love them

sudden tendon
small solstice
sudden tendon
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theres a reason why fortnite doesnt just rerelease the same skins

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and does variants of skins

tranquil kayak
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Holding out hope for Mag and Frost Heirloom 2

small solstice
tranquil kayak
sudden tendon
tranquil kayak
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Said weapons having been made unobtainable if I'm not mistaken

sudden tendon
tranquil kayak
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I gotta find that video again

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It was a documentation of Bungie's bullshit with Destiny

sudden tendon
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lol

tranquil kayak
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Blows my mind that people still played Destiny for so long despite all that shit

sudden tendon
tranquil kayak
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That you pay for a DLC expansion and then what you paid for gets literally removed from the game. Not 'sunset' - deleted

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You paid for something that now doesn't exist

sudden tendon
tranquil kayak
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Lie to me about how your engine has limitations just make a new engine

sudden tendon
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the game wasnt made to last this long

sudden tendon
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instead of that garbage called marathon

pearl parcel
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im going to bet int, night dude

tranquil kayak
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Warframe on the other hand hasn't sunset too much content. Most notably, raids (Trials?)

sudden tendon
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which is its own shit show with all the art stealing

tranquil kayak
sudden tendon
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why is "shit show" with no space blocked tf

tranquil kayak
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'Shit' was removed from the censored list around the time Techrot Encore released but clearly they didn't whitelist every variation of it lmao

sudden tendon
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and im assuming most content gets somewhat played

tranquil kayak
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So many live-service flops

sudden tendon
dire geyser
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even then the dlc you pay for becomes free the moment the next newest one is out which sucks

tranquil kayak
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Warframe could have been one of them. From what I've heard, it didn't start off too well and if DE didn't remove stamina, or went on to 'fix' Zoren coptering instead of making Parkour, Warframe wouldn't be here today

sudden tendon
dire geyser
sudden tendon
tranquil kayak
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Warframe lived because they listen to and care about the playerbase

sudden tendon
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its also nice to get newer players into the game

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was also the case for d2 when some dlcs were free but those got removed from the game :)

tranquil kayak
dire geyser
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2 years of early access lol

tranquil kayak
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Crazy

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Warframe still in 'beta' LMFAO

sudden tendon
devout burrow
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isnt fortnite also still in early access

sudden tendon
tranquil kayak
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Warframe's in 'beta' because of some kind of technicality that allows them to keep adding content to the game on console platforms

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Pretty much before modern-day 'live-service' was a thing

gusty turtle
devout burrow
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ok fortnite took 3 years to get out of early access

slender sparrow
tranquil kayak
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Man, to think I wouldn't be here if Fortnite didn't demand me make an account to play it

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I found Warframe because I was browsing free games on PSN in 2017

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downloaded a bunch, played most of them, hard skipped on the ones that needed third-party accounts

sudden tendon
tranquil kayak
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Played Warframe, dropped it as soon as I saw the arsenal/market, but came back and gave it another try

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1648 hours on PSN and 2100 hours on PC later

sudden tendon
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and i dont think beta has anything to do with ToS, other games can lose ur progress and im sure they have somewhere in there that says u cant do anything about it

slender sparrow
gusty turtle
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I played Dark Sector on release and really liked it, wasn't interested in warframe because it looked like a very boring scifi version of it with questionable content support

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More than a decade later I joined

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Bc I saw 1999

sudden tendon
gusty turtle
tranquil kayak
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It became available on Steam when DE made it free to promote 1999

gusty turtle
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Oh shit, really?

tranquil kayak
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Yep

gusty turtle
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I can just play it now?

tranquil kayak
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I don't think it's free anymore

gusty turtle
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On pc?

tranquil kayak
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But it was

gusty turtle
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I thought it was one of those dead on arrival stuck in ps3 hell type of games

tranquil kayak
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For similar reasons I assume, I'm also unable to play, or find on Steam, Risen 1

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I can find Risen 2 and Risen 3, but not Risen 1

tranquil kayak
gusty turtle
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Risen 1 is on steam I think?

tranquil kayak
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Back then, DE had trouble finding a publisher who wanted to fund their game

tranquil kayak
gusty turtle
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Ah

tranquil kayak
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idk why it's banned. I assume it's either drug use or violence or something

gusty turtle
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Right, Risen 2 and 3 are garbage

tranquil kayak
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Dark Sector barely has that bad of violence yet Mortal Kombat is fine here

gusty turtle
tranquil kayak
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Where you're not only ripping people into gibs, but the developers got literal PTSD from viewing real gore to make it hyper-realistic in MK11

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Only for MK11 gore to look like chunky strawberry jam anyway

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Wasn't worth it

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For SOME REASON, we're allowed Mortal Kombat but not Dark Sector

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I think putting a bullet in someone's head and bisecting another person with a flying boomerang is a bit less gory than splitting them in half with a white-hot searing chain but that's just me I guess

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For similar reasons, Bethesda had to rename an item in Fallout in order for it to be allowed in Australia

tranquil kayak
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The specific item being Med-X, which is actually morphine

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I don't recall whether the specific reason was because it's literally called morphine, or because you can become addicted to it in the game

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But yeah they renamed it and Fallout 3 was allowed in Australia

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New Vegas is too

gusty turtle
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Is gothic 1 available?

tranquil kayak
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Funny that, I can buy and have bought Gothic 1

gusty turtle
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Huh

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They basically have the same plots when it comes to drug use

tranquil kayak
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I assume it's something to do with the upcoming Gothic 1 remake getting the original Gothic 1 reclassified

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20-odd years later minds are bound to be changed

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inb4 Risen 1 remake leads to OG Risen 1 getting unbanned and available for purchase lmao

gusty turtle
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Are they even making progress with Gothic 1 remake?

tranquil kayak
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idk man I heard about it a while ago but haven't followed it aside from playing the demo

gusty turtle
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I haven't heard anything

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Oh, nevermind

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Apparently they keep making updates

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Last development update was yesterday

tranquil kayak
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Cool

gusty turtle
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Release is Q1 2026

tranquil kayak
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Ooh they're changing the combat

gusty turtle
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Yeah

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It was a point of contingency for a lot of ppl

tranquil kayak
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I understand they wanted to make it more like the original game but jesus lmfao

