#⌨coders-cave
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A
.NET 6, REST APIs, Any database
you can also learn by trying to do something and then watching tutorials when you get stuck
that shouldnt get you started
I know but
and that's what i recommend
The thint is
I dont know shit in networking
at the price of $30/hr
So I dont even have a goal
you dont need to
backend and networking are not related
then... learn it?
if you need to of course
my philosophy is ram my head into what I want to do and learn what I need to solve as I'm doing it
and this works wonders
but it doesnt teach theory
no you need to do both at the same time
Because otherwise you might aswell copy paste everything
so you dont forget the theory
Nah
bro im a teacher for living
I've taken proper classes, they really for me only added a few operators to my swiss army knife or added a few basic stuff I had somehow skipped (cause I had been programming for some time prior)
Atleast for oss theory is impossible without
no
Idk what backend even is
Etf
Its like
The connection with the server
From the site
So its not os like
Goddamnint
there's frontend which is what you see
and there's backend
which is what you dont see
and they are connected
its a weirdly defined term
no
For my future project
its not related to networking
Backend cringe
I mainly wanna learn it because
I downloaded linux kali
for websites yeah, but programming is beyond that
So I automatically gotta be a hacker
And to be a hacker
I gotta know whats going on behind the scenes
i mean if it's not in the context of a website i would call it an API
that's the same thing as backend

the backend of a website is an API
Goddamnit too many terms
In os everything is "oogy booga sixth bit of this exact thing gotta be flipped so that you can live a healthy life"
we put an API on your API
wtf
So can I use
there's 
Any of my knowledge
why use the whole image
most servers dont have memes from 15+ years ago
Actually two
as an emote
Opengl and vulkan
Can I use those
I have been trying to find a project for them for a while
welcome to programming, every other thing has a term for it
Yea not a welcome
I have been here for a looong time
But lile
Hamza
Dont run away
I swear
actually just computers in general
nothing but acronyms when I sleep at night
Do you know if I can use vulkan for backend
Somehow
Its an api
So it gotta work right
Wait from my understanding
Backend is literally just a tiny os
It manages data
And basically controls the server
you weird OS programmers
Ik that's why im taking a break from it
Memory management is
Fucking insanE
Especially paging
why would you work through vulkan instead of a service like unreal or unity that uses vulkan, opengl, etc
You gotta be a madman to understand it
Control
Unity allow for so much control
you're working backwards from OS to backend than starting simple backend
And im not even gonna talk about unreal
With vulkan you go so low you can communicate with the backend
Or fuck
Hardware
Backend ruined me
Merhaba
I tried unity
A month ago
I hated it
Every part
No ingiliş
maybe backend not for you then lul
Is backend the same
Yes türkey
Goddamn why I gotta tell you these things
backend is like a lot of things
Working in unity felt like a prison
its meant to be compared to your shenanigans
what
Where tf did you go
no where
not everyone is needing to rewrite the entire OS to make a video game
Wait
I think you dont understand my goals
Idc about oss anymore
They are lame
With their stupid paging
Im looking for something closer to high level
well if you want to create your own game engine go ham with c++
Nah
I wanna stay away from c
Rust best
But thats not the point
ok so you complain its too restricting but then refuse to create your own
aka the way to not be restrictive
I dont complain
I just
Criticize
With a louder voice
I have done vulkan with both rust and c
Its cool
But
Eh
if you like rust go make something with that
well thats like polar opposite to OS
- Salaries
- Salaries
- Server knowledge will be useful
Ik but
A man has to do
What he has to do
Not what
you can play around with js or html or whatever you want
again, not really,
if you do backend you dont need to do frontend
but if you do frontend you need to do a bit of backend
just so you know how to connect them
at least a bit of backend theory
Where can I find backend theory
I like to keep my pathways open so I've done both, but honestly there isn't a whole lot of overlap
i dont know
Readables
i only watch youtube
I have a
C# book
I got it when I did c#
Its 600 pages
Wtf is in this damn language
crack
Clean Architecture is a way of structuring a solution such that dependencies and infrastructure concerns are kept separate from business logic and the domain model. It's frequently used with Domain-Driven Design and can easily be built with ASP.NET Core using a solution template described in this article.
