#⌨coders-cave
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on the other hand it could be a craftful handwritten shitpost
you'd be amazed how good ai is at shitposting though
It's definitely a weird one yes, especially the colors
https://lynndotpy.xyz/posts/reso_intro.html
Would not recommend
C developers unite
You always have to ruin the fun dont you
I’m not allowing your dumbness to go unchecked
Doubt
c# is not bad, you're just bad :))))
c# is the Worst! !
есть
Bill gates shall I remind you that windows is actually barely ever used for anything more than desktop computers and that Linux is used for the top 500 supercomputers in the world?
Get gud nub
Make better os
oh this is so fun
are you using the distro that's used on these 500 supercomputers ?
these custom distros that are only made for stability
not because linux is better than windows
only because linux is customizable
agree
Hamza probably so mad rn
Cant handle the fact linux is better at something than windows
Also I just wanna say
I fucking hate this chat and what it has become
So ima leave it now
never said that linux isnt better than windows at some things
because im destroying you with facts and logic ?
Nothing that you said has made even the slightest sense
nothing
Not a single bit
Its like you are that one news source that keeps lying over and over
For attention
maybe because you are dumb ?
Just keep more quiet
that's why it doesnt make sense to you
Noone likes you in this chat anyways
wdym
Thats why rei blocked you too
@knotty root @next lotus you like me right ?
LMAO
what
You literally pinged the two people that like you
I can do that too
Bro shut up you are making me sad
now you're saying that there are people that like me
wow so rude haydot
Because of how sad you are and desperate for any attention
me ?
Warn me iidc
What do you care what I do
If you dont like it
i dont care
Just don't speak about it
im just pointing it out
Bro
Wtf
Do you mean
Go away
I wont miss you a single fucking bit
Your desperate for attention
And trolling
So idc
Im gonna get you demoted some day just you wait
Can the 2 childeren here stop argueing? I dont care what it is about, not even gonna take my time to dig into it. Just stop argueing and be kind with one and another or take it to dms were no one will be bothered by this childish behaviour. Thanks the both of you 🙂
lmfaoo
coders cave more like caveman cave. jeez
im waiting for the day linux becomes better than windows
(probably never)
i'll still use it tho because i like the price, the speed, the size and the lack of windows products that are HELL to navigate
coder cave isnt coder cave if we dont argue about the language we use being superior than everything else
thanks to you
Oh well if the arguments go to far I punish both. 🤗 Learn to draw the line when things go to far. The both of you. Happy argueing! 
it goes too far when i ban haydot for having a different opinion
Only I am allowed to ban people for having a different opinion then myself >:/
kidding ofc
havent said anything about Windows, windows is shit i agree on that but C# is still the best language there is
dont try to switch the topic :)
macos is the shittiest

@wet girder can we get an argue ban in here
I'd rather people talk about worldbox than devolve into arguing which os or language is better
read channel description
"this chat is not worldbox related" :)))
noooooooooo!
you're right tho
It seems like the latest version of Worldbox on MacOS is Intel version, and not the Universal version that supports apple silicon and Intel
Could Maxim know about this
Brainfuck
Brainfuck
because macos sux
ahh yes thicc fluent api in C#
magic
its called ASCII bruh
sec
hold alt
and type on your numpad 196
─
you get this
────
┌──────────────────────┐
└──────────────────────┘
they dont connect on discord since there's line space
but should connect on a console
here's the project
its in this class
build method
broken creativity part of brain gang
- like 95% of my projects are never used by anyone but me so why bother
breaks brain
pain
same but i make them nice for myself
indeed
i just add print statements to every function so that there's a lot going on on the screen every time you do smth
that's how you know the program is serious business
I agree to this lol. I mean people can litteraly have the same discussions without the argument part. Arguments are unnecasery and those who enjoy arguments gotta do that somewhere else.
Aight im back
Next time I see an argument I mute both
terraria boss theme starts playing
Basically
And everyone involved


