gameplay-discussion

[cunning swift]

Alright, so essentially farming up one of every prime to keep and then selling dupes after the fact for more plat is gonna be the better way to go?

[balmy cove]

I have several unveiled riven mods for guns i dont have. What is the best way to sell these? I can't even figure out what a good price is because I dont see these specific ones with the same stats on warframe.market

[indigo bramble]

more or less.

[indigo bramble]

I know people do "unrolled" prices for certain guns, if the stats aren't worth anything.

I'm no market guru tho

[balmy cove]

how would you know the stats if you havent rolled or unveiled it yet?

[indigo bramble]

"veiled" has a flat price per gun type.

but unveiled = you know the gun

[balmy cove]

I gotcha

[wide sparrow]

does fortuna offer/unlock anything that is a straight power boost or new system to boost your power (like helminth)? Ive gotten a decent amp and filled my arcane slots from cetus and am moving on to deimos for helminth but want to make sure im not skipping anything super important on fortuna

[worldly dome]

The only difference between a frame and its prime is minor stat buffs and some default polarities

[quick stone]

Archgun gyromags

[worldly dome]

1 exception, Umbra, since Excalibur Prime is in no-no jail

[quick stone]

Little duck also sells her own selection of amos and arcanes. Plus the warframes Hildryn and Baruuk.

Also kitguns and Moas from Zuud and Thursby.

Also Biz's companion mods.

[wide sparrow]

thanks!

also needed a tranq gun from biz apparently

[clear cedar]

Excalibur Prime has committed tax fraud and arson, eligible for parole in 2038

[worldly dome]

Pick up the Drill for mining, it's the best in the game

The nosam cutters from Cetus do not compare

[wide sparrow]

sunpoint plasma drill?

[worldly dome]

thats the one

[wide sparrow]

max rank seems like a lot of time investment if its more like cetus and less like deimos, also my archgun is garbage 😦 what is a good archgun to go for?

[quick stone]

Mausolon on Deimos? Larkspur Prime and Velocitus also.

[frosty crescent]

theres gotta be some good way of finding kubrow dens

[quick stone]

Velocitus on Cyte 09 is incredibly funny.

[frosty crescent]

just running random earth missions hoping to find one sucks

[wide sparrow]

my loadout screen says i have a mausolon but i have nfc where it would have come from

oh it came with the necramech maybe?

[quick stone]

Try sabotage? The second locker has a 3% of dropping an egg and your likely to run into dens searching for them.

[marsh linden]

You will get a good archgun when you make your first necramech

[marsh linden]

Thats the one lol

[quick stone]

Mausolon is free with your first necramech. Plus all of Necraloids archguns come with a free gyromag.

[wide sparrow]

yeah i apparently have that and have never realized it 😄

oh nice

[marsh linden]

You still need the archgun launcher from fortuna tho

[worldly dome]

I recently got to Rank 5 with Cetus and Fortuna finally, I need to make a list of all the stuff I can now buy and get to grinding

I was surprised to get Oxylus for free on rank up

[frosty crescent]

nm that mission had all the kubrow nests and i got one

[wide sparrow]

lol nice

wait til you start grinding for kavat scans

[frosty crescent]

oh huh there's a kavat starter kit

i dont think i have the segment yet tho

[quick stone]

You can get it from the dojo or Grineer Hyekka masters.

[frosty crescent]

i am clanless so probably will just farm them at some point

unless i join one in the meantime

[red vale]

Any way I can reverse my choice for this week circuit rotation I choose rifle riven at t10 did nt see the nami solo incarnon 💀💀💀💀

💀

[weak iron]

Corvas P is fun too

[ebon ore]

How does the Hellscrubber weak point account for damage?

[frosty crescent]

i love how out there some of these quests are

[worldly dome]

Nope. When you pick them it literally asks "are you sure? you're locked into this"

[red vale]

There was the nami solo incarnon now I have to wait

[worldly dome]

is that meant to mean something

i dont use melees really

[red vale]

Me too Iam a primary guy

Then this case gotta use a different melee incarnon

[thorn pawn]

Harrow prime or gauss prime

[weak iron]

Yes

[thorn pawn]

Wich ones better

[devout burrow]

gauss

[quick stone]

They're fundementally different frames, meant for different playstyles.
Harrow is better.

[weak iron]

Does Gauss' unkillableness need his 4 active? Or is he literally just entirely unkillable?

[solemn spoke]

He needs the 4 for the 2 to go all the way up to 100

I don't remember if it caps at 20 or 80 without it

[kind hedge]

Dammit I just realized Saryn Prime's helmet is Asymmetrical

[pearl parcel]

hey sab, im making progress

[devout burrow]

80% battery with rank 4 fast delfection

[weak iron]

Ahh. Uggg, I hate the batter mechanic.

[frosty crescent]

ok i guess i need to go find an amp

[kind hedge]

Depends, if you use Kinetic Plating, that will be useless in SP without Redline active, but if you spam Thermal Sunder with Brief Respite, he is basically unkillable

[frosty crescent]

trying to do excalibur umbra quest and am doing 0 damage

[devout burrow]

pretty sure he meant the other immortality

gauss can get instant recharge delay to the point where only magnetic and toxin can kill him

[pearl parcel]

behold

it make a big steppy

[cunning swift]

Is toxin or heat better for kuva hek

[worldly dome]

... on?

[pearl parcel]

behold sab, it steps

[worldly dome]

i dont know what that means

[devout burrow]

toxin

[cunning swift]

Okay

[solemn spoke]

Is electric good on any particular Kuva weapon?

I have my eyes on the electric ephemera but I was wondering if I should just go with any weapon to hunt it down or focus a single one in case I don't get the ephemera I can at least get a good weapon

[frosty crescent]

ok this excalibur umbra mission lol

i hate it :D

[frigid crater]

yur

[wind dock]

if I use an arcane that on melee kill boosts primary dmg if I kill with my melee does wuclone get the boost?

[thorn pawn]

How can I use my archiver fragment

Archonte*

[frosty crescent]

ok yeah confront umbra is the worst

[kind hedge]

I've tried, isn't instant enough for the content where you would actually need it.

[frosty crescent]

i do not understand what is even happening

I'm jsut randomly dying

why does the screen randomly fade to black and stun me

this gameplay is not tremendous without a decent amp lol

[devout burrow]

its instant

[worldly dome]

because you're in operator form, aka very weak

[frosty crescent]

i suppose if you were playing this in the time you might have actually had some chance to gear up operator a bit

instead of just jumping right into the quest

[worldly dome]

111 amp is more than enough upto the new war and then you get given an amp as a reward which is a huge upgrade

it's adequate enough for pretty much the entire game, even steel path

[frosty crescent]

what is a 111 amp

[scenic sierra]

Is there any place that I can see what abilities can be used during Razorwing?

[frosty crescent]

i just have the one that the quills give you for free

[worldly dome]

Amps are crafted from 3 parts, of which there's 7 different variants, unlocked at increasingly higher ranks of Quill Onkko and Little Duck
111 means each piece is no. 1 aka the first one you unlock

so amps range from 111 to 777

[frosty crescent]

o

[frosty crescent]

i see

[worldly dome]

So a 111 Amp is Raplak-Pencha-Clapkra

[frosty crescent]

i suppose i need to figure out how to get standing with those then lol

[worldly dome]

For Quill Onkko, your easiest starter standing will come from handing in Sentient Cores

You can get them from the Vomvalysts that roam Cetus at night

[orchid oak]

Is there any way to completge a junk run?

