codm-discussion-💫

[hasty mist]

with raal you practically are a still target when shooting

not a fan

[clear forum]

ye

[small halo]

you have to play like a rat with raal

[clear forum]

that why mg da goat frrr

[small halo]

just find a corner to warm ur ass and bang walls

[knotty parcel]

Thought the stats of both in comparison got little difference

[hasty mist]

why the mythic needs to return instead of holger

[clear forum]

ehhh other than inspect im not really a fan of myth mg

[hasty mist]

no shake

[knotty parcel]

Basically pkm but slower?

[small halo]

base movement speed of pkm is 4.11. raal is 3.62. base ads speed of pkm is 520ms. raal is 660

[knotty parcel]

Its like playing the line of p2w and f2p like a jump rope

[atomic bronze]

Same mobility

[knotty parcel]

Eh

[small halo]

hit harder than pkm with a longer 3shot range but slower

[atomic bronze]

Thats base with build its diff

[knotty parcel]

So negligible at best?

[atomic bronze]

Yes

Same mobility
15.645s vs 18.905s spray duration
100%,100%,100% wall pen vs 88.8%,87%,81.6% wall pen
~14.28 bi/s vs ~7.82 bi/s
Infinite 210ms vs 38m 190ms infinite 285ms
14.9 vs 15.4 bsa
Both have 14 taper
1235m/s bv(20.58(3)m hitscan or if you believe in client side bv ~0.8ms/m) vs hitscan

[clear forum]

i mean does it have like something unique gameplay wise?

[clear forum]

not a firm believer of numbers tbh

cus all it is is like either i hit or miss

[hasty mist]

the guys accurate

[clear forum]

ye but its pretty useless for me imo

[knotty parcel]

In my experience from borrowing @vague sage’s mg, yes there is a uniqueness to it in gameplay when compared to its base skin and mythic skin

[hasty mist]

me too but it’s for stat purposes

[clear forum]

well does it have like a good iron sight? something that has to do with moving?

tbf mg iron sight isnt the worst

[hasty mist]

it’s just better

[knotty parcel]

Scopes visibility, aimshake, the feel of the gun yea it really does make the gun feel quite easy to control

[hasty mist]

sound looks kill effect

[small halo]

mg mythic is mid in terms of design but the iron is goated

[knotty parcel]

It has p2w irons on mythic

[knotty parcel]

Very goated

[clear forum]

ye like every other myth

[knotty parcel]

Like top of the list irons

[clear forum]

i havent seen it tho

[small halo]

esp max iron

[hasty mist]

cuz it only came out once

look at the t19 for example

[clear forum]

nah i mean the iron

[small halo]

eh not necessarily

[hasty mist]

this is the 2nd return and it’s being SPAMMED in every lobby

[knotty parcel]

Except to old mythics such as as val and holgae, dont like it much

[small halo]

some mythics have shaky iron. mg42 iron is so stable

[hasty mist]

about that

[clear forum]

base mg iron pretty stable enough tbf

[hasty mist]

why do people say switchblade mythic iron has shake

[small halo]

idk. i dont find it shaky

[knotty parcel]

Dont even remember getting aimshake with that

Its clean as hell maybe some aimshake but its so smol like .0000009 meters typa thing

[small halo]

as val and ak47 iron are quite shaky

they added shake to krig too but its still good

[hasty mist]

grau?

[small halo]

grau iron is fine but still shakes a bit

[knotty parcel]

Kinda like the ak mythic iron, tho shaky but gun has a bit of a slow fire rate so not much of a problem to me

[small halo]

yea same. i got used to base iron

all ak47 skins shake anyway

[willow wave]

I don't like ak mythic or the gun in general

[small halo]

ure just a hater

[tranquil light]

Real

[lethal hawk]

ranked system so bad negative iq players can reach leggy

[atomic bronze]

Infiltrator foregrip
Agile stock
Large caliber mag
Firm grip
Agency suppressor

[clear forum]

frrrr i am one of them

[lethal hawk]

We failed to take the spawn of 2nd hp and now the 3rd hp is about to begin
They flipped the spawn at the last 10 sec while I am inside 3rd hp

One guy who was with me for some reason decided to move to team base spawn instead of staying inside with me

And now I have to face 1v5

U in garena

[atomic bronze]

Replace firm grip

[lethal hawk]

Lost 150-19

Cuz failed to capture spawn

[atomic bronze]

What

[hasty mist]

why did you put a thumbs down on someone mp5 build cuz they just replaced no stock for mip stock @atomic bronze

[atomic bronze]

Infiltrator foregrip

[atomic bronze]

Yes

[hasty mist]

it’s not bad entirely

[atomic bronze]

Idk what you are asking but that's best attachment on mx9 anyway after agile stock

No

[hasty mist]

that grip is good on t19

or was it the merc one

forgot

[lethal hawk]

Firing range against a team with sks luminary , mythic t19 and t63
Who do u think won the match

[atomic bronze]

It's movement speed(aka sprint+strafe) sprint and strafe speed

Mainly it's used to jack it to highest strafe speed in smg category

[hasty mist]

t19 ofc

[lethal hawk]

5 uss9

[atomic bronze]

Are you dumb or yes

Stf is the most useless stat ever, agile stock is used for strafe

Recoil who cares

no damage
What?

No that's the build that makes mx9 meta

[hasty mist]

i can’t

[lethal hawk]

Movement in ads side to side

[atomic bronze]

Wtf is this

Trash strafe wasted attachmebt on laser

STRAFE

[hasty mist]

HAHAH

[lethal hawk]

[hasty mist]

JAJAHA

[lethal hawk]

Skill issue

[atomic bronze]

Oh wait I made mistake, Built-in siilencer not agency suppressor

Mb

[lethal hawk]

[hasty mist]

[lethal hawk]

It makes harder for enemy to shoot u

[hasty mist]

say it again

keep it pg

[atomic bronze]

Moving left and right while ads-ed, most important movement in the game yk

[lethal hawk]

[atomic bronze]

Nah it was periods

Yes are you dumb 😭

That answers my question

[lethal hawk]

No.wonder u got nuked

[atomic bronze]

Bro you do realize that makes you easy asf to kill

[hasty mist]

no wonder you put a ranger on a mp5

[atomic bronze]

You NEED to strafe while ads-ed it's one of most important factors to winning a gunfights

