gameplay-discussion

[tender perch]

Yeah, I feel like you can get around pretty quickly if you just practice it

[leaden obsidian]

You can

[exotic narwhal]

So i wonder. Why necramechs in the entrati labs don't drop the matrix? They are the same type of mecha so why not?

[ashen hedge]

Gameplay reasons

They drop other things instead

[keen silo]

Been using Temple, they’re so much fun

[void crescent]

Not sure if anyone else is experiencing this, but the mission complete screen is showing progress for weapons not used. I. Currently leveling coda weapons, and they weren't used in the new activity, which I've been running lately

[lofty garden]

were they equipped? were you solo or in a squad?

[fierce lynx]

they finally did it

you can mod your exalted weapon in navigation now

[void crescent]

Not equipped in activity

[bright skiff]

nourish vs roar on kullervo, which is better?

[pearl parcel]

Nourish I think

[bright skiff]

thanks!

[fathom cipher]

roar for dmg ngl, but nourish for energy and viral. both are insane on kullervo so pick ur poison

[bright skiff]

okay imma go for roar

[leaden obsidian]

Damage best

[fathom cipher]

roar is nice cuz u dont have to recast as much since the duration is high on roar

and the dmg scaling is wonderful

if need be we can call in the kullervo person

[leaden obsidian]

Who would that be

[fathom cipher]

chirpyy

[leaden obsidian]

I thought chirpy was rhino

[fathom cipher]

she love kullervo

[leaden obsidian]

chirp is actually revenant

[fathom cipher]

pink rhino, kullervo, and nezha

revenant is dryzz

im mirage

[leaden obsidian]

Nu uh, chirp is rev

[fathom cipher]

i thought chirp is anti rev

[leaden obsidian]

(The joke is chirp used to main rev)

[fathom cipher]

@strong field hi please state your stance and please correct us if we are wrong

[fathom cipher]

re: this

[pearl parcel]

hey big, remember Arthur, the musket skeleton

[leaden obsidian]

Yeah

[rain loom]

hey i fell like i can have duviri plants with this myabe im crazy ?

[pearl parcel]

what if all his offense magic was flavored so that he himself never actually does anything

[leaden obsidian]

Idk

[pearl parcel]

he casts toll the dead? the target is immediately clocked by a coconut
he casts sacred flame? the flames from a nearby lantern flare up and jump at the target, burning them

[wise lagoon]

what roles can octavia play?

like support, weapon platform, nuker, tank etc

[leaden obsidian]

Afker

[river fern]

The only still consistent CC in game. Her abilities are the only thing that affect enemies even under overguard. (also her damage numbers are sky-high too).

[fathom cipher]

she can crowd control and do good dmg all while being afk. infinite dmg scaling and really good survivability (invis). she can buff her teammates dmg with her 4 as well (also with 3 but its a lil annoying for ur teammates to get the buff)

[wise lagoon]

does she need her augments?

[uneven void]

Pretty much anything. Just find a corner to hide to avoid even a splinter. And then do about 12 milion air squats to stay invisible.

[wise lagoon]

the invis duration stacks?

[uneven void]

It refreshes.

[wise lagoon]

o

cant be afk and continue squatting tho

[uneven void]

True, but its pretty close.

[fathom cipher]

u can afk for like 50 second intervals so its pretty afk

[wise lagoon]

i see

[fathom cipher]

just spam crouch when needed to refresh invis

and let her mallet do all the dmg

[wise lagoon]

what if you like somehow find a way to connect warframe and ur body, u can be in the kitchen doing squats for afk octavia things

[storm vapor]

for the operation, are the signa rewards based on clan progress or community progress?

[vale prism]

is steelpath best for farming oraxia ?

[pearl parcel]

id say it doesnt really matter, it is technically better but its also a lot more aggravating and time consuming if you dont have a frame thats in the rotation

[keen silo]

Just stick to normal so you don’t give yourself a headache

[vale prism]

how long non-sp average?

[pearl parcel]

dunno, like 20 minutes?

[vale prism]

im averaging around 20-25mins on SP

[pearl parcel]

a lot of the time spent is waiting around for stuff to actually happen

[leaden obsidian]

15-20 minutes

[misty cosmos]

Some poor soul just tried selling me primed ammo stock for 60p 😭

[pearl parcel]

does prime ammo stock even exist?

[leaden obsidian]

It does

[pearl parcel]

what's the point? just use ammo converters

[leaden obsidian]

Idk

[misty cosmos]

I wanna get 8 shots on my kuva Hek, so I can shoot 2 alt fires before reloading

Also 4 shots is way too limiting

[pearl parcel]

ok but ammo stock only increases reserve ammo

[misty cosmos]

The mod says magazine capacity

Anyways, that all being said, does anybody happen to have a max rank primed ammo stock that they’re not using?

[pearl parcel]

if you can get an unranked one i can probably max it for you if you want

[fathom cipher]

possible but idk where that falls under DE rules

[wise lagoon]

im not a scientist just a what if scenario

[fathom cipher]

yeah me neither im no scientist

[wise lagoon]

that would make us operator of the operator

[weak nexus]

Anybody else talk with Kullervo's jailer and suddenly can't do anything? Like all the screen shows is him from the first person view, with no options, and incapable of using Chat functions?

[thin igloo]

What is best way to get relics??

[weak nexus]

Try running Excavations

[thin igloo]

What is it? I just instaled it today after a long time

[weak nexus]

Excavations are when you protect and keep-powered orbitally dropped drills.

[thin igloo]

Oooh okay and in what planet should i do it and is it good to use prime khora?

[weak nexus]

Most planets have one Excavation mission, and any frame is viable for them.

[dusky osprey]

Hello is there someone in here that plays on switch

[unique tartan]

Why is it I get a Sister of Parvos with a metal looking design she always has the folksy voice

[dusky osprey]

??

[gusty ember]

'Ello there.

[dusky osprey]

Hi I need help with a mastery rank test I’ve tried 6 times and keep failing even tried the practice and failed that

[lofty garden]

there should no longer be any practice

which test?

[dusky osprey]

Mastery rank 6

[lofty garden]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Mastery_Rank#Rank_6_

Has some tips there

[vale crater]

hello tennos

[dusky osprey]

I keep failing the test tho

[high sparrow]

heya

[leaden obsidian]

Get better then

[lofty garden]

gun with a larger magazine size, shoot a single bullet at a time

soma has a big clip

[keen torrent]

howdy; doing new server checklist, don't mind me

[dusky osprey]

That’s rude

[leaden obsidian]

I mean, it’s what you gotta do to pass the mr test

[dusky osprey]

Ok….

[solar pewter]

[pearl parcel]

thats true

you want to pass? get better, get more kit, git gud

[thorn plank]

has anyone else tried valkyr rip line with range mods? in my experience, it barely pulls enemies halfway, could it be lag?

[restive warren]

Pssssssst Big

[restive warren]

"Skill issue" is rude, telling people to get better isn't.

[pearl parcel]

hey pix

that new frame, oryx, is super fun

[restive warren]

Yeah talking about her I was about to ask Big and Crispy fashion for her

[pearl parcel]

i made a fashion but im colorblind so idk if you'll like it

[restive warren]

Not sure if Crisp has her yet tho

[restive warren]

Share :O

[pearl parcel]

black and gold, and a little red, he's awesome looking

the spider legs are nice with gold accents cause the actual piercing bits are gold, it makes a clinking noise as i stroll around impaling people

[silver crater]

Am I the only one who's kinda disappointed in the gemini skins as a whole? (they look phenomenal that's not what I'm on about) but when I switch forms to spoiler here form why not allow the warframe/gemini to fight alongside like Arthur/Excal Umbra does?

[pearl parcel]

balance reasons, thats umbra's thing

[quasi sleet]

Sure, remove Umbra's whole gimmick then.

[pearl parcel]

in fact that's literally the only reason to use umbra

[restive warren]

So for context on what sleepy said...

[silver crater]

It just legitimately briefs as 'lazy' when the protos are literally alive and not actual golems like everything else

[restive warren]

They once "offered" or talked about making warframe fight with you, like installing a thing you'd be able to fight "With your warframe. <- That was prior to Protoframe, then after talking together as dev team they came with the finality of "Well it's Umbra's thing. So they confirmed changing their mind.

