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To be fair, this is only true if the footprints are close to eachother, which implies a walking gait anyway and not a running one. If the footprints are a massive distance apart then the only plausible explanation is that the animal was running fast
Or flying
acro could fly confirmed
truly these magnificent creatures
a Six ton Dinosaur leaping on a sauropod is so scary he must been enraged
He also must have been a transdimensional entity because he isn’t able to do that
Or it just didn't happen...like we've been saying
@stiff osprey I feel that is diminished when you get into the large body sizes
he could do it if he used his wings to balance smh the logic is right there
The acro that made the tracks definitely wasn't full sized, if it did jump it would be more like a 2-3 ton animal jumping rather than 6
that or maybe he got an alley oop from a second acro wearing snow shoes
This is true but as it stands we don't have running tracks from... any large dinosaur that I know of
Maybe it was a very big acro, but it was just tip toeing to sneak up on the sauropod, which made smaller tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGXtsAwgz7Y i think it was here but i will look lakter acro is definately mentioned there @stiff osprey at 45:00
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Giganotosaurus is often considered the biggest carnivore the world has ever seen, but the reality is that it has some close relatives that may be even larger! Let's take a look at Giganotosaurus and its closest relatives in the ...
The hopping megafauna
45:20 it is
its in the video so it has to be true then, damn
Jarvis, bring up Lancian's jumping Mamenchisaurus and Random's flying Spinosaurus art
Technically speaking our version of tip toe is just how theropods walked normally so it would have to be tip—tip toeing, like a horse
it was walking just on it claws,very sneaky
ballerina acro
That's the one
tag urself im C1F
Wasn't the trackway broken?
Or did it just end? I swear I recall some part of it was damaged or destroyed
Yeah, this was a musical section of a disney movie
maybe I'm dumb but could the missing trackway have simply been there
I mean is that the location of the missing track
Idk where in the sequence!
Yeah ok they explain why it wasn't a jump here
''Bird concluded-and the late paleoartist David Thomas concurred-that at this point in the trackway the theropod had actually attacked the sauropod, only to be dragged off its feet by the forward motion of the much bigger herbivore. As the meat-eater took an involuntary forward hop, its left foot was unable to touch the ground, and so print C1K was never made. Although we think it quite possible that the theropod was indeed closely following the sauropod, we are skeptical that Bird’s putative hop actually occurred. Had the carnivore been pulled off its feet after partly impressing right print C1J, to come down on the same right foot to make print C1L, we would expect footprint C1L to be very unusual. There might be a spectacular skid mark as the theropod’s right foot contacted the substrate as it swung forward. Given the weight of the theropod (Bates et al., 2009b), print C1L would likely have been particularly deep, probably passing completely through the Main Tracklayer as many of the sauropod footprints do. Unfortunately, there seems to be nothing unusual about footprint C1L.''
thats so cool we get a jumping acrocantho from Alderon
Did you read anything
I mean if Kaiwhekea can launch itself a mile in the air and Tylo can crawl on land i don't see why they can't make acro jump
what you say to the paleontologist in the video says that the acro leaped?
is it possible some dinosaurs had more then 1 stomach?
execution
Paleontologists can be wrong
In fact some of them have made being wrong their entire public personality
but who are you saying he wrong do we know the 100% truth?
cough jack horner
the paleontologists who have studied the prints in person don't think it leaped (the quote i posted is from page 24 of this paper)
Jack horner was in the epstein files btw
or well page 24 of the pdf it's like page 60 something of the paper
so we have paleontologist vs paleontologist @ancient crystal also told me Megalodon didnt coexist with Great white shark thoo
I literally did not say that lmao
Wasn't jack horner in that one shrek movie?
Puss in boots 2: the last wish
I always forget what the youngest megalodon record is
according to wikipedia it's 3.6 mya while great white sharks appear 5.3 mya, so yeah they coexisted for about 1.5-2 million years
Yeah, Jack Horner is also a nursery rhyme character
Which you could've seen if the mods didn't delete the gif I sent
Yea we know
Megalodon and Great white existed at the same time
This screenshot disproves what you tried to say I said lmao 
he changed the post
There was no "edited" in the img
Ok, you're getting really damn annoying. Don't try and paint me as some liar because I don't think acro was jumping on sauropods.
If you knew what she paints me as lmao
This mean acro jump on sauropod?? You are not 10000% right therefore you are wrong im rigjt
he deleted it i couldnt find he probably just googled it after i was saying great white probably extinct megalodon or was another reason for him to extinct
Just drop it tbh, it almost seems like you’re tryna instigate arguments
The message had no Edited in it, that was the original mssg, Venator didnt change anything
it was deleted entirely
What's the largest dinosaur you think could jump to any degree?
i think they are ragebaiting considering they have multiple times claimed people are saying the opposite of what they said
I didn't delete anything? Why are you being this-
You know what, never mind @tight kettle if mods are going to delete choice parts of this conversation can something be done about this?
Older sources of media would occasionally mention Allosaurus but that too seems unlikely
They call me something not very nice whenever we have an argument, idk how they arent banned because it aint a "lightly" thing lol
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Was it Spino the biggest carnivore theropod we know so far? Not a crazy difference, but still.
Will do then 
Deleted messages can still be seen in server logs I'm pretty sure
T rex is heavier :))
Referring to height to be more cocrete.
Yep i just thought i needed to provide sc of the evidence, but if logs are there i will file the report
Yes t rex was also higher from head to spino cant reach him with its claws, Spino was the longest theropod yes
I think that Tyrannosaurus might also be taller than spino on average now? But there's definitely overlap
i mean the largest stuff that can jump today are in the 4 ton zone so logically that area
outside of length is spinosaurus even really in the running for largest theropod anymore
Interesting, so I see why allosaurs could be thought to do so
could maip jump?
i think a Python is also longer then a Anaconda but not as heavy or big
Honestly I think @thorn grove has it, the print is missing because it just isn't in the slab that any of the museums collected
I am the smartest person ever
tallest theropod by hip height…still gets you rex.
technical tallest theropod I believe is probably theri?
I honestly don't think than an adult Acro who is heavier than an elephant would be able to jump, but if there is something that I know is that nature can make possible what we sometimes look impossible
Nature is amazin he reigned 28 million years for a reason
If you assume the missing print was anywhere else it would mean the theropod has two right feet or two left feet
but only temporarily as it then regains its normal feet later
seeing its abit to hard full muscle power on it and to judge fully, could be abit higher
though id still stick to the 4 ton zone given abit hard to test jumping specifically iirc
I was talking only about terrestrial/semiaquatic carnivores anyways.
Then it’s rex
If rex and spino look up they'd be taller at the head. Actually maybe not rex
Is that how theri looks next to rex oh my god
small rex here
that's sue isn't it
Yeah
Don't make me check theri a 3rd time, it should be correct
I'm used to seeing it next to tarbo where it at least looks like it has a chance but here it's just completely mogged
tyrannus magnus
Its Sue
Ignore her
Yes isnt sue kinda smole
Tarbo still peaker
I only have Tarbo next to Deinoc smh
ignore yourself.
Mongolia
i see why people dislike tall tarbo now it's so over for therizinosaurus
I nean
Cmon
"Isn't sue kinda small"

Not to worry, it’s clever maniraptoran brain and sharp claws will tip the scales
It tickles the tarbo to death
Nah its Peak
Oh I saw your tarbo skeletal on the PK science chat
(Please make an edit of it with the same posture as Hartman's new velociraptor and play it entirely straight, I think they'd all collectively lose their minds)
i find it really funny when people use random anime characters for scale next to dinosaurs, i love it
I missed it!!!
