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who does?
for the multiplayer mod is it like minecraft where the other person needs to download your mods too? does it only work with vanilla ?
go in worldbox help
it is nice to see a multiplayer mod tho i remember emailing maxim 6 years ago about it when i was younger xd
okay
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@remote gate LET ME BACK IN SO I CAN HEAL YOUR CLAN!
ig thats it for gen chat tonight
Dunno
[REDACTED]
let him know to let me back in tho
@split sapphire bro
i command to be let in the name of rokku's dead corpse
you dont MISS that creature
do you?
heresy
i deserve that throne
@tiny meadow Hey checking your mentions in the worldbox smp minecraft server discord server sounds like a cool thing to do
@tiny meadow Become the heir to the Pumpkin Empire
what if you did that\
dont you dare.
Ok
you are evil
what kind of name is freaky meat anyway I hate that
I AM a necessary evil
@fallen sierra pumpkins
oh its anti fun day
Rip
Yes
Goodnight Evan
How do I unlock all the features?
B
aparently my inalambric mouse's battery just died
now is basically just a normal mouse lol
make a giant TNT cube up of the village and watch the chaos
Its a server
They'd fuck up my shit
What server
shit
Here we go again with yet another QOTD from me because people keep leaving the queue with only like 1 or 2. Whatās your favorite piece of side content from a game that was entirely optional and not at all necessary to finish it?
Mods
Boi
Hogwarts legacy side quests bruh
Especially the ones with poppy
how many low ranks can we sacrifice for the resurrection of rokku
All white ranks
And preferably a pinch of butterfly and grasshopper
When i say pinch
I mean all of them
Does it include myst colors?
the correct question is how many are we willing to spare for Rokku
Wynncraft
I wanna kill every single fuckin citizen in Nesaak rn
What's rgat
Holy dead chat
3 hours of queues to refuel
@tidal glacier @spiral surge rate my new chair white boy
Why is it so dark
It pisses me off how after ww2, the soviets took what is now Kaliningrad, and demolished the still standing Kƶnigsberg castle, just to replace it with this fuckin thing
dude I kind of like being sad instead of happy because time runs slower when your depressed lowkey
Why do we want rollu back
jerky
redraw
woah dude thatās a goat, man
it is a goat
man I agree
dude my display name just made me realize what if I made my name like an anagram of something super crazy and just waited for people to find out
Or like some sort of cipher
i thought this was minecraft š«©
general
@wicked nimbus worldbox rp4 is over
i killed off my character after he admitted to wanting to ask out his crush
who's rollu
rokku
Rokku
thats rokku
you said rollu
Contemplation
@prime onyx my core problem with organic centralism is that without a certain level of internal democratization, does the party not just become what one man wills it?
while bordiga was near-always correct in his assessments and his actions
what of the man who succeeds him?
and the man who succeeds him?
and so on and so forth
holy shit worldbox discord is falling off
does the party, in this post-revolutionary world, not simply become the totalitarian arbiters of society?
Oh shut the fuck up
600k members and general chat is this slow
i can understand the organizational structure- even if i disagree with it- in a pre-revolutionary environment, but this highly centralized āscientificā party Bordiga speaks of is just a red-tainted technocracy
If I ever wake up and one of those horror movie ghosts grabs my ankle from under the bed I will counter by scrambling over to the other side of the bed and reaching down and grabbing its ankle
Brodie
Shut up
who is this kid
How do you not know him
i know who he is but heās a nobody
Sure mate sure
Debate me boyy
Everyone knows you as the weird communist kid here šāļø
arenāt we all
@tranquil loom do you want to know my main issue with Kurdish separatism?
why do i get pinged at least once in the middle of the night in thsi server
Hell
Read what I have to say on organic centralism
why is Western Sahara independent
I donāt like debating politics it feels too pointless cause it wonāt ever actually change anything it just makes me annoyed
Read poopkompenshevkonvisky's 67 communist rules guys
itās a transnational coalition of political partied and one of the involved parties was from the western sahara
no nations are real
@fiery anvilco
@fossil wolf certainly did
Yuh uh
i used to do this but it wasnt the ussr anthem it was just gay remixes to rap songs
(In this day and age too)
@feral zealot
you dont even know my positions
leave me alone boy
middle school was so fucking gay dude
I thought fakher was banned
consider the backport idea too.