[restive warren]

It's not because you don't get what you want that it makes something lazy.

[pearl parcel]

for one, please avoid pinging me, bright colors dont help the perpetual headache, and for two, its a game about space wizard robots murdering an infection, hypercapitalists, and clones, you think logic matters

[restive warren]

Like I just mentioned, they talked about the prospect in the past.

But all and all decided against it because then the Uniqueness of Umbra would be POOFED.

Rendered as "just another one"

Not to say I wasn't myself slightly disappointed, but I get where they are coming from.

[quasi sleet]

If you REALLY want a proto following you, rig up a powerful specter.

[restive warren]

I guess it'd be nice if we could have a specter yeah

[pearl parcel]

also, if htey let the proto's follow you that'd be pay to win

[restive warren]

Sorry nothing I say is good news, but it was something discussed in the past so I figured I'd bring it up because you were probably unaware.

[silver crater]

Lol that's fine. And wouldn't want to actually 'discredit' Excal but they should at least have an insert chip here where the protos fight alongside you. And I genuinely cant even see it as a pay to win thing. You get a cool skin and a special interaction with the character.

[pearl parcel]

you have plenty of good news, just not for this guy

[restive warren]

I mean they sorta play "with" you in Hex bounties if I remember right, ye?

Unsure for ETA as I haven't done it.

[pearl parcel]

you cant see a specific skin that costs several hundred platinums having a special and game altering effect as pay to win? are ye blind or somethin?

[restive warren]

To be fair, I'm not sure it would ever be "truly" p2w unless proto were cash only and not plat.

[quasi sleet]

If they decide to make a unique Specter or follower gear item for em, sure. They're not gonna make it an ability and nullify Umbra entirely.

[restive warren]

I guess it depends from what angle you're looking at it

[pearl parcel]

the point stands, you cna at least make everything else that you cna use plat to get faster, you cant make a proto skin, you cna only buy them

[silver crater]

Doesn't change lvl cap gameplay..... So no it's not

[restive warren]

Maybe if Tencent owned a bigger part of Warframe we'd need to be concerned about that being a thing, but for now we safe.

[pearl parcel]

im not dealing with this idiot anymore, i make ONE request and he's too dumb to do it

[pearl parcel]

tencent is still around?

[restive warren]

Sorta

[strong field]

Jus woke up like fr

[restive warren]

Chirp do you has Oraxia

[strong field]

I do not has oraxia yet

[restive warren]

🥹

I hope soon tm, so you can show fashion, I need inspiration 😭

[strong field]

Okay if it's about revenant, I agree he's very useful for players who are just starting out and learning how the game works. But if you already have torid inc, furis inc, etc you gotta change warframes atp man. And yes I used to main him and only him, he's still my top 1 most used, sitting at 26% or smth. I've been wanting to change that for a long time.

[pearl parcel]

whats your opinion on this oryx

[strong field]

I don't hate the frame nearly as much as I used to but I do have a lot more fun from others that have similar survivability capabilities instead

[strong field]

🫡

[restive warren]

The cape strippes are trippy (In a good way)

[lyric lotus]

Tencent be owning DE since 2000? unless there is a grave requirement for them to be involved in DE's leadership or revenue don't meet the expectation tencent wont bother what DE or any other devs they owned do

[restive warren]

They own a part, not fully

[pearl parcel]

thats just the cape, i didnt do that

[lyric lotus]

Majority of it to call a shot.

[restive warren]

Do they now?

[lyric lotus]

that's what i know, but can be false

[restive warren]

Seems to be like it, weird

[lyric lotus]

but, as far as the record goes with tencent owning companies they don't really put there nose into devs business

[restive warren]

Maybe Tencent calmed down then

To be fair it's hard to outdo stupid in the way EA does

[lyric lotus]

yet EA making most of the money

[restive warren]

To be fair, there isn't many other 'Sims' games and I think they have a lot of Sports games

[lyric lotus]

thats what their major money maker machine is.

[restive warren]

Excuse their 400 dlcs

💀 Sims 3 ran like a bag of costco sized [Censored] if you owned all dlcs

[lyric lotus]

Sports games, like fifa, making the same game since it's first edition and selling it every year like routine work

[leaden obsidian]

Might farm up plat and buy a sobek riv

[restive warren]

Well I guess I'mma need to start give Tencent some slack from now on

[restive warren]

Pssssssssst Oraxia fashion?

[lyric lotus]

i stopped worrying about tencent owning indie devs

[lyric lotus]

my oraxia is still cooking in foundry

[leaden obsidian]

Imma go try to buy a sobek riv

[restive warren]

Soon, very soon

[lyric lotus]

in mike tyson's voice: thoon vely thoon

m kinda liking the new incarnon heavy scythe

[leaden obsidian]

I haven’t gotten it

[lyric lotus]

things go wild when paried with kullervo

[leaden obsidian]

Saw the 150 rune marrow cost and didn’t wanna sign my life away into the circuit

[lyric lotus]

i have grinded duviri enough that i can go for few years of update if anything required from duviri lol

[fathom cipher]

same story with me

[restive warren]

I like jumping spider but that's p much it

Nothing with poison

[lyric lotus]

[strong field]

Man lowk kullervo might become my next favorite now that he has the augment

No spamming 2 every damn 2 seconds

[fathom cipher]

miraj

[lyric lotus]

at least not going to see wukongs being running around like headless chickens for a while

[fathom cipher]

im just finishing my cosplay and props for animexpo rn lol

[strong field]

whatchu doin there

[fathom cipher]

just goin

[lyric lotus]

cosplaying darvo

[strong field]

Sell a bunch of trash too

[restive warren]

Gotta stay in character

[lyric lotus]

maybe.,...

[restive warren]

[fading kite]

maybe have a guy as clem

[pearl parcel]

i gotta say, i really like the poison stuff

[lyric lotus]

buy the flame sowrd only for 300P after 50% discount

[strong field]

Oh wait speaking of, is mercy's kiss the subsume?

[fathom cipher]

seriously?

[restive warren]

erh... Good question, I haven't checked

I forgor

[pearl parcel]

ive smelted SP enemies just by poisoning them with the spray ability

[fathom cipher]

that would be too insane no?

[strong field]

That thing looks like it one shot things

[lyric lotus]

Webbed Embrace is subsumed

[pearl parcel]

although because of the poison damager weapons get in his fourth, you really want a rapid fire weapon, which feels wrong for an assassin frame

[fathom cipher]

instakills anything at 50% hp

[strong field]

Oh. Well that's a bummer

[fathom cipher]

basically enemies open for mercy kill

[strong field]

So you can't increase the threshold? It's stuck at 50?

[lyric lotus]

two things i am liking in this update, the new scyth and valk.

[lost storm]

Is Dragon Nikana MR fodder or should I keep it?

[restive warren]

Free webbage cocoons for everyone

[pearl parcel]

monch

[fathom cipher]

maybe test with like sentient wrath maybe? idk

[strong field]

I'd say mr fodder. Syam and nikana prime should be better

[lost storm]

Okay. Thanks.

[strong field]

It also has its own riven family... For some reason

[lyric lotus]

i only kept nikana prime rest just dump

[strong field]

Now the problem is getting her first

I haven't even touched on isleweaver

[fathom cipher]

yeah i aint gettin oraxia for a while

[fathom cipher]

i did one duviri run on update day now ive been swamped busy

[lyric lotus]

you need to get your credit game going

[fathom cipher]

im just spraypainting rn

[strong field]

Im on <100k cred lmaoooooo

[fathom cipher]

same here vro 🤝

[lyric lotus]

make sure...using a mask.

[strong field]

Actually broke after what feels like ages

[fathom cipher]

im in the great outdoors with awesome ventilation included

[restive warren]

I forgot to check the community progress before loggin' off

[fathom cipher]

welcome to my norm

[restive warren]

⚰️

[strong field]

🛌

[restive warren]

Future me problem!