Bro was smited 
pot mods censored the name of my image editing software it's so over for me
That message dissapeared faster than my dream of being paleontologist.
Though April 1st skeletal does have some potential
big bertha

I find that the | character is a great way to get around the censor
I still haven't deleted g imp, I downloaded it.... tried to use it by vibes and no turtorial, then went back to paint.net
I still can't over come how Comically Small Tarbosaurus arms are lmao
what i was trying to say is that unfortunately G|MP kills the quality of an image whenever you rotate it. if i tilted the spine to be vertical i'd have to draw it all over again
Imagine t rex had lips this destroys the myth!
this is unsuccessful ragebait
this is just sad now
it's true. t.rex also looked like an anvil fell on its head when it was alive
Show me a croc with lipps bruh
please get better ragebait
this has been done to death
Dang
I swear that chat gets closer to being shut down by the mods over there everytime theres new drama to morally grandstand about.
you didnt wait my smoking gun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g5XG5o2CtI
After a recent paper published in the journal Science argued that Tyrannosaurs and other large theropods had lips, much of the paleontological community has changed their views on the topic. This made headlines all over the world, with a big emphasis being placed on how incorrect this makes nearly every artist rendition of T-rex. While the autho...
Ahh yes
This Totally Realianle video
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Citrolodon
could this be the meteor that killed the dinosaur? maybe we'll never know.
i actually really like this guy
thats a Gator 😄
t rex powerscaling gonna love this one
I feel your ragebait needs to be better
his teeth are too long for lips he would bite his lipps especially biting an Anky
???
how is it ragebait when we dont know we just assume.
Idk why using an Skull where you can clearly see it has a brokek Jaw
Its a Crocodile, here's Kaprosuchus which had its picture taken by a time traveller with an x-ray camera
Guys, they're ragebaiting, they have no intention of actually discussing anything with you
the faked sues skull when recontruct her they do that with all skelettons you probably didnt even eat a real banana other then synthetic stuff
I mean
Its Clearly Rage Bait so like
Ok the Paleo chat is just ragebaiting chat i guess.
I mean
Look at Poor Sue
Ignore "Juvie Rex"
consequence of the mighty thescelosaurus
right down nanotyrannoss spotted
imagine the pow of that girl
Sue just looked like that. Individual variation
The 3.8t Tarbo...
Or was it like 4.1t
Yeah
9.7m and 3.8t PIN 551-1
Bro gained 70cm and about 3.1t lol
They've latched onto the woman looking pregnant for some reason
Every theropod wished it had that kind of variation...
I really like this one something about it is just so nice
Prob its Big Ah Head
don't forget
please eat my baby
The man is very fascinated by its tail
im serious why spino dont have lips in path?
I think he's yelling at the woman to stop handing their kids over to carnivorous dinosaurs
Stylistic choice I believe
You can ask the same thing about Sucho, Hatz, Achillo, etch. The game does aim for accuracy but takes liberties with certain designs
yea makes sense also for t rex since he could constantly regrow his teeth
For Spino not having lips can somewhat make sense
Sucho prob had more chances of lips
cause water protection i guess
Achillo's Design isn't even bad and tmk its proportions aren't bad either
Is just that is Oversized as Fk
The Mohawk is Stylized but tbh its cool
i like achillo, im just not a fan of the flesh around its eyes that much
is t rex venomous rotten mouth also debunked? i really hate that mohawk tbh but i go with it because its just the best sub
Like its pretty nice Proportions wise
It even a more upright posture like current Utah does seemingly have
I mean
Any Carnivore eating a Corpse prob had a bad breath and bite
But yeah prob it is
all carnivores have bacteria in their mouths, but they don't use them to poison prey (otherwise they would just poison the carnivore first)
Our mouths are probably dirtier
100% from what we eat today xD
Not to mention dental arrangement and the fact that we don't shed teeth
yes and sugar etc
croc aesthetic?
isn’t there a theory that theropod dinosaurs may not of possessed lips due to a teeth rotation system that sharks have? and isn’t there potential evidence for this in fossils we have
Yes and no
Lots of animals shed teeth constantly and have lips, not shedding teeth is a mammal-specific trait
This is the prostate exam, hope you studied for it Tarbosaurus
Offer the Tarbo or Raptor Rex a fresh snack out of the womb
this thing is so stupid
As far as I'm aware, the way in which theropods replaced teeth is not at all akin to the system sharks possess
What’s the verdict with Raptor Rex?
Baba of another mother
Which baby mama?
Raptorex mother
So is it Tarbo?
No
Maybe
idk how either works tbh i’m just makin connections. but i didn’t know it was more common than i thought
Unfortunately I can't find any good diagrams or the like for crocodillian tooth replacement which is what I imagine dinosaur tooth replacement would be more similar to.
This is how sharks do it though. Literally a conveyor belt of new developing teeth replacing older functional teeth
with most reptiles including carnivorous dinosaurs, new teeth grow in from the back of the tooth socket, and the old tooth is gradually absorbed while the new tooth grows in until the old tooth fully loses its root and falls off
Does this ability degrade over time? I could swear I've seen images of particularly old crocodillians with markedly less teeth than healthy adults
Supposedly yes, it gets slower with age, but i've not seen an academic source for that
Well, if my sandbar tooth morphometrics research doesn't pan out I guess I have a backup now lol
We should use genetic modification to put that into people tbh
Yes, we need dinosaur people irl
You had the perfect opportunity to respond with the gif of skinner saying yes and you dropped the ball
I'm disappointed smh my head
Too tired, megapacking has gotten out of hand, people are now needing even more apexes for sub apexes
Its not even realistic either, like they will literally form the avengers team to just kill my acro.
In the future, they will make a headset that gives you the iq of a dino and gives you a first person view, basically directly putting your soul in a virtual dino to do dino stuff, then when you die you leave and your iq is normal
Lol
Gaming and pot will become so advanced that you won't just be playing the dinos, you become the Dinos, even feeling pain and other stuff
Basically you are imagining that people should be FORCED to play realistically?
Would be pretty balanced lol, plus, being a dino irl without having to be one permanently would be peak
Literally dinosaur 1984
Dinosaur matrix, where people would become so addicted to pot they eventually just put their brain in pot to become dinos forever
I feel like that wouldn't be remotely possible without long term mental shifts tho (the rewiring your brain thing)
Probably wouldn't feel good leaving if it did work and would also be highly addictive, no taxes, head empty, belly full of sauropod.
personally I'm not going to play a game if dying leads to me actually feeling my body ripped apart by a hundred steak knives 
Is that really worse then the mental pain of a office job?