Fakher is dead.
Where is the Chevron Corporate State
He has not said a word
that whole fucking school was gay
the bolsheviks at one point were less than a dozen in number
and i was like
change will come
the overlord of gay
@feral zealot your not still banned right or was that more than a month ago
No
No tf I did not
genuine soyjak
who is this chud
(friedrich ebert)
oh
a social democr*t
Debating is not just to prove someone wrong.
Its a way to learn of other people's point of view.
Its just mainstream political debate ruined how people view debating.
Capitalist or communist social democracy
no joke i was gay as shit
Because they lowkenuinely have the same name
Redditors before the internet
You dont know anything boy
communist social democracy doesnt exist
like if the school had a homo contest iād prolly be like top 15
It did
my hbās were gayer
The social democratic parties, in their youth, followed a marxist programme
nah we arent actually gay
by ebert's time they were all liberals unfortunately
we just did gay shit
Modern 'social democracy' is literally welfare capitalism, no?
The lassalleans and the reformists had their factions but the social democracies were solidly marxist for a good bit
exactly
except anything physical
its just welfarism
thats ACTUALLY gay
socdems are satan
I love welfare 
tbh taxi i always thought you were closeted
warfare
I love people
Banned figure in the image
Ehh? Ebertās right-wing of the SPD was absolutely liberal and capitalist, but the left-wing social democrats of the SPD who split off were marxist, and in the interwar period the SPD returned to a fairly socialist programme (while actively disavowing the breakaways and the KPD and KAPD)
taxigayter399 ā¢ļø
fair enough, i suppose
Who was it
ITS BEEEEEEN SO LONG SINCE I LAST HAVE SEE MY SON LOST TO THIS MONSTER
Oh
Okay
Would you rather eat potatoes raw for the rest of your life or all the drinks you consume be slightly muddy
should i mention my character is gay
can fish be gay
shooting someone for being gay is highkey gay as fuck
You HAVE to at least eat 6 potatoes a week too btw
okay
š
Did we need to know
i was lettin resident know
Was it really informative
What would slightly muddy taste like
like the amount of estrogen you need to initiate soyrage and threaten a gay guy is like exceeding the normal levels of gay
I wonder why we have dms
Crunchy
if youāre picking up what iām putting down
Dirt particles get in your teeth
Ah
Might taste a lil earthy
The worm
real men donāt even hate gays we just aurafarm in the sunlight
I belive in a direct democracy
"yall got any marxism"
"we got abysmal dogshit"

lassalle was closer to communist than the social democrats of the 1970s onwards
Some gay guy tried hitting on me
real straight men kiss other men
literally every leftist space in the internet
the true movement has fallen
.gg/communism
Actually nvm youāre a minor
Its funny at the two symbols that are black are not there because I am on midnight mode.
I am straight
I mean as long as it won't get me sick maybe the slightly muddy drink?
syndic*lism
and anarch*sm
Drink slushy
Both of them are mid ngl
Raw potatoes would just kill me
syndicalism is just feudalism but with more steps
Pretty sure they're safe unless green
man when gay dudes starting getting flirty with you you just gotta announce the fact that you like the XX chromosome but on some chill shit so the woke shyts donāt suspect you of homophobia
But communism is bad
I take it back then nvm
What dude
drugtwt
> āthats just state capitalismā
> loves markets
im pretty sure this happened to me once
Lumpen
AAGJGGAJJGJAJ
I believe in Criminal Governments
ay bro dms closed š¹š
Raw potatoes would work
certainly better than bourgeois society
fuck you
March 23rd movement
Authoritarianism vs rich people existing (oh the terror)
WHAT
communism is theoretically better but like it will never be as sustainable cause of greedy people
"market syndicalism"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism
Feudalism, also known as the feudal system, was a combination of various customs and systems that flourished in medieval Europe from the 9th to 15th centuries. Broadly defined, it was a way of structuring society around relationships derived from the holding of land in exchange for service or labour.
