#🌐map-discussion
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Someone gives me advice to know which images to take to be able to convert them to countries, I don't know that the bot to convert image to map understands which are the mountains, which is the land and which is the water, but rather a method to edit it and what is understood or the most popular thing to do.
what did you use to make this animation?
map to globe
thanks 🙏
Hey all, can we install maps on the tablet's app?
Does anybody know how to make rocky coastlines without them looking like shit?
Wip. I use that image as a reference for the world I'm making
How do I download maps on Android
How to access the worldbox data folder on android 11 to 13.
If steps below don't work or android 14+ use these alternative methods :
#1150826964937084969 message
- Download a third-party application like "File Manager" from google play,
- Now go to your phone’s "settings" application, after that find/search an factory system application called "Files" (has a darker blue background with a big white folder in the center of the icon), then click it,
- you will be showed the "app info" screen after clicked the "Files" application, find the three dots button,
- After you see the three dots button, click the three dots button and then if it has an "uninstall updates" option there, make sure to choose the option (wait until the uninstalling process is done and completed to avoid a mistake),
- Now open the third-party application (File Manager) and allow it to manage files,
- Find the "Android" folder and open it, then open the data folder,
- You'll see some popup, touch "ok"/"yes" and also touch the "use this folder" button at bottom without opening any files that are showing,
- If you have succeeded, the app will now have access to android file and can enter the saves folder in "com.mkarpenko.worldbox" folder.
@dull pewter
You make some of the prettiest maps, ngl.
Hello everyone, I've been asked to explain my process quite a few times. However it's difficult to explain without visual representation. So I'll give you
a quick rundown of my general workflow in GIMP in 10 steps + some visuals!
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Start out with a rough brush and draw the general landmass, don't fret if you have straight lines on your continents.
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Refine the landmass by adding defining lines, additional islands, and outcroppings.
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Add the rough base of your mountains, Use a combo of "noodle" style mountains and more robust hills. Have some chaos with it.
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mountain time, do not fill the entire hill space with mountains just where the peaks/ridges would be.
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Highlands will take some time but first hit it with a rough brush throughout the land mass concentrating around the mountains and plateaus.
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The image shows half of the refining process to give you a feel of what you should be going for.
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Refining the highlands giving detail into forest breaking any smooth pieces.
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I use an ocean brush I have made to give the seabed its detail but, it is entirely possible to reuse the same steps in 5-7
with the highlands to recreate a similar result. -
Biomes is a similar case, I once again use a custom brush to create the blending. The closest thing I found to be similar is the stonework brush in Gimp.
As to the steps involved you want create a layer for each biome overlayed atop the original landmass. -
Merge the biome layers together then assign each biome its appropriate low/high color according to the main landmass.
Hopefully this helps explain a tad better than just words alone. If you have anymore questions feel free to msg me and I'll try to assist. Here are some
more general tips for everyone!
Always make separate layers for new steps makes it easier if you mess something up.
Don't get caught up in detailing work, unless the map is a closeup of a region the coast should be relatively smooth.
Draw, erase some, draw, erase some... and repeat, this is a key detail in making the highlands, mountains, hills, and biomes.
If possible use a draw pen/tablet it makes this easier however it is not needed (this map was made with mouse&keyboard)
When placing highlands and mountains avoid placing them directly in the middle of the landmass (except small island), this by far contributes to the unnatural look many maps have.
Comments? It's another map
map reference (its mine)
how what and why
Some mod should tag this
Beautiful bro i wish I could make stuff like that
Interesting
i hate this
what are you using?
the discord channel or mod?
the discord channel
okay so
to make it more accurate
ensure the map size is a multiple of 64
so you may need to crop it a bit
also i dont know if its actually like it but the map looks anti-aliased
make sure its aliased too!!
how?
it could just be discords compression
You could do use_only_plain_soil to force it to not have those biomes
Thanks!!!
Looks like North America but skinny
How do i upload my map?
Do you have upload permissions?
The little plus sign next to the chat bar.
Try on #🌐map-downloads
No i guess
I think it is possible on #🌐map-downloads
How do I upload one
Can someone make 9 Realms map,mcu
Im currently working on a fornite reload map rn its hella annoying to draw tbh
I also decided to put another planet there because that empty place feels strange.
You can upload maps on #🌐map-downloads
I can give a name to my map?
I just noticed other doing that 😂
Sure go ahead.
Anyone have a map.webox file of size 25x15
Signifying you are an Android player, in reference to your tags.
Good map
oh wow
Any Fortnite chapter 1 map ?
-w-
search it up in #🌐map-downloads
i did but there is too many maps
tf u talking bout
only 19
how do you search ?
Hello
yo is anyone willing to do a political map of a worldmap i found
or atleast teach me how to
hey where would i find larger than iceburg size maps?
usuaIIy #🌐✔cool-maps !
i dont really know the ratios
nvm on wiki
thank you!
where do i insert the map?
C:\Users\YOUR USERNAME\AppData\LocalLow\mkarpenko\WorldBox\saves
thank you!
“Perfect” circle with one tiny but noticeable error
0.14 worldbox generation
any tips on how to do gradients?
can we have this map file cutie?
does anybody know how to work the world generation? i haven been trying to find out how to generate maps with multiple islands (archipelago), still confused with the newer generation style than the old simplified world generator, help would be appreciated, much thanks!
