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I joined like an hour ago so umm I have no idea what's going on so can one of u help me
Or inform me
@dapper warren, is it raid timeā¦.?
idk
Iām confused now
Your new to the bot or the server in general?
Yes
Well you can look in #šsb-info to understand how to play it
Ok thank you
#š£sb-announcements What does that mean?
I guess itās just health.
Because it doesnāt show the defense stat during the raid
no
just attack and stamina less influencing now
as i said in #š£sb-announcements
Is there a formula for how much damage you do during a raid?
Does health or defense do anything in the raid?
no
Is it the exact same for wars?
i explained wars before
attacks on wars is just chance to win
and no other stats on wars
Okay, thanks
@dapper warren have the health of the raid bosses also changed? Because if almost everyone is going to be dealing less than 800 damage, we stand no chance against a boss with even 20K.
boss health depends on participants stats
oh okay
there is always one defeater and 25% survivors
E

3/23 isn't 25% @dapper warren
Nor is 3/34
Still
My problem is that they always say it's 25% survivors
It usually is way less
And some times it's half
Well for it to be 25% of people, it would need to be in a non random configuration.
Whoās they?
They always say survival rate is 25 when in reality it depends on whether or not players ate/gemmed up
But I guess it would be fair to assume nikon is just rounding and that this conversion was pointless
there is also a huge damage gap between most people, and the active people
I think he is doing it so that not the same people win over and over
Meh
Yeah most active players have a spell by now
Yeah definitely
But the issue is if it's only endgame spells then the magic oriented specie is a bit pointless at early stage
I still don't have one
and when I have my main armor equipped, I'm in the top 5 lmao
Welp luck also plays a part
I don't either
Yeah that's a bit meh
I think it is unnecessary to lower stats influence
now that we have so many powerful people in raids, its almost impossible for a person on day 1 to get a spell
Yeah
I was just exaggerating a bit
oh, are you talking about the damage nerf?
But that also encourages new players to continue playing
Meh
And early stage people who got spells can oriented themselves to magic species
They are still able to surpass top 10
Meh
But most people leave early game
We don't have enough raids for everyone to have a good chance at spells
yeah true
If we had more raids every day then ya nerf the dmg influence
I'm #2 place pog
Nice lol, me and boar moved over to stamina builds already. So we really dropped in rankings
Matt you should ask Atsu or Jimono about getting fireballs
Ahh
Why?
Stamina isn't op
Because now stamina and attack do the same damage in raids. Check my message to the guild server
It is now
Hmmmmm
Using stamina gems is 5x as effective as attack gems
Idk what the formula for raid damage was before, but now attack is less important, and each of them contribute the same amount of damage.
War still is atk so I'm keeping my set as I don't do raids often
What Iām doing is Iām going to have 3 sets, one for dungeon which is focusing on multiple stats, one thatās for raids which is all stamina gems, and one for wars which is all attack gems
Ya that makes the most sense
I gotta maximize my chances of getting spells
Wow
That is good idea
I thought of that, too.
I spent 600 earlier and only got 69, and it was even on a brand new set of armor
Itās 4:30am lmao, I gotta go to bed now. Iāll be back on in 45min to check for a raid.
What does he mean by attack & stamina have less influence on raids?
They don't do as much anymore to make it more fair I guess
But they are still nerfing the people at the bottom so nothing really changes besides boss hp
@dapper warren if you nerf stamina and atk aren't you just technically decreasing the dmg everyone does and therefore making it just look like it has less hp?
But the outcome is the same
@lean hare and @molten void but ya isn't the raid nerf just more of a visual change on hp as everyone's stamina and attack gets nerfed?
Basically nothing changes besides what the boss's hp looks like
It was multiply, now its just summing, so less influence. Like, people with less attack have more chances now, smaller gap
?
Sorry for my bad grammar
Basically if it somehow decreases for high leveled players
Then low level players are also affected
player 1: 200 attack * 400 stamina * 0.05(general coef) = 4000;
player 2: 15 attack * 200 stamina * 0.05 = 150;
this was before, but how about now:
200 attack + 400 stamina = 600;
15 attack + 200 stamina = 215;
so it was 96.25% difference before, and 64% difference now
clearly
chances for low level players more now
Hmmm
That makes sense
But now could player 1 just get full stamina gear for raids then?
All you probably did was change the endgame meta gear for raids
So people will now probably have two sets of gear
One stamina only
And the other atk only for wars
And dungeon
Basically end game people used to pump only their attack
Now it'll be stamina as you get more stamina from gems
nothing changed for this
And stamina deals the same per digit as attack
Attack gems give less than stamina gems
its ok
they can do it
i dont see any problem here
Therefore people to maximize damage will redo their gear for stamina just redoing their opness in raids
Basically all I see that changed was gear meta
And I guess less dmg in the end anyway
So it does it's job I guess