Yes
but you need to start with the basics first
This is whay I was looking for from the start
Nah im good
then you wont really understand the words
1 hour is too long for after 9 hours of school
Used to that
I understand like 20% of the words in the intel manual
Alright thanks everyone
I wish I could put an outro
But I cant
i dont think understanding 20% is efficient
And also yea
I just looked at the data structures that were there
Because words too complex
Im an expert at doing everything as lazly as possible
well there's no data structures for principles
Hello grand masters of coding
How do i learn the ways of python
you go on youtube
I did some today
Its literally just
Write an essay
With syntax
Hm
when you read assembly you know you cant understand
but with python
sometimes you think you understand
but you dont
you really dont
I kinda get that
It looks like a simple language
But doing weird things can be weird
Alright time to officially begin the new era
New dakata
High level dakata
Already gave up
Didnt even last a full hour
@barren shale are you disappointed in me
very
:(
Im sorry but
Too wordy
It felt like I was writing an essay on how the server should operate
too wordy is good
fluent apis are in very high demand
almost every library has them
including .NET
Why
Its so annoying to type in them
Also
Since when does everything start with a capital letter
Im so used to snake case from rust that c# felt like too much to handle
i think camel case is way better
@orchid frigate https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/linus-torvalds-rust-will-go-into-linux-6-1/
With regards to how can it be used low level
Seems it will be
What's camel case
Ye ik
That's a pretty old thing
I dont get why they are doing it
But good for them ig
It will take a looong time to switch
And when they write the code they will have to make sure its stable
Because I have had many many situations where my rust code ends up failing
But compilation times will definitely suffer
camelCase
PascalCase
snake_case
SCREAMING_SNAKE_CASE
Atleast my shift and caps lock still works
true
Round 1
._.
banzai
Strongest lua fan VS weakest any other language enjoyer*
programmer version: if you lose you have to write windows os with assembly
Oh hell nah thats too much for even me to motivate 💀 💀 💀
You're just bad
strongest scratch fan vs strongest lua fan
Strongest scratch fan vs weakest English enjoyer
Shot
What exactly do you even mean?
He is asking if anyone knows how to code planned cities
Im on Android
Obviously
Cmon jupe you gotta understand these things
are there unplanned cities?
are there planned cities?
are there cities?
Are there plans?
Is anything ever planned?
Im planning to make a plan
C# >
Py > 🤣
who
what
what
Yea makes City’s
does anyone here know code in worldbox
my map failed loading after I turned an autosave into a save
read channel description
Its about coding too tho
code + worldbox = #🔧modding-talk
and he is talking about an error that he got in the game
so it should be #🚑help-chat
Okay hamza
Fenasi Kerim
Jokes on you! You just said "i f*ck hard" in turkish 🤓
Fena s*kerim
how
I am عربي
Nice to meet you لتفنه
💀
But the most downloaded game is Minecraft wich use java script
So L + bozo
bro
you cant be serious
It’s the most purchased not downloaded 💀
no it uses batch
Who like Luau
Who tf let the newbie programmers in the chat💀
talking like you can write decent code
smh
i believe mnecraft uses ruby on rails
Working code and decent code are two specialties
I specialise in none of them
But my code isn't that bad
Ever since I started using rust its decent
whats the use of a very "decent" code when it barely works
Mute me
Hey guys, sorry but qq: is there any API doc that you can point me to?
api for what
if it barely works then it is good enough
Sometimes barely works is the best case scenario
4 the WorldBox ofc, I've seen instructions to decompile with dotpeek, but let's be clear it's not the best way to let people know how to work with classes
So just wondering if any actual docs are available
Thx
yes, sometimes, but not always :)
we dont settle on bare minimum
Im planning on developing a game in the future when i get a pc
And i have a question
Is roblox a good place to start learning how to code?
Or is unity better
u shouldnt start on a game
start on learning languages
like lua, python, js
The cavemen in this server don't like Lua too much. Watch out for them
no not for wb
for in general coding
I dont like this language choice
I think starting with one of the c languages would be much more beneficial
i dont give a fuck what u like
Ok penguin from club penguin
Problem ?
Yes
I hate it
But anyway the thing is
C languages are overall better for stuff like this
idgaf?
And even if they are ... considered more difficult
They are much better for first language
Because after them you can learn anything
python is...
