Graphics Showcases

[visual plover]

Like when I’m playing with shaders

It might be the method of rendering them that bedrock uses

Cause they’re barely letting light through

[wintry lodge]

They are treated as full blocks

For some reason

[visual plover]

Maybe by the time they add stuff like waving foliage (if they ever do) that’ll help it?

[cedar stream]

Hopefully

[wintry lodge]

The main way to fix it is for them to not be considered full blocks and actually properly allow light to pass through them

[visual plover]

Is that able to be done currently

[wintry lodge]

Nope

There's a method with RTX that lets more light through leaves but it doesn't work in deferred

[gaunt sorrel]

Are they talking about sub surface scattering?

[wintry lodge]

no. so theres a thing you can do in rtx with TGA transparency that allows more light to physically pass through leaves, softening the shadows

i wish this worked in deferred

[gaunt sorrel]

So like, transparent shadow mapping?

Why would leaves have transparent shadows though? They don't appear to in real life.

Actually, if you respond, can you do so in #1182091012177399809

[wintry lodge]

brightening the moon and reworking fog completely

making fog more on the subtle side rather than being insanely thick

[wintry lodge]

the fog is thicker at night for some reason, but i dont really mind it

[visual plover]

I think the vol fog has some sort off illuminance to it so it’s more noticeable at night when there’s not as much light being cast

[wintry lodge]

That's probably it

I like it though. Makes the night a little more interesting

[knotty badge]

So pretty

[ripe island]

You should make fog less yellow

[wintry lodge]

That's my plan

[ripe island]

Make fog a bit purple to cancel yellow tones

[wintry lodge]

It's just hard as it's being tinted by the sun

Oh I could try that

I was thinking of going super light blue with forests tbh

[ripe island]

Purple cancel yellow, blue cancel orange

[wintry lodge]

Like almost white

[ripe island]

a year in hairdressing school was useful 😎

[ripe island]

Thank you!! 💖

[wintry lodge]

I'll try this. Later

It gets more white as the day progresses

It's just stupidly yellow at /time set day

[left marten]

my little excursion in quirky's world

we did some random stuff and took some pics :p

[ripe island]

I sent him friend request yesterday

[left marten]

nice

[ripe island]

I don't think he want to be my my friend

[left marten]

we can all join one world :3

[wintry lodge]

You did?

[left marten]

aw :(

[wintry lodge]

I'm sorry I don't get Xbox notifications

[ripe island]

Yes :'<

[wintry lodge]

It just doesn't tell me anything

[left marten]

add me too :3

Arctrometa

[ripe island]

it was heartbreaking

almost as much as the ending of gossip girl and titanic

[left marten]

[wintry lodge]

Accepted it 😭

[ripe island]

Sure :>

I will do it tomorrow

[left marten]

alright

[left marten]

:3

found it through quirk's friend list lol

[lone nest]

[left marten]

[lone nest]

[ripe island]

That's stalking

[lone nest]

totally not in my connections

[left marten]

ill find you anyways

[lone nest]

[ripe island]

is your name joe?

[left marten]

i just searched it up :3

[left marten]

yes

[ripe island]

Hello you

[left marten]

hello Al3xis ;3

also we should stop chatting here

:p

[mellow inlet]

can I have friends

[ripe island]

Sure pookie

Add me and I will add you back

[mellow inlet]

I’ll do that in like 45 min

[civic basin]

I don't even know if this post is for this kinda stuff. Feels more like maybe #off-topic or #1182091012177399809? Just best to stay on topic, please and thanks. I'm just doing my job.

[glass bear]

those last two sentences were really not necessary and came off rather rude

[civic basin]

Maybe it was but hey this isn't the chat :3

[visual plover]

lol they rly weren’t tho

[civic basin]

I was. I just edited the message. But this chat isn't the place. Have to stay on-topic, please.

[cursive geyser]

Please, this isn’t the right channel to ask questions.

[lofty heath]

My God, I had read "general" by mistake

sorry

[wintry lodge]

ive fixed my forest fogs!

[pastel thicket]

That is DELICIOUS

[pastel thicket]

The underwater… so prettyyyy

[visual plover]

Prizma ❤️

[wintry lodge]

oil spill sky color

[wintry lodge]

Welcome to Mars

[silk ore]

Wow you discovered life on Mars before scientists !

[wintry lodge]

Lmao

[civic basin]

Furnace.

Luminous Dreams - Modifed shadow clamp angle

[cursive geyser]

Looks really good

[mellow inlet]

The colors are really nice here :O

[visual plover]

Can this only be done by config files

[wet slate]

y

[mellow inlet]

Imma be honest, these screenshots are getting to the point where they either look like clickbait videos or MC Marketplace covers.

(It does look amazing tho)

[wintry lodge]

💀

[ripe island]

now you see that my plan that I told you was perfect?

[wintry lodge]

Oh btw, this isn't the only thing I plan to do with this concept. I'd love to try to do it on deferred but I genuinely don't know how well that'll work but it could be worth a try. I wanna do many other planet atmospheres though. I think it would be fun

[mellow inlet]

hmm yeah

Item PBR might also be a good idea

I don’t think I would be able to tell at that point

[wintry lodge]

Item PBR is super buggy rn

It sort of works

Like I tried to make a lava bucket have PBR and instead of JUST the lava part glowing the entire thing just was glowing.