I uhh… expanded it
(This specifically is a zoomed-out colour pallete)
mmm periodic table of colors
Now find out the hierarchy for which goes on top fr
67 different colors
technically a 68th one but those are unobtainable barrier tiles
and show up as transparent
there's a border water and border pit
@storm elk there might be some I haven’t discovered yet, and there are a couple other unique coloures but they aren’t cleanly tileable
the heck is the completely dark black one
The bottom 2 rows that are spaced away from the rest are each unique colour you can get from entities
Multiple different entities give the same colours so I just used one that happened to work
Pure black is the black Langton ant
Nice
I’ve got a list of mine somewhere, don’t mind the weird codes I gave each colour, I’m using them to organise stuff internally
👌
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Tiles
already has a hex for each tile btw
cept for stuff in other tiles for some reason
nvm for most tile ~w~
still decent amount has hex color left out for whatever reason
why do u not do hexcode
Couldn’t easily find the hex codes
Btw the pallete code is to find where it is on the image I sent before
The other code is jsut some organisational stuff
Are the hex codes on this site for the zoomed-out tiles I assume?
Hmm I’m not too sure
It’s giving 2 different hex codes for the Forest & plains version of creep tiles
When I was experimenting they where the same
Nevemind im an idiot
Time to add new colours to the list
Hmm there’s also a unit colour I missed too
Any of the creep units that spawn in are a hot pink
Too bad this takes an hour to recreate
Found it nvm (the channel)
Wait I can just remake it in a pixel editor lel
Aight
so ur just gonna place everything possible down and do each unique pixel?
A web app that counts the number of pixels in an image per a unique color.
btw
I’ll sort it into a proper hue table too so it’s not a weird periodic table thing that I made due to slowly finding more stuff
Hmm?
Probably
@storm elk how do I get the multiple different colours from lava? I’m only getting 2 different zoomed out colours
Red lava is red, & the orange & yellow is a pale yellow, but isn’t there meant to be a third?
Nvm there’s a less common dark orange too that I missed
Yay my pallete deleted itself
I didn't convert it to a WB map, but if you so wish you can take the png and run it through the converter
oof
How do i share my Timelapse?
Ohh thank you senpai
Why doesn't the game allow bigger base sizes on mobile for the Standart map creator? I actually can play 40+20 maps with good performance
Sorry for using the + sing but my phone doesnt have the x times sing
What kind of miraculous phone do you have?
Moto e 13 8gb ram for 110€
In all other things a bad phone but for gaming its delicious
The performance is verry good for that price
Im such a dumbaas
40x20
X
And 128 gb storage too
🫶
?
Good phone!
Good gaming phone other things aren't good
oh my god
can we start deleting these mass produced maps
they literally just take a map cut it out then pastes it on map converter
just to then post the same map but abit zoomed out
some of them are even on #🌐✔cool-maps like wtf
Idk who decides what goes where but i question his ability to decide whata cool and whats not
people with map maker role can post there
How do you download maps
Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
@void lotus
If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
Should include all tile hexcodes. Did you make sure to scroll down a little bit for the tiles like lava and other tiles? They have their own separate table for that right below the image table.
Might be a better idea to just include a page for hexcodes to make it more obvious and link to it at the top of that page to keep it less cluttered with info people may not looking for 
Well I’m in the process of doing another run of reviewing every page so I’ll probably have it figured out by the time I get to that page ¯_(ツ)_/¯
ah
Anyone know an effective method of downloading maps in mobile?
y ya linking to dat
How to access the worldbox data folder on android 11 to 13.
If steps below don't work or android 14+ use these alternative methods :
#1150826964937084969 message
- Download a third-party application like "File Manager" from google play,
- Now go to your phone’s "settings" application, after that find/search an factory system application called "Files" (has a darker blue background with a big white folder in the center of the icon), then click it,
- you will be showed the "app info" screen after clicked the "Files" application, find the three dots button,
- After you see the three dots button, click the three dots button and then if it has an "uninstall updates" option there, make sure to choose the option (wait until the uninstalling process is done and completed to avoid a mistake),
- Now open the third-party application (File Manager) and allow it to manage files,
- Find the "Android" folder and open it, then open the data folder,
- You'll see some popup, touch "ok"/"yes" and also touch the "use this folder" button at bottom without opening any files that are showing,
- If you have succeeded, the app will now have access to android file and can enter the saves folder in "com.mkarpenko.worldbox" folder.
@limber river
ᗰᗴᗴᑭ
The android method didn't work
that's why there's the alternative methods linked -w-
Didn't realize there was a bot command for it. What is the command?
Aliases: ans, a
Usage: answer <help_type> <target_user (optional)>
Description: Provides answers to commonly asked questions.
use the /answer command to see all the help types
Thanks!
Anyone got modern europe with countries?
just a matter of searching #🌐map-downloads
Sorry if this is the wrong chat to ask but is there any one piece island maps?
Use Discord's search function to find one in #🌐map-downloads
and honestly there's only 3 to choose from, this being one of them. (unless someone only did location name / mistyped one piece)
#🌐map-downloads message after some short research this seems like the best one
Use z archive it still lets you acces the datas
Any LOTR maps somewhere?
search
lord of the rings
or
middle earth
or
lotr
in #🌐map-downloads
#🌐map-downloads message
Can anyone link me instructions for downloading on pc
Im trying to install maps on my android tablet and im doing the steps right but its not working properly
Idk if its because my tablet is old or what
Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
@distant sphinx
Can anybody direct me to a mobile-friendly world that is based off the real world (any region)
Is runnable on phone
and here's stupidly tiny
@kind violet just search up in #🌐map-downloads for what u want
does someone have a map of Romania
How do I download maps on ios
Any map to unlock achievements?
How do I download maps on ios, and I will make it
There videos on youtube for it
How to download worldbox maps on ios and you'll get everything you need
you can’t
unless you jailbreak your phone
which i dont recommend
Any map of the world for android?
