gameplay-discussion

[strong field]

Unfortunately, the statstick settup for razorflies is a bit full send, and if you arent running nourish, youre losing out on biiiig damage

[toxic umbra]

Hate was 68.84%. Most used Frames was Nova, wisp, Saryn, Kullervo and Baruuk

[restive warren]

Glaive latches?

[outer holly]

no for the glaive

[restive warren]

For it to boom?

[hasty oxide]

I'm on around 360% str with summoner's wrath with pillage strip and the damage is still sad

[outer holly]

no for the teshin quest in new war im trying to latch onto it but its not letting me

if i cant get past this my account is gone

[lofty garden]

Only clocked ~1100 hrs.

[restive warren]

You already restarted?

[hasty oxide]

idk maybe the damage isn't sad, maybe it's just the killrate

[outer holly]

yes

[lofty garden]

Only went up one MR level.

[restive warren]

You already pressed to set all keybinding back to default?

[outer holly]

yes

ill even do it again right now

[lofty garden]

Teshin was annoying.

[restive warren]

Idk normally middle mouse button is the answer and normally it says it

[outer holly]

mine says J

[restive warren]

..?

[lofty garden]

This the one where you throw the orvius, and then you have to aim and press a button to grapple to it?

[outer holly]

YEA

[lofty garden]

Did that using a controller. I think I had to map "B" to a back button.

Doesn't it use the Glaive controls?

[restive warren]

It should

[outer holly]

back button?

is that the control i need to map

[lofty garden]

My controllers have underside buttons.

If you're on keyboard, it would be the melee button.

[restive warren]

On their controller*. Yeah

[outer holly]

my melee button is E

[urban harness]

worst case scenario you message support, your acc isnt dead

[outer holly]

but it says J

[lofty garden]

Do you have melee vs heavy melee?

Oh, what's J mapped to?

[restive warren]

I'd say to go do something else, wait until you're not... Ticked off..? Aggravated..?

[outer holly]

i dont know

[outer holly]

yeah ur right

[restive warren]

Check in your keybinding settings

[fair flame]

I renamed lato vandel to lato prime boom rere gun acquired

[strong field]

Consider the fact that Nourish "gives" viral status to you and the razor flies, which at its max stacks will increase damage done (to health) by 325%

[lofty garden]

Weird, the defaults don't use "J" according to the Wiki

C:\Users[Username]\AppData\Local\Warframe\EE.cfg is where the keybindings are stored.

[devout crow]

anyone else here have a favorite frame they main

[hasty oxide]

i mean that's true, maybe i should really work on fortuna to get that tazicor so i can prime with duplex instead

[lofty garden]

Mmm... Umbra Forma BP twitch drop.

[restive warren]

Time for Devstream

[outer holly]

where should i paste that into

[lofty garden]

Oh, use Windows Explorer to go down the tree.

[hasty oxide]

I'm sticking with pillage cos i really wanna try pushing it for endurance survival, unless you mean to say the damage is good enough with nourish

in that case idm switching to nourish

[boreal pier]

could nourish and run corro shards

[strong field]

Might be the play, razorflies aside, I modified a diwata build to become the razorfly lol

[boreal pier]

blast tox with archon continuity + nourish

[lofty garden]

Ah, so "J" is the default for Parry (melee block)

[hasty oxide]

yea I'm running 1 tau corro shard as well

for the normal pixia shenanigans

1 tau corro, 1 tau casting speed, 3 tau ability str

total 400% str with fully stacked arcanes

[outer holly]

yeah i just saw it now

[hasty oxide]

i think the priming might be the problem

[outer holly]

so what i just unbind it? @lofty garden

[lofty garden]

Wiki has the answer!

You use Alternate Fire to lasso the orvius for long jumps

So try Alt Fire instead of "J".

[outer holly]

ahh okay

[lofty garden]

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Teshin#Gameplay

[outer holly]

OMG IT WORKED I LOVE WARFRAME COMMUNITY ND YOU @lofty garden

[lofty garden]

Teshin was not a high point of The New War. 🙂

[outer holly]

i thoguht i was about to lose my acc

[restive warren]

I wonder what went wrong tho, I don't remember "j" showing back when I did it, on launch.

[lofty garden]

Like, I get it if they give us a weapon that lets us practice that elsewhere, but this is the only place in the whole game where you are trying to grapple something you threw, far as I'm aware.

[restive warren]

Realistically you wouldn't have. You'd still have it until the problem is solved.

[outer holly]

omd i reset my settings and now i dont know the bullet jump keybind thing

[lofty garden]

HA!

[restive warren]

[urban harness]

thats kinda weird

[lofty garden]

Should be able to find that in the regular bindings.

[restive warren]

You re-keybinded that?

[urban harness]

thought it woulda found its way into a warframe ability

[outer holly]

yes bro i made it my mouse button and space bar

[restive warren]

This is why I never rebind thing

[lofty garden]

I stand behind "Just use Hildryn"

[restive warren]

Considering half the games I played would just... Wipe my keybind after an update anyways

Testing my patience.

[lofty garden]

50% of my Primary kills were Kuva Bramma, and 48% of my secondary kills were Lato Vandal.

I didn't capture a single Eidolon in 2024. Dammmm.

made 444 weapons, 21 warframes, and lit 153 forma on fire.

Oooh, new wiki?

[restive warren]

But I'm used to the ol' one 🥹

[rain sparrow]

new warframe wiki is so peak

[lofty garden]

noooo! Dark backgrounds are my nemesis!

[restive warren]

Is it?

[rain sparrow]

zero ads makes it load and run so much better

[restive warren]

Well my thingy says it's not safe for some odd reason 🤡 (Clown face because Bullguard also used to be a temperamental child of an anti-virus)

[rain sparrow]

well its probably cause its getting raided by 64k devstream viewers the servers are probably dying

[restive warren]

Future me problem then.

[sick plover]

but this is based.

now someone needs to make an app to automatically redicrect fandom to wiki.warframe

dunno why they didnt went for warframe.wiki like OSRS and RS.wiki

[urban harness]

official wiki?

[restive warren]

Yeah

[sick plover]

yup

[urban harness]

woah

[outer holly]

hmm so i cant bullet jump at all

[sick plover]

new official wiki:
https://wiki.warframe.com/

[restive warren]

It's... Gonna take some used to.

[sick plover]

yeah, because google will still show you fandom

[restive warren]

I don't mind the fandom

[sick plover]

fandom is unusable without adblock

[restive warren]

...

You don't have one?

[sick plover]

i do

[rain sparrow]

fandom actually runs so bad and looks so bad

[sick plover]

but in general, some people on mobile do not

and on mobile Fandom wikias are terrible.

[restive warren]

Oh yeah I understand why this is not a me problem then

📱 🚮

[restive warren]

Oh man that's big I regret not going when it was 🤏🏻 smaller, if you can even call Tennocon small at all

[lyric lotus]

[restive warren]

Is that coffee

[lyric lotus]

with some...you know...

[sick plover]

where can i find the stats?

[half jewel]

Warframe.com

[sick plover]

thanks, but where on it, im logged in

[restive warren]

... Sugar?!

[lyric lotus]

it has some sugar along wiht some medical stuff :v

[half jewel]

Should be in the home page

[sick plover]

ah. now it shows

darn

[lyric lotus]

bruh!

[sick plover]

well then.

[lyric lotus]

Rhino looks...something.

[restive warren]

The horns signa 😭

[lyric lotus]

liking the helmet

[restive warren]

I want the darn signa

[lyric lotus]

oh wait thats a signa!

[pearl parcel]

hey pix guess what

[lyric lotus]

am i the only one thinking he should have a bare torso?

