⌨coders-cave

[barren shale]

otherwise it looks pretty good

i've tried making 2d games like 100 times games in unity and i ran into the hell that unity is for 2d games

apparently its called unity3d for a reason 💀

[sly schooner]

My next stop in the planning is to optimise the chunk generation and remove inactive chunks after some time

Then I'll try to implement sprite pooiling, but I can already see how it's going to be a headache

[barren shale]

i would watch a youtube video

its not really very hard but the docs might not be the best way to learn about it

[barren shale]

as for inactive chunks i would look into how terraria does it

they have a real cool way to make inactive chunks seem active

[sly schooner]

Yeah I know about it

[barren shale]

by calculating the time between the last time it was active and the time you activate it again and then using that time to grow trees and vines and all the cool things

oh nice

also if you are going to have collisions in 2d its gonna be a big headache so get ready for that

you either have to suffer through unity's 2d physics engine which is not very good or make your own which will take some time and reading

[sly schooner]

It'll be used only on chunks where something big is happening like cities and stuff. But the rest will be just statistics or just freeze and unfreeze

[sly schooner]

There isn't going to be physics

[barren shale]

good

because that's the worse part about 2d in unity

also making things flexible which i see you are already doing from what you've said is a great benifit in the future

you seem to be doing great

i would just google anything major before i'd do it just incase there's a good way of doing it

fucking up the performance is so easy in unity and it messes up the whole game

[sly schooner]

Yeah

Thanks 👍

[knotty root]

tell me now this isnt hard coded

#center the window

width = main.winfo_screenwidth()
width = int (width)
height = main.winfo_screenheight()
height = int (height)

width2 = width / 2
width2 = int(width2)
height2 = height / 2
height2 = int (height2)

width4 = width / 4
width4 = int(width4)
height4 = height / 4
height4 = int(height4)
main.geometry(f'{width2}x{height2}+{width4}+{height4}')

i wish there is a simpler way to center the screen

[barren shale]

why the fuck do you need width / 4

the x should be screenwidth / 2 - windowwidth / 2

and the y should be the same with height

what is even this

[knotty root]

make the width of the window about half of the screen

[barren shale]

well if the width of the window is half of the screen then its gonna be screenwidth / 2 - screenwidth / 4

that's where the window should be

[knotty root]

its the half of the screen

but

x and y should be a quarter of the total screen

to place it in the center

[barren shale]

this is python right?

[barren shale]

not really

@knotty root here i tried my best 💀

here are some colors to make it easier to read

[knotty root]

thx bro!

[sweet bramble]

Ayyy another python user!!

[wet girder]

Just had a 1.5h hour meeting where I got assigned 6 jira tickets to do in 4.5 weeks

The tickets are all basically "enhance cyber security by doing this and this"

lots of fixing dumb oversights in old code

loving life

[quartz pumice]

Whar?

Isnt there a way less complicated way to do that

[barren shale]

maths

there isnt

because math

[quartz pumice]

Math bruh

[barren shale]

1+1=2

is there a less complicated way to do it

no

its math

[orchid frigate]

There is

You can memorise it

So as soon as someone asks what's 1+1

You don't have to calculate it's 2

[barren shale]

that's not a less complicated way of doing the math

because you did the math

then memorised the answer

stop being dumb

[knotty root]

cant python use a preset def to use for centering the screen

[orchid frigate]

I never did the math

I saw that you did the math

And memorised your equation

I basically stole your answer

[barren shale]

yeah but its not about the answer

its about the math

so stop being dumb

[next shell]

1+1=1+1

[paper quest]

1+1=2 moron

[hardy field]

20k damage, and next time ask in #🚑help-chat or #🌋worldbox-chat

[orchid frigate]

About 5

[orchid frigate]

It is about the answer

You asked what's a simpler way to do 1+1

And so I told you the simpler way

It is simple because it doesn't even require you to know any math

Even if you didn't know how to count you would still be able to answer the question

Thus it is simpler

[jolly field]

Literally 1984

[barren shale]

A simple way to do the math that doesn’t require doing the math

[orchid frigate]

Yes exactly

Using this method you can solve any math problem of any complexity

[barren shale]

this is not solving

[orchid frigate]

It is

You find the answer

[barren shale]

the result of solving is finding the answer

but its not the only way to find the answer

im talking about solving the problem and not finding the answer

[gilded kite]

Is worldbox using DOTS?

[quartz pumice]

Fr

Whe rust optimizer sees that shit it's gonna delete the entire variable that 1+1 was done on and then create a extremely vague compiler error because there's a missing variable in the stack that will segfault

[next lotus]

no

[orchid frigate]

Well if you want to also have some work behind the answer

You can memorise that too

[barren shale]

Solving is not memorizing

Are you dumb man

How many times do I have to say it 💀

[orchid frigate]

Yes but you can gaslight people into thinking you did solve it

Thus solving it in the eyes of the stupid

[barren shale]

Well we are not talking about that

[orchid frigate]

For instance I just tricked you into thinking I know what 1+1 is

Before your answer I had no idea however because you said it

You though I knew

And thus though I had solved it

What you didn't know is I have the IQ of an orangutan

[slim raven]

Obviously "1" + "1" = 11

[young flume]

correct, it's 11 because there's no "=" in the "1+1" question

[orchid frigate]

It's equal to an error as most languages don't allow string manipulation of this type

And if they do it would be equal to "11"

[sly schooner]

"1" += "1"

[slim raven]

I mean if you take js and Python which do, you consider most developers out there so kinda yes and no

[slim raven]

Well the visible output would be just 11 as a string but kinda yes

[orchid frigate]

You consider the part of the community that doesn't count which is the guys who wanna learn programming for the money so they watch one of those 11 hour tutorials on python, give up 20 minutes in and call themselves coders because they made a console calculator

The actually skilled people who code in these languages is like 5% of the total devs in these languages

[upbeat pine]

is there a comprehensive modding tutorial?

[quartz pumice]

JavaScript meanwhile

Did you know that {} + {"hi":0} is {"hi":0} but {"hi":0} + {} is error?

[wet girder]

Such thing doesn't exist nor will it ever exist because it's impossible. #🔧modding-talk can assist you to the right direction tho

[orchid frigate]

I have so many questions

Like why does JavaScript like brackets so much

And why is there a surprised face after the string

And why in general

Why does the language exist in general

Just replace it with something better like

Rust

Fuck it even zig atleast it will get some attention

[timid field]

Bcuz that's our face when the code works

[slim raven]

It has something to do with that all browsers won't really switch from it and it will be a mess instead of a unified web. Typescript and jQuery make it a little better tho.