Bc no matter how much stamina theu aquire it'll still be less than when multiply
yes
So ya cool update
Sorry for @ing you about this
I was basically trying to sort thoughts in chat
And ended up bombarding you with questions
its ok
@dapper warren didn't the raid only break last time because ozdeni debugged during it?
ozz what?
he cant
only i am can use this command
Hmmmmmm
Ye
There was mistake in code
Ahhhh
i fixed it
I bet curse for 1 silver 
lol
I wanted a spell : (
Haha
About to get hero trait
Yes
Cool
After you get hero
Remove blessed
And do it again
Then you'll have evil and hero
Idr but more than bless
It does
That would break
As blessed and evil can't be together
So you get hero first
Then remove blessed so you can get evil
As you can't get evil if you have it's opposite
what
blessed isnt negative trait
you cant remove this
New update to the contact personality
You can remove the lowest teir of good traits now
That's how I have evil and hero
@umbral anvil
...
I leave this game
?
What?
suddenly?

All the people from TFF are leaving

Ah
šØ Banned rindou dn#7171 indefinitely
Got hero trait
Its such a pain to heal 
Nah it's not
I have no words to show my feelings
When you have 350 health and have to consume like 20 cfood it is
Then just don't have over 300 HP
Simple
But its convenient

Raids
why I still playing this?
I have a lot of old games I could play and I want to play
We are trying to build a casino after achieving level 3
It turns into a casino game at a certain point tbh
hah, I wanted to delete my character but this is so painful to delete strong character with infection spell
Cool games?

Take a break then
casino
I dont gamble

well, more like to become stronger than to leave this game
but a lot of people will
but why?
they know casino is always in plus
There's no way to escape casino
Its addictive
hah

yeah, I think Pushkin thought the same
Russian writer of gold ages of Russian literature
Oh
He was a good writer, but often he was doing it just to pay his debt for playing cards and drinking
had something about 33 duels
Based writer
Sigma male writer
and his last duel sent him to heavens
Ouch
he died when he was only 37
he was so young
š„“
14 or 41
most of people say 2x
Lol

Lol
good to feel yourself young, when you don't have problems
when you just enjoying your life
with friends or without them.
ok, this game have debts, bookmaker, will have a casino
Hi
lol, are there things that are not owned yet?
hi
well, this doesn't really matter
Demand creates supply
What
@umbral anvil isn't it the other way
There can be 1000 people who want a one of a kind item
It can't just undergo mitosis and create more of it
and I can give them another
and they can like it
But if there's only 1 of something then that creates a demand for it
than more people to buy than more people who want to sell and earn money
Basically the demand does not technically create more stock. Stock's amount helps determine the demand for the item
But ya that make's sense too
It's just the stock is already there or you are like oh people likethis product, I should get more
Ye
I was only looking from one point of view
Not a mental, more of a literal pov
tf happening here
or happened
i mean irl, demnd does create stock, because if someone dosn't have stock then the buyers might demand it from a different seller
however here
there is close to a monopoly
and also an incredibly increasing rate at which things are made
aka massive inflation
How do you see the id for the items and equipment
_i e
Thank you
@mystic aspen ?
I restated afterwards
Itās been a while but I updated the trade logs
Nice
smhmh
Iām thinking of transferring ownership of the sheet to someone else
But Iām not sure who I can trust it to
Eh i bet someone would like having it
Say, does this list take all prices into account or just current prices?
Interesting
The cost of dust to make 1 gem is more expensive then buying a gem itself
šæ
all prices in the trade logs
I should add an extra column that takes into account the previous 10 trades
Raw food spiking is funny to me
macroeconomics cannot explain this one 
This. Using the average price of all trades gives us a very wrong output since prices arenāt permanently affecting the market.
Ok it's going to take a while to come up with a formula that takes the Nth term
Canāt you just add the top 10 prices together and calculate the average? Are they added on top of the list or on the bottom?
The formula you're referring to is (A1+A2+A3+A4...A10)/10
If I add a new log, then I have to readjust those numbers
And at the bottom
Yeah something like that, but isnāt there a command to use cells based on position compared to it rather than their fixed position on the grid?
I think a command like that exists somewhere, I have to dig for it first
I should become like a stock trader 
Market isn't so hot rn, the Nasdaq is freefalling
Chest cult has loads of adamantine
HMM
Hmmmmmm, I really do wonder