[restive warren]

[pearl parcel]

ive got a hat

[restive warren]

What type?

[pearl parcel]

a flat cap

[covert lily]

hm, pretty good Rhino stuff all around. Maybe they can rework Rhino charge so I actually want to play him

[lyric lotus]

that nightwave armor...would go well with nidus

[uncut night]

The staler has just replaced my secondary weapon with despair, was that a bug or a feature?

[covert lily]

Dump yer energizes

[lyric lotus]

energizer wont survive after feb 6th

[restive warren]

That would be a good time

[lofty garden]

Time to make a second Energize!

[peak moth]

Is there somewhere that says everything new coming or coming back that they said in the devstream without watching it?

[lofty garden]

Probably be a forum post.

[covert lily]

That's sick af

[restive warren]

LAVOS PRIME HELMET IS PURE GOLD

PURE. UNFILTERED. GOLD

[peak moth]

What forum?

[lyric lotus]

ooof!

[covert lily]

Like legit maybe my favorite prime at first blush

[restive warren]

Cheddar prime look heavy as all hek

[pure gulch]

bro is not alchemist for nuffin

[restive warren]

His prime accessories, the temptation

[lyric lotus]

[worldly dome]

this is proving to be a very underwhelming devstream for me 😭

[covert lily]

The sneks are also incredible

[leaden obsidian]

Lavos prime and cedo prime

[restive warren]

Dual Zoren? I'm sorta surprised

[lyric lotus]

might have to answer some questionable question from wife next month...wait...valantines is next month as well...

sigh!

[restive warren]

[leaden obsidian]

Valentines can wait

[restive warren]

She's def gonna side-eye you

[lyric lotus]

well....gonna play uno reverse.

[restive warren]

Just both side-eye each other

[worldly dome]

I'm gonna have to wait like another hour for something to get hyped for at this rate :(

[lyric lotus]

BRO! lavos looks too good!

[hasty oxide]

ah shoot i think it might be my play that's an issue for sure, i can't pilot titania to save my life

[restive warren]

Man the few last primes been on fire

[covert lily]

Worth getting passed over for year of the snake

[worldly dome]

They're all so boring to me :(

[restive warren]

The one thing I don't like with so much flourish, it makes hard with the attachments

[restive warren]

Visually or?

[lyric lotus]

wing it kitty

[covert lily]

Should still be easier than the base lavos

[worldly dome]

Visually and gameplay

Like, Lavos and Xaku are just so boring

[lyric lotus]

use the forbidden button - Randomize

[restive warren]

🤷🏻‍♀️

[worldly dome]

Sevagoth is cool looking but not very interesting to play

[restive warren]

I don't like Xaku gameplay that much, but I can admit they look nice

[worldly dome]

Not a fan of the boneless gilded look

[lyric lotus]

[eternal quartz]

WHAT OOF? HIS CHOCK IS THE GOOD THING

[half jewel]

HE LOOKS SO GOOD!!!!

[worldly dome]

Hoping there's some good Coda weapons or this stream is kinda over for me

[restive warren]

His wallet gonna oof

[lyric lotus]

it's gonna poof

with oof!

[restive warren]

You good bro? You sound in a sorta meh state rn

[weak imp]

Scoop brother I pledge to scoop

[worldly dome]

all good, all this content is just really not my kinda thing

[lyric lotus]

march 2025

[worldly dome]

the boy band thing is really dumb, Lavos is a Warframe I've been happy to forget thus far, etc. etc.

[restive warren]

Certain things just grow on you, if you let 'em.

[outer snow]

Hello

[pure gulch]

ion care much for lavos in terms of gameplay at least yet but the prime looks really good

[restive warren]

Can always take a break for an extended period of time 🤷🏻‍♀️

[worldly dome]

Another Lich system to learn because it's gonna have some gimmick to it but hopefully the weapons are good

[lyric lotus]

yah like me, went from heaven to hell...

and suffering...

[leaden obsidian]

Imma grind out lavos prime and cedo prime

[restive warren]

I mean the oldies been waiting for infested liches for awhile.

[worldly dome]

Infested liches are fine and good, but I heard rumours that you can't focus farm a specific weapon; that it's more of a vendor like Ergo Glast

[covert lily]

ech, I really don't want to grind more relics, but I'm a lot more into Lavos than any of the last few so I guess we're gonna start a new podcast

[worldly dome]

aoi's f*ckass bob 😭

[restive warren]

I mean Ergo Glast would be a better system, if they do it right.

[lyric lotus]

imma got that for my drifter

[unborn compass]

Lots of fun options

[worldly dome]

Corrupted Holokeys are awful, I don't wanna wait for a vendor to rotate to the weapon I want

I wanna farm liches with a progenitor

[restive warren]

Yes you said the exact problem, the holokeys and how much you get. You will get enough currency with infested lich to get at least one weap if you beat it.

[worldly dome]

The holokeys are the cherry on top of a bad system

[restive warren]

HA!! Yes, that's the true thing to worry for ngl. Less so if you own any type of patience.

[worldly dome]

Ergo Glast only having a certain element per weapon per rotation is so bad

[restive warren]

You're worrying over the currency itself make no sense. The fact it drops none should be the biggest worry you have.

[worldly dome]

You're focusing on holokeys way too much. Forget I mentioned Holokeys at all.
The problem is not having progenitor control over the weapons' elements.

[restive warren]

You're the one that mentioned them

[worldly dome]

yes, as one of the problems. the lesser of the two

[restive warren]

We don't know yet.

[lyric lotus]

holy!

[restive warren]

Honestly if you're impatient and can't hold your currency that's self-afflicted

But

[timid berry]

Ooh the drip

[leaden obsidian]

Wut

[worldly dome]

I can hold my currency but with the other 2 lich systems, if I decide suddenly that I want a specific weapon with a specific element, I can go spend an indiscriminate amount of time and find it

[vital scroll]

belly of the beast is coming back???

[worldly dome]

As rumours stand, with this system, I HAVE to wait

[worldly dome]

her fringe is awful bro

[pure gulch]

gonna talk about it now

[leaden obsidian]

fringe?

[lofty garden]

Ugh. March.

[worldly dome]

yes

[leaden obsidian]

tf is that

[worldly dome]

Do you not know what a fringe is?

[pure gulch]

glast style system

[leaden obsidian]

Nope

[worldly dome]

the hair over your forehead

[pure gulch]

but with differences? hmm

[leaden obsidian]

Ah

[restive warren]

Guess so, I know I just spam until I'm done. But in this case I can spam until I have enough tokens and just wait for max or near max roll. I just gotta bother log on. Might take longer but realistically you have some type of power over the % now.

[wooden plover]

hey warframe discord, does anyone know good ways to utilize or buff Exodia Contagion?

[lofty garden]

Oh no... "purchase". I swear to god, if I have to spend hours in Railjack for a chance to buy these things...

I'll only do it to hit LR5 and stop.

[pure gulch]

holy

[restive warren]

Oh look SAB

[pure gulch]

what do you know

[restive warren]

Worried too fast

[leaden obsidian]

Mirages subsume

[pure gulch]

thats great

[restive warren]

And that's why I don't worry until stuff is implimented

[worldly dome]

Hey Kath, quickly hop off that high horse for me

[lyric lotus]

well...hoard FORMA pirates!

[worldly dome]

We don't know the availability of these element switcher items

[leaden obsidian]

Idek what’s goin on, can’t watch the stream(partly due to connection being wonky and cause shopping)

[worldly dome]

Even so, progenitor is a much better system

But this is much better than waiting on rotations

[restive warren]

You need to forma 5 time.

[leaden obsidian]

I rather HOARD forma than hoard FORMA

[wooden plover]

and if im running mirage and already have eclipse? any non-exclusive buffs for it that work as subsumed instead?

