codm-discussion-💫

[quartz swift]

Perhaps i looked like a generic ranked warrior for a few seconds there

Still, do you think in a regular ranked match, we went up against each other, who would win?

I’m pretty good at supporting my team

[leaden verge]

you are playing 1v1 ?

[quartz swift]

I did and got smoked

Was hella fun though

I notice something in particular about that 1v1

[fervent plume]

you, since im garbage in ranked i havent reached leggy in 2 years now

[quartz swift]

When you catch me in a thin middle lane, you always get me

[fervent plume]

i noticed that you shoot immediately after sliding so i tried to time mine with yours so with the ping desync it would be just enough to make you miss

[quartz swift]

I just cannot play snipers and have that crazy movement, i’m more used to using the movement of the weapon in hand

[solemn night]

Bro I just did a ninja defuse on a 4v4 😭😭😭

[leaden verge]

I might desync terribly honestly

[quartz swift]

during a melee switch you attain the fastest possible mobility in the game for a few seconds

[quartz swift]

No i actually did not desync my aim genuinely sucked

[wicked stirrup]

If @quartz swift used his domain expansion, it would cause @fervent plume some trouble

But would @fervent plume lose?

Nah, @fervent plume'd win

[quartz swift]

LMFAO

[fervent plume]

i got timed out for saying the word that describes pulling back the bolt of a sniper after the shot

[wicked stirrup]

Cawk

[quartz swift]

The language

[wicked stirrup]

[fervent plume]

cawk indeed

[fervent plume]

😭

[quartz swift]

It’s the same word for the front seat of the Air plane

[wicked stirrup]

Cawkpit

[fervent plume]

i dont melee switch often usually its when i miss a shot in mid range and reposition

in cqc i usually always just slide without switching

[quartz swift]

I do that regardless

I am just too used to my full auto flexibles

From that 1v1, without context

[wicked stirrup]

I only swap when i know i'd losw if i didnt, aka cqc blankscoping

[quartz swift]

I look like a generic crybaby

[fervent plume]

facing tundras and hdr's are the worst for me

[leaden verge]

i am interested to do 1v1 in global

[wicked stirrup]

And i have renetti as my secondary

[leaden verge]

i might desync terribly tho

[quartz swift]

But honestly i thought you’d love tundra

[fervent plume]

my aim is wet garbage with the orange colored juice dripping out of it rn

[quartz swift]

I thought it quite literally suited your style

[fervent plume]

i do love it, i just dont use it in 1v1s because its just way too overpowered, easily outclasses any other sniper

[quartz swift]

I don’t think it matters that much, unless you are using ar and they use tundra

It doesn’t really matter in a sniper vs sniper scenario

Tundra is good directly because of the advantage it has against full autos

[fervent plume]

it does it does, in a cqc situation when you're both doing a lotta movement to avoid shots, that extra ads speed and fire rate helps out the tundra a lot

its also got negligible hit flinch and 6 seconds of sway countdown

[quartz swift]

Oh hell

Tundra is actually overpowered

[indigo pasture]

even in real games it’s broken

[quartz swift]

And the only reason I don’t see it often

Is because actual snipers are too egocentric to try it

[indigo pasture]

if you don’t have a tundra you’ll always lose the first pick to someone with it

[fervent plume]

i'd say tundra is a bit advanced so most locus and dlq mains cant use it to its fullest

[quartz swift]

If you put it that way

[upbeat merlin]

me who just uses ARs in respawns

[quartz swift]

Maybe black-ops gunsmith messed them up

[tired flame]

same

i just play tdm in ranked

[quartz swift]

Here i got smoked in a 1v1 to say that

Hella fun though

Gg’s to @fervent plume

[upbeat merlin]

1v1s don't rlly mean anything tbh

they're fun tho

[quartz swift]

You understand!

[tired flame]

fr

[fervent plume]

real

[quartz swift]

Do i love to do 1v1s? Absolutely when i feel like it

[fervent plume]

it doesnt mean anything but they sure are fun

[quartz swift]

But doing it with salty randoms because i was the MVP of a pub/ranked? Get outta here

[fervent plume]

im curious though, why did you mention no shipment

[quartz swift]

Too linear, really easy to spawntrap

[fervent plume]

i'd say killhouse is far more broken if you know how to use angles and scoreboard

[indigo pasture]

1v1s determine who’s more skilled to a certain extent

especially like killhouse

[quartz swift]

Killhouse allows for some really cool footage

[fervent plume]

thats true

[indigo pasture]

shipment though you can just read spawns and cook someone like 6 times in a row

[quartz swift]

That certain extent is individual skill

[indigo pasture]

sounding and walking don’t take skill

[quartz swift]

It doesn’t directly relate to game sense or team support or general performance

[indigo pasture]

individual gun skill though does

[leaden verge]

I am not good at shipment 1v1 because i dont do spawntrap that much

[fervent plume]

killhouse is more of a who's more accurate with a straight shot and shipment is more of a game sense + accuracy imo

[quartz swift]

Same, hate shipment with all my heart ❤️ (seriously, unless a no scorestreak mode comes back it’s below crash and terminal in my list)

[fervent plume]

but its wraps if the person knows spawns in killhouse

[leaden verge]

@fervent plume well want to go 1v1 ?

AR ?

[fervent plume]

map?

[leaden verge]

Killhous

[fervent plume]

hmm alright

ar on killhouse? interesting

[indigo pasture]

killhouse is more to see who has better aim

[leaden verge]

Or Nuketown perhaps ?

[indigo pasture]

shipment is just to see who actually has decent game sense

[fervent plume]

im fine with any 3

[leaden verge]

@fervent plume add me Officer.FBI

[fervent plume]

done

idek what ars to use gimme some suggestions

[willow wave]

Asm10

[fervent plume]

alright

[willow wave]

Do u hav the space station one?

[fervent plume]

nah no custom irons

[willow wave]

?

[fervent plume]

??

[willow wave]

My asm 10 build is in the #weapon-layouts

[fervent plume]

ggs

[leaden verge]

@fervent plume gg

now i see your problem is with your gamestyle

[fervent plume]

just rush man

this is a 1v1 not a scrim

[leaden verge]

Well it was practicing a game sense

Your aim is really good but the problem is when you rush, you hesitated so much when i am that low health

if you are going to rush without thinking, it will all be useless to move man

[gentle magnet]

What’s a good ots 9 build

[fervent plume]

thats alright, but play a 1v1 like its a 1v1

[leaden verge]

i am playing 1v1 like it is 1v1, what do you mean ?

[quartz swift]

I haven’t figured out that gun, just take my build with a grain of salt

[leaden verge]

oh you mean you want to go full head on 1v1 ?

like full rush style ?

