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yet you've done it several times ... even tho the person who originally talked about their server crashing/deleting itself.... but you do you
then dont engage in the convo. we cant say anything anymore about anything because folks cry about everything these days. nobody knows how to communicate using contextual signifiers anymore.
you must be fun at parties
and please for the love of christ, stop derailing the damn channel.
i think most people are sleeping in, because they're tired of all the wake bs.... your messages proving a point here.
And I find suicide a much more harmful discussion rather than wake people
hopefully no one talks about a sword/gun fight in game.. cause god forbid
Also again... they were talking about their server, calm down
not once did they discuss self harm
this server has a lot of stupid rules/setups.... welcome
you shouldnt say "hate" thats a strong word, i dont like it... BAN!
(/s)
... and not pirates
so according to this, we should not discuss, the thrash band Suicidal Tendencies, the song Suicide Solution, or Suicide Squad, or anything of the like?
and most have nothing to do with the political term
the auto mod stuff always drives me nuts.
Like you cant say the F word, yet people say "wtf"... as if we dont all know what that means 😂
these places are run for kindergarten students.
Don't you know why terms relating to p!racy aren't allowed?
yes... but i made a joke earlier about MC's "pirates(singular)" language pack... and it was blocked... yet we can say the plural?!?!
fair enough
(omg this stupid slowdown.... )
they're too busy saying "six seven, six seven"
any sub for any curse is the same as the curse, since the curses is slang as well. most folks dont get that. if a kid says what the F, instead of the word, i tell them, "your still cursing, stop it"
its like saying "N" or ninja instead of,... well you know. its still the same referential context as the original slang, so there is no difference
if the Amish was a bot that had no clue what an advert actually was, yea
i think that was sarcasm that went by overhead
first thing i check when adding a mod? not if it works, but did it leave black lines in my water😆
there are a lot of special pinecones in the world that believe anything on the net, especially if it has lil animals in it
i just saw that dude get publicly executed by the staff team bro
his shi got blown SMOOVE OFF
thank god we know that it works at least
ai pfp dudebro in this chat with the most weird talk ever got shot in the head behind the denny's by the staff team (he got banned)
wait im just realizing the dude was also a server booster
i didnt see the not allowed topic post before it got nuked
im not sure what it was.
clearly smt about "minor" problem
tldr he talked about pooplitics + pieracy and got blasted
we all were,
i also joined the chat just now to see the dude get banned live so no i wasnt
We need Everyday Chemistry in Hytale as a mod. I don't fully know what that would be, I only know it needs to exist.
oh, yea, i was packing a bowl and missed it. well, they sent the channel off the rails yet again, so im sure that doesnt help.
i dont mean you, i meant the other few of us that we there before you showed up
was that an mc one?
No, it's non existent Beetles album from another reality made by a fan as a remix tape. We need that, but as a Hytale mod, whatever that entails it being.
ah, i remeber watching stuff about the "alternate reality Beatles Album"
probably doesnt matter anyway.
no need, i really dont care what that dude had to say since i have this lil custom plugin that let me see his messages before they got deleted, theres nothing much for me to care about, im just happy theyre gone
trolls when mods moderate o.O
I feel like that's a bit less likely to be the reason, cause I had a convo here with someone about that and neither of us got bans.
this was them thinking they were clever about getting around the block, but the bot was like," I have detailed files on block evasion techniques"
Oh, ok, yeah that was different from the context of the convo I had.
Wake? What?
What the #### are you even trying to say? Are you drunk?
most people test their account link with a letter or saying "HI"😆
you really must have absolutely nothing happening in your life to sit there and make an account just to troll some dumb poodoo
thats why its not a tag
Is this just what the modern trolls are like? Incoherent blabbering that feels like a poorly trained markov chain? I can't even tell what they're trying to say.
What? That was computer science terms. Are you doing ok?
It's too morbidly fascinating to look away.
folks like these most likely have really poor gamer skills and cant get past the tut, so they jealously come to troll those who actally can make a pick
waiting for that wave
Projection
profile pic is pretty cool
It's too good to be straight. Everyone knows that straight people just don't have the "sauce" to make good art.
What
You can seemingly just @ any user ever in the server lol
@GTFO
Man, I miss back when trolls weren't racist. They're just no fun when they're racist.
@fair swift great name btw
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Who the heck is Fried?
they are making bot acoounts on the fly
Me cheers
Ohhhhh.
Aint me cuh
that may be the lamest use of time ive ever heard
True.
non of those tagged users are verified from what i see
Why did you use an @ for nerd? Nerd isn't even a slur. Or like, a word that anyone would take offense too. Is this a troll or an actual child?
all of the above
@steel hedge @slender lance @broken yew @dense zodiac
speaking in discordian
Ah, I forgot that was an option.
If you're goint to use @'s they could at least use @silent
@quasi verge @sonic bone @leaden flint
yea, gotcha. im sure fried is trolling too since they just chimed in out of nowhere with a completely different offensive @
TBF, Fried is just being rude by pinging people, but it's not inherently offensive.
Ok come on, that one didn't even make sense. You're just slacking now. You can't even do trolling right.
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Did you know, if someone's acting inappropriately or breaking server rules you can report them by right-clicking a message and doing App => Hytale => Report , or by using the /report chat feature? It helps the staff keep the chat clean 🙂
In the meantime, Don't feed the trolls, it only makes them louder. Just block or ignore them.
its still trolling, especially with this other pinecone hanging around getting instigated more
What did I do lol? I used no offensive language am just messing around? Yall are so soft my goodness.
You spammed @'s, which is considered rude.
Yeah yours is pretty minor offense. Rude, still. But not that problematic.
Did I ping you personally? I've yet to see one of the people I pinged speak up and get mad at me.
if someone is throwing rocks at a window, you think its cool to come over and throw rocks too?
Hmm? No, I was just answering your question. No goal post moving for you!
It's not rocks it's just soft balls thrown at the walls 🤣
the channel is already massively derailed, to then have another barve come in and start the same crap, but with an excuse
^ Not a single person speaking up about this guy yet yall coming at me? Wild!
We did speak up and reported them. Now it's up to moderation to wake tf up
you blind? we all over that barve
Uh...
What do you think we've been doing?
Are you allowed to ping mods if someone is being racist?
Ladies ladies calm down. I apologize for starting something out of nothing.
bro pay 11-20$ to be cringe
@silent copper Apologies for the ping, but there is a user being directly racist and homophobic in game discussion.
Are they ever lol
Seems like they were online!
[Sniper has taken out target]
mod:member ratio is awful here so not surprising
Guess so 🤣
somebody needs to kick the clanker awake to do its job.......edit- finally!
Thanks for a good laugh yall have a good one!
beat it shultz
its what... 500k members, 3 mods? seems fair 🤣
If it was 5 mods at least it'd be
1 : 100,000
instead of
1 : 166,666
yea which even that isnt that great
and that doesn't even account for timezones
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Oh. My lack of perspective on this has led to me saying something stupid, I retract my point.
being a mod must be a pain though
the number of mods is at least tree fiddy
Are you a mod in a server?
^ this, depending on activity. If its a super active server u want to be on the lower end of that scale
gotta love getting ghost pinged 
I have to assume that mods (community managers) are generally busy with other things because it's clear they're not just paid to be here on Discord.
Why...? Wouldn't you want more mods on an active server?
lower as in lower ratio, did I say that wrong? 😅
Ahhhh. Ok.
oh wait yea, its supposed to be higher. oops 😭
You tried. The thought that counts and all that.
tis quarter to 3 in the morning brain is not running at full capacity lol
^ I moderated for a fairly active corporate server with 200,000 members but unfortunately the related game shut down and the company kinda left the server to rot 🥀
Literally a 1940's German for the lack of punctuation. Tut tut. (joke)
I still moderate for it but its basically zero effort these days
Was it the beat stars in your profile God that game was cash
Yep!
such a good game, shame it shut down ngl
Really is played a clone recently but just nothing is the same
Bro knows ball
fairly popular mobile rythm game, was #1 on app store for music games for a long time
it was live service though, so the end was inevitable at some point, just a shame it was cut short
peak
Could get good song from the boxes
yea that sounds about right, unfortunately they had to make their money somehow for all the licences
The only thing that was fully paywalled were the elite banners, which were the cool things
There is a scathing critique of the music industry buried somewhere in that sentence.
And the general economy
yea however you could remove forced ads for literally 99p so it wasnt too bad
legally they couldn't, because of the music licences
True, true, true.
Now we just got free domain classic peices in random bad piano tile clones 
which would not be possible because their game is made in unity and most likely used proprietary backend services that also have attached licences
which is what I was going to attempt, working on the server side atm
Tap Tap Reloaded and Hi Beatz have official songs (one is only on Test Flight though)
I know enough software dev to take a decent shot, but it deffo wouldn't be as polished
fair
We are sorry for your loss, that sounds like torture.
