#⌨coders-cave

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orchid frigate
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Yea like a broken over overcomplicated physics engine

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Its hardly custamizable

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And costs a shit ton of money

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To not have a stupid watermark at the start

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Plus when creating your own engine

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You understand how things work way better

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Its hard but its worth it

barren shale
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Haydot is trying to say that he doesn't know how to use unity properly

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No its like ur mum

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ENORMOUS

quiet river
orchid frigate
barren shale
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power abuse

silk oriole
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i mean u aren’t wrong

barren shale
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iam never wrong

tropic dagger
barren shale
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Im funiest

tropic dagger
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Indeed.

knotty root
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If else

main brook
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i made an async sqlite3 wrapper

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that also support connection pool

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due to its design made to not have race condition

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and doesn't use threads

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but probably should

knotty root
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neard

wet girder
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I'm pretty sure nerd is considered more as a compliment in this room

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I mean cave

main brook
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correct daddy jupe

barren shale
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nerd should be a compliment everywhere

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why would anyone hate being smart

main brook
wet girder
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yeah

orchid frigate
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Im pretty much neutral to the word and thus never reply when someone calls me that

barren shale
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why would anyone call you a nerd anyways

orchid frigate
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Because...idk

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I press buttons and see shiny rectangles on screen

wet girder
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I've gotten called a nerd in school a shit ton because no one else in my class seems to have ever coded

main brook
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same

worldly pumice
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hi

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how are u

orchid heart
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so much problem

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to make a mod system for worldbox mobile

knotty root
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whos nerd the man who make good game like Steve Jobs

keen shell
tropic dagger
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Yeah pretty much.

main brook
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yes

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but like

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if there's a generalized version

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for mods

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like a .wbmod

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extension file

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and you can just put it on the game

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like a plugin

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and the web are literally community handled one

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(we don't take any responsibility if your game broke because you installed a shady mod)

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also

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i finished making this yesterday

tropic dagger
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Mobile would have to copy/paste files.

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Google and Apple not like.

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  • it's mobile so everything is 10x harder because bad UI.
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Official marketplace would be easier to use.

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  • it would allow mobile to buy premium if they're smart with it.
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It would also allow PC to have much easier to install mods as well.

crisp hawk
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if i want program c# , what is ther better editor code ¿visual studio code or intellij IDEA

tropic dagger
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It just depends really.

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I know VS does full syntax highlighting.

wet girder
tropic dagger
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But intelliJ does too probably.

wet girder
crisp hawk
tropic dagger
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In the installer.

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Or whatever it's called.

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I don't have access to my PC rn so I can't send pictures.

crisp hawk
tropic dagger
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Ight.

silk oriole
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just made my first discord bot

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in python

wet girder
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Cool! What can it do?

grand scarab
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what error is it? This is what happened when I was editing the age value.

sick belfry
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we're tryingto edit units by decoding the file

wet girder
wet girder
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what did you do to it? Just add traits?

sick belfry
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he edited the units age

wet girder
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ah

sick belfry
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traits are by your editor, not by hand

wet girder
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what did you edit with?

sick belfry
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quick edit

barren shale
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With the editor

sick belfry
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txt editor

wet girder
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or use some premade one

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I coded one myself with @bitter sedge

sick belfry
wet girder
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ah, how did you encode it?

sick belfry
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he did

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and the error happened

wet girder
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I need to know the encoding process used to help

sick belfry
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amp

wet girder
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ohh wait yeah, amp can decode and encode. I completely forgot

sick belfry
wet girder
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can I have the decoded file?

grand scarab
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I think this

wet girder
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time to pull out the good old json formatter and debug this

wet girder
grand scarab
wet girder
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if no, none of this makes any sense

trail ocean
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nice

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koreans made another things

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can I grab some popcorn here

wet girder
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oh fuck, I just realised one thing. What version was this map made in?

trail ocean
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Since he might using mobile, the recent one I bet

grand scarab
# grand scarab

Isn't this the file in question? sorry i think i sent it wrong

wet girder
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it seems to be

wet girder
trail ocean
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lol

grand scarab
wet girder
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I think this might be bug in worldbox

trail ocean
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@grand scarab Check your version

grand scarab
trail ocean
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Is it 0.9.7 or anything

grand scarab
trail ocean
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Brita

wet girder
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I just need to know the version

grand scarab
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0.97

trail ocean
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Ah yea 0.9.7

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Finally

wet girder
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okay, this is a bug I believe. I am going to talk with mastef and get back to you

trail ocean
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nice

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good job jupe for figure out this

grand scarab
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👍

trail ocean
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:D

orchid heart
tropic dagger
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Normally I can read stuff like that but I have a headache.

