Linux Chat

[ripe stream]

the "debian=living in the woods" analogy really works here. I have little to no contact with the linux world

[tame lantern]

they gave him so many chances not to wipe his system

[ripe stream]

those are both equally horrifyingly funny

"repeat: 'i am going to kill my os'"

"yes, i am going to kill my os"

"i killed my os :("

[tame lantern]

I wonder if OpenSUSE has any protections against this like Debian does

im not to keen on needing to wait another 30 minutes for it to install its 2000 packages though

gnome kinda feels like the linux equivalent of iOS

lol

[tame lantern]

ok I've decided

I'm totally using gnome

[ripe stream]

it appears time to spool up some VMs

[ripe stream]

seems like it though I've never used ios

i moved my taskbar thingy to the bottom though lol

and set it to function with program window buttoms collecting in the bottom left etc

[tame lantern]

this is such a boring desktop wheres my taskbar with apps and way more icons than I need

[ripe stream]

nagivating with both alt+tab and 3 finger swipe feels like neuralink tho

[ripe stream]

"i need my overstimulation"

i think it was dash to panel that put it back to normal

(windows-like bottom panel)

[tame lantern]

it took me way longer than it should've to figure out how to switch it to 24 hour time

[ripe stream]

yeah the one thing I don't like abt gnome is how some settings are just missing

example - there is no stock method for changing touchpad scroll speed

( ? ? ? )

[tame lantern]

oh wow youre right

[ripe stream]

usually there's an extension or otherwise to fix it but yeah

i like how mine's rocket fast but i imagine not all hardware is the same like that

[tame lantern]

this addon looks pretty nice

[ripe stream]

pog

[tame lantern]

im sure it uses like no ram

[ripe stream]

LOL

lemme restart see what my resting ram is

[opal abyss]

I love Windows ram usage

40% of my 32gb when I'm doing literally nothing

[tame lantern]

idling ram with dash to panel enabled = steady 2.22gb
idling ram with dash to panel disabled = steady 2.24gb???

[ripe stream]

27% of 8gb. I think i also got 8gb swap so that I have plenty of warning before i OOM

[ripe stream]

LOL

that's just how good it is

[tame lantern]

its called an addon but its doing the opposite

[ripe stream]

∵ "statistically insignificant" sounds so boring

[ripe stream]

insert ramble here about "unused ram is wasted ram"

iono the specifics but I think arbitrary ram usage isn't necessarily reliable

oh and another useful tip - hit windows buttom (should bring up the search bar thingy) and start typing in restart, shutdown, etc

super fast

[tame lantern]

this is pretty sick

[ripe stream]

youarejokingme

[tame lantern]

you've never tried that?

[ripe stream]

i been needing this for waaaay too long

[ripe stream]

"beginner's luck" bro

cmon

[tame lantern]

I guess its cause im still experimenting

[ripe stream]

keep going at it lol

[tame lantern]

I like the dash to panel addon what other cool stuff do you have

[ripe stream]

gotta get u a transparent terminal and the blur desktop addon

and cool window opening closing effects

and cool drag effects

oh and the built in screenshot tool i take for granted

press prtscrn button, click drag, smash enter, and its both on my clipboard and in a file

[tame lantern]

I use the windows equivelant to it so much, I like this more though cause it can also video and select a whole application or the screen

[ripe stream]

Blur My Shell gives the blur effect (the desktop, not the terminal)

(the transparent terminal is just a setup in Tilix)

[tame lantern]

transparent terminal is a must

[ripe stream]

Burn my Windows gives the window opening/closing effect

Compiz windows effects gives the click drag effects from there too

custom OSD lets you customize and resposition the volume/brightnes indicators

i have mine conveniently pop up right over the dash lol

[tame lantern]

I love when most basic features are an extension

[ripe stream]

yeah it's a little annoying lol

but i look for some obscure functionalities and there's almost always an extension for it

transparent terminal is awesome for reading tutorials while typing lol

[tame lantern]

are you a neofetch or fastfetch kind of person

[ripe stream]

neofetch but tbh that's just what I have installed lol

[tame lantern]

yippee

[ripe stream]

• Battery Health Charging lets certain hardware set a cap on charging
• Bluetooth Quick Connect makes the bluetooth panel a bit more functional i think? beyond just functioning as on/off button
• Blur My Shell gives the blur effect (the desktop, not the terminal) (the transparent terminal is just a setup in Tilix)
• Burn my Windows gives the window opening/closing effect
• Compiz windows effects gives the click drag effects
• Custom OSD allows cusotmizing+repositioning+appearance timing of volume/brightness/etc indicators
• Desktop Icons NG ...allows click+drag desktop icons (not default??)
• Transparent Window Moving makes windows semitransparent when dragging/respositioning them

I think that's all the cosmetic ones. there are a few other obscure ones for my own things like a Tailscale button etc

[ripe stream]

not transparent. grey. boring. disgusting.

[tame lantern]

not yet

[ripe stream]

yet

[tame lantern]

Desktop Icons NG ...allows click+drag desktop icons (not default??),
???????????????????

[ripe stream]

...

gnome is kinda

quirky like that

[tame lantern]

what have I gotten myself into

[ripe stream]

yeah these are not default

[ripe stream]

you'll be stuck here forever

[tame lantern]

it does not need to be this hard to install a cursor theme

[ripe stream]

-# ...b buh but there's an extension for that too!!!

[tame lantern]

noooooooooo

[ripe stream]

i think i have a love hate relationship with gnome

actually i thought cursor theming was default

oh maybe that was part of the theming i did with desktop icons

wait no

iono

i forgor

i just have a backup that is known functional and revert to it whenever I reinstall

i forgot what stock gnome looks like

i chose the chaotic neutral approach to ricing

[tame lantern]

its here in tweaks but I need to figure out where that existing font is since there's no "open file location" or anything

[ripe stream]

I would guess it's a matter of googling the directory to that folder

I know i've added in desktop icon things like that before, i think it's similar for those kinds of things

ye u drop themes into a folder

[tame lantern]

I shouldnt have assumed the folder already exists

[ripe stream]

foolish

[tame lantern]

yay

these default wallpapers are way too minimalist

[ripe stream]

I love how understimulating gnome is sometimes

But then there's sometimes actual missing stuff lol

[tame lantern]

its funny how even LXQt is more feature rich

[ripe stream]

Lol those "minimal installation" techbros donnevenknow what they missing

[tame lantern]

this is bizarre

[ripe stream]

...fascinating

[tame lantern]

its funny how gnome is one of the heaviest DEs you can get and then it's this

[ripe stream]

R u running it on a VM?