Bro talking to you is like talking to a brick wall
cry
Python is good if you have a very specific goal in mind
Mf cant figure out better comebacks
dm's
xx
problem?
Nah bro im out
Your comebacks are so boring I cant stay here
Cant even have a fucking argument with yoy
bye bye xx
I started an argument by asking what app is better to start a game making career on
ok
dont listen to anyone
you can start on a game
i started on a game
and now im the greatest programmer/progamer alive
fuck up
how do you get powerbox on mac?
Chat acting wild tonight? I just got here
Oh wait im in coders cave lmao
Fenasi kerim because hazma wont say it
You just said "i f*ck hard" in turkish
But i appreciate you saying it
Im fine rei
There were some good things people said but I'll give my take to this with my experience seeing 15 people in my class learn to make games from scratch.
First of all don't do games on Roblox, it's a scam you'll never get anything out of it. You can't make games in any other engines with the experience and you won't get any money. Use Unity but before you can use any engine you need to learn a language. What I like to tell people to learn first is c#, it's the easiest language that gives a lot of information that can be easily transferred to other languages
and also yes I'm late
They take so much money i heard from there devs i heard
sorry its 4 am i cant type 
Wasn't planning on making money just learning on which one is best to start with
But yes
Roblox is a master at taking cash
You could try and bypass the system by making the ability to donate be outside of roblox
roblox takes 30% of your profit
also yes
roblox has its own designed language
a subset of lua
so its more focused on roblox than learning to program
people overcharge for roblox service tbh
making a simple opening door cost 300robux
very surprised cause when someone hired me to fix a GUI problem they offered like 250robux
but the problem was he's using absolute positioning
when i lowered the offer to 80
he thought i was scamming him
💀
thats tuff
Plus devex so it's closer to like 60-70
what's devex
Developer exchange, the thing that you use to make your fake internet points to real money
Insanely easy and insanely useless
Just learn python instead of lua
it's basically the same but useful
Every newbie learns. It's not that useful in the real world for most people if you want to get a job coding but it's easy and a good stepping stone
Unity uses C#
you can use pygame to make games with python but it's not a good way to make games lol
I wish unity used something else
Writing c# tires my fingers
And hand
And brain
Why tf is everything so extremely wordy bro
Thats why its better to write your own things from scratch 
But the longs names
They just dont look good
Or feel good
And the worst part is they dont give that much info
If you dont know what the thing is used for the name wont help
You don't like writing half the bible for simple position change? Kinda pathetic ngl
I would write 50 lines of assembly and be happier than writing 5 lines in c# 💀
Nah c# also wrong
Unity is just way too long
I used it recently
Everything
Everything is wordy
Feels like im writing an essay
I hate essays
Last time I wrote one I insulted the shit out of my teacher the entire time
Fair. I've been making inventory system in unity reasently and I feel like I've written the whole bible at this point lmao
Exactly
Finally a like-minded person
I enjoy python because
Its not wordy
At all
Its actually pretty cool
I wouldn't use it on a daily basis but if I had to
I would enjoy it
Rust is also kinda wrong tho
Because of camel case everything is weird
Python is difficult atm for me
Dont give me that
Dont fall to the weakness trap
You can do it
Its easy
Have the confidence you can
And you will can
If they find out your dead
From the conversation i think y'all want the ability to choose what language to code in
you are a tiny fetus
in your lifetime youll be writing c# code
I have that ability
In fact I use like 3-4 languages in a project
But that doesn't mean I wont try any other languages
The worst thing you can do is decide you like one language and never use another
Its important to try more or less all of them
yes its used for small games like a clicker
Cant wait to write a game in 4 different coding languages on accident because i forgot to put which code im gonna specifically use for this one game
Thats not....
How coding works
How could you forget which language you were gonna write in
Each language has its purpose in the project
If you forget which is for which you dont know what you are doing
Making the inventory was fine i didn’t mind all the writing
skill issue

change the aS2.1 isu for fun please...
Is it possible to mod WorldBox and if so how hard is itt
so modding worldbox from what I seen is like you can only mod certain parts of it like adding traits, you can’t delete stuff from the vanilla game either
Mod/admin responding with #🔧modding-talk in T minus 10 9
SCOTLAND FOREVER!!!!
