⌨coders-cave

[orchid frigate]

but there is no point in doing it

[knotty root]

ig

[orchid frigate]

if you wanna do it for the sake of fun then I understand I did that but otherwise its not practical

[quartz pumice]

16kb for a fucking triangle 😭

[frozen ginkgo]

Are there any good coding languages to start from?

[wet girder]

Honestly any language will work as long as you stick to one until you're good with it

I recommend C# to most people but most languages will work

[frozen ginkgo]

Kk

[main peak]

Yeah

[tulip lava]

Listen, is it possible to make a bot in the Discord bot maker that crashes the servers after your ban?

[quartz pumice]

wat

[soft nexus]

i mean

.......

yeah

as long as you can somehow get the owners to trust it with admin perms

[random summit]

Hey man can I ask something

[tulip lava]

thank you very much

[dusty kernel]

yeah you can ask everything I think

Someone will give you the answer

[orchid frigate]

no bro its illigal

[quartz pumice]

People will literally not stop asking to ask

[feral bramble]

https://dontasktoask.com/

TLDR: just say the god damn fucking question in the first message

I hate the fact it's so prevalent that this website exists...

[quartz pumice]

thres also more

like https://tryitands.ee

[barren shale]

Who toucha my discord layout

https://tenor.com/view/gritty-yes-shocked-pissed-gif-12610937

[feral bramble]

Hmm the December 4th update hasn't reached me yet ig

is the lates 206.16 or is it something else?

[wet girder]

I have the new layout and I'm on 206.16

[feral bramble]

Weird

I'm on 206.16 as well and only have access to a new layout toggle which is different than what people have been showing

[barren shale]

its not about the update

we all have the layout but discord is slowly pushing it to people for some reason

all these big apps do this for some reason

they push the new things but they keep them hidden for a while

[quartz pumice]

I wonder why

[barren shale]

i think its so everyone would have the features by the time they push them out

not everyone updates their apps at the same time

so if you wait two weeks most people wouldve updated

[feral bramble]

Welp wonder how long it's gonna be before i get hit with it

[lofty phoenix]

enjoy the time you have left

[jolly field]

Jupe! This has the r-word in it!!

[wet girder]

oh fuck

[jolly field]

Reporting to admins.

[dreamy vortex]

Gn coders

[barren shale]

Why are people hating on the new layout

It looks fine

[wet girder]

It's buggy

Atleast for me

And the right bar is now hidden so I have to press up from channel name and not swipe to the right

When I swipe like before it answers message

[knotty root]

Bugs, mostly

Also for the swipe reply

[barren shale]

That’s cool?

Haven’t seen any bugs yet

[knotty root]

Yes but people are used to swipe to check members

Including me

Clicking the top of the screen is completely different to that

[barren shale]

Yeah I think having to click on the channel name to see the members is not very clear

But I like the swipe to reply

Replying is used way more than looking at members

Hold + press for reply is too much friction

[knotty root]

Sometimes chat names go blank

[barren shale]

Maybe just make a show members button instead of clicking the channels name to be more obvious

[knotty root]

Yeah

[barren shale]

Hmm

Haven’t happened to e

But bugs are expected I’m sure they are going to fix it

And then it’s gonna be better than the old one

[knotty root]

Yeah

Also, when I check members it shows Jupe’s friend nickname

[wet girder]

True dat

[wet girder]

I have bugs every time I open the app, one time the app thought I was in dms when I tried to send message in #🌎general and told me I needed to send friend request to the person I'm trying to connet and one time the bottom bar thing just disappeared

[barren shale]

Android users be like:

But yeah from what I’ve been hearing there are lots of bugs for a released version

[wet girder]

Really feels like a beta to me

[barren shale]

But as for the looks it doesn’t really look bad

[wet girder]

It looks clean yeah

[barren shale]

I really like the new color too

[wet girder]

What new color

[barren shale]

The theme color

[wet girder]

I just selected the midnight one which looks the same as old AMOLED mode so idk anything about that

[barren shale]

Is it pure black for the midnight one?

That would be a great battery saver for oled screens

[wet girder]

Yep, saves battery for me because I have AMOLED screen on my oneplus nord ce 2 5G

Almost all pixels are just turned off when I use discord

[quartz pumice]

Damn

[feral bramble]

I still have the new UI toggle

When switching from old to new the experimental AMOLED mode becomes midnight theme.

they be the same thing

[barren shale]

why does discord not draw the corner pixels on IOS is the real question

wtf i just noticed

you cant tell on the phone because it's rounded but wtf

[wet girder]

lol

[feral bramble]

Weird feature

[feral bramble]

wait is it just discord screenshots that does that for you?

[barren shale]

Yeah it’s only on discord

They probably rounded the edges of the whole app for some reason

But then why only one pixel

It’s weird

[next lotus]

c#

[barren shale]

CEE 🔪

[naive sonnet]

bro

[barren shale]

someone deleted my ip 😔

it was a very cool ip

[feral bramble]

x.x.x.x
that's the ip but without the numbers

[barren shale]

yeah 4 1 digit numbers

[tropic dagger]

I'm about to do some calculus

I'll be implementing it in C++ and I might put the header on GitHub because everyone needs a little calculus in their lives

[quartz pumice]

uwa

Looks like I can learn calculus before calculus class

[tropic dagger]

good luck, this shit is so rough I have to go to sleep 💀
hard to process this shit even after I learned how to do it two different ways

[feral bramble]

You only need C if doing indefinite integrals

or just assume that C = 0

[tropic dagger]

there's really no use for calculating integrals that I can think of anway, it's nowhere near as important as derivates, tangents, and normals

[feral bramble]

for example the integral of x is (x²/2)+C

[tropic dagger]

which is what I'm going to be doing

[feral bramble]

Yeah

Really only thing i can think off the top of my head is like how much distance traveled if at X acceleration

from this time to that time

[tropic dagger]

which isn't necessary considering that knowledge can be found much easier than using fucking calculus

[feral bramble]

yeah

[tropic dagger]

but normals and tangents are nice to know

especially for rendering, which my current project involves

I was going to have to do calculus eventually 😭

[feral bramble]

Ah so that's what ur usin it for

[tropic dagger]

yeah

that, and I'm going to either sell it to the guy in the screenshot or post it publicly on github for weirdos and losers to use freely

depending on how charitable I feel and how much I could use $5

[feral bramble]

So what's the renderin gonna be for exactly?