[wet girder]

It makes sense tho. {} Is an empty dictionary (? No idea what it's called in JS) then if you plus {"hi":0} to it just adds a new dictionary entry. But if you add an empty dictionary to a dictionary it can't do shit

[distant wraith]

Reddit is the last place I'd think will have actual correct answers, let alone good answers

If there is, I would not expect any explanation of it

[distant wraith]

Actually, actually, "1" + "1" = "2"

[upbeat pine]

ehh, Ill just make one once I figure out how to mod 💀

already done it with multiple other modding communities that lacked directions, help, or just had a shite wiki/documentation

[wet girder]

If you already have modding experience the modding community here will be super helpful. I thought you were a complete beginner

[upbeat pine]

well even so your telling me I CANT make a tut for beginners? thats just crazy talk its very possible if you know even the basics and arent a shite educator

[wet girder]

There are some guides but they require some programming experience and basic understanding of computers. 99% of time someone asks the same question as you did they don't even know what C# is

Worldbox has been made very modder friendly over time but it's still not complete coding beginner friendly like any modding

Plus I'm not the best person to take advice from in the topic. I've never modded a single game. I just do full stack application development with .net

From this interaction I learned to just direct everyone who asks about modding straight to modders lol

[wet girder]

Ping just in case you won't notice without it

[rose pawn]

Is anyone here interested in highway intersections?

Mini motorways anyone?

[quartz pumice]

Texas highway intersections trying not to cost a gajillion dollars

[rose pawn]

Anyone know the game Freeways?

I finished it

[rose pawn]

Sweet sweet laundering

[wet girder]

I watch rce play it but never played it myself

Same with mini motorways

[rose pawn]

I know what you watch

That one engineer

I dont play mini motorways but finished freeways

[wet girder]

I love his videos

[rose pawn]

So cool

[wet girder]

I've played the mini motorways train game and it was fun af so mini motorways is probably even more fun from what I've seen

[rose pawn]

Its a good youtuber if you watch the sponsor parts too

[wet girder]

Just never got around to playing it

[rose pawn]

Oh yeah me too thays called mimimetro

Mini metro

[wet girder]

Yeah that

I really liked it

[rose pawn]

Im not good at it but still pretty epuc

[slim raven]

As a European, existence of induced demand makes playing this game impossible. I love Mini metro tho

[orchid frigate]

I guess it matters what you do

Because I only do low level shit which noone is usually interested in so noone on stack overflow has ever asked these questions and even if they have I usually need more theory than code

So I rely souly on old reddit posts and random old forums

But I have never been disappointed of reddit answers they usually don't answer the question directly but point you to where you should look to study the problem

[orchid frigate]

High level programming is a fever dream

[quartz pumice]

the more I read into uefi the more I realize how fucking shitty it is

like... why must it be so bad

its so bad that theres entire features that are changed on most systems because they dont even fucking work

I thought that they used windows things because microsoft had influence over the project.. they didnt; they were just really fucking lazy

and the uefi implementations are so fucking fucked that its a good idea to still support bios booting

and when you install windows it doesnt even bother with uefi unless you tell the installer to specifically bother with uefi

and, uefi, with all these problems, hosts developer conferences that do nothing, and just promote new softwares that nobody gives a shit about, even the softwares creators

I get that they would be tied because its a tandards.. but if you have a bad standard THEN FUCKING MAKE A NEW ONE

[distant wraith]

Programmer rage

[static solar]

Comedy has truly peaked

[next lotus]

i am red male

[slim raven]

Hmm, does anyone need a logo/app/website design or like anything? I'll do it for 5$

[fair quarry]

alright, anybody knows is there a way to start a sound by pressing on div. I mean it will launch from the path but I just need to somehow start it. Is this possible without the <button> tag? (html/css/php/mysql)

[wet girder]

Yeah it is

In js you can get the element and add on click event to it

Idk how with js tho

Probably not possible

[wet girder]

Do you really need to do it without any js?

https://www.w3schools.com/jsref/met_audio_play.asp

This tutorial is pretty good how to do it on js

You can just use divs instead of buttons if you prefer

Onclick works same for any element

[fair quarry]

oh so onclick isn't just for buttons?

good to know, thank you jupe

[wet girder]

Yeah but it's not best practice. Doesn't matter for personal projects but if you ever do professional projects you should rather just make your buttons look different with css

[fair quarry]

yeah, i understand that. The thing is, the button I use is made using divs, so I just don't want to re-create it - I really like how it looks

Thanks again

[upbeat pine]

Im trying to get a character to be able to cast a spell from his hands or just basically not have to have the staff:

public static bool tryToCastSpell(AttackData pData)
  {
    Actor a = pData.initiator.a;
    BaseSimObject pTarget = pData.target;
    Spell spell = AssetManager.spells.get(a.asset.attack_spells.GetRandom<string>());
    if (!Toolbox.randomChance(spell.chance))
      return false;
    if (spell.castTarget == CastTarget.Himself)
      pTarget = (BaseSimObject) a;
    if (spell.castEntity == CastEntity.BuildingsOnly)
    {
      if (pTarget.isActor())
        return false;
    }
    else if (spell.castEntity == CastEntity.UnitsOnly && pTarget.isBuilding())
      return false;
    float num = (float) a.data.health / (float) a.getMaxHealth();
    if ((double) spell.healthPercent != 0.0 && (double) spell.healthPercent <= (double) num || (double) spell.min_distance != 0.0 && (double) Toolbox.DistTile(a.currentTile, pTarget.currentTile) < (double) spell.min_distance)
      return false;
    bool castSpell = false;
    if (spell.action != null)
      castSpell = spell.action.RunAnyTrue((BaseSimObject) a, pTarget, pTarget.currentTile);
    if (castSpell)
      a.doCastAnimation();
    return castSpell;
  }

I found this in the combat_action_library but I dont know how i might use it especially AttackData I dont know what that param is exactly (im new to modding) anybody know? Anybody done a trait that can cast magic

[orchid frigate]

Noone here knows try #🔧modding-talk

Also

Please rename to TryCastSpell or smt

The "To" tickles me in a bad way

[distant wraith]

😳

[wet girder]

Oh gosh that function naming is painful

I've never before seen a function with the word to

and I never hope to see it again

and the camelcase 🤮

PascalCase is what you're meant to use in C#

and it's so much better

https://www.c-sharpcorner.com/UploadFile/8a67c0/C-Sharp-coding-standards-and-naming-conventions/

