⌨coders-cave

[main brook]

they don't just compile to native machine code

then they'll break the

"code once, run everywhere"

to be precise "build once"

Java have the class file

not sure with C# tho

[fervent grove]

any one knowe how to use numpy in python

[rose pawn]

Help

[errant trail]

dont use potato pc ez

[rose pawn]

I will upload the file here later and see if you can copy paste it

[rose pawn]

Ynshiskebsufhc

[rose pawn]

You are IOS? What does that role do?

[rose pawn]

Reiiii

Is there a way I can see exactly which country a source link originates from???

Don't mind me saying rei I am asking this question to everyone

[fervent grove]

Idk

[next lotus]

holy shit i just woke up and damn

the standard libraries tell everything about a language and with the standard libraries java has, it tells a lot about the language 😂

intellij is WORSE that visual studio, you clearly havent tried visual studio

[rose pawn]

Beuh

How do I do this

[next lotus]

ever heard of android studio? its ran behind intellij and look at the first google results

[rose pawn]

Wow

Android studio

[next lotus]

thats very bad and inconsistent, strings when compared via == are references? then why not longs? ints? why do they not behave the same

[next lotus]

THEN WHAT'S THE POINT?? is java is not built to work on all platforms why choose it over C++, c++ doesnt hog a lot of ram and runs faster than a jvm

[rose pawn]

how do i put that text in python

sorry for intruppting

[next lotus]

ohwait

you mean turn it into a text?

[rose pawn]

no litteraly

put it in python

as a list

like copy pasting

[next lotus]

from .txt to list in python? you'rd have to read the file

[rose pawn]

i just wanna copy paste all that in to python and use it as a list

but my pc cant handle it

is there a way i can copy paste undisplayed texts??

[next lotus]

correction: python cant handle it

maybe you should read it?

like

[rose pawn]

i tried

it didnt work

for some error i didnt understand

[errant trail]

show the error to us

[rose pawn]

okay

[errant trail]

legends says that he is still trying to get the error

[rose pawn]

hey i cant copy paste it okay

[errant trail]

screenshot

[rose pawn]

i gotta write it mysefl

[errant trail]

ok

legends says that he is still writting the errors manually and dont just screenshot it

[rose pawn]

i cant find the ss image

where does it go

[errant trail]

just do
win + shift + s
and ctrl + v to paste the image

[next lotus]

what is that

[rose pawn]

oh i already had it

with open('C:\Users\DELL\Desktop\2095486.txt') as f:
lines = f.readlines()
print(lines)

[errant trail]

lmao it took you 10 minutes to get that

wrong unicode

[rose pawn]

what

[errant trail]

i forgot most python users dont know what those things are

[rose pawn]

whats wrong in the code??!?!?!??!

how do i change the unicode?!!!!!!

[errant trail]

https://www.google.com/search?q=unicode&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
(what unicodes are)

[rose pawn]

i know that

but how does it break my code

[errant trail]

> knows what they are
> doesn't know why they break

the code that reads the files are like compilers
and the type of unicode that the file uses is like the programming language

a c# compiler cant compile python scripts
and an utf8 reader cant read whateverunicode

the utf8 reader doesn't know other unicode exists so the error is saying that there is an error in the file

i explained the error now fix it yourself lmao

[rose pawn]

oqay

i will try

import codecs with codecs.open('C:\Users\DELL\Desktop\2095486.txt', encoding='utf-8') as f: for line in f: print repr(line)

same error

[errant trail]

the file is in a different encoding

[rose pawn]

how

its just .txt

[errant trail]

every file can have different encoding

[rose pawn]

how do i know which encoding it is

[errant trail]

i have no idea

[rose pawn]

aw man

[errant trail]

maybe you can check the files property (by right clicking it in file explorer)

teaching a python user how unicode works is pain

[rose pawn]

what is git bash

i searched online and usefull things say you gotta guess

[rose pawn]

this text file includes emojis and stuff

maybe you can guess

[errant trail]

ah yes emojis and stuff that will narrow things down by alot

[rose pawn]

why is that red

[distant wraith]

900KB 🥴

[rose pawn]

emojis and everything

all weird letters and all that

can u guess now?

non existent guy

when i open it on notepad++ and press encoding

utf 8 is selected

so is it utf 8

?

then why doesnt it work

Noexistguy!??!?!

help

cat gal can u help

guys cmon it been nearly an hour

[distant wraith]

Why there's datetime in it

[rose pawn]

because i got the date time of it too

its a mix of data

non exist guy

thanks for teachimg me how to ss very helpfull

[errant trail]

np

also showing the data earlier would be helpful

[next lotus]

there sholdnt be a problem reading a file that huge

[errant trail]

yeah

[errant trail]

i was taking down the lemon cult with my desert eagle and my 5 staged intercontinental ballistic missile capable of holding 10 nuclear warheads with no way of launching it thats why im late

[distant wraith]

There's no problem if there are no datetime functions in it

Or maybe just do something more easy

[rose pawn]

So how do i find the encoding

i put the file above earlier

you can download it

[rose pawn]

whats the ebcoding of this fil

[solar imp]

nope, if you’re really so annoyed over it feel free to make a recommendation to oracle, otherwise the quality of a language has nothing to do with your personal preference

[solar imp]

used for different purposes lol, if you need a project that is going to be worked on by many people and don’t need it to be super efficient, go for Java since it allows abstraction and easy code organization

the more you can make a file abstract the easier it is to read, which is especially good for large teams

also it’s much more readable than other languages, every Java library uses camel case, and most libraries have detailed comments on what each function does, overall it’s just consistent

[rose pawn]

😠

[solar imp]

i don’t see why you’re hating on a language simply because of the purpose it has, it’s not meant to be the fastest or most efficient, it’s meant to be readable and easy to modify with teams

[solar imp]

you’re literally judging an entire language off of the first search result that is autocompleted? lol

[solar imp]

by that same logic am I allowed to say c++ is bad because there are search results in autocomplete like “why is visual studio so slow”? see the issue lol?