British_rover
proceed to say Scotland forever
oh and
does anyone still uses laravel
you can add or remove whatever you want
the chat for that is #🔧modding-talk
what about python
name checks out
your pfp clearly indicates what type of animal brain you have to not agree with my statement
name still checks out
shut up you rodent
go make your bobux games
what language do you use
not lua
sign language
makes sense
still better than lua
Never saw developers arguing in my life
scratch 💀
ok uh she plays chess ig
scratch is the best ong
Mario maker>
@cunning summit you should be thrown out of this chat
For even thinking lua is a relatively good programming language
You have clearly never actually touched code
NO FUCKING WAY
LETS GOOOO
BIG W
Ikr
Hah
I dont touch code outside of work
8h+ days, i dont wanna do it as well outside
Rust finally proves itself for the flexible language it is
Ikr, super glad
I only code like twice a week nowadays
With 8 hours of school im not willing to think more than that
i code
never lately
not enough time to spare
school from 6:30 to 17:30
and then homework
and on weekend i got some lesson
sunday is probably the day i code in a week
and its probably just some random shit
I code when i want to do something that requires code
@fair quarry ban when
Indonesia
🙂
No it’s just that the clock is different in America
It doesn’t go past 12:00
So I was a little confused when I saw this
I think he’s using military time/24 hour clock
So it would be 6:30AM-3:00
we like to do a little math with time
A
Hello, is this a chat room?
no
This room is for magicians
who lives in cave
Calling a programmer a magician
Is the most unfitting compliment ever
The most magic thing we have
Is colorful.wordw
And extreme laziness
Insane
@ hello world
^best programmer
hey will this write each line on a separate line?
with open('3worddict.txt', 'w') as f:
f.write(line + '\n')
pls ping me with answer
you can test it you know
but yes it will
i did
it didnt work
it doesnt pring anything
print*
or not print, write
`
word = 0
def word():
thing = open(r'dictionary.txt', 'r')
for line in thing:
word = len(line)
if word == 4:
with open('3worddict.txt', 'w') as f:
f.write(line)
f.write('\n')
word()
this is full code
word = 0
def word():
thing = open(r'dictionary.txt', 'r')
for line in thing:
word = len(line)
if word == 4:
with open('3worddict.txt', 'w') as f:
f.write(line)
f.write(' \n')
word()
then word is not equal to 4
does it even compile
yes
try to change the name of the variable first
i did
to word2
its just ignoring the new line for some reason
and writing on top of the others
this is an example i found online::
lines = ['Readme', 'How to write text files in Python']
with open('readme.txt', 'w') as f:
for line in lines:
f.write(line)
f.write('\n')
its because ur opening the file with 'w'
which overrides the file
everytime you open it
so a?
counter = 0
def word():
with open(r'dictionary.txt', 'r') as thing:
with open('3worddict.txt', 'w') as f:
for line in thing:
counter = len(line)
if counter == 4:
f.write(line)
f.write(' \n')
word()
for append
what do i open it as?
you can keep it a 'w' if you want to overwrite the file
but now it will overwrite it with everything isntead of just the last thing
i would recommend using 'w'
i used append
so if you run it twice it wont duplicate the words in the text file
it will work with 'w' if u use the code above
also, I have another question. I want to take that list and copy and paste one word at a time and press enter into a section of a web browser
even if you use 'a' you should still open the file before the loop
do you know how to do that
no
oh
alright ill figure it out later
🤓
💀
Bro this chat turned into average Ohio chat 💀 💀 💀
Wow, a new chat species
What is this
commission someone if it's a simple concept?
sure
@simple scroll wrong channel use #🤖bot-commands
What is up my fellow tortured coders?
