codm-discussion-💫

[small halo]

eh i think it came back a few times in garena/cn

[ruby cloud]

You've got to be sh-ing me

[opal socket]

I tried too using XM4 and don't allow the label yet even if they said it is

[vague sage]

Oh well, now I want both ASM10 and M4

[arctic pawn]

Better than his ex 🔥

[vague sage]

Yes

[small halo]

you'll get them all IF it comes to global

[vague sage]

😭

[small vessel]

Xm4 is not that bad. You guys sleeping on it

[opal socket]

Is literally my main AR

I posted a layout in #weapon-layouts to show how good it is

[crisp juniper]

Please take me in snapdragon tournament

[vague sage]

What, who said that xd

[teal field]

its very nice, but we will see how it will work next season

[uneven field]

Did codm improve the bots in the game??

They snipe me across da map now

[teal field]

seems so

[uneven field]

Like literally they sniped me from 100m range ma

[opal socket]

I don't like to rush, but with XM4 I feel comfortable enough to do it.

[vague sage]

More like buff, but yeah

[uneven field]

😭

[arctic pawn]

Cuz its a sniper?

[uneven field]

They are just a nightmare in br

[cerulean musk]

Wait blackout is kinda fun..

[opal socket]

Yo, base Knife blueprints change hit time?

[uneven field]

Yes that one with DLQ33

[opal socket]

Because Bright Gold feels slower than Chakram

[uneven field]

Their aimbot is crazyyyy

[opal socket]

I love Chakram now

[arctic pawn]

Ik, but what isnt crazy its you got killed by a sniper thats meant for longer ranges

[vague sage]

Yep, every different model changes the behavior and stats

[teal field]

yeah but now they behave a little bit normal

[opal socket]

That explains a lot

I spend like 1000 cps for a sword that was not that good

[ruby cloud]

Ur layout mid

[small halo]

reinforced > taskforce barrel for xm4

[opal socket]

SuperGRI liked so u mid

[uneven field]

I mean they kill me even with the normal guns 🥲

I have skill issue

[ruby cloud]

But strafe is trash with your build how do you rush lol

[opal socket]

Easy.

I don't stafe because I don't rush

[ruby cloud]

Smh kids

[atomic bronze]

Yes

[opal socket]

Or not mostly

[opal socket]

fr fr

[cerulean musk]

If you want to strafe use t19 not xm4

[atomic bronze]

It's good off meta gun

[cerulean musk]

Xm4 is not built for strafing

[dawn silo]

Oden >>>>>>

[small vessel]

Yh so fun to use ngl

[hearty dove]

Groza>

[opal socket]

2 tap but painfully slow

[atomic bronze]

You either get a flex ar with flex smg range or just a slightly worse type 19

I think latter is the obvious choice

[dawn silo]

No

[sturdy roost]

Is xm4 like a better version of type19 and m4

[opal socket]

Also nerfed colossus

[dawn silo]

ur just not built for oden

[opal socket]

Better than M4, worse than T19

[hearty dove]

Maddox echo fire is oden 2.0 but can 2 tap foot

[dawn silo]

oden shoots every Assault rifle out of the universe

[sturdy roost]

Oh because of the recoil?

[atomic bronze]

No

[atomic bronze]

Because of range mainly

[dawn silo]

Maddox echo < Oden

[hearty dove]

Sure

[opal socket]

ZRG is good for passive sniping?

[uneven field]

Tru

[dawn silo]

You‘re not hitting 100% of your maddox echo shots, but Oden is Oden

[opal socket]

[hearty dove]

If you're trash that is

[cerulean musk]

Cordite>

[hearty dove]

Cordite is sm worse

[atomic bronze]

Hdr>

[cerulean musk]

Slightly less strafe than groza but way more ammo

[opal socket]

MAC10 in BR >

[cerulean musk]

Hell nah

[hearty dove]

More ammo.. but way slower reload

[feral bolt]

yo i have a question

[opal socket]

[hearty dove]

I'd rather reload faster than have more ammo

[feral bolt]

what if I hypothetically forgot my username

[cerulean musk]

You have 80 rounds

[manic pawn]

its not in global

[feral bolt]

in game username

[hearty dove]

Yep, but slower reload

[vague sage]

I mean, echo Maddox loses the effectiveness after the first 2 ranges iirc

[cerulean musk]

And the reload speed is just over a second

[ruby cloud]

Let's just meet in the middle and say LAG>both

[vague sage]

I know lol

[hearty dove]

Sure

[opal socket]

It will be global soon

Pls

[manic pawn]

very old skin

collab skin

it came before ground forces started

[cerulean musk]

Yeah thats not way the way to go

[hearty dove]

It definitely is

[opal socket]

They confirmed bringing back old collabs in 2025

[manic pawn]

lets see

[opal socket]

At least on China, hopes are up

[cerulean musk]

80 rounds and ~1 second reload time what more do you want

[dawn silo]

That‘s false

[cerulean musk]

Also cordite is more viable in close range than groza

[dawn silo]

Oden >= Lag

[ruby cloud]

Why we nesbaiting againt

[opal socket]

Bring back Alchemy, now I will buy the entire draw

[dawn silo]

I‘m not

[cerulean musk]

Its way more flexible than groza

[hearty dove]

It really isnt

[dawn silo]

I‘m dead serious

[hearty dove]

Groza is 10x more flex

[cerulean musk]

Yea it is

[limber bolt]

Man when are the draws coming back bruh

[cerulean musk]

An smg is better at close than an ar

[limber bolt]

Store be looking empty af

[dawn silo]

it‘s hard telling which one is better because Lag Having to land a single torso shot to 2 tap is arguably easier than Oden's 1 chest or 2 arms deal I mean it‘s pretty little but there is a difference if we talk about 3 tap And LAG‘s fire interval is 150ms while Oden is 145ms So the 2 tap TTK is 300ms and 290ms which is noticeable respectfully

[hearty dove]

Ar is better than an smg what's your point

[limber bolt]

Strong boxes mid

[hearty dove]

It's literally a better pdw in every way

You're reaching

[limber bolt]

Nothing to spend my 36000cp one bruh

[hearty dove]

Nothing to spend my 70k cp on

[cerulean musk]

My point is cordite is better than groza in every way

[ruby cloud]

Invest in real life

[hearty dove]

It isn't.

