gameplay-discussion

[torn sierra]

I can agree with this

Incredibly important feature

[obsidian aspen]

still weird to me how the Eximus Babau are much easier to find than the regular Babau

[torn sierra]

do they give any reward for beating them?

[tranquil kayak]

I'm getting Tyana Pass flashbacks

[tribal canopy]

Do people still buy random prime parts in sets of 6 for 12 plat?

[gritty surge]

I know I'm late, but it never occurred to me that Dagath might not get to ride the horse.

[opal wraith]

maybe when atomicycle frame comes out

[gritty surge]

Sounds neat, yeah

[grand lance]

I'm honestly super glad they didn't try to put her on the horse. Maybe someday we will get an inverse loyal marilina for her for though. That would be fun

[gritty surge]

Boarding around is nearly all the appeal for me, but I know it's off-meta and janky.

[grand lance]

The jank is the real issue imho. Especially on console riding marilina around on anything but the largest tile set is janky AF

[gritty surge]

Yeah, she's pretty situational, but those situations are great, so it'd be cool to have a horse like that.

[grand lance]

Since the horse wasn't included in the base kit, I firmly agree.

[ocean current]

hello

[tribal canopy]

That jank, is also super tanky

[gritty surge]

Real

[tribal canopy]

Also it motivates constant movement

And keeps you using the secondary

Also remember, secondary enervate on the kompressa is busted

[gritty surge]

Yeah, I mean loyal isn't for me. I'd just use another pet class and even running into walls is fun. I don't have to be graceful to kompressa the whole room, lol

[weary lintel]

should i get a magnetic or toxin progenitor on my glaxion?

[spare bluff]

hello guys just a quick quetion, how can i get my main wepon Arcane able?

i cant find the resourse anywhere

[opal wraith]

Well seeing as I can't read Japanese, I'd make an assumption your looking at melees. You don't get melee arcanes till after whispers in the walls quest.

[strong field]

No stance

[opal wraith]

Then it is hidden till they get an arcane adapter.

or till steel path

[spare bluff]

ohhh ive finished the whispers in the walls quest, so now i should maybe go to tenshin and get a adapter thenn ill be able to put arcane on it

[opal wraith]

Yea, try getting an adapter.

[spare bluff]

okkk thank you very muchh

[sly timber]

what should i keep

[compact sable]

hmm

my gut says left

though if I were you I'd use a damage calculator

[vestal ember]

Im doing the war within quest and im just struggling on that one archwing mission in sedna;-; I've been trying for hours and i cant even get past the beams

[dull ferry]

Right

I mean the neg kinda sucks, but just build for more crit or smth

[sly timber]

i jus wanna sell it

[vestal ember]

Could someone help me???

[marsh panther]

Anyone know a good boar incarnon build? I feel like I should be doing more damage than I am since it's pretty weak in high level steel path

[magic finch]

At least It's a consistent jank, so once you learn how to overcome the jank and practice enough, you can surf through almost anything.

I love the jank. Sure, it took a couple hundred hours to get good, but it was worth it

[haughty vapor]

whats the best way to get endo rn?

[brave flare]

Vodiyina Sedna with a pre-made group

I think it's still 1 khora, 2 nekros and 1 nidus

[harsh geode]

Can someone explain 'air range' on Zephyr's tail wind ability?

[red vale]

Vigor or fury

[untold estuary]

Vigor honestly

Fury is great but there's other good attack speed mods that give like combo count chance

[fathom cipher]

fury bcs u never really need more hp unless u health tank, which i doubt u are rn. fury is nice to have

[red vale]

Hmmmm I will eventually get both

[fathom cipher]

fair

[untold estuary]

Yeah, fury is probably the better meta choice

But i like vigor for my more casual builds

[magic river]

Can someone tell what state is in duviri rn

[jolly tiger]

Texas

[coarse basin]

It’s switching to Oklahoma next rotation

[maiden hill]

why is one of the earliest rank ups for the cavia 60 voidgel orbs i swear to god

[summer temple]

easily

[untold estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/marge-i-just-think-theyre-neat-the-simpsons-neat-potato-gif-8549864

[lunar pewter]

When you want to keep a lich ... does it change anything the level it is ? what i mean is getting it higher level that make it stronger ... does it also make it a stronger crew menber you can call in game ?

[steep shadow]

Anyone know what this is supposed to be? The value didn't load

[marsh linden]

Also bugged for me

[strong field]

It's 10

[marsh linden]

Oof

Shotgun/punch time i guess

[lavish sparrow]

Anyone have spare claw stance mod?

For garudas claws

[wild cargo]

hello everyone , newbie here, this is my mandatory onboardinge message,

[fair flame]

i hope they change that rather bad nerf to larva when they have ensnare being just as good if not better than larva

[mild vigil]

Very slightly higher range, double duration but things often die quickly when grouped, and its slower to pull in enemies than how instant larva is, plus double the energy cost

They probably wont change it

[fair flame]

its such a low range that entrangle is just flat out better helminth ability for clumping. but no one ueses theses as they are both bad when compaired to codorn

[mild vigil]

The ranges of the grouping abilities available in helminth are all almost identical

Grouping abilities aren't necessary with a lot of weapons but pulling everything into a consistent tiny killzone can really speed things up

[fair flame]

i just want larva to be 10m not that weak 8

[mild vigil]

I forget if coil horizon is also 10m but it's got physics and having to reactivate it so I think people dont want its awkwardness

[tired nova]

What's a helmith that doesn't scale with duration?

Or at least one where duration just doesn't matter

[dim wedge]

Tharros strike

[tired nova]

Anything else?

[unkempt lotus]

Damn, been a while since I played Warframe last. Where should I start?

[raw gull]

definitely at the start?

[lofty garden]

Quests wiki entry, go down the list in order.

[leaden obsidian]

At the start

[teal rampart]

Do these weapons cook

[leaden obsidian]

Not currently

Get its incarnon(burston and I believe skana has incarnons)

[fathom cipher]

burston incarnon cooks

[teal rampart]

luckily i had an incarnon for burston

[fathom cipher]

nice

[sonic prism]

the Coda Motovore can't have a riven for it? I can't see a riven dispo on it so does that mean rivens cant exist for it?

[pearl parcel]

oi, ye dense scheisse, deathloop and Ogu and the Secret Forest are free on EGS presently

[mild vigil]

If you are at base duration, there's plenty of things to use, but if you're talking about a build where you only have like 40% duration remaining or something, then your best options are very limited. Probably non-duration grouping like airburst.

You'll just have to go through and see if there's anything your build actually needs cause most useful subsumes require duration tbh

[tired nova]

I'm at 13 duration

It's baruuk

You WANT the leaset amount of dur possible

So you can spam lull, so you can keep your fists going for longer

[mild vigil]

Lmao oh god you went all in
Yeah that won't give you many options

The only other thing I can add on top of the armor strip and grouping is omamori is there for survival if you want

I haven't played baruuk beyond mastering so I dont know which he wants

[strong field]

The wiki has it

[sonic prism]

might see if i can get hold of one, shrug

[strong field]

What kind of riven do you want on it tho, it's got bad despacito

[tired nova]

I was thinking about maybe tesla nervos with the augment?

[mellow turret]

nuking duration to that extent means you cant use WA which sucks bc WA baruuk is some of the most fun you can have in this game lol

[mellow turret]

rj bug

[tiny plaza]

So what did I level? Cause...

[tiny plaza]

Yeah, figured. just went to kill a lich so...

[narrow badge]

pov: ran out of live heart cells

[outer snow]

This sounds like a jack black announcement

[narrow badge]

And now: Meatball Ransom.

[leaden obsidian]

Andnow meatball, rises!

[narrow badge]

🔥

[leaden obsidian]

Heck it, meatball form

[narrow badge]

I require my Meatball Incarnon

[leaden obsidian]

I require my kuva meatball incarnon

[narrow badge]

Meatball Incarnon gets put on Grendel frfr

[leaden obsidian]

Yes!