[tropic dagger]

game

I'm just shitting out a minecraft clone to prove I can

plus I'll keep the header in case I need it later, it's already got a lot of other useful code

some geometry formulas and structs

[feral bramble]

neat

[tropic dagger]

it's got a weird name though, I don't want to name it math.h because of the C header file (I know I can, but that could cause problems later on when I use it as a library file and it's just not good practice) so I named it maths.h

it's british 😭

[knotty root]

L M F A O

[knotty root]

i'm interested

[cobalt ember]

Yoo guys! I recently started learning coding, so sry for stupid questions ofc(if they are). I've started from c++ and now I want to combine VS with database. So.. what technology coders usually use? :p MySQL with C++ connector? Or maybe other libraries, or ODBC(still don't really understand what is this thing lol)

[wet girder]

I don't know if anyone on this server is really knowledgeable on C++ with databases. I personally do .NET development with C# and VB so I know about databases but now how to use them with C++

[cobalt ember]

nvm, anyway thank you, I'll just continue googling

[quartz pumice]

Me and sqlite meanwhile

[quartz pumice]

also why do all c libraries HAVED to be dynamic? Why cant it just be a header..

[tropic dagger]

If you've started learning C++ recently, I recommend following through with that a bit more before you start trying to learn a library or API. Just fiddle around with the language features and find the subset you like working with before moving onto more grandiose things.
At least know the core of C++ like classes, structs, pointers and some of the object library

I've been working with it for about 3 years now and I can say from experience that knowing more of the language itself will help you learn other skills faster as you don't need to worry yourself with how to do basic tasks and can focus entirely on implementing your shiny database

Sorry for the paragraph

[cobalt ember]

Well, not that recently at all xd, I know OOP, stl, pointers, links and other ordinary stuff. I said that recently, cause my tongue still doesn't dare to describe my skills as if I am capable of writing something useful lol. My next task is to write a desktop application using Qt and databases, but moving on after learning the basics is still hard

[tropic dagger]

Moving on from the basics is always going to be hard. It's just as hard as starting from scratch (because you basically are) and don't give into your imposter syndrome; there's plenty of applications for just the core features of just about any language

I wish you luck, remember to take breaks

[spare wraith]

Hey I lost my iOS account and I was wondering if I could get it on my Android or if you cannot help me where to go to get help

[young flume]

both were from complete different device, please come here #🚑help-chat

[orchid frigate]

100% true

[quartz pumice]

lmao yeah

[quartz pumice]

Rust is an unholy language used by the apostates, and as such, we shall fight against them

[orchid frigate]

if rust is an unholy language then im the devil himself

[warped haven]

rust is a texture

wait this isn’t general my bad ☠️

[dreamy vortex]

insane

[warped haven]

bro please don’t ss this ☠️☠️

[dreamy vortex]

Too late.

[jolly field]

Insane.

[rose pawn]

you can delete your message

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[jolly field]

⛸️

[pallid ice]

⛸️

[barren shale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/693897754753105942/919001950413008906/image0-238.gif

[warped haven]

too late

[rose pawn]

did u delete it?

[warped haven]

no 👽

[rose pawn]

by common sense you would delete it before you ask this question

almost like you don't actually care and just joking

and its almost like

[warped haven]

[rose pawn]

that's completely acceptable

almost like

that's how people

act and socialize

[warped haven]

what is bro yapping about

[rose pawn]

all im yapping is your mom and "yap" means "to do" in turkish

[lilac bay]

hi

[lilac bay]

Turkish rizz

[rugged field]

hey how do i make a worldbox mod

[young flume]

𝙼͢𝚘͢𝚍͢𝚍͢𝚒͢𝚗͢𝚐͢ 𝚃͢𝚞͢𝚝͢𝚘͢𝚛͢𝚒͢𝚊͢𝚕͢
Want to learn how to make mods?

NCMS
https://gamebanana.com/tuts/16266

Native
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/How_to_make_mods_(native_modding_system)

Bepinex
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2106187116

[next lotus]

oh fuck

i accidentally

nvm

[static solar]

#🔧modding-talk

[quartz pumice]

vs 😭

[still sinew]

If you do <void on Java, does it delete clones?

[wet girder]

Void does nothing more than tell that the function returns nothing

[flat valley]

you use void in the place of the parameter if you arent returning anything

[orchid frigate]

Void is used when the function associated isnt meant to return anything

[next lotus]

guys is cloudflare down?

[cloud wigeon]

No?

[barren shale]

me when the

[rose pawn]

replace one of those ; with greek question mark character

[barren shale]

no thanks i dont wanna die

i should make a virus that goes to all code files and replaces all of the semi colons with the greek question mark

that would be very evil >:)

[orchid frigate]

Atp cant you just include everything

[barren shale]

no

the correct way to do this is to split them into multiple files

makes ordering better too

because currently this is how im using all of these dependencies

there's more it cant fit though

so yeah but im lazy to split them into files so its gonna be like this for now 👍

[gleaming widget]

So much knowledge beyond my understanding :0

[quartz pumice]

https://devforum.roblox.com/t/introducing-unreliableremoteevents/2724155 holy shit roblox is an absolute W

[static solar]

Are those all?

[barren shale]

All of them

Why would they be there if I’m not using them

[barren shale]

(edited)

[static solar]

Dunno

They‘re just so many

[wet girder]

I just found out that easypark had been hacked and some customers data leaked to the open internet through reddit and found guide how to know if I was affected as I am easypark customer and I was affected. Would've been nice if the company contacted me about it like any reputable company does...

[quartz pumice]

Are they allowed to not contact you?!??!

[orchid frigate]

Atp roblox may be better quality than unity is some aspects

[prime kiln]

hello people of the cave

goodbye people of the cave

[wet girder]

They technically did but only through their app that I use once every 2 months because I don't need parking spots that often

[glacial horizon]

I think I can ask the local Python developers of the discord bots |||| about this problem? If there are any of course.