LMAO, real. web design is awful, still put up with it tho, i love making silly websites
I got out of it, because I started doing it really really young, like, I think I first dabled in it at the age of 5, hated it, and then switched to doing software and game dev when I picked up programming more intensely again.
I did the oposite I didnt like game dev but not I regret not spending more time on it
mmm end to end encryption
Uh... I think your english gave my brain a segfault. I can't understand that sentence. (T~T)
oops my bad, I started game dev really young but didnt like it over web dev. but now I regret that, I shoulda stuck with it bc web dev is awful 😭 easy but awful
I love how fast we can switch worlds. Was helping debug an online server then popped back into single player in the same minute. No 3-minute loading screens for us
Unless you unzip assets.zip into the same folder, then it takes 20 mins to load... Speaking from experience.
im looking to make the jump to linux, just waiting on a few anti cheats to support it first
Oh. Ok. I see. Yeah, that sounds sad. If you had stuck with it you'd be able to use languages that aren't blights upon the very planet itself.
ouch, that would drive me crazy
But one is more useful in the current situation (at least)
I only found out after two weeks of having my assets.zip unzipped into my folder, because I accidentally overwrote the grass texture, and it actually effected the base game with no mods.
So all those people telling me to touch grass were trolling? I knew it!
the one I play could be looking towards adding support, one of their other games added support so 🤷♂️
cough cough You should use arch, by the way. cough cough
this statement was brought to you by thigh highs and white monster energy
Thigh Highs: Yes
White Monster: No
Bath Robe: Yes
Femboy: No
And silly shark plushies
bath robe is real af tho
Just started with Ubuntu, but definitely want to try arch at some point
As someone who runs arch in a vm because solidworks requires windows:
Arch is great because it makes you feel like you're a masochist. Which when it comes to my tech decisions, I probably am.
[insert silly shark website here]
Blåhaj 🤓
When I scrounge up enough money I'm going to promote it from bathrobe to trenchcoat. Then I can wear it in public.
The lion doesn’t concern himself about what to wear in public /j
Bad part: I'm an idiot and keep forgetting to fix grub so I have to manually mount and launch it from the grub rescue menu everytime.
Arch has it's ups and downs. If you're an idiot, you'll shoot yourself in the foot quite badly.
lol
If only, unfortunately, I do have to live in society... Sadness. (Also I'm more of a malnourished gazelle than a lion.)
Yes. IIRC it is. I'm 90% sure it is. But you asking makes me unsure that's what it actually is.
ik some linux distros have secure boot
Secure Boot bad.
But do not disable it if you have it enabled because it nukes your windows install.
Nah that’s real though, I just have less care ig
yea that doesnt surprise me
all my stuff is synced on github/my own forgejo instance so I dont have anything to worry about on my pc 🤷♂️
As a malnourished 45 50 kg man, I kinda have to rely on others to live. So, you know. Slightly different situations if I had to wager.
Worry not, I'm not stupid enough to mess with trying to get stuff working on that level because I can't risk nuking my windows install.
Didn't Tor have that huge scandal thing a few months ago? Or was that faux outrage?
Most Tech Literate Web Dev...
(T~T)
I mean, yeah, I do rely on others though, because I sleep through alarms and forget to manage most of my daily necessities
anyway, imma dip. tis late
thanks for the chat lads
Dang, it's me if I wasn't malnourished and feeble and weak.
Night. @hidden anvil
Have funs
Effectively lmao
I find the lack of bear cubs disturbing
You know what they say about tracking people who don't leave behind footprints.
Nah?
What kind of response is nah?
Basically, because everyone leaves a footprint, if you don't leave a footprint, you're just as easy to track as someone who does leave a footprint, because so few people don't leave footprints.
Like if there was a random invisible person moving through a crowd in NYC central square, it'd be glaringly obvious where they were.
True, but they do have a general idea. Basically it's a reminder that you can never escape the system due to how pervasive it is, that even anonymity itself is identifying. Not sure if that explanation made sense, it's 23:29.
Yerp. Yerp. Yerp.
One can not escape surveliance when it's all encompassing. Bright side is that when you know everything about everyone, you can't figure out who is doing what specifically because of the sheer volume of information you have access to.
Equivalent of trying to pick out one specific person in a fully packed crowd.
TRUE
Ancient Leftist Technique: Blame Capitalism.
Passed down from Karl Marx himself.
Even a road made of silk.
True, GN.
woah
?
someone who doesnt just ignore the fact that off topic chat isnt on topic
thats like a once in a lifetime opportunity
I feel like opportunity is the wrong word there, but the sentiment is correct.

Morning
Mornin'
Wdym mornin at 2am 
(Time zones, I know...)
.
2am is in the morning. just rather early.
yk, some people consider morning to be the time they wake up, if they go to sleep at 3 past midnight and wake up at 12 then it might as well be morning lol
Technically speaking, you are correct. And here is where I make a rude comment but I must start my day with the right foot and regulate the human desire to be cruel 
I've never seen it that way tbh....but seems fair...I mean is not common sense but...well maybe it is common sense...hmm...I'll investigate into that....yeah, seems fair
I wonder if we will get the full update release soon
it is EVENING, all of you are WRONG
(jk, I like you guys)
WDYM EVENING IM SO COMFUSED 
What are you talking about? Lunch is in an hour.
Fr, they are all wrong.
It is 9:03pm and I can see Jupiter and Rigel in the sky, because it's the ✨SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE✨
gosh I wish I had image perms so I could post a pic of the sky
But...but...but...by I'm south too....does that...but then that does mean that for you, is north...I'm in north..... but technically is south too....but...but wdym the sun is rising for me and for you is going....down...
how south tho
Wdym it's literally noon
Well, I'm roundabouts 2,500km (1550 miles) away from Antarctica, that's pretty dang south
The song was true....west is north, west is south...
...the Maldives?
Tasmania, Australia!
.....
The south-est you can get in Australia, the little triangle shaped island underneath the big bit
Yep, that's my call to get stronger pills 
(that's cool! Never been on Australia...yet, I'm more at the south than you...and at the same time...no, but it makes sense that for you is night!)
uh
Ah?
I guess it also depends on the rotation of the earth, but hey, south buddy!
South buddies! Yippie!
Spins around
spins around
Your me friend now Legend of Zelda ocarina of time music
I wonder where my girlfriend has lost hidden her ocarina, that reminds me 
Think of a dark and small place
I heard the south and was summoned! Who needs sweet tea!
Is it iced?
Of course
Gimme the whole package.
You got it captain!
Happiness
I also see your a fellow Zelda fan
Oh I wouldn't call myself a fan, I'm sure if you ask me something basic I'm sure I will fail yo answer, I've only played breath of the wild...and really never found all the lore behind, just defeated Ganon and rescued zelda.
You can still be a fan and only play one of the games
I've encountered very harsh people when it comes to fanatism, so i rather maintain a low profile...but I really like the franchise! I'm surely playing more of it when I have the money for it
Valid people can be mean but im not going to flame you. If you like the game either by watching it or only playing a little your still a fan as much as I am
Id recommend sense on pc you can emulate the old games
people live in the southern hemisphere?
is there a Hytale Java Doc yet?
By South I meant USA
This feels good to read.
then you're in the north
Well...hytale is built in java, it's servers are built in java...everything is...built in java, and there is documentation.
thought you were from australia or south america
Nah im American with a crippling addiction to sweet tea
I'd have to get a better pc lol, and a controller to play those games more comfortable
Following this logic, i'd be American too
Emulators shouldn't take much especially if you lookin for ocarina or majoras mask
where
Let's say...I've already tried...and I can play at 15fps, but it becomes annoying eventually.
@winged hornet in their website if I'm not wrong.
hytale isnt java it C# the server that run hytale is java
Ahhhh, that's where my doubt was...thanks for clearing that.
Fair
C#. C++ was the overhaul but they reverted
Mods and server are in Java to my understanding
Can confirm server is java, mods can be written in other languages technically but they have to be compiled to the JVM, in the end.
I wonder if you could use Kotlin
I'm sure you could - I've seen people doing mods in kotlin
i personally still dont get the existence of kotlin
I personally don't get the existence of javascript, typescript, C++, C#, and all the other languages that exist. couldn't we just stick with FORTRAN?
ngl, I have no idea what that is

Iii guess it's a very complete language that can serve as multitasking?
Same here
Nah, just go with PL/I
And now this is why there are so many programming languages.
fr lol
I'm only a Skript dev, I don't understand any other laungues, well I guess Python I understand and Java a little bit but I can't code in them.