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Times have changed nowadays it's Souls, Devil May Cry, or gtfo

gusty turtle
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I don't think I've seen any games that aren't bayonetta or dmc to actually do an action game like this in this decade

tranquil kayak
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That being said, I thought the combat was fine if a bit clunky

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ngl the characters in the demo attack like I think I would IRL if I picked up a sword and started swinging

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Standing stiffly, doing a big lean forward trying to jab and then straightening up

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before getting slapped in the face 😂

gusty turtle
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Ps3 had so many of cool games like these

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But only dmc and bayonetta survived

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And No More Heroes I guess?

tranquil kayak
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Metal Gear Rising

gusty turtle
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No, it's dead in the ditch and came out a decade ago

tranquil kayak
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It got revived by Max0r's videos and now everyone treats it like a Certified Hood Classic™

gusty turtle
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I don't count MGR due to how horrible its development was

arctic ore
tranquil kayak
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The only reason it's 'funny' apparently is because Monsoon talks about memes and Raiden browses Twitter

gusty turtle
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It had no resurrection

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Someone made a review, filled it with jokes

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People only repeat the jokes from the review

tranquil kayak
arctic ore
gusty turtle
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Game is still dead in the ditch

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Nobody plays it or quotes the actual game, they just repeat the review jokes

arctic ore
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Welp

gusty turtle
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The funniest thing about this whole ordeal

tranquil kayak
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There's a joke in his DMC 'review' that I love and it took me a bit to understand it but I can't say it here

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At least without censoring it but doing so ruins the joke

gusty turtle
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Shortly after the whole Maxor thing blew up

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Konami tried to make a "big announcement" regarding mgr

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People really hoped it gave them enough motivation to make a remaster or something

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Because console versions actually had issues

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But when the date came it was literally just a pack of hd phone wallpapers

tranquil kayak
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PS3's 'cell architecture' is why we don't have MGS4 on PC

gusty turtle
tranquil kayak
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and the first two inFamous games

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GOD I WANT THOSE TWO GAMES SO BAD

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THE EMULATOR DOESN'T WORK

gusty turtle
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I also blame Max0r for leaving another god tier shitpost that came out of the game in the dust which is arguably funnier

tranquil kayak
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Which one?

gusty turtle
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The vocalist of Sam's theme made a cover for a Wheelchair Sam copypasta

arctic ore
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Ohmygod

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The most peak OST of all time you mean?

gusty turtle
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And it even had a music video

arctic ore
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It did

gusty turtle
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Animated in gmod

arctic ore
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Gmod is a crazy game

gusty turtle
tranquil kayak
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Gmod is animating software not a game (end sarcasm)

gusty turtle
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Max0r got nothing on this

arctic ore
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I'm sorry I don't know his name

gusty turtle
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John Hotline

arctic ore
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Hah

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Wondering when John Warframe comes to town

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Crazy how John snake is actually not a meme

tranquil kayak
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yo I just got the Nokko passive revive in an Arbitration

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and immediately after, died again, and didn't get to do it just died instantly

gusty turtle
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Reviving removes all mushrooms

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So makes sense

tough mason
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Hi her have someone portugues ou brazilian for playing together?

tranquil kayak
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But I've died while having all six mushrooms on the field and not gotten the passive before in the Arbitrations

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I think it's supposed to be disabled but it bugged

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It happened a second time after too

pseudo sonnet
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Guys,where am I supposed to go/do?

I've gone rounds and rounds around this statue...nothing happened when I got near the chains....

gusty turtle
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you can shoot them

pseudo sonnet
graceful nebula
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guys I just found this on deimos but I cant collect them

vale falcon
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Scan them with codex or simaris scanner

graceful nebula
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I tryed but it doenst work

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must it be the symaris one?

lofty garden
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codex scanner charges, until you get the widgets that make them unnecessary

graceful nebula
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I mean I tryed 🙁

lofty garden
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Just use Helios. it has a precept that will spoilauto scan everything

graceful nebula
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need to build that

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ty

vale falcon
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Oh wait it's a token, should just be interacting with them to pick up (same button used to operate lifts and open locked doors)

reef vortex
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Hey guys, you think we'll get more On-lyne songs in the future?

graceful nebula
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no prompt appeard

vale falcon
reef vortex
vale falcon
reef vortex
graceful nebula
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It was the cave near the entrance where grandmother is

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the one on the right side of the map

reef vortex
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I see

graceful nebula
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actually no

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more like in the center

strong field
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They are pick ups but always been extra buggy

still nacelle
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other than angstrum and torid, what other incarnon only require direct hit ?

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kinda not in the mood of aiming for heads lol

atomic smelt
amber osprey
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can you still get ignis wraith?

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looking at the wiki iit seems like it was exclusive to an event

still nacelle
atomic smelt
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Ah wait they did change it that it's not tradable and just in anl dojo

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I take everything back

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I would get it from a clan, the 8.7% drop chance from the veil proxima caches sounds pain

dawn nova
misty cosmos
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Aw yeahh

vale blaze
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Holy that quality is crazy

safe terrace
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Ok so how the hell does my bubonico have 250% acuracy?

deep ruin
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common bug

late vessel
high rain
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What does 1k accuracy do ?

late vessel
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Funni

deep ruin
worn horizon
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For the purposes of setting up synergy between Primary Acuity and Galvanised Scope, are headshots counted as distinct from weakpoints, or is that just an inconsistency between new and older mod descriptions?

vale falcon
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Most headshots are weakpoints, but a lot of weakpoints are not headshots (most commonly known with backs of MOAs being only weakpoints)

worn horizon
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Ahh, so weakpoint kills on enemies without heads/on non head weakpoints won't trigger the Scope kill effect?

vale falcon
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Yup

feral badge
worn horizon
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Gotcha, thanks!

vale falcon
willow bluff
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MOA backpack doesn't charge incarnon but the beer belly does.
Scaldra backpacks do charge incarnon, as well as the head of the guy who's wearing it.

proven hound
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Aeolak or Stahlta? Which one do you think is more comfortable to use? Anyone who has built both of them?

