airsoft

[subtle egret]

hot

[opaque iris]

just get a fuckin AR 10 for a dmr build or an SVD

7.62x39 is a shit DMR cartridge

even if it's airshit

[junior sedge]

It's airsoft, it literally doesn't matter

[lyric shuttle]

who cares, just do whatever you want. aslong as you have fun doing it.

[junior sedge]

^^^^^^^^

[deep oxide]

thank you

[tulip root]

No cap

Its fucking airsoft they all shoot bbs

[lyric shuttle]

sorry for this rant in advance,

But i just do not understand why someone would Bash someone's choice of usage on equipment in regards of airsoft (sure i've done it myself but its mostly banter and experience in some regard)

but especially with Newer people who are genuine and are seeking for information.

But NOOOO some of us here like to bash on their idea's.

Lets just keep your differences to yourself, Airsoft is Airsoft. we're here to make the Sport / hobby Bigger and more fun with everyone.

Being a sour P*ss is not needed at all.

just enjoy with your buddies and shoot your plastic balls like every other person who stands besides you

[junior sedge]

^

[junior sedge]

It's the same with the certain someone who bashes people for using repro gear instead of SUPER ORIGINAL RUSSIAN SHIT like gottdamm

[junior sedge]

But yeah, they are all the same

[tribal wren]

makes no sense, there is a clear difference and he said its like tarkov bruh

pepega take

[opaque iris]

L

get fucked

[valid aurora]

i cant tell if some of this shit was bait or if it was people that a ctually care what airsoft gun you get 🤣

[tribal wren]

so hostile

what an elitist

[junior sedge]

Fr

[opaque iris]

I have a distain to airsofters that's all

especially with replica gear, with guns i don't care that much

[junior sedge]

Because if they don't wear original gear
Then what's the point

Apparently

[opaque iris]

it's just a kind of insult to wear some cheaply made gear than actually put the time and effort in a kit, how many fucked up alone russian kits i've seen is mind baffleing

also some replicas are more expensive than the real deal and that's hilarious

3rd if you want to wear armor then get the real deal, you already have made the decision to get one

ONLY reason I would accept replicas if it's of extremely pricey or not obtainable stuff

[junior sedge]

Not really
The point of airsoft is to have fun and wear what you want

[tribal wren]

then why are you here??? go be an elitist where someone cares, its a game. catch me wearing a plastic helmet because it looks cool

[opaque iris]

it may look cool, but how long until it breaks something

[tribal wren]

its a game with BBs bruh

[opaque iris]

still can't hold a NVG

most airsoft nv mounts are terrible

[junior sedge]

Doesn't matter lol

If they are wearing a cheap helmet, then the chances of them having nvgs are probs low

Even then if its a cheap helmet, who gives a fuck

It's their stuff let em wear what they want

[tribal wren]

NVGs?? what for?? larping??

[opaque iris]

MSW you can use NVGs?

night games are bonkers

[tribal wren]

depends on the field and where you live

[opaque iris]

and about that, Airsoft Platecarriers are notorious to break under heavy use

[tribal wren]

heavy use??

[opaque iris]

you don't even need Ballistic plates but a real carrier is at least something you should get

[junior sedge]

Heavy use 💀 it's airsoft

[opaque iris]

so?

you also run around, lie down, go through creacks and crevices

not everyone chills in his indoor field

[junior sedge]

🤷 my point still stands, let the person buy whatever tf they want

If it breaks then it breaks, who cares

[tribal wren]

ya? is that also a disservice to your glorious authentic larp kit?

[junior sedge]

Don't forget to have the ID patches and insignia placed correctly

[opaque iris]

yes

[tribal wren]

:) im gonna run meme patches exclusively

[opaque iris]

nice

as long as you don't pose it as authentic kit/reenactment idc

[tribal wren]

those exist

[junior sedge]

Imagine replicating something and not just wearing what's comfy

[opaque iris]

I am aware, we shit on these guys often

[tribal wren]

jeans + hoodie with kit is the way. straight outta R6

[junior sedge]

Fr

[opaque iris]

In a reenactment server theres mostly the "corner of shame"

oh glorious

[tribal wren]

we? your elitist circlejerk buddies?

[opaque iris]

nah reenactors

we who take some kits seriously

[tribal wren]

same thing

[valid aurora]

your jeans are 1 shade of blue too dark for the look you were going for, sorry but you need to quit and never come back

[tribal wren]

what for??

[junior sedge]

L wrong emoji lmfao

[opaque iris]

to be authentic , It's all about that

to make it right

to get the small bits n pieces together

[junior sedge]

Gotta get the primark ones tho

[tribal wren]

ppl who do that and play airsoft?

[opaque iris]

well it's better than to shoot eachother with real guns

have you never seen a MilSim Game?

[tribal wren]

not authentic enough

[tribal wren]

ye, seems cool if you care about that sorta thing

[junior sedge]

Just poison the BBs

[opaque iris]

this tbh

[tribal wren]

authentic warcrime aspect

[junior sedge]

Fr

Plus

You don't get discovered if it's slow acting poison

You'll be long gonnne

[tribal wren]

isnt that just cosplay??

with extra violence sprinkles?

[opaque iris]

you could put it like that

and for some it's also collecting

myself included

[tribal wren]

don't have to cosplay when conscription exists :/

[opaque iris]

I'm not going into starvation land

[junior sedge]

2022 current events moment

[tribal wren]

finland?

[opaque iris]

Russian army

mfw MREs from 2015

[junior sedge]

"army" 😭

[opaque iris]

shitshow

[junior sedge]

Just a bunch of children being forced to fight lol

I feel bad for em

[opaque iris]

pretty much

[junior sedge]

Literally getting their teeth kicked in by scavs

[opaque iris]

and a lot of incompetent generals

[junior sedge]

Fucking love the captured electric car with the Z on it

[tribal wren]

.

starvation?

[eager dust]

Got myself a krinkov

What your opinion?