Or is it just

Impossible until its patched

[kind hedge]

Not instant, just tested in simulacrum, tested 3 times, died every time after the first shield break.

[worldly dome]

what is a junk run?

[orchid oak]

One of the ||break Narmer/Kahl missions||

[devout burrow]

do you know how the interaction works?

[worldly dome]

It's not bugged?

I did it this week

[kind hedge]

Yes, full battery plus shield recharge delay mods right?

[orchid oak]

Pretty sure it is, heard some people having issues with the third rampart not firing

And that happened with me, none of the ramparts would fire for the third invul

[devout burrow]

you also need arcane aegis to proc at least once before the effect takes place

[cedar mantle]

Plus one arcane aegis proc at some point in the mission

[wheat mirage]

If my math is correct, I should be hitting 30 by Wednesday. The wait is agonizing

[worldly dome]

You can command mode your brothers to jump on the turrets
That will generate an ammo for it, or you can keep them on the turrets and they will fire at the Thumper (albeit inaccurately)

[kind hedge]

then thats not gauss, thats arcane aegis

[cedar mantle]

I mean only gauss can stack enough shield regen for it to work iirc, plus it’s one proc, doesn’t have to keep proccing

[worldly dome]

I'm 29.5 rn, what you waiting on?

[devout burrow]

its a special interaction with gauss cause the aegis proc removes the minimum shield recharge delay cap of 0.3 seconds
it doesnt work on any other frames

[kind hedge]

Oh?

[devout burrow]

basically arcane aegis stays active for the entire run even if it isnt procced

[wheat mirage]

Gauss P., Atlas P., Nidus P., Khora P., Sevagoth P., and Nautilus P.

Nautilus is gonna finish later today

[kind hedge]

I sold my r5 aegis yesterday

[wheat mirage]

Please tell me you got good plat off of it

[devout burrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/150313159343865856/1321587681699958825/i-text.gif

[kind hedge]

i think 400

[scenic sierra]

Trying to see on the wiki but cant find anything.. maybe im looking in the wrong place

[worldly dome]

.....?

[kind hedge]

that was all my aegis

[devout burrow]

yes

[devout burrow]

r0 isnt that expensive tho no?

[kind hedge]

ig yeah

time for loid gambling

[worldly dome]

Nice, this is my foundry rn

I've just this minute finished up MRing my last Zaw, so that's Zaws and Kitguns done

[wheat mirage]

Citrine’s farm is too annoying for me to consider doing it, so props to you for doing it

[worldly dome]

I really found Citrine's to be one of the least boring in the game

Steel Path Tyana Pass gives you so many crystal fragments alongside the chance of the pieces dropping. I was done in like 2 days.

Gyre was PAINFUL.

[fathom grove]

I dread the amount of farming I would have to do for just one item 💀

[worldly dome]

Zariman bounties are so low drop rate, it turned into an Endo & Lens farm

[devout burrow]

saying painful to the best farming place in the game is wild

[worldly dome]

Brother it took me 4 days for just her systems

I made like 100k endo from the T3 Zariman bounties alone

[devout burrow]

even tho low level bounties arent that exciting I gotta agree on that

[worldly dome]

I've gotta go back one day for the Aeolak and Hespar components

but not touching it for a while

[devout burrow]

hespar is gonna be fun

we love void armageddon C rotation

[worldly dome]

i dont

[frank eagle]

Ahh my beloved hespar. It's as beautiful as it is mid 😭

[fervent moth]

The fact they gave a Lunar New Year skin for it is wild

[weak iron]

I got that : D

Was so upset that the bundle came with it instead of Boltor

[peak moth]

Does ability sttength affect dez pixia?

[peak moth]

YOU HAVE TO MR EVERY ZAW??

[median topaz]

You don't have to, but there's like 9 of them so that's a pretty good chunk of MR

[fair flame]

Every zaw blade, every kirtgun chamber, and every k drive board. For MR points

[peak moth]

Damn

[thin socket]

do i gain more xp if usin 1 weapons instead of 3 on my waframe?

[median topaz]

No

Affinity from the kills your allies make get funneled to that one weapon so it can be more efficient in a dedicated grind session, but you get less overall

[misty summit]

wassup guys

[worldly dome]

Well, for max MR you have to MR everything.... obviously

[frosty crescent]

what is a zaw

[worldly dome]

Modular melee weapon

[slender sparrow]

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Zaw

[frosty crescent]

ah

man theres an obscene amount of crap in this game ive never heard of

they've added a lot since 2017

[strong field]

Why Balla is so good as Zaw

I have Sefaph and it feels like fast nikana

🤔

[quick stone]

I think the Sepfahn has the potential to be the quickest nikana in the game?

If you stick 2 Jay on it and use a peye hilt.

[worldly dome]

Rabvee my beloved

[quick stone]

Hammer time

[peak moth]

Can you reroll archon mods or something to get different t elements on them?

[boreal pier]

no

[neat pelican]

I don't think so

[worldly dome]

No the only mods in the game that aren't static rolls are Rivens

[peak moth]

Dang

Does ability strength affect dex pixia?

[quick stone]

Yes. It alters the base damage of the dex pixia (this applies to all exalted weapons)

[peak moth]

Ooh yay

[timid flare]

Is primed pressure point a good use of legendary core?

[quick stone]

Incidentally, while you can't put arcanes on exalted weapons, some arcane effects carry over to exalted weapons if they share a slot type (I.E. Dex Pixia and a secondary arcane)

[worldly dome]

If you'll actually use a mod, then it's a good use

If you're just looking to spend the core for the sake of it, upgrade something you use

[timid flare]

Thank you!

[peak moth]

Am I mean for cat fishing a dude from recruit chat?

[worldly dome]

........... what does that mean

[peak moth]

Some dude in recruit chat was asking for a girlfriend

[worldly dome]

😐

[peak moth]

Idk it's kinda funny

[frosty crescent]

ehh

[rocky turret]

guys have a problem here when i run ascension i have frequently micro freeze, someone have the same issue?

[lavish grove]

LF gf radshare

[peak moth]

Ong

Ayo share

[lavish grove]

I am almost done with zaw grind. I hate it here

Somehow the kitgun grind was less annoying

[red vale]

Which is better the hate or despair incarnon ?

[strong field]

Hate

[red vale]

Alr

[untold topaz]

Does the armor points from Vauban's bastille count for Arcane Battery?

[supple thicket]

Yes

[daring parrot]

"give me 500 plat and i'll be your girlfriend ^-^ hehe"

[peak moth]

Lmao was thinking bout it

[pure gulch]

warframe’s equivalent of ”buying gf”

[fair flame]

@pearl parcel you alive for that primed mod yet

[strong field]

How to make gas strong

[sinful comet]

Hello

[weak iron]

Wat

[strong field]

?

[neat haven]

Eat lots of spicy food 👍

[strong field]

😭

[leaden obsidian]

Ping him more

[fair flame]

Eat LoL players there so toxic they will give gas

[pearl parcel]

i am alive, i am not ready for the trade yet

ive been busy doing stuff like work and learning lua, apologies

[fair flame]

could all so do that

[warped token]

.

[left vigil]

.