[narrow badge]

Potential spoiler for Jade Shadows, but I have a simple question. Do I accept this challenge?

[leaden obsidian]

No jade shadows spoiler, but what’s the dude offering

[narrow badge]

literally nothing. He's just telling me to grind RJ lmao

[pseudo forge]

i mean, you should anyway
for the MR
but i would not grind it. just do a couple missions here n there
also yeah slight jade shadows spoiler? but it only really makes sense if you know what intrinsic you're referring to and the jade shadows bit already so

[narrow badge]

true

[proud plume]

Is there a way to hide objective markers on screen that may overlap with my crosshair?

[narrow badge]

well he does say what intrinsic it is though

[abstract marsh]

Railjack intrinsics have a lot of value outside of railjack. Rank 8s are archwing perks, some mech perks, can unlock elite/on call crewmates with them,

[narrow badge]

yeah, like duviri

[formal drift]

what do I choose?

[pseudo forge]

shred
fury gets outclassed, vigor is kinda bad anyway
most frames specialize in health or shield, so increasing both by less isn't great

[slender kite]

If you need a reason
Nyx and Valkyr are the only prime frames whose relics are permanent
But they are in railjack missions

[narrow badge]

good enough reason

valkyr rework

[sudden tendon]

U can get her for free as a twitch drop on tennocon

[narrow badge]

there's still nyx who also had a rework at least

[tranquil kayak]

Old gen Tenno when they play the game on a PC

Source: Minbitt (YouTube)

[quasi marsh]

Soon, the asia wukong mains will cease to exist bc those speedrunners are so annoying

[tranquil kayak]

God I hate Wukong

I said it already but I flamed a slamkong a few weeks ago lmao

Right here

[mighty panther]

Lmao flaming someone for playing the game and using a mechanic that was inputed by DE is kinda funny

[tranquil kayak]

A mechanic that DE has also very clearly acknowledged is an issue and are actively removing from the game soon.

Read on, see where I say exactly that

[mighty panther]

Still a mechanic they put in, no?

[tranquil kayak]

Are you a Dead By Daylight player by any chance?

[mighty panther]

Never played it. Do you always flame people for playing the game how they want to?

[tranquil kayak]

I flame people for actively ruining other players experiences, yes

[mighty panther]

Was he purposely ruining your experience? No. He was playing the game how he wants to, and if you have an issue with that then that’s a YOU problem, no need to flame someone for playing the game how they want to

[pseudo forge]

you should still acknowledge if your way of playing is disruptive to others
in that case, slamkongs generally are disruptive and either do not acknowledge it or do not care, which is just kinda sucky

[mighty panther]

It’s “disruptive” because he’s quicker to get kills than his teammates? If you’re that desperate for kills don’t play on open. And why should they change the way they want to play just because someone’s having a sook because they can’t get some kills. I just disagree with flaming someone for playing how they want to, if you have that big of an issue with it then just leave, it’s not a them issue, it’s a you issue.

[pseudo forge]

its disruptive because "woah! suddenly i'm not playing the game anymore! i'm just walking around!"
the kills aren't the important piece. its that i'm not having fun anymore because the room is clear and will continue to be clear until they move on
if anyone should not be on public, it should be the disruptive player

[mighty panther]

Anyone with half a brain would just be like, “let’s go find a different area to get kills” it’s genuinely not rocket science.

[pseudo forge]

damn, calling people stupid because they can see a disruptive issue?
yeah, go to a different room and kill things until the disruptive player moves with you. it just gets tiring. move all you want, the room clear is not far behind you. yeah, if i encounter a disruptive player, i finish whatever interval of the mission i'm on and leave, but that doesn't mean it isn't a problem or that i should just deal with it and move on

[placid turtle]

They added aim glide to Fortnite

[pseudo forge]

wth why did they put aim glide in fortnite

[placid turtle]

Whoop I see this shitpost was in the middle of some sort of argument

[placid turtle]

It's more like the Max Payne 3 gunplay from what I can tell (as in, I haven't played Max Payne 3 but I have tried out the Fortnite gun)

https://youtube.com/shorts/7qUDB57w4Ms?feature=shared

[sudden tendon]

wut

i need more information

[pseudo forge]

huh. maybe i'll reinstall to mess with this lol

[mighty panther]

Where did I call people stupid? “I finish whatever interval of the mission im on and leave” good for you, that’s what you should do, but you’re completely missing what I’m saying and it’s hysterical. I’m saying it’s wrong to flame someone for playing the game how they want to. Do deal with it and move on, if you have an issue with it, it’s a YOU problem, there’s many many people who wouldn’t mind having someone do all the work for them, and if you’re not one of those people so be it, just move on and leave it

[sudden tendon]

holy shit that looks kinda sick

u might get beamed out of the sky but still looks sick

[sudden tendon]

also if ur not in asia u rarely ever see a slamkong

[placid turtle]

The new season superpower themed and one specific gun belonging to one of their original superhero characters has this ability

[sudden tendon]

ive played eu and na and i havent seen one in months

[sudden tendon]

finally no more stupid starwars season

[placid turtle]

It's a pretty common gun and pretty OP right now since people haven't figured out how slow you are mid-air while aim gliding

[mighty panther]

I’ve never seen one at all lmao

[placid turtle]

My buddies and I already have won 2 matches

[sudden tendon]

yeah exactly

i remember only ever seeing 1 like 4 months into playing

[paper cove]

hi team! I need advice, currently I'm mostly capped because I lack orokin cells, where do you usually farm them and how? 😄 thank youuuuuu

[placid turtle]

Ceres and Saturn

[paper cove]

steel path or regular?

[sudden tendon]

i lowkey thought he was hacking cause he was running magistar and furis which were "new" weapons and i didnt know about incarnons yet lol

[mighty panther]

6 months in for me

[placid turtle]

I think the nodes are Exta, Ceres, an assassinate mission, and Piscinas, Saturn, a survival

[placid turtle]

Either works of course, but there's increased drop rates in steel path

[sudden tendon]

yeah they're not actually that common🤷‍♂️

[paper cove]

thought so, thanks for advice! 🙇🏻‍♀️

[placid turtle]

Exta has two simple bosses so there's a chance the drop them, plus you might find crates

[mighty panther]

Gabii on sp is pretty good, I forgot what planet but it’s a dark sector infested survival

[placid turtle]

And Piscinas is a darksector mission so there's already an increased loot chance

I think Gabii is also Ceres

[paper cove]

taking notes in notepad

[sudden tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[paper cove]

not me having dedicated wf notepad 👀

[sudden tendon]

i had a slapped everything into a discord channel in my own server lol

[pseudo forge]

"Anyone with half a brain"
"Where did I call people stupid?"
alright, to pull one of your cards, where did i defend flaming the person?
my first message stated that the disruptive player either does it intentionally or doesn't acknowledge that they're disruptive, and that mindset just kinda sucks. i was saying that the mindset around it was weird, not that them playing the game how they want to was wrong, nor that they should get flamed for it. inform them, sure, not go off on them for it

[mighty panther]

You’re still going on abt it? The conversation changed, move on lmao

[pseudo forge]

you did the same, but i'm happy to

[fathom cipher]

gabii ceres is my go too

[paper cove]

thank you everyone, I'll try all 3 of the suggested locations and maybe I'll manage to get some orokin cells, currently I'm down to like 4 lol and I need formas and warframes 😄

I'll try to get drop booster somehow too

[summer temple]

Spamming lephantis tbh

[paper cove]

I love the idea, maybe I can throw it in for some variety!

