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livid mist
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While hunting wildlife on Deimos, you can just get tokens from him on the side, which still isn't bad but isn't the best

abstract robin
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is there a major diff between mutalist quanta and quanta vandal ?

lofty garden
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wiki will tell you

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WARFRAME Wiki

The Mutalist Quanta is an Infested fused Quanta with a rapid-fire function in place of the Quanta's continuous beam. Like its normal version, the Mutalist Quanta possesses a unique Alternate Fire that shoots infested orbs that strengthens bullets that pass through it and can explode.

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has a comparison to regular and vandal

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also lists mutalist quanta having an exclusive mod

tulip magnet
abstract robin
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ah neat already have that mod in inventory

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even got a mutalist riven 🙂 gotta love whats lost in inventory sometimes

charred bobcat
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how can i sold weapons like Azima, they are too hard to use

rancid steppe
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guys what are the best prime weapons i can get for mid-game? i am MR20

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steelpath especially

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weapons in general not just prime actually

abstract robin
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Incarnons. Boar, burston, bo, braton all come to mind

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Torid if you got it is nuts too

rancid steppe
abstract robin
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Duviri

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Weekly rotations, grind the circuit, unlock it, go to the zaraman common area, forget name of vendor but you can aquire it from there using duviri materials

rancid steppe
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once i unlock it then i can apply it to any of the weps it lists? or do i need every version of a certain wep to be able to use its incarnon?

shell elbow
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Glaxion or torid

abstract robin
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Not too hard

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Example boar. The incarnon can be put on boar or boar prime

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So its weapon family limited

rancid steppe
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thanks a lott

abstract robin
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But torid inc is one of the strongest

shell elbow
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Bro just answered 2 questions at once

rancid steppe
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between braton, lato, skana, paris, and kunai which one lol. current rotation

shell elbow
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Kuni and lato kinda mid no?

abstract robin
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Rotation resets in a few hrs

shell elbow
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Torid is in bio lab right?

shell elbow
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So I gotta make a bio lab

abstract robin
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Should make all the labs if your clan doesnt have

shell elbow
vale remnant
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ngl unless youre committed on making your own clan id just join one with full research

abstract robin
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Ah , ouchie

lofty garden
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make your own clan

vale remnant
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fortunately torid isnt that far up in the biolab research

shell elbow
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Like 24

abstract robin
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12

vale remnant
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less work than making everything on your own lol

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but you do you

shell elbow
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Ah if it’s 12 ima do it

vale remnant
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also doesnt research also take time

shell elbow
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That’s a lot less time than 24

shell elbow
robust osprey
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A new player here. Only at MR3 and just been focusing on opening junctions. Are there any frames or specific weapons early on I should farm for?

I am still figuring out the game with how mods and such specifically works. Also clans how specifically do clans work on Warframe ?

I am a long time MMO player since the late 90's. This game is a bit different than any game I have played systems wise.

slender sparrow
lofty garden
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loki, rhino, ivara, titania, nezha, hildryn

shell elbow
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Wukong too

vale remnant
patent mason
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So join a maxed one and you are good

vale remnant
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at mr3 theres not many weapons you can even try to go for

shell elbow
patent mason
shell elbow
patent mason
robust osprey
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Does your choice on syndicates effect the game or is it more to do daily stuff and such?

patent mason
vale remnant
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can do 4 with very slight management

patent mason
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tru that

slender sparrow
lofty garden
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easy enough to rotate the syndicates

slender sparrow
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Yeah basically daily stuff.
But spread out over a year or so

robust osprey
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Ah so initial picks aren't set in stone. Nice.

lofty garden
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eh, only a year isn’t bad

slender sparrow
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After maxing your daily rep every single day,
you should own all items from all 6 syndicats in about a year.

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It uses to be less.
But they added more cosmetics, Simulacrums and such.

lofty garden
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daily rep and the syndicate missions and the medallions

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40-60k standing a day if you don’t bank the medallions for later

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and half that for the allied syndicate

leaden obsidian
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Cause they spawn around a circle, so there’s just a big circle of nothing in the middle

lofty garden
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"My Ambulas!"

placid turtle
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Fun fact I just learned via a TikTok, but if you type in any of these into the login screen instead of your email, then log in, you enter some stress tests
grineer.outbreak
corpus.outbreak
crossfire
hostile.takeover
science.rules
visit.lasria

pearl parcel
placid turtle
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brainrot

leaden obsidian
placid turtle
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yt brainrot is a different breed

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might be how the warframe infestation started tbh

leaden obsidian
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True

rigid bobcat
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.

leaden obsidian
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Hello

vale saddle
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Cheers, I dont understand the Market. I have the Mercury quest that asked to purchase Rhino Blueprint with Credits. When I look in the market, I dont see it on the market for credits. Do I need to land somewhere to complete this?

marsh linden
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You will see the proper details and breakdown

And also the different purchase options, including the blueprint for credits

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Its that way for basically any non cosmetic item

marsh linden
vale saddle
marsh linden
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Clicking rhino in the market does nothing?

vale saddle
marsh linden
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Something is missing there

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Screenshot your market

vale saddle
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When I click, I only get an option for plat

marsh linden
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Actually click that

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Click the image

vale saddle
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Ahh okay

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I see it there

placid turtle
marsh linden
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And again it is like that for any non cosmetic item

vale saddle
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Nice way to bury it on their part

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Thank you for the help

placid turtle
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Respectfully, you didn't even click it

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It's not hidden at all

vale saddle
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When I looked at it, I only see the Plat request. So in my head, that was the only purchase option. When I seen click the picture, I thought I was to do it in the Navigation.

white geyser
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i have naramon focus lenses on my frame, primary and melee but now im not getting any focus what should i do?

hollow delta
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...

pearl parcel
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there are also better things to do than use brainrot

agile igloo
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chat, i clicked "decide later" on the loop reset thingy in hex. Can i decide like, idk now? or it meant that i shall decide after 4 weeks? 😭

livid mist
agile igloo
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nothing appears so far

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ALR, IT SHOWED UP

tender perch
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Damn NovaUmbral fell off

tired nova
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Noooooooooooo I was so close

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Now i gotta wait until the next rotation to get the lato incarnon

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Such a stupid game mode

placid turtle
white crescent
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how can I make a sigil a solid color?

red vale
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I got critical tier 3 with nyx so good

pseudo forge
white crescent
pseudo forge
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there should be?
its one of the last options iirc

shadow canyon
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Bro, i saw a guy saying that the normal Mesa is better than Prime Mesa, is that real?

pseudo forge
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unless there's some weird interaction with her regulators, prolly not

shadow canyon
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Bruh

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Just one thing, what is the channel to ask for help to open relics and such?

pseudo forge
sharp orchid
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didn't realize you get titania through a quest, before picking her for the circuit lol

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already had Ivara and I knew Inaros was a quest too.