Because if you aren't strafing your enemy has a huge advantage

[lethal hawk]

I am at 14.1k point lil bro

[atomic bronze]

Because you are easy to aim at but he isn't because he is strafing

So while you are struggling to aim he kills you easily

[dawn silo]

How the hell is bro putting ranger fg on hyper aggro smg

[atomic bronze]

Did you not read the convo, this idiot doesn't strafe

[hasty mist]

because he doesn’t move

[atomic bronze]

Yeah bro we can notice by your brain power

[lethal hawk]

13k point or age wtf

[hasty mist]

he meant 13k points

not age

[lethal hawk]

Prove it

[dawn silo]

Oh god

[lethal hawk]

Send a ss

[dawn silo]

Lmao

[hasty mist]

got timed out for 50 seconds

i just know you don’t know how to slide cancel

[fervent plume]

wsp

[lethal hawk]

#codm-media

[hasty mist]

maybe that’s why you don’t run agile stock on mx9

[lethal hawk]

@willow wave

[hasty mist]

ur attachment can pound sand

[karmic terrace]

Guys when will legy outlaw return 😭I really need it

[hasty mist]

i never used mx9 either and don’t plan to

[karmic terrace]

It’s not at the for u draw 🥲

[hasty mist]

ur joking ?

[lethal hawk]

Now prove ur points

[karmic terrace]

No I’m not I really need it 💀

[hasty mist]

the yellow one right?

[karmic terrace]

Any one of them would be alright for me

[hasty mist]

is it not in the fyp

[karmic terrace]

Do you have any idea when will they return ? (Roughly

[karmic terrace]

It isn’t

[hasty mist]

nope

[limber bolt]

Can’t wait for season reset

I want my new bp and bp vault

[lethal hawk]

-diesel is all I need

[hasty mist]

same can’t wait to use bp50 again

[limber bolt]

How they come up with some fire epic weapons in the new battle pass

[karmic terrace]

Check media ,there are no outlaw 🥲

[lethal hawk]

Give me a good hp map where there is no spawnflip

[hasty mist]

diesel

[limber bolt]

Idk, honestly any weapon with custom iron sight

[lethal hawk]

2nd and 4th hp

[limber bolt]

That is good

Not like the hg40 and ppsh epic iron sight

[hasty mist]

takeoff

[lethal hawk]

Solo q

[hasty mist]

apoc

[lethal hawk]

Hp map

[hasty mist]

it is hp

for comp

[lethal hawk]

Wait

[hasty mist]

areesnal too

[lethal hawk]

Yeah it was a good map

Better than diesel

As if nuketown was not painful

[hasty mist]

nuketown is garbage

[polar jetty]

The f man, I fricking got a ping of 200 ms 5 times twice in MP!

F this game

[lethal hawk]

Good map

[hasty mist]

i hope they bring back the russian nuketown back so nobody votes for it

[hasty mist]

most bipolar spawns

[lethal hawk]

And that's why it's good

50-50 chance

[hasty mist]

legit forced to anchor or u won’t win

and nobody wants to do that in my lobbies

which is why nuketown garbo

[lethal hawk]

Unlike summit 3rd hp where once spawn is gone match s over

[hasty mist]

@karmic terrace what language is that

looks visually appealing

[lethal hawk]

Mow thermite

🗿

Stealth chopper one mag

Vtol 2-3 mag

[karmic terrace]

It’s mandarin

[fervent plume]

okay

[fresh agate]

no me

[dawn silo]

@atomic bronze Weapon Layout core: "If you want to run no stock then use tactical suppressor instead of monolithic suppressor“

[atomic bronze]

Ik I'm not dumb, I just had to troll him for not specifying

[fervent plume]

are you sure

[fresh agate]

no.

[dawn silo]

Sync do I have to remember you

When I nuked you

[cerulean musk]

Bsa is trash with no stock + monolithic

So to have good bsa and still maintain suppression use tactical

[dawn silo]

Bsa is good enough considering that it‘s an hyper aggro smg

You‘ll need the range eventually

[willow wave]

Can someone gimme a type 19 build

[lilac basin]

yes

[lilac basin]

Type 19 MP:-

• North Industry Suppressor
• Accurate Long Barrel/Merc Foregrip
• Agile Stock
• Polymer Grip
• 48 Round Mag

[willow wave]

Thanks!

[hasty mist]

recommended

[cerulean musk]

If you want good range them pair it with mip stock

So you can actually hit your shots at long range bc of good bsa

[arctic pawn]

Stocks gives range?

[cerulean musk]

It gives bsa for you to land more shots at longer ranges

[hasty mist]

and recoil control

[arctic pawn]

Fair enough

[lilac basin]

yeah if you face bots then only you gon win the gunfight fella

[arctic pawn]

Both no stock and mip are good anyways

[cerulean musk]

?

[lilac basin]

400ms ttk ain't it chief

having 0bsa won't help u anyway

[cerulean musk]

Then why are we so concerned about the extra range on mono

[lilac basin]

you gonna get railed by any uss9 or a bp50

[lilac basin]

to buff the 3 tap range fella

[cerulean musk]

Put on tactical instead

[lilac basin]

mono doesn't buff the last range only

2025 and people still don't know how attachments work

[cerulean musk]

I say its negligible

[dawn silo]

Not needed, the bsa ing value is around 27* which is statistically good enough, if you play so far away with qq9 that you have trouble with the bsa, then I‘m concerned qq9 is not for you.

[lilac basin]

it's not

[lilac basin]

wdym 20

it's like 27

which is still good

[dawn silo]

Oh my bad i said 20

Doesn‘t matter it‘s still good enough

[rigid ingot]

shut up bum

[limber bolt]

Why’s ranked game so easy today

[atomic bronze]

It isn't because qq9 has 11 taper

[limber bolt]

Also pkm hella underrated

[atomic bronze]

Lol

[atomic bronze]

Meta

[arctic pawn]

N (part 1)

[rigid ingot]

stop ☠️

[arctic pawn]

🫵🤓

[acoustic portal]

IGN: DM
Region: Middle East
Game mode: Scrim modes, Champ Rules
Room Size: 5v5
Schedule: Every Day

[rigid ingot]

#lfg-scrims stupid

[willow wave]

I'm bored someone 1v1 sniper?

[arctic pawn]

He was spamming that thing there

[acoustic portal]

What ?