[tame lantern]

yeah im playing with it on vbox right now

[ripe stream]

ah ok

Weird

[ripe stream]

Yeah I'm curious where its BULK is

[tame lantern]

I'll actually install it on my main system once my new SSD finally comes in, right now im just playing with it beforehand

[ripe stream]

Like is it the whole sliding desktops thing ...?

[ripe stream]

sounds like a good plan

R u gonna use it on a desktop or laptop?

I'm guessing former

[tame lantern]

probably in like a bunch of background daemons and it uses higher level languages and it being it's own whole ecosystem and stuff

[ripe stream]

Fascinating

I understand none of it

[tame lantern]

I'm gonna use it for my desktop, my laptop is what has arch, I'm finally gonna stop using gross windows ewww

[ripe stream]

not windows = me happy

customizable = me very happy

Unga bunga

[tame lantern]

✨ Open source ✨

[ripe stream]

Oh we got a whole salvation happening then

[tame lantern]

we'll see how it goes with my nvidia card

[ripe stream]

I follow the 80/20 rule and just went with the easiest Linux distro lol

[tame lantern]

It's gonna suck getting davinci resolve to work, it doesn't have a package or a flatpak or an .appimage

and 5 billion dependencies

its funny that having all the configuration for this being split between settings and tweaks and extensions and YaST, it's still more unified than windows

[ripe stream]

oh interesting

didn't realize it wasn't straightforward

but looks like there's this

[ripe stream]

lol yeah

that's what had me confused earlier, trying to remember how I did each of my customizations between extensions, Tweaks, stock gnome, manually set up stuff, etc

[agile pumice]

Wait do you have 3 finger swipe for window switching? I used gnome-gesture-improvements but it breaks upon each major version upgrade and hasn't been fixed in this latest round of updates

[agile pumice]

I would look at the AUR package and just copy its deps if you can. It seems to work fine on Arch 🤷

[ripe stream]

Not for window switching but for that whole sliding-the-desktop action... I think it's called Workspaces

I'm not familiar with gnome-gesture-improvements, I think mine was just functional when stock - I'm away from my laptop rn but I can share my gnome version or whatnot when I'm back, if that helps at all

Considering I'm on Debian, maybe I'm really slow/behind with updates or something. idunno that much lol

[next knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/barbie-doll-zoom-in-disgusting-face-disgusted-look-disgusting-meme-gif-811353253833024580

I was under the impression that not even gnome devs like gnome

[next knoll]

Never underestimate how easily a "safe OS upgrade" can nuke your entire system

Yesterday I wasted 2 hours trying to unf*ck promox's bootloader

[agile pumice]

Oh yeah never mind. That's just a native gesture

[austere creek]

it has something to do with "we rewrote explorer into a web application and it was so slow we need to keep it loaded"

and other fun things like that (swap is important)

[austere creek]

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Chillsmeit/resolve-tumbleweed/refs/heads/main/resolve-tumbleweed.sh lists all the dependencies

people that make those scripts kind of like baffle me because like

you're literally at the point where you could've just... made the package for everyone

like you literally got every part to do that

but you just didn't

[tame lantern]

I think its something to do with how blackmagic distributes the software

aand its not opening :D

it's probably more because im running in a VM than it being installed incorrectly

[austere creek]

davinci is picky over graphics cards

[agile pumice]

Yeah the AUR package makes you download the binary yourself then build the package

[granite idol]

be better

easy

[ripe stream]

LOL

[tame lantern]

linux

[ripe stream]

program exists on the hard drive
⬇️
program, when run, is so large that it needs to be kept on ram
⬇️
program uses excessive ram, out of memory
⬇️
store program in swap
⬇️
program exists on the hard drive

[ripe stream]

as one does

[austere creek]

yippee

[next knoll]

that gives me an idea
... use free VRAM as swap?

[next knoll]

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Swap_on_video_RAM

OF COURSE THERE'S AN ARCH LINUX WIKI GUIDE FOR IT

[night matrix]

What did I just walk in on 😭

[next knoll]

technically speaking, GPU VRAM is faster than an SSD...

so, you know, if you need swap... why not use GPU VRAM frist?

[night matrix]

I use windows

(unless it's possible to do that on windows too ?)

[night matrix]

Boy I do hope so, we're still talking about RAM here

[next knoll]

so do I, for most things anyway..

[keen leaf]

"Guh-nome"

[next knoll]

"ugh-nome"

[lusty marsh]

oomf switched to arch

[night matrix]

Yup
Been there

[austere creek]

if you want something that is more simpler in the way paint.net is there are other options

gimp is powerful, comes with a learning curve

pinta (seems similar), krita, inkscape, kolourpaint (more like original paint)

many more

[lusty marsh]

yeah i have pinta already

its nice that it has all of the stock filters from paint.net but what i dislike about it is that you cant resize selection that well

its Janky but alright

[odd moss]

Paint.net was my biggest loss going to Linux

[lusty marsh]

indeed

[next knoll]

gimp is not an image editor

it's a method of self-flagellation

[agile pumice]

It's... fine. Still has a terrible UI/UX though, yeah

Krita's a nice drawing program, though it's less of an image editor than GIMP

Obligatory plug for my brother's infinite canvas program (still a WIP)
https://github.com/sockeye-d/sunfish

[next knoll]

it has the UX of a program that someone dragged out of the Windows 3.11 era and fought tooth and nail to keep 3.11-like usability >.>

For those who know, Pohoda accounting software and DOS not 3.11

[agile pumice]

It's about as bad as Audacity lol

[next knoll]

I find audacity considerably easier to use, though still far from pleasant xD

[agile pumice]

I can't wait for Audacity's UI and code overhaul

[next knoll]

Audacity is undergoing a UI overhaul

yeah

[agile pumice]

I don't have much hope for GIMP becoming better, since in they're Huge Release That Upgrades Everything literally changed nothing and didn't actually fix the UX quirks it was trying to fix

[next knoll]

it needs exactly what we're doing at my work rn

a ground up overhaul

[tame lantern]

Guys I’m happy to announce that I am retiring my windows today :D

[agile pumice]

Yeah... that's not going to happen though. GIMP would need a governing body to actually plan and be able to commit to that kind of thing

[agile pumice]

Congrats!