Unequivocally
Its that one VR on Rick and Morty but dino version
How is this conversation allowed to go on this long but the gif "Jack Horner Jumpscare" gets deleted by mods immediately after I send it
Technically paleo, and if the pot/other dino game devs had the tech they would 100 percent put it in
Because they dont know the definition of "fun"
just wondering, do you all think hatzegopteryx has a tall skinny neck or a shorter bulky neck? it looks like no one can pick just one
Short
the known and referred material are gray btw
just saying because some paleoart makes it look like this
I mean no paleoart is more "correct" since we only have one possible referred neck vert
the thing i posted is a more recent work by that same artist
just kind of weird lol
also azhdarchid head crest shapes are just kind of weird them selfs
Would be "horrifying" to get eaten whole by one irl
everyone draws then differently because there are a whole 2 azhdarchids with complete skulls (zhejiangopterus and quetzalcoatlus)
we have no idea what crests the rest of them may have had
ermm you mean "quetzalocoatlus" lawsoni!!!
yes and by "complete" i also mean composite of 3 individuals
Sending you to get eaten whole by quetz
srry game crashed and restarted my computer
prob would choke before shallowing
Sadge, would definitely be cool getting eaten by one though
also what are the chances that azhdarchids had neck pouches like pelicans?
Low
probably low as they don't feed like pelicans do, but many birds have flexible throat pouches
Interesting 
i mean pelicans dont Only eat fish they also eat some baby animals so just saying
cormorants have normal looking necks most of the time but they expand to c o n s u m e fish
i have a mouth and i must feed
though keep in mind azhdarchids would not eat prey this size because their stomachs are 1/10th the size of a cormorant's in proportion to the mouth
@stiff osprey is it true that you don't like Argentinosaurus?
no, it's one of my favorite sauropods (not top 3 but up there)
Reality is often disappointing
if i had to guess one of your favorites i would have to go with sauroposeidon
pretty sure they can't really expand their organs to fit large prey either, right?
why would they
they could probably swallow something the size of idk, a medium sized dog, or a small child. definitely not an adult human
At least not to the degree most people imagine. Since, organs still have some elasticity
bro REALLY wants to be inside a pterosaur
ok bro just revive it your self aready
FreakyPterosaurFan. Not unexpected.
plus who said the would eat you whole, you would probably die from bleeding or bludgeoning first
just think about a 7 or 8 foot beak going right into your lungs
Small problem
This would be very very bad for the body and brain
Especially the pain part
b-but dino
they should make that instead because it looks funny
Yeah, anything to simulate being a dino irl and escape the pain of being sentient
If its possible
Technology does have limitations
And the brain is very complex
But, machine god
No
b-but i wanna be a pea brain stegosaurus and walk off a cliff
Imagine Dinosaur Prosthetics.
Stop this stego slander 
Screw that, put a person into a machine and put their brain in a dinosaur permanently, erase humanity from the picture
@hallow spear
Yeahhh no
That would ruin earth more
yeah no
Yes
this is just the plot of The Isle
Bro doesn't want to be a Animal metaphorically, they want it " Literally "
The isle has lore?
also its not that the stego is dumb its just its brain size, it still had every instinct needed to survive
When it updates.
What annoys me si that people don’t understand how lucky we are to be here
Like at one point every cell except one species likely died off
Are you saying your going to be able to put your consciousness in the isle or pot and have the iq of a dino next update? Wild
some guy killed 5 kids on a dinosaur island and their souls possessed the dinosaurs and now they attack night guards
one of the many lore concepts that went nowhere is the dinosaur players were human consciences transplanted into dinosaur bodies for... some reason
Not gonna lie, being a dinosaur sounds pretty peak and full of meaning
erm, actually! ☝️ 🤓
It is said that the brain size of Stegosaurus might be entirely a misconception or misunderstanding of the very nature of the skull we have preserved, as it is said the skull is likely crushed and it has likely affected the dimensions and proportions of the braincase as well.
slaps
depends on what " Dinosaur " we would be talking about.
chicken on a factory farm
yup. See? Because that wouldn't be very fun!
pov : your a baby sauropod and the second you hatch you die from a rock falling on your head
Go back, go back further, perfection
It would be awesome to be Velociraptor, I think. Like, Literally Velociraptor. Hunt prey that could be two or three times your size, then die by some sandstorm and get your hunt preserved for the rest of history.
Nah im going full mega duck mode
You want to be " Da Biggest Bird "
problem 1 :
Evolve then
Problem is that,you would like to be more specific on that, because otherwise you might end up with:
is it true Seaworld is one of the rehabilitation facility’s and rescue facility’s in the world? like, if i send a injured mosasaurid there would it be good hands
No thats a demon duck
ive been thinking of going to florda during the summer to see the natural history muesum
Apparently they've ceased all of their shows and Orca facilities in 2016, from what I've heard just today. Sooooo... Yeah.
Hello
Nah I want to be anurognathus or some other pterosaur, acrocanthosaurus is also good(plus alamosaurus)
idk, i heard that majority of blackfish was misinformation that people blindly believed just because it was a doc and i dont know if thats true or not
Terror birds were pretty peak though before they got smited.
Demon ducks better
Not a Phorusrhachid.
terror birds getting smited by smilodon
POV: the bald monkeys start throwing sharp sticks
Shark sticks, I just imagine some shark teeth stuck on a club
or it's a roasted shark on a stick.
τ-τ
Shark doesn't even taste good though
idk, because I never had it. But true.
Depends on the shark
Basking taste horrible apparently
Carpet shark tastes ok
Imagine asking to be a elephant and you get this
I can name a worse thing
everytime i see that hatz it makes me want to cry...
Bro wants to be a sauropod so bad
Scelrotic quetzalcoatlus is not real:
Scelrotic quetzalcoatlus:
But, I like muscular hatz 😢
i can do you one better.
You may not like it, but this is the ideal male shape
It's funny since this thing probably weighs a unreal amount
damn save some for the rest of us
no wonder every dino went extinct, this guy ate everything then left the earth
Either rivals jonkeria or the largest paleozoic animal land animal: (ps I tought there was a even larger one)
bro probably was the meteor that hit earth
eerrmmmm actualllyyy
He stole their wives with his beefy build
ribs too wide but even so 💀
how plausible is the interpretation of coty being semi aquatic?
cotylorhynchus was from the permian🤓 !
take just the ribs and it looks like a damn turtle shell
he couldnt be contained to the permian
I mean yeah, but cotylorhynchus is actually the true form of masculinity in our hearts and souls, he was too pure for this world and no one had the same idea of him
Oh man I found it,...
The devourer of worlds
They need to add coty to pot and make him argent sized
Coty is so big, his internal anatomy is a mini map you have to escape if you get eaten
The great coty had to leave the earth for life to start and shed a tear never to see it again, thus starting the Cambrian explosion
minimum sized juvenile btw
You seem to really want to be eaten by an extinct reptile
i find that concerning
There are certain videos about this very topic
Don't we all?
No, it is genuinely not any good. Especially the fins which make up a good majority of the shark flesh people eat.
Literally just cartilage. No taste, hardly any nutritious value. All this depraved wanton slaughter, all for the sake of an exotic status symbol that amounts to a watery sad soup that only a total loser would eat today.
Why would anyone not eat beef or scallops? Those are the best sources of food, not some half baked soup
Dumb question time, what dino or prehistoric animal that is Not a human relative would be the best at speaking latin/casting spells
Absolutely none of them
I’d like to think raptors or dromeasaursids
Arthur morgan
is he suffocating it or is it okay
Leaked new season of river monsters???
I imagine it’s sort of like a labyrinth fish where it’s not comfortable but its not immediate death in 5 minutes
i have a better question.