[solar imp]

I’ve used visual studio and vscode respectively, and neither are as good as other editors imo. my personal preference is vim, but IntelliJ is still easier to use than visual studio (maybe closer to equal with vscode)

[solar imp]

c++ literally has the most complicated and convoluted standard libraries i’ve seen, that doesn’t make it a bad language though, so why are you judging Java on an obscure library that is there just in case anyone needs in even though in reality no one uses it smh

[timid field]

(noob ai)

[rose pawn]

Help whats the encoding of this file

[rose pawn]

This

Rei the genius

Save me

[next lotus]

java is worse than c++, how is c++ convoluted? c++'s standard libraries are better and more straightforward than java

java's standard libraries are composed of obsolete and legacy garbage while at least in c++ we have the std namespace are still relevant to this day

[next lotus]

so what if every java library uses camel case? every python library uses underscore and lowercase, every c# library uses UpperCamelCase

[next lotus]

it doesnt stop there, lets talk about why abstract and interfaces are scuffed, both cant have fields nor properties

[solar imp]

what LMAO

[solar imp]

obviously it is, have you read anything that we've been debating? it's not better than c++ but it's not meant to be, and no c++ has convoluted libraries, you have to include 2 things to use the string keyword

[solar imp]

not all c++ libraries use the same naming conventions lol

[wild saffron]

afaik, java isnt really good for games, its just more simpler without game engine but are much slower because its actually for normal apps and was first designed for tv remote

[next lotus]

you dont even understand abstract and interface? lmao why are you even here

[wild saffron]

the c language prolly have some upperhand but they are a lil hard for me xd

[next lotus]

sure, which functions exactly?

[wild saffron]

can a person who is good at java learn c# easily ?

[next lotus]

java isnt good at anything

[solar imp]

no i understand them and have been working in java for years, i just don't understand your argument

it makes no sense

[solar imp]

literally made the #1 game in the world but k

most sales + revenue lol

[next lotus]

yep and thats it, good thing we're having bedrock version

[wild saffron]

afaik its made with lwjgl

[solar imp]

lol what

[wild saffron]

from c++

opengl afaik first implemented in c++

[solar imp]

lwjgl is a java library lol

[wild saffron]

and afaik java is good for pc but is not too kind of androids and less powerful pc for games

[next lotus]

typical java programmer, in c# we can have properties and fields on interfaces

[wild saffron]

even though im literally trying to make a private "worldbox project" using java rn

[solar imp]

why, that seems useless

lol

[wild saffron]

wut are those

[next lotus]

wdym useless, for reflection its not

[solar imp]

wise words

[wild saffron]

the reason i havent use c# is becuz the compiler is not that lightweight only and i dont know are there any libraries that are downloaded there (prolly system.drawing)

[solar imp]

honestly cant be asked talking about this at this point

[next lotus]

wdym its more lightweight as java

[solar imp]

you basically ignored 99% of my points and you clearly haven't worked with java enough

[next lotus]

nope, you ignored my points, your best replies are halfassed or WHAT lol

[wild saffron]

the visual studio download only

[solar imp]

not at all but okay, i actually gave extensive paragraphs of information disproving what you're saying but you do you i guess

[wild saffron]

prolly fixed if i have wifi

[next lotus]

you havent even explained well why String when compared by == is compared via reference and you told me to contact oracle lmfao

[solar imp]

i quite literally did

if you read what i said you'd understand that

i extensively described that string is treated as a class in java, and therefore functions as a class

[wild saffron]

is it easier to learn c# or java

lol

[next lotus]

so you admit java is an inconsistent pile of garbage?

[solar imp]

probably c# since this guy's so hellbent on it

[solar imp]

no? LMAO

[wild saffron]

its simple but i concur

[solar imp]

bro its not garbage and it actually runs faster than c# iirc

💀

[wild saffron]

even though i program in it

[next lotus]

string is not treated as a primitive but int, long and double is?? whatt

[solar imp]

no?

lol

[wild saffron]

other than windows*

[solar imp]

if you programmed java youd know there are Integer, Long, and Double classes

lmao

💀

[next lotus]

yes there is but why does string doesnt

[solar imp]

honestly I just blocked for now

[next lotus]

why is there no primitive for string lmao

[solar imp]

i am a firm believer that you cant change people

[next lotus]

LMFAO HE CANT TAKE IT

[solar imp]

nothing i say is gonna change someone who is hellbent to prove their opinion is right

[wild saffron]

yes that's java's weakness

that wut makes me confused when trying to convert c++ into java

[next lotus]

java kids cant even defend their garbage of a language

[next lotus]

you cant, they different

[solar imp]

no idea why so many programmers always have such an overinflated sense of superiority

[wild saffron]

ye

but some component can be translated

[solar imp]

basically his responses were all just saying "java is garbage" despite me extensively explaining why his arguments make no sense

[wild saffron]

i also have some problem with c# to java cuz the struct xd

actually different language different uses

[next lotus]

its not the same, you have to manually convert code

[solar imp]

i guess javas just too hard for some people, can't blame them for having a bias, albeit a bit rude about them

[wild saffron]

yeah

[next lotus]

if java so good then why unity uses c#

like dude c# is faster than java

its literally being used in game engines everywhere

[solar imp]

sorry just was really tempted to see what youre saying, no it's not, and unity uses c# because its cross platform, consoles dont have the java runtime environment installed and therefore cant use it 😃 gonna go back to ignoring ur messages now, just felt like making my point that you're being biased

[next lotus]

hmmmm i wonder who's this

[next lotus]

consoles cant even stand the memory hogging jvm

[wild saffron]

programming languages afaik:

• Java app and for small data
• C++ games and visual graphics
• C# see java but u add several perks
• C small procedural data
• Python Large data

[solar imp]

you haven't made any solid points, you just keep making stupid and pointless claims smh

honestly just gonna mute this channel, not interested in talking with a programmer with an overinflated sense of superiority and refusal to admit their opinion could be wrong smh

cya everyone, gn @wild saffron 👋

[next lotus]

bye lmao

[wild saffron]

bye uwu

[next lotus]

i swear if i see another java programmer

[wild saffron]

and afaik c# can be copied to java manually (for structs) and vice versa is easier, not a much of problem

[next lotus]

yep, code is almost the same

[hasty bane]

lmao

[ocean yoke]

• Java : good for nothing really, just use csharp, (also swing sucks ass)
• Csharp : unity, wpf
• C++ / C : low level stuff, malware R&D, reverse engineering, game engine, stock market calculations
• Rust, Go, V, Zig : a new breed of good languages but not yet widely supported
• Python : AI / Data Science
• JS : web / mobile dev

[half warren]

Edit this to change the output of the custom command 12!

