🎲game-room

[midnight ocean]

I’ll read the whole thing

[sullen pawn]

let me think

no

[frank latch]

no nation should ever own an entire continent

[sullen pawn]

👽

[visual plover]

Christianity wasnt a name or thing until Jesus came around and Jesus gave the new law "Do unto others, as you would have unto you"

Any "Christian" who did that afterwards, was not a true Christian

[midnight ocean]

Ok Israelites then still gods people

[visual plover]

Not Christians though

[spring bison]

the amazon dosent alternate

[midnight ocean]

So god changed his mind on stoning?

[visual plover]

Yes very clearly

Jesus

[frank latch]

Hey

I know him

[sullen pawn]

ngl chat

[visual plover]

Jesus Christ Son of God, came to teach and lead by example

[sullen pawn]

i think im just gonna make this a modern day map and host modern

[hollow bobcat]

The Christ

[midnight ocean]

Isn’t changing his mind literally against everything Christianity describes him as

[visual plover]

Acnaq, I mean this with respect but you just dont know the lore

[wraith quarry]

dont let people play as ukraine

[visual plover]

What?

[frank latch]

I would like to be the U.S.

[wraith quarry]

I played as Ukraine in a modern mw and its straight up boring

[sullen pawn]

im gonna make a forum

[frank latch]

(I'm going to war with Russia)

[sullen pawn]

i wont allow stupidity

[midnight ocean]

I assumed he was an unchanging force of justice

[marsh lance]

REAL

[frank latch]

Done with this cold war thing

[wraith quarry]

you can't do anything unless western allies do something more important to help u

like

give u long range missiles

or deploy NATO troops along the front

[visual plover]

Yes he is, God didnt just smite people down though before Jesus when they did wrong.

[spring bison]

lie

[frank latch]

It won't be stupid
I just won't be too coward to actually do something useful

[visual plover]

And God never told anyone to murder people

[spring bison]

unless the mw starts in like 2020

[visual plover]

You just havent read the Bible

[wraith quarry]

mine started in 2024

guh

well

[sullen pawn]

if the US declares war on russia and lands russia just gonna nuke everything

[wraith quarry]

not mine

but the one I joined

[sullen pawn]

should i map the ukraine war or naw

i thinmk the year is 2018

so actually

im not gonna

i will map russia owning crimea though

[frank latch]

or defend Ukraine and retake the captured territory

[spring bison]

#🎲game-room martians try not to alien the most random messages challenge

[visual plover]

Anyways, I gtg. Supper

[wraith quarry]

so it was literally just sitting waiting for NATO to help me
but at that point the west had already killed itself

[frank latch]

(or get the CIA to instigate a civil war)

[wraith quarry]

and the U.S

Froh

[sullen pawn]

ngl if russia nukes kyiev nato aint gonna do nuthin

[wraith quarry]

refused to help me because me personally

[visual plover]

I just suggest reading either the specific books of the Bible that talk about this, or just the Bible in general

[midnight ocean]

Even if the person being murdered sinned?

[frank latch]

and that's what I mean
I'm not going to be the guy who doesn't do anything

[spring bison]

they can just get a strat bomber to deliver the nuke instead

[visual plover]

God never said to murder or kill sinners

I gtg

My supper is gonna get cold

Just read the Bible someday

[wraith quarry]

idk man

[frank latch]

I would definitely nuke Putin's location

[wraith quarry]

the rest of the world has been very adamant that any nuclear strikes would be very strongly punished

[frank latch]

would it be possible to sway nations away from using Nukes
by saying their nation would be remembered for killing billions?

[midnight ocean]

Maybe not but even putins allies would probably condemn him for it. He would become a global outcast for resorting to nukes

[frank latch]

(probably not)

[wraith quarry]

whar

bro u make no sense

[frank latch]

😭

[wraith quarry]

please reword your sentence into the correct structure

[sullen pawn]

nah iran china andn orth korea would still stay cool

and belarus

[frank latch]

China wouldn't

I doubt it

[sullen pawn]

why not?

[frank latch]

North Korea I could see

[sullen pawn]

whos gon stop china

[frank latch]

the West

[sullen pawn]

china is currently unstoppable without the deaths of atleast 1 billion

[frank latch]

and yk
trying to maintain public opinion

[pine copper]

Oh so this is where the party is

[midnight ocean]

China isn’t that stupid and your forgetting about India which would definitely also not approve iran idk and Belarus is just a puppet

[sullen pawn]

india for sure would condemn

[wraith quarry]

because as much as china is already evil
it's a very good way for china to lose its economic markets, and foreign support from anybody to support the nation to use nukes in the modern day

[midnight ocean]

Yeah

[wraith quarry]

and they're also not that evil

[sullen pawn]

aint no one gonna stop trade with china??

if you trade with china, chinas ur #1 trade partner

[frank latch]

not to mention the CCP would likely lose a lot of its support for using nukes

[spring bison]

US sanctions on china would severely damage both economies

[frank latch]

"support"

[sullen pawn]

buddy no one supporst the CCP its just anyone who speaks out against it dissapear

[wraith quarry]

it wouldnt even be just the U.S

[spring bison]

the entire world

[midnight ocean]

Using nukes is just dumb

[wraith quarry]

it'd be neutral or even chinese-alligned countries going against china

[spring bison]

threatning a nation with nuclear strikes isint even taken serious anymore

[midnight ocean]

Also why would China use nukes

[spring bison]

Russia said that it would nuke any nation that attacks its land

[wraith quarry]

and they don't really even work as a detterent anymore

[spring bison]

yet Ukraine is advancing on kursk

[wraith quarry]

they're actually losing some positions rn

but they still hold on to most of their gains

[frank latch]

not to mention
Russia thinks Ukraine already possesses rightfully Russian territory

[spring bison]

this is predictable. but thats beside the point

[wraith quarry]

yeah sorry

[spring bison]

yeah

[wraith quarry]

i just am a 🤓

[spring bison]

China is only friendly to Russia because it can sell its weapons and goods to Russia

[wraith quarry]

yeah ngl I see china not really caring about russia all that much

[hollow garden]

Didn't it mostly stop

[wraith quarry]

yes

[hollow garden]

