gameplay-discussion

[frail tree]

I thought its ability is a single target viral thing

[fathom cipher]

i dont have a panzer ngl but isnt it the thing with quills?

[sudden tendon]

no its aoe

[frail tree]

whats a spore?

[lyric drum]

do they give extra masterie like a new weapon?

[sudden tendon]

huh i actually dont know

lemme check the wiki rq

oh its like saryn spores

[frail tree]

what do saryn spores do

[frail tree]

oh... so its like

if one dude has a spore, everyone around him is affected by spores too?

[pearl parcel]

hey ashe, want to see a musket skeleton

[frail tree]

dude, do you have a crush on me or something?

[sudden tendon]

i think?

[placid quartz]

I do

[pearl parcel]

no i've asked like 5 people today, and i've got a girlfriend

[placid quartz]

What’s a musket skeleton

[frail tree]

this better be good

[pearl parcel]

his name is arthur, he's a cleric

he's fixing bayonet

[frail tree]

oh! its actually not a joke

[placid quartz]

Amazing

[frail tree]

thats a cool musket skeleton

thanks for sharing, very cool

[placid quartz]

What did you think he was talking about?

[pearl parcel]

no he's a dnd character, his name is Arthur Coll, he's a grave cleric with a musket

[frail tree]

idk I thought I was getting punked

[placid quartz]

Mm

[frail tree]

peak

[pearl parcel]

i got concrete too if you want to see him

[hexed grail]

Anything I should change for this daytime only equinox build? (Arcane consequence is qol)

[red vale]

alert coming back for the tokkat

[red vale]

#builds-discussion

[hexed grail]

They never answer me there they just ask about their own thing

[jade sleet]

[fathom cipher]

are u using melee for the daytime?

to charge the 4 at least

also wouldnt u want more duration for pillage? pillage range is based off duration

[leaden obsidian]

Lower duration, faster it comes bacj(even tho you can tap it again and have it come back)

[pearl parcel]

hey big, i made musket skeleton a friend

[leaden obsidian]

Nice

[pearl parcel]

Arthur and Weave

[leaden obsidian]

Nice

[tender perch]

Burston Incarnon is so yummy.

[lofty spire]

Left or right?

[sudden tendon]

right

[fathom cipher]

right

[lofty spire]

isn’t -projectile speed bad on beam weapons tho?

[fathom cipher]

the stats on that riv are insane tho

u can mod over proj speed as well i think

[lofty spire]

mmh

[devout burrow]

galv. acceleration exists

[lofty spire]

alr

[vale prism]

"damage" isnt great but rest is rlly good

[vale prism]

also this

[tender perch]

Omg Crispy
My only friend

[fathom cipher]

hi

[vale prism]

isnt this an exilus too

[tender perch]

I thought you died

[fathom cipher]

nah its a main mod i think

[tender perch]

I was so sad
(I was gonna take your account)

[lofty spire]

Exilus

[fathom cipher]

oh shotgun i forgot

[lofty spire]

ngl

i need a maxxed galv accel

I’m too poor on credits

[vale prism]

do u have dante

[lofty spire]

nah💀

[tender perch]

Why even play the game then

[lofty spire]

people are at different stages in the game dawg

[tender perch]

Fym you don't have the best warframe in tbe game.
Just uninstall at that point

Amateurs smh

[lofty spire]

L hater

[tender perch]

Skill issue

[vale prism]

i would offer to do index farm cause i built titania for it and havnt use the build since the last credit booster weekend happened at the same time as me building titania and i leeched 170mil creds from pt 😔

[tender perch]

Mf don't even have Dante smh

Imagine

[vale prism]

fair dante is a pretty easy farm

[lofty spire]

I got an abomination if that means anything 😭

[tender perch]

Not good enough, just uninstall

[vale prism]

just play

[tender perch]

Just uninstall

[vale prism]

the SP disruptiion node

and u get the frame ez

also onos and ruvox are pgood imo

[tender perch]

Hate that node. It looks so pretty but you can't armor strip the mechs

[vale prism]

more damage

[tender perch]

Nuh uh. Yucky.

[vale prism]

MORE DAMAGE!

[tender perch]

I live for peeling back thag orange hp bar to see GLORIOUS HOT PINK/RED

[vale prism]

MORE DAMAGE!!!

[tender perch]

It's what fuels me

[vale prism]

i prefer when things go from existing to not existing

promptly

[tender perch]

That usually tends to happen AFTER I Chernobyl their armor or shields away

[vale prism]

too much effort

[tender perch]

Nuh uh

Yummers

[vale prism]

yuh

[lofty spire]

Overframe is overrated 😭

[vale prism]

its ok for build planning

[lofty spire]

real

[vale prism]

when u arent using any mods released in the last 12 months

[devout burrow]

overframe currently is the only site to comfortably share builds with

without having to open the game

[vale prism]

companion app exists technically but the layout kinda sucks

[tender perch]

People post real builds on that site? I thought it was just one big ragebait

[wheat mirage]

Why do people say that Secondary Enervate is a flat crit buff even though it’s effect rapidly ramps up and resets?

[devout burrow]

but you cant actively mod there, only share already existing builds no?

[devout burrow]

because the buff is a flat crit chance increase

[peak moth]

Is there anything other than op amps and abilities that make your amp stronger? Cause I'm doing like 30k vs my friend doing millions with the same amp

[tender perch]

Madurai school

[sudden tendon]

id think that fall under abilities

[peak moth]

Were both using it

[vale prism]

arcanes

[tender perch]

Oh my bad, missed it

[vale prism]

r u both 100% maxed madurai

[peak moth]

I'm not but I'm not missing anything pertaining to base shot dmg

[vale prism]

headshot multiplier

[tender perch]

Are both your madurai abilities maxed?

[devout burrow]

do you have eternal eradicate and eternal onslaught equipped

[tender perch]

Yeah, get Eradicate

[peak moth]

From were?

[pearl parcel]

hey bap, i gave musket skeleton a friend

[sudden tendon]

headshotting

[tender perch]

The head

[vale prism]

when u shoot thrax aim for the head

[pearl parcel]

Arthur and Weave

[vale prism]

also cant some warframe buffs apply to operator

[peak moth]

No I mean why does it multiple? Just per hit or is it a school thing

[vale prism]

r we playing the same game

[devout burrow]

volt shield, koumei decrees, jade dmg buff

[vale prism]

huh

[tender perch]

It's universal. But the multiplier combined with madurai is what gives that damage

And Eradicate

[peak moth]

OHHHHH NVM. Not that both hitting head

[sudden tendon]

headshots get a multiplier on most weapons

[vale prism]

can amp from octavia buff operator i forgor

[peak moth]

Not using abilities

[devout burrow]

not that I am aware of

[verbal coyote]

your friend likely targetted a thrax while its trying to possess a human-like, causing it to take 100x more damage

[vale prism]

eradicate and onslaught is what i use

[peak moth]

That's a thing? OK ig

[verbal coyote]

yep

[vale prism]

what are some primary/secondary weapons that pair well with gyre?

i plan to build them around their 3, 4, and augment 🤔

[tender perch]

THEN YOU'RE PLAYING THE GAME WRONG

SHAME ON YOU

[vale prism]

i know someone like this

they put PSF on gauss 😃

[peak moth]

Were testing dmg difference and he does way morr

[vale prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786650716436430939/1370458617970561155/image.png?ex=68262a0c&is=6824d88c&hm=de7de9a4649e41204f258c6c6090f3c077acefe21ebcc99a7d54512ca8360529&

[tender perch]

...say that again

[vale prism]

they refuse to press the 1-4 keys

[devout burrow]

well depending on the build not too bad

[vale prism]

im probably taking fury and shred on days 200 and 400

not gonna lie

actually useful mods

[tender perch]

calls you a slur

[vale prism]

we'll see when i get there, still a bit over 200 days away

ngl i rlly wanna play gyre and buy her skin now :/

but iont wanna rush the foundry time

[tender perch]

Her Prime is dropping real soon

[vale prism]

copium

[tender perch]

No, she is

She's either gonna be after Yareli or after Caliban

[verbal coyote]

PSF is good

[tender perch]

The schedule currently is
Yareli, Caliban, Gyre, Styanax

[vale prism]

i think that if i want to spam explosive guns ill just play a frame that has cc imunity baked into their kit

[tender perch]

But DE likes to do boy boy/girl girl so they might skip Caliban and bring us Gyre Prime

[verbal coyote]

nah its just overall, you dont need to dodge everything or get the random annoying knockdown

[tender perch]

Mf is allergic to the mod 😭

[tender perch]

Yeah I really like it. Still, it's okay if others don't. Don't try to force it

[vale prism]

idk id rather get 15% ability strength or range from my exilus slot

[devout burrow]

I personally dont get why people are so allergic to psf, just cause kmf memes it so much?