[leaden obsidian]

@clear reef plays LoL, just [I’ve been advised to not finish the joke]

[hybrid herald]

are hate and dread good incarion options to choose this week

[sage anvil]

What do I specifically need to get steel path with the 1999 update?

[quick stone]

You have to do every node, including hollvanias

[thorn pawn]

Could someone pls give me shade prime shell

[leaden obsidian]

Yes

[daring parrot]

also includes jade shadows, there's a node locked behind that

[red vale]

Oh my god my eyes are betraying me ?

I dealt 66 million damage with xaku

[strong field]

Prob not betraying you

Xaku is just built different

[supple thicket]

Built incorrectly

[strong field]

Still different

[red vale]

They are built different

[weak iron]

What does a Xoris kaboom build look like?

[strong field]

Elec mod
Volatile quick return
Dual sac mods
Melee elementalist
Amalgam organ
Galv reflex
Last slot is for Killing blow/power throw/faction damage
Melee influence

[weak iron]

Ty

Uhhhhh, sac mods vs CO and galv steel if priming?

[strong field]

I don't think you need priming if you're gonna spam heavy but anyway CO does not affect glaives explosions.

[weak iron]

Ah okay ty!

WAIIIIT

No galv reflex? Doesn't it let us spam more?

[strong field]

Oh wait your right

I almost forgot about that mod.

Then the last two slots is galv reflex and faction/killing/power throw

I prefer faction cuz it triple dips on melee influence

[weak iron]

I'm too lazy xX

Ty!

[red vale]

#builds-discussion

[weak iron]

You're late but okay

[maiden granite]

Haha you mean me

I am?

[leaden obsidian]

Were

[heady socket]

what happens if i join a clan to join another

do i like lose anything

[maiden granite]

You need her augment

[pearl parcel]

yes, that is several days old at this point luna

[maiden granite]

Eh im still responding

[peak moth]

What is it

[maiden granite]

Got home from vacation and got sick

[neat pelican]

A clan key has to be refabricated i think. The old clan has to have some1 in it to invite you if you wish to return

[leaden obsidian]

Oof

[heady socket]

oh ok thx

[maiden granite]

Razorwing blitz. It helps with speed and fire rate. It sounds like you also need more efficiency (i know that was your original question)

What is your efficiency percentage?

[leaden obsidian]

[peak moth]

Lemme load up

[maiden granite]

Ok

[peak moth]

100%

[maiden granite]

Ok yeah so you can do one of two things, use arcane energize so that you get your energy refilled constantly by picking up energy orbs, OR you can reduce your strength slightly and increase your efficiency mods

[peak moth]

I have 155% with my mod at max (strength)

[maiden granite]

I think the other arcane is steadfast

[peak moth]

145%**

[maiden granite]

Ok that’s not bad. Slap arcane energize or steadfast on there and you shouldnt have as much of an energy problem. Dont forget to mod your dex pixia as well

[peak moth]

Yup, rhanks

[maiden granite]

They upped the eximus count so you shouldnt have a problem picking up energy orbs

[quick stone]

(They fixed the increased Eximus spawn rate)

[peak moth]

I mainly need another build for staying in pixie form so I can run capture without killing anything

[maiden granite]

Did they??? Noooo it was so nice with more eximus!! I havent been on in like two weeks so

[quick stone]

I think they still spawn in bigger numbers in Hollvania?

[strong field]

L update

[maiden granite]

sigh they should have left it alone

The increased difficulty was nice

[strong field]

Increased difficulty rewards increased gameplay and survivability and rewards

Well shoulda left it alone on sp at least

[maiden granite]

Just use a straight efficiency build. No strength

That makes me sad

[peak moth]

And then a build dexia build should be good enough?

[maiden granite]

If you’re not needing to kill anything you dont even have to worry about your dex pixia

[peak moth]

I have to kill the capture target with always seems to be a eximus

[maiden granite]

Oh then yeah. Mod your dex pixia well and you should be good

[leaden obsidian]

I should go forma my dex pixia

[peak moth]

Okey thanks

I'm gonna main the shi out of titania

[maiden granite]

Titania is rad

I have to finish her

[maiden granite]

How long do i have to get her again?

[peak moth]

Ong need to get gauss to put sunder on her

[leaden obsidian]

Idk, few weeks maybe

[strong field]

I did evil things to titania

[peak moth]

17 days give or take

[leaden obsidian]

[maiden granite]

Subsuming over her 4 you goober

[strong field]

Stripped her off her identity (subbed over 4) and then fed her to henry when I got bored

[peak moth]

I farmed her so fast

[leaden obsidian]

Ah

[maiden granite]

I gotta see what pieces i have

[peak moth]

I have a couple Neuroptics

[leaden obsidian]

I had a majority of her pieces

[peak moth]

Wanted like 4 of her but ran out of left over relics

[maiden granite]

I need her systems and chassis

I have an extra bp and neuroptics

[peak moth]

Ooh gold and bronze

[round otter]

I don't think you can run netracells in SP, can you? Unless they're sp by default

[maiden granite]

They are pretty much sp by default

[leaden obsidian]

Luna, did you see my titania fashion?

[maiden granite]

no i didnt!

[peak moth]

Show me

[maiden granite]

@fathom cipher How’s the anime convention?

[leaden obsidian]

I’ll have to get an updated picture cause I changed the ephemera

[maiden granite]

I wanna copy the fashion i saved from a wf livestream from someone named unicorn

[peak moth]

I just wa t the set that's in the market rn it looks so good

[round otter]

As long as they have sp's thing of max enemy density even in solo, as if you had a full squad, then I'm happy

[peak moth]

Ooh

That's the skin I want and Ephemera I want

[leaden obsidian]

I do wanna get the skin eventually but I don’t have the plat yet

[maiden granite]

I believe so

I saved my plat for lunar new year and star days

[leaden obsidian]

Loading the game up to get a screenshot

[maiden granite]

(Plus im slightly spoiled by my man and if i cant sell something for the plat he buys it for me…yes i am bragging on him.)

[maiden granite]

Yay

[leaden obsidian]

Game being dumb

[strong field]

You saved your platypus for lunar new year???? Are you gonna sauté it?

[maiden granite]

Nooo platypus are so cute!!!

[fathom cipher]

it was super tiny but i ended up buying a few shirts and jackets

[maiden granite]

Oooooo

[strong field]

No figurines? :(

Wish I can have sum to goon over

[maiden granite]

Stop being dumb game

[daring parrot]

I LOVE PLATYPI

[maiden granite]

Those pop dolls are cute

[leaden obsidian]

Login keeps failing

[daring parrot]

in 4th grade i did a whole presentation of them

[fathom cipher]

real asl

[daring parrot]

baby ones are adorable

[leaden obsidian]

You’re gonna sauté perry the platypus!?

[strong field]

Can they make figurines for game characters

[maiden granite]

I wish they didnt have the poison spurs

[fathom cipher]

im makin one for ceramics rn lol

[daring parrot]

show meeee

[daring parrot]

fr 😭

[fathom cipher]

its uh. not done

[daring parrot]

show me the WIP

[leaden obsidian]

Aye the game worked

[daring parrot]

i want to see lumpy platypus clay creature

[leaden obsidian]

I can share the first fashion with the same colors

This was first fashion

[maiden granite]

Cutie

That ephemera works

[leaden obsidian]

And second fashion

[maiden granite]

Do you have ember’s signa?