We have bigger fish to catch....
we have a bigger fish to fry
lets adress the elephant seal in the pool :/
Crazy
ok guys dont freak out when i say this but...
would Eurypterids go well with melted butter
just asking, how strong would the T-Rexes legs to jump atleast 10 to 15 feet in the the air, like this old paleoart
iirc this is daspletosaurus
nvm dryptosaurus
Either daspleto or yuty, but prolly daspleto
going off other old tyrannosaurus rex depictions I think it is a T-Rex also because of the slight kangaroo stance
It's dasp
let me look up the year the art was made
I checked it's dryptosaurus
We all wrong 🥀
still gonna check to feel smarter
the piece is titled Leaping Laelaps by Charles Knight, which was an old name for Dryptosaurus
Ahhahahah I'm a genius 
slaps
For drypt i wouldn't doubt it was able to jump like that, but an adult T.rex is definitely breaking every bone in its legs doing that
I also just realized it has 5 fingers
and they're way too small, because the hand claw of drypt was assumed to be on the foot at the time
errmmm actually! its a laelaps
same same nerd
its actually a displacosaurus, its teleports on bite prey 100 meters upwards to kill them but can only teleport things that can fit in its jaws
Well the bones are one problem but muscles, skin, tendons and joints would be destroyed on impact
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Old paleoart goes brrr
Also its a dryptosaurus which were way smaller
Feel like I've seen this name before
Dryptosaurus has like 2 mods in PoT
Well yes T.rex could jump zero feet
But for some very funny reason no community server I want to play in wants them :/
PTSR has the KTO drypto
The thing about drypto is that it isnt in mpst realism servers due to it having that classic trope of mid tier pack hunter bleeder (it is more of a glass cannon but still fits that description). Meaning it is basically a Conc but touched up a little. Its also very outdated (this can be said about both Dryptos since theyre very similar)
Drypto discrimination
I honestly love the KTO one, its fast, agile and fairly strong for its size in exchange for being made of wet paper. Also sounds creepy as hell
KTO is good at making mods
Assassin or Rogue build
Ive 1v4d 2 quetzs, a hatz and a thal once and won cuz of the insane DPS
Its js built like that. Its also accurate and I love how they made drypto use its long arms and claws to scratch stuff
hello. who is the largest dromaeosaurid
What if it was attacking an alamosaurus and the forward momentum of the larger herbivore caused the rex to hop 🤔
Do you think Utah is tall or obese?
At least Acrocanthosaurus has arms, what is T.rex going to use to hold onto the Alamo 
The Ol' Reliable Jaws:
Its big meaty jaws
It's gonna cast arresto momento using its deep voice
Well... Idk, it's not exactly "fat", for sure it's larger than the biggest Achillo we found (...so far! I'm rooting for you!) and chonkier than Austro.
see that's a better answer
Perhaps the juvenile Alamosaurus
Nah but seriously, trex could probably get one-shot by a single kick or tail slap by a alamosaurus, even the force of the shorter tails of sauropods would be loud enough to be heard from miles
It's basically a walking tank and 360 hydraulic press
Needless to say there's a reason why things had to become extremely specialized to hunt them
So it's Obese
If you compare it to a Deinonychus without context... I guess
It's why we don't find more fossils in Utah ( Utahraptor ate all of the fossils )
In reality utahraptor was a single bone, it became a complete skeleton by assimilating other utahraptors
It had to get all 7 Infinity Bones ( Or was it 6? )
What did I miss?
i have a question.
Alamosaurus stomping on trex
No it wouldn’t
Now it stomping onto a rex, yeah that’s going to be…painful
But I do not see why or how a brush of the tail will split a rex in two. It’ll be hurt yes, but it’s not gonna be lethal unless it’s like nano sized
More interesting, how did Alamosaurus survive in the Hall Lake fm? Desert Sauropod is like this totally real occurrence and defies all intuition
they liked eating sand clearly
Just because it's not immediately lethal doesn't mean it's not gonna leave a mark
Maybe they could eat aquatic plants or bones? Deserts also have little pockets of bushes or other plants too
like this
If the rex is a PoT player it'll take like more than 3 tail hits to make them realize they are not built for that.
No, they would just try to face tank it and get doublestomped🥀
Then cry for a week the COLOSSAL TITANOSAUR is too broken and it should be nerfed
Theres a reason where theres a whole vid on how mid to large sized sauropods can't be balanced lmao, their just That good. Either their weak or untouchable in game
You can solo them with SHOCK c-creature specialized to h-hunt sauropods?!
Blasphemy!!!
More to the point they seem less adapted for areas of poor arboreal/wooded vegetation
Btw Mapusaurus was so specialized in hunting weakened args in packs that when argentinosaurus went extinct(before the meteor), they simply ceased to exist.
I'm still baffled on what and how did the ceromanian-turonian did to selectively cut away Carcharodontosaurids and spinosaurids without cutting Abelisaurids and Sauropods, expecially Titanosaurids
Lizard people, idk
Like literally there was no spinosaurids nor Carcharodontosaurids descendant after that extinction event
Not even one, not even small like idk a conca.
But there were Abelisaurids that surpassed that size. And yet they survived.
Logically carcharodontosaurids should've just kept getting bigger, most predators today, and even gorgonopsids use the shock method and are the most successful, the predator with the highest successrate that is also a reptile is the komodo dragon and, they also use bleed and a venom that induces more bleed.
Its basically one of the ideal hunting methods, or oneshotting via hydraulic press mouth.(or funny sharp stick or lead ball, that may or may not be tipped with poison)
Oh the Abelisaurs and Megaraptorans just teamed up and ate the Carchs and Spinos
Also ate all the non-titanosaur sauropods cuz they felt like it
I'm convinced sauropods were doing something crazy with their metabolisms that partly explains their success in arid environments and overall
yo what did I miss
Eagerly await in hope of some revelations in future publications
My assumption is that it was probably a lot less like an actual desert than people think, probably still being quite lush.
Depictions of prehistoric environments there are covered in ferns and tall plants, which would have had to exist to support large herbivores.
Eh it’s pretty arid, the paleosols indicate huge periods of sediment starvation in the basin ie. Presumably limited erosion, and stage IV petrocalcic horizon development. Fluvial deposition here is also coarse grain incised channels, very typical of dry climates.
Regardless, I think it's safe to assume there'd be tons more plant life than what exists today, even if it was comparatively arid compared to other areas.
I don’t quite get the reasoning
First of all, large herbivore dinosaurs couldn't possibly sustain themselves otherwise, not to mention biological activity in general during the Mesozoic pales anything we see today.
It's possible there were more hospitable areas nearby, within migration distance that is, and the sauropods were only seasonal visitors. Or there could have been periodic blooms of flora and they simply starved the rest of the year, relying on their mass and stores of fat or something to get them through
i have a question, is seaworld actually a good place or should i still not support it due to animal abuse / mistreatment? everyone be saying its hell but people be saying it changed so idk
Overall I probably wouldn't because it still primarily profits by exploiting said animals
i thought it was one of the best rehabilitation facility’s and rescue facility’s
Well now you see the polemic, plants respond to local climatic conditions in the same way Mesozoic or Cenozoic, the hall lake depo-area is just not capable of being densely vegetated?
Something must be missing that explains the abundance of large dinosaurs then
Such as… novel metabolic adaptations! Or seasonal presence!