[vale prism]

also i dont play level cap all day every day so like

[devout burrow]

like its a legit good mod

[vale prism]

getting knocked down isnt a death sentance in the actual video game

[tender perch]

Nahhh it's actually super quality of life not having to worry about staggers and eximus

[tender perch]

True. Unless you're doing level cap, it doesn't really matter

Again, it's just quality of life

[vale prism]

kinetic plating and overgaurd 🙂

[tender perch]

Yeah but not every frame has those so

[vale prism]

i mean secondary fortifier exists but true

[tender perch]

I main a shield tank frame, bro. I could die 😭

[vale prism]

no arcane aegis? 🤨

[tender perch]

Too much investment over just- NOT putting a mod on bro

[tender perch]

Oh no, I have it on.

But again, PSF is great still lmao

You can get lifted by an acoloyte, knocked over by a eximus aura, grabbed by a scorpion, etc. Sometimes aigis doesn't proc and it could get you killed.

And it's all easily avoidable because I HAVE the luxury space to put it on so- I just put it on. Gg easy.

[icy dome]

Anyone have a good dojo?

[peak moth]

No

[tender perch]

Mines is kinda decked out

If I do say so myself 😎

[willow bluff]

Wow, non-PC players chatting
What a rare sight

[fathom cipher]

wowee

[willow bluff]

The only hype I have right now is to see the Simulor augment getting revealed in the next nightwave.

Then I'll have to wait a lot of days to get that augment to be able to test it...

Boring update next week

[rocky breach]

athodai hopium

[willow bluff]

Athodai is already revealed... and it's straightforward

I was headshotting before
I will headshot again

[rocky breach]

can just hope its got some good scaling

[tender perch]

Got nothing I'm really hyped for currently. Just happy that everyone else is excited for stuff.

[rocky breach]

at the moment its just vesper (gas scaling+ extra HS boost) and magnus (multiplicative acuity+augment still)

[tender perch]

Just waiting for Caliban Prime

[willow bluff]

You'll first get your first augment

[tender perch]

Yeah but it's not really one I'm too excited for

I don't even really use Razor Gyre, even if its pretty good

[willow bluff]

Isn't it something like "spam to stay alive forever"?

[rocky breach]

sadly i just play caliban as a ghetto version of yarelli

[willow bluff]

Like Styanax 4 with augment keeps spamming overguard gate and damages enemies

[tender perch]

Pretty much, but then once it's high level, it feels like you're ONLY spamming that one ability. So I don't fancy it much

[willow bluff]

Except caliban also regenerates energy

[willow bluff]

While styanax does that from his 3 and nourish

[tender perch]

I simply use shield regen mods with Lethal Progeny

[tender perch]

Nourish also works with Razor Gyre

Tbh both of their kits REALLY likes Nourish

[lofty spire]

I miss old caliban because beyblade

[tender perch]

Cause Caliban's sentients get the buff as well, making them do stupid damage

[willow bluff]

Also I wonder if Jat Kittag's vulcan blitz somehow react with Tau status primed enemies

[tender perch]

And Styanax gets the buff on his 4 and 3

[willow bluff]

I don't think Vulcan Blitz force procs blast by default

[lofty spire]

[tender perch]

They do a few things similar but lots of things differently

Tbh they only really have one similar ability

[somber widget]

I'm going to farm endo right now, necros/cora, I'm with boost!!!

[rocky breach]

its more that i just play them as passive tanks with the occasional castable CC, and random companions doing stuff (merulina augment / caliban summons)

just survivable platforms, so not very exciting

[willow bluff]

I wonder if caliban specter AI was updated
Earlier caliban specter was only casting Fusion Strike with 5s cooldown. Good armor strip support.

(or was it 8s cooldown?)

[tender perch]

Caliban specter is actually insane, now that I think about it

Armor strip, cc, and free shield regen.

But then again-
Just use Dante specter

[willow bluff]

I'll go check wiki if caliban specter rotation was updated

Wiki still says caliban specter only casts fusion strike with 8s cooldown

Does not cast any other ability

[tender perch]

Based tbh

Reject modernity, embrace lasers

[willow bluff]

Oh wait, cyte-09 specter casts resupply with 2 min cooldown.

Both good and bad that resupply wasn't his subsume ability, like dispensery and protea specter case

[rocky breach]

was made more aggressive from memory and they cast stuff on rotation like spectres, but thats about it i think

[lofty spire]

I js rolled a +Heat, + CD, +CC And -grineer damage riven but should i choose it over my original roll of +Ms, +damage?

I’m trying to choose but these choices are always hard

[willow bluff]

More aggressive but casts only 1 ability?

[lofty spire]

left or right

[willow bluff]

How more aggressive then?

[willow bluff]

Crit

[rocky breach]

they spend less time sitting there doing nothing

[willow bluff]

Oh gun shooting

[rocky breach]

from memory when he had the mild rework, each had tweaked AI, the melee ones would priority rushing in before doing stuff
mid range would cast then move, ranged would pew pew as a priority

but from what they said compared to pre retouch they would spend less time faffing about doing nothing

[willow bluff]

Wonderful

[lofty spire]

She on my until i

(She xata on my lohk until i oull)

[rocky breach]

honestly pre retouch caliban i only had the minions out for the shield regen, i never expected them to actually do anything except draw some fire

but from the newer to midgame players who tried him out actually saying the minions did stuff, i assumed it wasnt totally bad

[willow bluff]

Summoner playstyle

[rocky breach]

on the plus side, that summoners wrath aura is a faction bonus which is nice

[willow bluff]

DE still has to fix a lot of stuff regarding summons

[shy isle]

Hello there

[lofty spire]

left or right

basically the same thing except diff negative, diff element, and lower CC

[rocky breach]

actually how bad is the -max ammo

doesnt take many shots to build incarnon

if you're just using it for deathtrap trigger, should be fine

[twilit onyx]

6 default mag size

[rocky breach]

hmm 17 reserve ammo

but that -grineer could suck if you use it for disruption

[willow bluff]

Just equip either ammo max or ammo mutation in the exilus

[rocky breach]

could always trick mag/ammo mutation (instead of reflex/steady hands)

[willow bluff]

Twitch>Primed Steady Hands

[rocky breach]

i only use 2/3 reflex cos theres no mod capacity

[willow bluff]

DE did a mistake of renaming negative spread (-spread) into accuracy thinking that they technically mean the same thing.

But +accuracy mods don't increase the stat as much as -spread mods.

Hence Targeting Subsystem<Twitch

[slender sparrow]

It is the same stat

You can stack Twitch with Reflex Draw btw

giving you -80% recoil / -80% spread

[willow bluff]

Plus sentinel weapon

That's 100%

[slender sparrow]

making every weapon pin point accurate
shotguns will fire a single slug if you stack it further with slide mods

like Strafing Slide / Gun Glide

[slender sparrow]

Last i checked Sentinel's did not stack

[willow bluff]

If u have a different mod, then yes

Or IDK the logic
But ninjase uses it

[slender sparrow]

The reason it works, is because DE forgot to actually fill in the weapon slot spot of these mods
so they are universal

[willow bluff]

Augur mods also stack

From sentinel weapon

[slender sparrow]

so the weapon category slot for say Twitch does not say Longguns, as it should
it is simply blank

[willow bluff]

Also I saw the wiki calculations

Reducing spread increased accuracy a lot compared to simply increasing accuracy directly

It's just that now DE has renamed spread so only OGs remember which one is significant accuracy increase

[slender sparrow]

It is the same script

For all gun types, it refers to the same script

shotgun

[willow bluff]

I mean this formula

[slender sparrow]

primary

secondary

[lofty spire]

uhhhh

[willow bluff]

+% accuracy increase < -% spread decrease

[willow bluff]

So here increasing accuracy directly by 40% won't do as much good as decreasing spread by 40%

[lofty spire]

grinlok is really loked in

[willow bluff]

Yeah here if that's -60% spread decrease then the accuracy will increase more than this mod.