It's an old programming language from the days of mainframe computers. The joke is that "why couldn't we just have stuck with the old stuff"
I just can't code...I understand code, I can read code, and I know how to debug...but actually code? Hell nah
Debugging is like 80% of coding anyways, you're mostly there
hytale really need to work on their starting server proccess
Whats up
I meant debugging in the sense that I can read a code and detect a bug
Exactly, 80% of programming is reading someone elses code, trying to understand it and fixing the problem in it
Ohhhh, gotcha gotcha..well, guess I can try
Debugging is life and life is debugging🤣
Haha fr
when update 4?!
Accurate
I dabble in Java, JavaScript, GDscript, C ++, Python, Lua, and a wee bit of ancient Ruby (Ruby 1.8)
It's more thinking than typing.
Yeah the syntaxes are the easy part, learning about logic, data structures, design patterns and all that is the real challenge and then you can apply those to any language
And of course deciphering other people's code
👻 Abstraction.
Dear God
☝️
Python and powershell for me
may i ask if you want to create a plugin for hytale that per say change some actions and some button functions to start a specific animation
how much knowledge you need to have in Java to make such a thing ?
and .. how many hours it may take a total beginner to learn the language
You don't even need to know java to do these things (if I'm understanding what you want to do correctly), you can do a lot with the asset editor. If you really wanted to make it a plugin, all you'd have to learn is how to setup the plugin and use the exact same files as you would in the pack
NEAT, so can you like make a mod about back dash or smth using the asset editor ? (the kind of back dash in Dark souls)
Oh absolutely you can! There is already some dash interactions in there too that arent being used atm (at least not in adventure mode)
Your only limit is that you are limited to built in keybinds atm, so you wont be able to use another key to dash. Most I've seen put the dash on the right click of an item
Man, not a single good language in that entire list. Sympathies.
Dont you dare insult my beautiful gdscript like that
I don't like GDScript at all, feels like worse python.
And I say this as someone who has to use it a decent amount because I'm a main dev for SOSR.
Then again, might just be an extension of the fact that I really don't like Godot in general.
It's great for game dev, just clean and simple. Godot is one hell of an engine for how small it is, it's my go to for anything, game dev or not
I have no idea what SOSR is, apologies
Spirits of Steel Rebirth, started by Z21 as a way to remake Spirits of Steel a New Dawn (Made by Gav Grub), which was a remake of Gav Grub's first game Spirits of Steel, both of which were made in pygame; but SOSR was 50% vibe coded, so I spent hours of my life fixing that.
(T~T)
I just dislike the architecture of Godot, and hate GDScripts typing, and its more python like syntax. Always been a {} & ; enjoyer myself. That + && & ||. Also () for my ifs. And don't like elif.
It's incredibly quick to test new ideas and create lil projects. I made a nice lil steam api interaction thing with it recently so I can grab some community server info for csgo, it took me about 20 mins
True, can't knock it for that.
I'm the old man yelling at clouds because the clouds have different architectural patterns that I dislike. That's how devs become once they become opinionated unfortunately. (Old man in air quotes since I'm not actually old by any stretch of the definition, but the point stands.)
I'm actually the inverse of that, I much prefer the cleaner func foo() -> void: return rather than needing to take up extra time with {}; && and || is a thing in gdscript too though
Ok, well consider. You might just be evil and the antichrist of programming.
Yeah, I know && & || are thing in GDScript, but the rest of the codebase uses and & or so...
I started with Python many many years ago (I feel old), so I got used to that first. Just quicker for me personally, and easier for me to read tbf
We ignore the and and or users xD
Hmm... I see. I used a lot of C# due to dabbling in Unity for a while, and modding Terraria, so I think that colored my preferences. Granted, I started with JS when I was but a tiny babe (5). Unless you count terminal commands & bash.
At least we can both agree that java sucks ahaha
Sucks to say I'm actually kinda getting used to it, at least the syntax side of it. Hytale's codebase is ruining my brain atm but I'm getting there with a few videos
Hytale's codebase also has the devil practice:
Getter and setter hell.
I saw someone use a @Getter and @Setter thing recently, something called Lombok, made my code a lot cleaner
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You're falling into the getter setter cult instead of just using public members.
Next Kami is going to say OOP is good, or that inheritance is a good design paradigm...
hehe its quickerr, although probably not the best to use
Hmm my background has mainly been OOP so my opinion is 100% biased, although in Godot I tend to avoid relying on it. I'm learning how tf ECS works with Hytale and I do prefer it but also don't prefer it at the same time
Hmm... Well hytale still has OOP stuff in it, in fairness. It's an OOP ECS mix.
ECS feels far better to work with, if you know how to think with ECS, composition over inheritance and all that.
That's kinda been my approach for my games. Inheritance with a mix of components and systems, but definitely not to this scale
Fair enough, not like games need to be well architected anyways, usually they don't have to be too terribly optimized.
Inheritance is only one feature of oop though. Oop has its uses where it makes sense, also overhead when used a ton. Like all tools in life, can be used right and wrong.
Meh, I'd argue that OOP as a paradigm is bad, parts of it can be taken out and used well, but as a package, it's the wrong approach to take.
To what though? That is the point. For something like a UI, really good fit.
I mean, I personally designed a non OOP UI system that I vastly prefer over OOP UI systems. So I'd venture to disagree.
Also Immediate mode UI isn't OOP UI.
Some crazy people also still prefer COBOL. It is a big world with lots of tools.
True... Can't relate to the COBOL enjoyers... That syntax sucks.
OOP has changed my life and I never look back
There are far worse, brainf...for example.
It's ok, stockholm syndrome comes for us all.
@torpid dove I actually like Brain####, mainly because I understand how memory works well enough to appreciate what it does. Though it's obviously not good for general use. That no one would argue.
Yeah, that is like saying whitespace is good too.
lol nah, just wait till you learn about the infra that surrounds OOP and how everything stems from OOP. if it wasn't for OOP you wouldn't have the robust infra we have today like k8s
Modern Infra is notorious for being trash and bloated.
I'm not arguing people didn't use OOP to do good things, I'm arguing it's a bad paradigm.
"everything stems from OOP" OOP is OOP 👀
go use templeos or smth then
Nah, I hate the holy C syntax. Plus, who would ever use a Christian OS? I shiver in horror at the thought.
Real talk, OOP poses constraints that require you to write good code. The code that's easily manageable by a team, or by a swarm of AI Agents
if you have no limits on how bad your code gets, the codebase quickly gets out of control, saying this from experience working in team
I'd argue it's constraints are it's weaknesses, like it's heavy focus on over abstracting has performance costs, and makes logicing about code harder, and obscures how things actually work.
That is true, no argument from me on that. A bad code base is a massive pain.
you shouldn't over abstract things. That's the real bottleneck. Everything that you need to represent in say memory, db or whatever from a physical world, can be done without serious abstractions
I'm a big hater of dumb abstractions myself, that's why i'm a big Go enjoyer, which has a semi-OOP approach
Main issue is that OOP heavily heavily encourages abstractions to an extreme. Like the getter & setter overload from langs like java. Hate those things.
Obviously a well done abstraction is good, I just find OOP encourages way too many.
oh yeah, java in that regard is garbage
Moral tenements of programming:
You must hate JS
You must hate Java
like for example in my projects, i get the rewarding feeling when my files are no more than 200 lines of code, stuff is properly named and it just * feels * like i could literally expand upon the codebase for years to come
if that was python, I'd be dead from the start 💀
So true. Python is not a good lang.
i full on vibe code js atm, backend and infra is the only thing that I review code from AI
and that's another thing, AI is just too good at OOP. It knows the context immediately if you have good OOP in place
Only vibe code that I don't hate on is JS vibe coding, because dealing with JS makes me want to commit atrocities to whoever deved it.
That's true, AI is definitely OOP brained.
yeah and at a certain point AI becomes just an efficiency tool as well, rather than a cure-all
but anyway, i just find it funny how AI is better at OOP, signifying that OOP does in fact carry meaningful context huh?
Yeah, OOP is good at carrying context when you have very incomplete information.
Part of what makes it good for team stuff, but also part of it's shortcomings is that by carrying that context, it incurs costs.
Pros and cons and all that.
i have a lecturer who teaches algorithms and optimization in C, and on the first lecture he literally said that if any of us in the room are going to build a startup, forget everything he said and just make the product first, then think about optimizations
Very true. When you're trying to make something always best to make the thing first before you start making it good.
english isn't my first language but you get the point
It was not evident at all, your english is very good, at least, to my eyes.
4 hours of youtube a day for the past 10 years does wonders
So it does, so it does.
Procrastinating on late college school work; doing light SOSR dev work (game); and going way overboard with my CSC134 class lab and making a whole interpreted language.