[summer temple]

Each boss has increased chance to drop rare resources of the planet it's on
Lephantis had 4 "deaths", each can drop

[strong field]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-virtuosa-gif-13150635240123291843

[fathom cipher]

thats my baba in arknights

[strong field]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-lappland-head-pat-ear-fluff-annoyed-gif-5451321151172329747

[fathom cipher]

her too fr

[strong field]

Ngl this is the perfect time for me to get back just cuz thorns alter is now available

[fathom cipher]

real, but imma not pull on him

his VAs are sooo nice tho

like mesmerizing

[strong field]

I always like the en dub of thorns

[fathom cipher]

fr

nah thorns the lodestar en voice is insane. give it a listen

i gotta save tho for yu and blaze alter 😩

[strong field]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/903373286023495731.gif?v=1&size=40

[strong field]

Just got MR 19.

Nice

[summer temple]

I'm a hair off of L2 iirc

Should get it soonish

[strong field]

My goal is to get MR 20 before the year ends

[sudden tendon]

not mr 30?

u still got 6 months crodie

[strong field]

Bradford? Didn't know you played warframe.

[sudden tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-winter-tim-bradford-the-rookie-arichenford-gif-10465662618650267091

[summer temple]

His guilty pleasure

[strong field]

MR 30 is also a goal

I need to get more equipment to level up

[sudden tendon]

playing warframe when not watching football

[sudden tendon]

well mr 20 by the end of the year is kinda a lame goal especially when ur mr19 lol

[strong field]

I need to work on getting atlas prime

[sudden tendon]

could do it in like 2 days lol

[sudden tendon]

he looks pretty fun

[strong field]

I have ash prime mastered but not normal ash

What is wrong with me.

[sudden tendon]

normal ash is aids to get

alot of regular frames are harder to farm

[strong field]

I got lavos prime the same day it released

[mellow turret]

circuit

[sudden tendon]

should've sold him for big moneys lol

[strong field]

I needed him otherwise I would have

[sudden tendon]

just gotta wait a whole month lmao

[summer temple]

Also was made easier from RJ

[worthy bough]

Duviri circuit will have to do for certain frames

[summer temple]

Khora moment

[sudden tendon]

unfortunately yeah

and if u just missed it, thats 3 months of waiting

[summer temple]

I wish citrine was in circuit tbh

[worthy bough]

If only they just added a pity system for khora

[summer temple]

Circuit

[worthy bough]

Is she not?

[sudden tendon]

nah

[worthy bough]

Sad

[summer temple]

Sadly, no
Only frames with primes are
And not all of them either

[worthy bough]

Well citrina has a pity system at least

Otherwise hell let loose

[summer temple]

Her pity takes like 6 hours of the same mission over and over

[worthy bough]

Steelpath...?

[summer temple]

in 30 mins you get around 180 currency
you need 1550

[worthy bough]

Does double resources do anything...?

[sudden tendon]

nop

[pseudo forge]

for citrine? no

[worthy bough]

Welp, does Vauban help making it at least tolerable?

[summer temple]

how would he help at all?

[sudden tendon]

funny way of saying titania

[worthy bough]

Isn't it timer based mission or am I mixing mirror defense with murmur defense mission

[sudden tendon]

it is timer based

u just can collect crystals to get belric and rania fragments

and titania is the fastest

[worthy bough]

True

[summer temple]

titania on crystal duty, another person on objective

[sudden tendon]

try not to sleep challenge

[summer temple]

accurate

I only do 30 mins once a month

[worthy bough]

A month 💀

[summer temple]

I don't do it solo and my mates don't wanna do it either

[sudden tendon]

i farmed for secondary encumber in like 2 sessions and ive never used it before💀

[summer temple]

I bought a citrine bundle, now I'm gunning for encumber and second copy of citrine

[sudden tendon]

y second copy

her helminth is not allat

[summer temple]

why not

[sudden tendon]

would not spend the time to farm for another copy

[sudden tendon]

cause its not worth the pain for that practially no loot

[summer temple]

I'm only missing like 3 at this point

[sudden tendon]

damn

[summer temple]

the 2 arcanes are my primary goal
she's a side bonus

[sudden tendon]

i guess if ur THAT close

[sudden tendon]

lowkey forgot which ones the other arcane

[summer temple]

steadfast

[sudden tendon]

right

i love shieldgating so i never bothered lol

oh theres also plated rounds and double back

both completely ass tho

[summer temple]

huge

[sudden tendon]

im 12 days off the primed sure footed

counting down the days

after that i wont need to login anymore

[summer temple]

3 plus her, sorry lol

dante is easy, the other 2 are boring, but not hard
just need a bit of time

[sudden tendon]

yeah light work

could farm allat in a day if ima be honest

maybe except for citrine

[summer temple]

not without getting bored out of my mind

koumei and temple are mind numbingly repetitive

[sudden tendon]

tru

[summer temple]

dante I don't mind cause at least disruption's fun

[sudden tendon]

also fast

[summer temple]

ye, that's why it's fun 😂

[fathom cipher]

koumeis was easy ngl. i got lucky as well and got some parts as a drop

temples is mind numbing and citrine is mind numbing

[summer temple]

koumei is just as bad as temple

citrine is easily the worst warframe to farm in the game

[fathom cipher]

koumei u can just speedrun in base path and its ez to just one shot the boss over n over again. only took me like 10-15 runs max

[summer temple]

You got lucky lol

[fathom cipher]

i just ran around like this

[summer temple]

It took me ages, I had to buy everything with pity currency

[strong field]

I read that as I'm farming resources for citrine

[summer temple]

Tho, to be fair, I was grabbing the weapons too

[plush moss]

revenant prime is back? where to farm his relics?

[green delta]

prime resurgence

[naive granite]

is there any good substitute for galvanized scope in builds cuz i hate the zoom and sensitivity change of aiming

[sudden tendon]

primed pistol gambit

[tulip magnet]

critical delay if absent

[naive granite]

so basically for rifles im fked

[tulip magnet]

and add more crit damage

[naive granite]

ig critical delay is fine cuz it's a wisp build

but thing with galv scope is that i can run it with point strike so idk

does - zoom on e.g riven mods cancel out the sensitivity change or nah

[tulip magnet]

you can change aim sensitivity in the settings btw

[strong field]

people say chroma need a rework...nah fam chroma is balanced and works fr bro can get billions of damage with melee and makes any weapon works in steel path any weapon i even can kill things with weapons with no mods on..he cant die and so on..his 4th needs buffing to make it survive more but other than that he is perfect even just the sentinel can melt steel path with chroma ahahahahah

[summer temple]

You know you can change the sensitivity in settings, right?

[tulip magnet]

chroma needs a rework because he is boring as ****

[naive granite]

1 for ADS sens is still lower than normal sens and 2 is higher

[tulip magnet]

with 1 ability not worth using ever, 1 that is intensely meh, and 1 that's only used for its flavour effect

[strong field]

damage maxxing is fun af

[naive granite]

you know this game is notorious for having terrible sensitivity options right?

[smoky cloak]

hello

[lost storm]

Should I put Heavy Caliber mod (+ damage, - accuracy) on Vulkar Wraith as additional damage?

[tulip magnet]

nah

[strong field]

u subsume his first and change the element damage with the color settings...

[summer temple]

no?

[tulip magnet]

cool, now you have 1 good ability (that's just "moar dmg") and 1 roar/nourish, so much flavour

[sonic prism]

sc
punc
cc
-slash or -imp
itll improve eventually

[strong field]

i wont say no to moar damage yes and the flavor is using any weapon i want and i wont be held back by meta or whatever and yes MOAR DAMAGE ahahahahahahah

[green delta]

he can triple jump

thats all that matters to me

[summer temple]

you can't put roar over 1 on chroma
not sure about nourish

[strong field]

the amounts of time i tripple jumped over the nulfier and survived being nulfied

[tulip magnet]

oh right

[strong field]

yes u can with just nourish

u cant roar

[green delta]

nourish doesnt cout as a dmg buff for helminth

[strong field]

yeah and it does damage boost too lmao

so like u have 2 damage boosts and 2nd and 3rd also adds armor while 4th crowd control even tho his 4th die quickly it still will mes up the enemies and will work just fine if u stand near it

[gritty surge]

Is the game down or something? I just had 10 minutes of appearance customization reset on me.