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derp

pseudo forge
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meh
two titanias
or a titania and a pile of credits
up to you

timber cloak
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Hi guys, I am a newbie in warframe and this server.

half jewel
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6 days later

pine charm
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how to get rid of transference with bumpers

lofty garden
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Remap it?

true scroll
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I'm wondering if Vauban is all about Flechette Orb for dps and using Zenurik for energy?

timid berry
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It does lead to more damage in a sense but that's the only reason look up hotshot mesa by a guy named vu thang he's the one that showed it off

verbal birch
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Thought you could only get rivens if you selected it as the T5/T10, so that's a lesson for me

sour fog
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Which one y’all think is better?

true scroll
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as a newer player I think the left one
since more base damage can mean more critical damage, also it has more multishot and elemental damage

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though the right one technically can boost your crit a bit more with puncture

worthy wedge
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is it normal for Nautilus to activate cordon continuously or did i just break somethin?

sick haven
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I'd say the right one

Left one kinda debuff with infested if you dont like it

Also pjncture multishot adds a nic additoon to damage too

opaque hinge
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saying "I'm bad at this game" without saying it

devout burrow
inland flume
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question: baruuk doesnt require a stat stick anymore since the exalted/pseudo-exalted rework right?

devout burrow
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yes

inland flume
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sweet

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do exalted still get benefits from a stat stick weapon? or they've totally removed that

worthy wedge
inland flume
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word word thank you

devout burrow
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we got 45m no LoS nukes scaling with weapon damage and 100% true dmg nukes that can be cast whenever 🙏

worldly musk
devout burrow
worthy wedge
worldly musk
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Where do i post WTS post?

devout burrow
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or in game chat if you wanna scam

worldly musk
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Was asking in this serverClemsive

devout burrow
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trying to sell here aint it

tidal ledge
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e

worldly musk
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f

bold willow
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yo

sudden tendon
stone peak
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is there any place best to get entrati lanthorns the easiest?

inland plinth
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I saw some goobers running around w these bright effects. I was wondering what it is and can I get it-👁️ 👁️

amber trench
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They sometimes have bundles of three

stone peak
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what bounty would be quickest to do that?

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surivival?

amber trench
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I don't know tbh
Survival should be pretty good

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The enemy voidrigs also have a chance to drop lanthorns

stone peak
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true

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thank you :3

amber trench
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Yeah just rush down the Gruzzling whenever it spawns, you'll get either an echo voca, a melee arcane or 3 lanthorns

raven robin
opaque hinge
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Just wanna know

vivid falcon
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leveling up garuda specifically suuuuuucks

strong field
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Why

vivid falcon
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bcuz her claws i cant melee out of archwing without slamming down on enemies while i farm xp in plains of eidolon. and im not very good at the silence method, hydron and sanctum also feel too slow

worthy wedge
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ESO will only take like at most 4 zones with a squad

vivid falcon
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i havent tried ESO yet.. do ESO zones take the same amount of time as SO?

worthy wedge
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yes 2min per zone

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but ESO gives more xp

vivid falcon
vivid falcon
worthy wedge
vivid falcon
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ill try ESO tho shes lvl 20 now and this should be the last forma i need for her

vivid falcon
inland plinth
vivid falcon
undone wing
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How do people unlock archon hunts but not know how to not fail spy missions?

livid mist
raven robin
# opaque hinge What point is it

health & armor buffs don't really matter if they gave her the longest gate ever for free
no real reason to buff her damage, doesn't do much important

i find she just got lots of qol updates but didn't really change much herself, playes the same yk

analog moat
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Is my tenet glaxion good? Just did my sister run today

raven robin
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solid is what it is

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progen% kinda low

analog moat
raven robin
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kuvas? a couple

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ogris, nukor, sobek, hek, zarr

livid mist
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If you like the idea of hitting people with a cannonball, i'd recommend at least thinking about the zarr, but try to get the other ones recommended first

radiant cedar
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Hek and orgis personally

raven robin
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hek got uses for~~ (iirc) 1-tapping archons~~ and lephantis, nukor just good overall, sobek (with acid shells) can be made into a room nuker, ogris needed for pt, zarr best for summon exp grinding (forgot name)

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also ogris if you wanna arbi farm wit saryn

worthy wedge
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the hek cant 1 tap archons anymore thanks to damage attenuation

raven robin
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oh really? damn that blows

worthy wedge
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yea they fixed that a while ago

raven robin
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i have not done archon in a while lol

crude birch
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fairly new to Warframe but learning. Open to any suggestions or help in understanding all there is to this game.

leaden obsidian
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Don’t die, figure out what stats affect what abilities and if the stats are useful, like in octavia since her abilities scale with enemy level basically she doesn’t want any strength but wants to keep it at 100%(aka neutral)

quartz marsh
leaden obsidian
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Oh and don’t rush quests, trust

quartz marsh
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Go fastest route through planets so you can do quests later when you are bored

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Join a clan with little trade tax

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You don’t have to pay to get plat (warframe currency bought with money) you can trade stuff for plat to players trading does use credits ( base currency ) the more they offer the more creds you use clans will put taxes so it takes more money so the clan can build more clan stuff

leaden obsidian
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Do not listen to this man, don’t rish the planets and quests

quartz marsh
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Rush*

leaden obsidian
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Hey! My grammar is fine ty

quartz marsh
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Also I’m not saying rush quests and planets I’m saying WHEN he wants to go through the planets

misty cosmos
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Miraculously got all the parts for braton prime! So I’m crafting it now, sure hope it’s not as bad as the stats make it look

hearty rock
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does anyone know does nekros desecrete increase the chance of disruption key to drop

misty cosmos
quartz marsh
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Idk i haven’t used Nekros in years

hearty rock
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oh

leaden obsidian
quartz marsh
leaden obsidian
hearty rock
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im doing amatrus on demois

quartz marsh
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Murmur?

hearty rock
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yea

leaden obsidian
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Murmur

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Hunt eximus I believe then

quartz marsh
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Gruzlings spawn loid tells you

leaden obsidian
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Oh yeah gruzzlings also drops a key

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Don’t know if there are any other key carriers

quartz marsh
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@hearty rock trying to get Dante?

hearty rock
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no tryna get riven transmuter

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does anyone know arcane aegies on gauss giving him immortal shield a bug or a feature

hearty rock
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does de ever try to fix it

strong field
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Not really

hearty rock
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alright

upper granite
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yoooooooooooooooooooo

strong field
solar halo
leaden obsidian
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I rather ball of murder

solar halo
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same

glacial abyss
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help how do i activate the energy effects on acanthus prime leg armor?

storm vapor
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couldn't do a tridolon tonight, gantulyst killed my lure right before i killed it

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so did a gantulyst and 2 teralysts instead

dim crystal
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Tried eidelon hunts and volt shield is glitched with tenacious bond

short ingot
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encountered a doppelganger in the wild

pseudo forge
red vale
stable bluff
winged stratus
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How much plat would this sell for??
ogris visi gelipha
+80.8% Heat
+81.2% Cold
+152.4% Damage

primal dune
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I ranked up ventkids after doing waverider challenges. What do I pick, and are everything here obtainable after I pick a choice?

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Cuz honestly they're all kdrive mods and idk if I really have needs for them :v so Imma pick air time ig

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Can I get everything else without in-game currency tho?

