paleontology

[charred hearth]

also, almost everything that isnt a 1 slot or 2 slot would starve to death due to how small the maps would be irl

[paper parcel]

They should make a realistic stat server with all the sauropod mods and none official dino mods and see what happens

[charred hearth]

again, rex would be the best land playable

[native kindle]

yeah those died off. lmao

[charred hearth]

if im correct, rex outruns every 4 and 5 slot? besides like, hatz, sucho, maybe cherius, maybe bars

[native kindle]

hatzeg is a 3 slot these days but yeah. almost every herbivore and half the carnivores are abysmally slow irl for the games standards

[ancient crystal]

Rex players would be an even greater cancer than they already are, and sarco players would probably be even more miserable

[paper parcel]

Yeah no megapackers suck in general, not just rexes in them, I have seen people literally just have multiple apexes to beat other apexes and then just have tons of those small annoying dinos just to counter kents/aeros

[light osprey]

Realistic stats hopefully entail a game whose fundamental structures forces players to be “realistic” in their actions which maybe can be fun or be dreadfully boring.

[paper parcel]

have you heard of my idea that would forcibly and temporaily reduce the iq of players and force them to become dinos in game, like the matrix? Sadly not possible though it would solve alot.

[charred hearth]

every hunt would just be getting ran down or getting one shot

like, nothing would be able to fight stegosaurus as it would just one shot almost the entire roster

[paper parcel]

stegos were slow though, you would have to go for its head

[charred hearth]

werent they quite good at turning in place?

[outer tusk]

Yes

[charred hearth]

@hallow spear has there been any studies on how well stego was able to turn in place?

[hallow spear]

yes

[paper parcel]

the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for paleontology.

[charred hearth]

what?

[hallow spear]

https://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2021AM/meetingapp.cgi/Paper/367356 this is part of it

[outer tusk]

Stego I kneo you don't do sauropod much but what do u think of this?

[stiff osprey]

bro is living in 2011

[charred hearth]

what does that even mean

[paper parcel]

hmmm, seems a little oversized. even the giraffetitan is

[outer tusk]

His Saurolophus is pretty odd too

Alot of his pieces are oversized

[charred hearth]

broken jaw

[balmy oyster]

I’m glad hadrosaurs can’t do that it’s one thing “creosaur” allosaurus can dislocate its jaws

[thorn grove]

clearly they did it to hoover up large numbers of baby tyrannosaurs

[charred hearth]

what would've been the fastest group of sauropods? would it be dicreosaurids as their the smallest?

[charred hearth]

someone explain the joke to me

[paper parcel]

Allosaurus can dislocate its jaw to swallow diplodocus whole? Real?/jk

[wooden bluff]

Hi, I want to know your opinion on this pachy

maybe the jaw is too long?
also this is perotorum

[charred hearth]

are elephants the only species beside humans to hold "grudges " ?

[balmy oyster]

There was a instance of a tiger that was shot at by a hunter, and it spent about 2 days tracking him down and waiting for him to return to the area just to ambush him

[coral forge]

crows hold grudges on par with if not worse than elephants

[balmy oyster]

Crows and wasps also retain memory of faces and will try to bother you back if you can

[charred hearth]

i dont know, i think killing someone then going to their funeral to beat up their body is kinda bad

[charred hearth]

would you say there needs to be a level of intelligence to hold grudges? beucase i view crows and elephants as very smart, but wasps? i dont know , hearing that makes me interested

[coral forge]

if you do something to make a crow dislike you, it will teach its entire bloodline and crows around it to also hate you and sometimes attack you on sight for generations depending on how bad you messed up

[charred hearth]

generational truama....

[balmy oyster]

Likely, plus some insects are pretty intelligent for what they are especially bees & wasps

[charred hearth]

what makes a animal intelligent? like, how do you define levels of intellegence in animals? lets use bees and wasps, how do you determine if their intelligent or not?

like, i've always wondered how exactly you determine a animals level of intelligence, is it through problem solving?

[balmy oyster]

It’s probably a very intricate and lengthy topic that I unfortunately probably can’t explain

From my understanding, nearly all animals have sentience, but sapience or much more “humanlike” thinking happens far less often as most animals just need brain function enough to survive, mantain some sort of social structure, and mate

But with some, if you have the energy & capacity to get enough nutrients from what you eat/hunt to sustain more brain activity then the brain can allow itself for more specific actions and thought processes

[charred hearth]

thats quite interesting actually, thank you for informing me of this!

[balmy oyster]

I think this should be good so far

[balmy oyster]

Glad I could help!

[charred hearth]

im gonna assume that due to this ruleset of determining intellegence, its virtually impossible to tell the intellegence of a extinct animal?

[balmy oyster]

You’d think, but we managed to figure out tyrannosaurus brain capability some time ago

Brain cases can say a lot about an animal (specifically dinosaurs in this situation) and is also considered a good indicator of telling species apart

[charred hearth]

and what did we learn about it? i know alot of tyrannosaurus is compared to modern birds of prey, like eye sight, is its intellegance also comparable to them?

[balmy oyster]

I read that it was comparable to a Baboon & had the capacity to form “societies”, which is pretty cool

Also “societies” as in social groups and whatnot, not like…civilisations. Confused me when I first read it.

[charred hearth]

so like, bachelor groups of male rexes would be a very likely possibility? ( i believe those are things baboons get into? thats what i do remember of it , or something like that. )

[balmy oyster]

That would be fun to think about it

[charred hearth]

alot of things to think about with baboon intellegence rex

is this a reliable chart?

[undone rapids]

Recent papers have said that we probably shouldn't expect them to be like mammals or even crocs, as in they wouldn't be croc-like or bird-like intelligence, but would just be their own thingie

[frail robin]

Putting dogs above parrots and cephalopods is CRAZY

[runic rover]

There was a case of a dog attacking his owner's killer after 7+ years, can't find the source since I saw this when I was a kid and never seen it again.

Also pretty sure Orcas and Dolphins would be capable of them, Orcas already attacking ships for apparent no reason (could be easily about them witnessing other orcas being killed or captured and being unable to reconnect it to the ones standing over the ship).

[charred hearth]

so its not reliable im assuming?

[balmy oyster]

A perfect conclusion to come.

Way too many people, papers included, try to compare dinosaurs to modern day animals, even though there are so many that have existed for so long and are so variable, and I’d argue are even alien to what we have today

[frail robin]

Probs not, reptiles are smarter than we give them credit for

[balmy oyster]

I mean have you seen the kinds of stuff some dogs can do?

Also that one dog which speaks through buttons and proceeded to have an existential crisis over its own existence, and reportedly started taking antidepressants.

[charred hearth]

WHAT?

[balmy oyster]

It was pretty big a while back but it fizzled down over time, you can probably find a video or few explaining the situation

[frail robin]

Yeah but it's not parrot or cephalopod level intelligence. Dogs are intelligent because they are social, but parrots and cephalopods use their intelligence outside of social interactions

[balmy oyster]

I will say it is impressive with what birds & octopods can do, and I haven’t seen any dog open a jar up

Heck I’ve seen BEES do it. What’s your excuse canines!!

[undone rapids]

Just recently we had a cow first show clearly show tool use capabilities and there was alot of "are we underestimating cow intelligence.." etc. Tbh there isn't any simple reliable way to measure it, tool use is something we consider to be a signifier, but that's not something most animals need or even have appendages to use tools. Elephants have a trunk and we have hands, if more animals had such things we might see more tools being used all over. So I don't think its really the best way to measure stuff. We struggle with extant animals this much, extinct ones might as well be impossible

[balmy oyster]

There are so many factors to what can cause sapience, and even if you try to narrow it down to limb flexibility & usage or something, you still get outliers like cetaceans that also end up being on par with sapience but have no usable appendages

I still think it had some part to do with what an animal eats and if it can sustain itself enough for more various brain activities

[coral forge]

do you have the paper for this? It would be useful for a project I'm doing

[balmy oyster]

Sadly no, but I’ll look around for it and lyk if I do find it

[fluid inlet]

lol where ants buddy

[charred hearth]

besides elephant, i notice alot of animals that are considered intellegence primarly eat meat, is there any link between that or no?

[coral forge]

nice thank you

[balmy oyster]

Higher nutritional gain, it’s one part of why hominids began becoming so intelligent and notorious hunters

[coral forge]

I'd assume meat = more energy = easier to sustain a more powerful brain

[fluid inlet]

It’s called a intelligence chart based off humans, it’s as reliable as the person that ask 200,000 questions a year

[bright veldt]

I do think with reptiles in particular a lot of it is just that their behaviors don't exactly facilitate intelligence in an easy way to recognize. It also doesn't help that that lower metabolism also seems to make them literally think slower.

[charred hearth]

i wonder who that could be.....

[balmy oyster]

I mean if it’s true that crocodilians can prefer certain colors over others and are able to mimic certain actions like a person drowning

I’ve got no problem in believing they are more intelligent than we give them credit for

[bright veldt]

The mimicing drowning thing is a load of nonsense.

[charred hearth]

it is?

[balmy oyster]

Ah okay. Had a feeling

What about the colors one though? I feel like I’ve seen a study about how crocs preferred pink or something?

[bright veldt]

Mixed. Unsure on that but it wouldn't be exactly wrong to assume they can prefer colors.

[charred hearth]

can we assume animals intellegence through close relatives? like, i have no problem believing alot of prehestoric elephants like mammoths, paleoxodon and more were as intellegent as modern day elephants

[bright veldt]

We can assume such similarities yes.

[undone rapids]

Jensen 2025 had some interesting things on Cognition, though I haven't read much on dino intel in general

[charred hearth]

i wonder how many cavemen funerals mammoths were crashing

[undone rapids]

The paper responding to this one was published alongside this one which was funny : https://tetzoo.com/blog/2026/1/12/the-continuing-debate-on-dinosaur-cognition

[runic rover]

Well, herbivores need to either run or fight, a carnivore needs to do a lot more things to get the food, like ambushing, understanding the right moment, set traps, I'd assume it's the mental gymnastic that makes them develop intelligence over time.

This is just my own educated guess tho. I'm not a behaviourist

[misty scarab]

How big is Siats?

[pulsar galleon]

Crocs are super smart

[static widget]

Don't they rember and wait at locations prey has previously visited?

They also have crazy levels of maternity and bb care

[pulsar galleon]

Yes, they can also exhibit cooperative hunting

[undone rapids]

Even in Coordination : https://www.researchgate.net/publication/272369202_Apparent_coordination_and_collaboration_in_cooperatively_hunting_crocodilians

Alot of, "I scare them, you catch them"

[bitter quest]

We honestly don't know just estimates, we need more material

[fossil ingot]

Peak Material wdym

[runic heart]

Oh man, THATS peak.

[crude rock]

Ya know, it saddens me to realize the insurmountable number of animal & plant fossils that we’ll never find cause they could have lived on now gone islands, in ocean rocks & were too small & delicate

[misty scarab]

Fair

[bitter quest]

Do you one better, the best material!

[warm saddle]

Divide it and give it to the next guy

[green helm]

i mean hey sharing is caring tho give that guy some fossils

[true juniper]

A single dingle bone

[fast hollow]

What is this gremlin even supposed to be

[green helm]

the creature.

[charred hearth]

wait...this lowkey makes sense

what makes elephants outliers ?

proof that elephants are secretly carnivores...? like edmusthosaurus...?

[thorn grove]

i mean keep in mind our ancestors were predominantly herbivorous

even though increasing meat consumption (and therefore protein intake) is thought to correlate to our larger brains vs our ancestors, apes are still quite intelligent compared with most other animals including most carnivores

[tough parcel]

Something something “Judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree and it will go its whole life thinking it’s dumb”

[jagged trellis]

i mean the issue is on intelligence is its not exactly measurable in a genuine way beyond: thing exists in a scale that isn't a blob swimming in circles, which even then we have literal blobs that can solves puzzles lmao
comparing it to human thinking ends up leaving out alot
elephants have amazing memory because they need it to sustain their obscenely large groups on social and nutrients
and having what is functionally a grapple capable arm, does mean you need better grip gauging

[charred hearth]

proof that mudskippers are the smartest fish...?

[jagged trellis]

heck don't some hominids have bigger brain cases than us for instance

[stiff osprey]

elephant intelligence probably has something to do with their unstable environment but they really did not need such massive brains to survive, they could have been just sauropods with tusks and itd have worked fine

[outer tusk]

chat am already done with this but I was curious if I should add anything to make it a carcharodontosaurian

[runic heart]

What is it?

[outer tusk]

a shark

[runic heart]

Skull belonging to what specifically?

[charred hearth]

guess what gigantosaurini the skull belongs too, if you fail, you die.