dire geyser
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Stahlta

gusty turtle
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(I don't have Stahlta)

keen lintel
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and Aeolak is a lot easier to get than Stahlta

gusty turtle
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They're both MultiCO single target rifle with an explosive alt fire (both primary and alt fire are MultiCO)

pearl parcel
proven hound
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I have both of them, but they seem similar. Just like the Ambassador and the Tenet Tetra, which disappointed me a bit. I was hoping to pick the right one without having to build all four. XD

gusty turtle
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I wouldn't call them similar to ambassador

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Ambassador is mode switching and is only partially MultiCO

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Tenet Tetra - yeah, pretty similar

patent valve
deep ruin
bleak lake
deep ruin
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for simple use it's good

patent valve
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With melee Crescendo

deep ruin
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i mean you won't stack melee scresendo that much unless you go for long mission

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since you will be using her 4 mostly

patent valve
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Unless something new tech is discovered?

deep ruin
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no it's just that if you are not planning on going lv cap then stacking the crescendo for outburst is overkill imo

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furax would give you more dps but the question is do you need this extra 45% fire rate

leaden obsidian
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100% right

nocturne hull
leaden obsidian
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They’re bringing the heat

nocturne hull
proven hound
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(Let me know if I missed anything 🤔 )

unique tiger
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You guys think it would be a good idea if designing operator hair would be part of tennogen? I think it'd be a cool

visual rivet
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What is the best frame (fastest..) to do defection (i'm trying to farm harrow system)

dire geyser
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probably wisp or some nuking frame

gusty turtle
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Someone who can speed the defectors up

visual rivet
gusty turtle
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Yeah it's not a bad idea

leaden obsidian
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I got nothin to do

visual rivet
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sure just someone to help me witht he boedome lol

leaden obsidian
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Ign is same as discord

visual rivet
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allright

patent valve
deep ruin
visual rivet
deep ruin
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ah i see

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damn 2 of very hard frames to farm are in the same week?

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sucks

frail wind
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what do you guys think 🤔 ? i think it's not a trick

weary condor
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Lmao, 12h crafting clan key just to get to dojo is madDagathLUL

misty cosmos
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I want the Krios signa so bad 😭

But it’s limited time!!!

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Are there any other ways to get it?

proven hound
# patent valve ok thx, so secondary outburst with melee crescendo is still the strongest dps op...

Read what they do first. Melee Crescendo requires you to get 37 finisher kills, obviously, if you’re in a group, the others will have finished the mission while you still haven’t even started attacking. In that case, no, it’s not the best DPS.
If you’re playing solo or in a premade group (you’ll need to ask the team not to one-shot all the enemies) and you’re planning a long mission, then it is extra DPS if you activate Outburst.
Otherwise, there are plenty of other Arcanes that give you DPS right from the start.

deep ruin
misty cosmos
patent valve
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or cascadia flare

deep ruin
proven hound
# patent valve or cascadia flare

There are many options. For example I use Cascadia Flare cause there's Primed Heated Charge (heat removes armor) which combo with Tauforged Topaz Archon Shards (+75% crit chance each, they can stack)

misty cosmos
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Hoping it returns soon

deep ruin
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my bet is on feb-march 2026

patent valve
proven hound
# patent valve yeah, i use epitaph to spread heat

You can always make two builds, in case you ever need the one for level cap.
If you’re still undecided between melee with fire rate or parkour velocity, you can always leave one shard slot free for the extra parkour and equip the Furax so you have everything. Or you can switch melee weapons depending on the mission: defense (static) / exterminate (moving)

patent valve
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ok thx

amber osprey
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I am trying to farm standing for cephalon by doing plains should I do it on steel path or normal?

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also whats a good frame for this I keep dying or running out of energy is there a frame with perm invis?

obsidian aspen
amber osprey
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ty

obsidian aspen
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could also use Shade

amber osprey
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rip I donth ave either

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which one is better?

obsidian aspen
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both give perma invis, Shade's Ghost is infinite as long as you're somewhat close to enemies and aren't attacking

serene oasis
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am i seeing things or does garas two - dmg the arbitration drones?

summer pewter
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Any noobies here?

long cypress
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I’m on Phobos using Rhino and I’m having a hard time killing the enemies but also I die somewhat frequently can anyone give me some advice on what I should do

red path
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I don't have much experience playing rhino, my guess you need to work on your playstyle:
the more you move the less accurate are enemies targeting you
when you want/have to stay still, find a cover so as less as possible of your hitbox is visible to enemy

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also, rolling gives universal 75% dmg reduction and allow you to bypass some nasty damage effects

lofty garden
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Oooh, Hildryn Prime is in Resurgence.

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And Ben is still in the fridge.

red path
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she got vaulted just recently, I still have quite a lot of her relics

gray frigate
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Hello, Im still kinda new to the game so still learning.
I got a Broken War and I wanned to ask if its good

hushed laurel
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guys if before going into a mission, if everything in my arsenal is level 30 except my primary, will all the exp go to the primary, or is that even keeping one max item in my loadout actually lessens the exp (the thing which levels up the mastery level) which i gain

feral badge
red path
feral badge
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It'd be a lot better for me if I could find a friggin stance mod 😭

red path
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also, do NOT sell or use it for making war, it's actually pretty difficult to farm

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👀 I think I had to farm only one stance specifically, all others I just got from playing game normally

lofty garden
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Not sure describing how to grief players is a wise move.

keen lintel
lofty garden
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Hildryn

twilit lagoon
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Trying to do the incarnon missions for the onos and it says to get 5 head shots with primary fire on a mocking whisperer without reloading

Can I do that with any gun or does it have to be with the onos? Does it have to be in incarnon form?

obsidian aspen
twilit lagoon
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Alright thx

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Bro it moves around so much I can’t get clear shots 😭

red path
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use harrow or revenant

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maybe nova or frost works too

daring parrot
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dont forget about speedva/terrify to make all enemies run away super fast when doing a defense mission

proven hound
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Like Limbo's Cataclsym with max range/duration, Nekros’ shadows, and Sevagoth’s Gloom max range in defense missions.
Or like killing your teammates with ||censored ||frame + ||censored ||Helminth skill.

daring parrot
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gasp

leaden obsidian
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No one likes slowva? Well that’s too dang bad

proven hound
lofty garden
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If you play public, you get what you get.

long cypress
verbal prawn
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Hildryn seems kinda underwhelming. Am I missing something about her?

hybrid hull
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so for any frame's parts (like the neuroptics, the chassis, etc), where do i get those? craft them? missions? does it depend on the frame where or how they are obtained? i specifically want mag's components

leaden obsidian
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Depends on the frame. Mag is from the sergeant on phobos

proven hound
# verbal prawn Hildryn seems kinda underwhelming. Am I missing something about her?

