🌐map-discussion

[arctic hamlet]

Write ~c plus the size you want (up to 25) with the image attached

[bold bear]

#🌐map-downloads message my first map ever

i found it

finally

#🌐map-downloads message aw man

[weak tundra]

@here does anyone have a king of kings achievement map?

[wanton merlin]

So dope! What size is this?

[thorn estuary]

someone do a map of arda (the entire lord of the rings world beyond middle earth

https://youtu.be/VqtctLFviUc

[bright fern]

Morning everyone
I have a question
How can you upload maps on mobile?

I posted a screenshot of my map and some people told me to upload it
But I don't know how

[fast mulch]

its good?

greek-persian war, based on the movie 300

[mystic cipher]

yes

[muted owl]

can you like remove some mountains cuz turkey and spain are just impossible

[celest wigeon]

Search my name in worldbox downloads there's a playable and unplayable version

[muted owl]

CHECKMATE I JUST FOUND YALLS SECRET

[edgy lantern]

And he got a map by the last air bender/avatar

[daring dew]

can you add rivers

[celest wigeon]

Already plan to make a river version i just gotta tidy it up cuz of the heightmap conversion

[daring dew]

alr

[bright fern]

I can't make constellations

[muted owl]

make the L Gate

[bright fern]

what's that?

[celest wigeon]

Stellaris shenanigans

Legit just a satellite galaxy or star cluster

[muted owl]

a cluster outside the galaxy

[muted owl]

everybody gangster until the ai opens the gates with the grey tempest in the early game

[stone herald]

Help

I need a ww2 map

With provinces

Mobile

100 person

[muted owl]

hey yall

look at the cool map i posted in #🌐map-downloads

or else

[remote geyser]

@muted owl your map is mobile friendly?

[muted owl]

probably

its not iceberg

so i think it is

[merry valley]

Anybody got a map of the full Naruto world

[cyan valley]

Hello

[lofty karma]

nvm it worked

[stone herald]

☭

[lilac imp]

[stone herald]

What

☭

[peak thunder]

I think we need a cooler cool maps

[keen hawk]

I have a few in the works that I'm just too lazy to complete 😂

One is a Han dynasty map

[peak thunder]

I feel that

Just finished another one though

Motivation kicked in

[keen hawk]

Also, I just feel that, "is it worth it?" It's going to get buried by a deluge of other maps anyway

Especially with the Map Creator role being handed out like popcorn

[peak thunder]

True

I just like looking back at them

I like the style

Always post it on the subreddit as well, karma farming

[keen hawk]

I only ever post my maps here

[peak thunder]

Mhm, most do

I wonder how the map section is on steam

Guessing most pc players look there for maps

[flat magnet]

Did anyone here have the king of king trait map?

[pliant junco]

😁

[half tree]

How do you get maps on mobile i tried to load a "mobile friendly" map and it just gives an error

[desert python]

Someone please make a Hyperborea map

[nimble panther]

Link to map that gives King of Kings achievement, as well as a few others potentially:
<#🌐map-downloads message>

[nimble panther]

Probably a broken map, or you installed it incorrectly

[wanton merlin]

@knotty hamlet new map looks so good man! Do you take commission for custom maps? I’m looking for a really big fantasy world for when Isekai is released

[knotty hamlet]

I can only go so big in terms of map size, I think the biggest I could run/work on is a 30x30 maybe. If you have a map design I would be glad to try something new.

[wanton merlin]

Yeah I think 30x30 would be sick. I can’t send images In here so check DM

[bright fern]

is there a way to download map for IOS?

[nimble panther]

Nope

[still panther]

@modest gust Message me personally i have one

[drifting basalt]

Hi guys

[muted owl]

hey yall
check out my cool new map i posted in #🌐map-downloads

[bold bear]

gah how do we force styder to come back

[peak thunder]

create a time machine

its the only way

tbh he did mostly only make real life maps, was getting pretty stale

[muted owl]

?

[near bough]

Anybody know any good maps for the cold war or ww2?

[muted owl]

Im making one

its not done yet

[gusty harbor]

Anyone know a map with a unit with all traits

[delicate geyser]

Is there a mobile-friendly de facto world map?

[spice pilot]

Guys how u make so detailed border

And alliances on purpose

[rustic lake]

mods like collectionmod that have tools that let you do alliance and kingdom stuff

[spice pilot]

Im on mobile 🥲👍

[arctic hamlet]

#🌐map-downloads message if you have a pc

[gleaming pasture]

hi tell me if you want a collab

pls in dm`s

[sleek elk]

Can someone make a Italy map?

[celest wigeon]

Ingwe outperformed me cuz he added biomes & rivers

[keen hawk]

It helps that the base image already had biomes

It just needed more work because the mod is unfinished

So some parts had poor biome transitions

[arctic hamlet]

#🌐map-downloads message It Isn't detailed as It says

[gleaming pasture]

Im doing The best map ever

You'll see

[celest wigeon]

@willow meteor please credit my good friend @bright fern in ur creation

[willow meteor]

Yes

I put there

[celest wigeon]

There we go

[willow meteor]

see

[celest wigeon]

Ty bro

[bright fern]

lmao

[willow meteor]

Thansk for the map

Is the biggest one that I see before

[bright fern]

np np

[gilded slate]

Old map is gone I need a new map for traits

Anyone got one?

[celest wigeon]

All elves have the child of moon trait

Child of night trait spawns randomly just find someone

Pumpkin mtfs have throns

The androids have the shield

Lust is also random

Same as fertile and it's counterpart

[gilded slate]

K thanks

[celest wigeon]

The other trait it needs to be age of tears and spawn 100 tornadoes

[mystic cipher]

Morbius universe season 2 map?

[rustic lake]

Is the map conversion bot able to make biomes other than grasslands like savanna and arcane desert? If so, what is the correct color for the biomes as I keep getting only grasslands or non-biome grass.

[slender ore]

how to use a map tho? can it use on android? or just on pc?

[iron oxide]

How do I download maps in android?

[keen hawk]

Not the bot, no. The bot hasn't been updated in a long time. You'll have to download the actual converter program itself to do most (not all; the candy, arcane desert, crystal, and lemon biomes were added in a later update of the game and the converter program hasn't been updated since) of the other biomes. See the pinned messages in this channel for the zip file. It also contains the colour palette with the exact colours used by the game.