[outer tusk]

a composite of different allosaurs

[runic heart]

So allosaurus? Or early Cretaceous carchs?

[outer tusk]

allosaurS

^

[runic heart]

Wish I could man face react this

So generic early Cretaceous carch

[charred hearth]

@stiff osprey will you ever make a updated version of your Aquarium Mk.II? i think it looks really interesting and would love to see a updated version!

i just realized how massive Parapuzosia is, what the hell.

if im correct, livy , leed and dunk all get smaller

meg gets larger?

[ancient crystal]

Longer, maybe larger, depends on how old this image is.

Lots of the old meg recons blend together because they boil down to making the body a little wider or slimmer

[charred hearth]

this image was Published: Dec 16, 2016

[ancient crystal]

Then yeah, I'm pretty sure that would've been before the big upsize

[charred hearth]

how much smaller had leed, livy and dunk gotten since 2016?

[runic heart]

Pretty sure most everything there also gets smaller

[charred hearth]

" Dunkleosteus terreli: 6 meters, ~1 tonne "

" Leedsichthys problematicus: 16.5 meters, ~40 tonnes? "

" Livyatan melvillei: ~15.7 meters, 40-50 tonnes "

[ancient crystal]

Meg went from like 50 tons to >100 tons down to 90 tons while still adding several meters to its maximum length

[charred hearth]

2016 megalodon was

" Carcharocles megalodon: ~18 meters, ~50 tonnes "

[little mauve]

Complex parental care/extended developmental periods is likely a strong driver in the evolution of cognition in multiple groups including elephants
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7293161/

[charred hearth]

how accurate is this leed size? ( still by random )

[fluid inlet]

Idk I wasn’t there

[charred hearth]

yes you were

[runic heart]

You was there too 😀

[charred hearth]

yeah, leed started mini-gun firing Ophthalmosaurus at me 🙁

[thorn grove]

Shirtz is unc confirmed

[tough parcel]

@stiff osprey Please fact check your chart

[gloomy sundial]

lets not be rude

[charred hearth]

???

[outer tusk]

pretty good

[charred hearth]

whats the largest animal that was capable of flying? was it a bird or azdarchid?

[tender dove]

Quetzalcoatlus, an azdarchid

[charred hearth]

how much does Argentavis magnificens weigh compared to quetz and hatz?

[tough parcel]

Quetzalcoatlus or Hatzegopteryx are fighting

Birds can not get to their size due to the mechanics of how they take off (two limb vs four limb take off, two limbs are less efficient)

[tender dove]

What measurement of weight do you use?

[charred hearth]

pounds and tons

[balmy oyster]

I’d recommend kilograms over pounds cus everything uses the meteic system

[tough parcel]

Thank you Goanna 💛

[outer tusk]

kgs just sound nicer

[real swan]

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[plush fossil]

why did i get sniped

[charred hearth]

i dont know how kilograms work 🙁 im a american.

[balmy oyster]

I am too, but the more you interact with prehistoric animals the more you get used to metric stuff

I now never use the US system of measurement because of dinosaurs, lol.

[charred hearth]

whats the simplist way to understand kilograms?

[fluid inlet]

🫶🏽

[outer tusk]

THE DINOSAURS ARE RUINING THE SYSTEM!!! alan walker gif

[gloomy sundial]

Thank you 😍

[charred hearth]

who would've been the better flier, Argentavis magnificens or quetz?

[fluid inlet]

Idk?

[balmy oyster]

Quetz

[tender dove]

I don't know which but I'm going to guess in some ways Argentavis and in some other ways Quetzalcoatlus

[gloomy sundial]

I think qetzookattle beacuse much larger wing to fly and take control of the air

[charred hearth]

is it due to just general build and how weight distribution and stuff?

🙁

[fluid inlet]

Idk

[balmy oyster]

I heard both weren’t the best with flight BUT quetz has the advantage of an easy takeoff with how it launches itself into the air

[outer tusk]

there's amazing animation that does showcase just exactly that

[charred hearth]

do you have that animation?

[plush fossil]

why are pterosaur hands backwards? is it to support the giant finger thingy that has the wing membrane?
if this is a dumb question/doesnt make sense i apologise, im curious

[deft sigil]

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[plush fossil]

@gloomy sundial ? what is that reaction meant to mean?

[gloomy sundial]

Thank you ❤️ It was my mistake and apolgy

[gloomy sundial]

laughing 🤣

[plush fossil]

why??

[gloomy sundial]

your joke was funny

[plush fossil]

im confused on what you mean

[balmy oyster]

Why is everyone so passive aggressive today

[charred hearth]

wait...ammonites survived into the cenozoic??

[plush fossil]

if ur talking about me then im sorry, i just wanna know why my message got reacted to

[gloomy sundial]

was it not joking?

[balmy oyster]

Nah ur good, dinotest is acting weird though

[outer tusk]

W ass image

[charred hearth]

i didnt know that ammonites persisted into the cenozoic, thats so cool

[plush fossil]

no, it was a genuine question

[charred hearth]

https://x.com/kafun/status/2023283894607618103 heres the og if you want it

かふん (@kafun)

Commission https://t.co/AeR9FYBdrV

X · Feb 16, 2026, 6:30 AM

[balmy oyster]

I’m not too sure on why, but I suppose it’s some sort of privy biomechanical thing

[thorn grove]

i use metric for everything, physics, dinos, everyday stuff, but I still find both systems quite interchangeable (but ig i'm more of a numbers person)

[plush fossil]

thank you!

[outer tusk]

thanks you Top G, W glaze

[charred hearth]

https://x.com/TomHoltzPaleo/status/2006780404725067926 thoughts?

Thomas R. Holtz, Jr. 🦖💕 (he/him) (@TomHoltzPaleo)

Earliest Cenozoic ammonites:

Machalski, M., Olszewska-Nejbert, D., Landman, N.H. et al. Ammonite survival across the Cretaceous–Paleogene boundary confirmed by new data from Denmark. Sci Rep 15, 45802 (2025). https://t.co/LyicrMfpo1

X · Jan 1, 2026, 5:31 PM

seeing how they managed to survive the extinction, i wonder what truly put the nail in their coffin and killed them off

[tender dove]

If I remember correctly, they survived but they did not last for that long after the extinction event, and I mean a couple million years

[balmy oyster]

If they could make it, alongside stratodus…

where is any non avian dinosaur

[ancient crystal]

Probably related to their shells and poor ocean parameters

[ancient crystal]

I would honestly say its a near guarantee that non-avians survived to some length into the cenozoic, even lacking fossil evidence.

The real question would be for how long

[charred hearth]

do you count gastornis? or no

[ancient crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-no-thinking-nope-skinner-gif-16471648

[charred hearth]

dinos....random...

oh my god, its randomdinos.

do we think we'll find any early paleogene marine reptiles? like mosasaurids , or pterosaurs?

[ancient crystal]

Probably not pterosaurs since, iirc, they were already in a decline leading up to the end cretaceous

Small mosasaurs may have persisted into the paleogene, but just like non-avaians, probably not for very long

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@gloomy sundial Hello there. If you'd like to report another user, please reach out to us via @feral crane and we'll review your request. Keep in mind this channel is dedicated exclusively to paleo related discussions and to discuss server moderation and rule enforcement, Modmail would be the way to go.

[balmy oyster]

Well that was…odd.

Anyways here’s stegosaurus plate arrangement from uhhh, I forgot where tbh i just know it exists

[fluid inlet]

I don’t think y’all trolling is funny , report me for what ? Who tf is that

[balmy oyster]

Not a clue, but they started to get angry and accuse me of nothing too

[charred hearth]

would it be marine species that would have the best chances of surviving for a small time into the paleogene?

[ancient crystal]

Yes

[tough parcel]

Was I pinged or smth? Tryna take a fat nap

[upbeat hornet]

thats a nautilus

[balmy oyster]

Someone was acting strange and we jokingly assumed they were an alter ego of yours

Turns out they were just strange.

[charred hearth]

is it actually...

[ancient crystal]

Hmmmm, they woke up from their nap after dinotest left...

Suspicious 🤔

[upbeat hornet]

looks like one yeah, it just seems the artist drew it more "ammonite-y" than a nautilus actually looks like

[tough parcel]

Sorry guys, Mr. Hyde wanted to go for a walk

My secret side I keep..
hid under lock and key...I keep it caged, but I can't control it...

[ancient crystal]

Why is it only my reaction images that ever get removed by mods?

I'm starting to think the parrot has it out for me

[balmy oyster]

Because they’re offtopic to paleo chat

[charred hearth]

thoughts...?

on a serious note though. https://x.com/CodyFandom_/status/2023268193251307835

Commander Cody HATES fascists (@CodyFandom_)

PLEASE SIGN AND SHARE!

Dinosaur Valley State Park in Glen Rose, Tx is in danger!!! Please help spread the word.

They want to install a 2600 ACRE data center there that will destroy the natural resources.

X · Feb 16, 2026, 5:28 AM

[tough parcel]

Only a few days after we solved the mystery too...

[charred hearth]

i really hope something is done to prevent this from happening.

[ancient crystal]

Well Texas shot down a moratorium against it, so chances are that data center is being built.

Well- half built, abandoned after AI market collapse, and then turned for a profit as a tax write off

[charred hearth]

so...its gonna be built but wont steal resources from the enviorment...?

[ashen wedge]

Question, could it be possible for them to have blood vessels to flush their plates with blood?

[ancient crystal]

No, its going to be built over an extraordinarily valuable piece of land, require large scale clearing of flora and fauna, all the materials will be produced and ordered and the BEST CASE is that it doesn't actually go operational thanks to the instability of the market its being built to support

There is no situation where this thing being even partially constructed is good. It is wasteful beyond measure.

And mods this is still in regards to the one being built in Dinosaur Valley so this is on topic.

[charred hearth]

awe 🙁

[winter marsh]

How come you frame my boy like that. He'd never do such things

[wind prairie]

careful, pterosaur fans will jump you for saying that (I'm pterosaur fans)

[balmy oyster]

Why are tech companies so insistent of pushing AI infrastructure and production when it’s already proved people find marketing and usage of it to be distasteful outside of memes or shtposting

[ancient crystal]

Greed, the death of the free market and consumer choice, etcetera

[full lagoon]

Wow that's just great.

Quite literally destroying (pre) history for something ultimately worthless

At the very least I was able to visit as a Texan.

[ancient crystal]

At a risk of being off topic, its just about as worthless as it can get.

The existing infrastructure is more than capable of supporting AI and the bare minimum applications it has to be called a tool, all these additional data centers are a complete waste

[full lagoon]

And that's just part of the reason why it's worthless in comparison, but yes, I agree we are steering off topic.

[wooden bluff]

I finish the pachy of the other day

[outer tusk]

heeeey is it possible if you can see me your chasmosaurus in this exact quality, DA has is pretty off

[misty scarab]

Neato

[wooden bluff]

which chasmo?

[outer tusk]

all of them

[wooden bluff]

I always forget to choose the image size in DA sorry

[winged swallow]

waiting for the day an ai slop channels has their ai some how confuse shonisaurus for the hindenburg

[charred hearth]

allosaur fans, give your input

[ashen wedge]

I hate to say it…. But wouldn’t that apply to any carnivore hunting a creature that it lived with and is currently extinct?

[charred hearth]

i dont know, im just here to ask questions not answer them.

[thorn grove]

I could see them mobbing sauropods to death, it's a similar size ratio as komodo dragons and some of their prey and maybe besides diplodocids with their tails most sauropods don't really have much in the way of defense, even just throwing their weight around would be difficult given they're graviportal

[charred hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/taiho-shichau-zo-teehee-anime-youre-under-arrest-ova-gif-21342147

[ember mantle]

It's very much possible, I see it as a lions and elephants type of situation where allosaurus would, like all predators, most likely target young, old, sick, or injured sauropods but would avoid stronger individuals

[little mauve]

A komodo dragon-like feeding ecology seems fairly likely to me given their dentition. Opportunistic and more generalized compared to Ceratosaurus and Torvosaurus. Probably took a wide range of prey, including possibly the largest sauropods with mobbing type behavior. The proportion of different prey sizes may have varied by individual or population or region or all of the above.

[ancient crystal]

So what you're saying is that allosaurus wasn't the lion of the jurassic, but the monitor lizard of the jurassic and had a septic bite to kill all the giant prey it only ever hunted

[little mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yessss-simpsons-gif-11721141

[paper parcel]

was spinosaurus four legged?

[ancient crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/grinch-yes-no-indecision-the-grinch-gif-15678946

[paper parcel]

so this is possible?