main brook
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reminds me an idea though

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what if worldbox have this

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"Plugin Installer"

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or basically

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when you open a .wbmod file

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it'll work on Worldbox

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and then it automatically install it

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similar to how minecraft did it

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(on bedrock edition as far as i know)

tropic dagger
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Bedrock edition uses json in a very specific directory.

main brook
wet girder
main brook
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ah nice

wet girder
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only on PC atm tho

main brook
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nuu

wet girder
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Holy shit. I get Visual Studio Enterprise 2019, any windows version I want, .com domains and lots more from azure for free for being in this school

barren shale
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:o

tropic dagger
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What school @wet girder?

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Wait, don't answer that.

main brook
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holy shit

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that's

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meh

tropic dagger
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You have commit the oof.

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Read again.

main brook
tropic dagger
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He can get Windows 11.

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More bloat ware

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Also he can go backwards.

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Less bloat ware

main brook
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Less feature too

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Normal people: I'll choose windows 11
Literally programmer: Which linux flavour should i install today

wet girder
main brook
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guess what nerds

bold rover
main brook
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i know

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look at this

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i have 3 cool distros

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in exchange for a game i never played

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700mb is alot

main brook
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i use msdos

barren shale
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never had a problem programming in windows

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but had a lot programming in linux

orchid frigate
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You know what fuck opengl

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I wanna learn vulkan

barren shale
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XD

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XDDDDD

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XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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ironic

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isnt it

tropic dagger
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The irony.

orchid frigate
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Irony...Metal?

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Metal is a low-level, low-overhead hardware-accelerated 3D graphic and compute shader API created by Apple. It debuted in iOS 8. Metal combines functions similar to OpenGL and OpenCL in one API. It is intended to improve performance by offering low-level access to the GPU hardware for apps on iOS, iPadOS, macOS, and tvOS. It can be compared to l...

tropic dagger
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Bruh.

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Funny.

orchid heart
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How can I build a CSS without visual studio

main brook
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that

orchid heart
main brook
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doesn't make sense

orchid heart
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Yes

main brook
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CSS is not a program-

orchid heart
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though

main brook
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its just

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a normal text

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its a Stylesheet

orchid heart
orchid heart
unique torrent
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ar

tropic dagger
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You should just use VS for C#.

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But otherwise, Google is a much better informant than we could ever be.

orchid heart
elder shore
wary patio
wet girder
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nothing else needs to be said than, holy shit

tropic dagger
bold rover
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That's insane for a single gameWowPika

wet girder
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AND THEY ONLY GIVE DEVS LIKE 15%

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for their own fucking creation

main brook
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that's what we call

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society

orchid heart
hoary hound
# wet girder https://youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ

Saw that video yesterday, yeah I've always knew it was this way, but roblox is pretty good at making game development seem "easy" and "accessible", and when you eventually make your own game, you come to meet the hard truth that it had never been easy in the first place.

keen hull
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void SpawnObjectAtRandom(){
        Vector3 randomPosX = Random.Range(-400f,350f);
        Vector3 randomPosY = Random.Range(-280f,230f);

        Instantiate(ItemPrefab, randomPos, Quaternion.identity);
    }
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why does this not work

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C#

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anyone know

hasty bane
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never thought it was that bad

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like yeah there's competition

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but that's just wbfacepalm

bold rover
tepid lark
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My Cpu was running at less the a ghz

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Amazing performance

wet girder
hasty bane
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welcome to new technology

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it'll be regulated

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in uhh

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a few decades

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lel

wet girder
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These things are why I want to get a PhD in cyber security. If I'll go online saying that stuff like this should be stopped and did real effort to stop it with this PhD, I'd most definitely have bigger possibilities than just random hacker of internet personality

bold rover
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Kinda sick to be honest

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That large of wealth being Generated by a single game and Barely is being givin back to the Creators

wet girder
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Thing is that they're not legally obligated to continue because they're publico traded. Only way it's gonna stop is through lawsuits or new regulations

barren shale
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RandomPosX and RandomPosY should be floats and not vectors

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Then you should have a vector called RandomPos which has an X value of randomPosX and an Y value of randomPosY

main brook
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spent 1 hour

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to make this

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jk

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i made this in 10m

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because i already have the css

barren shale
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Bruh

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10m is still long for two sentences