[ocean yoke]

also pyscript and net maui are gonna change the landscape I believe

[ocean yoke]

sheeesh vim

if only I know how to use it

[wild saffron]

i use java cause i dont have game engine

else prolly i will use c#

like the others of course

[ocean yoke]

yeah just use unreal / unity it will get the job done

I am heavily using java rn

for my university projects

[wild saffron]

my pc dont have much graphic support

same*

for recreating worldbox (private purpose)

and for trying to make data program or smh but some parts of java are buggy

[ocean yoke]

data science should be done w python I think (w lib like numpy and pandas which are very OP)

and I suggest to recreate it in unity

I don't have much experience developing in unity

[wild saffron]

ye

[ocean yoke]

but I know a bunch about how unity works internally

and it seems like it would be a good fit

[wild saffron]

but i used java cuz available library and cuz its usually use in some apps

and its easier without game engine and quite useful-er than python

not as useful as c++ or c but simpler

[wild saffron]

i dont use wifi rn so i dont use unity ;-;

[ocean yoke]

I have only seen java used in minecraft and nothing else but yeah it's a good starting language to know OOP

unity needs wifi?

[wild saffron]

the download*

[ocean yoke]

ah I see

are you on mobile data this whole time?

[wild saffron]

yeh pc mobile data connector

[ocean yoke]

damn

that's common here in Indonesia back in the day

like 10 years ago

but not so much anymore

[wild saffron]

xd u live in java learning java ?

ur lives a pun

[ocean yoke]

💀

(yes java is named after a javanese coffee LMAO)

how did you know about java, a foreigner rarely knows about the island all they know is Bali

[wild saffron]

lol searching

[orchid frigate]

Noone talks about this but

C++/C AND rust are all really good for kernels and OS stuff

Which can be said for very few other languages

[hasty bane]

i just learned about pyscript and it sounds great

[errant trail]

js for mobile dev???????

[next lotus]

actually yes there is reactnative for android

there's a new js framework every second

[errant trail]

put js: everything (primarily web) instead of js: web / mobile dev

there's a new js framework every second

[next lotus]

i just realized how clean js can be if you know how to work on it, im currently working on js and im starting to love it lol

its just devs who write shit that makes js look incompetent

[errant trail]

i almost had a heart attack thinking this took 5 seconds to run

apparently using return this with an object containing fs 6 times takes just 5ms

🤔

[barren shale]

it shouldnt matter what it contains

its returning a reference

[next lotus]

maybe fs was a file operation?

[hasty bane]

ok js fan

[errant trail]

oh ok

[next lotus]

im not js fan!!!!!!!!1!!!1!11!!11!

[hasty bane]

^betrayed c#

[next lotus]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[hasty bane]

it's over

[next lotus]

im using https://github.com/agracio/edge-js so that doesnt count

[errant trail]

omg js is so bad!!!!!!!!!! just look at this code!!!!

im now one of the cool kids

0 died oof (1)

[hasty bane]

js bad terrible sucks

i harbor 100% irrational hatred towards javascript

[errant trail]

Activate Windows
Go to Settings to activate Windows.

[next lotus]

everything that contains 'java' is bad

[hasty bane]

real

[next lotus]

except those in indonesia those are good

like coffee

[hasty bane]

true

[ocean yoke]

this is actually true, for example, the base kernel for windows, linux, and macos are all written in C

and I am pretty sure it's applicable to rust and c++ aswell since they basically compiles very similarly

[ocean yoke]

yeah, android framework for js is very common nowadays, especially for web app like discord and facebook

(which uses react)

[wild saffron]

is java easier than javascript or vice versa

[next lotus]

javascript is easier ofc

but both are the lowest of the low

but hey at least you dont have to public static main(String[] args)

[wild saffron]

xd

wuts the best language other than c#

that can be implemented easily

without / with game engine

[next lotus]

c# is easier too, the newest version dont require an entry point so you basically can just

Console.WriteLine("Hello World");``` without a class or namespace

[next lotus]

that would be c#

the other language better than c# is a language called c#

[wild saffron]

is there is graphic library there ?

[next lotus]

wdym, what do you need in a graphics library?

if you want for images there is System.Drawing

if you want something more cross platform there is Skies

[wild saffron]

are there any other compiler for c# other than Visual Basic and Unity ?

[next lotus]

i mean there are just countless graphics libraries

[next lotus]

there are frameworks

[wild saffron]

yes

and is c# easier than java

[next lotus]

.net framework - old, preinstalled in windows
.net core - new, runs on everything cross platform
mono - used by unity

[next lotus]

you know my answer for that lmao

of course

what do you need to use it for anyways

[wild saffron]

how to run .net ;-;

game making prolly

[next lotus]

download unity then lol

you wont need vs for unity

[wild saffron]

without game engine* (unless its 3d)

[next lotus]

but

that doesnt make sense

if it doesnt have a game engine then

wait

u mean

console?

[wild saffron]

my pc isnt that good, will unity work xd

yeah using that

system.drawing also

the next thing is can u place image in system.drawing ?

[next lotus]

just use unity

is the game 3d?

if your pc cant handle unity, then it cant handle 3d development in general

[wild saffron]

oof yes

[next lotus]

but im sure it will handle unity

[wild saffron]

my pc can handle 3d but not making the models

and i havent download unity cuz uhhh

yeah i used mobile data to pc

[wild saffron]

are there this function in unity ?

[next lotus]

unity has its own renderer ofc

i dont have much experience in unity

[wild saffron]

cuz when i used java there is this "java.awt.image.BufferedImage and bla bla bla i/o "

i mean in the compiler

not the unity ;-;

[next lotus]

yes unity is shipped with its own compiler Mono which is independent on the .net framework

[next lotus]

lmao are you trying to use java swing?

[wild saffron]

xd ye

[next lotus]

that thing hasnt been updated for 20 years

[wild saffron]

thats the problem

[next lotus]

LMAO DUDE I FEEL YOU

[wild saffron]

XD

[next lotus]

like why is jlable used FOR SHOWING IMAGES???? A FUCKING LABEL??

you cant even control image size

[wild saffron]

i tried recreating worldbox "using perlin noise" and (private uses),

oh u can control afaik

but not the quadruple points

or u can control quadruple points but quite hard

[next lotus]

you have to manually resize the goddamn image what's the point of a control library if there's no control for showing image?