[willow wave]

Or help me push to legendary?

[rigid ingot]

don't say it here

[atomic bronze]

Bro mono buffs range by like 2m. That's a lot when we are talking about such short range

[limber bolt]

Also nah seeing people I know pulling mythic type 19 first try hurts my soul

[rigid ingot]

this why Uzi better

[acoustic portal]

Yes ' im sorry

[arctic pawn]

Is no stock a must in qq10?

[cerulean musk]

3 shot range with tactical is: 14.9
3 shot range with monk is: 16.5
Thats a 1.6 meter difference (its negligible)

[atomic bronze]

Yes

[arctic pawn]

Bruh

[lilac basin]

it's not negligible when it's in cqc fella

[rigid ingot]

get a load of this guy

[lilac basin]

if it was like 40m and 41.6m

then yes it is

[atomic bronze]

16.6*

[cerulean musk]

16.5

[rigid ingot]

much needed correction

[lilac basin]

also 2nd range goes from 20m to 24m

[cerulean musk]

I can show you the ss

[cerulean musk]

21.6

[limber bolt]

Rip I never used suppressors

[cerulean musk]

Also i thought the goal was to extend the 3 tap range

[limber bolt]

Since I don’t really play snd

[rigid ingot]

[lilac basin]

prime range is till 24m

after that it's mid and that's where u wanna use the qq9?

[limber bolt]

Suppressors in other game modes kinda useless tbh

[rigid ingot]

not for camping

@atomic bronze what has the best ttk that isn't an insta kill

[limber bolt]

I don’t camp

[rigid ingot]

I do

[lilac basin]

cx9 burst if consistent

[rigid ingot]

other than that

[lilac basin]

asm10 branson if inconsistent

[rigid ingot]

other than that

[limber bolt]

Mac10

[lilac basin]

shut up juan

[rigid ingot]

never

[rigid ingot]

I wanna know!!

[lilac basin]

i can name 4 others who are faster

[cerulean musk]

And with tactical its 21.6 so a 2.4 range difference

[limber bolt]

Tbh I just type 19 and headshot

[atomic bronze]

With headshots asm10 branson at estimated ttk of 66.(6)ms

[lilac basin]

21.6 is bad

[arctic pawn]

Prime mike tysons gloves 🔥

[rigid ingot]

gloves are ass ngl

[lilac basin]

so u get free range for negligible 7% bsa loss

[cerulean musk]

Its a 2 meter difference also qq9 isnt meant for long ranges like you said

[arctic pawn]

Best ttk

[glacial vortex]

Spears too

[lilac basin]

21.6 to 24m is a lot lol

[rigid ingot]

no

[clear forum]

spear is goated

[hasty mist]

why is the mac10 so good

[rigid ingot]

spear better

[lilac basin]

same goes for 14.1m to 16.6m especially when it's cqc

[arctic pawn]

Assault knife>>>>

[hasty mist]

it’s a beam it’s so good

[atomic bronze]

Oh wait cuz it's smg right

Anyway 14.85 to 16.5 is a ~7.7% increase in range and for cqc that's decently big..... considering theres no cons for that

[rigid ingot]

it isn't

[hasty mist]

merk 10

[clear forum]

assault knife is ass imo

[rigid ingot]

perc 10

[glacial vortex]

It was ig, is it still meta?

[hasty mist]

banana10

[rigid ingot]

never

[hasty mist]

nope

[arctic pawn]

Its not for killing enemies bro

[atomic bronze]

24m is close mid range, not long range 😭

[limber bolt]

Ngl I simply would rather another attachment in sacrifice of the slight range

[atomic bronze]

Hell hell hell nah

[glacial vortex]

MX9 craze was something

[limber bolt]

Like stability

[lilac basin]

there is nothing better

[arctic pawn]

Just do max ads qq10, feels way better

[rigid ingot]

what's best off meta smg

[atomic bronze]

There is no other attachment, you must use a suppressor so it's either tactical or monolithical and in this case.mono wins

[limber bolt]

Oh suppressor battle?

Yea mono any other day

[arctic pawn]

Always the better rangle vins

[atomic bronze]

Almost always but yeah

[limber bolt]

But I never use suppressor so I’m sacrificing it for another grip

Or a perk

[cerulean musk]

What the 4 tap ttk for qq10? Compared to 3 tap?

[atomic bronze]

That's your issue

[arctic pawn]

In some cases, tac is a must

[limber bolt]

Or maybe a sight

[atomic bronze]

240ms

[lilac basin]

160ms vs 240ms

[atomic bronze]

Agr ig?

[lilac basin]

yeah like hbr

[cerulean musk]

Thats a big difference

[dawn silo]

Not Cordite?

[lilac basin]

@atomic bronze fella why is bp honorable mention

[atomic bronze]

16.5m 160ms
24m 240ms

Is rly good ttk profile

[atomic bronze]

What

[glacial vortex]

Qq9?

[lilac basin]

cygnoux

video

[lilac basin]

that ain't off meta

[cerulean musk]

I guess you would need mono even if its a 7% bsa debuff

[dawn silo]

Qq9 is very meta

[glacial vortex]

Fr 😭

[lilac basin]

shoot circle at 25m with mono and tac

[dawn silo]

Cordite > Pdw

[glacial vortex]

I agree

[cerulean musk]

Like rn?

[glacial vortex]

Cordite is lmg with mag

[limber bolt]

Mono is only beneficial if there’s a 20+% increase in range

[lilac basin]

sure

[atomic bronze]

But like even with bsa debuff, the bsa is sufficent

Cuz 11 taper

[cerulean musk]

Taper?

Low taper fade

[atomic bronze]

Yes

[lilac basin]

low taper fade

[cerulean musk]

Wlwkehejwolwdjjd

[lilac basin]

@atomic bronze answer me

why is bp50 honorable mention

[glacial vortex]

Man o war is toxic

[atomic bronze]

Idk I didn't even watch the vid

[lilac basin]

watch ittt

[glacial vortex]

Bp 50 too

[lilac basin]

he put groza and qxr above bp

[atomic bronze]

I'm listening to The College Dropout rn

So no time I'm sorry

[glossy verge]

peak

[atomic bronze]

Huh

[tranquil light]

[hasty mist]

you listen to music on youtube?