🤣

[ruby cloud]

In b4 gri shows up

[limber bolt]

Well I did, how you think I’m getting the money to pay for in game items

[cerulean musk]

That being slightly less strafe and millisecond longer reloads

[ruby cloud]

Invest more

[hearty dove]

How do you build your groza my guy😭

[ruby cloud]

Buy tencent,inc

[limber bolt]

I have like 70k in investments

[cerulean musk]

How do YOU build it

[hearty dove]

I asked you homie

[ruby cloud]

Not enough

[limber bolt]

😭

[hearty dove]

You don't know how to build a gun correctly

[ruby cloud]

Get a room you two

[hearty dove]

Call the gun trash but don't know how to 😭

[limber bolt]

Man looking at the Chinese server getting all sorts of guns is so depressing bruh

Why doesn’t global get this treatment

[cerulean musk]

What are you talking about

I didnt even show you the build yet

[limber bolt]

Prob cause activation’s a dog doodoo company

[ruby cloud]

What works in china doesn't work in global and vice versa

It's a walled off culture so they appreciate different things

[limber bolt]

Nah

[peak needle]

guys can I get a good red dot sight fennec loadout

[hearty dove]

Yeah idk what that guys going on about

[limber bolt]

The Tencent devs simply knows how to entice people to spend more

[hearty dove]

If people want a skin, they want a skin

[ruby cloud]

I'd argue otherwise

[hearty dove]

It's that simple

[ruby cloud]

Because many mmorpgs used to do that

It didn't work most of the time

[gray cloud]

Hello guys

[limber bolt]

Bruh I just want mg42 campaign to return like it did in Chinese server bruh

[hearty dove]

@cerulean musk man that setup looks disgusting

[limber bolt]

And other legendary and mythics

[hearty dove]

Nah

What we need back is krm glorious blaze

[ruby cloud]

Take a page out of rastii's playbook and play on cn with emulator lol

[hearty dove]

They removed the krm and the next day or so, they gave it to garena with a discount

[cerulean musk]

Whats your loadout?

[hearty dove]

They def hate global

[lyric plaza]

is there a new update?

[limber bolt]

Well I got no Chinese phone number no Chinese passport or id and no android phone

[limber bolt]

Nope

[cerulean musk]

@hearty dove what the hell is that

[hearty dove]

Be so fr

[cerulean musk]

Yeah theres no point arguing with you

What is that build

[hearty dove]

Yeah no point in arguing with you

People who use suppressors are impossible

Agency is the biggest waste of an attachment slot

[cerulean musk]

I guess im impossible

[hearty dove]

🤷🏽‍♂️

[ruby cloud]

@tall birch give my man some tips

[ruby cloud]

Finally an opinion I can get behind

[tall birch]

Then you can't play

[peak needle]

Guys pls give me a good fennec red dot sight loadout

[tall birch]

[ruby cloud]

Which old person did you mug in china

[tardy grove]

Does the purifier even work in br

[tall birch]

I played a lot of Chinese MMOs and online games, made friends

[spice fern]

Cordite with belt fed when?

[peak needle]

???

[tall birch]

When pigs fly

[peak needle]

pls i really need one

[tardy grove]

Belt fed smg

[peak needle]

my normal fennec ironsight is realy bad its takes up too uch of the screen

[spice fern]

It’s a thing is cod

[atomic bronze]

Okay now that's just plain lie

[peak needle]

its really unfortunate that i dont have fennec death engine

[peak needle]

else, id be better off

[hearty dove]

I own death engine it's not worth it

[cerulean musk]

Maybe

[tardy grove]

Mono, extended light, operator foregrip, extended mag A, optic

[hearty dove]

Default is so much better

[ruby cloud]

Mono
Extended mag
Operator fg
No stock

[tardy grove]

Me when I lie

[peak needle]

ok

[peak needle]

thanks

[hearty dove]

Me when I don't know how bad death engine is:

[cerulean musk]

My point actually was that cordite feels way better than groza

[peak needle]

ill try both loadout

[spice fern]

Msmc supremacy

[cerulean musk]

Bc it has more ammo

[tardy grove]

It’s pretty good

[peak needle]

is that so?

[hearty dove]

Well yeah your point wasn't really a point

[hearty dove]

If you're blind it's good, otherwise use default irons

[tardy grove]

Because it is 🙏🏿

[cerulean musk]

You shush you dont know how to build gunsmiths

[ruby cloud]

50 rounds is more than enough for most types of engagements in this game

[hearty dove]

You're talking?

[tardy grove]

I like the Russian fennec

[atomic bronze]

Groza has way better range, has slightly better strafe and iirc has better sprint. Not to mention way better bsa and better flinch ofc

Cordite has better ttk though and larger mag

Completely fair trade all things considered. More range vs more ttk pretty much

[hearty dove]

You literally have an agency suppressor on your groza

[cerulean musk]

Cordite allows for more aggressive play bc of more ammo and mobility

[hearty dove]

Please don't talk for your own good

[atomic bronze]

Yes....where is the issue

[hearty dove]

Where isn't the issue?

[cerulean musk]

I checked and groza has worse strafe and mobility

[peak needle]

agency suppresor?

[cerulean musk]

Aka movement speed

[tardy grove]

It has no downsides

[atomic bronze]

What's your cordite build?

[hearty dove]

You must be looking at the wrong setup

[tardy grove]

There are no wrong setups

[hearty dove]

Wasting an attachment slot IS THE downside

[atomic bronze]

In fact that it's the first attachment you'll pur on groza anyway

[atomic bronze]

False

[atomic bronze]

What ☠️

[hearty dove]

It isn't if you're actually smart

[tardy grove]

You can use whatever you so please if you’re good at the game

[hearty dove]

10% vertical recoil? Just use higher vertical sense

[peak needle]

there are wrong setups man, what ya on abt?

[hearty dove]

It's not hard. Seriously

[cerulean musk]

There’s no point in arguing with him he thinks a silencer is a waste

[atomic bronze]

Holy I just saw this guy's griza holy

[atomic bronze]

That's not reason for using agnecy suppressor???