Whenever you press a button on your keyboard it sends an interrupt (its like a call to a special function) to the cpu with some data
That data is the hexadecimal value of the key pressed
So the cpu can handle it
So every button has its ASCII value
Gonna ignore hamza from now on also
uhoh
Dont wanna get into more useless arguments
so anyways lets discuss C# and why its the best language ever
Basically just search up "ASCII table" and you will see what each button's value is
if its the best then why does unity let me write bad code?
CUZ ITS MADE IN USA
its a free language
👋
adultfriendfinder
what a terrible name
did haydot got their mod role removed because of what happened
No? He resigned quite long time ago
wtf is that
why are you on those sites
are you trying to get free ram or something
understandable
Interesting, Uh, server user name
Hmmm, Interesting
busy with life I supposed
my beautiful code I wrote in school :)
im gonna guess the programming language
c#
or c++
actually my final answer is c#
Me when static public instead of public static

because the method or whatever name looks like java and we know that c# is just java but
static public is pog
public static is not pog
@wet girder also why are you adding comments to obvious things like "create a list" when the code have like infinite "list" in them
lol (<-- toSoundFriendly-inator)
my teacher made me
I normally don't comment anything lmao
i try to make my code as flexible as possible so i can work for less time for same result
because im lazy
lol
also reuse variables that have a name that is kinda related so i dont need to declare another one
lol
But I found this programming language today lmao
https://github.com/fergusq/tampio
it's funny af
i also remade the fricking binary language
but its for turing machines
and its made in javascript (turing machines are single threaded anyway)
lol
Teaching bad habits let’s go
well he didn't really make me comment those but I had no idea what to comment because the code is so damn self explanatory
and I had to comment something according to him
Comment the fact that you don’t need to comment
lmao
this makes me want to make the same thing but in russian
Im searching for BIOS interrupts and how to use them
And thats some rare ass info and you bet im not reading through the hell called intel documentation
don't accidentally install free ram in the process
Dont worry I dont usually need to download anything
All im doing is looking at the info
But these websites are old af
So the malware there might not even work on modern computers
its old for a reason
Ummm
My pc just froze
Had to cold reboot
Entered a grub terminal
When I try to boot something nothing happens
I should mention I opened a few efi boot files earlier
Anyone familiar with the problem?
No I was in windows
Ok well
After some messing around
Found my oses
Now just gotta find a way to boot em
booter corrupted
try to boot from a flash drive
which will replace the corrupted booter
I think I figured it out i just need to fix it
I usually boot from grub->kali bootloader which for.some reason grub isnt finding
I just need to manually find it and boot from it
If that doesn't work I will boot from a usb
Any coders online?
"Any coders online?" (refuses to elaborate)
I believe the term is asking to ask. Just ask the main question you need answered to begin with lol
Hello
Well you wouldn’t ask a question without raising your hand in school. It could also be seen as a sign of respect, asking permission to ask someone more knowledgeable then me a question.
It also could have been me just wanting a coder to talk to.
its discord
the last thing you will find here is respect
like all we know to do is to tell your mom jokes every 5 minutes
pft fr
IRL is different than the internet. All you need to do is ask the question here. If you want to talk to a coder just start talking, or respond to someone else's topic.
can I get two number nines, a number nine large, one with cheese, extra dip, number seven, two number forty fives, one with cheese and a large soda
are there any fast food workers here?
yo mom 😂 😂 😂 😭
dont even start with this
yea thats a part of the channel topic
ok well time to kill the channel then
good riddance
see you in a day or so
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this is absolutely nuts
saw it the other day and I dont think I posted it here
I've always want a coders since I have a few ideas to start ;I
nothing is preventing you from coding I suppose
so I want to be a world box mod makr but I hav no experience at all zi dont even know the coding language
Ur mom
Back at ya
Why anybody not make a game with java?
Well that is a hard question
mainly because
bigger game engines like unity and ue4 dont use it
but rather use c# and cpp
and also minecraft was written in java
or is I guess
Me and my friends started making an rts game in Unity with pretty much no prior experience
because it's fun
I enrolled in this game jam thing and it is hard but fun. It was the thing that helped me find my passion which is coding.
it becomes compkicated fast
a tip from a guy that have made a shit ton of unity game
the foundation is the most important thing
you fuck up the foundation
you fuck up everything
the problem is
its that you dont realize that you fucked up until its too late
everything just falls apart
so just learn the best practices and make the best foundation you can make before you start working on the game
That's why we're using a tutorial for foundation
Well mostly
one of my friends has coded for like 3 months and wants to do everything without the tutorial
so I have to constantly be checking his code won't fuck everything up
3 months
he will never do something the best way
but its a good learning experience
the problem with unity is that you get performance problems if you dont do things the best way
and that unity fucking breaks when there is an infinite loop
or atleast it used to
and that its sometimes buggy
I dont have alot of good memories of unity ngl
I using unity to make a game. It has been, so far, hard.
atleast you get readable exceptions and not qemu telling you
"triple fault. Cause? Fuck you you dont deserve to know, have fun reading through every register on the fucking computer to find out"
good thing my kali bootloader got fucked up so I dont have to worry about that :)
I dont think you realize just how dangerous that sentence is
the entire chat could blow up again any minute
also
thinking of installing another linux distro
so if you got any suggestions you know what to do 👀
Was minecraft: Java Edition slow because it is written in Java? Or is because the game is based on voxels?
because java isn't a good language for it
because mostly they're like
half interpreted half compiled
and because java is external
and the performance is eh
C++ performs faster
than Java engine
its written in java
you literally need Java to run it
Yeah i know, but is that one of the reasons of the bad performance?
because microsoft
Exactly.
Thanks!
7u7
just like your mom
Nice.
becuase java is ass
c# is leagues better than java
java has a walled ecosystem
the only thing carrying java is minecraft
and some companies stuck at using java
What the best language for make a game without game engine?
I always have seen C++ used in that case.
C++ + OpenGL probably
pygame could also be usable
But if you actually want to make a playable game I'd just use a game engine
const string message = "Worldbox is cool!"
console.log(message)
System.out.println("Hi");
do people actually make things with pygame?
last time i checked that shit was only good for basic stuff
Just like java
C++
or
rust 
i fucking love rust but
it feels like
if you want to do something
you're gonna do it from scratch
Rust 🤝
because there arent that many libs or, as rust calls them, crates
actually thats a lie
you can do web backends with rust
Best way to do it anyway
bot backends
ASP.NET is the most popular option for backends these days
and its one of the best
super scalable unlike python and js frameworks which get very janky when you scale them up a lot
and the language is not as locking as things like GO and rust which lets you make designs that are good for development not only for production
also very fast
^^^^^✓✓✓
Considering everyone is advertising their language at this point I might as well join in
Use C if you want to have actual access to your pc and not just "unsafe code"
And remember how fucking stupid classes and namespaces are? Its got you covered because it doesn't have them
#coders-language-advertisment-channel
:d
ok