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Oh fyi im talking platinum not like credits

pseudo forge
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everything's obtainable after, using their syndicate standing

primal dune
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All right good to know imma get a mod then

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Lets go, a new tenno blueprint and good stuff!

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btw how do I get control module?

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another question, do affinity booster runs out if you close game?

pseudo forge
pseudo forge
primal dune
mystic ocean
pseudo forge
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i've wasted probably 75% of the boosters i got from yareli prime accessories lmao
but daily rewards keep extending it so its still there

red vale
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Tennos what does the violet shard do

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The one that does primary electricity damage

quaint brook
red vale
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Read the message after it

vale falcon
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That specific shard buff works as if you'd just equipped stormbringer onto the primary, more of that buff makes it increase more tho due to the stacking secondary effect of it

runic jackal
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where / when do you unlock arcane shards

vale falcon
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Archon shards are unlocked after completing the veilbreaker quest

primal dune
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Sweet, maxxed rank the credit mk1 bo

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So like, I can sell it now right?

vale falcon
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Yeah just sell it

primal dune
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Idk how to sell 💀

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nvm figured it out

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question, do I have to unequip my sentinel too?

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Im hoping I don't lol

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My companion I mean

pseudo forge
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just secondary and melee

primal dune
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Ohhhh ok ok awesome

neon verge
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:D

lyric lotus
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Valk is in EDA rotation and oraxia with her weapon is in ETA rotation this week... IvaraSippy might just solo the whole thing this time.

gusty heart
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i stuck at ayatan room what should i do

hollow monolith
gusty heart
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when i was jump (at sky) fall effect kicked and i found my self at ayatan room

primal dune
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Novice rank GOT

crystal wigeon
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so far this is the mods ive get for the Exalted blade

rough plover
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Convectrix or Panthera for ETA?

narrow badge
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dang I forgot broken war was a thing

crystal wigeon
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I don't get to use higher rank swords.. so far this is what I would bring tbh jumping in n out of Duviri and planet missions is all I try to do

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You sound like it used to be a good weepunz

narrow badge
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I think it's still reliable for that part of the game + its free

violet night
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imma be honest I'm a new player and I have no better melees other that broken war and umbra's melee

narrow badge
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oh skiajati is also a good welfare weapon probably better than broken war

violet night
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yea
I honestly use it for heavy dmg crit builds

primal dune
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wtf is that a potato?

sudden tendon
primal dune
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Oh sadge

sudden tendon
lyric lotus
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those are one version of potato which will be needed for pretty much every prime wf/weapon crafting.

dull meteor
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So I've been using Kullervo alot more recently, building him up, slotting Archon shards and I stuck my decked out Hate on him. I started hitting 100 million red Crits and above. I think my biggest was 374 million so far and I just gotta say that's a pure dopamine rush. Absolutely disgusting (in the best way possible).

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I can't wait until they make a Prime Kullervo, I know it'll be a few years though

strong field
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Kullervo does that

sudden tendon
dull meteor
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Harrow is my favorite but Kullervo has worked his way up to my second fave

dull meteor
sudden tendon
dull meteor
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I just want the Prime lol

strong field
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Im satisfied with just his new skin

dull meteor
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Yeah it's pretty nice

lyric lotus
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wrathful advance, put it in any frame see red crit galore.

dull meteor
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I stuck it on my Excalibur Umbra

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Replaced his 2

lyric lotus
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i put it on one of valks build

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and it makes her even more nasty

dull meteor
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That's gotta be deadly, I'll have to give it a try

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Which ability of hers did you swap?

lyric lotus
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her 3rd, would have swapped 1 but i need that spiderman thingy

dull meteor
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True haha

lyric lotus
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@strong field you friend with new loka?

wanton bay
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best place to make credits fast?

pure gulch
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both the mobility and grouping

dull meteor
tranquil kayak
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So I wonder what that cinematic in The Old Peace is gonna look like if the Lotus isn't in her Radiant outfit

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Or does Lotus always appear that way in cinematics?

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wait i'm going to spoiler chat instead

calm bluff
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Morning everyone

twilit kernel
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what is that pink thing by the scarf?

winter bison
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Interact with the Helminth to get rid of it

dull meteor
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You can also let it grow and then incubate it into an Infested Puppy if you wish.

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Just make sure you have a Kubrow egg and an Incubator Power Core

strong field
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My 1st account is but my current one is steel and red veil

patent mason
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are warframe chat serversr glitching out for anybody else?

placid turtle
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Nope, chat servers are all fine here

patent mason
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good, thought it was on my end

placid turtle
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Also, is the Naktavyre armor set from Tennocon twitch drops meant to be evolving?

hollow sky
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i was just bout to use market 😭

devout badge
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would love your opinion

placid turtle
patent mason
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prob then ig, unless u acquired both at the same time perhaps?

placid turtle
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Oh nah lmao it's definitely a bug, every single armor I try previewing says it

patent mason
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man chat servers went down at the worst time honestly

teal mountain
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Same thing with physic why would u use it if you can tank with his 4 or the shield regen on kill of his 3

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Physique*

steady elm
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@timid osprey @steel wraith unlucky, maybe the next run

timid osprey
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Yeah, it is what it is

queen ridge
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Is void the best place to find ayatan sculpures or is it the same for everywhere

lofty garden
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It's space herpes, not space aids.

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Nah, you can find ayatan scupltures in every tileset.

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Golden Instinct and Orokin Eye will detect them. I've found ayatan sculptures in the 1999 tileset. You get one guaranteed a week from Maroo, and a sculpture is a common reward from Sortie.

tranquil kayak
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idk how I did this but I love it

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Oh it might be glowing because of Tennokai

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To hazard a guess I might have turned on Exalted Blade while my Skiajati had a Tennokai proc and it didn't remove the VFX

tardy quail
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hello

wet veldt
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Hi all!

rancid steppe
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which incarnons are best this week between Boar Gammacor Anku Gorgon Angtrum

pure sentinel
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tbh decorating again and everytime just lose motivation again does everyones still kinda feell decorating itself needs a rework and also should get rid of red zones entirely ?

fair flame
pure sentinel
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or even if u can call it quuality of life decorating where u can remove decorating capacity to add it to another place where u dont need to remaining, redzones should just be removed when decorating and even cliping rough objects whould be nice and prob just snaping objects together whould be awsome

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like for my helminth room i do not need 1600 capicity

tranquil kayak
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Anku is good if you feel like spamming slide attacks

lusty nebula
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is it just me or are there less enemys in circut sp?

covert spade
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It feels like more

willow coral
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why so much point needed

meager dust
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hello chat

lusty nebula
lyric lotus
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oraxia's default helmet looks better then the alt one ScottStare

amber trench
fair flame
brittle spire
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Why does there need to be so many ships…

devout burrow
eager horizon
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i feel dumb ive been ignoring invasions for parts I already have because I didn't notice they parts are tradable

brittle spire
grim copper
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when was burston in the incarnate list?