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Not even two

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Rei slow

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Cuz doesn’t use C#

orchid frigate
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Alright so news

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I promised a random reddit dude that im going to make him a 3d stardew valley like game with triple A graphics in a few years in vulkan

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So i guess i gotta do that now lol

barren shale
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Oh haydot

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Why would you lie to strange on the internet

orchid frigate
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I dont lie

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I want that game too

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You see i dont make games for others to enjoy playing

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I make games for me to enjoy playing

bold rover
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But honest goodluck,Wish everything's goes well

orchid frigate
orchid frigate
barren shale
bold rover
barren shale
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Just fill the empty space with whatever you want

orchid frigate
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Why havent i blocked you yet and why will i not block you now Thonk

barren shale
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Cuz I’m speaking the truth

orchid frigate
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No

barren shale
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Yeah

orchid frigate
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Vulkan has way less compile timr errors

barren shale
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You mean it’s easier to start with

orchid frigate
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No

barren shale
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Yeah

orchid frigate
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Its way harder tgen openGL

barren shale
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Do you have a rectangle?

orchid frigate
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Im out

barren shale
orchid frigate
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You are bullying me and i do not like it

barren shale
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I’m speaking facts

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Even if they hurt

orchid frigate
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And now i will leave this fine establishment

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With both anger and sadness

barren shale
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Okeh

orchid frigate
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Goodbye

barren shale
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See you in two months

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When you actually have a rectangle

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With 2 FPS

barren shale
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Np

bold rover
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Nothing related to programming?

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Jupe :v

wet girder
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@knotty root keep it in context for this channel

barren shale
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Your mum fat channel

knotty root
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Who

static radish
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when it releases on steam will mods be allowed?

barren shale
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i want you banned so bad

static radish
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Why

barren shale
static radish
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Oh sorry

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I didn’t see that channel

wet girder
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@barren shale Just be nice

wet girder
barren shale
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nicen't

wet girder
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next time it won't be only verbal so better be nice aye

main brook
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heyo

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im back

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i also made like

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4 helper packages

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  1. a HTTP session manager
  2. Key and Value storage wrapper
  3. css components
  4. advanced configured discord bot
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time to upload all of this to github

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probably the first 2

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the last 2 is more of a specific project

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not for globally adaptive

main brook
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im gonna make a Redis HTTP session

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and memcached

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im also gonna make it faster

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maybe

bold rover
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Congrats Rei :v

main brook
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i learned Pub/Sub

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now time for my discord bootleg

glad forum
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t6hfc87ieomgjmz4.onion

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I dare yall to run this in TOR

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Actually

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I take that back

wary orchid
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that's sus bro

glad forum
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If you do itlls ISP doxx you then you get swatted

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or you get an error message

tropic dagger
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Oof

knotty root
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Sup

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I need help

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How get started in modding and stuff

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Any tutorials that are more helpful than others?

tropic dagger
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But not all tutorial are built equally.

knotty root
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And coding and stuff

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Yuh

tropic dagger
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Ight.

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Look up the language you want to use and look for official documentation.

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Spend time practicing and stick with one language for a while.

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So you learn general concepts and stuff.

barren shale
glad forum
barren shale
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I don’t think swat teams exist in Syria

unkempt shell
main brook
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plus

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i don't think tor is gonna track you

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isn't the purpose of TOR is to be more encrypted

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like you can't even know who is who

hasty bane
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can still get caught

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i forgot how though
i think it's something about nodes

main brook
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nodes?

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as in what nodes

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graph data?

main brook
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billy

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mommy is not in the mood for this right now

hasty bane
main brook
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ah

mint quail
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noob

lucid rain
# main brook i don't think tor is gonna track you

The third layer (node) of TOR is the last one and haves all the info decrypted, govs have powerful servers set up as TOR servers and with that it can compromise your data but no personal info bout ya so be more careful with searching or use VPN over tor so the VPN server gonna decrypt it. Yeah, VPN's log all the stuff but u can set up a VPN server of yours

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But no worrys if u r not sellin some stuff in there u r fine 99%

lucid rain
lucid rain
hasty bane
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ty

lucid rain
hasty bane
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tbh im thinking about moving to i2p

lucid rain
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@hasty bane no need in that. Less stuff 2 find and slower, so meh. Well ofc if u r hidin then u should get rid of discord, VK, etc etc. But eh

hasty bane
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I don't use social media besides discord