[rocky breach]

isnt +accuracy and -spread the exact same thing?
is spread even used in mod descriptions anymore

[willow bluff]

That's what I'm saying
They're not exactly the same thing.
So they shouldn't be renamed

[slender sparrow]

Pls look up the Lua scripts yourself then

it is the same script

[rocky breach]

if they're both coded the same, then consolidating the terms seem fine

[willow bluff]

Example
If your min and max spread is 10.
100/(20/2)

[hexed grail]

So it's not 20 meters like it says because my duration low?

[fathom cipher]

yeah duration is needed for pillage im p sure

[hexed grail]

My main weapon is a falcor that shreds lvl 215 corrupted heavy eximus without external damage buffs it works

[willow bluff]

I'll need the UI screenshots to prove this...

[fathom cipher]

thats awesome. falcor is amazing

[rocky breach]

but nothing has the min max spread/deviation the same (do they?)

[hexed grail]

I have a crit Chance electricity riven on it so that's probably a major boost

[willow bluff]

I think some do
Atleast the ones with pinpoint accuracy
But I'll find out others.

[hexed grail]

Falcor dispo is LEAGUES better than Xoris and does the same thing if you aren't going for infinite combo

[fathom cipher]

yeah thats why a lot of people like using falcor xd

[willow bluff]

I'll post the UI accuracy differences screenshots in some hours

[hexed grail]

With how effective it is in all gameplay I'm gonna be PISSED if they nerf glaives

[rocky breach]

just checked, beams seem to be min/max deviation the same, but you dont really care about accuracy increase on those (but you dont want -accuracy on beams since that makes them spew about in random directions)

[fathom cipher]

ikr. my 2nd fav weapons lol

[slender sparrow]

The Grinlok mods literally says UpgradeType=Weapon_Spread ; Value= -0.15
So Accuracy is negative Spread

or more spread = negative accuracy

[willow bluff]

That's not a big problem for beams

[rocky breach]

its pretty annoying on beams

def not a positive

lanka has pinpoint, but its 0-0

[slender sparrow]

all snipers are pinpoint when ads

[willow bluff]

I'll experiment with similar accuracy value weapons and compare similar value +accuracy vs -spread.

Atleast one of us will get a confirmation

[hexed grail]

Well initial range is still probably close to 20 meters

At 235% range

[rocky breach]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Weapon_Comparison

just sort by spread/deviation i guess

[willow bluff]

Useful
I'll find some similar values here

Will post the comparison results after taking UI screenshots

[slender sparrow]

All weapon tracer effects and projectiles are fake, only visuals

Arsenal values are wrong for like 50% of the time

[willow bluff]

Then I'll shoot and record the vid with multishot

[slender sparrow]

Also Arsenal only shows rounded values, not the actual thing

[willow bluff]

Atleast the multishot spread will prove everything with practical confirmation

[rocky breach]

"Certain accuracy modifiers that decrease accuracy do so by increasing spread by a flat amount instead of a percentage, despite being labeled as a percentage in-game. "
wiki caveat

[willow bluff]

Shady wiki
Sometimes you gotta test things yourself for full confirmation

I'll login in a while

[slender sparrow]

This is 30% in DE's words btw

[rocky breach]

not even surprised lol

i guess as long as everything is calculated to 9 decimals before the final output its internally consistent

i remember working for some company where their internal software had some things using 3 decimals other using 10
shit was rounding at random times constantly giving off wrong values depending on how many conversions/steps it went through

[slender sparrow]

Ye

30% but different but the same

[rocky breach]

guess thats sometimes why we get the funny display errors, if too many lows or highs add together its enough for them to show up

[tacit ginkgo]

Which one I go rn

[winged ivy]

Acrigon I would say

Acricon*

[pliant trench]

i might sound old, what xata whisper true damage count as? faction dmg?

[fathom cipher]

shoot im not sure. all ik its a separate thing from other dmg sources but it is affected by other dmg sources like crit, faction dmg, crits, and status

like a separate instance type of thing i think

im not sure what it classifies as tho

its a totally separate dmg instance tho

[placid turtle]

It's technically void damage but from the looks of things it doesn't behave like Amp damage

can't kill Eidolon stuff or Thrax

[pliant trench]

uh

[tranquil kayak]

Me when I learn (the hard way) that Primed Sure Footed is actually 99.99% and not 100%

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-movie-fall-falling-meme-gif-24396824

[rocky breach]

they changed it to be 100.1 or something just over
but yeah used to be 99.9

Update 32.1 (2022-11-02)

• Fixed the Primed Sure Footed Mod having a very tiny chance of not preventing knockdown at max rank.

[viscid saddle]

i keep getting a SE03 error

[graceful niche]

chat am I stupid or are shotgun mods really annoying to acquire

[restive warren]

[pliant trench]

nah we all stupidly grind it nonstop, only an idiot buy em

[restive warren]

Depends which one.

[graceful niche]

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Tactical_Pump

[restive warren]

Oh

I thought you were about to link one of the 60/60

[rocky breach]

kuva heavy units

[graceful niche]

legit only drops from things I don't even have access too yet

[rocky breach]

or jackal after 10-20kills

[graceful niche]

yea I guess there's jackal too

[rocky breach]

thats a slog though, i miss jackal without the cutscenes/super long invuln phaes

[pliant trench]

remember we can one shot all the boss in wf

it was a good time

[rocky breach]

he had invuln before, but it was like 3-5sec of being down

not 10+ sec of carousel
and the long initial cutscene after first down

[restive warren]

I mean

Seargent can still be wrecked

[rocky breach]

the wannabe prodman

[pliant trench]

naur, i want all the boss owned in warframe, cuz their own me therapist session

right awaiting main culprit, orokin

[restive warren]

I think only one that own me therapy session is Vor

But I'd rather if he'd just stfu realistically

It's crazy on in Duviri when you interrupt him, it's easy dopamine

[pliant trench]

i dont mind, for me i cant unhear the key real name pronouce anymore

str8 up the massacre party

[willow bluff]

ok, I did some testing
+accuracy and -spread scale equally

Am I misremembering that +100% accuracy modding didn't use to guarantee pinpoint accuracy but -100% spread did?
@rocky breach @slender sparrow

now both do guarantee pinpoint accuracy

[rocky breach]

so they must have consolidated whatever was causing the differences before before

[sand stirrup]

What would you guys consider the most fun Secondary Weapon for Endgame

Not necessarily the BEST one that clears rooms, Just the most entertaining one

[rocky breach]

vasto incarnon, i like kunai incarnon too

only really for single target/burst setups like disruption, but i like them for their novelty/mechanics

[willow bluff]

zymos, sporelacer, and tenet plinx

just so satisfactory when u shoot those

[sand stirrup]

How good is the Homing on Kunai Incarnon actually? Is it like "As long as the enemy is in your crosshair itll try to headtap" or is it "If the enemy is within 15 square miles it will find its mark"

[willow bluff]

+1

I wanna try Kunai incarnon with negative projectile speed

[sand stirrup]

I love Sporelacer, But I used it for like 2 years straight so im bored of it. Still great though

Thats partially why im asking for fun secondaries btw, Im MR31 with like 6000 hours, But im now bored of all my go to secondaries, so im trynna broaden my horizons to more fun ones

[willow bluff]

I used to have one for despair, found out that its incarnon doesn't have homing

kunai will be so fun if the homing is great.
-90% projectile speed

You can run, but you can't hide

[sand stirrup]

Im assuming youd want the decrease in speed to give it more time in the air to course correct

[willow bluff]

yep

[sand stirrup]

Thats smart

[willow bluff]

cedo prime's alt fire homing got worse compared to base cedo alt fire, because the projectile speed was higher

so homing gets better the lesser projectile speed u have

[sand stirrup]

