#🎲game-room
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@balmy epoch ahh question
What test is this
😭
This looks really pretty
Huh interesting
Your communist color shows once again walrus
NOOO
It says I'm closest to a centrist...
Hi kleza
Hello Belemin
What's your opinion on each of these 12 categories
What would you classify yourself as
Uh extreme left
💯💯
Federal
Democracy
Economic or social?
Fair enough
No is joke
Freedom
Nationalism
Pacifist
Multiculturalist
Privatize
Planned
💯
Protectionism
Religious
Progress
Technology
@hollow garden yes rate
What is that
Huh
If i will be teleported to any game its ok if GTA 5 unless its gta online
Insane
closest one to me rn I think
You are the most similar one to me so far
Except on power and trade
Kind of weird i have unitary lmao
Show 
I mean i did power press everything that said the nation should have power
That's probably why
Idk how I got that on power tho
You really hate federalism Nolt!
I was expecting a middle one
68%
It's based on the country
India obv needs federalism
Countries like Japan or egypt don't really need it
Yeah I get what you mean
It's weird though because you don't know whether you are supposed to answer based on your country
or like in a US centric context
Yeah
I think it was based on a us centric context tbh
Very much so
The only country with the right to bear arms as an issue is the US
BLM too
And the local governments thing
So you think that more diverse countries benefit from federalism while more homogenous ones benefit from unitarnism?
Yes
Mostly for language and cultural reasons
Plus, if the countries are large
By both population and land area
(Bangladesh would be a rare exception)
Hm I think federalism could also have a point economically
How so?
Fair
I'd rather have most trade laws be similar in a country, with provisions for interventionism in states that need to get industries
Each region would be best suited to know it's monetary policy and the specific needs it's people has
Although a unified policy in this is much better for the country as a whole
Yeah I can see that, but that's also possible in an unitary government
With subdivisions having varying levels of autonomy
And economically weaker ones having provisions to develop their economy
Such as subsidies
Or import duties
yeah I don't really know what I'm talking about
Insane
It's okay klez
I am a self proclaimed political Science nerd
I am boreeeee
Someone hosta
Or i go reading
Someone should hosta fr
What are you reading
The stormlight archive
I finished book 1 earlier this morning
Gentlemen, gentlemen.
I was reading 100 pages a day bruh 😭
Yeah thinking about it the economic benefits of federalism could be easily replicated in unitarnism and without the flaws that come with it
@wraith quarry are you here?
The main reason behind federalism is culture identities
Hello jarza
Yep
Hello
I was thinking of taking a break before reading the second book( which I am 50 pages in already) but fuck that
Damn is it really that peak?
To get you hooked like that
Brandon Sanderson is an awesome storyteller
You know mistborn?
Remember that one time I was accused of racism?
The dark fantasy thing I talked to you about
I looked it up it's high fantasy right
What is it about
It's the same author
My dementia strikes once again
Insane
I am not sure I can explain it without spoiling some major plotpoint
Ah is it a drama or more of an action
Idk tbh
There's been 3 main characters as of book 1
It has action
A lot of it
But also some dramaaaa
(not like those otome game animes...)
You should check out it's sample on amazon
Ah yes
He sample
Fyi the author is a madman
He has a literal novel's pdf on his website free of charge
You can read it to get a feel of his writing
READ WARBREAKER FREE TABLE OF CONTENTS RIGHTS VERSIONS COMPARISONS For older versions of the book, scroll down to the bottom. You can also find PDF and Mobile Reader versions of the book there. For rights explanations, read on. RIGHTS I am releasing each draft of WARBREAKER under a Creative Commons non-commercial, non
GOOOOOOD MORNING GAMAMAMROOOOM
HI BOW
HI KLEZ
HI SKILLA
HI ACNAQ
HI AMAZ
HI AMAZ
HI AMAZ
HI AMAZ
HI FISH
HI WARLUS
HI NEKCROP
HI QWAS
HI VENUS
HI QAR
HI WOBUX
HI PUFFIN
HI OIL
HI HONEYBEE
HI TIADEE
HI BELEMIN
HI FAKHER
HI JARZ
HI ZPLAYS
HI THAMIOR
HI EVERYONNEEEE
which one is better?
Yeah
unban him when
:)
is this funguy
@wild mason confirm?
there are more of me o _ o
I will gather the forces of Mordor. :)
NFL who will win?