[junior sedge]

Swaggy

[eager dust]

Should i help it with a bit of zenit or keep it Pure

[junior sedge]

It's your gun mang, do whatever ya want to it

Hell, spray paint it pink if you wanted

[silk hound]

Unless it's a really nice Drink, I'd hold off on the Zenit

[junior sedge]

If you can even get Zenit anymore

[silk hound]

If they're EU they should be able to, in theory

[junior sedge]

Are they not affected by sanctions? If not then sweet

[opaque iris]

wouldn't slap real zenit on a airsoft gun

being the whole hammer it in thing

[lyric shuttle]

there's people who 3d print zenit parts

[opaque iris]

5KU makes excellent Zenit shit

[lyric shuttle]

^

[opaque iris]

feels as bombproof as the real deal

[lyric shuttle]

and tbh its not even THAT expensive

but SPR life so im not bothered with it

[opaque iris]

like half the price of actual zenitco

[lyric shuttle]

sold my LCT AK-103

ordered a Vortex UH-1 from Aliexpress for like 50$

gonna see how that's gonna be

[eager dust]

For 50$ it shouldnt be that bad

[opaque iris]

holding Zero: 0

but well it's airshit

[junior sedge]

My mate ordered probably the same one as you, he says it's pretty good
You should be fine

[lyric shuttle]

yeah their 25$ 553 holo's work perfectly fine too, so i'd expect that

also running with a 1.5-4x shortdot on my SPR

love the scope

[slate leaf]

E&l ak's are pretty nice

[lyric shuttle]

i was able to buy my LCT ak 2nd hand for dirt and dirt cheap

he had to quit, and he had 2 days to get rid of it all.

bought the AK for 100 euro

[slate leaf]

I put all my money into a gun and then went to field dressed like a hobo

[lyric shuttle]

😂

my kit is about the same as my SPR

[lyric shuttle]

ahh Mister AK

i've only got a Picture with my older M4

due to Covid, most of the fields here had to close up

so i couldn't really play alot last year

[thorn flame]

I was molded by the AK

[thorn flame]

Meta kit 🤙

[lyric shuttle]

running HPA now

so much less drama 😂

[thorn flame]

Nice!

[lyric shuttle]

gotta say, love the kit

[thorn flame]

Army issue :p

[lyric shuttle]

i can see a pair of Goggles floating but that's about it

[cyan valve]

p

[lyric shuttle]

Best patch to wear

[junior sedge]

I hate it lol

[lyric shuttle]

😂

i got Usec patches on the way

[junior sedge]

usec :((((

[lyric shuttle]

can't be using Bear patches when im running an SPR

[junior sedge]

mmm true

[lyric shuttle]

😛

should've kept my AK for that

[grizzled hill]

Wear bear patches anyway

True chads use whatever gun they want

[lyric shuttle]

I got a Bear neckchain

Does that count? @grizzled hill

[grizzled hill]

Maybe

[lyric shuttle]

Its in memory of a dude i used to play with. He loved everything involving russia.

But due to him having to protect his younger sister from being snatched on the streets he has been shot and killed doing so. So the remainder 4 of us bought a Tarkov bear tag and we now wear it, to remember him

[grizzled hill]

Get a bear armband and usec patches then a black division hat

[grizzled hill]

Oh god that’s horrible

[lyric shuttle]

Yeah we been playing together since ps3 days

His mother saw it all happen, and contacted us with the horrible news

So its the least we can do

[grizzled hill]

Yeah man I’m sorry that sucks

[lyric shuttle]

its fine, atleast his younger sister is doing ok

so now im just a Bear in IRL size, and Usec at Airsoft

[junior sedge]

Sorry to hear that man, I know how it feels to lose one of your gamer mates

[lyric shuttle]

Thanks bud, yeah it feels like shit especially on how it happened

[lyric shuttle]

mhm currently looking into this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alktvcr2y_U&ab_channel=TCT-Customs

anyone heard of this? or has experience with said inserts?

looks decent, and for 3$ a piece it wouldn't hurt to try i reckon

[dire vigil]

does anyone know what could be wrong with my pistol. It is green gas and it only shoots 2 full power shots then the rest of the shots die off. I dont think it is my mag because i tried all 3 and had the same result

Nvm i got it

I had to purge my mag

[grizzled hill]

YOU SHOULD PURGE YOUR MAG

[coarse harbor]

yeeeesssssssss queen!

[green wasp]

paintball

[grizzled hill]

Midball

[deep oxide]

Fact

[willow thorn]

honestly might put together a scav/bear/usec loadout

alr have the m4 gen3 mags, would just have to buy a scuffed plate carrier/rig and a hat, armband, and eyepro

[grizzled hill]

Rainbow

[willow thorn]

y e s

[languid quartz]

I’ve got a bit of gear for sale if it’s any use to anybody? Glock 17, cyma cm.702 c fluted barrel and a cm15 also the camo clothing, battle belt, chest rigs, ghillie suit, grenades, etc

[grizzled hill]

I don’t have those CYMA guns memorized can you just send some pics I’m curious

Most CYMA are aks tho

[junior sedge]

The cyma is a sniper I think, and the CM15 is just a GG m4

[grizzled hill]

Hmm snipers are not my style

And I already have a AR type rifle

Thank you for clarifying

[junior sedge]

ywyw

[languid quartz]

Yeah the cyma is a sniper m24 variant bud

[patent gyro]

Any recommendations on a beginner airsoft pistol?

[junior sedge]

WE P226 served me well as a starter

[lyric shuttle]

Most people go with glocks cuz it has lots of aftermarket parts but its mostly what you like

[grizzled hill]

I used a revolver

It broke

[patent gyro]

Thx that’s what I was thinking about too

[junior sedge]

Revolvers fun tbh

[grizzled hill]

They are quite entertaining to scramble to reload and drop all your shells

You always feel like an idiot when you drop one

[junior sedge]

Lmao

[lyric shuttle]

my first pistol was a 2011 by Jag precision

2nd was a mk23

3rd was a M17 sig sauer

[deep oxide]

1911s are pretty cool, mags are cheap for 1911s.