Is a monsoon detectable in the climate of Hall Lake
I would be surprised if metabolic adaptations alone could allow them to survive there if it's as lifeless as we are describing it
it's not like alamosaurus is unusual here either, we find sauropods in arid and semiarid climates all the time. It's arguably their preferred habitat. That makes me think something physiological is going on
True, and most importantly I don't think arid necessarily means lifeless either
no it doesn't mean lifeless but when you compare the largest mammalian desert herbivore with the largest desert sauropods it's an order of magnitude difference
and for animals that seem adapted towards browsing that confounds the issue even further, deserts as a rule generally don't have forests
I dunno, I still don't think it would have been a literal desert
geologically that's what the evidence shows us. Let's say though that primary productivity was twice as high as it is today, I'll give you that and there's evidence to support that, the climate and conditions are still going to limit floras ability to prosper there especially megaflora
for various reasons you're still going to have a flora dominated by tough scrubby low to the ground things even if you have twice as much of it
Perhaps there was some sort of exception that allowed certain animals to survive there, seasonal or not. I know that some large plants can exist in certain more arid environments, but that obviously has no evidence here
Given a westward position to the laramide orogeny, westerlies driven precipitation regimes are likely do dominate, so it would not be monsoon but nonetheless the lack of active sedimentation does not bode well for any periods of strong inundation of water.
No relief in sight for our sauropod friends
Just means that there's something we are missing, particularly for tall sauropods like alamosaurus.
The smaller ones like dicraeosaurs still seem particularly well adapted to shorter foliage.
yeah if I was designing a permanent desert dwelling sauropod it would be some kind of short necked dicraeosaur, small bodied, etc
Oddly enough there’s something somewhat similar, a little less extreme but the Willow Creek formation of southern Alberta shows caliche formation in the soil, more ephemeral sort of fluvial action, but Triceratops horridus and apparently based on eggshells, Hadrosaurs, Thescelosaurs, and Leptoceratopsids nonetheless lived
very interesting
Perhaps there are other factors that are supporting the animals here that have not been fully realized or uncovered
this is because Ornithischians were cold blooded of course
One thing I have found is that dinosaurs unknown to most show a novel adaptation to nesting in alluvial fans in less productive climates, so they’re capable of brooding and adapting in new and unpredictable ways to these regimes
Definitely seems like it could have been season or event based then
A testament to ingenuity as well, I couldn’t have predicted an animal could exploit such a feature but it all makes sense with these being the sources of highest water activity in dry climates
Animals are often a lot more resourceful and intelligent than we may realize for sure
What evidence do we have that primary productivity in the Mesozoic was higher than today?
other than human-based devastation of modern ecosystems I mean
From the top of my head, the massive fossil evidence of plants and animals that rival other eras. Even a good chunk of fossil fuel material comes from the Mesozoic.
Reptiles > Mammals, that's the evidence. No, I'm not Biased at all
Rivals does not mean exceeds, and idk if mesozoic plant fossils are any more common than Cenozoic ones
I wanted to say rivals to be more conservative, but it was definitely at a different level than other time periods
I’ve had a cursory glance at some floral sites from the Neogene, the diversity and abundance seems to be about the same as Mesozoic sites I read on, the difference being the amount of plants which are recognisable today.
This gonna be so good
Is the dinosaur you posted above from that?
Morgan Freeman 🐐
Also in regards to desert alamosaurs, they might not have been high browsers. Alamosaurus is a species complex, most of which are saltasaurids, a group that often evolves low browsing or grazing forms
If that's the case, perhaps it was more for stationary reach than height and they just cleared out shrubs?
It would make sense given the size differential between other species, which just use less energy overall
Sauropods in the snow? Cool. Still got elephant skin, but eh that’ll be a hard trope to break.
I wonder where they got the inspiration from, which fossil formation it could be based on
Being that snowy screams some kind of northern Cretaceous formation to me. I wouldn't see snow being common in the Jurassic
E. D. Tron
I'm pretty sure it's meant to be Yixian
Oh interesting
I will point out that in regards to your point about oil and coal, that comes from tens or hundreds of millions of years of build up, compared to the immediacy of today
That's fair, but isn't it pretty high in contrast to other ancient time periods? Save for the one that's literally named after said materials.
Would be an ambitious interpretation of Yixian’s climate, but to speculate about the other environments not really recording deposition where animals could venture is plausible.
I'm not really expecting hard accuracy anyways. I'd be pretty surprised if they even thought about that aspect
I’ve seen this guy a couple of his post good troll account lol
Those sauropods had extremely long necks , I’m wondering if it’s some sauropods from China/japan.
Based on what Cryptyrannus said it looks possible
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/249550694_Global_terrestrial_productivity_in_the_Mesozoic_era here's one paper on it, at work rn can find some more later
it’s yixian with dongbeititan, we see yutyrannus feeding on one layer on in the trailer
The minecraft mod prehistoricfauna for 1.20.1 has the yixian formation in game with dongbeititan, ruixinia, changyraptor, psittacosaurus, and yutyrannus
Are you like...paid to say this or?
Hi @tough parcel
What?
falcon run.
Sorry for the ping but wanna talk about paleontology
Bro didn't even wait a minute to ping me after joining
Clearly an amateur
My bad
I like the mod
It's just so random lol 😭
Anyways back to topics, it's so ugly now
I apologize for the ping I won’t disturb you any further
That just looks like a man in a godzilla suit
Woah, what?
Art imitates life or something
HOW DARE YOU!!
This is actually a leaked government experiment to merge crocodile and human DNA, they will "resurrect" it next month and then claim they have the technology.
Seriously, when did this happen and what does it imply?
Like...today, I think
I don't think it implies anything other than the terrestrial herbivorous crocodile was good at moving on land
The experiments were carried out in south dakota 1983 and only started working 2024
It looks uncannily similar to a bear or primate, and I'm wondering what behaviors it might have had because of that.
Lizard people confirmed? Silurian hypothesis confirmed?
It literally looks like it bro
Guys what do yall know about the Triassic-Jurassic Extincition
No more rauisuchians or unique pseudosuchians, or dicynodonts
It was assumed to be because of climate shifts and competition with animals like dinosaurs, right?
Yeah
I'm lucky enough to have seen postosuchus and desmatosuchus mounts in person
At least I think the bipedal one was postosuchus
Guys I have a theory, simosuchus isn't the true lizard men race, merely a primitive one, the real fossils we haven't found yet
It honestly looks like it could be a transition to bipedalism which is wild
Who knows, maybe the bipedal and sentient ones could be living among us today?
Lmao
Spread the word of simosuchus sapien, it must not die with me
It looks exactly the same as the mount everyone is just seeing things.
What mount
The mount displays it with the same long legs yeah
Everyone thought the legs were a fraction of that size
Biggest different to me looks to be how deep the abdominal region is, which is pretty flexible for artist interpretation
how do you guys think certain marine reptile groups would do in captivity?
That 2nd one has cool colors
Is that one with the rescaled skull?
yes
Here's another https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2504324122
Based
My favourite dinosaur is 100% gallus gallus domesticus 🐔
i'd say proportions are a bit off compared to the scans
Js learned that stegosaurus could change the colour of its plates, it’s that really true or just a theory
Theory, and it’s based on using blood vessels to make the plates more vibrant for display or threat
Chat are Triassic crocodiles and modern crocodiles different on a large scale
Well in the triassic they didn’t exist so I’d say yes
They actually did
Crocodiles as we know no, but crocodylomorpha as a group yes
chat this is a crocodylus btw
Holy it looks so different
tbh the name does include " Suchus "
no bro it's so similar
@outer tusk Would you be a Triassic Crocodile?