We may be the most powerful, but we only have 14 members
Yeah, weāve got most of the top guys, but not that many total people
@lofty dawn bad guild 
raid
please friend
Sure
sure pal
But itās planned to come in 20min
Just joking 
?
_raid start
_raid start


Same, Iāve come so close so many times
Whoās doing the betting pool
Is Steel better than silver?
soo what's the next spell?
yup
You didnāt dm me 
Interesting
I did
Blood rain, 10g
Bet Pool
lazydonkey - bloodrain (100g)
para - weakness (1 wood)
helvetricks - shield (5g)
Rings
I've been doing that
Curse 1 wood
shield 5 golds
Low betting pool 

What is the betting pool for?
just for fun
ok but what for?
Bet Pool
lazydonkey - bloodrain (100g)
para - weakness (1 wood)
helvetricks - shield (5g)
some random dude - blessing (12 bronze)
alright 15 minutes left
anyone else?
Shit they better make the bronze themselves cause I'm only giving rings š„¶
Hehehe
The moment you realise wood is more rare than gold in the universe
The demand matches the supply
Cause I have no fucking clue what you would need wood for
Upgrading guilds
Thats it.
Yeah
Because you can 100% get it
Idk what I have cause I didnāt look but if I donāt have this Iāll give something of equal or more worth
I bet 1 Mythril on plague/infection
No, two Mythril

And I want plague
Too many people have plague
I also want madness
Bet Pool
lazydonkey - bloodrain (100g)
para - weakness (1 wood)
-
- freeze (1 leather)
helvetricks - shield (5g)
some random dude - blessing (12 bronze)
atsugera - infection (2 mythril)
- freeze (1 leather)
@lofty dawn low bet lol
annnd 3 minutes left
Blood rain blood rain blood rain
do you change it?
current bet
Bruh of cause Iām at the very start
Good damage so far
congrets @vocal valley
@vocal valley curse me
This is bullshit
Please
annnd nobody won
Who won the bet?

Bet Pool
lazydonkey - bloodrain (100g)
para - weakness (1 wood)
-
- freeze (1 leather)
helvetricks - shield (5g)
some random dude - blessing (12 bronze)
atsugera - infection (2 mythril)
- freeze (1 leather)
I need to be cursed
Noone
Noice, you got a good spell @vocal valley 
Not cursed
Bet Pool
lazydonkey - bloodrain (100g)
para - curse (1 wood)
-
- freeze (1 leather)
helvetricks - shield (5g)
some random dude - blessing (12 bronze)
atsugera - infection (2 mythril)
- freeze (1 leather)
š

No
CNN news bruh

Fake ass news
Lmfao

No one won
Not according to the bet pool
āPara - curseā
The bet pool never lies
Yeah I'm sure