[fervent plume]

staying on headglitches most of the time is usually considered disrespectful in a 1v1 no matter what weapons

[leaden verge]

Never heard of that rule

[quartz swift]

OTs 9-1B2C4D8B9A

[fervent plume]

its not a hard and fast rule

[quartz swift]

Best i can come up with

[fervent plume]

its just something everyone follows without saying

[gentle magnet]

Ok thank you

[quartz swift]

OTS doesn’t get the magic of black ops attachments

[leaden verge]

As far as i know, i am not aware of those rules. It might exist on your region

[fervent plume]

what region are you from

[leaden verge]

Southeast Asia

[fervent plume]

garena?

[leaden verge]

mhm

[willow wave]

Anyone wanna play ranked snd

Im master 1

[fervent plume]

people on global usually avoid headglitches in 1v1s since its usually very difficult to counter for the enemies

its not said, but people just know it

[leaden verge]

honestly i am okay with headglitching, it is kind of a simulation of going against passive obj in hardpoint

[gentle magnet]

What’s a good marksman gun

[fervent plume]

yeah u gotta leave that playstyle in 1v1s, your enemies would def cuss you out for doing that since its considered dirty in 1v1s

oh well im okay with it anyways

[quartz swift]

Sks

[leaden verge]

alright, thanks for the input

[quartz swift]

Or if you don’t like that

SPR or MK2

Preferably mk2

[quartz swift]

I was planning to do the exact approach you went with

Actually using a 1v1 to simulate a real match

I do it with a lot of people who ask me to 1v1

Unless they make it clear they don’t want that

[gentle magnet]

What about kilo

Is that good?

[fervent plume]

i thought everyone knew not to do it

[quartz swift]

Ehh, statistically better, just the animations are iffy and the sway hurts on it most

[fervent plume]

i prefer kilo and spr over sks, never really use sks that often

[quartz swift]

Now to be real

I used the semi auto type 19

[fervent plume]

is it any good

never used it

[quartz swift]

Amazing performance, feels like m21

Slightly faster, effective range is 36m

Second range is around 75m, which can one tap to the head

Of course SKS is better but man it did not disappoint

[leaden verge]

Maybe in garena lobby, we may use headglitch. It is not that disrespectful to us.

i think it might be the reason why they can headglitch to simulate the real head on 1v1

it also trains their aim

and additionally, they train their gamesense

"where does my enemy usually rush ? which angle?"

[icy valve]

Kilo is good 👀

[forest swallow]

fake

[gentle magnet]

Best locus build

[serene breach]

Use tundra or dlq

[gentle magnet]

But I already do

[willow wave]

Just give bro what he asked for instead of suggesting things

[gentle magnet]

I don’t like the tundra the dlq is eh to me I just wanna snipe

[serene breach]

No

[willow wave]

Stopping power, fmj/suppressor, then everything for ADS speed decrease.

[willow wave]

Then respectfully shut up and spend your time not advising others

[gentle magnet]

Thank you 😊

[serene breach]

No

[gentle magnet]

The tundra to me is horrible I don’t like it

[willow wave]

I got it to master then went back to dlq. I like it but it’s just not as satisfying

[gentle magnet]

Fr I didn’t get it to master I just didn’t like it

I just wanna try out snipers

[willow wave]

lol. I got it diamond too. I loved it. Have you tried it since the recent changes? Or recent ish.. few weeks ago now probably

[gentle magnet]

I have not actually

[willow wave]

Try it again if you want, it shoots where you aim now which is nice.

[icy valve]

Maybe check #weapon-layouts if you don’t get a clear answer from anyone

[gentle magnet]

Ok but there’s like 2 people with alot of trolling locus loadout

[fervent plume]

ykm light short
owc skele stock
stippled tape
stopping power reload
fmj /owc laser

[fathom siren]

Guys will anybody take me in their team

[icy valve]

Clan?

[fathom siren]

I will leave my current clan and join yours

[forest swallow]

You can join my clan

[icy valve]

Sure

[forest swallow]

Pretty active and clan war based

[fathom siren]

Bro then add me

Wait I have to remove my streamer mode

[forest swallow]

You'll need to wait 24 hours after leaving clan to join

[icy valve]

@forest swallow How do you get people to join ur clan? I have one but it’s just me in it

[forest swallow]

Ask them?

[icy valve]

Yea but who’s them?

[forest swallow]

lol join my clan instead we are like 4 week old and pro iv already

[forest swallow]

clanless people?

[icy valve]

Where do you find clanless people

[forest swallow]

bruh

[fathom siren]

Ya

Guys can anybody friend me

[forest swallow]

6904536429180420097

[unkempt geode]

Do people genuinely like NukeTown or are they just mentally ill

[fathom siren]

My id is AFxSniperGod

[icy valve]

They genuinely like nuketown

[unkempt geode]

So they're still mentally ill

[icy valve]

Sure whatever you say

[fathom siren]

Is this ur id

@forest swallow

[forest swallow]

yes

[fathom siren]

Ok I am sending u a request

[small pivot]

Why is the Ink mythic so expensive😭

[icy valve]

Welcome to codm

[small pivot]

I watched a video to see how expensive it was and i bought the amount of cod points they spent

Now im 3500 coins short

And im out of money since im 16

[icy valve]

It increases after every roll

Dam

[small pivot]

Ik but one guy spent 5k

So i got 5k but for me its 7k

[fathom siren]

I have sent you the request

@forest swallow

[small pivot]

I shouldve thrown the money into the water

[forest swallow]

Okay I'll accept it when I get on

[fathom siren]

Ok

[small pivot]

Not on this expensive pay 2 win bullsh

[icy valve]

Did you at least get anything kind of good?

[small pivot]

No

I only wanted the gun

[icy valve]

What did you get

[fathom siren]

Will anybody do 1v1 sniper and check my game

[small pivot]

I got everything but the gun

I got the character skin (yay…)

[fathom siren]

And tell me what are my mistakes

[icy valve]

Kinda useless without the gun

[fathom siren]

So I can fix them

[small pivot]

Ik

Ayo anyone wanna gift 5.5 k cod points lol

Bullshi

[granite cypress]

I want 5.5k

[fathom siren]

I also

[granite cypress]

Thats 50€

💀

[icy valve]

50 cents 👀

[granite cypress]

I wish

[icy valve]

🤣

[granite cypress]

Im brok

⚰️

[small pivot]

💀

[fathom siren]

What is the best load out for dlq

[small pivot]

I swear 7k cod points for nothing so

Robux wouldve been better than this lol

[icy valve]

You gotta play around to find what suits you best

[willow wave]

Just make sure the ads time is as low as possible. The laser, suppressor, fmj, magazine, are pretty much interchangeable