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and how often does it change

eager horizon
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oh are those incarnon weapons i haven't looked at yet versions of other weapons, not like kitguns or just new guns?

pure gulch
eager horizon
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an attempt at making little used weapons more used i suppose

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are the different parts of invasion weapons equally likely to appear?

wide bolt
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hello guys

ashen gyro
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wsg chat

solar temple
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How do I get into modding? Like most of the good mods I have no idea where they are and I wanna do Steel Path but I also don’t wanna scroll through like 20+ pages on website just to make one build alone

proven warren
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hii

amber knoll
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at the very least youd wanna know how to identify crit/onhit weapons

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(sorry, status weapons lol, force of habit)
lets say a gun haassss.... idk, 30%CR 2.5xCD and 8% status. oh boy! i do wonder what kinda gun it is! hint hint, crit.
now, tahts not to say you arent building any status at all. hell nah. you ideally still wanna be able to use some status effects such as maybe Corrosion to shred thru enemy armour, or Magnetic to crunch through those Overguards and stuff.
also might b nice to understand some synergies or wtv, like Slash Viral (basically just true dmg shredding over time) or Heat Corrosive or wtv, idk, im still learning too
and plus if all else fails, look at overframe and check what kinda stats theyll wanna be building

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as for warframes, it just depends what type of stats and playstyle youre going for ig. again, if all else fails, overframe it.

low plinth
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lol bug did anyone encounter this ?

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no enemy spawn

torpid acorn
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Hi. I need advice please. When i use helminth invigoration on wukong. Does only wukong get the bonus or do other frames get it as well?

winter bison
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Only wukong

still crater
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What kind of builds do people use the falcor for? Gas infliction?

summer temple
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Can do heavy throw spam or 12x light throw spam

still crater
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Does the throw build combo?

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Ik heavy explosive uses it

summer temple
opal knot
#

Not really a Valkyr main

So I must ask

Has she always had very low shields?

summer temple
#

I think so

lyric lotus
#

she has high armor, sheild is just there for show and once you hit her 4 she pretty much invincible as long as you keep the killing high

still crater
#

I think so

opal knot
#

So no point in giving her shield mods?

summer temple
lyric lotus
#

true

livid mist
summer temple
livid mist
#

Crank out her armor and health, throw on arcane battery if you can.

#

The health isn't as necessary but just as a precaution

#

Once you get the feel of her you can probably remove it

lyric lotus
#

the three umbral build is fine with valk for easy go and be cute

summer temple
#

Imo you don't even need anything on her
Maybe a rolling guard and that's it
Her passive is enough to skip survivability

livid mist
#

You want to build her primarily for strength, duration, range and then dump efficiency usually

summer temple
#

Her 2 and 4 make her immortal in base SP
For anything higher, her passive death gate keeps you alive

winter bison
summer temple
opal knot
pure gulch
#

ay lemon are you available rn if you still wanted the yareli systems

livid mist
#

I'm pretty sure I run fiber and vitality myself

#

Let me double check

lyric lotus
summer temple
#

Works, but like
Why

opal knot
#

So no?

#

Ok can somebody share their Valkyr Prime build?

livid mist
summer temple
# opal knot So no?

It works
But it's insanely capacity intensive
And it wastes mod slots when you're already effectively immortal via passive

summer temple
livid mist
#

Having just one umbral mod always feels weird to me on a build because it feels like you would want the set bonus

pure gulch
#

I've used this myself, works fine at least base SP

summer temple
#

Putting 2 mods on to increase strength by 20%
For 32 capacity
When augur secrets exists

lyric lotus
pure gulch
#

in place of avenger i have used fury too just experimenting

lyric lotus
#

can you get me the eternal war mod if you have standing? @_@

pure gulch
#

sure

lyric lotus
#

awesome! let me log in lol

winter bison
summer temple
pure gulch
#

could be yeah

#

I haven't really looked at any guides just tested stuff myself

lyric lotus
#

if base valk was a little less annoying to get, she would be a great frame for baby tennos honestly

pure gulch
#

did you need anything else lemon

lyric lotus
#

nah just eternal war

pure gulch
#

i have capped standing on veil/meridian/loka/perrin so standing isn't an issue lol

livid mist
#

Regardless she's really hard to not make work, just make sure strength, duration range in that order. Dump efficiency and throw on arcane battery+ equilibrium

summer temple
#

Base valk is fine?

#

Imo range over duration

pure gulch
#

ait

livid mist
# summer temple Imo range over duration

That's arguable if you want the benefits of war cry consistently, it helps make the upkeep a little easier and you don't have to keep casting it. Although it does become a little less of an issue with eternal war

dim crystal
#

Anyone know when if the tenacious bond glitch with volt shield is intentional or if it’s just a glitch ?

livid mist
#

I guess it does really depend on how much you want to focus on ripline

summer temple
#

They made warcry's animation 10x faster and it no longer stops you
And eternal war exists
She doesn't REALLY need a ton of duration except to offset her 4 energy cost

livid mist
#

Yeah that's why I run it

#

So it really depends on your build

strong field
#

isnt shade prime supposed to make me invisible around enemys?

summer temple
#

It needs the mod equipped

winter bison
#

Yes

strong field
eager horizon
#

would it make sense to delay progressing hex until that new update comes or do we probably need hex progressed to access it

livid mist
#

You'd probably need the hex, and besides..there's not really a reason not to do it now anyway

summer temple
winter bison
eager horizon
#

i mean there would be 2 reasons, theory.
first just the fact theres so much other stuff i need to do.
And the kim romance stuff, not picking one of the current people before the new people are added

livid mist
livid mist
eager horizon
#

sure, but i would

#

its ranking everyone up at the same time vs already having hex maxxed when the new peoplea re added

winter bison
livid mist
summer temple
#

Also, waiting 5 months to level a syndicate as essential as the hex is diabolical

eager horizon
#

ffs if its 5 months away they shouldn't have annoucned it yet

livid mist
#

Yeah there's a lot of good stuff locked behind the hex, including arcanes, weekly free archon shards, etc

livid mist
eager horizon
#

5 months is enough time for the hype to die before its even out

livid mist
#

Lol.. not really... Have you ever waited 8 years for a movie to come out?

#

5 months isn't that much.

eager horizon
#

of course not. by 8 years i couldn't care less about the series anymore

summer temple
#

They always do that

livid mist
#

It's just giving us stuff to look forward to

#

I'd rather know what's upcoming than having something shadow drop

#

Because then I can get excited

summer temple
#

I like a healthy mix of both

livid mist
eager horizon
#

if something shadow drops, you can get it at the time you're excited about it

summer temple
livid mist
#

Like the theories and hypothesizing

#

It's good for the community

#

Gets people talking about the game, keeps people talking about the game, because of that brings new people in,

#

Gives the newbies time to catch up

#

Lets you play other stuff in the meantime if you want

eager horizon
#

if i could play the announced content now i would.
What will happen instead is i'll forget about it before its out, won't be active at the time of release, won't even know it's out because the announced hype was ages ago, and it'll be out for two years before i end up doing it

summer temple
#

My buddy got hyped enough for the tennolive announcements to redownload the game

livid mist
#

I would also bet that the update is still being worked on. If it were to drop now it would not be in a good state. And companies going radio silent especially when they've been very vocal and interactive about later updates with their community is not a good thing

#

Closest comparison I can think of is team fortress 2

summer temple
livid mist
#

Not everything needs to happen immediately. If there's one thing I've learned about this game, is if you love it..you WILL come back.