The classic definition, by FranƧois Louis G...
Dictatorship of the proletariat vs. dictatorship of the bourgeoisie (oh the terror)
@fossil wolf rp5 has politics i think you might like it
they all got the drip on so can you blame them š§
I dunno man the bourgeoisie are more controllable by the people vs proletariats
Goo goo ga ga
āThe owners and controllers of all society are more controllable by the people than the overwhelming majority of the populationā
I wish I could cut my brain in half so I would have another person to talk to in my head
Youāre a child
Idk pro
You come to me with infantile words
Ma Ma
More reasonable than what Beef is spitting
dude you donāt gotta do all that
Goo goo ga ga
Fluffy monster men
kissing???
maybe
Cuddling
im here to
Some MAGA folks are questioning Trump's involvement in the Middle east and not focusing on America more.
How tf would the majority rule in communism āļø
Unless it was very local
Like village locak
everytime i go to sleep i instinctively grab onto a pillow as if it were a romantic partner because i know a innocent young boy like me will never achieve happiness in a world full of evil foids
syndicalists or feudalists
whichever one wears better clothes
One has no drip, the other does.
unironically evil groups always have some fire uniforms
Wait
what is worldbox about
No just fictional
Like the U.S military equipment is so peak ngl
Historical isn't good at all
"yeah bro syndicalists have drip"
the drip:
this is deadass the average person in seattle
I have no idea how politics work but how would communism even be properly managed without some centralization of power like it sounds great but it also seems kind of destined to fail
Where did you find a photo of me
You mean LA and New York?
new york is literally known for having style
crackheads in new york got more style than the average chud in seattle
$10000000000 rent btw
Ze realtheory
That's why many places opt for market socialism instead
buts its all good tho cuz we got ramadamin with sultan mamdani
A social dem?
2 rats fighting over a bagel in a metro station
the supreme leader of the socialist caliphate
Honestly it can theoretically work with a centralized computer planning, there's a theory for cybernetics planning of communism tho it sounds dystopian
$ā
Socialism are much practical to work with
this has deadass happened before
I know
There was a fucking news headline on it I think
Not a good time for that
a news headline for rats fighting over food
how fucking bored do they have to be
Most New York thing Iāve ever seen
some guy probably got shot that day
Why is Nintendo suing US?
I love New York Chinese New Year
and the news is covering literal rats
Is that a joke?
zohran mamdani is just a satanic reincarnation of ferdinand lassalle
Let me read
@timber plinth Regarding the āvanguard partyā as an elitist inner circle, Lenin was among the first within the bolsheviks to push and push strongly for the widespread democratization of the party + the left-SRs and mensheviks held post within and helped maintain the russian state. The left-SRs would largely break from the main party and join the bolsheviks (after a failed coup attempt, btw!). Lenin also was not at all an authoritarian commander of the party and he was routinely disobeyed, censored, or otherwise criticized by fellow bolsheviks most notably figures like Zinoviev and Kamenev when the bolshevik revolution began, as they went to an opposition newspaper and leaked the plot to the provisional government, and yet despite Leninās insistence they be removed, they stayed. This is not how an authoritarian or a totalitarian organizes his party, nor is it characteristic of a particularly centralized party
not reading allat
itās meant for just matty basically because he has misconceptions about Lenin
anyway what are our thoughts on the ārevolutionā
Oh its Tariff related stuff
alr
communist or reactionary
Apparently they want a refund
just in general
Did Nintendo patent tariffs
Of what?
Odd cybergrind background
š
if its communist then Oiljohn Approved
otherwise rejected
Since the supreme court blocked trump's tariffs it signaled the tariffs were illegal, but Nintendo already paid for it during that time the supreme court reviewed
Since it's now illegal, Nintendo wants to be refunded of their losses related to tariffs.
this is my main criticism of organic centralism (red technocracy) and the solution is democratization of the party
revolutionary totalitarianism only works for the revolutionary period
@unique parrot
Ok Nintendo might be right for this one...