Whatās that?
I am sure something is wrong here
even without any other gems, I crafted 100 def today
š„“
also maybe 110 pg
I like how I have 42 crafted items
just stats error
and 1620 in matter
still a bug
maybe nikon is sleeping now
You crafted gems 625 times and used gems 7299 times
It makes sense
WOW
ah
this is amount of times I crafted things
thanks for explaining
_c
Why the fuck do you have to be level 70 to rise?
be thankfull it's 70
used to be 110
to be honest i prefered before when it required a higher lvl
if made by a blacksmith lvl 100, yes
If a level 100 blacksmith makes it
Hmm
Otherwise iād say an axe is
So does higher blacksmith increase the stats?
yes
Yes, and it makes it so you fonāt lose health using it
also it will completely remove the defense penalty
I thought it was a health penalty
HP loss is spear not bow
O
yeah, but elves don't deserve the mention
Why do bows do to much more damage
I still had higher blacksmithing than you 
like it's not even worth considering other weapons and shit

well. . .
yes. . . but
At least it took influence after the game
darn it
With archers getting 100+ kills
bruh Jimono having 4 spells with 10 minutes cooldown made his magic lvl go up fast
i think he already surpassed my magic lvl

beuh
I know the pain you feel
i miss every raid
wait for the time you will accidentaly use the fountain and lose over 80 HP




me: who dosn't have steam
Theory: someone is going to get so good that they can gain enough gold during a dungeno to insta finish cooldowns and start breaking the game
Ahoy!š»
notice memy mom
@tender meadow @fast root raid?
@umbral anvil raid?
@lean hare betting time?
Lets see
betting timeš»
75g blood rain
just a second
what are all the species?
guess
how do i get more stuff? m on cooldown for litteraly everything
Human, dwarf, elf, orc
Blessing, 10 silver
tge varients of the species
Its more of an afk bot
Picture
thanks
@warm spruce get me down
Bet Pool
very smol glonk - bloodrain (75g)
hypertree - hoodoo (10 wood, 2 steel)
some random dude - blessing (10 silver)
it gives people unlucky trait
How do you check spell list?
you don't have any
Ok, but how do you check spell list?
_info spells


112 damage tho or so
Depends, sometimes its permanent
Like which onesšæ
Iāll bet 3 mythril on bless
Hey mother fucker I already got that one
Oh
Choose something original
Bless, weaken, anything that gives a trait
I feel like those shouldn't be permanent
Iāll take curse then
yknow
You can use contact
trait removerr
Oh ye
It is random or your choice if you use trait remover?
Bet Pool
very smol glonk - bloodrain (75g)
hypertree - hoodoo (10 wood, 2 steel)
some random dude - blessing (10 silver)
matthew - curse (3 mythril)
Your choice
Wish I had some money to actually bet with
Im the only gold bet here 
10 minutes left
Im using this to through my money away
anyone else?
nobodys gonna win tho so
Bless is common to get
its gonna be freeze or fireball 100%
we got bless recently
I got bless recently
I wish I had bless
only 3 hoodoos total
How much does it increase stats?
same with bloodrain
After injected heroin into my veins im ready to kill the raid boss
madness and freeze appears to be common
2 adamantine on madness
and freeze hasn't been done for the longest
@warm spruce bet šæ
Bet Pool
very smol glonk - bloodrain (75g)
hypertree - hoodoo (10 wood, 2 steel)
some random dude - blessing (10 silver)
matthew - curse (3 mythril)
atsugera - maddening (2 adamantine)
Alright
i doubt bless
I bet my virginity
id say freeze is osmeones best bet
Itās gonna fireball 
nah magic arrow
Doubters bouta regret š„¶ š„¶
Well for you be bet that, whoever wins would need to come take it

Hehe
fun fact
Bet Pool
very smol glonk - bloodrain (75g)
hypertree - hoodoo (10 wood, 2 steel)
some random dude - blessing (10 silver)
matthew - curse (3 mythril)
atsugera - maddening (2 adamantine)
Turkish maxican cartel - infection (verginity)
I mean
Nah
No?
Worthless
Maybe?
he takes all of our virginities