I have a 2011 that cost be about 150 and it shoots amazing

Mine is a jag armd

Idk why they overlay that stupid barrel image

I just got this from a mystery box and this thing is 4x as snappy as my 2011 lol

[patent gyro]

Thank you guys

[dusty crypt]

whats a good helmet to get with a mask and googles?

[grizzled hill]

Mask as in airsoft bulky mask of like a balaclava?

[dusty crypt]

like a metal mesh

[grizzled hill]

Hmm if you get a low profile one really anything works

[runic ocean]

staby saby intensify

[broken herald]

Behold

[grizzled hill]

Burn it

[junior sedge]

I've found the Russian 6B47 works really well with those

I never wear masks, but the goggles fit well and tested a mask, works pretty well

[dusty crypt]

where can i find one?

[junior sedge]

If you want a real one, check FB groups for people selling them, if you want a replica, greyshop have one on discount atm

I recommend talking to Camden about a real one, ik he has one atm I think

There's also a lad on the northern pact FB selling one with an emr cover for 150

[dusty crypt]

ok thanks

[grizzled hill]

The internet

[junior sedge]

Np

[grizzled hill]

[junior sedge]

Fr+!!?!!!?!

[lyric shuttle]

Just spray painted my fortis shift with mat black paint

Looking better already

[grizzled hill]

Why not just buy a mg42 instead of painting your grip?

[junior sedge]

I was tripping I thought that was like a children's slide or something

[lyric shuttle]

tf has a mg42 to do with anything LOL

[grizzled hill]

It’s more practical

[junior sedge]

Clearly you do not own an mg42

[lyric shuttle]

i had to paint this, since the Black one in M-lok is completely sold out / non accessible anymore in the Netherlands

i had an mk46

dont need an mg42

[grizzled hill]

You really do tho

You don’t know when that 10000rd box magazine will come in handy

[lyric shuttle]

i really don't

i'm happy with my SPR

[junior sedge]

My rpk drum gets me through a whole day, who needs 10k lmao

[lyric shuttle]

my 5 mags + 1 highcap get me through an entire day

[tough oriole]

That first one looked like some weird monument, or modern art to me.

Took way to long to realize what it was

[junior sedge]

Fr

[lyric shuttle]

yeah i had the same when i saw the picture LOL

[grizzled hill]

You never know when you need to never stop firing

[lyric shuttle]

just hit em with 1.7J on the nutsack

they'll stop moving

[junior sedge]

Balls

[lyric shuttle]

or like this dude on the field

he went prone

only sticking his head out

so guess what happened?

his face started bleeding

[junior sedge]

L

[lyric shuttle]

he didn't call his hits after a single tap

so i sent 4 more

[junior sedge]

I full auto people who do that

[lyric shuttle]

and 1.7J hits hard at 30m

[junior sedge]

Ended up full autoing a 14 year old because of it the other week, felt kinda bad

[lyric shuttle]

well i mean, i had a field marshal next to me

telling me to send a few more

yeah over here we don't have kids joining

18+

[junior sedge]

Scotland usually allows 14+

The sport needs more players here, so we invite everyone

Tbf my local site had a 9 year old at one point, kid was insane

Well he looked 9

[lyric shuttle]

i mean

kids can be more fun with airsoft with

than adults who cannot take a fucking hint and pipe down

[junior sedge]

Tbf the adults here are pretty chill

The only adults I hate are the bAnTeR sQuAD

Cheating assholes, everyone over here knows them

[lyric shuttle]

just shoot them where it hurts the most

or blast a 40mm at 5m

Cyma has a nice one

30$

shells that are 10$ a pop

fill em with green gas + 120 bbs

10m radius

Looking better already

[grizzled hill]

Just bring stinger grenades

[opaque iris]

just get a Tag one lmao

Pyrotechnics go brrr

[lyric shuttle]

not allowed in the Netherlands

[slate leaf]

Pyros not allowed at most fields sadly

[lyric shuttle]

when airsoft first started in the Netherlands they were using these as "pyro's"

https://youtu.be/oviSfk3LrNM?t=36

[slate leaf]

At all my local fields we are forced to use the spundfladhes

[lyric shuttle]

we can use uhh

let me look them up

[slate leaf]

Either CO2 or nail gun blanks

[lyric shuttle]

strataim bb grenades

but those mf's cost 85 euro a piece

so fuck that

😂

[slate leaf]

I feel bad for you.

[lyric shuttle]

i mean, i don't really care

i'll blast them with my cyma handheld 40mm

[slate leaf]

Can you use
Bang .22's?

[lyric shuttle]

more fun tbh

nope

you need licenses for those .22's

[slate leaf]

Really???

[lyric shuttle]

ye

ammo is insanely regulated gere

here*

so anything ammo related you need licenses for

[slate leaf]

Bro I'm 17 and in the us I can just buy one for like 90 dollars

Weird.

And the rounds/charges are like 5 dollars for a box of 50

[slate leaf]

Don't they're crap I've had 2 of my friends buy them and they both say they suck, it usually ships with something broken or it will within a week

[deep oxide]

Damn okay good looks

Will not be buying it ever

[slate leaf]

Their aks are good but the SVU isnt

[lyric shuttle]

yeah but the US is the exact opposite of the Netherlands

i need to be a Member of a shooting range for 2 years, with 20 stamps out of 52 (once per week) to attend

after that i can own my own .22

and only with a gun license for that specific caliber, i'll be allowed to buy the ammo and items i'll be needing for it

[smoky thunder]

I wish we were a little more like that

Too many dumbasses that buy a gun without knowing how to work one

[lyric shuttle]

highest caliber we are allowed to have on our permits are .308

[smoky thunder]

Let alone know their safety

No x54? Oof

[lyric shuttle]

i've been drilled on safety and trigger discipline by my cousin when i went along with him

well they're currently working on .338

to have that allowed but only as Bolt action

but in the Netherlands, we only got 2 ranges that have 300 meter lines

which fucking sucks

cuz 100m i can do with my PCP rifle ( air rifle on high pressured air)

[slate leaf]

tm on top

[deep oxide]

? It's not Tokyo Marui if that's what ur saying lol

[grizzled hill]

Can I bring a stinger grenade into a field?