If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
@compact swan
well I don’t have a pc D:
scroll up
16x7 is runnable tho may be prone to crashing if phone not good enough
and 2x1 most definitely works on all devices
just go search #🌐map-downloads to find one that suits ur device
What does jailbreak your phone mean?
Cuz i got an android but the whole thing is destroyed
like you alter your phone so it doesnt have limitations
look it up
essentially removes restrictions ios has on files en other stuff
If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
non jailbreak way
For what there is 4 years of maps
Whatever the heck ur looking for -w-
world
earth
lord of the rings
do u know how to use discord search...
Search dragon and tell if you see any maps with how to train your dragon?!
Can I request a map
How do you download maps on iPhone? do yall know how?
@rare bane I can’t post the link to help Jaxon
sea wolf
What
👽
0 cause none of the people who make maps here felt like doing it
If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
@solid nova
use the /answer command
or ~a iosmaps
Just make one
#🔁map-conversion makes recreating maps from stuff so much or more accessible
definitely have to do some legwork yourself tho in case of how to train your dragon
No convenient solid color maps en such
Even just an outline is really helpful
does anyone have a lord of the rings middle earth map?
Who has a the map of dominican republic
ERAGON MENTIONED RAAAH #🌐map-downloads message
can someone help me make a political map?
How do I download maps on mobile?
If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
That’s unfortunate
Hello I have an android and I don't know how to install a map
Look 2 posts to the north there youre answers lie
Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
#🌐✔cool-maps #🌐map-downloads Check these out plus the guide above.
im working on a 14x10 map
OK thanks
Thank u
I need someone who knows how to organize each country on the map of Europe. I already have the map (terrain) but I don't know how to make each kingdom exactly like the country (outlines)
Most people probably use collection mod
it allows you to draw the borders of kingdoms
I only have a cell phone and I don't know how to use this part about mods, do you know anyone who can help me?
cant mod on mobile
So do you know anyone who can do this for me?
i do not... but maybe someone will see your messages and help out!
ok 😦
What is the biggest map size that could reliably be uploaded to the workshop?
Like file size wise
hm?
nothing
Im trying and failing to make a map
it's like 3 continents and size and scale is throwing me off
oh yeah this for uploading non square or larger than iceberg sizes to workshop
Why does this channel not allow images.....
I wanted to show the map i was trying to make,
Image perms at lvl 10 (when ur name turns yellow)
Though some channels do have a level override like #🎨art so that is odd
is there a earth with no mountains
yeah just search for plainer ones like these
I want a map of Southeast Asia.
Please tell me how to make a map.
#🔁map-conversion if just feel like converting an image
Otherwise uh well there are video tutorials
https://youtu.be/XtWZk-WMBiU
or can attempt to search for tips here in this channel
Its time for another WorldBox guide! Today I will be showing you how I make my maps, and the little tips and tricks that I've learned to help them look better.
I hope this helps!
Mods I use:
PowerBox
MoBox
Modern Mod
And my guide on how to install them (PC only)
https://youtu.be/Lat2UWbt-Sw
My other channel!
https://www.youtube.com/c/Greg...
@spiral hedge Oh yeah if want to draw in dif program and then convert this is useful
https://gamebanana.com/mods/467589
#🌐map-discussion message
Plus there's this resource for making maps out of a section of Earth
Just crop out any image with dimensions that are multiples of 64 and it should go good when ran in #🔁map-conversion if it ain't too big
(too big is beyond 3200 by 3200 pixels, a 50x50 map in world box)
do the maps work for mobile
Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
@brazen sandal
move map.wbox file into appropriate spot
(or map.json if have old world download for some reason)
How do I download maps for mobile iOS
Fr
If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
@brazen sandal
What about zarchiver
can't move stuff into where worldbox saves stuff
published my first map cant wait to see the results later
wip. The worlds are finished. I want to wait for the next update to see the new biomes.
holy crap
so...how long did this take?
I didn't count the days
real
i would send the map i just finished making
but like
i am not ranked up
😔
can't you upload maps?
no i have to be ranked up to send images
I can send it to dms tho if u wanna see it
oh i cant nvm
I swear I saw this here like a week ago
Anyone have a cool earth map?
Check out #🌐✔cool-maps #🌐map-downloads
Just search Earth and you'll find loads.
Who wants to modify his own world by adding features or the like?
Made the rookie mistake of making it too big on accident and now i cant finish the campaingn because therell be 1000000 units alive if all land is taken
it was like that
is my map
I am sending the progress little by little
How do you download maps on ios?
If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
@quick torrent
Ah makes sense
hmm art
@true pelican
Can someone help me with editing a map of Europe? (I already have the map)
if talking bout editing a image so can use in #🔁map-conversion
here's a color palette atleast
#🌐map-discussion message
@burnt seal ill help you
Dude I just needed someone to recreate the outlines of the European countries on the map I have 😦
@storm elk Anyone Have A Map For The King Of King Achivement ???
Search in #🌐map-downloads
@last cloud Bro is Too Long To Search 😢
Ohh Helll Nahh Thanks BROOO
imma keep this on clipboard now lol
@last cloud Bro You Dont Know A Thing Who Can Help Me To Install Mod On World Box I Really Need To Install One of My Mod Favorite
mods are steam only
but assuming ya have steam version
Follow this guide to learn how to install mods:
https://gamebanana.com/tuts/16262
Gimme this world
How do i download maps for Android?
Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
@hardy veldt
Check out this nifty guide.
If you need cool maps, head on over to #🌐✔cool-maps #🌐map-downloads
Can you download maps onto iPhone?