[tame lantern]

I like what audacity is doing, that’s the right way to overhaul a UI

Damnit that’s already been mentioned

[agile pumice]

Yeah because they're actually organised and have brought in people with experience to drive development in a dedicated manner

I think their new logo is stupid though

[tame lantern]

asymmetry is not what it needs

[agile pumice]

There's been a bunch of discussion so I hope they don't go with their proposed logo

[night matrix]

This whole simplification movement is getting annoying

Give us the ugly overengineered logos back

Those have character at least

[agile pumice]

This is the only simplified one that I think might look okay

I like this wiggly one

[austere creek]

I think they should do this one

it's pretty perfect honestly

instantly recognizable and modern

[agile pumice]

Isn't that their current one?

I don't think there's anything wrong with their current logo, but I'm resigned to accepting the notion that they'll want to change the logo for their overhaul 😅

[austere creek]

totally not!

it is the brand new modern proposal

i think it will probably win, most people seem to like it

[tame lantern]

https://youtu.be/p2bbJ4ViZSI

This is like the worst Linux video I’ve ever seen

I love it

[austere creek]

mint has honestly become a massive problem due to being stuck on x11

and made it entirely a non-recommend

it's so sad

[tame lantern]

There’s plenty of great alternatives, cinnamon is a very good recommendation for people coming from windows though and there’s not really any other option for it

[austere creek]

X11 causes issues for people with fancier displays and with gaming and such, I didn't watch much of the video but I am guessing that was part of the monitor issues

[next knoll]

What I'll find eternally funny is this repeated exchange
A: X11? That's ancient and broken, you should switch to Wayland!
B: Oh, there's an alternative nowadays? Glad to hear there's something less broken than X11
A: Well - less broken .. I mean...

[tame lantern]

I kinda meant it as in “if it weren’t for X11”

It’s really annoying that they don’t use wayland

Do you think kubuntu is a good recommendation for the same people you would recommend mint to?

[austere creek]

It's really only a problem if they have that specific kind of thing going on which is annoying

[tame lantern]

bruh the OpenSUSE installer did not want to work with my nvidia card

I had to add a flag to use basic drivers instead of the open source nvidia ones it tried to use

[austere creek]

both mint and kubuntu have the ubuntu repositories as base right? so if they didn't mess either of them up then it should be fine

[tame lantern]

I once heard someone say something about repo silliness with mint but idk

[austere creek]

the little dance between use these free ones or the non-free ones is annoying lol

[austere creek]

there shall always be that transition period when massive changes like this happen especially with grumpy people around it, but wayland is moving further and further away from being in there at least

and it really is that x11 works great, apart from this set of specific things that more and more people are facing

[next knoll]

the funny thing is that wayland is not just functionally broken, it's also organizationally broken

[tame lantern]

wayland has been very good to me

It does sometimes hate certain people though

[austere creek]

somewhat? but that's what I mean, they're moving closer to patching those bridges regarding organization

a lot of the things that make wayland powerful are things that are going to make organizing and such more difficult

just needs time to simmer hopefully

[tame lantern]

Now why would the OpenSUSE automatic partitioning stuff install onto its own USB

I had some faith in It to figure out partitioning itself

[next knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-pokemon-fight-torterra-golbat-gif-17579448

[austere creek]

lol

[tame lantern]

oh ffs

[dark crag]

That was my laptop before I left on my trip. Turns out the nvme fried or something 😩

Hopefully yours is an easy fix

[tame lantern]

It was due to OpenSUSE installer not giving a big enough efi partition :/

[dark crag]

Ah that's a much easier fix (hopefully). I guess if your partitions are already full it's a pain in the ass, but if it's a fresh install that's not so bad

[ripe stream]

Meaning of life arch wiki wen

[next knoll]

A couple days ago I was updating my server's Proxmox install from v8 to v9.
They have an official guide with things to check, look out for, even a tool that does some checking.

Everything checked out.

Ran the upgrade.

Rebooted.

got stuck in a bootloop.

GRUB got nuked so hard it was causing the entire machine to hard crash the moment it loaded.

I had to chroot into it from the install drive, nuke the EFI partition and do a completely clean reinstall of everything grub-related

[tame lantern]

amazing

the Linux experience

[austere creek]

frankly just the bootloader experience

[tame lantern]

I had less issues installing arch than this..

I think nvidia is causing all my issues

I can’t get it to boot without nomodeset

ok well now I’m in with nvidia drivers but I still can’t change my resolution, yay

this is such a headache

[opal abyss]

you know what also is a headache

doing cad at 3am

[tame lantern]

I’m going to completely wipe everything and try again from the start

[austere creek]

I'm sure you've seen this but if you haven't

https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers

[tame lantern]

yeah I saw, that’s how I installed the drivers but no workie, I wonder if it’s anything related to me initially having to use nomodeset for the installation environment

[tame lantern]

oh my god please just work

[tame lantern]

I may be getting somewhere

[tame lantern]

the fedora workstation live environment is nice, I’ll probably use this instead of the arch environment for repairing stuff from now on

[tame lantern]

windows refuses to work together with OpenSUSE so I will simply give windows an entire NVMe for itself

go fuck yourself windows

[tame lantern]

I hate nvidia I hate nvidia I hate nvidia I hate nvidia I hate nvidia I hate nvidia I hate nvidia I hate nvidia I hate nvidia I hate nvidia I hate nvidia I hate nvidia

[tame lantern]

I’m going to lose it

[tame lantern]

I’ve got to be doing something wrong

[austere creek]

what're the symptoms

[tame lantern]

I fixed it, it ended up that I needed to install 1 very specific nvidia package that I have couldn’t find mentioned anywhere online

[agile pumice]

Which one?