I noticed that too

I thought I was insane since Cedo used to be my main

[rocky breach]

the homing on kunai works well, the downside is the insane setup needed for it to work
since you gotta prime, keep deadhead/crosshair/galv staucks up, just lota hoops

[willow bluff]

now that I think about it, I haven't listed all homing weapons yet
gotta find the one with best homing and then slow it down

[rocky breach]

vasto is much nicer in practice comparatively

[sand stirrup]

Tenet Diplos was fun but the swapping between firing modes is annoying sometimes

[willow bluff]

vasto has so less ammo

[sand stirrup]

And its Homing Volley is too slow for good damage anyway

[willow bluff]

diplos was a disappointment
I expected better from it
better than sepulcrum

all I see is Grofit Maker fans taking diplos with a chroma

[sand stirrup]

Its so funny to me that Xaku got Trumna Prime but Lavos, The other Necralisk Frame, Didn't get Sepulcrum Prime

[willow bluff]

exactly my prediction got ruined

[sand stirrup]

Just skipped right over it

[willow bluff]

coptering prime arrived out of nowhere

[sand stirrup]

Yeah

I dont think I was even around for Melee Coptering

Joined July 2018

[rocky breach]

i got a bit sad with how the zoren prime coptering doesnt keep the inertia (or maybe its the auto melee continuing to attack if your attack speed is too high, kinda slows you midair)

[willow bluff]

the best part I liked about diplos, is that its homing ignores enemies linked by arbi drones, but locks-on to arbi drones themselves

so u can specifically target arbi drones from a horde.

[sand stirrup]

Thats cool, But kinda niche

[willow bluff]

yep
but hey
I build stuff now for specific minmaxing

[sand stirrup]

I have gotten so used to just flicking my aim to the Drones and flicking back

[willow bluff]

and yet I wouldn't use diplos coz I found Octavia's mallet and cyte-09's gas acid shells to work against them

[coarse escarp]

When is the best time to go for Kuva Liches and Sisters of parvos enemies?

[sand stirrup]

Ive found that even some Melee nowadays can take care of them just fine

[sand stirrup]

Id suggest after The Sacrifice quest personally, you unlock them before then but I feel that around then is when you start getting exponentially more powerful mods and content

[coarse escarp]

All of my quests are done and star chart completed, I recently unlocked steel path too

[sand stirrup]

Then yeah id say you should be ready. Id recommend using either high DPS builds or balanced Damage/Tankiness. Ive found that if you sacrifice too much damage for survivability with Liches then they can start taking ages to knock down

[willow bluff]

u can go for adversary hunting right now
coz players are bored and waiting for update, or completing their nightwave challenge

so you'll get a squad easily

[sand stirrup]

Just cater to the weaknesses they generate with and try and take them down ASAP, using the method of knocking them down a few times on the same planet without finishing them to get more of the sequence at a lower level, making them easier in the Final Showdown

Generally ill keep them on each planet until ive cleared every node on the planet once, then move them, thats just personal preference though and not the meta

[sweet ember]

Hey. Does anyone know if I need the helminth segment for the helminth archon segment?

[solar halo]

Yes

[copper adder]

guys wheres my dog?

[frail tree]

should my wukong clone phantasma have more range or ammo mutation?

in the exilus slot

[sullen bobcat]

Does Ammo Mutations work for Specters?

[frail tree]

thats a good question actually

apparently it does. wukong clone shares its ammo pool with the player, so when you pick up and convert primary ammo, it benefits the monkey too

15 ammo per pickup is insane what. yeah I think ammo mutation is a must

[solar halo]

Yeah phantasma is one of the worse ammo economy weapons out there

[leaden obsidian]

Don’t specters have infinite ammo?

[strong field]

Only oncc

[rocky breach]

wuclone/equinox dont count as spectres/on calls

and use your ammo pool, so you need to run around grabbing ammo

[fluid tapir]

Wuclone hasn’t had infinite ammo for ages

[lavish pebble]

I thought Warframe Specters don't have infinite ammo now either?

[rocky breach]

tbf i only use t.glaxion on my spectres and that has like 700 ammo
so im not even sure now

[lavish pebble]

That it was just On Call Crew and special Specters that weren't affected.

[rocky breach]

but yeah on call is infinite

[fluid tapir]

I use Nataruk most of the time so forget ammo exists

[unique harness]

Nataruk God Tier

[willow bluff]

You can make ur specters use grimoire

If u give them a battery weapon with short magazine, like shedu or a kitgun

[lavish pebble]

Can't you also just, not equip a primary on the loadout you copy to them to do that?

Or does it require you to have a full loadout?

[chrome ruin]

What’s some good elements on melee?

[coarse osprey]

for thermal sunder titania, which ability do you replace?

[rocky breach]

2 or 3 (whichever you are least likely to use)
keep 1 cos holding it selfcasts so you're status/knockdown/stagger immune for the duration, and 4 for zooming

[coarse osprey]

thanks!

[lofty garden]

2 allows for extra razorflies, while 3 is good for pulling aggro

[covert lily]

Generally there’s so many strong multiplier mods that you dont fit elements on weapons except to take advantage of melee
influence. Other builds like heavy afflictions etc typically take advantage of forced slash or just priming elements with a different source.

caveat: i hate melee weapons so might be specific examples to consider

If you’re working in early ish game you might still get by with viral/heat and the like but im well out of date on that experience and mostly i think the melee damage curve is too op at those levels to matter much what you slap on

(Also note killing blows thankfully do not spread melee influence so depending on the weapon/content you get more out of other arcanes)

[compact sable]

elec

for influence

and ostensibly nothing else, really

though you can get fancy with toxin on exalteds if you use archon cont.

[jagged yew]

Can you subsume prime warframe at helmith?

[leaden obsidian]

No

[jagged yew]

Sad

[twilit summit]

Between the weird complaints about the very cool Valk heirloom and the complaints about her rework. Am I the only one who feels bad for DE?

[compact sable]

I don't think the complaints about the valk heirloom are weird

yet another almost naked T&A heirloom is kind of disappointing

[twilit summit]

When I saw the Mag and Rhino and Ember one. The heirloom designs all seem to be a more human form inspired design(which clearly gets seen as sexual because we're humans). It's what makes them unique compared to the very different tennogen skins and deluxe skins.

[austere root]

I like the Frost heirloom skin :>

[twilit summit]

So yes, in game with tons of sci fi weird gross cool futuristic technology inspired art. It's nice to have a line of skins that are so different.

Because their common design/style is what makes them different from the rest.

[fervent moth]

Are we gonna ignore Frost's ab window or Valkyr's "dress" parts that cover relatively little compared to other frames that have "clothes"? It's kinda wild just how different the skin philosophy is in Warframes just comparing the base skin to Heirlooms now. Literally just turn Ember around then flip between her and her Heirloom

[twilit summit]

This game is mad inclusive. Which is very awesome and compared to so many games, isn't even on the same planet as games brushing up against being sexual, led alone overly sexual. It's strange because it's this mix of LGBTQ friendly but with the so much shame over a butt or a chest.

Like half the player base is liberals and half is nuns.

[fervent moth]

I don't like them because if I see someone with a nickname like "Major Rusulka's 'Effervon Tanks'" again I'm going to have an aneurism. The skin's a cool design, easily better than the Frost and Mag ones, just would rather the game not attract that kind of attention.

[twilit summit]

This game would have to go a millions times deeper into the "sexy" frames zone to even compete. So I wouldn't worry about it drawing THAT kind of attention.

[fervent moth]

Nah, they don't, because I've already seen someone have that nickname before in a different server lol.

[twilit summit]

Those people are already here. Lol im saying I don't think it will attract more.

[fervent moth]

If this isn't triggering people's Lady Dimitrescu, then I guess I have no idea what people are into anymore.

[twilit summit]

It's definitely not. People have games with bigger and smaller everything and jiggle physics. Heirlooms are classy.

[raw smelt]

is valk heavily nerfed?

[twilit summit]

No. Depends on who you ask tho.

[covert lily]

Mostly you have to gate in endurance play

[fervent moth]

That doesn't mean this isn't provocative either, and given how people already talk about Wisp, I gotta say you're delusional if you don't think people are gonna go wild for this.