[atomic bronze]

Ordering is dumb, top 10s are impossible, I will repeat this till end of time

[atomic bronze]

Yes why?

Youtube music

[lilac basin]

no bp50 is Honorable mention

[hasty mist]

still

[lilac basin]

not even top 10

[glossy verge]

Having to put a 30 mag on the thing to compensate for the nerf ain't it

[atomic bronze]

What

[cerulean musk]

Instead ima give you the bsa stats
tactical:
27(19.3)
Mono:
29.1(20.8)

[lilac basin]

nobody is putting a 30r mag

[hasty mist]

normally people have youtube to watch videos not music

[lilac basin]

basically unnoticeable difference

[hasty mist]

like music videos are valid

[lilac basin]

i watch music in youtube

peak

[hasty mist]

but music itself idk man

[glossy verge]

den yall lost

[lilac basin]

30r is S+ tier in SnD and 60r is still S tier in respawns

[glossy verge]

I used the 60 mag and it don't hit the same long range

[lilac basin]

so yeah bp50 is top 10

[atomic bronze]

Youtube music revanced is free spotify premium but with way better discography and better features overall

[atomic bronze]

Oh hell nah

[lilac basin]

i have 2 months free premium

[atomic bronze]

60r is mid asf

[cerulean musk]

Uss9 clears bp60r

[atomic bronze]

Tell me you never used yt music without telling me you never used yt music

[glossy verge]

It does now

[hasty mist]

idk i’ve been apple music and spotify for 4 years

[atomic bronze]

The fact I can unironicly say Agr>bp60 is funny

[glossy verge]

the uss9 is acc annoying doe

[atomic bronze]

@hasty mist .

[glossy verge]

getting 2 tapped with that thing

[cerulean musk]

“Unironicly”

[atomic bronze]

Yes

Im on discord

Idc

[lilac basin]

dandadandadnadandadnadandndan

[cerulean musk]

Devs finna nerf uss9 head multi

I would be happy 😃

[atomic bronze]

,,Please bro give me that dundundudund, aw please man"

[clear forum]

ehhh idk unless u can aim uss is kinda mid

[fleet grotto]

bp60 is funny

[clear forum]

might just be me tho

[fleet grotto]

????

[clear forum]

idk it feels different on me

am i just terrible or something

[atomic bronze]

😐

[fleet grotto]

im straight up fiddling everyone with uss9 bro 💀 that thing is no joke

[lilac basin]

yes you are

[cerulean musk]

Yes its just you this is what happens when you play with mg42 for so long

[clear forum]

lmfao

[cerulean musk]

You cant play low fire rate guns

[old nimbus]

anyone wanna play br

[hasty mist]

too late i already have playlist and wrapped history

[clear forum]

tbf im grindin tec9 with super fast attachs

[atomic bronze]

Wait you on apple or android?

[hasty mist]

apple

[glossy verge]

No

[fleet grotto]

i wish i had android

[atomic bronze]

Nvm then

You can't use it either way

[hasty mist]

i also have pc so spotify works best for me

[glossy verge]

its not mid gng

Its broken rn

[fleet grotto]

you can get spotify prem apks

[clear forum]

idk when i played it it dont feel like a broken gun

[hasty mist]

you using hacked apk for music ?

[atomic bronze]

It's meta not broken

[fleet grotto]

you using the best build?

[clear forum]

idek if im being honest

[hasty mist]

it got patched on apple late 2019

[fleet grotto]

💔

[glossy verge]

Same thing

[atomic bronze]

For yt in general

I use revanced

[fleet grotto]

this is why android is lowk goated

[atomic bronze]

It is def not

[clear forum]

frfr

[fleet grotto]

what do u use

[lilac basin]

Xiaomi 14 fella

[clear forum]

i forgor

[cerulean musk]

Dont react to your own msg 💔💔

[clear forum]

it just not mah type of gun thats all

[atomic bronze]

I geniunly couldn't use apple just cuz of revanced

[hasty mist]

what gun

[glossy verge]

alr mb

[clear forum]

i like fast bois

[hasty mist]

so ffar?

[cerulean musk]

“Alr mb” does it again 💔

[clear forum]

yes

[hasty mist]

nice

[clear forum]

mastery on it

[glossy verge]

💔

[clear forum]

also mythic

[lilac basin]

[clear forum]

got lucky in 2 draws

[fleet grotto]

so you like fast firing guns

[clear forum]

yes

[dawn silo]

@atomic bronze I remember when I picked up ffar first time in br and I shredded a whole team with it, was ffar good back then in br?

[limber bolt]

😡

[cerulean musk]

Oden

[clear forum]

mg ffar those stuffs

[limber bolt]

Die

[clear forum]

mid imo

[fleet grotto]

Bruh

[clear forum]

i cant aim

[cerulean musk]

Obviously since you like fast fire rate

[fleet grotto]

my jaw dropped honestly

[hasty mist]

why is the uzi so ass cuh @willow wave @clear forum

[clear forum]

its 2 shot but i cant aim

[glossy verge]

Yh stick to the mac 10

[atomic bronze]

When

[clear forum]

i dont even use banan 😭😭😭

[cerulean musk]

Do not use JAK ‼️❌❌

[limber bolt]

Jak nerf when

[hasty mist]

i’m employed no clue what you just typed

[limber bolt]

I hate dragons breath

[cerulean musk]

Its still good

[glossy verge]

It don't need a nerf

[cerulean musk]

Also i didnt know you played br

[fleet grotto]

jakite is poo

[dawn silo]

Ffar was very very new, it was when the mythic ffar came out

[limber bolt]

It needs to be deleted

[glossy verge]

Employed in a codm server . What is u doing twin

[atomic bronze]

Bro my memory ain't that insane

[dawn silo]

Yeah but sadly outgunned

[dawn silo]

Oke

[hasty mist]

if jack12 needs to get deleted can we add striker45 and iso to the list

[atomic bronze]

Dragon breath ain't even beyt mag on it

[clear forum]

iso underrated as hell ngl

[atomic bronze]

It's mid either way

[atomic bronze]

A worst smg simply can't be underrated

[clear forum]

its stable n shake-friendly

can aim with it thats for sure

[waxen mason]

Iso feels hella weird...hate that ironsight tbh

[limber bolt]

Wait until nuketown hardpoint and someone holds the house with it

[cerulean musk]

Yeah but you can try a strafe build to atleast put up a fight

[clear forum]

errr... maybe its because its fast idk

[dawn silo]

True dat

[atomic bronze]

Again worst smg

[flat dune]

Back then the only decent sniper support was T25 so yeah

[clear forum]

not really

[cerulean musk]

• gold lat mod and a speed class

[clear forum]

how can you say so

[cerulean musk]

And you’re unstoppable

[dawn silo]

Yay mimir, btw how‘s ffar doing as of right now in br?