[tame lantern]

so after 11 hours I have successfully installed Linux

nvidia-open-driver-G06-signed-kmp-default

[agile pumice]

Fun 😅

Congrats on the successful Linux install though

[tame lantern]

oh dear now there is 1 thin line of pixels now shifted from the middle to the left of my monitor

give me a break

and it’s not a repeatable thing either :(

rebooting fixed it

I hope it never happens again

gnome has way too many pre installed games

[agile pumice]

lol yeah

Arch has a minimal version of gnome without all the extra apps, idk why there are so many by default

[austere creek]

lipo

tell me it isn't so

[tame lantern]

oh no what did I do

[austere creek]

oh oops

[tame lantern]

It’s hard to imagine I would’ve scrolled past that

[austere creek]

it's still in there though

but at least you figured it out

[tame lantern]

I think I did do that actually, I wonder if the -default at the end being different might be why? Idk

[austere creek]

perhaps

such a mess lol

AMD drivers have nearly always just been one simple package and no real extra work

and I think it is the same for non-consumer NVIDIA cards

[tame lantern]

I think I have like 20 different nvidia packages at the moment

[austere creek]

the wonders of the world

you can collect them all

[tame lantern]

me and my 2000 packages

[austere creek]

but at least now you're extra super duper familiar with nvidia drivers

just like everyone dreams to be

[tame lantern]

I’m so tired of looking at 800x600

[austere creek]

Packages: 4131 (rpm), 25 (nix-user)

do not worry about it

lol

[tame lantern]

dear god

[austere creek]

2-3 years of "haha temporary ssd"

[tame lantern]

my arch has ~600, I guess that makes sense given it’s just plain arch with a window manager

oh look the dreaded transparent steam window

[austere creek]

overall opensuse comes with significantly more installed I believe, but also a lot of packages are split up in different ways like RPM packages typically are

[tame lantern]

yeah I’m kind of debating whether some of my thing should be packages or flatpaks

[austere creek]

packages everything

apart from discord

because fuck discord

that's how I manage that lol

[tame lantern]

yeah but also, vesktop is not a part of the official repos, and idk if adding 50 different OBS repos will be a good thing

[austere creek]

that's what I meant

[tame lantern]

are you saying I should use the obs repos? I’m confused

[austere creek]

flatpak for basically only vesktop/discord

is what I do

[tame lantern]

at least they aren’t snaps

[austere creek]

i mean truly like they're both half a travesty

[tame lantern]

I should probably install windows before I keep setting stuff up, I could definitely see windows still managing to wipe Linux even though it has its own drive

[austere creek]

at least the efi partition

i would probably search up what the modern windows behavior relating to that is nowadays

[tame lantern]

It’s a windows 10 version so less likely to explode Linux than 11 is

[austere creek]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-drone-gif-20814552

[tame lantern]

grub has survived

this looks cool
https://kando.menu/

[tame lantern]

I am definitely not going insane, I'm pretty sure pipewire just sounds different from windows audio stuff

and on windows I have audio enhancements off

its weird

[austere creek]

I think Windows has some extra hidden settings that do do something

I don't know what settings come with OpenSUSE right now, but there's also quite a bit you can tweak

can tweak it till it uses a quarter of your cpu

lol

[tame lantern]

it is really nice how little resources are being used right now

[austere creek]

or if I remember right even drivers sometimes add random processing

[night matrix]

This channel is probably the most lively piece of history we will ever get to see

[tame lantern]

do you pronounce GNOME as in the DE like “nome” or “guh-nome”

[opal abyss]

I say gnome

[austere creek]

ggggnome

[opal abyss]

gg nom nom

[agile pumice]

guh-nome because it's guh-nu

[austere creek]

ggggnu

[night matrix]

Nom nom

Oh wait crasher was first

Fuh

[next knoll]

that's precisely what I'm currently doing

[lusty marsh]

been fiddling around with xvesa for a bit

fun

[opal abyss]

#💩mems message

[lusty marsh]

just piped grep --help to grep

Wonderful

[tame lantern]

I am sad to announce that from today onwards, I am no longer an Arch user btw

[night matrix]

Nooooooooo

I mean understandable but nooooooooooooo

[tame lantern]

im sorry

updating once a day did in fact become annoying

especially on a laptop I need to use for school

[tame lantern]

I think I will replace it with fedora workstation

[odd moss]

I've been using a Fedora-based OS on my laptop for a bit over half a year now, pretty good

[tame lantern]

gnome is such a nice DE for laptops

[brittle mulch]

h

windows could never

[brittle mulch]

ha

@compact geode

this is such a dell moment

last night it decided it was BATTERY TIME and when I went to plug it in because it was at 5% it started flashing an error code at me

[compact geode]

wild

[brittle mulch]

I think it was 5 amber 1 white, which is uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh "charging stopped due to temporary battery error" which is usually an overheat condition

would believe it because 60-70°C air was coming out the vents

as soon as I got back into the EFI after trying to get into Windows (fucking installing cachyos deleted my windows EFI) the fans locked at full speed

[next knoll]

bro invented L3 swap

when you run out of SSD swap
so you swap the SSD swap to the HDD swap
but then you run out of HDD swap
so you swap to the cloud

[ripe stream]

wait ur right

[ripe stream]

he broke the loop

brilliant

[tame lantern]

why dont big AI datacenters just use google drive instead of taking all our RAM

[sharp helm]

Is that a petabyte bro

Unlimited RAM

[brittle mulch]

yeah

doesn't work well afaik because Google drive doesn't support like. in place modification

[ripe stream]

paying a google storage expansion subscription is probably cheaper than buying actual ram, to be fair

while we're at it, the Discord Linux strikes again

(discussion of other servers is forbidden)

[agile pumice]

That's crazy lmao

[sharp helm]

God don't even get me started

That server fucking sucks

Literally 1984

[ripe stream]

muted, for swearing

[ripe stream]

banned, for bringing in political ideology

[sharp helm]

And don't even think of mentioning or even helping someone with a distro they don't approve of

[tame lantern]

I'm muting you for bringing politics into this drone server

we don't need your kind of people here

[austere creek]

type of place where you can say you like systemd and then get blown off of the face of the earth

[tame lantern]

I dont get why everyone hates systemd all of a sudden

[austere creek]

people have hated systemd since it has existed

just there are now groups who caught on to some more popular people saying they hate it

and then also just say that

[tame lantern]

bleh

[austere creek]

systemd is pretty awesome

most of the dislike for it comes from a place where a person doesn't utilize its features

[tame lantern]

its annoying when people just regurgitate criticisms other people have said before without analyzing it themselves to form their own opinion

[ripe stream]

I like the [redacted] distro

[ripe stream]

The Internet final boss

[tame lantern]

they do not represent muffinkind

[austere creek]

has the list grown

[ripe stream]

they do not represent the galaxy as a whole in any way shape or form

[ripe stream]

these are the ones ur allowed to make reference to but i haven't been watching it

[tame lantern]

based lutris and fedora

oh and opensuse

[tame lantern]

why not just have a rule similar to this server where you can share links to any on-topic servers as long as it's not advertising or something bad

[austere creek]

all you truly need

™

1000 watt power supply for 89 euros

[ripe stream]

that would make too much sense

[austere creek]

but what if they lose members if someone mentions other server!!!