[summer temple]

not to my knowledge, no

[gritty surge]

Is this a known bug then? It just undead color and skin selection.

[strong field]

when damage maxxing fr..hand pain moment...time for a break

[summer temple]

never heard of it

[summer temple]

I rebound my melee to thumb mouse button for a reason

[strong field]

i rebound the heavy to scroll down and the alternative fire to G but yeah hand pain from playing for hours lmao

[summer temple]

why not heavy and alt fire on same button?

I do mouse 4 for melee, then middle for heavy

[strong field]

idk it will be confusing for me since i switch back and forth but yee it can work but yeah taste moment

i hate using middle mouse button tbh

[summer temple]

I hated X for interact, moved that to E
so I had to move melee somewhere and decided on mouse

[strong field]

yeah its definitely was confusing for X to be interact at first but got used to it i guss lol

[summer temple]

I refused

[strong field]

I just realized I'm missing one loki prime part

[strong field]

Looks good. I'd just go two + instead of three (sc punc -imp/-slash) just so the sc and punc are even higher. CC is covered easily with WA

[lofty garden]

It seems I am not…

I even have his relics, though no 50+ stacks like some others…

[eternal salmon]

So uh... I saw this happen to someone else before.
I've been at 33/33 for a minute; May 18th was the last time I unveiled a riven, to be precise.

I logged in today and I get this message, and I'm somehow at 34/33? I have not done any trading either.

[lofty garden]

Get a riven as part of a sortie?

Depending on how old your stockpile is, you may not have received all the stackable versions.

They can check your logs if you submit a zendesk ticket via #support-and-bugs

[strong field]

The shotgun riven from nightwave is unveiled

[lofty garden]

Get out of town.

Hope that is a bug…

[eternal salmon]

Oooh, is that it?
Well, I melted two I was never gonna play with, for now.

[ivory shuttle]

Why is it so hard to get argon crystals

[untold estuary]

Where are you looking?

[ivory shuttle]

Hepit

[untold estuary]

Welp lol. Bring something that can break items through walls and like vaccuum

[lofty garden]

Crate breaker works wonders for finding crystals, as does opening every cabinet

Xaku and Limbo are good for the job

[short dust]

Is the kubrow or taxon better.. :'p

[obsidian aspen]

apples and oranges

also there's like five different types of Kubrow

[lofty garden]

Helios, Carrier...

[short dust]

Sahasa

[lofty garden]

Oxylus

[obsidian aspen]

again, apples and oranges

[short dust]

..okay

Weeee

[fair flame]

https://tenor.com/view/fadding-dog-traumatized-gif-10801559770686219962

[quasi marsh]

Can you solo deimos mirror defense with gauss?

Not counting using specters

[lofty garden]

For how long? one round? sure

[quasi marsh]

How many rounds does eda last?

[devout burrow]

2

[quasi marsh]

How well does that go for gauss?

[summer temple]

try it and let us know

[devout burrow]

you can technically solo it with any frame, its just very stressful

[quasi marsh]

How much time does a necramech kill get out?

15 secs? 30?

[devout burrow]

30 secs

[quasi marsh]

I hate using specters

[fair flame]

<@&778745217037238293>

[quasi marsh]

yueap

[low plaza]

WTF, I just tried to do a thermia fracture and there WASNT A SINGLE ONE ON THE MAP

[fair flame]

unless the events happing that basicly never spawn

[narrow badge]

like, today? I thought they only showed up on an event

[low plaza]

Damn, I thought it was a perpetual thing and never really knew what the event was

[narrow badge]

yeah, you'll usually see it pop up in the event tab of the navigator

[low plaza]

I see it all the time, just never knew it actually indicated something

[narrow badge]

it happens pretty often, I just see it on every now and then

[low plaza]

I though the fractures were just always there

[narrow badge]

fair enough lmao

but yeah, it just happens frequently, but not all the time

[strong field]

I usually go to mot void sp with nekros solo, works all the time

[low plaza]

ALWAYS go to Mot for Argon

[summer temple]

hepit's usually better bh

[strong field]

Whats the difference

[low plaza]

I always use Mot and i get a TON

[summer temple]

mot you go for mainly enemy drops, hepit you break crates

[strong field]

Loot frames at least work for enemies. Which come in big crowds in sp

[summer temple]

while true, SP also increases drops in general, just running through the map usually gives 1-2

more with boosters/bless

[strong field]

Boosters affect crates?

[summer temple]

pretty sure they affect everything

but resource booster (doubler) doubles any that drops

[strong field]

Then it's up to your playstyle then. I personally hate spam xaku's 4 simulator

[summer temple]

I grab an explosive gun personally

I find it more fun if I don't minmax it

[strong field]

I like to simply use ocucor with nekros gloom. All three lets me shut my brain off. I only ever use gloom on that one setup

[summer temple]

I only run gloom on banshee

[sand stirrup]

Would you guys say 2 Tau Amber Shards for Casting Speed is good for Titania or does 1 suffice?

[green delta]

u dont need any

i use 2 energy on spawn and 3 str

if ur using nourish ig one would be good but otherwise its unnecessary

[sand stirrup]

I have Maxed Preparation in her Exilus so the Energy ones arent necessary for my build atm, and I have 3 Duration Taus to make her Duration a clean 200 in my build

[green delta]

what helminth r u using

[sand stirrup]

Im using Pillage atm but I do use her 2 a lot for the Damage Reduction so the Casting Speed can be nice for it

[green delta]

ah if ur using pillage then u cant use narrow minded i see

[sand stirrup]

Yeah

Im using Archon Continuity with Toxin/Blast modded onto Dex Pixia and 3 Tau Durations so 200% Duration maximum

[green delta]

if u have archon continuity and toxin on dex pixia then u can proc corrosive aswell

ye u dont rlly need the pillage then surely

[mighty panther]

wtf is ur username

[green delta]

dw abt that

[strong field]

A username of all time

[sand stirrup]

Its mainly for Shield Gating

[green delta]

if u want to thats fine ig

i just use here 1 to shield gate

[sand stirrup]

I will have to Forma her eventually to add a Zenurik Polarity for Brief Respite I just havent gotten around to it yet

This is the best way for me to shield gate atm until I either slot in Brief Respite or max out Arcane Aegis

Or both idk, Still a work in progress

I assume I wont need both though, feels a bit overkill

[strong field]

Can you not use secondary fortifier on your uhhh uhhhh dual pistols

It's an option

[sand stirrup]

Thats true, Im using Enervate atm for the damage but I could test that out

[narrow badge]

archon hunts and temporals giving me nothing but reds 😭

[sand stirrup]

Archon Hunts rotate weekly

So next week it wont be Red

[narrow badge]

dang that means everytime I decide to do them, red is on rotation

[leaden obsidian]

Techfrog engorf

[tired nova]

Km gonna have to cave and get mesa prime I think

Need a good nuke

How much do they usally go for?

[lofty garden]

If you run archon hunt every week, you'll get a different color each week.

Should run it every week...

[leaden obsidian]

What for

Like nuking in the granum crown, eso, normal missions?

[tired nova]

Need a good nuke and my mag isn't cutting it for high level

And most nuke frames are really boring

[leaden obsidian]

Isn’t mesa gonna be as boring?

[ivory shuttle]

I want the helminth segment so bad bro

[summer temple]

Get it

[ivory shuttle]

I can’t

[summer temple]

Sure you can, everyone can

[lofty garden]

So get it?

[ivory shuttle]

I don’t have enough standing for associate

[lofty garden]

Doesn’t take that long.

go stockpile standing in the form of mom tokens. only 7h45min to reset

[ivory shuttle]

I need to wait till tmrw to get standing again

[summer temple]

You'll get it eventually
Rank 3 takes so little

[marsh linden]

Yeah but you can stockpile the tokens beforehand

[ivory shuttle]

Oh right

[lofty garden]

I just said that!

[lusty bough]

which one is better?