[covert lily]

Everyone else buffed basically

[covert lily]

I mean they kind of laid their own bed by not taking a more proactive design approach to endgame content, but the outrage machine is always irritating to deal with

[twilit summit]

@fervent moth oh they will. I'm not saying they won't. I think all of the heirlooms look amazing.

[fervent moth]

They do, but I would prefer more stuff in the Mag realm of it.

[covert lily]

I’m not sure what the specific complaints are i mostly just enjoy having varied skins snd its a new approach attractive in its own way so im gpod with it

[twilit summit]

I do agree the pants should be an aux component

[twilit summit]

This is how I wish everyone thought

[devout burrow]

good thing everyone has different opinions

[covert lily]

Its fair when people are disappointed their own vision is delayed, ill say, but within reason

Also i fashion literally everything except wukong so i have plenty to chew on i guess there are more narrow play people you can expect some fanaticism from

[fervent moth]

If I don't like it, I don't like it. I'd prefer skins I like, naturally.

[twilit summit]

So long as all those opinions are heard. We don't vote on anything. By the reddit you would think 90% of the player base is valk mains doing level cap content. Something like like 5% or less of players do.

[devout burrow]

it also depends on what kind of content you want, people want harder content and good reasons to continue playing the game in the sense of level cap, but people also want a horde shooter with no difficulty at all
the warframe community cant really be pleased with any move DE does, but I would hope that DE would change up the target audiences in updates here and there

[compact sable]

because the levelcappers have cause to complain lol

she used to be a pretty strong if still niche pick on levelcap, but now that part of her has been nuked from orbit

[fervent moth]

They can certainly please me by making Junction requirements much more strict while giving better access to essential mods for newer players. Make people actually level up mods as they progress, for once.

[compact sable]

so idk what the levelcappers are supposed to do? just be chill that it got basically removed from their purview?

[covert lily]

Was just posting in forums this lol, but i really think the game can be both easy to access and allow for more engaging play to vastly improve efficiency and thsts the dream i wish theyd pursue more

[twilit summit]

Naturally. I have 6 friends that found the game gross because of the warframes designs. Protoframes and heirlooms and some skins stray from that look. Which is good.

[compact sable]

and tbqh I bet more people do casc fissure (not necessarily cap but stay for a while) than ETA

ETA's still new but trying to get a public group for EDA any time that isn't the day after reset is pretty rough

[fervent moth]

"Gross"? Wild...

[devout burrow]

ETA is just a necessary pain you have to go though for meta loot, while cascade level cap people do cause its actually fun for them

[twilit summit]

Yeah. Big time.

[compact sable]

yeah that's how i see ETA lmao

I hate it but I do it every week because you'd kinda be a fool not to

[covert lily]

Hm its the opposite for me. I prefer the variety of eta, min maxing a loadout to a science doesn’t go that far

[twilit summit]

Flappy gross skin bits and stuff. I get it. I see what they see. I just played long enough to understand why they look like that and to get some skins that avoid the flappy skin texture stuff. Lol

[sullen sequoia]

ETA is so fun cause it actually challenges u

[fervent moth]

My issue with how out of wack Warframe is rn with balance is simply that numbers get way too big so they have to completely kill player freedom in order to make anything a challenge in this game.

[covert lily]

I wanna bring my rogga to a nuke fight

[compact sable]

the variety = slap influence on whatever melee you got that week

[sullen sequoia]

Except for the legacyte

[devout burrow]

I would love challenges with loadout variety

and not just "use this or dont get the loot"

[sullen sequoia]

I mean for both eda and eta you can swap 1 thing out

Warframe swap out is incredibly broken

[covert lily]

It is a problem that at base not every weapon can do the content i will concede

[sullen sequoia]

Well I don't think every weapon should

But power creep is badd

[fervent moth]

If they're going to make me use Akzani in ETA, yes the hell they should.

[covert lily]

They need a role at least, otherwise it’s basically a blank roll

[sullen sequoia]

nah you are already so op they are giving you a chance to invest into it

Like I keep getting atomos and I was convinced to grind for the incarnon

[compact sable]

the loadout thing just feels like they're shining a flashlight on their own bad balance

which is my main problem with ETA, assuming you play it "properly" and don't just meme it with an exalted frame or w/e, then the difficulty is 95% the gear roll

[sullen sequoia]

I also invested into different frames due to the restrictions, I'm overall very satisfied with the loop

[compact sable]

5% getting stage defence

[sullen sequoia]

Dante specter + on call 😎

And ancient healer specter ofc

[compact sable]

yeah thats literally my point tbqh

everyone just does the same things regardless of what the actually got for their roll

[covert lily]

Theres tiers of weapons i think should have like randomized base stat increasesl at least in these modes. Make em fun to use.

[fervent moth]

I already grinded a ton of the Incarnons already because I already figured this game wanted you to have a lot of different things.

Using Dante Specter, On Call and Operator is just ignoring the issue.

[covert lily]

Dante im gonna say it, is just bad for the game by existing

[sullen sequoia]

he cool but incredibly mundane

I never play as him unless I'm verglas nuking

[fervent moth]

Dante's whatever

[compact sable]

yeah idt dante is that impressive in 2025

he gives everyone overguard but you know, cool beans

[fervent moth]

No more egregious than a lot of other stuff we already have. Him having Overguard regen is what's big.

[compact sable]

certainly the only support frame that feels like he actually feels like he's supporting

[sullen sequoia]

wisp

[fervent moth]

You say that like Jade wasn't the only other extreme stand out frame since Dante's release and now

[sullen sequoia]

Jade is meh imo

[compact sable]

even jade's a bit whatever as a support frame

[sullen sequoia]

Wisp is just too broken of a support frame

[compact sable]

what does wisp do that's broken lol

[fervent moth]

Even further proving my point lol

[compact sable]

movement speed? 😱

[sullen sequoia]

shock mote 😎

[fervent moth]

Breach Surge is nice but it's unfortunately her subsume

[sullen sequoia]

nah it's still her 4, roar gang

all da strength

[covert lily]

Mostly nobody needs damage/healing/priming anything any more so the only thing you can do that has a visual impact is let them stop pressing buttons to survive

I think the rest is bad design too but I don’t love anything that pushes the window more on that front

Tbh trinity was already bad support precedent weve opened a thousand genie bottles since though

[sullen sequoia]

true

Blessing was a curse

I was always the bless trin in LoR 💀

[covert lily]

Energy gen for free is my boogeyman

You have a game where you can free nuke once a minute ? Sure. Every 5 seconds? Whelp, there goes the neighborhood

[sullen sequoia]

gara 😎

[willow bluff]

MFD trinity?
MFD loki?

Hildryn?

Gara?

Sevagoth?

[covert lily]

Not sure what the question is. Is it a systemic weakness that ability use is constant and requires little to no resource management or decision making? Yes thats my argument

[mellow turret]

GARA MENTIONED 🙌

[lofty garden]

Hildryn!

[jagged yew]

pls is anyone free to carry me in grendel parts missions ?

[heavy salmon]

so how do i farm vainthrons? do i need to bring just one deprixio or all of them?

[summer slate]

Could someone remind me of which kengineer video talks about how to farm a prime warframe? like where to best farm different relics

nvm found it 🙂 https://youtu.be/JQCw-spZQgc

[fathom cipher]

eclipse if zaw

[sullen sequoia]

Eh I like sharing with my squadmates 💔

Haven't ran my exodia contagion zaw in a min

[frail tree]

Revisiting my starter warframe in 2025 with my current know-how is so fun

Mag is great

[sick plover]

does anyone happen to have the best elemental chart for all kuva/tenet/(coda?)

[rocky breach]

dont think anyone bothered after coda update since the adapters let you switch whenever you want, in general though:
guns=magnetic (general use), elec/heat if you want to increase status weighting, maybe tox if you just want to 1mod viral or corrosive
melee=elec (influence), heat for mire (gas slam), impact motovore (i think?)

[dawn crater]

I've been unable to get split chamber mod, can someone slide me one please

[fathom cipher]

mag is amazing

[fathom cipher]

yeah for the most part roar will be better lmao

[rocky breach]

I can never help myself when I play mag must always do the 305% range, even though I know it annoys everyone with those room blocking bubbles

[late vessel]

What's a good subsume for a high range divine retribution spam build for Nezha?