And the lava wasn't glowing very bright

It's just weird rn

[ripe island]

you are right! wait i will fo it

[civic basin]

Ignore the fella that's bright for some odd reason. Uh.. Luminous Dreams in a forest. Modifed shadow clamp angle. :)

[rancid zodiac]

thats one sandy mesa

[wintry lodge]

it is mars so

or at least meant to simulate it

[rancid zodiac]

mars dimension?

[wintry lodge]

nah, custom rtx preset

[rancid zodiac]

prehistoric mars?

[rancid zodiac]

ooo

back when mars maybe had water and life

[wintry lodge]

i also made the moons lol

they arent great but its the thought that counts

[rancid zodiac]

orange and pineapple

astroids are hard to shape tho yea

[wintry lodge]

this whole thing though took me almost a whole day

so many tweaks and changes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704786189944881203/1287605807432863825/2024-09-22_22-40-11.mp4?ex=66f227db&is=66f0d65b&hm=0651dc8f1832d35b669e961a0289cacc33dfa4b8576c989a15fcc9060751854a&

anyways have a video

the sun at sunrise is a tad stronger than id like it to be but yea

[rancid zodiac]

its marscraft now

[wintry lodge]

real

[mellow inlet]

Looks like 2 different wedges of cheese

[wintry lodge]

it kinda does lmao

im cooking up a venus preset rn

and let me tell you, its so much harder 😭

[mellow inlet]

Venus is basically all atmosphere bruh

isn’t it a gas giant

[wintry lodge]

no...

its the second planet from the sun

[mellow inlet]

Wait I can’t say that here mb

[wintry lodge]

right next to us

its atmosphere is pure sulfur

this is what ive got so far though

[mellow inlet]

Yeah, but I remember it being just majority gas

or at least we’ve only been able to observe the gas from it

[wintry lodge]

weve "landed" on it

[mellow inlet]

since like the one time we sent a probe out to Venus it melted to bits

or something

idek

[wintry lodge]

we got 50 minutes of footage i believe

thats it

[mellow inlet]

I like shiny graphic thingy not big rock in space

this is not my expertise

[wintry lodge]

yea. Im getting there though.

its gonna take awhile though

[left marten]

Venus looking a lot like post-apocalyptic earth

[wintry lodge]

real

i mean it kinda is that tbh lmao

[left marten]

true

[wintry lodge]

Welcome to Venus!

[lofty heath]

Minecraft Mars DLC

[lofty heath]

raytracing, right?

[wintry lodge]

Yep

[wintry lodge]

Woodland mansion BetterRTX

[thick gulch]

Make addon

[civic basin]

Just a sun.
-# Yes modified shadow clamp angle

[cedar stream]

Pleagued pbr + fall texture pack

[wintry lodge]

nice

[cedar stream]

How did you remove the name tags from the player in the last ss

[silk ore]

Videos options

[wintry lodge]

I pressed F1

[lofty heath]

it looked like an explosion

[thick gulch]

Skill issue

[wintry lodge]

1.18 world gen moment

[lone nest]

imagine yall had a server

[wintry lodge]

We don't

But

It would be interesting

[lone nest]

indeed

[cedar stream]

Petition for quirky and Alexis to make a deferred server

I’m lonely ☹️

[wintry lodge]

Neither of us play the game enough to support one

We both just prefer making content for it

This was a kind of random thing that happened anyways

[cedar stream]

It can be a public server and yall are the admins (or I can be)

[lofty heath]

Do you have any server where you post updates about Prizma?

I want to download the next update :)

[wintry lodge]

Idk. It's nothing against you. I just personally don't wanna run a server.

Time and money I don't have. Cuz if I wanted to run a server I'd use a proper one. Not crappy aternos

Nor am I in a position to renew my realms

[mellow inlet]

Quirky Cameo

[lofty heath]

If I had a machine to run a server, I would make an effort to keep it on 24/7 😀

[civic basin]

Luminous Dreams' test version with Better on Bedrock.

[thick gulch]

Furry

[wintry lodge]

taking a more subtle route with fog.

this helps reflections out big time too

[knotty badge]

That looks so comfortable

[ripe island]

thank you!! my servant built it

[knotty badge]

your servant lmao

The atmosphere is nice somehow

[wintry lodge]

I AM NOT YOUR SERVANT

[knotty badge]

Someone should recreate this

[knotty badge]

But I don't know if it's possible yet

[wintry lodge]

bruh

[gaunt sorrel]

That's rough, buddy

[lone nest]

lmao

[rancid zodiac]

what does the ambient light change do

nether and cave buff?

[wintry lodge]

thats the hope

but no docs yet, so no idea how to use it

[mellow inlet]

Looks amazing

[wintry lodge]

finally getting around to adding sss to more nature specific blocks that should have it but previously didnt (or just had no pbr at all)

[thick gulch]

No caustic

[cedar stream]

Yet

[wintry lodge]

fixed my issue with oversaturated lighting and improved vibrancy of the lighting

[thick gulch]

water white

[thick gulch]

Little cat

i'll take you with me

[cedar stream]

Mhafys ship addon + deferred rendering is the best mix

[thick gulch]

Bra

Looks cool

But your ship ....