[rustic lake]

Thank you!

[gleaming pasture]

What do you guys think about The consept of like a map with The mongol Empire with modern countries

Check out My new map

I was gonna do a collab with @bright fern but he did not want to Make IT so i did.

[echo river]

does anyone have an updated map of middle earth?

[peak thunder]

Pc or android

[gilded jackal]

Can someone make a Vietnam War map

[honest fulcrum]

Is there any tools to convert jpeg images into world box maps?

[keen hawk]

Either use the map converter bot or the converter program itself

The zip file is in pinned messages

Since it only takes in a .png file for input, convert the .jpeg file into a .png file first

[vast sierra]

Why only PNG though

[peak thunder]

png is the best

[lost crater]

yea

[night aurora]

ai dont like using that programme all to much

because when zoomed out for some reason it'll match the colour

but zoom in, there is no proper tile for the actual map

nvm i am just dumb

i think its because i've been using Jpegs though

[bright fern]

Comment en installe une map

Sur téléphone

[night aurora]

nope i was right, that software doesn't work

shouldn't look like that

[fair fiber]

Is there any way to upload maps from mobile?

[nocturne stump]

Yes but I'm firstly not mods

[fair fiber]

if i cant then im buying premium

but

im not going to be able to play on a bigger screen

and on bigger maps

so would be cool if you guys told me any way to upload maps from mobile

[muted owl]

hey yall check at the cool map i made at #🌐map-downloads OR ELSE

[keen hawk]

The only reason that happens is if you're using the wrong colour

In order for the right terrain to come out properly with the converter, you have to use the exact RGB values used by the game

That isn't a problem with the converter, that's a problem with the one who's making the map image

[mystic whale]

someone make a map with all npcs characteristics please i need it

[night aurora]

Well this is a portion of the image I was trying to convert, and as far as I know, this is using the correct RGB, and it is a PNG

and I was using the palette in the pins too, so I am not sure how wrong I could be

[bright fern]

||this is the easiest part of the map||

[bright fern]

Oh god

Is that the holy roman empire

Oh god please no

it is indeed the holy roman empire

[north crater]

should i add biomes to the map im making or keep it green (i just started it like 4 mins ago)

[keen hawk]

Are you even using the right program? You probably downloaded an older version

I just used it recently when I made my latest map and it works perfectly fine

So it's either you did something wrong in the base map image or you're using the wrong version of the converter program

[night aurora]

im using the one here

[keen hawk]

Are you using the Image++ one?

[night aurora]

Yeah I think so

[keen hawk]

In that case the issue is on your end

[night aurora]

like this?

[keen hawk]

Yes, that's the one

The issue would have to be the map image itself

[night aurora]

but i dont understand

i am using the palette that is also in pins too

as in this one

[keen hawk]

Double check the RGB values

[night aurora]

alright

but how would i do that?

[keen hawk]

I don't know which art program you're using

[night aurora]

i am using a website-ported version of photoshop

essentially photoshop

[keen hawk]

oh

That may be why

Download GIMP and use that instead if you want a free art program with basically the same functionality as Photoshop

[night aurora]

mk i'll try it

it still didn't work :/

i think the image to map software just doesn't like me

because every other time i tried using it, it wouldn't work either properly either

and what i dont understand is that it knows image and tries to convert it, but somehow i think it is inverting the colors in some way

[fast mulch]

u can explain me how u use Gimp to make maps?

[fast mulch]

I have GIMP open, but I don't know what to do

[keen hawk]

I use the same program and I have zero problems

Since the program clearly works as intended, the problem has to come from your end with the base map image.

[keen hawk]

Depends on what you're trying to do

There are so many things to consider

[fast mulch]

I'm trying to convert the image colors to the WorldBox color palette, and then convert the image to a map

[fast mulch]

i am trying to make a map in this style using GIMP

[fast mulch]

can you explain to me how i convert the colors?

[celest wigeon]

Depends, can be done by getting a land mask, a height map, and a satellite image and converting using colors then

using the layer feature ofc

[night aurora]

eh ok

i'll probably stick with the map creator in the server

maybe i'll revisit the maptoimage thingy in a future map

[vast sierra]

Map to image? 🤨

[fast mulch]

I'm going to do it using a satellite image, but how do I convert the colors and use this layer feature?

[celest wigeon]

A yt tutorial could explain it better than I could

sorry

😭

[fast mulch]

Unfortunately there's no tutorial on youtube on how to make maps, just a Styderr video that I can't understand anything.

But I will try to search

[fast mulch]

at least can you pass me the color palette you use?

[celest wigeon]

won't let me

[keen hawk]

That's actually worse since the map converter bot hasn't been updated and doesn't contain any of the biomes since the first biome update

[keen hawk]

Look at the top message in the pinned messages in this channel

That contains a zip file

[fast mulch]

I know

[keen hawk]

The zip file contains both the map converter program and the colour palette

Which is the .aco file

[fast mulch]

Ok

[keen hawk]

You import that .aco file into your art program

[fast mulch]

Thank u

[night aurora]

true but i cant seem to have the app work for me, so worse may just be better for me

[slate shell]

Can anyone help me turn my world into a file?

[vast sierra]

Why would they

I don't understand a single shit in that message

They probably don't even know where the map files are located

[true pelican]

Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps

[vast sierra]

Do you even know what you are talking about

And do you even know who I am

You need to go to the saves folder, do you know what it is

And it's in the different locations depending on their device

Yes? Who do you think I'm talking to

It looks like they're playing on iOS, so no chance

So professional, huh

[bright fern]

hey can someone make a map of the philipine that is ACTUALLY good and make it big

sent it to me

ok

??

):

when

): ok

oh ok

where the download butten

ok

[celest wigeon]

Working on something I shelved again.

[bright fern]

i want one

you lie

yes

):

i know what is it

but stop

i want a map of the philipine that is ACTUALLY good and make it big

real this time

ok

?? when

ok i guess noone wanna help

yeah i see

but it not even goood

it did not

i see

since you " TRY " 2/10

ill look everywhere to fine the right one

ill look for a good one

ok go feed your fake family seeya

[celest wigeon]

[bright fern]

In what program is this done?

[grim thunder]

can someone make a asia map with all the modern countries in it?