If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
@royal lotus Check out this guide above!
anybody got a cool us map download with the states civilization
Search in:
#🌐✔cool-maps
#🌐map-downloads
SHUT UP
Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
@supple crest
Shut up you crumpled up bag of shit, trash
@wet narwhal It appears that this file does not have support for this
#🌐map-downloads have to attach a map.wbox file
if want to upload anything on there
and this is how you get to em
Which file @storm elk
wdym which file
you can have multiple save folders depending on how many worlds ya saved in game
I only saved 3
ok
so there should be something like save1 save2 save3 in the saves folder
It always appears and says that there is no support
You don't open the files...
you copy them to downloads so can post on discord
or #🔁map-conversion if using the map.wbox for the ~decode or ~expand command
It's not working
How to use the ~expand command on the worldbox discord
this is an example of me using a map.wbox file @supple crest
Thank you @storm elk
No way there is a video about the wb server
made it as a way to help someone
d
Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
@supple crest
look at the videos under android
How to Download Maps On WorldBox 2024! | MBM World Box
Download Maps Without Zarachiver And if you can't access files. Latest 2024 Version
Link to Discord Server https://discord.com/invite/cgpgeKXRTV
Link to files app
https://play.google.com/store/apps
/details?id=com.marc.files
#worldbox #superworldbox #download #maps #howto #sho...
-traiiteditor
what size is that world map in the map downloads?
20x10
Hi, I'm thinking about making a really, really big map (30x30 minimum but preferrably 40x40 or larger) that is largely nothing, interrupted by some islands. I was wondering, when it comes to map sizes hurting computers, is it more about the map itself or the populations on the map that causes computers to combust? Thanks!
It's about population and the number of objects (grass, trees)
I see - I'm thinking about making one of those "star system" maps, but that means a whole lot of space between the habitable areas lol. I'm thinking of using absurd sizes to help distance the planets (such as 50x20) but I dunno if all the mountains are gonna combust the game or not
larger map = higher base load of ram being used up
So yes having a 30 by 30 map is heavily performance impacting regardless of civ or not
what's the biggest map there is available for download right now, please 😭
#🌐map-downloads message
this is the largest I could find but it's probably not a good idea
regardless of how good your computer is
it's not gonna like it
Jeeeesus Christ that thing is massive
Meh, worth the shot
thank you kind sir
I shall now create a nuclear bomb with my computer
ohhh got it, I'll plan accordingly then 🫡 ty
please @cursive stag and @haughty escarp edit the message and at the end put "original map by @marble mauve"
#🌐map-downloads message
Original map:
#🌐map-downloads message
how do i download that map
Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
@tepid kettle
check this out
im stuck on loading screen xD
thank you
it's not even the same size???
No
1472x704
vs 1280x640 png sizes
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/535208693478981632/1307875416392073369/preview.png?ex=674082a6&is=673f3126&hm=e13e6b587f19b4503c28f293e2c03acf43288bcc4a48c88ebff91f41f4dff877&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/535208693478981632/1307875416392073369/preview.png?ex=674082a6&is=673f3126&hm=e13e6b587f19b4503c28f293e2c03acf43288bcc4a48c88ebff91f41f4dff877&
ah
Is your computer still alive?
haven't done it yet, I recorded my game session for a 4-5 hours rush and then I went to sleep
well something being cut off seeing as the preview.pngs be dif
it's the same size
¯_(ツ)_/¯
seeing as how many people do image2map conversions of Earth don't think any enforcement gonna happen with biome reskins
yeah ik they used ur map
I tried to run it but it wouldn’t load
Well yeah... It's a 500x200 sized map 😐
I don't believe any computer can load that.
Alright. Just to let you know. Don't bother loading it.
did someone have 100x100 map, only plain water(deep water tiles)
easy enough to make manually
barebones autosave file
ere ya go
pretty sure i kept the syntax intact
does anyone have the proper color palette for #🔁map-conversion ? I swear it was pinned in one of these channels once
You can get it with the ~dm_convert_palette command!
The reason why it's not pinned anymore is that the palette can change based on your conversion settings, so it can't really be summarized into a single message.
@storm elk @desert carbon thank you both!
You're welcome!
Map sure your pasting the ‘‘%AppData%\..\LocalLow\mkarpenko\WorldBox\saves’’ in the left bar and not the search bar.
does someone have 80x80 map?? (only water because i cant load the 100x100 one)
My pc runs a completely empty paused 80x80 map at like 0.1 FPS, not sure you want that.
9x9 is the max default size the game allows.
30x30 is where it starts to become "unplayable" imo, at least on my pc
i just want to test it on my phone though
You won’t be able to load that map size on a phone.
Unless you have the best phone in the world.
There’s a new 40x20 map in #🌐✔cool-maps . You can try that but I doubt that will load also.
idc just give it to me
im halfway succesfull while loading the 100x100 map, maybe 80x80 maps will work for me, or if it didnt work just give me the 60x60 map
@marble mauve
My phone can run 30x30 at most
and it's a google pixel 8 Pro
so got atleast 6gb of available ram to work with
20 x 20
25 x 25
30 x 30
35 x 35
40 x 40
45 x 45
50 x 50
55 x 55
60 x 60
65 x 65
70 x 70
75 x 75
80 x 80
85 x 85
90 x 90
95 x 95
100 x 100
20x20 25x25 30x30 35x35 40x40 45x45 50x50 55x55 60x60 65x65 70x70 75x75 80x80 85x85 90x90 95x95 100x100
Stress test maps of empty ocean
thanks
?
Hi is there any way how to increase size of an already existing map? mode or something. Thanks.
WIP
Can i have the world map pls
What do you do first to create mountains?
I typically progress going from mountains > hills > snow caps. Detail takes up a grand majority of the time in creation. The final result is by no means the first draft!
I understand. And do you use Photoshop or do you make the maps in-game?