For once
And only once
First time I'm rooting for Nintendo suing someone
following dissolution of state and the beginning of a socialist economy, the party needs to be democratized
Ah
Fair enough then
This is probably the only time we support them
Lol
The scary part is this will set a precedent for everyone else too so if they win the USA is kinda fucked
Also the gulf states are considering to pull out of the $3 Trillion investment for america after the chaos
Comes after china agreed to help them regarding Hormuz
(Chinese vessels are whitelisted to pass through by Iran)
Classical Communism is dead and Modern Commumism (Authoritarian communism) is the thing.
Indonesia ia considering dropping out of Board of Peace because of the American bombings, which is kind of a big hit as Indonesia was the one who gave BoP credibility in the first place
There is no such thing as Democratic communism or "true" communism.
I feel like the democracy of today is causing more problems than it solves
Yeah we should have a Direct Democracy tbh
There is a such thing as true communism and itās anti-democratic
If youāre interested in a critique of democracy from a communist perspective, The Democratic Principle, as much as I disagree with it, is a good place to start
Educated and uneducated holds the same voice so now the elites will just try to keep the uneducated stupid to keep the status of quo os loudest voice being the winner instead of wisest voice
āDemocracyā is an idealist myth
"Communism" is also a idealist myth
all democracies that have existed have been extensions of power by the ruling class, institutions by which to impose their will
in what way
Honestly if yall want a voting power it honestly is more efficient for society as a whole to have rigorous selection processes to obtain voting power, while the state can utilize that it would ironically still result in a smarter voting voice
As to achieve of a workers utopia is to achieve a one of oppression
Communism is not utopian
A worker is meant to be free no?
No communist believes in utopia
What about the edgy tiktok communist teenagers
They arent communist
True
They just there for the aura farming red edits of the sickle and hammer
Wouldnāt saying you love peasant imply that theyāre peasants because theyāre low and thereās someone above them
worst timeline ever conceived
Rate my city
dont leak fallout 5
Do you know the context
Whatās that bordergore
I donāt
meijer
"I saw a map of most popular grocery stores by state, and thought "what if we had a civil war based on this?" A week later I came up with this. I looked at which stores were most common, which were most "popular", and then general distribution for 30+ chains to come up with the borders, which i smoothed out along natural features that would serve as decent borders/entrenched battle lines. I've also omitted most nationwide chains assuming they more or less got stretched too thin/don't have enough regional identity to take regional control."
text from the og post
Bukharin was a major advocate of an alliance with the peasantry and the NEP was very peasant-friendly, transforming the peasantry into a petit bourgeois market-oriented group
Trotsky fucking hated this idea and wanted the total extermination of all kulaks
I really hope this is what happens if nationalities dissolve and itās just companies holding territory where they have the most locations
Lenin is overseeing the situation disappointedly.
what are we talking about here?
Communism
Y'all been talking about Communsim for like 2-3 Days
oregon (safeway) truthnuke
this should be Communsim general
hell
Anyways uh rate my city
if a normal general is made it will just also turn into communism general
and then everything else
This is your brain on De Leonism
4/10
De Leon was right about a lot of things if only he was a revolutionary
funky road layout
ššæ
It's based off of new york
You needed better zoning laws and development and also more space for pedestrian, parks and public transportation
Note I donāt play C:S but I play theotown cuz Iām broke
Okay
I have CS1 and CS2
i think its time for the butter baby
icl it's easy
I donāt think its that different
CS2 has more road things
you need lane math
I got CS1 Like 3-2 Weeks ago
and I think the simulation is a little more indepth so that might be hard to manage fcor someone who is new to cuity building
Iāve been playing rimworld and some of the mods are not compatible and I am tired of spending liek 2 hours fixing my mod list so I might lowkey just learn modding to fix the mods myself
Go chat in the rim world discord server
I mean probaky
my typing speed has fallen
but this is general
Zos
I have 128GB of ram
Rip
I have 128GB of ram ZosRiobut this is general
I belive I.C.E has every legal Right to arrest themselves
is this from the consverapedia page
open up task manager
itās from leftcom.org
oh no
@wicked nimbus how's the bp grind btw
@tiny meadow so how are you still alive
i would be apart of the biden junta
huh
can you lowkey share my pc is kind of ram-less
two years ago I had 8gb of ram.