It's a shallow relationship 😔✊

[frank latch]

and it has an ally to depose the western led world
but it isn't much of one

[wraith quarry]

I really hope they are able to negotiate peace terms eventually
Ukraine is 100% gonna lose in the long term if they dont get more help

[hollow garden]

That's technically though

[wraith quarry]

or

[midnight ocean]

Duh

They aren’t even both communist anymore

[hollow garden]

But in reality they know the disputed status of this territory

[wraith quarry]

even at the end of the day, even if we do give Ukraine as many weapons and ammo as it could ever need

they will run out of troops eventually

[hollow garden]

I mean it will happen eventually

[midnight ocean]

Yeah

[wraith quarry]

its best chances of getting a decent deal would be using its current gains (assuming they're not lost) in Kursk as a bargaining chip for their lands back

[midnight ocean]

All the propaganda about Ukraine being on the verge of winning annoys me because it hurts them more than anything

[frank latch]

yeah

[sullen pawn]

#1293005988223254578 message

[hollow garden]

"The 2025 counteroffensive situation is insane!!"

[midnight ocean]

Stupid Americans are already forgetting about Ukraine people need to realize that it’s urgent and desperate measures need to be taken if we really want Russia to lose the war

[wraith quarry]

yeah Ukraine is probably gonna lose U.S support

after this election

if trump wins he says he will "secure peace"

tho

[frank latch]

I don't think Ukraine is going to win it
They may be able to sue for peace or negotiate
But they're not going to force Russia to stop.

[midnight ocean]

I’m pretty sure the Democratic platform supports Ukraine the republican platform not so much

[wraith quarry]

he has stated no actual plans for how that would happen

[wraith quarry]

yes

conservative side is a lot more isolationist rn

[midnight ocean]

That’s the main reason I vote democrat is because their foreign policy isn’t completely brain dead

[frank latch]

"I have concepts of a plan" (I don't remember what the line was)

[midnight ocean]

Exactly what he said lol

[frank latch]

ah

[hollow bobcat]

"Concept" but never a plan 🤫

[midnight ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-a-plan-a-plan-my-plan-no-plan-i-dont-have-a-plan-gif-16856233757576735905

[spring bison]

both Zelensky and Putin are unwikking to work on a compromise

[frank latch]

unwikking

[hollow bobcat]

I think he was saying he knew was a plan is

Unwikking

[wraith quarry]

ik

[wraith quarry]

which is why i dont see trump "securing peace"

[frank latch]

tbf
any kompromisse (this is what autocorrect recommended 👽 )

wth

[spring bison]

he could threaten Ukraine with cutting aid but that would be stupid on a diplomatic stance

[midnight ocean]

Trump is genuinely just a Putin glazer

He thinks he’s friends with Putin but he’s more so a tool

[frank latch]

Russia will try to demand the demilitarization and ban of Ukraine from joining NATO
(also probably remove Zelensky and appoint some Russian Pro dude as president)

[midnight ocean]

Yeah

[frank latch]

which is understandably something Ukraine won't agree to

and Ukraine just wants its territory back

[spring bison]

he dosent demand the demilitarization nor change of president

he wants the 4 territories and forbidding Ukraine from Nato

[frank latch]

I feel like they would push that though

[wraith quarry]

because any other situation that requires not sending U.S troops or literally just giving russia everything it wants

isn't possible

[frank latch]

especially if they force Ukraine to sue for peace

[spring bison]

pretty sure the new peace terms putin is demanding dosent include those points

[frank latch]

hmm

[spring bison]

in an unconditional surrender they would demand it

[wraith quarry]

ah yes
diplomacy
giving one side everything it wants

[spring bison]

but in a coditional surrender no way they are willing to end the war with those demands

[wraith quarry]

that would literally be an almost exact copy of the munich conference

"so the aggressor state wants your land"
"give it to them, problem solved"

[frank latch]

uhh
this sentence contains a banned word

[wraith quarry]

are you a snitch?

[frank latch]

specifically what is supposed to be "cutting"

[frank latch]

no no
just saying if he don't wanna get warned

or verballed

[wraith quarry]

then there's no problem

dont snitch 🥱

[wild mason]

https://tenor.com/view/discordian-discord-brick-hill-discordia-nba-youngboy-gif-25717262

[frank latch]

mk
but if someone who does snitch or a mod finds it it'll be his funeral

[wraith quarry]

real

[spring bison]

what

👽

[wraith quarry]

Ukraine situation is very bad

[hollow garden]

this shit is so satisfying to read

blud really thought he was real shit

[spring bison]

BRO ARE YOU INSANE??

[wraith quarry]

west understandably doesn't want to go to war with russia, but also doesn't want russia to win

[spring bison]

WHY DID YOU FAVOR TUSK

[wraith quarry]

and Ukraine is in the middle

[frank latch]

proxy wars are awesome

[spring bison]

I would straight up commit a ton of equipment to ukraine

[hollow garden]

nationalizing bergia steel is worse for me

[spring bison]

no its not

[hollow garden]

And I hate Marcos

[wraith quarry]

the issue is that it's not that simple

[hollow garden]

Fuck marcos

[spring bison]

stop being brainwashed by your ministers dawg

[frank latch]

as much as I could agree to that
voters would not like it

[spring bison]

bro what

tusk is literally a snake

[frank latch]

Idk if I could agree with it tbh

[spring bison]

marcel is peak

[wraith quarry]

yes equipment is good
but you need to train those troops
and you have to even have troops to ukraine

[hollow garden]

he is a corrupt ass mf

[wraith quarry]

no matter how much aid or equipment we send, it's not going to save Ukraine

[spring bison]

I would just not promise that in my election and still do it anyways after getting elected

[hollow garden]

At least tusk just does deals with rumburg

[wraith quarry]

peak president

[frank latch]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-a-politics-politics-scam-2003-telgi-the-telgi-story-gif-11464126859920475595

[spring bison]

what 👽

[hearty venture]

Just make a TikTok telling Putin to stop the war whilst dancing

[hollow garden]

Unlike Marcos who actively tried to bribe the president

[hollow garden]

REAL

[quick idol]

who tf is marcos

[spring bison]

TUSK LITERALLY TRIES TO BRIBE YOU 3 TIMES

HE EVEN OFFERS MONEY

[quick idol]

damn bro aint giving up

[spring bison]