[lyric lotus]

dosen't matter where you are, it will go into your nose when you breath

[fathom cipher]

yes twin

[fathom cipher]

does a shirt count

[strong field]

I spent a lot upgrading probably 6-7 mods to max to sell, and yesterday I just upgraded on prime smite murmur.

[lyric lotus]

anything that could prevent you to inhale particles count

[strong field]

So DE when will we get prime narmer

[lyric lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/what-what-the-what-the-hell-wtf-gif-8562994133044611418

[strong field]

[lyric lotus]

whatu cookin

[lyric lotus]

if you have cotton t-shirt, make it a pseudo mask

[fathom cipher]

awesome thats what im doin

[lyric lotus]

but don't just go leroy jenkins with such stuff.

[fathom cipher]

oh yeah injury update of the day i slammed my head into a tree

[strong field]

They really ought to just release prime mods for ever y element for every weapon type. I need my prime shocking touch smh my head

[fathom cipher]

i should grind the update soon cuz i want me arcanes

[strong field]

We beefin with trees in 2025? Sounds about right

[ashen hedge]

We have magnetic and radiation

[lyric lotus]

why am i not surprised anymore with your shenenigans which you don't even intend to do in the first place?

[ashen hedge]

Corro mod class in 2026

And then viral mod 2028

[strong field]

I hope so

[fathom cipher]

theres a nice lump on the back of my head rn

[ashen hedge]

Reality: Gas mod class 202Now

[strong field]

Eh doesn't matter. More statuses for my diriga

[lyric lotus]

ohh...it's on the back did the tree just saw you passing it and swing a branch on your way?

[fathom cipher]

i stood up and the tree was above me

[strong field]

Oh

[lyric lotus]

typical.

with all these recorded incidents that been goin on with you from toe to head, you need some protections bruv

[ashen hedge]

Dirigs prime next relics

[sudden tendon]

Chop it down

[leaden obsidian]

Doin nightwaves instead cause of the shotgun riv

[fathom cipher]

not my house

[sudden tendon]

Chop it down

[restive warren]

I would offer bubble wrap for Crispy but I feel they might just spend more time poppin' the bubble

[fathom cipher]

i will

[restive warren]

XD

[lyric lotus]

37 more min to reset

thinking how to kill 37 min, might go make some smoothie but it's 5:30 am :/

[amber briar]

Oof

[lost storm]

Is Tysis MR fodder?

[lyric lotus]

kinda.

[leaden swift]

quick question, do caliban summons count to calendar missions again or is it not fixed yet

[maiden granite]

How the HECK did you manage that?

[pearl parcel]

hey luna, i made an oryx fasion

[maiden granite]

Show

[maiden granite]

Not bad

Red is her color

[pearl parcel]

gold accents look nice, it makes the spider claws on him actually gold and go clink with each step

[leaden obsidian]

Luna

[maiden granite]

Hi kiddo! What’s up?

Ohhh the profile pic changed!

V nice

[leaden obsidian]

Do you have a sobek riv

[pearl parcel]

also i got the prob cernos, i do not like it

[leaden obsidian]

Yeah changed it to my oraxia fashion in the boy band stage captura

[maiden granite]

Lemme check

Not unrolled. I have a couple veiled rivs. But i think that’s a shotgun right?

[pearl parcel]

i have one, but it's reserved for a friend

[leaden obsidian]

It is

[maiden granite]

I have one veiled shotgun riven mod. Im not online at moment though, making dinner

[pearl parcel]

what're ye havin?

[leaden obsidian]

Alr, I’m farming nightwave stuff to get the shotgun riv from there

[maiden granite]

My hubbs caught a ton of bluegill so we’re havin fish fry and spuds

[pearl parcel]

sehr gute

[maiden granite]

Ja

[pearl parcel]

luna, that is russian

[solar pewter]

That's what I'm working on lmao

[pearl parcel]

ja is yes in german

[maiden granite]

Hehe

[leaden obsidian]

Ha

[maiden granite]

Here I’ll change it

[pearl parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-out-liberty-prime-communism-explosion-gif-12000227

[solar pewter]

Right lmao

[maiden granite]

That is beautiful

[lyric lotus]

i forgor i had this skin for her lol

[leaden obsidian]

I’m doing syndicate missions then gonna crack 4 relics

[maiden granite]

She has such good skins

[pearl parcel]

im probably gonna play slime rancher, zoe says theres an island with plant slimes

[solar pewter]

It's reseting super soon

[maiden granite]

Slime rancher? That sounds adorable

[lyric lotus]

this one i like most on her

[pearl parcel]

i get to imprison slimes, steal their loot, and make obscene amounts of cash

[maiden granite]

Lol not adorable sleepy 😂

[maiden granite]

Oooooo i do like that too

[pearl parcel]

what did oyu expect me to do, i industrialize every thing i touch

there's money to be made and only one sleepy to make it on the Far, Far Ranch

[maiden granite]

This is true

How silly of me

[leaden obsidian]

3 or 4 done

[pearl parcel]

hey luna, do you have tabletop simulator

[leaden obsidian]

3 done

[maiden granite]

Negatory

I feel like i should get it though

[pearl parcel]

if you do, do you want to play wh40k 10e

[maiden granite]

Maybe. But i would have to buy the game separate right?

[pearl parcel]

no, mods

there are workshop mods that add entire catalogues of warhammer pieces, and you can find PDFs of the rules and codices online

[maiden granite]

Oh

Ok

I’ll have to look at some point.

[leaden obsidian]

4

[lyric lotus]

m waiting for the day when Death stranding 2 will come to pc :p

[leaden obsidian]

Last one

Imma wait till weekly

Free 7k nightwave for exchanging some slivers

[fathom cipher]

was spray painting for my animexpo props and my cousins trees hang super super low so when i stood up i slammed the back of my head into the tree branch and the branch had a pointy stub

[placid turtle]

Bro everything in this Nightwave is free

So easy

[fathom cipher]

fr

[lavish glacier]

Can someone check the surviving drops?

[placid turtle]

Necramech guardians are just slightly tedious and hard if you haven't done them

[placid turtle]

Survival drops? For which mission? Usually they have their own drop tables. What're you trying to get?

[lavish glacier]

Durviri I meant

My bad

[leaden obsidian]

Off to cipher a shotgun riven I got

[placid turtle]

Ah for Isleweaver? It's like 7.6% for each item I think

[placid turtle]

Dominus Aureus are awarded in quantities of 18-22 (22-26 on The Steel Path) from the Isleweaver game mode.

[strong field]

Is thalys good

[maiden granite]

Omg crispy. Do you have a gash or just the bump?

[fathom cipher]

sharp bump

i slammed my toenail on the way out of their house tho and its pretty bad rn

[maiden granite]

crispy!

Kath needs to get that bubble wrap!

[leaden obsidian]

I’m 1 essence off a cipher

[fathom cipher]

im sitting on like 500 essence rn

[fathom cipher]

i think ill be needing more than that. just wrap me up in a mattress atp 😭

[leaden obsidian]

I’m hitting an exterm fissure

[fathom cipher]

hit a lil excursion

[maiden granite]

Lol aight

[leaden obsidian]

Got my essence

Convectrix

[tired vortex]

frost sytems blueprint ain't dropping, I keep getting chassis blueprints

ok it dropped

6 frost chassis blueprints later

[leaden obsidian]

I got such an easy challenge

Bubonico riv

[strong field]

Giv

[leaden obsidian]

Do you have a sobek riv

[strong field]

No

[leaden obsidian]

Sad

[deep cosmos]

should i mod the thalys for crit or status chance?

[leaden obsidian]

Is this guy high on somethin

[tender perch]

Wassup chat

[leaden obsidian]

Farming plat

[tender perch]

Definitely not worth 100 plat. Sobek riven isnt 100 plat at base

Cause none of those stats are good 😭

[deep cosmos]

that is one of the best rivens ive seen in my life, im surprised its not worth at least 3000+ plat

[lilac cloud]

chat. im tired of pretending. im just gonna say it. the Valkyr rework is good. with her new passive, she gets functionally the same immortality as old Valkyr, you just have to actually play the video game for it, and you do a ton more damage with it. her 1 and 3 have great synergy with each other, grouping enemies together and giving them damage vulnerability, while also slowing them to a crawl. her 2 is well, its warcry, and her 4 does ludicrous ammounts of damage still

[tender perch]

You're late. Everyone knew it was good a few hours after the update.