[rugged wadi]

could someone make an australia map

[celest wigeon]

Wilbur (I don't know where the fuck I got it)

Look up make maps with wilbur on YT

tutorials and hopefully the download link

[muted owl]

if someone recreates wins 0 dollars

[celest wigeon]

Why don't you do it

ez

[bright fern]

coming soon

Why are there people posting map images with no downloads in the download channeo

[ember thorn]

Can I install the maps on my phone or its possible only with the computer?

[fast mulch]

the same happened to me

[south basalt]

how do u fix that a world after putting a map.wbox file in the save folder the world still doesnt appear in the saves in the worldbox

[eager coral]

⚠ Warned emiGG1234#8238

[flint locust]

how do i put these into my game

[bright fern]

What do you think?

[bright fern]

I feel like people put the bare minimum into map creation sometimes

it's not that deep but like

damn bro

just image convert (insert continent here) enough times with zero modifications & you'll get map creator eventually

some people do a little more than just image convert but others don't even switch up the way the water looks and it's like damn man

these maps aren't cool

these maps are hardly even mid

im talking about things posted in #🌐✔cool-maps btw, #🌐map-downloads is chill & I love the variety of shit there. Tbh an image converted horse is 100x cooler than the 1000th rendition of America could ever be but that's just subjective.

nyway i wasn't tryna make any serious statements, been there n done that

just wanted to talk some shit about maps that shouldn't be put up on a pedestal imo

especially when there are people making amazing, original maps themselves in map downloads that won't get 1/5th the recognition that someone like Briel would.

[arctic hamlet]

i can confirm i'm on fire

[remote geyser]

@spice needle ASOIAF?

[spice needle]

I just ported the thing to Worldbox, my friend originally created it but yeah. It's inspired a little bit by asoiaf/got

[remote geyser]

The map is cool

[spice needle]

Thank you!

[remote geyser]

👍

[remote geyser]

What...

[celest wigeon]

Main reason why i exclusively post fantasy in Cool maps (exception being my "Atlantis" series) all my real world stuff stays in map downloads

[bright fern]

That Atlantis map is dope & I dig the concept & execution. I don't think things like that are really the problem because you had something original to add to the idea yfm.

It's appreciated though.

[night aurora]

yea i'll never understand why that happen

[steel willow]

Hey can I repost your usa map it will be better

[fast mulch]

yes

[steel willow]

Thank u

[fast mulch]

Can you give me feedback on what you don't like about my maps?

[deep viper]

How do I get to my saves folder?

[bright fern]

finished

[night aurora]

oh ye i stole your map on accident sowwy

im not sure if you saw on the screenshots i sent yesterday but that was indeed ur map 😉

[celest wigeon]

🤷🏾‍♂️

Im still tryna decide if this is cool enough

if not im might just post it in #🌐map-downloads

[bright fern]

Gladly, sorry if I wasn't descriptive enough. I'm busy right now so I'll talk about it later.

[celest wigeon]

Briel yo maps are good, they all are handmade and are simple fun to play on

[bright fern]

Give the water some depth and I think it'll give the map a bit more personality.

[celest wigeon]

oh yeah I did pick up some brushes for that

alright i'll diverge from my signature deep water oceans

[bright fern]

Same map but with trees and rocks

[night aurora]

It looks awesome to me, but personally (Just going off what I do) have less curves in the landmasses and in the mountains, I get it's supposed to be snow but having (semi-block) curvy mountains just aren't my cup of tea, and with the landmass, its shape is amazing, but just like the mountains, maybe just have fewer curves. (Especially on the non-sand areas on the coast)

[celest wigeon]

I didn't personally make the map I saw it online and was like "That looks cool" so I traced it and just fiddled around with some mountains

in reality it was heightmap testing

[night aurora]

ah ok

[night aurora]

oh okay i see

[shell lagoon]

i just scribble some stuff down

[fast mulch]

thank you

[jade badger]

Looks a little like Narnia

[muted owl]

what an unfunny troll

bro literaly never posted anything on the server

[bright fern]

What?

Really?

Hahha

[jade badger]

Yeah look really good tho

10/10

[muted owl]

AcTuAlY iTs A -1/10 BeCaUsE iT mAkEs No SeNsE 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓

[jade badger]

You're not funny

[wet walrus]

How can you convert images into maps in mobile?

[nimble panther]

#🔁map-conversion

[winter matrix]

i just downloaded a map from the map-downloads channel can someone tell me how to put it in my game? (im on p.c)

[gleaming pasture]

Go to check My map

Its a goat For europe map 🐐🐐🐐🐐

Im The best

Every YouTube crying because they did not Make a best map like me 😎😎😎

[gleaming pasture]

@muted owl im better a goat of europe map

@winter matrix 1v1 on Clash royale

@bright fern im better than you

[gleaming pasture]

@fast mulch Look mymap

[drifting garnet]

any one have a map of a bunch of islands for a battle royale type thing

[cursive tree]

What do you guys think of my recent Goofy Ahh Horse map?🐎

[fast mulch]

So goofy 🤣🤣😂😂🗿🤓💀

[hushed folio]

Hello, is it possible to download maps on iOS, or iPadOS?

[random acorn]

does anyone know any good settings for map generation

[arctic hamlet]

no

[ashen turret]

I really want a map that has lots of fire and lava and just pure heat

[gleaming pasture]

Check My new map

IM THE GOAT

🐐🐐🐐🐐

[nimble panther]

Don't insult goats by comparing yourself to them

[gleaming pasture]

You are bully

#eveeryone why you disrespect My map

So much

[sleek wadi]

Is there ways to ban people from posting in #🌐map-downloads ?

It'll be funny

[thorn estuary]

ARDA MAKE PSL

[arctic hamlet]

no, but post like nsfw could be deleted and warned

[sleek wadi]

Even the stuff lel posts?

[arctic hamlet]

what is it

[mystic cipher]

ngl arda map kinda mid

[twin nexus]

Where is the files for android again?

[charred bone]

Android/data/com.mkarpenko.worldbox/files/saves/

[late yacht]

Lel is the 1st candidate

[peak thunder]

it is mid because there was never a good official map for it

[twin nexus]

Thanks

[charred bone]

Welcome

[muted owl]

no

[arctic hamlet]

do i?