Immortal. Infinite energy. 100% Armor/Shield removal AoE (which also becomes AoE CC with Blazing Pillage). Shield support for allies. Exalted bazooka.
With the Aegis Gale augment + range, by activating Aegis Storm and using the exalted’s secondary fire, she clears Steel Path maps faster than a Mirage with Kuva Bramma / Sevagoth / Yareli Akarius / One Punch Man etc.
Infinite energy also gives you a lot of flexibility: if you don’t want to play her with Aegis Storm, pick any Helminth ability you want to spam, for example Thermal Sunder, which thanks to armor removal and spamming lets you melt enemies in SP and solo a Defense mission without moving.
Big downside: Infested. Hildryn basically stops working against Infested. And even though she has status immunity while in overshields, there’s still the risk of dying to a toxic fart

limpid carbon
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i heard someone say that there cant be a primarely Gas damage type warframe because of how Gas works, is that true?
Idk much about Gas but im trying to understand why they said it like it cant be done no matter what

leaden obsidian
fervent moth
limpid carbon
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yippeeeee

leaden obsidian
limpid carbon
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ignore that part im just happy gas can work

late vessel
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Nokko is viral

limpid carbon
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yuh viral

fervent moth
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Frankly Gas is just pretty bad.

leaden obsidian
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Thought he was gas, man viral doesn’t make sense

limpid carbon
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only frame that has a skill that SPECIFICALY makes gas is Grendel's AUGMENT

fervent moth
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They also let Saryn exist so anything that's even in the ballpark of realistic would work

limpid carbon
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idk anything abt Saryn so you're gonna have to explain this one to my baby brain

late vessel
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Saryn have any toxin related element under the sky except gas iirc

limpid carbon
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😭

fervent moth
#

Best weapon platform in the game. Toxic Lash acts as a second hit, scales off Venom Dose (augment that gives her Corrosive) iirc and can also use Roar because for some reason Lash doesn't count as a "damage buff" for Helminth restrictions

limpid carbon
#

Gasphobic

compact sable
#

hyonestly theres an argument to be made that saryn is the best frame in the game period

limpid carbon
#

im manifesting Witchframe who will save Gas nation🙏

compact sable
#

because she also has a strong speed buff and can use it for easy shieldgates

#

and because of how toxic lash works, she has (almost) unique interactions with certain guns that catapult them into just dummy high KPMs

fervent moth
#

The only reason she's not played by everyone is because she's stupidly squishy so you need to be on your A-game with killing stuff

flint lintel
#

Is there a warframe i can use to get better chances at getter the kuva ogris

fervent moth
#

No

fervent moth
#

Just complete the mission if you get a weapon you don't want. Don't abort.

fervent moth
leaden obsidian
compact sable
#

what about valkyr lol

late vessel
#

With how easy it is to prime viral, gas miasma would be kinda op tho

leaden obsidian
meager cloak
#

LUL

fervent moth
compact sable
#

I suppose if you wanted to speedrun missions because that's the only variable you can control, it'd be titania or volt or something

fervent moth
#

They're all and even chance until you remove it from the pool

meager cloak
#

hru all doing today

compact sable
#

titania is cold progen, too, which is a bonus

#

though elec progen works well for the ogris as well if youre not using it on saryn

limpid carbon
#

shoes up

late vessel
#

How tf is titania cold

#

Butterfly insect frame

compact sable
#

because she's an ice cold killer ig.....

leaden obsidian
#

Idk, ask DE

compact sable
#

yeah a lot of the progens dont make a ton of sense but

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like garuda being radiation

leaden obsidian
#

Lavos being 1 progen instead of all of them doesn’t make sense

limpid carbon
#

Garuda has radiation?

compact sable
#

she doesn't

#

voruna is radiation too for some reason

limpid carbon
#

also what's a progen

compact sable
#

progenitor

#

when you hunt a larvling, the weapon spawns with a specific element

limpid carbon
#

ohhhh

compact sable
#

that element is based on the warframe you used to kill them

limpid carbon
#

ok makes sense

compact sable
#

some of them are obvious, like frost being cold or gyre and volt being elec

limpid carbon
#

wait if i use Caliban what happens then

compact sable
#

caliban is electricity

leaden obsidian
#

Idk, forgot his element

compact sable
limpid carbon
leaden obsidian
limpid carbon
#

my fav augment ever

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cant name it tho cuz im stupid

#

razor gyre i think

sonic smelt
#

I wouldnt worry about progenitor elements too much you can just change it if you need to with Valence

late vessel
#

Razor motor

#

Stupidly strong

proven hound
# limpid carbon ignore that part im just happy gas can work

Gas is AoE, with high enough procs it can melt enemies in an area even in SP with the right frame or weapon. For example, Grendel with Gastro can one-shot 20 SP Heavy Gunners at level 230 (that's the max lvl I can summon). Dual Viciss with Influence. Zakti. I don’t play Ash, but there’s an Ash build after the melee rework on Keenginer’s channel that uses Gas

compact sable
#

yareli being magnetic rather than cold is one of the ones that's most confusing to me

late vessel
#

What's hydroid then

compact sable
#

also magnetic

limpid carbon
late vessel
#

Well the water in PoE is magnetic ig
Although that's more so bc of the eido and not just water in general

flint lintel
#

Wukong is heat?