[lilac cloud]

i see too many people call it bad

[deep cosmos]

i dont play valkyr so i didnt know she got a rework

[tender perch]

I was a bit worried about her level cap viability but no, she's just great

[lilac cloud]

i had someone leave a 1999 mission because i was playing Valkyr. how do i know that's why? cuz they said it in chat

[lilac cloud]

yeah i love her sm

[unique tartan]

The berserker frame is more berserker

[tender perch]

She can health tanking up to around 3k and after that, her passive is basically shield gating but your economy is damage instead of energy.

[lilac cloud]

personally im gonna stay with my gal citrine tho. i love my gemstone gal

[tender perch]

My Caliban is actually super comfy now too, thanks to the new augment

Whoops didn't mean to reply

[lilac cloud]

i love oraxias new melee for it too (if I'm not using exalted claws) cuz the explosions give u charge for the passive, and also you can giga buff range on it so u can just infinitely wipe rooms with it without even using melee influence

[tender perch]

Yeah, if you're playing Valkyr right, your rage meter should be maxed before your invincibility is even over

So basically health gating

[lilac cloud]

i love having 4 attack speed on her claws without warcry

[ebon orbit]

Is the Attica good?

[tender perch]

Not really

[lilac cloud]

actually

[tender perch]

But that shouldn't stop you

Use what you want

[lilac cloud]

i tried a funny build for it a little bit ago

[ebon orbit]

I'm looking for something good to upgrade my weapons, I'm still using the boltor and the damage isn't great

[tender perch]

Try the Strun. Relatively easy to get and its damage is nice

[lilac cloud]

with primary acuity, deadhead, and spectral serration, along with crit delay, viral, and hunmu, i was clearing eximus units in sp in maybe two shots

[ebon orbit]

Ok thanks

[lilac cloud]

what MR are you?

[ebon orbit]

I'm MR6, I'm pretty new to the game

[lilac cloud]

nah that's all good! once you get to MR 8, i recommend a primary called the Fulmin. it's got two firing modes, a shotgun-esque burst and an AR, it has infinite ammo with a battery charging mechanic, and it has base electric damage so you can mod for either corrosive or radiation with just a single mod, making it great for diverse builds

[ebon orbit]

Ok I'll get it then, thank you

[lilac cloud]

np man

[leaden obsidian]

150p for this

[lilac cloud]

💀

[leaden obsidian]

Wfm isn’t much better, 145 for a trash roll too

Finally buyin one

[fringe canopy]

Hey

[leaden obsidian]

Hi

[lusty ivy]

Am i extra unlucky or does chroma + Retriever does not work anymore in 1999 cache

[leaden obsidian]

Nvm still tryin to buy one

[pearl parcel]

if i can get one, i'll sell it to you, or trade

[leaden obsidian]

Just bought one

No roll I want, sad

[wispy epoch]

What are the good incarnons for this week?

[storm vapor]

ive gotten two magnetic ephemera liches in a row 😭

[leaden obsidian]

Oof

[fathom cipher]

strun is a w acolyte killer

[tender perch]

Probably my favorite weapon rn. Got a nice riven with it and all

Works great with Caliban

[fathom cipher]

ill hit my weekly login in a bit. first time logging in since update day 😔

i gotta experiment with hydroid still smh. cant believe DE lets his shields break while hes invuln

[tender perch]

Thats a thing?

[fathom cipher]

yeah lmao

[tender perch]

Same issue Excal had with Slash Dash

[fathom cipher]

exactly

[tender perch]

Literal ass

[placid turtle]

You are unlucky, I did one an hour and a half ago, it worked fine for me-- both Chroma and the Retriever procced

[tender perch]

Conculysts are useless now. Ortholysts out damage it now lol

And I have more than enough range for Fusion Strike

[fathom cipher]

hydroid is so strong and his wave WOULD be prolly one of the best abilities in the game if it didnt let ur shields be broken in his wave. cuz with the augment u get like 18s of status immunity too and its an instant cast ability. too bad ur shields can break while hes a WAVE. water.

[tender perch]

Hopefully it gets looked at and fixed, cause its legit a free Rolling Guard so it saves you a mod slot while also being a grouping ability. Like wtf its so good 😭

[fathom cipher]

EXACTLY its one of my fav abilities still but the fact it has the same issue as slash dash while being even more ridiculous. LIKE HES WATER HOW CAN HE GET HIT 😭😭😭

[leaden obsidian]

Back to riven rolling

[lusty ivy]

I see

[tender perch]

What even is Hydroid's identity? He's a weapons platform dps?

Cause he doesn't do ability damage nor does he have many synergistic properties

[fathom cipher]

loot frame usually but hes a strong weapons platform

[lusty ivy]

This

[fathom cipher]

i had some today

[tender perch]

Never had curry

[fathom cipher]

i had katsu curry today very yum

[leaden obsidian]

Best riv

Just missing ms

[fathom cipher]

more zaw riv rolling for me this week. got the kuva and cipher from teshin. yum

dropped to 400 sp essence :(

[tender perch]

No riven rolling for me for a good while, I went all in on Kuva for a few rivens. Got nothing good

Im talking hundreds of thousands of Kuva

[leaden obsidian]

I should find food

[fathom cipher]

yipee i hit 200 rolls on my zaw riv

[placid turtle]

Are you using the right retriever mod btw? You might have the "18% double loot" one instead of "18% double credits" or "13% double loot and credits"

[lusty ivy]

I forgot that there is 18% ones

[pearl parcel]

hey ark, i have a bunch of chickens to dispose of, should i give them to the tabbies, the hunters, or Benson

[tender perch]

I feel like doing a level cap tier list

[placid turtle]

I rolled a 6-sided die and it landed on 5, so probably the third choice

[pearl parcel]

the incinerator it is then

[tacit ridge]

Do you guys keep weapons that aren't "meta" just cause you like them but technically they "suck" ?

[pure gulch]

I personally keep every weapon that isn’t overly simple to reobtain or if I just feel like it regardless of how good or bad it might be

[lavish pebble]

I keep them to have them for modes with randomized gear.

[rigid sleet]

Now this is the duviri experience

[cold vale]

Is sevagoth a good warframe?

Im thinking about getting it

[leaden obsidian]

Yes

[tacit ridge]

Good? Maybe

Fun? Not exactly

[maiden granite]

He is very grind intensive

[fathom cipher]

and very spam intensive

personally i dont like him too much because im usually in a solo setting and sometimes managing his energy gets rough

[leaden obsidian]

Oraxia and yareli are the frames I currently like

[fathom cipher]

me its mirage, yareli, nova, volt, nezha, rhino, and hydroid. its a lot but id say most used are mirage, yareli, nova, volt

i like a lot of other frames but the frames i use the most and have most invested in are probably those frames

i should revise my rhino probably

my mirage, nova, yareli, and volt are pretty much optimized tho

i wouldve said zaw wisp as well but i took my shards off of her for yareli lol

[maiden granite]

I forgot to put parkour shards on my yareli

Dang it

[fathom cipher]

ive got 2 on her lmao

[tender perch]

Same, I only have a few frames truly optimized while others are just decently build

Caliban, Xaku, Rhino, Octavia, and Garuda are my frames

[sour igloo]

fastest way to upgrade the iztal

?

thats a question sorry

[fathom cipher]

me its probably just mirage, yareli, and nova that ive experimented the most with. ive got great stuff with volt and mag too tho

[jolly hazel]

why when like i hit level 5 while in the circuit and then leave im only level 3 or something

[maiden granite]

Archwing missions

[fathom cipher]

ur prolly thinking of stages. u can hit stage 5 in the circuit as in like the gamemodes/objectives uve cleared, but ur actual level for the circuit is less. both are displayed when you are playing circuit

[jolly hazel]

ah ok ty looking at the wrong thing then probs

[sour igloo]

i mean duh, but any specific?