[ancient crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-no-thinking-nope-skinner-gif-16471648

[paper parcel]

btw there used to be a trend where people used to dress up lizards for dinosaur movies(slurpasaurs) Probably better then modern cgi and totally accurate

[vapid vigil]

is this the place to post cool fossils i’ve seen in person

[vapid vigil]

ok here’s deinonychus, one of my favorite dinosaurs and my main in the game

[craggy trench]

I don’t think that’s a deinon

[vapid vigil]

trex for scale

[thorn grove]

that is in fact a Thescelosaurus

[vapid vigil]

i took these photos years ago and lost the photos of the labels so it’s possible i’m wrong, let me check the museum’s website

[thorn grove]

no offense since I can't expect everyone to know the exact morphology of every extinct animal but that looks nothing like a Deinonychus

[vapid vigil]

ah i was misremembering because there was a deinonychus on display elsewhere in the museum

[vapid vigil]

no offense taken i have very poor eyesight and am new to dinosaurs (is this funny to say) despite patronizing museums occasionally. i appreciate the correction from people who know better

i am much more familiar with prehistoric north american mammals and only recently got the dino bug

[thorn grove]

Here's an image of a Deinonychus mount, there's a large number of differences since it and Thescelosaurus are not closely related within Dinosauria, but perhaps some of the most immediately obvious differences are that Thescelosaurus has a smaller skull and smaller teeth, smaller forelimbs without the pronounced finger claws, and lacks the large and iconic toe claw that Dromaeosaurids like Deinonychus are best known for

Thescelosaurus was a smaller herbivorous Ornithischian

Deinonychus was a Dromaeosaur, a group within the Maniraptoran Theropods (Maniraptora being the group that also includes birds)

[vapid vigil]

oh wow i have a lot to learn. you’re absolutely right the claw is a very big tell i overlooked

the last museum i went to i was surprised by the amount of mounts on display that pinged “triceratops” in my dinosaur noob brain despite not being one. i must learn more

[bright veldt]

The teeth are a big one. The clearest way I can describe is that herbivore teeth are typically packed together like how our teeth are. vs predators like that Deinon where the teeth are more obviously spiky.

[vapid vigil]

wow yeah upon zooming in the back of the mouth in particular looks very different to my eye

[charred hearth]

https://x.com/MAstronomers/status/2023441861269221744

Curiosity (@MAstronomers)

Molly, a 9-year-old girl, received a fossil-hunting kit for Christmas and just half an hour later found a megalodon tooth from 20 million years ago.

X · Feb 16, 2026, 4:58 PM

[ancient crystal]

I'd beat up Molly for that tooth

[charred hearth]

SHES 9 :(((((

[thorn grove]

based

[charred hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/britney-12-gif-27570847

[ancient crystal]

I dig through shark waste water to collect their teeth, I'm not above kicking a child in pursuit of that same goal

[charred hearth]

is it worth going through shark waste water for their teeth

[ancient crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/grinch-yes-no-indecision-the-grinch-gif-15678946

[charred hearth]

whats the oldest tooth you've found?

[ancient crystal]

I don't know the oldest but today I found the smallest

[tough parcel]

Considering Meg teeth half as complete as that go for like $400

Yes, I’m throwing hands

[charred hearth]

i wonder what would go for more, a complete tyrannosaurus tooth or a complete meg tooth?

[thorn grove]

off the top of my head no clue but megalodon teeth are probably easier to come by

6+ Inches: $3,000 – $15,000+ (rare, exceptional).

Large (3”+) / High-Quality/Rooted Teeth: $10,000 - $50,000+

according to the infallible google ai the tyrannosaurus teeth are worth more

[ancient crystal]

You're a paleontologist 30 years in the future and you have to choose one to excavate:

1. A fully articulated, miraculously preserved megalodon skeleton... only its found beneath the last living coral reef

2. A fully complete oxalaia found in the last few remaining healthy acres of the amazon but excavation would give the Brazilian government cause to further exploit the region

[thorn grove]

amazon is probably going down anyway sooner or later

[fluid inlet]

Love my Amazon prime

[fluid inlet]

Big

[proper dove]

2 for sure

[runic rover]

Having galeophobia makes an easy (2)

[gleaming talon]

Oxilia becase the value of that reef is greater then the forest

[balmy oyster]

Never let no paleontologist near a rainforest 🙏

[gleaming talon]

Omg im actually getting into a heated argument about birds being dinosaurs
They are

[balmy oyster]

What’s the other person trying to argue?

[gleaming talon]

That they aren’t because they evolved from them
Clearly mis understanding what a monophyletic group is

[balmy oyster]

They aren’t dinosaurs because they…evolved from dinosaurs?

Guys humans aren’t primates, this is because humans evolved from primates!!!!

[gleaming talon]

Also they just said that im wrong as we are multicellular but came from a unicellular organism

[balmy oyster]

Either this person is trolling, or they’re a long lost cousin to david peters of sorts

[halcyon cobalt]

well preserved remains in a rainforest

[gleaming talon]

Oh its like three people now

[halcyon cobalt]

thanks I needed a good laugh

[balmy oyster]

I mean if that were the case, it would be stupid to NOT go check out what is happening because it would be so bizarre

[halcyon cobalt]

I would evict 20 uncontacted tribes to see what is going on

[halcyon cobalt]

also this is a very cringe doomerist mindset

but a fun hypothetical I guess

[halcyon cobalt]

it’s a pretty common misconception which makes sense to make. just tell them that ‘multicellular’ and ‘unicellular’ aren’t classifications but descriptions

while ‘dinosaur’ is a classification

[gleaming talon]

Yep same with acellular things like viruses and viroids that border the line of living and non living

[halcyon cobalt]

I try not to argue these things in class though because I’ll get called a dork and be socially ostracised

[true juniper]

Erm actually dinosaurs are evolved from triassic pseudosuchians!!1!!

[coral forge]

people actually say this about birds though
I saw someone genuinely say "birds used to be dinosaurs but they evolved so much that they dont have dinosaur dna anymore so are no longer dinosaurs"

[halcyon cobalt]

you can’t blame “most people” for thinking that though, since to the layman a dinosaur is anything big with sclaes

[coral forge]

doesnt help that the definition most dictionaries give is "big mesozoic reptile"

[spark gate]

What plesiosaur would Nessie resemble most to?

[outer tusk]

An elasmosaur

[frigid delta]

is 12.7 to 13.5 meters long & 8.8 to 10.2 tons in weight is still accurate for Giganotosaurus's most up-to-date length & weight?

[pulsar galleon]

Something like that yeah

[runic rover]

instead of primates i read pirates and now i so much wish we evolved from shiver me timbers yohoho people

[brave nova]

12.4m and 8.2t

[runic heart]

How plausible is it atm that the other Meraxes specimen is larger?

[runic heart]

Nah grouping is just a weird thing. You could technically call us fish and you wouldn’t be wrong.

[gleaming talon]

I know but apparently thats also apparently thats wrong according to them

[runic heart]

Welp

[undone rapids]

The abstract mentions that the bones are comparable in size to those of giga, so it wouldn't be surprising for it to have been a similarly sized animal overall, we won't know specifics probably for a good few years

[ancient crystal]

Well good thing its a hypothetical then and not representative of my actual opinions

[full lagoon]

We'd be so screwed atp anyways I don't think it matters what you choose

[tough parcel]

Foooor unpublished information!

[ancient crystal]

https://peerj.com/articles/20796/
Behavioral implications of an embedded tyrannosaurid tooth and associated tooth marks on an articulated skull of Edmontosaurus from the Hell Creek Formation, Montana

[ancient crystal]

Also, just wanted to say something about this, I can't speak for the amazon, I'm not into terrestrial systems at all but practically all our models show catastrophic die backs of coral reefs by the year 2050 of anywhere between 70-90%

Since mitigation efforts typically have a ten year delay between implementation and results, there isn't much that can realistically be done to significantly alter this course at the moment

There's people playing around with assisted evolution, selective breeding, etc. But realistically, with our current knowledge, politics, and technology a "last remaining coral reef" in the year 2056 is not too far off from a very possible reality, and trying to paint these predictions as "doomerism" amounts to nothing else but sticking your head in the sand.

[shadow sleet]

I'm passionate about doing something to combat this outcome, but feel powerless to actually do anything about it.

[ancient crystal]

WHAT DID I EVEN SAY THAT TIME ALDERON I'M TRYING TO TALK ABOUT CORAL CONSERVATION

[shadow sleet]

It seems we are living in the 8th mass extinction. One that began about 12 thousand years ago

[shadow sleet]

Bro what's with the Cap locks, I'm on your side.

[paper parcel]

What the alds don't want you to know about

[ancient crystal]

Well I had this whole shpeel about challenges faced by coral reefs outside of climate change, and how there's some interesting stuff we can actually do to maybe aid coral reefs much more assuredly, but Alderon Automod likes to delete my messages for things I couldn't possibly understand

[shadow sleet]

I'm sorry to hear that, I really do want to hear what you have to say about this topic

[stiff osprey]

me when i got one deleted for talking about my image editing software (I was left genuinely wondering if "delete" was a bad word)

[shadow sleet]

Ping me directly about it if they are still blocking you

[ancient crystal]

Corals that reproduce through breeding have species-specific very precisely timed spawning events that historically would occur down to the hour across multiple reefs and thousands of kilometers of ocean (I'm realizing now automod deleted my message for the shorthand of kilometers I used)

This doesn't happen as reliably anymore because shifts in climate patterns means that the ques used to cause these events either never occur, or occur less broadly which stimies cross-fertilization between reefs. Fortunately, there is plenty that can be done through aquaculture to keep corals breeding even in the absence of reliable spawning events. There's plenty to be done through coral aquaculture in general but previously that's really only amounted to growing corals in captivity and hoping planting them in the wild won't just lead to them bleaching as well.

There's also work being done on altering their symbionts to be more heat-resistant since it isn't the polyps but the algae that actually can't handle the higher temperatures. This is a lot less assured however, because corals really don't like hosting symbionts they didn't evolve specifically to host.

That's the very basic rundown of some of the kind of newer developments in coral conservation. I could go a lot more into detail but every paragraph I write is a higher chance that one of the moderators sees this message and deletes it for not being paleo 💀

[shadow sleet]

Well to make it more paleo focused, how did Corals survive in the Paleoocene-Miocene, when temps were higher than today?

[tough parcel]

They locked in

Also Lunae, it's not the human moderators deleting your message, it's auto-mod registering a word as evil...I think

[ancient crystal]

So those warming events occurred over much longer time periods, and are actually more beneficial to the coral skeleton itself since the form of Calcium Carbonate corals use called Aragonite actually is more stable in warmer conditions, but in today's oceans, a combination of too-fast warming leading to abandonment by the coral's symbionts and higher pH breaking down the aragonite in spite of the benefit of warmer temperatures leads to the mass die offs we see today

[tough parcel]

I think what people don't realize when they say "Well erm, it was warmer than today thousands/millions of years ago and animals were fine!" is that most of the warming/cooling happened over a period of thousands of years

The current climate change is happening over the span of a few decades (Not saying anyone here, just in general)

[ancient crystal]

Yeah, algae can shrug off a global change in a few degrees if it happens over multiple millennia, not decades

[tough parcel]

It's like jumping into a frozen lake vs slowly walking in

[shadow sleet]

Gotcha

[little mauve]

great find, great paper

[ancient crystal]

I found a decent chunk of it to be redundant, but I suppose its all in the interest of being thorough when describing something as strangely contentious as Tyrannosaurus trophic ecology

[stiff osprey]

It's great to have because while there are three previous examples of rex predation on edmontosaurs in literature, one of them is now considered a potential mating injury and the other two are published by DePalma

[little mauve]

I appreciate the thoroughness, agreed that it's a somewhat mystifyingly contentious topic, and the wide examples while comparing with contemporary predators. They even mention limbless lizards.

[ancient crystal]

This, for example, strikes me as an unnecessary point in their discussion, but again they seem to have thoroughness - especially concerning previous literature - at heart so I guess its not too bad.

"Although some recent literature conceptualizes tyrannosaurids as both predators and scavengers (e.g., Holtz Jr, 2008; Horner, Goodwin & Myhrvold, 2011; Kane et al., 2016), some publications still describe adult tyrannosaurids as “apex predators” (e.g., Therrien et al., 2023)."

[stiff osprey]

Ok yeah that is a bit silly

[little mauve]

yeah agreed

[stiff osprey]

I have seen people dispute the use of "apex predator" as a term for large carnivores but honestly "top order carnivore" means the exact same thing so idk how that improves anything

Perhaps like the carnosaur, we should call them apex scavengers

[little mauve]

I think it might be an issue with their wording, because Horner et al 2011 literally does describe T. rex as a predator during one stage of its ontogeny and a scavenger later in its ontogeny. So a predator then a scavenger

[paper parcel]

Is it really scavenging if the corpse is fresh enough?