#

You'll always get that itch

eager horizon
#

my comparison I suppose would be sea of thieves.
When they announced a coming update would add new weapon types, the announcement hype made me play again.
By the time the weapons were actually added, i wasn't playing anymore, any hype was gone, and I still haven't seen the new weapons because I haven't played.

livid mist
#

That way you won't be totally uninterested come the time

#

We've also got other stuff showing up in the meantime

summer temple
livid mist
#

Yeah

#

We've still got:
Oberon rework coming

new modding quest for new tenno that I'm going to check out if only cuz I'm happy it's finally coming to the game, Plus teshin real, woo!

The likely fungi and mushroom themed frame.

And Caliban Prime

pale crag
#

Player French ?

eager horizon
#

a modding quest, what, like, a quest that opens at mr 0 to get a basic modpack?

livid mist
summer temple
#

Quest that properly introduces teshin into the story before the natah quest and teaches new players how to mod

livid mist
#

Like, I don't really need the modding help, but I'm just happy that teshin is real

#

He's not fake guys

#

He's not dead

summer temple
#

The game desperately needed a modding tutorial

#

Let's just hope it's good

eager horizon
#

actually oberon makes me have a thought.
Sometimes knowing about upcoming content for a game, can make playing the game before then feel devalued.
Oberon is hardly "the game" but he makes for a convenient example because if I know he's being reworked, I wouldn't want to play him now.
There's defineitely been games where they announced a dlc, so I didn't touch the game until the dlc was out, but also I forgot by them so it was actually out for several months before I played lol

shell elbow
#

Are there any mods I can put on glaxion for more range

#

If so where can I get them

main yarrow
#

anyone else having problem with audio ?

summer temple
livid mist
#

Valkyr feels so much better, it's not even funny

eager horizon
#

That opens you to the opportunity to prefer the old version, which can affect your enjoyment of the new version.

livid mist
eager horizon
#

Valk was the first frame I played on coming back, because old favorite.
I noticed she'd been reworked, didn't realize it was a new rework though I figured it had probably happened ages ago

livid mist
eager horizon
#

what actually changed beyond not being invincible anymore

#

because im playing her the exact same way as before

#

permenant ult uptime rampaging screechy girl

static charm
#

So I want to prepare for thermia fractures for the next time it comes around. Is there a good frame for this? I was thinking frost but I'm open for more ideas since I'm gonna see if i can build something before it comes around (I might already have something if its suggested)

winter bison
livid mist
# eager horizon what actually changed beyond not being invincible anymore

Okay so..

They made ripline more consistent, as well as it now functions as a grouping tool that works well with her passive.

War cry is much faster and is recastable.

paralysis no longer requires shields to cast, and it's pretty much the "this enemy is too tanky, I'm going to get angrier now and rip through them" button.

Her four animation speed has been vastly increased and damage overall has been changed so she does more.

static charm
# livid mist What are your thoughts on her rework?

Valkyr's rework really makes her a lot nicer to play. Before her warcry for example made her stop dead in her tracks. Now you can yell while moving without losing your pace. In general its been a very nice QoL rework.

summer temple
#

Even more than what I said tbh

livid mist
#

This is not even mentioning the fact that the previous armor ability she had was completely irrelevant in the face of hysterias vulnerability.

eager horizon
#

well, before and after, seem all I do is ult and instagib everything with claws, never needing the other abilities

static charm
summer temple
summer temple
livid mist
summer temple
static charm
#

I have a valkyr build if anyone wants it

eager horizon
#

so in this modern day should I be subsuming Empower over zipline, warcry, or paralyze?
I used to have it over warcry

static charm
#

you need a companion with it for the most part to make the most of it

static charm
#

ripline is very good

livid mist
#

Nourish isn't needed if you just build her for armor and then slap on arcane battery

#

But that mostly functions the best with a hysteria focused build

summer temple
#

1 grouping is kinda bad

#

It's fun to use tho

#

I run no helminth

livid mist
#

I don't know about that, but her one is really consistent for making sure you can get to enemies at least, as her movement speed is kind of slow

summer temple
crimson parrot
#

.

raven robin
raven robin
livid mist
#

Yeah her one should mostly be used as a movement tool

livid mist
summer temple
#

Warcry and hysteria cap it

raven robin
#

numbers

#

we knew this before the rework even dropped

eager horizon
#

gonna be honest, my current mod loadout gives her heavily reduced range, so i don't imagine using 3 for grouping working lol.
I saw that warcry was affinity link now so I said "yea negative range mods"

raven robin
#

well anyone could if you just ran ze numbers through battery

summer temple
#

She wants range

livid mist
#

Yeah, dump efficiency

raven robin
#

eh

livid mist
#

Or duration, depending on eternal war

eager horizon
#

why would i dare dump efficiency when my goal is permenant ult uptime

raven robin
#

valkyr doesnt really need that much str anyway

#

you could go to cap with 139 str with no issues

eager horizon
#

oh dangit helminth i just took multiple primes out of forge but can only subsume one of the base versions per day

summer temple
eager horizon
#

yea I know. my builds uses extra efficiency to make up for having reduced duration.

#

since thats a thing you can do

livid mist
#

They also made it so the energy drain on 4 is not nearly as bad

raven robin
#

it was never bad tho

livid mist
#

Yeah, I don't know about that personally?? DE made the drain more manageable regardless

raven robin
#

it was always manageable

#

you didnt play valk prework?

livid mist
#

That's not what I'm trying to say here, meats. I'm saying that they made it easier, not that it wasn't easy.

#

Besides your build is probably very different than mine

raven robin
#

okay

eager horizon
#

especially since I used to subsume over warcry, I'd use fleeting expertise, streamline, and transient fortitude.
Efficiency past the cap of still worked if negative duration would have brought you back below cap

raven robin
#

nyx prerework had crazy drain on her 4
valkyr didnt really change much

#

the only way youd find it hard to manage was by running blind rage

livid mist
#

Lol, that's exactly why.

raven robin
#

valkyr doesnt even need br anyway, is what im saying
it was always unecessary

#

so saying she had a bad drain on her 4 is likely more of a build issue than how high the drain actually was

raven robin
#

its like running blind rage on mesa
why?

livid mist
eager horizon
#

because I was already invincible with the ult up and nobody on the team would ever be in range for warcry anyway

#

now that it's affinity link instead of having range and ult isn't invincibility i might use it again

raven robin
summer temple
eager horizon
#

the armor buff was irrelevant because i was invicible, and offensive buffs were irrelevent because with the ult i already instagibbed everything making further buffing lack any purpose

raven robin
#

saying you hadda run a specific setups make me think of like altar nyx

devout burrow
#

saying no to extra attack speed is kinda crazy ngl

summer temple
#

Removing her only useful ability is diabolical

livid mist
#

Especially because she builds rage gate easier with it, plus enemies tend to die faster if you just.. attack faster

eager horizon
#

extra attack speed didn't matter when I already one shot every enemy in range

raven robin
#

ik subsuming over warcry is a thing for finisher spamming cuz of attack speed cap

devout burrow
#

attack speed still improves animation speed, the button press doesnt equal to instant hit

summer temple
#

Her stance was so ass that attack speed made it much nicer

elder lodge
#

...hear me out.