[rocky breach]

Thermal sunder, Dante's slash nuke, temples fire nuke

I forget the names of the latter 2

[late vessel]

Why sunder?

[frail tree]

does mag needs any subsumes do you think? I've been enjoying her base kit and I dont really see any subsumable abilities..? maybe her third but the shards are really nice

[timid goblet]

I dont think the slam nerfs will actually be nerfs for how i usually play slams not gonna lie

[fathom cipher]

her base kit is absolutely great for all content. great synergy. only subsumes i would say are good on her are nourish or xatas whisper

[rocky breach]

Aoe heat status nuke in an area around you, Dante/temples is frontal nuke

[fathom cipher]

but her base kit is great. one of the best id say. it feels so complete

[frail tree]

it DOES

its so good

[fathom cipher]

i use nourish personally cuz i like doing some lvl cap stuff with her but its absolutely not necessary otherwise lol

i use steadfast on her too. its so comfy. way better than energize

[late vessel]

Wouldn't that like mess up heat status dmg if i say use a beam weapon with heat dmg

[frail tree]

I also didnt realize how good shieldgating was until I tried mag. literally as long as theres enough enemies a single cast of her 3rd or 4th ability should be enough to max out her shields during the shieldgate

[timid goblet]

I dont bony hop spam slams but I do use it a lot...however

I typically go up first to slam down mainly to look for enemies or because my character has too much parkour velocity

Tho

Slam zephyr is gonna be interesting in the open world depending on how far the slam scales with height

Because I'll be slamikg from freaking ORBIT!

[fathom cipher]

i gate with the 3rd because i use the augment that jams guns and also its a one handed cast so i can still shoot my weapons and reload and stuff

[frail tree]

ooooh!! i didnt know it was a one handed cast (I was having too much fun stripping everyone) I'll keep that in mind!

pause.

[fathom cipher]

i use this with nourish over 1

what weapon do u use with mag

uve gotta try either the latron incarnon or prisma angstrum incarnon. they are projectile weapons and do some hilarious dmg with the bubble

[frail tree]

should I resend my build? got lots to work on I think but its pretty solid for what it is

[fathom cipher]

go ahead

[frail tree]

nataruk for IBP and kuva nukor modded for PT to do funny chain beam shenanigans

[fathom cipher]

hmm idk abt the negative strength. u lose out on bubble dmg

[frail tree]

I'm all for losing strength if it means I get to have a funny bubble

[sullen sequoia]

I like pull

[fathom cipher]

and if u use the mag bubble augment i dont think u need all that range since it doubles her bubble range

[sullen sequoia]

So I subsume off her 3

[fathom cipher]

otherwise it looks fine

[fathom cipher]

3 is a comfier shield gate for me so i personally keep it but i do know that some people like gating with her 4

[sullen sequoia]

I think her 4 is just so good

[frail tree]

thats fair, but I think bigger bubble is funnier

[fathom cipher]

also fun stat to keep in mind for mag, with the crush augment im pretty sure that its 137% strength to full strip i think. key word i think lol

[fathom cipher]

its very fun i agree

[frail tree]

and you'd be right! but alternatively- running corro projo lowers the str needs to 110~

[fathom cipher]

oh ur right i forgot abt that

[frail tree]

I personally use precision intensify purely for her 4th to full strip

and corro projo

[fathom cipher]

yeah thats nice

[fathom cipher]

that works since u have her 3 still there. if u wanna gate with 4 u gotta run brief respite

[frail tree]

its so damn funny watchin an accolyte have his yellow hp turn red

[frail tree]

whats brief respite

[fathom cipher]

energy used gets turned into shield

[sullen sequoia]

Energy cost * 150% = shield acquired

[frail tree]

oh damn its an aura mod

ive literally never heard of this one

[sullen sequoia]

It's a v good one

[fathom cipher]

its the one of main mods for shield gate setups

[frail tree]

I can see the potential

[frail tree]

btw is this for me or silver

[fathom cipher]

u

i was just mentioning it. cuz 3 gives shields back anyways, 4 doesnt if u dont have brief respite on. it gives overguard tho

[sullen sequoia]

Ye my build already had brief with her augment for her 4

[frail tree]

what..?

[frail tree]

doesnt her 4th give shields based on enemies in her ult range?

[fathom cipher]

i dont think so right? i think just overguard

[frail tree]

no but

I've been shieldgating with her 4th this whole time

[fathom cipher]

oh what i might be mistaken then

[frail tree]

and it doesnt give overguard, it gives overshield

the purple shield over your max

[sullen sequoia]

Her 4 gives shield at base

[fathom cipher]

ah it does on dmg ticks

[frail tree]

yeah!

so yk how crush does 3 total ticks, when she does her mating dance?

thats when it gives shields

I never thought of using her 3 to shieldgate cuz it doesnt give overshield

[sullen sequoia]

Her 3 is too slow and I cba

[frail tree]

that too

but its a pretty decent option lookin at it

[fathom cipher]

i use it for crowd control with the augment

jams guns

[frail tree]

less cost to cast, potentially bigger range, unfortunately a slow expansion but w/e, and if its possible to shieldgate multiple times for each cast because of its slow expansion draining enemies as it moves, then yeah thats goated

[frail tree]

I personally enjoy sitting inside my bubbles

bullets cant touch me if they get sucked

[fathom cipher]

ez survivability like that xd

[frail tree]

what im saying!!! say it with me dawgg, BIGGER. BUBBLES.

[fathom cipher]

bigger bubbles

[frail tree]

I love this screenshot so damn much cuz wtf is even going on

I also find it amusing yoinking teammate bullets

[fathom cipher]

only qualm i have with mag is just how expensive her abilities are. if my arcane steadfast doest proc im just poor on energy when i start missions. and also her cast speed is kinda slow. thats it tho. very stron very fun frame

[frail tree]

GOD. I JUST REALIZED I DIDNT EVEN GET A SINGLE ABILITY RANGE BUFF FROM THE VOID FISSURE. BIGGER. BUBBLE

[sullen sequoia]

you need a casting speed shard

[frail tree]

I feel we can all agree on her casting speed being cheeks

[fathom cipher]

yeah i have 2 cast shards on her lol

[sullen sequoia]

oh bruh

[fathom cipher]

just sayin for base mag

[frail tree]

I havent done veilbreaker yet but, my wishlist is 2 equi and 3 casting spd for mag

[sullen sequoia]

Mag ain't that expensiveee

That's why I run nourish and energy nexus

Comfy build

[fathom cipher]

i just do 2 cast shards, 1 duration, 2 strength

[minor prawn]

ppl have a lot of health rework ideas and i usually see suggestions to make health gating which is just stupid

[frail tree]

running a subsume and an energy regen mod over base mag kind of proves the point that her costs are cheeks

[sullen sequoia]

eh it is what it iss

[fathom cipher]

i run nourish and equil and steadfast 😭 be castin a lot tho

[sullen sequoia]

broo what mission demands that much casting lol

[frail tree]

the funny ones

[fathom cipher]

cascade 😭

[sullen sequoia]

True

I haven't ran it in a min

[frail tree]

btw how does shieldgating work? do my shields, when broken and in a gate, need to be fully capped out to regain the shieldgate or does any amount of shield retrigger the shieldgate

[fathom cipher]

depending on the amount of shields u have, when it gets broken u get a certain amount of time where ur invuln. its broken with cata shields rn tho cuz any shield gained gives u the 1.33 seconds of shield gate

u want to get to max shield tho cuz if it gets broken again at low shield, then the timer is extremely short and u usually die. so one method of shield gate is just brief respite + cata shields and the other is having an ability on the frame that gives shields back

[frail tree]

wait

cata shields on mag isnt troll then

[sullen sequoia]

not worth

[frail tree]

or does she even want catasha

[sullen sequoia]

You restore so much shield it's not worth

[fathom cipher]

its troll bcs u have abilities that give shield back

dont need it. u get longer invuln times without cata shields

[frail tree]

btw this is the pet that I run with my mag, martyr simba cuz im bad at the game, hunter recovery to remedy toxin damage, and synth deconstruct for that sweet2 equi energy

[shadow storm]

where can I get the Synth mods for companions? Wiki says that fortuna bounties award them but everyday for the past week only TEK Mods are available

[rocky breach]

You get 2.5sec gate if you hit 1350 shields iirc

[fathom cipher]

thats fine. panzer is good for that viral spread

[rocky breach]

So for mag that's ez with the overshields

[frail tree]

it is!! and I've noticed the spores on the panzer is radial

so grouping them with mag puts it to greater effect

space aids my beloved

[sullen sequoia]

I can't give up my verglas prime

[rocky breach]

Other frames with big shields included gyre, Caliban, yarelli...and revenant from memory

[sullen sequoia]

Revenant don't need no damage reduction

he's op

[fathom cipher]

hildryn right

[frail tree]

valid. I was a nautilus enjoyer for a while, but then dog

[fathom cipher]

diriga on top

[sullen sequoia]

hildryn has pillage...