5
6
2
Vikings
I will resort to my final tactic.
Places hands together.
DOMAIN EXPANSION
awh
it was cancelled out :(
fine then
SIMPLE DOMAIN
Hes currently perma banned so
unban him when
2073
south carolina is being annexed by the north
@silent smelt
@wild mason was @fallen cipher 🔵 ever winning this? 👑
1 def
i rise
@west path
japanese woman's voice pops up
"Despite such a simple technique, Simple Domain was able to protect the mushroom for an ample amount of time, at such a short cost of Cursed Energy.
It's a battle of atrittion."
left because i can nuke russia whilst keeping ukrainian territory safe
amen
~bt
~bt
@rose cape: * Japanese female voice * “Easy Zone is a very simple device. However, downsizing can be problematic.” Elderly people will also be saved.
@quasi osprey: ~ call
slay
check steam workshop 😈
North carolina is still soft, they wont have a chance against us
i downloaded a tiny amount of mods
Who will win?
3
4
1
Chiefs
@west path is this true?
real
I am proud of you
just bear this for a second
without my engagement boost, this wouldn't have been possible 🙏 ✝️
so true
realest thing said by jarz
worthy of an unblock
THERES SO MUCH NEW SHIT WHAT THE FUCK
sorry im playing modded ravenfield
NFL who's gonna win?
6
8
2
Cowboys
Hosta
Alright
i've shifted away from non-rulers due to a recent democratic decision
@brittle gust is Verti decentralized
as in, do they have certain factions governing certain lands
I will establish it this session maybe
I was thinking of admin stuff anyway
Wha
Aww
😢
@west path is it possible to get a map with the races in Verti
also its gonna change every few eras or so
..no?
they're all in general areas that you'd expect to see regular Verti natives
Atleast with like the 3 major ones?
albeit there is obvious conflict due to the fact that they have different phonetics, drastically different appearances, different quirks and strengths about them etc.
Top 5 or 6
albeit no major tensions yet
We have a thousand trillionaires in America
almost doneee
- Ithari
- Wy'stroggs (effectively users of 'wind-walking' that use their wings to facilitate it)
- Arthstoss (Golem-like creatures that have heavy amounts of strength but rely on mystical belief to fuel their existence, as they cannot muster the energy to survive otherwise. Some use mages to allow them to travel abroad.)
- Mistrillos (The elvenkin, they're intellectuals that trend towards slight xenophobia. They do however share some of their inventions and partake in philosophical debates, and have been generally good for prying open the views of the public.)
think of Wy'stroggs as pretty much just bird people
NFL who will win?
4
5
2
Ravens
let me note it down rq
I maybe will establish a council of 4 tbh
a mental note wouldnt do
@brittle gust are i cooking
L
do note that uhm
thats based on species size
Mistrillos have around 2k living members
Arthstross can be kinda unlimited you just need one to raise the mud near it into stone and then a golem
but they're not in high quantities because mystical occurences are RARER
More of a figurehead
@west path what do you say critter
too little pink bay seal representation
make everything a massive bay
So many places for the pink bay seals
more
This mw is gonna be semi-speculative biology but with the addition of baikal seals
They gonna live in that silly big lake
real
This will be so peak
There will be bug people in the desert
these demographics could make up a pretty curious state
And i know klez said that one color deserts are evil, but i will NOT be willing to change the northern glaciers
They are the remnant ice sheets from the last ice age
the solution is to KILL THE BUG PEOPLE
Global warming wasnt that intense and some ice stayed 🤫
his ass does not know how the ice age functioned
It will also be the most mountainous region on the planet so, basically nobody goes north
Its gonna be fun!!
My brain wheels are turning for the mw to be amaz(ting)ing
damn I have poll perms here
7
9
2
bad idea
amazting?
@rose cape reference?
No
rea.
why did fakher say this
least sweaty 2024 mw maker
why did fakher say this
Will you have dragons
Is this legal map war or not
This is what i wanna do
Dont be a meanie butt
@mortal moat @brittle gust @rose cape @spring bison @marsh lance rate map 1 to 10 (work in progress)
tectonic plates map when
Why are all the shorelines crooked
Other than that its very nice
That's the style
you're a NERD
@west path
Better than your old maps
Even worldboxia ?