[tender perch]

Welp, time to do ETA

Need those Omni Forma

[jolly hazel]

also is there a way to keep the same frames and weapons when exiting the circuit

[fathom cipher]

nah those are on a timer

[jolly hazel]

ty

[maiden granite]

I used to get so confused with this

[leaden obsidian]

[tired vortex]

now hydroid system blueprints won't drop, and vay hek is an annoying little shit

[lofty garden]

He is. Hitbox of a gnat.

Titania did ok, though.

[tired vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-ha-apollonair-warframe-gif-5224832

I keep getting neuroptics and chassis blueprints

[leaden obsidian]

Oraxia with sobek is just

[delicate seal]

Does anyone else get a delay on the event during the mission?

[tough gulch]

Uh guys is anyone expiriencing a bug with temple where rippers wail can be stacked WAY higher than it should be?

[leaden obsidian]

Works as intended, just get some duct tape next time(kidding probably already on DEs radar)

[tough gulch]

Ah ok

Bc its should not be possible to give you and your team almost 100000% heat damage

[leaden obsidian]

Here’s some ductape

[lofty garden]

Just stop for the day. Come back after reset when the seed changes

I spent 3 hrs trying to get a wisp part. Came back after reset and got two back to back

[pearl parcel]

hey luna, i have some chickens i need to get rid of, should i give them to the hunters, teh tabbies, the sabretooths, or Benson

[tired vortex]

after 5 hydroid chassis and 5 hydroid neuroptics I finally have the systems blueprint

time to farm argon

[maiden granite]

Sabretooths

[pearl parcel]

alright, to the walrus slimes they go

if you chose benson they'd have been incinerated to feed the fire slime, he eats ash

[leaden obsidian]

Sabreteefs

[chrome coral]

Is something screwed up with the EDA this week?

I just spent almost an hour straight smacking down on the fragmented tide and only got 3/4 of the way there

[leaden obsidian]

I think it’s having the same problem legacytes were having

[chrome coral]

And I mean almost an hour

Like actually 40 minutes in a single mission

[leaden obsidian]

Ik

I think a multiplier is affecting the fragmented tide twice, like one of them was legacytes

[lusty ivy]

Which valence is the best on It? I was thinking of getting sobek lately

[leaden obsidian]

I went with tox

Just to make viral

[sudden tendon]

God damn💀

Sounds like im not doing EDA this week

[hoary birch]

whats better for ETA Panthera prime or tigris prime?

[sudden tendon]

Both are shotguns right?

[hoary birch]

the panthera is a sawblade shooter thing?

[sudden tendon]

Prob that then

Shotguns have awful ad clear

[daring zenith]

bro why don't they just make the scuttlers like titania's razorflies and her 1 a pseudo exaulted for them to scale off of, like it's not that hard to make another titania but better.

[hoary birch]

i also have qorvex though, and i feel like that would be a better ad clear than the sawblade shooter.

[sudden tendon]

Oh if ur using qorvex for clearing stuff shotgun could help with beefier targets

[daring zenith]

would make her better without ruining anything.

[hoary birch]

that was my thought too, but you never know you know? lol

[sudden tendon]

Honestly qorvex isnt that great at killing so im not too sure

[worthy wedge]

is the armor gained form the unique trait Justice on the vaykor hek based off base armor or modded armor?

cause if its based off total/modded armor then might be a good weapon to run on an Ironclad charge rhino

[rocky breach]

additive to mods, so works off base values

it was mostly good for the aoe + heal, when it was actually relevent

[strong field]

Well that's just straight up depressing

[silk trellis]

When i remove oraxias 1 and then use her 4 can i still use the 1 i mean by using melee?

[lilac cloud]

MR 23?

[strong field]

Uh yeah I think

[tranquil kayak]

I wonder if DE would revisit New War some day. I believe it was meant to be a lot more expansive but the 2020 happened lmao

[subtle juniper]

My discoveries have been.. fruitful

[tranquil kayak]

Oh wait

Spoiler chat lmso

[rocky bough]

which primaries are doing good rn

I've been using kuva chakhurr for god knows how long

[summer temple]

A lot of them

[summer temple]

As far as I heard, no

[silk trellis]

Shi

[restive warren]

I wasn't sure if now the time for b-empty meme

What relics ate your traces?

[rocky bough]

can u suggest me some

[summer temple]

MR?

[molten coyote]

hi

[marsh cloak]

I personally think it's strange to leave after just one round of normal circuit pub

[tired vortex]

why must equinox's aspects take as long as the frame, at least make it a two day build time so it's reasonable. It's basically just a more complex component blueprint

[restive warren]

Ngl I don't understand why going in any endless for just one round.

I guess there's still people finishing their starchart but it's so awkward when they hosting and everyone else is there for the farm

[summer temple]

Rerolling loadouts

[marsh cloak]

I've gone through with a penta and kraken before, in the new operation on steel path. Which, I can understand doing that for steel path, but for normal I find it odd haha

[restive warren]

Can do that solo just fine honestly

[rocky breach]

if people go for 1 round in public to reroll loadouts, thats some dbag move

[restive warren]

You know pre-the update that brought the QoL of you being able to see whatchu got (because we didn't always had that) it made sense, you had to go in to know in the first place.... But now? Yeah I don't fully get it

Generally I stick around anyways and give a headsup

[rocky breach]

only need 1 semi decent frame/weapon, decrees can do the rest

even automodded as long as the weapon has decent mechanics is still fine after a handful of rounds

[summer temple]

They reroll in normal and then play SP

[summer temple]

If their gear is bad enough, I understand doing pubs

[rocky breach]

if you're just doing 1 round to reroll, you can just do it in operator on normal

[restive warren]

You'd need beyond bad and the star aligning just wrong

[rocky breach]

pew pew those homing discs

[summer temple]

If they're brand new, I doubt that

[rocky breach]

if theyre that new/undergeared even their best frames prob wont help at that point

so them screwing over 3 others is an even worse move

nothing wrong with letting other people carry, just contribute by playing the objectives, gather stuff for excav/alchemy/flood

[restive warren]

I can confirm even with terrible loadout default in normal you can do it just fine solo.

It was unpleasant.

But doable

[summer temple]

If you need a 4th member to play, you're screwed either way

[restive warren]

I don't mind much when they ain't host, but when they are..? It's partly disruptive

[summer temple]

Host migration can be annoying, fair

[restive warren]

I feel like the system to prioritize who's gonna be host should be changed. I get it's to give a chance for those with lower quality internet, but what's the point if their account is flagged as not sticking around in mission long?

[rocky breach]

cant tell if youre devils advocating

if as you say they're bad enough geared/new enough that they need to do it public to reroll, theres a chance the other 3 are also bad geared and and probably need the help of any other warm body, so yes 3 wanting 4 is a thing.

it also happens that the people who go 1 to reroll could be host which could completely screw over the other 3 as well

[restive warren]

Hmm...

[summer temple]

1 wanting company is way more common than 3 needing a 4th
But sure

[restive warren]

I wonder if DE would be open to the idea to have 1 charge a day that you can "choose" one thing to bring in?

[rocky breach]

its just being selfish/main char silliness.
its the same vibe as the people who do netracells public but will be off killing things 400m away then mouth off at the group telling them to play solo cos they can play how they want

[restive warren]

It's bad etiquette for sure

[rocky breach]

its like limbo players, its prob not intentionally done, but it can be detrimental regardless

[restive warren]

I don't think people actively try to be mean or selfish but def not thinking it through or not knowing better (Prob the latter if they new)

[summer temple]

Nah, that's just being dumb and not doing the objective

There is NOTHING wrong with leaving an endless mission after 1 rotation

[restive warren]

You also have peeps easily distracted thought do it enough time and it should eventually click

[summer temple]

If you're given the opportunity to leave by the devs, you're allowed to leave

[restive warren]

It feels awful for people that farm if person is host like I said.

[rocky breach]

for normal endless i would agree, for things like circuit where theres the random picks its less cut and dry morally at least

[restive warren]

No one said you ain't allowed to leave.

You're twisting our words.

Well I'm already bored of this conversation if someone gonna growl because there's a legit inconvenience and to my excuse I'd have a few ideas on how to counter some of it.