[rocky breach]

Hildryn special, gets 3.5 sec

[sullen sequoia]

One of the best abilities in game

[frail tree]

why is diriga good again? /gen

[sullen sequoia]

Cc

[fathom cipher]

priming, has elec, can proc archon stretch, can room nuke if u wanna build it like that

[sullen sequoia]

and he can proc archon stretch etc

I was a hound enjoyer before they are crazy

[fathom cipher]

proccing archon stretch is my fav part abt diriga cuz who can deny free energy

[frail tree]

might need to revisit bro

I treated it like mr fodder

[sullen sequoia]

Diriga is a top tier sentinel

[fathom cipher]

agreed

[frail tree]

But but but

resourceful retriever...

[sullen sequoia]

Lazy frame

(energy orb after assisting in 10kills)

[frail tree]

Wait that's kinda crazy

[fathom cipher]

dethcube prime is still my most used sentinel 😭

[frail tree]

Companions are one of those new horizons for me in wf

I barely dipped my toes in

[sullen sequoia]

There's ALOT

Prisma shade for me...

[fathom cipher]

i gotta grab a huras kubrow for some funny crepuscular builds i wanna make

[frail tree]

Also I just realized I probably don't have much of an issue with mag's costs just bc I run zenurik as my main (and only) focus school

[sullen sequoia]

trust start investing into madurai

Best by far

[frail tree]

I am I am!! Slowly

[fathom cipher]

madurai is the only focus school i use 🙏

[frail tree]

Gave my nukor a madurai lens and I've been getting a lil madurai focus every day

When I get all the skills (that I want specifically) and the waybound for zenurik I'll move on to madurai

[fathom cipher]

slapped it on my mirage cuz i main her then i slapped an unairu lenz on my wisp i think

ive got 2 of the represent rewards from madurai 😭

i have so much focus for madurai

[sullen sequoia]

Last gasp is the best operator ability it's insane

[fathom cipher]

mhm

[sullen sequoia]

Context

[frail tree]

Ogh god the operator and amps... barely touched that one too

There's just so much shit to do in warframe it gets daunting at times

[fathom cipher]

id say the syndicate stuff for like the open world areas are the most daunting

[sullen sequoia]

worst thing imo

[fathom cipher]

i cant lie im tryna upgrade my amp so i still have to grind for lil duck stuff 😭

[sullen sequoia]

I despised fortuna

[fathom cipher]

fortuna was the absolute worst

[frail tree]

My open cetus is at 1 rn, fortuna at 3 and necralisk at 4

[sullen sequoia]

I'm so bored of necralisk

[frail tree]

alternatively you could just buy it from someone, iirc synth mods aren't that expensive

[fathom cipher]

necralisk i got to like lvl 3 and havent gone back yet 😭

[pearl parcel]

good news swung

i am strong enough to break a crowbar

[frail tree]

congratulations

[sullen sequoia]

Hell ya

[frail tree]

has anyone here spent money on warframe?

[pearl parcel]

i tried to pry a block of wood off a tree, heard a crack, and a tooth was missing off my crowbar

got embedded in the damn tree

[fathom cipher]

i have lol. on some tennogen and some plat if i get a big coupon

[sullen sequoia]

havent spent a dime lmao

but ive played since 2017 so i got all the stuff i wanted

[fathom cipher]

im a big fashionframe player soooo

[vale prism]

are there any other weapons that have grouping besides proboscis cernos ?

[fathom cipher]

gotta grab my tennogens :p

[pearl parcel]

tplinx

[vale prism]

besides plinx

[pearl parcel]

hmm

[rocky breach]

Simulor, gamacor incarnon

[frail tree]

damn

[rocky breach]

Lenz maybe?

[frail tree]

Aint lenz a boomb

[sullen sequoia]

lenz used to be so meta

[rocky breach]

It does some aoe thingo, not sure if it succs

[frail tree]

pulls out business card

just use mag lol

[rocky breach]

Telos boltace succs

[vale prism]

was thinking about synergizing w/ gyre

[frail tree]

takes it back

[vale prism]

also not melee

i just build gauss as a melee platform 🙃

[pearl parcel]

lenz, tplinx, telos boltor, and simulor

[fathom cipher]

wasnt aegrit meta for a bit

[rocky breach]

It's meta-ish now if you get a riven

Since it can slot synth charge for some reason

[vale prism]

if i was gonna use a bow id prolly just use the proboscis cernos since isnt it a lot better than lenz

[pearl parcel]

its about even

[frail tree]

I bought a few packs in the past whenever they rolled around, I ended up having more plat than I'll ever need. Not much into fashion framing either. It did fasttrack my progress in the game though, buying whatever mods that were in my budget and that I was missing. It's really neat

[pearl parcel]

hey rippy guess what

[frail tree]

speaking of mods, what synth mod did you need anyway ? @sullen sequoia

[frail tree]

Hm?

[pearl parcel]

guess what

[frail tree]

?

[pearl parcel]

chicken butt lol

[sullen sequoia]

Not me

it was another person

[frail tree]

guys if I have a rank 3 arcane and 3 R0 of it how many R0 do I need to R5 it?

[pearl parcel]

well it takes 21 arcanes to r5 from r0, so deconstruct your r3 and subtract however many r0's you have after from that

[frail tree]

not ingame rn so I cant do that

[pearl parcel]

it takes 10 to hit r3

you have 3 r0's and a r3, so thats 13, you need 8 more

[frail tree]

Oh perfect

Ty

[pearl parcel]

ist keine ursache

[coarse osprey]

where do you guys farm your orokin cells? these prime items got me broke on orokin cells

[pearl parcel]

Gabii Ceres, bring farming frames

[sullen sequoia]

Or u can run lephantis I'm pretty sure he drops em

[coarse osprey]

will give this a shot

[pearl parcel]

ye dont need to ping me

[pearl parcel]

he does but it takes forever and the most you can get from one run is 4

8 with a resource booster

and drops are unreliable without a drop booster

[sullen sequoia]

just buy the orokin cell bp 📈 (please don't)

[pearl parcel]

orokin cell bp is not stonks, it is stinks

[minor sierra]

I'm a huge fan of Helene, Saturn. Small defense tile makes it hard to miss drops while staying in affinity range to level gear. Also gives plastids.

[pliant trench]

also stand this helene,saturn. since u can lvling and gain 6~12 cell per run

[pearl parcel]

good news lovisa

[pliant trench]

damn waiting the news like waiting for my soulmate, know it exist, dont know when it appear

[pearl parcel]

I broke a crowbar

[pliant trench]

virtually or reality? cuz context matter here

[pearl parcel]

At work

I was prying on a 4x4 that was screwed to a tree and part of the crowbar broke off

[pliant trench]

A crowbar breaking mid-use?

Either you're secretly superhuman, or that thing was due for retirement

Hope no casualties except the crowbar itself 🤣

[pearl parcel]

The tooth got embedded in a tree

[pearl parcel]

I've been nicknamed wreck it ralph because I break stuff so often

[pliant trench]

wreck it ralph is a solid nickname. At least you're consistent

[pearl parcel]

Is there a tool or object? The odds are good I can break it, or have broke it in the past

[pliant trench]

at least their know who to call to break stuff ~~if ~~when needed

[pearl parcel]

Lmao yeah

[covert lily]

Let me send you a daily walking route; it goes right by the home of the last nerd who annoyed me on the forums

[steel torrent]

anyone got a dorrclave build or a whip build in general?