This shit is garbage
It was made by general chat
Garbage
Pat if being cool was an olympic sport
Cooked
@west path are you gonna hosta soon.........
My final and most monumental task.. put mountains (🤢) in the glaciers
@prime compass
Nice, nice
Very nice
@brittle gust Verti has 115k people
yes
in 30 minutes
Oh
I might not add any more islands
Im gonna go hide as Beleius and train
im gonna have to lock in this session
Or like seal myself away
novak djokovic
must set up civilizations
Does anyone have a map of zipe from manneva
Real...
Ok ill go into hiding, training with the garlang and mastering its abilities
and approximately 23k undocumented lizardmen who kind of wander around the country
they haven't interacted with institutions and thus
Whats beleius kill count
aren't reported properly
You.. already know this
Garland
Sorry its been 18 years since last session
Did it gö up to 4.5k
like this is what a fucking garland is
I got this btw
Oh
less time than in between bowistan or fish mw sessions
All relics will dissapear?
Appear
Brb
whar
the control thing is innacurate btw
it should have significantly more market percentage
Racially colourblind lmfao
Im prolly not gonna play a decent bit since we will be visiting friends of my parents
But ill make a nice small community
@west path btw where did the surviving 8 Commanders and their men go
who the fuck knows
U do not get to hunt them down
Commander has a nice ring to it
@west path how long till session
There were 12
Should I add islands?
If so then where?
20 min
Is this for real?
Ah okay
Omg kleznam
Or it's a joke result
Hi kleznam
@hollow garden thoughts
hiii
yes
Hru hru
A small one to the east
And I think that's enough
@frank latch Nr'madia has 85.8k people (estimate)
I might have to help my mum with her school stuff so I might not be able to participate @west path
(I'll probably send the government system in a later time)
o
Can I...playa as the 8 Commanders and their men?
Yeah
no you literally genocided them 😭
What about good old verti
scroll up
Cosmic is hosting in 4 hours btw
i already gave you the numbers
I killed 4 Commanders, the rest took their men and fled, iirc
Yays
yes and that is why you cannot play as them
@hollow garden
👽
People could absolutely play both at the same time
I make it legal to Host 2 mws at the same time
@brittle gust what should I do in qeva mw..
Who is your current character and what are you doing
True
Kh'wal is currently the most populous country
We arent supposed to do non ruler anymore..
Im Beleius!
The Terror of Verti
Get yourself a castle in Bow's kingdom
not really not supposed to more so just limited in quantity
Make an order of knights
so people focus on nation management because the world is fucking EMPTY
I dont think I can be trusted
and i need time to develop internal politics and allat
True
I'd rather trust Darth Sidious than beleius
Atleast he only gaslights
Aye
- ion care since this is gonna be on the shorter side as i figure out these systems
i've made a shitload of them and need to figure them out to allow for smooth mapwarring
Relic awakening 💯
Cool
"Oopsie"
fucking destroys half the world
I hosta a few minutes early
so true
Relic awakening
can somebody ping the horde
💯💯💯
@noble cradle Wake up the famine is over
oh i ought to set up factions in the cove aswell
@brittle gust @elder arch @hollow garden @marsh lance @wraith quarry @fallen cipher The famine, it is over
i hosta
Yoays
🦏
now as for what i need to do
A dark, frigid year rolls in. Crop harvests have begun failing, and dark clouds fill the skies; leaving traces of sunlight scattered and small in number.
Lets gooo
Holeh
Meaning that @elder arch You're cooked. People are starving.
Don’t i fish??? What
Verti, Nr'madia, Faruqis and Kh'wal all have granaries and large food excess that they can sell off to you
mfw sunlight is blocked out disrupting the natural chain and resulting fish populations to drop:
@west path
Host a grand tourney for warriors of each of the four verti races, as they will be called.