[worldly dome]

They said 5 forma + max rank and then you can use an item to change the element

[lyric lotus]

steve me like warfarm

[leaden obsidian]

Not that I know of

[lofty garden]

What's that new currency?

[restive warren]

Oh no, stuff you'll end up getting a lot of over time

[leaden obsidian]

Maybe kullervos wrathful advance

[restive warren]

OMG CAUSTACYST LOOK MEAN

[urban harness]

truly
the amount of forma you need is x+2

where x is the amount you have

[lyric lotus]

well....

[leaden obsidian]

I wonder what prices of caustacyst rivens will be

[leaden obsidian]

Sevagoth as a beam weapon?

[lyric lotus]

fart weapon more like

[restive warren]

Unhand him rn

[worldly dome]

😐 no shot I need to go farm more Parazon mods

[leaden obsidian]

Sombra might like using it

[leaden obsidian]

It’s a lich so I’d imagine so

[worldly dome]

Not the existing Requiem mods though

an entire new suite of mods

[pure gulch]

i still think that's probably gonna be more fun to get the mods than requiem relics

[restive warren]

They already warned about that 😭

[leaden obsidian]

oh no, and it’s bounty rng

[lyric lotus]

and we get back to parazon...again.

[lofty garden]

As opposed to relic RNG?

[restive warren]

Time to go back to spam bounties 🫡

[worldly dome]

Two sides of the same dirty coin

[leaden obsidian]

Eh you right

[lyric lotus]

what the phak!

two mods.

[leaden obsidian]

Bounty rng is more forgiving

[leaden obsidian]

2 mods? What are they

[worldly dome]

not in my experience

[pure gulch]

depends on the mission it might not be that bad

[lyric lotus]

potency and anti virus for coda

[leaden obsidian]

Fair

[leaden obsidian]

Potency and anti virus?

[lyric lotus]

parazon mods i guess..

[pure gulch]

antivirus is the parazon mods and the antivirus mods were somethingh else

[restive warren]

That pink bike and rhino on it is killing me rn

[leaden obsidian]

Hmmm

[hollow marten]

don't you just love it when you've destroyed all props and end up with this...

[worldly dome]

Rhino Heirloom completely subverts his design, that Iron Skin animation is just odd

[swift niche]

Ouch

[restive warren]

Is it me or the new dual pistol sounds similarish to Toxocyst?

[leaden obsidian]

I await more info kath

[restive warren]

They just showing gameplay

[lyric lotus]

kinda but faster

[restive warren]

And more... Punch?

[leaden obsidian]

Ah, boring

[pearl parcel]

hey pix, spot the sniper

and no, the guy leaning on the building is not the sniper, thats just a guy

[restive warren]

Dammit

[worldly dome]

are they supposed to be camoflagued?

[pearl parcel]

very

[leaden obsidian]

Dang it

[worldly dome]

Found him immediately lmao

[pearl parcel]

no sab, the guy standing near the building isnt the sniper

[leaden obsidian]

I have a feeling he’s in the back

[worldly dome]

I know that

[pearl parcel]

thats just a guy

circle him then

[lyric lotus]

what's that spot in the middle between the lane?

[lofty garden]

Cross and Mactics are both streaming the devstream. 🙂

[worldly dome]

The guy next to the building isn't standing up in plain sight in contrasting colours

[lofty garden]

I wish Bungie would take notes.

[lyric lotus]

loL!

[pearl parcel]

thats not the sniper either

thats a farmer

[lyric lotus]

bungie and taking notes from wf devs?

[worldly dome]

yeah dude i know, i'm not saying that's the sniper

i'm saying that's blatantly not the sniper

[leaden obsidian]

Found him

[pearl parcel]

wrong, thats the farmer i was talking about

[leaden obsidian]

I think I found him

[lost scroll]

How good is the Kuva Sobek?

Got a new lich

[pearl parcel]

where

[worldly dome]

poor quality image so hard to tell which of the splodges are image noise or people but I think it's this guy right here

again, very poor image quality

[pearl parcel]

thats anotehr farmer

[toxic umbra]

bro

the sniper is next to that red thing

[leaden obsidian]

[worldly dome]

ok well with the quality of the image it's not possible to tell apart a clown or donald trump in this image

[pearl parcel]

THAT is the sniper

[placid flare]

Beside the red thing

[leaden obsidian]

There ain’t nothin there

[pearl parcel]

thats a log

[placid flare]

[toxic umbra]

that is not a log

who u lying to??

[worldly dome]

I kinda just wanna know the names of the other 2 unique Coda weapons and hop off

[leaden obsidian]

No one

[toxic umbra]

not you haha

[restive warren]

I hope the rest of your day will be better

And I will feel stupid for being hyped for the weapon I've waiting for ages, in the corner.

[worldly dome]

My day is going 100% fine. Disliking something in Warframe doesn't mean I'm emotional or having a bad day.
It's possible for something to not appeal to everyone.

[leaden obsidian]

Ik, I was answering for sleepy

[worldly dome]

I'm unlucky enough that 90% of this stream is not appealing to me

[pearl parcel]

like i said, thats the sniper

[leaden obsidian]

that’s a [redacted]

[pearl parcel]

hes hiding in a ghillie suit in the wheat field

[restive warren]

It is possible I guess it's the way you've been... Unhyped about everything (that I've noticed so far, I might have missed things)... Reminds me of how my friend gets when she had a bad day and she's like just the most calm and say "Yeah this suck" the vibe of how you're typing it all. It's just 100% same-ish

Which is sorta impressive.

[worldly dome]

You can just take people's words at face value you know
You don't have to try and diagnose people

The only thing in this stream I've enjoyed seeing is the Iron Skin cosmetic changes

That's not endemic of a deeper problem

[pearl parcel]

hoesntly idk what that is, but it aint the sniper

[leaden obsidian]

I already pointed that out

[pearl parcel]

thats the sniper, vibing in a wheat field

[restive warren]

I didn't know people having a bad day means they have some type of mental issue...

[worldly dome]

I'm not having a bad day lmfao

[lyric lotus]

i just took the discrepancies with the pixels lol

[restive warren]

No I got that

[worldly dome]

Actually having a pretty decent and uneventful one

Family away for a few days, got some snacks in, just had a BBQ chicken pizza

ooooo Scaldra weapons

[lyric lotus]

btw you playin sniper elite? seem familier.

[worldly dome]

there we go, now i'm interested

[wooden plover]

thanks ill try that

[orchid oak]

Is the immodem any good?

Just got a riven for it, so

[worldly dome]

1999 as a whole is very much not my vibe but Scaldra have been really well designed

so Scaldra weapons is a ✅ from me

[pearl parcel]

Ghost Recon Breakpoint

[restive warren]

We all have our preference

[lyric lotus]

umm

[restive warren]

I'm just glad there's a lot of diff stuff in warframes

I am very picky with weapon, like awfully. I wish I was less picky.

[worldly dome]

would appreciate if the 60th Warframe was a support frame

😐

[restive warren]

GYRE DELUXE FINALLY

[worldly dome]

gyre? fr?

[stoic solar]

WOO

[restive warren]

SHUSH IT I WANT THE DAMN BOOTS OFF YESTERDAY

[worldly dome]

i'ma just stay out of this and let the Gyre diehards enjoy

[still loom]

Why did my lich die when I killed it on Cassini it didn’t even show a weapon it just died

[worldly dome]

this is not developed for me

[lucid pendant]

Reminds me of Corpus outfits.

[restive warren]

The weapons I'm not a fan tho.

[worldly dome]

Steampunk is a design concept that's been beaten to death honestly

[restive warren]

Where?