[summer temple]

beams love MS so most likely right

you want a negative tho

[lusty bough]

yea been looking for it

[leaden obsidian]

Cc cd ms probably gonna be the roll you want, maybe somethin like -mag

[robust hazel]

i finally got a coda that isnt Drillbit or Harddrive!!!

[fair flame]

Chain Beams all so love punch though

[fair flame]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-why-hes-the-goat-the-goat-bigfellerjake-skippe-space-i-think-gif-26908844

[gleaming flume]

Question what is the node where people usually play to level up things?

[leaden obsidian]

SO/ESO/hydron

[fair flame]

Defence node sedna otherwise it's samaris sanctuary

[gleaming flume]

Ah thanks

[summer temple]

SO/ESO/Adaro/plains of eidolon/elara

[sullen mauve]

I'm so freaking love this Incarnon

[summer temple]

Yeah, I really like it too

[fair flame]

Cool part about it is you can both crit or status or hybrid thanks to it's perks

[cold vale]

Should I sell all of my ayatan things for endo?

[lyric drum]

guys, best place for archwing xp?

[vapid vessel]

the sculptures with ayatan in it yes

dont sell the individual ayatan stars

[edgy scarab]

quick question lads, I died in a netracell mission, since I can't revive anymore, if I leave, do I lose my entry?

[fair flame]

you can do it again untell you finish the whole thing but ya have to start from level one

[edgy scarab]

gotcha, thanks <3

[pearl parcel]

big

deathloop is free on the epic games launcher

[balmy wraith]

...which riven stats does fulmin benefit from?? in general.

[crude wyvern]

this a good riven for saryn sobek build?

[summer temple]

eh

[slender aspen]

I don't see why it wouldn't be

[knotty vessel]

which one is this ?

which gun ?

[summer temple]

Onos

Name is bottom right

[knotty vessel]

oh right

i forgot this gun exists

[lyric drum]

for latron incarnon, whats better? prime or wraith?

i got wraith

[sly onyx]

Prime

[sudden tendon]

Pretty similar but i think primes a lil better

[lyric drum]

prime is 90p per set

only got 1 piece so...

[sly onyx]

Just use wraith then

[lyric drum]

here, what is good?

talking about incarnons

[summer temple]

All of them are solid

[sly onyx]

Latron, Furis are top ones

[lyric drum]

i was interested in latron

and heard good stuff about furis as well

[sly onyx]

Idk about strun but I heard it’s good

[summer temple]

I've only tried the guns, and all 3 are great

[boreal pier]

ye all solid

[sudden tendon]

Furis than latron then strun then bo

[fathom cipher]

furis is best secondary in game imo, then latron and strun are also really good weapons

id say furis then latron

then strun and bo the next time it comes

[minor elbow]

slam doesnt gain or lose range from negative or positive range from the range mods right?

[green delta]

Ye its unaffected

[minor elbow]

nice

[green delta]

Soon to be nerfed tho😢

[worthy wagon]

What are some mods/warframes that can help with shield gating?

[fathom cipher]

mods can be like shield recharge mods, catalyzing shields, brief respite aura, and some augur mods

[worthy wagon]

Ok,

Is Nezha good?

[high rock]

So, not having any incarnons, Latron and Furis are the 2 to get?

[fathom cipher]

<@&778745217037238293>

[fathom cipher]

yes

[fathom cipher]

nezha is a great frame. he also has a damage reduction ability if u want that

thanks minion

[leaden obsidian]

Do I wanna ask

[wheat mirage]

Is there a difference in crate spawns between Steel Path and Star Chart?

[fathom cipher]

nah it was just a bunch of pictures of a like money scam thingy lol

[leaden obsidian]

Ah

[little pulsar]

anyone got frost nuke and defense build

without archon shards

[worthy wagon]

#builds-discussion

Are any of the incarnons good?

[kindred island]

I GOT A SECOND RESOURCE BOOSTER I LOGGED IN THIS MORNING AND GOT ONE TOO WTH?!?

Ah wrong chat.

Still works

[fathom cipher]

furis, latron, strun, and bo incarnon are all really really good weapons

[worthy wagon]

With the normal versions or prime?

[fathom cipher]

furis only has normal version, latron, strun and bo have primes

[wanton jackal]

is there really someone selling gauss prime set for 1 plat?

[pseudo forge]

possibly, but probably not

[restive warren]

[pliant trench]

i finally found my true arsenal, yareli + aqua blade + kompressa

the amount of waiting of not build kompressa for prime totally worth it

fyi my kdrive rank still not maxed lol

[quasi marsh]

How strong is EDA legacyte?

[pliant trench]

ETA?

not really strong just bonk of hp

[sudden tendon]

Damage attenuation enemy again

[eager obsidian]

that assassinate modifier was kinda fun

[maiden granite]

Evenin y’all

[pliant trench]

ey morning

[maiden granite]

Lol

An crap I forgot to put my Yareli to build few days ago

Dang it

[lofty merlin]

Hey are we getting any new information or anything involving Pazul

[pseudo forge]

not that is currently known of

[gloomy fog]

🤣 🤣

[pearl parcel]

hi luna, i think i just bullied an invader into killing herself just ot get away from me

im playing deathloop, i got invaded by juliana, as it sometimes goes
i spot her and start spamming poisonous bullets that make a poison cloud and using blink to go to odd angles

she just stands still and dies

[fathom cipher]

evening

[fathom cipher]

u gotta try kompressa with xata whisper its so good

[fathom cipher]

true dedication

[solar halo]

Missed opportunity to have xata or nourish instead of 2

[gloomy fog]

[strong field]

Is that nova

[robust hazel]

can someone tell me what i did wrong in ETA

i went in with harrow, all personal modifiers, but now its trying to tell me i need to beat elite with a frame, weapon, secondary, and melee again with all those same modifiers to qualify for 37?

[opal knot]

What's currently the best Sparring weapon in game?

[storm vapor]

i don't know about the best

i know coda hirudo is at least ok

[narrow badge]

I'm somewhat of a coda hirudo enjoyer myself

too broke for the exilus slot though

If I had it I'd put discipline's merit on it

Actually nah, Dreamer's Wrath

Kogake Prime has highest base damage, but Coda Hirudo has the highest base crit chance and crit damage out of the sparring weapons + puncture for more crit

[pearl parcel]

oi <@&778745217037238293> another scam here

[storm vapor]

they've done it in general and lore discussion too, probably other channels as well

thank you mighty mods

[hollow sparrow]

✂️

[pearl parcel]

thanks mac

[untold estuary]

What are sparring weapons?

[fathom cipher]

like the fist weapons n stuff. the punchy ones

[untold estuary]

OHHH

ty :)

[narrow badge]

rather, they're fist and feet paddings. Fists are a category of their own with different stances from sparring. Sparring is more Eastern martial arts adjacent, while fists are more like Boxing, Pankration, and just straight up slugging.

[untold estuary]

Ty for the unneccessary but welcome additional information, this is not sarcasm, i just have no other way of communicating my appreciation

[pliant trench]

ur welcome

[strong field]

Well I can check baruuk prime & nidus prime off my list

[gleaming flume]

Ok i have questions for koumei

First, who do you calculate the damage for her kumihimo?

[strong field]

What do you mean who

[harsh geode]

Does multishot work on grimoire?

[strong field]

I mean why not

[gleaming flume]

-_- my fat fingers typed in who i mean how

[strong field]

It works on pretty much anything that's not using acuity

But if you asked if it works on noctua then the answer wouldve been yes and no

[viscid canopy]

Does Gear Embargo in this weeks ETA kill the Necramech sticker?

[strong field]

Oh okay. Isn't it simple though? Just multiply whatever value you see on your ability description with the number of total dice rolls you rolled

So it's not always a fixed number

[harsh geode]

Thnks

[gleaming flume]

Damn that's kinda smol damage to think, but thanks

[strong field]

It's also multiplied again with ability strength stat and buffs like roar. But yeah it's not a good ability to do dps

[gleaming flume]

Ok got it

[pliant trench]

harrow chasis

[pearl parcel]

hows it lovisa

ive been bullying invaders in deathloop

[placid turtle]

Have you tried invading yet?