The winner of each will be part of the council of High Champions, second only to the QUEEN
When your relics power starts applying to the surrounding area, thats when "Relic Awakening" has been achieved
💯💯
THE FAMINE?? YOU MEAN I HAVE FOOD NOW
Can i trade with them then
your ass is BROKE
albeit you have a bit of food left over that'll last you around 2 months
you need to set up your industries to bring back funds into the nation
this is like poland during the black death
you should use this to start balling
I will sell for cheap but
You become my slave ehehehehee
Aeheheheheheheh
The Rathi have routes set up with the Nr'madians, meaning that food trading would likely be easier there. ALBEIT THE INDUSTRIES THEY WANTED FROM YOU HAVE BEEN ANNIHILIATED BY THE SCORCHED EARTH POLICY
Then start setting up various industries to generate a profit for the nation. Rebuild as much as possible before food runs out
And no centralized leadership
Fixable by balling
I am a group of pilgrims led by a group of contractors 😭
@west path where am i rn
You do not have enough resources to spread yourself thin like thay
Kh'wal
show on map pls
how close am i to the sea
can i feel the breeze on my face
Focus on the metalworking and mining industry then so we can sell off our ores
in House Orion territory
on the coast
cray zee
which ore
yes
@wraith quarry is this true?
It has been annoying you for the last 40 years of meditating
Copper
@west path hey alpha. Can we start creating a brand new branch of shamanism dedicated to helping us fight?
It will be fueled through 'the Thrill' of fighting and 'the Thirst' for strength
@marsh lance I am giving you a blessing
as in
you get wheat
and highly fertile soils
@west path i will stop my meditating and rise to find my full senses 🙏
otay
@west path does this improve the economic situation
You can sense peoples souls now and have stupidly heightened regular senses and instincts
I'm giving you a blessing @elder arch
oh yeah you can also occassionally cast down a beam of light that does random shit (like spawn food or vaporize people)
you have my blessing venus
am i still at the spot where i staked out the land
That is exactly the ore the Nr'madians want
Then sell it to them
are there any nearby forests
And then buy food
Qeva can I shrink the corrupted area?
You manage to begin selling off large quantities of copper, which provide you the funds needed to begin importing food from Nr'madia
it is a permanent fallout but uhh
you can try
@west path who is purple guy near me
no
Yeah with my luck im not gettin anywhere
DOES ANYONE WANT MERCENARIES
that is
Corrupted area
the corruption that beleius spread
cooked
Can I kill it
guh
@west path i will take my stakes and begin my journey north in search of a new land (with forests, preferably) 🙏
Embrace the Thrill and Thirst
the north is uhm
open ocean
@noble cradle can I have your lightning magic help, I'm trying to kill this "corruption" that's on our borders
peculiar ellection map
northeast
You send out around 1.3k men to slay the corruption, yet only a measily 240 return. Most of them battered and bruised; and the corruption still standing strong.
@west path do this
yeah you find a fores there
I see i see, what did they observe
albeit
@west path try and make a small area of corruption, which will strengthen the effects of the corruption and stuff
all of the trees are DEAD
and its a really small forest
(you are in mediterranean climate)
I should search for almighty jehos
Its better not to fight it
Trust me
i must keep moving north a long the coast 😔
They are effectively braindead
completely traumatized by their experiences
Tis not the fucking verti spirit
Disappointments
You manage to find a NOT dead forest with a fuckton of warning signs all around it
@west path end them of their suffering and cremate them
what
this confuses me
what do they say
one pleads for their life
literally one
The are which the corruption corrupts, make it smaller to make it more powerful
Let them go— what is their name, race and gender?
Shrink corruption area to make corruption stronger @west path
A male Mistrillios, who does not wish to share their name, albeit can offer information on what he saw out there
uhh
Concentrate its power more yk
ok?
So you concentrate it to make it stronger?
Interesting
Interesting indeed
Yes
I learned from gojo satoru
What does he offer
'
He tells you that what is inside the corruption is an ever-changing mess, too confusing for anyone to navigate.
Can confirm...
Every part of the flora and fauna is hostile; and if you are given an open wound, you are guaranteed to die.
@brittle gust the terrain changes constantly in the corrupted area
The further you go the more confusing
He tells you to not send any men there, and abandon all efforts to try.
Is my Action success
yes
you did make the area smaller
and more potent
Hm so it works
as a matter of fact
Yes?
It uh
turned into a cloud
its now a mobile phenomenon
that terrorizes the cove and Verti areas
Ooh
arbitrarily
Insane
Can I send it somewhere
yes
@west path do I know where jehos is, i need the old man for one last job
Send it to the cove
Yeah
Get him out of retirement
@west path use the force to try and find jehos

I dont want to kill him
They were burning me alive
for what reason
👽
you literally left him alone
HE left me
yeah but you were fine with it
After I accidentally made a corruption area
Alien
Im lonely...
no can do bucko
Ok
@brittle gust Jehos offers to deal with the corruption clouds, albeit he warns that hes on his last legs.