💀

[thick gulch]

you can add pbr for the ship if you create height and reflection maps for mhafys ships atlas

[cedar stream]

I just got the addon man

[cedar stream]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1126872710891446432/1289264508879245404/RPReplay_Final1727454753.mov?ex=66f830a4&is=66f6df24&hm=a96e70a20b24cb62765a767761ffe6c95f63449f13fa3c2107ee5a5313961dd2&

Working airship in deferred rendering

[maiden grove]

That's a very cool add-on

[thick gulch]

Yeah

[lofty heath]

Literally what I dreamed of

[finite ginkgo]

#rtx

@vestal palm how to download it

[gaunt sorrel]

You should ask in #1182091012177399809 instead

[knotty badge]

https://tenor.com/view/disaster-hindenburg-germanzeppelin-zeppelin-fire-gif-4891650

[left marten]

[ripe island]

that's lovely 🙂

[wintry lodge]

rework of my cinematic preset. made it more closely resemble movies/tv shows

the old one was very overdramatic

this is the old one

[wintry lodge]

redoing my desaturated preset as well

[wintry lodge]

updating some things regarding my horror film preset

thicker fog, much higher contrast, aces

[mellow inlet]

r e d

[lofty heath]

the first image matches the new biome

cool

[thick gulch]

Shit biome

With shiting mob

[lofty heath]

Okay, no need to say anything else. 🙏

[thick gulch]

Fake

[ripe island]

Me? Yeah I am

[wintry lodge]

Nuh uh

[cursive geyser]

Interesting

[thick gulch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1135467048043036672/1290001930319560815/kumala.mov?ex=66fadf6b&is=66f98deb&hm=ff6b1ad5225b2b43b6fcdbc5e81ec8d98151253a495a1942134cf02a4fa5b753&

[wintry lodge]

work in progress fully custom sculk texture

[visual plover]

I think the tiling in the corners needs to be worked on a bit

Because in some there are pretty noticeable gaps

[rancid zodiac]

oooo

[rancid zodiac]

ooooooooooooooo

[mellow inlet]

Actually banger ice

[glossy star]

tear in the fabric of spacetime gave me an abstract art piece

this is actually terrifying

[glossy star]

I believe in normal superiority

[mellow inlet]

Snowy Fog Rework

[mellow inlet]

Blue Ice

Packed Ice

[wintry lodge]

traumatized jungle trapdoor

[wintry lodge]

new netherrack and quartz ore textures.

[light holly]

I love those unique textures. 🩵

[viscid olive]

beautifully

[wintry lodge]

Redid my lapis. Based it off real life research where I found lapis to be stupidly shiny

With a normalmap for fun

[static crown]

Is that rtx?

[wintry lodge]

Yes

[left marten]

Is that deferred

[ripe island]

no, your mom

[left marten]

No, your mom

[rancid zodiac]

oi when did that cute minecart get there

[rancid zodiac]

dudbsjeuidje

the minecart buff we didnt know we needed

[ripe island]

It was in my rtx pack for over a year

[rancid zodiac]

we are truly ascending above rtx

[mellow inlet]

ice.

[wintry lodge]

new sky. this is the most realistically accurate sky ive made yet

i spent about 3 or so days just studying how the sky blended irl

[gaunt sorrel]

The hill in the background looks like it was from Minecraft classic, lol

[maiden grove]

:0
Ik it's super hard to do because you are looking at pictures and videos of already tonemapped sky colors as reference, and then you try to tweak sky color in such a way that would produce the same colors with deferred tonemap, and that whole process gives you no information about brightness as reference colors are already tonemapped, and tonemap technique mismatch doesn't help either, and due to how tonemap works, different colors with varying brightness can produce the same color when tonemapped... In other words, realism is a huge headache.

Tried doing that as well when deferred just came out, however I was doing that in a standalone shader that I wrote outside of mc, where you can visualise side by side deferred sky and an existing state of the art atmosphere model, with the same tonemap (or, to be exact, without any tonemap at all, in order to judge brightness more accurately) and here is the result https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1019692489596215388/1148685816072261713/2023-09-05_20-19-18_-_Trim.mp4?ex=6704d0c8&is=67037f48&hm=5f013c9bd0f26891575295ea8ac4b43f5337033c45d34c1ef9ba15cf8b5ea555&

[wintry lodge]

oh wow

[wintry lodge]

a little bit yea

ive tried my best to mimic irl sky with what we have. theres likely some other adjustments i can make and im open to suggestions and feedback for sure

[civic basin]

It looks great! I've also had my fair share with deferred's sky last week, but didn't bother to send screenshots, although I only touched sunrise and night.

[wintry lodge]

sunrise and very early morning

[cedar stream]

Perfect

Rizz approved

[ripe island]

you sky is finally not dark 💖

[wintry lodge]

Yippee

[rancid zodiac]

oooo real sky

🔥

[honest oracle]

Today, I tried the Chinese version of Minecraft Bedrock Edition. The light and shadow effects in the Chinese version are excellent, and the reflections of clouds and water are particularly impressive. However, there is still a gap compared to the Java Edition.

[mellow inlet]

Those clouds are nice

wow

[cedar stream]

Deferred looking like this when

[honest oracle]

The sunset effect is beautiful!

[lofty heath]

if it weren't for the government...