[lucid pendant]

Like, if they had Gyre Deluxe standing next to Nef Anyo, I'd believe they came to the party together.

[worldly dome]

Just in all forms of media over the past like 10-15 years

[restive warren]

It's an easy one tho

I'll take Steampunk over Victorian

[lyric lotus]

why not both

mix em up

[worldly dome]

both are pretty much the same

[restive warren]

Because depending what side of Victorian you go with, it can go horribly.

[restive warren]

Maybe if you mix them up

[lyric lotus]

what if i like to be horrible?

[restive warren]

Check Nightgale, so many outfits I just can't.

I really want to like 'em. But there's

[lucid pendant]

Pennyfarthing atomicycle when? 😆

[restive warren]

... Well it's a style

Shopping cart

[lyric lotus]

can we ride it?

[restive warren]

What next? Battle Royal

We can just beat each other while riding 'em I guess 🤷🏻‍♀️

[pure gulch]

next up hatsune miku

[lofty garden]

what are we up to, 76k MR?

[worldly dome]

ok, QoL, come on, please cook 🙏🏼

[restive warren]

I don't think we'll get an old systems QoL anytime soon. But I'd love one soon

[leaden obsidian]

Battle royale*

[worldly dome]

I meant just anything interesting/good/needed tbh

[restive warren]

Like older warframes like Obe n'stuff?

[lucid pendant]

Hmmm. They want to go deeper with the roleplaying.

[worldly dome]

I don't mean reworks but that's always good

[lofty garden]

Well, YOU want to go deeper with the roleplaying.

[still loom]

What requirements are needed to get a kuva lich

[worldly dome]

complete the War Within

I think that's it

[lucid pendant]

Not me. 😦

People like it though.

[lofty garden]

The royal "YOU".

[worldly dome]

idk whose h*rny ahh is wanting all these RP and romance options but they need to stay away from my general vicinity

Big fan of less Defence waves

yeah Duviri defence has always been better imo

OMNI FORMA :O

[restive warren]

select duplicate mods 😭

[worldly dome]

THESE are good QoL changes

Disband randoms 🙏🏼 😭

thank the gods

[restive warren]

IKR

It was so awkward to wait and hope this random person fudge off

[lofty garden]

I just left squad after every exit

[restive warren]

And then they try to select random mission and you're just "well time to leave and regroup I guess"

[worldly dome]

Yeah for me it was just a race to leave squad to requeue a mission i'm farming

[lofty garden]

Which, on a controller is a lot of gerfingerpokin

Defense from 5 to 3... we'll see.

[sick plover]

FINALLY.

[lucid pendant]

I've occasionally ran a few extra missions with randoms, but more often than not the team disbands because we're all doing our own things.

[pure gulch]

le exalted arcanes

[worldly dome]

bro cooked

[pure gulch]

holy moly

[restive warren]

Pseudo exalted rework?!

[fair flame]

Rip ceramic dagger damage cheese.

[restive warren]

I'm nervous, might vomit

[worldly dome]

I don't find myself using any exalteds except Titania so this isn't too impactful for me

Most are pretty bad

[restive warren]

That'll teach me to eat before devstream

[fair flame]

https://tenor.com/view/one-punch-man-punch-serious-gif-12250021

It's Atlas time

[restive warren]

Fist-

You thought, well you thought right.

[fair flame]

Omni forma?! Rip any mega builds just throw anything in

[lofty garden]

But where do aura forma BPs come from??

[fair flame]

Glad I have 200 of them stored in my foundry

[lofty garden]

It is only Arby's?

[restive warren]

I'm just doing terrible joke to find relief from the stress I'm currently feeling about pseudo exalted rework

[fair flame]

I get mine from teshen

[worldly dome]

All the mfers who have been playing Warframe for 30 years with 999999 Warframe slots just so they can use 17 different Saryn builds are malding over that Omni Forma change

[lofty garden]

Aura?

[still loom]

I finished the war within but it doesn’t let me get a lich

[restive warren]

TFD indirectly pushed 'em to do that. They work on a similar system.

It was bound to happen sooner or later

[worldly dome]

TFD?

[lucid pendant]

You know what they could do? They could make endless boss missions. They just keep getting up and going through their motions.

[restive warren]

The First Descendant

[worldly dome]

I know nothing about that game other than it being gooner bait

[lofty garden]

They Standing'ed the capacity system

[red vale]

Wwww wwwww

[restive warren]

You can forma same slot over and over with different polarity. but you keep said polarity (In TFD)

[worldly dome]

Completely missed whatever Pablo just said. Something about mod capacity with Rhino?

[eager light]

E

[lofty garden]

All people get 15 base capacity now.

[sick plover]

Aura forma will be changed to Omni-forma, so its where aura forma is obtained, you get omni

[red vale]

Change polarity

[worldly dome]

What is it rn?

[lofty garden]

equals your MR.

[neat pelican]

Nice

[worldly dome]

Interesting

[restive warren]

I mean it has decent boss fight if you compare to warframe. It's decent, could use some work. I'm assuming it's gonna be a lot more drama like how generally Destiny players don't like Warframe player. Type of thing

[neat pelican]

Wait, does it reduce from 30 for me?

[lofty garden]

And every time you go up a rank, you get 2 capacity.

[quiet schooner]

ok de, this is big W for u , disbanding randoms

[lofty garden]

no, doesn't reduce.

[sick plover]

I wish i can hug DE just for the omni-forma thing alone

[neat pelican]

Okay cool

[sick plover]

i was talking about it for YEARS

[restive warren]

I'm talking about TFD. Because we are watching Warframe Devstream and there's an omni forma coming up. Scroll up for more context

[worldly dome]

As a very active D2 player, and as of 2024 a very active Warframe player, neither community talks about each other that much

[sick plover]

aura forma could've been omni on release

[worldly dome]

D2 players don't hate WF players. WF players don't hate D2 players.

THIS IS THE BIGGEST W EVER 😭

[restive warren]

There was a time, there was a lot of fight. It comes and goes. They generally don't really fight each other unless someone says "X is better than X" but once you get that started Oh boi, you're in for a ride

[worldly dome]

I spend so much time crunching dupe mods

[lofty garden]

Yeah, Aura forma BPs only come from Arby's.

[sick plover]

i love you DE.

[neat pelican]

Clean

Nice

[worldly dome]

So clean, so needed

[sick plover]

spring-cleaning is gonna be so much better

[restive warren]

You mean I won't have to click each one so I get to keep 1 extra anymore

[atomic fulcrum]

Either delulu or didn't really play d2 enough the average d2 player has less IQ than an ardvaark and is more toxic than any other gaming community

[restive warren]

Count me in, sign me in. I want it rn I want it yesterday, I want it last year

[worldly dome]

I wonder if there will be an option to ignore equipped mods no matter what rank/rarity/etc.

[restive warren]

Maybe it depends on season..?

[worldly dome]

In terms of toxicity, the casual D2 players are the most toxic in the community.
The endgame players are busy breaking speedrun/lowman records, 1-phasing bosses in blinding speed, using their voices to push for better experiences for new/casual players.
The casuals are busy on Twitter complaining that someone with 500hrs using a specific weapon thinks it needs a 2% nerf to give other weapons a shot at relevance.

[atomic fulcrum]

This is pretty accurate

[restive warren]

Yeah I was about to say

[worldly dome]

There's a reason D2's devs listen to the players that have been in the community since D1's alpha

They're right

[lofty garden]

Vault space.

That is the biggest problem with Destiny.

[worldly dome]

Vault space is a non-issue.

Hoarders need to stop being given a voice

[lofty garden]

It's very much an issue unless you like re-grinding for gear constantly.