Marcel just wants you to make promises

and deals

[quick idol]

@hollow garden @spring bison you both are corrupt

simply

[spring bison]

while tusk will just pull out a 1 million dollar check to you if you do this

[hollow garden]

Oh wait right

Dementia

[wraith quarry]

what are yall talking about

[wild mason]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-azerbaijan-flag-waifu-azərbaycan-flag-gif-5342364465920291880

[hollow garden]

Well fuck marcos anyway

[frank latch]

suzerain

[spring bison]

you are an tusk puppet

[hollow garden]

real

[spring bison]

puppet of the oligarchs

[hollow garden]

I mean true

But

[spring bison]

marcel wants a mutually benefitial partnership

[hollow garden]

Can't he be like less venomous about it

[spring bison]

while tusk wants you to give him more power

[spring bison]

what

[hollow garden]

I literally nationalized one of the big 4 👽

[spring bison]

you nationalized the wrong one

[wild mason]

Fish Nerd me all you want but that's what azeri look like. Why do you think the anime gets filmed there

[frank latch]

,roll 20 Invade Russia

[haughty inlet]

builderofworldz

:game_die: You rolled 17

[hollow garden]

Letting tusk win the power struggle is a side effect of that

[spring bison]

you either nationalize all of them or just bergia steel

no in betwen

[hollow garden]

But it wasn't the main goal

[frank latch]

,roll 20 White Death

[haughty inlet]

builderofworldz

:game_die: You rolled 5

[frank latch]

😔

[hollow garden]

Nah I'm focusing on the old guard I don't want them and the oligrachs to be enemies of mine

[spring bison]

bro

[hollow garden]

@frank latch do you play the acclaimed game suzerain

[frank latch]

nope

[spring bison]

allying with marcel literally pacifies all of the bad oligarchs

[frank latch]

my budget is:
$0 USD

[wraith quarry]

🤓

[hollow garden]

oh

[spring bison]

while allying with tusk just gives tusk more power

[frank latch]

(I just really wanted Phasmo and Minecraft)

[hollow garden]

good to know for next walkthroughs

[spring bison]

also tusk wants to form an-capistan

where he owns everything

[hollow garden]

LeBron SOP

Don't spoila

[frank latch]

I paid for worldbox once
but... that was a really unfortunate circumstance

[midnight ocean]

What about Ercan

[spring bison]

this is in the wiki

shut up

[hollow garden]

Was the shut up really necessary 😔

[spring bison]

tusk is the number one enemy of you in every playthrough

[frank latch]

yes

[hollow garden]

Maybe yours

But not mine

[spring bison]

👽

[hollow garden]

Tusk is my homie

[spring bison]

he is trying to undermine the administration

[midnight ocean]

Is this suzerain stuff

[frank latch]

yes

Where did this conversation start?

[pine copper]

How’d we go from politics to this?

[midnight ocean]

It’s fictional politics

[midnight ocean]

The Bible

[hollow garden]

yes

[wraith quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/babushka-chillin-gif-16586930909978538117

[frank latch]

this started with communism actually

[spring bison]

should I host arab sea mw

[spring bison]

no?

[hollow garden]

yes

[wraith quarry]

when will Europe get its stuff together and get its military industry up to standard

[frank latch]

Not actually

We were discussing economics first

[frank latch]

then went to religion?

[midnight ocean]

It’s all desert lame

[frank latch]

then Ukraine somehow

and we're on Suzerain

[spring bison]

not we

me and klez

[frank latch]

it's the main conversation

[spring bison]

lie

[frank latch]

proof?

[wraith quarry]

should I do a modern 2024 mw

[frosty drum]

Make 1936 mw

[spring bison]

choose your nations

[frank latch]

1936 is over done

[wraith quarry]

1926 mw

[midnight ocean]

What happens if you play Ukraine

[spring bison]

this is a regular mw with actions btw

[frosty drum]

YES

[frank latch]

put me in as France or the U.S. coach

[spring bison]

wtfym

[wraith quarry]

you don't do anything unless other people do stuff to break the deadlock

[spring bison]

we never had a actual 1936 mw since like 2023

[wraith quarry]

nah

lebron gets U.S easy

[frank latch]

😭

[frosty drum]

Make 1936 Mw

Frfr

[spring bison]

I woudnt get the US but if I must I will

[frank latch]

well
at least with France I get the warning shot doctrine

[wraith quarry]

google maps finally updated ☠️

holy cow

[frank latch]

[spring bison]

1936 just makes Germany extremely debuffed

because the french player will most likely be sentient and not do appeasement

[frank latch]

oh wait
they didn't change the borders to disputed yet?

[frosty drum]

But it adds more time for other nations

[frank latch]

or go the opposite direction and just invade Germany

[spring bison]

this is brainrot

[wraith quarry]

germany already gets debuffed

[frank latch]

but fun

[wraith quarry]

for starting ww2

[spring bison]

what?

[frosty drum]

I mean
You could make a rule stating Appeasment has to happen if it happens

[wraith quarry]

Germany couldn't have won ww2

let's be real

[spring bison]

lie

[frank latch]

railroading

[frosty drum]

Also don't let's nekcrop be Germany

[hollow bobcat]

68kg of a trained pilot is equal to 68kg of golds 🤫

Realist

[frank latch]

gold(s)

[wraith quarry]

unless it magically got the UK to surrender or sue for white peace

it would lose

actually

they'd still lose to the soviets

so nvm

[spring bison]

this could have happened had the miracle of dunkirk not happened

[frank latch]

or Japan didn't get the U.S. invovled and the U.S. stayed completely isolationist

(both are necessary)

[spring bison]

also had the air war in britain not happened the germans would have an way more powerfull airforce

[wraith quarry]

I disagree

[spring bison]

and competent also

[frank latch]

alternatehistory

[spring bison]

you clearly do not understand how pows affect morale

[wraith quarry]

the U.K sentiment at home was to defend the home islands at all cost

[frosty drum]

I have a near complete Map of 1936 hoi4 on mapchart

[wraith quarry]

I do, but I don't think it'd be enough to knock it out of the war

[frosty drum]