[maiden grove]

A few of my favourite screenshots from Realistic Biomes, which is a paid marketplace add-on that I've worked on.

Also one of my fav features of this add-on is customizable color grading. There are a few built-in presets but there's also a preset editor that allows you to adjust colors of the game with RGB curves, like in photoshop. I think this is currently as close as you can get to official shaders on bedrock (not counting deferred)

[civic basin]

Of course you worked on it qwq I just know your particle magic and it's really epic!

[left marten]

whoa thats wild

[mellow inlet]

Hooooooowwwww

On the marketplace toooo???

[maiden grove]

I wish deferred had better support for existing creator features, like stencil buffer, because there are a few add-on features that don't work well with it or aren't supported at all

[cedar stream]

Yall took inspiration from sdgp didn’t ya

They look very similar

[maiden grove]

Bloom and lens flare work decently well with deferred, tho unfortunately anything related to custom sky and particles doesn't work well

[left marten]

[civic basin]

Woah

[knotty badge]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[mellow inlet]

It’s already doing better than Realism Craft, the lens flare works in other render types

[civic basin]

If Veka worked on it, you know it's gonna be better. He just knows how to cook.

[copper bison]

tumbleweeds are definitely the best part for no particular reason

cuz who wouldn't like a bundle of sticks?

[honest oracle]

"The performance consumption of volumetric clouds is too high, and the frame rate is very low."😨😨

[cedar stream]

Looks like one of those bedrock shader clickbait thumbnails of the mobile touch controls slapped on a Java shader screenshot 💀

Hopefully deferred will look like this one day

[wintry lodge]

i made a high resolution floor tile texture for a different project. ported it mc for fun

[misty sandal]

Floooriiaan be speaking facts

[knotty badge]

DAMN

[misty sandal]

whats that shader called?

[maiden grove]

Deferred lighting shader :)

That message has a download link

[misty sandal]

oo mb

[maiden grove]

It's also on mcpedl, with proper screenshots

[misty sandal]

damn thats crazy 💀

[misty sandal]

ty man!

[wintry lodge]

High res floor tile in deferred (idk what those little squares are. Haven't been able to get rid of them)

[wintry lodge]

@pure lagoon heres my best one so far. try to find the creaking haha

Pale Garden Collection

[rancid zodiac]

man

so hot

[lone bone]

is this normal deffered?

[wintry lodge]

Yep

[lone bone]

wow

it’s come a long way

looks great!

[mellow inlet]

Today's Progress:
(Very good imo)

[honest oracle]

Haha, yeah, I also hope deferred rendering keeps improving. I really like the volumetric clouds and ripple effects in the Chinese version, but unfortunately, deferred rendering can' achieve that yet.👀

[rancid zodiac]

if only this was deferred

[ripe island]

Deferred also can have normalmaps

[rancid zodiac]

but like as good as those are?

[mellow inlet]

Honestly, the only thing that won’t look as good if I port it to deferred will likely be reflections/metalness

the slime might not also look as good due to lack of refraction ig

[ripe island]

Yes

[rancid zodiac]

hmmm

i wanna see some top tier normalmaps in deferred

[mellow inlet]

I can probably do that.

I’d just need to fix my color grading, atmospherics, water, point lights, fog, and like everything.

(Somebody please tell me how to get deferred to look good )

[honest oracle]

So cool！！

[mellow inlet]

yo that’s some nice POM

Is that YSS or something else?

[rancid zodiac]

has to be yss se right?

[placid willow]

Yssbe (hal engine)

Some old screenshots using vanillaccurate resource pack

[light holly]

pompom!!

[mellow inlet]

YSS POM was so good bruh

[rancid zodiac]

hal engine had pom? man…

[wintry lodge]

Not really

It was weird

[rancid zodiac]

fake pom?

[wintry lodge]

The engine itself didn't have support for anything

There was just a loophole that allowed custom shaders to work

But it was cool what people managed to do with it

[honest oracle]

No, this is also a texture and shader exclusive to the Chinese version, but it was released as early as 2022.I have been exploring the content of the Chinese version recently.💀

[lone nest]

The older YSS versions also supported POM

[honest oracle]

yeah

[honest oracle]

However, I still prefer the volumetric lighting effect in deferred rendering. The volumetric lighting effect in the Chinese version seems a bit overdone.

[knotty badge]

It looks gorgeous, like Genshin Impact on steroids

[ripe island]

late to the party

[vast sandal]

Strawberry join the party

[left marten]

[ripe island]

i made sunset a little better

[grizzled wagon]

Deferred Rendering - SmokeyStack's Super Duper Graphics Pack

@pure lagoon

[knotty badge]

YES NO MORE ROUND SUN

[ripe island]

What do you mean

[knotty badge]

All the Deferred packs I've played before had a round sun

[civic basin]

#1182091012177399809 message totally a round sun

Prizm also didn't ever have a round sun.

Prizma*

[vast sandal]

Thin wave

[vast sandal]

Midnight

[ripe island]

Deferred in 2023

Deferred in 2024

[light holly]

water improvement is huge

[ripe island]

2023

2024

[gaunt sorrel]

The difference is insane.

[ripe island]

2023

2024

[gaunt sorrel]

Good tonemapping+color grading goes a long way

[ripe island]

only now I appreciate how deferred has changed

[ripe island]

i never had round sun 😭

[knotty badge]

I don't know where it came from then

[ripe island]

wait, are you talking about pixelated "bloom" that was surrounding texture?