[trail prawn]

I'm sick and tired of matchmaking throwing me in team of bots that can't shoot while opposite team has more players and bots that just ONE TAP ME DAMIT

literally WHY

SkIlL iSsUe DuR

eDuRrRr

[devout steppe]

Sbmm

[trail prawn]

sbmm sucks

[tired flame]

hey jahy

[trail prawn]

it doesn't even work for me

why I get thrown vs way higher skill players and MORE THAN 3 VS ME when I don't even have players in my team to begin with

this is down right idiotic

[devout steppe]

Halo shadow

[leaden verge]

skill issue

[devout steppe]

Sbmm doin it's work

[trail prawn]

I will feed you sunshine and rainbows until you implode you little sack of fun

[leaden verge]

Thanks

[trail prawn]

You're welcome

[leaden verge]

sounds enticing enough lol

[tired flame]

hru

[leaden verge]

well Ranked Legend Lobby is ass anyway

[trail prawn]

You telling me a pub has Sbmm

God what world we live in

[leaden verge]

the usual enemy i will meet is compe player, and the rest of my teammates are human bots, they arent that skillful.

[tired flame]

fr

[devout steppe]

I'm fine hbu

[tired flame]

im ok tyfa

[devout steppe]

[trail prawn]

My bots aren't even human it's down right single digit code AI that doesn't fire a single time

when opposite team has aimbot bots that just one tap me the second I run out

it's not even funny

if I want to fight aimbot bots I'll go back to tf2

[willow wave]

Yeah it sucks but can’t change it so no point complaining about it

[trail prawn]

Unless you know someone that works for Activision.. which I do

[solemn night]

Imagine 1 kill away from ace and a bot gets u heady

[trail prawn]

yea and it's not even burst shot it's literally just single bullet
BAP and yre gone

I don't even get killed that fast by players

[solemn night]

Fr but at least it’s free points

[halcyon violet]

Sorry, can't

[trail prawn]

I also hate bots that just stare at you while you reload and second you can fire they just NOPE headshot you with one tap

[jade tulip]

Any clans that are 18+ ? All I can find is clans ran by kids

[willow wave]

I cant log in in facebook account

It says its already in use

[steady steppe]

rip

[willow wave]

What should i do

I had huge progress

Try a different device if you have one. Or if they’re connected, login through somewhere else. If you have your personal ID, the one hidden in settings, message support. You need to be able to prove it’s yours if you do that though

[vast wolf]

That cordite bum took my MVP:/ @forest swallow

[willow wave]

Where do i see personal ID

I haven’t been playing for a long time

[vast wolf]

They were a good team though

[forest swallow]

real

real

I choked so hard while planting lmak

imma try sniping now on 120ms

[vast wolf]

[willow wave]

dam you got skil

[marsh chasm]

#codm-media I sent my multi player stats

Anyone can rate?

[willow wave]

no offence but what is that k/d

and in 10 000 games you only got 1500 kills

[forest swallow]

i give that a 1/0.1

[willow wave]

thats crazy

[marsh chasm]

Wdym

Kd doesnt equal to skill

[willow wave]

dawg but how have you only got 1500 kills

[marsh chasm]

[willow wave]

you played 10,000 matches

[marsh chasm]

Yes?

[willow wave]

you play snd a lot?

[willow wave]

the math doesnt work out

[marsh chasm]

But amount of kills dont equal to skill

[willow wave]

lmfao

[forest swallow]

Yeah real

@willow wave you should 1v1 @marsh chasm

[marsh chasm]

No

[willow wave]

are you obj player?

[marsh chasm]

I can yes

[willow wave]

nah im not askin if you can

do you play like that tho

[vast wolf]

I'm decent

Right now I'm terrible lol

[willow wave]

cap

[vast wolf]

Keep misclicking and dying

[marsh chasm]

I can I said means I do play like that but sometimes are unable too

[willow wave]

new hud?

[forest swallow]

cap you sweaty

[willow wave]

oohh thats one reason behind those stats then

[marsh chasm]

I guess???

[forest swallow]

I made the guy rage quit with my contact nade lmao

[willow wave]

people who use contact nades are douche bags

[vast wolf]

I was missing shots left 'n right

[forest swallow]

@vast wolf Ill be back in 10mins gotta eat lunch

[vast wolf]

No worries man

[forest swallow]

you run a game till then

[forest swallow]

what about tomahawks

[halcyon glen]

[cunning finch]

It take skill to master such a weapon

[vast wolf]

My aimmm

[willow wave]

you earned my respect then

[vast wolf]

Thank you sir

[vast wolf]

[devout steppe]

Aru reject me

[kindred prairie]

Taco Tuesday

[marsh chasm]

?

[devout steppe]

It's been pending for like an year now

Disc req

Reject it plz

[marsh chasm]

I have like 900 friend requests

There you go

[devout steppe]

Dam

Damn

[forest swallow]

what's thug shake

[forest swallow]

You should watch azure's tomahawk clips

[devout steppe]

Dis

[forest swallow]

OH

naah man that's wild

[devout steppe]

[forest swallow]

I saw a pc guys channel and its comments are all about him to do that

wild 💀

[devout steppe]

[marsh chasm]

I saw people on youtube playing the game on pc

And they are horrible

[oblique oracle]

How to do the slide cancel?

[indigo pasture]

slide then tap ur ads really quick

or you slide and tap ur ads plus shoot button

if you have that on

[leaden verge]

i got red magic cast, this is going to be great

[steady steppe]

nice stats man

[marsh chasm]

Thanks

[celest flume]

Later I can

Who is F2p in codm??

[tender tangle]

If I don't use the skins I buy am I still f2p

Since I'm not p2w

Because I don't use them to have an advantage

[devout steppe]

Me

[willow wave]

I'm done

[atomic bronze]

Why

[willow wave]

😭

[willow wave]

how's this season?

in fn

[atomic bronze]

Ch5 is kinda mid imo

[willow wave]

if compared to last one?

[brazen mica]

Hiii

What

Is

Going

On

Nah but really type19 or grau?

[atomic bronze]

Nth compares to og. Bv has replaced bloom which is definetly interesting. Snipers are still op as it seems

[brazen mica]

I got both mythic. Should've got an smg

[atomic bronze]

T19

[brazen mica]

Lolll

Sweet

[tender tangle]

Anyone here decent at editing?

[brazen mica]

And m13 :((

[willow wave]

dang ik nothing about fn

[brazen mica]

I went all out. I should've got the fennec

[atomic bronze]

Lol mobile fn gameplay is kinda crazy

[willow wave]

lol what

[brazen mica]

I have qq9 in legendary but meh

It's not as good as the newer one. The sight on that thing is crazy

[tender tangle]

I remember dropping 32 kills and no deaths in ranked tdm with the qq9

Fun times

[brazen mica]

Qq9 is my fav

[tender tangle]

Cx9 is mine

[brazen mica]

I love that thing

[twilit mist]

Hi

[brazen mica]

Smgs or Ars?