[wild saffron]

and also the problem with java is the output / input thingy

idk if c# fix it

[next lotus]

sure what's the problem

[wild saffron]

so it can create a new text file but

when i try append to it

it cant

xd

[next lotus]

you might wanna do streams for that

c# has a very straightforward api

[wild saffron]

lol

[next lotus]

using (StreamWriter w = File.AppendText("myFile.txt"))
{
  w.WriteLine("hello");
}``` like this

appends string without overwrite

[wild saffron]

yeah ty

wait back to the question can u post image to a c# windows using a c# compiler ?

[next lotus]

if you dont want streams and just wanna write a small piece of text you can
File.AppendAllText(@"c:\path\file.txt", "text content");

[next lotus]

yep if you want something similar (but 900x better) to java swing there's winforms

[wild saffron]

wut is that

[next lotus]

a ui library something like

http://documentation.devdept.com/120/vs_toolbox.png

this

[wild saffron]

oh ok

is c# faster than java in other os or only in windows ?

[next lotus]

c# is faster of course

alright look

https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r20&hw=ph&test=plaintext

asp.net core is second fastest web framework

[hasty bane]

all of these are suspiciously close

[errant trail]

a script that takes 50ms to run is literally called slow when we dont even feel the difference between 50ms and 0ms so its not that suspicious

[hasty bane]

[orchid frigate]

As an os dev yes this is true

However rust is kinda like the new kernel language

The compiler is extremely customisable and the language has many libraries or crates for os stuff

Like alot

Alot more than C or c++

There are wrappers around most bootloaders too

[rose pawn]

Guys help me ffs

*Please

[rose pawn]

What is the encoding of this file

[next lotus]

why does that matter, from the looks of it, it can work on ascii

try utf8

[ocean yoke]

yeah cargo is very cool, but rust is way harder to use and less flexible (no inheritance too)

[north dune]

pretty colors

[knotty root]

I have the full Legendary team of attacks tools

[timid field]

I tried linkedin quizzes for programming languages

I failed all languages i knew in the past

And succeeded in c# which i started days ago

[rose pawn]

Bluh

[frigid pivot]

@rose pawn yeyehaha

[next lotus]

ofc, who can get wrong with c#, no boiler plates, straight to the point and predictable

[timid field]

I legit failed in Unity even tho its where i learnt c#

(not all wrpng answers were code related)

[wet girder]

that's the issue with quizzes like that

you have easier time knowing the answers with less experience

or well ofc it's easier with shit ton of experience

[hollow bronze]

get good at answering tests with very specific questions
or
get good at making things with unity

experience in unity is superior than quiz knowledge

[hoary hound]

get good at answering tests with very specific questions
you just summarized university/college lol

[barren shale]

yeah

i get higher than average marks

but I study less than average

im just good at answering questions

[timid field]

Happened too many times

[distant wraith]

And forget it before start fixing

[timid field]

Luckily i note everything i discover like bug fixes, ideas and etc

[orchid frigate]

Looking at this chat i realise

Damn I dont take coding seriously

At all

I code like once a week

While drunk

And if I get a bug I just stop coding and return 2 weeks later

[edgy tundra]

A

[main brook]

imagine taking notes

i don't

[wheat warren]

Nerds

[main brook]

says the guy with a tank pfp

[rose pawn]

Reo

How do i find the encoding of a file

Ew im a wolf

Jupe downgrade me to chicken

[orchid frigate]

how have you yet to find the solution

it has been

like 3 days or more

[wet girder]

You'll just have to guess and try decoding it until you find the right encoding

[wet girder]

press the freeze level in #💬role-info and I can change it to chicken if you want

[rose pawn]

:0

I did

[wet girder]

there

[rose pawn]

Wowa thanks jupe

[wheat warren]

Should i learn python guys?

[orchid frigate]

Learn assembly

Or

Learn how to write programmes byte by byte

[wheat warren]

Ok

[next lotus]

no, c#

assembly works too but goodluck with that

[barren shale]

learn to not listen to haydot

[hoary hound]

After having had to learn assembly risc v, Intel and ARM I say, don't learn assembly, you will never write better code than the compiler

Unless you are very interested in low level stuff and want a better understanding on how it works

[hasty bane]

if it's gonna be your first language then sure

its easy and it is pretty useful

[wheat warren]

Ok

[next lotus]

but in the long run you'll end up using c++ or c#

[wet girder]

depends

not everyone needs those languages

python is good for data science for example

or scripting in cyber security

[next lotus]

the best stack overflow answer

[hasty bane]

no

[hasty bane]

*gets deleted*

[rose pawn]

[orchid frigate]

eh

not entirely true

the compiler does ALOT of optimisations

which can be quite damaging depending on what you are doing

even when you explicitely tell it not to do any its still not perfect

[grave patrol]

idk how to code

[knotty root]

skill issue

git gud

[scenic pagoda]

I know some very basic python, does anyone have any tips?

[rose pawn]

Best tip ppl here can give you is "swithx to #C!!!1!1!1" 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓

They can also fix your entire code every day because u are too lazy to do so but mostly "switch to sharp sea!!!1!1!"

[hoary hound]

You can choose by yourself the level of optimization, and you can also write high level code while being aware of the optimizations the compiler is going to do

Even then are you really going to change the assembly by yourself?