[muted owl]

hello yall check out my cool map i posted in.... #🌐✔cool-maps or else

[night aurora]

why does the map conversion bot detect my snowy mountains for grassland?

[muted owl]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-idk-i-dont-know-who-knows-gif-17348455

[celest wigeon]

I don't even use the bot no mo

[rich pike]

Nah some wallard has put some corrupted file as a map download and its filled up all my saves with the bs

I cant delete the file either it just comes back

[nimble panther]

Which one?

[rich pike]

It was on the cool maps section

Lemme double check which one again

It was the “Listenbourg map”

But that same guy seems to post a lot so idk if ive just messed up somewhere or if its the file he sent out

[rich pike]

was posted 6/4/23 9:19

[nimble panther]

Can you send a screenshot of your saves screen so I can see what's wrong?

In #🚑help-chat

[rich pike]

Yeah sure

[eternal sun]

that palestine map is gonna blow up with arguements 💀

@dusk yoke you've just started a war

[dusk yoke]

😈

Funniest thing is someone wasted their time to "fix" the map

[eternal sun]

did they change it to israel

[dusk yoke]

Yup

Mods deleted it i think

Or the dude folded 😂

[eternal sun]

im neutral in the conflict so instead of israel or palestine i put britain lmao

[winter matrix]

im gud

[night aurora]

well its not like i can use the application, since that dont work

[fast mulch]

Israel***

🇮🇱

[eternal sun]

fair

im neutral so

[vale thistle]

What?

I never made a map.

why Tf was I pinged..

[arctic hamlet]

Propably Ghost ping

[vale thistle]

No it said smth abt a Israel map

I never even posted any map

[eternal sun]

how about instead of calling it israel or palestine we call it levant @fast mulch

like

the map

[peak thunder]

Finally a great Beleriand map, awesome

[jade badger]

🥰

[night aurora]

why does the imagetomap thingy make maps that look like this for me still?

[celest wigeon]

It works perfectly fine for me

[night aurora]

ok so i did an experiment

this is what it looks like when i put in the palette

but it should look like this

and i am not sure if its the contrast or something

but for the kind of most part the palette stays the same

but for actual maps for some reason it cant recognize water, or anything that has a higher elevation than grassland

and weirdly enough it seems to be more stable when I use a jpeg but of course when using a jpeg with this, it won't work properly.

[lament thunder]

can somone tell me how to dowload maps ty

[night aurora]

can someone else try downloading this file to see if it odd for them too? im not sure if its my game or this application just doesn't work

[celest wigeon]

Palestine got ratiod by Israel 💀

[night aurora]

💀

[keen hawk]

As I suspected

[keen hawk]

Thanks 🥰

[keen hawk]

What version of the game are you playing on?

[thorn estuary]

#🌐✔cool-maps message

BALERILAND (1st age arda when )

ISSSO NICE

[night aurora]

the latest I believe

[proper tendon]

Tf is that I only know 🇵🇸

[night aurora]

ignore quality

[keen hawk]

Check your settings

[keen hawk]

Oh there it is

Well then the problem has to be with the art program you're using

The converter program itself works fine

[thorn estuary]

Arda when👁️👁️

[keen hawk]

If I find a decent, highly detailed base map image then maybe

[thorn estuary]

I have one and a climate map

[keen hawk]

Post please

[night aurora]

I still find it hard to believe since i used your gimp thingy and it still resulted in the same thing

[keen hawk]

Unfortunately those are not blank maps

They have labels

[thorn estuary]

https://youtu.be/VqtctLFviUc

Bruh

[keen hawk]

Blank maps without any labels are needed for good maps

[thorn estuary]

.(

I will dig

[keen hawk]

Are you using the right .aco file?

Did you make sure to convert the image to RGB mode?

The recent maps I posted (and the maps others have posted) should be overwhelming enough proof that the map converter program itself works as intended

[thorn estuary]

A unlabelled but very bucket toolable map

[keen hawk]

Unfortunately not the entirety of Arda

[thorn estuary]

Most of it, where the story is happening

Here’s a map to interpret the bottom of arda

[night aurora]

wait i didn't know how to export as an aco file considering it isn't adobe, plus i don't know how to convert to RGB, i just tried making map in the software thats all

[keen hawk]

[night aurora]

[keen hawk]

First off, post a screenshot of your GIMP

I need to see how you set it up

[keen hawk]

No, I mean the program as a whole

[night aurora]

oh ok

[keen hawk]

The entire art program

[night aurora]

i just opened a png from yesterday

[keen hawk]

Okay the setup is fine

As for importing the .aco

Click Windows -> Dockable Dialogs -> Palettes

[night aurora]

yeah i see it

as you can see it is all ing RGB

[keen hawk]

Also select Palette Editor as well

Both dockable dialogs should appear in the tabs either to the right or to the left

[night aurora]

I dont see a palette editor.

[keen hawk]

As long as you have Palettes open it should be fine

[night aurora]

mk

[keen hawk]

Now go to the Palettes tab

[night aurora]

ye

there's the colormap and bear

[keen hawk]

Right click anywhere inside the Palettes dialog box

Then you should get a right click menu

There should be an Import Palette option

Then it's just a straightforward matter of selecting the .aco file you have from the zip file you downloaded from here

[night aurora]

this one?

or that may not be it

[keen hawk]

What's the file name

[night aurora]

of the image or the aco? because i dont think i have an aco file

[keen hawk]

It's definitely included in the zip file

You probably just don't see the file extensions

[night aurora]

here?

oh i see it

[keen hawk]

Bottom one

[night aurora]

im blind

[keen hawk]

Import that into GIMP

[night aurora]

ok did that

[keen hawk]

Now select that palette in the palette dialog box

It should now be your active colour palette

If you want to see the labels for the colours, right click the colour palette and select Edit Palette

The Palette Editor should get opened as a new dialog box

You'll be able to see the labels for each colour there

[night aurora]

is this what i should see?

[keen hawk]

@night aurora Did it work?

[muted owl]

civ 6 maps be like

[thorn estuary]

Dry and dusty

[muted owl]

huh what is that

[thorn estuary]

ARDA EHEN

[muted owl]

i need that

[keen hawk]

Yes, that's the one

[night aurora]

ok but i dont see any labels

[keen hawk]

Make sure to drag it into the rest of the tabs in the dialog boxes

Click on each colour

The labels should show up below

[night aurora]

unless that 0001 thing is the label

oh ok got it

[keen hawk]

It should say soil, frozen_soil, mountains, hills, etc.