I was gonna get 64gb but now i have to get 32.
no way they got a dogs journey free on youtube
i hope the feds dont mind
only missing 1-2 credit things but im fine with that
what level?
the actor skins and the camera lady skins idc about
whatever I was when I left yesterday
ah
you helped me get everything I wanted
Hi
@wicked nimbus telling you my xp strat for the zombie prison map
- private lobby
- 1: go afk in the afk corner, once that runs out you go to buy yourself upgraded weapons
- 2: go to the first room and kill the few zombies in there, do not continue.
- 3: go back to the main hub and re-enter the room, kill zombies, leave, repeat
and by main hub i mean the game spawn
I can clear the entire first and maybe second area
i figured it out my drivers are outdated
just clear the first area
I actually played the map some
so my graphics card is literally not rendering shit rn
im updating them now š¼
ive completed it twice i just do the first area cause you can just reload it without respawning
you still get good xp including the Bonus xp quests
not to mention due to how the Super level pages work in this pass
it should be fine to just open them and just claim the v-bucks @wicked nimbus
@tiny meadow so what would you do in this situation
Ivr completed it several times just takes a while to kill later
theres usually a cheese spot in every room
goodnight worldboxians
considering you havent converted to linuxism yet
i always did my claiming in this order
v-bucks, Item variants, Wraps, emoticons and sprays, Loading screens, banners
ofc unique stuff always was the first if it was there
like the jam track
i just use the hunting rifle or the lever action one
if you feel like it btw there is a power-hour tomorrow @wicked nimbus
in california its at 12:30 pm
im tellin u cause 1: its got a unique gun that will only be released when c7s2 starts on the 18th
and 2: supercharged xp
Tomorrow as in sunday or later today?
tomorrow as in saturday
as in today technically
It is saturday
yeah
also rocket league season 22 reveal dropped @wicked nimbus
gonna be honest
1: the car with the spoiler looks sick
2: air jordan?? š
like daft punk made sense last pass with the fact it was french themed
and they were yknow
FRENCH
@gaunt stump
1: yayy i get a bmw
2: i like the car with the spoiler
3: why air jordan of all things š
@wicked nimbus
opinion
idk if i like the maven or zefira more
Donāt have one
remember that if you just install rocket league and link it to your FN you can get i think like 2 cars i think
and soon 3
who names their country united kingdom
generic randomised ass name
playing as guest
I do.
Bro got that office chair
Are you employed
Definitely John
Why u boost this jit server lil cro
It's actually called the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland š¤
~ask Hey, I saw this message and I don't know what the fuck it means. This is the message: Why u boost this jit server lil cro
This appears to be slang. "Jit" is often used to refer to a younger person or a kid, sometimes disparagingly. "Lil cro" likely means "little criminal" or is a nickname for someone perceived as such. The message seems to be questioning why someone would support or "boost" a server associated with such individuals.
-# AI can make mistakes, please verify the information provided.
š š
Broooooo
I will slime your wizard money gang
That love casting spells
Lil cro likely means "little criminal" oh my god
it means little crow
cro is a mix of bro and crow
just done watching the regular show i am in fucking tears
what?
Mine is dunno abt the rest of the people here
Shhhhh lil boi
why?
Cuz i said so
~ask What does "slime" mean in this context: I will slime your wizard money gang
In that context, "slime" is likely used as a verb meaning to cover something with a viscous, unpleasant substance, or more metaphorically, to discredit, corrupt, or make something dirty in a figurative sense.