[pearl parcel]

Whip or whipblade

[steel torrent]

whatever dorrclave is :D

[pearl parcel]

Dorrclave is a whip blade, lecta is a whip

[pale rampart]

Anyone have a recommended build for Desiccation Volt?

[fair flame]

A Desiccation volt? That's the most strange volt build iv heard of this year. Anything in particular you need it for?

And other question is what part of the game you in?

[pale rampart]

Struggling with Surviving in Steel Path with him.

[fair flame]

So you want the give him the inaros ability? In hopes to live better?

I guess you could uses it as a soft armor strip

[pale rampart]

I already have, with the Kavat Augment. Was just curious about better builds that people may be using.

[fair flame]

What ability did you replace it over?

[pale rampart]

I replaced his 3 as was recommended to me.

[fair flame]

As his first 3 would be amazing at buffing the sand cavats and your own self durability

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-you-what-what-did-you-do-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-gif-19389913

You got rid of the one ability that is basically unlimited damage absorbing shuild that only requires you to look at that direction

Volt needs that to survive in steel path

[lavish pebble]

Capacitance would give you way more survivability. It's Volt's defacto EHP regeneration option.

[fair flame]

1 of volts abilities are stuns one is one of the best defensive options. And the other is speed boost

[fallow obsidian]

You use triple augment and archon stretch, have capacitance, sand kavats, that one speed augment, alot of strength

Summoner's wrath and power drift on exilus

Arcane camisado and aegis

Aegis level doesn't matter

[pearl parcel]

hey ezel, i broke a crowbar

[fair flame]

I have the half life crowbar live side solid metal

[fallow obsidian]

Subsume off 3

[fair flame]

Why does everyone say subsume is 3ed? Is first is the one with the least risks to subsume

[fallow obsidian]

1st one is augment to give kavats more electricity

[unique umbra]

shock trooper's goated

[fair flame]

3ed and 4th ability are his best to subsume off

First is good if youwant to keep them

[livid cobalt]

There is a build for it with augment that basically makes the kavats one shot everything for him

[tough urchin]

volt pillage

[fair flame]

Ehh guess my recent attempts to make builds without needing helminth crutch has lead to me having negative view of helminth builds for steel path content.

[opaque oar]

if yall could add some extra utility to Loki's kit, what would you add?

[fair flame]

Some form of armor reduction on switch teleport

[opaque oar]

so you think he needs armor strip?

[fair flame]

I mean it could be like he steals armor and reduces armor on the target swaped

[opaque oar]

so ok, im creating my own loki rework, I kinda already did away with switch teleport LMAO

[fair flame]

Idk his kits rather perfect for a stealth theme deesepton frame

His disarm is perfect his decoy is perfect. Can't change is claoke with out completely makeing it op

[opaque oar]

nah i feel he's severly outclassed in like every way

[fair flame]

Outside of a total kit change I don't really know what to change

His decoy is fine by me mostly because of it's damage decoy augment

[opaque oar]

yeah im doin a total kit change

decoy is pretty good... with the augment only. I low key removed the decoy and added that whole thing as an augment, with the current augment... if that makes sense

[fair flame]

Wish this augment was baked in but only active when he's not Invisible. And when he is invisible it gains 50% dr

[opaque oar]

ok let me just acc say what im thinkin:

Passive: +50% crit chance on unaware and blinded enemies.

Ability 1 is a lot like kullervo's wrathful advance, except without the heavy attack and it also blinds enemies in his path. This allows loki to quickly dodge security lasers and walk through enemies.

The AUGMENT adds a decoy that appears when you teleport away, that does damage on death.

also, might just me, but my fantasy of a trickster archetype has him teleporting around everywhere

like unable to be caught vibes, switch teleport is so slow

2 is invis, idk what else to do with that yet...
3 needs to be extra utility, maybe armor strip like you said

4 is 'Trickery Domain': On cast it sets an aoe field and blinds enemies caught in it (ONLY on cast). Then enemies within that area have their weapons jam, and are vulnerable to damage

loki can also stay invisible longer in his domain

[narrow onyx]

It’s decent CC

But yeah volt is just capacitance survival

Legit invincible until the duration of it is over

[balmy wraith]

so uhhhh... what does "primer" mean?? & do i build any crits on dex furis or just status effect??

[fervent moth]

Just a weapon that spews out a ton of status effects for Condition Overload and similar effects. You do nothing but SC, elements and fire rate for a primer

[balmy wraith]

sc??

[fervent moth]

Status chance

[balmy wraith]

oh ok gotcha,, so no crits for dex furis...?

[fervent moth]

If primer, no

[opaque oar]

not needed if you're going for a primer build, yeah

[balmy wraith]

...hmmmm

so. the reason im asking is bc i cant ever aim for the life of me so i. want a crit secondary that doesnt require aiming... much

[opaque oar]

wait did you want a primer or nah?

[balmy wraith]

how accurate is the tierlist on overframe?? i usually dont like tierlists but... desperation

[opaque oar]

uhh ive heard very mixed reviews

[balmy wraith]

no... i just wanted to know what it means.

[north sky]

The top is pretty subjective but the bottom is all stuff to avoid

[balmy wraith]

hmm ok ty!!

[opaque oar]

btw this is my primer

[opaque oar]

ohhh i see i see. maybe grakatas? ive heard good things

[tough urchin]

kompressa, epitaph, tysis are the best primer

[north sky]

I use catchmoon for the big projjectiles but it does take some aiming. Despair incarnon is pretty fire and forget with the explosions if you don't mind getting a couple headshots to charge it. A lot of the really high fire rate stuff goes well as status weapons so the crit weapons tend to benefit from aiming and headshots.

[balmy wraith]

...does forma increase mod cap or?? i forgot what it does other than change polarities

[north sky]

Just polarities

[tough urchin]

it reduces half of ur mod

like 16 -> 8

[north sky]

Pyrana prime is a pretty forgiving crit weapon if you don't mind a shotgun. I run it as viral with crit.

[tough urchin]

forma only increase mod cap when ur wp is coda/kuva/tenet/paracecis or ur mech (voidrig and bonewidow)

[opaque oar]

Yeahh some weapons/objects are weird and can be 'overleveled'

[balmy wraith]

i do love shotguns,, i got strun incarn & sybaris bc of it :3c

[north sky]

Then I'd recommend pyranna if you want crits

[opaque oar]

dread incarnon is pretty anti aim....... but you need to get headshots to use it HAHA

[tough urchin]

to maximum is 5, so use forma wisely

[pearl parcel]

what mr is pyrana prime again

isnt it like 15

[north sky]

13 I think

[pearl parcel]

oh hell i could use that

[tough urchin]

rush ur mr

[pearl parcel]

honestly i hate the mr system solely because 90% of weapons are gernerico garbage

[tough urchin]

im just playing 312 days but im mr 33 (almost 34)

[pearl parcel]

i dont like the MR system in this game because a solid portion of the weapons are just gonna get discarded the moment you hit level 30

[balmy wraith]

...i think i hit mr13...

[tough urchin]

[north sky]

It really sucks. By far the fastest way to level MR is to let someone else kill everything.

[pearl parcel]

this as well, the best way to get mr is to not play the game

[balmy wraith]

afk gaming

[tough urchin]

[north sky]

I got a buddy who would go into Sanctuary Onslaught with me and we'd trade off playing one frame that nukes the room, and one frame completely loaded with MR fodder.

[placid turtle]

I feel like Nightwave challenges should give XP like the 1999 and Incarnon challenges do

[balmy wraith]

just get w a mirage prime into so/eso & go afk...

[placid turtle]

It's a decent way of levelling

[north sky]

Although now that cross-play works maybe if you have a console you can do that for yourself. Mirage with ledgerdermain is the easiest way.

[balmy wraith]

...with what???

[pearl parcel]

i just wish mr was tied to feats or to playing the game, not building weapons and sitting for hours

[north sky]

Mirage's 2 augment

That's the sanctuary room nuking build

[opaque oar]

i think it should be a combo tbh

[tough urchin]

harrow

[pearl parcel]

dont ping me

[opaque oar]

pft put it in your nickname or bio dude, how would i know?

[pearl parcel]

because this is the third time i've told you