its like C++ but remove classes
which makes it faster but also harder and bloatier to write big code
structs are just downgraded classes
Yeah, but make it harder
ehh not really
makes it easier actually
yes its easier to write bad code too
so for a virgin haydot its hard to use OOP because he is too lazy to learn best habits
for chad hamza its easy to use OOP because he learns all the good habits and use them
That but with 200% more fat and 75% less muscle.
That's the real hamza.
so you're dead?
maybe
no.
Fuck classes
Even when I use cpp I never use classes
They are hell
The only thing I use in cpp that isnt in c are namespaces
And I dont even need to use them so they are useless for me
and why is it so bad

Because it's transmitted via anti-virginism.
Bro who said I was arguing?
you were disagreeing with my points
I never entered this conversation with the intention of an argument I just wanted to have a bit of fun.
Otherwise I would've pointed out an actually good point.
its called an argument
I wasn't planning on backing it up.
doesnt make it not an argument
It was meant to be a one-off one-liner.
That's crazy.
I never meant for an intellectual argument, if you want that, then just say it.
Otherwise I'll continue to joke around because it's my default.
Nah it's worth it.
nothing you say will go through his brain
when you are trying to have a real talk he trolls when you are trolling he tries to be smart
well go ahead then
@orchid frigate xd
hopefully you manage to get something out of it
What is the best coding language in your opinion?
game dev: c#
anything low level: C/C++
frontend: No idea
backend: No idea
hamza singlehandedly ruins this entire channel

Yes, like always...