All I need to do is add islands colors

[spring bison]

also the afrika corps would have to been more funded

[frank latch]

afrika

[spring bison]

Churchill's mistakes were the reason italy didnt completely botch Libya

[wraith quarry]

it would absolutely destroy all morale in the british homeland
but operation sea lion would've never been able to occur nonetheless

I also think the soviets would've won any allout war with the germans

[spring bison]

the leader of germany could have also been more sentient and like... not randomlly intervene in military matters

[hollow garden]

Why was Italy so incompetent 😭

[frosty drum]

Ethiopia

[wraith quarry]

🤷‍♂️

[spring bison]

sea lion is a wet dream

[wraith quarry]

at the end of the day Germany couldn't support operation barborossa

[sullen pawn]

@balmy epoch @lucid oriole @covert citrus #1293005988223254578 message

[covert citrus]

SHUT UP

[wraith quarry]

there logistics were absolutely awful

[frank latch]

at least with the U.S. invovled

[wraith quarry]

nah

[spring bison]

yes it could if they hadnt made mistake after mistake

[wraith quarry]

german logistics would've never been able to win germany the war

[pine copper]

Lmao

[wraith quarry]

logistics wins wars

germany

[balmy epoch]

no

[wraith quarry]

just couldnt support it

[spring bison]

yes it can

it can support fast warfare

[pine copper]

No

[spring bison]

had they not done the same mistakes they did they could have managed to defeat the soviets

[wraith quarry]

which didn't really work in russia

[balmy epoch]

I’m Russian btw this shit offends me heavily can you delete it

[wraith quarry]

no

[spring bison]

because of the mistakes they did

[frank latch]

real

[balmy epoch]

Germany could have never won

[wraith quarry]

my dude, the german armored divisions were literally miles ahead of their supply lines and they were only able to successfully do stuff in encirclements

[frank latch]

weird question

[wraith quarry]

because the supply lines could catch up from behind during those

[frank latch]

Could Germany win a war against France in modern times? (excluding nukes)

[sullen pawn]

!!

[wraith quarry]

i'd argue even if the 6th panzer army or whatever went to stalingrad
they would've still lost

[sullen pawn]

#1293005988223254578 message

[frank latch]

hypothetically

[sullen pawn]

plz play guys

[wraith quarry]

no

not a chance

[spring bison]

logistics is a major thing but it isint the military miracle you think it is

[wraith quarry]

logistics is what won us ww2

[spring bison]

in the pacific yes

[wraith quarry]

it wasn't wonder weapons, it was good logistics doctrines

[wraith quarry]

in europe

my dude

[spring bison]

no

[wraith quarry]

what do you think the 8th airforce did all day

👽

[pine copper]

Okay but against just the Soviet Union

[wraith quarry]

what do you think an entirely motorized military did

[spring bison]

this is impossible for the industry of the era

[wraith quarry]

my dude

the U.S army was completely motorized

[spring bison]

👽

[wraith quarry]

i will stand by saying that logistics won us ww2

[midnight ocean]

Hearts of iron brain

[wraith quarry]

Allied doctrine was the most logistics friendly possible

[wraith quarry]

tho is still wasn't awesome

[spring bison]

logistics are a key factor in the game 👽

[wraith quarry]

and logistics is probably why the soviets won as well

[sullen pawn]

taken vs open

[wraith quarry]

they could afford to send massive human waves at the Germans

[sullen pawn]

@midnight ocean @wraith quarry when will u two select a nation btw

[wraith quarry]

because they could replace their losses

[frank latch]

@sullen pawn Bosnia

[wraith quarry]

a tiger might be able to kill 8 T-34s but luckily there's 50 of them

[balmy epoch]

wanna jihad

[wild mason]

It's almost like the US focused on weaker but more prodúcable and repairable designs

[wraith quarry]

Croatia

[frank latch]

idk what that means

[frank latch]

😭

[balmy epoch]

terrorism

and war

[frank latch]

I see

[balmy epoch]

In the name of Allah

[wraith quarry]

exactly

and we bombed german industry into smithereans

[pine copper]

@balmy epoch would you jihad for the ottomans in ww1?

[frank latch]

why does the u have an accent?

[balmy epoch]

no

[sullen pawn]

are you two fr

im down to let u guys play croatia and bosnia lmfao

[wild mason]

Who TF is Spain

[balmy epoch]

I would participate in Gallipoli and make it succeed

[sullen pawn]

fucker

[frank latch]

Hey
I'm good with it

if I have to landmine the entire country three times over

[wraith quarry]

and logistics will also ultimately be why Ukraine will lose the Russo-Ukraine war if nothing else changes

[frank latch]

then so be it

[spring bison]

👽

[pine copper]

I call cap 🧢

[frank latch]

which I think
the best way to support Ukraine is to support Ukrainian businesses and its economy.

[spring bison]

is honey bee churchill

[sullen pawn]

bosnia taken before USA

unreal

[wraith quarry]

they need manpower over anything

[frank latch]

true

[balmy epoch]

send Israel to fight

[spring bison]

what matters economy and bussiness when you lack equipment and manpower

[frosty drum]

I avoid Overly Complicated Nations (superpowers)

[wraith quarry]

that's the part of logistics that will kill Ukraine in the end

[balmy epoch]

considering they like war so much

[sullen pawn]

same

[spring bison]

also this thing called "bombing" exists

[wraith quarry]

logistics

[spring bison]

ok you are going on a full schizo take rn

[frank latch]

air defenses

[wraith quarry]

it literally is tho

[spring bison]

it isint a miracle

[frank latch]

true

[spring bison]

it dosent automatically making bombing impossible

[wild mason]

I can fix him ...

[frank latch]

but it helps Ukraine

[balmy epoch]

I’ll fix Iran

the entire economy is going to missiles

[frank latch]

"fix"

[spring bison]

👽

[balmy epoch]

also I won’t let Hezbollah die

[wraith quarry]

how do you support a frontline war of attrition
you need manpower, you need to train said manpower, pay said manpower, equip said manpower, transport said manpower, and sustain them with supplies in the front

which is all logistics

[wild mason]

stalling offensives

[spring bison]

manpower and training is not logistics?