[orchid frigate]

all im saying is

depending on the project

you may want to use assembly rather than a high level language

like when you want to do very low level stuff like writing to ports

which C cant do

and the inline asm is trash

[hoary hound]

The closer you get to the machine the more you have to speak its language of course, but most beginners usually don't go there to start learning programming, as you lack understanding of many programming or generally computer concepts

[hasty bane]

practice

come up with smth

try to make it

google things

dont be like kerim and try to get people to do your work for you

[next lotus]

swithx to #C!!!1!1!1

[orchid frigate]

c# is like a plague

when it infects someone

that someone is a gonner

[next lotus]

theres a reason for that

[orchid frigate]

eh

[next lotus]

c# is perfect, everyone seeks perfecrion

[orchid frigate]

no

It cant d

o

kernels

nor bootloaders

nor anything low level

so

not perfect

[next lotus]

as if thats a problem :')

[orchid frigate]

that is

if it was perfect

like rust

it would do anything

from web

to kernels

and even bootloaders if with limine or multiboot

[orchid frigate]

at some point I think that thinks become so low level that

you dont need any prior programming knowledge to understand the concepts

for instance show your average c# enjoyer some assembly or make them look through the bytes of a program

or even make them flip a bit

they will have no idea what to do

[next lotus]

as if thats a problem lmao who needs to write a new os like dude people dont think about that normally everyday

i mean sure man keep writing a new kernel we're here writing games, backend and traning neural networks lol

[orchid frigate]

lmao

so

I only mentioned os development

1 time

if even that

yet you somehow thought I was talking about that

so ima ask you

how many times do you think as an os dev have I needed to look though the bytes of a program

if you guessed none

you would be correct

all of these things are things that everyone needs to know atleast the basics of

because they can help you in every case

[next lotus]

but you dont really have to do that

you have a compiler that optimizes and makes sure everything works well

thats what compilers do dont they

[orchid frigate]

how many times have you written something

in assembly

[orchid frigate]

do that like the rest 99% of programmers

im sure thats interesting at this point

btw im not only an os dev

I also know graphics APIs

but im sure you will find a way to make that look bad too because your favorite language sadly doesnt have any good wrappers around any good api

[next lotus]

wdym, we're literally the language of billion dollar games running in realistic graphics

anyways i dont see a point in remaking the wheel

[orchid frigate]

tell me one api that has a good working wrapper in c#

the opengl one sucks

I tried it and

1. Using pointers in c# is pain
2. It didnt work for half the things

[barren shale]

nobody uses opengl in C#

opentk is a thing

[orchid frigate]

I dont exactly remember why opentk is shit

But I remember that opentk is shit

[rose pawn]

Try not a act like a cult for 5 minutes challenge

I'm opening my new cult

"Helping people find the encoding of files cult"

I will spread like a plegue

[orchid frigate]

I cannot believe

you are still stuck

to this problem

and have made 0 progress

and are still actively looking for help

its...sorta inspirational actually

[fleet flower]

Is there a way to skip time on mobile?

[ocean yoke]

c++ and rust ftw

wait those two communities don't mix together very well...

👀

[ocean yoke]

wellp this is somewhat true and wrong

for large and reusable code, yes

but for minor cases, especially patching and rewriting a function using library like minhook to hook the function you could improve stuff

but you are kind of true that speed shouldn't be the your main reason of learning assembly

I have been dealing w assembly codes for 3-4 years now (mostly x32, occasionally x64, but never asm)

[hasty bane]

c++ users try not to say "c++ has more libraries" challenge
rust users try not to say "safety though" challenge

[knotty root]

Plague*

[wispy vale]

i need some help

[next lotus]

what language

[wispy vale]

im tryna make an item using war box mod

[next lotus]

i believe that would be in #🔧modding-talk

[wispy vale]

no ones online i gues

so i came here

[next lotus]

well this channel is mostly dedicated for the c# cult but sure

[wispy vale]

im havin g this error

[next lotus]

can you show code

[wispy vale]

sure

using System;
using NCMS.Utils;
using NCMS;
using UnityEngine;
using ReflectionUtility;
using System.Threading;
using System.Text;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using System.Linq;
using System.Text;
using HarmonyLib;

namespace NewBox{
[ModEntry]
class Main : MonoBehaviour{
void Awake(){
Button.init();

    public void Update(){
      Equipment();
    }
    static string civId = "unit_human" + "unit_elf" + "unit_orc" + "unit_dwarf" + "baby_human" + "baby_elf" + "baby_orc" + "baby_dwarf";
    void Equipment(){
      var Units = MapBox.instance.units.getSimpleList();
      foreach(var unit in Units)
        {
          if(civId.Contains(unit.stats.id)){
            var pSlot = unit.equipment.getSlot(EquipmentType.Amulet);
           if(pSlot.data.id == "Cross"){
                WorldTile pTile = unit.currentTile;
                MapBox.instance.CallMethod("getObjectsInChunks", pTile, 5, MapObjectType.Actor);
                var temp_map_objects = Reflection.GetField(MapBox.instance.GetType(), MapBox.instance, "temp_map_objects") as List<BaseSimObject>;
                for (int i = 0; i < temp_map_objects.Count; i++)
                 {
                   Actor actor = (Actor)temp_map_objects[i];
                    if(actor.stats.id == "demon" || actor.stats.id == "ghost"){
                    actor.killHimself(false, AttackType.Other, false, true);
                    WorldTile pTileActor = actor.currentTile;
                    MapBox.instance.fxDivineLight.playOn(pTileActor);
                    }
                  }
              }
         }
    }

}
}
}}

public and static ,why dont they work

[next lotus]

look

[wispy vale]

yes

[next lotus]

you missed a } on line 21

try this

using System;
using NCMS.Utils;
using NCMS;
using UnityEngine;
using ReflectionUtility;
using System.Threading;
using System.Text;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using System.Linq;
using System.Text;
using HarmonyLib;

namespace NewBox {
  [ModEntry]
  class Main: MonoBehaviour {
    void Awake() {
      Button.init();
    }
    public void Update() {
      Equipment();
    }
    static string civId = "unit_human" + "unit_elf" + "unit_orc" + "unit_dwarf" + "baby_human" + "baby_elf" + "baby_orc" + "baby_dwarf";
    void Equipment() {
      var Units = MapBox.instance.units.getSimpleList();
      foreach(var unit in Units) {
        if (civId.Contains(unit.stats.id)) {
          var pSlot = unit.equipment.getSlot(EquipmentType.Amulet);
          if (pSlot.data.id == "Cross") {
            WorldTile pTile = unit.currentTile;
            MapBox.instance.CallMethod("getObjectsInChunks", pTile, 5, MapObjectType.Actor);
            var temp_map_objects = Reflection.GetField(MapBox.instance.GetType(), MapBox.instance, "temp_map_objects") as List < BaseSimObject > ;
            for (int i = 0; i < temp_map_objects.Count; i++) {
              Actor actor = (Actor) temp_map_objects[i];
              if (actor.stats.id == "demon" || actor.stats.id == "ghost") {
                actor.killHimself(false, AttackType.Other, false, true);
                WorldTile pTileActor = actor.currentTile;
                MapBox.instance.fxDivineLight.playOn(pTileActor);
              }
            }
          }
        }
      }
    }
  }
}

[wispy vale]

hold up all i saw was errors

i think this worked but another problem was an icon with the same key was aadded in resources now

[next lotus]

because the code is messy, you might wanna clean it a lil bit

[wispy vale]

yes.....