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buuut

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yeah good point

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esp considering how i need tor for selenium stuff

wet girder
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I was supposed to do project to learn OOP in school and found myself learning Tuples

bold rover
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Pretty butterfly

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Also good luck learning tuples

main brook
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Tuples are fun

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in some language like python

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its common

barren shale
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so youre fine

hasty bane
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sadly I won't be able to ignore cringe oop because I'll be coming back to unity

barren shale
wet girder
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OOP is actually not that bad. I used to really hate it but it's quite nice

wet girder
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My school has kinda forced me to learn OOP best practices and damn it has helped

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I can write decent OOP code pretty easily because of the practice with it

hasty bane
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i can write oop code. not decent tho :d

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our schools don't reeeally teach programming

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some basics

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like I've taken this year's exams already (from a website) and i passed with fairly high scores

wet girder
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I'm working on 2 degrees, High school degree and software development degree through vocational school. The software developer is so easy for me that after a month the teacher has already said I'll most likely be able to skip rest of the first year and go straight to second year studies because my programming knowledge is bigger than what we're taught the first year

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If it's gonna go like this I'm gonna be able to do full 3 years of high school and about 1.5-2 years of vocational school which means I'll have the last and hardest year completely about high school

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which is fuckin amazing

barren shale
barren shale
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rip me i guess

tropic dagger
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Say goodbye.

bold rover
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Really Inspiring jupewblove

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(Not for me, Probably for other people reading it)

hasty bane
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it is pretty inspiring

main brook
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with boilerplate code

hasty bane
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based

mental jacinth
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Where is haydot

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What happened to him

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🥶 🥶

unique torrent
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My first year in it

wet girder
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my teacher is putting me to second year after one month of my first year

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lol

unique torrent
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Lol

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My teacher wants me to be in like a top class

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But its python 😂

wet girder
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we have beginner courses the first year and I am definetly not a beginner so he's just putting me to next years classes

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python is good for certain stuff but I still don't really like it that much anumore

unique torrent
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Anything can be done with python

wet girder
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well most things are better done in other languages

unique torrent
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Language

wet girder
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C# mostly

unique torrent
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Damn i wanna learn that

wet girder
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I maintain @bitter sedge too and it is in Python. But I really don't like discord.py

unique torrent
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Yeah

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Its just

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Weird

wet girder
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it isn't that weird after you get used to it but it's hard to write clean code with it. Even like discord.net feels better to write

unique torrent
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I heard games with unity use c#

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Is that true?

mental jacinth
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Haydot

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Do you have m2.mid ?

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I accidentally deleted it

barren shale
mental jacinth
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Is haydot alive ?

barren shale
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No he died trying to become actually decent at coding

mental jacinth
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Bruh

barren shale
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He died a trash coder

mental jacinth
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Now how do I find m2.mid

barren shale
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Never reached his goals

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Google

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Wtf is m2.mid anyways

mental jacinth
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Yeet

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Found it

barren shale
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I found it too

mental jacinth
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Yes

barren shale
mental jacinth
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How does it sound

barren shale
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Loud

mental jacinth
barren shale
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Uhh

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Idk

mental jacinth
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Just play the song

unique torrent
mental jacinth
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No

unique torrent
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damn

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ok

mental jacinth
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Its hard

unique torrent
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on a scale of 1-10, how difficult

mental jacinth
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7.5

unique torrent
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easy enough for me

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i like challenges

barren shale
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At least for me

barren shale
mental jacinth
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Python - 3
Java - 8
Rust - 10
C# - 7.5
C++ - 7
Lua - 6

unique torrent
barren shale
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What

mental jacinth
unique torrent
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lua is easier than being born

barren shale
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C++ is way harder than C#

mental jacinth
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I never tried lua

unique torrent
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lua is english

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but

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weirder

mental jacinth
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Python is also English

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But weirder

barren shale
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If you want help with C# tell me

unique torrent
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lua is easier than python

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trust me

mental jacinth
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Ok imma go and watch

barren shale
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C# easy and good and best

unique torrent
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teach me the basics then

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xd

barren shale
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Ok so the basics

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Go watch a YouTube video

unique torrent
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thanks

barren shale
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I’m not here to teach you

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I don’t have time

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Only help

unique torrent
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i said xd

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for a reason

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i was joking

barren shale
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And I’m very bad at teaching

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You don’t want me as a teacher

unique torrent
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i mean

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id take anyone

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as a teacher

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tbh

barren shale
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Someone I taught C# got banned

unique torrent
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got bannned from what

barren shale
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From this server

unique torrent
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why

barren shale
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Cuz I taught him C#

unique torrent
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what

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that doesnt make sense

barren shale
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It does

unique torrent
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were you that bad

barren shale
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Yes

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Maybe even worse

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The problem is

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Since C# has garbage collection