[tender tangle]

Smgs

[twilit mist]

Ar

[brazen mica]

Sameeee 😭

[twilit mist]

Depends most of the time

[brazen mica]

And I went a bit overboard with the ars

[tender tangle]

Ars I'll only use if I need to. Its like playing on easy mode. I like to keep to my srs and smgs tho

[atomic bronze]

Cx9 best smg most likely rn

[willow wave]

real

[tender tangle]

Fr

[willow wave]

24 GB update 😭

[brazen mica]

Absolutely

[tender tangle]

Finally people who agree

[brazen mica]

Update?

[tender tangle]

I thought I was the only cx9 enjoyer about

[brazen mica]

I'm going back to use my qq9

I'm too peasant to upload photos

But it's diamond

[willow wave]

ive been yaping about it for days here

[brazen mica]

The one with the wolf kill effect

Forget what it's called lol

[tender tangle]

Search up in this channel from my user about the cx9

[brazen mica]

I have 25 or so. Memory is cooked sometimes

[willow wave]

too lazy but i trust you 👍

[brazen mica]

Yaa

[willow wave]

with burst mag right?

[brazen mica]

Burst mag?

Extended mag

Mono suppressor

[atomic bronze]

People generally dont know much about meta

[brazen mica]

No stock, owc

Andddd

[atomic bronze]

Cx9 has burst mag with stupidly quick ttk

[atomic bronze]

Qq9? It doesnt have owc iirc

[brazen mica]

Yeah it's probably better

[willow wave]

cx9 isn't the best smg without that burst mag

[brazen mica]

I haven't used it

[atomic bronze]

Yes it is bruh

[brazen mica]

I've played since like a month in

[willow wave]

fennec better

[brazen mica]

Stopped for a bit

Yeah

[atomic bronze]

Both extremely close but cx9 has the edge due to stomach

[atomic bronze]

What gun are you talking ab?

[brazen mica]

Qq9. Lemme check my build lol

[atomic bronze]

Its recon tac long not owc

[brazen mica]

Yeah recon tac

Mono suppressor, owc, extended mag,

And granulated grip

Sorry no stock

I've been hotting the ars too much lately

[atomic bronze]

You should try 10mm

[brazen mica]

Bought the hvk also. Far out

[atomic bronze]

Well for a reason as flex is more valued then niche playstyles

[brazen mica]

I forgot

[atomic bronze]

Good. Best gun in the game tbh

[brazen mica]

Yeah haha

28 bullets tho

But sick gun

On the build I'm using anyway

[atomic bronze]

Skill issue

[brazen mica]

Me? Nah haha

[atomic bronze]

From analysis we did 10mm is better but harder to use

[brazen mica]

I go from using the grau or type 19 to that

And the reloads

Are a little annoying

Hectic I'm lvl 5

10mm?

On qq9?

[atomic bronze]

Yes

[brazen mica]

Ill give it an ackcray

Counting on you

[atomic bronze]

Ackcray hmmmm

[atomic bronze]

It can 3 shot consistently if you aim upper body

[brazen mica]

Crack

Ill give it a crack as in I'll give it a go

Sweet

I have a clan if anyone is interested

Can I post now?

I'm blind

Can someone help me find clan recruitment please

[glacial trout]

#clan-recruiting

[brazen mica]

Legend

Cheers brother

Why does the bot post them all?

Does anyone know how to get a clan recruitment published I guess the word is

[tender tangle]

#codm-media

[plush zealot]

Check the pin section.

[brazen mica]

Thank you mate, appreciate it

[tender tangle]

Wassuh

[mossy forum]

@cunning finch pretty sure it’s gonna be on April 30th

[shy vessel]

Hello, so I started to play codm again, can y'all recommend some nice guns I could use?

[fervent plume]

nail gun

[fossil adder]

DR-H

[shy vessel]

Is it good or just fun

[shy vessel]

Any builds?

[willow wave]

ak117 for br

[devout steppe]

Fret not over the whispers of others, indulge your own desires with impunity

[tender tangle]

Unlock the grau

[quartz pebble]

🔥

[tender tangle]

Will make your life easier

[devout steppe]

[plush zealot]

D13

[fervent plume]

you are def aaki

[fossil adder]

Tac suppressor, owc ranger, no stock, 25rd OTM, granulated grip tape

[willow wave]

this is the best gun

[devout steppe]

Ikr

[tender tangle]

We should 1v1 later

[quartz pebble]

Sure

[tender tangle]

Locus

Actually let me get dressed I wanna do it now

[devout steppe]

Ouu

[willow wave]

guys what the best smg

[fossil adder]

Its interesting that pros still use drh even after the otm mag ban

[tender tangle]

Cx9

[willow wave]

alr better than fennec?

[tender tangle]

Yes

[fossil adder]

GKS is a sleeper pick

[fervent plume]

1v1?

[tender tangle]

What gun

[plush zealot]

Fr? Haven't tested without the mag yet.

[fervent plume]

u decide tho im comfy with snipers the most

[devout steppe]

Fret not over the whispers of others, indulge your own desires with impunity

[plush zealot]

The dmg improve like 2-3 with OTM, right?

[willow wave]

i just find the GKS ugly so i dont use it sorry😔

[tender tangle]

Alr. Mind I'm not a 1v1 player. Mp main. I js do this for the quick scope practice

[willow wave]

i'll try it tho

[fossil adder]

I tested 30rd extended mag with marksman barrel, still has a decent 3 tap potential

[safe tangle]

utterly stupid move

[willow wave]

u got a specific build?

[fervent plume]

me neither dw

[tender tangle]

My build is not one most people can use

[willow wave]

ah ok

[tender tangle]

But if you'd life to challenge yourself I can send it to you

[willow wave]

btw cx9 ironsight is good?

[tender tangle]

Like*

[devout steppe]

[tender tangle]

I don't use it

[fossil adder]

There could be something more behind it

[safe tangle]

Ak47 is a drh clone with 5 ms worse fire rate and far better accuracy and double the mag size
Pros are just stupid and blind ig
And em2 exists
Drh non otm has a chest upper body 3 shot till 29 m only

[devout steppe]

Yuh izz pretty gud

[willow wave]

yea sure if its good

[tender tangle]

🤨

[fervent plume]

😭 i dont

[fossil adder]

Like surely the pro players would just go back to grau

[tender tangle]

Dms

[fervent plume]

i'll send room code

[fossil adder]

But they still use drh

[tender tangle]

Drh is a 2 shot kill

[safe tangle]

It's blocky as hell
Bp cx9 is seggs tho

[tender tangle]

Faster you can kill someone the betyer

Better

[safe tangle]

another stupid move

[fossil adder]

Why is it a stupid move?