Is it working for you?

[night aurora]

no it just says untitled

[keen hawk]

That's unfortunate

Well either way, the palette is now working

@night aurora Now you have to solve the issue of RGB mode

[night aurora]

well i painted the palette colors over the image and it looks to be the same

[keen hawk]

Go to the top menu bar and click Image -> Mode -> RGB

[night aurora]

ok i did that, but it doesn't look like it did anything

[keen hawk]

It does do something

It matters

Now redo all the colours for your map image

It doesn't matter if it looks the same, just do it anyway

[night aurora]

wait how would i redo the colors?

do i just use the fuzzytool or whatver its called and paint in it?

[keen hawk]

In the toolbar buttons on the left side of your GIMP window, look for Select by Color

Or just press shift+O

[night aurora]

kk

[keen hawk]

Look at the dialog box for the Select by Colour Tool

Lower the threshold to 0

And click the first Mode (Replace the current selector)

Make sure Antialiasing, Feather Edges, and Sample Merged are all unchecked

Then just click on the colour you want to replace

Once selected, use the Bucket Fill Tool to fill the entire selection area with the right colour

[night aurora]

Ok I did that with each colour

should I export and see it works now?

[keen hawk]

Make sure to export as .png file

If it still doesn't work then the problem has to be with your game

[night aurora]

alright

OMG

thank you so much man

but sadly it didn't load in my white mountain

[keen hawk]

Did it work correctly now?

[night aurora]

yes

[keen hawk]

Yes everyone is having that problem right now because of the addition of Ages

[night aurora]

eh but overall its good

[keen hawk]

That's why we've been pestering Maxim to add a second mountain terrain type

Basically a frozen mountain terrain higher than the current mountain tile that never thaws except during the Age of the Sun

Anyway, until that's fixed, no frozen mountains/frozen hills will work as intended

Still use them for your map image though, in case it gets fixed in the future

[night aurora]

Yeah it works with the map conversion bot rather than the app sadly

[keen hawk]

Do it with the app, not the bot

[night aurora]

I will from now on

[keen hawk]

You cannot do the other biomes without that program itself

Since the bot is not updated

Also, as you can see, the colour palette contains more colours

A lot of those are the other biomes

Some are things like the different lava tiles, fireworks, roads, fields/farms, etc.

The only ones not included are the tiles for the crystal, lemon, candy, and arcane desert biomes

[night aurora]

mk

but thanks to you i can make a higher quality england map

and im not sure if there is a helper role in this server, but if so, you definitely deserve it

ok so now cant i just take the palette from the proper palette of the new image and just use it on the software i use? since itll be easier for me

[keen hawk]

I already was a helper a long time ago

[night aurora]

oh ok

[keen hawk]

Since then I learned that I simply do not have the patience

And so I'm not a helper

[keen hawk]

Just use GIMP

GIMP is better

[night aurora]

alright

[keen hawk]

Familiarise yourself with the various tools

[thorn estuary]

[bright fern]

This map was going to be a little bigger but I couldn't find a size that would fit it

[keen hawk]

What do you mean?

[bright fern]

use an existing map to create my own because the map sizes mod is not updated for this version

[keen hawk]

That doesn't matter for converted maps though?

You don't need any special map size mod to create a custom-sized map

Just increase the size of the image canvas in your art program

[bright fern]

Is there a way to just increase the width?

[bright fern]

yeah next time I use the conversation map

[keen hawk]

Just make your map image using an art program then use the map converter

That way you have no limits on map size

You can even directly edit the map you have now

The only size requirement is that the image size needs to be in multiples of 64

[bright fern]

Can I edit just the width?

[keen hawk]

So 640×640 or 1024×1024

[keen hawk]

Yes, just use the preview.png from that map's save folder

And open that with an art program

Make sure to remove all trees, rocks, ores, and plants you added first, then save the map

That way the preview.png is clean and ready for editing

[bright fern]

omg

Thank you!!

[keen hawk]

Enjoy 👍

[quasi garden]

how do i download a map onto worldbox? i have the download for the map I want but idk what to do now and i can't find anything on how to do it

[true pelican]

Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps @quasi garden
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps

[quasi garden]

thanks

its just the command shift g thing doesnt work on my computer but ill figure it out

[bright fern]

I just have to put this image in the save folder?

[keen hawk]

No

Are you trying to edit it inside the game or using an art program?

[keen hawk]

What do you mean

[quasi garden]

i fixed it

[bright fern]

art program

[keen hawk]

Then start by loading the map inside the game and removing all trees, plants, rocks, ore, etc. from the map, then save it

After you saved it, take the preview.png from the save folder and edit that using an art program

Using the art program, increase the canvas size of the image and do the rest of the map using the art program

[bright fern]

ooh

[keen hawk]

Once you're done, save the image and use it with the image to map converter program which you can download in the pinned messages in this channel

That zip file also contains the colour palette file to get the exact colours used by the game for the different terrain types

If you want to see a full tutorial on map making using an art program (like GIMP, which is free), then just scroll up and read the conversation I had with someone else above

Everything you need to do is exactly detailed in that conversation

[bright fern]

@keen hawk

[keen hawk]

Then you can just continue doing the map in the art program

Make sure the size of the canvas is in multiples of 64

And for further reference, a 1×1 map chunk in Worldbox is equal to a 64×64px image

And an Iceberg size map is 9×9 chunks, which means the image size would be 576×576px

Keep in the mind the size of the map in Worldbox when determining the canvas size of the image

[bright fern]

So I can't put a 12x56 map? for example

[keen hawk]

If your PC can load it, sure

That's up to you

12×56 = 768×3584px image

I doubt you can even play the game with a map that massive, though. It will just lag, if not crash your game

[echo river]

Pc

[thick tundra]

map the games of trones please !!

[devout compass]

where is image to map mod thing

[peak thunder]

#🌐✔cool-maps message

[oblique plaza]

Hey, so I was wondering how to get map files from the steam version of WorldBox, because I made a map that's not a normal map size for worldBox, and I'm trying to upload it to a place called GameBanana.