I wouldn't because that doesn't exist
What if you are like a Paleo-Cryptid? hmmmmmm? So you don't exist, but there are people who believe you exist
No it doesn’t
I guess the sarscam is out the window
Dang
yeah I know it's an insane concept on the top G's will get
@balmy oyster Would you be a Triassic Crocodile?
Yes I would be a poposaurus
See? Fishy has such a simple mind.

Fixed the scaling by 1:1 the neck vertebrae, still a tad off
Then you must be doing something wrong.
do it yourself then lol
I don’t need to. The person who made this skeletal used scans and proper measurements
Anything that deviates from this then i dunno and you’ll have to ask them yourself.
ew Hartman simosuchus IN THE GRAND,BIG, NEW 2026
you do! I just posted a pic of both references matching the neck vertebrae and still won't match
I did nothing wrong on my side

🤷♂️
I'll do however ask him myself in case there was some wrong measurement so at least can be solved
If u want I can send a inv to a server he’s in
nah don't worry, I got his DM, thanks tho btw 


Man this is like debating 2% size difference in sue via scans and figure lens perspective
yes
The difference aint as in your face as something like ts
probably not possible
would you say plates would be very colored/patterned instead?
way more plausible than colour flushing
what would you say it would look like, out of curiosity
i dont really know tbh, with keratin it can kinda be a wide range of colours
Toucan colored Dacentrurine plates would be hilarious ngl
Color-changing.
which stems from the idea of flushing
Color change cus of blood
dinosaur color change, but it works like in other scaled archosaurs (takes 4-12 hours to change)
yup. But what if as just a seasonal thing?
This would be dope
The allosaur patiently waits for the enemy to swap color
Unfortunately seasons had not yet evolved, the world was permanently in summer
Is that /srs or /j? Guys I can't tell if this guy is being /srs or /j
/srs
/srs
/srs
/srs
hmmmmm... Clearly, by the responses, this is... /j.
srs backwards is srs
coffee spelled backwards is eeffoc
coffee si sdrawkcab delleps eeffoc 🤝
and its funny
WTF???
Just some bullsht with scales
bro is a template for a reptile
just wondering... what kind of sauropod this Old paleoart is supposed to be?
Diplodocus I believe
yeah i kind of see it, but I'll look into it a but more.
The tail and slim head are the biggest giveaway I'd say
that is my guess too
also I have have no idea what this is supposed to be, one of the tags do say Carnotaurus though.
That's one strong dinosaur
this would probably be even more terrifying to see than the Carnotaurus.
Omg bro that's horrific (I've heard it's supposed to be allosaurs but it's not really possible to tell atp)
Holy moly!
bagpipe sauropod
Is that bamboo on its tail
That would be really bizzare
What if the pipes were used to communicate?
read the text
I mean there has been a sauropod with a club tail sooo not impossible.
Imagine if it was like an attachment for horn-like spines or something as well
Yea no what, this makes no sense
A club is decades more simple than whatever that is
It just looks like keratin tubes that would collide to make noise
also found this... Its supposed to be a Lophorhothon.
Looks strange to say thr least
And this is a common thing to find in the animal kingdom?
I'm not defending the accuracy of the art, but it wouldn't be impossible, and we've seen exceedingly bizarre, one of a kind adaptations in nature before.
I'm not even aware of what the "potential irrigation" even means!
In all likelihood it didn't exist and it's just fun speculation, nobody is saying it's real
If I'm interpreting correctly, it's implying attachment points for dermal structures akin to spines/horns?
Here's the paper
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00114-026-02068-5
econdly, the internal soft tissue surrounding this part of the axial column is unknown in sauropods (Conti et al. 2022), such that we cannot rule out possible protective layering strengthening the ‘whip’ from breaking. In addition, a soft tissue structure protruding posteriorly from the last caudal vertebra could have been present, such as a ‘popper’ (Conti et al. 2022), albeit that there is no evidence from the fossil record for the presence of such a structure. This popper, or an equivalent structure, could have been used to strike instead, such that the caudal vertebrae are less at risk from breakage. Given the limitations of a single specimen, this fracture cannot be used to distinguish between inter- or intraspecific combat, accidental trauma, or other causes. As such, the pathology is neither evidence in favor nor against the hypothesis that flagellicaudatan ‘whips’ were used in combat. We do not rule out any other etiologies.
It would be so badass if it actually was a whip reinforcement
Significantly cooler than trypophobia-saurus there
its still a cool piece of art, even if its not accurate its fun to speculate
What am I even looking at
"What if the rattlesnake rattle was biologically impossible"
I would have bought it way more if it was a rattlesnake rattle
or just didn't look like that at all
https://tenor.com/view/bigfoot-walking-oldfootage-hoax-gif-11863733 is it real? Peterson & Gimlin footage
yes i was the bigfoot
If am gonna be 100% this doesn't even look like a good fake spec evo
most experts say its real, anyways i argue with an Bigfoot enthusiast why we never find bones? he said the other bigfoots coolect the bones to a secret place
so its real in youre mind?
The opposite dude
no
why most primate scientist say the movement is correct and we didnt have costumes like that in the 60s, also Ai say its real
Me when bait used to be believable.
He was talking about the dinosaur, not Bigfoot. (Idek where Bigfoot came from in this discussion)
so you bigfoot is alive?
Can you is are not the speak?
im tired i speak several languages bruh xd
I think the most interesting counterargument to "Erm, where are the bodies" is that it does seem to be incredibly difficult to find carcasses of common and known species in the woods
So assuming Bigfoot is real to some degree and (potentially) going extinct, the idea of not finding their corpses isn't as big of a "Gotcha" as people think
If Bigfoot is real they are going to die off before we actually discover them most likely
Why i mostly believe is because Native Americans knew them they called them Sasquatch had even wall carvings soo yes maybe they lifed in America but these times are over
I mean yeah, but the difference is that, you have years where people find carcasses of common and known species in the woods. And for Bigfoot there's like, nothing?
Never said it was bulletproof, just that it's not as simple as what it is made out to be
Assuming it to be a cryptic species in life combined with heavily declining population = no corpses for humans to find
It's like jumping into Africa and assuming you'll find an ape corpse
If real they're obviously not very common at all so it's not that out of the question
Maybe they adapt and are the most intelligent primate after us
Truly, and Non-Avian Dinosaurs are still alive today, and they look like the ones in Jurassic Park ( For no reason )
Is Bigfoot 100% real? Eh probably not, the legends from Native Americans might just be an extension of the wildman mythos that plagues humanity as a whole
Is it possible? I don't particularly see the harm in believing such
ive seen a pitch black lizard in a tub he looked soo dinosaur like he swam even like megalania
I stay correct.
we knew its Gigantopiticus (i want him in path so much)
It's definitely among the more believable cryptids
youre right gigantipithecus wasnt even found in america lol
Trey has a pretty good video about how 95% of the "native american bigfoot legends" are like. Definitely not bigfoots
I've seen skepticism of Trey's video being overly skeptical (attributing certain things that were a bit more of a stretch than need be)
does t rex have a chance vs gigantopithecus?