[opal socket]

Guys, I maybe adopted a cat by accident

[ruby cloud]

Shut suppressors suppress gun moans

[hearty dove]

Wasting an attachment slot is a reason to not use it

[atomic bronze]

Are you rage baiting or just being slow

[tardy grove]

It used because it’s a suppressor man

[ruby cloud]

Let the guns moan free

[tardy grove]

Prolly rage baiting

[atomic bronze]

You don't waste a slot though suppressor is necessary anyway

[hearty dove]

It's not necessary

Be real

[tardy grove]

Anybody that’s played 5 seconds of codm knows how basically mandatory suppressors are on all guns

[hearty dove]

You have to be ragebaiting

[hearty dove]

That's just lvl 50 stuff

Real players know what's up

[ruby cloud]

You won't win a debate with gri
Just say you like it bareback and roll with it

[hearty dove]

Not tryna debate

[atomic bronze]

It's the only attachment that's necessary on every gun

[hearty dove]

Just stating a fact

[tardy grove]

There are also no other muzzle attachments worth using over a suppressor

[atomic bronze]

Tec9 and maddox would be meta if they could be suppressed

[peak needle]

suppresor's right?

[atomic bronze]

But OH WELL they can't

[hearty dove]

Exactly, so don't use the suppressor

[atomic bronze]

What

[hearty dove]

You can have extra movement speed and strafe

[atomic bronze]

What kind of dumbass logic is that

[atomic bronze]

Not worth it

[hearty dove]

Logic that you wish you had

[atomic bronze]

You lose suppression

[hearty dove]

And?

[tardy grove]

Devs needa add a muzzle attachment that rivals suppressors

[atomic bronze]

Almost nothing is worth losing suppression

[ruby cloud]

Might break the game

[atomic bronze]

Only time you would ever sacrifice suppression in this game is maddox echo fire

[hearty dove]

You don't need suppression if you play agro..

[peak needle]

agreed

[atomic bronze]

You do

[tardy grove]

What would you even be using instead of a suppressor on a gun?

[peak needle]

completely

[atomic bronze]

That just doesn't make sense

[cerulean musk]

You dont even get downsides for agency suppressor

[peak needle]

suppresion is one of the most important things

[hearty dove]

Man these people are actually dumb

I can't with them🤣

[ruby cloud]

Hit him with the spreadsheets

[atomic bronze]

Exactly you can't add a muzzle to compete with suppressor when SUPPRESSOR IS NECESSARY

[tardy grove]

If not for suppression most guns could do with the 25% range increase on monolithic and on agency the recoil buff is just a bonus

[cerulean musk]

His brain is too small to comprehend that

[peak needle]

ikr.

[spice fern]

Bruh they need to bring back earnable music tapes bruh

[peak needle]

that just makes sense

suppresion is damn important

ngl, without suppresion the gun sound unsatisfying to your ears too

[tardy grove]

If not for suppressors I don’t think anybody would ever get a nuke

[peak needle]

supression just makes it souund better

[cerulean musk]

Cordite is better than groza

[ruby cloud]

Alright this one is I have to disagree with
Let the guns moan man

[peak needle]

and besides, suppresor is impo

[cerulean musk]

For aggressive close range combat

[lyric plaza]

Rytec shoot sound

[peak needle]

depends

[vague sage]

You could.........if your enemies are bots or players that don't know what a mini map is

[cerulean musk]

Dlq is the best sounding sniper

[peak needle]

...

[peak needle]

true, very true

[cerulean musk]

Assassin perk:

[ruby cloud]

Suppressed tundra literally sounds like a piece of fabric being driven a nail into

[peak needle]

Suppresors are necessary

[lyric plaza]

DLQ, Tundra, Locus, Outlaw

[atomic bronze]

No suppressor is just a huge con for no reason

[vague sage]

Nobody uses that 😭

[peak needle]

ngl, that makes me laugh

[cerulean musk]

Ik but it exists

[peak needle]

not the tundra, the tundra with a suppresor sounds too suppresed

[atomic bronze]

AND we still haven't gotten over the fact this guy is not only notusing suppressor but using god damn MILSPEC BARREL

[lyric plaza]

it scares me

[paper torrent]

@atomic bronze yo lil bro what's a good lmg?

For mp

[vague sage]

On which weapon?

[atomic bronze]

Peakm raal mg hades bruen

[ruby cloud]

Spam mg42

If you're braindea

[atomic bronze]

Mister what is the only gun in the game with milspec barrel

[ruby cloud]

Otherwise use raal

[vague sage]

Ahhh, Groza

[ruby cloud]

Groza

[tardy grove]

Raal is so nice

[peak needle]

MG42 users in legendary SnD matches be like

[paper torrent]

Word

[tardy grove]

I wish I had a better blueprint for it

[opal socket]

There are

[vague sage]

You missed the bp?

[tardy grove]

Nah I have it

[atomic bronze]

@cerulean musk #codm-media i think it's fair to say groza=cordite

[tardy grove]

I just don’t like it that much

[opal socket]

You have a lot of attachment, you can get the worst setup in one of the combinations.

[ruby cloud]

He meant in a post modernist way

[tardy grove]

You cannot intentionally make a setup so bad that it heavily alters how well you play

Unless you’re that one guy with no proFile or picture in gunsmithing

[atomic bronze]

You can

[atomic bronze]

Welp exactly lol

[cerulean musk]

You can most definitely rock with both 👍

I just think when it comes to more close range aggressive play its cordite

[atomic bronze]

True because of faster ttk

[tardy grove]

I love hipfire spamming w cordite

[ruby cloud]

Cordite has terrible hit flinch anyways

[spice fern]

M1 garand when?

[cerulean musk]

Mureki 🩷

My beloved

[opal socket]

You can.

[peak needle]

You can.