compact sable
#

wukong is impact

late vessel
#

Impact

flint lintel
#

Whats a hwat wf

#

Heat*

compact sable
#

ember lol

leaden obsidian
#

Ember

late vessel
#

Nezha, Temple, Ember off the top of ny head

flint lintel
#

Where can i see what warframes will give what element

late vessel
#

Scroll up there's a wiki link

flint lintel
#

Okay ty

#

Also whats the best element for kuva ogris

limpid carbon
#

my blood bubbles for toil and troublesGas

#

i need to try making a gas build for funzies

late vessel
#

There's lavos with really good gas nuke with his 4

#

Vesper 77 with leaded gas

limpid carbon
#

i got Lavos like yesterday

late vessel
#

Any gas with Zephyr as well

#

Trumna in particular

limpid carbon
#

tbh people kinda made him sound more intimidating to play than he is

late vessel
#

He lowkey is ngl

limpid carbon
#

like im prob not good at it but it's way easier than i thought it would be

late vessel
#

Console is easier to use Lavos with

limpid carbon
#

are yalls hold buttons complicated or smthn

#

idk i never owned a pc so idk how it works

late vessel
#

1234 being really close to wasd is not fun

#

At least you can still move in all direction while casting stuff

limpid carbon
#

joyful

#

im just copying the kingineer(i think that's how u spell it) dude's build now

bronze otter
#

what frames can be built or synergize well with secondary weapons?

late vessel
#

Yareli

limpid carbon
late vessel
#

Any weapon platform frame really

bronze otter
limpid carbon
#

looking for a way to say i dont like you try it on another day i will fight you

bronze otter
#

cuz i do have many frames

limpid carbon
bronze otter
limpid carbon
#

ok and im f2p and i only got 3 non primes in my entire roster

bronze otter
limpid carbon
#

ok then

bronze otter
limpid carbon
#

i think Mesa might count?

bronze otter
#

nor the relics

late vessel
bronze otter
limpid carbon
#

idk

limpid carbon
limpid carbon
#

congrats

#

Rhino with a teeny gun goes brr

bronze otter
#

roar is basically uni faction damage right?

flint lintel
#

Whats the elemnt for a kuva weapon fi i use mirage

late vessel
red path
proven hound
#

Yareli Prime isn't vaulted. You can find her in relics rn

bronze otter
#

ok now i hust needmto farm a good secondary

bronze otter
late vessel
leaden obsidian
bronze otter
#

i have many weapons whivh i need to get the incarnon for now that i think about it

limpid carbon
#

beware incarnon farms are a slog

leaden obsidian
#

I need to go gamble arcanes again

bronze otter
bronze otter
leaden obsidian
red path
#

You can farm plat instead and buy from cavalero

bronze otter
lapis socket
#

which channel is best to ask abt frame builds?

limpid carbon
leaden obsidian
late vessel
# bronze otter yes

Furis, Dual Tox, Lex, Sicarus,Atomos (all circuit incarnon)
Laetum
Tenet Cycron
Epitaph
Kompressa

bronze otter
lofty garden
#

corrupted holokeys are the drops tonight. tasty

limpid carbon
#

what do holokeys do

late vessel
#

Buy tenet melee

lofty garden
#

buy tenet melee and one of the shooty ones

late vessel
#

Wich shooty?

red path
red path
leaden obsidian
#

13 eidolon relic packs

pearl parcel
#

i just had a guy hand me his gun and ask me to shoot him in the back of the head because he wasnt able to find olives

leaden obsidian
#

Nice

pearl parcel
tired nova
#

So.........

I bought the hot chocolate

#

Honestly it's pretty good just needs a touch of milk

amber osprey
#

apparently cephalon simaris can give you a target to hunt for standing, but I dont have the option

pseudo sonnet
#

Guys where am I supposed to go to search the lab?

daring parrot
#

its glowing

pseudo sonnet
weary leaf
#

Should I swap my crewmate with a bonus to pistols CC for the one with rifle CC?

sudden totem
#

Is anyone else not gaining the lua thrax plasm they get from their missions? I’m trying to get Voruna

pliant trench
#

u playing omni conj. survival?

pliant trench
#

the pistol crew can use the nukor or ocucor tho ngl

#

tho only have limited range

feral badge
#

Keep a solid gunnery crew and you shouldn't have boarding problems

#

Well. Solid guns as well

pliant trench
#

standard crew for railjack is 1 combat, 1 engineer and 1 pilot/gun

opal sun
#

is 1999 bundle worth getting for £18.99

#

750 plat alone is decent

pliant trench
weary leaf
feral badge
pliant trench
pliant trench
#

i sometimes just want to use archwing nowdays

#

arcane surge..... make me go arsonist

feral badge
#

My archgun doesn't generally hold up against fighters as well as my railjack guns. So if I'm out on my wing it's probably cause I'm disabling a crewship personally (I have no archgun arcanes, rivens and honestly a limited collection of mods)

pliant trench
#

understandable

trail bay
#

Does melee influence work on baruuk with reactive storm?

pliant trench
#

took me 3 weeks just to get arcane slot adapter from nokko npc

feral badge
#

I haven't even been to the deep mines yet 😂

pliant trench
glad jungle
#

Just did a Riven challenge to complete a defense mission w/ enemies lvl 30+ with the objective not taking damage. Completed on public, with the exit screen showing it completed, but the riven didn't unlock. This a known bug?

pliant trench
#

i hate mushroom, worst kind to not get what u want per run (ady checked which is gurantee drop but still rng count spawn rate)

glad jungle
#

yes

tranquil kayak
#

Let's discuss:

glad jungle
#

mission exit screen had the riven overlay saying it was completed, even

pliant trench
# glad jungle yes

there several cause of incomplete, would u screenshot the riven chalenge

#

detail*

glad jungle
pliant trench
# glad jungle

alright i found the forum, turn out if u play in public and as client, the riven completion can bugged out

#

safe way is solo run

glad jungle
#

🙁 gonna have to table the challenge for a bit then, I think

pliant trench
#

easiest defence would be saturn defence node

trail bay
glad jungle
#

has to be lvl 30+ - trying Akkad - Eris for mostly gating melee

#

I don't have preparation yet, so finding it hard to get the energy to keep bastille up consistently

pliant trench
#

energy (squad) pads*, u can get the 100 BP from energy lab in any research dojo

leaden obsidian
#

Or khora

floral osprey
#

just a quick question with the 1999 gemini skin packs, when they leave are the gemini skins going to still be avaialble just individually?

pseudo forge
#

most likely
just the bundle is being discontinued

floral osprey
#

mk just wanted to check cuz imop they are a really good way to entice some of my friends to get into warframe

placid turtle
floral osprey
#

ah i see

pearl parcel
placid turtle
#

Sure

pearl parcel
#

now there's two of them

#

now i just gotta name them, like destiny exotics

placid turtle
#

And you did this in like 5 days of learning Blender? Wild

pearl parcel
#

yes

pearl parcel
#

severe ADHD is wild aint it?