aight im an ai artist now lmao
rust more like ez
you're using old weights
wd-1-3 is the latest, and looks like they'll be starting 1-4 soon
I have a JoJo TI which is going pretty well (Tony Stark style of JJBA)
aight where can i get it
yoooo
also https://huggingface.co/hakurei/waifu-diffusion-v1-4
(its empty now, but for future reference)
they gave programmers algorithms to make art, soon enough they wont even have to touch UI, the backend devs will take over the world one function at a time
damn more Ls for the art community
someone should make stable diffusion for html and css
you can probably do that with a code focused text generator
and by probably I mean you can
"your" ai art
yes :)))
I think you mean our
you just put the funny prompts in
which is an art I suppose, albeit the world's lowest bar
the generator is moreso the artist than you
and even it is just a collection of weights assigned to text
is the artist everyone, is the artist the generator, is it the person spamming HIGH RESOLUTION 4K WALLPAPER
idk its still our art
the generator
the generator is the artist
bc like
you train models with art right
just like how these artist learn their arts
in a way it is its own artist
but look there is still efffort lol
given its just approximate weights to things it will generate inbetweens most of the time
however if you have starry night, something it knows very well
it will literally just make van gogh's art, making it no longer the artist
if you dont put decent prompts youll end up getting dismembered arms
not really
it will put some
modifications
depending on how you prompt
not enough to make it its own art
thats when its weights are so strong that it is mostly recreating the exact thing
its an interesting philosophy discussion that every other person talks about everytime its brought up, so I'm sorry to be a contributor
shiet man u know
im out here
cant really argue with someone siding against ai
they making good points like ai being lazy
but thats just how it is
oh it is the less influenced way for sure, to deny it of being its own art in some way, feels wrong though
because its not human?
its very funny you'll find some people who are afraid it'll take over the art world, and others who deny that its even art. Is it so good that it will take over or so bad that its not even art?
maybe for passionless art jobs
but who cares about losing passionless art jobs
at least for now
but frfrfrfr it just proves programmers are the most powerful people in the world fr
im out here on twitter
giving massive Ls
in a technology based world? who would've guessed
when Is the next update?
Imagine if 99% of them didnt work for some brand
And everyone was trying to actually do something with their skills
Impressive
We would be way more advanced
But sadly humans need to eat
Ffs humans are lame
@orchid frigate rust is ez
i believe most programmers do have some spare time doing stuff for themselves
thats what im trying to do tho
im here trying to find that unlimited money glitch
like making a p rn site for example lmao
so like i have time to learn ai stuff
i will never turn into some corpo slave
Hey reply to this with what is the craziest thing you ever made
WEB SCRAPER FOR the WEBSITE OF AN APP
It went vroom broom code info data vroom
It was awesome
Ikr
I love rust
Im happy you love rust too
This means you are worthy of being my friend
We are best friends now
I dont love it
Insta block
Dont care
Its not C#
Its everything you could ever need
Its better
Ew no
Maybe
Can c# be compiled?
Yes
Technically
But its stupid
So we dont count it
But rust can
Ez
So
Rust wins
Literally 99.99% of the planet doesnt care
95% of the planet doesn't know what complied means
Probably more
Your mum
But
🍞
Is that Ugandan fucking knuckles
Thats ray marching
Below the big building
Naah
The big building is a cube
Bet ray cant get sturdy tho
And below it is a sphere
What is sturdy
Game development
you need to do the random value before the for loop
well it depends
what is the goal
he can also remove the whole loop and just print the randValue
because he is printing the index
if he wants to print the value he can use the randValue to get it
this is a prison
alsi im getting better
and i have an interview next Saturday about making an administration website for a school
☝️🤓
yes :)
.net 7.0 compiles c# to native
no more IL
yeah
because it compiles it with the compiler
and its not .net 7
you can do it with .net 6
and its still very limited
doesnt give any performance advantages
just saves some memory
not to mention
app size becomes huge
i did it boys
a commission from a school for administration website

hopefully i finish this
unlike the others
what raid
species box raids
i said before that i wont fix them because that's a waste of time
i still get pinged when they stop working
smh stoopid people
idk why he is pinging me here too
What school?
Squidward art collage
a preschool
Oh
Squidward elementary school
nah
ok so i made a programming language
and it is better than lua
anyways so now we have variables which makes it a lot better than lua
Hello soon I will hack Brookhaven
interpeter in C#
basically took the biggest shortcut you can ever take while making a language
Hello soon I will hack Bloxfruits
No
It's forbidden
Not 420 AND 69 together
This world is gonna explode
Fu
guys help i opened a terminal and started violently hitting my keyboard but it didn't hack into a mainframe 😭😭😭
i hear they have the most exclusive art majors there
I was politely talking to an ai and it seems to be angry
What did u say
Пон
🔨 Banned BIGBOIROHEEEM#5395 indefinitely
nice