[flat dune]

Kinda meh

[cerulean musk]

Dont say meh 😭

[dawn silo]

Sad, I think it probably lacks range right?

[cerulean musk]

Its good i swear

[flat dune]

Its gimmick is that you can use the AV barrel

[quartz swift]

I'm not sure if they told you this already, but fmj mag itself is pretty mediocre for walls
If you wanna go with mg42 route and put disable + 13mm mag sure go ahead.

The only thing raal has to offer to this meta is it's strong fmj

[hasty mist]

you right forgor my place
💀 100 🙏 100

[flat dune]

The issue is that vehicles aren't that big of a threat to make you want to sacrifice a good weapon for it

[glossy verge]

yh u know better

[atomic bronze]

Because it's worse than every other smg

If you didn't know what worst means

[clear forum]

what makes you say that

[quartz swift]

why not we increase raal damage to vehicles by 300% in secret

[atomic bronze]

Because every other smg is better than it in at least one way

[clear forum]

and?

[flat dune]

That would be hilarious but also really annoying

[dawn silo]

Yeah,

[glossy verge]

Vehicle damage is acc pointless in mp

[quartz swift]

Br players won't use it

[dawn silo]

You say that‘s hilarious but when I say give oden 115ms fire interval you are mad at me 😔

[clear forum]

say that to bruhs camping next to vehicles

[atomic bronze]

So it's worst smg in the game

[flat dune]

Yeah because 115ms Oden is mad busted and really stupid

This one is just a gimmick stat

[quartz swift]

If it keeps the damage profile*

[glossy verge]

just use a contact grenade or sum

[clear forum]

can u back it numbers man'

[cerulean musk]

You take dmg after exiting a moving vehicle

[clear forum]

lmao true dat

[dawn silo]

😔

[atomic bronze]

Yes

Try namin a worse smg

[atomic bronze]

😟

[clear forum]

i havent played with every smg how should i know

[atomic bronze]

115ms oden is diabolical

[cerulean musk]

If you want to do something called a “cin bounce” then you have to get a teammate and make them hit you with a hover bike

[quartz swift]

That would be very funny

[dawn silo]

Yeah but

[cerulean musk]

You will go flying

[dawn silo]

That would be fun

[dawn silo]

Thank you

[atomic bronze]

Still name any smg. Literally any

[glossy verge]

Striker 45 or wtv its called

[clear forum]

you da stat nerd u should be able to back it

[hasty mist]

mac10

[quartz swift]

Nah man
It's basically uss9 with recoil and hates legs

[waxen mason]

Yes.

[flat dune]

But not fun to play against
Imagine the 3 tap TTK
Infinite 230ms in MP

That is not ok

[glossy verge]

Ain't it do burst shots or am i trippin

[atomic bronze]

I already told you it's bottom tier in every way imaginable. If you want me to prove it with an example name literally any smg

[cerulean musk]

It doesn’t work all the time

[dawn silo]

Okay yeah ur right

[clear forum]

idk like rus

[cerulean musk]

And you will most likely get damaged

[dawn silo]

Okay fine I want mg42 br meta back

[clear forum]

flashlight attachement real goat

[cerulean musk]

NO!

[clear forum]

actual laser sight that is

[waxen mason]

Rus is goated🧐

[flat dune]

Imagine getting crossmapped by TTK slightly faster than T19 point blank

[quartz swift]

Should've been on chicom the gun has a flashlight model

But the devs are very stupid

[flat dune]

Let's not go there

[clear forum]

fr missed opportunity

[dawn silo]

Okay fine sorry

[cerulean musk]

Inglish moment

First “unironicly” and now this

[clear forum]

waitin

[atomic bronze]

200ms vs 204ms
4.43m/s strafe vs 3.8m/s strafe
20.1m vs 12m range
1.02s reload vs 1.38s reload
4.4s mag vs 3.332s mag

Wrong fight striker 45 is an a tier smg

[clear forum]

wb rus man

[dawn silo]

@lilac basin Look weapon layouts finally a logical br qq9

[cerulean musk]

45 over 30r?

The slow fire rate isnt that hard to control

[dawn silo]

in br yes

[hasty mist]

you finna say burst is viable too

[cerulean musk]

30r>

You get better dmg multi

[dawn silo]

Okay and may I ask what your arguments are?

[cerulean musk]

Pair it with gold long range mod

[cerulean musk]

30 is better

[dawn silo]

That doesn‘t make it better than 9mm

[halcyon violet]

Burst what

[dawn silo]

Top tier

[hasty mist]

striker has burst

[atomic bronze]

234ms vs 204ms
25m vs 12m
4.6m/s vs 3.8m/s strafe
6.44m/s vs 6.4m/s sprint
3.822s mag vs 3.332s mag
1.58s reload vs 1.33s reload

They are completely different playstyles but regardless rus is better for its playstyle than rus is what its

[atomic bronze]

Yes 30r is better but harder to use

[cerulean musk]

Exactly

[dawn silo]

You shush

Wrong

[earnest hull]

yo guys how does dome works

[clear forum]

ehhh i dont really understand nnumbers

[earnest hull]

like i mean how do you get points

[lethal hawk]

What dome

[clear forum]

iso still underrated tbh

[earnest hull]

domination

[clear forum]

even if i dont use it

[dawn silo]

Idk why people skull the message no right to do that

[lethal hawk]

U capture those beacons a b and c
U get points for each second it's held by ur team

[dawn silo]

@atomic bronze from 1-10 how much can I annoy you right now?

[earnest hull]

so you don't have to be in the a,b and c after capturing it

[lethal hawk]

No

[lethal hawk]

Once captured u defend it

[elfin elk]

@dawn silo Check #weapon-layouts you will love it

[atomic bronze]

200ms vs 204ms
10m vs 12m range
4.53m/s vs 3.8m/s strafe
6.84m/s vs 6.4m/s sprint
2.6s mag vs 3.332s mag
1.09s reload vs 1.33s reload

So what we gonna sacrifice a lot of mobiluty for some mag size?