[pliant wedge]

Me looking to spend about 1000 dollars in gear going twords my russian fsb alpha group airsoft kit.

also dont speak russian so buying from replica sites is so fucking tough...

[grizzled hill]

Get a translator plug-in

Those exist I think

[pliant wedge]

dude the replica helmets are expensive as fuck.

ill look for one.

[grizzled hill]

Then get a real one

[pliant wedge]

a real one is more

[grizzled hill]

Shush boy

[pliant wedge]

i think ill prolly just start with a couple things, then add on. Eventually i do want a full kit

[grizzled hill]

Don’t think about that

[pliant wedge]

well also an ak

with modernized parts

fucking expensive as hell.

[grizzled hill]

I just run a mutant

Sight and a grip

Simple but effective

You don’t need to be complicated to have a good kit

[pliant wedge]

yea thats true.

well and also like, i would like actual russian replica stuff

i'm looking at gear craft and it's not much more than other plate carriers

[junior sedge]

greyshop for replicas

a bit pricey but they have tons of choice

some real stuff though

like ana tac, sso (i think) and wartech

[opaque iris]

the gearcraft carriers are grear

the helmets... not so much

the replicas ofc

[opaque iris]

cringe

[opaque iris]

oh that's on the cheap end

[grizzled hill]

Imagine using old ass guns that are uncomfortable and shitty

[opaque iris]

Uncomfortable and shitty? have you held a good AK 74?

[grizzled hill]

You said the nword

[opaque iris]

yes I did

[grizzled hill]

[opaque iris]

and I don't care

[grizzled hill]

Racism

You cannot convince me to like AKs more than m4 styled guns

They are just not as good

[opaque iris]

well that's your preference

[grizzled hill]

I prefer long stuff like the SR25 and all that

Ak doesn’t do that

[smoky thunder]

Neither does M4

[opaque iris]

RPK 74?

and the SR 25 is a AR 10

[grizzled hill]

I use a SR variant of the mutant so my m4 style does

[smoky thunder]

Define M4-style

[opaque iris]

Armalite style controls,

[grizzled hill]

Things that work off a very similar platform like the mk18 m4 m16 416

Stuff similar to that

[opaque iris]

just say AR 15 ffs

[grizzled hill]

No

[opaque iris]

and that's why people think you're ret*rded

[grizzled hill]

I’m not bound by the opinion of others

[smoky thunder]

Why would you say M4-style when you could say AR15 pattern rifle instead

[opaque iris]

also I wouldn't put the 416 and M4 in one category

[grizzled hill]

Because it annoys you people

[smoky thunder]

Lol

[grizzled hill]

They are pretty similar

[smoky thunder]

I think it reflects more on you here tbh

[opaque iris]

one is piston operated the other is direct impingment

[grizzled hill]

Fair

[opaque iris]

you also can't call the HKs an AR really, they made their own Concept

[grizzled hill]

They are still styled similarly

Externally

Take all the same parts

[smoky thunder]

I'm still laughing at the idea that longer AK pattern rifles in bigger calibers don't exist

[opaque iris]

teh yugo SVD things?

[grizzled hill]

It’s the handguard that I don’t like about aks

[opaque iris]

then get another one

lmao

[grizzled hill]

How am I gonna put a m4 handguard on an ak

[opaque iris]

there are similar ones?

Zenitco Leader Kit

B30 + B31

The long ass handguard from Magpull

that i actually hate

[smoky thunder]

Can't remember, pretty much an SVD that works like an AK internally tho yes

[grizzled hill]

But why would I spend money to make another gun different with replaced parts when I can just use another gun stock

[smoky thunder]

Inversely if M4s so good how come I can't put AK handguard on it?

[grizzled hill]

That’s not my arguement

[opaque iris]

Because stock guns mostly have things to be upgrade?

[grizzled hill]

I just like m4 parts more

[smoky thunder]

It's mine tho

[opaque iris]

I wouldn't use most stock AR 15 triggers

or charging handles

[grizzled hill]

Key word YOU

I don’t care that much

[opaque iris]

Saying handguars is shit but could easily replace it, easier than a AR 15 one

that's just god tier coping here

[grizzled hill]

I like my mutant more than my ak end of story convincing me that “you can just change it” doesn’t matter to me

[smoky thunder]

And?

I don't think anyone ever asked you to begin with lol

[grizzled hill]

Well he was being irritating because I use a mutant

[opaque iris]

because why fuse 2 perfectly fine weapons

[grizzled hill]

Because I can

[smoky thunder]

I think he's being "irritating" because you baited it out lol

[grizzled hill]

Ak mags are more satisfying but m4 platform is better

[opaque iris]

especially with fucking 7.62x39, that shit is fucking awfull compared to 5.56 and 5.45 or you could just get a .308

[grizzled hill]

Airsoft gun dude caliber doesn’t matter

It’s not that deep

Not trying to be realistic

[smoky thunder]

I don't think anyone was trying to hold you to that here

[grizzled hill]

Then why would he bring it up?