[orchid frigate]

Why shouldn't you use specific int types

That seems far too strict

[wet girder]

that's a great question

does make sense tho in a way

[orchid frigate]

I guess it's because not native

But even then I doubt that's going to be that big of a deal

[wet girder]

yeah it's not gonna matter that much

[orchid frigate]

These naming conventions in general feel far too strict like

Isn't that kinda destroying creativity in code for the sake of readability

But then I guess it's for work purposes

And professional coding

[wet girder]

I have to use them at work. But we do have like over a million line codebase so it makes sense that it should be as clean as possible

probably more like couple million of lines honestly

[lapis flint]

Yes

I use camel case for private fields and pascal case for public ones, don't like that underscore case

[wet girder]

I've never used underscore before private variables. None of my coworkers do either so it's fine

[orchid frigate]

Isn't underscore for variables that aren't going to be used

In snake case that's the case anyway

Pun lightly intended but not too much

[wet girder]

No

[distant wraith]

Regex my beloved

[quartz pumice]

I think in C it's for libraries and underscores are variables you shouldn't change

[orchid frigate]

Wouldn't that just be constants

[quartz pumice]

no, it would be that only the library is supposed to touch

struct Sprite {
  V3 pos;
  void *_renderdata
}```

[upbeat pine]

Thats not my function 🙀 its the devs

[rose pawn]

My python code gave this does anyone know why

  File "C:\Users\DELL\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\bs4\__init__.py", line 435
    warnings.warn(
MarkupResemblesLocatorWarning: The input looks more like a filename than markup. You may want to open this file and pass the filehandle into Beautiful Soup.```

[static solar]

Please, show us the line, that causes the error 🙏

[quartz pumice]

I think you gave it a filename instead of a file handle

its not opensource tho

😦

[static solar]

😭

[rose pawn]

Ah shit i dont have the code with me

[rose pawn]

I cant show it

[static solar]

Sad

[orchid frigate]

How do you have the error

But not the code

[rose pawn]

Long story

I made my dad work the code for me cuz i dont have my laptop with me

And then he sent the result

Ok not long

[hollow perch]

hey guys i have a question:

can i learn c sharp while modding or do i need to learn it seperately frist

[distant wraith]

Do whatever you want; there's no law against it

[wet girder]

It's possible. If you know some language already then it's very doable but if you don't know any coding at all I'd recommend learning in w3school first and then modding

but that's just a recommendation

[next lotus]

i know people who accepted a job, started with no knowledge on that job and learned while making it

[distant wraith]

I hope they weren't a surgeon

[static solar]

No, operator of a nuclear powerplant

[somber basin]

Hello

[static solar]

Hello

[somber basin]

What did I missed?

[static solar]

Quite literally nothing

[somber basin]

Ok

Gun

[static solar]

Sir, this is #⌨coders-cave

Not #🌎general

[somber basin]

Oh no🫡

Ok bye

[quartz pumice]

thats how it works

nuclear physicists want too much of a salary so they pick up random people off the street and train them

[static solar]

I was talking about 0 prior experience and training

[orchid frigate]

Chernobyl moment

[quartz pumice]

Chernobyl was a design issue 💀

AZ-5 was supposed to turn it off but the designers had a skill issue

[slim raven]

You can literally just copy paste parts of other's mods if you are savage enough

[slim raven]

It was also a big disaster of the Soviet government who didn't really alarm anyone and tried to hide it, also people were told that the evacuation was temporary and they'll come back

My parents also say that some gotten like special permits depending on when after Chernobyl they were born and it basically allowed them some stuff like going to summer camps for free but that's not a worthy compensation and just a cover-up of the crumbling USSR

[quartz pumice]

That would be cool

[slim raven]

We're actually in range of another disaster like this. The Zaporushya atomic plant is occupied by russians and was mined (with explosives) miltiple times, the 5th, 4th and 3rd reactors are also not fully off to blackmail us so they might blow it up. They also don't let IAEA in some places which is insanely sus. But I think it's unlikely that they would do something like this cuz that'll hurt them too and a lot.

Yeah this is absolutely off topic from coding

[quartz pumice]

if any mod asks we are discussing an implementation of nuclear power plants

[quartz pumice]

I dont think they can turn them on though

I doubt the plants are designed to be able to run a reactor without having like 20 megawatts of stable power

unless they like never turned off (but the power plant operators wouldve turned it off if the russians were coming close ?)

[tame dragon]

Anyone play around with pygame?

class Star:
    colours = [RED, BLUE, YELLOW, WHITE]
    
    def __init__(self, size):
        self.size = size
        self.x = choice(range(1, HEIGHT))
        self.y = choice(range(1, HEIGHT))
        self.image = pygame.draw.circle(screen, choice(self.colours), (self.x, self.y), random.randint(1, self.size))
        self.star_count = []

and the game loop function

def main():

    global clock
    
    deltatime = 60
    star = Star(6)
        
    for starz in range(40):
        star.star_count.append(star.image)

    while True:
        clock.tick(deltatime)
        screen.fill(BLACK)

        screen.blit(star.star_count, (300, 300))
        pygame.display.update()

        for event in pygame.event.get():
            if event.type == pygame.QUIT:
                pygame.quit()

When I loop through and append each instance, it isnt generating random x and y positions. Or size values. And the "screen" variable gets written down as a single value, I'm assuming the X position value. Which raises an error for .blit()

[<rect(362, 422, 10, 10)>, <rect(362, 422, 10, 10)>, <rect(362, 422, 10, 10)>, <rect(362, 422, 10, 10)>, <rect(362, 422, 10, 10)>]

Even if I do a for loop to loop through the list after it gets all the instances appended, itll still raise a .blit() error

[knotty root]

What error are you getting

[tame dragon]

Idk but fuck that error

Says first argument in blit() has to be a pygame.surface.Surface()

So I just created 40 instances of the class manually, manually added them to a list and drew them instead. I've no time for debugging, I'm lazy

It's a lil laggy but I'll manage

[orchid frigate]

So you decided to instead of spending 5 minutes to debug the error

To manually do all the work instead

Because of being lazy

That's some next level shit

[slim raven]

Nuclear software engineering

[slim raven]

They have power lines going there, and we keep repairing these, not sure why tho

[slim raven]

I heard PyGame is kinda bad 🤔 although that was a while ago.