[leaden obsidian]

I do

[maiden granite]

I would swap for that one

I think it suits her angles better

[leaden obsidian]

Hmm alr

[maiden granite]

Especially with the protovyre ephemera

[maiden granite]

YES

[leaden obsidian]

[maiden granite]

That’s better

[leaden obsidian]

Aye

[maiden granite]

Plus she’s a queen and that one is more queen like

[leaden obsidian]

True

[maiden granite]

I think if i were a wf i would be her or or valkyr

[strong field]

My titania cosplay didn't look too good

Man what a shame

[fathom cipher]

makes sense

what would kath be then

[maiden granite]

Khora

[fathom cipher]

true

[maiden granite]

1000% khora

[leaden obsidian]

Titania or mag for me

[fathom cipher]

idk what id be ngl

[strong field]

I think I'd just be pink rhino

Staying true to my colors

[fathom cipher]

obv

[strong field]

Girly pop rhino ts

[maiden granite]

Dope. Your pink rhino is dope

[fathom cipher]

imma pink rhino as well

formaing him is so hard tho ngl

[maiden granite]

Rhino is a BEAST

[fathom cipher]

it feels horrible to get kills with him

[spare summit]

which demolyst do i wanna scan to test

[maiden granite]

Carried my behind to SP then through SP til i got wisp prime

[strong field]

I just use melee influence and naramon school, go ham on survival sp solo

[maiden granite]

His 4 used to room clear bro

[strong field]

Shouldn't take 10 mins

[fathom cipher]

smart

[strong field]

I should play wisp p more

I missed being a turret

[maiden granite]

Wisp prime would be my third option. She’s a bit tall though

Phenmore and wisp p

Burrrrrrrr

[leaden obsidian]

Acuity epitaph is oddly cool

[peak moth]

How do I beat the thumper as khul? I can't get to the last rampart

[maiden granite]

You got your jet pack?

[peak moth]

No

[maiden granite]

Ok there should have been a jet pack to pick up along the way

[peak moth]

No

I never saw one

[strong field]

Actually very good

I've been meaning to try it

[peak moth]

I'm not doing new war I'm doing khal missions

[strong field]

Its got multiplicative acuity and multiplicative CO

And the prime variant has the highest CC of all secondaries not counting incarnons

[leaden obsidian]

I tried it just now, actually kinda cool

I don’t have its slot formad so I can’t fit scorch but it works regardless still

I can share you my build

[strong field]

Sure

Share it here and ping me

[daring parrot]

yeah there's a jet pack near the start

[leaden obsidian]

Alr

[daring parrot]

there should just be stairs that you can take anyways

[peak moth]

Idk I just found another rampart that I missed ig

[leaden obsidian]

I’m gonna have some leveling to do tomorrow, got mirage done tomorrow

@strong field

Last spot is scorch

[red vale]

11 minions with wisp

Anyone know when the night wave will end ? I need to get some good things from it

[tired nova]

is there any way to gurantee a way to get a bulky kubrow without having to spend hours trying to find people who have one? maybe i use the species of one and the body of another and hope it works?

[tired nova]

na it'll be a while probably

[red vale]

Thank god

[tired nova]

oh god that reminds me i need that shoulder piece for my caliban

[peak moth]

Is there any reason why I keep getting kicked out of razorwing?

[tired nova]

out of energy?

or does this happen in corpus missons?

[peak moth]

No full

In a grinder rn

[tired nova]

?

[peak moth]

Gineer

[tired nova]

ah

[peak moth]

Grineer

[tired nova]

uh...dunno

[peak moth]

Autocorrect lol

[tired nova]

i dont play titania

[peak moth]

Not veryhelpful

Why would it matter if it's corpus?

[next bramble]

can you put Eclipse on Rhino/Roar on Mirage?

[peak moth]

It's subsume I don't see why not. Or are you asking if they stack?

[solemn spoke]

You can't have the two at the same time

[tired nova]

nullifier

that's all i know

far as i'm aware no grineer has nullifeir, on the zarimen they can force you into op mode but that's different

[leaden obsidian]

Nullifiers

[peak moth]

What nullifier?

[leaden obsidian]

I was meaning for corpus

[peak moth]

I was fighting grineer

[red vale]

Nulifier

[leaden obsidian]

Hmm, are you accidentally casting the ability a second time?

[peak moth]

Don't think so

[leaden obsidian]

Only thongs I know of is you’re casting the ability a second time or energy

[peak moth]

Idk

Is sedna disruption really the only way to get gauss?

[indigo bramble]

Grineer have the stupid trokor enemies that kick you out of your frame, or you could be running out of energy from those eximus units

[peak moth]

I wasn't kicked out of my frame just kicked out of razorwing

[neat pelican]

Yes 🫣

[peak moth]

😭😭

[neat pelican]

Good news, disruption I think after the first or second round is always C if you dont lose any nodes.

[peak moth]

On round 4 with all saved and no part so far

[solemn spoke]

Gauss prime may just be easier to farm ngl lol

[peak moth]

Need subsume

[supple thicket]

Relic farming ftw

[signal garnet]

hi

[peak moth]

I need subsume thoo

[supple thicket]

You're farming relics 😉

[peak moth]

I am getting good relics

[supple thicket]

don't focus on what you want

[peak moth]

Rng hates me

Are gauss parts tradable?

[leaden obsidian]

Not base gauss

[peak moth]

😭

[mild plume]

Where do I ask for riven guides

[strong field]

Like anywhere between this, general, player help, builds channels

[strong field]

Ive seen the build btw

Trying it out now

[leaden obsidian]

Alr

[pure gulch]

also base acceltra and akarius if you care for those are sedna disruption drops but from demolishers

[bronze thistle]

Hey so does anyone know when warframe for Android comes out I thaught some saying Jan 20th 2025?

[cunning swift]

Revenant prime finally done cooking up, do I just build around his reave?

[leaden obsidian]

idk if he’s awake but we have a person to ask about rev builds

[median topaz]

No date yet

Like, this is the kind of thing you should look up yourself

If there's nothing on google none of us will have info either

[leaden obsidian]

The date is no confirmed date

[obsidian egret]

I have a smeet thats almost pure silver, is that rare or something?

[median topaz]

It's not exactly hard to recolor them

[next kiln]

u will get a date soon captain i believe in u

[peak moth]

Why do I need suck high rank on cetus just for gauss😭

[median topaz]

It's a way of forcing people to actually engage with content instead of skipping it outright

[peak moth]

But to force getting rank 4 is crazy

I have to either grind bounties for a super long time, fish, or mine

[median topaz]

None of the above

[peak moth]

Huh?

[median topaz]

Get a tranq gun and hunt animals

[leaden obsidian]

Shoot animals

[peak moth]

Why

[median topaz]

By far the fastest standing grind

[peak moth]

You get like 300 standing tho?

[leaden obsidian]

Sell their remains to some weirdo in cetus for profit

[median topaz]

not the higher ranked animals

[peak moth]

Higher ranked

So should I bait or just fly around?

[median topaz]

I don't remember the Cetus animals, but Kubrodon incarnines give 8k at once in Fortuna

During the day use the lure, at night look for vampire cats

[leaden obsidian]

If it moves, tranq it

[peak moth]

Vampire cat

I just keep getting crappy kavats

[hexed grail]

since I have all of these besides despair do I get any of them again or just stop at tier 5

[median topaz]

Uhhhh none of them have other alternates

Get a riv or Kuva, stop at 5

[hexed grail]

now they trying hard to keep me locked in they offering 2 legendary arcanes and a mod booster

[median topaz]

Not the worst deal, yeah

[peak moth]

What should I lure?