[crisp juniper]

Anyone want to join north america tournament

[vague sage]

He once said that his reason for doing those builds, It was to try different builds to avoid being repetitive
💀

[rigid perch]

I can't login 😭

[tardy grove]

I meant unintentionally*

[atomic bronze]

No suppressor
4.4× scope
Short barrel
Steady stock
Stippled grip
No mag
Tactical laser

@tardy grove this will def alter your playstyle

[cerulean musk]

You cant blame him

[tardy grove]

Like nobody accidentally slaps a 6x scope on a mac10

[peak needle]

Like make the slowest loadout for a gun and hop into shipment hardpoint ranked or unranked

[cerulean musk]

Gunsmiths are getting repetitive

[opal socket]

Suppressor can alter you playstyle

[tardy grove]

I meant unintentionally 🙏🏿 😭

[opal socket]

just by the fact without it you turn into a human UAV

[peak needle]

... you got a point

[vague sage]

If the repetitive build is the best one, why would you use something that's straight worse

[hearty dove]

That's why you just find a random gun and chuck a hipfire build on it lol

[atomic bronze]

Yet still most ppl don't know best builds for 99% of guns

[tardy grove]

I feel like you can get away with monolithic and light stock on most guns and call it a day

[atomic bronze]

Depends but mono and gran are two most useful attachments in the game overall

[cerulean musk]

Youre missing the point

[vague sage]

Me when granulated on swordfish 😭

[cerulean musk]

Its about having more variety for more fun

[tardy grove]

How do you even use swordfish

[hearty dove]

Stacking hipfire on swordfish is deadly

[tardy grove]

The 5 burst mag feels so much worse than the 4 burst

[cerulean musk]

But if its all the same builds over and over wheres the fun?

[atomic bronze]

Slap halberd and just have good aim

[vague sage]

Halberd mag takes care of the recoils

[hearty dove]

5 burst is better

[blissful ivy]

[opal socket]

I used it with recomended loadout

[tardy grove]

I know it is but it feels like I’m being forced to hit more shots

[atomic bronze]

@opal socket who made that vid

[umbral mango]

for me it was tap-play instead of spray-and-pray

[opal socket]

hate burst fire

[hearty dove]

I'd love to have your sbmm..

[peak needle]

if u dont have halbard mag on swordfish, u aint a true swordfish user

[hearty dove]

Man I've been mvp the last 10 games and still haven't won a single one

[blissful ivy]

sbmm? 😭

[hearty dove]

Skill based matchmaking

[opal socket]

Some guy called Strangeonegaming (all caps)

[rigid perch]

I can login

[hearty dove]

Honestly it doesn't even work how it's supposed to at the moment so how could I even call it that

[vague sage]

Ew, wait

[tardy grove]

I remember when swordfish came out codm devs just kept chucking blueprints at everybody

[ruby cloud]

Sbmm kills games

[peak needle]

ever since cod pulled that out... 😢 😢😢

[blissful ivy]

Just play codm at 12am in the morning everyone can barely keep up and are tired

[tardy grove]

Swear the season it came out it had like 5 blueprints

[hearty dove]

It really does

[atomic bronze]

Knew it was that idiot

[ruby cloud]

I have like 7 M13 blueprints and I'm completely f2p

[cerulean musk]

Thats when its most sweaty 😭

[hearty dove]

No one's online at that time lol

It's 12:05am for me right now

[cerulean musk]

All the sweats logging on at night

[vague sage]

It's so sad that he relies on clickbaiting mostly

[tardy grove]

His voice is so annoying

[blissful ivy]

HOW everyone is tired

[opal socket]

[cerulean musk]

Tryhards dont get tired

[blissful ivy]

Bot lobby’s or tired people

[tardy grove]

I always watch kith and Noah so when someone starts chatting to me about some “WHATS UP GUYS” I get so irritated

[opal socket]

wat da hel is doing a polar bear in arlington texas 😭 😭 😭

[hearty dove]

I never get bots or tired people😭

[umbral mango]

same XD morning time is best to play ranked

[hearty dove]

Even if I do find one game it'll have really bad teammates and good enemies

Sometimes I feel like the game hates me

[ruby cloud]

Play at noon so you don't match with all the kids because they're at school

[peak needle]

Facts man

[blissful ivy]

Texas is cold and snowy

Perfect for polar bears

[hearty dove]

Noah is where its at

Noah, script and bobby are basically the only ones I watch

[tardy grove]

Has there ever been ffa in ranked?

[opal socket]

I luv polar bears
I luv texas

[atomic bronze]

Bobby lmao

[tardy grove]

Mmm Bobby

[hearty dove]

Yeah noah isn't there to pay his rent

Atleast bobby has a decent upload schedule

[barren fossil]

Anyone Rank push? Am at M4

[hearty dove]

And stream schedule

[blissful ivy]

never been to texas before

[cerulean musk]

Quality over quantity

[hearty dove]

True

[atomic bronze]

Why would one watch bobby actually

[hearty dove]

But when the quality isn't there you gotta skip to quantity

[tardy grove]

He’s very casual

[cerulean musk]

The same reason people watch clip farm content

[tardy grove]

Sometimes it’s nicer to see how a normal player perceives things

[opal socket]

me neither

[cerulean musk]

Deprived dopamine addicts

[atomic bronze]

Bad tips
Bad gameplay
Bad lists
Bad builds
Not funny, very egotistical
Mid editing
What am I missing

[opal socket]

I only watch spanish ones, Dimitry and Art Nieve

[hearty dove]

Yeah there was this small British streamer I watched lol ages ago

[tardy grove]

Watching bad players is good because you can learn from them

[hearty dove]

Cool guy and replied to every comment

[tardy grove]

To learn what not to do

[hearty dove]

Those are the people I like watching

[cerulean musk]

I think its the opposite lmao

[vague sage]

@atomic bronze also, thermow damage profiles were always like this?, I don't remember the last one

[hearty dove]

But kith, I don't really agree with his gun rankings

He assumes everyone uses the same setup

It's not actually objective, but his opinion

And how he builds them

[atomic bronze]

Yes

[peak needle]

fair point

[cerulean musk]

Thermow 🤮

[vague sage]

So regardless of that it's still 2 tap?