[wet girder]

You have { instead of ( on line 94

oh wait

nvm

you don't need the {} you've got there

it thinks you're giving it a list for description

[glacial horizon]

Oooh

Ok, thanks, I hope this help

[orchid frigate]

im convinced anyone who writes a book about programming is intermidiete at best and only knows front-end, enough to get him a job

I have a 600 page book about c#

which could easily be cut to 100 pages or less

and the shit they teach isnt even useful

[lapis flint]

If they know front-end, they know that js is not a java

So they don't know even front-end

[barren shale]

my OS lecturer said that java and jvm run webbrowsers

[quartz pumice]

Lmao

[austere wren]

Men . . But in C+

[quartz pumice]

whar

[austere wren]

It makes sense

[quartz pumice]

Yed

[austere wren]

Yem

[flat valley]

Burn this book

[next lotus]

same lmfao

lets be honest, if you're a really skilled programmer are you going to waste your time teaching on a school that pays minimum wage?

nope, the stress aint worth it man

[fair quarry]

Advice №1. Don't

[next lotus]

bruh

my java teacher doesnt know ternary operators :(

[barren shale]

Don’t worry my two years ago my OOP lecturer asked me what the f after numbers do

They didn’t know

[quartz pumice]

Naww

[barren shale]

Teaching salaries are so trash here so it’s basically the bottom of the pit

Most of them have not made a useable app ever

I probably make double their salaries

[quartz pumice]

oof

[hollow bronze]

it does give you a piece of paper that allows you to make more money

[sage valley]

Hey, how would i add common knowledges into the game, then correlate them to in game things

Im new to c# btw

[knotty root]

Ok I won’t

[barren shale]

Not worth the time tbh

If you spend your time learning on your own you can get so much more

[quartz pumice]

I'm under the impression that it is very difficult to make money without the piece of paper

[hollow bronze]

it is a gatekeeping thing in certain places

[barren shale]

the gatekeeping seems to be going down

and if you used the 4-5 years to work on yourself the right way it wont be that big of a deal since your resume should be filled with projects anyway

or just do what im doing and work for yourself

[barren shale]

most simple linq expression

actually this is pretty simple compared to some of the other ones i wrote

[orchid frigate]

looks like rust

I might actually like linq

[barren shale]

Damn rust be copying C# smh

[orchid frigate]

😠

[barren shale]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-sleep-gif-18921510

[wet girder]

I had a teacher in vocational school that worked in software for 15 years before teaching. He went from junior to leading multiple high value projects before teaching and he's super skilled. The vocational school pays software development teachers well tho, it's not as much as they do make actually doing software development but it's like double what regular teachers make

He has since gone to university of applied sciences to teach software development, I'm guessing he's getting a good amount of money there as well

[rose pawn]

jupe lore dropped

[brittle trout]

my teacher gets paid 200k + housing + free education for his children a year

and education is 50k a year so he saves 100k a year

[next lotus]

hello new to c#

[next lotus]

get me a job for that school

[brittle trout]

go to the uk which isn’t worth it

[orchid frigate]

I suddenly love children

And want to give them a happy and prosporous future

[barren shale]

bro wtf does this dude teach

[dusty kernel]

slang language

[hollow bronze]

not here anyways

and not all people function the same way

I prefer self-taught as far as knowledge, but I'm pretty bad about self-projects

Some people I know struggle with self taught as well

I think either way theres no one size fits all, and people should go the path that best suits them

[brittle trout]

most basic computer science shit

[austere wren]

Pluh

[wicked trail]

Pluh

[quartz pumice]

Teachers that teach html getting their 200k salary vs teachers that teach c getting 30k

[still bramble]

That sounds extremely unfair

[orchid frigate]

thats the point

[next lotus]

html is more in demand

but hell nah im never teaching java even if you pay me 200k

[barren shale]

what is there to teach in html

you could learn everything about it in like 4 hours

[austere wren]

The certifications are just easier and thus better bonuses

I didn't even have to study for my exam bro 😭

[quartz pumice]

Yeah but bonuses arent enough to up your salary by 170k

[knotty root]

why do people have so many problems with java

jeez

it was my first language

and i am perfectly

fine

[quartz pumice]

You are not fine, you do not look fine, everyone who says they are fine without coincidence is not fine

[orchid frigate]

Anyone who didn't start with a c language, unity or html and JavaScript is mentally insane by definition

[knotty root]

and how do you know that?

[orchid frigate]

You just gotta trust

[stone fractal]

steam gifts!

3W5WI- 6LRIX-ZNY4C
2W09Y-JBVVB- 0Q4WB
WABY7- 3Z4XM-N2XV4

[young flume]

TAKES

COME ON

[terse shadow]

taken by my friends ez

now my whole gang has the game

[frosty jackal]

not me trying to redeem one despite already owning the game...

[sterile dove]

What are they contains

[young flume]

free worldbox but i don't know if all of them taken

considering it's yesterday

unfortunately i think it's already taken ny someone else

[astral basin]

Free steam gift codes

||DV4KX-KD503-65MNH||
||6CI8W-DXV88-8VAXV||

[dreamy vessel]

Free steam gift codes from mastef

mwa

[dreamy vortex]

shoot i gotta get steam

on my computadora

[dreamy vessel]

viener buy me wb premium on mobile plz

[heavy fjord]

[sudden coyote]

Anyone for mobile?

[still bramble]

Sadly no

[knotty root]

hello

is anyone here

[torpid isle]

hi

[knotty root]

hi are you good with computing

[knotty root]

can you help

how to run this please?

no .exe

[quartz pumice]

Can't you get an actual distribution

Is there a releases page

[knotty root]

The installer was broken a bunch of missing dll

But it's OK I fixed it by installing all the missing dll and put it in the folder

[quartz pumice]

Nice

[quartz pumice]

You might not have gotten the dll from building it

[brittle trout]

i forgot to save my project i’m shooting myself

[wet girder]

Relatable also don't shoot yourself

[visual falcon]

hey question how can i like make the border bigger or the map bigger

[tropic dagger]

not a question for us

[knotty root]

ordenador

[hollow sky]

Yo guys

Is this good enough for a forth wall break in my game?

using UnityEngine;

public class FourthWallBreak : MonoBehaviour
{
private bool hasTriggered = false;

private void Update()
{
    // Trigger the fourth-wall break once (adjust conditions as needed)
    if (!hasTriggered && Input.GetKeyDown(KeyCode.Space))
    {
        StartCoroutine(TriggerFourthWallBreak());
    }
}

private System.Collections.IEnumerator TriggerFourthWallBreak()
{
    hasTriggered = true;

    // Change window title
    SetWindowTitle("I AM A GOD. DO NOT DENY IT");

    // Simulate shaking effect (adjust intensity and duration as needed)
    for (float t = 0; t < 1.0f; t += Time.deltaTime / 2.0f)
    {
        float offsetX = Random.Range(-0.1f, 0.1f);
        float offsetY = Random.Range(-0.1f, 0.1f);
        transform.position += new Vector3(offsetX, offsetY, 0);
        yield return null;
    }

    // Reset window title
    SetWindowTitle("Your Game Title");