Vultures are literally specialized to be immune to poisonous and highly toxic bacteria

[craggy trench]

I guess we can’t have spoiled images of animals eating carcasses

[paper parcel]

Just use a image of a trex eating a burger since burgers are technically corpses and definitely not fresh

[snow python]

How heavy was giga holotype 7,84t or 8,5t?

[stiff osprey]

Yes

[paper parcel]

Giganotosaurus can destroy trexes tbh. This is because giganotosaurus lives in packs and trex does not

[undone rapids]

Giga has Family!!!

[tough parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-turn-your-back-on-family-you-cant-walk-away-from-family-you-cant-leave-family-behind-you-cant-ignore-family-you-cant-disregard-family-gif-16058425

[paper parcel]

Giganotosaurus(or mapusaurus) destroys lone arg with the power of friendship

[stiff osprey]

In the Dresden files, a resurrected body is more powerful the older it is. So Giganotosaurus being 30 million years older would easily beat rex

[paper parcel]

What

[tough parcel]

Random's been reading a book series, I fear

[undone rapids]

Herrerasaurus clears both then

[ancient crystal]

I even chose the least gorey images I could find

[paper parcel]

Tbh carcharodontids look better then trexes, they are alot more refined

[craggy trench]

pot paleo has it out for venator today fr

[ancient crystal]

I think the parrot doesn't like me

[paper parcel]

Sentenced to playing solo in pvp no rules server

[lucid gyro]

did anyone see that edmontosaurus trex paper im probably late

[thorn grove]

a wee smidge yea

[snow python]

What was the biggest carch? Mapu or the second Meraxes? Gomez is excluded

[lucid gyro]

wild that it was found, trex bite straight to the head even puncturing the eye

[charred hearth]

what would be more unsafe to swim with in real life, sarco or tylo?

[fossil ingot]

8.2t

[tough parcel]

I like Random's answer more

[fossil ingot]

Actually
Its 1kgs

[native kindle]

sarco would see you as food more than tylo would i reckon, but you're just dead anyway

[little mauve]

the tooth is embedded in the nasal, it's not puncturing the eye. https://peerj.com/articles/20796/ see figure 2

[charred hearth]

and im gonna assume out of the other aquatics, leed would be the safest to swim with?

[tough parcel]

There's a 50/50 chance they're mixing in DePalma's Edmontosaurus which had a large portion of its eyebrow torn off in an attack

[native kindle]

well there's not much to choose from otherwise so yeah

[charred hearth]

i mean, you can either swim with eurinho, kai or leed without dying, im gambling it all on leed

[lucid gyro]

sorry i misread the part where it talks about the 8th mark tooth, it’s below the orbit. i think i just misread as being in the eye itself

[snow python]

I found this image on a group, how accurate it is?

[tough parcel]

https://www.thecodontia.com/blog/giganotosaurus-but-the-3d-version

[lucid gyro]

does anyone own any skeletons/fossils? even if it’s casts it’s fine. i wanna buy a skull but idk where to rlly find one

[native kindle]

this is dizzy rose. never ever ever trust anything dizzy rose posts
they're a powerscaler ava youtuber who has no grounds in anything paleontology related

[charred hearth]

thoughts?

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.64898/2026.02.13.705779v1

[paper parcel]

They need to make a law or sign that tells people about whether a youtuber is a paleontologist or powerscaler, plus they are super toxic about lizards fighting

[charred hearth]

law is crazy

[paper parcel]

They lie and distort the truth and should face the consequences

Would hooves work on bipeds?

[undone rapids]

Don't use Dizzy rose, Dan has the skeletal on his website, Thecodontia. Even has weight estimate

[fluid inlet]

Depends the time of month n day lol

[idle storm]

Really great work, and important to recognize that the authors are also clear that only some of the data finds a paraphyletic "sharks." Ultimately really cool stuff that is probably pushing up against the limits of what we can currently find with genetics, and hopefully we will find some good paleozoic/early mesozoic fossils to help us resolve the issue.

[ancient crystal]

"Sharks might be going the way of prosauropods and fish"

I hope that person sees the redundancy in that statement

[silk radish]

"Oxalaia Is my favorite Dinosaur" https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3c/7f/20/3c7f203e38f21554d5c7097df102bd9c.png

[fossil ingot]

Dan has his Giga at 8000-8500kgs on the website
With a GDI he did at 8150kgs

[stiff osprey]

Wait is the news that some sharks may be closer to rays than to other sharks?

I thought this was already the case

[ancient crystal]

I'm further not too keen on their use of "Tyrannosaurid" which appears to stem soley off of GSP's work. Even in being thorough in your recognition of previous studies, doesn't mean you have to give all conclusions equal weight.

Just bite the bullet and say Tyrannosaurus better yet just say T. rex we all know that's where the tooth is from, so there's no point in wording your paper as if its unclear.

[silk radish]

Don't Rays COUNT as Sharks? as In they're like VERY closely related?

[ancient crystal]

No. They're all elasmobranchs, but sharks are thought of as distinct from batoids (Rays and Skates)

[silk radish]

Ohhh that makes sense

[woeful falcon]

The humble nanotyrannus gigas

[silk radish]

I'm ngl it makes sense that Nanotyrannus was In fact the last Non-Avian Dinosaur instead of yk Good Ol T-Rex

[woeful falcon]

Wdym

[full lagoon]

They existed alongside one another

[silk radish]

Don't we have somewhat plausible evidence that T-Rex KIND OF already started to die out before the Asteroid even came? If so I think it's clear that Nanotyrannus likely was the last Tyrannosaurid and Non-Avian Dinosaur

[woeful falcon]

No

Also there are loads of non-avian dinosaurs. And that's just talking about North america too

Whole ass planet of dinos

[full lagoon]

Yeah idk where you are getting that from

[silk radish]

Idk It might just be me misremembering some things

[ancient crystal]

"The last non-avian dinosaur" would still ingnore the many hundreds of species that would have lived alongside it otherwise

[sullen cairn]

i think its plausible. the appalachian migrant nanotyrannus likely supressed tyrannosaurus populations via mass infanticide, driving the latter near extinction

[full lagoon]

Non-avian dinosaurs were doing fine before the K-T extinction, even though some lineages and populations changed or died out through natural means.

[frail robin]

Same goes for pterosaurs btw

[undone rapids]

Aren't all confirmed nanos from lower hell creek?

[woeful falcon]

Here's something chat's not ready for: it's not improbable to think that other non-avian dinos survived K-T and died out

[silk radish]

I'm saying "Last non-avian Dinosaur" Since well, All Large Herbivores died, However I believe a small Number of Nanotyrannus survived the Impact for a while feeding off what was left before finally "dying out"

That's what I meant

[frail robin]

It's just poor preservation on the fossil record. A lot of pterosaurs were probably still around, even though we don't have any evidence

[full lagoon]

Some dinosaurs probably did hold on for a while afterwards until finally dying out, in fact it's probably more likely than not

[silk radish]

Yeah also that

[woeful falcon]

There's no reason to believe that. Nanotyrannus existing at all was up in the air until a few months ago, let alone living beyond the impact

[stiff osprey]

something like acheroraptor or troodon would have survived way longer than nanotyrannus based on food availability

[undone rapids]

Alverasaurids survived the longest cuz bugs, I was there and saw em

[full lagoon]

Alverasaurs and troodontids, perhaps some caegnathids

[undone rapids]

There was also a sauropodomorph that looked at me and said "No One Will Believe You"

[silk radish]

A significantly smaller size likely did give it a better chance, just probably didn't hold on as long as the other Bird-like dinosaurs did

[woeful falcon]

Smaller than t rex yes, but nanotyrannus wasn't a small animal all things considered

[full lagoon]

The largest and most specialized always go first because they need superb conditions

[silk radish]

There's still a possibility in my eyes

Not saying it was guaranteed but It's still very much possible

[full lagoon]

The only reason birds made it out is because most were small and incredibly generalized ground feeders at the time

[little mauve]

Birds were hiding out in a secret base in Antarctica, which penguins guard the secret of to this day

[woeful falcon]

Well even if you could say it did survive the extinction event for a bit, last non-avian is a lot more farfetched to say

[fossil ingot]

Feels weird seeing bro like this

[undone rapids]

The last non avian dino was a very avian looking non avian dino

[silk radish]

So in the end one could say Tyrannosaurus was starting to "suffer" quote on quote the same fate that awaited the Megalodon, being "Out-competed" by a smaller version of itself

Not EXACTLY but you get it

[full lagoon]

It would be impossible to point out any one species more than likely given that you probably wouldn't find them in the geological records

[paper parcel]

the real last non avian dinosaur is mokele mbembe in the amazonian river

[little mauve]

North American faunas were probably particularly badly hit by the initial blast, which cooked the surface thousands of miles away from the impact site. The impact record in NJ, some thousands of km away from the impact site, is 10 cm thick. That's a very short period of time

[full lagoon]

In the terms of megalodon that's not exactly true either. For both, they died out because in one way or another, the environment changed to a point where it couldn't support them.

[woeful falcon]

Unfortunately, most that didn't get killed from the asteroid prolly starved to death or something

[silk radish]

Wait till the Kasai Rex becomes relevant again smh smh

[compact leaf]

that was table being sarcastic

[tough parcel]

I feel like the usage of "outcompeted" is disingenuous because this implies the Nanotyrannus was punching at the same weight class as T. rex

I don't think there's ever been a recorded instance of outcompetition that wasn't later proven been to have caused by climate change

[paper parcel]

Fr, maybe they kidnapped all the dino cryptids and are keeping them in a government laboratory or something

[ancient crystal]

Megalodon did not get outcompeted by the great white, the isthmus of panama closed distrupting the flow of nutrients through the global oceans which lead to a die off in its prey

[undone rapids]

Also we've found like a billion rexes and 5 nanos that are all from lower hell creek iirc. While rexes are found all over the place

[light osprey]

Or perhaps mighty maniraptorans like Styginetta

[silk radish]

I meann, Nanotyrannus likely picked off any Rex that was young and smaller than itself (Survival mode on Nightmare difficulty)

[full lagoon]

Like I said earlier, it's more so environmental shifts than competition, and the same goes for the last dinosaurs, just in a more extreme context.

[tough parcel]

This is because T. rex is gigantic and easily preserves

I don't think T. rex was particularly the most common species in the formation!

[ancient crystal]

I would wager all megafaunal species on the american side of the planet were more or less wiped out on impact day including the polar bear sized nano

[undone rapids]

That's normal in every environment, leopards kill lion cubs quite often

[paper parcel]

Some days I wish the meteor would have missed and people were lizards

[silk radish]

My mistakes, tho I think it can't be denied that most of the large prey The Meg used to feed off also died out while the smaller ones still had access to smaller prey items so it kind of counted for the few Megs that survived that

[thorn grove]

have you considered the higher spawn rate for t rex since players found it to be cooler

[ancient crystal]

Yeah, I saw that after

[full lagoon]

Or perhaps no people at all because we seem to be very harmful

[sullen cairn]

it is not surprising we would find more rex fossils as this means more of them died. unlike the nanosaurus, which rarely died

[undone rapids]

Further Evidence that Denversaurus was Immortal

[silk radish]

99% of the Offspring likely was either Spawn Killed, Skewered by Flying Giraffe or Mauled by other small predators anyway

[paper parcel]

Bird people from dinosauroids

[silk radish]

Time and time again Dinosaurs are LUCKY they died before meeting us smh smh

[full lagoon]

If they'd become anything like us in terms of relationship with the rest of the world I wouldn't want them honestly

[undone rapids]

A bit sad we'll never get a good picture of what all the arboreal dinos were like

[ancient crystal]

I mean, yeah, that's what I just said.

The size difference in the prey of megalodon and GWS is almost as substantial as the size difference between the two sharks themselves.

Not to say the White Sharks came out of the miocene unscathed, being a single species genus scattered into several global sub populations that hardly interact is proof of that.

[paper parcel]

we must raid the secret time machines they have in government facilities to explore the mesozoic and upload it to the internet, thats how they made walking with dinosaurs.

[silk radish]

Anyways let's adress the Elephant in the room https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3c/7f/20/3c7f203e38f21554d5c7097df102bd9c.png

Cus HOW, WHEN, WHY or WHAT

[thorn grove]

maybe oxalaia did look like that 🤷

[full lagoon]

I'm particularly curious if some species with advanced dexterity and grip evolved

[silk radish]

Dino Chimps basically?