[gleaming pasture]

I Post most goat maps

Whach it

🐐🐐🐐

[gleaming pasture]

Yeah i Post goat maps

[gleaming pasture]

No im im first class flight to goat meetup

[muted owl]

https://tenor.com/view/shotgun-crusader-door-enter-gif-17792300

[peak thunder]

Really like how you left space for Gondolin, have those volcanoes as peaks and of course grand Doriath. Was thinking of making it myself as well but I just didn't have the confidence as I haven't read all the books fully

And I have my hands full with a Tamriel project

[keen hawk]

Unfortunately Tumladen isn't a viable village spot due to how small it is

Can't properly recreate Gondolin as a result

[keen hawk]

Ooh what kind?

[peak thunder]

Interactive map of Tamriel in the second age using Azgaar's map gen. Planning on using it to host a game in the future, the picture shows cultures which I've completed so far

Got inspired by the wbox map I made of it

[keen hawk]

I see

That would indeed make it easier

[celest wigeon]

I just live hammerfell and high rock probably the best area on the map for me 💀

Everything else is mid

[fast mulch]

Thanks man! now I can make good maps!

I will try to convert it in the ImageToMap program

the program also worked correctly

but i still don't know how to add rivers or mountains

[keen hawk]

Pencil tool

Old-fashioned manual drawing

[keen hawk]

Also, keep in mind that the colour palette you're using is missing the other biomes

Use the right colour palette file

[fast mulch]

ok

[wanton merlin]

hey @keen hawk when im in gimp trying to replace the colors from the pallet it doesnt actually replace w/ the colors when i use the bucket tool

[keen hawk]

Are you in the correct layer?

[wanton merlin]

i was yeah i figured it out im just new to gimp haha im used to photoshop

[keen hawk]

👍

[wanton merlin]

the only thing im still not understanding is how to view the names on the pallet so i know whats what for the converter @keen hawk

[keen hawk]

Look at the image posted by Briel above

Upper right dialog box

That's the Palette editor

Click the colours and it should show you the labels underneath

If the labels are blank for you, then view this link and manually rename each colour in the palette yourself using the labels from here: https://aco-viewer.appspot.com/d9bb7d8f9ec46fa986d8434df02496b4

[muted owl]

nothing happens in that game

[peak thunder]

It's not a game, It's a tool from which you can do a multitude of things including using the map as a board for a seperate game

[muted owl]

I dont like it

[bright fern]

@keen hawk hello bro after this what do i do?

[keen hawk]

Just draw the rest of the map?

[bronze moth]

yo anyone online?
i need a map maker to make me a map
for me
dm and ping me if you can 🙂

[oblique light]

can anyone help me? I'm trying to find my 'saves' folder for worldbox, but can't find it anywherew

nevermind

[bright fern]

i dont understand

[keen hawk]

What is there to not understand?

You already increased the image canvas size, now just draw the rest of the map then use the map converter

🤷‍♂️

[bright fern]

aaaah

[sleek wadi]

Love that program

[mystic spade]

is there any good middle earth maps?

[candid citrus]

is there a way to get bigger maps with the default generation?

[sudden wadi]

when i loaded a map into saves the preview comes up but i cant load the world, can only save another world in its place

map is json btw

[restive bridge]

Hey @arctic hamlet i'd like to ask that, have you ever made a WW2 map?

[arctic hamlet]

Yes, updated few times

[restive bridge]

Oh ok, but i don't see any WW2 map posted by you in #🌐✔cool-maps and #🌐map-downloads

[arctic hamlet]

Try searching with @bright fern my old account (rip, still miss It)

[restive bridge]

alr thanks alot

[night aurora]

now that I have the image-to-map thingy working, would you guys say that this British Isles map is better than the one I previously posted?

[delicate echo]

should i do my kaiserreich map with or without american civil war?

[modest sequoia]

Did any try out sd to prompt a map

[icy mantle]

who have a map of all the world

[fast mulch]

any map suggestions?

[sleek wadi]

What kind? I think a well made lava island one would be interesting

[quaint sluice]

I think so

[quaint sluice]

Can you post this map?

[eager coral]

⚠ Warned emiGG1234#8238

[nimble panther]

Go to #📷worldbox-screenshots if you want to show off your map, you need to include a download file if you send it in #🌐map-downloads

[arctic hamlet]

Make the Just cause 3 map

[sleek wadi]

@bright fern usually you're supposed to add the map download file in #🌐map-downloads

[flint pond]

How do I send my map I want to ask for advice

[arctic hamlet]

Be level 10 or go to #📷worldbox-screenshots

[flint pond]

okay thanks

[digital zephyr]

how to upload maps to my game

[dense ether]

A map to get all the achievements?

[eager coral]

⚠ Warned emiGG1234#8238

🔇 Muted emiGG1234#8238 for 1 day

[arctic hamlet]

Upload your map saves here.
Map saves are located at Android/data/com.mkarpenko/
Important: the new map format is called map.wbox - the map.json files are the old format and outdated

[vast sierra]

Look at their roles, they're probably playing on an iPhone

So, no, they wouldn't be able to get their save files

[arctic hamlet]

ops

[night aurora]

yea but just not now

[bright fern]

@hazy oyster

@hazy oyster

@hazy oyster@hazy oyster

@hazy oyster

@hazy oyster@hazy oyster@hazy oyster

@hazy oyster@hazy oyster

@hazy oyster

[eager coral]

👢 Kicked Lord Varnes#9847

[quiet nest]

what mod lets you have custom map sizes?

[nimble panther]

SimpleGUI I think, but it isn't publicly available

[arctic hamlet]

why not??

[nimble panther]

The mod dev decided to update it more often but require a small monthly subscription for access to updates

[keen hawk]

Just use the map converter to get a custom-sized map without needing to get a mod

[celest wigeon]

I've always wanted to make a Warhammer fantasy map, but when i go on total war Warhammer 3 for reference it goes from the thickets mountains to something completely random bro 😭.