[atomic bronze]

Because you should

There is only 2% of guns where there is more than one build

[cerulean musk]

Only use it when we are getting mowed down by score streaks

[atomic bronze]

He is the most objective youtuber rn

[tardy grove]

Yeah his gun rankings are a little bit crazy sometimes but I play on and off every few months so it’s nice to see what guns are worth my time

[cerulean musk]

Especially on hp shipment

[peak needle]

thermite rounds man-o-war users r so annoying fr (dont judge my ranked games)

[hearty dove]

Ones personal gun ranking are the most accurate

[atomic bronze]

Just that I disagree with his analysis
@zibrxs sorry 😔

[hearty dove]

He's just putting his opinion out there

[tardy grove]

Kith did say something crazy once

[hearty dove]

Those are the guns he feels are good to him

[atomic bronze]

Not really

[tardy grove]

He said AK47 is better than the DR-H

[hearty dove]

Yes really

[atomic bronze]

Kith doesn't make his list anyway so it's not even based on personal opinions

[peak needle]

DRH is just too good

[atomic bronze]

Ak47=drh but for average player ak will prob better

[cerulean musk]

Isnt uss better

[tardy grove]

Dr-h is definitely better. But it’s not crazy to say ak47 is close

[hearty dove]

Ak47 is better for the recoil and bsa

But drh for those people with better aim

[peak needle]

DRH is better than ak tho

[tardy grove]

Dr-h has no recoil

[atomic bronze]

They are equal but ak47 is easier to use

[atomic bronze]

They are equal

[peak needle]

... idc tbh

[hearty dove]

Incorrect

[tardy grove]

The only flaw I see in dr-h is having to run vulture

[tardy grove]

Bro what gunsmiths are you using

Dr-h and recoil in the same sentence

[hearty dove]

It actually has a weird recoil pattern

That ak doesn't have

[rough blade]

I need help bypassing a "Connection Problem. Please try again later (C9A100002)" Error for the Public test build, any help please?

[peak needle]

any fast, suppresed uss 9 loadout would be appreciated, tho

[hearty dove]

Ak47s recoil pattern is very straightfoward

[lyric plaza]

can u check no attachment rytec for me?

[cerulean musk]

Same dude who said “just swipe down”

[vague sage]

Why, what do you need to know

[hearty dove]

Same dude who is dumb

[tardy grove]

Of course but I just don’t reckon dr-h has all that much recoil

[rough blade]

I need help bypassing a "Connection Problem. Please try again later (C9A100002)" Error for the Public test build, any help please?'

[hearty dove]

And takes everything out of context

[cerulean musk]

Ooooooh you got me there

[lyric plaza]

getting to know my fav gun that's all

[hearty dove]

Yeah not saying the recoil is high

[atomic bronze]

Tldr ak47=drh

[hearty dove]

Just the pattern is a bit weird

[lyric plaza]

cuz i sux lately

[cerulean musk]

Uss9>

[tardy grove]

💯

[atomic bronze]

Uss=

[hearty dove]

If a new player were to pick up an ak47 vs drh I guarantee the ak would be better for them

[atomic bronze]

That is correct

[old imp]

Big mag

[atomic bronze]

Ak is easier to use

[hearty dove]

Not incorrect

[hearty dove]

Yep

[cerulean musk]

This man cant be serious

[peak needle]

is it?

[cerulean musk]

Not incorrect mean’s correct

[hearty dove]

Did I stutter?

[tardy grove]

Is the lk24 leggy worth no running a optic on it?

[atomic bronze]

Of course yes

More than two times larger mag
Easier hitbox

[tardy grove]

I feel like when I get it I’ll just end up running an optic anyways

[hearty dove]

Just use no optic

[peak needle]

ppl just use lk now cuz of the free legendary dedly petals ngl

[hearty dove]

I mean ak47 with fmj hits the spot I can't lie

[tardy grove]

Lk24 has always been pretty strong

[old imp]

U dont need optic

[peak needle]

it was kinda dead if not for the leg lk24 deadly petals

[tardy grove]

Practically infinite 4 shot

[hearty dove]

You know what else has infinite 4 shot?

[atomic bronze]

It's mid rn

[hearty dove]

This low taper fade

[tardy grove]

How good is kn44 rn

[hearty dove]

Good

[tardy grove]

I was seeing it a lot last season not so much now

[hearty dove]

Try it out

[tardy grove]

That’s a brilliant idea

[hearty dove]

It's not as good as drh but

[atomic bronze]

Meta

[fair plover]

So we yappin??

[hearty dove]

You won't really notice a difference

[fair plover]

..

[hearty dove]

I mean I play better with the kn than drh

[fair plover]

.

[peak needle]

kn44 i have it on weapon mastery iron or smt used to use it a lot but trealised there were way better guns

[hearty dove]

Report this Emmanuel guy😭

[fair plover]

Ok?

Y😭

[atomic bronze]

There aren't

[hearty dove]

The spamming is crazy

[atomic bronze]

Kn44 is best main ar in the game

[fair plover]

Spamming who??

[hearty dove]

True

[tardy grove]

The best??

[hearty dove]

Depends on your playstyle to be honest

[tardy grove]

Well I suppose ars have been pretty lackluster lately

[atomic bronze]

What other gun could possibly comprte with kn44

Kn44 wipes any other main ar

[fair plover]

QQ9

[tardy grove]

I always imagine bp50 being an smg for some reason

[atomic bronze]

Me when I lie

[vague sage]

Hmmmm, which one looks better?

[peak needle]

i love it, close to diamond for this

[hearty dove]

Jealous I wish I had 10cp draws😭

[peak needle]

...

Wish i wasn't broke

[tardy grove]

I can’t think of any home run ars

[sharp thorn]

spectre

[atomic bronze]

What

[hearty dove]

There are a few

[peak needle]

cbr4 is working good for me in gm frontline and hardpoint lobbies for now

[atomic bronze]

Wdym home run ars

[sharp thorn]

bro these pics aint loading

[tardy grove]

I can’t think of any ars that are absolutely brilliant

[peak needle]

home run, wdym?

[cerulean musk]

Left (but imo it needs a better color pattern)

[sharp thorn]

fr556 💯

[atomic bronze]

What does that even mean

[tardy grove]

💀

[atomic bronze]

Meta ars?

[opal socket]

Cupcakes vs Cyberpunk

[hearty dove]

asm10 branson?

[opal socket]

[hearty dove]

bk57?