That would be a interesting thought

[full lagoon]

Pretty much I guess, in terms of the arm function

[lucid gyro]

if tree climbing dinos evolved i wonder how they would coexist with the sauropods

[silk radish]

This is still just the Troodon Propaganda all over again except it's somewhat WORSE

[paper parcel]

Spinosaurus was four legged too, I think, but yeah no chimp dinos would be terrifying, either that or lizard people are real and they live among us

[full lagoon]

Imagine some type of climbing leaf eaters that tried to protect their tree territories by making a fuss or smth

[undone rapids]

Tbh, feel like they'd be the biggest danger to the little guys that hide in forests due to their small size

[little mauve]

The Yixian gives us a decent glimpse at arboreality in dinosaurs and pterosaurs, Kupengopterus was described as having an opposable thumb https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(21)00369-9?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0960982221003699%3Fshowall%3Dtrue

[lucid gyro]

or they evolve to get certain bugs /nutrients in the bark that sauropods can’t access. idk what exactly i’m just guessing

[silk radish]

I feel like it sometimes DID walk on it's Knuckles cus like how does it even stand or walk forward without tripping cus of that Long aahh body

[ancient crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-no-thinking-nope-skinner-gif-16471648

[full lagoon]

They could very well be on any side of the dietary spectrum, and I could easily imagine climbing leaf eaters as well

[paper parcel]

Yeah no it certainly was four legged, how does something that big with that short of legs even walk on two of them?

[tough parcel]

Guys, do not troll the new kid, that's not nice

[silk radish]

Or well at least sometimes It could've, I personally think It could've been both

[full lagoon]

Spinosaurus most definitely looked atleast slightly different from what we have rn

[ancient crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-pinocchio-maybe-maybenot-gif-18872614

[tough parcel]

If we use Sereno's skeletal filled in with material, we have a finger bone that is incredibly gracile

An indication that putting ~4+ tons of weight on it would not work

[full lagoon]

True, but I'm assuming we are still missing part of the picture because we usually are.

[paper parcel]

Ok I know this isn't accurate in the slightest, but, maybe it could have been. Plus its cool

[full lagoon]

While I heavily doubt therizinosaurus was an insectivore like that, I wouldn't be too doubtful that something similar existed (it would probably need to be significantly smaller)

[silk radish]

In my personal Opinion there's a chance it switched from Bipedal to 4-legged, or if not then it likely used it's massive tail as a third limb for balancing itself on land

[paper parcel]

Technically it could both be a insectivore and herbivore, omnivorous dinos aren't impossible

[silk radish]

We already likely had some

Deinocheirus (If i didn't miss anything) likely ate both Fish and Acquatic plants

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[full lagoon]

Yeah but that image literally makes it a copy of an anteater, and I don't think that's particularly realistic for the species

[paper parcel]

this could also be a real pterosaur since pterosaurs are bad at fossilizing.

[silk radish]

Yesn't

Cause on a Spectrum we DO know Pterosaurs had a very long "Thumb" or finger in general similar to Bats today that support a Wing structure, And if I recall correctly Quetzalcoatlus likely had this too

[full lagoon]

This was posted the other day as well, I really hope this doesn't come to be.

[full lagoon]

Given the general shift of pterosaur varieties over time a fully terrestrial species isn't that implausible

[silk radish]

It works as a Spec Evo thing

It could be also couldn't

[wanton mist]

Neither do I, so care to do me a favor and spread this to other people and servers as well?

[full lagoon]

I'm pretty sure the discussion is in the context of a theoretical undiscovered pterosaurs, not that known ones were

[paper parcel]

Wish pterosaurs never went extinct especially, they are the most alien when it comes to the mesozoic for me atleast

[silk radish]

Ohhh

[full lagoon]

Unfortunately, I'm not in any other paleo/nature related servers.

[tough parcel]

I feel like a pterosaur becoming fully terrestrial is possible, but not plausible because if one did do so, it'd become mincemeat

Also you just gain more from being able to fly between feeding grounds and the like

Birds constantly evolve flightlessness because their methodology of flight is incredibly energy consuming

[full lagoon]

It would need to become fast and agile on land to survive, and would probably be pressured in a particular environment

[silk radish]

A land Pterosaur would be possible if there was a almost complete absence of any large Theropod or Carnivore In general in it's specific Area

Arguably this wouldn't be optimal considering if by some unfortunate event a Small theropod encountered this hypothetical Land-dwelling Pterosaur it's Eggs and Hatchlings would be picked off in record time and there would be almost NOTHING they could do about it since they're now stuck on the Ground

[paper parcel]

Hatzegopteryx!

[full lagoon]

The most similar pterosaur to what we have discussed by far, and it's differences between quetzalcoatlus show it

[tough parcel]

Like I'm sorry but while this is all we have, I doubt the massive muscle attachment on its arm is indicative of being terrestrial

[silk radish]

The Dodo Bird fate basically

[paper parcel]

ngl wonder how bad it would be if pterosaurs existed in the cenozoic, would they just outcompete everything or would they just, replace birds?

[full lagoon]

I think it's moreso the assumption that the bulkier frame suggests less time flying, alongside the insular region it's found near

[silk radish]

Yes and No

Later on the Ice Age would 100% wipe them out

[tough parcel]

That's not at all what happened with the dodo

The dodo went extinct due to a distinct lack of predator reaction (to humans), slow birthing rates (iirc one egg per season?) and an overwhelming overhunting

[full lagoon]

Aka environment changing so rapidly and violently you can't really blame them

[silk radish]

Yeah but at the same time It's eggs were targeted by Rats and basically they were getting Spawn Killed

[tough parcel]

That ties into "slow birthing rates"

[paper parcel]

Doubtful, they had fur of somesorts and the ice age wasn't just global ice

[tough parcel]

Flying would actually be incredibly favorable on an island species because you can jump between landmasses to forage

The ice age was not 100% cold and not 100% ice, having filaments has no bearing otherwise we would have no reptiles anywhere

[silk radish]

Not enough Fur to sustain and protect them from the sheer cold

[full lagoon]

That's true, and we honestly won't have any conclusion on the matter until we actually find sufficient material. As we've seen both island hoppers and island specialists are common.

[compact leaf]

considering the amount of mesozoic birds and the specialization of modern birds they definitely wouldn’t replace them

[silk radish]

We should also take In consideration that if Large Pterosaurs lived in the Cenozoic and further, with Man being a thing, Climate change wiping off most of the early Giants, Large Pterosaurs would suffer a lot for lack of large food sources.

While if we use small pterosaurs they could make it

[tough parcel]

As said before, outcompetition is a myth that was really rooted in the mammal-centric era of science

It doesn't happen IRL, it's called being beaten to death by climate change

[paper parcel]

ngl wonder what a mammoth hunting or megaherbivore hunting pterosaur would look like, Perhaps they could use sharpbeaks or hookedbeaks to cause massive bleeding

[tough parcel]

Non-existent 🥀 they are not built to tackle large prey and considering they had the same amount of time to evolve such as the dinosaurs, I doubt they would

[silk radish]

What about the whole Terror Bird and Sabertooth Tiger deal?

[full lagoon]

Untrue and biased for the same reasons

[runic heart]

Landmass stuff. The birds were already dying out also.

[paper parcel]

Given enough time they could get solid enough bones and some like the azdarchids were fast, plus im talking about the shock method or how carcharodontids hunted(sabers also hunted via just climbing on their prey and stabbing their spines)

[full lagoon]

Life On Our Planet really didn't help with these cruddy outdated views, man.

[tough parcel]

Phorusrhacids/terror birds died out due to their habitat becoming non-favorable (more wooded, less open) while the cats thrived because their habitat was expanding (less open, more wooded)

If anything, terror birds were keeping the cats down. Smilodon only got big after Titanis died out though this might also be attributed to preferred habitat expansion

[silk radish]

With how Well armed a Mammoth was I'd doubt they would risk trying to take down one of those UNLESS if in a life or death situation

[paper parcel]

Pack hunting, also like sabers.

[full lagoon]

It's less about a species literally being better than another and more so one being better suited for their environment or the change of such

[jagged trellis]

they co existed for about 3.8 my last i remember
major cooling happened after that most likely did the big birds in
and smaller ones did live on later
potentially to the holocene with 1

[silk radish]

Hyper-protective Herds are a thing tho

Even with hypothetical pack hunting it's just not worth the risk

[tough parcel]

I don't think that's how Smilodon/Homotherium hunted at all 😭 TMK they were only taking out young mammoths that they would dispatch via normal cat method

Also being hit as a pterosaur by (megafaunal prey) is probably a lot more devastating than being hit as a tyrannosaur by (megafaunal prey)

[full lagoon]

There's no such thing as a truly superior species or class despite some what might try to claim

[ancient crystal]

B-bu-b-but my mammalian cunning

[paper parcel]

Thats if the pterosaurs stay flying, I doubt if pterosaurs basically filled alot of the carnivore niches their bones would be as light, hatz also had denser bones

[tough parcel]

Again, considering they were happy to stay hunting at a certain size for the entirety of the Mesozoic, I doubt they'd do so

[silk radish]

Aren't some Racoons today Out-performing Racoon Dogs in the modern day? It's not 100% Outcompetition but like there ARE some species that have a better time surviving than Others

[paper parcel]

Thats because they had competition, if you remove their competiton they tend to get bigger and a lot more diverse.

[tough parcel]

The competition that would still exist if we assume megafaunal prey makes it past the KT?

[full lagoon]

Again that moreso plays into performance in certain environments and situations, and in the context of increased urbanization it's not very surprising

[paper parcel]

only pterosaurs, pterosaurs are very underrated

[light osprey]

Climate is not really a problem for Pterosaurs, they and Dinosaurs persisted just fine through cryospheric periods in the Mesozoic, as well as hothouse intervals.

[tough parcel]

Wasn't there a glacial maximum in the Jurassic far more than the glacial maximum of the ice age?

[full lagoon]

I'd be really surprised about that

[light osprey]

Idk about the Jurassic, in the Cretaceous seems like it happened at least twice

[ancient crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/you-to-me-gif-5464565068190392814

[silk radish]

Wasn't the Jurassic pushing some Deepfrying (literal) temperatures at that time?

[stiff osprey]

Unironically if theropods and land crocs went extinct mammals would become megafaunal specialists long before pterosaurs did

[ancient crystal]

Big paleo dictates mesozoic = hot cenozoic = cold, paleontology is all very black and white dontcha know

[paper parcel]

kinda imagine a flightless pterosaur evolved to hunt megafauna would look like this or similar, basically fast enough to not get hit but strong enough to do damage.

[silk radish]

Considering how VERY adaptable mammals are, It's likely

[full lagoon]

I think it's pretty well understood that the world was hotter back in the Mesozoic, but there's definitely overlap

[ancient crystal]

Mammalian adaptability will surely win the day

[silk radish]

Walmart Terror Bird basically

[light osprey]

No? It wasn’t the hadean, and global temperatures can very across 10 million year scales a lot, there is no universal ‘Mesozoic climate’

[paper parcel]

permian temperature

[full lagoon]

Fried 💀

[paper parcel]

ah yes supervolcanos and superdeserts my favorite, with acidic oceans and no ozone for radiation

[ancient crystal]

KFC

Kentucky Fried Ceratosaur

[silk radish]

How well would Gorgonopsids (both large like Inostrancevia and small) do In the modern day

Now that we're in the topic of the Permian Period

[light osprey]

There is an earliest Permian glaciation

[full lagoon]

The ceratosaur that died of thirst during the scorching drought be like:

[paper parcel]

people would probably try to get pet permian animals tbh, lystrosaurus and diictodon look cool af

[tough parcel]

Who named Diictodon and Dicynodon

We should destroy them

[halcyon cobalt]

all this to get mauled by a rat that grew slightly larger and more robust

[paper parcel]

Fluffy moschops and anteosaurus real?

[silk radish]

Ok this was funny

[silk radish]

More in specific how well would Gorgonopsids do In modern day Africa

[full lagoon]

Other than cetaceans, I don't even think any other warm-blooded vertebrae has completely lost its back limbs like this

[scenic flame]

due to how pterosaur anatomy works getting better at moving around on the ground means they would buff up their arm muscles, getting better at flying means they'd buff up those arm muscles.

The reason pterosaurs are just not at all comparable to birds in terms of flightlessness, birds need to buff up their legs to be better at moving on the ground, but that makes them dead weight and a hinderence to flight.

[tough parcel]

The skeleton implies it's more snake-like

[scenic flame]

Yes! And as we know this covered the equator in a 5 kilometer thick ice sheet!

[halcyon cobalt]

mammals are very good generalists while pterosaurs are pretty opposite

[paper parcel]

We all love dicynodonts here.

[full lagoon]

They can just typically retain proficiency in both thanks to what you explained is what you mean?

[silk radish]

Anyways, ohhh Saurophaganax Maximus my baby...Don't worry we still talk about you're Golden ages...

-sniff- I miss you...