Reminds me of the " Moose with five legs " rumors that people say that native americans said it
I wouldn't know, but he def did more research on the topic than any bigfoot believer
I only mention it because the person expressing criticism is quite literally writing a paper on the subject iirc
I believe their conclusion is the same but Trey's was too much of a reduction of mythos
more than their paleo videos.
i wonder what he could done with his arms
he coexist with orangutans thats so fascinating.
you just said it, liar, right here 
god it'd be so sick if there was a sauropod with something like that
Do we have an up to date estimation for Magyarosaurus? Wikipedia puts it at 2,6-2,8m and 600kg
assuming Magyarosaurus follows some similar props to a juvenile Rapetosaurus, it would be a good chunk bigger at least within the approx. 1,000kg range
whats all the prey that purussarus hunted
anything that can fit in it's mouth
bruh
Fish
🥀
rodents, giant sloths, toxodonts, turtles
I mean
He ain't wront
And I am guessing you ard talking about the biggest of the 3 Puru species
Iirc They are bite marks on a Terror Bird Bone that possibly come from a P. Neivensis
Are there speculations on how deep could Spinosauris and Suchomimus dive ?
Some papers infered that spoon was likely using water like hyppos due to bone density, this mean tehy used to walk on the riverbeds exploiting the sail to keep a balanced stance
Spino probably didn't go deeper than like 20-30 meters, since it had to kick up to breathe
rivers do typically have that max dept
It’s not untypical, plenty of rivers are that deep
Well it doesn't need to live in the deepest part of the river, that's just the deepest I think it would go
What dinos mated for life(how it feels to have no one on valentines day)
Not really sure if we could tell, but lots of birds do
Maybe theropods and megatheropods?
so what are birds?
We just don't know
I wonder if their were cases like this with dinos
He just like me fr
is that what megalodon felt?
we don't know
same
Nah megalodon mâle is sigma
my aero and his brachiosaurus wife fr
what are some prehestoric marine reptiles of australia?
thoughts on the new thal model?
funny looking guy
you picked the worst subspecies for this but the default thal is peak now
i had to use a youtube video as my thing is still updating
did it go from bottom 5 to top 5 most accurate?
it's at least on par with hatz & rhamph
Best glowup
if it was a 1/10 accuracy, what is it now?
dammnnn he really got a good haircut for the ladies
this default looks much better on this tlc
what subspecies is this I feel like it has some weird pteranodontid skull triats
no clue
well what's the name for that subspecies?
I'll look
Pachy and Stego left i'd say, imo
nvm I found it
Cuneumi (too late lol)
the other two
gigathal
I like how "robustus" is based on Kariridraco sadly doesn't hold it's species name but Cuneumi seems to be a weird mix
Actually, that is a dinosaur☝️
Excuse the late response, do u think they also visited the ocean from time to time ? Not much, but maybe the shallowes parts of it
Bro had a bit of a glowup just to be mogged by smok
Wrong chat
Not the deep ocean of course, but i don't see why it wouldn't hang out near the shore
Good place to find beached marine reptiles to eat, and its habitat is next to the ocean
Yeah, something like this
Yeah sure
Love imagining a Spino swimming tbh, what an amazing animal, what do u think about Sucho ? It seems that the conseus is that unlike Bary or Spino, it couldn't really dive and hunted more like a grizzly
Sucho probably swam at the surface like most theropods
I'm sure it was a competent swimmer though, almost every dinosaur is
~~ew archosaurian Smok
~~
its 100% a rauisuchian btw..
I had no idea about that, thanks lol
Hoglin and metridiochoerus(giant warthog)
Prototaxies were massive tree sized fungi that existed in the devonian. Seem familiar?
@outer tusk Would you be the Spinosaurus in a Tribute or AMV video? ( It's paleo-related )
Prototaxites wasn’t a fungus
Which one is the real animal?
Life really does imitate art(metridiochoerus)
Oh I see, the left one is the real one
LIVE MAMMOTH
live mammoth reaction
I feel like I’ve seen this before
is this true...
Probably
Buddy…
dude thinks he's clever
It might be...
Maybe they already were able to revive the mammoth but the information got leaked so they had to hide the mammoth away so they can create a more comprehensible version by fusing mammoth DNA with an Indian elephant in the future
-# Jango.. what are you talking about?
-# it’s clearly fake.
Sorry guys, I took my mammoth suit for a test drive
Its clearly paleoloxodon
dude you're joking right 😭
no, i fully believe that during the cold war mammoths were still alive and were hiding in siberia with no previous recordings of them there besides the video
sorry I just didn't see an obvious tone marker lol
oh sorry
/srs
does anyone have any swimming motions / gifs / examples of how itchyosaurs like shoni would swim?
Heck I’d argue they could STILL be alive in remote canadian/siberian wilderness, animals can make themselves very elusive, especially in areas we rarely travel to
still?
Nah mammoths would have crazy migrating range like elephants so if they did exist, we wouldve found them by now
im interested, expand your thinkjing on this.
Mokele mbembe confirmed
Guys what are the chances that the Tasmanian Tiger is still alive in Tasmania?
Low. It would have higher chances of being alive in Australia, except we know it went extinct there way longer ago
Figured
Also no, mammoths did not survive up to the time of Google Earth somewhere in Canada. I could see them surviving up to like, a few hundred years ago when we hadn't explored and documented those areas, but not anymore
I think that’s an overestimation…. Since the last mammoths were a few thousand years ago on an island and a bit inbred if I remembered correctly
No yeah I don't think they survived that long realistically. I'm saying it's possible they were around in like the 1600s, but it would be impossible to find one alive today
the most likely answer is they disappeared, at most, a few hundred years after the last recorded fossil
would livy have spermacet like sperm whales do?
whats a weight comparison between meg and livy?
did meg really go from 18m to 15m???
anywhere from about the same weight to meg being 4 times livy's weight depending on who you ask
their pulling trhe " But until we have enough evidences or trustable sources, this is what we have " card what do i say
what is the trustable source that meg is 15m? the latest research puts it at 24m
can i have the paper link?
https://palaeo-electronica.org/content/2024/5079-megalodon-body-form
like half of the world's otodontid researchers participated in this paper, it would take a lot for them all to be wrong
thank you random
wait....so now meg is EVEN BIGGER then livy in this image?
this is probably supposed to be an average meg, in which case 17m is probably reasonable? idk
it is, it's also more likely Livyatan doesn't really push the 15 meter mark
oh alright, damn, livy needs to find itself more materials...or some more reseachers who love it enough to write abunch of papers about it
while looking for this paper I stumbled upon a random redditor calling all of these people hacks based on... keenan taylor's drawing of a really fat whale shark
???
whale sharks do not have slender bodies (based on keenan taylor's drawing), therefore you do not need a slender body to be an effective swimmer, therefore the paper is fake
@rancid dove
Is it ever present in Holocene Australia?
Up to ~3300 years ago
how much of its life and time would titanaboa would spend in water?
does anyone have a source on negment snowing or being cold enough to snow?
i thought you meant meg as in megalania oh my god
I'm having an upsettingly hard time trying to understand what this means
do moose coun t as semi aquatic?
yes
All that's probably gonna get ya is a downsized livy
damn, why?
We cant rule out the possibility that tyrannosaurus could sing
At least better then certain people
Prob alot due to how its Built
Its like Tyrannosaurus and Spinosaurus or any other large theropod
Megalodon gets larger, and remains larger with every new paper, much to the dismay of everyone who doesn't like it
Livyatan, being the thing everyone wants to be larger than meg, gets downsized
Giganotosaurus Moment
What we need for Livy is the Post Crania of an Adult Individual
THAT would help
Next livy specimen is the weird free floating vestigial leg bone
Bro what
Someone fact check this please
https://share.google/T4aSeZcjxdPPO5ABW
i mean it's microorganisms. they'll bounce back from anything that isn't total annihilation
And even sometimes total annihilation
true
Microorganisms are better than you ever will be.