[wispy vale]

another help

[next lotus]

ok

[wispy vale]

class Button
{
public static void init()
{

      GodPower CrossPower1 = new GodPower();
      CrossPower1.id = "CrossPower1button";
      CrossPower1.name = "CrossPower1button";
      CrossPower1.forceBrush = "circ_0";
      CrossPower1.holdAction = false;
      CrossPower1.showToolSizes = false;
      CrossPower1.unselectWhenWindow = false;
      CrossPower1.click_action = new PowerActionWithID(action_CrossPower1Click);
      AssetManager.powers.add(CrossPower1);

      var CrossPower1But = NCMS.Utils.PowerButtons.CreateButton(
      "CrossPower1button",
      Mod.EmbededResources.LoadSprite($"{Mod.Info.Name}.Resources.Icon.icon_Cross1_bone.png"),
      "Cross1",
      "Give a unit a Cross1",
      Vector2.zero,
      NCMS.Utils.ButtonType.GodPower);

      NCMS.Utils.PowerButtons.AddButtonToTab(
      CrossPowerBut,
      NCMS.Utils.PowerTab.Kingdoms,
      new Vector2(1082, 18));
      }'

cross powerbut doesnt exist in current context

what should i change it to

[next lotus]

alr look can you format the code

type it like this

``[code here]``

[wispy vale]

how

this works i guess

@next lotus

[next lotus]

this part might be to technical

i dont do worldbox mods

so its best if you ask someone who knows at #🔧modding-talk

[wispy vale]

its cleared

thanks for ur concern bro

[rose pawn]

Make an automatic file encoding determinor on #C

[next lotus]

c# does that automatically, when creating a read stream on a file or just about any stream not only a file, get it via StreamReader.CurrentEncoding

[rose pawn]

Can you do it with my file

[next lotus]

dude look

if you can

open that file in notepad

theres a 99% chance thats utf8

and anything can read it

[knotty root]

k

[timid field]

made some loading UI for my game

still trying to make a decent game menu UI

[mossy acorn]

Hello

[main brook]

well it does runs code on the server

[rose pawn]

Man i miss annoying people on this channel

Hopefully i will get back to working on my code soon

Ive been really lazy lately

[timid field]

My unity project broke while i was watching youtube

Project refused to open so had to create new one and move all sh** and stuff and reapply some unapplied stuff

[next lotus]

they're all gone, i drove them away

this channel is better dead if it's not talking about c#

[knotty root]

nooo

[orchid frigate]

Btw an idt means interrupt description table and a gdt means global descriptor table they are put somewhere in memory (usually in higher memory in a read only space) and Im not gonna talk about c#

[solar imp]

switch to a custom java engine 😉

[timid field]

Not after all what i have spent for my game

[timid field]

I have decided to add tarot cards almost like from jojo for my game for a specific use

[next lotus]

ayo did someone say jojo

mudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamudamuda

oraoraoraoraoraora

[west echo]

Worldbox do they really write in Java ?

[hoary hound]

C#

[west echo]

mix up

c# is very similar to java

[orchid frigate]

so like I was joking about learning quantum programming a few days ago but

the more I think about it

it just makes sense I learn it

[orchid frigate]

ohh shii there is q#

im sure yall c# fans will enjoy this...it appears to not be very similar to c#

[next lotus]

wait wtf is q#

wait what is this

[main brook]

watch the security problem

get solved

its literally like bogosort

but since its on quantum level

its fast

[rose pawn]

Can you merge two programs written in two different languages

[main brook]

yes

its called

an API

[knotty root]

I cant change the language to finnish in this server!

[orchid frigate]

Q# is like

C#

As a quantum language

But in python for some reason

[next lotus]

yes, every language should have some kind of subprocess library

in c# we have Process and StandardOutput and StandardInput which we can write and read from thr process, python has subprocess too

or you can use sockets and communicate 2 programs via udp

if u have complete control of the other process that is

[cloud solar]

from datetime import date
import speech_recognition as sr
import os
r = sr.Recognizer()
mic = sr.Microphone(device_index=1)
import pyttsx3
tts_engine = pyttsx3.init()
voices = tts_engine.getProperty('voices')
tts_engine.setProperty('voice', voices[1].id)
tts_engine.runAndWait()
def listening():
    print("listening...")
    audio = r.listen(source)
    output = r.recognize_google(audio)
    return output
def AImessage(message):
    tts_engine.say(message)
    tts_engine.runAndWait()
    r.pause_threshold = 1
with mic as source:
    r.adjust_for_ambient_noise(source)
    AImessage("Hi")
    output = listening()
    if output == "hello":
        AImessage("How can i help you?")
        output = listening()
        if output == "what time is it":
            AImessage('its ' + str(date.today()))
        elif output == "open app":
            AImessage("what app should i open?")
            os.system(listening())

if by any chance someone would want to make answering bot in python

[rose pawn]

:0

[main brook]

or like just use an api like mostly are made from C or C++

so you can use that to bridge

[knotty root]

May I use this form an assignment plz?

[main brook]

qhat

what

[cloud solar]

here ya go:

from datetime import date
from multiprocessing.connection import Listener
import speech_recognition as sr
import os
r = sr.Recognizer()
mic = sr.Microphone(device_index=1)
import pyttsx3
tts_engine = pyttsx3.init()
voices = tts_engine.getProperty('voices')
tts_engine.setProperty('voice', voices[1].id)
tts_engine.runAndWait()
def listening():
    print("listening...")
    audio = r.listen(source)
    print("Translating your speech...")
    output = r.recognize_google(audio)
    return output
def AImessage(message):
    tts_engine.say(message)
    tts_engine.runAndWait()
    r.pause_threshold = 1
def WaitForActions():
    AImessage(" How can i help you?")
    output = listening()

    if output == "what date is it":
            AImessage('its ' + str(date.today()))    
    elif output == "open application":
            AImessage("what app should i open?")
            os.system(listening())
    elif output == "do speech test":
            AImessage("Test started")
            message = listening()
            AImessage("I think you said "+ str(message))
    elif output == "exit code":
            print("quitting")
            exit()
    else:
        AImessage("I didn't understand,")
        WaitForActions()
        

name = "Pit"
with mic as source:
    r.adjust_for_ambient_noise(source)
    AImessage("Welcome back  "+ name)
    output = listening()
    if output == "hello" or "hi" or "welcome":
        WaitForActions()
            

another version

feel free to copy

[cloud solar]

btw how should i name the bot?