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Making bad code is really easy

unique torrent
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xd

barren shale
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After you get a bit advanced into the language

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Start watching nick chapsas on YouTube

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He makes good videos on how to make your code faster and cleaner

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Helps a lot with performance

unique torrent
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do u make unity games

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?

barren shale
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I do

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I can help with that too

unique torrent
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what kind of games u made

barren shale
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All the kinds

unique torrent
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fps?

barren shale
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Nah

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Mainly 2D

unique torrent
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2d fps?

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wait

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me dumb

barren shale
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Yeah

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Haydot 2.0

unique torrent
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whats haydot

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2.0

barren shale
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Haydot is dumb

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He is the master of dum dum

unique torrent
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is a person?

barren shale
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Yes

unique torrent
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K

wet girder
unique torrent
wet girder
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Fuck no, Lua is a mess in every way. It has nothing easy in it

barren shale
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It’s the best

unique torrent
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its a mess, but its easy

barren shale
wet girder
unique torrent
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i think hamza here likes C#

wet girder
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C# is quite nice but I don't like it as much as C++

barren shale
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C++ bad language

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C# best language

unique torrent
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whats the difference between C# and C++

barren shale
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C# is good and C++ is bad

unique torrent
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is that the only difference?

wet girder
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C++ is lower level

barren shale
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That’s not one difference but a lot

barren shale
wet girder
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it doesn't yes

barren shale
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It means you have to do a lot more

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Making it worse

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Bad lanagyageheiqnwn

wet girder
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but it makes it more custom

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or some other word that makes more sense

barren shale
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You can do low level programming in C#

wet girder
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I just like to type C++ more than C#

lucid rain
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Well the best part of c# is that it has dynamic and static typing discipline, but c++ haves only static. BUT c++ isnt bad. They both are easy and its just what u wanna do with em makes em good or bad

lucid rain
barren shale
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Never use dynamic types in C#

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Don’t even talk about it

lucid rain
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Bruh

barren shale
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It’s the worst thing that came to C#

lucid rain
main brook
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i came back

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with more knowledge

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websocket[refined], tcp packet chunking, svelte, tailwind

bold rover
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That's lovely reiwblove

main brook
barren shale
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Sounds unefficient

tropic dagger
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As soon as you move from basic I/O and variables/functions it starts to just skyrocket in difficulty.

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Classes will be easy if you already know OOP.

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But C++ has too much and it's low-level.

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So if there isn't something already in the std namespace for what you want to do, good luck.

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But if you can figure it out, it's extremely fast and extremely powerful.

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It's used a lot to make games and things that need high performance.

lucid rain
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@tropic dagger c++ is easy IMO. Not as python and stuff like that but not hard. There are just things that seems like they are hard, because many people did not invest time on it to learn, or has very little documentation etc. so it seems to be hard. But c++ haves a lot of people who can help ya. What u cant say about ASM or Haskell. People are just lazy and want to go fast. But when something goes slow they think its hard, in fact its not.

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And as I said its IMO

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Maybe it is hard for some maybe not

main brook
#

the old way would be

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receive all

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until

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something like

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receive exactly X bytes

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and if the bytes isn't exact

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then its probably the end of the stream

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or use a end byte

tropic dagger
#

Just look up "template metaprogramming" and tell me with a straight face that it's easy.

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  • C++ being low level makes it much more difficult. Memory leaks and segfaults are very annoying and can be hard to deal with.
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Some the syntax is just not okay.

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int(x); creates a variable named x, it doesn't cast x to int, even though it looks like it should.

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Although, if you're having an easy time with C++, then good job.

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Even if you're using the very basic features of the language.

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You are right about the size of the community around a language being important.

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And you are right about assembly being a very difficult language (family) without much community support for new programmers.

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Kinda why I didn't learn more of it.

hasty bane
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C :DDDD

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also

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why would you do anything in assembly

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isn't it super long

wet girder
#

It's useless for most people. I'm personally intrigued about Assembly code because it lets me do very low level programming

barren shale
#

Assembly is used to make low level programming languages

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No one actually uses assembly to make anything

main brook
#

everyone ask how does assembly works

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but nobody ask how is assembly working

barren shale
#

Wait what

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These are the same question

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Phrased differently

bold rover
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Do You guys Think If we Put a learning neural network in one of WorldBox Agents with one simple Rule And rewards them (Don't Die And Stay Alive for longer) It can work?