[orchid frigate]

It's not bad it's just

Not made for use as a game engine

It's made for learning

Introduction for game development and coding

And small graphics projects

[quartz pumice]

Schools and their "computer science" classes

My teacher was very very chill she let us play games all day

[tame dragon]

It was WAY WAY longer than 5 minutes, so I decided to do that and go to sleep

If the manual version works why dont the automated one work since its literally the same

[tame dragon]

I prefer godot but pygame has fun modules to play around with

Well python has a lot of fun modules, like pymunk

[civic finch]

Who knows how to add runner button on visual studio code

[tame dragon]

fuck vsc

[wet girder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwbEIpVkTpA&ab_channel=AbhiRaj

do you mean like this?

[civic finch]

thank you

[quartz pumice]

atleast its not vs

[wet girder]

I like vs

what

[civic finch]

Did not succeed

[upbeat pine]

Does anyone know of any free alternatives to the chat GPT API, I need to use it in an Django application

[next lotus]

host your own llm

[barren shale]

it will either suc in comparison or it will be too expensive to run

its basically impossible to run something as good as chatgpt at a good speed without like a 4090 or something

[lapis flint]

There is no public models like gpt

[distant wraith]

https://huggingface.co/gpt2

[lapis flint]

Its even not near

I tried

I also tried gpt 2.5

Very bad

[distant wraith]

GPT is GPT, you didn't mention ChatGPT explicitly 🤷

[lapis flint]

I meant like gpt 3.5 or better

[chrome sentinel]

what do you use instead

[tame dragon]

Pycharm or sublime

[chrome sentinel]

Ive heard of sublime

whats good about Pycharm

[quartz pumice]

nothingl ol

I think theres some AI features

and it feels good

but nothing that can compare with vsc

[quartz pumice]

"Yes it is my hobby"

[shut hare]

[wet girder]

PyCharm is good if you really need an IDE for python. Which imo isn't required as python is a scripting language and for scripting there's no reason to use and IDE

You can get everything required into VSC

I don't understand tho how anyone likes to code with plain text editor like sublime or even vim

[wet girder]

Checked my next tickets in the sprint at work and looks like I am not gonna be writing any code this week

I have to study what components need to be updated then I gotta check errors from logs and make tickets out of new errors and then I gotta study anti-debugging methods

gonna be the most boring week ngl

before this I had to do unit tests

so that wasn't much better anyway lol

[static solar]

Imma start to learn C#

[wet girder]

I'd recommend checking out https://www.w3schools.com/

they have good C# tutorials

[distant wraith]

W3Schools doesn't have a very good reputation about its tutorial quality, in the Python community anyway

[wet girder]

the C# courses and web courses are peak

[static solar]

Bought a book for it

But thanks!

[distant wraith]

Story time!

Sometimes I wonder what kind of dataset they used to make this thing

[next lotus]

skill issue

[wet girder]

Actual interaction with clyde today

[wet girder]

The bot is actually insane

[mossy cedar]

Just a thought. Is it possible to run AAA games purely in a browser like those browser games?

[quartz pumice]

Yes and no lol

webgl I don't think has any limitations

But webassembly would probably be very limiting on Chrome

Wasm is 1.95-11.71 times faster than JavaScript on Firefox on a desktop.

On Chrome it's severely limited thoug

So.. yes and no

I know that there is a Minecraft 1.9 you could use in browser and even has multiplayer, but the official website for it was taken down last year by Microsoft

[ancient rose]

Is it possible to add mods support to mobile version of the game?

[hardy field]

It is very unlikely, and the correct channels would be #🌋worldbox-chat #🚑help-chat or #🔧modding-talk

[remote wraith]

How tf do i talk with that bot

[wet girder]

dm @Clyde to me and then dm the bot when it answers to you

[remote wraith]

What

[wet girder]

dm me @Clyde and when Clyde answers dm it

you can also do @Clyde and question in gcs

[quartz pumice]

dm this @cerulean fog

thats clydes actual ping

lol

[quartz pumice]

WHY IS RUST TAKING UP TWO FUCKING GIGABYTES OF SPACE ON MY COMPUTER

WHAT THE FUCK

Rust is bloatware

[iron rivet]

clyde isnt real

[iron rivet]

2 gbs of storage or ram, both is not alot

[quartz pumice]

it is alot

2 gigabytes of my ram would be 1/8'th of it

[iron rivet]

bro its usally ment to take up 10 gibs

[quartz pumice]

WHAT THE FUCK

[iron rivet]

either youve got some revolutionary ddr550

[quartz pumice]

gcc only takes up a few megabytes

[iron rivet]

or your lying

[quartz pumice]

and in memory its the size of the program plus a few hundred bytes

[quartz pumice]

I dont

what

2 gigabytes of space for rust

on my computer

rust a fucking cli compiler

[iron rivet]

ok mate

you either are trolling or know nothing about pc's

[quartz pumice]

why is gcc 619 megabytes

bruh

[old mural]

@old mural

[old mural]

yes how can i help you

[barren shale]

bruh do you download gcc every week or something

[quartz pumice]

pretty much yeah 😦

it breaks every week by itself

[shut hare]

[safe prawn]

did you forget your pills today?

[old mural]

well

just wanted to see

[old mural]

tbh i had nothing to say to that

[civic finch]

after 3 mounth in learn PROGRAMMING this my level I make this simple app at 2 hour

No bullying, and also tell me what I should add or improve

[cerulean silo]

Urdu+ English wat

[barren shale]

that's arabic

[civic finch]

??

[upbeat pine]

Nice, Also I'm pretty sure there are plugins to make your code text set to the language you want, not sure if that might be easier.

[knotty root]

i have a few suggestions

Try to only import the specific things you'll need from your modules (for example: from pystyle import Write, Colors) This makes your code cleaner and easier to understand
Do not use python's OOP for any serious projects. It's slow, cumbersome, and it just sucks
I recommend you use functions more often. Lines 4-18 could easily be turned into a reusable function

overall i think you're doing great! good luck

[distant wraith]

What do you mean Do not use python OOP for any serious projects

Any good projects that is huge often uses OOP

And classes don't slow anything down

What's more is that OOP is recommended when developing a project, or you'd be using pure dictionaries to store data

[knotty root]

PYTHON oop sucks

python specifically

oop is great in other languages

my bad i should have clarified that

[distant wraith]

How so

[knotty root]

as i said before, its incredibly slow

it has no private/public variables or functions

[distant wraith]

Where did you get that information

[knotty root]

a simple google search

[distant wraith]

Notthing in Python is secret, even functions, modules, ...