Of course it is
Which are the 5 heaviest theropods? Excluding Gomez
Is Sigilmassasaurus valid ?
Trex
Zhucheng (pending description)
Spino
Giga/carcha
Tmcraeensis
kem kem carch indet trust
Is Spinosaurus maroccanus valid too ? 
Well…yes, but no.
Less because it’s second spino and more so that’s sigil’s old name
second spino is “neotype” spino but officially it’s gonna be schimitar spino
Oh there’s also Tyrannotitan but we have to wait on it for a bit
Schimitar ? 
It’s precisely what you think it is, it’s gonna be awesome 
Is latenivenatrix valid?
Thanks 
Aerosteon vs brown bear?
Tyrannotitan? Isn't under 7t?
I think Tyrannotitan would be maybe low Mega Theropod range to be lightly honest….
Depends
Think you get it at 7.2t with Giga's Dorsal
However an update will come hopefully soon
An upsize?
cool my baby megaldoon is magnificent 
and the livyathan too🗣️ 🔥
its a reunderstanding of the animals mass, sure
Maybe
But theres more to it
I have a question for anyone who researched about mesozoic plants: could this https://share.google/05kL346jMV3T8vj38 be used to accurately represent mid and late cretaceous landscapes?
Yeah this kinda Old
Tyranno is prob like 6th or 5th
Cause its still smaller than Mapu
Imagine if titan in pot was its real size
Would be Cool
But doubt it
Only Carcha that may do that
Is Meraxes 2nd Specimen
But that mf is still years away
Also, do you believe in the Amazon river sauropod cryptid mokele mbembe or the African kasai rex?
Never heard of either
Or atleast don't remember
So unless we havd proper material, idk
Kasai rex is a lizard
Maybe a Terrible Lizard
maybe a tyrant lizard
Kentsantiagoart
Does any knows the status of the Titanosaur fossils that were discovered alongside Rajasaurus holotype?
I thought Mokele Mbembe was also African? Its name also sounds like it originates from Africa.
It is african
The interpretation of it being a sauropod is also a western conspiracy theory. Europeans paid the locals to say "yep that's the guy right there" when pointed to pictures of sauropods
Which tracks when you consider that mokele is typically shown being aquatic, elephant-skinned and dragging its tail, not at all like a real sauropod but much like the 1900s idea of a sauropod
Granted, I believe that cryptid’s are fun to believe in, but you have to acknowledge that they aren’t real due to lack of evidence in the fields of modern media
Tyranno should be 4th rn. Only giga, carcha and mapu are bigger
He meant in Megatheropod range
In Terms of its Family then yeah for the Moment is 4th
Oh yea. 6th or 8th depending on if u use 6.7t or 7.2t.
I feel 7.2t is better, 6.7t uses Acro dorsal, 7.2t is using Giga's which for Titan probably works Better
Ah yea then 6th since it’s just abit bigger than duck and tarbo
this one weighed 10 tons, did you know that ?
i checked the official info
Not aquatic? Haven’t you heard of sauropod sex lakes?
What an awful thing to read at the start of the day
Jealous
Looks more like tupuxuara
i feel like only the beak really ressembles it
I think both subs are meant to represent other taperarids (robustus Tupuxuara, the other one for probably Europejara)
I mean, the beak is kinda wrong for Tupuxuara if we look at this paleoart
I do believe it can also be inspired by very recent depictions of Tapejara but I might be wrong
Paleoart is also not a good indicator of whether smth is "accurate" or not, look at the fossils
Fossils indicate the upturn is perfectly fine @chrome zodiac
I see, my bad then !
^ btw have you found a possible related reference for cunemi?
All g 💛 just glad I was able to help
I hit enter too early...
I would assume retro Thal recons when the broken crest was assumed to be complete
ight yeah cunemi is personally growing on me easily
out of the 3 fliers, how would y'all rate them from the least to most accurate?
It’s capable of getting to the 7 - 8 ton range easily
Idk about the 8t range
It barely got 7.2t using Giga Dorsal with its Old Version
Idk how New Version will add 800kgs when both look similar
The new version looks totally different
I wonder if carch's going to change like TTT
Normalize calling Tyrannotitan “Triple T”.
or TTitan
Yeah, yours is better…
No.
TTT ride or die
Give titan aoe and make it easy to play-devs
@tough parcel wanna hear a crazy thing I've just noticed now?
Hm?
Camarasaurids have really short forelimbs???
Wdym?
Just saw this
went to museum of natural history and wanted to buy a trex tooth but didn’t want to but now i’m regretting
I was a rex tooth at the museum of natural history and this guy looked like he wanted to buy me but didn’t and now I’m sad
like compared to other Macronarians, they have really short forelimbs.
are they?
Could modern day monitor lizards theoretically evolve into mosasaurs if they had to?
Their necks also seem a tad short
I mean, when I was trying to posture one, yeah
I would say Camarasaurus has normal legs for a macronarians
okay, but try to put it in a Upright stance
what in a upright stance, the neck?
Back.
why the back
I think it would emphasize my point better.
you don't measure forelimbs by posture, you measure forelimbs by the size of the forelimbs?
the latter
im confused.
Has anyone tried to fix this guy's jaw?
yeah that's what i said
Is it bad if I say I prefer the broken jaw allosaurus over WWD's big al
just reference the female allosaurus
was THE ALLOSAURUS the largest therapod in each of its formations?
I uninstalled pot for space on my phone, I wonder after the remov of 1gb of ram it's actually better to play on now
No, in my country, portugal, in the Lourinhã formation, torvosaurus is larger than allosaurus europaeus AND fragilis, and allosauris europaeus is around the size of ceratosaurus tbh
Shsssh, don't mention the name of a FRAUD infront of the goat
the biggest fraud ever.
arent they around the same size now or is that just in morrison
Like, I have a nintendo switch but I don't think I'd want to use money on this game twice, so mobile is kinda my only option for now
Btw, is that the same guy that made the " Carcharodontosaur Saurophaganax " skull? I can sorta of tell
if you assume MB R 3627 is a allosaurus species then lmao
yes
This ugly bastard hasn't gotten beautiful even after all that time. Still wonder where that f*cka#s dentary comes from.
So, it was made up. I see. Did thought I saw it in a Bone Wars era publication one time, but I never found it again
Ngl I always thought that people who thought saurophaganax was its own species of allosaurid sounded stupid and Im so glad Im right lol
not really
Seriously saurophaganax fans are annoying af, you couldn't introduce any piece of dinosaur media without someone asking "where's saurophaganax"
How so?
Because it's made up of relatives based on their skull material
ah, sorry. It's a " Potential Man " then
still betting on it being lumped onto Allosaurus fragilis forever.
You might say, the allosaurus keeps on the path of titans?
How would path of titans play if the dino stats were realistic?
awfully. every playable besides maybe 10 wouldn't be able to move around the maps
which is more important for a fun game than annoyingly busted and lopsided stats
rex would be the best terrestorial creature and you'd only be safe if you were a semi aquatic or small tier 3 and below
nah
you can't just ask a question and then say "no" when someone brings up a good point lol