Everyone agrees host migration is an issue, yet when people say "Well gotta do something" it seems nothing is good enough 🤔

[summer temple]

I mean, not much you can do to improve it

[restive warren]

[summer temple]

It's a necessary feature

[restive warren]

They could do something like that.

The question is: How much coding/work it would be to get this done.

Realistically no one of us truly knows outside DE

Considering apparently they have their own engine (From what I remember reading)

Also there's a way to track your % of quitting mission, that could be somewhat a way too alternatively. (Wouldn't be as accurate unfortunately)

[storm pike]

just set your matchmaking ping lower if you don't like bad hosts, that makes it more likely that you will host and people will join you cuz they dont have such a strict ping limit

[restive warren]

[rocky breach]

they put something towards that end for IOS, making them the lowest host priority.
was honestly hoping it would lead to a more granular hosting option

[summer temple]

That seems like way too much effort for a niche benefit, sorry

How would you ever program something to scan who's likely to stay longer in missions

[restive warren]

I mean considering your profile has something to track your quitting mission %? They could add a counter for how long you stay in def/survival etc

Or at least Disruption and Circuit

Actual farming area, idk why I went with Surv/def as first thought

[restive warren]

Considering they have nightwave that asked us to stay for X amount of waves or X amount of disruption rounds. It could be doable but

Like you said, which you're right, it would potentially be a lot

The niche thing idk if I fully agree

Look at it like that, everyone complain about host migration that could be somewhat of a fix. At least for some of it, obviously you can't just stop people from loosing power and other stuff in the genre

[restive warren]

... I completely forgot about that, they might've been slowly testing..?

[mortal meadow]

Can you use torid incarnon with ninjase afk steel path build? Or must be rifle with x8 fire rate?

[restive warren]

Pretty sure Torid in incarnon require minimum effort for gain if I remember right

But to be fair idk what build you're talking about

[restive warren]

Have you tried asking in #builds-discussion ?

[sudden tendon]

X8 fire rate?

[strong field]

Ngl you can build however you want with your own torid and no one's gonna care

[summer temple]

I've seen people complain about host migration and suggest some way to avoid it
like "if the host leaves, they should just make someone else the host so you can keep playing"

people are dumb lmao

[lyric lotus]

[lyric lotus]

My gas and blast torid is awesome :v

[restive warren]

I think because of it's done, you'd still migrate.

As it is right now I mean

Because that's what happen, you can stay and someone else will be host.

It would be same exact thing.

[restive warren]

I want this

[lyric lotus]

with auto disband, host migration is even worst now especially if you are into ETA/EDA with pub group

[restive warren]

Only other gun I can safely rock gas/blast is Zakti and erh... I forgot but it's an augment anyways to make it happen

[restive warren]

Wait wait how

I guess you could go with some that are already blast too

[lyric lotus]

I will share the secret sauce of the blast and gas torid with you child when i get back to my home of witches

[restive warren]

eggscellent

[lyric lotus]

speaking of egg....heard egg become luxury food in some countries now?

[restive warren]

Not first time I heard that, but it's still confuse me

[summer temple]

are you sure you have blast AND gas?
2 elements both requiring heat

[lyric lotus]

imagine having a $100 omelette

[lyric lotus]

been using it for years with gas and blast, yes i am sure about it.

[restive warren]

That already exist I thought, forgot what bird it's from tho

[summer temple]

how, show build

[lyric lotus]

Chicken

[lyric lotus]

can't right now, at work.

[restive warren]

Massive Chimken, huuuuuge, gigantic

[summer temple]

try to remember and send me later then

cause I'm 99% certain you can't run blast gas

[lyric lotus]

[restive warren]

🤔

There's some oddball you can do weird thing

Depending.

Only one I can remember on top of my head is Basmu rn

Cuz main fire is x element, and alt is y element

[lyric lotus]

i would use basmu if the magazine was a lil bit larger

[restive warren]

It's battery, realistically it doesn't matter, but I myself had to get a riven just for comfort ngl

[tulip magnet]

is it also fine to intentionally fail 2 vaults in spy if the devs made it possible to finish with just 1?

[restive warren]

Yeah definetly,. we should go in Public spy just to fail on purpose, it's only logical 🙂‍↕️

Bare minimum effort

[tulip magnet]

or did you mean 1 AABC (in which case I agree)

[summer temple]

if I proc the alarm in all 3, but succeeded first 2, I'll intentionally fail 3 to skip exterminate

[tulip magnet]

that throws away the highest tier reward though

but tbh I'm not that mad about people leaving early in endless

[summer temple]

I don't typically play for the reward
and if I do, I do solo and pay more attention

[tulip magnet]

unless it's conjunction survival and they spawn a bunch of thraxes by the extraction point

[limpid viper]

get rid of attenuation NOW! 45 min EDA Assassination... wtf even is this?

not hard at all, just tedious and a snorefest

[restive warren]

Honestly don't care, but if you have one day you have that happen x6 times in a row and everytime they are the host, makes farming sorta annoying depending what you're playing

[limpid viper]

how is a potential 45 min mission better than a 4,5 min one?

[summer temple]

bugged mission

[restive warren]

I tend to have "bunch of buffs" to settup on my Channeled warframes

[summer temple]

boss has 4 player scaling, but clients do basically no damage

play solo to not be there for 45 mins

[restive warren]

Damn annoying to get them all sorted out sometime depending on your party

[limpid viper]

so uhhh, fix it, maybe?

[lyric lotus]

had to redo ETA final mission twice today cause that tank was tripping

[limpid viper]

fix it NOW or remove it, like ffs

[summer temple]

give the devs time lmfao

[restive warren]

Disruption for Axi relics obviously

-Slap pile of Axi relics- This bad boi is bound to drop something

[limpid viper]

also, blue shards are WAYYYYY too common

overall, the rewards for any of the "endgame" stuff REALLY sucks

[lyric lotus]

i want blue shards, i have sheit ton of yellows :/

[limpid viper]

I have 10x blue shards compared to all others... combined, lmao

[restive warren]

We don't talk about the pile of yolos we been hoarding

[restive warren]

Trading players shard for shard would be gr8 rn

[lyric lotus]

wish we coult at least trade not with plat but only shards

[restive warren]

Listen if you want yolos, you can have yolos

[limpid viper]

that or turn 3-9 x into y

[restive warren]

I want the blues, the red, the any color that's not yolo

[limpid viper]

with a cost, ofc, like stelas (which are a pain, tbh)

[restive warren]

Yeah, honestly I'd be fine with either option

[lyric lotus]

or....hear me out...let us break tau shards

[restive warren]

Less a pain if you have the magpie syndrom in Mirror defense, but goodluck having anyone that wanna run that in the first place.

[viscid stirrup]

And what do we get in return?

[lyric lotus]

normal shards of color

[restive warren]

... Dissappointement salad?

[lyric lotus]

side dish

[restive warren]

Oh

[lyric lotus]

like we currently need 3 regular shards to make a tau? if we break we get 2, thats the take off

[restive warren]

ngl, we have a recurring way to get blue/yellow/red. but I wish we had one focused on the other 3 (Typos)

[viscid stirrup]

And refunded stela as a bonus

[restive warren]

I mean realistically we can get some from ETA and the Calendar, but not.... reliably?

[limpid viper]

stick em on Kaya, 5-10 pix chips for a mixed one, rotating each week

[lyric lotus]

questionable demand.

[restive warren]

[limpid viper]

honestly, unclear why the devs haven't implemented these like... suuuuuper easy and ez W qol-things

[restive warren]

I don't think they wanted us to get them super quickly at first.

But at this point... There's so many warframe...

[limpid viper]

nah, but it's been like a year, man

[lyric lotus]

The current issue with getting singular color red/blue/yolo is even more stattared since we have purp/green/orange in the drop pool now

[restive warren]

That too.