[knotty root]

Whats your point

[distant wraith]

OOP is good 🤷

[knotty root]

It is

just not in python

[distant wraith]

How then

[knotty root]

python really just lacks a lot of the features a fully oop language has, like c#

[distant wraith]

Like what

[knotty root]

i gave a few examples here

i dont have a list that states every single feature lacking

[distant wraith]

What's the point of private functions and variables

[knotty root]

oookay

[distant wraith]

In Python, you can just implement the __getattr__ magic method of a class to prevent someone accessing something

[knotty root]

i dont plan to keep arguing about this

if you want to know why it's not really great google is right at your fingertips

good night 😁

[distant wraith]

Nothing

And the fact that you already gave up arguing already shown that you have no actual points

And you wouldn't use Python anyway if you need that crazy speed where even a single extra nanosecond is a huge slowdown

Perfect

[safe prawn]

Me after watching:

[barren shale]

i do think big python projects are hard to maintain

[wet girder]

python is messy. OOP in python is just not as clean as it is in actual programming languages like C#

python is good at scripting

[orchid frigate]

Le bronzo

Cargo is way better than gcc

And rust is way bigger than C or C++

Also the projects are also huge

An average project is a few gb İ think

Cargo is so advanced it has its own mini package manager

Plus for rust even 10gb are good

Peak language

Zig is also fun but feels like what c++ should have been

[wet girder]

how, this isa whole ass backend project at work written in C# and it's 16MB

not a very big backend tho apparently as the main project I work on is this big (both backend and frontend)

[orchid frigate]

The project includes all the crates

[wet girder]

what's crate

are they like libraries in python and packages in c#?

[wet girder]

Just realized why this is so small. I've never built this project so it has only the code

if I had built it would have all the packages and shit

[orchid frigate]

İf you don't use crates

İt's small

İf you do

İt's huge

[orchid frigate]

Basically

And they are all compiled with the program

All it takes is a few huge crates to bloat the project

[wet girder]

makes sense

[orchid frigate]

A crate can even be a whole ass game engine

They are usually a few gb

[civic finch]

I will try thank you

[civic finch]

Thank you for the tips and for the motivation, thank you

[barren shale]

bruh

each character is one byte

that's 1 billion character

i dont think that's a thing

[wet girder]

This is a real project at work tho

I checked and like 2GB of that is files from building the project

[barren shale]

yeah

when you build it it gets a lot heavier

but it sohuldnt be gbs before you build

[orchid frigate]

İ meant after build

Obviously

[barren shale]

well nobody cares about after build

there are a lot of temporary files for optimization that you can delete

the program after its been built shouldnt be in the gigabytes either

[orchid frigate]

İt fits an entire game engine in a crate

With a renderer and everything

İt's a pretty normal size for such a project

[barren shale]

its still code

code is very light

the heavy part of most programs is textures

and security

this is 7k lines of code

in C# built

even if you add the .net runtime which is like 200 mb

this is like 250 mb for 7k lines of code

so if you had 70k lines of code it would be around 600-700 mbs

oh this is 7k lines of code + discord.net + 2 more packages for drawing and logging

[orchid frigate]

İ get it

Rust is huge

But İ still like it

İt's very fun to code in

Fav language

[barren shale]

its not huge

you are probably calculating the size in a wrong way

maybe including files that are not needed

[wet girder]

rust is not huge

definetly not

[quartz pumice]

https://github.com/MiniDigger/eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[twin sonnet]

Guys, tell me how to install mods for the mobile version of the worldbox

[stark garnet]

You can't

[naive sonnet]

You cant

[timid field]

You cannot at the moment

[wicked spindle]

You can’t

[timid field]

Nobody implemented such a thing yet

[keen juniper]

the impossible question

[stark garnet]

I beat you guys hwre

[timid field]

Time to bribe mods to dekete ur message

[stark garnet]

Mod abuse

[quartz pumice]

Whar

[shut hare]

[rose pawn]

Coders cave, coders in da cave

[shut hare]

[junior pollen]

I have never written a line of code in my life

[waxen nexus]

K

[orchid frigate]

It's impossible

[wet girder]

https://i.imgur.com/FoH6oZM.gif

[pulsar jackal]

Can you download world in mobile worldbox

[lapis flint]

Yes

~maps @pulsar jackal

Whats wrong with this bot here

[quartz pumice]

It doesn't like you

[sick verge]

Does anyone know anything when it comes to tech support? I'm trying to manage my low disk space and if someone can help me with that then that would greatly be appreciated.

[distant wraith]

Tech support scams?

[rose pawn]

No they mean support my tech

[dreamy vortex]

🧐

Hmm

[sick verge]

Mhm, I'm trying to clear out my disk space. I watched a video about doing it but I guess I just want to make sure I'm not screwing up my pc

First thing I did was head to this PC and right clicked Windows C: and clicked properties.

[orchid frigate]

Want space?

Delete shit

Anything you can

And that you installed and isn't a system file

System deletable shit is too little to be considered worth deleting

That's the only way

Also don't worry about screwing up your PC unless you have important files on your windows you can't do anything that actually damages the hardware

Worst case scenerio you have to reinstall windows

[wet girder]

First step of freeing up space could be making proper backups of important files

that way you could technically just reinstall windows if it comes to that

[orchid frigate]

Another way of cleaning the disk is

Buying a new one

10/10 way would recommend

[wet girder]

bad way

I have so much useless shit on my pc and I should really reinstall windows but damn am I too lazy to do that

[orchid frigate]

If you got to this point now

You will end up like this again

Might as well buy your way out of the problem

[wet girder]

I've been telling myself I'm gonna be buying new pc soon so I don't need to reinstall windows yet

but I never do buy the new pc

I've planned on buying it for over a year now

[orchid frigate]

Reinstalling windows is fun tho because you start fresh

It's all fast and shit

[wet girder]

you should reinstall windows periodically anyway

[orchid frigate]

Not touched by garbage downloads

But then you have like 300gb in games

That you have to reinstall

And that's just pain

Plus extra software you use that you don't remember the entirety off so you end up spending like a month downloading shit

So you end up in the same place as before

What a loop

[knotty root]

Just store a text file with all the apps you used before in an external drive

better yet you can use chocolatey to install them all

[orchid frigate]

Problem is I don't even know them in my normal windows installation

I'm so disorganized I have no idea what I use but I use something

Plus installing them takes even more time and manual labor

[knotty root]

unless you've installed every app on your computer as a portable app you can just look at all your apps in settings

[orchid frigate]