[sharp thorn]

burger king 57

[tardy grove]

Not meta there’s plenty of those I’m talking like. Prime type 25 type ars

I mean there was bp50 I suppose

[opal socket]

Mythics characters are 20 cp draws

[hearty dove]

we got the mow thermite my man

[cerulean musk]

Prime typ25 is meta tho 😭

[atomic bronze]

There are like 17 meta ars

[sharp thorn]

please delete the game

[cerulean musk]

Or was*

[vague sage]

I mean

[hearty dove]

man my mythic character draws are 50cp

[hearty dove]

i dont use it trust

[atomic bronze]

Bp50 was only broken gun we had in years

So it's normal we don't have any broken guns rn

[hearty dove]

only for scorestreaks 🤫

[opal socket]

Rich

[hearty dove]

nah i dont buy characters. waste of cp

[cerulean musk]

Yeah purple looks better

[sharp thorn]

still ur inciting others to be as bad as u

[hearty dove]

if they lowered us to 10cp prices is buy some maybe

[hearty dove]

not really

[sharp thorn]

right ok richie rich

[sharp thorn]

chill im joking

[opal socket]

I only will buy Leggy

[hearty dove]

im not bad in the first place. i dont use it on people

i swear 😭

[opal socket]

I don't like any Mythic Character

[tardy grove]

Meta guns used to mean something 😢

Now the game is fair and balanced

👎

[peak needle]

not even Nikto darkside...?

[hearty dove]

so like are we not going to talk about the hvk 30

[opal socket]

Thats good

[atomic bronze]

That's a good thing 😭

[opal socket]

Thats a leggy

[peak needle]

good point

[atomic bronze]

Why would we

[hearty dove]

yeah sur

[cerulean musk]

Hbr when it was p2w

[hearty dove]

while 90% of people use uss9

[atomic bronze]

Yeah ew

[sharp thorn]

u want another broken meta are u out of your mind?

[opal socket]

I use mx9

[hearty dove]

cool

[opal socket]

just because I have a leggy

[atomic bronze]

The game is fairly balanced

The fact most people are dumb is another thing

[tardy grove]

Kinda

[opal socket]

welp, I don't use it, I'm with ZRG

[atomic bronze]

Use rate is horrible way to judge balance of a game

[tardy grove]

Emergency balance changes are always so funny

[opal socket]

I will get a ZRG leggy no matter what

[hearty dove]

"fairly" do you know what fairly means 😭

[opal socket]

A permanent one

[peak needle]

im confused, what does leggy really mean in codm?

[tardy grove]

Legendary

[atomic bronze]

46/97 guns are meta

There are only like 10 bad guns

I'd say that's fairly balanced

[hearty dove]

i want that mx9 leggie. the exostatic or whatever its called

[vague sage]

Her base form doesn't look bad either

[tardy grove]

What are the 10 bad guns

[opal socket]

Legendary

[peak needle]

lmao, johan liebert

[sharp thorn]

her base looks nicer

[hearty dove]

i had it for a trial in 2023 loved it. it was the only thing i used

[opal socket]

I have that one, temporary

[peak needle]

ah ic. so good or bad?

[cerulean musk]

Scylla vibes

[hearty dove]

mhm. get it, its so worth it

[opal socket]

I regret buying that crate in last season

[atomic bronze]

At top of my head grau m4 ebr svd echo ksp iso and idk i forgor

[tardy grove]

Grau is bad?

[hearty dove]

grau is nowhere near bad

[tardy grove]

Why do so many people use it then

[opal socket]

They give another 10x crate the last season

[peak needle]

not grau man, i used to kinda like it

[tardy grove]

I see grau SO often

[opal socket]

But the guanrantee is after 50 draws

[hearty dove]

yeah i know

[opal socket]

[peak needle]

too often

[opal socket]

I still regretting buying it

[cerulean musk]

Yeah its a gun built for new players

[peak needle]

what's y'all's ranks rn guys?

[hearty dove]

it was the only thing i used from 2023-2024

[cerulean musk]

Thats why so many people like it

[opal socket]

Good if you're rich, bad if you're poor

[peak needle]

is that so?

[opal socket]

[peak needle]

...

[opal socket]

GM1 almost 2

[tardy grove]

Grand master 2 I think

[peak needle]

gm1

[atomic bronze]

Worst ar=bad no?

[atomic bronze]

God knows

[hearty dove]

worst ar?

i want to get some of what you smokin man

[atomic bronze]

Yes that's grau and m4

[peak needle]

M4 agreed, grau not really

[tardy grove]

Grau being the worst ar isn’t that crazy to say

[peak needle]

i used to use it

[atomic bronze]

Not at all it's normal thing to say

[atomic bronze]

Name a worse ar than grau

[hearty dove]

fr556?

[opal socket]

The worst ar is just average

[peak needle]

M4

[tardy grove]

Honestly looking at the guns list

[atomic bronze]

They are tied as worst ars so yeah

[worthy trellis]

Helloo

[opal socket]

that says how good balanced that category is

[tardy grove]

Yeah grau high key is the worst ar

[opal socket]

[worthy trellis]

Can anyone give me free. Cpppp

[fading stone]

Guys what’s the best and easiest way to get casche

[opal socket]

[tardy grove]

Pause

[opal socket]

Do like me

[fading stone]

[opal socket]

Get a job

[worthy trellis]

😋😋

Tnx for ur compliment

[tardy grove]

I hate how normal it is to abbreviate cod points

[opal socket]

Playing

[opal socket]

codps

[fading stone]

._.

[hearty dove]

shouldnt hate the player man hate the game

[peak needle]

smbdy kick this guy

[worthy trellis]

Whyy

[opal socket]

There's not fast way than just playing

[peak needle]

i have 0 cp, i dont beg like u tho

[worthy trellis]

Come 1v1

[atomic bronze]

It has decent ttk profile, main ar accuraccy and okay ish mobility

While grau has trash ttk/range and mid everythung

[fading stone]

.-.

[opal socket]

The event is made to last long

[fading stone]

Oh alr

[atomic bronze]

I wouldn't call grau average cuz of how bad it's ttk/range is

[fading stone]

Thx

[atomic bronze]

Like it's horrid

[hearty dove]

ttk, i woulndnt say that with drifter

however the range and bsa are definitely bad

[tardy grove]

I bought the monthly supply pass

[tardy grove]

Not very good

[opal socket]

below average?

[atomic bronze]

Drifter makes ttk/range profile go from one of worst to def the worst

[warped hare]

I used to global it. Great ar but it needs a buff

[opal socket]

At least M4 is just average

[hearty dove]

but as a med range ar its not bad

[atomic bronze]

They just need to make it 4 shot in second range consistently

And ot would be bearable

[peak needle]

...