Promise him a great state sponsered retirement
Jehosa witnesses
And if he wants— give him a retinue of my bravest
As you drag him out of the bar - him still being visibly drunk, You feel something pierce through your heart.
Mike 'Jehos' Tyson (58) challenges Cloud of Corrupted Death (27) to a fight
You look behind to see a demonic being, no longer Jehos, being held by you
😱
It seems to have been morphed into Jehos whilst the real Jehos had long passed away
IT WAS A SPY!!!
@west path make the corruption as small as a golf ball and fire it into the sky pls
Insane
real
ENEMY SPY IN THE BASE!!!
oh.
Guh
@prime compass It causes an open rupture; destroying the large 'darkclouds' and ending the year-long famine
😱
Beat that fucker(may i have lore that the the queen's aunt was married to jehos)
W beleius
no like
your warrior queen character is ☠️
"WHY DID YOU FUCKING IMPERSONATE MY UNCLE YOU IMP"
I was holding him
@west path go on a pirate raid and look for ALCOHOL
@west path make another ball and fire it north
@west path
The high champions shall DUEL to choose the new monarch
This is on the same level of a fumble as the Verti warrior queen trusting a man who should have fucking died years ago
no alcohol found 😔
You guys still see the really big fish
I drank
Lebron James reportedly razed his own nation to ashes
that ate one of your largest ships
yeah but they didnt find it
it is like
an exclusive verti commodity
Ök pls action
Rathi republic reference
That uh
Causes a massive corruption cloud to appear

no its BAD
...
Oh..
because the garland is now fucking fused to your ARM due to how much you've been using it
I DID NOTHINGG
@west path who wins the battle royale
a guy called Jihos Margolis
Like the sword with balies?
yeah you're playing as the demonic being now
yes
Uh oh
Baleis had different circumstances though
parader is dying of old age
idk man
If you can't beat them, become them
@west path how much have we rebuilt compared to our peak
@west path now that I'm a fucking demon, can I literally go an charge in the cloud
Are you declaring war on clouds
What did i miss
Yes
I'm massacring them, like the arreans
Booo clouds
like uhh
a solid 40%
me when i finish my mapa
Yeeeee, earth
No like uhm
you can't fly
That is.... Wow beautiful
Whens the next thunderstorm
I love the northern mountains
Good, continue that then
you can't live there btw
ok i lowk don't feel like hostaing rn
it is literally inhabitable
Can I use my vile demonic powers to talk with it and send it to uhhh banamia
I will not feed you guys until i actually feel like hostaing qeva mw
Dd- dwarves?
which may be in 2026
the only people up there that could realistically live are inuit-like tribes that live from anima carcass to animal carcass, it is like deathly frigid there
😔
ive completely changed the structure of the MW and as a result i need to change how i handle actions
Alr
Good luck with that mate
On another note
Do you want to join cosmic rpg
cosmic already tried to bribe me into joining and i declined
nao
Aw
i dont do rpgs
would you play peak nuovi
nao
die
nice
Bow are you in cosmic rpg
Now i must either quit hosting entirely or finish qeva mw and fall off into obscurity with miscallenous projects
nope
Wants to join?
not really
@frank latch do you fw this
dang
this goes hard
absolutely
what did you use for this?
Me when I still haven't finished my map:
wrong image
ignore that
Me when I still haven't finished my map:
Land and sea territories?
sea territories
Against the Walstun Invasion!
real
I refuse to elaborate on the Harai Bay (Linzian Bay)
also you should hop on mtc4
Bowistan if it was deformed
i actually agree
I agree
FUCK I THOUGHT YOUD SAY NO
NOO I WAS PLAYING MODDED RAVENFIELD
skill issue
most do
or if not you could always be infantry support/auxilarly crewman
Also does the game have mobile support or am i cooked? @west path
@west path Hosting < MTC4
you're cooked
Cooked
it has mobile support it's just that mobile users suck
and are useless
in every scenario
How
If it has mobile support that means you can play
one cannot reasonably operate this stuff with a phone
truth...