[elfin elk]

Its in the top

[atomic bronze]

Bro worst smg simply can't be underrated

[clear forum]

surely it isnt the worst

[dawn silo]

The Cbr4 makes me wanna get high

[atomic bronze]

But it is

[earnest hull]

so if you capture a and b you will get 2 point/ secound

[atomic bronze]

Wanna give it another try?

[elfin elk]

Yet it's op

[clear forum]

still dont believe it

[dawn silo]

Yes!!!!!

[clear forum]

and no numbers dont make sense

[atomic bronze]

Okay, give it another try, we can do this till tommorrow and every smg will come out as better than iso

[elfin elk]

Im so high with it

[dawn silo]

I actually wanna get high now

[cerulean musk]

Even pharoah?

[atomic bronze]

Average ttk
Trash range
Below average mobility
Bad mag

[lethal hawk]

1 for each beacon

[cerulean musk]

Iso isnt the WORST

[clear forum]

even after attachments?

surely it has game

[hasty mist]

eh

[earnest hull]

thank you

[lethal hawk]

[hasty mist]

agr some cheeks

[earnest hull]

[atomic bronze]

Yes

[atomic bronze]

Agr a tier

[dawn silo]

Pharo is unironically good

[clear forum]

i find it hard to believe tbh

[earnest hull]

yo super what gun is the best for hardpoint

[atomic bronze]

Yes it's just wildly consistent

[cerulean musk]

Oh thats how you spell it

[atomic bronze]

I mean when you think about it yes it is

[dawn silo]

Pharoah 😭

[atomic bronze]

Bro what smg do you think is worst

Cuz only one can be

[clear forum]

idek tbh

[cerulean musk]

There was a skin called that

[atomic bronze]

And that's iso

[atomic bronze]

I KNOW

Its iso

[clear forum]

its just hard to believe

[cerulean musk]

Nah pharo is worse tbh

[hasty mist]

there’s gotta be worse

[earnest hull]

@atomic bronze ?

[atomic bronze]

Cuz?

[clear forum]

bro came out and hes already terrible 😭😭😭😭

[atomic bronze]

Lag is same

It's only getting proper treatment next season

Lag is top 3 worst ar rn

[earnest hull]

what is top 1

[cerulean musk]

Top 1 is bk57

[clear forum]

cant say the same to uss or like bp or mg or tec kinda insane tbh

[atomic bronze]

Again playstyle

[atomic bronze]

Then hvk is top 2

[clear forum]

they did iso dirty

[earnest hull]

passive or aggro

both

[cerulean musk]

Top 4 is drh

[atomic bronze]

By top 3 i meant it's amongst 3 worst ars which is lag m4 and grau in no order

[atomic bronze]

But like there isn't

[clear forum]

grau isnt bad doe

[dawn silo]

Eh

[earnest hull]

hm

[atomic bronze]

It isn't bad it's worst

[clear forum]

it has decent aim i think

[atomic bronze]

Decent what?

[cerulean musk]

You are getting on his nerves 😭

[earnest hull]

fr lol

[clear forum]

and if im being honest im not even capping

[dawn silo]

No Supergri has good nerves

[atomic bronze]

Yes

[hasty mist]

grau is noob friendly

[atomic bronze]

Tru

[dawn silo]

I already got on his nerves so much nobody can make him crashout

[clear forum]

thats what im saying

[earnest hull]

but bro is breaking the limits

[dawn silo]

[atomic bronze]

You ain't even close to some of my friends

[atomic bronze]

Not even close

[dawn silo]

Yeah because we‘re not irl friends

[earnest hull]

damn W super

[clear forum]

okay, r u guys krm or hso

[dawn silo]

Hso

[cerulean musk]

Striker

[atomic bronze]

Hs0

[clear forum]

YESSS lesgoo

[earnest hull]

[atomic bronze]

You esp couldn't do it irl, you'll be the one annoyed by the end

[polar jetty]

Ha I deleted the gane

[clear forum]

i am happy we can agree on something

[cerulean musk]

Krm is br tbh

*in

Over hs0

[earnest hull]

fr lol

[clear forum]

just that mah bp is kinda big and its blocking my view sometimes

[atomic bronze]

Hell hell hell nah

[cerulean musk]

Hs0 range is garbage now

[dawn silo]

Nuh, I would punch you if you were my close friend, and I would always jump on you, that‘s what I do to my bsf, how will I be the annoyed one?

[hasty mist]

I know you saw that horrrible p9p build with a tac scope on #weapon-layouts @atomic bronze

[atomic bronze]

You mean happy you can finally agree with facts

[cerulean musk]

I still love it though

[earnest hull]

lol

[cerulean musk]

Its still my fav sg

[dawn silo]

Yessss

[cerulean musk]

Especially the mobility build

[atomic bronze]

18m is far from garbage

[limber bolt]

Mk2 best sniper in game

[silent path]

@atomic bronze most optimal build for hbr, an aggressive one please

[earnest hull]

for passive and aggro lol

[clear forum]

well i dont even know whats facts and opinions

[cerulean musk]

Krm has far more range

[halcyon violet]

Wrong, NA-45

[cerulean musk]

Its impressive

[clear forum]

not even a sniper 😭😭😭

[hasty mist]

yea idk why gri doesn’t agree with this

[dawn silo]

But can Krm 1 tap through kinetic? I don‘t think so

[hasty mist]

KRM is so obnoxious in br

[cerulean musk]

Classes exist

[atomic bronze]

I mean if we are talking 1 shot it's 0 vs 18m lol

But effective is iirc 9m vs 18m

[cerulean musk]

Use schockwave

Igniter

[atomic bronze]

Two times less range

[cerulean musk]

Something

[hasty mist]

ravenger

[atomic bronze]

Most optimal build is main ar build though

[clear forum]

bro is all numbers i cant understand it lmao

[halcyon violet]

flashbacks to Shockwave/R9 bug

[dawn silo]

Hso = Good enough range, won‘t be concerned that you won‘t 1 tap through kinetic, no need for class help
Krm = better range, need help from class, has more range than needed

if you go past 18 meters with shotgun eh

[cerulean musk]

[atomic bronze]

😟

[cerulean musk]