    // Reset position (if applicable)
    transform.position = Vector3.zero;

    hasTriggered = false;
}

private void SetWindowTitle(string title)
{
    // Code to set window title (platform-specific)
    #if UNITY_STANDALONE_WIN
    SetWindowText(GetActiveWindow(), title);
    #endif
}

#if UNITY_STANDALONE_WIN
[System.Runtime.InteropServices.DllImport("user32.dll")]
private static extern System.IntPtr GetActiveWindow();

[System.Runtime.InteropServices.DllImport("user32.dll", EntryPoint = "SetWindowText")]
private static extern bool SetWindowText(System.IntPtr hwnd, System.String lpString);
#endif

}

[quartz pumice]

No

I'm not reading that

You need to use code blocks or send it as a file

#include <stdio.h>
void main() {
  printf("omg guys it is codeblock") // holy shit it is codeblock
}

[static solar]

Please use code blocks

[orchid frigate]

Holy shit

Its a code block

Omg thats a code block

[barren shale]

bro cant even semicolon smh my head

[dusty kernel]

YEAH OMG THAT'S A REAL CODE BLOCK

[barren shale]

its C

main has to be called main

and it is upperCamelCase

you are talking about PascalCase

[static solar]

Book said so 🤓

I will just remove my statement

[barren shale]

as you should

there's no space for inaccuracy in this channel smh my head

[quartz pumice]

ew

For some reason I don't like seeing upperCamelCase

And sometimes I like seeing it

[static solar]

https://tenor.com/view/auuuuuuhhhh-aaaaaaa-gif-23131850

[dusty kernel]

?

You don't like and like at once

I like upperCamelCase

[orchid frigate]

Its the ugliest good looking thing

[feral bramble]

Oh so that's what it's called

never knew that

Wait PascalCase and UpperCamelCase same thing?
lowerCamelCase
https://wiki.c2.com/?LowerCamelCase

Ok if specifying kind of camel case lowercase letter first is lowerCamelCase

[barren shale]

oh uppercamelcase

i thought he said camelcase

ive never heard of uppercamelcase

its either PascalCase or camelCase normally

🐪

[feral bramble]

From what I can tell camelCase generally refers to the lowercase first.

Though you would use the terminology i brought up earlier if trying to be specific

[orchid frigate]

Goddamn this is actually a huge topic

just say caseThis/CaseThis/case_this

[feral bramble]

mmm simple

[next lotus]

what im about to drop is an information hazard

[feral bramble]

😠

[quartz pumice]

😠

[smoky atlas]

[barren shale]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-roll-rick-ashley-never-gonna-give-you-up-gif-22113173

[smoky atlas]

oh fuck

I should have expected lmao

[barren shale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/693897754753105942/919001950413008906/image0-238.gif

[young flume]

lmao

[smoky atlas]

shush

[barren shale]

its time to go

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-sleep-gif-18921510

[young flume]

bye-bye hamza, sleep well

[smoky atlas]

Cya, blue but turtle

[barren shale]

im not going to sleep smh its 6 pm

[young flume]

💀

[barren shale]

good idea though 👍

[young flume]

unreal

[inner tangle]

Anyone know lua?

[wet girder]

I know the basics of it. I don't like the language tho

[quartz pumice]

https://dontasktoask.com

[static solar]

Same actually

[inner tangle]

Yea ig

[lucid flame]

Shake em shake

[barren shale]

im making a compiler using javacc 🤢

uni do be torturing us

it doesnt even have intelisense

[inner tangle]

Oh

Hamza

[rose pawn]

happy new year

[brittle matrix]

HAPPY NEW YEAR

[tall dune]

Can I ask something is the new update release early or in mid year?

[orchid frigate]

We are currently developing it but due to the amount of content being added its expected to release some time next year

[barren shale]

didnt we agree that its gonna be out in 2034?

why you lying to people

smh

[quartz pumice]

I managed to convince an intern to do all the work I was supposed to do

[static solar]

I thought 3034, don’t wanna stress anyone

[prisma grail]

Really? I thought one of you accidentally completely wiped all branches from the local and remote repositories a few hours ago. IwI

[static solar]

Yeah, yeah, but we still have the source from the pre-Steam release

So we‘ll work from there

[torpid isle]

i feel like you guys don't check beta testing channels enough, Maxim clearly said they're switching from C# to Rust so it'll take another 2 years.

[prisma grail]

Oh dear, isn't that written in Python with a transpiler/code minifier into C#? TwT

[static solar]

Actually, it was Java

They said we need to go back to the roots

Our faithfulness shall pay off

[torpid isle]

no, they're using a hacked version of Unreal Engine that works with Rust

which also means we're getting a 3D lighting update

that's why Cody's gone inactive recently, he's sulking that his 3D mod has to be discarded

[prisma grail]

Hopefully Java 8.

[static solar]

Still think we should just scrap WorldBox and make WorldChest Deluxe Edition, which will be a 3D Battle Royale Shooter, but management won‘t listen to me

[prisma grail]

Well, why would they, you don't have even nearly enough microtransactions planned in your proposal!

[static solar]

Right, we have to innovate!

How about we add two battle passes?!

We can add two battlepasses which last for a day, and only give XP, that adds nothing, you can pay extra money to skip to the end of the battlepass immediately

[prisma grail]

How genius, I'm sure that everyone would love spending their live savings on watching a meaningless number go up! ^.^

[young flume]

that's sounds hilarious

[north dune]

[jolly field]

What?

[feral bramble]

wait what

is all of this satire i assume

[young flume]

no, i don't think so

[hardy field]

No it isn't, the 3d modern update shall come soon (in a geological timespan, at least)

[orchid frigate]

I talked to administration about adding an open world survival gamemode with triple A graphics, cars, guns and hookers and they agreed

so the update will be delayed for a little longer

maybe a few centuries or so no biggie

[outer coyote]

Can they add miniguns and beans

And how do i see my rank

!rank

[outer coyote]

😦

[next lotus]

did someone say java

[wet girder]

I hope not

[rose pawn]

java

[next lotus]

😡

[short chasm]

Java seems like it is miserable to use

But it also looks very useful

Should I learn it?

[next lotus]

its miserable and not useful

every code you write in java is instant legacy code

companies avoid java for a reason, google made kotlin, microsoft made c#, minecraft has a bedrock version

everything is avoiding java, so should you

[static solar]

Well, some people might respect your traditionalism

But no

[old mural]

but apparently minecraft java edition is better?