[balmy epoch]

Ukraine’s logistics are fucked and they know it

[wraith quarry]

yes it is

[spring bison]

👽

[frank latch]

why did I pick Bosnia

Bosnia is literally a doomed nation

[wraith quarry]

logistics doesn't just mean guns, ammo and food

[wild mason]

You can always change

[spring bison]

equpping and transporting troops are logistics

[frank latch]

why would I do that?

[spring bison]

but the rest are not logistics

[wild mason]

what are yall playin

[wraith quarry]

getting troops is also logistics

[spring bison]

👽

[wraith quarry]

without manpower you can't sustain a war

[wild mason]

Not playing. Just they are talking and garlic is looking for players

o

[spring bison]

I never heard someone call conscription, drafting or volunteering logistics

[balmy epoch]

logistics, in military science, all the activities of armed-force units in roles supporting combat units, including transport, supply, signal communication, medical aid, and the like.

[wraith quarry]

I do because it all needs to be considered in order to support front line efforts

[spring bison]

is the airforce logistics

[wraith quarry]

your troops could be the most well-equipped and well trained troops on the planet
but a force of 50 dudes will always lose to a force of 10,000 dudes

[wraith quarry]

depends

[spring bison]

no no no

[wraith quarry]

transport? yes

[frank latch]

How do fix Bosnia?

[spring bison]

"I do because it all needs to be considered in order to support front line efforts"

[wraith quarry]

but airforce, and it performing frontline combat (like dogfighting or strategic bombing) is not logistics

[spring bison]

you domt

[wraith quarry]

because it's actual combat units

logistics supports combat units

[frosty drum]

Use the Coastline

It's a few miles

[spring bison]

you dont need to fix bosnia

because it already is utopia

all you need to do is annex Croatia

anyways choose your nations frfr

[frank latch]

I can't

it's not a deep water port

it's unusable

[spring bison]

annexing Croatia:

[frank latch]

I can't do that without fixing Bosnia

[marsh lance]

Can i be afghanistan

[frank latch]

Croatia would steamroll me

[spring bison]

sure?

[spring bison]

@frank latch @frosty drum

[marsh lance]

Why are you so unsure LeBron, don’t you know Afghanistan is the greatest and strongest country on the planet

[spring bison]

@wild mason

[frosty drum]

Egypt

[frank latch]

Djbouti

[lucid oriole]

@wild mason i’m playing russia

wanna.. ally

[balmy epoch]

I trust ChatGPT cuz it supports my opinions

[spring bison]

ok I can see you wont play

[frank latch]

bruh

[spring bison]

what are you doing as Djibouti except get invaded by Ethiopia

[frank latch]

it's called negotiations

[frosty drum]

@frank latch

[frank latch]

(I'll figure stuff out)

or I'll get invaded

[spring bison]

you will still get invaded by Ethipia

[frank latch]

bro
I saw it

[frank latch]

womp womp

[frosty drum]

Ok

[frank latch]

I get invaded
but I still want to try

[balmy epoch]

no he won’t 😭

wait it’s your’s

[spring bison]

the blue faction is the Abbysinian Confederation

[frosty drum]

Easy Fight
Bow will win

[spring bison]

the blue is the Somali Alliance

[frank latch]

It's over

[lucid oriole]

invade the saudid alhamduillah

[frank latch]

time to invade Yeme

n

[spring bison]

the yellow is the Levantine Alliance

[wraith quarry]

btw does Russia control Zaporizhzia?

[spring bison]

@marsh lance you are a puppet of Indus (Mughals)

[frank latch]

only the southern portion
right?

[marsh lance]

Absolutely insane

[balmy epoch]

soon

[frank latch]

ah bro
nvm

they basically own 90% of it

[marsh lance]

@spring bison begin a military investment plan to increase the effectiveness of our fighting forces

[wraith quarry]

so it doesnt?

W

[marsh lance]

🤫

[balmy epoch]

in 7 months

[spring bison]

elaborate

[marsh lance]

Shat what is Zaprizza

[wraith quarry]

a city in Ukraine

[marsh lance]

Put money into better equipment and training facilities

[spring bison]

some funds and equipment go missing btw

[marsh lance]

THE OLD GUARD IS REAL

[frank latch]

this is sort of what it looks like (I don't know the exact frontline so I just drew one)

[marsh lance]

@spring bison launch an investigation by putting trackers / shadowing our equipment shipments to see where they are going to, and if they deviate to another route

[balmy epoch]

you can literally see the frontline from space

[wraith quarry]

i can't on google maps

[frank latch]

proof

nvm
I found it

👽

[spring bison]

The investigation is faced with delays and delays and false information

[wraith quarry]

is it this

[frosty drum]

Imagine Google Street view 💀

[frank latch]

you can find trench lines all throughout the region

[spring bison]

trenches

[balmy epoch]

the area around the frontline is a different color

[wraith quarry]

the issue is that google maps is very not updated

[spring bison]

insane how modern warfare is literally a regression from ww2

from mobile combine arms warfare back to trench warfare again

[frank latch]

tanks have become obsolete (not really though)

[wraith quarry]

yep

[spring bison]

this is false

[wraith quarry]

Pre Russia blowing up dam

[spring bison]

why do I still try to host oh my god

[lucid oriole]

who would join if i hosted rn

[wraith quarry]

post blowing up dam

[lucid oriole]

Wow

[wraith quarry]

there's a lot more trees

[balmy epoch]

that’s not trees

[wraith quarry]

then what is the green

it aint craters

it aint aliens

[balmy epoch]

mostly overgrowth because no one is there

in the frontline

[wraith quarry]

so

trees

[balmy epoch]

also trenches and artillery craters

they’re there too

[balmy epoch]

grass

[wraith quarry]

i can't find any sadly

[balmy epoch]

weeds

[wraith quarry]

also trees

it's trees, bushes, grass

[lucid oriole]

@balmy epoch dms rq

[balmy epoch]

Russia has fired over 14m shells

[spring bison]

weak

[spring bison]

Crazy how African is playerless

[frosty drum]

I'm the only one in the Americas

Lol

[sullen pawn]

cuz every african nation u gotta fix ur economy and corruption n shit

alot of ppl just wanna go straight 2 war

its a map WAR not a map FIXTHENATIONYOUSTARTAS

[lucid oriole]

i don’t btw

[sullen pawn]

same guy who chose russia btw

[marsh lance]

Afghanistan is a failed state

[frosty drum]

I'm the most isolated one (in Location of Players)

[wraith quarry]

just gotta wait for google maps to update the low level sattelite images

[sullen pawn]

if no 1 chooses the US ill let you have it if u want btw

[balmy epoch]

look near Siversk

[frosty drum]

Fun fact: Everyone is in the Northern Hemisphere

[sullen pawn]

oh my god

@balmy epoch CREATURE

[frosty drum]

Imagine.....
America ruled by Skillerz....