[median topaz]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/kni9c2/by_far_the_easiest_cetus_farming_method/

[uneven smelt]

How much do the physical statuses matter on primaries and secondaries cause I rolled this Knell Riven and not sure if the benefits outweigh the curse?

[median topaz]

Half of Knell's damage is from puncture

[peak moth]

Sell to who? You can't sell tags for anything decent as far as I see

[uneven smelt]

Yea I thought so. I was thinking status could make up for it but idk

[leaden obsidian]

Trade tags

[peak moth]

You can only trade for crappy mods and plushies it looks like

[leaden obsidian]

Oh I didn’t see the “sell to who”

[peak moth]

Master teasonai kinda sucks to sell to

[median topaz]

uhhhh just fyi the Bond mods are stupid broken

Like "genuinely warps the meta if you use them right"

[leaden obsidian]

The claw mods aren’t actually bad, the bond mods are really good

[peak moth]

Ik but you don't get those from tags, you get then from stansing

[median topaz]

Oh wait wrong set, doesn't he have the pet claw mods?

[leaden obsidian]

Yes

[median topaz]

Cuz those and the posture mods are new and useful

[peak moth]

Oh didn't know they were claw

Aren't there only so many claw mods the begin with?

[median topaz]

Originally there weren't claw mods at all, just 60/60 mods you equipped to the pet itself

[leaden obsidian]

There’s not a ton, but a good chunk that are actually really nice to have on your companions

[peak moth]

So I should get these claw ones if I can?

[median topaz]

Posture mods first

[peak moth]

But other than that there's not much to do with cetus tags it looks like

[median topaz]

At least the assassinate posture

[peak moth]

That's not an option

Balanced or elusive

[median topaz]

Balanced is fine

[peak moth]

I'm talking only cetus rn

[median topaz]

Elusive makes them not attack at all iirc

Which is usable on Sahasa Kubrow

[peak moth]

How?

[median topaz]

Sahasas will dig up pickups, ammo and small amounts of resources when they're not attacking

[peak moth]

Ahh

Do kavat and kubrow mods work on panzers?

[median topaz]

Kavats yes kubrows no

Foxes count as cats for modding

Mastiffs count as dogs

[pearl parcel]

hey captain, you ever get so aggravated at a plane you build a gatling laser to carve its wings off

[median topaz]

Can't say I have, no

[opaque hinge]

can anyone tell me what does the Lunar animal do in the UI ?

[restive warren]

We missing horse and I forgot what else

[restive warren]

Logging screen, nothing else

[pearl parcel]

there was a bombing plane that kept screwing with a fort of mine, so i built a big feckin laser to just cleave it

worked like a charm frankly, alarmingly well in fact

[opaque hinge]

it still tiger for me

[hexed grail]

are syndicate deathsquads guaranteed to drop that syndicates specter blueprint?

[median topaz]

No but the odds are good

[hexed grail]

one of the reasons I dont want to swap from my new loka perrin veil, meridian setup is because loka sells ancient disruptor bps

[restive warren]

have you saved changes?

[opaque hinge]

yes

[hexed grail]

which are free 90% dr

[opaque hinge]

I mean they can drop it when they atk you

[restive warren]

I'm eating popcorns i dont have enogh hands to loggin and see how to fix your problem atm

[opaque hinge]

I got 30 just from Loka atk me randomly

[restive warren]

If you haven't figured it out in around ~40min, i'll see what I can figure out

[fallen robin]

holy. crap.

ive done it, ive completed the ENTIRE MADURAI TREE

[opaque hinge]

nice

now do the rest

[fallen robin]

[fiery peak]

can anyone help me with my sister liche

[hexed grail]

I just completed the entire SP star chart

[hexed grail]

im waiting for the exstatic bliss ima get when I max out naramon which is my only focus school I never focused on

[median topaz]

I need to finish Sedna, arena just isn't fun for me :X

[solemn hare]

Damage number enthusiasts be like:

[hexed grail]

how might I get to this random thingy

i see absolutely no entrances

[harsh charm]

can someone explain to me like I'm a new player how to Equinox good

[solemn hare]

If there's no hole on the ground, or to the side of a drop-off, look for a vent high up anywhere in that room

[median topaz]

Equinox is two Warframes with three playstyles. It's kinda irritating actually

[harsh charm]

yeah, it's a lot to remember for one frame

[hexed grail]

I still cant find it damnit

[vague egret]

is it possible to trade for incarnon weapons

[restive warren]

No.

[median topaz]

As Night form you spam Rest to put groups of enemies to sleep before killing them and use Pacify to reduce damage
As Day form you press 4, get a bunch of kills, and press 4 again to clear a room, or alternatively press use Rage to make enemies weaker and Provoke to make allies stronger

[vague egret]

dang i want the magistar incarnon but its super farm out of rotation

[solemn hare]

Toggle the on screen full view for the map and see if the entrance happens to be in a whole different room entirely

[clear reef]

Honestly I nearly never see ppl being toxic

Tho there are many afk

[pearl parcel]

hey pix you wanna see a big laser?

[restive warren]

No I've been eating too many of that in the game I've been playing. (Joking aside, yeah)

[pearl parcel]

behold, the gatling laser

perfect for swatting that aggravating flying unit thats been bothering you

[restive warren]

[hexed grail]

that didnt help but I did find out this plate can be damage by void damage and void damage only

[pearl parcel]

its also good for shooting down satellites, yknow incase theres a xenos or a communist

[restive warren]

That's awfully specific

[pearl parcel]

well there are communist fish cretins, and they have satellites, cant have them spying on your forts or mining operations, or the large box over there that definitely isnt a new titan manufactory

[orchid oak]

When you remove ||an archon shard from a warframe using the helminth||, do you get the shard back? Or is it just consumed

[median topaz]

Yes it goes back to your stock

[restive warren]

You keep. It goes back to inventory.

[median topaz]

It's not like forma or Orokin catalysts

Or arcanes

[restive warren]

But if you delete a warframe with Archon shars on, it'll just poof out of existence. (So please remove your shards before pressing sell or feed it to the wallmouth)

[orchid oak]

Okay tysm for telling me this

[median topaz]

Which is odd come to think of it, arcanes and arcane adapters are all little pieces of Sentients, like archon shards

[solemn hare]

No he eats it like a jolly rancher

[median topaz]

I really want to see what the archons actually looked like now

[orchid oak]

Also

On the topic of the shards, I can't slot an emerald one I got from the 1999 calendar rewards

Even though I have it and the segment to slot other ones (my gauss is running two blue and one yellow as we speak)

[median topaz]

I believe you need to build the second archon shard segment

[orchid oak]

The what now? ;-;

[median topaz]

You get the archon shard segment from New War, and the archon shard modification segment from Bird 3

Can't mess with the fused shards until you have the modification segment

[orchid oak]

Great, cavia

My FAVORITE faction ;-;

[median topaz]

It's basically a second Zariman, ranking up is fast and the new resources are common

[fallen robin]

after 6 FORMA my dual ichor build is ready

[pure gulch]

you technically can get fused shards before getting the segment but its few and rare you do

[harsh geyser]

question

as a nidus how much stack generation is to much?