And continuing development of my Hytale mod of course.
oh wow mad stuff
Hows Hytale modding anyway?
I heard good things about it, but I have nothing to compare it against, since i never did modding myself
It's better than Minecraft Modding. By a landslide. Not quite as good as Terraria modding, but that's a really high bar.
is minecraft all over the place?
I remember making plugins for paper a veeeery long time ago, it had some quirks.
Minecraft modding is the worst experience ever, and would make even the most ardent Java defender hate the language.
Plugins don't really count.
lol.... deserved
hytale is worse imo
Ok, genuinely how. Have you suffered through minecraft modding before?
Neoforge, forge, and fabric kind.
Plugins and datapacks/resourcepacks don't count.
wait so even fabric modding sucks?
i thought the only reason fabric existed is to simplify modding lol
I mean, I just disliked the entire design philosphy of fabric, so my perspective is tainted.
My very first Java experience was Minecraft...as well as first modding... Hytale makes me want go and charge my head into the wall bounce off and go to the other wall... But in that other note I was using Intellij and Maven
they use OOP, is that it?
Oof, I hated Maven so hard, took me 3 tries and 4 months to get gradle or maven working the first time.
Nah, I just hate the idea of simplification in my modding. It's not easy to explain, but I just didn't like Fabric's approach to modding.
For some reason gradle was not playing nice. so i decided maven ... It may be a mistake but I have not tried the in game asset editor or any of that
too low level / too high level?
Yeah, I hate gradle. Hate hate gradle.
Maven in hytale I got working in only a day, so that was part of my pref for hytale modding.
Is it like Vulkan vs OpenGL by any chance? where vulkan is superior in theory, but is just too low level so you can't do aything before you write 91237541932 lines of code?
Mmm, more so that it was just weird to use. It's hard to explain, I haven't used fabric in a couple of years, so it's not top of my head, but it just felt like dying.
I actually quite like Vulkan. I prefer lower level usually. Something about Fabric just rubbed me the wrong way.
I'm using gradle but I just grabbed a plugin template from git so I didnt have to set it up, whats maven like? Is it worth me switching?
oof interesting
Maven is if Gradle didn't make you want to punch your own ticket and rip out your eyes.
Maven just makes you want to hurt people.
Java does in general tbh
Yeah, I hate Java. Hate Java with a burning passion.
it was good talk lads, I'll try hopping on here some time later, bye
1am 💀
Bye. Have a good day/night.
Oh and don't get me started on hytale class system.... I learned it is definitely not Minecraft
Yeah, minecraft takes a very different approach from hytale.
Try coding like you're doing Minecraft thinking that hytale is like Minecraft any amount of headaches that you have
True, that would be a metric pain. That's why I didn't do that.
your smarter than i lol
Do we have any information on the adventure mode, or anywhere to read about it? Been looking at messages mentioning it here in this server, but I still feel like I have no idea how that will work at all 😭
The experience of modding multiple games: Approach each game like it's its own thing.
As far as I'm aware, the only details that have been shared so far are mentioned here and in our game info page.
That I had read, I was kind of hoping to find more information on how those deeper progression systems would be applied, but if that's all the info available, I guess we'll just have to wait and see, I'm sure it'll be great regardless
Thank you for the help, Quack 🐊
Of course! Sorry I don't have more info haha
🦜
A lot of the future content is hidden the concept arts do show the main villain and two companion NPCs
I'll take a closer look at the concept art later, then. Thank you!
anyone wanna join a fresh server ? im hosting one anyone is welcome !
Is there any good hytale adventure map released?
You got to be careful with this. They don't like advertising.... Ask me how I know lol
even having a link in your bio might get you banned here
☝️
You can't even have a d. m. me for server msg ask me how I know
No you just shorten it to talk in private
That will eventually get you flagged too
Hmmm
That's ridiculous
Ig it will be a mutual .. mind reading thing then....
They are strict about the advertising
They're way overzealous with some little things here and then entirely lax / complacent with other much worse / more serious things and it drives me nuts.
Don't know how much longer I'll be in this server honestly. It's managed horribly and it's hard to even talk here.
Is it possible to see the console messages on a local game?
What's really hilarious is where Hytale came from.... Given that they don't want advertising. For example, the reason why it was treated I do believe was because they could no longer make money off of the hypixel server
I'm a community manager, myself. 50,000 members in one of the ones I manage, 300k in another. We don't like advertising either. That being said, you run into the scunthorpe issue and overmoderation kills a community, like how it's killing this one.
There's ironically both overmoderation and undermoderation going on at the same time here. There's so many words on their blacklist that it's hard to have an honest conversation and it's like that so they don't have to have moderators constantly involved.
There's also constant troll issues due to the lack of active moderation to the point where it's become unwelcoming to people who want a decent long-term community. I probably won't stay in this server much longer either, I'm looking for that better long-term community that's actually cared for. I don't really see that here.
Which was to the T what a lot of people are trying to do with hytale.
I managed the RLC discord community so pretty large given it's the most downloaded Minecraft modpack and without an active moderation style over their current passive style it will always require bots and filters I've always been a fan of active moderation as it builds a better connection to your community by being real people rather than just people who handle reports like a checklist
I've brought it up to people here before so I won't go on my soapbox but I've noticed how much the community here feels neglected by the staff and its specifically because of the fact they don't exist in chat quack has a good relationship but even he's not in here for more than a few msgs at a time and that's not to say the mod team is unreliable or poorly done I just think theres a philosophy issue with how it's priorities are rn
Also it's kinda funny we have 1 channel for unverified people because #server-plugins-read-only is read only and I got them to archive the old forum page because of people asking why can't they send msgs in it every 2 hours
It baffles me that Redwood's roof is... not red
Agreed. The point of moderation is to be available, but I just see the lot in DND pretty much all the time.
It is rather ironic
granted my role probably prevents me from seeing offline mods, but still, what's the point if you're just going to show online and unreachable.
This is mostly because nonsense pings and the fact they are also on the hypixel discord and server and get even more nonsense pings
Back in the day, as a senior moderator on Runescapecommunity I dealt with it.
dang had no idea my fault
thats really odd to hear tho considering its for there game im confused ?
Completely agree. I've noticed this is copied from the Hypixel discord's moderation style and that discord is also chaotic. This is a different game now. They have to make a good image for their game, project an image of a game that actually values their community. Especially since they have this whole community focused, modders rah rah kind of thing going on. In that case they need to be way more involved in community management.
It really comes down to the image the game gets all it really takes is some article talking about the discord being in shambles because of a NSFW breach and a strict lockdown for this game to get really negative pr
It's annoying seeing people come here and ask for help and all they get is ignored, or wrong answers, or people arguing over them over ragebait, along with the other symptoms of undermoderated communities
Imagine how many players they can turn off and foster a negative opinion of the game in due to that
Yeah or they run into bugs or issues and don't get direct help for weeks because they need to go through the ticket system
(don't get me wrong the ticket system isn't the problem it's the quantity of tickets that are likely unnecessary)
I need help
They probably need ticketing triage.
It's the first time I see you needing help
Yeah so basically
How i turn on computer
It's already on
Dayum man, that is really a hard one...crap I'm not even sure I know....puffff...I don't know anyone that could help with this...
BIG BUTTON GO BRRRRRRRRRR
Ok, legit honestly curious question - is there a way, without mods, to sleep to pass the night that doesn’t change your spawn point?
No
Probably not the intended way, but I think if you sleep in a bed, break it and place it back exactly where it was, it lets you sleep without setting the point? It's that or you have to override the spawn point by placing another one within range and overriding, and then you're able to sleep in the original bed without setting spawn. Can't remember which
Sorry for the not exact method, I've just noticed while playing that sometimes my spawn point doesn't get set under some circumstances, been a thing for a few versions now, hopefully isn't fixed tbh
Well, dang it. I was hoping maybe I just hadn’t figured it out. I really don’t want to reset my spawn point, but I may just have to suck it up to be able to explore while I can’t make teleporters
I guess technically you could carry a bed and sleep with it and break that because the game has multiple spawn points built in
Yeah, it sets a spawn as long as you're not a certain distance within another spawn point, but asks you to override a spawn point if there's one or many too close
what is IsObjectiveMarkersEnabled? is it the markers players can place in map?
Tbh I haven't figured out how the overriding works. I set like three close to each other and then a fourth and it suddenly wants me to replace one, and then I can go very far and set one, then set one a bit further and it wants to override
Sounds like it's either that or an unimplemented story mode function
can you mod like clothing and whatnot for ur avater into the game?
Yeah, Violet had a mod for that before she was hired, but it had to be made in-game I think
You can but noones made like a universally used clothing mod that others tie into
I don't think there's a way to add cosmetics to the actual avatar editor? Because that has to use purchased content?