What if alliances had the option to feature a dojo that all the clans had access too

devout burrow
#

also attack speed improves movement speed too

eager horizon
#

yall realize the main thing, at least before the rework, was just slide attacking through everything, the entire group being dead, and having to find the next one

raven robin
#

has that changed? i mean she didnt really change that much

eager horizon
#

it seems to still be the only thing i do

devout burrow
eager horizon
#

its already instant

#

not to mention any attack speed mods on the claws

summer temple
#

Why would you waste mods on attack speed when your ability gives you more than any mod

devout burrow
#

personal beef with warcry 🥀

eager horizon
#

because i only have so many mods so I used a slot for quickening

livid mist
# raven robin but you didnt need a specific setup? wdym by that

they made it easier with running her in lower efficiency/duration builds. I remember the spreadsheets that were made to calculate how much hysteria drain she would take based on her build. The rework opened her up a little bit to get more modding/build opportunities than she would have had previously.

eager horizon
#

lets see what do I have on the claws i havent looked at since i loaded them out those years ago

raven robin
#

yes her rework opened up mod slots, no you dont need to squeeze more dmg out of valkyr

raven robin
#

no definitely not imao

#

she overkilled by a shit ton prerework and preexalted changes, even on "low" str setups

eager horizon
#

The two melee sacrifical mods, organ shatter, blood rush, rending strike, shocking touch, quickening, and an unleveled gladiator might because I was out of capacity.
I of course have mod options now I didn't have when I put those on, and need to put formas on it but didn't because I was using all my formas for dojo weapons

devout burrow
leaden obsidian
#

What be happening

bleak laurel
#

do companions benefit from galvanized mods? example im putting savvy and hell on my sweeper prime, but i dont run a shotgun primary, do they either get stacks by themselves, stack alongside my galvanized rifle mods, or none whatsoever?

leaden obsidian
eager horizon
#

Didn't have Jagged Edge when I put on Rending Strike, do now, could switch them

raven robin
bleak laurel
#

right, but?

devout burrow
#

GANG what are we cooking

raven robin
#

you have to run a shotgun with savvy for sweeper to get savvy buff

bleak laurel
#

god damit

raven robin
#

its not gonna hallucinate random galv mods

bleak laurel
#

why not

#

primed hallucinate when

leaden obsidian
eager horizon
#

cant use mods i don't have you know

devout burrow
livid mist
bleak laurel
#

youre right

leaden obsidian
eager horizon
#

because the claws have high slash damage to pull that 90% from so boost the big number?

leaden obsidian
#

Adding more slash doesn’t do anything

bleak laurel
raven robin
leaden obsidian
#

Adding more slash to slash doesn’t i crease those slash procs, it’s quite literally a waste of mod capacity

eager horizon
#

its not there for procs its there for damage

elder lodge
leaden obsidian
eager horizon
#

I did add element, in another slot.
Besides since I used the sacrifical mods I went for crit not status

elder lodge
#

If youre already using a base damage mod, theres no sense in using ips mods unless you are trying to weight for status

#

You will gain more damage using something else

leaden obsidian
raven robin
elder lodge
#

all ips mods

leaden obsidian
#

All useless

devout burrow
#

would be crazy to make them scale bleed to make bleed useful again but that'd be too much to ask for from the great balancing department DE has 🥀

raven robin
#

they were useful to make a quick buck during the motovore trend DagathLUL

leaden obsidian
#

I should’ve capitalized on it, damn

livid mist
#

I still want to make a motovore doughty build eventually for funny

raven robin
#

75p off a r0 buzz kill was certainly funny

elder lodge
#

Bleed/slash is still generally fine, but the mods themselves are not

leaden obsidian
eager horizon
#

more than anything it looks like "still waiting to be forma'd" with a slice of "didn't use mods I didn't own when setting up weapon"
Like if we're going to be absolutely real about any of my builds, I don't actually have any because I'm not making real ones until I'm mr 30, since I'm always swapping to new gear instead of using resources to improve old gear.

devout burrow
elder lodge
#

As someone with a L2, sp mr8, and waiting on vey hek to be reduced so my mr0 can hit sp, you need about 10 mods to clear the game

devout burrow
#

dont get me wrong its still nice to have forced bleeds from stances, but no one is doing centric builds around bleeds anymore

leaden obsidian
eager horizon
#

still don't have any primed mods, sadface

elder lodge
#

Vortex is fine IF you use manifold bond

leaden obsidian
devout burrow
#

did you mod your claws for magnetic or what

leaden obsidian
eager horizon
#

only melee arcane I've gotten any of is doughty

devout burrow
elder lodge
#

Like duplicate is fine IF its okina

leaden obsidian
cold marsh
devout burrow
#

duplicate is fine if its eclipse zaw or glaive prime/cerata fr

#

but anything else that remotely uses light attacks is also influence slop abuser

eager horizon
#

warframes stuck in foundry because helminth won't let subsume more than one per day. sadge.

elder lodge
#

Dont need influence when duplicate does it for ya with specteal daggers and you are spreading 2x influence status stacks

#

Okina and like dual keres or somethin have that 30sc 30 cc sweet spot. Galv steel and glad might, rest is status with ww, duplicate. Hitting 800% status at 12x with guaranteed 2 hits, every kill sends a spectral dagger that hits for 800% status...twice. its fun, out dps influence chromatic blade when, ya know, influence inst being given double damage in the simulacrum

frigid shoal
#

do you guys know abt the spearmint scythe skins what weapons can i put them on ?

elder lodge
elder lodge
frigid shoal
elder lodge
#

For the old heads, we used go get a unique coded, same skin every christmas. I have 4 spearmint skins?

#

No harm is a light(?) scythe

#

I can check if it skins rq

eager horizon
#

is it just me or did they make argon crystals way easier to get

elder lodge
#

Also just lol why 4 spearmints

silver crystal
#

Hi guys looking for a new MMO to try. Just popping into say Hi 🙂

queen ridge
#

Is the kuva bramma decent? I saw a guy using what looked like a bramma annihilating enemies

devout burrow
#

depends which frame you use it with, alone it kinda struggles cause of the low ammo but when you use it with someone like cyte or with gauss energized munitions its insanely good

#

its especially good on cyte cause it triggers his evade on the manually triggered AoE

#

and it also triggers cytes passive on the AoE

queen ridge
#

The person was using excalibur umbra i believe

elder lodge
#

Definitrly worth the 6000 steam hours i have between my 3 acc

queen ridge
#

I think im only st 900 somethin

#

Actually

#

I finally hit 1k hours

elder lodge
#

Founder so. 12 years

queen ridge
#

Im at 1,002

#

Ah makes sense

#

But ye, ive finally reached 1k

#

Idk why but it feels like an accomplishment for some reason

elder lodge
#

Big milestone!

queen ridge
#

I suppose

#

It just is confusing

#

Cuz like, it hasn't felt like 1000 hours

#

But it has been

elder lodge
#

Like "oh crap where did the hours go?" Or "i still dont understand disruption rotations?

queen ridge
#

Ye

#

But i understand disruption rotations

#

But the funny thing is that ive taken two or three, month long breaks

#

So if i never took those month long breaks id have a lot more hours

#

So for me, reaching 1k hours is just like "holy shit, ive been playing this long?"