true
@wraith quarry the hardest part of mtc4 is fighting the loading screen ngl
real
am i wrong
@west path if hosting for 6 seconds every 6 years was an olympic sport
i need more medals
Pls hosta soona
Can you sum my situation up at the end of session
no i need my brain to regenerate
real
IM STILL FIGHTING IT
go hawk if u load
Hawk
@west path are you still fighting
yes but i lost the battle
i loaded in and most assets aren't loaded in
So i need to rejoin 😭
@wraith quarry Im sorry fish but i need to give up
i am not loading that in until midnight
ok
.fm
.fm
.fm
i have prepared the poltical map for when i want to host
BOO
craz
They ruined the chain
do an internal mw btw
i will be keeping the mountains 
chapter six
on this? no
yes
Internal mws died off
Yep
This art style is so familiar
how so
krita
this map is like 2x the size of eur rope
small
i am once again attempting the mtc4 loading screen boss
nvm roblox cant even load in ☠️
nevermind i ball i guess
@frank latch religion map when
20,360,000 kilometers would like to disagree with you
@rose cape how many kilometers would a single pixel have to be for this
how many pixels is it
dimensions
@marsh lance @rose cape hii
high
you are 3 million kilometers bigger than russia
i consider this a W
still smaller than africa
you are slightly bigger than south america
3 million kilometers bigger
which is surprising because south america is like russia sized
after biome map ong
when demographics map?
after religion map
~wyr
'FunCommands' object has no attribute 'last_refresh_time'
L
shiit uhhhh
when population density map
before Religion map
i lost the battle against the mtc4 loading screen final boss
bruh
Should have seen me ngl
I perfected the end battle scene in Fury
difference:
I was a 1 man show
1450 wide
700 tall i think
the entire time
there is more to the map than just this continent) 
Huh
Wdym
I dont have any that aren’t proprietary
game roomers if scrolling up was a disease:
Bowistan tomrow
each pixel is like 20 square km then
Hooly shittersing
only if you can find the latest update in 1 minutes
50 seconds left
WHAT
40 seconds
Sea territory
30 seconds
20 seconds
🤯
unfortunately Belemin didn't do it
Yeah thats what I meant
therefore he forfeits
he still has time
I said sea territory that counts come on
no it doesn't
not any more
no more bowistan for 1 more week 😔
1984..
Every day from hereon out, I will pray for the fall of Bow.May his era of tyranny and dominance over the Worldbox server come to an end. May he fall, hit with a ban so major he is forced to leave his cave and touch some grass. May he be forced to socialise with people in person. May he suffer
tbh
you have many sources at your disposal
bow forgot what he was asking for 😔
no I didn't?
Dementia..
I didn't though?
Maybe we should stop before bow deletes us from mw
@frank latch thoughts on this giant hole
Actually that would remove bryzkna
thoughts on all the holes Brzykna have yet to fill
Real
The Basis of bryzkna is corruption
!!!
And oppression
!!!
i probably will pause on expansion after i landlock texas
and filled another with an NPC
What time you hosta
@frank latch session?
buddy that was non annexed and it still is 🤫
this is the only correct version
Thoughts?
Faulty bryzkna
Nice
you have 1 minute to find out
How should I know..
bro when he remembers the Bowistan server:
or looking up a time in the search:
or scrolling up:
stop helping him
No
Around uhh
i want bowistan to be hosted though
8pm central european
Bowistan will be hosted
oh
4pm central european
this is to determine whether or not Belemin completes his journey without being killed
real...
Rate the map from 1 to 10 😃
This is no fair
8
(I'm trying to force my players to actually use their brains)
I use my brain
he didnt get it 😔
very sad
Ok send letter to Maizan emperor:
"I was attacked by Bryzkna ships! However the brave Walstun navy arrived and saved me. I beg you to help the Walstuns. They are oppressed and are suffering from the greedy Bryzkna."
bro literally got attacked by walstun ships
thas crazy
Your fault for starting this conflict
If you werent so greedy
None would have died
moving the goalpost is crazy
I don't think anyone does tbh
YOU killed 3 innocent Maizan civilians
I provide a ton of resources for people to actually look information up in
and nobody uses it
i killed 0 innocent maizan civilians
i dont even know about the existence
Shut up
of the maizani state
Ok?
tbf
I should organize it a little better and allow it to be more accessible
but absoutely nobody uses it
i do