Not yet
Oh, or you can look into how that furry mod did it. Did they use crafted stuff too, or did they use the model changing stuff in-game?
i was asking cause i was looking in #1462765340428861483 and thinking theres no way some of these are cosmetic options in the game yet
It's likely armor
Tbh I don't mind selling cosmetics so long as they dont lock game features behind paywall
The protogen head is either armour or an edited model using in-game commands
fax
I'd also enjoy a way to earn cosmetics but if they are the only monetization besides server hosting then I'm not entirely bothered paying
I'd honestly love if we could craft any kind of cosmetic to wear under armor in-game, just for the sake of more player expression, but that's completely unnecessary anyways
I think that's valid actually. Getting to craft accessories using boss drops that you need to earn sounds pretty cool
I want a full sun Wukong Cosmetic set for sending 10k msgs on this discord
alligator armor...
I think I'm seeing a pattern here, because I want more purple
Well sun Wukong is gold and red Chinese armor
-# I was alluding that our discord pfps match what we want in the game
I understood just elaborating
All teirs are exclusive to the early access
Considering how there's already a dyeing system, I wouldn't be surprised if a sewing feature was added for classes that don't necessarily wear armor, like mages and, possibly, rogues
But then again, I have no idea how classes will be a thing and I'm 100% using the exploration mode as reference
There's already a basically pearly cloth type so I expect we are going to get some magic robes for magic builds
Haven't seen that yet, but I feel smart for assuming that 🐊
It's creative only I'm just assuming it's intended use there's also leather and cloth rolls
I mean, it does sound very likely that those items will be mostly related to crafting gear to be fair
Yeah I'm just curious what creature would drop both cloth and leather unless it's all 3 because they don't know how they intend to use it yet
I assume we'd probably have to produce cloth through wool, cotton and/or flax, since all three are already in the game
Maybe we'll get a new workstation for that, or something closer to the tanning rack
That would be a Loom
That! I couldn't remember its name ☝️
Don't worry I gotcha it makes sense given cotton has 0 uses rn
Except for taming desert chickens!
🦉
Imagine feeding chicken cotton lol
Making white petals 💯 no more running around looking for white flowers to make crossed trestle 💯
Homebody problem I have double chests of flowers
My problem is with red sandstone cobble actually... 500 of them being around 100 crossed trestle is absurd 😭
Fair lol
My problem is that I have 4 rows of double chests...and yet I need more materials.
I am terrified of making a storage house. I have no idea how big it should be.
I have like 15 lol stacked at least 4 high all with different sorted item groups
I have a entire double chest for just sap
Don't make one, you will always need more...
@ancient tundra Oh boy I do understand that.
A storage biome
Chest trees, chested grass, chest a' rock
Chester...
Storaged water....
Storaged ore....opened chesky...lava storage....
Lakes are BIG chests that are just...big...
what is the stab item player animations for sword? i've never seen this beside stab dash charging
I have fallen in love with the wardrobe mod for my chest
We have fallen for it. It's beautiful.
Yes we have
260 red sandstone cobble turns into 65 clay, which turns into 33 smooth white clay, which turns to 66 white crossed trestle...
I will forever hate on the process behind obtaining crossed trestle until the day I die. However I will stop complaining for that is twice as annoying 🐊
I would love to have a chester in-game just a golem that follows you and picks up item stacks and puts it in its tiny backpack 🎒
and he jumps around 
Especially when I'm clear cutting huge ash tree areas
Hey is anyone else having an issue launching the game for the first time? I open the launcher and it 'fetches my profile' and then just goes blank, haven't even installed the game yet.
@ancient tundra I'm not sure which announcement you are referring too, I have had the purchase issue resolved but can't use the launcher to install the game
Restart it
I have close the launcher a few times, I also tried redownloading it as well
Very odd especially after redownloading none of the other recent purchasers has this issue after it was resolved earlier
So I am guessing there's no Hytale update tomorrow right?
Just trying to work it out, does the 3rd patch sit for 2-6 weeks?
i also have issues with having a bed set and sometimes when dying ending up back at spawn. So this world I have my base near spawn and the forgotten temple so easier to get back to base if I do die, and to get my new memories uploaded. so for now having bases nearish to spawn seems necessary
ooooh did violet get hired? I love her funiture modpack
do we have a use for the cotton we grow yet? I may have missed something obvious but for now it sits in a chest
she got hired first month yeah
so pleased for her. So many talented people doing mods i love... hope many others get hired too and maybe their mods included in the main game
I think so far they have hired about 5 community member
I know mccaw does a lot of stuff too so has he/she been also hired? I use many of those mods in mc
Macaw and his gf both not hired
I am not on a lot of the social stuff as nearly 70 so not up with a lot of the news. so thanks for the info
anytime! ❤️
has there been any news as to when next update will come? I am deliberately keeping my exploration small this world in anticipation of what may be in next update
I know they want to get rid of as many bugs as possible but haven't switched over to trying the new stuff prior. The worst part is limiting all the mods i want to add... I am a big of a mod hog and always worry what mods will become obsolete as the game develops lol
sometimes this week we will get either another pre-release or a main release
yeah the game is in rapid update which nothing really concrete
yeah and I am enjoying being part of the game as it develops even though much will change. Never thought I would get so addicted to it so fast lol
is update 4 coming out today?
Extrapolating from previous releases, the answer should be yes
in four hours and 33 minutes, I guess
Oh good, I planned ahead correctly 😂
I dumped my inventory into a chest on the off chance I get the same error that happened in pre-release; my inventory got deleted on load up 😫
(Yes, I sent a bug report)
How we doing boyz
not sure if anyone can help but I placed a prefab using creative and when I used undo comand it disappeared but a few items were left I can't break. Not really experienced with creative just know enough to place a prefab so wondered if anyone knew of a key or way to select the item to delete or break it
also struck the same problem with prefabs where I am removing something to place it else where and the item sitting on it stays and is unbreakable
Even in creative when you hit it , there is no damage
Not a modder - but that sounds like some of the prefab parts have a command of some kind to make it unbreakable, like you don’t “own” the block or something
could well be the problem. Atm I have a tavern barrel sitting by my house a block off the ground as I broke the block under it but if I try to click on it its not selectable even in creative and whacking it does nothing. I tried to replace an item under it, but can't so maybe it has been put on there somehow and is taking 2 spaces so to speak
You could try expanding the selection tool over the area that contains the stuck blocks and issuing a clear command.
I am a bit worried I may deleate part of the house as its right by the wall, and I am a noob with creative. The prefab was placed days ago
You can see the bounding box created by the selection tool, so just expand it to be exactly the size you need.
Time for my weekly check in on server performance. How are servers holding up? How bad are updates corrupting worlds?
i tried but couldn't seem to select it . the tavern barrel is sitting diagonally. thanks for the suggestion but i am probably to inexperienced with the selection tool , even when I thought it was in the selected area and typed in clear, it was still there lol. I guess I will have to live with it. I have managed to delete the wall bits behind but not the barrel and it seems a corner of it is in the wall slightly
It’s sad to see Hytale die before its full release, it’s jover 😔✌️
love the profile picture
why would you say that, some of us haven't stopped playing since it was able to be purchased
How can it die when there's literally alot of people who buy the Cursebreaker tier?
I guess some are not playing atm if they feel they got to the end and killed all the mobs it has so far, but some of us are farming and exploring, starting new worlds just to redo things differently
I was about to say nah, but I did a quick Google search and there are 2 managers available for download on GitHUb
I just don't get why people expect so much from a game when it's not even the full release yet. it's gonna be bigger and better once the version release finally happened
I just hope the game can come back to life in the future, google trends, YouTube stats are crazy the drop off in views and exposure is disappointing 😔✌️
exactly. i am really enjoying playing it as it develops
Ohhh,,, so that's why you think the game's dead. YouTube views isn't anything in a game, literally Apex Legend shadow-dropped and made billions without any youtube buff. As long as there are people playing the game, and as you can see, there are some, this game will remain alive. And as long as people will keep buying the Cursebreaker tier, this game will keep on standing
Its to be expected everyone rushes to try it out , but its still being developed. Some try it and then go play other things til the next update. Others of us are sticking with it and playing it with mods etc. I don't watch trends.. I have waited too long to give up on it now and am loving it
@bright scaffold try using nyoUpdates and install it in the game. It's a in-game mod manager
Just so to be fair. Your Early Access, is your release.
Hytale is in a very difficult position due to it's development history. So it must go out early get feedback
Personally, I would love to see if they can take a page out of RTX Remix and make a volume where modders can change shader properties
Or make Viewport and Display, and even texture canvas for mods to use
yes and the more feedback and suggestions we give show the developers what we are interested in having in the game

True! I honestly want more weapon types.