[torpid isle]

people who say it's better are usually referring to the modding and community side of it, that and the fact it's not filled with micro-transactions

anyone who's played both would know Bedrock is simply better mechanically and performance-wise.

[tropic dagger]

Java is vastly outdated, especially now that oop is becoming less prevalent

Plus the JVM has some unfortunate restrictions last I checked, anything that is made in Java can be made faster and better in several other languages, it's a shock it still receives updates, not to say that it's objectively bad, just that there're better options available usually

[eager jasper]

Hello, what language do you like to use most for programming?

[wet girder]

I personally prefer C# but I don't use it for everything. Only the stuff it actually properly works for

[young flume]

C# too

[frosty jackal]

C# but Chicken close second tho (i have never used chicken)

[prisma grail]

Nah, whitespace is better.
||Jokes aside though, it's C# for me too, it's a great language, and, in my opinion, also what works best for most things I do.||

[frosty jackal]

chicken is chicken + 66% of it is whitespace its just better

[wet girder]

VB.NET is goofy ahh. The && operator from C# is AndAlso in VB.NET and & is And Similarly for || it's OrElse and | is Or

goofy ahh language

[prisma grail]

Never before have I heard of an "AndAlso" tbh...
Like, idk if this is a stupid question, but what's the difference? IwI

[wet girder]

Have you ever used & operator in C#?

It's used for bitmasks mostly

[prisma grail]

It it the same as the one in Java? If yes, then yes.

[wet girder]

nope it is not the same

[prisma grail]

(Based on that, I'd assume it's a yes.)

[prisma grail]

Ok, then I have no idea.

Though I do believe I know what a bitmask is.

[wet girder]

Picture shows what it's in java link is for C# documentation on bitwise operators that explains what it does in C#
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/language-reference/operators/bitwise-and-shift-operators#logical-and-operator-

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/operator-in-java-with-examples-2/

well it's close to being the same

you can use it for bitwise operators in Java as well

but in C# if you try using & instead of && it won't work too well

[prisma grail]

Oh, I only knew about the bitwise functionality in Java.

[wet girder]

In Java apparently you can use & in place of && and it will work but might introduce unwanted behavior

[prisma grail]

Yeah, imagine doing that when e.g. the first condition is a null check of a variable that you then access in the second condition. xD

[next lotus]

we are all politically aligned here

the air we breathe, thats c#

the food that we eat, it's c#

reality is written in c#

[orchid frigate]

then im the opposition

because I breath C/C++

I eat Rust

and my reality is written in assembly

#LowLevelMatters

[next lotus]

nah you're good you dont write in java

if i see a java devloper i jump at them

everytime my java professor comes in the room the entire session becomes a debate club

[orchid frigate]

Assembly but only because im too lazy to finish the one thing I have started doing in it and without finishing it I cant move on to another language

[still bramble]

The language “brain fuck”

It’s extremely popular

[prisma grail]

Don't recommend such beginner languages, true programmers use malbolge.
||(This is still sarcasm, like my previous contribution to the question.)||

[feral bramble]

You're giving such good suggestions frfr

[prisma grail]

I'm the best programmer of this server!

||(If we filter out everyone but the AMP dev team.)||

||((And invert the resulting list.))||

[feral bramble]

real

[prisma grail]

UwU

[static solar]

Do you say that the AMP dev team sucks??

[prisma grail]

Wdym, I called myself the least competent AMP dev with those instructions.

Because I said that to be on top of the list, it needs to be inverted.

Implying that if it's not inverted, I'm the worst AMP dev.

Making Cloud and Jupe better than me.

Like, the only bad AMP dev is the 2020 version of Jupe, deciding to use Python, change my mind.

[static solar]

Oh. Misread it to read if they filter out the AMP dev team

[prisma grail]

xD

[static solar]

Therefore saying the AMP dev team needs to be filtered out, else they would be better than you, if the list was inverted

:P

[prisma grail]

Yeah, yeah, makes sense. IwI

[next lotus]

what is going on

what is amp dev team

[prisma grail]

The people coding @bitter sedge .

[next lotus]

what's this mod about?

[prisma grail]

AMP isn't a mod, it's the bot that I just pinged.

And it's just a random assortment of features useful for this specific server.

[feral bramble]

~throw keymasterer

:(

[prisma grail]

...
What were you expecting that to do? IwI

[feral bramble]

there we go -w-

[jolly field]

?

[primal spire]

hey anyone know how to open .wbox files to expand a world

[frosty jackal]

if you mean make an already existing world bigger idk if that exists

if not then the general way to open a .wbox file is by using the game

[frosty jackal]

know cody created something, don't think he ever posted it

[primal spire]

Damn

Still thanks tho

I changed my plan now

Im gonna make a mod for wb

[north dune]

it was a feature of mapsizes for a while, but janky, so removed

[barren shale]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-tea-tea-day-sipping-tea-gif-15288264

cody lurks here apparently

smh

[prisma grail]

I would say he only looks at good channels, but that wouldn't make sense when considering his occasional messages in #🌎general .

[feral bramble]

Can do it manually

easiest way to do so is taking the .wbax autosave format as that's actually uncompressed

If making a world bigger vertically that's no problem, just make new lines.

red circle corresponds to the bottom layer of pixels in a world

order of stuff in tileMap determines what number is assigned. and in this case deep ocean is 0 and sand is 1

if i wanted a horizontal 16 pixel long tile of sand at the south west corner of the world
the resulting tileArray and tileAmounts pair would be
[1,0]
[16,112]

Total number of lines is dependent on vertical world size
What tileAmounts have to sum up to is dependent on horizontal world size

both only increment by 64

[quartz pumice]

Are you guys talking about modding in coders cave? Shame on you

[feral bramble]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I'm just talkin bout how worlds determine what the land in em is

[quartz pumice]

It seems really easy to expand a world bottom and top

maybe just 12 lines python

[feral bramble]

Yeah just need to add more lines

changing the width of a world requires you to edit what's in the arrays

[quartz pumice]

Oof

Save everything in the arrays and make a new array then have some offset????

I'm so bored rn

[feral bramble]

Ok lets say in a 2by2 world at line 64 of tileArray you have [0,1,0]
and at line 64 of tileAmounts [63,1,64]

if you want to make the world 4 wide and keep the sand in the center...

the pair becomes
[0,0,1,0,0]
[64,63,1,64,64]

[feral bramble]

could just shorten it but the game be fine reading it like this thankfully

[quartz pumice]

wat

okay so is it a legitimate 2d array or a 1d array pretending to be 2D

[feral bramble]

1d array pretending to be 2d it seems like @quartz pumice idk

[feral bramble]

like look at this shit

so many fuckin linebreaks

[quartz pumice]

fr

[quartz pumice]

ok

even easier (I think)

[feral bramble]

ok guess it is a 2d array?