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(I mean there's other Promblems That The Worldbox Agents Wouldn't know from The beginning and They just die over and over again without learning anything,So implement Some Existing Function, Farming , Berry picking , Punching things Etc.)

barren shale
#

WorldBox isn’t the type of game for this sort of things

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And having a neural network learn about more than one thing in a video game takes billion of steps

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Which takes week on huge computers

bold rover
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Yeah I know

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Would just be interesting

barren shale
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Yea but sadly we won’t be able to make progress

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With weak PCs

bold rover
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True

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Pray Nvadia Gods for compute

barren shale
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Even snake game takes around a million of steps to actual start playing decently

bold rover
#

This would be Paper Worthy research

barren shale
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I’ve done it

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It started to get pretty decent

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But training on cpu is slow

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Took like 2 days to start playing fine

bold rover
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But it did work?

barren shale
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Yeah

bold rover
#

That's impressive

barren shale
#

It just needed more time to get better

bold rover
#

True

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Also Does The Sonic Speed Help With The Agents To be train faster?

barren shale
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Normally people don’t train with a maximum speed

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They just play the game as fast as possible

bold rover
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Hm

barren shale
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And they have more than one instance of the game

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To gather as much data as possible

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At least for reinforcement learning

bold rover
#

Data is definitely key,Just Getting them is hard

bold rover
#

For Reinforcement learning yeah

barren shale
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I don’t think you can train it on anything other than reinforcement learning

bold rover
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I mean,The player doesn't Control the Agent it self

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Doesn't the Agent Replicate The same thing in Game with 0 Changes if we're going to do RL?

barren shale
#

Here’s the code for the snake thing

bold rover
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Ow wow

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That's RL

barren shale
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Yeah

bold rover
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But most games That The player has 0 control like The DL OpenAI Hide'nSeek Agents

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Is differentThonk

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Also if you're thinking why im interested in ML/DL Agents in Worldbox,It just looks Fun

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The Game Like Godus is amazing and I love How The People Has "There own mind" (It's just scripts) looks so fun and interesting

barren shale
#

Having there own mind doesn’t have to be a neural network

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A behavior tree with a lot of parameters can work pretty good

bold rover
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I mean A Continues Learning Architecture Would be nice,But yeah Behavior tree can work

barren shale
#

this still breaks my brain

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how is this even C#

lucid rain
# hasty bane why would you do anything in assembly

ASM language is used primarily for direct hardware manipulation, access to specialized processor instructions, or to address critical performance issues. Typical uses are device drivers, low-level embedded systems, and real-time systems. ASM language is as close to the processor as you can get as a programmer so a well designed algorithm is blazing. ASM is great for speed optimization. It's all about performance and efficiency. ASM language gives you complete control over the system's resources. Much like an ASM line, you write code to push single values into registers, deal with memory addresses directly to retrieve values or pointers.

hasty bane
orchid frigate
# hasty bane why would you do anything in assembly

Currently learning assembly x86-64 cuz i wanna learn how the pc works and at some point, if im good enough, make a very simple os, and i would say its pretty important to know assembly if you wanna know how your pc works

hasty bane
#

i see

orchid frigate
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Also bios's are so fucking good like they do so much at booting

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I thought they just kinda look for the os and boot it but they actually provide some insanely cool tools that you can use

lucid rain
lucid rain
orchid frigate
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But assembly is, undoubtedly, thr hardest language i have attempted to learn

orchid frigate
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Like no kernel to support me

lucid rain
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Oh geez

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U gonna make TempleOS 2.0

orchid frigate
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I learned...kinsa learned rust

hasty bane
#

learn malbolge

orchid frigate
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Which is definitely harder then cpp so i have some experience with hard languages

orchid frigate
hasty bane
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yes

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malbolge based os

orchid frigate
orchid frigate
hasty bane
#

yes

lucid rain
orchid frigate
hasty bane
#

(=<`:9876Z4321UT.-Q+*)M'&%$H"!~}|Bzy?=|{z]KwZY44Eq0/{mlk**hKs_dG5[m_BA{?-Y;;Vb'rR5431M}/.zHGwEDCBA@98\6543W10/.R,+O<

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malbolge hello world

lucid rain
# lucid rain I can show ya hello world on BrainFuck

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++.+++++++..+++.------------------- --------------------------------------------- ---------------.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++.++++++++++++++++++ ++++++.+++.------.--------.------------------ --------------------------------------------- ----.-----------------------.