Thats where things get spicy

Plus krm has 900 ms interval

Compared to 1.289

[atomic bronze]

That's still 900ms ttk vs 0

[cerulean musk]

Above 18m

[clear forum]

is dlq really that washed now

[cerulean musk]

Krm wins

[atomic bronze]

Both suck ass

[clear forum]

i swear it was the gun back then

[atomic bronze]

Yes

[cerulean musk]

Also if a hs0 player misses one shot then hes dead

Bc if 1.28ms

[clear forum]

tundra a real killer tbf

[cerulean musk]

Seconds i mean

[dawn silo]

Hso won‘t 1 tap through kinetic after 18 meters
Krm won‘t 1 tap through it ever

Both are dead if they miss 2 times

[clear forum]

still too terrible to use locus doe

[cerulean musk]

By15 is even better than krm at close range but yall not ready for that convo

[atomic bronze]

It is

[dawn silo]

It keeps getting worse

[atomic bronze]

Hs0405>>>>>by15>krm

[clear forum]

oh actually wb argus?

[cerulean musk]

But compare the 2 shot ttk

And its krm for the win

[clear forum]

after a few weeks of it coming out nobodys been using it

[flat dune]

733ms vs 1000ms

[atomic bronze]

But either way krm has to hit two shots so on avg your pv on krm will be 50% higher

[dawn silo]

I only pull out shotgun if the enemy is max 10 meters away from me so I couldn‘t care lass about the 2 shot ttk

[cerulean musk]

By15 is 700 krm is 900

[atomic bronze]

Why when hs0 doesn't 2 tap

[cerulean musk]

Above 18m

[atomic bronze]

Iirc krm is 1000m

[cerulean musk]

Its 900

[flat dune]

You might want to check again

[atomic bronze]

You don't wanna use ANY shotgun past 18m are you dumb

[fervent plume]

why are you using a shotgun at 18+ m

[dawn silo]

Who uses shotgun at that range??!?!?!?!,!?!,!!

[cerulean musk]

I do

You got a problem?

[atomic bronze]

Bro there is a reason shotgun support is a thing

[atomic bronze]

So that answers my question

[clear forum]

yoo 😭😭😭😭 wb argus

[native stream]

How do you use a shotgun at all

[clear forum]

is it bad

[native stream]

[flat dune]

The worst single fire option in BR

[clear forum]

i play mp

[cerulean musk]

For ground loot by15>argus>r9

[dawn silo]

Aim at the center of the player, upper body is the best
Stomach Chest area
and click the shoot button and send him back to the lobby

[atomic bronze]

Trash

[atomic bronze]

Broken

[atomic bronze]

Argus>r9 is diabolical

[clear forum]

argus mp is broken??

[atomic bronze]

Yesh

[dawn silo]

Shotgun Sniper

[clear forum]

ye

but i havent seen peeps runnin it

must be high skill high reward typa thing

[dawn silo]

Peeps don‘t use shotguns on long range

[cerulean musk]

F** auto/burst shotguns

No skill

[clear forum]

well wb buckshot?

[dawn silo]

Buck what?

[lilac basin]

@dawn silo well well

[clear forum]

the ammo that makes shotguns one bullet

smh

[dawn silo]

👉🏻👈🏻

[atomic bronze]

At least they aren't trash like krm and argussy

[dawn silo]

Never heard of it, only thing I know is that argus is long range good

[cerulean musk]

By15 733 krm 1000 hs0 1.211

[halcyon violet]

Tbf it takes skill to get a kill with explosive jak

[cerulean musk]

Krm is trash?

[halcyon violet]

Slugs

[clear forum]

Like the ammo attachment???

[dawn silo]

Ohhhhh xdd

[atomic bronze]

Idiot thats slugs

Buck shot is when it ISNT one bullet but rather multiple pelllets

[dawn silo]

😭

[atomic bronze]

In br? Yeah

[dawn silo]

Be nice Gri

[clear forum]

Got em mixed up smh

[halcyon violet]

They're all buckshot by default

[lilac basin]

slugs

[clear forum]

My bad

[halcyon violet]

A few have slugs

Hs2 has birdshot

[cerulean musk]

Ofc slugs is trash

[clear forum]

Ye wb slug

[lilac basin]

I still don't understand it

[median shore]

Krm is used by many pro players in the tournaments. so how is it trash?

[atomic bronze]

Yes thermjak takes skill in henrral

[cerulean musk]

Krm is king

[dawn silo]

Hs2 birdshot > Hs0 > By15 > Krm

[cerulean musk]

Hs0 is too slow

[clear forum]

L

If u can aim u dont need speed

[atomic bronze]

Do I look like I care what pros use? They don't know anything about game anyway they use ak117

But yeah it's trash because 2 tap with 1s fire interval is criminal

[clear forum]

Wait whats better 117 or ffar?

[cerulean musk]

Better than 2.422 interval

[atomic bronze]

But if you miss one shot on hs0 and you miss one shot on krm hs0 still wins by far

[cerulean musk]

And krm has more range

No

[clear forum]

Ive used 117 throughout the past b4 really using ffar idk which is better tbh

[atomic bronze]

If yoh miss one shot on both? 2000ms vs 1211ms ttk

[cerulean musk]

1v1 me if you think hso is better

[atomic bronze]

Hs0 still wins by landslide

[dawn silo]

What is a 1v1 gonna prove?

[atomic bronze]

Ffar

[cerulean musk]

Krm is better

[clear forum]

Just dont miss burh 😭😭

[atomic bronze]

Wait br or mp?

[clear forum]

YESSS da goat

[clear forum]

I dont like br

[dawn silo]

No, it‘s gonna prove which player is better, you could 1v1 someone with Oden, and he uses Grau, he could beat u, does that make Grau the better gun?

[atomic bronze]

I don't know how hard it is to understand that slightly slower fire interval won't change the fact 1 shot vs 2 shot is a huge difference

[cerulean musk]

Btw do you use thunder rounds?

[fleet grotto]

br or mp

[dawn silo]

Thunder rounds king

[atomic bronze]

Of course that makes range go from 7.5m 1 tap to 18m 1 tap

[atomic bronze]

Oh mp? Then ffar=ak117

[median shore]

As long as you can aim and have gung ho equipped so enemies don't hinder your reload ak117 is a little nice weapon

[cerulean musk]

You can’t quick scope with thunder rounds 😭

No pro player uses thunder rounds

[clear forum]

Surely one has to be slightly better

[cerulean musk]

Bc it leaves you standing and vulnerable

[atomic bronze]

Ak117 is eh

Brother we are talking about br not mp 🤦‍♂️

[fleet grotto]

dont ppl hipfire with sg

[atomic bronze]

?