[ripe stream]

prohibit mention of other distro servers
prohibit any attempt at assistance with said distros

apparently even within DMs

[austere creek]

i love how the effect is always like

the opposite of what they desire

turns out people just can go to a different server anyways

[agile pumice]

To be fair, I tried using Runit for a bit and startup was noticeably faster. My Systemd times were also quite reasonable though so I ended up switching back to Systemd for the wider support

[austere creek]

you can get systemd startup quick if you analyze it enough

[agile pumice]

Right, but Runit was like that out of the box

[austere creek]

systemd can be as well

[agile pumice]

I was comparing a fresh Arch install to a fresh Void Linux install

[austere creek]

systemd can be pretty awesome with what you can do with it

[agile pumice]

I never said it wasn't

[austere creek]

but it's funny because generally servers and anything other than normal will utilize systemd stuff quite a good bit

and i am not saying you said it wasn't

[agile pumice]

Yeah I mean there's a reason it's the de facto system

[austere creek]

I am not that bothered by boot times anymore nowadays

like compared to hard drive windows 7 disk checking bootup of like 5 minutes i never feel like it is slow anymore

[agile pumice]

5 minutes? That's nothing. My Windows 11 install on an SSD once took 10 minutes to boot into the login screen

[tame lantern]

I cant tell if this is a compliment or insult

[agile pumice]

Both

[next knoll]

"I feel like you'd replace SysVinit with systemd"

[tame lantern]

I just learned my friend who has arch updates once a month

amazing

[next knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-angry-annoyed-stressed-im-stressed-gif-14953464331735544902

that friend, once a month

[agile pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/yon-jonathan-marmot-scream-yon-scream-jonathan-scream-gif-3547319591164560719

[odd moss]

fuck me I sometimes don't even boot up my linux laptop once a month

[ripe stream]

debian loyally awaits me like a Minecraft dog in an abandoned world

[tame lantern]

debian is just so boring

it works and stuff

[ripe stream]

the swap lore continues

[ripe stream]

@tame lantern https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@memoriesin8bit/116113806329310044

8Bit | :linux: :godot: | 🍶🦊 (@[email protected]...

I cannot tell you how much I love that the process of
"my Linux distro suddenly booted into Gnome because I didn't realize a package I installed yesterday had all of Gnome as a dependency"
is referred to at
"getting gnomed"

reddit.com/r/gotgnomed/

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Gamedev Mastodon · Feb 22, 2026, 10:27 AM

[agile pumice]

https://www.reddit.com/r/gotgnomed/

[tardy matrix]

Is it possible to reinstall ubuntu without a flash drive or SD card? I have 2 boot drives if that makes a difference

[agile pumice]

Technically yes but it's far easier if you do have a flash drive

How come you're trying to avoid external flash media?

[tardy matrix]

I don't have any free drives

Could i just etch the iso onto the boot drive directly from another os?

[agile pumice]

Do you intend to clear both drives?

[tardy matrix]

No

[austere creek]

most importantly: why are you reinstalling ubuntu and WHY ubuntu

and besides that, you can put the installer into a small partition and boot into it if you really want to do it that way

[tardy matrix]

Ubuntu works well and I have a decently powerful computer

[agile pumice]

So do you want to install it alongside Windows or something?

[tardy matrix]

Yes

[agile pumice]

So right now you've got 1 drive for Windows, and you want the other for Linux?

[tardy matrix]

Correct

I have an nvme for windows and a sata ssd for linux

[agile pumice]

Like Emilia said you can partition the second drive and put the live ISO on that partition. Then you can install Linux to the rest of the drive

If you make the live partition at the end of the disk you can then expand Linux into the empty space once you're done

[ripe stream]

+1 pog point for fetch on windows
+1 pog point for amateur radio

[tame lantern]

why dont I get pog points when I post radio stuff :(

[ripe stream]

wher radio stuff ?

[tame lantern]

there's no radio nerd threads so its all scattered around

I recently got a free handheld VHF/UHF :D

most of what I do is playing with SDR

I have a little QRP HF radio but its deaf so I cant do much

it would be cool to do what icom does and have an SDR receiving then transmit on the analog radio but idk how to implement that without just destroying my SDR

[lusty marsh]

ooooh sick stuff

you may get pog points from me

[ripe stream]

u remember the beginning of #🎮radio-chatter? lol

[ripe stream]

oh sick, what is it?

and what u do with SDR

I've got a uBitX but it's sat unused for way too long sadly. just no time for many hobbies. someday though

[tame lantern]

It's an Anytone FM/DMR one, the AT-D868UV

[tame lantern]

a lot of HF scanning and being sad I cant participate, I like listening to SSTV, I also have done a bit of satellite stuff, I got to hear NOAA APT on the last day it was in use, setup sucked so I only got a little bit of good data

I made an end fed antenna which was fun and im gonna make an active loop at some point because my area is so noisy

[tame lantern]

You have your license right?

[austere creek]

(radio chatter was partially made for just normal radio talk for the record)

at least that is what I remember

despite the current description

[tame lantern]

yeah but nobody treats it as a channel for radio stuff

[austere creek]

i do

[ripe stream]

oh wow that aint just no baofeng. that's awesome

-# no baofeng hate ❤️

[ripe stream]

first time i've heard about NOAA going down... is this the equivalent of reading the last words of a person who passed?

crazy how all the cool satellites I saved to "check out sometime later" have literally all died

[tame lantern]

I like my lil UV5R

[tame lantern]

theres still that meteor one on VHF

not analog sadly

[ripe stream]

ooh!

oh

hopefully there will be some cubesats left or being made next time I get to do radio

[ripe stream]

anyways that's awsome though. DIY is always the fun part

[ripe stream]

and this is also 100% what i woulda gotten if I didn't inherit my family's untouched yaesu HT heh

[tame lantern]

fancy

[ripe stream]

and yeah Technician, "almost general" but never got the chance to retake it

[tame lantern]

there's much better than the UV5R at the same price now

[ripe stream]

honestly wish I had something cheaper lol. might grab something when i get back in

[ripe stream]

isn't there some equivalent cheap HT but with a handful of custom crazy firmware hacks and stuff?