[feral bramble]

cause without the line breaks it just be
[[0],[0]....[0]]

[quartz pumice]

Itz a 2D array of it's stored like this { { 500 rows}, { 500 rows } ... 498 rows.. }

[feral bramble]

Oh has to be a consistent amount in each bracket?

[quartz pumice]

No

It would probably be the only way that works practically though

Bruh

Where do I download maps so I can see it myself when I get home? I don't have pc version

[feral bramble]

Ok i can give ya the map.wbax i used as an example

it consists of ocean with a 16 by 16 square of sand on the north west

[quartz pumice]

thx

[feral bramble]

Also reason for multi KB file size is cause i trait spammed some guy

would only be a couple or few without that lol

#🌐map-downloads message ok gonna see if I can expand this map while keeping it centered

~decode

~help

oh right can't use amp in here

[north dune]

no

[frosty jackal]

giving me nightmarish flashbacks when i was trying to understand it a while ago

[feral bramble]

:d

I figured it out when I was tryin to use codepen.io to make a image to map generator

The thing is not detailed images work just fine, but when doin more than that i get an index outta bound error

[frosty jackal]

why would you use codepen to do that

[feral bramble]

cause I used my phone

and i don't have worldbox on steam

so modding outta the question

it was just more convient for me pre tty much

[frosty jackal]

damn

should get worldbox on steam then LMAO

[feral bramble]

im not payin $20 or whatever for it

all i do is run games long term anyways

waitttt i have a old laptop and and android VM on it...

oooooh

[frosty jackal]

maxim and mastif posted some keys in here a while ago

[feral bramble]

all them are used

[frosty jackal]

they lasted a surpsingly long time sorry you didn't get one of them tho

[feral bramble]

yeah they lasted a while cause nobody ever looks in here

https://codepen.io/Deathrobloxian/pen/ExGozRg
code pen if curious

Yeah sucks

[frosty jackal]

does this do the latest save version format?

[feral bramble]

It does map.wbax

last i tried a few weeks ago it still works

Still have no fucking clue how to fix the bug of more detailed images not working

also tried adding a way to replace image by uploading file but didn't get that working either

[frosty jackal]

OH you just set out every tile in the tileMap LMAO

i was confused for a second

why didn't i do that-

thats so much less complicated

[feral bramble]

not as much as the imagetomap mod but ye lol

[frosty jackal]

issue with quantizing?

[feral bramble]

Didn't bother including the cybercore or tnt on tile stuff

[feral bramble]

I doubled check the autosaves and the generated arrays seem to be in bounds

sum up to proper map width, proper amount of lines

but could be miscounting somewhere

lemme go grab an exampl of a working and not working one i got

[frosty jackal]

mk

yeah what exactly is broken with more detailed like it won't generate or load

[feral bramble]

out of boudns

working one (if u rename it properly ofc)

[feral bramble]

my code makes teh save file just fine, it's just not a valid one somehow

despite it working just fine for simpler images like the one you see in the codepen

[frosty jackal]

incorrect values in tileAmounts possibly?

[feral bramble]

ok imma look closely at the erroring one yet again

[frosty jackal]

i remember having a similar error, forget how i solved it

[feral bramble]

ok tileArray count is fine

time to check tile amount

Ok 64 [...]s in both

the amount of arrays within them is fine

ok time to see if all the tile amounts arrays add up to 64

ok tile array is within bounds of the 36 items i put in tile map

ok time to run some code to make sure tileAmount sums up properly to 64 in each array

[frosty jackal]

the manual checking

painful

[feral bramble]

Checked via javascript and yup all the tile amounts add up to 64

wtfff

Where the hell am i getting an out of bounds error at

[frosty jackal]

maybe i can try and find the line of code where it is erroring and see if that can help?

[feral bramble]

ok lemme run it rq on my worldbox the

[feral bramble]

I don't understand what makes it outof boudnsss

stupid shit like this works just fine https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/535208693478981632/1153027530639560754/preview.png?ex=65a42111&is=6591ac11&hm=77df3314b4cd94378010c29597ea9abb8884eba3c88897dbd46910cd64e6b89d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

the tileAmount map is literally all just [1,1,1,...1]

[hollow bronze]

oh you're not limited to 64 in tile amounts iirc

[feral bramble]

I made a 1 by 1 world

to make manually checking it easier

[hollow bronze]

yeah ive done that

a ton

truly a pain

I've reworked AMP with a new convertor recently (its not on public amp though)

[feral bramble]

Somehow despite having 64 arrays in tileArray and tileMap
and everything in the tileMap sums up properly to 64 i still get a fuckin indexoutofboudn somehow

[hollow bronze]

and Had to rewire and rework an entire new convertor in a different language

truly an experience

[feral bramble]

What's so fucking fustertaing is that my things works. just only for the not detailed images

doing somethign that looks like this is fine

but try to insert a discord screneshot or whatever and it goes to crap

[hollow bronze]

weird

i dont think I had that issue in particular

Ive had weird duplication or glitches

[feral bramble]

I fixed all the formatting issues a while ago

[hollow bronze]

(because of code shenanigans)

[feral bramble]

no stray commas or what not

[hollow bronze]

@feral bramble what is the result of a complex image

[feral bramble]

this is the result

[feral bramble]

and this what it gives in worldbox

[feral bramble]

this is what a working one looks like

[hollow bronze]

is it a 1x1

[feral bramble]

ye

[frosty jackal]

i can look when im done eating

[frosty jackal]

which language?

[hollow bronze]

I rewrote it into c++

should be super fast

works great on large maps

[feral bramble]

noice

[hollow bronze]

my decoder doesnt like your file

[feral bramble]

oof

[hollow bronze]

An error occurred: Error -3 while decompressing data: incorrect header check

[feral bramble]

wait decompressing

it's already decompressed

I made an autosave file

map.wbax

[frosty jackal]

interesting i tried to do it in c++ but i didn't want to bother learning it

so then i learned go instead-

[hollow bronze]

lul

its convoluted and complicated

but it is good at achieving speed

[frosty jackal]

do you mind if we "race" them lmao

i want to see which is faster

[hollow bronze]

you'd need an image to compare

[frosty jackal]

could be anything

[feral bramble]

Oh yeah does it do more biomes than what amp currently does?

that's what pushed me to make my own

[frosty jackal]

amp doesn't have every biome?