[knotty badge]

Yes

[ripe island]

oh it's still in my pack

but it will be less visible

I like it when it is very slightly visible

[knotty badge]

This looks good

[rancid zodiac]

man

deferred growing so well

[lone bone]

is there a release for your pack?

[wintry lodge]

yea. the new stuff is currently pending but i can send it to you if youd like

mcpedl probably gonna take their sweet time lol

[lone bone]

that would be great, I haven’t tried out deferred in a while now

[wintry lodge]

ok

i got you

[lone bone]

thanks

[wintry lodge]

sent in dm

[lone bone]

thanks

[lofty heath]

Can I receive it too?

*wrong message

[wintry lodge]

sure

dms

[rancid zodiac]

prizma pbr bow

[ripe island]

prizma bow and prizma minecart are only entities that i made pbr for

they are special

[grizzled wagon]

Player PBR when

[rancid zodiac]

wowowowow

im excited for when all the mobs get pbr

in prizma i mean

[ripe island]

it does get sss

[ripe island]

It won't happen quickly, but when it does, I'll definitely make it perfect (i will try)

[wintry lodge]

made some improvements to my warden model. better heightmap, improved SSS (not gonna be noticeable but its there), improved the roughness as well

[rancid zodiac]

yayyy prizma is the best

[rancid zodiac]

wait so basically we can have the dynamic torch light feature?

[lone nest]

that block is placed

[rancid zodiac]

aw oof

i thought it worked when holding or items are floating

[wintry lodge]

No. They just glow. No light is emitted

[wintry lodge]

new tuff bricks design

[lone nest]

Looks good

[wintry lodge]

thanks

[mellow inlet]

Looks amazing

[wintry lodge]

redoing all of my nether emissives to make it more enjoyable (everything was basically the definition of thermonuclear before)

[ripe island]

Deferred in 2023

Deferred in 2024

Deferred in 2023

Deferred in 2024

[rancid zodiac]

ooooo

[ripe island]

2023

2024

2023

2024

1.20.30

1.21.50

1.20.30

1.21.50

[ripe island]

1.20.30

1.21.50

[thick gulch]

Wtf

[ripe island]

?

[grizzled wagon]

What changed and how?

[ripe island]

what do you mean?

[grizzled wagon]

What was changed from 1.21.30 screenshot to 1.21.50.

[ripe island]

not 1.21.30

it's 1.20.30

[left marten]

it says 1.20.30

[ripe island]

💀

[ripe island]

I compared the first mc version with deferred to the latest one

[lofty heath]

-# When did env lighting arrive for dimensions?

[left marten]

Modified reflections?

Cuz that looks quite good honestly

[wintry lodge]

yea. increased their ranges

[left marten]

Hmm I see

[wintry lodge]

Pale garden with stupidly thick fog

[left marten]

[wintry lodge]

yeah im gonna keep the super thick fog here

[lofty heath]

tf... why did this fit so well?

[wintry lodge]

Trying something out. Custom leaves for dark oak trees. Meant to be more thicker and blanketed lime pale gardens and mangroves

[left marten]

Looks nice

[wintry lodge]

new dark oak texture. inspired by the new pale logs

[wintry lodge]

betterRTX

[vast sandal]

The atmosphere in the forest garden is very nice

[wintry lodge]

ported another high res texture that i made to MC

[civic basin]

🔥

[cursive geyser]

Ooooo!!

[cursive geyser]

(Luminous Dreams)

[ripe island]

@silk creek Hi, i'm sorry to ping you but i have one problem with SSS.. it's barely visible on leaves. It's quite good on other blocks, but the leaves suffer for some reason. I don't think I'm doing something wrong. I hope it can be improved 🙏

deferred

complementary.

🧐

[civic basin]

Pretty sure the issue is on your end because SSS works fine on my leaves

[ripe island]

it works on my leaves

it's just not that strong

[civic basin]

I dunno. It's pretty noticeable on mine.

[ripe island]

it's noticible most of the time on mine too

but it's much stronger on java shaders

[maiden grove]

Try using the same pbr textures as snow

[ripe island]

don't think it should change anything but sure

[ripe island]

still nothing

[maiden grove]

Is it the same with snow color texture as well?

Just think it would be useful to have the same exact texture set on snow & leaves, side by side, to illustrate that there really is a difference

[ripe island]

it's better with solid snow texture

[maiden grove]

Perhaps leaves are just too dark then

[ripe island]

😭

they are not that dark

[maiden grove]

What if you do the opposite and use leaves texture for snow

[ripe island]

i think i know what is the problem!

leaves are rendered in bedrock like this

and on java like this

[wet slate]

i switched with powdered snow texture to get this

[civic basin]

Would be nice if there was some material we could edit to get this. Not sure what material leaves use (not shader materials btw. The one in JSON)

[maiden grove]

Hm, hard to tell when there's no color tint, but I think sss shows up about the same on both. But perhaps that's the problem, and they should change calculations for alphatested blocks. I think their sss model assumes uniform block material volume, which makes sense for full blocks, but alphatested blocks are rarely a uniform volume and more often represent just a thin shell, with nothing inside, so we'd expect SSS to show through a lot more and at a greater distance.