#

Damn, almost 300k grineer kills

elder lodge
#

Ah ok ya lol

#

Steam also includes inactive time the game is open as well as while your modding or chatting. The ingame play time is missions and relays iirc

#

Yup!

tulip marsh
#

Hi

stoic vault
#

Does weekly reset happen on sunday or monday

verbal trout
#

elo

elder lodge
stoic vault
#

Okay thank you

clever rain
#

.

wanton bay
#

how much it takes for relics to get unvaulted?

candid berry
#

New returning player and my mods are terrible. Anyone willing to help?

#

PSN: BreezyIn09

elder lodge
magic wadi
#

e

frail heath
#

What is the best way to farm for gallium?

elder lodge
elder lodge
#

Wdym

candid berry
elder lodge
#

Theres like 40 prime sets

elder lodge
# frail heath What is the best way to farm for gallium?

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Argon Crystal

Small amounts

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    Large amounts
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Circuits

  • Draco - Ceres survival
  • Malva - Venus survival

Control Module

  • Mot - Void survival

Cryotic

  • Tikal - Earth excavation
  • Despina - Neptune excavation
  • Void Fissures excavation

Ferrite

  • Mot - Void survival
  • Tikal - Earth excavation
  • Apollodorus - Mercury survival

Gallium

  • Assur - Uranus survival

Hexanon

  • Ganymede - Jupiter disruption
  • Cameria - Jupiter survival

Morphics

  • Wahiba - Mars survival
  • Apollodorus - Mercury survival

Nano Spores

  • Hyf - Deimos defense
  • Terrorem - Deimos survival

Neural Sensors

  • Themisto - Jupiter assassination
  • Cameria - Jupiter survival

Neurodes

  • Tycho - Lua survival
  • Hyf - Deimos defense
  • Tikal - Earth excavation
  • Zabala - Eris survival

Orokin Cell

  • Magnacidium - Deimos assassination
  • Gabii - Ceres survival
  • Piscinas - Saturn survival

Oxium

  • Io - Jupiter defense

Plastids

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  • Ophelia - Uranus survival
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Rubedo

  • Mot - Void survival
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Salvage

  • Cameria - Jupiter survival
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  • Ophelia - Uranus survival
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magic wadi
#

ive got an issue:
my weapons are very weak for my account, i feel like they just don't deal enough damage to compare to my sword's heavy slam attack, or my warframe abilities, how would i fix that (ive got 150hr 💀)

elder lodge
magic wadi
#

k gimme a sec

tender perch
#

What are y'all opinions on shield gating? I'm tryna prove a point rq

lofty garden
#

Just use Hildryn

tender perch
signal tide
#

Whats up! New here and new to Warframe.

elder lodge
elder lodge
elder lodge
#

It is specifically not perfect, but very easy and very useful

tender perch
#

Unless you're Baruuk with 99.9% DR

elder lodge
#

Og is just the way to go for lc because it provides status immunity. If you are relying purly on shields, thats gunna be sweatier. Not impossible tho

tender perch
#

Sweatier, yeah, but i think OG has the trade-off of having a way shorter gate duration than shields

#

And usually health gating requires some sort of recourse to use for the frames who CAN do it, like Nidus or Valkyr

elder lodge
#

I dont enjoy level cap, i use shield gate for most builds for most things. Hell, prime redirection and arcane aegis+barrier gives you a zero effort pseudo shield gate that doesnt need anything under lv 500

tender perch
#

So what are you saying? Do you thinks its fine/fair or do you hate it?

elder lodge
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Its not god mode, but its the easiest way to not die.

I dont hate it, i dont think its the only way to do things. Its a good option if it fits the build and play style.

tender perch
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Okay, that makes sense. I think that's a fair analysis.

elder lodge
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I dont like catalyzing shields. It doesnt make any sense to ever use

mystic pecan
tender perch
elder lodge
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Well, when your mod makes the gate duration the same as having 300 shields, and most frames have that base, its not the most usefull thing

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It was released when they changed shield gate to tied to duration and they gave us a free one 🤣 its never been very useful

tender perch
elder lodge
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But that shouldnt matter

livid mist
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Brief question, shield gate mag effective?

tender perch
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Which aren't a common thing now since energy is so abundant and we can freely run low effiency

elder lodge
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If you have an augur mod or aura then any ability should reset your gate

tender perch
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80% of frames main form of survivability is shield gating

livid mist
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Neat

elder lodge
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Ya shes like one of the best for it

tender perch
livid mist
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i dont use shield gate, its why i asked

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i usually like health tanks lol

tender perch
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Mag is definitely not that, but you can build for that if you want

livid mist
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nah, doesnt seem effective

tender perch
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Just dont expect that to work in levels over 90 or 100

elder lodge
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I mean you can. Its just way harder for less benefit

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But i play melee only with funky stuff

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Sometimes harder for less benefit is fun

tender perch
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There are few frames who actually have shield gating into their kits. Most frames need Brief Respite/Augur mods to regen shields

livid mist
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I wish to make no helminth magnetize blender shield gate build, i should get on that

tender perch
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Oh, you can definitely build Mag without a helminth

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She's one of the frames who gets off easy without a Helminth, actually

elder lodge
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Mag is honestly one of the more overpowered kits

tender perch
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Yeah

livid mist
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yeah, pretty glad she is. Ive messed with her a bit, but i dont like the helminth system

elder lodge
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Helminth is great for certain things, but you dont need gloom on every frame

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Nourish valkyr go uwu rawr

livid mist
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i find a lot of uses for it are band aid fixes to kits that should already be functional without it. it should be dessert, not the main course

tender perch
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I think Mag's main helminth choice is Nourish. But you can forego that with weapon modding and her 4 augment for more damage

elder lodge
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Disagree. If anything augment mods are bandaids and helminth is a wild thing that makes stuff busted

raven robin
elder lodge
raven robin
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?

tender perch
elder lodge
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It gives you a 300 shield gate

tender perch
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Especially mags

elder lodge
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Most frames are base 300+ shield

raven robin
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yeah?

livid mist
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i can see that for some augs, but at the end of the day theyre both symptoms of bad frame kit design

raven robin
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you do know that it makes any % of shields give the full gate

elder lodge
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Brother

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Thats not what it does

raven robin
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???

tender perch
elder lodge
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It gives 3s shield gate dura for -80% or whatever shield capacity

tender perch
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A true bandaid augment is something like Kullervo's or Harrow's

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Or Gyre

livid mist
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guardian armor.

tender perch
raven robin
elder lodge
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Using primed redirection in every case gives a longer shield gate duration since youre still going to be using br or augur mods

tender perch
raven robin
livid mist
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a lot of his problems could be theoretically fixed by making all of his abilities scale off vex armor buffs

elder lodge
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Theres so much wrong with how that actually would play out.