feral badge
feral badge
pearl parcel
feral badge
pearl parcel
#

yeah i just distract myself until i forgot about what made me angry then worked on it more

pearl parcel
feral badge
pearl parcel
#

damnit i am too

#

i need to name my guns like d2 exotics but i'm crap at naming

leaden obsidian
#

Sleepy not getting mad at pings? Hmmmm

pearl parcel
#

im very happy at my progress, and i fixed the headache at long last

#

turns out i needed some god damn breakfast, i've been tired and hungry this whole time

pearl parcel
#

it's a thunderous revolver and an incendiary shotgun, so Beithir and Dreki

lofty zealot
#

who for farming credints on the index

dawn nova
pearl parcel
#

no its weapons for a dnd character i'm making

wheat mirage
#

Because I have late night Hildryn brain rot, what would a potential Haven augment work?

dawn nova
median topaz
wheat mirage
#

And what I’m trying to brainstorm is an augment specifically for Haven

median topaz
#

In that case you can choose whether to add a function or enhance a function it already has

#

So something like giving allies DR, giving enemies vulnerability
Or giving Hildryn a free shield recharge on shield break after Haven tags a certain number of enemies

red path
#

giving hildryn shields when killing enemies affected by haven

#

can help a lot vs infested

pliant trench
#

except eximus infested

#

not to mention their toxic can bypass shield

gusty turtle
#

It gives you shields in fixed amounts if you use pillage on enemies affected by haven

red path
#

it gives too little imo, that is why I run parasitic armor vs infested

tranquil kayak
#

Does energy regen give Hildryn more shield generation?

gusty turtle
#

No

tranquil kayak
#

Ngl I play Nokko or Styanax or use Zenurik focus and there's a Hildryn in my squad, I feel bad lmao

gusty turtle
#

She only uses shield related tools

#

Shield recharge/recharge delay works for her instead

gusty turtle
#

Or do you feel no remorse towards the alchemist

tranquil kayak
#

Ah yes, La🅱️os

#

Nah he's a chad

#

He's too chad for me to play him lmao

#

I respect his game though my dude went and Primed himself

gusty turtle
tranquil kayak
#

Oh? Do tell

gusty turtle
#

Energy orbs restore 25 shields and instantly activate recharge delay

tranquil kayak
#

Nice

gusty turtle
#

This is affected by everything from equilibrium to yellow shards, so she could get extra shields

#

(everything except Arcane Energize)

tranquil kayak
#

Oh my god

#

Arcane Universal Fallout on Balefire

#

Immortal Hildryn

verbal berry
#

I got some Platinum atm

Besides Bite, Lohk Canticle and Discipline's Merit, any very good mods that are hella annoying to get y'all can suggest?

gusty turtle
tranquil kayak
#

Ah yeah

verbal berry
gusty turtle
#

Primed Chamber and Hammer Shot are pretty damn hard to get

verbal berry
#

Got Hammer Shot

#

Also what weapons even use Primed Chamber?

gusty turtle
#

Vectis is the easiest

verbal berry
#

No thanks

gusty turtle
#

But depleted reload exists

#

So there are more snipers that can get it

verbal berry
#

Anything else?

gusty turtle
#

Archgun mods

#

60/60 and hollowed bullets

#

@verbal berry

#

60/60 only have a 5% chance from armada event

#

And Hollowed bullets are 2% from archwing interception

verbal berry
#

I do have Hollowed Bullets

#

Right, I don't have Magma Chamber

#

Critical Focus and Magma Chamber

gusty turtle
#

So many archguns just don't care about PT

#

They're either AoE or have it infinite already

verbal berry
#

Think people add it for the 60% elementless damage I suppose

#

How much plat would 3 copies of Rank 0 Arcane Hot Shot be? Am I better off just going with Arcane Precision?

#

Wait lemme check mod name

#

Arcane Velocity sorry

#

Wait no I got mod name wrong

#

What was the name of the arcane mesa used before Hot Shot?

gusty turtle
#

Never played mesa, sadly

#

Hopefully someone else can answer on that

strong field
#

Oh you meant to say velocity

#

You should actually use both velocity and hot shot

#

Unless you mean avenger and not hot shot

tranquil kayak
#

And yeah, Velocity plus Hot Shot is what you want

verbal berry
#

What do I do if I don't have Hot Shot maxed?

strong field
#

Max it out

tranquil kayak
#

Hot Shot's stat increases are worse than Precision unless it's at least Rank 4

strong field
#

Don't use precision on mesa

#

Mesa's guns don't headshot. At least they're not designed to

verbal berry
#

I'm getting mixed messages here

strong field
#

They can, but at a specific angle

tranquil kayak
#

You don't need to headshot with the regulators

strong field
#

Still isn't worth it. Run avenger if anything

#

Avenger velocity is what I used to run before I switched to hotshot velocity

tranquil kayak
#

If you're like me you're toggling to keep the reticle wide so you don't have to aim precisely. Between those, you set up abilities, split someone's wig, and press 4 again

verbal berry
#

It's gonna take me months to get all the forma to start tackling Temporal Archimidea

tranquil kayak
strong field
tranquil kayak
#

Unfortunately I'm not degenerate enough to know where she's from lmao

tranquil kayak
strong field
#

90% chance it's from a gacha game. And yes it is actually from a gacha game

verbal berry
#

Flame Gland a good thing to spend plat on?

tranquil kayak
#

I get like 3-7 depending on my luck and how I feel then I don't try getting em again until I'm building my last blueprint

verbal berry
tranquil kayak
#

Oh aye

#

You out of Orokin Cells?

verbal berry
#

Not even the Orokin cells I can farm those up

main monolith
#

is this crazy to do or am i just overestimating how hard it is

verbal berry
#

It's the building

tranquil kayak
main monolith
#

alr ty

tranquil kayak
#

30 seconds is plenty of time. Spear the fish first then pull out your mining laser, and then go Lex Prime someone's brains out

verbal berry
#

the 4-day wait to even think about finishing a build

tranquil kayak
#

The timer starts when you do the first thing and the fish is the hardest thing to do so you do it first

strong field
tranquil kayak
#

That isn't to say fishing is hard. But they can be tough to hit sometimes lmao

verbal berry
#

Should I buy Flame Gland with platinum?

obsidian aspen
#

nah

proven hound
#

I found the knockoff version. It was almost perfect 😭

#

(still converted though 👀 )

tranquil kayak
#

I'm getting consistent lobbies in Steel Path Ascension right now

#

and wow it's funny with Nokko w/ ability range invigoration

tranquil kayak
#

Finally got the Jade parts. Now I just need her main bp

#

With any luck I'm gonna get the BP the exact moment I get the 450 motes I need to buy it from ordis

pure gulch
#

kuva surv never spawns guardians i swear

pure gulch
tranquil kayak
#

Ah what?