[tame lantern]

its really easy to just memorize all the questions, the test bank is public

[ripe stream]

like CB AM transmission lol

[ripe stream]

honestly fair, I probably have enough of the "understanding" part to do that now

[tame lantern]

like an HF/VHF/UHF handheld? I haven't heard of that

[ripe stream]

might take me a minute to find it but i'll let ya know

QUANSHENG

that's the name

i believe it was this lil guy, the UV-K5. there might also be another model

[tame lantern]

I bet it has some pretty messy output at that frequency

[ripe stream]

i bet it would electromagnetically violate just about every single piece of electronics in a solid 500 foot radius. but i think that's simply the ramification of forcibly toggling the Cheap, Simple, and HF sliders all at once

[tame lantern]

I guess bandpass filters exist for a reason

[tame lantern]

holy based

I think mine is the exact same one

[ripe stream]

anyways, the first message in radio chatter that wasn't just a "first" comment. we "amateurs" definitely own the place hehe

[ripe stream]

lol

[ripe stream]

should give dangerdc a ping

wonder how he's been

[tame lantern]

it always scares me using a tuner, because while waiting for it to tune your SWR reads 9.99:1

[austere creek]

pure suffering

NOAA-15 is still fully operational by the way

just a funding thing

roscosmos core

[tame lantern]

woah wha?

ohh I see

[austere creek]

yes they just turned it off

[tame lantern]

I misinterpreted and got my hopes up

[austere creek]

for no reason

[ripe stream]

https://tenor.com/view/what-whaaat-shto-emotiguy-shocked-gif-27491546

just look away and transmit like there's no tomorrow

[tame lantern]

I'm scared though :(

[ripe stream]

https://i.ibb.co/Js9M13n/damn.gif

[ripe stream]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-the-puppet-the-marionette-gangnam-style-gif-3326508597570523842

[austere creek]

you're paying enough attention as to where you will never be the person transmitting the noises their computer makes

[tame lantern]

my PSU is the noisiest thing ever

my antenna is literally outside and still having issues with it

I wish I could switch my power output to like 100mw and then tune then go up to the full 5w

[ripe stream]

yeah but ur gonna hear every one of the hundred differnt ear-piercing resonance squeals coming from my wall wart "PSU," the 60Hz hum of my horribly ungrounded electrical system, and the rhythmic RFI "thump" as my dad runs on the treadmill - all drowning out my audible cursing after i electrocute myself on an improperly grounded Ender 3

[tame lantern]

I just thought of something funny

nothing in my setup is grounded

besides like the power I guess

cause my antenna just has a coutnerpoise wire and then my tuner has nothing connected to the ground

[ripe stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/645681201880760360.webp?size=240&animated=true

spicy setup

[lusty marsh]

caught gentoo rebooting on this terminal thing

[tame lantern]

"Hey, I'm considering eating something, which restaurant should I pick"

[compact geode]

what is the actual answer

if there is one

[austere creek]

you start with something popular that works for your system and then you learn on it

so you get preferences

fedora and such are good starting points

anything KDE or Gnome or something

[compact geode]

gnome sounds fun

[austere creek]

kde is the more windows-like one

gnome is very gnome-y

[compact geode]

are you trying to sell gnome

[austere creek]

no i despise gnome personally

lipo likes it

those two are just the two bigger desktop environments

[compact geode]

well your selling it

[austere creek]

it is "unique" is pretty much it

the fun part is you can just try them all out

[compact geode]

Its named gnome though

[austere creek]

it is deceiving

there is not much whimsy

depending on who you ask

[compact geode]

i hope your lying

[tame lantern]

its a love hate relationship

I wish I could do stuff with it

[austere creek]

lipo is in a terrible relationship with the gnome

[tame lantern]

well I like the workflow but not the philosphy

its also visually boring

[sly cape]

I prefer xfcd

well actually I like one of the tiling ones better; awesome https://awesomewm.org/ ..

but I don't have windows keys on my keyboard so it 's a bit of a drag to use

[next knoll]

I never understood the obsession with no-super keyboards xD

[sly cape]

It's no obsession; I just haven't changed keyboard since around 1990.

[compact geode]

what

as in

[compact geode]

oh wait what

[tame lantern]

GNOME is not customizable at all

theres like extensions but those only help so much

[compact geode]

butit sounds so whimsical

[tame lantern]

meh

KDE is better for 90% of peopled

[ripe stream]

me and my towering straw house of miscellaneous yet meticulously chosen, delicately prepared extensions:

[tame lantern]

you could probably do more with windows than gnome

[ripe stream]

-# BUT ION WANNA 😠

[tame lantern]

im gonna force you to install kde

[ripe stream]

lol i alr tried fedora

[tame lantern]

I love fedora

[ripe stream]

100%, it was great and customizeable while I tried it

[tame lantern]

redhat without the bad parts and more modern

[ripe stream]

yeah for how "open source" the whole linux thing is, i'm surprised nothing's at KDE's level of customization

i just use gnome cause of how heavily i rely on the swiping workspaces thing as well as the "hot corner"

gnome seems to have that specifically dialed down the cleanest

[tame lantern]

gnome is such a great laptop DE

[ripe stream]

yeah I shoulda added, i'm on a laptop lol

small one at that

[tame lantern]

for laptops I always use stuff like gnome and hyprland instead of normal stuff like kde or lxqt

[ripe stream]

do u still use gnome?

[tame lantern]

yes

[ripe stream]

i remember you were diving into it a while back lol

fair

[ripe stream]

use what works for you in the moment and don't be hellbent about it ! who coulda guessed !

[tame lantern]

for funsies I turned KDE into MacOS

[ripe stream]

hehe awesome

"ricing" linux mint to windows 10 is actually how i snuck linux on my family's pc lol

was doing a windows install, decided to add a smol Mint partition for my own occasional use, installed a windows theme for fun, got the icons and everything, and decided to just boot it up to that

[tame lantern]

how do they not notice??

[ripe stream]

i think they noticed real quickly

but the linux thing kinda just stayed

we later agreed to enlargee the mint portion and its daily driven on that hehe

[tame lantern]

I'm not much of an ubuntu person

[ripe stream]

im guessing ur using debian with ur gnome stuff?

[agile pumice]

You can change the colour and other CSS values of the shell, and you can install extensions and hope they get updated in time for the next major upgrade that breaks everything. KDE is so much better about customisation

(I use GNOME)

[compact geode]

i really just wanna use gnome cause it sounds funny

[ripe stream]

counterpoint: debian and never upgrade

"b buh but muh security upgrades" i will have you know that i will gladly switch back to windows xp

[agile pumice]

Debian still gets security upgrades

You should be updating anyway

And also by the time Debian upgrades GNOME any extension that hasn't been abandoned will be upgraded anyway

[ripe stream]

not if i dont apt upgrade

[agile pumice]

I do really like that GNOME's file search is extremely fast

[ripe stream]

-# for liability purposes i am spewing highly unreliable advice right now

[ripe stream]

oh i love being able to search for symbols too

want an omega?