[fallen robin]

did you stack over 50 again

[harsh geyser]

no i did something worse

[fallen robin]

200?

[harsh geyser]

1500% stack generation

[fallen robin]

https://tenor.com/view/baffled-disgusted-lee-jung-jae-squid-game-pornacore-gif-3671488771266899279

[harsh geyser]

i dont flip death off. im activly banging his wife

[pure gulch]

you have melee influence arcane?

[fallen robin]

nop

oh

nvm i do

rank 0 tho so nothing special

[languid vault]

hi chat, tell me, which is better? I'm rolling rn and I need to choose

[pure gulch]

if you want a ridiculously strong ichor try getting that R5

especially seeing as you have electricity modded anyways

[fallen robin]

i got the build from overframe

by ninjase

[pure gulch]

yeah thats what I use as well but that has influence too

[pearl parcel]

night pix, im heading to bed

[fallen robin]

i genuinely didnt realize i had gotten influence till just now 😭

[strong field]

@leaden obsidian your epi build was a great inspiration

[pearl parcel]

hey chirp you wanna see a big laser

[hexed grail]

are both of these of about the same efficiency if my rabvee zaw is modded for mainly toxin and electic

[pure gulch]

basically only difference for me is that I have riven instead of bane mod, also riven has electricity so I didn’t need to put shocking touch

[tropic anvil]

can some one help me on a assination mission on deamos ?

[mild cypress]

If there is a full squad for sister confrontation, would I get 4 hound components or just from the one I vanquished?

[fallen robin]

if i remember correctly, just one

[pure gulch]

i think just your own

[strong field]

Sure

[pearl parcel]

the antimaterial emplacement, perfect for removing material from planes

and from helicoptors

and from satellites

[hexed grail]

is crit damage worth it over pure melee damage (this is for a zaw level cap im trying to make)

[pearl parcel]

not unless you can guarantee crits

[hexed grail]

yeah it guarantees crits it has 102%

[pearl parcel]

then crit damage is better imo

[hexed grail]

yeah basically the people in cascade chat are telling me to roll for CD MD AS

[mild cypress]

That kinda make sense.... although this is what wikicomment on wiki says:
If you are looking for specific hound parts, then I would recommend defeating the sister in a squad. Each sister (as far as I know) drop one hound part, so with a 4-man squad you can get 4 parts each run. This will save you a lot of time compared to doing it solo (like I did). Cheers!

[mild cypress]

Hmmmmmm, I checked and I got two components actually since I hunt with a clanmate.

[strong field]

@fathom cipher I did smth better than the DoT cap yesterday

[fathom cipher]

cyte 09 ok buddy

[pure gulch]

then I was wrong, better so

[strong field]

I mean without cyte youd still deal around 1B

[restive warren]

Chirpyy woke up and craved violence with the help of Cyte

[strong field]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/506050959185805351/1225630432402473013/jiggywit.gif

Its official now. I broke the game. Time to stop playing for 5 years

[lyric lotus]

[opaque hinge]

Why EDA always so laggy

[magic kayak]

left is better but still kinda mid

[timid berry]

@strong field

[strong field]

🫂

[dull cape]

so the romance confuses me a little bit. i've reset once. but how does the option to date actually pop up

like i'm trusted on all of them but for some reason only have the prompt for Aoi

[pure gulch]

pretty sure you need liked or whatever the 4th chem rank was with aoi/amir/quincy and best friends or 5th with arthur/eleanor/lettie

[dull cape]

ahhh so they're separate that makes more sense

ill have to test that

[pure gulch]

I don’t remember if you had to have some flirty dialogue options chosen prior as well or not but I could be wrong

[dull cape]

i'm flirted with all of them like the hoe i am lmao

according to the wiki looks like it's rank and amount of convos which helps alot

[wet yew]

thats diabolical

I could already one tap archons

[opaque hinge]

jesus

[wet yew]

ok randos cant play spy

time to solo

[pseudo forge]

randos can never play spy
always solo a sortie/archon spy

[mellow turret]

i like to play on public because i think its funny when people fail vaults and it adds a little amusement to my day

[dull cape]

not everyone is good at it. it happens

[mellow turret]

im never mean to them and ill intercede if someone is i just think theres inherent humor in it

like when youre running a lich defense and a rad lich spawns in and rad procs people and the defense target gets oneshot

its so dumb. it makes me smile

[dull cape]

yeye i know just alot of people tend to forget we all sucked at it once too

[pseudo forge]

oh absolutely
but if you mess up while solo, you know what happened. instead of an unknown 300-500 meters away that you can't do anything about

[mellow turret]

facts, i never forget this

[pure gulch]

been there done that

[mellow turret]

its so humiliating as a gara main. like my job is to protect the defense target but then suddenly me having 2M splinter storm is no longer a good thing

[pure gulch]

my lich with nukor, spawns, rad procs me as octavia, mallet obliterates defense target

[dull cape]

gara was a make a forget frame for me. really should revisit her

and*

[pure gulch]

it was confusing at first but then I looked at a clip of it and realised

[mellow turret]

i dont think garas gameplay loop is for everyone but i just love her so much. her fashion, her ability sounds, the feeling of casting mass vitrify

[pure gulch]

gara was cool but I threw her in helminth ages ago and haven’t gotten prime yet

[dull cape]

i'm smooth brain. i've been a excalibur enjoyer ever since i started back on ps4 in highschool haha

[pure gulch]

i am emberpilled rn she is my main now lol

[mellow turret]

yeah i started out with mag and lately ive been returning to mag a lot

she just feels good to play

[dull cape]

dear lord 12 years now man time flies. this game has grown so much. always fun to look back on

[mellow turret]

i hit 1k logins today

[dull cape]

o7

[mellow turret]

i really like the chest piece

i didnt expect the center to rotate

[pure gulch]

its sad that I could be at like 1k days too but aren’t just because I didn’t play for like 3 years

[mellow turret]

i also didnt play for like 3 years im just old

[pure gulch]

I didn’t even have a pc before 2020 but I started in 2020, didn’t play much, came back in like feb-mar 2024

[dull cape]

i use the shoulders the most from login set.

[mellow turret]

i like the shoulders too

[dull cape]

back when i started warframe was around when ps4 first launched so there wasn't alot of games to play back then

[mellow turret]

friend gifted me avia armor today for helping them with fashion so now i have base avia, prisma avia, and solstice avia... exciting

thats not sarcasm i like them all in diff ways

[pure gulch]

came back to an MR12 acc and now in a bit under a year got about 15 levels more to that

[mellow turret]

nice!!

[pure gulch]

slowly chipping away at the MR

trying to get MR30 after that I get LRs when I get them

[mellow turret]

i said this too and then went to LR4 anyway

[pure gulch]

I do want to get to LR4 eventually

[mellow turret]

by the time "eventually" rolls around, you'll need to shoot for LR5 :)

[pure gulch]

but its also that I have to basically self fund stuff in my clan and its not cheap so research slows it down a ton

[mellow turret]

what are you missing?

oh yes i get this, i only started a solo clan after i hit lr4

it's slow going

[pure gulch]

have most of them done anyways but still stuff like glaxion and okina almost 10k cryotic, knux 60k cryotic, not fun solo lol

[dull cape]

i got lucky and got my old clan back from ps4 all the research was fairly intact

[mellow turret]

my issue is plastids

i have like 110k cryotic

i just need plastids so bad

[pure gulch]

I haven’t farmed cryotic much

[mellow turret]

back in my day excavation was the way to speedrun relic cracking 👴

[pure gulch]

I could just go hit up excas for like 30min get like 5k a run but it just gets boring lol

relic excas are cool as long as you don’t have goobers powering them too fast

I do have a whole sheet of literally everything I could find to squeeze MR from and how to get them been slowly filling that out since last october

[placid turtle]

Anyone know if there's a Captura scene for Stofler, Lua (Defense)?