[scenic flame]

Basically birds evolve flightlessness so much because they can't be good at both as it's mutually exclusive, pterosaurs are good at both however

[full lagoon]

Yeah I get what you mean, just making sure

[stiff osprey]

there's no reason for pterosaurs to lose flight because if they lose their arms they also lose land mobility

and the drawback of losing the small, easily tucked wing membrane is too big to be worth it

[scenic flame]

So for pterosaurs it's mutually inclusive, meaning flightlessness is much much less likely for them to ever have any evolutionary pressure to evolve.

[full lagoon]

Their quadrupedal flying/terrestrial build is super generalized and effective basically

[paper parcel]

Perfect, also, what caused the cryogenian period???

[full lagoon]

I'm not particularly well versed about history way back when, but I think it was the loss of most greenhouse gases

[scenic flame]

Greek space mirrors

[silk radish]

Let's not forget that when birds become flightless it's mostly either when there's more efficient ways to get food sources in a different enviroment (Penguins) or when there's a complete absence of Predators

[ancient crystal]

Well, you see, when a mobile game is played by a big youtuber once and gains enough popularity to continue development despite not having any direction, eventually very bored people will download it onto their phones and absentmindedly freeze the earth with giant snowballs or freeze rays

[scenic flame]

Yes but even so pterosaurs in the same scenario wouldn't have nearly as much pressure to gain flightlessness

Ment to reply to message above

[full lagoon]

Due to oxygen creation and more methane I think, probably caused by early photosynthesis?

[paper parcel]

Aliens le real?

[silk radish]

Crustacean build still Meta btw smh smh

[paper parcel]

So your telling me, C02 good, I agree we just need to stop killing the things that eat C02

[full lagoon]

Ik you are joking but the context was very very different back then

[paper parcel]

Tbh though I can't tell which is more terrifying, a desert with no life or a snowball with no life, pick your mass extinction

[silk radish]

Somehow i'd rather take the Desert but just barellyyy

[full lagoon]

Both are technically deserts in their own right

[paper parcel]

Nah deserts suck, literally most of the earth was still a desert after the permian extinction and into the triassic.

[full lagoon]

The tundras and ice sheets of the world are basically cold deserts

[silk radish]

Ok but at least Bugs and other things make it

What do you have in a super cold Tundra
Spoiler Alert: ||Nothing||

[ancient crystal]

Deserts are characterized either by a lack of annual precipitation or biomass, they aren't just dry sandy places

[paper parcel]

I hate sand, its rough and irritating, and very few things can grow in it. plus like, getting baked alive is kinda horrible

[balmy oyster]

I love sand, it’s warm and soft, and it’s great for making sandcastles

[ancient crystal]

I still have sand in my bag when me and a bunch of friends visited a beach on a very windy day.

I spent nearly two hours getting sand out of my eyes

[full lagoon]

I feel like I would prefer intense heart to intense cold, but it would depend a lot on the surrounding environment/organisms

[paper parcel]

I already have a problem with overheating sometimes but I rarely have a problem with the cold

[balmy oyster]

Intense heat sucks tbf, turning into a ice cube has you sort of feel warm and cozy right before death while you’re just in complete agony the whole time while boiling on the inside

[silk radish]

500, Yutyrannus /j

[full lagoon]

Most of the world is getting hotter so yeah

[tough parcel]

This is because humans are descendents of the Dimetrodon (mammal-like reptile!) and since we do not have our sail anymore, we cannot adapt to temperature...

[full lagoon]

Both are similarly agonizing at the extremes, and they feel the same atp

[paper parcel]

if I was immortal, and had a time machine I would go back and atleast lessen the permian extinction via moving the earth farther away for a bit, the permian extinction wiped out so many synapsids

[silk radish]

I am secretly a Dimetrodon Irl with Internet access he's right

[paper parcel]

Go back I want to be anteosaurus

[silk radish]

I'm in the Hollow Earth guys It's real

Pay me a visit if yall want it's comfy in here

Anyways back to topic can we agree Gorgonopsids are awesome

And have insane aura

[silk radish]

I wish Inostrancevia was still alive smh smh

[tender dove]

Did any Gorgonopsia inhabit dense forests?

[silk radish]

Idk maybe yes maybe no

[sullen swallow]

Hi chat, let's keep the topic on palaeontology please!

[full lagoon]

We need a general topic chat because it's literally so easy to diverge

[lofty furnace]

Is It possible to speculate some feathered dinosaurs had mane-like structures on their neck?

[stiff osprey]

Most likely

[paper parcel]

that would be cute

[lofty furnace]

True fr

[stiff osprey]

Psittacosaurus already has a mane of quills, it's just on the tail instead of the neck

[paper parcel]

ah yes, The cute dinosaur

[full lagoon]

I don't think these kinds of forests were particularly common. I also don't think any gorgonopsids like that are known.

[lofty furnace]

Wasn't that more like a Knucles/Sonic/ that one Guy from the Surfer penguins movie type of thing?

[stiff osprey]

I mean it's a row(s) of longer feathers running along the top of the spine

Sounds like a mane to me

[outer tusk]

another tarbo

[silk radish]

Arboreal Gorgonopsid spec evo would sound interesting

[paper parcel]

Tigers, leopards but gorgonopsid

[lofty furnace]

Idk bro, sounds more like a porcupine with an extremely receding hairline

[stiff osprey]

The humble horse's mane

[paper parcel]

edmontosaurus real?

[silk radish]

a Horse on Steroids

You could say

[fossil ingot]

Leg

[paper parcel]

I mean hadrosaurs did often try to outspeed or outherd their predators and they both have teeth mind for grinding plants

[outer tusk]

you sent the same image twice

[lofty furnace]

Horse hair was lowkey a massive downgrade, went from a cool badass mohawk to a boring straight blonde hair 🥀💔 still love them tho, horses are cool

[silk radish]

They all likely chose Flight over fight but when they get cornered?

Let's just say the predator won't have the best time of its life

[stiff osprey]

Put it next to Alberto for maximum family diversity

[paper parcel]

Yeah none of them had obvious defenses tbh, iguanadon isn't even a hadrosaur its a seperate group

[fossil ingot]

Alberto forgot itself

[silk radish]

Speaking of which in terms of succesful Dinosaurs Iguanodon is the first things that pops into my mind

Danger thumb that likely could've been used for defense, large size, Wide range of food cus of it being both a quadruped and bipedal

[paper parcel]

funny thumbspike herd lizard

[outer tusk]

NOOOOOOO alberto isn't taller!!!!!

[fossil ingot]

Gorgo and Alberto are Comically Leggy
That Tarbo is prob still 2x that Alberto's Weight LOL

[undone rapids]

The gorgo is just scaled on the 109 cm femur

[stiff osprey]

Amazing image

[undone rapids]

Alberto having a bigger arm is funny

[outer tusk]

we got a scale of all 3 current random's tarbo?

[lofty furnace]

I genuinely think that this whole "shantungosaurus solos every land carnivore to ever exist" typa video is just trying to be different and cooler and then just became a trend, there is like, one or two scenarios where a shantungosaurus could actually kill a Tyranossaurus in a direct bloodlust fight to death, not like he would be an easy prey, he would still make him run away even alone but like, they have nearly no effective weapons against large predators yet somehow everyone thinks they solo everything

[fossil ingot]

He only has PIN 551-1 and 107/2

[stiff osprey]

I didn't post the third one it was just 551 scaled down

[undone rapids]

Pull out random's old 552 from 2018. I have no pc rn or i would

[fossil ingot]

You posted a scaled down 551-1?
Also 11.4m 551-1 makes Torosus Holotype look...

[cloud breach]

Nah nah the third one is raptorex

[outer tusk]

yeah which was funny af

[silk radish]

If Nanotyrannus made it, we, yes WE are bringing back Troodon /j

[fossil ingot]

When did this Happen

[stiff osprey]

the day i GDIed it

[outer tusk]

wait Random you know of the multi button feature on DeviantArt that you can use when you want to have multi images in one post?

[fossil ingot]

You made that Edit?
Also did you saw that Bataar Production mentioned that one ZPAL was actually 10.5m with its 122cm Skull or smth

[outer tusk]

currently I think there's 11 usable tarbosaurus skeletals/edits for big 2026

[stiff osprey]

I did not know that

And the 122cm is probably for the wrong ZPAL, as the one i used definitely has a 113cm skull

[fossil ingot]

2.9m Hip Height is the same as your Dasp but its 70cm shorter is length
Whaos
Is Dasp Comically Long or smth

[undone rapids]

Or tarbo is just shorter for its length...

[outer tusk]

what's with Tarbosaurus using different specimen names like "ZPAL", "MPC", and "PIN" is it because some speicmen were poached?

[stiff osprey]

ZPAL has longer legs because it's immature, also tarb has a shorter neck

[fossil ingot]

This Zpal

[stiff osprey]

1/4 has over a dozen measurements all of which are consistent with 113cm and not 125cm, they probably got the wrong specimen number

Its femur is also much smaller than the femur of 107/2 which has a 122cm skull

[fossil ingot]

+10m Tarbo reproduces smh

[fossil ingot]

Idk
Pretty sure it has the same Tail length Proportions as his Dasp

[stiff osprey]

Also i don't think my dasp has enough cartilage

[outer tusk]

I know cartilage changes the leg lenght but is there a limit to it when it comes to animals like dinosaur, mainly theropods?

[fossil ingot]

Prob
So lets add 10cm and make it 3m

[undone rapids]

For weight bearing elements its usually 1.5-3% the length of the relevant elements iirc

[outer tusk]

look don't get me wrong I sound dumb af but I legit haven't/didn't or notice how much a cm can still change the outcome of a certain object or reference

[fossil ingot]

Idk
His First Spino was 2.6m but had to Much Cartilage
And Bro lost 10cm
Sue Gained 10cm with Cartilage
So I just 10cm cause idk

[outer tusk]

my thing is trying to undertsnad does "more" cartilage make a reference more accurate when it does apply or "needs" to be added

[stiff osprey]

My original cartilage didnt take into account that the animal standing up would compress the cartilage under its weight

Elephants for instance are always taller (palm to shoulder distance) when they lie down

[minor hollow]

this is a species of dinosaur that i belived was once living. it’s technically a bird from the Cretaceous, about the size of a crow and was an omnivore but mainly hunted, smaller prey and could fly, even though there’s no evidence of this dinosaur existing there could be something very similar since we’ve lost thousands of even millions of species due to erosion overtime. What do y’all think? I named it Gallasraptor. i’ve always had this weird connection to chickens, but predatory if that makes sense, this is what I come up with, most males had much longer head feathers used for a display, as well as his tail, these feathers would slowly rise up almost like a mini peacock or could even be used as intimidation, at the very end of these feathers on the head were spiral shaped, black, and gray, while underneath these patterns was yellow, and had a snood, and like turkeys today. It is more prominent on males () and fills with blood to change size and color—becoming bright red when excited or during courtship—and serves as a, mechanism to help regulate body

(galla- meaning Gallus gallus domesticus, and raptor)

[tender dove]

That's what I think too, because the Permian was dryer than the Carboniferous, and the Carboniferous is when we had the first forests

[ancient crystal]

Just saw another update on the colossal wolves, apparently they're being considered fully grown and are hunting together now.

And it really sucks because as much as I want to think this is really cool and enthusiastically follow the project, I just know its all a sham. Though it is good the wolves themselves seem healthy and happy.

[charred hearth]

how old are they?

[full lagoon]

It's a shame how this is the type of "conservation" that gets all the attention and support

[ancient crystal]

Well it isn't conservation at all tbf, theres no intention of releasing them to the wild

[ancient crystal]

Like a year and a half?

[full lagoon]

Yeah but they put their general mission under the guise of conservation and it's very depressing

[stiff osprey]

As said many times before, they have and are doing real conservation work

But the resurrection grift has done considerable damage to their initiative and credibility

[full lagoon]

In my eyes it's very insufficient but it could be my own bias.

[lime eagle]

So I have a question, I’m no paleontologist but carcarodons are sharks right? But we also have the carcarodontasorus(I probably spelled that wrong) but does it mean shark lizard?

[tough parcel]

Carcharocles is the shark but (donto) is tooth

So shark-toothed lizard

[lime eagle]

Oh ok thank you!

[stiff osprey]

Carchar also means jagged (the great white shark is carcharodon, jagged tooth)

But Carcharodontosaurus was specifically named after the shark

[wanton mist]

Understandable, thou still spread the word to your friends, because maybe they can help?

[full lagoon]

I'm not really sure what my friends can do, but I have told them.