[warped hare]

That and possibly a 3 tap to the head at first range

[atomic bronze]

It's a gun designed to be noob gun anyway

[atomic bronze]

Already does, but 2/3

[worthy trellis]

@peak needle bro is gone noob

[peak needle]

what?

[warped hare]

Ehh it’s not that noticeable

[atomic bronze]

Again 2/3 headshots to 3 tap

[peak needle]

what is it? why u so aggresive chi;; a bit

[hearty dove]

33.4metres

[peak needle]

chill

[worthy trellis]

I am not.. ur

[warped hare]

That’s my point still tho I meant just one headshot necessary

[atomic bronze]

33.4m what

[atomic bronze]

Yeah like type

[hearty dove]

gotta hit all 3 headshots till 33.4 metres

[worthy trellis]

Why will you say that kind of nonsense

[warped hare]

Yup

[hearty dove]

2/3 to the head in first range

[warped hare]

That would make the fr556 an incredible gun

The ads bullet spread is fantastic

[atomic bronze]

Wait

[peak needle]

im bad at 1v1's man chill, im learning so id be glad if someone teaches me, but not now

[warped hare]

It can be rather mobile

[peak needle]

k i gtg bye

[atomic bronze]

You are talking about fr??? @warped hare

[sharp thorn]

ksp is so garbage

like wtf bro

[atomic bronze]

I thought you meant grau the whole time

[worthy trellis]

So be quite

[peak needle]

facts.

[warped hare]

Nah fr

[peak needle]

i gtg bye

[warped hare]

Grau is eh

[atomic bronze]

Ohhhhh

[warped hare]

They nerfed it to meh

[worthy trellis]

Yehh

[sharp thorn]

such a shame when this is one of my fav skins

[atomic bronze]

It was trash since the start

[hearty dove]

bring back ksp meta

[atomic bronze]

And they nerfed it because it was overused

[hearty dove]

ksp was god tier

[sharp thorn]

nah bring back krig meta

[warped hare]

Nah grau at launch was ok but not fantastic

[sick elm]

what gun is dat

[atomic bronze]

Even at launch it was worst ar

[hearty dove]

krig was never meta

[warped hare]

Bring back akimbo fennec meta

[hearty dove]

for most people atleast

[warped hare]

[hearty dove]

(non p2ws)

[atomic bronze]

Make it 3 tap in first range

[atomic bronze]

What

[sharp thorn]

ksp divinity

[sharp thorn]

my guy are u high

[sharp thorn]

frfr 2 tap to the head

[hearty dove]

think you are high

[warped hare]

Bring back lsw meta

[sharp thorn]

no u

[atomic bronze]

Zhe what

[hearty dove]

being real, the krig had too much aimshake even with a red dot

[atomic bronze]

Imagine using red dot on krig

[warped hare]

S1

[sharp thorn]

krig was literally meta in 2023 from s1 to s3

[atomic bronze]

Rn we have the most balanced gunpool this game has ever seen btw

[warped hare]

Pre gunsmith and all era

[sharp thorn]

use this

[hearty dove]

besides bp50 and uss9 of course

[atomic bronze]

Hahahah no

Including them

[hearty dove]

hahahah yes

not including them

[atomic bronze]

Let's stop pretending bp50 and uss are special

[warped hare]

Idk I can slap them with a cbr

[atomic bronze]

They aren't

[warped hare]

I even do so with a chicom

[atomic bronze]

They are as good as any other meta guns

[hearty dove]

really depends on the player thats using them

[warped hare]

It chicom needs a buff

[hearty dove]

chicom is crazy good

[atomic bronze]

It doesn't it's meta burst smg

[ancient rivet]

bruh

[hearty dove]

i used to beam even before the buff back in 2023

[sharp thorn]

chicom is literally good

[warped hare]

Nah bro

[willow wave]

How long do we have for the secret cache thingy to end?

[atomic bronze]

It is

[warped hare]

Pharo with taser

[hearty dove]

a year

[sharp thorn]

it is

[sick elm]

3 weeks

[warped hare]

[willow wave]

Thanks

[sharp thorn]

nice try

u suck at spreading disinformation tho

[willow wave]

Cap

[warped hare]

Nah I always loved my chicom but it isn’t a consistent 1 tap

[sick elm]

no i don’t

[hearty dove]

id say tec is better at super close range though

[warped hare]

If it was a 1 tap I’d love it fully

[sharp thorn]

chicom is a burst gun my guy

[hearty dove]

chicom is kind of powerful at longer ranges

[sharp thorn]

what one tap

it actually has range now

[warped hare]

1 tap burst

In first range

[hearty dove]

it is 😭

[warped hare]

It isn’t

[sharp thorn]

?????

[warped hare]

Tested it this season

[atomic bronze]

No burst smg is 1 tap?

[hearty dove]

i want what youre smoking

[atomic bronze]

It is 1 burst till 15m

Iirc, 15m 150ms

[placid marsh]

A serious question, does belonging to the top 100 among weapon hard? I am one in RUS, and honestly, I don't really think I'm that exceptional

[atomic bronze]

Extremely consistent 1 burst

[atomic bronze]

Nope

[warped hare]

I saw the stats but it didn’t do the same in practice mode

[hearty dove]

13.5

[hearty dove]

depends what gun

[placid marsh]

nc straight and direct

[hearty dove]

and how high the points requirement is

[warped hare]

Can be more depending on gunsmith

[placid marsh]

I use a rus

[hearty dove]

thats the highest range gunsmith

[placid marsh]

top 67

[sharp thorn]

depends what gun

[hearty dove]

i mean in this meta it might be a bit hard

but it isnt a bad gun

[sharp thorn]

i used to be on sks lbs

and it wasnt hard

[hearty dove]

just not as good as the other guns

[atomic bronze]

Oh i forgot to mention cbr for bad guns

[sharp thorn]

no one uses that gun cuz ya

[hearty dove]

yeah to be honest sks is really easy to use for me

i just have no loadout slots available lol

[sharp thorn]

i could use sks with 3 fingers

[placid marsh]

yeah, but it's my comfort weapon and it's pretty hard to not use it lol

[hearty dove]

go ahead then

[placid marsh]

but hopefully planning to main something from assault rifle

[warped hare]

Odd then as it hasn’t been working properly and I have that sort of build I just checked again

[hearty dove]

but past 5k points

you will lose points if you lose a game

[sharp thorn]

only if ur leggy

cuz when i was on sks lbs i hit 5k before gm

and gained/lost 0 points the whole of gm

[hearty dove]

yeah that can happen

[manic pawn]

[hearty dove]

if you do good in some games

itll not take away points and youll go up

[sharp thorn]

might have been a blessing cuz i hard grinded in master

[hearty dove]

same with ranked points

[placid marsh]

what assault rifle is in the meta right now?