Can't do much with trolls :berk:
Yeah
I just read messages
Also also, There's a amazing Text to image demo available!
Yeah! It's not perfect but it's definitely can generate images
like
A watercolor painting of a crystal skull filled with flowers (Laion GLIDE)
Watermarks are common because of the training data,but all images are generated
yeah this is awesome
Yeah!
The person Finetuned the model,Is in discord and I know them,quite a nice person
If we get more compute we can probably scale this
but in the cost of sanity
Minor project or just messing around: Python (It's easy)
Readability: Python (It's basically different English)
Frontend: JavaScript (because it's the only option)
Backend: C++ (Fast)
Game dev: C# (Easy, simple, effective), C++ (Fast)
Low level: C/C++ (It doesn't matter which here they both serve the same purpose her), Assembly (Become one with the machine)
Challenge: Brainfuck
C++ has three different optimal situations so the winner is Brainfuck.
Brainfuck is just the greatest option here; it's turing-complete, it's almost a turing machine actually, it's simplistic, I could make a compiler for it if I had the time.
No variables, just loops and math and pointer manipulation.
Just arrows.
Can you make a game with brainfuck
Lua
It's simple
Infinite loop
While true do
[command line here]
end
isnt lua made by a priest
lua is made by a bad person
Assembly :))))
since when js is the only option for frontend
you havent been to onion sites
no one uses js there
wasm is way faster and way better than js
unless js get a compiler and becomes wasm too 
Can you?
I forgot about wasm
Besides that Typescript is just JS but with extra steps.
That's interesting. Any idea why?
safety
Makes sense.
everything is possible with any programming language
Yeah but does Brainfuck even allow input?
you could probably make it allow input if ran in correct environment
I started believing that when someone found a way to load a python kernel
I don't the language has a way to do that.
I know there's output but I don't think it takes input.
It might.
w0t
write a dotnet framework kernel and c# will run on it

Jesus fucking christ
coding in uefi
is hell
literally everyone line you write has the chance to bug for no reason what so ever
User reported to the proper authorities!
@violet glade please do not report if you are not sure. Better ping one moderator. If you will do a false report one more time I will warn you.
First of all
code what
I could tell you to learn some random language but you should know what you wanna do before you do it
I wanna know how to make a game on steam
huh
no doubt
ok
learn unity with c#
This is one of the best recourses to learn C# which is language very commonly used for game development
ok
when you know basics of C# I can give more materials for unity
sure
now lets play a game of which fucking function call causes the program to halt featuring efi
Aight you know what
Fuck efi
Im doing some graphics stuff because efi is making me go insane
and the cycle repeats
I want to ignore your message but I also wanna remind you that 80% of this chat hates you
You very well know what you said and very well know why it triggered me
pointing it out doesnt make me care
Are you my dad to be scared for my future
I just wanna do something I like not be the 10millionth web dev
am i stopping you ?
Im going to stop talking here before both of us get hurt