-# AI can make mistakes, please verify the information provided.
no IT WAS A GOOD SHOW
Ah I see.
it means kill
Nah, I believe Worldbot over you
YES YES IT ALL ON HBO MAX WATCH IT NOW
Can't wait to play on my world again
Awww hell naw I'm not paying a subscription
i will give you my acc
You're placing a lotta trust on a stranger, partner
Why does it have that effect?
hey that JB Minecraft
i had a minecraft once they took it away I HAD A MINECRAFT ONCE
Holy based
Vro what is this album š
1.2 monthly listeners???
This shit is like if 100 gecs didnt get good after like 30 seconds
Shaddup boi
Loud ahh
Okay Bonker67
Is that lock of lock
Hello
~ask What does "shaddup boi" and "loud ahh" mean?
These are informal, often aggressive, phrases. "Shaddup boi" is a variation of "shut up boy," telling someone to be quiet. "Loud ahh" is a slang term describing someone or something that is very noisy or loud, often used to express annoyance.
-# AI can make mistakes, please verify the information provided.
I love Key
How'd you know my government name?!?!?!!
Why does Joe Bartolozzi kind of look like the skull, is this proof he is actually dead?
I think joe took off his skull to make that thumbnail
W Joe, always putting so much effort in his videos š„¹
W Joeā¤ļøā𩹠ā¤ļøā𩹠ā¤ļøā𩹠ā¤ļøā𩹠ā¤ļøāš©¹
crabcoins
and i didnt have a diff server to use my boost on
Stormlightning!??!?!
Boost bocchicord twice
waste
Bo
Who is that
What the hell is this?
Federal propaganda
What a lovely day today, if you're living somewhere where it's raining you're loser.
What if its snowing
Giga nerd
Cat
Lil dawg
Nice husky
office chairs are peak
i use an office chair i bought from a yard sale
Its pink tho
Oh well.
So uh
My take on this album
Ass š
Its all offbeat, the tuning and audio mixing is ass
Uhh
Do better š
I... am the Balanced
I come from a world
Where keys
And locks
Exist in Unity
For no key can exist
Without
Its respective lock
Why do we war?
When we need each other to live?
If you share my views...
Please, become a Balanced
I also request, a channel of our own.
#the-unlocked
Aight i need to fill up my portfolio, should I make an AI + LLM or a Linux Distro?
Linux Distro
I need a second opinion on this
Linux Distro
You're ugly too.
Thats your second opinion
So you're a commie
Mods, communism in general chat
I wish they add rome formation spartan shield at the arrow
Communism is the best
Whats the point of the shield in worldbox
Wha
Thats Donald Biden
Bro the shield dont do anything
Making kingdoms allied
Fuck it, I'll draw you pregnant
Like the shield is at the back
Mods
I believe in state market socialism
Kill this one
Why shield is useless in worldboxš„
A Democrat
is dragon midrank yet
It is useless
I would say it's midrank
Shield is uselessš„
Bro what shield are you talking about
Shield in worldbox
worldbox has shields? now
What shield
maxim my beloved
This shield š”ļø
I am losing braincells
are you implying something
šš”ļø
Iran can control the weather
iran tornado spell real
They have a tornado mage
I'm implying that's gotta be tuff since they wasted billions in taxpayers money to bomb schools in the middle east instead of helping their own people
But when your government is made of pedophiles what can you do..
Right Americans have the second amendment.
Chat, this is Gerald
ahem
are you
The American military should coup
implying something
Yes. Hanging the government members
Everyone say hi to Gerald
Shield is useless in worldbox!!! šš”ļø
@hidden lotus
Birb...Brit..? British.
ts you?
If google is so good then why is Israel still using Netanyahu instead of Netangoogle?