lucid rain
#

Yes

hasty bane
#

i wonder if you can write a virus in malbolge

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and how hard would it be to reverse engineer it

hasty bane
#

yeah pretty easy tbh

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watch me code the entirety of windows 10 in brainfuck

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++++++++++++.----.---.+++

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here

lucid rain
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Oh geez

orchid frigate
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You know what fuck it

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Os in malbolge

hasty bane
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let's goooooo

orchid frigate
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The thing is

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I cannt really like....use any other language other then assembly rn

hasty bane
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why

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brain rewired to only understand assembly?

orchid frigate
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As i dont have an os to have a compiler that compiles any language

hasty bane
#

ah

orchid frigate
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When you are creating an os you need 2 languages:
A low level language like assembly x86-64 or just x86

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And a high level for later usage like C, C++ or python even

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But those are for when yoy actually have a sorta working os

hasty bane
#

python os :DDDDD

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POS :DDDDDDD

orchid frigate
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But learning how the pc is actually really interesting, like how the bios finds the os file

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With the magic numbers

orchid frigate
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I choose c++ because i know it best so cppOS

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😔

hasty bane
#

cpPOS

orchid frigate
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Or how about

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cozyOS

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:)

hasty bane
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anyway

orchid frigate
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I always wanted to use cozy for something

hasty bane
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omw to learn internet shits

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tcp here i come :dddd

orchid frigate
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Frontend or backend

hasty bane
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i have no idea :D

orchid frigate
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Wdym like no idea what those are or no idea what you want to learn

hasty bane
#

no idea what i want to learn

orchid frigate
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Ah i feel you

hasty bane
#

lel

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i just know i want to learn smth cuz i haven't been improving recently

orchid frigate
#

Mu problem is the exact opposite
I want to learn everything

hasty bane
#

i will get my hands on them lambdas

orchid frigate
hasty bane
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iirc

orchid frigate
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I remember rust uses a shit ton of them

hasty bane
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lambdas look cool

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compacttm

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i want to use them already

orchid frigate
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They are used alot in match cases

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Trust me they are way more boring and hard to use in terms of writing them then they look

hasty bane
#

yes but compacttm

orchid frigate
#

Also look at what your average match statement has in rust

_ => (),
hasty bane
#

looks lame

orchid frigate
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I thought it looked cool 😔

hasty bane
#

:D

orchid frigate
hasty bane
#

yes

orchid frigate
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0xaa55

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I have a joke

hasty bane
#

i should write a discord bot in c#

orchid frigate
hasty bane
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why

orchid frigate
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Keep your sanity its hard

hasty bane
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hmmm

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k

orchid frigate
#

Way harder than i could have expected

hasty bane
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i'll just use python oop then

orchid frigate
#

My joke is

hasty bane
#

ye

orchid frigate
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I just say i have a joke to seem funny i dont actually have a joke

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Oh wait i have one

hasty bane
#

kek

orchid frigate
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Knock knock

hasty bane
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im still working on the discord bot rpg thing

hasty bane
orchid frigate
#

Assembly

hasty bane
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grabs gun

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get away from me

orchid frigate
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Wait no you were supposed to ask who

hasty bane
#

lel

hasty bane
orchid frigate
#

Assembly x86 is bad and sucks becaude bad 👍 👍

hasty bane
#

yeahhhh!

orchid frigate
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But assembly x64 now thats something else

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I have another joke

hasty bane
#

alright

orchid frigate
#

Hamza is gud programer guy person

hasty bane
#

🙏

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bamsed

orchid frigate
#

Wtf is bamsed hagrid

hasty bane
#

bamsed is bamsed

orchid frigate
#

Mayonnaise flavour?

hasty bane
#

yes

orchid frigate
#

Cool

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Also i just thought of the worst pick-up line ever

hasty bane
#

go ahead

orchid frigate
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"girl are you assembly, because you look as nice as x64"

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Anyone that tries this will get my respect for 5 years

hasty bane
orchid frigate
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Unless its hamza

hasty bane
#

hamza gets disrespect for -iforgotthemax32bitnumberpleasepretendiputithere years

orchid frigate
#

For int-64 i think its 2 billion and something

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Or thats 32...