[quartz pebble]

Carry please?

[devout steppe]

I find da sights pretty butiful

[fervent plume]

2183125254

@tender tangle

[plush zealot]

Normally they use whatever has the fastest TTK so ofc they'll use it over AK.

[safe tangle]

They recoil stack the grau(pointless)
Use rds(pointless)
And use it with tac archangel and use it as a main ar(worst playstyle to use grau as)
Grau has one good build which is at best off meta
And it's mostly for slight flex playstyle
And nobody uses it in rank or comp

[quartz pebble]

You ain't even grouped

[tender tangle]

Woah I'm not even dressed yet 😂

[safe tangle]

1 frame faster ttk
Brother you can just change the dynamic by moving a bit

[manic wren]

do you guys use HVK or DRH more often

[safe tangle]

Hvk

[fervent plume]

locus

[devout steppe]

Fret not over the whispers of others, indulge your own desires with impunity

[tender tangle]

Locus dlq and tundra are the only snipers I'm willing to use

[fervent plume]

hey, grammar said that, no credit?

[fossil adder]

DRH, I dont like how the hvk looks

[devout steppe]

I'm stealin

[safe tangle]

Dlq is borderline crap
And koshka exists so why locus

[zenith plinth]

I'm being robbed.

[devout steppe]

Real

[tender tangle]

It's decent. And I like their feel

[fossil adder]

Locus has real wall penetration with fmj

Koshka only has that fake armor piercer mag

[safe tangle]

If decent means
Just being better than ebr and svd then I guess you can call dlq decent

[safe tangle]

Dlq ,locus,koshka have same wall penetration assuming dlq and locus using fmj
Armor piercer is needed anyway what's the issue

[devout steppe]

Rytec's not better Dan dlq ,no?

[safe tangle]

It is
Same ads speed
But it's semi auto and less flinch and better breath hold

Mag can be managed easily

[tender tangle]

Imo it doesn't matter whats the best. Matters how you use it

[fervent plume]

aim you dressed up yet

[tender tangle]

Getting trousers on

[safe tangle]

With snipers if you don't ads fast enough,ur weapon sways too soon or you're super slow meaning you can't maneuver as well and ur flinch is bad
That directly hinders snipers a lot
So stats for snipers matter more than for other weapons

[tender tangle]

That's why I don't use Arctic

[safe tangle]

Arctic has same ads speed as dlq

[tender tangle]

But I feel more comfortable aiming with dlq. Hit my shots more often on range

[safe tangle]

Rytec,arctic,dlq,locus sp same ads speed without lasers

[tender tangle]

For quick scope I use locus and tundra

Never long range tundra bc I hate it

[devout steppe]

Tundra is very gud man

[safe tangle]

With lasers
Arctic is 1 F slower than all cuz it doesn't have laser attachment

[devout steppe]

Feels so easy to use

[tender tangle]

Til you shoot their leg and get domed

[safe tangle]

That's true for everything

[fervent plume]

thats the same with most snipers

[plush zealot]

That goes with every snipers tbh

[safe tangle]

Except zrg and hdr

[devout steppe]

Yes

[fossil adder]

All meta snipers dont one shot legs

[tender tangle]

Rytec rah

[fervent plume]

zrg with anti cat

[plush zealot]

HDR is one shot close range

[safe tangle]

And ig explosion or thermite mags for rytec

[fervent plume]

ye

[plush zealot]

People hardly use it anyway

[tender tangle]

My friend is global rytec. Her clips look clean

[safe tangle]

People underrate hdr sayin zrg has 100 m + full body
When hdr has like 44 meter + iirc and that covers all your range fights pretty much .
And hdr has a lot more bullets ,way better flinch and wallbang

[fossil adder]

@safe tangle I personally think recoil stacking on Grau is still reasonable since that gun doesnt have the best bsa

[tender tangle]

Ight sync I'm dressed

[fervent plume]

2183125254

[safe tangle]

So why recoil stack lol
Bsa stacking on the gun is pointless
Max it gets turns it into lmg mobility with 21 meters of 4 shot on pro builds lmao
Lower than Agr 556 at 23 meters
Why build a gun meant for flex to be passive

[atomic bronze]

Boost bsa then

[atomic bronze]

Bro grau is just a wierd gun anyway

[safe tangle]

Why bsa stack either lol

[atomic bronze]

I was sarcastic

[fossil adder]

Because you can still play flex reasonably with passive

[safe tangle]

Like it's 19 bsa on zibros' grau is fine for flex

[safe tangle]

No???

[fervent plume]

@tender tangle gun?

[atomic bronze]

Stacking recoil on grau is one of the dumbest things ive heard

[safe tangle]

Have you seen a flex ul736

Ever

[atomic bronze]

And you cant play grau passive since bad range

[tender tangle]

First round locus?

[safe tangle]

Pre silencer barrel release

[atomic bronze]

In cdom black yes

[fervent plume]

alrigjt

[safe tangle]

Cuz that's grau passive mobility

[tender tangle]

Fgo btw

Just got out of bed haha

[fervent plume]

fgo?

[fossil adder]

They still use extended barrel anyways

[safe tangle]

@atomic bronze

[safe tangle]

Grau is that slow on pro builds
That's not good for passive

[fossil adder]

Passive Grau's biggest advantage over passive UL or Kilo is ADS time

[atomic bronze]

But dlq has 3ms slower ads than locus😭😭. Jokes aside 1ms means it will almost always be same ads speed but it will be 1f slower on rare occasions

[safe tangle]

I wanted to make a monkey joke but that would be too racist given server name

[fossil adder]

I know you guys always say ads time doesnt matter, or just pre aim etc

[atomic bronze]

Codm black has a lb ul736 player and he played it flex since forever

[safe tangle]

No?
It's like 340 ms
Which is bad lol
And kilo versatile has way more range than passive grau

[fossil adder]

But for a flex playstyle ads time can make or break the gun

[atomic bronze]

And its boggest disadvantage is the bad range

[fossil adder]

Isnt it like 280s?

[fossil adder]

50m is good enough

[safe tangle]

That's for flex grau's
Pro gunsmiths have really crap ads speed

[astral depot]

Daily Quiz
Which one of these skins Does NOT have a kill count screen.

1. FR. 556 - Superhighway
2. HVK-30 - Maximum Security
3. Dingo - Scarlet Oracle
4. RazorBack - Necessary Diplomacy

[atomic bronze]

🤦‍♂️

[safe tangle]

Oh god be realistic

[fossil adder]

Dont pros use tac supp + archangel + Strikelite/no stock?