[hollow bronze]

latest amp was updated ages ago

purely because of the new format

(less file size)

but wasnt updated beyond

because I wasnt bothered to maintain it

[hollow bronze]

this one just has an input that makes it fairly simple to add

[feral bramble]

oooh

so it's selectable like the image2map mod

nice

well not quite ig based on how you describe it

[hollow bronze]

easier for non programmers to just add to a text file

[frosty jackal]

@hollow bronze is this an ok image (zipped so discord doesn't ruin it)

[feral bramble]

can just use a plugin for noncompression

[barren shale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/693897754753105942/919001950413008906/image0-238.gif

[hollow bronze]

349 ms

[frosty jackal]

DAMN

[feral bramble]

wow

[frosty jackal]

i don't even need to count mine ik its slower LMAO

[feral bramble]

mf i can see that even without the highlighting

[hollow bronze]

about 1.5 seconds for discord users because it has to save and upload the file

[feral bramble]

gib

[feral bramble]

mmmm roast beef

I wanna do a world on roast beef or some goofy shit

[frosty jackal]

the red is so deep in that

[hollow bronze]

to be fair im using all tiles

[jolly field]

Rare?

[hollow bronze]

and you dont want all tiles

[frosty jackal]

oh yeah 100%

1 grey tile-

[feral bramble]

what u doing to match colors to nearest biome exactly

like what method

[hollow bronze]

plus all tiles adds to compute time

[feral bramble]

like just direct 3d distance

or the human vision corrected one

[frosty jackal]

barely any

[hollow bronze]

so actually this is probably slower than if I did it with less tiles

[jolly field]

You’d assume the opposite.

[frosty jackal]

lmao

my ego has been bruised i was proud of this program

i must rectify it

[hollow bronze]

200 ms

not using dithering so not as cool

[frosty jackal]

compression is the issue

[hollow bronze]

I spent ages reducing time

[frosty jackal]

(old screenshot)

[jolly field]

I’d eat it.

[hollow bronze]

and there are still portions that take too long but ive just lived to accept it

I have an image that takes like 3 seconds and it annoys me

[feral bramble]

oof the color method i used sucks ass

[frosty jackal]

i need to step up my game

[feral bramble]

looks similar to Igniz act ually

[frosty jackal]

what palette you all use btw

[feral bramble]

im using all biomes high and low

[frosty jackal]

i was bragging to cody about how mine was faster than a bunch of others.... not so much anymore now

[hollow bronze]

the ones on amp is just the first one ever made in 2019

with slight adjustments to fit new map standards but no code change (like major structure)

than the guy who made it

[frosty jackal]

ik i have the old source

[hollow bronze]

the guys code still pretty good though

its a fun project so its neat to see other people tackle it

[frosty jackal]

i see why the file name-

[hollow bronze]

if nothing else other than its fun

oh I have a few test images to stress test

that was one of them

[frosty jackal]

yeah i think ive done the same proccess of creating one three times it is always fun

[feral bramble]

What formulas did ya'll use for color difference

did this tbh

[hollow bronze]

uhhh

[barren shale]

use C#

use multithreading

ez fast speed

[frosty jackal]

can't with dithering

[feral bramble]

oh you dither yours

[hollow bronze]

same thing

[feral bramble]

cool

[hollow bronze]

square root of them added (and multiplied)

[barren shale]

what is dithering?

[frosty jackal]

its like

[hollow bronze]

using c++ multithreading

[feral bramble]

https://codepen.io/jamesnwasson/details/bGdgYRW

[hollow bronze]

and pretty much every speed trick

[feral bramble]

good exmaple

[barren shale]

no you are not

make it a shader

run it on the gpu

[frosty jackal]

it spreads "error" to make it look better if that makes sense its hard to describe

[hollow bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/asc-gif-22146012

[frosty jackal]

writing the compute shader rn

[hollow bronze]

im sure the bot VPS I put it on will have a massive gpu

[feral bramble]

So when using an restricted palette you either have it hella saturated, or not hella saturated and look grainy due to dither

[frosty jackal]

not an issue for the mod hehe

[hollow bronze]

in-game mod is what I'd use just cause im a steam player

makes things simpler

[feral bramble]

i want dat amp bot on new code

[hollow bronze]

i was planning on dropping it when the new update comes out

because there will be new biomes and stuff

[frosty jackal]

need to benchmark that still but its current dev version is broken beyond believe

[hollow bronze]

also reworking amp to be more modern, but its been coded by the team so much that its a lot harder and longer process

[frosty jackal]

why aren't you still on the team?

[hollow bronze]

I am technically

But people like cloud have the hot potato stuff and its probably got more code than most of the bot

[frosty jackal]

damn

[hollow bronze]

And I cant just like pop in and commit a shit ton of changes to that

and also I just dont wanna convert boring ass moderation stuff

no fun in coding that

[frosty jackal]

sounds like an annoying dilemma i can see why you have a private version

do you still pull updates from the public one

[hollow bronze]

no

its straight up just an entire rewrite

[barren shale]

How about you take speciesbox

[hollow bronze]

trust me the original AMP code is horrible

[barren shale]

And I take this ez thing

[frosty jackal]

probably for the best

[hollow bronze]

like really really bad

[barren shale]

I saw it once 💀💀

[frosty jackal]

yeah i have that code and i just

[hollow bronze]

you should see the else if section for mapsize

[frosty jackal]

i can't bring myself to look at it for longer than 5 min

now i want to see

i am going looking

[hollow bronze]

its basically if you did crack and coded all of the code in an hour and had barely any python experience

and then did it in the python ide

[frosty jackal]

i am still disapointed the bot is python

[hollow bronze]

new rewrite is still in python

but its pretty simple and straight to the point

im not much into js

and I tried C# and after making a bunch of wrappers decided I didnt want to use their API to make another API

so that I can get to the part where i actually make stuff

[frosty jackal]

💀

best comment

[frosty jackal]

fair enough

i never liked python

[hollow bronze]

fair

[frosty jackal]

this what you talking about?