[fast mulch]

@sterile plank this map you posted is very old lol

maybe I'll remake the map

[sterile plank]

Wait but I stole it from skdd

[fast mulch]

🤫 👽

[sterile plank]

[fast mulch]

I'm remaking the map

[sterile plank]

Oh damn 😮

[real garden]

how do you even put the maps into the game

[lunar acorn]

How do you download maps on iOS

[sterile plank]

That’s the neat part, you can’t

[bright fern]

https://youtu.be/eHei1_UQ4ss

Need to install za archiver first

It's a secure app

[thorn estuary]

#🌐✔cool-maps message mortal empires when 🙏

[vast sierra]

Did you even read their message

That video is clearly for Android, and no, you can't on play any third-party maps iOS without jailbreaking

Also, YouTube tutorials sucks ass anyway

[ember shale]

all these maps and no one ever adds my Bermuda to them in Atlantic Ocean

Do we not exist? lol

[keen hawk]

If I find a good, complete map of the Warhammer world

[thorn estuary]

Yey

[keen hawk]

Right now the largest you can download is this one I made ages ago: #🌐✔cool-maps message

But that doesn't extend all the way to Cathay

[jolly zenith]

Guys?

Where do I find the ww2 europe map?

[dawn pumice]

wait wait wait what are you using??

[final kite]

How do I add downloaded maps into the game on android

[dawn pumice]

is it that hard to find on google

search up "how to download maps into worldbox" should be the first thing

[arctic hamlet]

Bro Just scroll up there's a video

[hot plank]

Is there a palette for road tiles?

[keen hawk]

The RGB value for road tiles is already part of the colour palette bundled with the image to map converter zip file

Which you can see in the pinned messages in this channel

[fast mulch]

Gimp

[dawn pumice]

k

[quaint mortar]

Anyone have a good map of the east coast of North America with mountains?

[vocal junco]

someone gib mobile friendly world map

[keen hawk]

Just search for a map that is 10x10 or lower in size.

"Mobile-friendly" just means the map is small enough to be loaded by mobile phones.

[steel monolith]

I wish i could jailbreak sometimes

[molten sequoia]

Should I make an entire mediafire folder of all the maps I can find?

With the png and wbox file under each category

[proper escarp]

is there a king of kings map

where you can it easily

i found it but

I followed this tutorial and it didn't work

[charred bone]

The latest map in map-downloads is literally for kok

[charred bone]

Why?

[solar apex]

How do you download maps on iOS?

[keen hawk]

You don't

iOS does not allow tampering of system files

[solar apex]

Ok

[sterile plank]

@fast mulch progress check

[lofty karma]

can someone make a huge map of the korean peninsula or south korea with it's provinces already placed 🥺

[lofty karma]

yes, maybe add a bit of france ig

[fast mulch]

What

[rich bluff]

honestly wth is wrong with map downloads nowadays

[night aurora]

nah

[eager coral]

⚠ Warned emiGG1234#8238

🔨 Banned emiGG1234#8238 for 4 weeks and 2 days

[hallow oasis]

Hello. I am kinda new and I want to know how to download map on Android?

[nocturne stump]

Yeah you can.
But you can not do mods

[pastel depot]

Do y'all know how to download Map on Android ??

[high valve]

Hi

A question how can I use a downloaded map on android version

[night aurora]

Ok i just got done refining the edges of a bigger version of the ireland map, should i post this to #🌐map-downloads along with the update british isles map?

[queen python]

Does anyone have a map of Belarus?

[jade badger]

@bright fern you cant text in #🌐map-downloads

[rare juniper]

How can I download maps I’m on iOS btw

[daring dew]

you cant

[rare juniper]

Why not 😭

[daring dew]

apple doesn’t allow people to access the files for some reason

the only way you could is if you can jailbreak the phone

[rare juniper]

Apple allways ruining shit

[daring dew]

lol

[rare juniper]

Theirs another way I know it requires pc

But it’s too much work

[daring dew]

it’s not that hard

[rare juniper]

Anyway Thank u for ur wisdom great one

[daring dew]

you’re welcome

[fast mulch]

Any map suggestions?

[true pelican]

Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps

Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps

Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps @bright fern
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps

[lofty karma]

korean peninsula that already have kingdom/villages

[arctic hamlet]

Just Cause 3 map

[bright fern]

nect project

[radiant cove]

Does anyone got a world map ? Of the Titanic size? (For the phone) dm me please

[fast mulch]

I haven't found any maps of this game that are satellite or have biomes on the internet, so I can't add biomes.

[eager coral]

🔨 Banned ляляял#8085 indefinitely

[echo thistle]

has anyone done a map of skull island from the king kong movie?

[frosty thistle]

Have you heard from a friend who is in charge for this year and is looking to be a part of the team of the equator of the equator of a day?

[pliant swan]

How do you download maps (Android) I'm new 🥲

[true pelican]

Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps @pliant swan
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps

[arctic hamlet]

try modify this

[fast mulch]

I still cannot know which biome to insert in each region of the world.

[arctic hamlet]

there aren't any biomes in the game other than temperate

[bright fern]

How do i upload a downloaded map

[thorn estuary]

i did it myself

[manic slate]

can you put snow on mountains without it melting?

[night aurora]

yes

[keen hawk]

No you can't

Not anymore anyway

The Ages mechanic always results in frozen mountains and hills melting when it isn't a winter Age

[celest wigeon]

The biggest L

[raven horizon]

there should be eternal snow button in world laws tbh

[keen hawk]

Not a world law, but an actual, separate frozen mountain tile, perhaps called something like "frozen peaks/mountain peaks"

That way it can be frozen in all Ages except during the Age of the Sun

[torpid forge]

If you're on PC, you can use the modded 'select tile to draw' tool and place snow which never seems to melt for me, even in the age of sun. I think it comes with NCMS

[crimson widget]

Hey I'm recreating the land of ooo from adventure time tell me how I make finn and jake's house

?

[pearl sable]

HOW TO DOWN LOAD MAPS

[flat magnet]

Anyone here have a king of king achievement map?

[rich bluff]

NVM

[vague walrus]

East Mediterranean Please

[gusty sand]

I think that already exists

[jade badger]

._.

[dreamy shadow]

I need a Asia map with each country borders marked

Pls 🙂

:))

[icy spoke]

someone can create a map of the universe from the anime: "Avatar: The Legend of Korra", in the middle between the 1st and 2nd season

[keen hawk]

I already made the Avatar map, see here: #🌐✔cool-maps message

Unless you mean with cities and kingdoms in it

[icy spoke]

Oh, thank you

[keen hawk]

Just keep in mind that it is a blank map. It has no villages and kingdoms in it, so you have to place them down yourself.