[atomic bronze]

Yes which is dumb

[devout steppe]

Fret not over the whispers of others, indulge your own desires with impunity

[astral depot]

What?

[safe tangle]

Would you recoil stack a gun with easiest recoil .
When
It's 4 shot is 21 meters (lower than smgs) and kilo on flex build is 33 m
And then it's 5 shot is 50 m
So does kilo
But grau has bullet velocity which isn't even the best

[safe tangle]

No
They use bloody
Tac, archangel,gran,60 round ,rds

And I have seen a couple with ranger foregrip

[atomic bronze]

Yea 4 shot range is mid asf on grau

[fossil adder]

Ah 60 round mag

Thats why

[warm grail]

daily reminder you can set off the na45 explosion round with an emp nade

[fossil adder]

With 50 round that build goes down to 296ms

[safe tangle]

The build you mentioned is ranked staple which is a worse kilo anyway
Zibros' grau is a worse pk but it's recoil being miles better but mobility being near pk and big mag makes it usable as a worse option

[atomic bronze]

Remove rds ads speed is same

[safe tangle]

Still disgustingly bad for flex
When kilo is 250 ms

[atomic bronze]

Yea

[safe tangle]

And 60 round mag doesn't even do crap lol
It's 3 percent ads

The ranger foregrips etc are the kicker

[fossil adder]

I personally prefer 270 ms flex kilo

[atomic bronze]

And that is?

[fossil adder]

Its just using marksman over extended light

Cause the recoil on the faster mobility build can mess me up sometimes

[safe tangle]

Tac marksman over mono extented is fine
Like cuz marksman is wayy better recoil just a bit less range

[leaden verge]

carry me please 😦

[safe tangle]

Extended recoil is purely vertical too but it's climb is a bit quick

[leaden verge]

i am pro

i need to go to master

[weary haven]

yoo wsg

[quartz pebble]

1v1 anyone?

[weary haven]

any updates on codm?

[devout steppe]

Fret not over the whispers of others, indulge your own desires with impunity

[weary haven]

is pp19 and qq9 still good smgs?

[fossil adder]

Grau's biggest strength is still 243ms ttk on first range

I think thats why pros were using it

[safe tangle]

Both meta

[quartz pebble]

Nail gun better

[devout steppe]

Kun come

To gen chat

[leaden verge]

speak american english,

[devout steppe]

Dey 1v1 ing sum1

[weary haven]

what abt any melee or pistols?

[atomic bronze]

After that it goes to crap

[fossil adder]

243ms ttk that is extremely easy to land

[safe tangle]

No?
The 246 ms ttk is crap against smgs
Still loses
And ak117 has faster ttk
The new t19 and old pdw also has faster ttk

[fossil adder]

And 3 shot potential if you hit headshots

[safe tangle]

Ak117 exists lol

[fossil adder]

AK117 I feel is not used purely because it has no 3 tap

[atomic bronze]

21 meters isnt a lot makiing no sense since you cant counter smgs or anything rly az that range

[atomic bronze]

Didnt you already provide this argument when i argued with you ab how grau is mid?

[safe tangle]

It's 3 tap is as consistent as the grau as in unless you land headshots it doesn't happen

[fossil adder]

Still you barely encounter any gunfights over Grau's total effective range anyways

[safe tangle]

20 meters?

[fossil adder]

AK117 is actually impossible to 3 shot

[indigo pasture]

that’s the point

[fossil adder]

Even with headshots you still need 4 hits for AK117

[safe tangle]

Must be lower head multi than kilo then lol

But doesn't even matter

[atomic bronze]

Yea it does 32.5 to hed

[indigo pasture]

what region

[safe tangle]

You need like 2 head for kilo iirc

[safe tangle]

For 3 tap
Useless

[fervent plume]

ggs aim

[fossil adder]

Or 3 upper chest, though I personally feel consistently landing upper chest is harder than getting 2 heads

[safe tangle]

Krig ,m16,lk needs one for first range iirc

[weary haven]

mythic krig better then normal krig right?

[fervent plume]

i was using only no scopes

[tender tangle]

Gg

[safe tangle]

Krig needs 1 head 2 chest
Kilo is pretty much useless infront of krig

[tender tangle]

Yeah I noticed

[safe tangle]

Yes

[tender tangle]

I kept cancelling my scopes on accident

[fervent plume]

wdym

[tender tangle]

Press scope button twice instead of once

[weary haven]

any map updates or anything added?

[fossil adder]

Ok Marksman barrel + normal ammo DRH still 3 taps upper body up to 24m

[fervent plume]

you use tap to ads?

[atomic bronze]

3 tap grau requires two head

[tender tangle]

Sometimes

[plush zealot]

Your acc must be sub 10 tbh

[tender tangle]

It's situational

[plush zealot]

That's wild

[fossil adder]

Upper and lower arms included

[atomic bronze]

Just use ak47 and em2 at that point

[fossil adder]

So there is no nuance

[safe tangle]

As I said same as kilo
Ak117 still craps all over it lol

[fervent plume]

it probably was since no scopes are horrible

[fossil adder]

Unless you really land all feet shots

[tender tangle]

Happy to even get 10 kills there. Your choice of next gun

[fervent plume]

crossbow?

[tender tangle]

I've never used it

[fervent plume]

with the normal arrow

[tender tangle]

Not sure I have it

[fervent plume]

aight then tundra ig

[fossil adder]

Krig has other issues that make me not want to use it

[tender tangle]

Alr

[safe tangle]

Em2 from 20-37 m has same hitbox has non otm mag drh in its prime range
2 chest/full arms

[atomic bronze]

Headshots i still think are not enough of a reason for using grau over ak117

[fossil adder]

If you dont hit the important body parts for krig your ttk worsens so much

[fervent plume]

i will not be using only no scopes this game mind you

[fossil adder]

EM2 does have to account for bullet speed though

[atomic bronze]

Past 31 meters

[rotund sable]

Braindead recoil is enough reason already

• made by skill issue gang

[atomic bronze]

Its 2f toll 38 meters sooo

[fossil adder]

In first range krig has 284ms ttk compared to Kilo's 264ms without multis

[safe tangle]

This is specifically mythic
Bullet velocity is a non factor till 48 meters
31 m vs 33 m krig vs kilo 4 tap respectively
But 1 chest shot makes krig 4 tap to 48 m
They have same mobility
Kilo 1 percent faster mostly everywhere and krig has better flinch and taper

[safe tangle]

264 vs 276
1 frame

[dawn silo]

Eww Michi

[rotund sable]

"specifically mythic"

I'm leaving

[safe tangle]

2 frames is impossible for naked eye to notice on 50 ms or lower consistent ping
And that's till 39 meters

[fossil adder]

I still feel like im killing too slow with krig sometimes

Maybe its just a thing with slower firerate guns

[dawn silo]

#Buff Krig (Doesn‘t need a buff but still)

[safe tangle]

It just has worse ads speed
Mythic is just needed or use rds

[atomic bronze]

So 1 frame

[dawn silo]

Dlq > Tundra

[safe tangle]

The difference in ttk is like drh vs ak

1 F

[fossil adder]

I mean AR pros completely ditched the Kilo during stage 5 for that 1 frame

[atomic bronze]

So?