One run I just joined them and killed the targets for them

[pearl parcel]

i dont much like bothering people what dont want bothered, but im more than willing to violently de-atomize someone what wants to bother me

thats why i got the HALP

[placid turtle]

Tbf if they don't wanna be bothered they don't necessarily need to play online

[pearl parcel]

people are easier to kill than the AI, they're more predictable

they charge hte first sound of gunfire and fall for any trap

plus they give better weapons

[pearl parcel]

besides im a shameless casual and i love ruining hte plans of invaders

they want to end my loop so badly? avoid the violent de-atomizing ray

[opal knot]

What do you think is the best built in element for this Coda weapon?

[restive warren]

Rich 💸 💸

[slim crystal]

Anyone having problems w creating a session?

[summer temple]

coda weapon element recommendation
mag for every* gun, basso can elec
elec for every* melee, motovore can imp and mire uses heat

[opal knot]

Coda Hirudo?

[sudden tendon]

Elec

For melee influence specifically

[summer temple]

I mean
I sent you the thing

[opal knot]

Oh ok. Sorry. Im goddang blind XD

[verbal coyote]

once you get valence element change, the only thing that matters is the number

[summer temple]

Happens

[summer temple]

Even that doesn't REALLY matter tbh

[verbal coyote]

trust me it does when you get a 25.2% like me and now have to fuse 9 hemas to get it to 60%

[summer temple]

No like

The actual % doesn't make that big of a difference in damage

The correct element matters more

[verbal coyote]

ehhh its still a difference of 30% in damage-ish, you just need 5 formas, which is much more manageable than farming coda liches 9 times

[limpid viper]

seriously, wtf is the last mission on this week's ETA?

the game is like... moments away from completely jumping the shark

just absolute unfun degeneracy of a mess of modifiers

[verbal coyote]

i dont play ETA/EDA anymore. whats the point even

[limpid viper]

another week of this garbage and I might be taking another extended hiatus, wtf DE?

[sudden tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-mind-stone-last-stone-infinity-gauntlet-gif-15735729

[limpid viper]

you're really in danger as a dev when boring and unfun stuff becomes the norm and emblematic of "endgame"

[verbal coyote]

you do a difficult mission and sweat your way to get what? some meh arcanes and archon shards?

[limpid viper]

yeah, the rewards aren't really worth the effort, and on top of that, you have little to no control or agency in comparison to the "challenge"

[verbal coyote]

exactly.

[limpid viper]

get loadouts that are innately incompatible with the "challenge"? tough luck.

[verbal coyote]

end game rewards better be "this changes everything i have in my loadout and how i play"

[limpid viper]

it's just... wtf man?

[summer temple]

Both are good rewards tbh

[verbal coyote]

nope

[strong field]

I was hoping ETA would give me the cure to cancer as a reward

[verbal coyote]

i rather just stick with energize and augmented

[summer temple]

One is literally limited to a few per week
And the arcanes are solid

[limpid viper]

surely the challenge isn't supposed to come down to either getting lucky loading into the mission getting matched with players with actual loadouts, or you having that loadout?

[summer temple]

You're guaranteed something you own mate

[limpid viper]

yeah, of course, but not all weapons or warframes are crated equal

[sudden tendon]

When the game gets as unbalanced as this, this is the only way to make anything remotely difficult

[summer temple]

If you own unmodded/unbuilt stuff, it's gonna give them to you eventually

[strong field]

So the best solution is to only own revenant torid furis magistar

[limpid viper]

the vast majority of weapons are absolutely useless (let's be honest) in the majority of higher-level content

[summer temple]

Every frame is good enough for all relevant content

[sudden tendon]

Frfr

[summer temple]

Not really??

[limpid viper]

that's a ridiculous statement

[strong field]

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-sometimes-my-genius-almost-frightening-driving-car-ride-gif-16463163

[summer temple]

That is an objectively true statement

ED/TA is the hardest relevant content and any frame can run it

Are some better? Yes
Is any objectively bad? No

[limpid viper]

a million gas/toxin procs a second at the tail-end of the last ETA mission this week, but yeah, surely the health-gating frames and Hildryn are fine, surely

[summer temple]

Health gating??

[limpid viper]

health-tanking*

[summer temple]

Hildryn
Health tank

[verbal coyote]

inaros with the augment :)

[limpid viper]

health-gating SHOULD be a thing, and is probably a part of the solution to this problem, lol

[summer temple]

Are we playing the same game

[summer temple]

I mean nidus exists

[limpid viper]

so you're just arguing in bad faith, aight

[verbal coyote]

nidus is technically just resource gating

[summer temple]

I guess

[verbal coyote]

only inaros is true health gating, the rest is just larping

[summer temple]

No, I'm currently confused as to your idea of hildryn

[sudden tendon]

Not too sure how thatd work

[summer temple]

As for how to survive toxin? Vazarin

[summer temple]

I guess like oneshot protection in ror2?

If you're full hp and get hit for over 90%, you take 90%

[sudden tendon]

Sure i guess that works

[verbal coyote]

Negation Armor on inaros should just be extended to everyone

Negation Armor is a Warframe Augment Mod for Inaros that sacrifices an active Scarab Shell to prevent Inaros from entering Bleedout, but receives a Slash status effect once its invulnerability period expires.

[limpid viper]

I mean, at a certain point, if you gotta spam operator stuff to survive and to play the game remotely effectively, things NEED to be more responsive and faster

[sudden tendon]

I dunno what that is

[sudden tendon]

Oh thanks lol

[summer temple]

I genuinely have no idea what he does
I haven't played him since he was bad lol

[limpid viper]

honestly, I think the game just isn't snappy enough for this kind of "challenging" design

especially if you're not hosting

[verbal coyote]

Upon activating, Inaros will heal 90% of his Health and become invulnerable for 3 seconds. Once the invulnerability ends, he receives a Slash proc that deals ~20% of his max health per tick, necessitating the need of healing and other invulnerability sources to survive.

health gating.

[sudden tendon]

Hol up didnt u say that no warframe is bad

[summer temple]

Some frames had no other option for a good while lol

[summer temple]

He got reworked

[limpid viper]

if you're not hosting a higher level mission, a lot of the time, you might as well be watching a one-shot slideshow

[sudden tendon]

Ah ic

[summer temple]

I haven't played him since I leveled him up, cause he used to be genuinely the worst character in the game

[sudden tendon]

Who tf are u queuing with

[summer temple]

He did nothing but sit pretty with a lot of hp
And that hp didn't mean much

[sudden tendon]

Id done lv cap at 400 ping and i was doing alright

[limpid viper]

I mean, I'm in Sweden, most people seem to be from North/South America and other far-away places

can't really control who I get matched with, you know?

nothing wrong with my connection, it's literally the fastest/best you can get on this planet, lol

[sudden tendon]

U can change the amount of ping u get matched with in settings

[summer temple]

Yet ping limit to low and you'll get matched with EU more

I'm almost always with eu people

[limpid viper]

yeah, problem is that there's no EU people playing, lol

[summer temple]

Well it's 9am mate

People got work/school

[limpid viper]

ofc, but it's not just around these hours

[summer temple]

I'm sitting in a library studying

[summer temple]

Idk, during peak hours, there's a bunch of people

[limpid viper]

anyway, that doesn't really hand-wave away the fact that the game just isn't solid enough for how quickly you die

[summer temple]

I'm not sure what you mean by that

[limpid viper]

the game just isn't responsive/snappy enough for how fast you're expected to react to threats that incapacitate you

switching to operator or casting an ability to cover a shield gate just isn't "fast" enough

[summer temple]

I'm hesitant to agree

Operator is literally instant???