[lyric lotus]

which makes it even more problem then solution in certain cases

[restive warren]

Ngl I'm not a fan of ETA but that's on me. But we have Archon fight for red/blue/yellow + EDA

[lyric lotus]

and for past 2 week, EDA loadout being the troll it can get

[restive warren]

I was hoping an "equivalent" maybe not to the "T" ofc for green/purple/orange

Whenever they do Oberon gets a rework, the odds him and (eventually Qorvex P) will be chugging on my orange prob

[lyric lotus]

ye

and i need some more purp to finish valks build

[restive warren]

We gonna need purps for Gyre prime too, the odds are

[lyric lotus]

Speaking of prime, i need to get yarelli, probably this week

That two rare part making me not to go and grind at all

And one being in the lith relic :/

Not sure why there is no meso relic for her

[restive warren]

It's sorta feels weird ngl

[sudden tendon]

she doesnt?

thats so weird

[restive warren]

I'm not sure if it was first time or not, I mean eventually they prob got some

Idk if it was for Meso either tbh

[lyric lotus]

no there is only lith neo and axi relic for her and lith having a rare part

[worthy wedge]

Thanks

[sudden tendon]

wa da hell

[pseudo forge]

two liths, yeah?

[restive warren]

Think so ye

[lyric lotus]

2 lith one neo one axi

[restive warren]

I remembered oddball weapon, not on top of my head

[lyric lotus]

turmna

gave me trauma to farm

[restive warren]

Traumna 😩

[summer temple]

people usually love more lith

[pseudo forge]

fair enough ig

[lyric lotus]

eidolon arcanes taking another dip in trading...

[rocky breach]

better to just solo it so theres less scaling,
something after the oraxia patch (prob the fractured bosses there) is affecting EDA assassination, so yeah its long if you have a full squad

[restive warren]

Sorta surprised there was no note about adding EDA arcanes to the Hex bundle ngl

[lyric lotus]

[restive warren]

I don't remember how long it took last time to be fair 🤔

Was it 2 or 3 updates?

[lyric lotus]

probably forgor

[restive warren]

Oh, maybe

To be fair people didn't seem all excited about them, so priority prob got yeeted out of the window

[lyric lotus]

also, there are like trillions of arcanes in the game now...

hard to keep track which is from where

[rocky breach]

as someone who did the grind for eidolon arcanes mostly from eidolons... im glad they're more accessible.
i sat at rank3 energize for ages since it was more profitable to just sell the extras

[tawdry lark]

Does galvanized mods on a bow still work with sentinels with rifle weapon?

[rocky breach]

as long as you get the stacks and keep them up yourself, it should still affect your sentinel (dont think theres been any patches which would change that)

[lyric lotus]

thats what i did with first few when Eidolon arcanes were expensive :p

[tawdry lark]

Oh, I thought it wouldn't work since it is a bow (dunno why rifle mods)

[restive warren]

When you wanna keep the arcane it has so much value you know it's best to let go if you want all the other fancy things 💀

[rocky breach]

reminds me i should sell my ETA arcanes since ive maxed those out

[lyric lotus]

only fashion frame is real.

i still need few from ETA before start selling extras

[restive warren]

I only have 1 ETA arcanes and it was from a Twitch drop

[lyric lotus]

how come...

[rocky breach]

even though i maxed them out, FOMO is still hitting since they're limited to 1 purchase a week...so i keep buying them

i could be buying stickers instead

[restive warren]

I haven't touched ETA tbh, just... Wasn't a fan of EDA, and I really tried a couple time to get used to it but I just... Idk... Couldn't?

Which is weird because I don't mind Duviri and I'm limited by choice

But I also don't get crowbarred in the knees with annoying negative and get hyper lifted with decrees so I guess my brain can't analyze it as the same?

[lyric lotus]

fair enough.

[rocky breach]

EDA isnt too bad since you get a free slot, and with the exalted/pseudo reworks i just grab one of those frames...usually hildryn is braindead since it ignores all the shield/energy/status effect downsides, and can brute force through the duration ones

[sleek pivot]

nuking capability wise which is better nova or saryn?

[rocky breach]

ETA is a bit more iffy if you want max results

[restive warren]

Are people even buyin' 'em? I mean outside Hotshot

[lyric lotus]

but eta rewards are juicy.

[sudden tendon]

dont think nova can nuke and sayrn is only lower lvs

[rocky breach]

i think its just hotshot, but not too sure im too lazy to check the market most of the time

[restive warren]

Fair

Figured people would love that juicy crit tho

More interested in Universal Fallout ngl

[lyric lotus]

arbi arcanes got added to the arbi vendors?

[sudden tendon]

believe so

changed that with the previous update

[lyric lotus]

cool, now i can max out some of it. good addition.

[restive warren]

T'was awful I remember when I missed just the last one to get

[rocky breach]

10 vitus per arcane

i used to farm the disruption...and void flood arbis

cos they were 1.5-2min rotations for arcanes

[lyric lotus]

thats....not bad per say

[restive warren]

"Did you get it" "No put this sculpture down along with the pile"

[rocky breach]

and 20 vitus for the mods (combat disc, adaptation, aerodynamic, etc)

[pure gulch]

she kinda can but only lower level as well, null stars kill suprisingly well but not that high up in enemy level tbh

[lyric lotus]

only issue, pub arbi's are 50/50 chance of having anyon stay more than 5 round of any endless.

[sudden tendon]

ic

[pure gulch]

but yeah I wouldn’t necessarily say nova is a nuke frame though

[sudden tendon]

fair enough

[rocky breach]

nova chain booms works in base starchart, for SP you can get it to work with zariman incarnons (the booms count as whatever triggered them, so guns in this case), since they can get the 21x dmg evolution

nullstar spamming nukes through base starchart easily, and can work at base SP pretty decently if you have roar or nourish subsumed

[pure gulch]

yeah that sounds about right

[rocky breach]

saryn miasma nuking works in base starchart, but starts to fall off towards the end of the story (lvl60-80+) and it becomes more about keeping spores going

spores damage also starts to fall off towards the end, they just take too long to kill stuff

so most people will transition over to a weapons platform and abuse toxic lash

[restive warren]

Hmm

Is there any armor strip that work relatively well on Saryn?

[rocky breach]

spores do corrosive status per tick, with 1-2 green shards you get 98-100% strip

[restive warren]

Do they

Man been a while I used saryn

I just vaguely remembering reading on wiki something didn't work out with either A-Archon Contuinity or was it shard I'm not sure which

[rocky breach]

when i use sobek, ill have a bit of range and use spores to mostly strip armor (and to see dmg numbers through walls so i know where enemies are)

[restive warren]

Prob fixed by now honestly

[rocky breach]

archon continuity sadly only works for molts toxin aoe, which i think is when it dies or expires

[restive warren]

Whenever molt goes boom

[rocky breach]

yer

[summer temple]

Unairu

[restive warren]

(To be fair, I looked for any excuse not to get her out of the closet so I didn't try very hard)

[rocky breach]

eh, ill take it, guess ill be playing some mesa this week

[limpid horizon]

can we all agree that Banshee 4th is completely useless right now? (like... this thing is a [CLEM]ing relic of the past, completely unusable by any way possible...)

[restive warren]

atm yeah, but they nerfed it... Is it twice? Because it was encouraging AFK play

[rocky breach]

yeah its the default subsume slot

[restive warren]

It's there in spirit and asking to be remove like aubi said

[rocky breach]

its too strong for low levels (the range/being able to keep going infinitely)
and for higher levels its the free slot

[limpid horizon]

they should probably rework it

[restive warren]

Unfortunately I don't think she's in priority list for a rework atm

I forgot who they mention who's gonna get rework next

[rocky breach]

would be nice if it had an augment which made it channeled, and when hitting a weakspot/headshot/sonar spot, it did a shockwave based on that dmg...even more dmg is always good

[restive warren]

... I think they vaguely mentioned Oberon but idk if it was confirmed or "we're looking into it rn" thing.

[limpid horizon]

[rocky breach]

but overall silence + sonar + passive makes banshee good enough

[limpid horizon]

good

[rocky breach]

1/4 are whatever, when the rest of the kit is so strong

[restive warren]

Oberon need a large amount of jeebus crisp

[strong field]

It was enough of a mention for wiki to have it in upcoming features

[limpid horizon]

I mean, I can see why...