[cerulean musk]

Shotguns are meant to be played either by hip firing or quickscoping

[atomic bronze]

It's personal preference

[clear forum]

Oh thats cringe but aight

[cerulean musk]

Trying to quick scope with thunder rounds wont work

[atomic bronze]

Yes and with thunder rounds it's hipfire 0-7.5m and quickscoping 7.5m-18m

[cerulean musk]

And you are forced to hipfire at close range bc of slug dmg

[atomic bronze]

Below 7.5m yes

Which isn't an issue

[cerulean musk]

Nono you dont understand

[atomic bronze]

Yes

[cerulean musk]

QUICK scoping

For thunder round you have to be aimed in for a bit

[median shore]

Oh but it's also good in br if you have the right skin like say the red action skin

[dry vapor]

Anyone have a good fennec loadout? My fire rate is so slow

[silent path]

Nooo

[atomic bronze]

Ak117 is meta in mp but eh in br

[lilac basin]

when I am in a professional misinformation spreader competition and my opponent is @cerulean musk

[fleet grotto]

what

[clear forum]

What does skin have to do with performance doe it dont have a difference

[fleet grotto]

firerate isnt affected by attachments on fennec

[cerulean musk]

I can prove it lol

[atomic bronze]

Build doesn't change fire rate+fennec is one of fastest fire rates in game

[lilac basin]

no u can't

[cerulean musk]

Yes i can rn

Ill send a vid in media

[lilac basin]

why is this server so stupid

[dry vapor]

My bad I means ads time

[fleet grotto]

gri will give u good one

[dawn silo]

Mono
extended barrel
Steady stock
ext mag a
granulated

[atomic bronze]

Light stock
Monolithic suppressor
Red dot/free slot
Granulated grip
Extended mag a

[atomic bronze]

No barrel cuz he/she complains ab ads speed

[dry vapor]

Thank you!

[median shore]

It does as epic skins give you attachments

[dawn silo]

Ohhh Okee

[fleet grotto]

???

[atomic bronze]

Attachments you can use without skin lmao

[atomic bronze]

Nothing, ignore

[dawn silo]

This is one of the most epic messages I have ever seen in here LMAOO

[clear forum]

Ite

Thats mp no?

[median shore]

Not in br looting

[clear forum]

Br doesnt have attachemnt unless its like pink box

[fleet grotto]

pink box?

[atomic bronze]

Arsenal, but yes

[halcyon violet]

Explosive, not thermite

[dawn silo]

Loadout arsenal drop 😭😭😭

[clear forum]

Pink airdrop smh

[halcyon violet]

Thermite is brain dead

It takes skill for explosive

[fleet grotto]

i swear it’s red

[atomic bronze]

It doesn't work like that lmao

[clear forum]

Pretty sure its pink

[atomic bronze]

@lilac basin Say in cyg

[fleet grotto]

this is why i dont play br

[clear forum]

I dont either tbh

Chars r cool n all but it just takes too long innit

[bronze lintel]

Hi

[small vessel]

Guys did anyone notice, this season bp skins doesnt have kill effect of epic weapons in the kill feed?

[clear forum]

Huh

[median shore]

Also if you think about it epic skins give a little 🤏 change in ironsight

[bronze lintel]

Hi nes

[clear forum]

I mean its not really a big factor tbh

[median shore]

They never did

[small vessel]

They always did wdym

[dawn silo]

Ooo hello Ded long time no see how are you?

[median shore]

That's why I said little🤏

[cursive oriole]

True

[bronze lintel]

I'm good I miss Talking to you guys hbu

[dawn silo]

I‘m alright too, just fighting my addiction

[silent path]

Anyone else experiencing issues with hoardepoint?

[median shore]

I don't remember any epic skins having kill effect except that one

[clear forum]

Which one

[small vessel]

By Kill effect i means the blue thing in the kill feed

Like your name becomes blue

[bronze lintel]

What addiction

[atomic bronze]

Puff

[dawn silo]

Thc Hhc and Nicotine

[atomic bronze]

Yk they banned umbrella over here

[lethal hawk]

#codm-media still 600 away
Victim of sbmm

[median shore]

The pharo - mirage skin

[dawn silo]

Umbrella? Help me out

I‘m tired and confused

[cerulean musk]

@atomic bronze @lilac basin check media

[clear forum]

Idk what that skin looks like

[atomic bronze]

The vape brand

[atomic bronze]

🤦‍♂️

[dawn silo]

Ohhhh

[fleet grotto]

u vape?

[cerulean musk]

That ammount of time you have to be scoped in is crucial in a close corner battle

Since everyone in br has adhd and wont stop moving

[dawn silo]

I don‘t vape anymore luckily

[atomic bronze]

No you just don't know what's quickscoping

[bronze lintel]

Ohh well I know it's hard to break an addiction hope you quit

[atomic bronze]

Nah, asthma, nes does tho

[fleet grotto]

W

[cerulean musk]

Quickscoping with shotguns is different with snipers

[fleet grotto]

ayy me and u twinnin with asthma

[atomic bronze]

Welp did

[cerulean musk]

Im talking about sg

[median shore]

Though it was worth more than a mythic🤣

[atomic bronze]

The name scheme is still same, that's not quickscoping

[limber warren]

who here plays br

[cerulean musk]

But you got the point

[dawn silo]

Thank you ded I appreciate you

[cerulean musk]

You cant scope in and scope out fast

[fleet grotto]

decent amount of ppl

[cerulean musk]

You have to wait a bit for thunder rounds to load

[fleet grotto]

ask @willow wave he’s a BR nerd

[limber warren]

i forgot to add that also use 4 fingers to play it

[atomic bronze]

You can, just that blankscope doesn't extend the range

[limber warren]

Cuz I need layout

[fleet grotto]

do u use 4 in mp?

[dawn silo]

❤️

[limber warren]

Yeah I magically just got better w it and im morw comfortsble w it

so i want to jse the same on br

[fleet grotto]

muscle memory 🔥

[fleet grotto]

copy the layout over