[limpid viper]

depends on if you're hosting or not, I guess, lol

I've switched and died while in operator form more times than I can count, lol

[summer temple]

Even when client, operator is absolutely fast enough lmao

[limpid viper]

just rubber-banding abound

[summer temple]

I can count it on my fingers lmao

That's some bad host connections

[limpid viper]

yeah, and that's my point

[summer temple]

Drop ping limit and you'll be host more

[limpid viper]

you can't design everything around these paradigms if the framework just ain't solid enough

[summer temple]

And have better hosts when client

[limpid viper]

what'll probably actually happen is, I sit for an hour trying to find people (who still lag, because there's no way to tell how far away people are when LFGing), because I can't get matched with anyone because the ping is too high, lol

funniest thing is when you host and there's a migration because someone is in Australia or something

[summer temple]

I've never had issues finding a squad lmao

But to be fair, I don't really play EDTA MUCH

[limpid viper]

idk what to tell you, maybe I've been playing a different game for 3k hours, lol

[sudden tendon]

Yeah finding people is rough if ur not doing it day of reset

[limpid viper]

well, I've been doing both every week since they were introduced

and it's a terrible experience more often than not

[summer temple]

I wasn't r5 when EDA dropped cause there was no reason to
And I just never bothered lmao

[limpid viper]

and that's with me having 95% of all builds kitted out

[sudden tendon]

For me its either fun or kinda annoying

[limpid viper]

yeah, I guess it depends

when it's "fun", it's usually me "carrying" because I'm the only one who got anything useful

but even then it's not really fun, because I've gotta do everything anyway

and annoying has a big span, either being slightly annoying to this week's assassination in ETA

[sudden tendon]

I usually just find disruption fun lol

[limpid viper]

disruption is probably the most fun mode in the game, tbh

[summer temple]

I only did TA once last week
Wasn't fun cause I did 1 pub, people sucked
Then friends only and my friend wasn't up to snuff either 😭

[summer temple]

Disruption, alchemy and cascade are some of my faves

[sudden tendon]

I like cascade more but disruption is prob second

[limpid viper]

Void cascade can be fun, but less fun when there's too much backtracking or new nodes spawn too far away

especially later on, it just becomes a constant running

[summer temple]

I also like spy, which I know is a hot take

[limpid viper]

alchemy is alright as well, which is kinda telling because it's basically survival without the urgency

[sudden tendon]

If u have a semi decent squad u wont need to do that

[summer temple]

It's survival, but with an actual objective

[limpid viper]

yeah, I know, but people aren't really capable, lol

[summer temple]

Survival on it's own is giga boring IMO

[sudden tendon]

Theres a cascade discord and in game lfg groups are usually fine if u know how to attack and they just defend

[limpid viper]

yeah, survival is very old, and it does show its age

wait a minute... can you farm pix chips with the peely pix that give them?

[sudden tendon]

I used to like it when i didnt blow up entire rooms

[sudden tendon]

Not farmable

[limpid viper]

as in, can you do 2 missions with 2 peely pix, get the chips, then "fail" the 3rd one, and redo them and get 2 more?

[sudden tendon]

Pretty sure

[limpid viper]

man, that's lame

[sudden tendon]

Hotshot prices would be way cheaper pretty sure

[limpid viper]

why don't they get unequipped after you've cleared the missions then? lol

[summer temple]

I hated it when I started
Then didn't mind it for a bit
Then started hating again when my builds made it boring

[limpid viper]

or do you have to clear the whole run to get the reward?

[sudden tendon]

Oh yeah i hated them at the start too cause there was no speeding up the mission when completing star chart

[sudden tendon]

Not too sure ngl

[limpid viper]

all survival missions should have a speed up mechanic like the entrati labs ones

the EDA missions, I mean

[sudden tendon]

Yeah its nice until the leech eximus pops up

[pliant trench]

u mean endurance or the survival specifically?

[summer temple]

That's why I hate them now
I hated them when I was new cause I couldn't kill fast enough to not run out of life support lmao

[sudden tendon]

Got it twice ina row last week or two :)

[summer temple]

So real

[sudden tendon]

Ah ic

[limpid viper]

hmm, I mean, maybe both?

[pliant trench]

luck to be failed is top tier

[limpid viper]

lower rotation window by killing a dude

faster farming with effort

at least it'd make survival a little bit more engaging

[summer temple]

My favorite mechanic

[pliant trench]

true

[limpid viper]

I know people have been asking for level cap endurance for ages, but the reasoning to why it isn't in the game is kinda sound

don't want all the farmer goons stuck perpetually out of the reach of the general public, I guess

[summer temple]

Level cap is for the 1% of psychos who don't get bored sitting in one mission for 10 hours

[limpid viper]

there should probably be a way to ratchet up the scaling to ludicrous level outside of e.g. cascade etc

after an hour in cascade, the level is like... what?

[summer temple]

Platinum path

[summer temple]

4 digits easily

[limpid viper]

yeah, probably around 1000-1200 or something, at least?

[summer temple]

Cascade and circuit are the fastest scaling

[sudden tendon]

Its def not 1% since when a omnia cascade shows up recruiting chat is always full of people lfging

[limpid viper]

yeah, but do they run for more than 1-2 hours?

if even that? they probably do like 20-40 mins, max

[summer temple]

Ye, but I feel like most sit for an hour or 2

[summer temple]

I'm this gang

[sudden tendon]

8000-9999 non fissure around 3000-4000 in fissure i think

[limpid viper]

honestly, me too. I'm too old and too busy to play more than 2-3 hours a day now, max

[sudden tendon]

Yeah def think there should be some faster scaling method

Think that too many people would complain tho unfortunately

[limpid viper]

couple that with the fact that people who do that type of stuff generally don't even need the rewards

yeah, if they introduced an optional (e.g. click a thing in mission, do a thing, raises level by say 100 or so), newer players would struggle and have an awful time

[pliant trench]

nice the only left to do this week is 1999 challenge

[limpid viper]

if it was a separate choice over steel path, they'd have an awful time because nobody would be in any regular mission

[pliant trench]

3 times failed ETA, worst roll this week

[limpid viper]

yeah, it's pretty terrible

[sudden tendon]

Yeah playerbase would be too divided

[limpid viper]

you could probably argue it already is, and with every new thing they introduce, it divides further

[sudden tendon]

Well for fissures u can pretty easily get a full squad

[limpid viper]

yeah, overall, the switch to fissures was 100% the right choice

[pliant trench]

the only thing i argue rn it more content to be suck into duviri..
haaaaaaa~~

[limpid viper]

I remember the olden days, it was kinda terrible

[pliant trench]

i can manage if it only circuit but duviri specifically, wish we had other method to farm pathos clamp

[limpid viper]

if they want people into Duviri, they need to stick Pathos clamps on the circuit

[summer temple]

Can't wait for isleweaver

[summer temple]

I feel like that defeats the point

[pliant trench]

spider mommy, mhmm

[limpid viper]

I farmed out all the incarnons, which is kind of psycho

now I've gotta do like... 50 duviri runs or something

[sudden tendon]

Gg buddy

[summer temple]

Isleweaver having a main duviri gamemode
With warframes
For clamps
That's a solid start for now

[pliant trench]

i still have few genesis missing to slot, since lack of clamp

[limpid viper]

not really fun when it's the same thing on repeat for a VERY long time

[pliant trench]

not to mention no gear usage

[summer temple]

Which the devs recognized and are making a new one

[pliant trench]

the damn excav really piss me off

[limpid viper]

yeah, I'm happy that Isleweaver is happening, but feels a little late, tbh

[summer temple]

I like it cause it's the only time I ever get cryotic nowadays

[pliant trench]

like u are 3 more round to max then circuit lvl cap hit the excav like it a freaking dust metal

[limpid viper]

I have over 250k cryotic, lol

[summer temple]

I mean, it takes time to develop AFTER they took time to notice the issue lol

[limpid viper]

and that's with all cryotic things built

[summer temple]

Ye, you also have triple my hours played

[limpid viper]

I originally started on xbox, then started over on pc, and then merged the accounts

hence the ridiculous amount

what is that... at least 100 hours of continous excavation? lol

just the excavators alone

[pliant trench]

had to start from 0 back and the time it took for round 1 to round 6 is like forever,
either i bad rolls arsenal and bad decree luck

[summer temple]

I'm like 2k short off the funny ice hammer
Then need 10k for the dumb grineer shotgun secondaries cause I was an idiot and sold them

[sudden tendon]

._.