-# ... plus, I'm starting to get tired of the "Gloooooom Bansheeeeee"... at least, Cyte-O9 Evade is a good counterpart

[lyric lotus]

the goat need grass to be strong

[restive warren]

And I needed a bigger amount when I had the old Inaros + 2 Nekros in my part and I was one sad oberon chugging on energy like it's going out of style

[restive warren]

It's pretty much your 2 option to go to honestly 😭

Either Gloom or Evade

Evade prob less brutal on energy

[summer temple]

Banshee could do with a rework, yea
Right after higher priority ones like oberon or loki imo

[restive warren]

I thought they said they didn't wanna rework loki or something like that?

Wait no, what was the wording they used

[summer temple]

He needs it 💀

[restive warren]

I don't disagree

[limpid horizon]

Loki is "Ok-ish"?... I mean, I say that because I run the classic combo of Bo-Prime (Incarnon), Lex Prime (Incarnon) and Latron Prime (Inrcanon)

[rocky breach]

lokis in the same boat as banshee in a way, 1-2 strong skills mean theyre in a decent spot, not bad but not amazing
essentailly invis weapons frame just like rhino/revenant

[strong field]

Pablo blatantly said no to Loki on twitter

[restive warren]

I just remember them saying they didn't .... Wanna remove his identity..? I'm not sure of the exact words used, sorry

It was during one of the devstream

[limpid horizon]

"I dunno want to make it an powerframe 😦 "

... probably Pablo

[restive warren]

I would rather him have "mild" tweaks vs rework tho

[rocky breach]

sure you can actually use lokis skills to do some weird stuff (invuln switch, or augment for decoy)
but its effective and braindead to just pump duration+str and subsume on roar/xatas and pew pew

[summer temple]

So you're using your weapons and the only reason for loki is invisibility
Which any Warframe can have

[lyric lotus]

then give him a new ID card with same name

[restive warren]

Loki can be good

[summer temple]

Nah, banshee has 2 strong skills
Loki has 4 "usable" skills

[rocky breach]

loki having the silent shooting augment is the main reason he nudges ahead

[limpid horizon]

well, CC for weak target, focusing on eliminating threats, causing chaos and using his Decoy to mark bigger target

[restive warren]

I snorted a little

[rocky breach]

theres a reason he was the defactor solo capper for beginners before the revenant rework (ignoring octavia)

[restive warren]

His decoy augment pretty solid tho

[summer temple]

Loki is outdated as hell, idk why pablo straight shot down a rework idea

But hey, at least that means they can do chroma/banshee after oberon

[restive warren]

I mean I did say what they said on Devstream

Something about identity

[lyric lotus]

granpa loki...

[limpid horizon]

they should make his ability Radial Disarm destroy a part of Overguard somehow

[lyric lotus]

one of the og frames...so probably they just want to keep him as is.

[rocky breach]

radial disarm could use something
but invis/switch and to an extent decoy are in fine spots

loki/banshee have been in my top 5 yearly used the past 3-4 recaps

[restive warren]

Don't think they'd touch Loki, it's okay, Loki isn't a warframe for me and I'm okay with that

I'll still play Loki above Limbo in a heart beat tho

[rocky breach]

effective but boring

[restive warren]

Will also play Loki above Wukong

[summer temple]

it's a shame, cause why do the other old frames get to be good, but loki doesn't

with like the exception of ember, she could do with a third rework

[restive warren]

They are never bringing back world on fire

[lyric lotus]

loki is that middle child who got forgoten by the parents

[rocky breach]

just like revenant, you COULD use the whole kit, but why do that when you can just mesmer skin + subsume, and maybe enthrall if you're doing something like mobile defense

[summer temple]

no, but they could fix the 300 other issues she has

[restive warren]

Didn't they fixed a couple?

[summer temple]

ye, couple

[restive warren]

I thought they added a bunch of QoL about people complaining about x and y when they got Heirloom out

[rocky breach]

honestly sad that ember even after the touchup just became generic weapons platform in fire flavour

[summer temple]

her biggest issues are still her clunky heat meter and reverse-heat inherit

[restive warren]

... Reverse?

[summer temple]

ye, her abilities make her guns do less damage via heat

[rocky breach]

her nukes dont hit hard, so makes the heat dot small

[restive warren]

[summer temple]

she's not the only frame with that issue
she's just the most notable one

[rocky breach]

since heat dots work off the first application as the base

[restive warren]

OH

[limpid horizon]

her ability "nerf" the gun damage, even if stripped their armor...

[restive warren]

Yeah I understood from what aubi explained

[limpid horizon]

Ring of Flame is often used to strip armor, but also negate "Heat Inherit" damage from weapon

[summer temple]

easiest ways to fix her would be to completely remove heat inherit
or to make her abilities fake heat, like how volt's 4 is fake electric

[restive warren]

Didn't Chroma did that too or at least some time, or did at some point

[summer temple]

any frame that procs heat does that

[restive warren]

I just remember doing Netracells and someone complaining with my buff they did less dmg that one time

[summer temple]

thing is, frames like protea/lavos can nuke 30x better than ember, so they don't NEED guns

[rocky bough]

16

[restive warren]

And I was just sitting there questioning my life

[summer temple]

then basically everything except coda weapons
gotcha
try any of the lich/sister guns, see what you like

[pseudo forge]

volt's 4 is still fake electric?
ik they fixed frost having fake cold procs n all that but they didn't touch volt?

[limpid horizon]

or to make ANY heat damage apply the "biggest" bonus rather than the first one they it

[summer temple]

and of course, incarnons

[rocky breach]

it does elec dmg, just not elec status
so not really fake elec, just not the elec we want

[rocky bough]

coda weapons require more mr?

[summer temple]

volt 4 isn't electric procs, correct
it's just electric damage

[restive warren]

They fixed fake cold proc with Frost heirloom I think

I hope I'm remembering well at least

[summer temple]

sure, that could work, but that's basically my first idea, removing/fixing heat inherit

[lyric lotus]

Frost heirloom 😩

[restive warren]

But yeah Volt still have that fake elec

[summer temple]

17

[pseudo forge]

i see

[limpid horizon]

oh, I didn't think that way by what you said

[restive warren]

Let me put Styanax deluxe chest attachment on it dammit

[rocky bough]

oof

[restive warren]

Trust

[lyric lotus]

no.

[restive warren]

Lemme cook

COME ON

[rocky bough]

tbf im v close to 17 so which coda weapons should i try

[pseudo forge]

bassocyst is the only one i've enjoyed so far
(i think i keep grabbing the bad ones lmfao)

[rocky bough]

oh lol

[summer temple]

bassocyst is phenomenal

[rocky bough]

can you get codas w an active lich or nah

[restive warren]

New ak pistol were meh?

[summer temple]

and it's quite fun with the alt-fire

[rocky bough]

aw

[summer temple]

torxica are just budget toxocyst, sadly
they're cool tho

[restive warren]

Considering you can't get a Sister and a Lich, that means that's a no

[restive warren]

Oh.

Well, that's lackluster :(

[lyric lotus]

one adversery at a time. imagine having all 3 active and they been taunting you in every mission

[pseudo forge]

haven't used em
but i heard something about they have the same gimmick as dual tox's incarnon or something?

[restive warren]

I just got Coda Causta and called it a day ngl

[summer temple]

ye, they fill the same purpose, but worse
the AoE cold is kinda neato I guess

I grabbed the sporo cause I loved the base version
then bassocyst and torxica cause they're new

[pure gulch]

synapse was pretty cool imo

[pseudo forge]

bassocyst, synapse, catabolyst, pox, tysis, hirudo, mire, motovore
i forgot about motovore, motovore is fantastic as well

[restive warren]

Def not for everyone tho

[pure gulch]

haven’t really bought many of em tho

[pure gulch]

yeah agree, funny headshots tho

[restive warren]

Is Pox finally functional?

[lyric lotus]

good fellas still use old synapse over the coda version cause of riven dispo :p

[restive warren]

I remember getting it in SP circuit and poor Eternal had to carry

[pure gulch]

jokes on you i don’t have synapse riven

[restive warren]

Because I was like "this is fine, trust"

[lyric lotus]

i do have it :v

[restive warren]

Btw it wasn't fine :( reg pox suc