I don't mean that kinda apps

I mean some random programs that I used once for some project that took a shit ton of time to find and install

And will probably need again in the future

[knotty root]

ok maybe you're fucked

[orchid frigate]

Dont worry I will figure it out

I have done this before

I need to reinstall everything anyway because I need to move windows to the SSD so I will just reinstall everything

[knotty root]

oh ok

by the way i recommend you use the tiny11 builder on your windows iso

i can't post the github link here but it removes a lot of the bloatware in windows

i also like to use rufus to skip logging in with my microsoft account forcefully

[next lotus]

yo wtf

i can call js scripts right in c# wtff

wtf man

this is insane, this will kill reactjs fr

[barren shale]

this is like 3 years old

and no it wont

[orchid frigate]

Bro JavaScript syntax is a mentally challenging experience to watch

[lapis flint]

Lol, you did a lot of mistakes in word python

[wet girder]

well neither of they have the most enjoyable syntax ngl

[orchid frigate]

Nah but what is going on in that first const

Random symbols everywhere

Wtf is "${user.email}"

[lapis flint]

its not js syntax

[orchid frigate]

That's just fucking witchcraft

[lapis flint]

its framework syntax i guess

[orchid frigate]

Oh so frameworks have their own syntax

[lapis flint]

No

Its a row

[orchid frigate]

I'm so happy I never decided to do webdev

[lapis flint]

Inside ` and `

[orchid frigate]

This shit is too much

[lapis flint]

$ is a function name of that framework

So there is function $ with row parameter

[orchid frigate]

Function $

There is a function $

[lapis flint]

Yes

[wet girder]

That's what you got a problem with?

[orchid frigate]

Yes

[wet girder]

C# has a similar thing and Imo it's awesome

[orchid frigate]

What's with the "

Is that a string or smy

[lapis flint]

Its a jquery i guess

[orchid frigate]

And a function $

[lapis flint]

$ is a jquery function to select html node

[wet girder]

ye it's jquery

jquery is awesome

[lapis flint]

And row inside ` and ` is node selector

[wet girder]

It looks messy af but I love it

[barren shale]

frameworks use thigns like curly brackets and dollar signs to differeniate between the use of different technologies within the same file

in blazor you can use C# and html and javascript in one file

[rose pawn]

Kick code 😎 Write ass 🫵

[old mural]

yes indeed

[silent root]

C#, Java and rust are ass

[orchid frigate]

Least obvious troll

[silent root]

There is nothing "trolly" about what i said

[static solar]

The entire message is rage bait

[barren shale]

cant expect anything less in discord

i mean java is ass

but yeah

[orchid frigate]

@static solar what's the savior role

[knotty root]

Temporary drip

[rose pawn]

Good observation

Not necessarily true but yeah its common in discord

1 out of 5 messages i send here is rage bait lmao and u guys fall for it XD ‼️‼️‼️

Btw java sucks ass python is superior

[oblique inlet]

Python is amazing

I don’t care if it is slow

It’s readability and easy learning curve are unparalleled

[wet girder]

It's not readable at all

C# is readable

[distant wraith]

Python has a very easy and readable syntax if you ask me

[wet girder]

Only when you do simple stuff

Anything more complex and it becomes impossible to read

[barren shale]

yeah i have to agree

especially with arrays

you need to know what every symbol mean if you wanna read that shit

and there are a lot of them

[dreamy vortex]

I was wondering why #🌎general was so dead

Hey Hamza, Hey Jupe

[wet girder]

heya

[dreamy vortex]

hi

at work?

[wet girder]

on lunch break rn

[dreamy vortex]

oh nice

whats for lunch?

[wet girder]

I got some meatballs from downstairs. They make the best meatballs and I couldn't help myself even tho I ate them last thursday as well

[dreamy vortex]

nice!

[orchid frigate]

It's readable if you already know it's oop otherwise like reading an alien language

[wet girder]

you just gotta not have skill issue and it's very readable

[orchid frigate]

I guess that's true

But anyone volunteraly writing c# has a skill issue

So that creates a paradox

[wet girder]

I volunteraly write it

it's a good language

[orchid frigate]

I'm sorry to have to diagnose you

😞

[wet girder]

plus it makes me 💰💰 💰

[orchid frigate]

If used professionally sure

Personally

Hell no

[wet girder]

I've made like 13 grand before taxes writing c#

or more I don't really know

I know I never saw 31% of my income because taxes and työeläkemaksu which I don't know the name of in english

[orchid frigate]

Only 31%?!?!

Finland really is a fucking heaven

Oh NVM Bulgaria is somehow 10% according to the first google result

I don't really trust it but our employers pay us about the same as in third world countries so I guess it's probably accurate

A 9-5 job here pays like 900lv a month which is about 450euro

[wet girder]

I have an above average junior .net full stack developer starting salary of 2700€ a month which after taxes and työeläkemaksu is 2 153€

average salary in finland is like 3200€ and median is like 2900€

[orchid frigate]

Can't we just like give Bulgaria to Finland

Our government is so shit I don't think we even have one can't we just be Finland

[wet girder]

isn't your president a putinist?

[orchid frigate]

He is alot of things

[wet girder]

I googled and he is a putinist

[orchid frigate]

When zelwnsky came he basically said "fuck you I barely have enough ammo for myself how do you expect me to give you"

[wet girder]

would not want to live there

[orchid frigate]

Tbh he is kinda right we don't have enough equipment to defend ourselves how does Ukraine expect us to supply

Smh

But still if we become Finland

We wouldny have to buy the cheapest shit the world haa

It would be so cool

[wet girder]

Finns don't like bulgaria because of the president

[orchid frigate]

We will become finns on paper

Only government yk

So that we can take the pros from having a good government

But we may rebel as for some reason we are Patriotic af and prefer to live in a corrupt Bulgarian government than anything else

[wet girder]

would not call the current government good, the far right got voted into the government and the government hasn't been able to do anything after that

plus 2 of our ministers are very clear racists

and 1 is a sexual predator

[orchid frigate]

It's better than us we literally didn't have a government for 2 years because every government we voted for sucked to the point they had to be thrown out

[wet girder]

we had a good government before

but I do not trust this one

[orchid frigate]

I'm not even joking

[wet girder]

that's bad

[orchid frigate]

They had absolutely no idea what they were doing it was like a south park episode

[wet girder]

well we basically haven't had a government for 4 months now. They're unable to do anything because of the racism and sexual predator things

[orchid frigate]

They also literally fought in the congress room or whatever on camera

Full fists and everything

[wet girder]

damn

ngl hoping that our current government resigns we get an actual functioning government

I could list things for hours why but I gotta go work

so cya

[orchid frigate]

Aight cya

[main stag]

you’re Bulgarian?