Ah shit


I just come to tavern and read this
Wth
Lmaooo
guys
my dog is coming out of the closet to me
theyāre what?
2 minutes left
we got this
If i go first im gonna cry
Doubters bouta regret š„¶
i went first last time i participated
which sucked
Its not like we could vote for bless
Y'all still doubting tho
And y'all gonna regret
š„¶
and your insane so
Bless 100%
Bet Pool
very smol glonk - bloodrain (75g)
hypertree - hoodoo (10 wood, 2 steel)
some random dude - blessing (10 silver)
matthew - curse (3 mythril)
atsugera - maddening (2 adamantine)
Turkish maxican cartel - infection (verginity)
AAAAAAA - diminishment (50g)
Blood rain a good 20%
See, y'all doubting
current bet pool
ono he butterfly
Damn
The damage is unreal
Iām done bru
Who voted magic arrow
ligit first time magic arrow
Lmao
nobody
F only I went after him
O
nobody won again
No
Should've voted bitch š„¶
._. has it
Why, do I always come out a single person before I couldāve beat the boss
i voted for somethign esle
The raids are so easy for new people to win now
This seems like a lucky case

should have been me
@true plover
if i had remembered to eat
i would have done a few hundred more damage
and you would have won
sorry


at what rate is admantine selling 
30G?
Now the price will be lower

Itās 40
Nah it's 0.1g
Didn't Nikon update the raids so stm and atk doesn't have too much influence on raids?
Before stm Ć atk Ć0.05
After stm + atk
Doesn't that change make them have more influence though?
Ah wait it was a + not a Ć
Fuk
Aye, gg

i wonder why
Only limit?


But i use it the stamina

So only need to equipments to permanent upgrade stamina?

what does _rob do?

Yeah, magic arrow
Use it to find out
im scared
There might be some backlash tho
im going to have too get shot with a magic arrow soon
Wah?
engineer
Aight you going into "The List"
Ah
god, 2 devs, game artist, 2 admins, 12 mods, 2 trial mods
Takes me back to the time we had a comicaly large dev team
I feel like nikon has our suggestions go into an idea shredder
What happen if i use stamina gen on weapon?
Stamina 5+
he probably would
if he even realised we had suggestions
but thats mean
so lets be nice
and maybe our luck will improve
Who is buying silver and selling adamantine?
nice level 17
I'm selling adamantine
100 gold each or 1.8M in casino

lower it to 50% if your current price
Nah fuk their opnion, you can negotiate the price if you want, but i won't change my base price
How about 110 for 2 adamantines?
that makes lets see 55 per adamantine
just a second please
woo

can i put a hold in the order?
adamantine is now only 50 gold?
Sure
man these prices are getting cheaper and cheaper
just remember when it was over 200
or was it 100 i forgot
lol
I would say value went up
lol
lets see
Btw the 1.8M in casino was not a joke
i currently have 69 gold
I accept casino money
Nice
i only got 50k of that so

@dapper warren fight me 
sorry
i dont want

What does one do if they donāt get the trait needed for the second _rise
Oh?
Yo @dapper warren can you mute me so I stop playing? I spend way too much time on discord. I'll dm when I have more time I able to use to talk here.
i can in this category
Thanks
š be back in a while probably
@earnest oriole you can see category now?
Yep
Oh
?
@earnest oriolecan you see playground now?
Nope
Ok
Can you also remove me from tavern?
I have a math final today 
Oof
I had one yesterday, so I understand your pain
I had a chemistry midterm two days ago. I hope I did well
My math one was 2 days ago too
Idk what kind of flex it is if today is my last day of school before the holidays
Tomorrow is my last day before holiday
I got my 3rd vaccine yesterday
Congrats
š„³
Oh lol
was supposed to be a adamantine spear, but i overshot it
And i even didnt knew

That there are 59k crafted items
nice
Lol
mostly rings i assume
Definitely
NO! i feel powerful with it
Lol
i will even slap some stamina gems in it to improve joke
well the 69 part of the joke at least

You must never get rid of it
Never contact it
It would be tragic if you contacted it
Its sacred
This is a treasure to our beloved community
We must protect it with our lives
All must unite for this totem
We need to get it to 100 gems
oh goood
@tender meadow @fast root raid?
mmm
when was the another one?
the last one?
8hrs ago
ok done