[arctic crane]

Is this accurate? I didn't think thal was that big

[serene sedge]

Thal is big and could absolutely kill a human

[native kindle]

yeah its matching the size thal has in game now for the most part

[arctic crane]

That's awesome. I'm a little out of the loop on pterosaur stuff thal is thought to have been more of a terrestrial predator now right?

[stiff osprey]

Yeah with the short wings and ginormous crest it's not going to be the best flyer

It would not realistically see a human as prey, and you could pretty easily stop one if you had to, but like humans have died to chickens and geese so i can see a particularly dumb or unlucky person dying from a thal attack

[hazy basalt]

Humans actually bite harder than Thal right?

[stiff osprey]

We do

[arctic crane]

You sound suspiciously well informed on how to defend yourself from a pterosaur

[stiff osprey]

How do you think I got the skeleton in the picture you posted

[wanton mist]

If enough people learn about this, it might set in motion a huge number of people demanding that this place be saved.

[fossil ingot]

Will monster Thala be missed?
Absolutely no

[arctic crane]

I'm glad it finally got its posture and carpal tunnel fix. Looks like an actual animal not not a weird hunchback goblin

[ancient crystal]

Some people genuienly think the new one is worse

[stiff osprey]

Lmao i saw that on tiktok

[arctic crane]

We go through that every tlc. Personally I support all the new makeovers they've been great

[ancient crystal]

"Ew why is the new thal so skinny and small?!?"

[plush fossil]

Not even surprised

[stiff osprey]

"It's too skinny now" my brother in christ it can fly

[plush fossil]

I doubt they even payed attention to thal before the tlc, this tlc was sent from heaven for us thal lovers

[serene sedge]

It’s so much better

[ancient crystal]

I've long since lost faith in the average PoT player to be able to provide actual well meaning feedback to the game.

People will bombard the devs with insults over what may well be the single greatest jump in quality for a model in the game's history for no other reason I can fathom other than they just can't exist without being angry.

[queen oar]

tbh the feathering is pretty conservative.

[ancient crystal]

I wouldn't expect anything else in all honesty given how they've done the other pterosaurs

Not to mention feathering has never been PoT's strong suit when it comes to looking good.

[queen oar]

true.

[fossil ingot]

Yeah Feather's in POT aren't the best
Not the worst but you know

[outer tusk]

TLC Thalass is great for some cinematic silhouette

[queen oar]

tbh it is skinny

[sand thorn]

Alderon should fix the posture of Hatz after all that TLC they didn't bother 😂

[queen oar]

Looks like those fried chicken someone have burned once in their life.

[charred hearth]

whats the most accurate utahraptor model?

BoB
Pt
coolio's

or prehestoric kingdoms

[full lagoon]

All of them look fairly realistic anatomically

[craggy trench]

thats the old bob utah
there the new one

[charred hearth]

oh ty

what would PROBABLY be the most accurate amount of feathering?

[queen oar]

me when [dinosaur game] announces their new dromaeosaur...

It will be modelled by Coolio

Life: Ruined.

[charred hearth]

???

thoughts on dromeosaurids doing this? https://x.com/Jay72594128/status/2023928638568014283

The Kinged Of Jays 🍉🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️ (@Jay72594128...

I just found out that genets hitchhike/ride large animals
That’s my new favorite thing about them now

X · Feb 18, 2026, 1:12 AM

[thorn grove]

this is actually why they evolved their toe claws

[charred hearth]

edmusthosaurus after archeraptor turns it into a taxi

[thorn grove]

acheroraptor would unfortunately be torched by the musthful energy

[ancient crystal]

I wonder if anyone who actually believes in edmusthosaurus has reacted to that new paper

[charred hearth]

thats why it carries the ultimate counter weapon

[charred hearth]

how large was the edmonto btw?

[thorn grove]

clearly the authors are lying about it being an adult edmonto to propagate rex fanboy propaganda

[balmy oyster]

At least the papers provided entire edmonto caudal series which is rare for edmonto to get any sort of figured material

[charred hearth]

oh, btw, is it our first example of active rex predation in fossils?

[thorn grove]

The Edmontosaurus appears to be an early adult which would probably place it at ~3 tons

[charred hearth]

also, heres some good news https://vxtwitter.com/ScienceMagazine/status/2023770183806923160

Science Magazine (@ScienceMagazine)

China’s Yangtze River—in ecological decline for decades—is showing early signs of recovery following the introduction of a sweeping 10-year commercial fishing ban, researchers report in Science. https://scim.ag/4avTVVr

vxTwitter / fixvx · Feb 17, 2026, 2:43 PM

[thorn grove]

nobody cared when Wosik & Evans 2022 came out and showed that Edmontosaurus ontogeny didn't include them getting to 15 tons so my guess is they'll just ignore it

ironically around 2022 or so is probably when Edmusthosaurus hit its peak too

[balmy oyster]

Saurian gave us edmusthosaurus then died sometime after

[thorn grove]

truly a gift to the world

[full lagoon]

Thanks for sending this

[sullen cairn]

one has to wonder why they didnt just like measure the regular ol skull length instead of just quadrate height and extrapolating from there

[thorn grove]

clearly impossible with this extreme of damage

actually judging by the scale bar the length of the preserved section of the skull seems to be close to a meter already so the estimate of 79-89 cm would be quite the underestimate

weird

[sullen cairn]

tbf the estimate they give is using some premaxilla-halfway-through-quadrate measurement standard

[thorn grove]

ah ok

[sullen cairn]

the quadrates closest in size (NCSM 23119 and SM R4050) have ~1m total skull lengths give or take (from campione and evans)

so 1m total from the scale bar seems about right

[charred hearth]

who would you guys say has the worst fan base ( speficially in the paleontology community, not jurassic park, but including paleotok )

edmontosaurus fans
spinofans
tyrannosaurus fans

well, their not tyrannosaurus fans, their rex fans

[craggy trench]

i dont think thats a very productive convo
we dont wanna bash on people

[charred hearth]

252+ Atk Choice Band Strong Jaw Dracovish Fishious Rend (170 BP)

[foggy river]

vs max def slowbro

[sullen cairn]

why use this as a proxy for regular skull length entirely evades me

[thorn grove]

i would say edmontosaurus

it's like two orders of delusional instead of just one, delusional in thinking it's a shant-sized hadrosaur and also delusional in how strong they think a shant-sized hadrosaur would be

[foggy river]

I appreciate the effort to keep the topic paleontology related, but it does seem a bit unneccesarily inflammatory tbh
besides the answer is all of the above, liking things is for scrubs
joy illegal

[sullen cairn]

are regalis fans like a thing that exists

[charred hearth]

regalis and mcraeensis are the unloved siblings

[thorn grove]

tbf it is actually missing a good chunk off the end but idk if it's really enough to avoid just measuring the skull

I've always found it ironic that people only glaze annectens when regalis is like the same average size and lives with a Tyrannosaur like a quarter the size of rex

[charred hearth]

there was a 3rd edmonto that found freedom.

[sullen cairn]

annectens has got to have like the most scuffed resident tyrannosaur matchup ever yet the poor thing is help as the exemplar relatively giant hadrosaur

[charred hearth]

what do you think would happen if we found another hadrosaur in hell creek? ( hell creek lambeosaurid gang rise up )

[sullen cairn]

like legit any saurolophine beyond like maiasaura is better off

[thorn grove]

I think absolute size plays into it but even then

Shant

[charred hearth]

if it was smaller, would it be treated like fodder and used as a arguement as rex not going after annectens due to it existing?

[sullen cairn]

the online hadrosaur enthusiast should theoretically be incredibly inclined towards beckys giant being saurolophus 2 for the sake of establishing a 15m average hadrosaur in hell creek

[charred hearth]

" why would rex EVER go after the beast known as edmontosaurus when theres easier and weaker prey such as [hellcreek lambeosaurine]"

[balmy oyster]

Hell creek has three giant extreme herbivores and people chose the one not from the three of which its only defense is being really big very occasionally and herding together

[charred hearth]

does it even outrun rex

[balmy oyster]

I think tyranno is capable of outstamming it from what I read.

Also it can outswim it too. lol.

[thorn grove]

idk the actual ratios off the top of my head but going by vibes I've noticed Saurolophus looks like it has a fairly big head compared to other hadrosaurs

would that not reduce the estimated size a bit assuming im not just schizo

[sullen cairn]

i miss hadrosaur whale moose argument guy i wonder what he's up to nowadays

[charred hearth]

i just realized, does ANY of rex's common prey outrun it

[thorn grove]

Persons and Currie 2012 indicates Hadrosaurs have better musculature for long distance running

speed estimates tend to place edmonto as faster than rex but idk how accurate they are

[foggy river]

the average 'x fan' prolly just really likes the animal tbh, most ppl dont go to bat except for the extremists

also edmont was pmuch built for running so either it worked or they just had to outrun the slow one

[balmy oyster]

Running yes, but rex was also really good stamina wise so it could still keep track of one for miles

[bright veldt]

I do also want to note that we have no real idea on most extinct animals whether they were built for endurance or not. Cursorial adaptions can indicate efficient walking or fast running, but endurance has way more soft-tissue factors, like big lungs.

Lions are quite long-legged, with efficient walking and fast running, but they aren't exactly endurance hunters.

[charred hearth]

are wolves endurance hunters? or does more have to do with their pack behavior where one chases, and when it gets tired, another one starts chasing and its just a cycle until the prey is exhausted, or they catch it

[balmy oyster]

I think wolves/dogs are notably better for endurance hunting than felids could be, which is why felids are majorly ambush predators

[sullen cairn]

the toothrow's length 50% longer than osborni (57cm vs 38cm) and maxillary length ~12% longer than the giant anguwhatsit skulls so i dunno the exact number that crunches out but i think it generally falls within the range of the edmontosaurus-based estimates

[stiff osprey]

With hadrosaurs i'm pretty sure the size and placement of the 4th trocanther suggests they could outstamina a tyrannosaurid

which makes sense because they definitely aren't outsprinting a tyrannosaurid, so if they can't outstam it they're kinda just sitting ducks

[thorn grove]

not saying you're wrong but just to expand on what I was saying earlier:

Hadrosaurs (left) have a lower and larger fourth trochanter, this results in their muscles having more leverage when moving their legs resulting in less muscle fatigue from all forms of movement

[sullen cairn]

granted the edmontosaurus-based estimates produce an increasingly stupidly wide range of estimates the more specimens you look at because this is maxilla/toothrow scaling so i'd imagine more saurolophus specimen measurements would do the same

[thorn grove]

so basically it's just an unknown level of big

[stiff osprey]

what oogma said

As for the maximum speed estimates, they aren't actually faster than rex since they were done on a juvenile model, and of course juvenile rex is faster than the adult so adult edmonts would likely be slower than juvie edmonts too

[sullen cairn]

yeah its really big and trying to be any more precise than that will likely end in tears

[charred hearth]

is toro and trike also slower then rex?

[stiff osprey]

i would bloody hope so

[charred hearth]

so their defense was awareness, fighting and just praying?

[sullen cairn]

terrible terrible terrible

[compact leaf]

I mean if a triceratops or torosaurus detects it early the rex probably isn’t trying it, could it win the confrontation? sure maybe but why risk it

[stiff osprey]

"boy i wish there was a hell creek herbivore whose main defense was to fight tyrannosaurus"

the humble rex-sized slow moving animal with 4ft spears on its face:

[charred hearth]

is the answer denversaurus....

[sullen cairn]

the answer is gsp 6t not-denversaurs

[thorn grove]

I think of triceratops as similar to sloth bears, they kind of just stand their ground when a tiger comes by

[charred hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-gif-17261823111185059878

[bright veldt]

Asian Black Bears

[sullen cairn]

question is how did tyrannosaurus regina defend itself from tyrannosaurus rex

[stiff osprey]

also tbf while triceratops/toro are slower than rex, they are close enough in speed that a big headstart would allow them to get away

[sullen cairn]

crazy how every photograph of this thing looks like one of those questionably done medieval drawings

[hardy sentinel]

We don't know but we know Rex had 14 Reginas because he kept decapitating them

[stiff osprey]

which is certainly the preferred strategy for the trike/toro

[charred hearth]

i feel like denversaurus is the forgotten multi-ton animal of hell creek, like absolutely nobody cares about it ToT

[stiff osprey]

this is because calling denversaurus a multi ton animal is really stretching the definition of multi ton

[thorn grove]

i like gentuinely didn't know it existed until last year ngl

[charred hearth]

is multi ton when its 10 tons + or just above 1 ton

[thorn grove]

2 tons

multi means more than 1

[sullen cairn]

is multi-ton not just more than one ton

[stiff osprey]

multi ton is multiple tons which to me means a minimum of 2 tons

[charred hearth]

then what did you mean about your denversaurus statements?