#

That's cringe

#

I wonder if Simaris sells it

pure gulch
#

nah its just ordis mote shop

pure gulch
#

iirc

#

yeah no simaris doesn't sell it, gotta get it from ordis

primal dune
#

Ok Im clearly dumb and misunderstood kuva stabbing, how do I tell when I did it right cuz I just ranked mine to 4

#

😔

#

I THOUGHT THE FIRST RED MEANT IT'S CORRECT 😭

#

i swear to god if all of these gets corrupted in the third try

gusty turtle
#

You have to change the order now

primal dune
#

All 3 have 3 charges

#

so ig I haven't done anything correct once ScottStare

gusty turtle
#

Known mods are shown in an unknown order

#

You now know that Xata isn't the first one

tranquil kayak
#

ite time to buy the main bp

primal dune
#

Ok so when it's crossed, that means it's not correct?

gusty turtle
#

Each of them will tick down when you get a correct sequence

gusty turtle
tranquil kayak
#

Can't wait to finally be able to do the Qorvex meme

gusty turtle
#

And you'll get a second stab for a second mod in the order

primal dune
#

So can I stab it again in the same order?

gusty turtle
#

It won't work

tranquil kayak
#

Subsume Jade and put Ophanim Eyes on Qorvex, equip Fused Crucible and make sure you slot Arcane Universal Fallout

#

Watch the magic happen

#

OH ARCANE BATTERY IS A JADE MISSION DROP DAMN IT I NEED TO KEEP PLAYING

gusty turtle
#

You must guess the sequence

#

You can eventually learn all 3 mods needed, but the sequence from left to right has to be guessed

tranquil kayak
#

ALL OF A SUDDEN NOBODY IS ON ASCENSION ANYMORE LMFAOOOO

gusty turtle
#

If you guessed correctly the first one, you'll have to down a second healthbar and check for the second, all in the same encounter

#

And then the third

primal dune
#

ok so the order changes for every correct stabs?

gusty turtle
#

If all is right, 1 point is consumed from each

gusty turtle
#

There's one fixed order

tranquil kayak
#

I got the combination correct on my first encounter of two separate liches

#

Blew my mind

#

Didn't even have one revealed

gusty turtle
#

Just swap Xata to something else from the known requiems in the order and you'll see the difference in 1 or two attempts

#

Their positioning matters

#

Idk how else to explain

tranquil kayak
#

Think of a combination lock with three numbers on it

#

You might know the numbers. But where do they go?

gusty turtle
#

Yeah, that's the right way to put it

#

Combination lock of 3 numbers, and you can only learn the numbers

tranquil kayak
#

You can't just put the numbers you know about anywhere. They have to be in the right place

gusty turtle
#

But not their position

tranquil kayak
#

The same is the case with the Requiems

gusty turtle
#

For each correct placing you'll notice the difference

tranquil kayak
#

The fact I only came up with this example because I've been playing Dishonored and there's combination locks everywhere lmao

gusty turtle
#

It's probably the best way to explain it

tranquil kayak
#

Yeah definitely

wheat mirage
# pliant trench not to mention their toxic can bypass shield

Okay, so here’s the thing. When Hildryn has overshields/purple shields, all health damage is blocked. Everything. Toxin, Slash(when it went straight to health), Netracell and Archimedea modifiers, you name it and you won’t have to worry about it, so long as you have purple shields

gusty turtle
#

She's built different

#

Shields so hard even bleeding stops

lofty garden
#

Purple is pretty transient, especially when around things that fart.

gusty turtle
#

Can't smell toxin through purple?

vernal birch
#

Quick question. Doing the protea specter fight and she has glitched. She has no animation and just teleports around randomly. Any fix or do I just have to redo the mission?

tranquil kayak
#

Can't kill her?

#

Might have to restart

vernal birch
#

Yeah she takes no damage

#

Her health is empty but shields are full...

#

Yeah I'll just do it again after I get some sleep. Now she doesn't even have a body, she's just a red target symbol floating 100m in the air.

lofty garden
#

I would restart, assuming you know the mechanic to drop her shield and do damage to her health bar segments.

vernal birch
#

Charge glaive, detonate it.

lofty garden
#

She rewound time so far, she went past being a fetus

vernal birch
#

Yeah. She's just an abstract concept now.

lofty garden
#

Now she’s just a thought in Parvos’s subconscious

#

Better alt-f4 before your PC disappears.

gray crow
#

i'm sorry what

atomic smelt
frail tree
#

I kind of want to build taxon

crystal sail
#

so me and my bro wanna do long defense fissure run and he uses nova, what can i use to nuke the whole room with him?

keen lintel
#

either one of u needs to have roar. sevagoth needs a specific build with certain strength threshold to nuke the room

crystal sail
#

but wont roar mess with nova speed?

keen lintel
crystal sail
atomic smelt
keen lintel
atomic smelt
#

Best nova change they couldve made ngl

crystal sail
#

so then what does str do?

keen lintel
atomic smelt
keen lintel
#

more dmg basically

#

oh ye. but very little str is needed to cap at 75%

atomic smelt
#

It has a base value and with just abit str u cap both values, more str affects only the dmg part of the explosions

crystal sail
atomic smelt
#

(Note: the str doesn't affect the 100% vunrability from her 4)

atomic smelt
crystal sail
#

ahh i see

atomic smelt
#

And its easily reached with like 1 str mod

crystal sail
#

damnn

dim talon
# gray crow i'm sorry what

Looks like the ships flew in super low altitude and didn't make it over the hill. Some new phenomenon after the patch to try to fix the issue where they'd be a dozen ships. Have had that happen. You could fly over there and kill them but it'd have to be really fast b/c you'd be considered outside the mission area and it'd fail rather quickly. 😄

patent valve
#

Does Ressource boost affecting mushrooms collection too?