[atomic fulcrum]

Especially with crafting vault space has been irrelevant for a long time

[restive warren]

Do you have enough space for the equivalents of prime here or?

[lucid pendant]

I wonder how Railjack would make courier missions work.

[lyric lotus]

it didn't fixed yet?

[restive warren]

Oh if you can craft space it's fine then

[lofty garden]

No, doesn't work the way it works in Warframe. Every item you obtain is "unique". Think of it like Riven mods.

And there's a hard cap on vault slots.

[timid berry]

Guitar warframe was just mentioned

[restive warren]

Like Borderlands guns sorta?

[lofty garden]

Yes.

[restive warren]

huh

[lyric lotus]

which bungie could easily fix, but nope...

[worldly dome]

This is my Destiny 2 vault in the literal final days of the current season; infusion fuel, seasonal weapons I chucked in there that I haven't checked yet, unused armour that I haven't pruned yet

[lyric lotus]

they just want to keep it as is...

[worldly dome]

This is my vault at its messiest

[atomic fulcrum]

Ish exotics have fixed stats so vault is pretty irrelevant

[restive warren]

Time to never play that game I'll put up with it in a looter shooter

Not something like warframeish

Or other way around idc about semantics

[worldly dome]

I have at least 1 copy of every exotic armour, all relevant exotic weapons, a handful of PvP weapons, bunch of weapons that are just there for coverage for different champions/surges etc.

[lofty garden]

I don't care what your vault looks like, I care that when someone says go get a void 120 pistol out of the vault, it's there for me.

[lyric lotus]

is glimmer cap been extended?

[worldly dome]

it's 500k rn

[restive warren]

And it all fits? I'm p sure that's all that matters then

[lyric lotus]

ahh!

[lofty garden]

I think it hit 500k and stopped.

[lyric lotus]

at least something new lol

[lofty garden]

No, it doesn't all fit if you go with element/weapon archtype.

[fair flame]

New frame whooo

[lofty garden]

Especially when you start looking at perks.

[fair flame]

Rock and roll frame let's strike!

[restive warren]

The helmet on this new Warframe 😩 I thought it was an equinox deluxe skin at first

[atomic fulcrum]

You can fit literally one of every elemental weapon type every exotic armor and 90% of exotic weapons and still have space

[worldly dome]

It's good enough to have a copy of every single weapon type per element; the frames of said weapons do not matter

There's no benefit to having a 120 void handcannon, a 140 one, a 180 one

[lofty garden]

No, you cannot, not when you add on perks for PvE vs PvE.

There isn't, right up to the point that Bungie changes something and there is.

[worldly dome]

Also, if you're hoarding guns for that kinda coverage you're playing the game wrong

[restive warren]

Did I accidentally started a thing

[atomic fulcrum]

Super excessive

[worldly dome]

4 MORE PROTO FRAMES, CUT THE D2 TALK

WHAT

[lyric lotus]

if i look into my vault in destiny 2 i am pretty sure i will find weapon from before forsaken lol

[lofty garden]

Bungie's telling me to play the game this way, so saying I'm "wrong" is saying Bungie's wrong, and I agree with that.

[worldly dome]

Bungie's not telling you to keep one of every reissue of Hung Jury brother

[lofty garden]

Bungie says these modififers this day for these game modes.

[red vale]

W stream

[worldly dome]

Could you give a more specific example bc I'm having a hard time figuring out what you're keeping these weapons for brother

Like, what game modes would you need specifically a Void 120 Hand Cannon for

over a better Void HC of any other frame

[lyric lotus]

saw their recent Episode reveal, seems like them bringing back dreadnaught?

[worldly dome]

Yep, vibes are immaculate. Now Bungie just has to deliver on gameplay.

[lofty garden]

You can replace the weapon and element and perks with <insert update notes here> That's how they've conditioned the playerbase.

[red vale]

No destiny talk here damn imagine talking about a dead game

[restive warren]

https://www.twitch.tv/warframe It's about to be over I think tho

[lyric lotus]

that make me kinda itchy to get back but...i'll hold on to that

[worldly dome]

D2 promo material is always 10/10, there's some wizards in Bungie's marketing dept I swear
The gameplay is always unpredictable

I enjoy the vast majority of D2 content alot more than most, I admit

[worldly dome]

bruh stfu

[red vale]

Thank god I ditched over hyped d2 and sticked to warframe

[lyric lotus]

if they wouldn't make the massive fluff with LF i'd continue playing it honestly

[tired nova]

I skipped destiny cause i was poor lol

[red vale]

9 YO response

[worldly dome]

Not trying to d-ride Bungie but Destiny 2 after 10 years of content is more exciting than First Descendant in its infancy

[restive warren]

I'm just gonna take the blame for bringing it up tbf

[lofty garden]

You can't access most of it. 🙂

[worldly dome]

u good

[tired nova]

Like if they want people to play their game least they could do is make it a wee bit easier to actually play the Damm game

[worldly dome]

D2's vaulted content is a minority of total content

[red vale]

Destiny is overhyped garbage

[lofty garden]

Again, can't access most of it.

[tired nova]

True

[lyric lotus]

kinda fact...raids, thats the only word i'd apply which is better in many ways in D2 except LF raid lol

[red vale]

Utter garbage 🗑️

[tired nova]

I'm just wondering who the new protoframes are

[tired nova]

Now now the gameplay itself is good

[red vale]

We find out on the 28th

[restive warren]

I mean TFD super new tho

[tired nova]

Well yeah I know

[chrome fossil]

I saw on reddit we getting arcanes on exalted + omniformas?

[restive warren]

It's sorta unfair to compare TFD, but I get what you're trying to say

[tired nova]

Bet you money we get rhino and loki

[lyric lotus]

problem with TFD is they putting up only skins and decendents with so little content to go through.

[lofty garden]

Yeah, Aura forma become Omni forma for all polarities on all slots except Umbra.

[restive warren]

Idk how many years D2 has in and I think Warframe is 11 or so?

[restive warren]

Yeah that's been a problem.

[lyric lotus]

almost same as wf

[worldly dome]

WF and D1 were released in the same year I think

[lyric lotus]

yep

[lofty garden]

Can finally stick a forma on my exilus slots.

[tired nova]

Probably ash and...ember or frost

Better yet ember and frost being a brother and sister duo or smth

[restive warren]

Yeah D2 learned from D1 so. Well

[lofty garden]

D2 faceplanted Y1. It was not pretty.

[restive warren]

I don't actually know if dev teams have anything to do with each other but still

[lyric lotus]

IF bungie one day says, them bringing back all the vaulted contents in the game again..i will jump in a wimp

[red vale]

Warframe is superior d2 is genuinely a bad game

[lyric lotus]

which never gonna happen

[atomic fulcrum]

Tbf cant really compare games that have a decade plus of post launch development to a newly launched game

[restive warren]

But yeah I'll admit TFD biggest issue is how much they are prioritizing skins above content. Also too much freebees (?spelling?) around Christmas, made everyone that started then have wrong ideas.

[worldly dome]

I can't believe people actually mourn the vaulted content.
Vaulting content should not be a thing but... it's not even close to the best content the game has ever produced... It's not worth the tears it gets.

[honest pine]

W PABLO WTF

[atomic fulcrum]

D2 compared to its active time is pretty garbage

[red vale]

So Omni’s forma you change polarity?

[bright vine]

anyone got the stream rundown image?

[lofty garden]

Yeah, Pablo did good. 🙂

[tired nova]

It's got good gameplay, the monetization sucks

[restive warren]

I'm not here saying TFD better or warframe better or D2 better. I don't give a fudge, I personally prefer Wf. I like the bossing in TFD that's all.

[atomic fulcrum]

Enjoyable garbage but still garbage

[lyric lotus]

thats the issue with TFD. They need some good content in the game.