[knotty root]

Not google

[tidal elbow]

love how the company i work for was spending £100+ per month on a service i recreated for free

        args = passport_parser.parse_args()
        image = args['file'].read()
        try:
            mrz = read_mrz(image, save_roi=True)
        except ValueError:
            return {"result": [{"prediction": []}]}

        if mrz is None:
            return {"result": [{"prediction": []}]}

        
        return {
            "result": [
                {
                    "prediction": [
                        {
                            "label": "MRZ",
                            "ocr_text": f"{mrz.country}{mrz.date_of_birth}"
                        }
                    ]
                }
            ]
        }

also, github co-pilot is cool

[drowsy pulsar]

.

[barren shale]

lmao u stoopid bruh

i would make the service then recommend them the service as a better and cheaper option

and then make 90 per month

[tidal elbow]

we did consider it

we were like

god we shoulda said we found an alternative service for half the price

[rose pawn]

Coders cave more like coders crave (for someone to ask for python help)

[hasty bane]

its pretty cool

but also weird and i dont like

[violet edge]

@cursive abyss

[violet edge]

Same

[long eagle]

hi i want help

why does my public float dont shows up in the inspector

im using unity

[balmy wadi]

#🔧mods

[sharp birch]

This message is here now bois

[rigid magnet]

I like coding I still need help trying to change the source code and accessing hidden files

To hidden stuff in the base game

[hollow bronze]

if you're talking about worldbox go here ---> #🔧modding-talk

this channel is not for worldbox

[rose pawn]

How do you make an annoying discord bpt

Using python

[main brook]

just

make it

[rigid magnet]

I’m not tAlking about WorldBox

[hollow bronze]

then clarify what you're modifying

otherwise people will assume you're talking about worldbox which lots of people do in this channel

also we just cant help any without any information

[long eagle]

this is not about mods?

[main brook]

read the goddamn

channel name

@long eagle

why would they make a channel called #🔧modding-talk

and have separate channel called #⌨coders-cave

and not smashed into one

[long eagle]

I KNOW IT\

i asked for help this and then this guy said #🔧mods and then i answered this is not about mods as i am telling him im not questioning mod

[main brook]

ah

well

you're also being vague

[long eagle]

yeah

i know

btw

[main brook]

hm?

[rose pawn]

I like this knight guy

[main brook]

you mean

haydot?

[rose pawn]

What did a #C programmer say to a python programmer?

[next lotus]

uh

they cant see sharp

lol

[barren shale]

https://tenor.com/view/your-mom-spy-tf2-team-fortress2-sheesh-gif-21838783

[left leaf]

you still need help?

[long eagle]

nah

i found the problem, i dont save my script

nobody says i need to save my script

[timid field]

Guess what happened

ANOTHER FRICKIN WINDOWS 10 UPDATE

That turnt off my unity project

Its annoying

To keep using backup scenes

[orchid frigate]

What but

It warns you

Before updating

[next lotus]

i thought windows 10 only updates every shutdown

[barren shale]

it does

but if you dont update for a while

it will schedule a restart

you can decline

but you probably didnt read the prompt and just hit accept

[orchid frigate]

if there is one thing I like about windows

its the updating

as you said it schedules a time for a restart which is super cool

and it doesnt really go into your face constantly asking you for an update unless you havent updated in like

2 years

[hasty bane]

and when it updates it breaks your gpu drivers

[orchid frigate]

eh havent had a problem with that yet

[hasty bane]

happened to me once kek

[timid field]

I always hit do it later

But i had i tripped on the wire that connects electricity to my pc

When i started it gave me the stupid getting windows ready

[delicate grove]

:)

[wild saffron]

how to make c# game loop

i tried but it didnt work

[timid field]

I wish if microsoft made windows 10 updates frickin not annoying

[dire loom]

You can schedule windows updates so they don't happen during the day (or whenever you're not using it)

[manic bane]

ayo with what language is worldbox made? (im new to coding and stuff just wanna know)

[hasty bane]

c#

[next lotus]

c#

[knotty root]

c#

[bitter stratus]

c#

[manic bane]

so would it be possible if they for example didn't use c# but c++ would there be any difference in how difficult it would be more diff or less?

[next lotus]

they can using unreal engine

but look

with c# you wont have to deal with pointers and manually write everything

unity compiles c# to native code using il2cpp

[manic bane]

so what if I want to make a game like worldbox/Rts game

is c# better

bcs I wanna do a fullcourse but dunno which one

[next lotus]

do c# my boy

the entire .net framework is all you need

[manic bane]

alright bro tnx

[next lotus]

need game development? unity
need a web framework? asp
need mobile, desktop, macos, linux, ios app development? maui

np bro

[orchid frigate]

dont listen to the c# fanboy

yes c# is good

but its always nice to also know other languages

or to try other languages

you know find the one you like

[hoary hound]

rip free copilot

nevermind, being a student has its perks

[hasty bane]

screw you github im gonna make so many code snippets your ai wouldnt even be able to compete

[pulsar phoenix]

Some one teach me to code for a joke

[timid field]

I know but its easy to forget to schedule an actual long time rather than the normal update later thing

[half warren]

User reported to the proper authorities!

[hollow bronze]

kek someone tried to advertise a crypto spam/scam here (they got banned), they really picked the worst time ever to do so

[hasty bane]

[main brook]

definitely not

C# is good

multipurpose

but doesn't always have a "good at"

in some part

its the issue with all things

you could be proficient at something but not something else

jack of all trades is

okay ish at everything

it does the job just not as good as the proficient one

[next lotus]

too late lol, he already watched 5 hours of c# tutorials

[next lotus]

thats not really the case

you can be proficient at something and be proficient at another

[molten musk]

Hi

[fallow wasp]

I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone know how to fix a problem where you accidentally merge a Drive and the Downloads folder into one?