[devout steppe]

Monkeys gallore

[safe tangle]

Pros are dumber than a bag of hammers
Using operator foregrip on sx9

[indigo pasture]

aka zai

[dawn silo]

No dlq better

[safe tangle]

And that sx9 is used in comp at all lol
Especially more than either Qq9 mags lol

[dawn silo]

Because yes

[indigo pasture]

no one else was running that build in the west

[devout steppe]

Indeed

[raw mauve]

Oh heya, Castellanos, Dark.

[safe tangle]

Hey Benji

[indigo pasture]

how’s it going benji

[quartz pebble]

Zai goat

[dawn silo]

@safe tangle Tundra worst sniper

[raw mauve]

Good! Had an amazing day since yesterday!

[safe tangle]

Fennec ,Qq9,cx9 >>> sx9 like
People stoopid

[raw mauve]

Just yesterday ^^

[fossil adder]

Actually yeah I dont see a lot of QQ9 in comp

[safe tangle]

Sx9 stats are extremely horrible except bsa on tac extended

And strafe

[fossil adder]

The mythic QQ9 has good ironsights though but they still dont use it even with access to esports version

[dawn silo]

@atomic bronze Best smg for range fights?

[indigo pasture]

qq9 is really good i just don’t use it because of how it feels

id rather fennec or cx9

or switch

[dawn silo]

I don‘t like QQ9 it feels not smooth

[safe tangle]

I prefer fennec,cx9 or qq10 mm over 45

Qq10 is wayy smoother

[dawn silo]

[fossil adder]

Well switchblade is def a ranked warrior gun

[indigo pasture]

cause mythic fennec is insane

[safe tangle]

Like why are people using sx9
Like
Horrible range
Horrible hitbox
Horrible aim shake
Horrible potentials

[fossil adder]

People just want to chall long range even with smgs ig

[safe tangle]

Only that it's fast strafe ig

[dawn silo]

Buff switchblade

[safe tangle]

Like who are you challenging with that 6-7 shot when you bs about "mid range fights"

[indigo pasture]

switch is really that bad?

[safe tangle]

Cuz that ttk loses to everything

[fervent plume]

ggs

[plush zealot]

26th shot was nice

[fossil adder]

Its true

[fervent plume]

tundra feels weird since i havent used it for so long

[fossil adder]

I would rather use FFAR at that point

[fervent plume]

which one was that

[tender tangle]

Definitely a better sniper than me. You know that map like the back of your hand 😂

[analog ore]

Mythic CX9 draw coming ?

[dawn silo]

I like the mythic idk..I‘m sad Switchblade deserves a buff

[fervent plume]

should i switch it?

[plush zealot]

Headshot spawntrap

[fervent plume]

ohh that one

[indigo pasture]

i have the mythic switch but i kinda like default better

[fossil adder]

Switchblade is inferior to Fennec up close and inferior to FFAR at midrange +

[plush zealot]

Only peaked like a millisecond lol

[fervent plume]

honestly i dont remember anything rn since im hella sleepy

[dawn silo]

Ffar slaps

[tender tangle]

You'd prolly still win with snipers on a normal map but I'm down to switch to ar or smg and a normal map

[fervent plume]

alright so reg guns on which map

[plush zealot]

Seems like the ping is balanced from there

[tender tangle]

Anything that is used in ranked

[fervent plume]

i didnt check but i didnt feel anything different

[willow wave]

wha
you 1v1'd aim!?

[safe tangle]

You can 5 shot in cqc without hitbox
11.5 m of 4 tap potential with hitbox and 12.5 with mono at best and 19-21 m 5 shot with mono
Like qq9 has 15 m 4 tap (full body)and 22 m 5 tap
Bigger mag
Slower reload , slightly slower strafe doesn't matter
Like borderline useless bsa on switchblade
25 bsa for what
Just use 27 bsa on mono
Both bsa do same under 22 meters in practical testing
And 1-2 m more range on sx9 is very noticeable

[fervent plume]

yeah but i forgot the scores

[willow wave]

😭

[fervent plume]

DJ you look like you really wanna have a go

[tender tangle]

I was quite proud of my shots

[safe tangle]

Also people are lying to themselves if they say base sx9 > mythic in shake lol

[tender tangle]

Especially as a 2 finger player

[willow wave]

remember the scorez?

[tender tangle]

He won both

[plush zealot]

@tender tangle I'm down for it, I could be an easy target for you

[tender tangle]

Wha

[willow wave]

i wanna know the scores

[fervent plume]

should i change the map to killhouse or nuketown or smtn

[plush zealot]

1v1 sniper

[tender tangle]

Can do nuketown

[indigo pasture]

nah yeah the shake is noticeable but me personally i don’t like the red dot feel of the mythic so i just run default switch

[tender tangle]

Sure after this

[plush zealot]

Okay

[fervent plume]

aighti

[indigo pasture]

same thing anyways just a skin

[willow wave]

try cage

[tender tangle]

@fervent plume did you notice how strange my playstyle is

[fossil adder]

@safe tangle what are your thoughts on Taskforce vs Takedown barrel on FFAR? Is losing upper arm multi really worth it for longer range?

[fervent plume]

not really it seemed very predictable to me

[tender tangle]

Yeah I need to brush up on tacts

[devout steppe]

Why so

[safe tangle]

Takedown all the way
6 meters more 5 tap range and bv is still good enough
Regardless
10 m potential 4 shot instead of 7 m on tfb
And both barrels need only 1 chest so arm multi unnecessary

[tender tangle]

I haven't taken the time to learn shipment and 1v1 styles

[fervent plume]

whenever you spawn you move straight, whichever direction you're facing

and you always repeek instead of reposition

[fossil adder]

How about losing bullet speed?

[indigo pasture]

people forget to change pace in 1v1s or routes

[fervent plume]

exactly

[willow wave]

damn your observation

[indigo pasture]

they’ll just do the same thing every life

[willow wave]

The multi is better for ffar.