[sullen pawn]

@balmy epoch are you sure you want to be america this is the LAST switch u get

[spring bison]

are you spain

[balmy epoch]

yes

[marsh lance]

I hire a SECRET agent to specifically carry out investigations and analysis on the missing equipment @spring bison

[frosty drum]

No

[marsh lance]

Can i become vp

[balmy epoch]

I was expecting Russia to not want to encroach on me

[lucid oriole]

i wanted

[spring bison]

ok im just hosting with one player

[lucid oriole]

Baku oil

¿

[frosty drum]

Become USA frfr

[spring bison]

nothing for me to do

[sullen pawn]

did pug say he wanted to attack iran

[lucid oriole]

Nope

[balmy epoch]

and I don’t want any Shia under foreign occupation

[lucid oriole]

Azerbaijan

[marsh lance]

It ok lerona

[lucid oriole]

They wouldn’t be under foreign occupation 🤫

[wraith quarry]

I did confirm that these are trenches

[sullen pawn]

btw this map has pacific islands but the one ill host on does not

FUCK the pacific islands

can not WAIT until they all sink

[wraith quarry]

@sullen pawn change me to france

[frosty drum]

I'm still the only one in the southern hemisphere lol

[wraith quarry]

i have something to settle

[frank latch]

what are you doing

[sullen pawn]

buddy i will destroy you

[wraith quarry]

shh

[wild mason]

No Africa?

[frank latch]

actually
I konw

[sullen pawn]

not yet

[frank latch]

know

[lucid oriole]

Senegal is still not represented btw

[frosty drum]

Africa is a mess

[sullen pawn]

@frank latch do u wanna switch now

[frank latch]

nah

Bosnia seems fun

[wild mason]

But Gambia is 👽

[frank latch]

I chose Bosnia because I couldn't remember the name for Kosovo at the moment

[frosty drum]

@sullen pawn is Liechtenstein Presented on the map btw
It is the most important Country

[sullen pawn]

for soem reason i correlate the UK france and spain as like a trio

[spring bison]

im playing suzerain btw

[sullen pawn]

nope it got annexed by austria in this world

[frank latch]

tbf there were the world great powers in the 1500's

[frosty drum]

How Unfortunate

[lucid oriole]

are we gonna ally

[spring bison]

who is france and spain

[frank latch]

but the UK didn't exist then yet

[wild mason]

Take Kyiv in 3 days and then we talk

[wild mason]

Lavenderparfum would probably play

[lucid oriole]

i’m not going to invade Ukraine 🤫

[marsh lance]

Guh

[sullen pawn]

play my modern mw

plz

[frank latch]

alr

gotta go

cya

wrong chat

[marsh lance]

Ok so how politically realistic does this have to be

[sullen pawn]

you cant go facist as madagascar

i want it to be semi realistic

[wraith quarry]

im invading russia

[marsh lance]

Can i be uh……. Luxembourg

[frank latch]

@wraith quarry Bosnia declares war on France

[sullen pawn]

nnnNOPE

[wild mason]

France did promise men on the ground 🤔

[marsh lance]

EVIL

uh

Can i beeee

[frank latch]

,roll 20 nuke France

[haughty inlet]

builderofworldz

:game_die: You rolled 6

[sullen pawn]

NOPE

[frank latch]

bruh

[wraith quarry]

only if russia makes a breakthrough or if they use nukes or something

[marsh lance]

Venezuela

[sullen pawn]

NO

[frosty drum]

NO.

[marsh lance]

WHY ARE YOU EVIL

EVIL GARLIC

[hollow garden]

NO

[sullen pawn]

im not le tting you choose a dumpster fire nation

[spring bison]

I physically cant host

[hollow garden]

@frosty drum god finger

J just noticed

[marsh lance]

what if i made it better

I can fix her

[frosty drum]

Yes

[sullen pawn]

noope

[frosty drum]

No
Become India

[marsh lance]

Holy shit vroa..

[frank latch]

@frosty drum didn't you JUST become crab?

[wild mason]

Who will you be
Egypt?

[frank latch]

no wait

[marsh lance]

Can i be columbia @sullen pawn

[sullen pawn]

@hollow garden play mw

[wild mason]

Hes going Belemin

[spring bison]

garlic stop locking the nations

[sullen pawn]

no south or central american nations

[marsh lance]

HI HI KLEZ

[wild mason]

Thats dumb

[marsh lance]

Bro

[frosty drum]

Except I'm not getting banned

[frank latch]

God finger isn't after crab 👽

[sullen pawn]

this bozo is gonna quit mw if they play a shitter nation

ok fine

you can be fucking colombia

smhmh

u better not quit the mw

first sesion cuz u relize colombia is lame

[marsh lance]

ONGGGG

[frank latch]

why did you let me choose Bosnia then?