They have some as place holders in creative (like the longsword my sweet summer child) but how they handle combat is impressive with more variety in what players can choose as well as maybe a system where there are multiple skills for said weapons and playes got to choose what skills to use on their favorite weapons
That would be so much fun
Personally, I want more flexibility in term of modding
stuff like a texture buffer for mods to put custom display
Viewports and alike
Longsword will always be the best, I love greatsword in every game
Greatsword and long sword are different in my eyes both are great weapons
Skytale Crucible is amazing for its weapon choices and works amazing 🤩
i agree.
Id like to see them focus on bug fixing and tooling for mods/plugins, rather than adding new content.
They have a lot of content for now. They could focus on content further in the future.
Is that a server? If so id love to join
Lol no it's a mod for a server but I have it on my mine along with 57 others
Oh okay cool il make sure to check it out then
If you want you can try it
Once I get home for sure im at work atm
Holaa alguien que hablé español por aquí?
Update 4 comes out tom?
doubtful. Arent updates on tuesdays?
also if it were to come out tomorrow they would have announced it by now
update 1 and 2 were on saturdays
3 was tuesday
or at least what showed up when i searched #announcements was
1/2 - i think in the beginning they were just trying to get things out quick
3 - probably the pattern they're going to stick with.
Full updates on tuesdays
Pre-releases on thursdays
Thats what im thinking anyways
interesting
i dont see a pattern off of one data point but we will see
I agree as there are many mods already available which expand the game, plus you can choose the type of mods you add that suit you rather than have content for everyone which may not be of interest to others. eg mini games don't interest me, or the emotes, but other players love that content
i think about MC servers, and how you log in... they all look the same.
Same blocks, same biomes, same items, same mobs...
Thats why id rather see this game focus on backend tooling, so mods can help shape each server differently.
Down the road they can do updates and add content.
But for a game that just came out, it has a heck of a lot of content.
"The final and bigger part 5 of pre-release Update 4 is next week, lots of new blocks coming! 🧱 "
please... no more blocks...
also hi shane! long time no see (you probably don't remember me)
yes and you get to a point you done most stuff so start over in a new world to do it all again. My son got me playing modded and I think that gave you the ability to choose they type of game play you wanted. Many had a lot of mods added I never used so being able to pick and choose gives more options and the chance to try mods to decide if you like them
I need tips to erase my friend from existence, any ideas?
the mod api will be released any day now
Ummm.... /Kill entity?
God hasn't give ADMIN to me yet
it is, it's called hytaleServer.jar, it comes with every version of the game.
im talking about MC
Could there be a reason for that?
For what? Me wanting to obliterate my friend or God ain't givin me admin
Maybe both
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God knows that if I have admin, I would do a lot of stuff...bad stuff...
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My friend wouldn't stop making me laugh until death with a Stoopid song
Lol I don't think that's rationally a good reason to delete your friend🤣 🤣 🤣
Unless it's baby shark
It's worse...waaaay worse...
So bad that it doesn't matter how much times I rewrite it , the bot just won't allow it
lol
I just had an interesting idea: Avatar sharing codes
It would have to be implemented in such a way to prevent you from using cosmetics you don't own though
Explain further.
looks like a pile of fixes
Basically a code that you can import/export to share avatar presets with others
I'm starting to feel that they are realizing why the other engine was needed...less bugs to be fixed? Or maybe they are just...dealing with the crap the past team made. After that, they'll be able to add more stuff?
Ahhhh...well....that seems neat, the thing is with the things you don't have unlocked.
Yeah, they'd probably be turned to empty slots
Yup
the other engine was problematic or something, the reason why they went back to the original, but i think they had to rebuild a lot of stuff
Also you could use them to sort of bypass the 5 preset limit
This made me think that the work they supposedly were making about the game was just a whole of porting code to match the new engine so indeed they are remaking from 0 a lot of stuff
new games do have bugfixes
that is normal lul
goodness even old games have giant walls of bugfixes
I'll note it down. Technology is still unknown territory for me I must admit.
bro used stone tablets to write
I still draw using pencil and paper tbf
You know a lot. You spying me?
I graf prefer pencil over...ink pencil.
Mechanical is my go to, not having to sharpen it is fantastic
Im excited to see someone make a mod that ads a monster that clones players voice lines lmao
I love craving it with either a knife or stone
i do shade sketches, but i only use the classic oil based ball point pens like bic or papermate ( not water based or alchohol or gel ink, and no uni/roller-balls). they hard to find in multiple colors though. i also do pecnil and colored pencil sketching


I never said I was good haha
Fair enough lol
Bug: I only just noticed it the other day that the wolf running animation didn't match the movement speed.
Please report all bugs through the proper channel
has anyone been able to move the hytale save data to another drive on linux? try doing a symlink but when I click play, nothing happens
do we have a ETA on the update 4?
Next week or the week after on Thursday
Depends on if there is another prepatch or full release
Simon already mentioned that next week is a pre-release #patch-notes message
Oh that he did it wasn't there when he initially posted
If U3 is an example, it might be on a Tuesday, specifically the 24th.
And it was there, there were no edits
Day 8 of asking the Hytale team to reenable eating raw wheat.
Is it safe to play on a pre-release version on an existing save?
I'm afraid to cause issues in the long term
Generally yes
I will try to enable it then, I'm too impatient and having hyper focus on the game right now 😵💫
Game asks you to duplicate your world so release version is unaffected
When he edits msgs he deleted the old one first while updates aren't always Thursdays as it was clarified to me just then this will be a pre-release which are always Thursdays
Oh kinda like a backup, I see
Good that the game has that :))
Excited to hear new content/blocks coming! Needs tons more imo 😄 (I love what is in, too, but hoping for a lot more)
Do they ever post the patch info elsewhere? I don't have an X account/won't go there
you can see it in the launcher
right at the bottom you should see
"Version: pre-release/2026.03.12-b1f856309 Patch Notes"
Cool, thanks!
You’re welcome ... its relatively new, and its really nice they added that
I feel like it would be nice if linen scraps could be used as a fuel source, I end up getting too much of it and can't use it for anything.
We just don't have enough crafting recipes for it
Wouldn't it be great if Hytale had a public bug tracker?
omg... thats like the Number One thing i want right now.
I keep tweeting simon about it, but never get a response
(i guess my 25 followers doesnt make me special enough to warrant a response 😂 )
I don't think they want people seeing how many bugs they're tracking right now 😂
then at least let us see the bugs WE reported.
I'd just love to know a status on the things i report.
Im at the point where i dont bother reporting bugs anymore because i feel like im throwing paper into the wind
tbh, you probably are, I can imagine they're just as deep on bug reports as they are on support tickets
but dont worry, they keep hiring more modders to join the team 😂
They prob just have better things to worry about rn
This is why I mainly just give feedback/suggestions, most bugs I've run into are so common theres rarely any point to report them anyways
have any of you experienced the night time bug?
I find sometimes around 6:30-7pm... ill move around in my house and the entire world vanishes... i step back a few blocks and it comes back.
(i havent tried this in a while, not sure if its still a bug)
Don't recognize that one
could have been fixed by now.
I used to get that bug, haven't seen it in a long time now
good to know.
Does doing like multiplayer require you to have port forwarding?
Yeah
Anyway around it?
Tail scale
Hes already answered why that's why he ignores it
ive never seen it... got a link or somewhere i can find it?
Let me try to find it
Actually while looking for it I found exactly what your looking for hosted by the Hytale modding Twitter
@HytaleModding
Feb 12th @grand stag
thanks
Yw everytime I go hunting for a tool the Hytale modding discord is already on that ball
oh thats just an unofficial thing, definetly not what im lookin for
The modding discord is literally as close to official as you can get without the devs having a website list
when the big boss man has more messages in a unofficial server than the official one it’s basically official
I never have enough sticks. Is there a crop I can plant that turns into copious amounts of sticks?
Or like a wicker dimension where everyone and everything is made out of sticks and I can just go on a murderous rampage to restock?
I would be willing to barter life essences with the kweebec tribes for bundles of sticks.
Cut down ash trees I get double chests full every 10 or so
If you need a biome for them the zone 1 swamps are probably the best biome in the game for grinding
You can get fangs, light, medium, and large leathers, plenty of meat, plenty of random water pockets, and the bushes and thorns give a lot of sticks and the grass stuff I'm blanking on the name
big boss?