[civic basin]

Can't we modify the material used for leaves?

alpha_test right?

I mean, I'd asume changing it would affect other materials in the game too.

[maiden grove]

No, SSS is computed identically for leaves and other blocks, and that's the issue. Using different calculations for alphatested blocks would require modifying shaders

[civic basin]

Fair enough.

[maiden grove]

Also this is not the problem, that's just backface culling and it wouldn't affect SSS because the back side would be visible on shadowmap, which is what's being used for SSS computaton

[wet slate]

i hope you don't have any metal for the leaves pbr

[civic basin]

Ah yes. Metallic leaves.

[wet slate]

i did have them it was quite funny with metal leaves

[maiden grove]

Metallic and sss are mutually exclusive so if you see any amount of sss that means it's not using any metalness and vice versa

[wet slate]

hmm maybe alexis is right

also mojang pls let the option to vanish opaque leaves via rp be added

[ripe island]

metalic leaves sounds like a crime

[wet slate]

it was for a side project that i was doing like iron biome

it looks good then it didn't

[cursive geyser]

(Luminous Dreams)

[ripe island]

complementary

deferred

sildurs

[left marten]

Deferred with your colour grade honestly looks better here

[ripe island]

thank you ☺️

[ripe island]

complementary

deferred

sildurs

[civic basin]

Photon is better.

[cedar stream]

We’re so close

All we need is better clouds

[ripe island]

yeah i know

[ripe island]

not really

[cedar stream]

Sildurs has a vibrant color in that ss

How could you recreate that in bedrock

Or is it not possible with color grading yet

[civic basin]

We're far from close.

[cedar stream]

☹️

[ripe island]

we still need better fog (keyframes for density), clouds, ao, better ssr, refraction, caustics and much more

[cedar stream]

Yeah

[civic basin]

There is a few things I hope to see improved soon.

[cedar stream]

I know we need that

What’s taking moyang so long to release caustics 💀

[ripe island]

let them cook

[thick gulch]

S

[wintry lodge]

RTX

Deferred

RTX

Deferred

Same sun angle, fog settings set to be near equal to eachother

And this is RTX without betterRTX

The shading of areas is far and away better in RTX. The fog rendering as well

I also had to disable reflections so everything in these scenes weren't blue

[ripe island]

we need sky reflections "fix"

🥹

[wintry lodge]

Reflections on (leff) off (right)

[ripe island]

I HATE IT SO MUCH

We need sky reflections config in global.json

[civic basin]

i think they can do what they did with SRR, where IBL doesn't apply to stuff when a metal or rough value is above a certain value or something.

[ripe island]

sure, but i would like to lower sky reflections even on high reflective blocks

[gaunt sorrel]

What did you do? You managed to make the SSS more prominant?

[ripe island]

It was about fog 😭

[wintry lodge]

Redone diamond texture

[wintry lodge]

RTX

[wintry lodge]

my new quartz texture is cooking

[rancid zodiac]

my gosh

i hope deferred can even come remotely close to this beauty

[wintry lodge]

The exposure here is terrible. Working on a fix but, RTGI go brrrr

[rancid zodiac]

man…

what about deferred

[wintry lodge]

likely not good. i can test though

[wintry lodge]

yea............ no

it gets slaughtered 😭

but thats ok

[wintry lodge]

this isnt deferred's final form anyway

[rancid zodiac]

opf

[rancid zodiac]

sniffs rtx?

[wintry lodge]

Yes

It's a very different style than I'm used to making

This one tries to stay very true to vanilla RTX but with some improvements thrown in

Keyword here is "tries"

I took some liberties like improved time of day colors cuz vanilla RTX lighting was WAYYY to white

Vanilla

My edit

Vanilla

My edit

[lofty heath]

-# Do lava pools still exist???

[vast sandal]

just a concept

[civic basin]

Birch forest - Luminous Dreams.

Looking for feedback, thanks!!

[gaunt sorrel]

That SSS is super strong. I love it!

[rancid zodiac]

SuperSub Surface Scattering

[civic basin]

ngl I expected criticism towards it and the shadows. Thanks guys. But I'll still take any feedback you got.

[cedar stream]

Nah keep it that way I like it

[civic basin]

Really no feedback to be given on like the shadows or literally anything else? qwq

[left marten]

The fog is a bit thick/too prevalent all over the screen, if it started coming in a bit further out, it would help with better visibility in regular gameplay

As it stands right now it's great for screenshots

[civic basin]

Thanks for the feedback! Will see what I can do.

[left marten]

[lone nest]

[civic basin]

Sorry, but what do you mean by "if it started coming in a bit further out"?

[left marten]

Let me elaborate, for example in the second screenshot, about 20 blocks away from the camera the fog/haze is already coming in. Don't get me wrong it looks quite nice but it's not the best for general visibility in gameplay. Most other packs have their fog starting farther away from the camera.

[civic basin]

We can do that?

Have I been living under a rock?? qwq

[left marten]

I mean not exactly but most other packs have it different

[left marten]

In Alexis' pack the fog is a lot farther away from the camera

[civic basin]

Hmm, I wonder how I would achieve something like this.

[left marten]

I couldn't tell ya how to do it exactly but that's what I've been seeing in other packs

[civic basin]

Aw, okii! Thanks for the feedback though!!