[opaque hinge]

there is no such thing

only these are available

[safe trench]

is there any helminth ability that break objects? or is there any ability thats like mesmer skin?

[lucid owl]

Koumei's subsume is sorta kinda like Mesmer skin

[green kiln]

anyone wanna squad up?

[pliant trench]

#squad-recruitment

[safe trench]

oh right, ty

[green kiln]

i mean like team up for missions

or is that same thing?

[opal knot]

So I wanted to classify Warframes accordingly certain categories based on their skills.

For example, Ember, Volt and Frost are the Elementals

Excalibur, Mesa, Cyte-09 are the Weapon Masters, cause their kits heavily revolved around their Exalted weapons or focused on the use on a type of weapon

But I'm not sure what to call the category for the likes of Nekros, Trinity, Revenant

Any suggestions??

[pliant trench]

we have term of utility frame and healer and loot frame

[opal knot]

Utility Frame?

[pliant trench]

nova - vauban - protea etc

for me it their kit debuff/buffing

[opal knot]

✍️

Hmm that's a good point

Wait, I barely touched my Nova. What does she do aside from making portals?

[pliant trench]

nekros - khora - hydroid - ivara what i call looting frame either their kit or augment

[pliant trench]

her 4th skill tap make enemies slow
n hold make enemies go brrr speed

her 1st skill for tanky and counter dmg (recast)
2nd skill - shoot it more to get more output dmg
3rd is portal

[opal knot]

She makes them.fast?

[pliant trench]

well she quantum/molecule theme frame

[opal knot]

Yeah Im not really a science guy....

[pliant trench]

b4 her rework she have build call speedva (negative str) or slowva (positive str build)
now u either tap to slowed or hold to speed the enemies

[opal knot]

Hmm maybe I should try using Nova sometime

[pliant trench]

she is go to frame to pair with looting warframe

[supple pier]

to maximize your farm, she is one of the best options.

[round otter]

Nova is great at getting through defense

[mellow turret]

she also has great fashion

[round otter]

Both defenses you actually need to focus on, and ones you just want to speed up

[mellow turret]

she's awesome like that

[opal knot]

Can you shoot stuff through thr portals?

[mellow turret]

no sadly

[opal knot]

Dang

[pure gulch]

one closer to the coveted 30

[elder furnace]

Hi

[strong field]

Only first proc of gas deal damage?

[restive warren]

Not that I can remember but now you asked out loud I'm not sure anymore

[strong field]

🤔

[pure gulch]

saved all the deimos guns leveling for lavos :D

2/5 boards maxed and only 100k meters driven :D

ventkids 3 days away from max rank too

[pliant trench]

just hopefully time for lavos prime incoming

[pure gulch]

lavos off to the wall either way

cyte and yareli helminth versions crafting too

progress is being made

[covert lily]

All procs deal damage and have timers individually, but it adds up to one number visually.

[soft ruin]

How often does corrupted vor spawn in a single mission?

[pliant trench]

once unless it circuit exterminate

[soft ruin]

Ah

[worldly dome]

that's the GOOD stuff

[weak iron]

Mmmmedium

[wooden gorge]

.

[leaden obsidian]

[real wing]

Anyone tell me about (Proto shield)? Can’t find any information in warframe fandom

[worldly dome]

You need to follow that link to the Damage page, it doesn't have its own page it seems

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Damage_2.0/Proto_Shield

[brittle grail]

man, why is Stalker always being late?

[worldly dome]

IT'S A MONDAY HE WOKE UP LATE

give bro a rest he's a single dad

[leaden obsidian]

Mirage is almost done cooking

[worldly dome]

Whats the easiest way to open up enemies to finishers?

riven challenge i got

[leaden obsidian]

Idk, I just use valkyr with her 3 aug

[glacial iris]

Inaros 1st ability

[neat pelican]

Impact status increases the mercy threshold.

[leaden obsidian]

Time to cook mirage fashion

[hard cliff]

hi guys, how did Brozime manage to make gloom apply slash on protea's build?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oamgL6aDPYc&t=310s

[leaden obsidian]

Proteas 1 applies slash

[hard cliff]

ohhhh

god im such a noob xd sorry

[leaden obsidian]

Ah dw about it

[brittle grail]

true

[hard cliff]

will nearly 100% slow from empowered gloom with slash from shrapnel grenades be enough for steelpath? (armor)

im trying to build a very versatile protea build, im using xoris and epitaph prime, im not decided on primary yet, ideally i would liek to use xoris all the way

viral, armor strip, and shield-bypass seems to be the foundation of every build

i think ill go viral for epitaph primer

viral heat

[leaden obsidian]

Tbh protea is pretty versatile already, mostly built for defense yes but can move with one of her augments

[weak iron]

Shield by-pass? I think you rather want a way to break shields.

[hard cliff]

you're right actually

[weak iron]

Just put magnetic mod on it too

[hard cliff]

i think having to use all 3 weapons on an ability-based warframe seems klinda noobish

so protea + xoris + epitath im trying to do everything, ofc not best at everything but managable

but im a noob and still learning im just trying to understand the foundation

[weak iron]

Why all 3? Just a primer and either melee or a dps gun?

[glacial iris]

Might as well make use of the entire load out not just the warframe though

[hard cliff]

but i also have limited resources so im trying to build with the hardest content in mind already

[hard cliff]

yep thats my plan

[weak iron]

Do you have protea's 4 augments?

[leaden obsidian]

Do you have both proteas augs?

[hard cliff]

primer + xoris + protea's abilities

no i swapped ult for gloom, I use gloom with her passive, the enemies are barely moving, i know its generic and casual but yeah im playing it safe before i experiment more haha

i didnt like her ability, i know some people can make use of it but i didnt enjoy it, i wanted to use something less gimmicky

[worldly dome]

YOOOOOOOO

[hard cliff]

someone also recommended nourish but that seemed like an overkill to me, i think i prefer gloom (also i dont have grendel)

[leaden obsidian]

Lemme ask you an important question. Did you swap the 1 tap and hold casts?

[worldly dome]

GLAIVE RIVEN POG

[hard cliff]

yes, but i swapped it back, the level of content im currently at I can still afford to have dmg on 1 and shields on hold

[weak iron]

Isnt it's dispo poop?

[hard cliff]

when i get to more difficult content i will invert it

[leaden obsidian]

Hmmm

[hard cliff]

so i can get shields quicker

[worldly dome]

I have literally no interest in disposition, it's money for whales

0 reroll is 120p

[weak iron]

When you get to harder content you'll regret learning to do it the wrong way round tho.

And her dmg on 1 is kinda useless compared to her 4

[hard cliff]

if by 4 you mean her temporal /chrono move i dont have it anymore i swapped it for gloom

but if youre saying having shields at instant cast is more important, i will invert it again and get used to it more

[weak iron]

That's what I'm saying: you've removed the skill that makes her go super-saiyan and put a mediocre energy-draining slow in it's place.