[sullen pawn]

fish chose croatia

[frosty drum]

Because there's still minefields

[sullen pawn]

i thought u two were gonna do some yugoslavia thing

[marsh lance]

I will realize gran colombia

[frank latch]

nah
we were 100% about to go to war with each other just because we're brothers

[marsh lance]

Thats what i will realize

Realize as in make it real

[wraith quarry]

can confirm

[frank latch]

but then Fish remembered about the warning shot doctrine in France

[marsh lance]

Is it true

[frosty drum]

I'm Brazil Pat

[wild mason]

Garlic what year is it

[frosty drum]

2018

[sullen pawn]

5972

[marsh lance]

This is just like the Dorak peninsula 🥰 but irl

[wild mason]

OK be serious

[frosty drum]

Ok

[sullen pawn]

2018

[wild mason]

Because if it is later than 2027 Bougainville Island should be independent

[wild mason]

OK

[marsh lance]

“Ok”

[sullen pawn]

ur saying this as if the papua govenrment is gonna give them independance lmfao

[balmy epoch]

they already agreed to it lmao

[sullen pawn]

and russia agreed to not invade ukraine if they gave up their nuclear weapons

[balmy epoch]

you’re dumb

[sullen pawn]

nope

[balmy epoch]

learn about Bougainville

[marsh lance]

Right.. make ukraine give up nuclear weapons for “safety” or some shit, but russia keeps their nukes 🤯

[vagrant ginkgo]

ok if we’re being real does the independence of bougainville have a major sociopolitical impact on the world

[marsh lance]

Now heres the thing

[spring bison]

why should this random ass island gain independence

we should focus on uniting humanity not dividing it more

[marsh lance]

Nuclear deterrence and MAD are the only thing stopping total nuclear war btw

[vagrant ginkgo]

through war and genocide

[wild mason]

Yes because it gives me as China somewhere to fuck with

[vagrant ginkgo]

purge all who disagree with me

[lucid oriole]

@sullen pawn who is pope playing

[marsh lance]

True

[frank latch]

obviously

[spring bison]

purge all who disagree with me*

[frosty drum]

Politicians keeping 1% of their brainpower is what's keeping us alive

[vagrant ginkgo]

nobody ❗

i’m spectating

[sullen pawn]

no one

[frosty drum]

They only use 1%

[marsh lance]

No, most politicians only protect their nation and the world because global trade and taxation on the people bring them money 🤯

[sullen pawn]

divided but equal

[vagrant ginkgo]

it’s all about power and cash

[vagrant ginkgo]

this was the tagline for segregation btw

[spring bison]

bro

[sullen pawn]

no it was not 💀

r u fr

[vagrant ginkgo]

“separate but equal”

you learn ts in like 4th grade

[spring bison]

yes it is

[vagrant ginkgo]

“uhm separate and divided are not the same word” 🤓🤓🤓

they are SYNONYMS

[sullen pawn]

i forgor

[vagrant ginkgo]

blocked

[sullen pawn]

idrk who jim crow is but i DO NOT support his laws

[midnight ocean]

Southern/midwest education

[marsh lance]

Real

Who is jim and why does his crow hate black people

[spring bison]

alien message

[vagrant ginkgo]

gameroomers instinctually starring any message that has the word “racist” in it

if this message gets close to 10 stars im deleting it

[midnight ocean]

They star stuff they sympathize with

[spring bison]

this is deserving of an alien react

[lucid oriole]

@midnight ocean be iran..

[spring bison]

you got that right

[midnight ocean]

Mfs can say this but we can’t mention anything about ww2 leaders

[midnight ocean]

Where

[pine copper]

You can relate

[balmy epoch]

@midnight ocean I’m America btw

[lucid oriole]

garlic mapwar

[midnight ocean]

Projecting

[lucid oriole]

Yeah and I’m Russia

[midnight ocean]

I’ve got homework

[marsh lance]

Is it bannable to talk about how jim crow was racist

[lucid oriole]

this honey bee guy is going to spend his entire game fucking with me oh my Lord

[midnight ocean]

First of all do you know who/what Jim Crow is

[spring bison]

we can talk about mao

[sullen pawn]

garlic hosted in game room before gta6

[marsh lance]

A system lf laws

[midnight ocean]

You can’t actually

[spring bison]

pretty sure fidel castro too

[balmy epoch]

no im fucking with Iran first

[marsh lance]

BANNED

[midnight ocean]

Do you know what the name came from

[spring bison]

you cant idolize him

but you can talk about him

[wild mason]

Its not happening rn

[pine copper]

I AM NOT RACIST

[marsh lance]

Unfortunately no

[midnight ocean]

For now but I bet if you bring it up to an admin you wouldn’t anymore

[lucid oriole]

blumi holls are you continuing the tamriel map

[vagrant ginkgo]

what reason do you have to talk about ww2 leaders in the worldbox discord server be so fr

[midnight ocean]

Oh then maybe

[lucid oriole]

fakher is offline so i have motivation

[sullen pawn]

during a ww2 mw 👽

[midnight ocean]

Do you not literally play hoi4

[frosty drum]

I just remembered this was the wb server frfr

[vagrant ginkgo]

do you take actions abt the holocaust during ww2 mws?

its the same way with the leaders

[frosty drum]

Look in pins

[lucid oriole]

Topics like WW2 and colonialism come up in this server and it’d be disingenuous to talk about, for example, the military genius of the German high command (which is a myth btw) without also talking about the holocaust and the evils of the men responsible

[wild mason]

Yes but im not running it rn
My head hurts too much to watch a map

[vagrant ginkgo]

what debate is there to be about ww2 leaders

[midnight ocean]

hey guys idk if i gotta tell you this but please do not remake the holocaust in map wars or any tradedgy / mass systematic murder that is not fine

[vagrant ginkgo]

“who’s worse?”

[lucid oriole]

Talking about them isn’t bad..?

Wdym

Talking about their impact isn’t bad

[vagrant ginkgo]

what point is there to talking about them

[wraith quarry]

ngl the entire german military during ww2 is overrated

[sullen pawn]

ive never hosted a ww2 mw in game room but if i did i'd force the germany player to not do holocaust, or i'd just ignore it

[lucid oriole]

Have U never heard of an actual conversation

Does your mind immediately go to tribalism and arguing

Little ape boy

[sullen pawn]

i hosted a ww2 mw in the aw server and the holocaust came up a few times

[midnight ocean]

If your talking about literally any event during ww2 or the Cold War they’re gonna be relevant

[vagrant ginkgo]

yeah exactly. i used to take that same approach when it came to mentioning the leaders

[spring bison]

just dont allow them to go schizo

[marsh lance]

“Top ten strongest conquerors in history”
Strength
Speed
IQ
Battle IQ
Agility
🥶🥶🥶

[spring bison]

and have a normal mw

[vagrant ginkgo]

you can gave those same discussions without bringing up arbiters of genocide

[lucid oriole]

shoutout to when charles picked germany and immediately starting micromanaging the Party and SS internal politics

[spring bison]

this is deserving of an alien react

[vagrant ginkgo]

this is literal game room mentality

[marsh lance]

THEN WHY DONT YOU!!!