[worldly dome]

... what did pablo do?

[lofty garden]

Omni forma is universal forma (except Umbra)

[timid berry]

It's like how it works in tfd

[worldly dome]

I turned off the stream when it ended

[red vale]

This

[restive warren]

They have some, the problem is there's so little content for now because of how new it is. And normally people that get into TFD comes from D2/D1 or Warframe. And we have so much content due to how long those been out.

[red vale]

End game is farming Omni’s forma

[timid berry]

@atomic fulcrum hello beautiful man catch this hug and bro love 🫂

[lofty garden]

So you can use regular forma still to set a polarity, or you can use an Omni forma to make a slot universal polarity, like the way Aura forma works today in the Aura mod slot.

[tired nova]

All the new stuff is cool and all

But like anyone got good ideas on ephemeras to use on aoi?

[atomic fulcrum]

Like ngl i don't actually enjoy warframe much due to the repetitive mission loop that hasn't changed much in a decade

But its still a good game

[lofty garden]

Defense is now 3 waves, not 5.

[restive warren]

I'm also not trying to "replace" warframe with it. I just want... Well Bossing I guess? That's not Eidolons, because eidolons melt my brains. PT irks me

[red vale]

Personal preference

What about 10 waves ?

It should be 7 now ?

[tired nova]

?

[pure gulch]

we'll see

the defense change comes with the update so around march either way

[restive warren]

One of those sister ephemera, it makes metal triange float.

[lofty garden]

What, defense? 10 becomes 6.

[restive warren]

I forgot the exact name of it but it work thematically

[tired nova]

Oh yeah sure just completly ignore the question thanks

[lofty garden]

It's like Circuit.

[worldly dome]

wait wtf

[tired nova]

I have the magnetic sister ephemera actually

Problem is that it kinda sucks

[worldly dome]

https://fxtwitter.com/PlayWarframe/status/1885428580420657556

wtf???

This wasn't in the stream???

[lofty garden]

They showed it on the stream.

[tired nova]

It was

[restive warren]

??

[worldly dome]

No tf they did not

[lofty garden]

We all watched it...

[worldly dome]

am i blind or something

[tired nova]

Yeah...they did

[red vale]

???????????

[pure gulch]

it was at the end

[worldly dome]

Did the stream turn back on or something?

[atomic fulcrum]

This means literally go by your own preference instead of just wasting peoples time iirc

[tired nova]

Did you close the stream after the musicians said bye tenno?

[pure gulch]

no it was just there

[worldly dome]

I turned it off the second the end screen played

[lofty garden]

No, that was SoulFrame.

Where it broke about 5min into the stream.

[timid berry]

Octavia 2.0 with a exalted guitar😩😩😩 I hope that'd what they do

[restive warren]

Hypatia ephemera is

[tired nova]

Helps to have people to bounce ideas off of, also I don't own every ephemera in game so maybe there's one that I just don't have and don't know exists

[lofty garden]

The one everyone wants is the Verv one from Twitch Prime.

[timid berry]

Look em up

[restive warren]

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Ephemera#Hypatia_

[atomic fulcrum]

Even then its just everyones individual preferences youll have to find what you like on your own tbh

[tired nova]

Oh the rad one, yeah I could farm for it, which warframss are rad progens?

[red vale]

They been cooking after they came back from holidays

[summer slate]

blep

[atomic fulcrum]

Some people got some super ugly fashion frame preferences

[summer slate]

someone get a screenshot of Temple?

[timid berry]

We have 2 wiki look it up

[spice axle]

Looks good for the future updates, but- pseudo exalted being exalted are making me a little sad with all thos ceramic dagger and magistar builds

[restive warren]

This is the same pose

[timid berry]

Hater

[red vale]

@summer slate

[tired nova]

Hmmmm...na I think it's best if i have someone offer an idea

Like wjat kitty Kath did and reminded me the sister rad ephemera is a thing, it's a good idea and I would've totally forgotten it if she hadn't mentioned it

[timid berry]

That's pure aura as the kids say

Looking up stuff too hard got u

[atomic fulcrum]

You can look them up on wiki what are we siri?

[restive warren]

Beep boop beep boop

[tired nova]

Gotta be fkn kidding me I don't own a single rad progenitor?

[lyric lotus]

the Astartes 2 trailer kinda awesome!

[worldly dome]

Sorry, just catching up on stuff, so 60th Warframe is called "Temple"?

[timid berry]

That was perfect and no one but me noticed 😂😂😂

[leaden obsidian]

[tired nova]

Why do you care?

[red vale]

Wait they will switch pseudo exalted to exalted ?

[atomic fulcrum]

I don't?

[leaden obsidian]

What weapon you need?

[worldly dome]

Not a fan of another music based Warframe if it's tied to the Technocytes but the design looks decent

[tired nova]

Then why are you dragging this out?

[spice axle]

ye, pseudo exalted rework, you'll mod them like exalted weaps

[lyric lotus]

[unique tartan]

People are gonna complain on how Temple won't be meta. I say to them with a question: "Who needs your 'meta strats' when you got the power of ROCK AND ROLL?"

[tired nova]

Na it's for the ephemera not the weapon

[red vale]

Gara / atlas

[leaden obsidian]

Ah

[spice axle]

Khora / exca

[lofty garden]

https://www.warframe.com/news/prime-gaming-verv-ephemera That's the one people kinda want, and should be coming back at some point.

[timid berry]

Garage gonna be bad

Unless they update stats

[tired nova]

It's out rn

[summer slate]

wait explain plx lmao

[lofty garden]

Did they put it into Nightwave?

I remember they did the armor.

[tired nova]

Prime resurgence scroll down

[spice axle]

No, maroo on mars

[lofty garden]

Oh, Maroo, there we go. Ok.

The first round lacked the ephemera.

[leaden obsidian]

Vazaria

[restive warren]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-argue-um-excuse-me-meme-i-want-to-suggest-ah-gif-16740228

[lofty garden]

Well, it's Maroo's relay. Varzia's just a vendor.

[timid berry]

@leaden obsidian

[hearty summit]

NO MORE PSEUDO EXALTS

[timid berry]

I loveth u

[hearty summit]

WOOOO

[final steeple]

ceramic dagger is gonna die

[restive warren]

Good

[hearty summit]

GOOD

[final steeple]

so are the rivens lol

[timid berry]

That's not a good thing....

[restive warren]

🤝

[hearty summit]

I don't care if red crit atlas is gone or whatever tbh

[restive warren]

Might not be, at first.

[timid berry]

Yes ofc u bring up a dumb youtuber bud as a arguement

It makes em weaker idc abt red crits

[hearty summit]

Yeah but pseudo exalts took away a weapon slot for building

[final steeple]

rivens

[restive warren]

I guess it did. More in certain case.

[final steeple]

sell em

[tired nova]

Finally a reason to build exalted blade!

[timid berry]

I don't see how thats a horrible thing u have other frames u can play ur nit that limited

[tired nova]

Wonder if this'll kill slash dash build tho

[restive warren]

I'm nervous how it'll play out. But I feel like it would have happened at some point anyways.

[timid berry]

This is not a good thing it's gonna mess uo too many builds forget the red crit garbage yall are so used to like it has a genuine bad to it

[hearty summit]

I think it's a bad thing in terms of it requiring me to sacrifice a weapon slot to play a frame I like

[restive warren]

It might kill off Khora and Valkyr for me, I use both a lot.

[lofty garden]

Oh, you mean the end of the stat stick economy?

[hearty summit]

Valkyr???

[atomic fulcrum]

stat sticks dumb anyways

[sick plover]

Good riddance to stat-sticks, never liked its gimmick.