Ω

only have to press the windows key too

[agile pumice]

Symbol search is nice, compose key is also very nice

It lets me add emdashes and ellipses and degree symbols super fastly

Also endashes

Also I love the emoji insert hotkey too

Honestly I just love that I don't have to wait 10 seconds for anything to do anything unlike Windows 😭

[ripe stream]

to be entirely honest i have never heard of compose key and have no idea what you are talking about

i need to educate myself on this

[agile pumice]

Both GNOME and KDE have it for sure. I've set it to right control

It just lets you type in a series of regular keys and out pops a special symbol

[ripe stream]

i see

[agile pumice]

So like rctrl --- becomes —, --. is –, oo is °, oc is ©, etc.

[tame lantern]

tumbleweed on PC and fedora on laptop

[agile pumice]

My favourite thing about the compose key is just how many ways there are to make the copyright symbol specifically

[agile pumice]

How do you like Tumbleweed?

[ripe stream]

this is what i'm worried about, I don't use any one signal frequently enough to remember

i'll just type it out on the uhh

the tablet overview thing

[ripe stream]

fascinating

[agile pumice]

I use emdashes and endashes enough for it to be useful for me 😅

Most combos are pretty easy to remember or easy to figure out

But if you have to figure it out it's faster to just search for it so 🤷

[ripe stream]

i'll be honest I only recently learned that there were multiple types of dashes

like I use em dashes tons but I thought it was just the normal dash - like this

or - for example - like this

[agile pumice]

Nah normal dash is just a hyphen, specifically for hyphenating words for word wrap or to combine them

emdash is for parenthetical statements and endash is for ranges

[sly cape]

https://www.xfce.org/ 🙂 typo sorry

[agile pumice]

-# It does bug me when people use hyphens in place of emdashes -- at the very least double-hyphens are better

[ripe stream]

and i thought i used em dashes correctly. wonder how many people i been bugging

[tame lantern]

meh

YaST is cool

zypper is slow but never breaks stuff

updating isnt as frequent as arch but definitely high

[tame lantern]

idk how to interpret this

[ripe stream]

in no particular way

does gnome play nice with fedora? i forgot if it was a "stock" option or something

[tame lantern]

yes, fedora workstation is made for gnome

[ripe stream]

my very limited DE experimentation experience says that mixing DEs and distros doesnt always work well

[ripe stream]

ah, i rember incorrectly

cool

[tame lantern]

I dont think so

I can use basically any DE on any distro I want

[ripe stream]

hmm. i'll chalk it up to my own user error

i've ended up with some kinda janky setups

[agile pumice]

Maybe that just means you weren't using the system package manager to install the DE?

But anyway Fedora has a KDE spin so it's officially supported and all that

[ripe stream]

stuff like installing another DE then ending up with settings tabs from both KDE and gnome

[ripe stream]

yeah probably lol

[agile pumice]

Oh yeah well GNOME hates literally anything else so you will run into issues like that

Switching to KDE should be pretty painless though

[ripe stream]

yeah haha

[austere creek]

i am telling you shout

it is merely a trick

[compact geode]

It’s already on a usbc

[austere creek]

i think you underestimate the age and sheer size of the KDE community as a whole

it is large and there is a lot of work

and also the goal with gnome is to be how they want it to be quite strictly, not customization

[austere creek]

boot it!!!

[compact geode]

its installed

(I lie)

[next knoll]

I went back to linux this year
Started with KDE
so kludgy ffs
Switched to Gnome just to see what all the noise is all about
uhhhhhh.... idk, just weird, convoluted...

Gonna try Cosmic.

[austere creek]

what is kludgy

[next knoll]

inconsistent styling, things randomly misbehave (the main bar kept switching from being full width to floating off the edges)

honestly kinda feels like Windows 11 🤣

tried to edit the main bar, ended up throwing my hands up because it kept glitching the f* out

desktop switching kept dropping FPS

and VRR is entirely broken on Nvidia, but that's probably a nvidia issue more than anything

[austere creek]

how long ago was this

[next knoll]

VRR works better with Gnome

[next knoll]

3 days? KDE on latest Ubuntu. I'll be swithcing to Fedora for lolz though.

Wayland definitely likes multiple screens more than X11 ever did, that's a breath of fresh air

but VRR is still f*ing broken

[austere creek]

the full width thing to floating is normal and intended

it's like one switch to change

[agile pumice]

Is Ubuntu still on Plasma 5?

[next knoll]

yeah but it switched randomly

[austere creek]

definitely just try anything other than ubuntu for kde lol

[agile pumice]

Not when you fullscreen an app or switch it to windowed mode?

[next knoll]

one time I would boot the PC up and it would be floating
then I'd suspend, resume, and it'd be full width

when I finally managed to fight the editor to not glitch out, it became consistent..

As for gnome...
Yeah still hate it

It's a lot more consistent and not put together with duct tape, but it's also extremely opinionated.

[austere creek]

it does really sound like a very early plasma 6 experience where they were still working things out

but that was a long time ago now

[next knoll]

Think Fedora is a good idea?

not sure which flavour yet

[austere creek]

can't imagine they don't have their kde dialed in

[agile pumice]

I'd try KDE again with Fedora, it should be on a more stable version of KDE

[austere creek]

opensuse has also always been a KDE distro

[next knoll]

hmm, didn't consider suse..

I'm sort of in a proof-of-concept phase with linux again 😄

I'm an ex-arch user, had a full custom i3wm setup, loved that stuff

but my brain just can't anymore

considered sway for a bit there xD

[austere creek]

i just need something that works and doesn't get in my way so i use basically untouched kde lol

[next knoll]

yeah KDE was fairly reasonable in terms of working with me, but it was just a bit inconsistent
Gnome just doesn't mesh with me, idk. It looks prettier, but I keep hitting my head on things.

[agile pumice]

I tried KDE back when Plasma 6 just came out, got tired of the bugs and found out the clipboard indicator didn't work the way I needed and switched back to GNOME 😅

What don't you like about GNOME?