No one hears a word they say
Has the memory gone? Are you feeling numb?
it’s at times like these I need external emotes and gifs to express myself
Actually, I think that's just for the time being!!! Simon has also expressed his distaste with community management at the moment. But to be fair, they are super active focusing on the game. Right now the Hytale team is focusing wholeheartedly on the backend systems of the game. So modding capabilities, tools, etc. Most of the feedback will come from the technical players of the game, modders and developers which are active in that discord more than this one. There they discuss the backend systems rather than the basic features of the game. The game has a lot of room to grow in that capacity. Once we get to features like adventure mode, minigames, items, and mobs being added to the game, a lot of the feedback won't come from the modding community but rather here with the main community! That's my opinion anyways!
TLDR: They are focusing on backend first then once features are out, they'll be back here
The second-to-last tree in the Farming Bench, if you cut it down before it fully grows, it will give tons of sticks instead of wood.
It's my favorite.
At the same time, it is my favorite for wood as well, because it doesn't break dirt creating "roots" underneath it.
Looks like that would be the dry sapling, I'll give it a try
whats the source for simon on community management just curious?
Unfortunately I can't send links... so the best I can do is: March 5th reply to CyberAxe on X!
It's a long message so enjoy ahaha
interesting yeah at least he's aware
A lot of what you’re saying is fair. The official Discord has felt too locked down, staff presence has not been strong enough, modding discussions have not had the visibility they should, and too many people feel they need to rely on community servers, DMs, or tickets instead of getting enough direct help in the official space. I get why that feels bad.
As for why we haven’t leaned harder on volunteers: at this scale, doing so too quickly creates a whole different set of problems. Once someone is helping in any official or semi-official capacity, you immediately run into questions of trust, vetting, consistency, privacy, accountability, and access. If we rush that, we can create even more issues in the short term instead of actually solving them. We need to set that kind of thing up properly, and right now we simply do not have the time to do that carelessly.
I’ve been very vocal internally about how unhappy I am with the current state of the official Discord. We are actively hiring to improve this, and we want to bring more direct engagement back to the official Discord, including scheduled Q&As. (Last meeting about Discord, we went over all of this.)
This is really smart, and I appreciate it, even if it means we have to wait a bit for it to kick in. I personally think the current moderation is sufficient to combat some issues, enough to be worth taking the deficiencies with it over potentially bad-actor moderators.
I.E., Bad Moderators could be worse than what we're dealing with now, and I'd rather the time be taken to do it well than rush for volunteer moderators and deal with those consequences and still maybe not fix the community issues in the server.
At least we know they know and they're working on a resolution.

The Hytale team keeps pushing for long terms solutions rather than short term fixes for validation! I'm glad that people can't review the game yet because we all know people would review it badly and then never update their review!
Long term fixes are better than short term little patches that end up causing more problems later. May as well do it right, imo.
ok I just tried prerelease and found most of the mods in the world I had duplicated won't load. When the game update comes will I have to start a new world until the mods are updated. One critical mod I have is a storage one and I don't want to lose items or have them scattered over the floor. Just looking for advice for how to prepare for the update if it comes next week
I wonder how the mods makers try their mods ingame to fix them if you have to turn the mods off as the game won't load with some of them in
not being a mod maker lol I was just puzzling how they try them in the game to fix them
A lot of mod authors just put it out without testing compatability or anything.
probably the safest way is to start a new world unless important to me mods are updated or I can run the old world under previous version setting. Most of the mods I run are updated regularly after an update otherwise i delete the mod. I am too old ( almost 70) and not clever enough to make my own mods lol. So just grateful for those who are modding.
Depends on what the mods add, if it adds gear and blocks fs it would be best to start fresh but if its just cosmetic stuff then it shouldnt break anything
the main one that concerns me is one called Carsons simple storage whic is a bit like ae2 in mc, you can update the storage it holds so a bit like applied energistics but no disk drives and everything is in it handy to all workstations lol. The thought of thousands of items disappearing or worse being scattered over my floor is nightmare material lol
My husband aslo plays hytale and uses it too having both come from modded mc
up to now its always been updated same as the others so I will have to wait and see
Question ... Where is the best place to go to ask questions and get information about modding?
I am starting to get into this aspect, and have got basic blocks nd an NPC to function in game, but I am trying to understand a little more about how the more complex elements of hte models work. Attachments I can get OK, and I can see how to make ones that will always be there, and how variants would work for slightly less uniform figures. All really neatly packaged in teh editor.
Where I am stuck is around the weapons that can be assigned to hands and the drops. When I look at the NPC_Role files, it is a bit tricky to pick up how this is structured and some exampled I look at are totally different. I understand the basic syntax rules fine, but I can see things like Undead seem to have layered variants and inherited stuff, so trying to find a 'clean' base to help me understand how this file functions.
Are you able to Craft Backpack Upgrade II already? or is Upgrade I the max you can Craft due Storm Leather for Upgrade II.
this channel is where i get answers for modding and plugs
https://discord.com/channels/523059903812599811/1466145372534476931
@mighty urchin thanks 🙂
I wonder if Curseforge will start creating modpacks for Hytale
Probably.
atm it's just single mods but you can put them in groups already so modpacks will be a thing also the fact obly servers need to have the mods makes it so much better
Would be nice if world gen v2 could have terrain that made almost organic natural paths between the different levels of terrain in some biomes
Periodic reminder to get rid of the stupid constant online auth checks built into the dedicated server software. It's anti-customer. There's no reason the game shouldn't run on a LAN with no internet connection.
I am looking forward to when we get automation in the game like for furnaces. Has anyone heard any news on the progress of that? wondering if they decided to go with a magic type theme or the more standard animation like the create mod with moving parts. Keen to have a windmill with moving blades
they definitely said they wanted all sorts of mechanical things in the vanilla game, so maybe like piping system or something
piping and hoppers would be a good start
I believe Simon mentioned that he was hiring for automation developers a few weeks back, he also mentioned that he wants the automation in hytale to be more belt based, so something closer to create than to redstone
I may get my animated windmill at some stage then
yea, i have a couple mods for that, although i havent utilized any of them in game yet
seemd like a definite possibility
I tried a few mods too but the pipez would stop working and hoppers were a bit confusing to get working so I have left them alone
yall know any released mods that makes the thrill and suffering +++?
there are several. go on curseforge and search "difficulty" and browse around for something you like. and that is up to date
either endless lvling and rpg leveling, which is which
they seem to do the same, with RPG being a bit more in debt
how does it compare if i may ask
idk my friend, i dont use them myself
i suggest making two test worlds with them installed, and then play each one a bit and see how they compare
I did not expect there to be five pre-releases for update 4
Wasn't on the bingo card.
when does the update come out?
At least 2 weeks
Based on currently available information it will most likely come out in 1.5-2 weeks, next week should be the pre-release
thanks
Just realized, but isn't it a little weird that bow progression is based on ore instead of wood? That might be some very flexible copper, iron and so on
Atleast a year
The bow models use the metal as the reinforcement points
quick question, since we got blocking, shoving, and modded ways of defense like dodging and parrying... Would it make sense to increase all enemy damages tenfold then? not 1 hit, maybe a few. Aiming for a souls like vibe
Yes. Please, yes.
Hello chat
kinda pointless to parry, dodge or block if u got like a huge pool of hp no?
As a mod that be fine or even a hard-core mode but base game nah
That's the magic of Hytale- anyone can make the combat system they want.
Unless you want to focus on a pure damage builde
I secretly added a foxy jumpscare mod in our server, the 1/10,000 chance one
now I have something to use against them late night grinders
im such a good server admin
OH BOY
Yesh.
I hope your pillows are always comfortable
I wish the same thing.
This is foul 💀
Evil
He is funny. I like him.
🤔
Hey 👋🏻 how’s everyone?
Me is actively waiting for the proximity chat update and hoping for mythril
Otherwise im fine
Hbu
Yah that will be nice when they release it. I’m doing good, just looking forward to “Trying” to play Hytale tonight. 🤞 I work late so I’m hoping to have the energy
@toxic gale How long have you been playing Hytale?
I've been playing since early January
Mostly been playing on one server and working on a personal project
what's your personal project?
I've been working on a pokemon project mostly making models and a deltarune map with mod
Is hytale hype dead?
that sounds cool, i hope you release it
Probably gonna take a few months to get all together
Its gonna take more for sure tho since chapter 5 is coming this year
Nice! I’ve been playing since really recently.. I started a personal server and currently trying to figure out a way to slightly DnD it with slight character role play without overdoing it. I’ve been working on a base and trying to create my character sheet.
In the server im a part of i created an empire and am basically the richest and strongest player
Noice
What type of server is it
Community server
That's smol
That's unfortunate
Yah… it’s in my opinion the best game! It’s currently my favorite
I got no one around me that plays it, but im lucky im part of a community that already had one
Hi, you're stil better than me, I know 0 lol
This game is one of my favorite game for sure
Yah, your definitely lucky
On top of that its only a early access which makes it even better
why?