[smoky thunder]

The being realistic aspect that is

[grizzled hill]

He brings up caliber when that’s completely irrelevant

[opaque iris]

Because unrealistic airsoft guns cringe me the fuck out

[grizzled hill]

Ok

I don’t care

[smoky thunder]

It's not irrelevant to the aesthetics of your gun/kit

[opaque iris]

also ones that make no sense in use

[grizzled hill]

They were used 1 time and they served their purpose

Therefor they are realistic

Yay

Stop complaining about my gun

[smoky thunder]

I mean tbf it's just a game, it shouldn't really matter outside of milsim events

To each their own tho

Just like this guy who prefers his AR pattern rifles

[opaque iris]

I'm a Reenactor and mostly MilSim gamer so i kinda care a lot about that stuff

[grizzled hill]

If I wanted to be realistic I wouldn’t wear black gear and a shattered mask as my helmet

[opaque iris]

but the thing I was actually arguing about was because he said the AK was shit

in ergonomics, and that isn't really true

[smoky thunder]

And you're allowed to, but you can't hold other people to your own standards if it's not your event

[smoky thunder]

Yeah that triggered me a lil too tbh 😪

Only reason I got involved here tbh

[grizzled hill]

When comparing a stock Ak to a stock m4 the m4 feels better there I was not arguing a built one

Mine is practically stock so I compare accordingly

[opaque iris]

Define stock

[grizzled hill]

Built aks are pretty nice

But I still prefer ARs

[opaque iris]

coming out of the factory?

in the store?

[grizzled hill]

Just your normal part not major mods

[smoky thunder]

Either way I don't see a point in anyone getting legitimately riled up here

Just airsoft

[opaque iris]

so round handguard, no pic rail and standard tube stock?

[smoky thunder]

Just giving each other a hard time for fun

This isn't the place to be so serious

[grizzled hill]

Yes just your standard stuff

[smoky thunder]

If you guys wanna talk some shit, here's some ammo for ya;

I bought a Well AK74M... and I kinda like it ngl

[opaque iris]

Based 415mm barrel enjoyer

the 105 kinda lost its flare on me

[grizzled hill]

If I were to get any ak variant it would be the Ak12 personally

It looks nice

[opaque iris]

AK 12...

[smoky thunder]

I want a 101 irl so bad

[opaque iris]

[smoky thunder]

Or 103

[grizzled hill]

I only really care about looks

[smoky thunder]

Or both tbh

[opaque iris]

it's not about the looks

it looks solid

but the problems like selector, dissasembly and the free floating hadnguard just to name a few make it kinda shit

but I doubt you would care about that much

[grizzled hill]

I don’t

If it shoots I’m fine with it

If they were not half impossible to find I’d get a TT33

Just for fun

Meta airsoft pistol

[junior sedge]

WE make one

[grizzled hill]

That sounds like a lot of work

But how would we do that anyway

My brother wants a airsoft tt really bad (it’s his favorite pistols for some reason)

[tough oriole]

Get him a 1911, he probably won’t know the difference

[grizzled hill]

Feel like he’d forgive me for breaking his pm (that broke on it’s own but I had it at the time) if I got him a tt

[grizzled hill]

He would he’s 20 years old and obsessed with the TT

[tough oriole]

Get him a real one then

[grizzled hill]

He’s gonna buy one as soon as he turns 21

Ammo is gonna be expensive in the US tho

762x25 is not very common

[tough oriole]

Not really

Plenty of other calibers are worse

[grizzled hill]

Oh that’s not too bad

[tough oriole]

I mean

It’s not great

[grizzled hill]

It’s gotta be pretty rare tho

Exotic round

[tough oriole]

I wouldn’t say that

[grizzled hill]

What site is that

[tough oriole]

Ammoseek

[grizzled hill]

Ok thanks

[tough oriole]

Pulls ammo prices from a bunch of different sellers so you can find a good price

[grizzled hill]

Cool

I honestly thought that 762x25 would be rare since it’s only used in a couple of Russias equivalent to a shitpost gun

Ppsh tt and a few others I don’t remember

None of those are very common in the us

[opaque iris]

no?

7.62x25 was widely issued in the red army times

[grizzled hill]

But in the US I didn’t think it would be easy to find

[opaque iris]

PPSh, PPS, TT 30 and 33

[opaque iris]

It got made a shitton why shouldn't there be some in the us

[grizzled hill]

Fair

[opaque iris]

in the us you find literally everything

[grizzled hill]

Except for cool people

[opaque iris]

except 9x21 gyurza, 12.7x55 or shir like that

[grizzled hill]

those are really uncommon right?

Not widely used

[opaque iris]

no shit

[grizzled hill]

It’s a shame 9x21 is a chad

[opaque iris]

though the SR 2M sees some use with FSB

[grizzled hill]

Ks 23 is used a lot more than I thought it was until I looked into it

It’s a pretty common police and anti riot rifle

Even used in prisons

Has very painful nonlethal rounds and it has flash bang bullets

Also used as a makeshift grenade launcher

[vapid nest]

im pretty new to airsoft is this ok

[grizzled hill]

If that’s your first that may be a bit overkill

The gun is the part that needs to be good

You have some room for error with the other parts

[vapid nest]

ya its my first one

[craggy oar]

also you dont really need two sights/three sights

[grizzled hill]

Yeah I only have 2 across 4 guns

[craggy oar]

well also the acog like scope has one up top and so an extra reddot would be unneeded

another thing is that the grip is a m-lok grip and the extra handguard is keymod

[grizzled hill]

Mlock is better

IMO

[opaque iris]

Very common with shield dudes

next to MP 9s

[craggy oar]

I would agree, just is that those two wouldn't fit

[slate leaf]

Larpov

[junior sedge]

Swag

[steel vale]

Bruh everything there is practically dog shit

Get a specna arms edge for that price

Also don’t buy cheap optics, just no point

For midcaps get pts epm or epm1

Why would you switch to a peemod hand guard….