verbal berry
#

I want to do Temporeal Archimedea for a chance at Arcane Hot Shot, is it okay if I go 20/25 if I have not unlocked ETA yet? None of the weapons this week I can build properly yet

lofty garden
#

you can see the rewards for each tier

keen lintel
verbal berry
keen lintel
verbal berry
#

I could grind out money and a red archon shard to finish off the half-completed mods

keen lintel
verbal berry
gray crow
keen lintel
keen lintel
#

u kinda wanna keep the AK 52. its a good primary with the augment (not sure if u have it)

#

but DE may add it in NW shop later. just no guarantee when

verbal berry
#

Or nightwave

Also, Archon Shard Recommendations? Do I shove in another 10% Ability Strength?

primal dune
#

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

#

i even recovered everything yayyy

#

KUVA POS DOWN

keen lintel
verbal berry
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I'll get my Sevvy to 225 strength and then ask for help in recruit chat

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I just need uh

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2.9 million credits x.x

crystal sail
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what coda basso element should i get?

verbal berry
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Back to neptune I go

keen lintel
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Index is great for early game. But once u have unlocked Hex, best credit farm is to run Legacyte with Chroma.

verbal berry
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Also

No Chroma, I sold him years ago before I knew about his credit farms

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My account is in a weird state where I have a lot of half-invested things

keen lintel
# verbal berry It hasn't?'

Not yet. Basically techrot cache in Legacyte mission drops 100k credits. Get a credit booster and u get double. Credit blessing gives u 25% more. Chroma’s 4 has. 60% chance to give u double. Then your beast companion has a 18% chance to double it. Basically on average u r making 500k. Over a million if u r lucky. Over 2 million if u buy a credit booster or get one from daily login

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So hold till the weekend starts and it’s raining monies RebSmug

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Lotus will send u an email when it does

verbal berry
keen lintel
verbal berry
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Are Archgun Deployers typically available in Archimedea?

keen lintel
verbal berry
gusty turtle
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Something like a strong hound and an archgun is a good way to play around rng from these modes

verbal berry
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I've been working on Hounds a bit

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I just need a core to drop from a Sister of parvos and and I can make a spectacular hound

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Speaking of which

Which Tenet Melee would y'all recommend?

unique tartan
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Figured I'd do a random public mission on HollvaniaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

unique tartan
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i have no idea and I hate this abomination

verbal berry
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I am guessing they snuck aboard whatever time machine the Acolytes use

lavish pebble
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FYI slash damage mods don't effect the damage of slash procs.

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Only base damage does.

tame aspen
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Screw it ima do the math.

lone ibex
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make merulina moddable pls, ty

south girder
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His prime’s out of the question though

verbal berry
south girder
verbal berry
south girder
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Didn’t see mb

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I had him but i helminthed him simply because I didn’t like how it felt to play him

verbal berry
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Funny how the Lotus called Chroma one of the most powerful frames ever but all everyone uses him for his as a money goblin

pallid canyon
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when chroma came out he genuinely was one of the strongest frames in the game

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he was functionally unkillable, had a massive damage boost ability, and his 4 was strong enough to carry through defense missions, which at the time was the most popular mode

verbal berry
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Got my Sevagoth to 217% strength

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Just one Umbral Intensify and one Transient Fortitude upgrade each and he reached 225

pallid canyon
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get it to 250-255 if you’re using him as a roar nuke BombaPoint

verbal berry
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250-255?

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Ah crap my umbral mod investment is screwing me over so bad

pallid canyon
verbal berry
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I know

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But I thought it was 225

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Did someone legit make a typo or remember wrong

pallid canyon
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you’ll hear different answers but its all between 250-255

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252 is a frequent answer

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so it may have been a typo

verbal berry
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So

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Scrap my Umbra Forma for Precision Intensify?

pallid canyon
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you can drop a strength mod and run molt augmented

verbal berry
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I do have Molt Augmented

pallid canyon
verbal berry
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His 4 is Roar

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With helminth

pallid canyon
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yeah, but roar isnt the only ability that needs strength

verbal berry
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I thought that if his Roar is enhanced it would even out?

pallid canyon
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but molt augmented is 60% strength, so you only have to hit 190-195

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I personally just use transient fortitude and 3 red shards for ability strength

red path
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how much strength it needs without roar?

pallid canyon
torn night
pallid canyon
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you can also do it with Nourish

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with lower strength

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but its less consistant than just using the generic roar nuke since it doesnt require enemies to get hit/hit you to prime them

torn night
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Nourish applies 1 viral stack on explosion tho?

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subsumed ofc

pallid canyon
torn night
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yea that's why the alternative is usually epitaph

pallid canyon
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its preferable to just kill enemies on the other side of the map before they even get within range of priming guns/nourish

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epitaph/kompressa is a nice tool to use before you hit 250+ Ability Strength with a roar from augmented

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but thats like 1-2 minutes tops

verbal berry
pallid canyon
verbal berry
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So I subsume Nourish onto his 4?

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And bring an aoe status spreader when possible?

pallid canyon
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because it just does at any distance

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without needing enemies withing range of nourish explosions or shooting you

verbal berry
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Still though, even with Molt Augmented it would make the early parts of a mission hell

pallid canyon
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they wont kill you at low levels either

torn night
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that it's 100% true
the con with Roar is that it forces you to use two augments, a helminth slot, and push yourself to stay at 255% str. which is not very friendly to many players with a pretty tight build and you don't need the stupid high kpm.
Viral 200% str is fine, not every mission in this game needs ridiculous high kpm

pallid canyon
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imo the sole benefit of nourish is just energy sustain over roar

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as sevagoth is super energy hungry

torn night
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No, sev roar nuke is super energy hungry

pallid canyon
verbal berry
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Yeah the problem with that is that I'm trying to prep for Archimedea and all this makes me think I should just wait for next week instead where I have time to plan out my builds