[celest wigeon]

I used that map to make one with cities and kingdoms in #🌐map-downloads so just search my name there if you want a populated version

[high valve]

Hi

I need help

How can I use a downloaded map on android version

[true pelican]

Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps @high valve
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps

[rare juniper]

Is it for ios?

I hope they can make away for us nonjailbroken IOS users to get maps maybe make a method like simpleplane has that we can get on the game too

[bright fern]

for the biomes use the example mod?

[gleaming pasture]

Guys imma drop For some goat map tonight 🐐🐐🐐

[gleaming pasture]

I hotchus

[vital willow]

I love me a mean map

[real garden]

is there like a tool that helps you make worlds larger than iceberg?

who is this user

[clear thunder]

Kntl

Astaghfirullah

[tired silo]

how u make a map bigger then titanic

[rancid notch]

how does someone load a map made by the map conversion bot?

[sand plover]

How do i load a map into my worldbox world on samsung mobile?

[peak thunder]

Ingwe is the best map creator no doubt about it

[celest wigeon]

[manic swallow]

How do I download and use maps on android?

[raven forum]

Does the #🌐✔cool-maps work only in pc?

[fast mulch]

No

[raven forum]

How do you use it in android?

Please help Im new here

[exotic fractal]

How do I download a map for android

Same

[true pelican]

Follow this guide to see how you can install and upload maps @raven forum
https://the-official-worldbox-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Maps

[raven forum]

It doesnt work for me..

[exotic fractal]

Yea same

[bold bear]

yo can someone make terraformed mars map

[fast mulch]

The first color is from the middle ocean, the second is from the shallow ocean, and the last ones are from the deep ocean. Just insert one of these colors into your image and the bot will recognize and convert it.

[bright fern]

Does anyone have an Afghanistan civil war map?

[hollow terrace]

Is there a way to let worldbox use more of ur CPU to run larger custom maps?

[glossy zealot]

1-1000 scale of the earth

[cold elk]

Does anyone have a map of the entire world with all of the countries on it?

[stoic epoch]

try using the discord search in #🌐map-downloads or #🌐✔cool-maps

[bright fern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vQJizArzjY&ab_channel=Wrathmanxs

is using the map i made!!!!

[static nimbus]

Hey does anyone have a good Canadian map?

[faint fractal]

do we have an updates pallet?

[gleaming pasture]

Rate My mapping

[fast mulch]

0/10

[fast mulch]

No

[arctic hamlet]

I think there Is already one

#🌐map-downloads message

[fast mulch]

This is a map I made from a random drawing.

[arctic hamlet]

Like the drawing

[bright fern]

guys how would you do this part of my map?

[arctic hamlet]

what's the scale in like meters/miles

[bright fern]

from the area? well...

I don't take that into account

[arctic hamlet]

If it's on a small scale, it can stay that way; otherwise, you can add small details.

[bright fern]

aah I thought you wanted the number of miles and that haha

it's a small area

[arctic hamlet]

if you wan't you can create more valleys between the mountains, or expanding them

[mystic cipher]

I think you should add deserts and swamps in the mix

Like swamps in between grassy, hot and cold biomes

Also desert would be nice

[keen hawk]

Instead of the river being the boundary for the savanna/desert and the forest/plains, make the mountain range the boundary

This is how it works in nature because of the phenomenon known as "rain shadow"

[bright fern]

I think you should give more information. Plans to make a territory based in Asia

For more context this area would be like Russia in my fantasy world

[celest wigeon]

What ingwë means is that, geographically your map is incorrect, there would ve no savanna or desert in the region. The region, being right next to the coast wouldn't have the dryness necessary to allow for either biomes to exist.

However i feel as if you're going for looks rather than correctness & in that sense, good job so far keep it up i feel you're one of the few who actually would deserve map creator 💀

[bright fern]

thank you

Thinking about it, I think I could change this area for something tropical

[bright fern]

I already uploaded my map

[olive scroll]

Uploaded on #🌐✔cool-maps

[muted owl]

Most creative biome name in WBX: Great Tundra, Great desert, Great Arcane Desert

[vital willow]

Dry Desert

[short wind]

how do you use the image to map converter

I downloaded it and it is not working

it will only give me a png

[keen hawk]

Could you please tell me how you used it, step by step?

[alpine fractal]

Map converter also don't work for me
I give it the smallest image, and the converter oversizes it to the limit, which causes WorldBox to stall my PC because the map is too large

[keen hawk]

Define "small"

What's the exact size of the image you used?

[alpine fractal]

80x80

[keen hawk]

As in 80×80px?

[alpine fractal]

Yes

[keen hawk]

In that case, no wonder it didn't work

The image size has to be in multiples of 64

Smallest is thus 64×64px

[alpine fractal]

Oh k

[keen hawk]

Next size is thus 128×128px

And so on

[alpine fractal]

So 256x256 and 512x512 works too

[keen hawk]

Yes, as long as it is multiples of 64

For reference, iceberg is 9×9 chunks, which means the image size is 576×576px

[vast sierra]

Why wouldn't it

[keen hawk]

Because each map chunk in the game is 64×64 tiles

[vast sierra]

Image sizes doesn't need to be a multiply of 64, they'll just resize it anyway

[keen hawk]

Thus the converter also operates on that equivalence

[keen hawk]

That's precisely what you want to avoid

And that's precisely what happened to the one I replied to

[vast sierra]

What would you want to avoid

[keen hawk]

Your map getting resized by the converter

It results in either massive overscaling as what happened to the guy I responded to, or it results in various degrees of stretching

[vast sierra]

What's bad about it

[keen hawk]

A frequent occurrence in a lot of Map makers who are not familiar with the converter

[vast sierra]

There's no difference in convert an image with 64x64 and an image with 80x80

[keen hawk]

Not only does map resizing result in your map getting distorted, it also results in wrong terrain popping up in certain places due to how the converter works

[vast sierra]

The convert will resize the map to be able to fit it in the wbox map tile format

The 80x80 will be resized to 64x64

[keen hawk]

Especially in instances of different terrain types meeting at a boundary

Forest and water boundaries, for example, result in random hills appearing when the converter forcibly resizes a map

[vast sierra]

What