I use GIMP, similar to Photoshop but free. The features of these programs are (IMO) far better than the in game tools
the ~expand command #🔁map-conversion
~help expand
Command expand not found.
breh
example use, og map will be centered. If want it off centered probably ask me to do it or try using this python code urself
tho if just looking to have more stuff around the terrain of the map just use the regular ol ~c command
and edit the preview.png urself
Any tips on creating mountain ranges?
Honestly, experience plays a big part (compare my older maps for example), but here is some. First things first get yourself a vector or image manipulation program. Gimp or Photoshop are the big ones. Secondly, avoid drawing Mts in the middle of landmasses. A final big one is to give variable line depth, a mass majority of maps suffer from this if all the mountains have a 5 pixel border of hills surrounding them they will look unnatural. These a few tips though If you have anymore questions let me know.
just for extra help the way i do it is i do draw fractals!!
so you make sure the range is spreading out with a spikey turney noisy style
i dont have a good image to refer to but its like this
skinny, always going somewhere
Aliases: creator
Usage: creators
Description: Provides a list of the creators of WorldBot(AMP)
~help monkey
Aliases: monke, monky
Usage: monkey
Description: Send monkey
@woeful flare mmm idk bout pc only
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If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
Am so close to finishing my 40x25 earth map!
If you mean my blending technique I went over it a little bit in a post a little while back but essentially I use a brush in gimp to help blend. And then stack the biome layers
for this map, what do you recommend?
Location will play a large factor in biome placement but based off what I see. The desert in the east needs to be scattered a bit, blended with arcane sand, Also blend in between a mix of savannah and grassland savannah. From their if the west is subject to tropics than perhaps a jungle mixed in with a little swamp. Utilizing the more fantasy-esque biomes requires more in depth work.
and maybe a small green oasis in the desert to help break up the yellow tones
Unrelated to conversion above
Here's a palette page I just made on the wiki: https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Palette
You can also find this info on the tiles page but it having it's own page should be easier to look through.
In one of the next days i will release an map of Dobruja 35x40.
Needed at least 16 GB RAM
Recommended 32 GB RAM
How i can open worldbox maps on mobil?
Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
@cerulean shoal
Hey uhm how can I play one of the maps on mobile edition ? ( IOS )
If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
@hushed vessel
Okay thanks
@tribal belfry dont spam messages here, this is where you discuss maps
Todos ingleses
what do you think?
wondering why even if I push the resolution and size of the image I convert the map converter still converts it into a massive 15x30 map that is corrupted. Any tips fore me cause this is the first time this problem has happened to me ever since I used the converter bot.
jeez that's too big compared to some of the larger map images that converted into way smaller 10x20 ones
Looks good, If I were to tweak anything I’d move the swamps down off the mountains towards the rivers near the jungle. Around the small lakes in the desert mix tiles of jungle/grass sparingly to break up the yellow surroundings. Finally in the south where the jungle and savannah meet mix in some grass land to make the jump in color more smooth.
Besides my minor critiques it’s shaping nicely
Better, but I would consider reducing the amount of swamp. At least within the northern non-jungle portion.
are there any good napoleonic europe maps
preferrably with all the countires there
~help
@true pelican
You can use discord's search function to find what you need in #🌐map-downloads or #🌐✔cool-maps!
- (If on mobile) be in #🌐map-downloads channel
- Tap on the search icon in top right corner of screen
- If non mobile user type
in:map-downloadsand then click on #🌐map-downloads
- Type in the keyword of map you want to search for in the search bar, and press enter.
- Example: typing earth into the search bar will bring up earth maps.
If still unsure how to use search look at this discord support article: https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000468588-Using-Search
@meager pendant
All the maps I move to mobile get corrupted. Is there something wrong with wprldbox file saving system these days?
are they still named map.wbox
can't be named anything else
(cept map.json if an old one)
Yes, i just transfer them to the files with the folder named save(number) right after downloading them as map.wbox
send screenshot of error and folder
nvm didnt notice my phone went up to android 14 and new app data restrictions were in place. fixed with a quick google search. Thanks for sticking with me in my confusion though!
I have a question
Are we able to download customs maps onto IOS devices like an iPhone ?
and if so is their a tutorial or directions somewhere on this discord ?
If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
@agile pecan
Oh ok
Palette Tools for #🔁map-conversion
- Wiki Palette page: https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Palette
- dm_convert_palette (~dmcp) - Get selected convert palette in text format in DMs
- Map Making Template: #🌐map-discussion message
how do i put a map into my game
Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
@sour sparrow
If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
Possible types are:
mapguide (maps, map, mg):
Links to a wiki article on how to install maps.
bugs:
Links to a page for reporting bugs in the game.
wiki (wk):
Links to the main page of the official WorldBox wiki.
update (up):
Provides the user with information on when the next update will be released.
translationmistake (mistake, mt):
Links to a form for reporting translation errors.
officialwebsite (website, web, ws):
Links to the official WorldBox website.
mobilemod (mobilemodding, mobilemods, mm):
Informs the user about the fact that mods can't be installed on mobile.
restoreandroid (ra):
Links to a guide on how to restore premium on the Android version of the game.
restoreios (restoreapple, ri):
Links to a guide on how to restore premium on the iOS version of the game.
android11+ (a11+):
Provides instructions on setting up a file explorer that can be used to download maps on Android 11 or later.
modding (md, mods, mod):
Links to a tutorial on how to install mods and commonly used modloaders for the game.
mobilefriendly (mo):
Provides info on what sort of maps are usually considered "mobile friendly".
iosmaps (im):
Informs the user about when/how maps can be installed on iOS.
debugmenu (db, debug, dbgm):
Provides instructions on how to open the games debug menu.
ncms (ns, ou, ncmsobsolete, ncmsoutdated, outdatedmodloader):
Informs the user about the fact that NCMS is obsolete.
mapsearch (ms, msearch, searchmaps, mapfind, findmaps):
Provides instructions on how to find maps in #🌐map-downloads and #🌐✔cool-maps.