[dreamy vortex]

??????????????

is he?

[distant wraith]

I don't see how that would be exclusive to Python

[distant wraith]

Like what?

[wet girder]

Well amp has quite a lot of complex stuff. Json handling for example is quite messy in Python, or well discord bots in general

[distant wraith]

You mean getting items like

map_dat["saveVersion"]

[barren shale]

python is not made for very complex stuff

it is not fast and it gets messy fast

interpreted languages are ingeneral good for scripting and small things

or embedded systems

[distant wraith]

Can't deny that

[barren shale]

just use the right language for the right application

and any language is viable

im not gonna use rust to make an api that gets called 5 times every minute

im gonna use nextjs because it allows me to host it for free

[next shell]

What were they thinking when they made Python

“Hmm yes snake coding language go brrr”

[distant wraith]

What were they thinking when they made C-Sharp

[wet girder]

C++ but add another ++ to it

Makes complete sense

[distant wraith]

Python++ when

[next shell]

Hehe let’s name our coding language after a note

https://tenor.com/view/c-sharp-users-be-ike-gif-26316458

[wet girder]

It's not named after note, C# is C++++ but the plusses are in a 2x2 grid

So it becomes #

[next shell]

But why

Why not give it a normal nsme

[wet girder]

Funny?

[next shell]

It’s a grid

[barren shale]

bruh what programming language has a normal name

haha lets name a language after a letter

haha lets name a language after an animal

haha lets name a language after oxidized iron

[old mural]

haha lets name a language after an island

[orchid frigate]

Isn't C named C because of compiled or compiler

Nvm it's called c because it was the successor of another language called B

[orchid frigate]

Да

[knotty root]

Mojo

[barren shale]

mojo isnt really python++

its built for AI

its pytorch++

[knotty root]

closest approximation

you could probably use it for other things as well though

[barren shale]

not optimal though

its like using the GPU for binary calculations

[knotty root]

python but fast is a pretty big deal i think

maybe it wont just stay as an AI thing

[barren shale]

yeah but its fast because it runs in parallel

[knotty root]

then the closest thing to python++ i can think of is nim

[distant wraith]

Flatliner, this is extremely cool

[wet girder]

But why...

[distant wraith]

One line

[wet girder]

Oneliners are fun when you make them yourself

But why use a tool for it. Takes out all the fun of making shitty code

[distant wraith]

I just like to see one line codes, but don't like making one myself 🤷

[barren shale]

one line codes are the ugliest thing to ever exist

imagine having to debug a one line code

[wet girder]

It's ugly and impractical but they're fun to make

Me and one of my friend used to challenge each other to do them

He used js so it was a bit easier for him than my C#

[next lotus]

so basically, an obfuscator?

[next lotus]

i feel superior compressing 100 lines of code into a single linq line so no one can understand the shit i wrote

[wet girder]

Pretty bad obfuscator as turning code into a one liner takes a huge hit in performance

[jolly field]

I don’t know any coding. That’s why I’m the evil catlover.

[next shell]

Youdon

[orchid frigate]

Nothing that you said made any sense

[jolly field]

Does it have to?

[orchid frigate]

Yes

For a proper communication environment one must make sense

Or something complicated like that

[jolly field]

Tell me then what didn’t make sense?

[orchid frigate]

You aren't a catlover you are a dog lover

[karmic summit]

both are good

just that cats ignore you and treat you like shit

[jolly field]

Yeah but I feel like it doesn’t get the point across, that I am the evil version of catlover

[main stag]

cat lover is the evil version of you

[jolly field]

Kinda true actually

[knotty root]

oh my fucking god LOL

[dreamy vortex]

Real

[shut hare]

[pearl terrace]

Hello

[slim raven]

lmaooo

[dawn grail]

Why is there some random Indian music

[dreamy vortex]

This album is so fire 🔥

[rigid heart]

This image is fake,guys)

"Butterfly",lol

[burnt marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-typing-typing-on-computer-computer-work-laptop-gif-21481919

[rose pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-cat-typing-typing-cat-thank-goodness-gif-16601149

[distant wraith]

You're not a true Python programmer if you never listen to Indian music

[hardy field]

If you think that's bad, check Chicky's bio

[wet girder]

It's lovely

[shut hare]

[dreamy vortex]

Ur mom

[jolly field]

You’re resorting to sending messages in almost all chats to get that exp?

SMH

[dreamy vortex]

What?

When did I say I was doing that

[sweet bramble]

Nah but fr you gotta change your bio wth mannn ☠️

[quartz pumice]

@orchid frigate someone is trying to make a os in kotlin

[dreamy vortex]

Nah I’m good

[sweet bramble]

I was talking about catlover

[dreamy vortex]

Ohh

[hollow lily]

import numpy as np
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
from matplotlib.animation import FuncAnimation

Set up the figure and axis

fig, ax = plt.subplots()
ax.set_aspect('equal')
ax.axis('off')

Define parameters

a = 0.0
b = 0.2

Function to generate points for the spiral

def generate_spiral(t):
r = a + b * t
x = r * np.cos(t)
y = r * np.sin(t)
return x, y

Initialize the plot

line, = ax.plot([], [], lw=2)

Animation function

def animate(i):
t = np.linspace(0, 10 * np.pi, 1000)
x, y = generate_spiral(t + 0.1 * i)
line.set_data(x, y)
return line,

Create animation

ani = FuncAnimation(fig, animate, frames=200, interval=50, blit=True)

Display the animation

plt.show()

This code creates an animated spiral pattern that evolves over time. It utilizes the matplotlib library for plotting and animation. You can customize the parameters a and b to achieve different spiral patterns. Simply copy and paste this code into a Python interpreter or script, and you'll be able to see the animated spiral on your screen.

[upbeat otter]

Oh really good

Congratulations ✌️

[distant wraith]

Tried Stable Diffusion XL 👍

[rose pawn]

I thought

this text

Wasnt posssible

[rose pawn]

Woah

cool

[steady flare]

hello

[next shell]

Morning

[dreamy vortex]

@jolly field stop clogging automod

[jolly field]

You’re a bit late

[dreamy vortex]

Don’t bypass tho

[distant wraith]

[next lotus]

man

[distant wraith]

Woman

[halcyon frost]

farcry 5 devs be like: i swear ong farcry 5 is so buggy i can literly glitch under the map when boating on land or driving into mountains or skydiving into water.