I would show an image, but as it turns out I cannot images

[rigid mulch]

anyone here good with unity

[rose pawn]

Rei

[urban zodiac]

My computer has burned down using unity

[rigid mulch]

unity is a light game engine used for mostly indie shit

are u on a black berry

the literal fruit

[wet girder]

"light"

that's bs

[rigid mulch]

i mean as in stuff compared to unreal obviously depends on what your making

[wet girder]

still not light

[rigid mulch]

its mostly for indie games i dont mean light as in doesnt have many features/ cant handle what it does

theres insane stuff using unity like boneworks

[urban zodiac]

Blackberry??? No

[rigid mulch]

strawberry?

nanner?

[urban zodiac]

Dragon fruit

[rigid mulch]

im developing game on a lemon to each there own

[urban zodiac]

I have Linux operating system on a windows pc!

[rigid mulch]

ive heard linux is better but havent took the time to really check it out myself

[urban zodiac]

I have changed a chrome book to a windows laptop then uninstall windows and install Ubuntu!

[main brook]

cool

this is a war

channel

[next lotus]

wdym light, escape from tarkov is unity

genshin impact too

[rigid mulch]

depends on what ur making

but typically alot of indie devs use it thats why i had to specify that lots of big games like boneworks used it aswell

light wasnt the best word more so accessible or versatile for smaller devs

[main brook]

its made easy for everyone

that's why most games are indie

[next lotus]

exactly

[main brook]

because others doesn't provide the same experience

[rigid mulch]

yeah thats what i meant 👍

[main brook]

and etc

[rigid mulch]

things like unreal are more popular for bigger studios you dont see many indie devs working with that

and its harder to learn

[main brook]

yes it is very complex

but also works better for those type of game so

yeah

[rigid mulch]

i like unity very fun to mess around with

[main brook]

haven't used unity

the only game engine i used is

godot

[rigid mulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/522573952086704128/957508601780502528/Monkeyaseprite.gif

i made this monkey for a project

[main brook]

very interesting its a monke

where banana

[rigid mulch]

well the monkes are kinda bad/ trained to attack u

so you kinda have to explode them

in a gory fashion

[main brook]

i like

[rigid mulch]

monkeys do nothing but screech and steal stuff so its acceptable

[main brook]

not really

[rigid mulch]

except proboscis monkey they are cool

[main brook]

they survive

their screams are actually a form of communication

literally like ours

[rigid mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/proboscis-monkey-big-nose-simian-eating-gif-16955749

[main brook]

pretty cute actually

that monkey

[rigid mulch]

made one my pfp

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/860365592551489536/989400464611241994/unknown_1.jpg

i made him really happy in photoshop

[main brook]

that looks like something but i don't know what

[rigid mulch]

its sammy thats what it is

sammy the proboscis monkey

yes i gave him a name

[next lotus]

that looks like

uh

[next lotus]

ballsack

lol

[hollow bronze]

a lot of bigger studios also just make their own engines

certain game types also just need their own to run smooth

like teardown/noita I believe are their own engines

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like league of legend

[hollow bronze]

both sim games, worldbox probably would've benefitted from being its own engine instead of unity due to sim performance.

but uh unless you got the manpower or the willpower to do that

unity works fantastically for loads of stuff we'd normally encounter

and makes it approachable

I mean loads of games from small groups of people are popular from unity. The advantage of being able to come up with interesting and unique concepts fast/easy due to the process

I haven't worked on unreal myself, but by the looks like a good place to make a game that looks/functions triple A without having to make an entire new game engine or anything like that

also has great video rendering/simulation stuff beyond games

both are excellent creation tools that really depend on what you're doing for them to benefit you

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dont forget about making it cross platform

[covert jewel]

traiteditor

[nova wedge]

anyone familiar w/ Matlab in here?

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ayo https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2022

[rose pawn]

I want autiomatic file encoding finder

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java is at the depths lmao

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you dont have to

[rose pawn]

Haha python is above c sharp

[next lotus]

i know lol

but look

.net 7 has a whole lot of new shit

like a cross platform ui

[main brook]

cool

we also have that

but its not incorporated

so its third party library

[next lotus]

also id love to learn rust

but its kinda not mature yet, unless there's a crossplatform library for making desktop and mobile apps count me in lol

[main brook]

its mature

not sure watchu mwan

[next lotus]

is there a game development platform for rust? like one that actually caters for rust

can you make mobile applications using rust?

[main brook]

maybe

rust compiles to machine code

doesn't it

[next lotus]

yeaah it kinda needs more development platforms or whatever you call these xD but pretty solid language

[main brook]

its good for what its made for

so

yes

[orchid frigate]

rust has something for everything

game development? havent tried the game development crates but I know alot of them exist

there is an entire discord dedicated to it with many people

want more low level? Most graphics apis have wrappers around the language

idk about the higher level stuff

nor the app stuff

but I know there is ways to do that too

so yea pretty solid language which managed to become my favorite...maybe after c

[orchid frigate]

ye

also

the linux kernel was discussed to be rewritten to it

which....I mean I guess if someone has the time to do it and is willing to update the kernel by himself

C still somehow feels superior to rust in kernels even with all the new shiny tools rust brings

[main brook]

why do you

use

"himself"

are you saying women can't????

*angry noise occuring*

unless you actually mean the creator of linux himself

[pulsar phoenix]

Can some one teach me how to code

[next lotus]

download visual studio

[pulsar phoenix]

Wich one

[pulsar phoenix]

How is this ment to help me learn how to code

[distant wraith]

YouTube

[pulsar phoenix]

Tell me is that how you learnt

[distant wraith]

Nah

[pulsar phoenix]

Then how Im I going learn that way

Stupid mic stupid face

Watch me get ban for that

[pulsar phoenix]

How did you

[distant wraith]

I didn't learn coding from YouTube, but that doesn't mean you can't learn from it

[pulsar phoenix]

NO

I must go on a journey to get to your point

[distant wraith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/522561390330904587/989100714729017344/ezgif.com-gif-maker.gif

[pulsar phoenix]

EXACTLY