Proper command usage: ~answer help_type (optional)target_user
This is kind of a dumb question, but how do I make larger maps?
Need more ideas
woah super cool
The center lake kinda stands out. Maybe make it more interesting?
How can I make it more interesting?
Maybe make bigger, add an isle(at the middle of lake)
Hmm thx
Make the coastline less like a puddle.
It should have a sense of scale
there is no reasonable scale
just look at the size of trees and houses compared to people
How do you make a map that is full of lore?
Like a beast that die and left its bone and got covered by soil?
Or maybe a lake that turn lava because of some creatures got slayed by bbc?
Anyone have an example?
Made a more user friendly version of python image2map by
https://github.com/gloop-6/worldbox_map_creation
just run the python code and respond to what it prompts u
Also doesn't have image size or map size limit like #🔁map-conversion does do to running it urself
Yeah, much better
@storm elk funny story
i was with the person who made this and we troubleshooted this
wait is it possible to download maps on ios or nah?
If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
@vital peak
Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
interesting
ill probably make a rewrite of it that uses a gui some time, probably after the big update comes out
oh ello
did add some extea stuff
like heightmap
tho base functionality still there
rest only accessible if modifying code
fair
i plan on making that entirely exposed to the end user since there isnt a good way to rn
Yeah having to say yes or no to all that in console is just a hassle lol
UI only good way
well i have a config file for it but it's not granular enough
Oh yeah forgot that existed ngl
cause did end up cutting it out
due to me originally just modifying the code to run it on android
back then didn't realize the file operations work just fine on pydroid
i actually slightly updated the code for mine yesterday due to there being a bug
what was the bug?
what I posted was pretty much me just modifying the already modified code I've done before so uses the input function to tell what to do
the config for the image scale was a single int and it was expecting a size like [576,576]
ye
yeah did encounter that when first modifying the code
i also type hinted (some) of it
I didn't even know what tuples were before that lmao
so learned something from making the code work
i wrote this damn thing like a year or two ago and the code for it is kind of ass
ye
ill probably redo it from the ground up
Imma try to make a map converter on code pen again so can have a gui
cause originally in my map converting journey on phone only was able to use code pen io successfully do that
runs on html and javascript
honestly the only important thing is the tilemap code
Original Pen by James N Wasson with help from Welling Guzman at https://css-tricks.com/manipulating-pixels-using-canvas/ Currently the choose file isn...
abandoned this cause I kept running into some inexplicable invalid array sizes or index errors when loading it up
oh yeah
ngl a hell of a lot better than the old one though, that one was cursed
what was it like lol
Oh god
looks fine??
hoping my old shit still works
id also like to add structure support, i know i screwed with that a long time ago
Hm?
Oh yeah did make a map expander script
does have the functionality to have it not be centered if bother tweaking the input into the functions
The ultimate goal would be making 3rd party map editor / creator
like placing stuff like houses
so can modify everything without slogging through the text
thankfully the next id variable be stored near the top of a map file
so not hard to keep track off
considered that but like at a certain point thats just worldbox with extra steps
seeing as you need mods to place down buildings modify clans and etc
is nice to have a 3rd party editor
yeah thats fair
seeing as devs aren't giving absolute freedom over every game mechanic
it's supposed to be a sandbox game qwq
and yet some stuff untouchable / not doable unless edit the map file
most annoying thing to deal with in a map editor is probably gonna be the people cause they do show up in several places for same person due kingdoms en such
hm
and ig the visualization and ui
cause that's what makes the whole thing user friendly and workable
the main thing that makes it user friendly in my experience is it taking as little installation and such as possible
just in general
ye
is doable to just use a github page or similar site to do the job
Imma take a crack at doing a map converter with ui in java script
Then move onto the full map editor
well the only reason i compiled it to an exe is just so it wouldnt require an install
welp time to learn how to html + image processing in java script
?
oh yeah that is a thing
Same goes for frozen stuff
grass on fire is saved within the map file
Thankfully they aren't zones so pretty simple to shift them over if expanding a map size
you sure like map lmao
ye
i usually just use list comprehension for that
was dissatisfied with this servers original map conversion code
and didn't have steam for mod access
hence why i recoded / made all of this
so glad i stumbled upon ur code
thanks for making it 👍
do you know what the index represents? is it like bitpacked
or is it just like a tile index
It's the entire map as a 1d array
so 0 is bottom left corner
1 is to the right of that etc etc
then moves up 1 row when hits map width
lmao i think i figured that out right as you said it
filled an entire map with it and
i mean thats usually how its done
cause its only one type so it doesnt make sense to have it be a 2d array
Ah rightt
noise generators used for map
its just a list of locations where fire is
wheras for the tilemap any location can have a number of different tile types
those be 2d
Only thing ever represented in the tilemap is just integers corresponding to the index of a tile type
thats what i mean
game would still work if it was a 1d array
though seeing as tile amounts exist I'm guessing it's for performance reasons
cause like technically ain't necessary
thats more a run length encoding sort of thing iirc
2d vs 1d array is basically identical, its just that one has more explicit boundaries between rows
aight
lemme do something dumb rq
oki
weird, when i edit one of these files and then recompress it it fucks it up
whatever there
Progress going well so far
If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
@zenith parcel
i did it from scratch actually lol
or rather i copied a mandelbrot function i already did
oh my god i was just dumping the string twice 😭
huh
yummy
yeah it lets you put in whatever you want for that
doesnt work for mood sadly
negative health also just goes to 1
lmao
I made one of my units favorite food gold before. They weren't very happy.