[whole nest]

Far cry 6 is way more buggy - you don't even have to do anything for the game to glitch tf out - not like it happens all the time, but often enough to be noticeable

[orchid frigate]

Have you seen the os dev barebones page

There are so many random languages

C# is there

Go is there

Pascal

D has three bare bones pages

Tbh D doesn't look bad it looks like good c++

[wet girder]

Everyone in IT be like

[next shell]

IT mfs are built different

[young flume]

🤣

[mossy cedar]

IT mfers be earning six figures while looking like shaggy

[wet girder]

Damn I hate working during summer vacation time. My boss just called me and started asking about production updates to cloud because she never does them but neither do I so I just awkwardly started figuring out with her wtf my coworkers do when they release to cloud

It felt more like I was the rubber ducky. She kept talking and I had no idea what was going on

[jolly field]

Usually computer rooms are cold

Freezing actually

🥶

[rose pawn]

Then good

What do computer rooms being cold have to do with the image

Maybe im dumb

[jolly field]

I’m just doing one of my old man stories

[rose pawn]

👨‍🦳

[dreamy vortex]

👴

[distant wraith]

It's a markup language

[wet girder]

It's literally in the name

Hyper Text Markup Language

[wet girder]

Pro tip of the day. If you want to a software development job you should learn REST APIs and how to use Postman. Everything uses REST APIs nowadays

[rose pawn]

What does the attribute: and request: parts do in / wyr command

[barren shale]

Which is not the best way to handle most things

But people will still use them for there 100 request per hour apps

[wet girder]

Well yes but it gets you paid

[barren shale]

I guess

[wet girder]

At work we don't do useless APIs tho. We try to have as little requests as possible because some of our clients customers are in countries with shitty internet and the software won't work well if we do million api calls. So all API work I do at work is actually useful and I create optimized APIs

The senior devs will be quick to point out if something is not optimized enough

[rain cloud]

Playing fnf on roblox on a xbox is something i thought i would not be doing at 4am but here i am

But anyways

Hello chat

[orchid frigate]

Wrong chat

[wet girder]

You don't

Lua is not the best language for any other case other than some in video game coding like stormworks or well even gmod

Someone's gonna say Roblox but Roblox is an inferior way of doing game development

@knotty root don't ghost ping people

[knotty root]

blud i was checking his role

[wet girder]

That's not the way to do it tho. You could've just done ?whois ping in #🤖bot-commands and no harm done

[knotty root]

ok

[orchid frigate]

Yea only high levels can ghost ping it's common knowledge

[wet girder]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-no-way-no-disagree-hell-no-gif-15861629

[orchid frigate]

I love it when my code starts looking like a rainbow because there is so much going on

[barren shale]

this is called unclean code

you shouldnt have more than 2 indentations

split it into multiple functions

[orchid frigate]

why would I do that when its indentation is about a line long

its a state machine so it kinda has to look like that

[barren shale]

nuh uh

state machines shouldnt look like this

[orchid frigate]

yuh uh

show me an example of a better state machine

[barren shale]

🥖👨‍🎨👍

[wet girder]

One of our senior devs uses git in a stupid way and when he's trying to merge his changes to testing branch it doesn't let him because he fucked up manual merge so badly

He did 3 fuckin commits for a single merge

Why just why

Now I have to fix it for some reason

[barren shale]

[distant wraith]

Today I leant that you can define a type this way:

type("catlover", (), {"__init__": lambda self: setattr(self, "cat", "Meow!")})

[verbal glacier]

Interesting

[warped mirage]

hm

[barren shale]

looks very slow

[old mural]

yes lambda

[acoustic tinsel]

+level

level!

!Level

Wtf

+ship @acoustic tinsel @acoustic tinsel

._.

[barren shale]

@acoustic tinsel ever heard of #🤖bot-commands

[acoustic tinsel]

Ok

[quartz pumice]

how

how would it even touch performance

if its type definition

[barren shale]

idk

but when you include a lot of strings

its starts to fuck with the garbage collection

that's why i said it looks and not it is

but it might be optimized so yeah idk

[hollow perch]

hi guyz is anyobody here??

[devout geyser]

IM BACK BABYYYYYYY!

[plush cedar]

nerbs

[edgy matrix]

[distant wraith]

https://xkcd.com/2347/, so true

[static solar]

Nice try

[distant wraith]

[jolly field]

Ong ☠️☠️☠️☠️

[next shell]

Kobalt

[cinder ridge]

oof

[young flume]

[winter crest]

Please tell me how to make sure that the trait is issued only after the unit has received 120 units of damage, I have no idea how to track the damage received.

[wet girder]

#🔧modding-talk can help better

[winter crest]

ok, thx

[barren shale]

the "Revert last commit" button would be looking hot

[wet girder]

I just accidentally almost deleted System32 on my work computer

[barren shale]

damn

[knotty root]

~update

-update

[rugged veldt]

bro really got caught

[wet girder]

Accurate

[dreamy vortex]

🐢

[wet girder]

I fuckin hate VB. When I accidentally put a semicolon after a line of code it gives me an error "Character is not valid" I've been confused by this so many times. Please just tell me "DO NUT FUCKIN PUT ;" rather than this

[barren shale]

vb in 2023

[wet girder]

someone has to deal with legacy code

We're always trying to move to C# whenever possible but quite often it just makes more sense to do small update to legacy code

mostly because of deadlines

if we had unlimited amount of time to do these we wouldn't deal with vb and just turn everything into C# code

[feral bramble]

wonder if legacy code will stick around in important stuff for centuries...

[wet girder]

Our current code will be legacy at some point

There will always be legacy code but the current legacy won't stick around forever

[barren shale]

well the current way newer programming languages are being built you should be able to migrate really easily

so you can just keep migrating instead of getting legacy code 🤮

[steel grotto]

Yo! I’m going into my Junior year of high school, and I’m taking my third CS course, I think Java this year. After that though, we have a choice, C++ programming or Game Design. Which would you guys recommend if I want a CS Degree later?

[vapid prairie]

Yo guys I heard you can mod worldbox on mobile is that true

[hardy field]

No, it isn't

[orchid frigate]

I'm biased af so will say c++

[wet girder]

You should just do whatever you want, either one will help worth getting a CS degree

I have experience in studying both game design and C++ and Imo game design was more fun but C++ is also fascinating

[dreamy vortex]

No

[wet girder]

fun stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A06nNjBKV7I