I recently saw a book about coding python, and the front cover has a snake that isn't even a stupid python.
traiteditor
Hamza's cool wdym
hamza sucks
imo
i blocked him
few days ago
by days i mean
month
he always makes yo mama joke
and having C# superiority complex
interesting when did OpenAI push out GLIDE
OpenAI pushed an unfiltered GLIDE model when the paper is released+A repo
Finetuning/Training code was created by the people in Opensource communities
interesting I've been loosely keeping up with diffusion and vgan+clip and such
Yeahh
got any recommended text generation models?
I used some GPT-Neo recently and it was pretty neat how easy it was to setup and train
haha yeah if I had like 20 more graphics cards to run that
Yeah
I supposed you can try fairseq LM
From MetaAI+with weights available
neat, I had an idea I tested with the lowest gpt-neo which was to generate game suggestions based off of #💡game-suggestions
gave it around 20k text lines of suggestions
Interesting!
a new power called “Boat Race”. It’s a race of boats that will be used by the kingdoms of the Kingdom. They will have a maximum of 2 boats per kingdom, and can be built with a single boat
I probably need to get more data as well as train longer
yes its pretty amazing how consistent it is
Just promt it well to be honest
Something something
Yeah prompting a game suggestion is a little tough
`Give Game suggestions for a god like simulation pixel art game that has 4 races(Humans,Orcs,Elves, Dwarf's) that Create their own civilization and fight for survival.
- <suggestion>
- <suggestion>
3.`
one of the cool things is it picked up on peoples numbering and dashes occasionally so it'd list some things
yeah!
probably more samples then feed it to model
And pick high quality samples
Give Game suggestions for a god like simulation pixel art game that has 4 races(Humans,Orcs,Elves, Dwarf's) that Create their own civilization and fight for survival.
1. A God should be able to create worlds and civilizations with his/her followers.
2. The player can pick race and then build up their city or empire by gathering resources and researching new technologies.
3. Each race has different specialities where they excel at what they do best. (Example: Humans are strong but weak against fire magic; Orcs are strong but have low intelligence so they aren't good in battle;
4. There should be a strong enemy threat that the player must face to continue the quest or advance your civilization.
5. You can trade with other players and alliances can form between different races.
novel ai is pretty amazing
Yeah something like that
and you can go to advanced settings and use repetition penalty if results gets to repetitive
omniously repeating:
"death is the only way. death is the only way. death is the only way. death is the only way. death is the only way. "
The default model you're using is 13B fairseq Finetuned really well on Novels, stories and etc.
they have a amazing Finetuning team
Also you can probably write a better promt than me,im just lazy and write what I can think
but seems to work
my favorite part of these ai image from text is the sheer amount of things you can mash together
I'd say these are quite good
Yeah!
hopefully this us self advertising
but here's some of my works
The voice of the sea while an angel spin on top of it and while rhythm of watches being patiently drench (Laion GLIDE) (CLIP ViT-B/16+VQGAN COCO) (ruReal-Ersgan) https://t.co/1TDQGWWCvQ
the more words the better it is
I'll stop spamming chat with them but
Graveyard covered in fog dimmly lit by a few lanterns in the style of Surrealism
yeah!
i've always prefered RL
i just put the same AI vs itself in a game
watch it learn
idk why i like this
Easy way to destroy friendships:
- play LoL with them
- Ragequit and go do Unity project with them
arguing is guaranteed
Lol
i mean making unity game isnt the best thing for begineers
I just started coding
On java script
But i found out, im stupud as f**k.
So i would go for just Java instead
@wet girder this is a base of a game (with some extra non base stuff) in unity
resident pooler in chat
bruh
if you dont use a pool
you just trashing your performance
pooling is the best
kek
being hard doesnt mean impossible

nah its straightfoward, but you'll improve how good the result is over time
that said you do have to design literally everything that functions
tbh
Im yet dumb, so idk what language of coding to start eith
rendering?
everything else i do on my own
What's the easiest coding language for mobile guys?
putting sprites on the screen
Ay i just leveled up
mobile games?
I have an app "sololearn"
do not recommend
Really?
but ask rei
Why?
Java is worse lo
@next lotus yes
reading one line
and answering without knowing the context
and xamarin is shit
use flutter
and dart
dart is basically C#
flutter is a good framework
at this point java is the one copying C#
C# comes with new things then java two updates later is copying them
This chat will forever be
Literally just language/hobby wars
So I might as well join in
C/cpp best rust is incredibly good c# bad os dev for life
thank you for providing your opinion
Np glad to give it
i agree
maui is honestly
shit too
avalonia looks pretty promising
did I'm the only one use custom code final?
cause it's really easy to create game
you can create ball object and ground like this.
(CreateBall)
(CreateGround) Groundsize: Infinite (Flat)
A
He's not cool when you're partaking in conversation but when you just observe like I do then he's funny.
~traiteditor
Sending trait guide to DMs!
I’m not even much of a coder and I fully agree with that.
~traiteditor
Sending trait guide to DMs!
Sending trait guide to DMs!
~traiteditor
Sending trait guide to DMs!
gaming
This isn't the trait editor channel lol
you should probably download more braincells first
and then you can read the channel description