hasty bane
#

that's 32

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64 is some really huge number

orchid frigate
#

And int 128 is giant

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Like huge

hasty bane
#

but why

#

why would you do 128

orchid frigate
#

Rust has it

hasty bane
#

WHY

orchid frigate
#

Lemme see

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In my mobile compiler

hasty bane
#

18446744073709551615

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is that not enough

orchid frigate
#

170141183460469231731687303715884105727

hasty bane
#

jbgahkgehagwejh why

orchid frigate
#

For i128

hasty bane
#

WHY

orchid frigate
#

Actually it has a use

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I need large numbers on a regular basis

hasty bane
#

why not go 512 bit

orchid frigate
#

Most of the time to test stuff

hasty bane
#

13,407,807,929,942,597,099,574,024,998,205,846,127,479,365,820,592,393,377,723,561,443,721,764,030,073,546,976,801,874,298,166,903,427,690,031,858,186,486,050,853,753,882,811,946,569,946,433,649,006,084,095

orchid frigate
#

😔

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Its a pretty small number honestly

orchid frigate
#

Doesnt even have 100 zeros smh my head

hasty bane
#

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

orchid frigate
#

Actually i think it has

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Well doesnt have 1000 zeros bruh

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Smol

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I can count to it in a day

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While im eating breakfast

hasty bane
#

I HATE 128-BIT

orchid frigate
#

Why

orchid frigate
#

I wanna try to make a 128 bit os

hasty bane
#

brb reading abt c# stuff

orchid frigate
#

Bru c#

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High level cring

hasty bane
#

yes c#

orchid frigate
#

Real gamers use binary or hexagonal

hasty bane
#

binary

orchid frigate
#

Or fuck it they just create their own pc Architecture

hasty bane
#

yes

orchid frigate
#

You cant tell them what to do they create their own pc parts

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With their own mats

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With their own molecules

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With their own...you get the idea

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They create their own realities

hasty bane
#

yes

orchid frigate
#

You know, as you do

hasty bane
#

i create dimensions and universes every day for the lulz

orchid frigate
#

Lets talk about how awesome cpus are

hasty bane
#

They're awful

orchid frigate
#

I underestimated what they do and how cool their software part is

hasty bane
#

I despise CPUs

#

gigahertz

#

eugh

#

digusting

orchid frigate
#

No

hasty bane
#

so bad i cant even type properly

orchid frigate
#

Smh you gpu user

hasty bane
#

gpu?

#

that's offensive

#

i only use cooling fans to run my pc

orchid frigate
hasty bane
#

none of that RAM GPU CPU HDD SSD bullshit

orchid frigate
#

I respect that

hasty bane
#

It may be 165db but it works

orchid frigate
#

You have earned my respect for 0xaa55 years

hasty bane
orchid frigate
#

wbsmirk 👍

#

What fan do you use

hasty bane
#

handheld fan

orchid frigate
#

I use a marvel fan to hold a cooling fan to cool my pc

hasty bane
#

point it at the display and it does computer things

main brook
#

YASSS

#

AFTER A MONTH

#

AND 2 WEEKS

#

my bot have all its main feature implemented

orchid frigate
#

Rei

hasty bane
#

what does it do

orchid frigate
#

I wanna tell you something

main brook
#

after breaking my back for days

orchid frigate
#

Im learning assembly

main brook
hasty bane
#

neat

main brook
#

indeed

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its actually easy but

#

i decided to add new unrelated feature

main brook
hasty bane
#

:DDD

main brook
#

yes

orchid frigate
#

Ye ima make cozyOS in no time

main brook
#

when you add new feature to an alternative good project:

main brook
hasty bane
#

lmfao

orchid frigate
#

Look

main brook
#

because apparently the syntax is kinda different

#

for amd and arm

#

so

orchid frigate
#

Donr exoect it to have fancy things like

main brook
#

goodluck with that twice

hasty bane
#

ok so

orchid frigate
#

Graphics

#

Or

#

Web browsers

hasty bane
#

explain why we didn't just make one single language for everything

#

can't?

main brook
#

does it come with a cute wallpaper

hasty bane
#

thought so

orchid frigate
main brook
#

binary language

orchid frigate
#

Just a console

main brook
#

or you know

hasty bane
main brook
#

modern language

#

they compile down to native binary language

#

so works on arm and amd

#

just the third party packages

hasty bane
#

why don't we work like computers

#

speak in binary

main brook
#

because

#

we use base 10

hasty bane
#

ahhh

#

lame

main brook
#

wait no

#

base64

main brook
#

now have fun handling which is amd and which is arm

#

architecture

orchid frigate
#

Its gonna be 128 bit if i figure out how to do that

hasty bane
#

do 512 bit

orchid frigate
#

Yes