[opaque iris]

just get a quad rail lmao

[hexed fern]

keymod makes everything worse and mlok is mutually incompatible

do a sanity check on your cart

don't buy a foregrip that you can not use

or, even better, get an mlok handguard because that's actually usable

[mortal sage]

well, the gun itself has an mlok already on it

but he is buying a keymod for some reason

wut

[grizzled hill]

I told him I’m dms to not get the keymod

So he isn’t

He revised his thing

[sweet snow]

The vant doe

[junior sedge]

Speaking of vant

Look what my mate got lol

All real btw

[mortal sage]

Overclocking

[grizzled hill]

What mode is that

Safe full auto

[tough oriole]

full safe

[solar sand]

Fully safematic

[opaque iris]

Vant gang

[opaque iris]

not a vant

Zeltium

that's what it's called

[junior sedge]

hell yeah, im jealous asf

Also my AK104 is trans atm

Can't afford an ak12 so I improvise

[opaque iris]

RPK 16 is either way more based than the 12

[junior sedge]

fr

i wanted a proepr rpk16 but got the funni 104 as it didnt exist back then

[opaque iris]

I'll probably sell my Small vant tho

for a Big one

[junior sedge]

i just want a vant in general

[opaque iris]

well if you can't handle the weight

a Fakel S would be recommended

it's like 10 kilos

a Vant LM is 16 and VM 24 iirc

[junior sedge]

I can handle the weight lol, I've got good upper

Well, maybe not a whole vant and all that gear

But im not a femboy

[opaque iris]

[junior sedge]

Btw Donut, are you in the NP group on Facebook?

[opaque iris]

NP?

[junior sedge]

northern pact

[opaque iris]

nah

[junior sedge]

camden, and a bunch of other sellers etc

aah

[opaque iris]

I'm in uncle gerychs zirkus wagon, Red market and Zutas gear outposr

the last one being camdens own group

[junior sedge]

ah fair enough

that emerald was in NP, if anything cool comes up i'll let you know, god knows what crazy shit you buy lol

[deep oxide]

All State, you're in good hands

[grizzled hill]

Insurance?

I understood the joke before the edit

[opaque iris]

I'm currently broke lmao

1st cuz of the glad

2nd cuz of the GM 94

[junior sedge]

Fair enough

I'm about to be broke with the ratnik shit

[lyric shuttle]

Now its waiting on my black M-LOK railcovers to finish the two-toning and i'll be happy

And maybe switch out the cheekrest for a black one

Before picture for reference

Spray painted the fortis shift grip with Mat black and switched out the pistol grip to black

[sweet snow]

i got a real k6 with glad stuff

[grave pewter]

We-tech GBB 😮

[opaque iris]

post

[junior sedge]

We tech :(

That'll last 6 days

[opaque iris]

Also isn't that a GreyShop D2

afaik Fort Logos are only written in cyrillic

[grave pewter]

Bought it used from a friend, it’s been running for a couple years already

[junior sedge]

Must be lucky, I've only heard bad about the WE svds

[grave pewter]

The thing feels great in the hand and high quality, the mag is hefty and can take a beating. But we’ll have to see

[junior sedge]

Is it stock?

[opaque iris]

the wood coloring kinda gives me conniptions

wouls recommend getting poly furniture for it

[grave pewter]

Yea

[kind pier]

What are some good airsofr gund to start off with same with gear

[grizzled hill]

Gund

But it really depends on what you want to use there

Guns are often preference and so is gear

The common starting platforms are M4s and AKs

[kind pier]

i was going for m4s

[junior sedge]

G&G combat machine

[opaque iris]

not every AR 15 is a M4

[grizzled hill]

Shush

[opaque iris]

no

[grizzled hill]

Most people use your basic m4 anyway

Some people use the other types

But you basic ass m4 is a common starter

I want talking the whole platform

M4 and AK47 specifically are common starters from everything I’ve seen

Not sure why people like the AK47 all to much tho

People start with an m4 then go onto others

Or so I hear

[opaque iris]

AK 47? which type :)

or do you mean the AK platform in general

[grizzled hill]

Just the average 762 ak platform

[opaque iris]

most go for 5.45s tho if they a little in the subject matter

as 5.45 aks are more based

[grizzled hill]

Well I mean people who are REALLY getting started not people who have prior gun knowledge

If you have gun knowledge before getting into airsoft you’ll probably get something with more spice then the generic guns

But if you want to talk about based guns the most based gun in existence is the p50 or whatever it’s called

[frank sphinx]

the P90?

wut

[grizzled hill]

No

The kel tek funny pistol

[frank sphinx]

Ohhhh

[grizzled hill]

7 pounds

Ludicrous

[frank sphinx]

oh boi

[valid aurora]

it looks like a space blaster

[grizzled hill]

It looks like a chad is what you mean

[frank sphinx]

ehhh

[valid aurora]

i’d rather just get a p90 tbh

[grizzled hill]

It’s just a p90 but worse it every way whats not to love

?

[valid aurora]

😂

one of my friends has one that he SBRd and has a stock on it

funniest looking thing

[frank sphinx]

P90 looks better

[grizzled hill]

I want a type 100 style p90

Mag on the side as a grip

[frank sphinx]

Oh god

[hexed fern]

honestly given a choice between a P50 and a P90 I'd take the P50

[frank sphinx]

Really?

I guess I’m slightly biased

[grizzled hill]

Ok I’d take the p50 just so I could toss it off a cliff

But if we want to use them I’m going p90 100% if the time

But like in all seriousness the p50 is almost as big as the p90 and almost as heavy but it’s less accurate only semi auto and it doesn’t have comfortable grips to balance out the weight

No stock to use as a base

It’s just not good

Fun probably

Good no

[hexed fern]

accuracy is... actually gonna be pretty damn close to the same as a SBR'd P90

probably better really, the P90's barrel just kinda sits there retained by a pin that stops it from being yote out the front of the gun

[grizzled hill]

Well not if you got that extended barrel

True chads run the extended barrel

I want a extension for my airsoft p90 but I also don’t feel like tearing it apart to replace it

[hexed fern]

the extension actually makes it even worse

it's a bullet hose, its practical accuracy is "about one torso at 100 yards" and that's good enough

[grizzled hill]

It’s still more accurate with a longer barrel if you are semi autoing it

At least in theory

[hexed fern]

the thing is for practical accuracy it doesn't matter
mechanical accuracy is meh

you get a bit less with the longer barrel in terms of group size because it shifts more

[grizzled hill]