[stiff osprey]

i do not think denver is over 2t

[charred hearth]

oh 🙁

[sullen cairn]

dempsey's is pretty consistently 2-3t iirc

[charred hearth]

denver lives in anky's basement

[craggy trench]

[stiff osprey]

how does dempsey not have a sue or giganotosaurus or spinosaurus but has a denversaurus of all things

[charred hearth]

favoritism

[thorn grove]

he's covering what the other artists don't have the courage to do

[sullen cairn]

i'd say he was in austin but you'd think he would've done lane then

[charred hearth]

you dont remember it from saurian?

[sullen cairn]

oh there was a digital recon already thats prolly why

[charred hearth]

cutie patootie

[thorn grove]

idk i went through a dino phase in like 2016 when i was playing the isle a lot and then i started a new dino phase in 2024 which i am still in

[charred hearth]

https://x.com/NatureUnedited/status/2023751837766000655 thoughts?

Nature Unedited (@NatureUnedited)

This anaconda lives isolated in a 100-meter-deep hole called “Buraco das Araras” (Macaw Hole) in Brazil. It was first spotted in 2017, and biologists still don’t know how it got there

▶ Play video

X · Feb 17, 2026, 1:30 PM

[stiff osprey]

Free my mans

[charred hearth]

well apparently its eating good on the birds that nest there

is this a good example of how new species / sub-species are devolped due to ecological isolation?

[fringe beacon]

Nah probably just a case of understanding how to survive

[winter marsh]

1.00000000001 tons

[balmy oyster]

1.99999999999991 tons

[fluid inlet]

Words came out from big Paul

[scenic sphinx]

Favorite book ever

[runic rover]

Any chances it could be something from the fabled Giganotosaurus paper that is supposedly meant to come? (I think it was him working on it, but I can't remember 🙁 )

[charred hearth]

" Denversaurus possesses a surprisingly powerful sense of smell, almost on par with that of Tyrannosaurus. This is used to seek out the herbivore's favoured food items, compensating for its relatively poor sight and hearing" - saurian

is this true?

[silk radish]

For some reason i had this one dream about a Spec Evo Spinosaurid that had a Skin membrane around it's whole arms, forming an umbrella in clear lakes luring the fish making them think it's some type of cover

Basically just like that one Stork I forgot the name of

[fluid inlet]

Don’t think it’s about the Giga , but it would be awesome.

[balmy oyster]

It’s gonna be schimitar trust

[plush fossil]

That would make an awesome creature design

[peak jetty]

I vaguely recall that it is Coria working on that, not Sereno.

[ionic linden]

interesting

[peak jetty]

But anyone who can do better than "vaguely recall" is welcome to correct me.

[balmy oyster]

I think it was coria, sereno’s got his spinosaur and noasaur stuff

[runic rover]

Ok thanks, idk why I hear sereno and I associate him with Giganotosaurus... (I checked mid-message) Ah, that's why. He was the one describing it!

[fluid inlet]

He’s apparently has Tyrannosaurus rex material as well so wouldn’t shock me for the confusion

[silk radish]

Found a T-Rex while scrolling through Pinterest (The name of the Artist behind it wasn't present unfortunately)

How accurate or believable is it?https://i.pinimg.com/1200x/a2/2b/c2/a22bc29cb487e5b87aac76df93553d4d.jpg

[undone rapids]

The sound plays a phone ringtone...
https://www.vxinstagram.com/stories/paulserenoofficial/3835023963391313326?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=em5vaGlzOGZ5MXZ3

[runic rover]

Aw that's cute of them

[ashen wedge]

So…. What did I miss?

[bright veldt]

It does seem to be a trend that ankylosaurians have fairly poor hearing and sight but great smell.

[frosty cedar]

Was about to post that.

Some people are saying it's going to be a new species of spinosaurus.

[snow python]

How long and heavy is the meraxes holotype?

[undone rapids]

Yup, it was mentioned in an earlier article : #paleontology message

[runic rover]

Maybe the famous long-legged spinosaur we herd about like 3-4 years ago?

[tough parcel]

"Long-legged" as if that's the only distinguishing feature about it 😭 it's not even correct

[runic rover]

Hey, I am waiting for more infos about it, how am I supposed to know anything if it was just presented as "long legged big crested spinosaurus paper in the work" only to never hear it ever again.

[tough parcel]

We all are but it being long-legged isn't even true!

All we know is that the abstract listed it as having slightly longer legs than the neotype with no indication as to how much!

[ancient crystal]

A new leak shows it being this much

[opaque kayak]

analogue horror dinosaur skeletal

When Dal sasso said Spinosaurus was 17 meters he meant height not length 🔥

[undone rapids]

"Portions of the femur and a complete tibia show that it may have had somewhat longer hindlimbs than S. aegypticus"

[tough parcel]

"Somewhat" doesn't equate to "long-legged"

It could still look short and dumb!!! Wait for the paper!!!!!!!!!!

[stiff osprey]

Clearly its hindlimbs were longer than the entire S.aegyptiacus

[full lagoon]

The other dinos honestly deserve the attention because they are just as cool

[ancient crystal]

What if the real spinosaurus limb proportions were the friends we made along the way?

[undone rapids]

Spinosaurus is the only spinosaurid with a tibia longer than its femur, this indicates that it was a very cursorial animal

[opaque kayak]

Asset 67

[ionic linden]

not accurate, head needs to be bigger /silly

[runic rover]

I need to ask you something, I remember hearing that apparently by not being able to support spinosaurus weight the "short legs" were hypotized to be a younger exemplar... Fact is, like most stuffs in paleontology I only have herd them once in my entire lifetime, and since it was years ago again, informations might have changed... What can you tell me about it?

I'm not trying to say jp3 spino was real, just genuinely working with the not too rich amount of infos I have on the topic and wanting to know more

[coral forge]

Asset 41

[stiff osprey]

The "legs are from a juvenile and the rest of the body was an adult" stems from JP3 spinosaur fan cope, nothing more

Or in a more useful answer, there are no duplicated bones in the quarry, which means it all comes from the same individual. Histology of the ribs and limbs shows that both body and legs are from a 17 year old subadult

[ancient crystal]

Paleontology nerfed my favorite unkillable bloodthirsty monster!!!

Paleontology ruins dinosaurs!

[tough parcel]

I forgot about the no duplication part

[coral forge]

I saw someone say that the only reason fadeno's gigankylosaurus isnt accurate is because paleontologists hate ankylosaurus and are all T. rex fanboys

[queen oar]

Spino doesn't have short legs

" Spino's short legs " still remains as the greatest example of optical illusion in paleo ever

[coral forge]

its legs are nearly 2x shorter compared to its body than other large theropods

[stiff osprey]

Children today were born in an age where Tyrannosaurus was unbelievably underrated, and they get upset when that turns out to not be true

In 20 years we're going to find like a 16 meter carcharodontosaurid and all the discord teens will be like "paleontologists all hate T.rex!!! When i was a kid it was the biggest theropod, now they keep naming bigger ones!!!"

[queen oar]

Yeah yeah, just erase the sail for a sec and you realize it's just the sail giving the impression that Spino has a much larger body, without the sail the legs fit typical theropod proportions, if anything it's similar to most Carnosaurs.

[ancient crystal]

Yeah, I don't think many people remember the early 2000s representation of T. rex especially in comparison to other large theropods.

I remember having a book that said T. rex was overestimated at like 6 tons and was actually 3.

I remember another that said spinosaurus was 4x the size of Tyrannosaurus.

[stiff osprey]

10-15 years ago Tyrannosaurus wasn't even in the top 5 largest theropods (according to popular online opinion), it was wild

[ancient crystal]

I would love to know more about how that happened, because as far as I know it was all on the public perception side of things

Horner is probably to blame...

[stiff osprey]

Published literature was to blame as well. Giganotosaurus was widely considered the largest theropod in papers since 1997, mainly due to the dentary, while pre-2014 Spino was 17 meters and most likely outweighed rex according to Dal Sasso et al 2005

[coral forge]

its hip height is 17% that of its total body compared to 30%+ in every other large non-spinosaur theropod

[queen oar]

Damn didn't follow my advice did you?

[coral forge]

what

[stiff osprey]

Sereno's 1996 carchar paper also stated it was similar in size to Giga (holotype), which prob led people to think it was bigger than rex (other than the fact Carch is a genuinely gigantic skull and can be scaled to longer than rex)

[queen oar]

Erase the sail for a second.

[ancient crystal]

Why would erase the sail, its not like its not part of the body

[coral forge]

now what

[craggy trench]

spino built like a sausage

[queen oar]

There you go.

[ancient crystal]

Are we pretending the legs exist somehow independently of the structure that makes up the largest proportion of spinosaurus's torso?

[runic rover]

Ah. Thank you for the clarification!

[craggy trench]

i mean they are still short

its not to be like hahha L bozo spino short
just how the animal is

[ancient crystal]

Hahha L bozo spino short

[craggy trench]

he just trying to reach the top shelf dont bully him

[ancient crystal]

My university is having a fossil sale today that they didn't advertise and I'm on the other end of the damned state

[craggy trench]

nooooo

[undone rapids]

Not really, spino neotype(11 meters ish) has a femur length the same as that of a 5 meter Utahraptor.

For its body length, it very much is short legged

[queen oar]

What would be the best skeletal reference for the Neotype? Just for a sec

[ancient crystal]

Probably the neotype idk

[undone rapids]

I don't think random's has a scale bar for neotype size, dan folkes spino does though

[queen oar]

Ew

[undone rapids]

You can take random's spino and downsize it by 75.30864198 % to get the neotype size. Just from scaling the femurs

[queen oar]

No, I don't think I'll do that

[tough parcel]

It's a large difference

[ancient crystal]

HOW DARE THEY DO THIS TO ME

[craggy trench]

yoooo

maybe you can do black market deals

[ancient crystal]

I'm already offering double the price for someone to hold onto something

[craggy trench]

[queen oar]

Also, it's true.

[winter marsh]

Imagine being under 12 ft looolll shortie ahhh

[young zodiac]

Unsure of where I’d post this here but I’m trying to spread the word on this as much as possible. Please sign the petition and share this where you can, DO NOT LET THESE ASSHOLES OUR NATURAL HISTORY FOR AI GARBAGE https://x.com/codyfandom_/status/2023268193251307835?s=46

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PLEASE SIGN AND SHARE!

Dinosaur Valley State Park in Glen Rose, Tx is in danger!!! Please help spread the word.

They want to install a 2600 ACRE data center there that will destroy the natural resources.

X · Feb 16, 2026, 5:28 AM

[paper parcel]

L four legged goose looking lizard

[ancient crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-gif-17217568857505825610

[runic rover]

I don't have X, send me any link where to petition.

[young zodiac]

https://www.sierraclub.org/texas/greater-fort-worth/action-alert

[fluid inlet]

What was the Paul Serrano news ?

[stiff osprey]

Tomorrow

[ancient crystal]

The new spinosaur material was blown up by the RAF in a raid

[ionic crescent]

What is the Paul Sereno news?

[craggy trench]

Who is the Paul Sereno news?

[stiff osprey]

Why is the Paul Sereno news?

[craggy trench]

its gonna be a Tyrannosaurus was found in the kem kem beds
or Bahariya

either works
trust

[runic heart]

Who’s Paul Sereno?

[balmy oyster]

you

[runic rover]

The real Paul sereno were the friends we made along the way

[ancient crystal]

The real Paul Sereno was the fossils we hoarded and never described along the way

[tough parcel]

Don't worry guys, I will save them

[ashen wedge]

No!!!! I thought we didn’t have this one again

[craggy trench]

Don’t worry quad spino isn’t real

[full lagoon]

I don't care what it looks like as long as we learn more

[tough parcel]

Quad Spino is very much not real and I don't know why Apostle keeps insisting it is

[full lagoon]

It would be really interesting to find a quadrupedal theropod though

[charred hearth]

how good of eyesight would ceratopsians need? would it be their most important sense?

[paper parcel]

Quad spino is based

[ancient crystal]

I did the thing

[peak jetty]

How much was it?

[queen oar]

Would you had Infinite Tyrannosaurus but no Spinosauruses or Infinite Spinosaurus but no Spinosauruses?

[craggy trench]

Heheh

[ancient crystal]

Only $30, and that was with paying double for someone to hold onto it before I could pick it up

[peak jetty]

That sounds like such a bargain wow

[queen oar]

They made a Dromaeosaur skeleton made of Glass just now.

[ancient crystal]

There was a bison pubis but I would've had to pay $320 so

[tough parcel]

You could name a new specie off that

[peak jetty]

I assumed like 50-100, easily.

[queen oar]

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[ancient crystal]

There were also mosasaur verts, a bunch of fish fossils, used to be some trilobites and a bunch of plant fossils

[tough parcel]

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