[sharp thorn]

from 4.1k to 5k in 4 days

[hearty dove]

ye

i went from 5k to 5.7k on my hg40 in like what a week

in top 5k lobbies. you just need a good strat

[vague sage]

Lmao

[hearty dove]

if youve secured a win and its guaranteed ill just whip it out

[vague sage]

@atomic bronze

[hearty dove]

or just turn into a main, and use that gun, and only that gun

[sharp thorn]

i overused the sks :))

easy 10k when i return ong

[violet goblet]

guys do u get daily bot invite? because i dont this new season

[sharp thorn]

im about to get 2.5k kills before hitting leggy

[hearty dove]

if thats overused

[atomic bronze]

Some of these are smgs/lmgs that play like ars

Slow fire rate mid range ars(from most aggressive to most passive)-asm10, uss9, drh, em2, ak47
Slow fire rate flex ars(from most aggressive to most passive)-bizon, hvk, bk57, kn44
Fast fire rate mid range ars-groza, ak117, type 19, peacekeeper mk2, bruen(its an ar nowadays)
Fast fire rate flex ars-qxr, bp50, ffar
Burst ar-swordfish

[hearty dove]

then i have so many overused guns.. i need to touch grass

[sharp thorn]

nah its not, i underused it

[vague sage]

If you reject them too many times, you won't get more invites on the next daily resets

[violet goblet]

yeah but i didnt reject and also didnt get

[hearty dove]

the branson is difficult

[vague sage]

No idea then

[hearty dove]

it is fast firing and also slow firing at the same time

[terse sleet]

@opal socket not only you

[hearty dove]

ive got 20k on my dlq, and i havent touched that thing in years

[terse sleet]

What is the smg and lmg to grind mp ranked

[terse sleet]

I use it once in a while

[hearty dove]

hades

and pkm

mg42 if youre a rat

smg, i guess you could use uss9, hg40, groza (plays like an smg)

agr is also good but high skill high reward

[vague sage]

Talking about agr...

[hearty dove]

what about it

[tardy grove]

Uzi

[terse sleet]

Thanks bro

[vague sage]

Lol

[hearty dove]

yeah nah like the thing is actually busted

[tardy grove]

Worse than xm4 at being an smg

[hearty dove]

however not good for super close range, its more of an ar than smg

if were being real

[vague sage]

Cuz Agr is not an smg really, with both 30 and 60 round mag

[hearty dove]

xmr just has a better recoil pattern

but once you get used to agr its actually so much better

[terse sleet]

Xm4 is a worse gun

[outer vessel]

Hi everyone

[manic pawn]

waiting for mythic gun because its p2w ||/s need to grind diamond||

[atomic bronze]

Meta smgs rn are qq9 cx9 ots9 mx9 chicom and smgs that play like ars such as cordite uss qxr and bizon

Meta lmgs are hades raal pkm mg42 and bruen

[hearty dove]

i mean the xm4 does have faster ttk

[terse sleet]

But I guess that gun can 1tap in br

[outer vessel]

Yeah for sure

[terse sleet]

If head shot

[atomic bronze]

It can't

[vague sage]

And then you have echo maddox

[atomic bronze]

Man that range on xm4 needs to be fixed

[manic pawn]

not everyone can use that maddox build

[hearty dove]

you buildin that wrong 😭

my man use the fast reload mag

[vague sage]

What about it

[terse sleet]

If head shot

[atomic bronze]

Nope

[hearty dove]

on maddox

[atomic bronze]

Bro an ar can't 1 shot head

[hearty dove]

fast extended mag A

[atomic bronze]

Not even when it used to be bugged

[vague sage]

Ah, I was just comparing recoil

[manic pawn]

it can if hp is low

[hearty dove]

ah

[manic pawn]

[atomic bronze]

Reinforced>taskforce
Infiltrator foregrip+50 stanag mag>serpent wrap+45 salvo

[terse sleet]

The one I use is type19

[atomic bronze]

We both know that's not what 1 tap means

[hearty dove]

trippping with the reinforced

[atomic bronze]

Type 19 is mid in br

[vague sage]

But reload time of less than 1 second 😩

[manic pawn]

im using reinforced since beginning. does that mean im bigger stat nerd than yuutsu?

[atomic bronze]

You aren't even aware how much mobility you are losing for that reload speed

[manic pawn]

[atomic bronze]

[terse sleet]

And but most time shotgun

[vague sage]

Don't tell me that it has hidden stats

💀

[hearty dove]

talking about mobility while he uses reinforced

[atomic bronze]

No just that it boosts mobility a lot

[vague sage]

Huh

[atomic bronze]

@vague sage goes from 3.41m/s to 3.8m/s strafe

You are forgetting +movemebt speed boosts all three mobility stats

[hearty dove]

if you want strafe speed, use taskforce barrel

[manic pawn]

@tall birch fofia hair color changes with palette

[atomic bronze]

@vague sage this is with taskforce btw

[terse sleet]

I actually don't reload in close range just switch gun

[atomic bronze]

Taskforce has worse mobility relative to it's range by a lot

[manic pawn]

you use pistols?

[elder scroll]

Can someone give pdw build

[atomic bronze]

Light stock
Granukated grip
Sleight of hand
Extended light barrel
Monolithic suppressor

[vague sage]

[terse sleet]

Ohh if mp you have no choice

[hearty dove]

full hipfire and sprint speed type 19 build goes crazy with gung ho perk

[vague sage]

You just realized?

[terse sleet]

I thought it was br

[manic pawn]

yesterday

[vague sage]

Should have asked me (?)

[opal socket]

[manic pawn]

but it looks like LED light from halo

[opal socket]

what u mean

[manic pawn]

how can i ask if i have no idea about it