[next knoll]

Haha, yeah I tried plasma 6 too right when it came out, it was so broken 🤣

[austere creek]

gnome is very opinionated

i can't stand how any of it works

yet others love it

[next knoll]

Static top bar - idk, just takes up space for no reason, and I can't really do anything extra with it.
App bar, I'd like it to be full width but have centered icons.. can't have that.
I want to see app preveiews on hover on the app bar - can't have that...
I have hot corners disabled in the settings, yet they're enabled anyway
If I enable them, I get double hot corners and glitchy ass behaviour
Full screen app menu is just a no for me.

[next knoll]

^

The gnome Files app feels better to use for the most part than Dolphin xD

[agile pumice]

What is the app bar?

Oh wait this thing? https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1160/dash-to-panel/

[next knoll]

?

I have no f*ing clue what gnome calls their app bar..

the bar with running apps.

[agile pumice]

Can you screenshot it?

I think I don't have it 😅

[next knoll]

ubuntu defaults it to the left of the screen

how do you switch apps then?

without alt-tab xD

[agile pumice]

Oh right it's a Ubuntu thing. This one?

[next knoll]

that's a ubuntu thing?

afaik that's a gnome thing..

[agile pumice]

They're normally put into the top bar I think?

Idk I've turned it all off lol

[next knoll]

I'm so confused lol

[agile pumice]

🤓

[next knoll]

Tristam spotted

[agile pumice]

lol only a couple songs

[next knoll]

he has some really good ones 😄

[agile pumice]

I have mostly the ones that are in Just Shapes and Beats 😅 Plus Children in the Dark

[next knoll]

"dash"

[agile pumice]

Oh right I only have that in the overview

[next knoll]

ah, I guess having it always available as a dock is an extension

anyway, not having that would be even worse xD

[agile pumice]

Yeah I think it's a Ubuntu extension. But anyway what did you want it to look like?

Full width and apps centered?

[next knoll]

That's one option

[austere creek]

i think this would kill me

[next knoll]

Most of my issue with it is the lack of hover previews

but since it's an extension, I won't dog on gnome for it..

[agile pumice]

Oh yeah idk if there's any way to do that

[next knoll]

when I have 3 windows of an app open, I want to pick before clicking..

also the app view (idk what it's called, opens when I press super by default) is so incredibly disorganised..

how the f* do I make it group apps??

anyway, it's sort of a death by a thousand cuts

I'm currently using gnome and it's definitely usable

but things are just awkward for me

[agile pumice]

Looks like that's the closest you can get, where you have to right-click on an app then click all windows

[next knoll]

that's fugly beyond words

[agile pumice]

You get previews in the super-tab menu but that's also not great

[next knoll]

I need another drive for testing shit ffs

xD

[agile pumice]

Try it out on a live USB

[next knoll]

that's nowhere near enough time to know

I need to be actually seriously using it to know what I like/dislike

[agile pumice]

I think there's a way to make live USBs persistent. I don't remember though

But yeah fair enough

[next knoll]

I'd need a huge fast external USB drive for that xD

[agile pumice]

Just install Pacman on Ubuntu and use the Arch package repos instead 😎

[next knoll]

and at that point I can just get an internal...

[next knoll]

lmao

how to: nuking your system

[ripe stream]

fair, I'm not very involved in anything outside debian/gnome. Shoot im not really involved in that either. i just use it

[ripe stream]

yeah I'm not a massive fan of this part of gnome unfortunately

@next knoll here's what i've done with my gnome fyi. it's not really "intended" for gnome (see my above message and what i replied to lol) but with extensions it's kinda possible to customize

or at least to steer away from the monstrosity that is the floating dock app bar cluster thing garbage

[austere creek]

you're banned from using gnome now

next you'll tell us you use themes

[stray sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/arch-linux-linux-lucky-star-konata-i-use-arch-btw-gif-16130366266390991445

Im back to arch

So far havent blown it up

[agile pumice]

Just you wait

[ripe stream]

||I RICE GNOME|| ||I RICE GNOME|| ||I RICE GNOME|| ||I RICE GNOME|| ||I RICE GNOME|| ||I RICE GNOME|| ||I RICE GNOME|| ||KILL ME IF YOU CAN, GNOME DEVS||

[tame lantern]

what’s y’all’s favorite cursor

[agile pumice]

Nah that one's boring I prefer Windsurf instead

[stray sierra]

that didnt take long

[next knoll]

Lol what happened?

I had to make a windows VM in order to make an update card for my car xD

[stray sierra]

fusion barely runs with key things i need non functional and orca is really laggy

and at the point i have to install windows in a vm

im just going to run windows outright

in the battle between actually doing something or spending 14 years fighting fusion to get it functional, doing something wins

[next knoll]

Um... Do you have the right stuff for your GPU?

[stray sierra]

yeah

games run fine

[next knoll]

Odd

[stray sierra]

fusion just really hates linux and orca is just weird

and i have stuff i need to do in fusion and not being able to import or export anything is kinda a big issue

[next knoll]

Orca runs fine for me

[stray sierra]

orca was more of just a small annoyance

[tame lantern]

next time it might be easier to use Windows IoT LTSC 2021, don't have the extra 11 stuff to worry about

anyways plymouth is cool I like fancy boot splashes

https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1000027

[tame lantern]

debian automatically wanting to use ext4 is silly

btfrs exists you know?

[austere creek]

btrfs still has some silly quirks that make it better to do ext4 as the default

[tame lantern]

I guess the whole point of debian is that it just works

that makes sense

[ripe stream]

archbro edgecutting noob tries to fix that which ain't broken (GONE WRONG) (HILARIOUS) ➡️ ⭕‼️ 😱

[stray sierra]

Watch me turn my functional debian install into a non booting segfalt in record time

[ripe stream]

too complicated just do a quick recursive elevated chown on your main drive (fixes all file ownership and permission issues) (trust me, i have experience)

[tame lantern]

hey I use fedora excuse you

[next knoll]

so does ReiserFS

[tame lantern]

what that

[next knoll]

okay, to be clear: used to exist

[tame lantern]

I think linus uses fedora

the cool linus

[agile pumice]

Fedora Workstation, yes

[ripe stream]

https://tenor.com/view/count-dooku-christopher-lee-star-wars-gif-23719747

[stray sierra]

wrong chat

[ripe stream]

yknow what, ghost ping for you

[stray sierra]

mods cut off his head

[ripe stream]

[agile pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-meme-mods-gif-14385308006689816010

[tame lantern]

no I don't like electron

its so slow

[next knoll]

pfff

add one tauri to every atom in his body

that's actually worse

[tame lantern]

I don't know what tauri is, I assume its like electron but not chromium?

[agile pumice]

It's Rust I think?

[tame lantern]

oh yippee