[safe tangle]

Takedown doesn't change it tho
Only aim assist laser does
Both builds have 19 (10) bsa iirc

[dawn silo]

@tender tangle why you people use ranger on ffar, I mean 60% more bullet speed is good iirc but idk

[plush zealot]

It's been a while lol I've won my battle against the sickness

[devout steppe]

Shipment is syncs playground

[safe tangle]

It isn't
Same performance in practical play

[willow wave]

yours as well

[plush zealot]

@tender tangle ?

[fervent plume]

i like that line

[devout steppe]

[raw mauve]

Personally as a Fennec aim trainer, my Venom Coil and it have similar sights.

[fervent plume]

aim disappeared

[fervent plume]

thats great

[fossil adder]

Taskforce gives 30% bullet speed which bumps it up to 1159m/s which does make long range challs more forgiving

[tender tangle]

Was on a call

[fervent plume]

ill brb

[tender tangle]

Mb

[indigo pasture]

what are some underrated guns rn

[fervent plume]

dj i'll give you the leader

[astral depot]

Chicom
HBRa3
M21 EBR
Echo
Kilo Bolt action
Base meele
SMRS
And Finally S36

[fossil adder]

Its like grip barrel vs accurate/supportive on type 19

[fervent plume]

wait yall left the room

[willow wave]

Nope. Increases chance to require 1 bullet less. It’s better.

[fossil adder]

The bullet speed diff is very noticeable

[tender tangle]

Cx9

[quartz pebble]

What's a good accuracy?

[dawn silo]

9.11KD

[astral depot]

Yes
Times have changed

[indigo pasture]

20-25%

[willow wave]

nice pfp

[fossil adder]

Hitting your shots when it matters

[willow wave]

Snipers 40-50% per game for regular 25-30%

[dawn silo]

Thanks prek, I like yours too

[raw mauve]

Iirc, QQ9 10mm theoretically has better stats than Fennec while 45 round doesn't.

[astral depot]

Bro yea

[quartz pebble]

30 damn

[safe tangle]

Thing is
Takedown becomes 3 frames velocity delay at 30 meters
Tfb at 39 meters
But takedown has 30 meters of 5 shot vs 24 meters on task force .
I'd take 6 meters more of 66 ms better ttk than 9 meters of 17 ms better bv

[plush zealot]

He’ll be back. Here’s the room code E668ЕЕВ97Z

[willow wave]

thank you 😭

[tender tangle]

@plush zealot room code?

Oh

[plush zealot]

Nvm

[safe tangle]

It's flat out better if ur mag management is good

[plush zealot]

Apple is bugging

[tender tangle]

Paste it seperate so I can copy only that

[fossil adder]

I see, I personally value flex playstyle rather than aggressive on FFAR so I'll stick to taskforce

[willow wave]

you 1v1ing dj now?

[atomic bronze]

Pdw

[tender tangle]

Likely

[plush zealot]

@tender tangle 2468338993 apple f it up 💀

[willow wave]

I want to watch the 1v1s

[dawn silo]

what about bizon

[raw mauve]

Ye but that's like the case with HVK LCA anyway, the only difference is that HVK LCA is a requirement and not an option, unlime Kyukyunein.

[tender tangle]

Send the code in a seperate message to other text

[willow wave]

2468338993

[quartz pebble]

You're 22?

[tender tangle]

Thanks

[atomic bronze]

Pdw bet'er

[tender tangle]

Tis about time I show people I'm not a sniper main haha

[atomic bronze]

Beat me to it

[willow wave]

Ye

[atomic bronze]

Can 3 shot consistently and better 4 shot 2nd range

[willow wave]

I leave and join sometimes. No big deal lol

[safe tangle]

All tfb gives is better velocity (which is proved to be worse pro than range) and it gives horrible recoil
Takedown only con is sprint ig
So if u wanna be fast tfb is good yes

[fervent plume]

huh??

[safe tangle]

But I value range over sprint a lot

[safe tangle]

What range lol

Cuz in cqc it's same potential

1 chest

[atomic bronze]

6m of range much more valuable than 9 meters of hitscan

[willow wave]

I think all ranges

[safe tangle]

9 meters of 1 frame *

[raw mauve]

And also mobility slightly higher on Kyukyu

[safe tangle]

No?

[willow wave]

Upper arm shot

[raw mauve]

Because the weight of 45 round isn't weighed with the 10mm

[safe tangle]

Unless you're hitting all your shots on upper arm and chest together (impossible)
Then no
And I am not even sure that does it

[willow wave]

Your chance of hitting the arm and doing 1.1 is more than 0% chance. Which makes it better in that aspect

[fervent plume]

@plush zealot @tender tangle battery's low gotta go

[safe tangle]

People consider 2 chest/upper arm 4 shot luck based on guns
Let alone all chest/upper arm
Which is never a chance

[atomic bronze]

If you talking tfb, tfb multis vs base multi is barely a difference

[willow wave]

Yes. But it is there

[safe tangle]

And takedown having more range significantly
Say in 24-30 m range you did magic and lower one shot
That's still same stk as takedown cuz a lot more range ahaha

6 shot becomes 5 shot but but takedown was already 5 shotting anyway

[atomic bronze]

And not worth mentioning

[safe tangle]

That's the benefit of more range

[willow wave]

It’s rare that you’ll find yourself in that specific range anyway

[safe tangle]

No?
Ffar is versatile and that's its prime range lol
And it's cqc potential ttk is also 3 m more than tfb and same hitbox

[atomic bronze]

Ye

[willow wave]

I have a different perspective from yall. From my perspective, I’d rather just do higher objective damage

[safe tangle]

What sort of unga bunga response is that

[fossil adder]

Its like why pros still use drh after otm mag ban

[willow wave]

Consider yourself in a less egotistical way and you might understand it

[safe tangle]

Like you're talking about something which never happens

[fossil adder]

You might think its stupid but I think its reasonable

[atomic bronze]

Higher objective damage?

[fossil adder]

Still 3 shots upper body/ lower arm up to 24m with marksman barrel

[willow wave]

Hitting a shot where there’s a multiplier is higher objective damage

[fossil adder]

2 shots lower arm for 3 shot up to 24m

[willow wave]

And I almost never value range unless it’s a large increase

[atomic bronze]

It is stupid. Em2 and ak are already rivaling/better drh but without otm no question

[safe tangle]

It's an upper arm multi which never happens for more than 1 shot
Like if your shot to kill is the same but less range than the optimal build
The damage is pointless lol
25 x 4 vs 26 x 4 is still enough to kill for example lol (not ffar hitbox)

[fossil adder]

You are only losing out on the mobility OTM mag provided you by being run with Ranger barrel

[safe tangle]

25 otm is literally free ?

[atomic bronze]

Chest plus ua is incosistent, same as chest

[plush zealot]

Gg

[fervent plume]

score?