True
Cause unlike minecraft we're gonna get continuously new udpate with a bunch of new stuff
Agreed it’s like all the best mods in one!
In this year we already got 3 updates and a bunch of very nice mods
Yeah, and still unique
funnily enough I never played minecraft
Which is all good
I'm enjoying it tho
I'm trying to make a tower defense mod. I've no clue what I'm doing though so I'm struggling quite a bit lmao
I have little to no knowledge as well but its going pretty good personally
We gotta keep working for the fun its gonna get us
Yah… luckily I have 1 hour left till work ends. I work 2pm-11pm
Wbu?
Lucky i still cant find a new job
Ooof… well I do know that there are some certifications you can get that will greatly help the chances of doing an office assistant job..
and I'm pratically disabled, in short allergic to exertion
AND one is free
I got free healthcare which is good but my biggest problem i think is ice and the fact that weather is unpredictable
I could get free too, the issue is the RIGHT one
How do i report a bug?
in game, click the bug imagine
My teleporting portals are disapearing
Its in the menu screen when u press escape
Thank you!
Bottom right corner if i remember right
Just so people are aware, there's a scammer going around masquerading as Simon (username is "Simón" note the accented o). They're blathering on about some crypto sh**.
they are no longer in the server it seems
possible they got nuked by someone else reporting
you just missed out on millions in the hycoin surge, I put my life savings into it
🤨
oh crap
I just noticed the renderer has been slightly tweaked
Is it better or?
Yeah it is better
Far away Water is flickering less but it still flickers
I saw a reddit post of a private server having a player joined since Feb 11
despite having a password they somehow got in
the account name is Leijurv and I've seen this name before
Yay
yeah 2b2t hackers
the guy behind Baritone
same program used to automate things especially modified item deliveries
they're also resposible for the Masonic Eclipse which remains the largest Obsidian build in 2b2t history
yep
The build is so big that it's impossible to remove, the only large obsidian build (built by hand) that's been removed is the "OwO" created by the desbanded Watchmen
the OwO used to be one of the largest that's built by hand being beaten by the Usada Pekora Obsidian build made by the Japanese Army
suprised the admin never cleared it
Surprised that the Minecraft hackers have already found a way into hytale
Although the game has been out for two months at this point
Ofcourse after the OwO was beaten, the former Watchmen leader Beastmachine tries to do a build much larger than the Pekora but made a mistake of announcing the build which caught the attention of the Japanese army
I think they already did way before Minecraft implemented those censorship measure
thats what we are talking about them bypassing server security though this is like top level hacking
Ah oke
Minecraft just destroyed the containment for these people
Wow
The Obsidian wars pretty much destroyed the Watchmen even its revival group the revived Watchmen under a different leader who is no longer Beastmachine
good
the Watchmen was supposed to create a portrait of Rick Astley before Cityboss1 reached out to the watchmen telling Beast_Machine that their idea was already taken by someone else making a QR code that would lead to the Rick Roll
then the Cityboss starts contacting enemies of the watchmen establishing the group known as "The Air Destroyers"
Does anyone know how to make gold blocks
Put them in the builders workbench and click on the varias forms of gold on the left side
The game wont lemme put gold ingots in the builders workbench
In Hytale, you can craft gold bricks (decorative blocks) by placing smelted gold ingots back into a furnace.
Thx
justa fyi they cant be reverted yet
so dont make a huge amount unless u need a huge amount
you also can get decorative gold blocks down inside some of the volcanos in zone 4 where you go down to get into the dinosaur area, be careful of the lava tho when collecting
all gold blocks are decorative xd
I know, but I was meaning if he wanted them for decor
it is a good spot to get free ones though not like gold has much use
I don't make gold blocks wastin gold ore , i collect as much as I can there instead... tho I take your point re gold not having a lot of use
Plus I sometimes get lavaed and die lol but also try to get the ruby and sapphire there too
its always good to go gem hunting tbh
oh boy! Simon hypixel himself friended me on discord! How exciting!
Sarcasm out of the way, any way to notify the staff that some schmuck is masquerading as a certain sloth?
./contact
oop
yw tell em titan sent yah lol
wouldnt be suprised if it has the same chat filters xd
There we go
oh my gosh me too! unfortunately he had relations with my mother, so i shall be rejecting this kind offer this day
Bro didn't even bother joining the hytale discord with the account before sending it.
like, c'mon, man. at least TRY to look halfway plausible?
anyone know the command to clear mobs?
where's the production value these days!?]
its because hes already been banned with multiple accounts
they join mass msg then leave to avoid moderation tools
are you hungarian?
I'm romanian nice to meet ya
you will get better over time, the more you communicate the more you improve
thx
hmmm i remember there was a thread about SAO server in Community Fanart, anybody knows what happened to it? I can't find it
Might have been the old fanart that was archived
ahh thanks, true that the channels were changed
Honestly I just need them to add writable signs then I'll be happy
Does anyone know an active Hytale Server?
How we doin boys
meh. gettin niffin but salt and trash from the fish traps😞
Is Worldgen V2 ready yet? Or still in the testing phase
Isn't there a way to upgrade your luck? Or maybe it is place driven? Like, if you place it here you'll get nothing but if you place it here it'll be better?
Still on the testing phase
Mighty fine, just learned how to get foliage with sheers, been decorating my entire base with flora -w-
Yoooo that's so cool!! Any tips?
i have no idea. the video i saw just said to put multiple down to increase catch chances
Sure! Personally I like to put vines and mossy stones around the base, lots of grass and bushes too
My base is next to a sunflower field, so I'm incorporating a lot of yellow flowers around the base :))
Plus some kweebec lanterns hanging from the trees with ropes too
Try it out I guess
Ohhhhhh, that's beautiful.
What type of pattern you follow when putting the stones, bushes and other stuff? Or you just place them randomly?
Usually it's random, with blocks I use a checkered pattern to give more variety, specially with floors
I love that builders hammer, it's very easy to do patterns with it
Builders hammer...yeah, it's a very useful tool, tho I was a little sad it was just a portable builders bench, tho that doesn't makes it bad, kinda better. You can place your blocks and just customize them each by each
Well quite possibly the builders hammer functions will expand as building is developed/expands
Hopefully
I suspect at some point in the future given enough time developing, we will get more than we even think is possible today
What if macaws building mods are based on stuff he found on the game itself?
I guess? I dunno, the modders working on hytale are doing a great job I think
I mean, yeah, modders are making a huge contribution to content and gameplay, some of them are really awesome and the big mods that are cooking in the shadows? Omg those are something else
Yup! Hytale looks like it will have a bright future
Indeed
How is everyone today
Hey everyone!
I’m doing good
🏳️⚧️
How’s everyone been doing today
Could be better ngl, but as long as the sun remains on the sky, light shall be brought to clear the path
Why the guy erased those messages, cool inspiration where on those
what messages?
thats good
Something about Texas and stuff
Did the guy helped you out?
fair
He did his best but, I was at work at the same time and it got difficult to respond when it got busy..
was kinda thrilled for what he was cooking...
Got it, kinda sad but that's okie, just take your time Into understanding what you want to do and how you can achieve it with the tools you currently have. Some of the stuff you will have to do it from 0, some other stuff you'll have JSON files so you can modify stuff, plenty of things to think about.
Yah, it’s ok though.. I’m honestly not planning on using mods I want to see how I can do it without the mods
Hey there im finally awake
Hi Finally Awake, Im Shane

Wonder what you mean when you talk about "mods"...I mean ofc I know, but I don't think they'll be necessary
Such a dad joke
i may not have kids, but im old enough for dad jokes
unfortunately, i love making a good dad joke so i get it lol
I have a list of dad jokes saved on my phone. I call it my dad-a-base
shoot, with wither being linked we're not safe here anymore!
so what youre saying is, youre just jealous i got to it first?
well, when you put it like that...
(the answer is yes)
📷 caught in 1080p
Have you heard of the agnostic dyslexic insomniac who lies awake at night wondering if there really is a dog?
You've got me now
My wife is leaving me because I’m bald. I’m not too bothered; it’s hair loss
Dear God...I don't understand a thing but dear God...
I asked my wife what she wanted for Christmas. She said nothing would make her happier than a diamond necklace.
So I bought her nothing
Welcome to the gambling addicts meeting!
I bet you’re all excited to be here today
i have an extensive seashell collection i keep scattered across the beaches of the world.
My house is haunted by a chicken. A poultrygeist. I plan to call an eggsorcist to help it cross to the other side.
Decorativetely gorgeous...how about making a sky island and making a waterfall that lands nearby the seashells?
someone hytale?
Sometimes hytale
Somewhere hytale