If they make it a feature it's possible but for now it's not
this chat has lost all meaning
at this point its just a c# cult gathering and a trait editor channel
hail c#
is it ok if i learn java to learn C# easier
please dont hurt me C# cult 🙏 🙏
i will take that as a yes
~traiteditor
Sending trait guide to DMs!
no
just learn c# directly
c# is easier than java
What make you like c#?
before i was glorious c# developer i was a lowly visual basic scum
then i wrote my first line
it was Process.GetCurrentProcess().Kill
that moment i realized
c# is the messiah
i them decided to only ever write c# in my entire life
ever since then i never got outside
my family abandoned me
but my dedication to c#will never cease
I bet every c# warshipper has not tried any other language for more than a day
or they chose the worst language to try before that
oh holy coders, masters of the realm, what doth thou use to edit the game's code?
made a vpn in java, a couple of webservers in node, some projects in python and holy shit it felt like heaven writing c# code again
you are just more used to c#
im not used to c# lmao its just easier
java doesnt have linq, async await among many other things
dont use javascript 
actually code and not just read stuff
java script ghey
too much things to type
i think coding in c# need more things to type than js
so you just insulted the c# cult
apologize before they come for you
js pretty much needs more things to type
their face should be smooth af after staring 24/7 at a monitor
some games EULA says to not do so but WorldBox is not one of them and openly encourages modding
oki
Have you ever used c/cpp?
I recommend C because of how simple it is
The only reason why I actively hate c# is because of this c# cult here
If I see anyone else warshipping c# I would actually make a C cult
Alright thats it
Im fucking done
C cult active
Learn C
Now
I probably program in a different language every day
learn pointers to hurt your brain
I use like 5 different languages in a single project yet I have yet to advertise them at all
We are all talking about programming languages
But now get ready for
The best one
that's a nice string you got there
MAKEFILES
nah it's a pointer to a char array
Omg makefiles are
The best thing ever
Makefiles are the files made by the gods themselves
haydot complaining about cults while making cults
Im making my own cult fuck it im not listening to another second of the c# cults without fighting
I declare a war on the c# cult
Why tho
Like you haven't tried
Any other languages
Other than maybe python
And I know that for a fact because I told you to learn c# when you first started
It may be but please
C?
Non OOP?
Rust?
Non OOP version of cpp
Its like one of the first programming languages
Same thing as c++
Just less complicated and simpler
And rust
I highly recommend rust
Its oop but I eh
Its one of the good oops
Try these out
And then come to such insane conclusions like cults
Ok well
We lost him
Time to block
I can already see his message
"dont try these they are bad c# best"
"dont listen to stupid haydot"
Eh
He is cool
You can ask him
Idk if he got alot of experience in rust tho
Ye
i am learning C# while using javascript because i am still learning C# and not ready to use it yet
i am playing boths sides so i can always come up on top 
I dunno. I haven't done any low level stuff
rust
Rust isnt low level
I've heard good things about both
you dont need low level
and rust gives low level control (i think)
In my opinion
Not really
a little bit
Low level knowledge is useful and/or needed for stuff like OS development and hacking
but what if i dont want to hack or make OS
if i want to test my code for security vulnerability i can post the source code on github and we get FREE LABOUR!!!!
free labour
assembly
That would be a BIOS bootloader
And maybe a kernel if you are insane enough
kernel made out of assembly
Pretty much anything
not be rusty
From low level like a kernel (yes its possible and done) to high level like game or web dev
Rust has something for everyone
But is incredibly difficult to learn
he doesnt even know about kernel
Basically the program that runs the OS
You can make a kernel with ada
Or gnu assembly
If you are on arm arm assembly
doesnt exist
actually
C-- could just be assembly
as its C with less features
like no variables and literally just registers
YES
finally another low level dev to appear
I have been waiting for months
goddamnit
I got bamboozled
ah ok
if you need anything just ping me I would gladly help :)
i did, but i like to be babysitted by c# 
how is it going
i hate how this channel turned out into a cult war
My new chrome book can run Linux command line
So again, what's wrong with Lua
does anyone have a simple gui for version 0.13.5?
pls send me the file
EVERYTHING
there's a channel called #🔧modding-talk maybe you should ask there?