[hard cliff]

i just dont like it, i dont think its that good, i know people can make it work, I even bought the augments with plat and i still didnt like it, i always ended up with less energy, somewhere random

[leaden obsidian]

I see what you’re getting at, unfortunately if you subsume her 1 off, her pillage at home goes byebye too

[hard cliff]

that said im sure there are other good or better optiosn than gloom

i was thinking of getting Pillage aalso for different build

but for now I want to make gloom work, like other youtubers did, and adjust here and there to make it work and fun for me

i really enjoy xoris and glaive gameplay

[weak iron]

No that wasn't my point. My point was that subsuming her 4 off is super terrible. I am aware that subsuming her 1 off would be terrible too. Imho the only subsumable slot on her is 3 and only if ur putting Nourish there.

[hard cliff]

if I put cold mod on xoris, will Xoris's intrinsic electrical damage make it deal magnetic?

[leaden obsidian]

I see

[hard cliff]

i really enjoy her 3 and really dislike her 4, thank god for helminth xd

[leaden obsidian]

People be hating on the 4, idk why. I like her 4

[hard cliff]

when i learned how equilibrium works, i love her 3 now

no one is hating on it its just a preference there are just more casual friendly things to put on that instead thats all

its clunky to use objectively

[subtle flume]

Man, i need to farm grendel

[hard cliff]

and when you invert for the shields for 1, having to hold the 4 just to reverse time and not completely cancel the ability feeels sooooo bad

[weak iron]

Pillage needs something like 320 str and requires you to use cp (or otherwise 400 str). If you're willing to throw your passive away then 220 or 300 str. Compared to one mod that makes her dps ability shred armour passively with any amount of strength.

[weak iron]

Bro..... just cancel the ability. That's the whole point.

[hard cliff]

yes i just learned a moment ago her 1 does slash damage so mighjt not invest too much into armor strip

just enough

[leaden obsidian]

Are either of mirages augments good

[hard cliff]

its easier to juse use something else in there xd anyway

[weak iron]

An unmodded Miter does slash damage, doesn't mean using miter is a reason to not srmour strip

[strong field]

what antigen and mutagen do i use on panzer?

[leaden obsidian]

Your logic isn’t logicing

[weak iron]

Afaik her 4 and 2 augment are both very good. I haven't used her myself.

[leaden obsidian]

She has a 4 augment?

I don’t see it here

[weak iron]

The easiest way to play her is with either 0 subsumes or nourish subsumed on 3. If you find recasting her 4 before it rewinds you difficult you'll probably also find a pillage build difficult because it requires way more micro-management.

[hard cliff]

interesting

[weak iron]

And afaik pillage will mess with your 1s shieldgate, though I'm not sure about that.

[hard cliff]

i suppose simply using her 4 for the aug to make turets follow you around and then just cancelling it is good combo

but i just simply dislike that ability, and this playstyle

i prefer noob gloom

[leaden obsidian]

Running both augments is good, free armor strip and turret folloeing you

@fathom cipher What augments should I focus on grabbing for mirage

[weak iron]

Don't mean to be an arsee but why are you playong Protea if you actually wanna play Sevagoth? XD

[silver hill]

righ or left?

[weak iron]

Poggers

Right

[weak iron]

Wait what for tho?

[worldly dome]

just had my Condroc gang hold the door for me lmfao

[silver hill]

which one do I choose?

[weak iron]

What are you using ceramic dagger for?

[worldly dome]

If I had to guess, killing stuff

[weak iron]

Probably right but I'm not the right person to ask and if using it as a stat stick the answer changes for every different frame afaik.

[worldly dome]

yoooo this isn't half bad

[silver hill]

statstick

[weak iron]

Is this the stats with Trumna or Trumna Prime dispo?

[worldly dome]

you keep mentioning dispo and I don't know or care about dispo

it does not matter

A riven being half a percent worse just because it's a Trumna does not matter

[weak iron]

Yeah then I'd suggest asking in #builds-discussion and specifically saying which frames cozz some want different stats to others

[weak iron]

Yeah not worse than other rivens, worse than non-riven mods. For example, if you get an element and sc on a Xoris riven, it will literally be a worse version of a 6060 mod. So I'm not saying the riven is worse than it would be if it had a better dispo, I am saying if not a godroll the riven will usually make the gun worse than simply not having a riven.

I mean, purple mod is cool af and that's a valid reason to use it anyway

But dispo kinda is a big deal xD

[worldly dome]

A tradeoff of some strength to get upto 3 positive effects in 1 mod slot is a worthy trade off

Dispo does not matter, it's what whales use to justify the market changing

"bad dispo, wouldnt value it over X plat"

[weak iron]

I mean.... that's just not true xD

[worldly dome]

It literally is

Even if it did, dispositions change

So I wait for it to change 🤷🏼‍♂️

[weak iron]

Bruh

[worldly dome]

Yes?

[weak iron]

Depends what you're unslotting. I suppose if you can replace an elemental, but otherwise you're just outright losing stats.

[weak iron]

Waiting for dispo to change is 10/10 cope xD

[worldly dome]

Well obviously it depends on that

[worldly dome]

I'm not waiting for dispositions to change, I literally said "if" they mattered

[weak iron]

Since when do weapon stats not matter?

[worldly dome]

Weapon stats matter, but dispositions change barely anything.

[weak iron]

On a max dispo weapon that riven could easily replace vital sense, on this one that'd be a dps loss. Because dispo.

[worldly dome]

Ok bro

[weak iron]

Oh. My bad.

[worldly dome]

You think what you need to

[sudden flame]

dispos change alot ngl

[leaden obsidian]

Idk how to play mirage

[covert lily]

Push her stim buttons, 2 and 4 have optional build uses with augments.

[leaden obsidian]

2 and 4?

[covert lily]

4 isnt completely terrible by itself or for low level clear, but you do have to stack casting speed and rely on enemy density to make a ton of use in any case

2 booby traps things, 4 is radiation disco ball

[leaden obsidian]

I see

[rapid mulch]

Best incarnons to pick this week?

[worldly dome]

Hate & Dread

[rapid mulch]

K

Guess I'll get the sibear Incarnon the next time

[pallid canyon]

Sibear is also a great option if you dont want the dread incarnon

Hate IMO is a must-grab

before the augment i wouldn’t have recomended Dread at all

[leaden obsidian]

I have space for 1 aug, idk which one to buy

This is what I’m currently rocking

Idk if duration is needed or wanted

[covert lily]

Its convenient. Not the most necessary for a simple weapons platform build.

[leaden obsidian]

I’m getting conflicting answers to “what augments should I grab”

Heard the 1 and 3s aug from cascade, heard 2 and 4s from here

[covert lily]

1+3 boosts her weapon platform ability, 2+4 are for her nuke builds

[leaden obsidian]

I’ll probably end up getting all 4 augments, rn I want weapon platform

[covert lily]

Im not 100% on which between 1&3 is the strongest standalone

[leaden obsidian]

I’m hearing total eclipse is enough

[covert lily]

Thats what i would have assumed. Also means you dont have to worry as much about duration

[leaden obsidian]

Changed my setup

[pure gulch]

and as such the last frame I need from circuit is upon my foundry

[harsh geyser]

Hate is always gonna be best pick. It’s arguably the best incarnon right now anyways

[pure gulch]

why oh why could it just not be without the silly little A at the front

[leaden obsidian]