Bannrd
Bernard
All this proves to me is that it wasn't for the lack of trying but for the lack of concentrated power that Lenin didn't consolidate power around the Bolsheviks
Its because they dont use google cause i am cutee
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benjamin netanyahu israel blast
How can i get the maps on ios?
can somebody edit netanyahu's face onto that one biden blast image
Click this link
Do it yourself gang it's not hard
Hackeasynoobloser4) (*#(&/
thank you for the motivation
What parts brodie
#Hackeasynoobloser4
Lenin called for a centralized vanguard in āWhat Is To Be Doneā specifically as it related to the draconian highly developed police state in the tsardom, and following the 1905 revolution, he was among the members of the RSDLP pressing for opening up the party and democratizing it the most. In fact, he was the first of the RSDLP to advocate for such reforms
@placid sphinx sam we have to get zille back sam
No one answers
why the fuck does wb general HAVE to be about communism bro
Yes
Tmb
I got it on sale for half off!!!
E sign doesnt exist on ios anymore
@patent lichen who would uou want to be your king tbm
None
Democratic centralism doesn't mean closing the party, it means opening the party to all and enforcing an ideological party line.
Yeah
And thatās
Righteous
Wow
No thats some old general no one cares about
@queen marsh
MOD
The party line is to be defended at all costs as the party itself is the intransient, invariant manifestation of the will of the proletarian class
hi
Even ships are turning Chinese https://x.com/ft/status/2029991330827415861?s=46
Ships in Gulf declare themselves Chinese to dodge attack https://t.co/QYnLYYkyhP
Yeah and I disagree with this
How do I get the š role
alr
To argue for ādemocratizationā, as it opposes this party line, is to argue for the death of the party itself
@fossil wolf iosef or taddeus azaro
uhh
what attack
@worn plover we're watching this right?
Change name to Lock of [bla bla bla bla]
I cannot say the words I need to.
Every ship in Hormuz is getting sank by Iran except if ur Russian or chinese
what!
Oil tankers to be specific
Not the lock role, both
Like this guy @lilac otter
ohhh
The 'party line' killed the Wirtschaftswunder in East Germany, it killed the Hungarian Working Peoples' Party and it killed the automobile industry in most east bloc countries
I won't even try pronouncing that
The economic wonder
Which for the record Russia was very much a party dictatorship at the time, though what exactly that means depends!
.
East Germany which was not communist
Debatable but it was definitely democratic centralist
amm
Communist aesthetics do not make you communist and the failure of the russian revolution was primarily because of the western revolutions yadda yadda
woah
It was. Lol
Also wdym ādebatableā
The democratic centralist line as per Lenin is the creation of a revolutionary party made up of the proletariat in which the proletariat enacts its will
The SED followed Marxist doctrine and steered the economy and the state through that
The democratic centralism in east germany was not that and it reflected bourgeois values more than it did proletarian
It didnāt
Marxist doctrine is the abolition of commodity-form production and bourgeois social relations as a whole
āMarxism-Leninismā is not communism nor are its branches
Neither is āTrotskyismā really
If you asked Mosley what fascism was he'd also describe sunshine and rainbows
What about dengism
This is what the bolsheviks were until like 1922
The bureaucratization of the party happened for a lot of reasons and the only ones that can be attributed to democratic centralism come from (are argued by) a different organizational school you would disagree with harder
ok?
The doctrine of the SED was that anyone was allowed to be a part of the party and they'd be educated in communist theory and raised as the vanguard of the working class
The doctrine of the SED was also not marxist
Okay well if you exclude literally all branches of communism you disagree with from the definition of communism then fine it was democratic centralist and socialist
You say this as though 1. in an idealized world this wouldnāt be awesome actually and 2. the āpartyā was an organ of the bureaucratic police state that acted capitalistic
They dont fit within the definition of communist lol
Nor do they fit within the definition of socialist either
How exactly are you defining these terms
But socialism is when the state does stuff
They are definitely socialist btw
They werenāt
maintaining capitalist social relations = socialism
cat staring at me
- state controlled production
- uplifting the industrial proletariat (above the agrarian and academic)
- following a strict party line (based on an interpretation of socialism/communism)
- dictatorship of the proletariat (party)
not socialist
not socialist
socialist
socialist
āagrarian proletariatā
āacademic proletariatā
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why is there so many proletariat
I didn't say proletariat after it for a reason

Above the agrarians and academics
"anything that's bad is not socialism, actually"
bukharinās treatment of the peasantry is the correct way to treat the peasantry
give them what they ask for until the forces of production render them destitute
The eastern bloc states actively punished profit-taking
in what way does maintaining the social relations of capitalism but replacing the business with the state resemble socialism to you
and this changes what exactly
the underlying social relations of capitalism remain
It makes it Christian (notoriously socialist)
Yeah because socialism doesn't demand the immediate abolition of all capitalist structures
dam
the dictatorship of the proletariat is not socialist and is constructed to actively dismantle capitalist socialist relations
Pablo Escobar??