[hearty summit]

^

[pure gulch]

I wouldn't imagine it kills them completely but they're just not as strong as before

[restive warren]

In that case it's because I had to brute force status in her build, less so because she's pseudo-exalted

[timid berry]

Ok ig enjoy worse damage unless they update the stats greatly

[sick plover]

especially in Duviri, you'd have to allign sun and moon to get a psuedo-exalt frame with your proper statstick.

[restive warren]

Sorry I had 2 tracks of thoughts going on at once. 💀

[hearty summit]

I will!!!

[atomic fulcrum]

i just am a filthy weapon platform enjoyer anyways

[lofty garden]

Tennokai and Arcane and you think they won't be good?

[timid berry]

Not u lol

[sick plover]

Anyhow, IM SO HAPPY WITH OMNI-FORMA, I WAS TALKING ABOUT IT FOR YEARS

[spice axle]

Exca, Gara, Khora and Atlas needing 4 to 6 formas again-

[tired nova]

I mean for true exalteds we get to use arcane and whatever new mods they allow too, so yeah actually they will get stronger

[timid berry]

I have 2 forma on my khora

[lofty garden]

i would like omni forma for weapons, or just make exilus universal...

[atomic fulcrum]

i just play whatever tanky frame and abuse primaries

[timid berry]

And fo tons of damage currently idk what build u use to that needs 6 but that's too much

[quaint brook]

Depends, the only thing magistar/ceramic dagger did was give slash dash a crit multiplier to affect. Since we're going to be able to mod for it directly, I suspect this will be a non issue very quickly

[sick plover]

Aura forma will be changed into Omni-forma, so it will.

[restive warren]

I mean they were planning to fix that for a while, they just never got around to it because they know how much people might hate it. So they probably thought it through considering they will let us use arcanes on exalted.

[lofty garden]

Aura forma's frame only, so...

[tired nova]

Eh I mean for the most part most guns don't need vastly different builds aside from like a bane mod or smth

[final steeple]

will it be an adapter?

[lofty garden]

They didn't seem to cover weapons in the reveal.

[atomic fulcrum]

shield gating and rolling guard are for nerds that cant play without a crutch anyways

[quaint brook]

Also iirc pabs said something about slash dash taking for EB's stats so there

[restive warren]

I don't think the first attempt will work for all pseudo-exalted

[summer slate]

is it just me, or are these starting to look like certain warframes? Wei see good candidates for Banshee, Atlas, Hydroid, and Inaros right here...

[sick plover]

I'd assume Omni-forma is usable on anything.

[spice axle]

I expect that they buff original stats of pseudo exalted because if not, it will be hard work to make them work at high level

[tired nova]

I mean my exalted blade build is all about heat damage so I doubt it'll matter too much to me

[sick plover]

its no longer limited to aura-slot only.

[atomic fulcrum]

tbf you can run pretty much anything in any content so it wont matter

[quaint brook]

But the pseudo exalteds have always been using its own stats the whole time?

[tired nova]

?!?!?

[lofty garden]

Yes, but umbra formas aren't limited to what slot they go on and they won't fit on primary/secondary weapons. Could easily be something like that.

[quaint brook]

The stats of the stack stick never mattered (barring magistar, ceramic and agendus) for the basic performance of pseudos

[restive warren]

The problem is between Pseudo exalted and exalted: You can't use Acolytes mods on Exalted.

[summer slate]

Just imagine - an Umbra warframe Aura

[atomic fulcrum]

and thats perfectly fine

[tired nova]

No, they were/are effected by the stats of the melee weapon you had equipped as well as whatever ability modifiers you had

[sick plover]

Omni forma;

• Repurposed Aura Forma
• Otherwise same crafting/plat costs
• Can give any slot, not just the Aura slot a universal polarity
• Universal Polarity excludes Umbra polarity as to keep Umbra Forma from being immediately pointless

[spice axle]

boosted with genesis and mods from weaps, genesis giving easily +30% status or crit chance, well without it you are at 5% with Atlas for example

[quaint brook]

Nope, they were affected by the mods on the melee, not the stats of the melee itself. There are only extremely few exceptions to this

[tired nova]

Or galvanized or some of the newer ones like elementslist

[timid berry]

Literally just said that

[tired nova]

My bad

[restive warren]

What? You can put galvamized mods on your exalted.

[sick plover]

i reckon they'd lift those rescrictions when it comes around

[spice axle]

Blood Rush is excluded isn't it ?

[sick plover]

perhaps we learn more in the upcoming dev workshop post

[summer slate]

tbh wei never understood what exalted vs pseudo exalted means

[sick plover]

would be stupid for it to exclude mods

[restive warren]

Blood rush is an acolyte mod. Idk why I still call them that still, as acolyte do their own things now

[tired nova]

I must be thinking of smth else then

[restive warren]

But that's correct, Weeping wounds and Blood Rush cannot be put on Exalted :)

[lofty garden]

So COARFF?

[restive warren]

Sorry for the old/wrong label. Certain things just don't die off in my brain

[spice axle]

Don't let that be on pseudo please DE lol

[sick plover]

for the longest time they came from acolytes, so thats why the name sticks

[tired nova]

Hope they buff the base stats a bit tho

[sick plover]

cant call em deimos mods, now can we?

[atomic fulcrum]

theres a reason you cant use certain mods on exalted and its a very good reason

[minor lava]

[sick plover]

im happy about element-switching the coda and other weapons

[restive warren]

Pseudo exalted always could because of stat-sticking.

[restive warren]

I'm hype

[spice axle]

Yes but next update ? We don't know

[tired nova]

Eh...I mean aside from baruuk, mesa, and the new cyte-09 exalted weapons just suck compared to real weapons

At least for those few frames I say lift the mod restrictions

[restive warren]

Let's be honest, we're probably loosing those mods. Which I'm sorta happy and sad at the same time. Getting tired of slotting CO, WW and BR

I'd like to see different stuff in my builds, ya know?

[spice axle]

Then put different thing in ya build

No one is forcing

[restive warren]

I can. It's not gonna hold SP

[timid berry]

they will need it otherwise ur damage will just do hardly anything so it would be a great way to not lose damage and have something thats useless

[restive warren]

I can't tell if you're having an attitude or not. it's hard to tell over text.

[restive warren]

At this point only way we can stop slotting Blood Rush and Weeping wounds is if it was built in the combo system itself.

[spice axle]

just hope it'll not destroy those pseudo exalted

[restive warren]

We'll see how it goes, Pablo cooks good 95% of the time. Oopsies happens, and it'll get fixed if it doesn't work.

How it'll get fixed 🤷🏻‍♀️

BUT all come in due time

[timid berry]

not all weapons use those anyways i dont htink u guys realize that meta and builds have been moving away from those mods only co has been used still blood rush and weeping wounds are becoming niche plaus we got rivens so if u need more crit u got a riven for that

[restive warren]

A bit yeah

It depends?

Because it seems the biggest thing right now is slam and heavy

So obviously you're tackling that entirely different

I used older weapons that's... More spammy I guess? Maybe more braindead depending how you look at it?

[spice axle]

I'm only talking about exalted and so, the futur of pseudo ones that will become exalted anyway, I understand now with BR and WW, but there isn't riven tho

[restive warren]

Yeah that's what I'm more worried about ngl

[timid berry]

my point was the mods arent mandatory at all at this point...

[restive warren]

I ramrodded as much status chance on Valkyr claws (Yes I know it's wrong, Idc, it's preference)

Because I don't always bring a primer, I often forget to swap sheez so I can't afford to just not

[timid berry]

maybe for pseudo exalts cuz ur pretty much screwing the system that works rn

u can only mod for crit on her

[restive warren]

I think the only exalted that really doesn't work at all is Diwata. I mean I'm sure you can kill if you want, but it's so...