[hollow bronze]

I find it simple in a bot if you're not coding a whole ass game or whatever

no but thats up there

(in terms of being god awful)

[frosty jackal]

no way

[hollow bronze]

literally the meme

[frosty jackal]

that hurts

[hollow bronze]

but for real

[next lotus]

wtf is that language

[frosty jackal]

oh wait i only got half the ifs-

the other half

[hollow bronze]

lmao

[frosty jackal]

oh wait theres two more

well you get the point

[hollow bronze]

I remember fever dreaming through that to make it align properly

[barren shale]

Python devs amirite

[next lotus]

python devs on their way to overengineer code that can be written in a single line

[barren shale]

They don’t use for loops

It’s too slow

[frosty jackal]

oh found it

[barren shale]

[frosty jackal]

also why is the code repeated twice-

[hollow bronze]

no idea

[next lotus]

yeah they have to unroll that loop to get better performance

[hollow bronze]

it was all made in a fever dream

but it does run

[frosty jackal]

know the feeling

made like 7 rewrites of a discord bot over 2 years

[hollow bronze]

Ive made a few python bots

I think a couple of js ones

I tried one C# one

[frosty jackal]

went away for a couple months, came back, was confused, and rewrote it

[hollow bronze]

yeah pretty much me every project

[frosty jackal]

i am making one rn

seems simple so far

made a simple command handler

[hollow bronze]

nice

I dont remember what library I used at this point

probably been a year or two

[next lotus]

you have to ascend to a higher plane of consciousness to write c#, thats why every c# developer is an ascended, we're basically gods at this point

[hollow bronze]

well you see im a centrist andy

so I just use the programming language thats appropriate for what im doing

[frosty jackal]

i just use whatever one i felt like at that moment-

probably the root cause of many issues

note: don't try and mess with dlls in javascript

[hollow bronze]

https://github.com/cat-milk/Anime-Girls-Holding-Programming-Books

anime girls do hold all languages though

[frosty jackal]

wheres chicken lang

this is insulting

[hollow bronze]

do a pull

[frosty jackal]

too much effort

[hollow bronze]

glad to see holyc got its representation

[frosty jackal]

LMAO

[barren shale]

speciesbox codebase for sale

0.99$

[young flume]

☠️

[barren shale]

dont tell anyone

[frosty jackal]

rip terry davis 😔

[hollow bronze]

i thought it would be fun to do Kingdoms again

[frosty jackal]

make it -0.01$ and you got a deal

[hollow bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-gif-4115569673926897153

[barren shale]

its fun but too big of a headache

[hollow bronze]

left us too soon

[barren shale]

and its so huge right now

[frosty jackal]

he is an inspiration to us all

[hollow bronze]

I just wanna rule a kingdom

and hog 90% of the map

[frosty jackal]

(what is speciesbox)

[hollow bronze]

uhh dnd maybe? I never got deep into it

[barren shale]

idk what it was supposed to be

but nikon wasnt great at making games when he made it a couple of years ago

[frosty jackal]

ooo c#

i'll take it

deal

[barren shale]

im leaking the codebase one file by one

[hollow bronze]

lmao have fun

[barren shale]

all like 400 files

[frosty jackal]

(i still don't know what it is)

[hollow bronze]

it has channels

[barren shale]

actually there's some interesting shit there

[frosty jackal]

ITS A BOT

[barren shale]

    public Task<IEnumerable<ZoneEvent>> RotateZoneAsync(Zone zone)
    {
        var statuses = _adventureRepository.GetInZone(zone.ZoneInfo.Id);

        var events = new List<ZoneEvent>();

        foreach (var status in statuses)
        {
            if (!status.IsActive)
            {
                continue;
            }

            var newPos = Random.Shared.Next(zone.ZoneObjects.Length);

            if (newPos >= zone.ZoneObjects.Length)
            {
                events.Add(new EmptyEvent()
                {
                    Id = Guid.NewGuid(),
                    ZoneId = zone.ZoneInfo.Id,
                    Adventure = status
                });

                continue;
            }

            var zoneObject = zone.ZoneObjects[newPos];

            switch (zoneObject.ObjectInfo)
            {
                case GatherableResource resource:
                    events.Add(new GatherEvent()
                    {
                        Id = Guid.NewGuid(),
                        ZoneId = zone.ZoneInfo.Id,
                        Adventure = status,
                        Resource = resource
                    });

                    break;
                case EnemyInfo enemy:
                    events.Add(new EncounterMobEvent()
                    {
                        Id = Guid.NewGuid(),
                        ZoneId = zone.ZoneInfo.Id,
                        Adventure = status,
                        EnemyInfo = enemy
                    });

                    break;
                case DungeonEntrance dungeon:
                    events.Add(new DungeonEvent()
                    {
                        Id = Guid.NewGuid(),
                        ZoneId = zone.ZoneInfo.Id,
                        Adventure = status,
                        Entrance = dungeon
                    });

                    break;
            }
        }

        return Task.FromResult((IEnumerable<ZoneEvent>)events);
    }

[hollow bronze]

yeah

dnd

[barren shale]

this function rotates the events in a zone and gives new events to the players

[hollow bronze]

I did a beta of a game idea somewhat related before SB but never got to finish it

[frosty jackal]

monsterous, putting the brackets on the next line

[hollow bronze]

where you just build up kingdoms like worldbox, collect stuff, have big faction fights

[barren shale]

as it should be you mean

[barren shale]

that's sb

[frosty jackal]

huge L

same line brackets >

microsoft has no style

[hollow bronze]

unfortunately im on team seperate lines

[barren shale]

you mean you are cool

[frosty jackal]

i bet you also support var and single line if statements

[hollow bronze]

ah neat

[barren shale]

i do

as i should

[hollow bronze]

wonder if nikon was inspired or simply wanted to do same thing (probably more likely that he thought of same idea)

[barren shale]

not the idea fraud

[frosty jackal]

i am going to be sick

[hollow bronze]

single line if?

like

[barren shale]

oh no i dont use single line if statements

that's ew

[frosty jackal]

if(true) return false;

[hollow bronze]

if (balls) { return; }

or whatever

[frosty jackal]

no brackets

[hollow bronze]

oh

yeah no thats weird

[frosty jackal]

ok good

[hollow bronze]

I like all the spaces and indents and whatnot

[frosty jackal]

that is good

that

is not good

inflated line count

[hollow bronze]

thats fine

i just do it for readability

[frosty jackal]

do you make your comments red

[hollow bronze]

im not cody

(a madman)

[frosty jackal]

LMAO

i love how you recognized that

what do you do if you have a really long condition in an if statement

[hollow bronze]

hard to miss

everytime, im just like "this hurts my eyes"

[frosty jackal]

hes just

putting errors in his code before run time

horrible