You dont need to cap out primed redir, you just need to get more than 300 shield back to have a longer gate

livid mist
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he just has bad kit synergy

tender perch
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I wouldn't run PR unless its with Condemn, Razor Gyre, Pillage, or Shield Satellites

lavish pebble
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Their base damage are just so low it barely matters.

livid mist
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That explains it.

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buff em

tender perch
elder lodge
tender perch
elder lodge
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Augur accord i think ya? Like 100% direct upgrade. You dont even need them for shield gating, but if youre gunna waste a slot on catalyzing you might as well use something that better in every case you arent standing in a laser

raven robin
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what

tender perch
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I guess its better than cat shields for the most part

elder lodge
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Youre assuming constant damage incoming with a frame that cant utilize energy to shields well to make catalyzing worth it. Thats not a playstyle people should be recommending imo

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-# but sometimes harder for less benefit is fun

tender perch
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Its not an assumption though, this game is a hoard shooter

elder lodge
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I want sp arbitrations because spawns are too low

tender perch
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You're constantly gonna be taking damage. And the last thing you want is to he caught with your pants down and no shields, nor without a way to instantly replenish your shields

raven robin
elder lodge
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Im ngl

If youre constantly taking damage thats a wild situation. In the game where most of the characters nuke ops as a thing

tender perch
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What?😭

elder lodge
raven robin
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???

elder lodge
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Are you assuming for the sake of the arguement for catalyzing shields that this is levelcap?

tender perch
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Bro are we playing the same game? This is WARFRAME - even Saryn will be taking damage most of the time because once you kill a hoard, guess what, THERE'S ANOTHER HOARD

raven robin
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who was mentioning lvl cap

twin canopy
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hi!

tender perch
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Forget level cap, base SP is gonna be bombarding you

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I am a level cap player. I do level cap for FUN, you definitely better have a way to fully max out your shields or else you're dead

elder lodge
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Just throwing it out because thats the only reapy time you wouldnt be nuking everything as fast or faster than they are shooting you

Im finished with all of sp and carry people through it so my clan can have boosted drop rates. Wtf are talking about

lyric lotus
tender perch
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Buddy, you dont need to lvl cap to know thats its better to fully replenish your shields over patiently waiting for it to regen while you kick rocks

elder lodge
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The only time i ever go down is when im afk and literally just taking it, or if an arbi drone covers a mutalyst osprey at such a time that im in lala land and mistakes are made

lyric lotus
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speaking of arbi, haven't done that thing in a while...might do it tonight Baro

elder lodge
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Full shields are preferable, yes, but not necessary to gate and definitely not necessary to outperform catalyzing

raven robin
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again

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not every frame is replenishing 300 shields whenever they want

tender perch
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That aint how it works, bro

raven robin
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catalyzing allows you to run high eff and still get same 1.33 timer

tender perch
elder lodge
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Jesus christ

tender perch
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Dont "Jesus Christ" bro, you're just wrong 😭

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Idk what else to say

elder lodge
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Idk how to help people that want to prove they are right by playing in ways that are just less effective. If you want to make catalyzing work, you can play that way

frail heath
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can we all just stop arguing over a couple mods?

gritty dirge
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Alternative: play Octavia and dance all mission

tender perch
lyric lotus
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Baro fellow tennos, play as you'd like, there is nothing wrong or right about anything in wf.

raven robin
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on general ur getting the 230% conversion with brief respite and 2 augurs, meaning you needa gate with an ability that costs +100 energy

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or just run cata and get 1.33 always

tender perch
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Exactly

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But remember, this guy doesn't shield gate 😭
He can't understand that

elder lodge
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Enjoy playong cascades for over an hour where thats useful

lyric lotus
tender perch
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Its useful base SP wym

raven robin
elder lodge
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Base sp is not actually hard tho

lyric lotus
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and level cap is not an official gameplay mode.

tender perch
lyric lotus
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we just do it cause we get bored

raven robin
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let the record show me nor @tender perch never mentioned lvl cap
that was xalted

elder lodge
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I have an mr8 with barely any mods through sp, easily survivable if you dont stand around. I have an mr0 thats gone through netracells, that was sweaty, maybe cat shields wouldve helped the one time i went down.

Yall act like your surrounded by heavy gunners

tender perch
lyric lotus
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lets not...get carried away with words fellas.

elder lodge
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It is to say that that is the expectation of level of gameplay you have for your situations. Base sp is generally soloable for first time sp players if they have an incarnon or nataruk regardles sof frame.

tender perch
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And again, not every frame is doing that

elder lodge
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Ive cleared the sp starchart twice

lyric lotus
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Baro....

tender perch
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That...has nothing to do with the conversation

elder lodge
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You get that yes? Im waiting on de to drop vey hek from mr5 req to do it a thrid time at mr0

lyric lotus
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imma go make some tea..

tender perch
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Yeah this is going nowhere

raven robin
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ur just saying random shit

elder lodge
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Gfdi

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Play the game im done with yall

raven robin
tender perch
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Lmaoo

lyric lotus
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well..been playing since my kid was 1, now she's 7 IvaraSippy

frail heath
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GUYS! stop arguing over a build and a game

elder lodge
raven robin
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there are clear discernable reasons to use catalyzing over primed redirection, and vice versa

tender perch
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Fr

frail heath
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is anyone listening?

raven robin
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saying one is "better" than the other is just ur own biases clouding ur judgement

lyric lotus
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sigh!

elder lodge
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Im just not reaponding

raven robin
lyric lotus
raven robin
lyric lotus
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gosh how many crispy is in this server

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can't even find the one i am lookin for

elder lodge
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What the

queen ridge
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Lol

frail heath
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Stop acting like siblings and accualy just have fun on the game, no matter what you like to use as a build, it a build

elder lodge
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Ikr, just hurts when people recommend subpar stuff on the official disc

lyric lotus
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except limbo in any squad, then we have real sibling rivalry.

livid mist
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Yeah... But also at the end of the day, the best build is the one that feels most comfortable and effective to you

elder lodge
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^

lyric lotus
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like crispy trying to make his mesa do melee (i made that up, but given how he is obseesed with melees, he might one day)

elder lodge
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Like apparently spamming a 25 energy ability with bonus effeciency at hordes lol

frail heath
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so, are you done arguing?

elder lodge
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No mom, i want to argue more

lyric lotus
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who gonna be the next heirloom frame?

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loki? 😐

elder lodge
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I heard them say vauban

frail heath
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sighs

tender perch
elder lodge
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But im sus

livid mist
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Was at tennocon

elder lodge
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Eh

tender perch
lyric lotus
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didn't notice it was confirmed in tennocon 😐

elder lodge
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Banshee still look like and play like ahh