[timid berry]

i tried status tooo only garuda can get 100 status and crit on her claws

[restive warren]

Yeah but Garuda has better status on her claws

Valkyr starts with 10% (And a dream)

[spice axle]

diwata people just put slash to buff the butterflies

[restive warren]

Yeah I use it as stat stick for my butterfly too

I just... put as many dmg mods as I could possibly ramrod in there

[spice axle]

I think... I did the same...

[restive warren]

My butterflies issue not mine anymore 💀

I used to find the idea funny, just razorflies flying around with massive sword sorta sold it to me

I mean imagine

[spice axle]

Well, if you can put arcane on it and such, I will complain if it destroyed my atlas beloved, be ready peoples for the next time !

[restive warren]

I think we'll be fine. At worst on release it's gonna be ew, and then they'll tweak it some more and it'll be just 👌🏻

Considering they've been waiting a looooooooooong time before wacking Pseudo-exalted, they had probably plenty of time thinking on it and are approaching with the safest approach.

I think biggest issue is people assuming everything is gonna be perfect from get-go

[leaden obsidian]

[restive warren]

Anyone has claws build for Valkyr so I can compare and then proceed to regret even more putting umbra forma in there before they added galvanized mods?

[dawn panther]

What's the best way to build MR,is the circuit still good ?

[restive warren]

Did you subsume over War cry? or it's back up plan in case you ran out of energy

[pure gulch]

and sometimes it feels like people assume the worst immediately

[timid berry]

thats terrible

[spice axle]

no, I use war cry at full potential that's why I dropped attack speed mod

[sick plover]

one thing with the new wiki is, i wish we could type wf.wiki and be redirected into wiki.warframe.com

like OSRS and RS3 have OSRS.wiki and rs.wiki that redirect to oldschool.runescape.wiki and runescape.wiki respectively.

[restive warren]

I used to do that, and it made my stress go way up: It's already up. I don't need more. It can take a number and wait for its turn

[spice axle]

Oh ye I did subsume her 1st with WA

[restive warren]

You use the 3 sometime?

[spice axle]

never

but since I don't have range either I only use her 2nd and 4th

[restive warren]

Ah that's v fair

I use the line anyways but erh... I can feel the difference from the old build that didn't have narrow-minded tho

At this point I'd be better off putting the "leap" augment but without range I think... it's just a wasted slot too

[spice axle]

people want a rework, I understand since there is only 2 abilities used, but just a QoL like Nyx would be neat I think

[red vale]

#builds-discussion

[restive warren]

I have very bad experience there so I don't use that channel anymore

It used to be "You ask for builds" then you get at least 3 people to argue with you and each other about how wrong they are about using x or y thing. Idk how it is nowdays tho

[spice axle]

just putting my builds, explaining and people are like "why not try this and this"

gently*

[lucid ivy]

Did we get a release date for the echoes update?

[timid berry]

youre not gonna like my answer but it does insane damage even without wrathful advance but heavy slam with her claws i promise u its good animation for it is fast too from startup to recovery its insane if energy is a issue u just run lycaths hunt and run glad set for ur crit

[fathom cipher]

istg

[restive warren]

They do gently now? 🥹 Can we keep them

[leaden obsidian]

I’ll watch and put input if I have any

[fathom cipher]

nourish is more than enough for valkyr claws

[timid berry]

no

tried it already

[fathom cipher]

for most content yes not ur dmg cap stuff

[leaden obsidian]

I still hate you, you got me into mirage

[fathom cipher]

my most played of the year is mirage

[spice axle]

time to time, hard defender of certain frame will spit on you, otherwise if you seek help, it's now ok

[leaden obsidian]

[timid berry]

mine is dagath for obvious reasons

[leaden obsidian]

This is mine, oddly enough

[spice axle]

mesa I did build her this year-

[timid berry]

that only happned because our teamate used nourish while i had wrathful on that was not planned 🤣

[leaden obsidian]

Idk how ember got on the list, she was gotten near the end of the year

[restive warren]

Doesn't Heavy slam has it's own fixed range?

[timid berry]

torid casual

[fathom cipher]

😭😭😭 from the beginning months. not as of recent so it looks so bad 😭🙏

[timid berry]

i think but its decent range

[leaden obsidian]

Idk how harmony got on the list, I barely used it

[timid berry]

literally nothing but s tier frames

[fathom cipher]

guys i wonder what my most used melee is

[restive warren]

Your magistar has now been exposed sir

[timid berry]

shut up XD

[fathom cipher]

it was bcs i kept askin q and a chat on what frames to get next 😭

i was clueless back in like feb-april

[restive warren]

The timing for that was perfect btw as I was perfect

[fathom cipher]

july is where i really started gettin properly into wf

80.92% of my kills so so bad

[restive warren]

heavy attack valkyr probably less carpal tunnel to play vs spin

[fathom cipher]

yes very yes

i should make a separate config for that. im on spin to win rn lol

[restive warren]

Idk what it is with Valkyr, but spin valkyr you need the perfect amount of attack speed if you don't want cramps

I hope they polish that up at some point, you can tell the stance is old as hek (breathing our air probably)

[fathom cipher]

i have it i stack it all up so its perfect when i have warcry up

[sick plover]

lmao, Lavos primed himself

[fathom cipher]

its p comfy spin to win but i should try heavy valkyr

[restive warren]

What a legend

[restive warren]

I'll will wait 'till aura forma rework ngl

[spice axle]

spin valkyr if I remember is 6 hits with high crit chance, very comfy to use, and easy to build up heavy attacks with discipline's merit :]

[restive warren]

What do you mean you need nitain.

[fathom cipher]

once im at 12x combo im hittin insane numbers per spin

[leaden obsidian]

he told ballas “I’m gonna prime myself”

[spice axle]

i can't see sht when I spin, I need to stop, build merit and do a heavy to see those millions lmao

[restive warren]

I like being a blender :(

[spice axle]

I have bad reflexes so most of the time I miss tennokai and just build my combo again

but fine things, if you push before tennokai but tennokai pop, you just have to activate tennokai before your animation is finished

[empty scroll]

Fabulouized himself

[eternal quartz]

I'm gonna copter so hard the moment I get my hands on Dual Zoren Prime

[timid berry]

r u ingame i can send u the build for her claws

[restive warren]

Yes plz

[empty scroll]

Volt and Gauss mains with dual Zoren primes coming out of the woodworks

[restive warren]

I'm getting overwhelmed by Amir and I stared at it for 12mins now because idk if I read that already or not

[spice axle]

remember that time when I used to go speed cap and couldn't make an entire combo, was stuck at the first blow repeating endlessly

[leaden obsidian]

Wut

[restive warren]

Amir needs to slow down

I'm too slow for this man

[leaden obsidian]

Skill issue

[fathom cipher]

im a pro reader all i do is read

[restive warren]

Idk everything turn into soup if I read too much

[tender perch]

I like all the warframe lore

[fathom cipher]

i dont even scroll i just read 😦

[restive warren]

As far as I'm concerned anything Amir send me is just crab raving

[sick plover]

READERS? IN MY WARFRAME?

IMPOSSIBLE.

[leaden obsidian]

[spice axle]

crab raving under cafeine

[fathom cipher]

only thing i remember from amir is fables and frontiers

[spice axle]

warframe player =/ yu-gi-oh player

[tender perch]

I wish we could have our Protoframe partners in our orbiter

[sick plover]

Warframe players are like yu-gi-oh players, they never read!

[spice axle]

LMAO

[fathom cipher]

i played yugioh and can confirm i didnt read

[restive warren]

Do you have to translate back n'forth so your brain make it make sense 😭