[summer temple]

Bro REALLY likes excavation

But I can't judge, my most played missions include lua spy

[limpid viper]

Hieracon used to be one of the things, let's just say that

[red vale]

I want to buy rivens but I don’t see sellers online on wf market or wf

[pliant trench]

did ya try trade chat?

worst is the price might reach 3 digits

unless ur bargain skill is top notch

to scam the scammer

[red vale]

lol I will scam people before they scam me

[pliant trench]

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-nervous-wreck-gif-12986085083782148824

[narrow badge]

Dang he's doing one of those scammer gets scammed fortnite videos from like almost a decade ago

[fathom cipher]

scammer get scammed

[red vale]

I was joking Iam bargaining trash rivens

[pliant trench]

another man trash is another man treasure

[narrow badge]

That is very true

[pliant trench]

just dont make it sound u desperate, they can feel it

[narrow badge]

I just pull up with the "I was lazy" act

They'll never know of my desperation frfr

I want Kullervo to get his prime so bad. I absolutely would not mind if they skipped Caliban and the others leading up to Kullervo because the Apostate skin is 🔥

[summer temple]

Just use regular kullervo?
His prime isn't coming for like another year

[fathom cipher]

thats why he wants it bad

[pliant trench]

imma said 2027 his prime release

[summer temple]

Who's in line before
Caliban, voruna, gyre, anyone else?

[strong field]

Primes are overrated

[pliant trench]

citrine then kullervo

i just take release date of kullervo, state it 2023, so should take 4 years .ish to get prime version

[summer temple]

Right, so about a year and 3 months ish until him
A year at the very least

Depends on if they do mmff order or whatever

[pliant trench]

no more lavos accident

[pliant trench]

heirloom underrated af, just sad the male version isnt "nakew" as much the female

[summer temple]

We forgot styanax, so a year and 3 months, up to year and a half

[fathom cipher]

u like one of 6 peopel that use non primes

[narrow badge]

Rhino Heirloom Venom cake

[summer temple]

So late '26 to early '27

[strong field]

And im also the only chirpy here too. Literally one in 8 billion

[summer temple]

You'd be surprised
Primes are damn near identical to base frames with like 3 exceptions

[strong field]

🤯

[fathom cipher]

real u just the goat

[pliant trench]

either way i rn need the spider mommy prime for some reason ROFL

too bad her prime be release 2028 TxT

[summer temple]

And that third one isn't even relevant for most people tbh

[pliant trench]

as long the tennogen skin have that prime toggle i fine farm and use my "own" money

[sly onyx]

They gotta make primes have more than just better base stats and different fashion

[fathom cipher]

im with a useless squad rn LMFAO i had to do both deacon keys

[sudden tendon]

Primes are just a new skin most of the time lol

[sly onyx]

Yeah

[summer temple]

Like only 3 have noticeably better stats
Biggest improvement is extra polarities

[sly onyx]

I forgot about the extra polarities

[pliant trench]

the only prime have downfall is mesa, her exalted guns specifically, less FR than vanilla version

[summer temple]

Only slightly tho iirc

[pliant trench]

but her fashion is lit

so i take the downfall anytime

[fathom cipher]

@strong field seeeeee

[summer temple]

Real

[sudden tendon]

Pretty sure its like double

[summer temple]

Only prime that's worse is mesa
Only ones that are better are volt, garuda and MAYBE sevagoth
For the rest it doesn't matter

[fathom cipher]

yeah

[narrow badge]

I just went to B for mine bc I saw everyone else beeline to A so I just nuked my deacon and sat at the door for like 3 minutes for the 3 to kill theirs

[pliant trench]

i mean we got two gauntlet can increase FR, so who need melee when use mesa?

[sudden tendon]

Voruna when she gets her prime

[fathom cipher]

i was just tellin chirpy a bit ago that the fire rate is better on default regulators lol

[sudden tendon]

And excal too cause im pretty sure he also cant hit the 500 energy threshold

[summer temple]

Excal prime isn't worth mentioning and umbra is worse

[pliant trench]

nah i bet it be qorvex, since vanilla is brick theme rn, imagine prime, ingot theme rofl

[sly onyx]

Umbra is worse than base cus the stupid passive

[sudden tendon]

Yep

[summer temple]

Cause DE refuses to fix it
They just slapped on a bandaid

[narrow badge]

The biggest advantage Mesa Prime's regulators has over base are the fact they look like normal guns and not caulk guns

[sly onyx]

Yeah warriors rest lol

[sudden tendon]

Im praying everyday for a qorvex buff

[sudden tendon]

They remind me of spare rations from d2

[sudden tendon]

Thats like every ability istg

Look at equinox

[narrow badge]

Can't understand the comparison bc I never kept any interest after D1

Which I didn't play much either

[pliant trench]

play the mobile version, rather interest u many more than current D2

[summer temple]

Ok, 2 bandaids lol

[strong field]

I thought mesa prime guns have identical stats to normal mesa guns. Iirc the only frame whose prime variant has an exalted with better stats is garuda

[shell zenith]

do yall have any general tips on how to organize your task priorities as a beginner or veteran?

[narrow badge]

My phone would probably explode

[sly onyx]

What’s the other one

[summer temple]

And sevagoth

[strong field]

Is that so. I never paid attention to sevy

[summer temple]

His passive turned off his 4
So instead of fixing it, they made him recast as you get back in

[pliant trench]

compare non-modded between prime and vanilla, only the FR the others stat is slightly better than vanilla

[sly onyx]

Oh

[summer temple]

Most people just nuke with him anyway

[strong field]

I just let him rot in my foundry lmao

[summer temple]

And garuda also gets like 150 more energy on prime, so that's notable too

[shell zenith]

idk whether to prio finishing star chart, or the storyline, or finish circuit, or get plat for an extra warframe slot for nezha

[pliant trench]

as for garuda, i not aware, i mean i rather use venka haha, sori

[fathom cipher]

go finish star chart and ur missions first

[daring parrot]

make your end goal atm just finishing the main story quests

what are you on rn?

[summer temple]

Star chart and quests tbh

[narrow badge]

I think the only base frame I didn't level and immediately toss into the wall is Dante because he just prints overguard so I just play him to be lazy

[summer temple]

Pretty sure garuda prime claws beat venka

[summer temple]

I play a lot of the recent non primes

[sly onyx]

Star chart is top priority

[pliant trench]

beat me, never use the talons since i use venka lol

[shell zenith]

I finished the zariman quest

[fathom cipher]

i find that i like weapon platforms the most soooo a lot of newer ones i dont really play

[summer temple]

Voruna super fun
I played yareli until recently
Citrine is fun

[strong field]

The wiki says they have the same identical stats but personally i never cared to check

[summer temple]

Cyte 09 moment

[fathom cipher]

not cyte 😭 i dont like that sniper ngl

[pliant trench]

waiting another claw theme incarnon

[summer temple]

Ye, I believe prime being slower is a bug or something

[narrow badge]

I mean they dont have primes, and they're kinda goated like Gyre

[fathom cipher]

i just wanna go and blow everyone up

[summer temple]

Sobek acid shells works

[pliant trench]

are yer sure, the in game said otherwise

[fathom cipher]

that works yeah

[daring parrot]

finish the hex then go back and work on unlocking frames/weapons/mods you want while trying to finish the star chart

[strong field]

Bugframe is a feature atp

[shell zenith]

whats the hex

[summer temple]

Very well