I always had a hard time with fog, lol.

[visual plover]

I think the shadows should be a bit blue/blue purple with how warm the sunlight is, it makes it seem kinda dull where there’s no sunlight but might just be preference idk 😦

[civic basin]

The shadows are blue, but not to the extreme like how it is for default, but I'll make some tweaks!! Thanks for the feedback!!

[visual plover]

Okie

🐈

[pure lagoon]

omg I love it.

[wintry lodge]

high res gold texture (there is a bug with texture atlas resizing or whatever, im not sure why)

[visual plover]

Is this prizma?

[ripe island]

yes

[wintry lodge]

Some funny epic fails for yall

[mellow inlet]

Very pretty

[left marten]

The sky is looking real nice

[wintry lodge]

redone fog for mangroves and swamps

[ripe island]

💖 😊

[ripe island]

thank you :D

[thick gulch]

i think the old one was better

[vestal palm]

Some screenshots from an upcoming revision of BetterRTX!

[left marten]

You and quirky knocked it out the park 🔥

Looks great

[vestal palm]

Thanks! We took a completely new direction and it's really good see a positive reception to it

[wintry lodge]

A couple more shots of the new revision

[rancid zodiac]

how could you ever stop playing minecraft with something like this

[lone nest]

very nice

[pure lagoon]

Looks great MADLAD!

[wintry lodge]

These are the last of what I have for the new betterRTX revision. Absolutely in love with what we've made

[silk ore]

Idk if I'm blind because I can't see the difference

[wintry lodge]

between this and the current default betterRTX is quite a large difference. The general lighting is different, the sky has differently tuned colors, theres some new fixes and features that I'll let madlad talk about if he wants to. But we've been trying to rework the style of the default betterRTX preset to be more atmospheric and have a completely different visual style separate from the visuals of RTX.

essentially we are trying to create a new artstyle that we both believe fits the game more

[lone nest]

very nice

[vestal palm]

Most of the technical stuff isn't immediately visible in the screenshots but I've done work to improve the transition from sunlight to moonlight and vice versa, increased the cloud rendering distance (which was equal to the terrain render distance by default), and I've made lighting in the end completely resource pack driven

In the end BetterRTX is going to enable much greater creator capabilities while at the same time solidifying its own visual style

[lone nest]

W

[ripe island]

the end completely resource pack driven? i smell trouble with my pack

[vestal palm]

Yeah that's why we're releasing it as an experiemental preset

[lone nest]

cant wait

[wintry lodge]

the resource pack end stuff is really nice and will be great (assuming pack creators change some things to utilize the way its being done)

but this change opens up the opportunity for things like addons to utilize custom end fogs and have them be BetterRTX compatible

or if the end ever got new biomes

[wintry lodge]

this is so gorgeous

[wintry lodge]

redone stonebrick family

[silk ore]

Idk it looks like pom if you are far

[wintry lodge]

Current WIP aces tonemap

Also mojang PLEASE let us configure the tonemapping curve

Aces clips to white way to fast

Makes everything look muted in shadows and dimmer lit areas

[silk creek]

@wintry lodge Yeah, we've had similar complaints internally. We're looking into a more customizable tone mapping operator, so stay tuned for future updates. 🙏

This presentation from Timothy Lottes at AMD has some really great ideas in our opinion (Part 2, starting on slide 29): https://gpuopen.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/GdcVdrLottes.pdf

[lone nest]

[maiden grove]

hm monke

[silk creek]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[wintry lodge]

Omg yes. This has been a big complaint I've had with the current color grading and tonemapping system after learning how it works in other engines more deeply. Very excited for this

[maiden grove]

Sadly there is a bug due to which smooth normals don't initialise correctly if you reload the world with deferred turned on

[lone nest]

minecraft blender edition

[silk creek]

after learning how it works in other engines more deeply

If nothing else, that our pipeline inspired you to research things like color grading and tone mapping in other engines makes my day. ❤️

Learning about film, graphics and overall pretty pixels is what it's all about at the end of the day

[wintry lodge]

I've done some reading up on how unreal engine handles filmic tonemapping

And what all the different things do etc

And unity HDRP has a custom tonemapping option that looked cool. I just defaulted to aces for my current project

[silk creek]

Nice! Those are good reads for sure, if they're the ones I'm thinking of. Ghost of Tsushima has some really cutting edge stuff too that you can find online if you're interested in more.

[wintry lodge]

https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/color-grading-and-filmic-tonemapper?application_version=4.27

this one

it was great because of the intereractive sliders and stuff

helped me make a very finely tuned aces configuration

that aces configuration in question. I feel like i got it balanced well

im defintiely gonna see if i can make it work for deferred haha

[lone nest]

I love the water texture

[wintry lodge]

Thanks! Took awhile to get it here but I'm happy with it

[mellow inlet]

This would be awesome!