Fair enough

[hexed fern]

obviously pretty much anything that holds the barrel where it belongs more firmly eliminates that but factory they don't care

[grizzled hill]

Still more controllable than a full auto pistol that weighs 7 pounds

[hexed fern]

the P50 isn't full auto

[severe karma]

ghetto airsoft setup

kill me please

[grizzled hill]

I know but you compared p90 accuracy in full auto so I’m holding to that standard

[hexed fern]

no, I'm not saying full auto

I'm saying that semi-to-semi, P50 is better

[grizzled hill]

Maybe so but the p90 is way more user friendly

[hexed fern]

and as an auto the P50 probably has slightly smaller grouping too, but there's maybe one of those and it got beat to shit in testing like that PMR30 did

[grizzled hill]

Plus I’m biased

P90 has more drip

[hexed fern]

absolutely

[grizzled hill]

Plus I prefer smg more than a pistol

Firm stocks make all the difference for me

A good stock makes me fall in love

P50 don’t have that

[hexed fern]

there's a few designs out there

[grizzled hill]

My requirements for guns is a good stock and a unique good look

I’m all about the look over efficiency

[hexed fern]

wasn't the biggest fan of the P90's stock mostly because I don't run around at the range in armor and I'm not tiny

so it's way too short

[grizzled hill]

You can extend it for like $20

[hexed fern]

yeah but it looks fuckin' stupid with like four inches of extension on it XD

[grizzled hill]

Not in my opinion

To each their own

[hexed fern]

airsoft I'll happily run a P90 and foam plates, real steel it's just annoying

want a MP7 more though, P90 mags being a nightmare to actually store

[grizzled hill]

Yeah

I have both

Mp7 mags are hella expensive e

While p90 mags require massive tac rigs

[hexed fern]

massive tac rigs and hoping you got lucky and got pouches that actually fit 'em

[grizzled hill]

Exactly

I can’t run my p90 till I find a proper sized pouch

[hexed fern]

I'd just run my D3CRM w/ the SMG insert, P90 mags ain't more chonk than UMP mags

[grizzled hill]

And I can’t run my mp7 till I have more money

So I use my SR47 which I do love

If I was in an actual combat situation I’d I was indoor I would want the mp7 and if I was outdoors I’d go for my SR

[hexed fern]

and it's not like airsoft P90 mags have the problem real ones do with the end being exposed

[grizzled hill]

True

[severe karma]

try the bag chest rig works great

:trollface:

[grizzled hill]

I might tbh

[hexed fern]

put 'em in an open rig once and left a breadcrumb trail of ammo for half a block

[severe karma]

its light as fuck

and very comfy

[grizzled hill]

And drippy

[severe karma]

:troll:

[grizzled hill]

Fanny pack rig

[hexed fern]

"drippy" is a good way to describe P90 mags stored with the feeding end up

[grizzled hill]

How are you even supposed to put ‘em in I’ve never toyed with it

I collect guns more than I use them

[hexed fern]

shove the non-feed end in, push down on the feed end, good to go

[severe karma]

if you adjust it enough its pretty solid, and it does fit an armor plate somehow

[hexed fern]

it's a pretty fast change with about five minutes of practice

[grizzled hill]

I know a lot about painful reloads since I used to main a revolver as my secondary

[hexed fern]

still prefer the MP7's reload though

[grizzled hill]

It broke in a plane so no more revolver

Still mad about that

[severe karma]

g36 :troll:

[hexed fern]

don't have one and haven't had a real one but it's just normal-ass pistol reload

[grizzled hill]

Yeah

It’s too normal

Prefer p90

[hexed fern]

practically speaking I'll take twice as many mags over neatness

[grizzled hill]

Being unique is my only personality trait

[severe karma]

opinion on osprey MK4 body armor?

[hexed fern]

also I'll take a normal-ass grip over that idiocy any day

[grizzled hill]

I love the p90 grip it’s very comfy for someone my size

Although my SR is still my favorite gun

The style of a SR25 with the Ak mags is just hot

[hexed fern]

if someone made a COP I'd primary it for memes

[grizzled hill]

I’d main any stupid gun if someone else is paying

[hexed fern]

...what the fuck marushin

they have a long-barrel GBB COP

[grizzled hill]

Someone made a vector with a 5 ft barrel

$5000

[hexed fern]

that sounds beautiful

[grizzled hill]

I want it so bad

[hexed fern]

the long-barrel COP that is

[grizzled hill]

It looks fat

Fat gun

I want a long barrel TT with a 50rd stick mag

[hexed fern]

loved having a real one other than only being able to shoot it a dozen times in a row before my hand died

[grizzled hill]

What caliber again?

[hexed fern]

357 magnum

[grizzled hill]

Ah

Try a 12 gauge pistol

[hexed fern]

I have a .410

[grizzled hill]

Too small

[hexed fern]

the COP is worse

[grizzled hill]

12 gauge pistols are as chad as it is

Wrist breaker 3000

Wish they were not illegal

[hexed fern]

oh lol marushin makes a FDE COP

and a gold one

this is beautiful

[grizzled hill]

I just want a tt from Afghanistan (they make full auto TTs down there)

Good fun

[hexed fern]

that sounds awful

[grizzled hill]

It’s amazing

[hexed fern]

have you shot a TT

[grizzled hill]

They also use 50rd extended stick mags

[hexed fern]

it's awful

[grizzled hill]

Soon

[hexed fern]

an auto TT is the worst idea

[grizzled hill]

I’ve seen it

He didn’t look to upset he was having a hell of a time with that 50rd full auto TT

[hexed fern]

I've used slightly sketchy ammo in mine and nearly broke my wrist

and mine's not even auto

[grizzled hill]

Russia moment

Their guns can be a bit sus

[hexed fern]

nah, it was S&B and a romy tok

[grizzled hill]

Oh

TT better

[hexed fern]

that also started a brush fire

[grizzled hill]

TT is the best knockoff 1911

[hexed fern]

it's not even a 1911 knockoff though? more of a 1903

actually pretty much a 1903 with a 1911's tilt action

[frank sphinx]

Are there even any good modern Russian pistols?