[frosty drum]

"I will Conquer The Urals As Brazil"

[sullen pawn]

who the shit is charles 😭

[spring bison]

actually nevermind

forget it

[pine copper]

The brainrot is strong with you, I can sense it 🫰

[sullen pawn]

didnt you warn hb for glorifying sadam

[vagrant ginkgo]

yeah

[spring bison]

he didnt actually btw

[spring bison]

true

tbh

[lucid oriole]

Tamerlane
Strength - 9
Speed - 10
IQ - 10
BIQ - 10
Agility - 2 (he was crippled)

[marsh lance]

REAL

[vagrant ginkgo]

not your business btw

[wraith quarry]

i agree with you doing that
but it kinda hurts the logic of the map war imo because the conflict was ultimately fueled by their hatred and want to expand their race

it wasn't the whole driving force at all
but it still played a role

[vagrant ginkgo]

thats between me honey bee and eye

[sullen pawn]

TIL jewlius seeczar had epilespy

[vagrant ginkgo]

stay out of it

[wraith quarry]

but I completely understand not including it for obvious reasons

[spring bison]

👽

random

[lucid oriole]

God forbid the masses talk about corruption

Caesar is allowed to be talked about btw

God I love Caesar

[vagrant ginkgo]

ur not even on the staff team so i dont know how youre getting the full context of the situation 🤔

[marsh lance]

Idk what none of yall say oiljohn COOKED in #🛠server-suggestions

[sullen pawn]

eye leaks the staff chat in his personal discord

[wraith quarry]

we could always ask eye if you want

[vagrant ginkgo]

ok but i think the gaulic genocide hits a little less close to home than the holocaust and holodomor

[spring bison]

genghis khan

[spring bison]

I saw the messages

I know the situation

alien

[vagrant ginkgo]

from mod mansion? no you didnt

[midnight ocean]

Yeah @vagrant ginkgo what about genghis khan he for sure did genocides

[vagrant ginkgo]

those werent ever leaked

[spring bison]

that dosent matter

[vagrant ginkgo]

#🎲game-room message

[lucid oriole]

He didn’t actually genocide gauls btw, most accounts of it were either his enemies overblowing it to say how barbaric he was or him overblowing it to look like he was civilizing barbarians

[vagrant ginkgo]

it does tho

[frosty drum]

Alexander
Strength 7
Speed 8
IQ 10 (Teach is a famous philosopher)
Battle IQ 10 (Father also conquered Greece)
Agility 9

[spring bison]

except it dosent

[wild mason]

become mod again to mute this guy when he does this

[spring bison]

he didnt say anything bad

[vagrant ginkgo]

ragebait

[frosty drum]

@marsh lance

[midnight ocean]

So basically just it was a long time ago

[vagrant ginkgo]

blumi or acnaq can literally back me up here

[midnight ocean]

What’s this about

[lucid oriole]

He absolutely did enslave them though 🤫

Which

Atp

Ban every single ancient king

[wraith quarry]

according to this, replicating any mass murder from rl is not fine

[vagrant ginkgo]

lebron is saying that he understands the full picture of when i warned hb for glorifying someone despite the fact that he never saw any messages abt it in mod chats

[vagrant ginkgo]

yeah basically

[midnight ocean]

What is bro on about

[vagrant ginkgo]

ur not gonna see chinese people sobbing about the mongolian genocide, but ukrainians still feel the impacts of the holodomor

[spring bison]

he didnt say anything bad?

[vagrant ginkgo]

again this isnt ur business

honey bee is smart enough to defend himself

he doesnt need you white knighting for him

[lucid oriole]

@wild mason Ik U don’t really like hosting real life stuff but I would do literally anything for either a Medieval map at the height of Angevin English power or a map just before Timur’s conquests, maybe even a bulgar migration map if you’re into that 🤔

[sullen pawn]

FDR
Strength 4
Speed depends who is pushing him
IQ 8
Battle IQ 7
Agility 1

[midnight ocean]

It’s a complex situation

[vagrant ginkgo]

literally

[spring bison]

this is a weak point

"None of your bussiness"

that is so weak

[frosty drum]

Alexander
Strength 7
Speed 8
IQ 10 (Teach is a famous philosopher)
Battle IQ 10 (Father also conquered Greece)
Agility 9

[midnight ocean]

Why are we even talking about that

[vagrant ginkgo]

i’m not gonna put honey bee on blast about something he did because ur tryna be his defender

[lucid oriole]

Btw we’re allowed to talk about Timur Gurkani (my beloved) despite the fact that he slaughtered possibly hundreds of thousands and destroyed entire cities and everywhere outside of Uzbekistan he’s treated on the same level as some of the most evil people in world history

[wild mason]

Beg pope for that not me, if I do anything real world it'll be alt history ( Probably the one idea I talked about )

[spring bison]

I dont know what you're trying to say here

[sullen pawn]

cuz he was a long time ago

[vagrant ginkgo]

theres no reason you need to be concerned with his business or the staff team stuff

[midnight ocean]

If Americans don’t know about it it didn’t happen

[vagrant ginkgo]

the situation happened like 6 months ago lmao

[lucid oriole]

The.. late 14th century..?

[marsh lance]

200 years from now they will say that about… fucking funny mustache man

[sullen pawn]

yep

[lucid oriole]

his evilness is overstated 🤫

he was fairly typical

[marsh lance]

It feels like a travesty to say this name

[sullen pawn]

nope because internet

[lucid oriole]

What was atypical was the amount of conquest but for a conquerer his actions were pretty normal

[midnight ocean]

Killing hundreds of thousands of people sounds pretty bad

[spring bison]

👽

[marsh lance]

Peak gameroom morals

[wild mason]

@sullen pawn Btw can I have a copy of your map without countries filled in 🙏
I have an idea I need a big map for

[sullen pawn]

there are recordings of holocaust survivors on internet, which basically immortalizes all tradgedies from 1945 onward

[lucid oriole]

#🎲game-room message that’s a very high estimate btw

[marsh lance]

We have entered a golden age of higher thought

[sullen pawn]

do u want the 16k x 9k one or the 30k by 18k one

[spring bison]

why dont we ban this channel