Ok got closest distance way vs human vision corrected way math
which looks better?
cause i can't tell lmao
hm idk
welp
https://codepen.io/Deathrobloxian/pen/pvzvPJj
finally got a working thing
(outputs a map.wbax file)
I am shit at web design lol
toggling the random dithering or auto resize on and off will update the preview image
will add moar over time
How to download map on mobile?
👍
Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
@lime raft
to do list
- add Floyd–Steinberg dithering
- copy and pasting preset
- premade heightmap preset
the first one is pretty easy
im doing it without a library -w-
algorithm does seem simple enough tho
Got heightmaps workin
added link support :P
random dither + heightmap be pretty neat
Tweaked heightmap a bit and got this
Oh im lvl 80 now...
It's so nice being able to adjust heightmap on the fly
welp still have to fix converting it to map.wbax
ok thankfully was just a minor oversight and quick fix
pretty neat look when throwing in stuff randomly lol
Return of the acid map lmao
000000,040404,080808,0c0c0c,101010,141414,181818,2c2c2c,303030,343434,383838,3c3c3c,404004,444444,484848,4c4c4c,505050,545454,585858,5c5c5c,606060,646464,686868,6c6c6c,707070,747474,787878,7c7c7c,808080,848484,8888888,8c8c8c,909090,949494,989898,9c9c9c,a0a0a0,a4a4a4,a8a8a8,acacac,b0b0b0,b4b4b4,b8b8b8,bcbcbc,c0c0c0,c4c4c4,c8c8c8,cccccc,d0d0d0,d4d4d4,d8d8d8,dcdcdc,e0e0e0,e4e4e4,e8e8e8,ececec,f0f0f0,f4f4f4,,f8f8f8,,fcfcfc,,,,
preset if wanna use it urself
#🌐map-downloads message dragonstone not having a village is just targ hate
but W map tho
Thanks! It's true I had never thought about it, but as the island is really small I prefer to leave it as a ruin. And the boat system is still not perfect so I limit the islands as much as possible (I hope they will improve that in the next update🙏 )
Welp uh messed the dithering up lol
i htink
idk
non dither for comparison
height map non dithered vs dithered
Context for this code is that image be a 1d array with repeating RGBA
ohh foudn the bug
ge and be wern't set correctly
There we goooo
Floyd–Steinberg dithering implemented 🎉
oh
um
glitchyness galore ere
ok dithering doesn't work well with large images it seems..
for whatever reason the tiling only occurs when trying to do heightmap style presets
Could someone please create a Mexico world for me , including the ocean depths, only the basics bioms
You could probably find one by searching in #🌐✔cool-maps or #🌐map-downloads
You can use discord's search function to find what you need in #🌐map-downloads or #🌐✔cool-maps!
- (If on mobile) be in #🌐map-downloads channel
- Tap on the search icon in top right corner of screen
- If non mobile user type
in:map-downloadsand then click on #🌐map-downloads
- Type in the keyword of map you want to search for in the search bar, and press enter.
- Example: typing earth into the search bar will bring up earth maps.
If still unsure how to use search look at this discord support article: https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000468588-Using-Search
The only map I've found is in stats.json
That's an old map save type. I think the game is still able to load it.
Once you load it in game I think you can just save the world to another save slot to convert it into a map.wbox if you want.
I try it but it doesn't work properly
I guess you can try using a north/central american map instead
Only I have an issue, I'm from mobile and I don't see any for mobile friendly
This looks to be one. Not sure why it's called africa: #🌐map-downloads message
How do I download maps on mobile?
How do i download maps through stream workshop? Subscribed to it but it won’t show
Searched through the sever and couldn’t find anything mentioning it
And sadly the wiki also doesn’t mention it
Ignore me
I found it out
haha
I was going to answer you
My apologies insomnia been whooping me 😂
Any mobile friendly Greece maps yall know of?
Oh I'm alone lol
This is sad
Ollo
Anyone there
Echoooo
🙏
Anyone know how to actually use the maps on mobile bc Everytime I install a map I can't do anything with it so if anyone knows the whole process then please tell me thank you
- Go to map downloads
- Search Greece
- ???
- Profit
If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
@kindred vine
You can use discord's search function to find what you need in #🌐map-downloads or #🌐✔cool-maps!
- (If on mobile) be in #🌐map-downloads channel
- Tap on the search icon in top right corner of screen
- If non mobile user type
in:map-downloadsand then click on #🌐map-downloads
- Type in the keyword of map you want to search for in the search bar, and press enter.
- Example: typing earth into the search bar will bring up earth maps.
If still unsure how to use search look at this discord support article: https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000468588-Using-Search
@celest oyster
I like that map
Which
the map to your heart
Weirdo
Any Maps of Europe? without mountains, and as big as it can be for a mid range computer
😔
I need the map from the vid form gorg: four kingdoms fight for immortality
apparently if you do something like grass on top of lava it actually changes its color in map view
doesnt do the same for water
and yeah you can put tiles on any other tile in the save format
Not yours Jodi the chicken boy
Gm guys
Choose your favorite
Right or left
Remembering, I will publish the most voted image
its just math
it’s the mandelbrot set
Can someone help me, I wanted to download the map of Europe with all the countries already, but it doesn't work on my cell phone, it simply doesn't load.
Hello
well it's to big for phone then
There is no one that has the countries in the world since it runs on the Moto E22 cell phone
???