“Modern”

[junior sedge]

Mp443 ig

[frank sphinx]

Do they make an airsoft model for that?

[junior sedge]

Raptor do yeah

Really nice too imo

[grizzled hill]

ooh

a grach for airsoft

[junior sedge]

Ye

Expensive tho

[grizzled hill]

how expensive?

[junior sedge]

Nearly 200 bucks

[grizzled hill]

oh thats not horrible my revolver was about that much

[junior sedge]

For me that's pretty pricy for a pistol tbh

[grizzled hill]

yeah but im a gun collector

im willing to spend on guns

not as much on my gear

[junior sedge]

Fair enough

Can't wait for tomorrow 🙏

[limber flame]

Pakistan*

[grizzled hill]

both really

[limber flame]

from Pakistan into afghan

the middle east is weird and wacky

but cool

[grizzled hill]

from terrorism to crazy ass weapons they really do have it all

[limber flame]

fucking abu hajar whips out a mint condition stg44

[grizzled hill]

those are hard to come buy

knowing that area they probably built it

[limber flame]

the amount of "rare" guns that got found in iraq and afghan is wild

[grizzled hill]

they like their guns thats for sure

[limber flame]

cant blame em

[grizzled hill]

yeah i do also love guns

[opaque iris]

doesn't that one have a weird ass plate size and form

[severe karma]

yes

its weird

[frank sphinx]

The “new” FN five seven can only hold 17bbs

Why

How can the original hold 20 but the replica can’t

Scammed

[deep oxide]

Mis bonitas (My beauties)

[junior sedge]

El pistola

[frank sphinx]

mmm pistols

[deep oxide]

Damn 😳

[slate leaf]

Cuanto te han costado

[rocky crypt]

5000 pesos por el del medio 3005 por los otros dos

[slate leaf]

Peso mexicano?

[grizzled hill]

I don’t speak polish

[junior sedge]

Poland :((

Reminded me it's a real place

[hexed fern]

is it really though? I thought it was like Bielefeld

[junior sedge]

😭

I hope not

[opaque iris]

Gen 1 digital Nods ahahaha

Just get a PVS 14 lmao

[grizzled hill]

Sometimes people don’t like spending money

[opaque iris]

then fuck you

enjoy being a fucking beacon

[grizzled hill]

Probably replica

That’s my plan

I’d like real ones but replicas will have to do

[opaque iris]

even more cringe

if you don't have nods then don't pretend you do

[grizzled hill]

Not pretending

Just have it for the looks

Openly fake

[rocky crypt]

Its the COD collectors nods

[rocky crypt]

U forget ur in the airsoft channel?

I wanted to replicate Cpt prices helmet from MW, so wouldnt it feel right to actually USE something cod released?

Prime example of a discord Money manager telling everyone what to get and spend w their time and money

Useless.

[grizzled hill]

Yeah he tells people to only buy real armor too

Not replicas

[rocky crypt]

Guys not cool enough to hang out in the Irl gear section so comes down here once in a while to boost his ego

Just to go back up to that chat and tell them what new imaginary gear he got

[grizzled hill]

He says it’s “because he’s a reenacter”

Doesn’t excuse telling other to waste money

Hobbies are cool

Don’t force it on others

I like Him he’s just a bit

Excessive

[rocky crypt]

Oh so hes a real casual up in here

lol i see

[opaque iris]

No? but ever heard of fucking MilSim?

MSW is a blessing tbh

[hexed fern]

milsim doesn't justify telling someone to dump a new car on nods

real quads are in the five figure range and for looks you can do a lot worse than the COD fake quads

function too

[grizzled hill]

$30k for gpnvgs

In tarkov they are only 1.2k I wish that translates into irl

[hexed fern]

you wanna level things for people who want to spend a sane amount on gear and still play like it's milsim, turn off everyone's torches and set up some damn static illuminators to pretend they're the real deal

it is
in fact
considerably cheaper to build enough IR floods for a field than it is to buy anything remotely modern

or just buy 'em! they make the damned things for security cameras!

you're only a beacon if the field isn't set up for you and you're the only one without the ridiculous budget needed for "real" nods

[opaque iris]

5? what, I can get PNV 10Ts for 700 bucks lmao

and a PVS 14 depending on tubes is like 2-5k at least here in europe

American prices on Nods are godly

[opaque iris]

they are

in the US

at least PVS 14s

and if you get some PVS 14 tubes in the right chassis you can get GPNVG like nods for like maybe 10-15 k

and there are already better alternatives with 120° fov

as the GPNVG only has 97°

[hazy talon]

Has anyone tried the 416 specna arms rev 2.0? How is it? Im considering buying it

[rocky crypt]

U sped, how many times do i have to tell you

Im trying to recreate this helmet

not make a fucking functional one for myself

the ones i need are L3harris GPNVG

im not settling for no PVS

[opaque iris]

then Spend 36k

[rocky crypt]

then stfu

[opaque iris]

lmao

[oak bane]

mfs be like "wow I love nvgs" bro just use a flashlight 💀💀

[rocky crypt]

^

[opaque iris]

Nah I don't want to spot my whole location to the enemy team

[rocky crypt]

With your loud obnoxious ass, im sure theyll hear you before they see you

[opaque iris]

I'm just shitting on airshitters, I don't have anything else to do lmao

[frank sphinx]

[sonic narwhal]

speedsoft gang

[untold plume]

Guns are bad and cause problems

[valid aurora]

say this in #irl-weapons pls

more relevant

[lyric shuttle]

[junior sedge]

no

[hybrid vapor]

any recommendation for plate vest? The one I have is completely trashed and it was pretty cheap stuff lol

It would be fine if it is around 80 - 100 eur

[grizzled hill]

Use a backpack as a rig

That’s what a chad would do

[junior sedge]

Fr

[opaque iris]

double up and you could get a Crye JPC