John Oil
What would that make communist parties?
no longer representing proletarian interests
What can you say about the current Anti-John sentiment from Big Oil?
it depends on what you mean by ācommunist partyā
The name, not literal

there is the intransient and the invariant will of the proletariat that we call the communist party but this doesnt actually exist materially
not communist
ive known you for like a year
Is Vietnam socialist?
The Chinese Communist Party?..
with minimal exception
you make this joke now?
Yeah
In the way that socialist eastern bloc states did not replace big business because the market was abolished and social-wage differences were tightened
the communist caucus of the dsa is communist
Because lowkey thought it would be corny when i say it
I like corns
i need a pink pfp
corn
I can give you one
100 people who describe themselves as patient Vs arguing against an "orthodox Marxist"
Gotchu
- market relations were not abolished because the state acts as the market intermediary
- āsocial-wage differences were tightenedā what does this have to do with literally anything? this is trade union activism at best which is already antithetical to socialism
ima go with doppio
Why is toilet white
Is Terraria's NPC system socialist?
Or Are they communists? What resources do they have to survive
i dont care enough to research them but the various splinter groups of the icp with the exception of the portland branch are probably communist
as is the ict
- The state did not act as a market intermediary because production was set and controlled only by state institutions, the capitalist structures of markets were defunct
- The differences between the ruling academic-white collar class and the industrial proletariat were reduced and in some cases even turned on their head
It's so that dirty stains can be easily colored, just like a chef's uniform is white
okay lets examine what exactly made the gdr socialist
Set Discord to a white theme to keep your phone's screen clean
Severe photosensitive epilepsy is a negligible side effect.
What happened to make someone argue about whatever this is in the WorldBox Discord sever of all places
doppio
- worker control of the means of production. Nope! the state did haha
- abolition of wage labor and the end of the appropriation of the surplus value generated by the laborer. Nope!
- workers no longer sell their labor power. Nope! still happened haha
- workers have meaningful control over the production process. Nope!
formal āabolitionā of capitalism =/= destruction of the underlying social relations within capitalism
State socialism is still socialism, just because you're puritan doesn't mean your definitions trump historical ones
it isnāt socialism
capitalist social relations maintained
itās capitalism
āpuritanā
and itās reading the book and knowing the definition š¤£š¤£š¤£
The definition which doesn't apply to any historical case, ever
the law of value maintained means capitalism is mantained
okay and what does that mean mechanically
Yeah because you can't abolish the law of value in a capitalist world
commies
This is useless
It means the definition is a no-tell
That's not pink pfp
It doesn't tell you anything about anything
The definition built by socialists
?
To describe what socialism is
it is?
Doesnt work
It's not the same shade as your name
You can define a word as a row of letters without a space between them, as done by some linguists, doesn't mean anything though
fits
Because it's also a no-tell
close enough
Iāve given a sufficient definition of socialism
And your claim is that every other socialist experiment was NOT built by socialists?
its prob the last rank ill ever get
doppio oh doppio my adorable little doppio
Yeah, and the definition you've given is practically useless
It is not
When will I become the Rat King
"socialism is when you abolish all the stuff in capitalism that's bad"
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Okay, but like, in what discussion or analysis is that definition ever gonna help
read bordiga chud
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god finger is prob the best role colour ngl
āCommunism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.ā
Wow haha its almost like the whole point is abolishing
that or robo santa