Bruh there's plenty of all the countries map of reasonable size
just find a smaller one that phone can handle
For a phone with 4gb of ram gonna hit upper limit at around 15x15
My cell phone has 4 GB RAM, I'm Brazilian, I found a map with countries only in Europe, which doesn't open
ngl if i had to guess id imagine it'd be well before that
oh wait might have my orders of magnitude off
hopefully i dont screw up the math but uh
15 chunks is 960 tiles, so a 15x15 map is 921600 tiles total
no clue how much memory a tile takes up internally, at least a few bytes for the coordinates and tile id, but the actual sprite is 8x8 pixels so assuming its not compressed in memory that's 256 bytes per sprite (assuming these are all loaded in at full res, since worldbox turns them to single pixels when zoomed out)
and 256 bytes x 921600 tiles is 235,929,600 bytes but i doubt it's holding each individual tile's sprite into memory so it's probably not actually all that much
-w-
I had a 4gb phone and ran map sizes up to that
This is the largest i think
damn neat
You need to install Zarchiver, then also download the image
Then select the map and image going to Download, then go back and then into Android>Data and then search for file that says com.mkarpenko.worldbox and then go into files>saves and then create a new slote for example
if you have save1, save2 and save3 then create a file that says "save4"
And then put the map and the image in that file and then go onto game and enjoy 🙂
Additionally have to uninstall updates on the files app
(need shizuku if android 14 or up)
Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps:
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps
I'm going to publish both worlds because they tied
do someone have a map of middle east ?
You can use discord's search function to find what you need in #🌐map-downloads or #🌐✔cool-maps!
- (If on mobile) be in #🌐map-downloads channel
- Tap on the search icon in top right corner of screen
- If non mobile user type
in:map-downloadsand then click on #🌐map-downloads
- Type in the keyword of map you want to search for in the search bar, and press enter.
- Example: typing earth into the search bar will bring up earth maps.
If still unsure how to use search look at this discord support article: https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000468588-Using-Search
@digital parrot
The aforementioned four maps look very promising.
Thank you !
WIP
@knotty hamlet How do you make the map connect with the other?
What do you mean?
I want to put this map in the new one
If you use a imaging program like gimp or PS have the main map overlayed atop the larger image, draw some basic merging colors in between the two.
Wheat color on map from fully grown to just planted
ffeb93
74a926
20b22b
2a8e31
wheat_3
wheat_2
wheat_1
wheat_0
How do I add a map from here onto a world?
If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
@short olive
iosmpas
decided to remove two planets
How to put the maps in WorldBox iOS?
are there any good aot paradise map? like I mean good scale and wall setup
If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
@flat oxide
My pc has a virus...
But thx for the help
Hi, so, A long time ago I made this map, and now I decided to make the map larger, and make the rest of the continent
BUT! I have like, no idea what shape could I give it?
Does anyone have any idea or smth?
And is this even a proper place to ask a question like this?
(deathrobloxian posted it for me, cause I cant post pictures here, not yet at least, I think)
Does anyone know, like, THE Best Pangea map out there?
the twelve mortal realms, the background gives more detail to the map
Are there any more biomes in the upcoming update?
forma?
hey! Does anyone know how to integrate the maps I download with the game?
Yes forma
the game centaura
Pls
In the map downloads
Please🙏
try searching it on game banana or steam workshop
look at the maps that the game generator itself made, they are beautiful
Imo, the second one ins the only good one here
anyone got a pangea map
I tryed
You can use discord's search function to find what you need in #🌐map-downloads or #🌐✔cool-maps!
- (If on mobile) be in #🌐map-downloads channel
- Tap on the search icon in top right corner of screen
- If non mobile user type
in:map-downloadsand then click on #🌐map-downloads
- Type in the keyword of map you want to search for in the search bar, and press enter.
- Example: typing earth into the search bar will bring up earth maps.
If still unsure how to use search look at this discord support article: https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000468588-Using-Search
@static surge
How do I download a map on my iPad?
If you own a PC, you can install maps on iOS as described in this guide: #1213490166023331850 message .
Otherwise, if you only have your iOS device, it's impossible to install maps on iOS because the operating system refuses to give you access to the game files that you'd need to insert the map into.
@fossil moth
what does world size even define?
iceberg worlds are 9x9
but what if i want to convert a value that isnt exact
like 9x9.5
can anybody find the skyrim map in the downloads? i cant find it
apparently snow block can be put on top of stuff like soil
Well yeah
it doesn't care what the underlying base is as long as it's valid
yeah ik that for stuff like grass (in the original image to map i made the soil high and soil low is accidentally reversed for all the biomes lol) but despite what i thought i dont think you can put any tile on any other tile
yeah i tried road on top of snow block that didnt work
Yeah road snow block and etc be only for 2nd layer
ye
I used the reversed stuff as way for biomes that can't get overgrown lol
any way to prevent roads from decaying btw?
oh huh thats a thing? neat
without modding the game no
how's that work
terrain not being as intended that's what
Lemme go test that rq
ok nevermind they do 😔
misremembered
@celest smelt yeah stuff just spreads normally even if mismatched
rip
well my new image to map is progressing well
i got all the sprites for the tiles (gonna use them as icons, with all luck), i just need to add some stuff like a file loader for selecting the image, and functionality for disabling tiles, and also world laws maybe
gl
most of the effort is just programming the gui rn, i could get this fully working if i ignored gui pretty quick
Welp valid base tiles be
deep_ocean
pit_deep_ocean
close_ocean
pit_close_ocean
shallow_waters
pit_shallow_waters
border_water
border_pit
sand
soil_low
soil_high
hills
mountains
lava0
lava1
lava2
lava3
grey_goo
Oh just figured out can make biomes permanent if base tile be non soil
neat
ok using grey goo as a base tile has weird effects