[thick gulch]

Monkey

Render

Banana

[maiden grove]

https://tenor.com/view/rotating-banana-meme-rotating-banana-banana-faster-faster-and-faster-gif-18265963

[wintry lodge]

loaded (assumed) deferred caustics png in rtx with betterRTX these look amazing (this is utilizing reflected caustics feature) pixelated caustics fit so well for the game. I believe the old RTX tech demo used this style

[lone nest]

Oh wow

[wintry lodge]

pixelated caustics is such a W move

these look like the exact ones in the series X RTX tech demo video from digital foundry

[ripe island]

eww

it's to thick

[left marten]

Looks quite nice

[mellow inlet]

I wish the caustics were pixel-locked tbh

the warping and gliding feels off to me

[wintry lodge]

Idk these function exactly like RTX so it's possible they may work differently when deferred gets them

But also the reflected caustics feature is a bit wonky as it is. I agree with the pixel locking

[lofty heath]

the second image became my favorite image of this year

[mellow inlet]

Color grading looks really good

pretty

[ripe island]

thank you ^^

[knotty badge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-love-cat-heart-cat-heart-eyes-heart-eyes-gif-23823346

[ripe island]

RTX

[knotty badge]

The colors are really gorgeous

Soft and yet strong at the same time

[ripe island]

thank you!! I tried really hard to make my color grading perfect ☺️

[knotty badge]

Looks perfect to me

[wintry lodge]

finally achieved the baseline look of the water waves ive been wanting forever (thank god i have a much better system for making normals now)

[wintry lodge]

cooking up a new tonemap

figured out ways to circumvent the weird white clipping problems with aces, along with the emissive problem

this took so long to do

[wintry lodge]

armor with a normalmap instead

[left marten]

A tiny bit saturated but looks really good for ACES

You could probably just give the sun a circular texture to hide it properly within the big glare

[wintry lodge]

im gonna reduce the size of the glare. its a bit too much anyways

and yes. the saturation has been a big struggle. it used to be more saturated lmao

I have it visually looking like Hable but i get the greatly imrpoved colors and contrast of aces without many issues. I like what ive got so far

[ripe island]

i see someone enjoing my world ,'3

[left marten]

I wondered why it looked similar to some other screenshot

[cedar stream]

Animated cubemaps when

[light holly]

It takes 10000years

[wintry lodge]

Found a way to make the blue reflections look "natural"

The only issue with this is my sky looks white when exposure kicks in

[ripe island]

pbr

[gaunt sorrel]

The height map shouldn't look like that. The colours aren't indication of major bumps on the mob.

[ripe island]

What

O.o

[gaunt sorrel]

Imagine someone with vertigo

Now imagine if those patches had actual height to them off the surface of the skin. That's what you have here

[ripe island]

oh no, white patches don't have height

no bumps

[thick gulch]

Looks strange

[ripe island]

look here, it's not like white parts are higher

[gaunt sorrel]

Alright, the point is that skin shouldn't have variations in height

Unless it's like, I dunno a scab or flesh wound

[ripe island]

for sure but at the same time it will look bad on mc mobs to be completely flat

[gaunt sorrel]

Not necessarily

[ripe island]

at least in my opinion 🤷‍♀️

[gaunt sorrel]

Oh well, you do you. Just saying it would look better if done in moderation rather than everywhere you can put it

[silk ore]

🥵 villager muscles

[ripe island]

probably if I made normal maps (I will do it someday) mobs would have a simple rounded edges but I prefer to do it a bit differently with height maps

[gaunt sorrel]

Take the zombie for instance. Personally I'd only add height to it's clothing, and depth to its eyes to make them looked sunk in.

[ripe island]

well, for zombie it makes more sense in my head to make smooth skin

[wintry lodge]

pov

[rancid zodiac]

you just woke up and it’s summer noon

also you’re a vampire

[wintry lodge]

prime example of needing tunable tonemapping curves lmao

excited for when the more customizable tonemap comes out

h o l y....

am i still even using deferred at this point

like jesus

[lone nest]

[wintry lodge]

dungeon crawler map im working on. cool usage of the camera commands too (camera created by a friend)

[thick gulch]

Lags

[vast sandal]

Vanilla Enhanced

[rancid zodiac]

120fps

[wintry lodge]

i think ive got daytime down right where i want it

dont think i can get the sky any better

fog enabled

i do very much dislike how even a small amout of fog can mess up the sky though

[wintry lodge]

very early sunrise

[vestal palm]

Considered using BetterRTX?

[lost rock]

i did use it on the release

[vestal palm]

Recently I've updated the experimental branch of the mod with a bunch of new improvements so I think it's worth taking another look at it

[lost rock]

looks much better

[lost rock]

i installed it today

and yes

i saw a new menu

looks great

[vestal palm]

Really? I don't think I added any new menus to the game 🤨

[lost rock]

the installer

[vestal palm]

I get what you're referring to now, thanks

The installation process is still a bit scuffed cause of the file permissions needing to be subverted but we're trying to improve it as much as we can

In the past we didn't even have an automatic installation script so we'd just manually use iobit unlocker or use an unofficial launcher instead 💀

[ripe island]

old good times 😊

[wintry lodge]

man, ive nailed the sky blending

[wintry lodge]

water

ive got something cool going where the water is bluer the closer it is to you, and becomes lighter as its farther

[silk ore]

looks a lot like complementary unbound

[wintry lodge]

huh it does

[left marten]

This screenshot doesn't look like deferred

[wintry lodge]

means im doing something right lmao

[left marten]

Yeah

[visual plover]

Does water have to be opaque for reflections to show?

I’ve always wondered why every pack has it like that

[wintry lodge]

its not opaque

you can see through it

[visual plover]

Well not fully

But